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Speaker 2: the day that Stupidity gets a big guest on a

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Speaker 2: day where you want the big guests, like we got

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Speaker 2: Tom Brady. He was strolling off a golf course. Again,

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Speaker 2: that's not the day you want Brady. Although we were

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Speaker 2: Doc Rivers and he is in the news because Ben

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Speaker 2: Simmons reportedly said he's not showing up to seventy six

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Speaker 6: So I thought you meant me that's my first tu Potterdy.

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Speaker 5: Is it really?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I never got that invite.

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Speaker 5: You've been on stupidody before.

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Speaker 3: Oh, never got the.

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Speaker 6: Call to the big show?

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Speaker 5: Huh?

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Speaker 2: So do you feel like a hired gun here because

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Speaker 2: we're having Doc Rivers on. I believe you have some

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Speaker 2: sort of relationship with Doc Rivers, your MBA front office insider.

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Speaker 5: Do you like a hired gut? You're insulted now that

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Speaker 5: I've never invited you on.

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Speaker 6: I mean a little bit like I thought I would

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Speaker 6: I just help you ask better questions, said Doc River.

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Speaker 2: That's exactly how I do it. It's how I roll.

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Speaker 2: It's what stupodoity is all about. Okay, when I need

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Speaker 5: To be asking, I call you about that stupodoity. Hold on,

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Speaker 5: I'm calling bullshit.

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Speaker 3: A meeting was part of our NBA Free Agent special

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Speaker 5: Why nots because it was an episode of stupotody. I

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Speaker 5: asked you questions, you answered that no, no, no.

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Speaker 6: That was just me kind of complimenting the Tom Habitstro

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Speaker 2: All right, it was so memorable. We forgot all of

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Speaker 2: us except for Mike yet. So we're gonna have Doc

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Speaker 2: their head coach. He's Doc Rivers. We talked to him.

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 2: Doc Rivers is with us, head coach of the Philadelphia

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Speaker 5: Doc, why'd you decide to get into the podcasting game?

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Speaker 4: Well, listen, John Meacham call and said, Hey, would you

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Speaker 4: like to do a podcast? And you know, I don't

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Speaker 4: know if you guys know who John Meacham is, but

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Speaker 4: he's a great political writer. He actually wrote Joe Biden's

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Speaker 4: He's been in the game a long time. And you

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Speaker 3: And I love the subject matter.

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Speaker 4: You know, we're really just going back and studying the

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Speaker 4: We're doing one with about Muhammad Ali, one about Hank Aaron,

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Speaker 3: And then we did the first The first one was

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Speaker 3: Honestly, Uh. What was hard for me is doing the readings.

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Speaker 5: You know, same here, Doc, I feel you trust my goodness.

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Speaker 4: I can read a book, but I can't read You know.

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Speaker 4: It was funny. You know you have to announce it everything,

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Speaker 3: Doc.

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Speaker 6: I gotta tell you, this guy has one of the

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Speaker 3: He can't unciate anything.

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Speaker 5: Neither guy that can you.

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Speaker 4: When we talked, we don't realize it. But when you're

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Speaker 3: That word is just said.

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Speaker 5: I was like, oh my gosh, just keep it moving.

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Speaker 2: Just keep it moving, Doc, and tell your producers to

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Speaker 2: bleep off again. But Doc, why are these stories and

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Speaker 2: these speeches, Why were they so important to you?

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Speaker 3: I just love the just each one of them.

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Speaker 4: I mean, just Muhammad Ali's life, the interesting ones.

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Speaker 3: I tell you it was so interesting.

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Speaker 4: Yes, the I interviewed Tim Tebow and you guys, you know,

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Speaker 6: Lot doc you played for pat Riley. He's been known

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Speaker 4: Oh my god, that's a great question, because there is.

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Speaker 3: Car wreck, another car wreck. And I want to say

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Speaker 4: about it, we had Charles Oakley, Patrick Ewing, Mace John Starks.

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Speaker 2: It was said Sports narrated by legendary NBA coach Doc

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Speaker 2: Rivers is out every Wednesday. There will be a new episode, Doc.

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Speaker 5: We got you all night.

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Speaker 2: Well for us, a good day. I don't know if

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Speaker 2: it's a good day for you. But I'm gonna start

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Speaker 2: here with Ben. I won't spend too much time on it,

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Speaker 2: I told him. And if I go too far with Ben,

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Speaker 2: Simmons just kicked me under the table.

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Speaker 3: I mean, not gonna chick you. He bore you to

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Speaker 2: And I do have five fill in the blanks and

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Speaker 2: lightened it up and make it fun. But let's just

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Speaker 3: About two weeks ago?

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Speaker 5: Okay, and what was the move?

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Speaker 2: Were you surprised to hear the news the reports that

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Speaker 4: I wasn't surprised by it at all. But that doesn't

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Speaker 4: mean we want that to happen. We don't. We feel

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Speaker 3: Can to do that.

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Speaker 6: Doc you go into camp, Ben's not there. What's the

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Speaker 6: he'll be here soon, or you guys move on?

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Speaker 4: If you don't move on, because you hope that we

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Speaker 3: That's for sure.

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Speaker 3: And camp hasn't happened yet, so we don't know.

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Speaker 4: I mean, right now he's saying that, Uh maybe uh,

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Speaker 4: that you've been around long enough, you know things change

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Speaker 4: Seawn Elliott was traded by the Spurs and then fell

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Speaker 4: and they win the World Championship. So, uh, this is

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Speaker 5: What was Ben's mood a couple of weeks ago when

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Speaker 4: Oh, it's the same, you know, like he's and it's

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Speaker 4: not a personal thing. It's just at that point right now,

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Speaker 4: we didn't win, you know, And you guys would be

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Speaker 4: surprised how often as a coach I go through that.

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Speaker 4: You don't win something you put all your edge and

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Speaker 4: then something it doesn't work out and then guys, you know,

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Speaker 4: they get hurt, they want to leave. It happened more

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Speaker 4: than you think. Let me put it that way, and

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Speaker 4: so that's basically what it was all about.

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