WEBVTT - Second Date Update: To Cheat Or Not To Cheat

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<v Speaker 1>Second date of to day life has shown me that

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<v Speaker 1>people can change a lot in a short period of time. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I remember back when I first started working here.

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<v Speaker 1>I used to be an upbeat, bubbly person with big

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<v Speaker 1>hopes and even bigger biceps. Yeah you got a point.

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<v Speaker 1>But fast forward to today, I'm a hollow shell of

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<v Speaker 1>a man with a damaged heart and arms the size

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<v Speaker 1>of raisinets. Why am I telling you all this because

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<v Speaker 1>a lot can happen in just five years. And one

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<v Speaker 1>of our listeners says he went on a date with

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<v Speaker 1>someone that long ago and is now finally reaching out

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<v Speaker 1>to us for help. Ye to get You know, Mike,

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<v Speaker 1>you could have contacted us earlier. Yeah, looking back on that,

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<v Speaker 1>I probably shouldn't, but I was a little tied up.

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<v Speaker 1>I see it says here in your email you currently

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<v Speaker 1>work in insurance, But back when you met this young lady,

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<v Speaker 1>you were a budding actor. Is that right? Yeah? I

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<v Speaker 1>was doing acting for a while, and then life happened

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<v Speaker 1>and I kind of had to get the nine to

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<v Speaker 1>five going down that road. But life, you mean, bills

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<v Speaker 1>happened and you actually have to pay them yet? Yeah, exactly,

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<v Speaker 1>exactly right? Who is this woman. Well, her name is

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<v Speaker 1>April and I haven't talked to her in five years. Wow. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>and how did you meet her? Well, so she wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>an actor as well, and we were in a shakespeareance

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<v Speaker 1>played together. Well that's that's romantic. Yeah. And it's either

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<v Speaker 1>like you made out on stage or you killed each

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<v Speaker 1>other on stage? Which one was it? Well, fortunately we

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<v Speaker 1>got to kiss a little bit, right, I didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>to kill it. Okay, This is like a I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>this is the tale as old as time with the

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<v Speaker 1>actors that work together on a movie or on a

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<v Speaker 1>play and before you know it, they're in love. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the on stream chemistry goes Yes, that's right. Is that

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<v Speaker 1>what happened? Um? Yeah, Well, you know, like there's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of romance going on in those plays, you get

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<v Speaker 1>really into it, but when you're acting in especially in

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<v Speaker 1>a experience play, and so like we just really connected,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought on stage, but then it based on cliche,

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<v Speaker 1>like I said, but it was off stage as well.

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<v Speaker 1>So did you guys actually go on a date or

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<v Speaker 1>was that your time with her was doing the play.

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<v Speaker 1>That was a time with her doing the play, and

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<v Speaker 1>I had things going on outside of the place. I

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<v Speaker 1>was pretty busy outside of that, but after the final show,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it just we're real excited and things like that,

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<v Speaker 1>and it turned into a long date that night. Oh okay,

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<v Speaker 1>cast party and a show. What do they call that

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<v Speaker 1>when you wrap up a production? I think it's called

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<v Speaker 1>a rap party? Rap party, that's it. Yep ye yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>those actors large vocabulary. All right, So what happened with

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<v Speaker 1>when you hung out with you said her name was April. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>what happened with you in April? That night? We walked

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<v Speaker 1>around the city a bit. We popped into a and

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<v Speaker 1>that starts to put love in the air a bit

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<v Speaker 1>more a very cultured of you. Yeah, Shakespearean artsy. He

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<v Speaker 1>listens to our show, So that's cool. How was the

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<v Speaker 1>Art Museum? It was great? You know, I like in

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<v Speaker 1>a location like that, you get a lot of time

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<v Speaker 1>to talk and chat. And we sneak around the corners

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<v Speaker 1>kits a little bit. You know, we were still in

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<v Speaker 1>the in the zone. So what happened after the museum

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<v Speaker 1>make out? Well, we both live in a place where

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<v Speaker 1>we have to take the subway, so we were gonna

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<v Speaker 1>hop on the subway and so we got down to

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<v Speaker 1>the platform and it came, we popped in and then

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<v Speaker 1>this is where it works tough. It's uh. I looked

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<v Speaker 1>at her and I just said, I'm really sorry, I

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<v Speaker 1>can't do this. What and I stepped out? You just

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<v Speaker 1>left her inside the subway car for yourself? Yeah, well

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<v Speaker 1>at night after date. I mean, I know the lighting

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<v Speaker 1>is terrible at those things, but she could were you

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<v Speaker 1>acting now? Like it's almost like a scene from a movie.

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<v Speaker 1>I get it. Like the last thing I saw was

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<v Speaker 1>her like going away on the training just looking a

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<v Speaker 1>bit shocked. Yeah, I would have been like, what just happened?

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<v Speaker 1>I will wait? Why? Well? And so here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I was engaged at the time, and she didn't realize

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<v Speaker 1>that she did know. No, just we got caught up

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<v Speaker 1>in the acting thing and I kind of felt myself

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<v Speaker 1>drawn to her, and so I didn't really you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't bringing everything up about yourself. Oh, let us

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<v Speaker 1>didn't work out with the fiance, shocking, Well, it did,

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<v Speaker 1>and then it didn't. So I end up getting married.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, we're married for four and a half years.

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<v Speaker 1>And so here's where we're at is I'm now divorced

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm hope being that maybe I can get in

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<v Speaker 1>touch or you can help me get in touch with

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<v Speaker 1>April again, because it's been killing me. Like I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna say it ended my marriage, but like I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna say it wasn't something that was on my mind

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<v Speaker 1>a lot. I mean, cheating on your fiance before you

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<v Speaker 1>get married. I mean, like it's hard right now to

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<v Speaker 1>be on your side. Yeah, it's like because it's romantic

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<v Speaker 1>like it is, you can't fight love and you still

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<v Speaker 1>never forgot about and sometimes you can't help like who

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<v Speaker 1>you're falling for, and it's not like they were married

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<v Speaker 1>and they just don't help mak it out with other

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<v Speaker 1>people while you're engaged, you can't. Part of it was acting,

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<v Speaker 1>part of them marking out was just on stage and

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<v Speaker 1>then it slipped out onto the real world. April has

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<v Speaker 1>to know that you got married and that you were

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<v Speaker 1>cheating on your fiance with her. I mean there's social media.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no way she didn't see it. That's very possible

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<v Speaker 1>that she saw it. But we have not communicated and

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<v Speaker 1>she never reached out and I never reached out, And like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying them in the right I'm like to

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<v Speaker 1>anti girl in the story, like I have a flause. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I admit to be wrong. Good, okay, but it happened.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah girl, Okay, well, let's see if we can have

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<v Speaker 1>a happy ending to the second date update. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>play us No, no, no, not just a normal Shakespearean

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<v Speaker 1>happy ending. That's that's all I'm trying to say. No,

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<v Speaker 1>just you know, a second dated Okay, we're gonna play

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<v Speaker 1>a song. We're gonna come back. We'll call April for

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<v Speaker 1>you and we'll try and get you your second date update.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, okay, thank you? All right, hold on, man,

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<v Speaker 1>but soft what light through yonder window breaks? It is

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<v Speaker 1>the D train northbound. April is the confused lady I

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<v Speaker 1>left on it if you're just tuning in. One of

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<v Speaker 1>our listeners, Mike met a girl named April five years

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<v Speaker 1>ago while they were acting in a Shakespearean play together,

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<v Speaker 1>and soon they're onstage chemistry turned into offstage chemistry on

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<v Speaker 1>one romantic evening, but that night ended with him vaguely

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<v Speaker 1>saying I'm sorry, I can't do this before leaving her

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<v Speaker 1>standing on a subway train as it pulled away. And

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<v Speaker 1>the reason why he did that is because turns out

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<v Speaker 1>he was engaged at the time and he felt guilty,

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<v Speaker 1>so he called it off, and now five years later,

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<v Speaker 1>Mike is hoping to finally reconnect with April and see

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<v Speaker 1>if there's any possibility of rekindling what they had all

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<v Speaker 1>those years ago. Now, Mike, I've been thinking about this

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<v Speaker 1>during the break and if we can get April on

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<v Speaker 1>the phone, we can definitely talk to her about that night.

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<v Speaker 1>But I really think you should be the one who

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<v Speaker 1>explains to her what happened and why you left if

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<v Speaker 1>she hasn't figured it out already, what do you think? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I need to face it. I did it. Yeah, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I would maybe speak more eloquently than that,

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<v Speaker 1>but I mean, you talk to us from the heart,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think that that's all you have to do.

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<v Speaker 1>And it could be that we get April on the

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<v Speaker 1>phone and she's married happily and doesn't want to talk

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<v Speaker 1>to you at all. So yeah, it's a possibility. Real

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<v Speaker 1>actor's cheat all the time. So you're good? Yeah, all right, man,

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<v Speaker 1>you're ready to do this? No, Like you guys mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>she might be married and stuff. Now, I'm like really nervous.

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<v Speaker 1>That never crossed your mind before. I do not understand men,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going a dollar phone number right now here we go. Okay, Hello, Hi,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm looking for April. This is she. Hi April. My

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<v Speaker 1>name's Jeffrey from the radio show Broken Jeffrey in the Morning.

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<v Speaker 1>How you doing? What is this same regards to? How

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<v Speaker 1>do I even explain this? It's a lot, Yeah, going

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<v Speaker 1>to be a lot. I hope you're not too busy

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<v Speaker 1>right now, because we have something that we would like

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<v Speaker 1>to do with you called a second date update. Have

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<v Speaker 1>you ever heard of that before? Um? No, this is

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<v Speaker 1>really interesting. Okay. I wasn't expecting this at all. Okay, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So the reason why we're calling is because we recently

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<v Speaker 1>got an email into our show from a guy who

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<v Speaker 1>says he went out on a date with you about

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<v Speaker 1>five years ago. His name's Mike. You may know him

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<v Speaker 1>as Romeo. Well, I'm not sure you guys, I think

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<v Speaker 1>that she needs to sit down. Yeah. So Mike says

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<v Speaker 1>that he met you a long time ago when you

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<v Speaker 1>were both acting in a play together. Yeah, I know

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<v Speaker 1>exactly here talking about Okay, are you okay? Yeah, I'm okay.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just so random. But it's been it's been a

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<v Speaker 1>long time, okay, Yeah, and he understands that Mike told

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<v Speaker 1>us a little bit about your relationship together, about kind

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<v Speaker 1>of connecting when you were working together in the play,

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<v Speaker 1>and how it kind of went offstage one night, and

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<v Speaker 1>you guys had a romantic evening together. Do you remember that?

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<v Speaker 1>I remember that? So what did he tell you about

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<v Speaker 1>it exactly? Oh? Oh yeah, okay, I mean, well, he

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<v Speaker 1>had very nice things to say about you, and said,

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<v Speaker 1>you guys had a great time together, checking out an

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<v Speaker 1>art museum, you made out a few times, even, and chemistry,

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<v Speaker 1>you watch your acting together, you watch around the city. Okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>And then he does admit the night ended a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit awkwardly down in the bowels of the subway station.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know why that word came to my mind.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah it did, Actually it did. So I'm really interested

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<v Speaker 1>to hear what he had to say about that. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>like a goodbye? No, Like, why in the heck would

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<v Speaker 1>he do that? You mean leave you? Yeah, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>any of it. It was the strangest thing. Yeah, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>in that moment, like, what were you thinking? I don't

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<v Speaker 1>even know what to think. Honestly, I was so excited.

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<v Speaker 1>I liked him, and he just like bounce it. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I never hear from him again. So I was hurt.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like really hurt. And I think part of

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<v Speaker 1>the reason that he reached out to us to get

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<v Speaker 1>a hold of you is because he feels guilty about

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<v Speaker 1>how it played out. Yeah, I'm sure he feels guilty.

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<v Speaker 1>And so here's the deal, April. I would love to

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<v Speaker 1>tell you why Mike did what he did in the

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<v Speaker 1>whole backstory behind it, but I think it would sound

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<v Speaker 1>a lot better if it actually came from him. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>And the thing is, I can make that happen right now,

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<v Speaker 1>because I need to let you know. Mike is on

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<v Speaker 1>the other line listening and he wants to talk to

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<v Speaker 1>you right now. Oh my god, my heart is beating

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<v Speaker 1>for you. Yeah. Laughs, I'm here. Hi everybody, Hi April. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>So what's up? Well a lot um? Yeah, we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>even start with this, Like, I hope you've been well.

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<v Speaker 1>I know this is weird talking or all this time

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<v Speaker 1>and kind of how everything went down and everything. I

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<v Speaker 1>just it's been eating at me for a while because

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<v Speaker 1>I was having a great time, Like I heard you

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<v Speaker 1>just say that, like you liked me, and I liked you,

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<v Speaker 1>and then the problem is that I had someone else

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<v Speaker 1>in my life, and I made a commitment to them.

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<v Speaker 1>I was engaged, and so when this all just happened

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<v Speaker 1>so fast, it was like in that I had that

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<v Speaker 1>moment of clarity and I just I reacted, and I

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<v Speaker 1>know it wasn't the best way to do it. I know, like,

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<v Speaker 1>why didn't Why didn't you just tell me that you're

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<v Speaker 1>engaged right? Well, because I was. I think I was

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<v Speaker 1>falling for you a bit, and it just all kind

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<v Speaker 1>of hit me like a ton of bricks and I

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<v Speaker 1>just had to step out of it. Yeah, and Mike's

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<v Speaker 1>defense when you're making out with a girl usually doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>go well when you say, oh, by the way, I'm engaged, dude,

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<v Speaker 1>they did a whole play together. He had plenty of

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity to bring it up. I mean, April, how are

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<v Speaker 1>you feeling right now? But yeah, my heart is pounding

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<v Speaker 1>because I have thought about him since it's happened. And

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<v Speaker 1>it took me a half a year until I did

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<v Speaker 1>get back on that train, and this like really affected me.

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<v Speaker 1>But you could I mean not to keep defending Mike here,

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<v Speaker 1>but you could understand when you're in the situation where

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<v Speaker 1>you have these conflicting emotions going on, and he really

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<v Speaker 1>likes you, but he also has this fiance. He just

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know what to do or what to say. He

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know how to say it to you. Could you

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<v Speaker 1>understand being in a situation like that, Yeah, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>I can understand, but like, um, I was dating somebody

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<v Speaker 1>at that time. Oh wait, you were also in a

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<v Speaker 1>relationship when that what's going on? Yeah? I was in

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<v Speaker 1>a relationship, but I wasn't engaged or anything like that. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>I was just in a relationship. Wait, what kind of relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>I had a boy friends and we were together for

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<v Speaker 1>like three years term, like a living boyfriend. Yeah. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>it was a living boyfriend, but it was Um, you

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<v Speaker 1>had a boyfriend you lived with? Yeah, I did, but

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't engaged to him. Well yeah, but like you

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<v Speaker 1>live with it. I'm just now I'm a little shocked.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm really confused. Why did it take you six months

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<v Speaker 1>to get over this when you were I mean, were

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<v Speaker 1>you actually kind of grateful that he just left because

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<v Speaker 1>then you don't have the guilt and the drama yourself. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I totally get what you're saying, But like, I really

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<v Speaker 1>liked Mike, and I would have thought about leaving my

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<v Speaker 1>boyfriend for him at that time. Kind of like double diving.

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<v Speaker 1>So one of you were single at that moment and

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<v Speaker 1>both felt for each other. You won't have a healthy relationship,

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<v Speaker 1>but it'll be good. But I said something. I stepped out.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you don't get to take a moral high

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<v Speaker 1>ground here, Mike, in a weird way. He did. I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>but he literally was like, Loug, I went too far.

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<v Speaker 1>I got it back. I'm awful. She just would have

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<v Speaker 1>kept cheating on her boyfriend until he made the first

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<v Speaker 1>movie he Cheater. They're both terrible. Yeah, both terrible. Are awful,

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<v Speaker 1>Like you don't explain it to her and then you

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<v Speaker 1>leave and you assume she's I mean, like, here's my question.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you both single right now? Because I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>we really need to double check on this. That's a

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<v Speaker 1>good point, Brook, Mike. Are you single? Yeah? I'm single? Now?

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<v Speaker 1>You got it? April? How about you? You single? Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty much single. What does that mean? That means

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<v Speaker 1>there's some guy author single, April. It's complicated, Like, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what you want me to say. I can

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<v Speaker 1>still date other people, Yeah, sure, up until the wedding

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<v Speaker 1>next week? Is messy, guys, Well, I mean are you.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you both so interested in this? It sounds like

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<v Speaker 1>they are. And that's why I think this is the

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<v Speaker 1>right time to ask April hey, like, I'll save you

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<v Speaker 1>guys the time, Like I have this romanticized thing in

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<v Speaker 1>my head. And then to find out she's been cheating

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<v Speaker 1>at the time, I'm a little offended by that. Actually

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<v Speaker 1>you were cheating, Mike, you both were cheating. I may

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<v Speaker 1>be a bad person and I may have does bad things,

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<v Speaker 1>but what she did is worse than what I did. OK.

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<v Speaker 1>But no, that was a Shakespeare quote. That was Shakespeare.

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<v Speaker 1>That is one percent. I'm not true and you're stupid

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<v Speaker 1>because I would have gone out with you. Again, I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's Shakespeare too. Broke and Jeffrey in the morning.