1 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:06,760 Speaker 1: Hi, this is Kylee Wber and welcome to the Philly Show. 2 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:12,639 Speaker 2: Hi, everybody, Ruben Tomorrow, Junior, Jim Salisbury, Todd Zilucky. 3 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:13,640 Speaker 1: It's the Philly Show. 4 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 2: It's the day after Opening Day, Friday, March twenty eighth, 5 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:19,080 Speaker 2: twenty twenty five. 6 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:23,279 Speaker 1: Phillies win season opener seven to three in ten innings. 7 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:23,800 Speaker 1: How are we doing? 8 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 3: Guys? 9 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 4: Doing great? 10 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 3: Pooh? 11 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 5: I see this is one hundred and sixty two. And oh, 12 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 5: you know we all know that opening day they're. 13 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 4: Going all the way. 14 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 2: Yes we do, Yes we do. Big big home run 15 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 2: numbers from Bryce Harper and College Swarber. You know everything. 16 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 2: Alec Bohm's going to make the All Star team again, right, 17 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:45,880 Speaker 2: Zach Wheeler looked great, Ruben. 18 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 1: What'd you think of opening day? 19 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:47,279 Speaker 4: Jen? 20 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 1: If you had to. 21 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 2: Sum it up for us in your mind? In your mind, 22 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 2: what do you think of the season opener yesterday? 23 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 6: Well, the difficulty of it was that it was a 24 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 6: sunny day at four o'clock. When you start games like 25 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 6: that during this period of time and during the course of. 26 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:06,400 Speaker 4: The I guess once you get later into the season 27 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 4: as well. 28 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 6: The sun creates a factor that makes it virtually impossible 29 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 6: to see baseball. And you know, people who watch this 30 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 6: game are sitting there watching the sky. Mackenzie Gore go 31 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 6: through the you know, the phillies lineup like hot butter, 32 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:27,399 Speaker 6: the hot knife through butter. And I'm sure there was 33 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 6: some consternation. 34 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 4: I go, oh my god, I can't believe they said 35 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 4: they worked on you know, you know, not striking out 36 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 4: and making contact. And I can't believe what's going on here. Well, 37 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 4: guess what, folks, When. 38 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:39,040 Speaker 6: You can't see a baseball and the guy's throwing like 39 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 6: ninety four to ninety seven with nasty stuff, and you 40 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 6: have no idea where the spin is going, it's virtually 41 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 6: impossible to hit the baseball unless the guy hits your bat. 42 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 6: I mean, that's what it's basically down to. I've lived it, 43 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 6: and I've I've played it. I played one game at 44 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 6: the VET one time against Pedro Martinez right around that 45 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 6: same time, and I was basically crapping my pants because 46 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 6: I had no chance. I mean, Pedro Martinez has the 47 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:10,639 Speaker 6: filthiest change up. You can't distinguish speed, you can't distinct 48 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:11,360 Speaker 6: All you see. 49 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 4: Is a black sphere. And I talked about a little 50 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:16,920 Speaker 4: bit on the post game, but and it's not an excuse. 51 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 4: I mean there's strikes. There are tons of strikeouts. Even 52 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 4: Wheeler had. 53 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 6: A ton of strikeouts, and he didn't he didn't have 54 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 6: his pinpoint command, but he had good stuff. And you know, 55 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 6: the Washington Nationals are not a great offensive team. So listen, 56 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:32,080 Speaker 6: Once the game got into the shadows, like the whole 57 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:34,920 Speaker 6: you know, the sun got into the shadows and they 58 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 6: started seeing the baseball a little bit. 59 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 4: I mean that was sort of a godsend for the Phillies, 60 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:43,800 Speaker 4: and the big boys came through. You had the Showman 61 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 4: come through with a home run to tie it. You 62 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:48,799 Speaker 4: had Shorter you know, then follow it with a home run. 63 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:50,639 Speaker 4: I mean, great stuff. 64 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 6: I got to give some a shout out to Wheeler 65 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:54,399 Speaker 6: obviously pitch. 66 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 4: Great because he's the best pitcher on the planet. And 67 00:02:57,200 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 4: I got to give a shout. 68 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 6: Out to the one at bat that kyber resad against him. 69 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 6: It was one of the best at bats you may 70 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 6: see this entire season. And it happened in the very first, 71 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 6: you know game, first game of the season. He fouled 72 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 6: off i don't know, like seven straight pitches or something, 73 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 6: and then he hit a nasty pitch like up and 74 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 6: in that most left hand the left handers can't get to. 75 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 3: And what pulled his hands out. 76 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:24,639 Speaker 4: And he pulled his hands in so nicely. The dude 77 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:26,360 Speaker 4: he gives, he gets some love for that. 78 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, most guys hooked that ball. 79 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 5: Hooked that ball way up into the third level way fall. 80 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, really impressive. But you know, there's some other things 81 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 4: to unpack. 82 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 6: I don't know how long you want me to talk here, 83 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 6: but we want to talk the whole, the whole, Rubin. 84 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 2: I just wanted to add add to that, you know, 85 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 2: talking to Zach Wheeler after the game yesterday, somebody asked 86 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 2: him about the shadows and he said, honestly, it's great 87 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 2: for me. 88 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 1: I'm trying to get through the inning as quickly as. 89 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 2: Possible so I can get back out there as quickly 90 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 2: as possible, so I can stay in the shadows as 91 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 2: long as possible, because he knows the Nationals have no 92 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 2: sense hitting because and you're right, I think sometimes in 93 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 2: these games you hear the players talk about shadows when 94 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 2: they're struggling at the plate and they go come on 95 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 2: shadows like really, like, you know, is it really that 96 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:18,039 Speaker 2: much of a difference, But you know, it is that 97 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 2: much of a difference. Like I said, Zach, Zach Wheeler 98 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 2: was like, I wanted to get a pitch as fast 99 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:26,360 Speaker 2: as possible so I could extend my outing as much 100 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 2: as because I knew that the Nationals almost had no chance, 101 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 2: and real quick that I got this static that this 102 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 2: did not make it in my story yesterday. But this 103 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 2: is kind of a did you know the Kybert Ruiz 104 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:39,599 Speaker 2: twelve pitch at bat against Zach Wheeler. It was the 105 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 2: longest at bat that Zach Wheeler ever had that ended 106 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 2: in a home run. The previous high was an eleven 107 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 2: pitch at bat versus Jason Hayward April ninth, twenty fourteen. 108 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 2: So that was a heck of a battle between Believe 109 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 2: wheel Yeah, Wheeler, I mean know you know, you know 110 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 2: Wheeler being Wheeler competitor. I asked him about that pitch. 111 00:04:57,440 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 2: I said, it looked like it wasn't a bad pitch. 112 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:01,040 Speaker 4: He's like, great pitch. 113 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 1: He's like, it wasn't my best fastball, though he was. 114 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:07,480 Speaker 1: He didn't think it was, you know, like Wheelers like 115 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 1: it could have been better. 116 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, which is why he's great, right, because he did 117 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 2: throw a good pitch. 118 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:13,719 Speaker 1: I thought it was a good pitch. You thought it 119 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 1: was a good pitch, but he's. 120 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 4: Like off the plate, up and end. 121 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, it could have been a little better. 122 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:21,279 Speaker 4: I mean it could have been better for when it 123 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 4: had been hit out of the ballpark. I mean, he 124 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 4: doesn't want to give the other guy credit, right. 125 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 3: Kybert Ruiz. Was he in the trade Turner trade? 126 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 4: He sure? No, he was in the h He came 127 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 4: over in the I think the Schuser trade. 128 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:38,279 Speaker 3: Wasn't that the same trade? No, I don't know Dodgers 129 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 3: he was originally a Dodger. It was Dodgers. 130 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 4: I think it was Sureser. 131 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, he's a good looking plier and. 132 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:45,279 Speaker 4: They signed him to a multi year deal, like the 133 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:48,040 Speaker 4: seven year deal. I was a little astonished by that. 134 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:51,479 Speaker 6: But he put himself in pretty good shape. He got 135 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:56,040 Speaker 6: heavy last year and got a little lazy, it seemed like, 136 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:58,479 Speaker 6: but it looks like. I mean, he caught a good game. 137 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:02,480 Speaker 6: I was watching him pretty int as he's handling the 138 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 6: pitcher Gore. 139 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 4: He did a nice job with him. 140 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 6: And put together, you know, in decent bat and he 141 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:10,280 Speaker 6: had two hits. He's the only guy that two hits 142 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 6: against Wheeler as well. 143 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 2: So sure are and Trader sures Are and Turner in 144 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:16,720 Speaker 2: that trade July thirty, oh, both of them. 145 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 5: You know, in another gener twenty years ago, Mackenzie Gore 146 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 5: probably gives you another inning because guys used to come 147 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 5: out of spring training getting to one hundred pitchers. 148 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:29,119 Speaker 3: That was always like the benchmark by the end of camp. 149 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:30,919 Speaker 5: And now they're just shy of that, and they're getting 150 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:34,040 Speaker 5: to a round one hundred in their first regular season start. 151 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 5: They might have been able to squeeze another one out 152 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 5: of him, and that could have been different. But I mean, 153 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 5: to me, the the turning point in the game was 154 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:46,279 Speaker 5: goodbye Mackenzie Gore and and goodbye shadows. And how much 155 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 5: of a factor is that the batter's eye is on 156 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 5: fire as well? You know, you might have the shadows 157 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:57,799 Speaker 5: might be gone, they might be out into shallow center field, 158 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 5: but that batter's eye still is on fire. 159 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 3: It's a very prominent batters eye. 160 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:04,159 Speaker 6: In Washington, I will say this, we talked about the 161 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 6: batter's eye and we were watching part of during the game. 162 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 4: We were watching part of the New York Yankees game. 163 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 6: I believe it was in It was at Yankee Stadium, 164 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 6: and we were looking at the batting batter's eye Ben 165 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 6: Davis and I were commenting about how certain batters eyes 166 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 6: you love when as a hitter, and a lot of 167 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 6: it depends on your height, like I was a shorter 168 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 6: stature guy. 169 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 4: Ben much taller, and. 170 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 6: Different guys like different batting batter's eyes and batter's boxes. 171 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 4: It's it's a real thing. 172 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 6: You feel a lot more comfortable, Like I felt really 173 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 6: comfortable in Chase Stadium for some reason, and I had 174 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 6: pretty good at bats. I loved the batter's eye at 175 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 6: Chase Stadium. I love hitting there. I saw the ball well, 176 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 6: and you know, I hit pretty well against guys like 177 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 6: I don't know, Sid Fernandez and Doc Gooden. I don't 178 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 6: know why because I stunk, But for those against those guys, 179 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 6: I was actually pretty good because of the batter's eye 180 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 6: and of course with a comfort that I felt there. 181 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 1: It's funny you mentioned that bat I remember we a 182 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago. 183 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 2: I wrote that story talking about the wind effect at 184 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 2: Citizens Bank Park and talking to the Phillies, and they 185 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 2: talked about in terms of park factors, one of the 186 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 2: things that people don't talk about is the batter's eye 187 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 2: from park to park and how that makes a huge 188 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 2: difference in how many home runs are and how much 189 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 2: offenses is generated it from from park to park. 190 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 1: Good batter's eyes. 191 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 5: Because that batter's I in Washington. It looks like it's 192 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 5: got a little sheen to it. 193 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 6: It does, and it looks like it set back. 194 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 3: A little bit. 195 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 5: It's like it's like painted in semi gloss, where I 196 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 5: think you need more of a satin finish, where the 197 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 5: one in Citizens Bank Park is covered with foliage so 198 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 5: it doesn't like bounce. 199 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 6: Lot of you guys might know the story the citizens 200 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 6: Bank Park background originally the grout in it because it's 201 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:51,439 Speaker 6: it was red. 202 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 4: I was sent back just before we broke this season. 203 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 4: I remember that was the grout was white and the dark. 204 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 6: Watching BP they're taking VP there like with some minor 205 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:04,680 Speaker 6: leaguers or something, and I'm like, uh, guys, do you 206 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 6: know that the ball is white and with red stitches 207 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:12,080 Speaker 6: and we have a red and white background, Like we 208 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 6: need to paint that the grout somehow. And Mike de 209 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:19,200 Speaker 6: Musio got his group out there and they painted it 210 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 6: down and made it darker, because I mean, I was concerned, like, 211 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:24,559 Speaker 6: how are these guys going to see the baseball with 212 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:26,680 Speaker 6: there's white grouting in the back. 213 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 1: I remember. 214 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 5: I remember they stayed the whole they stained the whole 215 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:31,840 Speaker 5: brick wall there. 216 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:34,319 Speaker 1: That's correct, And am I crazy? 217 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 2: Wasn't there also a like stone display on the ground. Yes, 218 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 2: it was the white stone. It was a white peace 219 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 2: stone like in rocks, in the shape of the Phillies logo. 220 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 1: And it was and they darkened that too. 221 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 3: They changed that out and made. 222 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 1: It like they got as well. I remember that too, 223 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:55,960 Speaker 1: Like you know, we have like a bunch of white rocks. 224 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 5: Hey, you know, at least at least you didn't forget 225 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 5: the bullpens like the I did in San Francisco. 226 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 4: A good point. 227 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 3: It's still one of the most amazing stories. 228 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 6: Yeah they're talking about I know what I'm talking about stadiums. 229 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 6: But I will say when we went back and I 230 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 6: went back and sat at each that was one. 231 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 4: Of the things. My job was to sort of check 232 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 4: things out. 233 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 6: And what I wanted to do for me personally is 234 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 6: like move around the ballpark just to see different sight 235 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:23,319 Speaker 6: lines of the ballpark. Dude, I was so fascinated by 236 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 6: all of it. 237 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 4: Siss Bank Park. 238 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:28,680 Speaker 6: I mean it, it is low key one of the 239 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 6: best venues in baseball. 240 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 4: For a lot of reasons. 241 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 6: But one of them is not just you know, you 242 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 6: can promenade around, you know, the main concourse and watch 243 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 6: the game, but also like the angles that you see 244 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:45,560 Speaker 6: different spots. You can sit in left field, great seats, 245 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 6: in left field bleachers great seats, and right field bleachers, 246 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 6: great seats up top. 247 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:51,959 Speaker 4: Like I mean, you get views of the ballpark in. 248 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:54,839 Speaker 6: The city that are so spectacular. I mean, obviously you 249 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 6: seem much better from the press box area and from 250 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:01,559 Speaker 6: behind home plate, but my goodness, are there some great, 251 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 6: great spots in that ballpark. And it gives you if 252 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 6: I were a fan, I would go to a different 253 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:08,320 Speaker 6: spot every single time I went to the ballpark just 254 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 6: to get a different perspective, because it's pretty cool. 255 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 5: It's a gorgeous ballpark. It really is gorgeous. Twenty years Ashburnally. 256 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 5: There's such a feeling of community out there, people, you know, 257 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:23,560 Speaker 5: having a hot dog, having a having fun just Ashburnally 258 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:24,680 Speaker 5: is a great feature. 259 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 1: Having a manco and mancos there you go. 260 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 6: That's exactly Righto's Pizza. 261 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 2: Before we talk about I want to talk about Alec Bohm, 262 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 2: his big hit, and you know, we talked a little 263 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:37,200 Speaker 2: bit more about Harper and Schwarbro. 264 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:38,680 Speaker 1: I do want to mention this. We talked about this 265 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 1: in the last show. 266 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 2: Uh ed throw this on the screen here real quick 267 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 2: Manco Manco's giving away a gift card. We're going to 268 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 2: announce that winner next sometime next week. 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Uh, you know, he 292 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 2: talks about it in spring training and all this stuff, 293 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:58,679 Speaker 2: and then he comes out yesterday and just rips the 294 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:02,320 Speaker 2: first pitch fastball wall in left center field and and 295 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 2: he said, yeah, you know, I'm glad I'm still here, man, 296 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 2: I'm glad I'm still here where I'm comfortable. And Bryce 297 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:11,080 Speaker 2: Harper talked about him after the game, saying, we loved 298 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 2: the kid and we're so glad he's back. And Zach 299 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 2: Wheeler said the same thing. Hey, I've been in trade 300 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 2: rumors before too, and I know what it was like. 301 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 2: And god, we loved the guy and he's such a 302 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 2: big part of this team and and so it's kind 303 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:25,960 Speaker 2: of a cool moment for him post you know, in 304 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 2: the in the moment and then then post game, you know, 305 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 2: talking it was cool to how you know that he 306 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 2: talked about it and just the acknowledgment of the uncertainty 307 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:36,719 Speaker 2: and then how it's funny how baseball works. 308 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:41,080 Speaker 1: You know, ball found him. I guess, well, we moment 309 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:41,680 Speaker 1: I think. 310 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 5: We used this expression many times over the winter. And 311 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 5: it's a bit of a cliche, but sometimes the best 312 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:48,680 Speaker 5: trade so are the ones you don't make. And I 313 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:53,080 Speaker 5: don't think you can say that you know, after one game, 314 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 5: but I think that that will be proven true over 315 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:00,200 Speaker 5: the course of one hundred and sixty two games, because 316 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 5: I think he's going to have a really good season. 317 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 3: And I just loved the at bat. 318 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 5: I loved the approach, and his approach is always pretty consistent. 319 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 3: Put the ball in play us the middle of the field, 320 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 3: think line drive. 321 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 5: But I mean that was you know, all of the 322 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:14,559 Speaker 5: above middle of the field, you could almost see a 323 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 5: little top hand in there. The pitch was up a 324 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:18,200 Speaker 5: little bit, you could almost see a little top hand 325 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 5: come in. And he was focused short, short swing. He 326 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 5: was focused on line drive, put it in play, win 327 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 5: the ball game, or you know, knock in the go 328 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 5: ahead run. So a tremendous at bat, not trying to 329 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 5: hit a home run there, trying. 330 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 3: To just hit it where they ain't. 331 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 5: And it was a heck of an at bat and 332 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 5: a heck of a game for him. 333 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, he knew what he wanted. 334 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 2: He said he was looking outer half because I guess 335 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 2: the guy comes in and cuts in so he didn't 336 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 2: want to get jammed, and so he says, I was 337 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 2: looking out or half and sure enough he got a 338 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 2: fastball on the outer half of the plate and he 339 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 2: was ready for it and went at it, and he said, 340 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 2: I was just trying to touch it, just trying to 341 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 2: touch it. 342 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 1: It went off his bat at like one hundred and 343 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 1: seven point nine miles an hour, so he touched it. 344 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 1: He touched it pretty good. 345 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 6: A lot of things to unpack here, I mean, obviously, 346 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 6: the offseason was what it was. Came into camp really, 347 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 6: really with a great attitude. I talked to Rob Thompson 348 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 6: about it. Hey, he just came to play. And I 349 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 6: don't know what he did during the offseason. I think 350 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 6: he talks some people. I think he had, you know, 351 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 6: a little personal growth moments and came into camp great, 352 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 6: in great spirits, and you. 353 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 4: Know, he just he was sort of patented. 354 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 6: Alec Boum his first base hit, he threw his hands 355 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 6: inside the ball, flipped it out. 356 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 4: To right field. 357 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 6: It's hard enough to right field to get past the 358 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 6: second baseman for a knock. 359 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 4: And he is the best over the last couple of years. 360 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 4: There's not anybody better in my mind, and I don't think. 361 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 6: I think the numbers prove it out runners of scoring 362 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:55,359 Speaker 6: position two outs or two outs RBI's in general, he's ridiculous. 363 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 4: I mean, he'sh in like three thirty three. His numbers 364 00:15:57,760 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 4: are like insane. 365 00:15:58,720 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 3: And so. 366 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 6: Someone was asking, well, why don't they walk you know, 367 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 6: why don't they walk Harper in front of him? 368 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 4: I'm like, dude, do you walk Harper in front of 369 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 4: him on purpose and you're gonna get some damage from 370 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 4: the guy behind. That's why he's there. That's why he's 371 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 4: there because he provides protection. He may not have home 372 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 4: run protection, but he's got RBI protection. 373 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 6: And you see that by the way Topper aligns his 374 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 6: lineup and he believes in this guy. 375 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 4: I mean, he's one of the best other than Harper, 376 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 4: probably is the best pure hitter they have. It's as 377 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 4: simple as that. He's really good. 378 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 6: And I know he went through some struggles last year 379 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 6: for a variety of reasons, but hey, people grow, hopefully 380 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 6: he does too. He was an All Star. He was 381 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 6: dancing on one hundred RBIs for two straight years. 382 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 3: Well Double made. 383 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 6: A comment the other day, he said, when they said, 384 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 6: lock this guy up because there's not a better hitter 385 00:16:56,960 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 6: in their team other than Harper. 386 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 5: He's right, yeah, good Uh Gret gretit bat really good win. 387 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:11,160 Speaker 5: What was going on Todd with Jordan Romano. I'm sitting there, 388 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 5: I'm saying, does this guy ever throw a fastball? I mean, 389 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:17,359 Speaker 5: he looked he looked turkey jerky, He looked anxious. 390 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 3: At one point he put. 391 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:21,399 Speaker 5: His eyes up to the heavens and I thought he 392 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:23,479 Speaker 5: was trying to breathe through his eyelids. It was like 393 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 5: he was having trouble calming himself down. 394 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, his vila was way down. 395 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 2: And the first few fastballs he threw, they were like 396 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:32,439 Speaker 2: ninety two, ninety two to five or. 397 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 1: Something, going okay, this is is he like something going 398 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 1: on here? 399 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:35,719 Speaker 3: Uh? 400 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 2: Talked to him after the game. He said that he 401 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:41,679 Speaker 2: was his delivery was too quick. He was not in sync, 402 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 2: and he said that kind of affected his, uh, you know, 403 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 2: his ability to command the ball and really get at 404 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 2: anything on the ball. 405 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 1: And so, yeah, he started. He threw a lot of sliders. 406 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 2: You know, he usually throws more sliders than fastballs anyway, 407 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 2: but it's usually like fifty five percent, yeah. 408 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:00,200 Speaker 1: Almost fifty. 409 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:03,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe a tad over on the slider side, just slight, 410 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 2: but he I think he threw like two every three 411 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:07,880 Speaker 2: pitches were sliders. 412 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 1: So he said he was his mechanics are kind of 413 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:10,120 Speaker 1: out of whack. 414 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 2: He was too quick to the plate that the first 415 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 2: maybe half of that inning when he got himself in 416 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:18,400 Speaker 2: some trouble and then he kind of dialed it back 417 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 2: in at the end. 418 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 1: But I mean he allowed to runs. He said there 419 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:21,680 Speaker 1: was maybe a. 420 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 2: Little bit of nerves coming in for the first time 421 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 2: for the Phillies, so maybe that he'll. 422 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:29,719 Speaker 1: Kind of iron that out as we move forward. 423 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:33,160 Speaker 2: So, uh, you know, you could tell he was very 424 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 2: stand up, you know, talking about it postgame, but you 425 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 2: could also tell it was still bothering him how we 426 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 2: pitch and understandably, so. 427 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, he wasn't happy with how. 428 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 5: You can tell he's a stand up guy speaking to 429 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:48,680 Speaker 5: him here and there. As a lot of late game 430 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:50,679 Speaker 5: relievers are. They know they have to get out there 431 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 5: and wear it and they have that in their DNA, 432 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 5: and he certainly has that. So nowhere to go about 433 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:58,640 Speaker 5: up from there. But it's good he's got that first 434 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 5: one out. But he did appear like, you know, new 435 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 5: team anxiety, just a little nervous nerves maybe, so hopefully 436 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 5: he'll ron that out. 437 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 6: Hey, So a couple of things to unpack here. I'm 438 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:14,879 Speaker 6: gonna get get a little long winded, I think. So 439 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 6: I think about the closers and how they pitch and 440 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 6: why they why they're so effective. I think closers in 441 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 6: the ninth inning are guys that like they sort of 442 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 6: tap into the anxiety of the hitter. The pitchers in 443 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 6: the eighth inning have to really control their anxiety because 444 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 6: the game's not necessarily on the line. But the hitters 445 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 6: are more patient and they know the game's not over 446 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 6: if they make their out. So it's a different mindset. 447 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 6: So Mike Williams we got years ago. He was a 448 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:52,159 Speaker 6: great closer for Pittsburgh. Everybody's swinging to the slider in 449 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 6: the dirt. Well in the eighth inning, that slider in. 450 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:57,199 Speaker 4: The dirt, they spit on it and you have to 451 00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 4: throw it for a stripe more more consistently. 452 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 7: So it's a different role that he's gonna have to 453 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 7: adjust to. It was a tale of two different players 454 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 7: who got opportunities here in Philadelphia after being with their 455 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 7: teams in different spots. So you had Max Kepler, who 456 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:15,120 Speaker 7: was playing left field, who had a really good day. 457 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 7: I thought he translated the things that he was doing 458 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 7: in the spring with quality at bats, nice piece of 459 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 7: hitting with a double against the I think it was 460 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:27,919 Speaker 7: a lefty, had a couple of walks later on, really 461 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 7: good quality of bats, solid. 462 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 4: In the outfield, all those things, and I think he 463 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 4: felt more comfortable. There was no question in my mind. 464 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 3: And he may not. 465 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 6: He said he mentioned a little bit afterwards, but that 466 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:41,400 Speaker 6: that Jordan Maramano was nervous. 467 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 4: He was nervous. He was in a little bit different role. 468 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:44,200 Speaker 4: He's in the. 469 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 6: Eighth inning, He's not in a ninth inning. It's a 470 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 6: different sort of a role for him. And I think 471 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:51,720 Speaker 6: he's gonna have to manage through it. He's gonna have 472 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 6: to learn that. You know, he's not gonna be pitching 473 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 6: it a ninth all the time. Alvarado may be that guy, 474 00:20:56,680 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 6: or Strom or somebody else, or even Ryan Kirkering. 475 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:02,679 Speaker 4: So with the way that Rob Thompson manages this, so 476 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 4: it will be interesting to see how he adjusted this. 477 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 6: The other thing that that is of note is the 478 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 6: fact that he doesn't hold runners, and that is a concern. 479 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 6: They stole second and third on him. Basically walking and 480 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:18,119 Speaker 6: he doesn't hold runners all out. 481 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:20,159 Speaker 4: He's very long to the plate. Will he have to 482 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 4: adjust his you know, his delivery to the plate. Will 483 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 4: that have to change? 484 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:27,640 Speaker 6: I mean, there's a whole bunch of things to unpack here, 485 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:29,640 Speaker 6: and I'm interested to see how. 486 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 4: That works out. Now. 487 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 6: A lot of guys can't do that late in their careers, 488 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 6: and most closers don't change because they don't want to 489 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 6: change their ability to execute pitches. But a guy like 490 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 6: Aaron Nola had to figure out how to speed things up, 491 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:46,680 Speaker 6: slide step, quick step, whatever the case may be. Can 492 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 6: Jordan Romano do that? I'm not sure. I love this 493 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 6: guy because I love this demeanor. 494 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 4: I love you know, but. 495 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:53,639 Speaker 3: He was nervous. 496 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:54,919 Speaker 4: This is a guy who was nervous. 497 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:59,399 Speaker 6: He was in a new team, new role, high expectations, and. 498 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 4: He struggle a little bit. But I did. 499 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 6: What I did like about it is to me it 500 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:06,119 Speaker 6: was not how he started as how he finished. So 501 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 6: he got knocked around a little bit early and gave 502 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:10,439 Speaker 6: up the couple of rubs. But after that, I think 503 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 6: he sort of settled in and all of a sudden, 504 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:15,880 Speaker 6: all of a sudden, the veilo was there. The conviction 505 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 6: with his pitches was there for like three or four pitches, 506 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 6: so he sort of reverted back to himself. And I 507 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 6: think that's your As he pitches more and more, I 508 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 6: think I'll start feeling more and more comfortable. 509 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 4: That's that's my view of where he is. 510 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. 511 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 2: I think his first fastball is like ninety two six, 512 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 2: and then at one point he hit ninety six eight, 513 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 2: so he added at some point he added about four 514 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 2: miles of below. 515 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's get good to get that one out of 516 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 3: his system. 517 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 4: Ye, right, And it's good. 518 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 6: And it's good to even give up the game because 519 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 6: that would have been a real crushing for him, and 520 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 6: the team came back and did what they did in 521 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 6: the tenth to crush the game. But but it's good 522 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:56,160 Speaker 6: for his demeanor and it's good for his psyche. 523 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:58,160 Speaker 4: Hey man, they're all human beings. 524 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 6: I don't care whether you're thirty or your forty. It 525 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 6: there's effect on you mentally and emotionally and uh, and 526 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:08,639 Speaker 6: it's a good thing that they ended up pulling out 527 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:09,200 Speaker 6: the game. 528 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 3: No question. 529 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:14,919 Speaker 5: Confidence is huge in every sport. Yeah, and especially when 530 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 5: you have an off day the next day, if you 531 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:18,359 Speaker 5: come if you have a difficult performance. 532 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:20,639 Speaker 3: Now you've got to live with that for twenty four hours. 533 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:23,199 Speaker 5: It's so much better when you, like you said, he 534 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:26,440 Speaker 5: walked off the mound. You know, he got it together 535 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 5: a little bit and they won the game. So that's, uh, 536 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 5: that's a good way to go into an off day. 537 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 1: Alvarado, Yeah, he kind of. I mean he looked like. 538 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 2: The Alvarado we saw a spring just firing one hundred 539 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:39,120 Speaker 2: and the nasty, unhittable Kirkering I thought, pitched pretty well. 540 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 2: And Matt's Matt Strom and the tenth inning if the 541 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:45,120 Speaker 2: guy hasn't had not pitched. 542 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 1: In almost a month in a game. 543 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 2: March fifth was the last time he pitched in a 544 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 2: Graper League game, and he kind of closed the door there. 545 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,159 Speaker 2: So I think that that was encouraging anyway, just to 546 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 2: see Strom out there healthy, I guess, and getting out 547 00:23:58,480 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 2: of that, getting out. 548 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:03,200 Speaker 6: Of positive from the bullpen, lots of positive from the bullpen. 549 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 4: Strom He's got balls, sorry, guys, he's. 550 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 6: Got them, h O'Ryan Kirkering threw really really well and 551 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 6: uh and and it was unfortunately a couple of dink hits, 552 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:17,399 Speaker 6: ridiculous pop ups that they didn't have to put and 553 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 6: then he got out of the inning. 554 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 4: Nice job by him. 555 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:24,440 Speaker 6: Strong was excellent and Alvarado was outstanding. So a lot 556 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:26,639 Speaker 6: of positives out of that out of that bullpen. 557 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 4: I know Romano did not throw. 558 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 6: Well, Uh, but I think he'll bounce back. And uh 559 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 6: that's some positives there as well. 560 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:33,400 Speaker 3: Yeah. 561 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:36,640 Speaker 1: So so yesterday we had Harper, Homer's out. 562 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:40,200 Speaker 2: Of the two hole boom with the game winning double, 563 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:42,200 Speaker 2: out of the three hole, Schwerber with a home run 564 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 2: out of the cleanup spot. So fans are gonna be 565 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 2: pumped on Saturday when they're they're all in different spots 566 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:50,880 Speaker 2: in the lineup, right. 567 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:52,920 Speaker 1: I mean, that's kind of what it seems to be. 568 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 2: Uh, you know, Rob indicated again he's gonna adjust the 569 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 2: lineup maybe lefty right and kind of continue to fiddle 570 00:24:58,480 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 2: with it. 571 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 3: How about the how about this is what it is? 572 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 3: How about this? See the ball, hit the ball, boom, And. 573 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:07,640 Speaker 4: It doesn't matter where you are as long as those 574 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 4: first four guys. What I means, first four guys just whack. 575 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:12,560 Speaker 5: See the ball, hit the ball, if it's out of 576 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 5: the box, don't swing at it. 577 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 3: What it's funny. 578 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 2: I just see if I can find this quote I 579 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 2: asked Boom yesterday, because everybody's been asking Harper and Schwarber 580 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 2: and turn Or. We're like, you know, does it matter 581 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 2: where you hit? Does it matter where you hit? So 582 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 2: I said Boom, I said, you know you're hitting third today. 583 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 2: You might hit fourth on Saturday. I said, do you 584 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 2: care where you hit? He says, I don't care. And 585 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 2: he said, I've hit one through nine in my career. 586 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 2: I think he goes then he's pause for saying, well, 587 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:40,359 Speaker 2: maybe not ninth, but basically everywhere in the lineup, wherever 588 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:42,639 Speaker 2: you put me, I'll try to fit in. My approach 589 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 2: isn't necessarily based upon where I hit it. It's a 590 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 2: simple kind of approach. Runners on, runners, not on. Nothing 591 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 2: really changes for me. If it's something over the plate, 592 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 2: if it's a strike, if it's a good pitch to hit, 593 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 2: I'm going to try to swing at it. If it's not, 594 00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 2: I'm going to try to do my best not to 595 00:25:58,280 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 2: swing at it. And that sounds like a guy that. 596 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:00,720 Speaker 3: Who was that? 597 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,400 Speaker 2: That's that's Boom. That was Bom saying. 598 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's always had that approach. 599 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 1: And then you know, Turner. 600 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 3: Actually saw some pitches. 601 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:12,440 Speaker 5: I thought yesterday he saw a good amount of pitches. 602 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 1: The first two at bats for sure. I think he 603 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 1: saw a lot of at bats man. 604 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 4: He'll be fine. 605 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 6: He's one of the most the most one of the 606 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:21,160 Speaker 6: best hitters in baseball. 607 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 4: He's a top fifteen player for me. 608 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 6: And don't worry, he'll be scoring runs, in stealing bases 609 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 6: and driving. 610 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,680 Speaker 4: Ball out of the ballpark because he's got too much ability. 611 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a confidence momentum guy too. 612 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:36,399 Speaker 5: He I don't think he shows it that much because 613 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 5: he's kind of emotion less, doesn't show a ton of 614 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 5: emotion on the field. 615 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 3: He's kind of. 616 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 5: Like if he was a stream or a river, he'd 617 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 5: be very calm, there would be no like ripples in it. 618 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:53,439 Speaker 5: But he definitely, deep down inside is a momentum feel 619 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 5: confidence guy. So good to see him see some pitches early. 620 00:26:58,720 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was good. 621 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:04,399 Speaker 2: Well, guys that we will be back on Monday, maybe 622 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:06,920 Speaker 2: before the home opener, hopefully before the home opener on Monday. 623 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:08,440 Speaker 1: Will we'll wrap up the weekend. 624 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 2: It's Hayes Us Lizardo on Saturday, right against Jake Irvin 625 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:19,960 Speaker 2: on Saturday, and then and I know Nola is pitching 626 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:21,119 Speaker 2: a series finale. 627 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 1: I can't remember who's pitching for the Nationals on Sunday. 628 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:26,120 Speaker 1: I mean, Noah's pitching the series finale on Sunday. 629 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:28,200 Speaker 3: So Nola pitches on Sunday. 630 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 5: Good time to queue up that interview Todd that you 631 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:35,200 Speaker 5: did with Aaron Nola. Learn a little bit about the 632 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 5: how he throws that curveball, which everybody calls a knuckle curve, 633 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:40,920 Speaker 5: but it's actually a spike a curve. 634 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 1: It's a spiker. 635 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 3: You're right, ye, right, Well, I see it. You know 636 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:47,440 Speaker 3: it's been you know it's there's a slight difference. 637 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:48,360 Speaker 1: There is. 638 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 4: Great interesting just as long as it moves the way 639 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 4: it moves. 640 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:54,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, great fun interview. 641 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, how he's basically in a lot of ways throws 642 00:27:58,040 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 5: the same curveball as his father told him. 643 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:01,400 Speaker 3: You know what the risk to action way back when 644 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:02,160 Speaker 3: I was a little kid. 645 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:03,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's cool. 646 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 3: That's a good one to Uh. 647 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 6: It also takes a ton off of your elbow the 648 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 6: way if you throw it properly, you're better off throwing 649 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 6: a curveball and a slider on your elbow because of 650 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 6: the position of your hand. 651 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 2: I just think it's so cool with Nola, where like 652 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 2: all Spring he talks about, you know, trying to find 653 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:23,679 Speaker 2: my fastball command, and man, I'm trying to work on 654 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 2: my change up and basically he can roll out of 655 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 2: bed in the you know, in spring training day one 656 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 2: and just fire off some nasty curveballs. 657 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:33,159 Speaker 1: It just kind of doesn't make sense to me. 658 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:35,639 Speaker 2: I don't understand that part of it, where you know, 659 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 2: he's like trying to throw a four steamer and command 660 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 2: it where he wants to put it. 661 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 1: But like curveliking is a throw it in there and 662 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 1: it's unhittable. 663 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 2: So that's what makes him great, I guess, is that 664 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 2: that curveball is so great and he can throw it 665 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 2: at any point and feel confident in it. 666 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 3: So check out that interview. 667 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 4: You can also see when he's. 668 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 6: Got his right hand position, how he gets more of 669 00:28:56,560 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 6: a downward vertical movement than a horizontal movement when he's 670 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,239 Speaker 6: working on the side of it and he's that's when 671 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:06,000 Speaker 6: you see that he doesn't command his fastball as well. 672 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 6: He can't really throw his change up because he doesn't 673 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 6: get his hand position over the ball, and so you 674 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,480 Speaker 6: can see just by the angle of his breaking ball 675 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 6: whether or not you feel like I watch his first 676 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 6: few breaking balls of the game and I'm like oh oh, 677 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:23,360 Speaker 6: he's got his good stuff, or uh oh, he may 678 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 6: not have his good stuff because the breaking ball is 679 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 6: a little less as a little less depth when he 680 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 6: has this kind of rotation to the baseball. 681 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:32,600 Speaker 4: Forget about it. 682 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 1: Well, go so forget about it. 683 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:40,000 Speaker 2: Uh If you want to win a Manco Manco gift card, 684 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 2: subscribe to The Philly Show on the on our YouTube channel. 685 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 2: Drop in the comment section the name of your favorite 686 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 2: Phillies player. 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