1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:05,559 Speaker 1: It's time to get inside the Giants. Hunt's Giants on 2 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 1: My Giants, give me some Jobs, part. 3 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:10,240 Speaker 2: Of the Giants podcast Network. Let's roll. 4 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 3: Welcome to another edition of the Giants Subtle Podcast, brought 5 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 3: to you by Citizens, the official bank of the New 6 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 3: York Giants. 7 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:16,480 Speaker 2: I am John Schmelck. 8 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 3: Joined us always on Tuesdays by the one and only 9 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:22,080 Speaker 3: Shown O'Hara. He's manning the fort back there, and he's Rutherford, 10 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 3: and everyone's excited to get a peek inside my hotel 11 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:26,760 Speaker 3: room here in Tempe in the early morning. 12 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:32,840 Speaker 2: Hours on Pacific time. Mister us, I'm afraid. 13 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 3: I'm afraid if I open up the curtains and the 14 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 3: sun comes in, I'm gonna be even darker. 15 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:40,879 Speaker 2: So we are doing our best here with the ill you. 16 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 1: Put the non disturbed sign on the outside word. I 17 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 1: don't want anybody bothering you during work space right now. 18 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:49,239 Speaker 1: But thank you for leaving your swipe card so I 19 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 1: could get into the building and get in your office today. 20 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 1: I think we can call this by coastal right now. Right, 21 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 1: We've got both East Coast and West Coast covered right now. 22 00:00:56,560 --> 00:01:00,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, we are covering both coasts, both sides of 23 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 3: kind of where the Giants are hanging out. So you've 24 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:05,040 Speaker 3: had a couple of days to kind of sit on 25 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 3: what the Giants did on Sunday against Arizona. Sean, I 26 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:11,400 Speaker 3: think both of us probably didn't feel great at halftime, 27 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 3: felt a lot greater after the game. Your kind of 28 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 3: thoughts two days later. 29 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, listen, we're a lot more jovial right now 30 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:21,399 Speaker 1: than we thought we were going to be at halftime 31 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 1: of that game. I think it was just an epic comeback. 32 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 1: You know, not to be dramatic, John, but I feel like, 33 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 1: and it's Week two, I get it, but that win, 34 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 1: that come from behind win in the second half saved 35 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 1: the season. Like just think about it. If they don't 36 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:38,959 Speaker 1: win that game, they're oh and two on a short week, 37 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:41,680 Speaker 1: going to San Francisco forty nine ers on Thursday night football. 38 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 1: They're staring owing three in the face. Right Like we 39 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 1: talked all season long before started about three games in 40 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 1: eleven days. If the Giants ended up going over three, like, man, 41 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 1: I tell you what, this guy would have been falling 42 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 1: around here. So I think it was a season saving win. 43 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 1: It felt a lot like the Week one win at 44 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: Tennessee last year and it was like just wow, like 45 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 1: the confidence, the ability to we're going for we're being aggressive. 46 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 1: So I think I don't think that can be understated. 47 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 1: The performance of Daniel Jones cannot be understated. He did 48 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 1: something epic, something historic. No other quarterback in the history 49 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 1: of the NFL has thrown for two hundred fifty yards, 50 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 1: rush for fifty yards, thrown two passing touchdowns, rush for 51 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 1: a touchdown, and had zero turnovers in a half. Nobody's 52 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 1: ever done that before. The last person to do it 53 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 1: in a game was Michael Vick back in two thousand. 54 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 1: So epic performance by him. And I think when you 55 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 1: just look at the way that the defense responded to 56 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 1: once the offense started playing, they had a couple of 57 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 1: great stops, forcing Arizona a punt and to get off 58 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:44,359 Speaker 1: the field, and then you know, really just to touch 59 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 1: on the offensive line. I don't know if a lot 60 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:49,119 Speaker 1: of people were aware, but the Giants basically started three, 61 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:51,919 Speaker 1: maybe even four you call him four rookies almost at 62 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 1: offensive line on the road in Arizona. So Andrew Thomas 63 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:56,919 Speaker 1: was out as josh A Zudo makes his very first 64 00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 1: start at left tackle. He'd started a couple of games 65 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 1: last year guard. Of course John Michael Schmidt's at center 66 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 1: is playing his second NFL game. At left guard, you 67 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:07,920 Speaker 1: had Ben Bretterson, who has started a bunch of games, 68 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 1: but he's a younger player. Right guard Marcus McKeithen making 69 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:14,079 Speaker 1: his very first NFL start. He tore his ACL last year, 70 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:16,919 Speaker 1: missed all the entire season basically, and then of course 71 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:20,519 Speaker 1: Evan Neil the right tackle, who is in his second year. 72 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 1: And you know, when you look at that offensive line, 73 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 1: the way that they kind of settled down in the 74 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:28,080 Speaker 1: second half, I think that is something that cannot be 75 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 1: overlooked or understated, the performance of that group in the 76 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 1: second half. 77 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, Now, Sean, this is kind of usually we do 78 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 3: the look back on Tuesdays, but since it's a Thursday game, 79 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:38,839 Speaker 3: we're kind of gonna make it a hybrid show here. 80 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 2: So let's start to bridge. So let's start here. 81 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 3: They cannot afford to have another half of football let alone, 82 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 3: I mean probably a quarter of football light they did 83 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 3: against Arizona against San Francisco. So how do you kind 84 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 3: of package what you did in the second half there 85 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 3: and just make sure you get off to a faster start, 86 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 3: because if you do what you did against Arizona, against 87 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 3: San Francisco, even for a quarter, You're not one in 88 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 3: that game. 89 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 1: No, no doubt about it. And let's be honest. The 90 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 1: forty nine ers have put thirty points up in each 91 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 1: of their two games this year, and against the Pittsburgh 92 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 1: Steels in Week one, they were the West Coast team 93 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 1: flying East Coast and I think they were up twenty 94 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 1: to nothing, you know, before you knew it. So they 95 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:18,159 Speaker 1: have been a fast starting team. You can't afford to 96 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 1: do that. I have always felt john that Thursday Night 97 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 1: football because it is a short week. I've always felt 98 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:26,599 Speaker 1: like both teams start slow, like it always ends up 99 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 1: being just a puntfest to start the game because everybody's 100 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:32,280 Speaker 1: just still kind of recovering from the previous game. Nobody 101 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 1: wants to make that mistake early on. So I feel 102 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 1: like both teams end up being very conservative to start 103 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 1: the game offensively because they don't want to make a 104 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 1: big mistake. They don't want to put their quarterback in 105 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 1: a predicament where they're creating some sort of turnover. So 106 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 1: I think that sense of urgency now the Giants. You look, 107 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 1: when you go from the preseason to the regular season, 108 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 1: it's a different speed, it's different intensity. I think the 109 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 1: Giants felt that against Dallas but just could never get 110 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:00,719 Speaker 1: back into the game. Now they understand, and here's how 111 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 1: intense and how hard we have to play in order 112 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 1: to give ourselves a chance. I think when you're on 113 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 1: the road, that first drive is paramount. You cannot go 114 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 1: three and out. You can't just give them, you give 115 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 1: the ball right back to them. So obviously, no Saquon Barkley. 116 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 1: That's gonna be a big key when defenses look at 117 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 1: the Giants right now, the one guy that everybody's game 118 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 1: planning for is Saquan How do we slow him down? 119 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:25,360 Speaker 1: How do we take him out of the game. Don't 120 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 1: let him beat us? Without him in the offense and 121 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:31,919 Speaker 1: in the lineup, that might change a little bit about 122 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 1: the way teams try to defend the Giants. Now, maybe 123 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:37,279 Speaker 1: you say, look, we're gonna not let Daniel Jones, you know, 124 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 1: beat this with his legs, or you know, maybe now 125 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 1: we focus on Darren Waller. So I'll be curious to 126 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 1: see how the four nine ers try to take somebody 127 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:47,040 Speaker 1: away and who they decide to take away for the Giants. 128 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:50,559 Speaker 1: But you have to start fast, you know. I think 129 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 1: you know not. No turnovers on the road is always 130 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:56,840 Speaker 1: a grave recipe for success. And how about defensively, John, 131 00:05:57,160 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 1: the defense has yet to have a turnover Jason pinneck 132 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 1: or a sack eception you know that was called back 133 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 1: as a penalty. But we don't have a single interception 134 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 1: or a single fourth fumble this season. I think we're 135 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:10,160 Speaker 1: the only team in the NFL to have that. So 136 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 1: you've got to create some turnovers to find a way 137 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:15,600 Speaker 1: to get that ball back, gets to some extra possessions 138 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:16,160 Speaker 1: for the offense. 139 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 4: You're ready for a change. Pay Day comes early with citizens, 140 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:22,919 Speaker 4: so go to that retreat. Knew you move to the country. 141 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 4: Now you're raising goats and launching a lifestyle brand. Are 142 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 4: you ready for all that life. 143 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 2: Brings and those sacks either, Sean? 144 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 3: I mean you put those three things together, and it's 145 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 3: hard for a defense to make an impact when you're 146 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 3: not making those big plays. 147 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:41,599 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's huge. And I think when you 148 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 1: look at last year who the Giants were defensively, we 149 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 1: were the number one blitzing defense in the league. We 150 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 1: brought more pressure and blitzes than anybody. This year, we've 151 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:52,840 Speaker 1: kind of scaled back from that and so you can 152 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:54,839 Speaker 1: kind of say maybe that has had an impact with 153 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 1: two rookie corners. I don't blame week Martin Bell for 154 00:06:57,640 --> 00:06:59,599 Speaker 1: not wanting to call these blitzer and put those guys 155 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:02,360 Speaker 1: on an Eyeand but to be honest, Deontay Banks has 156 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 1: been even better than I think anybody could have expected. 157 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 1: He has been basically leave him out there and let 158 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 1: him do his thing, and you almost don't even know 159 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 1: he's there. He's just you know, he's that good, he's 160 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 1: that physical, he's he fits the bill. But pass rush 161 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 1: from the front foward, like, where is it? Let's go. 162 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 1: Kevon Thibodeau is really struggling to get off blocks, Like 163 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 1: I have not seen him on the edge of a 164 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: tackle this season. He's not the getoff needs to be better. 165 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 1: He needs to get after it. Now he's going up 166 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 1: against Trent Williams, who is the best left tackle in 167 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 1: the league. So to all of a sudden think Keevion 168 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 1: Tibadau is gonna have his breakout game this week against 169 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 1: Trent Williams. That might be a little far fetched, but 170 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 1: they've got to create some pressures, you know, They've got 171 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 1: to find a way on the other side. Obviously, O 172 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 1: Jaalaari didn't play in the Arizona game, so hopefully you 173 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 1: get him back, either he or Zamenez, or maybe maybe 174 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 1: you put Isaiah Simmons in there on third down and 175 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 1: try to get some speed off the edge because you 176 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 1: can't let Rock Purdy sit in the pocket and you 177 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 1: know have time. So that's definitely key getting some pressure 178 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 1: on the quarterback. But really, when you face this forty 179 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 1: nine ers offense, you have to stop the run. And 180 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 1: I'm not just talking about Chrisian McCaffrey who has been 181 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 1: electric between the tackles. This is not the Christian McCaffrey 182 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 1: we saw in Carolina, like screen passes get him outside. No, 183 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 1: he is pounding the rock, running through people, breaking tackles. 184 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 1: So it's not just him like it's Deebo Samuel who 185 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 1: just had another rushing touchdown last week. You know Brandon 186 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 1: Ayuk if he's playing, he's tough to tackle. And George 187 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 1: Kittle rarely does he ever go down when the first 188 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 1: guy gets to him defensively, So a big challenge, a 189 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:37,680 Speaker 1: big task ahead of the Giants defense. 190 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, and look they have moved keveon Thibodeau around a 191 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 3: little bit last week against the car and those. They 192 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:46,320 Speaker 3: actually had him over the rookie right tackle Paris Campbell 193 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 3: a bunch in that game. So I think that that's 194 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 3: something else you can kind of, you know, keep an 195 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 3: eye on if they try to move him around around 196 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 3: Trent Williams. And it's funny I just looked up to that. 197 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 3: To me, the point the Giants have backed off their 198 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 3: blitzers a little bit. But for wait, that just means 199 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 3: he's now the third highest blitz rate in the league, 200 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 3: not the highest. They're at about forty seven percent. He's 201 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 3: always first, he's third now, Yeah, which. 202 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 1: John A lot of that's probably just because the Dallas 203 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:11,719 Speaker 1: game got out of hand and it was like, you know, 204 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 1: there's no point in blitzing. We're down thirty to nothing, Like, 205 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 1: let's just, you know, let's not give up any big plays. 206 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. 207 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 3: So what happened with the run defense against the Cardinals, 208 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:22,080 Speaker 3: because that has to get better too. James Connor was 209 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 3: breaking tackles left and right. I mean that to be 210 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 3: just fundamentals, right, It just you have to bring these 211 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 3: guys down on first contact. 212 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 1: I think it's twofold number one James Connor, Like, what 213 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 1: in the world did he eat? Like give me some 214 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 1: of that. I think he was eating some Ostrich eggs, 215 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 1: you know, with Dan Campbell for his pregame meal. I 216 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 1: don't know what you can do defensively. You have guys 217 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:45,680 Speaker 1: there ready to make the tackle, and he's running through everybody. 218 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 1: I mean he ran over at Xavier McKinney. He ran 219 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:50,439 Speaker 1: through a couple of different guys on a couple of 220 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 1: different plays. So that guy's a little bit of a 221 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 1: beast and he went beast mode. But I think for 222 00:09:57,400 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 1: a lot of the defenders, I call it sloppy September. 223 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 1: The tackle is this is always the worst tackling of 224 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 1: the season, the first two to three weeks of the 225 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 1: of the year, because everybody's kind of getting back into that. 226 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 1: Some of them didn't play in the preseason or you 227 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 1: didn't get as many reps on that. But I think 228 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 1: number one, you've got to run through the tackles like 229 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 1: they're arm. Tackles are not going to bring Christian McCaffrey 230 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 1: down or Deebo Samuel or George Kittles. So swarm to 231 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:22,200 Speaker 1: the ball, no doubt about it. And I think the 232 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:25,079 Speaker 1: one thing too is, look, the Giants have been playing 233 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:27,560 Speaker 1: a lot of nickel like they're they're not in base 234 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 1: defense a lot. So your your linebackers are Okaa Keay 235 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 1: and Michael McFadden. They're not big guys. They're not You 236 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 1: wouldn't look at them and say those are run stuffing linebackers. 237 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 1: They are. They are fast, they're athletic. Look they can 238 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 1: get feisty and they can get off blocks. But you know, 239 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:46,199 Speaker 1: if I'm an offensive lineman and I come up and 240 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 1: I see the Giants or a nickel, I'm begging our 241 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 1: offense according to run the football. So it's really on 242 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 1: the safeties rotating down to come in and make those tackles. 243 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 1: And I think that's really kind of what we've seen, 244 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 1: you know against certainly against Arizona where there's struggles were 245 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:02,079 Speaker 1: and you know. 246 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 2: This is not the week you want a short week. 247 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:06,440 Speaker 3: If you're the Giants defense, you're going up against Kyle 248 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:09,680 Speaker 3: Shanahan and that guy, as much as anyone, Seean knows 249 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 3: how to take his system but then specify it and 250 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:16,960 Speaker 3: really do different things week to week based on the opponent. 251 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 3: I'm sure he looked at this Giants defense from last year. 252 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 3: You know, over the summer, I'm sure the Giants have 253 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 3: done the same obviously with his offense. But this is 254 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 3: not the week where you have a short week two 255 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 3: days to kind of get your players ready for that offense. 256 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:33,319 Speaker 3: We know Shanahan is probably the best offensive coordinator and 257 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:34,440 Speaker 3: play caller in football. 258 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:37,680 Speaker 1: He is so good, John, I agree with you. He's 259 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 1: so good at layering different formations and personnels. And he 260 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:44,560 Speaker 1: will bring up a formation and they'll start out tight 261 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:47,079 Speaker 1: end to the right, receiver to the right, running back 262 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 1: to the right, and then all of a sudden, receiver 263 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:51,719 Speaker 1: goes in motion. Then they bring the tight end back 264 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:54,199 Speaker 1: over to the left, and now they have completely changed 265 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 1: the formation. Now the strength is to the left, and 266 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:58,840 Speaker 1: they do a lot that a lot. So you will 267 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:01,439 Speaker 1: see the Giants to that. Actually the Giants did it 268 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 1: a lot in Arizona. Then you would see o'caa Ke 269 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 1: and mcfatten switching when they did that, because they want 270 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:09,440 Speaker 1: mcfatten to be the will linebacker. They want o'cake to 271 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 1: be the mic. So there's a lot of pre snap recognition, 272 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 1: a lot of pre snap calls. They do that because 273 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 1: they want to try to confuse the defense, get them misaligned. 274 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 1: Maybe somebody doesn't adjust and now all of a sudden, 275 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 1: you've got a huge gap or somebody lose their gap integrity. 276 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 1: So a lot of that is, you know, it's premeditated 277 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 1: and it's a big part of their package how they 278 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 1: try to attack different defenses. They will try to get 279 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:33,080 Speaker 1: you to set the front based on the formation they 280 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 1: come out to the line originally to, and then they 281 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 1: will attack it. If you don't move the front, they 282 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:40,560 Speaker 1: will rotate the tight end to the other side and 283 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 1: try to attack the other side of the defense. So 284 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 1: there's a lot of chess matches going on out there, 285 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 1: I think for the Giants. The other key with that 286 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 1: is they do that because now all of a sudden, hey, 287 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 1: if the linebacker had the tight end over here, and 288 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 1: now when he shifts over here, now the sainty has 289 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:57,320 Speaker 1: to pick him up. They're banking on at some point 290 00:12:57,360 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 1: there's gonna be a miscommunication. We're going to have a 291 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:02,439 Speaker 1: guy running free and average because they didn't communicate, or 292 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 1: if somebody didn't get the right call. So there's a 293 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:07,199 Speaker 1: lot of that, and I think to couple with that, 294 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 1: they do such a great job of blocking on the move. 295 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 1: George Kittle might be one of the best blocking tight 296 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 1: ends on the move and of course you check their fullback. 297 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 1: You know, I think he's healthy. I think he's one 298 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:23,439 Speaker 1: of the best too. So they do such a great 299 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 1: job in the run game of creating different angles the 300 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:31,200 Speaker 1: keys defensively, reading and seeing you know, where they're trying 301 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:33,079 Speaker 1: to go with the football is going to be paramount. 302 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:33,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. 303 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 3: And last one on their offense, Sean, you know you 304 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 3: mentioned their formations and their motion. Well, it's their unique 305 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 3: personnel that allows them to do that, right. Kittle can 306 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 3: be an in line tight end. You can line them 307 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 3: up in the slot, you can line them up out. 308 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 3: Why you mentioned Kyle Yustchik, He's probably the most dynamic 309 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 3: fullback in football. 310 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:51,960 Speaker 2: You can line him up in the back, but you 311 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 2: line him up outside. 312 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:54,840 Speaker 3: Oh wait a second, is McCaffrey a running back or 313 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 3: is McCaffrey a wide receiver on this play? 314 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 2: Oh wait? 315 00:13:56,960 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 3: Is Deebo Samuel wide receiver or is he a running 316 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 3: back on display? They have so many guys they can 317 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:04,719 Speaker 3: move around that it's impossible to kind of figure out 318 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:08,960 Speaker 3: their tendencies because their formation can look completely different with 319 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 3: not just where guys are but personnel. 320 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:13,960 Speaker 2: But the play could be the same. I mean, just 321 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:18,199 Speaker 2: the type of variety in everything that they can do. 322 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 2: Can just really put the defense in a bad spot. 323 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt about it. And I'm just talking about 324 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 1: the Giants being in nickel coverage. Well, if all of 325 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 1: a sudden they go out and they have George Kittle 326 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 1: and Christian McCaffrey and three wide receivers out there, well, 327 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 1: Giants might be in dime personnel. They may send out 328 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:35,239 Speaker 1: an extra defensive back and now they have one linebacker 329 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 1: on the field, so it's four down line and one 330 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 1: linebacker and six DB's and then they put Kittle and Deebo, 331 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 1: Samuel and McCaffrey all within the backfield in some way, 332 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 1: shape or form, and now they're running power football at you. 333 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 1: So the ability to spread you out with those with 334 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 1: that personnel and then also do power football. They could 335 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 1: have Debo in the backfield as a running back. So 336 00:14:57,760 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 1: it's definitely something that the Giants are going to have 337 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 1: to figure out. Pre snap. 338 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 3: Giants Litle Podcast is brought to you by Citizens, the 339 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 3: official bank of the Giants from game data. Every day, 340 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 3: Citizens is made ready for Giant fans with insights, guidance, 341 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 3: and solutions. Learn more at Citizens bank dot com. Sean 342 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 3: you mentioned it off the top, Saquon Barkley. I mean, 343 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 3: unless some type of miracle happens in the next forty 344 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 3: eight hours, he's not gonna play on Thursday night. The 345 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 3: Giants might have already ruled him at officially by the 346 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 3: time people are watch you're listening to this. So what's 347 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 3: the approach now offensively for the Giants? Do they stick 348 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 3: with the same approach and you just slide in Matt 349 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 3: Brada and and Eric Gray, who I think both guys 350 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 3: will have a role in this game. Do you go 351 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 3: a different way? You know, how do you adjust what 352 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 3: you're doing offensively without Saquon there? 353 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 1: You know, I think I don't think they're gonna change 354 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 1: too much. You know, I think there are probably some 355 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 1: plays where you would have Saquon split out as a receiver, 356 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 1: or you would have him in the backfield, and you 357 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 1: have certain plays where you're trying to get him out 358 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 1: as a receiver and try to get him one on 359 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 1: one with a linebacker. So maybe they don't run those 360 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 1: specific plays. But I think Matt Brida is a very 361 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 1: good capable running back. He's very good at hitting the 362 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 1: hole and pressing the hole. He loves to hit the 363 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 1: ball front side, like he's a slasher, so he'll press 364 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 1: the ball, press the ball, and then all of a 365 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 1: sudden slash and cut back. But he does a great 366 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 1: job setting that up. So I'm really excited to see 367 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 1: him and to see him get downhill. I think he's 368 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 1: going to be very effective for the Giants. I think 369 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 1: the key with him is just get him as many 370 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 1: carries early on as you can, like, get him comfortable, 371 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 1: get him into some sort of rhythm, and then really 372 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 1: Eric Ray is going to be coming in and playing 373 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 1: some snaps. I think the biggest thing is going to 374 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 1: be who do you have it out there on third down? 375 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 1: Eric Ray? In preseason they took advantage of him a 376 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 1: couple of times in some of the games in his 377 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 1: pass protection. There was a couple of times where he 378 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 1: struggled against a linebacker blitz he got run over with powers. 379 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 1: So I know it's something he's been working on in practice. 380 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 1: He's gotten better at it. That will be something that 381 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 1: I am sure they're going to challenge now. Fred Warner, 382 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 1: you know, he's the best linebacker middle linebacker in the 383 00:16:55,840 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 1: league right now. I think he's he's not a full Timeli, Sir. 384 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 1: He did get a really nice sack the other day 385 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 1: on a blitz kind of he started out on the 386 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 1: left side, it kind of looped around to the right, 387 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:10,639 Speaker 1: so you kind of have to you always have to 388 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 1: know where he is. But I think the thing that 389 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:16,680 Speaker 1: will be interesting is I know that there were some 390 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 1: special plays for Saquon where he was lined up direct snap. 391 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 1: You know, we saw it last year. Hey, he's playing quarterback, 392 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 1: faking the handoff, keeping it running it. You know, we've 393 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:29,720 Speaker 1: seen him throw the ball like. All those plays are 394 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:32,719 Speaker 1: probably out. So now if you had some gadget plays, 395 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 1: some must win plays, fourth down plays, maybe you have 396 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:38,880 Speaker 1: some of those packages that were built around Saquon. Now 397 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:41,440 Speaker 1: you don't have those at your disposals, so you may 398 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:43,359 Speaker 1: have to come up with some other wrinkles. 399 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 4: You love turf, You're good at it, so you start 400 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 4: a turf business, grows, your savings, grow, become the most 401 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 4: celebrated name in turfs. Are you ready for all that 402 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 4: life brings? 403 00:17:58,400 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 2: Yeah? 404 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:00,399 Speaker 3: We saw on the second half against ours owner they 405 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 3: went to kind of that big play passing game down 406 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 3: the field, Shawn, And you mentioned this in your first answer. 407 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 3: The only reason they were able to do that is 408 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 3: because the offensive line was able to protect right. Jalen 409 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:11,880 Speaker 3: Hyatt's second catch was a post corner. Well, guess what 410 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:14,199 Speaker 3: that takes three or four seconds to open up one 411 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:16,639 Speaker 3: of Waller's big catches. He ran a little like post 412 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:19,879 Speaker 3: stop then went outside. That takes three or four seconds 413 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 3: to do. Those aren't three step drops, those are five 414 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 3: step drops. And again not taking anything away from Arizona, 415 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 3: but the San Francisco pass rush is a different animal 416 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:31,200 Speaker 3: than the Cardinal pass rush, right, So do you expect 417 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 3: them to go to more of a quick game thing 418 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:35,399 Speaker 3: against this Arizona against the San Francisco pass rush. How 419 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 3: do you think they try to handle that part of it? 420 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, great question. I mean I feel like this is 421 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:42,440 Speaker 1: Dallas all over again and it is going to try 422 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:45,120 Speaker 1: to do that. And look, I think a third play 423 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:47,879 Speaker 1: of the game against Dallas was a screenplay to Saquon 424 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 1: because we're trying to slow down Michael Parsons and there 425 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:53,200 Speaker 1: were a bunch of times where they ran right at 426 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:55,959 Speaker 1: Michael Parsons. They pulled the guard, tried to block him, 427 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 1: try to kick him out. You're trying to get a 428 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:00,399 Speaker 1: guy like Nick Bosa to kind of look at different 429 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 1: things like, hey, I'm unblocked right away, but there's a 430 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:05,159 Speaker 1: pulling guard or hey, I've got a fullback. You know, 431 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 1: the wham play is a way that you can kind 432 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 1: of get those guys to hesitate. So anything you can 433 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:12,679 Speaker 1: do to slow them down, draw us screens certainly helps. 434 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:14,920 Speaker 1: But I think when you look at those big plays 435 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 1: that you mentioned against Arizona, those are the same exact 436 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 1: places they ran against Dallas, and there were guys open. 437 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 1: Darius Slayton was open against Dallas. The difference was Daniel 438 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 1: Jones didn't have the protection. As soon as he dropped 439 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 1: back there and put his bright foot in the ground 440 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 1: and started to step up, there was somebody in his face. 441 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:33,200 Speaker 1: So definitely credit the offensive line. I also want play 442 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 1: action like that. You have to give credit to the 443 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 1: tight ends because you know, there was a play against 444 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 1: Dallas where Daniel had somebody open on it for a 445 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 1: big chunk play and Daniel Bellinger got beat and he 446 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 1: didn't hold up. This time against Arizona, we saw that 447 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:47,919 Speaker 1: protection hold up and we saw what Danie Zones can do. 448 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:51,360 Speaker 1: So there are some really good plays designed. Mike Kafka 449 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 1: has carved out some nice plays to get some of 450 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 1: those big plays. We had four plays over twenty five 451 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 1: yards against Arizona. I can't remember the last time the 452 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:02,119 Speaker 1: Giants did that in a game. So big passing chunk 453 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:05,879 Speaker 1: plays like that are definitely something that come from running 454 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:08,159 Speaker 1: the football as well, So you kind of have to 455 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:10,159 Speaker 1: establish that first to slow everything down to get those 456 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 1: big chunk plays. 457 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, and look, vick Bosa has lined up showing basically 458 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 2: evenly on the right side on on the left side. 459 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:19,160 Speaker 2: They will move him around and he's not their only 460 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 2: pass rusher too. Look, they have good interior pass rusher 461 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:24,160 Speaker 2: mentally like the Blitz. And then they play a lot 462 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:27,119 Speaker 2: of zone right, They kind of play that old Cover 463 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 2: three going into Cover four type of stuff, and Warner 464 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 2: kind of runs the middle of the field in that 465 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 2: zone cover. So how do you attack that type of 466 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:35,399 Speaker 2: zone when that's gonna be what you see for a 467 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 2: lot of this game. They don't have, you know, they 468 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 2: have a big safety talanoa Hufunga, right, he's got a 469 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 2: bunch of takeaways, but they don't have like these top 470 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:46,359 Speaker 2: cover corners that you know, there's no step on Gilmour 471 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:47,640 Speaker 2: and Trayvon Diggs there, you know. 472 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:49,639 Speaker 1: I think if you look at the forty nine ers 473 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:51,679 Speaker 1: over the last couple of years. That one weakness they 474 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 1: would say was corner like they they have young corners. 475 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 1: So I think, you know, if you're looking at that 476 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 1: as hey, how do we take advantage of that, start 477 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:02,440 Speaker 1: out with some quick throws. You know, get the ball 478 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 1: out your receive right now. Maybe he can make those 479 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:07,119 Speaker 1: guys miss, force those guys to tackle. And if you 480 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:09,159 Speaker 1: can do that get one guy to miss, that's a 481 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:11,159 Speaker 1: big play. I think the other thing is take a 482 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:13,439 Speaker 1: couple of deep shots. You know. The tough thing with 483 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 1: zone is if they can get pressure with four guys, 484 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 1: it really makes it tough for the quarterback to hold 485 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 1: on the ball, to let those guys clear and find 486 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 1: those soft spots to sit down. And you know, if 487 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 1: it's band coverage, you know, the ball can come out 488 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 1: a lot quicker because you're just throwing to a spot 489 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:31,400 Speaker 1: and you can kind of, you know, add your bet 490 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 1: on you know, who's got the better matchup. I think 491 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 1: from a zone standpoint though, if we're playing in defense 492 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:39,160 Speaker 1: that plays a lot of zone, and if they're playing 493 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 1: a lot of too high, they're begging us to run 494 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:44,119 Speaker 1: the football. So if you see that too high safety Look, 495 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 1: there's got to be the ability to, hey, run the ball, 496 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 1: and you've got to be able to do that. Then 497 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 1: they when they start rotating that safety down in the box, 498 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 1: then now you can take your shots and try to 499 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 1: attack downhill. But yeah, I think Jamon Hargrave is a 500 00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:58,680 Speaker 1: guy we haven't really mentioned. They signed him to a 501 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 1: big deal from Philly, so we know him very well interior. 502 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:04,880 Speaker 1: He's one of the best pass rushers and he's got 503 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 1: some real shiftiness and real quickness to him. So you know, 504 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 1: it'll be just going to see who's starting a right guard, 505 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:12,879 Speaker 1: if mkeithan gets his second start, if they put Glewinsky 506 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 1: back in there. Glewinsky really struggled against Dallas, so I 507 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:18,120 Speaker 1: think that's why you saw m keith in there. That'll 508 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:19,640 Speaker 1: be an interesting matchup to watch as well. 509 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, and if Andrew Thomas goes as Zuduo could kick 510 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 3: into the left guard then with Ben Bredison dealing with 511 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 3: that concussion off of that game on Sunday, so all 512 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:27,919 Speaker 3: stuff to keep an eye on. 513 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:28,200 Speaker 2: Sean. 514 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 3: This is always fun, my friend. Look forward to seeing 515 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 3: you in person next week after Thursday. Enjoy your weekend. 516 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:35,159 Speaker 3: I guess off of Giants Football. I'm sure you're doing 517 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 3: NFL network stuff. But the good thing about the short 518 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:40,200 Speaker 3: week heading into Thursday, which is brutal, you have the 519 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:42,360 Speaker 3: very long week heading into the next game, which isn't 520 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 3: until the following Monday night, So there'll be a long 521 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 3: break for us there at least. 522 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:49,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, like a mini buy they call it. Hopefully the 523 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:52,440 Speaker 1: Giants will be two and one and listen. I hope 524 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 1: you have a long hike plan with Paul Tatino today. 525 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 2: No, I have actually been staying as far away from 526 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 2: that man as humanly possible. 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