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Speaker 1: Welcome to the show. The commissioner of fun Ian's in

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Speaker 1: You know. He's got Chelsea Maymay um and she's what

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Speaker 1: to give and receive PTSD the whole time. I mean,

423
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Speaker 1: it's just facts. That's one way of state in the truth.

424
00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:02,840
Speaker 1: I've been to analyze this because when I when I retired,

425
00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:05,520
Speaker 1: I was a fucking mess from being the drug addicted,

426
00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:11,960
Speaker 1: abused psycho just nightmare of a person um to where

427
00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:13,320
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, I'm gonna pull the gun on

428
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Speaker 1: my mouth and just think like I have a kid,

429
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Speaker 1: I can't. I can't kill myself. Um, but I knew

430
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Speaker 1: we could heal my body because we already healed hers

431
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Speaker 1: with cannabis. She got juvenal rumatarthritis when she was two.

432
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Speaker 1: You know, a few years later she's healed. This is

433
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Speaker 1: your daughter. Yeah, So I took that approach to myself.

434
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Speaker 1: And at that point, my brother's always been into psychedelics.

435
00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:35,520
Speaker 1: My dad always preached about him. I was friends with

436
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Speaker 1: Joe Rogan at the time. Joe was always talking about him.

437
00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:39,119
Speaker 1: So like, I'm gonna go down my own and I

438
00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:43,119
Speaker 1: love science. Um Like, if you hang out with me,

439
00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:45,359
Speaker 1: you realize where a nerd I am because I'm constantly

440
00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:48,960
Speaker 1: listening to scientific podcast and just tough nerdy to me,

441
00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:52,760
Speaker 1: you know, to the point where now I'm doing a

442
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Speaker 1: traumatic brains are you study with the University of Miami. Really,

443
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Speaker 1: I don't have any education, but the fact when I

444
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Speaker 1: talked to some doctors, listen, because I know what the

445
00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:03,639
Speaker 1: fuck I'm talking about, and I've had and I have

446
00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:07,600
Speaker 1: you know, I have knowledge of I understand how to

447
00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:11,119
Speaker 1: apply it to things already, like like fighting, like training,

448
00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:16,440
Speaker 1: like driving race cars, I mean, snowboarding, surfing, big waves,

449
00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:19,680
Speaker 1: like knuckle fight, kncle fighting. Is it all sports? I

450
00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:22,240
Speaker 1: mean football players, you feel like basketball players should be.

451
00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:24,879
Speaker 1: This is a case study to just show everyone you

452
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Speaker 1: want to perform better at fucking anything, here you go.

453
00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:29,960
Speaker 1: If these guys can do it in a cage while fighting,

454
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Speaker 1: you can make your life a little better using this

455
00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:35,840
Speaker 1: because there's a there's a healing aspect to it, to

456
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Speaker 1: heal old trauma to brain damage. There's a protecting value,

457
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Speaker 1: and then there's a performance of benefits. Can I ask

458
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Speaker 1: you about the difference between a performance benefit of like

459
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Speaker 1: as an air protected between cannabis and and psilocybin, because

460
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Speaker 1: there's so much research being done right now, but what

461
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Speaker 1: have you found in real life? In real life? How

462
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Speaker 1: have you seen the differences between people using cannabis as

463
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Speaker 1: an air protecting versus people using psilocybin's nerve protectors. And

464
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Speaker 1: we're gonna get that in you're right after this break

465
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Speaker 1: it's Cannabis Talk one oh one. Will be right back

466
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Speaker 1: after this. We'll be right back with Cannabis Top one

467
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Speaker 1: oh one. Welcome back to Cannabis Talk one oh one.

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Speaker 1: right there. Mark and Ian are with us right now, Jessica,

475
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Speaker 1: you asked them such a great question before we went

476
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Speaker 1: to break. I want to get right into the answer.

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Speaker 1: Do you want to repeat the question or do you

478
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Speaker 1: remember if please go ahead and get it. So we've

479
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Speaker 1: done a lot of a lot of shows who we've

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Speaker 1: talked a lot about the neuroprotecting agents of cannabis, but

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Speaker 1: neuroprotecting as from psilocybin. How have you seen in real

482
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Speaker 1: life situations? What's the difference that you've seen from from

483
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Speaker 1: an athletic standpoint, somebody who's smoking cannabis as a neuroprotector

484
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Speaker 1: and somebody who's using and use your anecdotal evidence mark

485
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Speaker 1: as well, like what you guys notice both of you, Yeah,

486
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:10,240
Speaker 1: so you have there are they work off different inflammatory

487
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Speaker 1: pathways were different. So you have the five HT two

488
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Speaker 1: A receptive pathway which is a serotonum receptor which is

489
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Speaker 1: what psychedelics work off of, and get back to that.

490
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Speaker 1: Then you have cannabinoid pathway, which is the cannabinoid pathway.

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Speaker 1: The only difference is you're not going to have a

492
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Speaker 1: visionary state out of cannabis. It doesn't make it that happen.

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Speaker 1: I mean you can, but not the same way you

494
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Speaker 1: would with psilocybin. So you have two different pathways that

495
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Speaker 1: are being in an uninflammed. This is a formulation I

496
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Speaker 1: made five years ago. They kind of got me like

497
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Speaker 1: cool in the scene of science where they're like, holy shit,

498
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Speaker 1: ho'd you do that? It was like, it wasn't that hard.

499
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Speaker 1: I just thought I should. How am I having this idea? First?

500
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Speaker 1: Stoners have been have been taking mushrooms and weed for

501
00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,200
Speaker 1: a long time. You know they go hand in hand.

502
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Speaker 1: But to actually have it's scientifically shown, you know, uh,

503
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:06,119
Speaker 1: and and have the studies being done on it realistic.

504
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Speaker 1: That's what I've been doing with athletes for a long time. UM.

505
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Speaker 1: I have a new product coming out It's called Dragonfly

506
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Speaker 1: Medicines where I'm gonna have this actual performance dose UM

507
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Speaker 1: with CBD psilocybin. I might put for a c O

508
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Speaker 1: d MT in it. I'm not sure, it's what's that

509
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Speaker 1: It's a this is a horrible like way to put it.

510
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:30,840
Speaker 1: But people say it's the cocaine of psychedelics. UM gets going.

511
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Speaker 1: It's which I hate. I hate that, hey, but I

512
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:38,120
Speaker 1: like it's the caffeine UM, which I have to figure

513
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Speaker 1: out why. You know, it's not like where a mushroom

514
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Speaker 1: I can go, Well, this mushroom has more atp in

515
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Speaker 1: than it didn't seem try phosphate, so it gives you

516
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Speaker 1: a higher energy output. But like this, I have no idea.

517
00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:50,480
Speaker 1: It's a synthetic molecule. UM. Yeah, this is anecdotal. But

518
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Speaker 1: I actually took a sample of it just the other

519
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Speaker 1: day before one of my runs. And I record all

520
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Speaker 1: my runs because I record all my workout data track. Yeah,

521
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Speaker 1: and I ran over a six mile run. I ran,

522
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,720
Speaker 1: I knocked one minute off my mile time, Like wow,

523
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Speaker 1: against all the other runs that I averaged like eight

524
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Speaker 1: and a half minute miles over six mile runs, I

525
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Speaker 1: did seven and a half. Did you find that you

526
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Speaker 1: was it was that? Was that a result of you

527
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Speaker 1: being more focused and in the moment or is that

528
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,040
Speaker 1: a result of you having more energy? You know, it

529
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Speaker 1: just seems to have better performance benefits for endurance and

530
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Speaker 1: especially like you know, intensive cardiovascular And do you think

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Speaker 1: that that was a result of the d MT component

532
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 1: or the result of the of the sill setting component,

533
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:36,000
Speaker 1: um whatever formulation that we were using from Dragonfly. Yeah,

534
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,280
Speaker 1: so this was this and this wasn't even the formulation.

535
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:40,040
Speaker 1: This was just a for a CEO gummy. I might

536
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Speaker 1: try this out. You're gonna like this, um ummy, because yeah,

537
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:47,720
Speaker 1: come here, Mark, what's up your turnaround? We're gonna do

538
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:50,720
Speaker 1: this time. What we're doing, we're doing it for science. Um.

539
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,360
Speaker 1: But seriously, this is this is how I researched things.

540
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I just love it. No, that's that's funny

541
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Speaker 1: that you say about your normal researcher. I guess no.

542
00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:00,640
Speaker 1: I mean that's one of those things where I find

543
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:04,880
Speaker 1: myself extremely agile when I'm using psilocybin in any dose

544
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 1: really but m and there are doses where I forget

545
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:09,440
Speaker 1: about the agile partner. I'm just having a good time

546
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 1: and you know, kind of forget about that. But like

547
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 1: things like funny things like playing darts, are playing pool,

548
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 1: I find that I'm extremely agile and extremely focused and

549
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 1: I do so much better. And I think it's because

550
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,359
Speaker 1: in the moment, I find I like to think of

551
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:24,680
Speaker 1: it as you know, you take a picture and it's

552
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 1: one solid frame versus when you're on psilocybin, it seems

553
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 1: as though you're you're capturing more frames per second, and

554
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:33,800
Speaker 1: it almost slows that time down to micro images, so

555
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:39,640
Speaker 1: you every image is individually calculated instead of one whole image,

556
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 1: or like seeing all the pixels instead of a whole image,

557
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:43,680
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And I find that it's

558
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 1: a good way of Psilocybin is proven to increase visual acuity.

559
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:50,680
Speaker 1: I like to take it before sparring on hard training days.

560
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:53,440
Speaker 1: Do you find that you see that my vision is better?

561
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 1: And I'm also more creative. I'm more relaxed in there,

562
00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:58,680
Speaker 1: and I'm able to be more fluid, like in the

563
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:02,680
Speaker 1: flow state or flow zone, you know. I find it's

564
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 1: great for anxiety and things like that, as far as

565
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Speaker 1: curbing it so that you can go out and perform. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: what it does so it drops your fear response. Your

567
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:12,680
Speaker 1: fear response is the thing that puts you into fight

568
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 1: or flight. If you can drop that, the body can

569
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 1: go into flow a lot easier. But also that I

570
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 1: mean your fear, your fear response would also make you

571
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,639
Speaker 1: hesitant to do anything. If you're running, if you're getting

572
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 1: too much speed at the time in the fils of

573
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Speaker 1: bare knuckles. Yes, if you're cowering or if you're closing

574
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Speaker 1: your eyes, you're hesitating. I mean, I might even say

575
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Speaker 1: if you're dealing with anxiety and you're feeling stress of life.

576
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 1: Motor skills go down by fifty percent once your heart

577
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 1: rate reaches a certain percentage of its max. So one

578
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:49,240
Speaker 1: of the things that's really important for sports performance is

579
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Speaker 1: making sure that you keep your heart rate at or

580
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Speaker 1: below a certain percentage in order to not have that

581
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:57,320
Speaker 1: decline and motor skills. That's actually the next thing I

582
00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 1: need to get in tested with is UM getting is

583
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 1: is uh, you know, Codabasker output measured, getting us heart

584
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 1: rate measured, and getting all this stuff for the peak

585
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 1: and everything ever the peak just because you know that

586
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 1: that's them. I have more analytics because if i'm if

587
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 1: I am going to be out here having you know,

588
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 1: my satellite office for the University of Miami running studies

589
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 1: when traumatic brain injury and sports performance, like, I need

590
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 1: these numbers. Yeah, you know, I know most people would

591
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 1: wouldn't understand because this again. I'm a doric. This is

592
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:29,960
Speaker 1: the rabbit hole I went down, Um and I love it,

593
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 1: you know? And what athletes now that because of you

594
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 1: saying these things, and you've got guys like Mark that

595
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 1: are you know, out there whooping ass showing it it's

596
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 1: proven and he's out there going dude, I just took

597
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 1: it before sport. I got a minute off my mile.

598
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 1: When you do and you claim this anecdotal evidence like that,

599
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 1: are more people looking at you ian going dude, I

600
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:50,320
Speaker 1: need to try this? Then? Yes, a lot of people.

601
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 1: And it's again that's my case study is using a

602
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,239
Speaker 1: gummy like this for fighters in the UFC. A lot

603
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 1: of people at the UFC take this. Yeah, tell me

604
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 1: about that about this part as arcos are I r

605
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Speaker 1: g O s and these gummies are and what's in

606
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 1: these gummies? Are they going to come up on a

607
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 1: drug test for these fighters? No? No, that's that's exactly

608
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 1: so I'm working with the UFC. I got them to

609
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:14,960
Speaker 1: agree to a psilocybin study with Johns Hopkins University a

610
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 1: few years ago for traumatic brain injury. And uh yeah,

611
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 1: that was like the first big feather in my cap.

612
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 1: And Dana would like said oh look what Ian did.

613
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:24,960
Speaker 1: And Jeff DIVITZI said, oh look what Ian did, and

614
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:28,640
Speaker 1: then my phone is not stopped bringing ever since. Yeah,

615
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 1: it has some good backing right there, right, And you

616
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 1: know Uncle Dane has always been good to me. Jeff

617
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Speaker 1: Devitsky like has has been. Are you gonna get guys

618
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 1: like Scott Cooker too involved and you and here his

619
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Speaker 1: whole strike force and all too. Yeah, I mean for sure,

620
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Speaker 1: I know people everywhere in the m m A. Um,

621
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Speaker 1: no one has gotten back to me from Velator recently,

622
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Speaker 1: just because I was I was asking for tickets. I

623
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Speaker 1: wanted to go see Fader and and um what's his name? Fight?

624
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Speaker 1: And you know it was I was in La, right, Yeah,

625
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Speaker 1: it was in La. Actually everyone was there, Like, I

626
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Speaker 1: just didn't get tickets. I should have. Um, I had

627
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Speaker 1: a couple products. Tells more about your product, though, So

628
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Speaker 1: how many milligrams or how many are argos? Was the

629
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Speaker 1: first uh you know, product to market with just a

630
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Speaker 1: pure extract, And people, are these tastes so good? I'm like,

631
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Speaker 1: because we've been doing it for so long, we have

632
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Speaker 1: um one of the two strongest extracts I've ever seen.

633
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Speaker 1: The numbers for the actual Certificate of Analysis. It's the

634
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 1: most full spectrum, it's got the biggest trip to mean profile,

635
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 1: and it's the strongest. There's one of two and we're

636
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 1: they're both like neck and neck. Um. And then this

637
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 1: is talking about someone else's product. You know, that's that's

638
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 1: to date. We always had the best stuff until very recently,

639
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 1: uh to where now though everyone's kind of leveled up

640
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 1: when you have a different flavors in different areas. Um,

641
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 1: but argos having this this one milligram is at equal

642
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 1: to about one hundred milligrams of ground up mushrooms, which

643
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 1: is an actual subperceptual microdose. Everybody, especially in cannabis, is like,

644
00:31:58,440 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 1: I want to feel it, and it's like that's not

645
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 1: the point, you know, like mushrooms shouldn't be You shouldn't

646
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 1: be getting high off mushrooms that much. It shouldn't be

647
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 1: the whole eighth Because I grew up doing the age whoa,

648
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 1: and I'm seeing little army men coming across my like microwave,

649
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 1: and I'll never forget so hard about human optimization and

650
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 1: also helping you know, little autistic children or soccer moms

651
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 1: or brain surgeons depression, or cops and firemen the amount

652
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 1: of people that are taking this product and they all know,

653
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 1: like whether they work for the government or not, they're like, hey,

654
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 1: this is really good for you. And and also you know,

655
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 1: I've been contacted by you know, I've I've talked from

656
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 1: people in the government. We'll just say, and they're not

657
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 1: looking after people stuff like this. There. If you if

658
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 1: you do dumb shit, of course they're gonna bust you.

659
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 1: If you don't, you know, if you don't pay the piper,

660
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 1: you know the way you need to, Uh, they're gonna

661
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 1: come see you. So if you just act responsibly. In plus,

662
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 1: I work on a political level, I work for churches,

663
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 1: I work, um, you know with with veterans and again

664
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 1: autistic people and what there's I apply this to so

665
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 1: many different things. You're working with the right people, and

666
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 1: you're doing it for the right You're not slaying it

667
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 1: on the street to just like hey man, I'm trying

668
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 1: to use this is strictly medicine and try to help

669
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 1: people with their elements that they need healing on. Yes, exactly,

670
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 1: these are only one one milligram programmy, Yes, one milligram,

671
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 1: which is equal to about one hundred milligrams. And I

672
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 1: even tell peop you can obviously cut it in half

673
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:24,960
Speaker 1: because now our our extraction method is so advanced and

674
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 1: it's such a good, such good potency um that maybe

675
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 1: you need to cut it in half. Now, how do

676
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 1: you get how do you get one one milligram to

677
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 1: be as potent as one hundred milligrams in terms of benefits?

678
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 1: But because it's it's just it's you just have to

679
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 1: just make them the same one and the same because

680
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 1: one hundred milligrams have ground up mushrooms is the same strength,

681
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 1: which you can never take you know, a certain amount

682
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 1: of mushrooms and go this is how much is in there?

683
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 1: So that's why we had to extracted. It's just the science.

684
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 1: I can't get an actual like real analytics on so

685
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 1: there's no way to there's no way to really say like,

686
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 1: oh well, eighth the mushrooms is this mini ground There's

687
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 1: no way because it's like it's a dried It's like

688
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 1: it's like mushroom jerky. It's all dried and like some

689
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:12,800
Speaker 1: of you shouldn't put in your body, you know, like

690
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 1: it's not you shouldn't, but it's just upsets your stomach.

691
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:19,360
Speaker 1: You know, it can be gassy or whatever, whatever. Everyone

692
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:21,440
Speaker 1: has issues with eating mushrooms, you know, with their stomach

693
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:24,840
Speaker 1: is because this is not theah, especially if you're not

694
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:26,360
Speaker 1: grinding them up. If you grind them up, you have

695
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:29,400
Speaker 1: more bioavailability, so you can get to extract more yourself.

696
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 1: You have more surface area obviously to break it down with.

697
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,360
Speaker 1: And it's not like the hardened structure. So did you

698
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 1: guys extract it to a liquid form or you just

699
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:40,359
Speaker 1: breaking it down to just a bunch of chopped up

700
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:43,359
Speaker 1: the liquid forms. Well, first it's got to be pop

701
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 1: pulverized and then they put it through it through an

702
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 1: extraction method, whether it's alcohol, water, and uh, and then

703
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 1: you have the products. You know, then you have to

704
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 1: purify it and ort depends. You know what storm of

705
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:58,239
Speaker 1: form of alcohol are you using, because that's gonna that's

706
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 1: gonna give you a different ship to mean profile, like

707
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 1: you know what sort of um I get to learn

708
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 1: all this stuff from, like amazing scientists that like our

709
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,319
Speaker 1: build have built the game so far from people from

710
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:11,280
Speaker 1: the sixties and seventies, like a dear mentor mind Robert Forte,

711
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:14,799
Speaker 1: he wrote some amazing books at Timothy Leary and people

712
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:18,920
Speaker 1: like that. Gordon Wasson, Carl Rock to scientists like Matthew

713
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 1: Johnson and Johns Hopkins or Melissa Don I've worked with

714
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:25,320
Speaker 1: Melissa on and off for a long time. Don Scientific.

715
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:27,840
Speaker 1: She's built three, so the first three psilocybin labs in

716
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,399
Speaker 1: the world. She built the one in Jamaica, the first one,

717
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:34,359
Speaker 1: and she's built one in the Netherlands. She's built him

718
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 1: in this country, and she's you know, like, these are

719
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 1: the genius people that I get to just go past

720
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:42,399
Speaker 1: rip with questions. And it's crazy to think because as

721
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:45,759
Speaker 1: cannabis has had their labs for the last fifteen twenty years,

722
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 1: maybe now you were talking about three labs that are

723
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:50,239
Speaker 1: out there for psilocybin. So it's you know, it's it's

724
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:53,759
Speaker 1: a decade or so away from where cannabis was right

725
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 1: and now that you're saying or you're studying now how

726
00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 1: to use cannabis and psilocybin together. Yes, I like to

727
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,359
Speaker 1: not everyone wants to be stone, especially putting a large

728
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 1: scale product out there. It's they're just putting. I have

729
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:09,880
Speaker 1: to pull t AC out of it because that affects

730
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:12,239
Speaker 1: people in a certain way. The CBD. If I'm just

731
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 1: looking at pure performance, the CBDs there and the TC's not. Um.

732
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:18,279
Speaker 1: Not everyone can perform high like we can. We were

733
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:21,240
Speaker 1: always smoking weed and training. Some people can, but I'm

734
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:24,400
Speaker 1: just saying the larger market is without it. So but

735
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:26,880
Speaker 1: most fighters, I would think like to smoke weed. A

736
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 1: lot of fighters like the smoke weed. I think it

737
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 1: going hand in hands. I mean I was fighting back

738
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 1: in the days and everybody I knew R I don't

739
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:33,800
Speaker 1: think there was one fighter that didn't smoke. We're on

740
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:37,759
Speaker 1: the Weed podcast right now, exactly right like we're here

741
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:40,920
Speaker 1: talk't yeah, you know to join earlier. Yeah, And you know,

742
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:46,399
Speaker 1: they're those fighters are some of the smartest athletes out there,

743
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 1: you know, and they're finally making good money. But they're

744
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 1: not they're not making the same money that most athletes are,

745
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:56,319
Speaker 1: not even close. Um, but they're finally able to take

746
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 1: care of themselves and they're reaching a level of fame

747
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 1: pretty um across the board, you know, and like cheet

748
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:04,720
Speaker 1: O there is like the but justin Bieber of Ecuador,

749
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,320
Speaker 1: you know, like he's huge and he's got such a

750
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:09,919
Speaker 1: cool story and follow it. I've known cheet Do since

751
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,759
Speaker 1: he first came over here. Um, and you know, he's

752
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 1: a dear friend of mine, I ant want to point

753
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 1: out I think that this, I mean huge ups like

754
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 1: I think the UFC so much credit right now because

755
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 1: they've started accepting sponsorships from cannabis CBD companies, and I

756
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:27,319
Speaker 1: think that is just massive, really massive. Yeah, I don't

757
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 1: think they have. They I didn't see any yet. I

758
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:31,479
Speaker 1: don't know wat watch this guys. Y'all keep talking about

759
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 1: pull it up, pull it up. Yeah, I believe you.

760
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:36,319
Speaker 1: I just didn't know what company has been on there.

761
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:39,799
Speaker 1: I like the fact that though they I know, uh,

762
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:43,760
Speaker 1: what's his name right there, Diaz was smoking that CBD

763
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 1: blunt our joint on stage when he was there. A yeah,

764
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 1: I mean, so my point he said, they've done something. Ironically,

765
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:53,880
Speaker 1: there's some UFC fighters on our screen right there, moreno

766
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,759
Speaker 1: and this and that's so perfect timing right there, right

767
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 1: as uh, we have our screenplay and now we have

768
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:01,359
Speaker 1: you guys here. We gotta put you guys on there.

769
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:02,920
Speaker 1: Want to make the new highlight up. I was. I

770
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 1: was actually in business with the UFC on a CBD level.

771
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 1: They've always used the product that I used to was,

772
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:11,840
Speaker 1: you know, working with and one part of invested in

773
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:15,239
Speaker 1: what was called Elexicure. It was a CBD product. They

774
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 1: took out the CBD and made it life way easier

775
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 1: for the company. But the UFC loved it and it

776
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 1: was the only thing they would use at the Performance Institute.

777
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:23,440
Speaker 1: And then I tried to do a business deal with

778
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:26,359
Speaker 1: them and we just it was too much, like they're

779
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 1: they're expensive. You know, it's not there. Yeah, paid a

780
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:31,360
Speaker 1: player over there. Yeah, there's obviously people who can afford it,

781
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 1: but we couldn't. It was just like it was millions.

782
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 1: It was a very large contract. So I know what

783
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 1: these people are having to pay for this. Yeah, that

784
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:42,400
Speaker 1: gives me hope. Where did you find Yeah? So in

785
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 1: two thousand and one, So I did. I did by

786
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:47,240
Speaker 1: the big as of years. Don't know about it, uh, cannabis.

787
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:50,800
Speaker 1: Stark magazine just came out an article. So one of

788
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 1: the articles we did was about sponsorships and about big

789
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 1: form of sponsoring certain the NFL and those sort of things.

790
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:00,120
Speaker 1: And in that research I found that the UFC you

791
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:04,880
Speaker 1: just accepted, just started accepting sponsorships from um cannabis companies

792
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:08,399
Speaker 1: last year. Acting in two thousand and one. So Love

793
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 1: Hemp Group just became a sponsor of the UFC, which

794
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 1: is the first nine. I had a feeling you're right

795
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 1: because I remember you doing that research and that's good.

796
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:21,359
Speaker 1: That was when you're interviewing Kyle Turlei or Jim mcmah right. Yeah, yeah,

797
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 1: I remember seeing that little sub thing in the magazine

798
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 1: of your proof of whatever, like readysflect your article that

799
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:30,880
Speaker 1: supports my theory. Yeah. Actually Aurora was going to come

800
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 1: in also at for thirty. So what she's saying is

801
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 1: piss off to you. Basically I'm saying, no, I'm saying

802
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 1: this is I'm saying that it's true. What I'm really

803
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:43,760
Speaker 1: saying is that as that even like the Sports Commission

804
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:46,239
Speaker 1: that's say in the NFL does not allow cannabis, but

805
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 1: they're kind of like, yeah, giving a heads up when

806
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 1: they're testing finally, but yeah, they're still not fucking full on. Hey,

807
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 1: let's use it. The UFC would love the money because

808
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:57,279
Speaker 1: those companies are coming to pay him a lot of money.

809
00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:58,840
Speaker 1: But what I am what I am trying to make

810
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 1: a point of about this is if the UFC is

811
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:05,760
Speaker 1: accepting um sponsor money from a cannabis company, it's showing

812
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:08,879
Speaker 1: the industry as a whole, including psilocybin as a whole

813
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 1: alternative health medicine, alternative plant medicine that it is. It

814
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 1: can be used to serve as a nerd protectant, and

815
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:20,239
Speaker 1: it's it's accepting that, you know what I mean. Yeah,

816
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 1: and you're starting to see now the Athletic Commissions are

817
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 1: no longer penalizing the athletes for testing positive for THHC.

818
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 1: You know, if you remember Nick Diaz got suspended initially

819
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:33,360
Speaker 1: I think for five years. That's right before they i

820
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 1: think they reduced it to one and a half. But uh,

821
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 1: you know, that was not that long ago when people's

822
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 1: careers were being ended for smoking pot, and now it

823
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 1: is essentially decriminalized, you know, in the sport. And what

824
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:51,279
Speaker 1: are you feeling, Mark when you're taking this, Like you're

825
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:54,359
Speaker 1: actively fighting right now and you're doing the bare knuckle fighting, which,

826
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:56,399
Speaker 1: let's just face it, that's fucking tougher on the body

827
00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 1: in the world. Yeah, there's it's like, you know, it's

828
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 1: not like, I mean, I'm just watching the clips and

829
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:04,360
Speaker 1: I thought it was a glove, but it was just

830
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:06,399
Speaker 1: his risk that were like wrapped. I'm like, ohly shit,

831
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 1: there's not a glove on that motherfucker. Like you know,

832
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:12,280
Speaker 1: And so my point to that is you fought first

833
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:15,720
Speaker 1: with gloves, you're fighting with no gloves as you're taking

834
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 1: this medicine now that Ian's producing making for you. Have

835
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:23,040
Speaker 1: you noticed because of the early times or maybe you

836
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 1: never had sometimes where you weren't taking this type of medicine,

837
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 1: Like what is the recovery because like when you think

838
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 1: about steroids, the Barry Bonds, well, why is you doing

839
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 1: steroids because he could hit better, he can do better?

840
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 1: Is this almost like a I don't want to use

841
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 1: the comparison, but I want to use the comparison. A

842
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:42,320
Speaker 1: steroid that just reinhances the body, allows you to bounce

843
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 1: back quicker because that's his face it. That's what steroid

844
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 1: did for Barry Bonds. Using that analogy, and when you

845
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 1: do take a steroid, that's what helps you to recover

846
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:52,360
Speaker 1: faster in this and that. But is this helping you

847
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:55,399
Speaker 1: recover faster as well as everything else that you've said,

848
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 1: which is the mental state and everything else. But I'm

849
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 1: mostly thinking about their recovery time because fighting, especially bare knuckles,

850
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 1: you're in pain after training, you're in training, you're you're

851
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 1: hurting after with gloves. Yeah, I gotta go to sparring

852
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 1: after this. I'm gonna go fight some professional boxers in

853
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 1: a gym, you know, for extended rounds. The difference between

854
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 1: steroids and THHC specifically, you know, steroids can give you

855
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 1: superhuman strength, which can cause moral dilemmas when it comes

856
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 1: to men trying to hurt each other if we're supernaturally

857
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 1: enhancing psyche too. Right, Well, it's just in the brain

858
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 1: damage that can be caused along with that. You know,

859
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 1: people do die every single year in combat sports, whether

860
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:39,879
Speaker 1: it be you know, boxing, kickboxing, whatever I've heard. Also,

861
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:42,359
Speaker 1: it affects your your restraint, like your restraint from going

862
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 1: too far. Well, damage to your prefrontal cortex can affect

863
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 1: people's impulsivity, that is true. But yeah, all kinds of

864
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 1: damage caused to the brain from fighting. So being able

865
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:58,400
Speaker 1: to use products like THHC and CBD that helps with

866
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 1: inflammation and recovery, you know, is a huge benefit to athletes.

867
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 1: Does does pili sepen have any sort of anti inflammatory benefit? Yeah,

868
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 1: So there's a process called epigenetic neurogenesis that happens. Epigenetic

869
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:12,239
Speaker 1: neuro I wish I had a nerd bell so I

870
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 1: could click exactly, and I love you for that. So awesome.

871
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:19,279
Speaker 1: I like learn these big words. Say it again? What

872
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:23,880
Speaker 1: is it? Or you guys? Yeah, you guys have are

873
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 1: you here about neuroplasticity? Yeah, okay, so this is what

874
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 1: you're creating. You have chemicals like brain derivingotrophic factor peptide glutamate.

875
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:35,759
Speaker 1: Glutamate is the precursor to NAD or nicotine's side added

876
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:37,840
Speaker 1: nine nuclear tide the stuff that people are putting in

877
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:42,320
Speaker 1: their ivs now to like actually reverse them. I was

878
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 1: just texting someone early about nuclear pops whatever. Yeah, it's

879
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:51,759
Speaker 1: it's the stuff. I was just talking about that. So

880
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 1: rich people are getting ivs all the time and they're

881
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 1: putting NAD in there. NAD actually stops or reverses the

882
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 1: biological clock, the bioloctric age clocks where you actually you're

883
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:05,920
Speaker 1: getting younger. Apparently it's basically stopping it and the energy

884
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 1: you get out of it, and just the cellular generation

885
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 1: and all these amazing things that happen um with and

886
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 1: that's in like a high dose. Obviously in an ivy

887
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 1: with with the microdose, you're producing that same sort of

888
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:24,759
Speaker 1: molecule in your body. It's more more naturally obviously, um,

889
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 1: but when you have it in your system for a

890
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 1: longer period of time, then you're actually healing the gray

891
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:33,879
Speaker 1: matter of the brain. And when silocybin goes into the body,

892
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 1: it goes in as psilocybin silas in um, and then

893
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:40,239
Speaker 1: when it's at silas and silasen's the serotonin analog. So

894
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:43,400
Speaker 1: it looks exactly like the serotonin molecule, acts exactly like it.

895
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:46,400
Speaker 1: When it hits this receptor, it turns a receptor on,

896
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:49,800
Speaker 1: and then you have a very big anti inflammatory effect

897
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 1: in the pathway and you and you have five HT

898
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 1: two A receptors in your skin. So eventually people are

899
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:57,479
Speaker 1: going to be having like, you know, mushroom mud bass.

900
00:44:57,560 --> 00:45:00,840
Speaker 1: I think if that retreats, probably gis fucked too. I mean,

901
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 1: is it is it bio Is it bioavailable topically? Yeah,

902
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:07,360
Speaker 1: it is, if it's if it's if it's extracted properly,

903
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:09,280
Speaker 1: and I mean there's other ways I can do mushrooms

904
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 1: and I didn't even know about it. Yeah, well no,

905
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:13,239
Speaker 1: and this is okay. So my my X was a

906
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 1: UCLA professor and she was on QVC selling her own

907
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 1: products like she's a total package bombshell woman. Um. And

908
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 1: was selling like skincare products, so she formulated in her

909
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 1: lab and just hearing getting to live with her for

910
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 1: a couple of years and just hear her be smart

911
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:29,880
Speaker 1: constantly just roll over and ask her questions, but what

912
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:32,359
Speaker 1: about this? And she actually made the still as having

913
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:36,439
Speaker 1: mask Yeah, and it was it was it felt great.

914
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:39,279
Speaker 1: Is this available? Like are you guys actually producing this? No? No,

915
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 1: just go make it. Just get out of the ascid

916
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 1: in debate or you know, scream ian as. You see

917
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 1: all these anecdotal things, and you work with all these

918
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 1: high labs, and then you work with all these scientists, doctors,

919
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 1: professors at accredited you know, universities, and you see the benefits,

920
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:58,399
Speaker 1: and then you have a fighter who's currently fighting like Mark,

921
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:00,720
Speaker 1: and I'm sure tons of others that you just haven't mentioned,

922
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:04,319
Speaker 1: and all your other anecdotal proof that you see, how

923
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:07,759
Speaker 1: far well not on, how far are we? What is

924
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:10,879
Speaker 1: the problem you think? I know this is a total hypothetical,

925
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 1: it's only your opinion. What is the problem from people

926
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 1: seeing in our government saying this is enough proof, this

927
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:21,879
Speaker 1: is enough evidence, even though it's anecdotal. What's it gonna

928
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 1: take to get to that next level? Like CBD got

929
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:26,759
Speaker 1: to that federal approval, you know what I mean, not

930
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:29,279
Speaker 1: cannabis yet, because it's still not even though you think

931
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 1: it is. Everybody thinks cannabis is legal. It's really not,

932
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 1: but it is whatever, you know what I mean, when

933
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:37,360
Speaker 1: are we going to get to that thc CBD got

934
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:39,759
Speaker 1: a proof first by the FDA. Right, So for those

935
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:42,239
Speaker 1: that really don't understand that, think about the TC plant.

936
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:44,400
Speaker 1: They only did CBD folks. That's why you can get

937
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:46,719
Speaker 1: that at the store. So whether we can get a

938
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:49,800
Speaker 1: small part of this psilocybin to get approved, like a

939
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:53,720
Speaker 1: CBD of psilocybin, like how far or what is it taking?

940
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:58,840
Speaker 1: What's messing it up? Where's that brain of the government going, No, no, no,

941
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 1: what's that hesitation? It'll never be legal? No no, I

942
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 1: mean parts of Oakland it is parts of No. No, no,

943
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 1: it's wrong. Um, it is decriminalized, which means they'll still

944
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:12,360
Speaker 1: bust you for it. They just won't the cops. The

945
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 1: government's not going to spend any money on busting you

946
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 1: for it. Um. But that doesn't give an actual model

947
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:20,719
Speaker 1: where you can have an industry where you can make

948
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:22,880
Speaker 1: money off it. That's that's that's why they do it

949
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:24,919
Speaker 1: this way because there's too much money to be made

950
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:30,960
Speaker 1: by pharmaceutical companies still, And I say that, and I

951
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 1: own part of a pharmaceutical company with Mike Tyson Daniel Carcio,

952
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 1: very small percentage, but um so I'm I know obviously

953
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:41,759
Speaker 1: that was a business deal, so don't hate me for that.

954
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 1: But at the same time, that's the truth where it's

955
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 1: never gonna be legal, and if it is, it's going

956
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 1: to take forever. Because all these companies, whether good or bad,

957
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:55,759
Speaker 1: you know, they're they're psychedelic companies. They're not bad people,

958
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:57,959
Speaker 1: they're damaged people. People are people. Not all these people

959
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:01,279
Speaker 1: are healed just because they're in a ushroom company. Um,

960
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:04,839
Speaker 1: you know, there's I'm trying to take a step out

961
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 1: of the industry because it's gross, you know, Like you

962
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 1: go to a conference and you get fucking venture capital

963
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:12,399
Speaker 1: dudes doing blow in the bathroom and I'm like, God,

964
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:13,920
Speaker 1: there's a bar. I'm like, why the fuck are we

965
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 1: serving alcohol here? Dude? Like I know the owners of

966
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 1: the of the conferences, and I'm like, they're my friends,

967
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:20,480
Speaker 1: and I'm like, what are you doing? Why is there

968
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:23,759
Speaker 1: multiple bars on property? Like this is stupid because it's

969
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 1: just not the space you need to be in. But

970
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 1: I'm a purist, you know, like I have to deal

971
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 1: with all this shit that I see and going on

972
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 1: in an industry. But commercialization and the abuse and the

973
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:38,840
Speaker 1: it's it's so it's brought about with this air of

974
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 1: the enlightenment of everyone. I'm like, no, no, you're going

975
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 1: through the enlightenment. It's it's colonialization, you know, five point

976
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:49,320
Speaker 1: zero without the violence. I know this because I'm you know,

977
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:51,880
Speaker 1: over ten percent Native, and I see these native cultures,

978
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 1: people that are like real shaman that I'm friends with,

979
00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 1: you know, fuel exploited and they do it. They can

980
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:00,120
Speaker 1: they can sit up there and talk about it and

981
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:01,759
Speaker 1: bring it up because they're not gonna they're not gonna

982
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:04,719
Speaker 1: pull any punches. Like I watched a group of shamans

983
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 1: eat a bunch of tech people alive on stage in

984
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:10,680
Speaker 1: the most kindest way, putting in a check, and I

985
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 1: was like, this was so much fun to watch. It's

986
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:14,279
Speaker 1: the first thing I've seen at the conference. Um. But

987
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:17,200
Speaker 1: so it's it's just it's an industry with people who

988
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 1: are all afflicted with the human condition. How wirried are

989
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:24,359
Speaker 1: you about the bastardization of the plant. I mean when

990
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:26,160
Speaker 1: I say the plant, I mean I mean cannabis. I

991
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:29,759
Speaker 1: think that silas. I'm sorry, I'm talking about pelosipin. I

992
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 1: think that cannabis. Yeah, because I'm thinking, you know, cannabis

993
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 1: in sorts. I think a lot of people kind of

994
00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:39,880
Speaker 1: going into it UM for the homeopathic you know medicine,

995
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 1: the alternative medicine, the plant medicine aspect of it because

996
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:46,920
Speaker 1: of these UM you know, UM an alternative way to

997
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:48,840
Speaker 1: heal yourself. But then when it comes down to it,

998
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:53,920
Speaker 1: so many companies are working with UM, you know, pesticides

999
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:56,840
Speaker 1: and chemicals and so many things for you know, antimicrobulan,

1000
00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 1: anti about viral properties and all these different things. And

1001
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 1: now you're smoking chemicals. So you know what I'm afraid

1002
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 1: of is, you know, turning wheat into white bread because

1003
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:08,879
Speaker 1: it started as a plant and now it's a process food,

1004
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:12,400
Speaker 1: you know. And I I err on the side of

1005
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 1: health and wellness and homeopathic you know, plant medicine, and

1006
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:18,479
Speaker 1: I'm worried that that's going to happen to mushrooms also.

1007
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 1: Of course, so humans do UM. But they're gonna say

1008
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:27,239
Speaker 1: that it's so funny. More, I was gonna say that

1009
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:29,520
Speaker 1: that's something like business. Yeah. Yeah, But the thing is

1010
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:34,000
Speaker 1: they are an intelligent cannabis. I'm not saying cannabis isn't intelligent.

1011
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 1: It has its own source, you know, energy and everything.

1012
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:42,080
Speaker 1: But mushrooms are the driver. That's where we come from.

1013
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:45,880
Speaker 1: That's how this planet was pollinated, was with bacteria and

1014
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 1: fungus and the four elements of life that came on

1015
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 1: an asteroid. Where that asteroid came from who knows, um,

1016
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:53,799
Speaker 1: but it came hurling through space and then pollinated this Earth.

1017
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:59,520
Speaker 1: And that's how long pants pants premia is how that's

1018
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:02,880
Speaker 1: that's the theoretical idea of what I just explained. Um,

1019
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 1: you know, then you have the stone ape theory. How

1020
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:08,239
Speaker 1: our minds have evolved so quickly over such a short

1021
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:12,759
Speaker 1: amount of time, doubled in size. Monkeys eating mushrooms. Us,

1022
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:19,880
Speaker 1: he's eating mushrooms, which totally makes sense. Evolution be this

1023
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:23,880
Speaker 1: is new, please educate. So essentially, because the forests were

1024
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:26,080
Speaker 1: giving way and turning into grasslands, a lot of the

1025
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:28,719
Speaker 1: monkeys that lived in trees started coming out of the

1026
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:32,320
Speaker 1: trees and they started experimenting with food sources on the ground,

1027
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:36,719
Speaker 1: and a lot of there's an abundance of mushrooms that

1028
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:40,400
Speaker 1: grow around trees. So they theorized that the monkeys started

1029
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:43,920
Speaker 1: eating the psilocybin and that structurally changed the way that

1030
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 1: their brain operated in the way they viewed the world

1031
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 1: and allowed them to turn into what became modern day

1032
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:54,239
Speaker 1: Homo sapiens. We'll see that they the lower hominids, the

1033
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:58,280
Speaker 1: monkey people. They had to follow around these big animals.

1034
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:00,200
Speaker 1: They didn't know how to kill them yet, so they

1035
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 1: would fall them around because wherever they would, you know,

1036
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:06,439
Speaker 1: they would graze, it would stir up bugs and they'd find,

1037
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:09,279
Speaker 1: you know, things to eat. Um. And then also you know,

1038
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:12,960
Speaker 1: once there their cow patties, their poop, that's where where

1039
00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:17,440
Speaker 1: psilocybin cubenses grows out of. So it's like, h and

1040
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:20,239
Speaker 1: then why are these things producing a chemical? Some say

1041
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:24,239
Speaker 1: it's a defensive chemical makes us trip out, Um, if

1042
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:27,839
Speaker 1: you eat it. I think it's no. It produces psilocybin

1043
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 1: for our benefit, to help us, because fungus is what

1044
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 1: we come from. If you ever eat mushrooms with a dog,

1045
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:36,919
Speaker 1: you're really fucking connected and you're just like, oh my god,

1046
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:40,480
Speaker 1: there you know, we eat mushrooms with your dogs. Yeah,

1047
00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:43,960
Speaker 1: just like just give your dog mushoms. Yeah, mushrooms. No,

1048
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 1: I mushrooms with my buddy, my horn gave your dog mushrooms? Yeah,

1049
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:53,719
Speaker 1: um yeah, look at you give them one of your

1050
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:59,000
Speaker 1: gummies or no, Teddy, no, no, this is what you do.

1051
00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:03,120
Speaker 1: You give them, You give and the because they are

1052
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:05,640
Speaker 1: from the same thing we're made from their back, the

1053
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 1: fungus and bacteria. That's that's how did your dog respond?

1054
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:12,719
Speaker 1: Let's let's start there. Lets it wasn't it was. It

1055
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:16,479
Speaker 1: was my buddy, my buddy dog, his dog, Rupert, my lawyer.

1056
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:20,160
Speaker 1: That's not my lawyer. Um, your lawyer's dog. Yeah. And

1057
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 1: we're sitting there. We just ate mushrooms with him. If

1058
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:23,440
Speaker 1: that was the first dog I read him, I got

1059
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:24,800
Speaker 1: to give him to my brother's dog and sit with

1060
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:26,720
Speaker 1: him because I always baby sit him. He's this giant

1061
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:29,799
Speaker 1: Connor president cacenario. Does your brother know you gave his dog?

1062
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:36,360
Speaker 1: My brother would not. He wouldn't care because his dogments

1063
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 1: so him. Yeah. And so you know, to feel the

1064
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:45,560
Speaker 1: connection with a dog when you're both on mushrooms, it's enlightening.

1065
00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:48,359
Speaker 1: We were like, oh shit, this I thought this would happen,

1066
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:51,320
Speaker 1: and then it happened, and I was like, oh fuck,

1067
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:54,759
Speaker 1: this is really intense. How much did you give him?

1068
00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:58,480
Speaker 1: I think we have my graham what Yeah, when we

1069
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:00,880
Speaker 1: ate like like one gummy no no, no, no, no,

1070
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:03,120
Speaker 1: like ten gummies? Oh my god. Yeah yeah, and we

1071
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:05,960
Speaker 1: ate like oh oh a couple of grams of mushrooms.

1072
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:08,000
Speaker 1: And we've been worked out and came home, hung out

1073
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:10,200
Speaker 1: with him, took them for a walk, and you know

1074
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 1: how it was fine, was just amazing. Yeah, Ruper is

1075
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:16,400
Speaker 1: the best dog ever? Was he playing talked to? I

1076
00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:20,839
Speaker 1: felt like he was looking at me with his little

1077
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:22,839
Speaker 1: expression in his eyes, and I was like, oh my god,

1078
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:24,960
Speaker 1: You're so fucking adorable. He's like if I just had

1079
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:28,839
Speaker 1: a voice box, I wish my dog was. Here's what's funny.

1080
00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:32,600
Speaker 1: Jessica and I this morning were texting each other pictures

1081
00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:36,520
Speaker 1: of us and our dogs together. Literally this morning, my

1082
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:38,279
Speaker 1: dogs had been here right now, I'd be like stars,

1083
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:40,880
Speaker 1: I mean, we literally said, and then I sent her

1084
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:42,920
Speaker 1: a picture of my dog Igo. This is Teddy watching

1085
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:46,279
Speaker 1: me take a shower. Everything. He's protecting us from the

1086
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:50,600
Speaker 1: shower goblins. Obviously, we literally were doing dog pictures together,

1087
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:53,320
Speaker 1: and now we're gonna have to do mushroom pictures with

1088
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:55,799
Speaker 1: our dogs. This is our dog on mushrooms. I want

1089
00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:58,320
Speaker 1: to blog with your dog telling you it was it

1090
00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:00,960
Speaker 1: was I thought, mouth kisses, we're bonding with your dog.

1091
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:04,080
Speaker 1: I know now that that's actually that's how you share

1092
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:07,120
Speaker 1: the same gut biome. Um. So no, I actually did

1093
00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:08,640
Speaker 1: a paper on this, that's so funny. I did an

1094
00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:11,040
Speaker 1: article about about just that, and I was saying basically

1095
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:13,200
Speaker 1: that you should kiss your your dog every day on

1096
00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 1: the nose because it keeps your dog in tune with

1097
00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:18,680
Speaker 1: what with your with your biochemistry. And they can always

1098
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:20,640
Speaker 1: stay in tune with you because they can sense you

1099
00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:23,080
Speaker 1: know from from your scent. Obviously they can sense so much.

1100
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:24,839
Speaker 1: But you kiss your dog every day on the nose

1101
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:27,040
Speaker 1: because it gives them, It keeps them in tune with

1102
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:30,960
Speaker 1: your your your the chemicals in your body to basically

1103
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:33,120
Speaker 1: tell you bought your dog, that you're stressed, that you

1104
00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:35,120
Speaker 1: are happy, that you are you know what I mean.

1105
00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:38,400
Speaker 1: So yeah, I like every day I was talking about

1106
00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:41,080
Speaker 1: eating your dog shit, this is you in the mouth,

1107
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:43,600
Speaker 1: that would change your gut biome. I was being disgusting,

1108
00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:45,680
Speaker 1: But you have a good theory. I like where your

1109
00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:51,239
Speaker 1: head's out with that A little different. Um. But you

1110
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:54,560
Speaker 1: know what are the the It's a final transfer. They

1111
00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:57,680
Speaker 1: have a final transplant where they take someone else's healthy

1112
00:55:57,760 --> 00:56:00,080
Speaker 1: gut and take it and gut I mean I it,

1113
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:02,560
Speaker 1: but and then they put it inside you which make

1114
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:06,319
Speaker 1: you healthier. Science I and your science is a little

1115
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:10,319
Speaker 1: fucking strange. Everything allays ends up with every everything alas

1116
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:12,239
Speaker 1: ends up with the butthole. I guess it always ends

1117
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:13,839
Speaker 1: up that way. We're gonna take a break real quick.

1118
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:15,600
Speaker 1: We're gonna come back. We're gonna talk some more fighting,

1119
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:18,560
Speaker 1: some more psilocybin. It's more thc. It's Cannabis Talk one

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00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:21,440
Speaker 1: oh one. Well, right back after this break, we'll be

1121
00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:24,520
Speaker 1: right back with Cannabis Talk one oh one. Please take

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00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:35,520
Speaker 1: Welcome back to Cannabis Talk one oh one. Live the

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Speaker 1: learn more. It's been a pleasure having the Commissioner of

1127
00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:53,360
Speaker 1: Fund Ian mccaull on here, and of course Mark the

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00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:56,759
Speaker 1: Shark Irwin has a big fight coming up. May thirteenth

1129
00:56:56,840 --> 00:57:00,839
Speaker 1: in South Carolina. Go watch that bare Knuckles, you some bitch,

1130
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:04,240
Speaker 1: go at it again in that small ass ring because

1131
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:07,920
Speaker 1: watching that, dude and seeing that, I cannot wait to

1132
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:11,600
Speaker 1: actually go to one and just feel that intensity because

1133
00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:14,960
Speaker 1: it literally reminds me of the let's go. Let's go then,

1134
00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:19,800
Speaker 1: and let's go. And we're in a small ass apartment bedroom,

1135
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:22,480
Speaker 1: not a bedroom in the house, like an old school

1136
00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:25,440
Speaker 1: apartment bedroom with maybe a bed on the side that

1137
00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:27,320
Speaker 1: you know. I mean, if you fall, you're gonna fall there.

1138
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:29,800
Speaker 1: And that's one rope, but you only got that small

1139
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:34,280
Speaker 1: area to fight in. Yeah, and you're just going at

1140
00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:37,000
Speaker 1: it because it's about it's just about as big as

1141
00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:39,600
Speaker 1: a piece of pie. About the ring because it's a

1142
00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:42,120
Speaker 1: little triangle thing, you know what I mean, It's about

1143
00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:44,800
Speaker 1: a Shrek piece of pie size. Did you guys remember

1144
00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:48,320
Speaker 1: during during COVID, they were having UFC fights but there

1145
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:51,000
Speaker 1: was no audience. Oh yeah, And so I loved it

1146
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:54,520
Speaker 1: because when you watch those fights you could hear everything. Yeah, well,

1147
00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:56,600
Speaker 1: these ones you hear the punches in it's like fist

1148
00:57:56,640 --> 00:57:59,320
Speaker 1: of body, That's what I'm saying. It's when there was

1149
00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:01,560
Speaker 1: no when there there's no audience. That's like the audience. Yeah,

1150
00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:03,440
Speaker 1: it like hypes everybody up and everybody's like, how's that

1151
00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:06,960
Speaker 1: energy going? But when it was silent, Oh my god,

1152
00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:11,480
Speaker 1: let me ask you, is it different mark when you're

1153
00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:16,560
Speaker 1: fighting mentally, when you're fighting with gloves and without Yeah. Absolutely.

1154
00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:20,320
Speaker 1: When bare knuckle, you can't make any mistakes. It only

1155
00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:22,760
Speaker 1: takes one shot that can end your night. So you

1156
00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:25,360
Speaker 1: have to be very calculated in everything that you do

1157
00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:27,800
Speaker 1: in boxing. Because you have big gloves that you can

1158
00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:30,600
Speaker 1: shield and block behind, and because it disperses a lot

1159
00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:34,480
Speaker 1: of the impact, the amount of risk involved is just

1160
00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:40,520
Speaker 1: not even comparable. I've been boxing, kickboxing, MMA shows and

1161
00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:43,760
Speaker 1: bare knuckle events. I've been ringside, I've been in the

1162
00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:45,800
Speaker 1: corner coaching, I've been in the locker room, I've been

1163
00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:50,240
Speaker 1: in the ring. There is it's nothing like bare knuckle

1164
00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:52,480
Speaker 1: as far as the damage that these athletes are taking.

1165
00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:55,200
Speaker 1: People are getting fucked up. I mean, even if you

1166
00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:58,480
Speaker 1: block a fucking bare knuckle up, you can break your

1167
00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:01,760
Speaker 1: fucking your arm right like literally, there goes your wrists,

1168
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:04,800
Speaker 1: Like what you you can get a technical ko because

1169
00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:06,920
Speaker 1: you broke his wrist by punching them in the wrist. Yeah,

1170
00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:11,080
Speaker 1: you don't. You have to disregard a lot of techniques

1171
00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:13,800
Speaker 1: that you would use in boxing when you're adapting a

1172
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:17,439
Speaker 1: style for a bare knuckle because it's its own sport. Yeah,

1173
00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:19,640
Speaker 1: you can't block like you can in box. It's almost

1174
00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:21,720
Speaker 1: open hand block would be the safest block, right, I mean,

1175
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:25,400
Speaker 1: that's my theory right now. I'm just imagining if I'm fighting,

1176
00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:28,680
Speaker 1: somebody might I'm an open hand blocker with trying to

1177
00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:31,880
Speaker 1: perry shots is definitely a good idea. You don't want

1178
00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:33,760
Speaker 1: to be catching shots on your arms. It's too easy

1179
00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:37,160
Speaker 1: for people to snake a punch in between your arms

1180
00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:39,560
Speaker 1: or and even if it's hitting your arms, the damage

1181
00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:42,440
Speaker 1: of a bone hitting your arm is gonna beat your

1182
00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:43,880
Speaker 1: arms up and you're not gonna be able to punch.

1183
00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:46,240
Speaker 1: So you have to use a lot more head movement,

1184
00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:49,160
Speaker 1: a lot more of footwork, and you don't want to

1185
00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:54,000
Speaker 1: engage for prolonged periods of time and training for this,

1186
00:59:54,680 --> 00:59:59,040
Speaker 1: because I've trained in people who trained in boxing. You're

1187
00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:01,360
Speaker 1: using maybe in a ten now it's a little heavier gloves,

1188
01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:03,680
Speaker 1: so it's a bigger sized pillow fight, so to speak.

1189
01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:07,240
Speaker 1: I mean it's exaggerated, but training bare knuckle. Are you

1190
01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:11,160
Speaker 1: really going bare knuckle with a sparring partner, No, it

1191
01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:13,480
Speaker 1: wouldn't be sustainable, but that's what I mean. Like, Yeah,

1192
01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:15,240
Speaker 1: we have made a lot of changes as far as

1193
01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:19,880
Speaker 1: the way that we train. The main difference from training

1194
01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:22,840
Speaker 1: for gloved boxing as opposed to bare knuckle is we

1195
01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:28,240
Speaker 1: actually stopped training with boxers primarily when we were sparring,

1196
01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:31,840
Speaker 1: and we started working mostly with MMA fighters because the

1197
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:33,600
Speaker 1: rule set is a little bit different and it allows

1198
01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:36,959
Speaker 1: for a lot more clinching and grappling and holding and hitting,

1199
01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:39,360
Speaker 1: and because of the fact that most of the fighters

1200
01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:41,840
Speaker 1: that come over to bare knuckle are actually mixed martial

1201
01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:45,440
Speaker 1: artists and knob boxers and MMA fighters throw their punches

1202
01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:48,600
Speaker 1: and behave differently than boxers do. So when I did

1203
01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:51,120
Speaker 1: make the jump from boxing to bare knuckle, one of

1204
01:00:51,160 --> 01:00:53,080
Speaker 1: the first things I did was bring Ian on board

1205
01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:57,800
Speaker 1: to help with my clinch game and my inside fighting,

1206
01:00:57,840 --> 01:01:01,040
Speaker 1: my dirty boxing, so we could start to developing systems

1207
01:01:01,160 --> 01:01:04,440
Speaker 1: that we're gonna be most advantageous for this new sport

1208
01:01:04,560 --> 01:01:07,320
Speaker 1: because out here in the US it's only been legal

1209
01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:10,280
Speaker 1: since twenty eighteen. It's brand new UM and it's still

1210
01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:13,160
Speaker 1: only legal in about ten states. So we're literally learning,

1211
01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:15,640
Speaker 1: like on the fly, what techniques are going to work

1212
01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:17,960
Speaker 1: and what aren't you know, as we're developing this new

1213
01:01:18,040 --> 01:01:20,840
Speaker 1: system of fighting in this new sport, whereas in the

1214
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:22,920
Speaker 1: UK they've been doing it you know for a lot

1215
01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:27,439
Speaker 1: longer in the underground as well as sanctioned fights. Fight club. Yeah,

1216
01:01:27,480 --> 01:01:29,800
Speaker 1: so it's exciting to be at the forefront like what

1217
01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:31,560
Speaker 1: it is. It's like the old fight club movies, right,

1218
01:01:31,600 --> 01:01:34,440
Speaker 1: I mean literally, we're just we're putting a system behind it,

1219
01:01:34,680 --> 01:01:37,400
Speaker 1: you know, like I'm having him grapple with no punches.

1220
01:01:37,720 --> 01:01:40,880
Speaker 1: So what are the rules because you said there's no takedown, Yeah,

1221
01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:43,200
Speaker 1: so it's boxing punches from the waist up on the

1222
01:01:43,280 --> 01:01:46,440
Speaker 1: front side, no gloves, and you are allowed to clinch

1223
01:01:46,520 --> 01:01:48,160
Speaker 1: and punch, which is one of the primaries when you

1224
01:01:48,200 --> 01:01:50,040
Speaker 1: say clinch. Can I get you in a headlock? Clinch?

1225
01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:54,520
Speaker 1: What does a clinch? Clinch? Tylum, underhooks, overhooks, any type

1226
01:01:54,560 --> 01:01:56,800
Speaker 1: of you can hold with one hand or arm and

1227
01:01:56,880 --> 01:01:59,000
Speaker 1: punch with the other. So fighting in the clinch is

1228
01:01:59,040 --> 01:02:01,800
Speaker 1: allowed so long as you're punching, whereas in boxing, if

1229
01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:04,320
Speaker 1: you're holding people, they're gonna look to break you. And

1230
01:02:04,760 --> 01:02:06,640
Speaker 1: you pitalized for clinching and then trying to take down

1231
01:02:06,640 --> 01:02:08,520
Speaker 1: because a lot of people that are natural reactions. And

1232
01:02:08,600 --> 01:02:11,040
Speaker 1: there's no takedowns. There's no kicks, there's no elbows, there's

1233
01:02:11,080 --> 01:02:14,160
Speaker 1: no needs, there's no submissions. It's just punches. You can grapple,

1234
01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:19,120
Speaker 1: and you can punch in these grappling exchanges. It's just yeah,

1235
01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:21,720
Speaker 1: it's it's And I watched one of the most beautiful

1236
01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:24,440
Speaker 1: sets of violence I've ever seen in my life happened

1237
01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:29,240
Speaker 1: down in Biloxi. It was Laurent versus Rico. H Yeah,

1238
01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:35,560
Speaker 1: Rico Franco versus Laurenti Nelson, these guys, you know, Rico

1239
01:02:35,680 --> 01:02:39,920
Speaker 1: had this very proper, beautiful British boxing and then Laurent

1240
01:02:40,120 --> 01:02:43,760
Speaker 1: had this wild, you know, crazy South African guy sort

1241
01:02:43,800 --> 01:02:48,840
Speaker 1: of fighter muy tai. He's done left way, he's done everything,

1242
01:02:49,000 --> 01:02:53,440
Speaker 1: and he has a more of a brawler style. But

1243
01:02:53,600 --> 01:02:56,160
Speaker 1: it was beautiful. It was really pretty to see the

1244
01:02:56,200 --> 01:02:57,880
Speaker 1: way he kind of waves into the ropes on these

1245
01:02:57,920 --> 01:03:00,760
Speaker 1: shots and has a very adaptive bare knuckle. It was

1246
01:03:00,800 --> 01:03:04,520
Speaker 1: it was just watching this violence was amazing. And having Marco, Dude,

1247
01:03:04,520 --> 01:03:06,520
Speaker 1: I've never seen you act like that, like you acted

1248
01:03:06,560 --> 01:03:08,360
Speaker 1: like a little kid. I was like, yeah, I got excited.

1249
01:03:08,360 --> 01:03:10,160
Speaker 1: It's all right, you know. And then like a week later,

1250
01:03:11,480 --> 01:03:13,320
Speaker 1: two weeks later, wherever it was, we go to the

1251
01:03:13,480 --> 01:03:18,080
Speaker 1: UFC event. It was Dominic Cruise versus cheet zilvera two people.

1252
01:03:18,120 --> 01:03:21,000
Speaker 1: I've you know, I've fought Dominic, I've trained with Cheeto,

1253
01:03:21,160 --> 01:03:25,320
Speaker 1: like I love both these guys for a fight. And

1254
01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:28,200
Speaker 1: we we went there and I was bored because the

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01:03:28,280 --> 01:03:30,560
Speaker 1: excitement wasn't there, right, it wasn't there anymore. It was like, shit,

1256
01:03:30,720 --> 01:03:35,040
Speaker 1: I'm sure we did take too much Acidum, horrible idea.

1257
01:03:37,680 --> 01:03:39,280
Speaker 1: I was testing Dane. I was like, why is the

1258
01:03:39,360 --> 01:03:41,280
Speaker 1: ac out here? Bro? What the fuck? Like, not like

1259
01:03:41,320 --> 01:03:43,720
Speaker 1: he's gonna do anything, but I never I had to

1260
01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:46,720
Speaker 1: just give him shit. Um, you're a bench sucks. Yeah right.

1261
01:03:46,800 --> 01:03:50,600
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm sweating right now. It's Horde that

1262
01:03:50,680 --> 01:03:54,840
Speaker 1: San Diego Sports Arena's dog. And my dad complained the

1263
01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:57,400
Speaker 1: whole time. He's like, you're going there's like fuck that place.

1264
01:03:57,480 --> 01:03:59,600
Speaker 1: You fought there twice and just went on this random

1265
01:03:59,680 --> 01:04:01,200
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't care, man, I know, and

1266
01:04:01,240 --> 01:04:02,560
Speaker 1: I got there. I just want to go support, and

1267
01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:05,400
Speaker 1: I was like, this place sucks and't that worse when

1268
01:04:05,400 --> 01:04:06,760
Speaker 1: you go to a venue where like, oh my god,

1269
01:04:06,840 --> 01:04:09,280
Speaker 1: this place is just the worst. It was just bad.

1270
01:04:09,400 --> 01:04:12,640
Speaker 1: To your point, I think bare Knuckle is the new MM.

1271
01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:15,440
Speaker 1: It is so exciting. Yeah, that's where were after now.

1272
01:04:15,560 --> 01:04:17,600
Speaker 1: And not only are you saying that, I pause and

1273
01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:19,840
Speaker 1: go and I give this like look to you, because

1274
01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:23,080
Speaker 1: after watching for the first time that I've seen you know,

1275
01:04:23,240 --> 01:04:25,840
Speaker 1: it takes me back when I watched it, to those

1276
01:04:25,920 --> 01:04:29,280
Speaker 1: early days of watching Kimbo Slice videos come out of Florida,

1277
01:04:29,400 --> 01:04:31,480
Speaker 1: when you're seeing this guy and then he goes to

1278
01:04:31,640 --> 01:04:34,080
Speaker 1: UFC and gets beat up by real grapplers, this and that,

1279
01:04:34,480 --> 01:04:37,040
Speaker 1: but you just go fucking bare knuckle in a small

1280
01:04:37,120 --> 01:04:40,240
Speaker 1: little spot. Let's see what you got and who's got power?

1281
01:04:40,400 --> 01:04:42,880
Speaker 1: Pure boxing too, it's not someone having to focus on

1282
01:04:42,920 --> 01:04:45,040
Speaker 1: a bunch of shit. It's guys who can have some

1283
01:04:45,320 --> 01:04:47,800
Speaker 1: singular focus. Oh and you see more art like when

1284
01:04:47,800 --> 01:04:49,840
Speaker 1: I watched it, I see more art with more boxing

1285
01:04:49,920 --> 01:04:52,240
Speaker 1: and more like because you have to be so calculated

1286
01:04:52,760 --> 01:04:55,280
Speaker 1: and I almost just don't want to see a heavyweight.

1287
01:04:55,360 --> 01:04:57,200
Speaker 1: Is there a heavyweight division in it? Because it's gonna

1288
01:04:57,200 --> 01:04:59,920
Speaker 1: be that like one two, it's one punch in your

1289
01:05:00,280 --> 01:05:02,840
Speaker 1: Tom Hardy just got fucking flattened. That's what I mean.

1290
01:05:02,920 --> 01:05:04,680
Speaker 1: It's not like a fight that's gonna last. When you

1291
01:05:04,720 --> 01:05:06,640
Speaker 1: sit three round three minutes. I'm like, how are we

1292
01:05:06,720 --> 01:05:09,920
Speaker 1: gonna go three minutes? Uh? Which the big guy, Oh,

1293
01:05:10,240 --> 01:05:12,560
Speaker 1: Mike Richman, No, no, no, Mike Richman got flattened too.

1294
01:05:12,640 --> 01:05:14,600
Speaker 1: The big black guy from UFC, A big football player. Oh,

1295
01:05:14,640 --> 01:05:17,720
Speaker 1: Greg Hardy, Greg Hardy, Yeah, he got knocked out by

1296
01:05:17,760 --> 01:05:21,000
Speaker 1: like a bouncer. Yeah. Bro, And like and he's a big, giant,

1297
01:05:21,200 --> 01:05:25,800
Speaker 1: super ast six nine fucking he's so big. Remember fighting

1298
01:05:25,800 --> 01:05:27,520
Speaker 1: with this guy named Marcus Royster who was like that

1299
01:05:27,640 --> 01:05:32,160
Speaker 1: big gorilla. Yeah, we had h yeah, he got, he

1300
01:05:32,280 --> 01:05:35,400
Speaker 1: got flatlined, he got. It was really really bad. It's

1301
01:05:35,440 --> 01:05:37,760
Speaker 1: just amazing when you see you guys get in this

1302
01:05:37,880 --> 01:05:41,440
Speaker 1: and I agree, it's like the new extended uh triple

1303
01:05:41,720 --> 01:05:45,360
Speaker 1: x UFC style. Like it's just the next level of excitement,

1304
01:05:45,520 --> 01:05:47,840
Speaker 1: entertainment and bare knuckle and porn stars. We got paired

1305
01:05:47,880 --> 01:05:49,920
Speaker 1: up with him. Now it's your turn, you know. We

1306
01:05:50,040 --> 01:05:51,280
Speaker 1: were just like it's like, oh, yeah, you got, like

1307
01:05:51,280 --> 01:05:54,520
Speaker 1: you're basically doing porno. You're like what people it's called

1308
01:05:54,600 --> 01:05:56,840
Speaker 1: raw knuckles, but hand they hated the MMA at the beginning.

1309
01:05:57,200 --> 01:06:02,960
Speaker 1: Lok and double Knuckle a lot of parallels. Yeah, I

1310
01:06:03,080 --> 01:06:05,600
Speaker 1: just got the text back from Frank Shamrock, by the way,

1311
01:06:05,640 --> 01:06:07,080
Speaker 1: as I sent him a picture of us, and he

1312
01:06:07,200 --> 01:06:09,800
Speaker 1: sends three hearts to all of you guys, and and so,

1313
01:06:10,440 --> 01:06:13,240
Speaker 1: you know, love love all. He just tried to get

1314
01:06:13,280 --> 01:06:15,080
Speaker 1: me to fight Floyd May with her a while back.

1315
01:06:15,400 --> 01:06:17,200
Speaker 1: Really yeah, and he's like, hey, would you come out

1316
01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:19,320
Speaker 1: of retirement. I was like, no, you should, and then

1317
01:06:19,360 --> 01:06:21,120
Speaker 1: he goes he goes to fight Floyd May there and

1318
01:06:21,120 --> 01:06:24,520
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, yeah, sure, get the back that

1319
01:06:24,600 --> 01:06:26,320
Speaker 1: paper player. And we were working on the deal and

1320
01:06:26,360 --> 01:06:29,680
Speaker 1: it fell through obvious. But speaking of Cheeta Vera, I

1321
01:06:29,800 --> 01:06:31,640
Speaker 1: went to go train for it for like a week

1322
01:06:32,160 --> 01:06:33,880
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, I fucking feel good. You know.

1323
01:06:34,240 --> 01:06:36,080
Speaker 1: By the end of the week, I went into Ruka

1324
01:06:36,160 --> 01:06:38,760
Speaker 1: with Cheeto and I figured I'm gonna jump right in

1325
01:06:38,800 --> 01:06:40,520
Speaker 1: the deepend again. Of course, so if I'm gonna start

1326
01:06:40,520 --> 01:06:44,720
Speaker 1: training to fight Floyd in a few months. And that

1327
01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:48,120
Speaker 1: day sparring, Cheeta almost knocked me out. It was just

1328
01:06:48,320 --> 01:06:50,439
Speaker 1: like he just zapping. I was like, oh, go shit,

1329
01:06:50,520 --> 01:06:52,680
Speaker 1: you okay? And I was like, oh no, I was like,

1330
01:06:52,760 --> 01:06:54,560
Speaker 1: I don't want to be here. It's like, what the fuck?

1331
01:06:54,960 --> 01:06:56,760
Speaker 1: Look in my head, I was like no, no, no.

1332
01:06:58,360 --> 01:07:00,680
Speaker 1: Prill was like, get the fuck out here. I've done man,

1333
01:07:00,720 --> 01:07:02,280
Speaker 1: I've been saying the last like five years. I'm not

1334
01:07:02,360 --> 01:07:04,520
Speaker 1: a fighter anymore. And then it took me a few

1335
01:07:04,560 --> 01:07:06,200
Speaker 1: million dollars on the table to go like, oh, I'm

1336
01:07:06,200 --> 01:07:07,600
Speaker 1: gonna try. I'll go try it. Then you gotta hit

1337
01:07:07,600 --> 01:07:09,680
Speaker 1: a few more times. Wait, it was one solid shot.

1338
01:07:09,760 --> 01:07:11,720
Speaker 1: She does you know? We're playing around, fucking around? I

1339
01:07:11,760 --> 01:07:13,480
Speaker 1: think I was. I was going, you know, going a

1340
01:07:13,520 --> 01:07:16,320
Speaker 1: little hard because I've had shit to prove um because

1341
01:07:16,320 --> 01:07:17,400
Speaker 1: I used to beat the ship of the cheat that

1342
01:07:17,480 --> 01:07:19,160
Speaker 1: you know a long time. I'm gonna still show you

1343
01:07:19,240 --> 01:07:21,640
Speaker 1: a little young whip and he's flapping. I was like, look,

1344
01:07:21,680 --> 01:07:23,200
Speaker 1: my knees buckled and I was like, whoa, I got

1345
01:07:23,240 --> 01:07:25,360
Speaker 1: the stinky leg and I was like, yeah, I don't

1346
01:07:25,360 --> 01:07:26,880
Speaker 1: want to do this. My son hit me in the

1347
01:07:26,960 --> 01:07:30,240
Speaker 1: head with a pillow, like one of the rehab type pillows.

1348
01:07:30,520 --> 01:07:32,680
Speaker 1: It hit me so hard. My equilibrium was like, waiting,

1349
01:07:32,920 --> 01:07:34,720
Speaker 1: how did I used to get punched? How did I

1350
01:07:34,880 --> 01:07:37,120
Speaker 1: used to spark? Oh? My god, I'm like and I

1351
01:07:37,200 --> 01:07:40,080
Speaker 1: took my son's head. Seriously, quit hitting me in the

1352
01:07:40,120 --> 01:07:43,240
Speaker 1: head with shit like it's just it's no fun no more.

1353
01:07:43,480 --> 01:07:45,760
Speaker 1: You get a certain age, it's not fun. Well, I

1354
01:07:45,840 --> 01:07:48,120
Speaker 1: think that's one of the things that makes it so impressive, right,

1355
01:07:48,240 --> 01:07:50,760
Speaker 1: is because you can't do it forever. You know, the

1356
01:07:50,880 --> 01:07:53,320
Speaker 1: toll that it takes on your body, the commitment that

1357
01:07:53,440 --> 01:07:55,400
Speaker 1: it takes to put your body through that abuse on

1358
01:07:55,480 --> 01:07:58,640
Speaker 1: a regular basis is not sustainable for the long term.

1359
01:07:58,680 --> 01:08:00,800
Speaker 1: And we know what it does people mental health and

1360
01:08:01,240 --> 01:08:03,720
Speaker 1: physical health and everything else. And that's why it's so

1361
01:08:03,800 --> 01:08:07,840
Speaker 1: important that we get brands like cannabis brands and psilocybin

1362
01:08:07,920 --> 01:08:10,560
Speaker 1: brands on board so the athletes are able to get

1363
01:08:10,600 --> 01:08:14,000
Speaker 1: the benefit of using these products because we so sorely

1364
01:08:14,080 --> 01:08:16,160
Speaker 1: needed and they weren't using them before. Let's just face it,

1365
01:08:16,240 --> 01:08:19,519
Speaker 1: look at those earthly fights. They were sitting here drinking liquor.

1366
01:08:19,760 --> 01:08:24,320
Speaker 1: And that was the thing he abbags back in the day,

1367
01:08:24,439 --> 01:08:26,800
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like you remember that ship

1368
01:08:26,960 --> 01:08:30,320
Speaker 1: back then, here's the original HB bad Boy beating people

1369
01:08:30,400 --> 01:08:32,920
Speaker 1: up on main street. Dude, And what did you do

1370
01:08:33,040 --> 01:08:35,439
Speaker 1: for recovery? A little bottle of jack? And just see

1371
01:08:35,479 --> 01:08:38,439
Speaker 1: what I mean, let's go for those who know the history.

1372
01:08:38,479 --> 01:08:41,000
Speaker 1: He's like, I remember before UFC, before Dana White even

1373
01:08:41,000 --> 01:08:42,559
Speaker 1: bought it, you know what I mean. I remember Tito

1374
01:08:42,640 --> 01:08:44,600
Speaker 1: Ortis bringing him to Burbank and I met him at

1375
01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:47,639
Speaker 1: a BJ's like, oh, look who just bought it. I'm like, damn, Tito,

1376
01:08:47,680 --> 01:08:49,240
Speaker 1: I can't believe you're about to fight and do all

1377
01:08:49,280 --> 01:08:51,720
Speaker 1: these great things. And seeing it just evolve and now

1378
01:08:51,840 --> 01:08:54,679
Speaker 1: this new evolve. I hope it gets legal in California

1379
01:08:54,720 --> 01:08:57,720
Speaker 1: because the excitement, like you said, watching a fight, it's

1380
01:08:57,800 --> 01:09:01,280
Speaker 1: just entertainment. It's almost most equivalent to me when I

1381
01:09:01,400 --> 01:09:04,120
Speaker 1: watched the video of the feeling I used to get

1382
01:09:04,200 --> 01:09:07,120
Speaker 1: when I watched a Mike Tyson fight. Like you watched

1383
01:09:07,200 --> 01:09:10,320
Speaker 1: Mike Tyson fight, you were excited, you were knowing it

1384
01:09:10,439 --> 01:09:12,360
Speaker 1: was gonna be a knockout, you knew it was gonna

1385
01:09:12,400 --> 01:09:15,400
Speaker 1: be fucking brawl. And when I watched you fight, and

1386
01:09:15,479 --> 01:09:18,960
Speaker 1: I watched a couple clips of this bare knuckle, that's

1387
01:09:19,000 --> 01:09:21,680
Speaker 1: where it took me mentally and emotionally. So for those

1388
01:09:21,720 --> 01:09:23,160
Speaker 1: who haven't seen it, and if you want to go

1389
01:09:23,320 --> 01:09:25,479
Speaker 1: check this guy out in May and South Carolina. If

1390
01:09:25,479 --> 01:09:28,120
Speaker 1: I'm not mistaken, go to that one or find him

1391
01:09:28,120 --> 01:09:29,920
Speaker 1: online and do that. We'd like to do the high

1392
01:09:29,960 --> 01:09:32,280
Speaker 1: five with everybody that's here on the show. I want

1393
01:09:32,320 --> 01:09:35,080
Speaker 1: to ask you guys these questions. Mark you'll go first,

1394
01:09:35,120 --> 01:09:37,560
Speaker 1: and then Ian you'll answer the same question right after it.

1395
01:09:37,880 --> 01:09:39,360
Speaker 1: And it's how old are you the first time you

1396
01:09:39,439 --> 01:09:42,360
Speaker 1: smoked cannabis? And where did you get it from? I

1397
01:09:42,520 --> 01:09:44,960
Speaker 1: was fifteen years old when I started smoking pot, and

1398
01:09:45,040 --> 01:09:47,519
Speaker 1: I probably got it from some kids at school. Where

1399
01:09:47,600 --> 01:09:51,559
Speaker 1: what's school? Capo Valley High School? Go ahead, now, Capo,

1400
01:09:51,760 --> 01:09:54,280
Speaker 1: go ahead? What about you? In Oh? I was eight

1401
01:09:54,360 --> 01:09:57,759
Speaker 1: years old? Eight. I just came over from private school

1402
01:09:57,800 --> 01:10:05,360
Speaker 1: because you know, Dana point hello, Um, you know we

1403
01:10:06,200 --> 01:10:07,839
Speaker 1: I got kicked out of a lot of private schools.

1404
01:10:07,960 --> 01:10:09,920
Speaker 1: Um so to my brother and what school was it

1405
01:10:09,960 --> 01:10:14,800
Speaker 1: out there? Uh? This time? I came home from Saint Catherine's. Yeah,

1406
01:10:16,439 --> 01:10:20,439
Speaker 1: right on pH fucking places so nice, um but literally

1407
01:10:20,600 --> 01:10:26,200
Speaker 1: overlook pch on the good beach, um, And yeah, I

1408
01:10:26,280 --> 01:10:28,240
Speaker 1: came home. My brother was smoking on the side yard.

1409
01:10:28,439 --> 01:10:30,040
Speaker 1: And you know, your older brother at this point is

1410
01:10:30,040 --> 01:10:32,559
Speaker 1: the coolest person you know in life. So I was like, okay,

1411
01:10:32,960 --> 01:10:34,240
Speaker 1: you're doing I was like, what are you doing? He

1412
01:10:34,240 --> 01:10:36,599
Speaker 1: goes smoking. I was like smoking. What he said weed?

1413
01:10:36,840 --> 01:10:39,760
Speaker 1: I was like, hmm, okay, I don't know what that is,

1414
01:10:39,880 --> 01:10:42,160
Speaker 1: but like, cool, Uh where'd you get it? And he

1415
01:10:42,200 --> 01:10:45,439
Speaker 1: goes a stole from dad? Yeah. Oh, like the two

1416
01:10:45,520 --> 01:10:48,360
Speaker 1: coolest people that I know ever in my life are

1417
01:10:48,439 --> 01:10:51,000
Speaker 1: doing this and this sounds like a fucking great idea.

1418
01:10:51,120 --> 01:10:53,880
Speaker 1: How about me too? Yeah, so I started smoking. Um,

1419
01:10:54,960 --> 01:10:56,880
Speaker 1: what was your second question? Well, that was it the first.

1420
01:10:57,000 --> 01:10:59,160
Speaker 1: You know, what's funny is that's for I started at

1421
01:10:59,200 --> 01:11:03,360
Speaker 1: six with an older brother as well. Yeah, I was six.

1422
01:11:04,160 --> 01:11:06,880
Speaker 1: My eldest brother started. Because my eldest brothers my half brother.

1423
01:11:06,920 --> 01:11:08,800
Speaker 1: My mom grew up in the hood. My dad married

1424
01:11:08,840 --> 01:11:12,160
Speaker 1: the help. That's why I'm a half brown. Um. But

1425
01:11:12,240 --> 01:11:13,760
Speaker 1: it's always a good thing, right, you know, Yeah, it's

1426
01:11:13,760 --> 01:11:17,640
Speaker 1: a good mix. Um. But my eldest brother smoked for

1427
01:11:17,680 --> 01:11:19,559
Speaker 1: the first time when he was seven, and my cousins

1428
01:11:19,680 --> 01:11:23,439
Speaker 1: laced it was Sherm. My very first time was late Sherm.

1429
01:11:23,760 --> 01:11:27,640
Speaker 1: Is he okay now, oh no, no, something he's a

1430
01:11:27,960 --> 01:11:31,880
Speaker 1: mess up that day. Dude, you just hit the equilibrium

1431
01:11:32,000 --> 01:11:33,680
Speaker 1: so hard at seven years old, and you put some

1432
01:11:33,760 --> 01:11:36,640
Speaker 1: Sherman there. I mean, come on, question number two of

1433
01:11:36,680 --> 01:11:38,519
Speaker 1: the High five E and I respect your family more

1434
01:11:38,520 --> 01:11:41,479
Speaker 1: and more after each question. No wonder why you're such

1435
01:11:41,520 --> 01:11:44,240
Speaker 1: a Darrylic How old you? What's your favorite way to

1436
01:11:44,439 --> 01:11:49,360
Speaker 1: use cannabis? Uh? Smoking a joint? Yeah, I love smoking joints.

1437
01:11:49,439 --> 01:11:52,519
Speaker 1: I don't know. There's something very friends yea, or like

1438
01:11:52,640 --> 01:11:55,720
Speaker 1: smoking a King palm. I'm they've I was smoking the

1439
01:11:55,800 --> 01:11:57,760
Speaker 1: King Palm on the cover at La Weekly, which is

1440
01:11:57,840 --> 01:12:01,240
Speaker 1: sixteen million copies. Um. I still I still don't have one.

1441
01:12:01,280 --> 01:12:03,640
Speaker 1: I've never seen one in physical form. I was in

1442
01:12:03,760 --> 01:12:05,000
Speaker 1: I was in Mexico and it came out and I

1443
01:12:05,080 --> 01:12:06,880
Speaker 1: came home and I was like, Oh, they're gone. They're gone.

1444
01:12:06,920 --> 01:12:09,880
Speaker 1: They won't send me one because they're fucking assholes. Um, seriously,

1445
01:12:09,920 --> 01:12:14,680
Speaker 1: they're not nice people. Um. But King palm is my

1446
01:12:14,760 --> 01:12:16,880
Speaker 1: favorite to smoke because you can feel like a good

1447
01:12:16,920 --> 01:12:18,519
Speaker 1: amount in there's where you and your friends can get

1448
01:12:18,560 --> 01:12:21,679
Speaker 1: blitzed and you can sit and talk and like, you know, bond.

1449
01:12:21,920 --> 01:12:26,439
Speaker 1: There's a spiritual ritual, some intention setting and some like

1450
01:12:26,600 --> 01:12:28,720
Speaker 1: what's the purpose of me doing this? Like always fun.

1451
01:12:28,840 --> 01:12:31,840
Speaker 1: Question number three of the High five mark what is

1452
01:12:31,920 --> 01:12:37,120
Speaker 1: the craziest place you ever use or smoked cannabis? Um,

1453
01:12:37,600 --> 01:12:42,480
Speaker 1: I mean I smoke a lot of cannabis. Uh, probably

1454
01:12:42,880 --> 01:12:46,400
Speaker 1: in athletic competition. Yeah. Not a lot of people can

1455
01:12:46,439 --> 01:12:50,280
Speaker 1: say that they've smoke weed fought people, you know, in

1456
01:12:50,360 --> 01:12:53,720
Speaker 1: an arena in the arena. That's fun. That's great, that's

1457
01:12:53,720 --> 01:12:56,439
Speaker 1: a good one. What about you in how was the question? Again?

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Speaker 1: Craziest place? Okay? So um. Speaking of Frank Shamrock, he

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01:13:01,800 --> 01:13:03,960
Speaker 1: walked into my hotel room in Japan and I was

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01:13:04,040 --> 01:13:06,439
Speaker 1: on a vape and he walks in and goes, what

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01:13:06,560 --> 01:13:08,720
Speaker 1: are you doing? Because he was my agent at this point,

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01:13:08,800 --> 01:13:11,759
Speaker 1: and I was like, uh, just fucking or eating breakfast.

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01:13:12,560 --> 01:13:16,880
Speaker 1: He's like, is that a vape? Like, yes, want some?

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01:13:17,400 --> 01:13:19,120
Speaker 1: And he goes, We're in Japan. How did you get

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01:13:19,160 --> 01:13:20,840
Speaker 1: that here? He said, you snuck that in here? And

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01:13:20,880 --> 01:13:22,679
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, I brought a bunch of ships.

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01:13:23,280 --> 01:13:25,360
Speaker 1: Oh my god. And you know, my dad used to

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01:13:25,360 --> 01:13:27,640
Speaker 1: smoke with cannabis around the world and in uh in

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01:13:27,720 --> 01:13:30,360
Speaker 1: the seventies. He's like, no, we're in Japan, highly illegal.

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01:13:30,439 --> 01:13:32,040
Speaker 1: And I just I didn't even really mean to. I

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01:13:32,120 --> 01:13:33,640
Speaker 1: just had some extra shit in my bad because I

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01:13:33,720 --> 01:13:35,040
Speaker 1: smoked that much weed at the bed at that point

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01:13:35,040 --> 01:13:37,040
Speaker 1: in my life. I don't anymore. Um, I don't. I

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01:13:37,080 --> 01:13:39,000
Speaker 1: don't smoke every day. I don't really smoke anymore at

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01:13:39,000 --> 01:13:46,280
Speaker 1: All've been sober for a while. Um and you know,

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01:13:47,040 --> 01:13:48,960
Speaker 1: like I don't know where it was, Franks say when

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01:13:48,960 --> 01:13:51,240
Speaker 1: you feel that? Frank just he just laughed. And then

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01:13:51,280 --> 01:13:52,880
Speaker 1: I was like, well, I have to have my flight soon,

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01:13:53,600 --> 01:13:55,800
Speaker 1: like I gotta I gotta fly back home. Anyways, I've

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01:13:55,800 --> 01:13:57,920
Speaker 1: been smoking this whole week, um Like, but yeah, you

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01:13:58,000 --> 01:13:59,040
Speaker 1: just take the rest of it. So I left the

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01:13:59,080 --> 01:14:01,000
Speaker 1: rest of it with him, and he got rid of it,

1483
01:14:01,080 --> 01:14:03,200
Speaker 1: because that's what a good agent would do, right. He's like,

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01:14:03,320 --> 01:14:06,240
Speaker 1: I'll take care of this and let this go. Cranks

1485
01:14:06,280 --> 01:14:09,000
Speaker 1: such a good guy. What did your go to munchies

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01:14:09,320 --> 01:14:12,240
Speaker 1: after you get high? A good one? Maybe after a

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01:14:12,320 --> 01:14:15,760
Speaker 1: good workout too, and a good rip. I mean, I

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01:14:15,960 --> 01:14:19,280
Speaker 1: love ice cream and cookies, you know what I mean.

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01:14:19,320 --> 01:14:22,320
Speaker 1: If I'm doing sweets, if I want to eat something

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01:14:22,400 --> 01:14:26,720
Speaker 1: really fatty, maybe like a Chicago style pizza. What kind

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01:14:26,800 --> 01:14:29,280
Speaker 1: what kind of ice cream? Though? Uh? Like something from

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01:14:29,320 --> 01:14:33,000
Speaker 1: Ben and Jerry's something crazy crazy and the pizza like,

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01:14:33,240 --> 01:14:38,360
Speaker 1: uh Chicago style pepperoni? Okay, yeah? Nice? What about you

1494
01:14:38,479 --> 01:14:41,799
Speaker 1: in gelato? Gelatto? Probably another getting a little more specific

1495
01:14:41,800 --> 01:14:44,880
Speaker 1: ice cream in general, Like that's just he's run on point. Yeah,

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01:14:44,880 --> 01:14:47,559
Speaker 1: I'll ruin my whole day tomorrow eating ice cream tonight,

1497
01:14:47,760 --> 01:14:52,040
Speaker 1: like and I don't care, I'll run it off. Yeah.

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01:14:52,280 --> 01:14:59,960
Speaker 1: Crumble cookies, they're so first one over the weekend, really

1499
01:15:00,320 --> 01:15:03,280
Speaker 1: freaking died. And the best part about trouble is they

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01:15:03,360 --> 01:15:05,599
Speaker 1: only have like four that day when you go there,

1501
01:15:05,680 --> 01:15:08,000
Speaker 1: like you can pick only from four selections or six

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01:15:08,120 --> 01:15:10,040
Speaker 1: whatever it is. But those are the cookies that you

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01:15:10,120 --> 01:15:12,760
Speaker 1: choose from. It's not a fucking twenty of them. It's like, nope,

1504
01:15:12,760 --> 01:15:14,360
Speaker 1: this is what we have. I'm right in the middle

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01:15:14,880 --> 01:15:17,960
Speaker 1: with the pink on top. Oh my, there's one out

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01:15:18,000 --> 01:15:20,680
Speaker 1: there in RSM. Yeah, there's one in Dana point one

1507
01:15:20,720 --> 01:15:23,320
Speaker 1: in Sanclementy. I'm like right in the middle. I'm in

1508
01:15:23,400 --> 01:15:25,760
Speaker 1: training right now. And then there's there's a handle's a

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01:15:25,800 --> 01:15:29,679
Speaker 1: handles of cream handles. So that's the best ice creams

1510
01:15:29,760 --> 01:15:31,880
Speaker 1: join and they serve so much to the handles. Yes,

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01:15:32,040 --> 01:15:33,800
Speaker 1: I literally think handles is the best. One of mine

1512
01:15:33,920 --> 01:15:37,599
Speaker 1: is Monkey Business, Yes, my favorite is monkey best one.

1513
01:15:37,880 --> 01:15:41,080
Speaker 1: But shout out to a Lucky Dog Gelato in San Clementi. Um,

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01:15:41,200 --> 01:15:44,280
Speaker 1: the places the bomb Um. But you know, it's like

1515
01:15:44,760 --> 01:15:47,080
Speaker 1: whatever my daughter wants, she just happens to like ice

1516
01:15:47,160 --> 01:15:48,920
Speaker 1: cream and gelato as well. It's funny we said, we're

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01:15:49,040 --> 01:15:51,439
Speaker 1: I'm literally going to to Dana Point. Where am I

1518
01:15:51,520 --> 01:15:53,120
Speaker 1: going in Dana Point? To the Let me see that

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01:15:53,280 --> 01:15:55,640
Speaker 1: You're probably going to the Dana Point Community House is

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01:15:55,640 --> 01:15:57,679
Speaker 1: where I'm going right there on San Juan Avenue. I'm

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01:15:57,680 --> 01:16:00,920
Speaker 1: going to the community House. Yeah, little programming did I

1522
01:16:01,000 --> 01:16:04,240
Speaker 1: go to at night? Sometimes a little men's taga question

1523
01:16:04,800 --> 01:16:08,760
Speaker 1: number five or the high five. If you could smoke

1524
01:16:08,840 --> 01:16:13,280
Speaker 1: cannabis with anyone dead or alive, who would it be

1525
01:16:13,479 --> 01:16:18,000
Speaker 1: and why? That's a great question. If I could smoke

1526
01:16:18,080 --> 01:16:22,600
Speaker 1: weed with anybody, it would probably be like one of

1527
01:16:22,680 --> 01:16:26,519
Speaker 1: my favorite fighters of all time? And who would that be? Uh?

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01:16:26,880 --> 01:16:29,120
Speaker 1: As far as fighters, Etan used to be one of

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01:16:29,200 --> 01:16:31,200
Speaker 1: my favorite fighters. By smoke weed with him all the time.

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01:16:31,240 --> 01:16:35,280
Speaker 1: So that you know, we'll skip that. H Mike Tyson

1531
01:16:35,400 --> 01:16:37,920
Speaker 1: has always been one of my favorites. Prince Na Siemhamad.

1532
01:16:37,960 --> 01:16:40,040
Speaker 1: I don't know if he smokes weed. I know Mike does.

1533
01:16:40,080 --> 01:16:41,840
Speaker 1: I'd love to smoke weed with Mike Tyson. I'm sure

1534
01:16:41,840 --> 01:16:45,040
Speaker 1: that's gonna happen. Mike's funmoke. I've hung out with Mike

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01:16:45,080 --> 01:16:46,600
Speaker 1: several times. I never smoked weed with Mike, but I

1536
01:16:46,680 --> 01:16:49,720
Speaker 1: hung out with Mike several times. Yeah, with him for

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01:16:49,720 --> 01:16:52,920
Speaker 1: a while. He's a lot of fun smoke. What about you, Ian,

1538
01:16:53,320 --> 01:16:57,000
Speaker 1: Bob Marley for sure, good answer, sitting philosophize and smoke

1539
01:16:57,080 --> 01:16:59,320
Speaker 1: with him. And just like, you know, he said so

1540
01:16:59,439 --> 01:17:03,400
Speaker 1: many like amazing things, so saying so many amazing songs.

1541
01:17:03,479 --> 01:17:06,479
Speaker 1: Like there's such good footage of him, Like I mean,

1542
01:17:06,560 --> 01:17:09,200
Speaker 1: he's a prophet and literally, yeah, it's a good way

1543
01:17:09,240 --> 01:17:10,760
Speaker 1: of talking about you know, like that because like his

1544
01:17:10,880 --> 01:17:15,120
Speaker 1: songs are still relevant today, Like that's what's crazy about it.

1545
01:17:15,160 --> 01:17:18,040
Speaker 1: And a lot of those profit style men that were

1546
01:17:18,080 --> 01:17:20,240
Speaker 1: from the past that did so many things are like, dude,

1547
01:17:20,280 --> 01:17:24,120
Speaker 1: like you know him, Malcolms, I mean, you know Martin

1548
01:17:24,200 --> 01:17:26,160
Speaker 1: Luther's ever you look at guys that have just done

1549
01:17:26,200 --> 01:17:28,400
Speaker 1: some crazy stuff, You're like, dude, these guys are still

1550
01:17:28,960 --> 01:17:33,280
Speaker 1: what's true today. Wow, good stuff, Mark Ian. Is there

1551
01:17:33,280 --> 01:17:35,200
Speaker 1: anything we missed and forgot about it? This is a

1552
01:17:35,280 --> 01:17:37,200
Speaker 1: great podcast hanging out with you guys, And I do

1553
01:17:37,320 --> 01:17:38,760
Speaker 1: want to know actually, so where do I get a

1554
01:17:38,840 --> 01:17:41,599
Speaker 1: hand a hold of these, Um, how are they? How

1555
01:17:41,640 --> 01:17:43,120
Speaker 1: are I? How? How do I get to hit me

1556
01:17:43,240 --> 01:17:47,840
Speaker 1: up on Instagram? Ian McCall slide my dms and you know,

1557
01:17:47,960 --> 01:17:49,840
Speaker 1: I'll take care of you. Well, we'll get it figured

1558
01:17:49,880 --> 01:17:54,080
Speaker 1: out because there's some changes going on, you know, with

1559
01:17:54,240 --> 01:17:55,880
Speaker 1: branding with the company, so we're just you know, just

1560
01:17:56,080 --> 01:17:57,640
Speaker 1: hit me your product you were just talking about, and

1561
01:17:57,760 --> 01:17:59,600
Speaker 1: and another product with them coming out of Tastic. That

1562
01:17:59,640 --> 01:18:03,639
Speaker 1: one's going to be stronger. It's called Dragonfly Medicines. It's

1563
01:18:03,680 --> 01:18:05,640
Speaker 1: probably gonna have four A c O d MTAM as

1564
01:18:05,640 --> 01:18:07,360
Speaker 1: well as something a little bit. We're gonna have mushrooms

1565
01:18:07,400 --> 01:18:12,720
Speaker 1: and that um and uh, we have a bunch of

1566
01:18:12,760 --> 01:18:16,679
Speaker 1: other adaptedness Corduset mushrooms line main mushrooms, Kirkyman from Tumeric

1567
01:18:17,200 --> 01:18:21,479
Speaker 1: and CBD and then the psilocybins Fantastic that's ultraflow state,

1568
01:18:21,880 --> 01:18:25,479
Speaker 1: ultralow inflammation. And you get people just to just to

1569
01:18:25,600 --> 01:18:27,479
Speaker 1: do what their broad bodies of program to do. And

1570
01:18:28,400 --> 01:18:30,400
Speaker 1: repetition is the mother of skill. If you get enough

1571
01:18:30,439 --> 01:18:32,760
Speaker 1: repetition of what you're supposed to do in and you

1572
01:18:32,880 --> 01:18:36,160
Speaker 1: drop the inflammation in the body, the brain shuts down,

1573
01:18:36,280 --> 01:18:40,000
Speaker 1: slows down. You can see everything easier, heightened senses and

1574
01:18:40,120 --> 01:18:42,640
Speaker 1: you can just analyze. You know, your free response is

1575
01:18:42,680 --> 01:18:46,599
Speaker 1: dropped and there's there's no un necessary movements, no unmiss

1576
01:18:46,640 --> 01:18:49,439
Speaker 1: every rate rising of the breath to these control the

1577
01:18:49,479 --> 01:18:51,920
Speaker 1: breathroom that does get ugh. You know, you can access

1578
01:18:53,600 --> 01:18:57,600
Speaker 1: just parts of your memory bank with reactionary purposes, you know,

1579
01:18:57,720 --> 01:18:59,880
Speaker 1: like with hitting someone back, moving out of the way.

1580
01:19:00,360 --> 01:19:02,280
Speaker 1: You know what things you want to set out for placement.

1581
01:19:02,360 --> 01:19:05,519
Speaker 1: You can see not just clearer, but you can see

1582
01:19:05,640 --> 01:19:08,040
Speaker 1: more all of one. It's good for fighting. It's really

1583
01:19:08,080 --> 01:19:10,639
Speaker 1: good for fighting. Well. You could also meet him Tuesdays

1584
01:19:10,680 --> 01:19:12,680
Speaker 1: at noon on the Dina Point Harbor. He's selling him

1585
01:19:12,720 --> 01:19:16,000
Speaker 1: there on a little bicycle right around you see it

1586
01:19:16,080 --> 01:19:22,120
Speaker 1: with the hat in the feather. Happy you got there.

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01:19:22,200 --> 01:19:25,880
Speaker 1: He is. Get your philosimon It's Cannabis Talk one O. Folks.

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01:19:25,960 --> 01:19:28,240
Speaker 1: Remember this. If no one else loves you, we do.

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01:19:29,120 --> 01:19:31,479
Speaker 1: Thank you for listening to Cannabis Talk one oh one

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