Speaker 1: What's up everybody. Welcome back. This week, Jeff and I
Speaker 1: are getting into everything. We have time to get into
Speaker 1: the Triple H era, the Rock and Cody Rhoads will Ausprey.
Speaker 1: We're gonna get into all of it and more this
Speaker 1: week on Wrestling with Freddy, and don't forget Thursday, the
Speaker 1: saga will continue of me trying to sell my own federation.
Speaker 1: You guys can hear the ongoing story on Thursday as well.
Speaker 1: Appreciate you guys for listening. Let's start the show now.
Speaker 2: Your Mate Events introducing the hosts Wrestling Win Forreddy, Chef
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Speaker 1: Mister Jeff, how are you, sir?
Speaker 3: I'm feeling good, buddy, how are you feeling.
Speaker 1: I'm good. You're back in town for a little while.
Speaker 1: Are you going back on the road.
Speaker 3: Same schedule, you know. I'm gone on the weekends, back
Speaker 3: in the on the weekdays. I was just in New York.
Speaker 3: I was stuck in West Virginia for a day.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got family in West Virginia. Take it.
Speaker 3: It's a great place, but not much going on. A
Speaker 3: lot of woods, a lot of oh yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: Comedy in the Woods was the name of the show
Speaker 1: you did.
Speaker 3: I mean, it was like a corporate event, and they
Speaker 3: were like people. They treated like Iraq. They were like, hey,
Speaker 3: thanks just for coming out here, man, we really appreciate you.
Speaker 3: Just coming out here really means a lot that you
Speaker 3: were willing to come all the.
Speaker 1: Way out here. Can I ask a comedy insider question
Speaker 1: and you can say, I'm not answering that a few
Speaker 1: to them? Of course, do the corporate gigs pay better
Speaker 1: than the comedy clubs or do the comedy clubs pay better?
Speaker 3: No, corporates pay the best. Corporate and colleges but college
Speaker 3: I don't even know if colleges do comedy anymore, but
Speaker 3: colleges and corporates.
Speaker 1: Colleges are angry at comedy, and they're used to love comedy,
Speaker 1: but now they're very angry at comedy.
Speaker 3: It's weird too, because these college kids have Netflix. They'll
Speaker 3: listen to all the edgiest comedians, but if one comes
Speaker 3: to their campus, they're like, can you believe what he said?
Speaker 3: It was all bad and terrible and sexist and racist,
Speaker 3: you know, But like they'll watch like Pete Davidson or
Speaker 3: I'll watch like, you know, celebrities on Netflix do stand
Speaker 3: up comedy, and they have no problem with it. It's
Speaker 3: very confusing.
Speaker 1: You said it best, and Jimmy Carr has said it best.
Speaker 1: Your version was I'm sorry the way I tried to
Speaker 1: make you happy didn't work, which I love. It's just
Speaker 1: so simple, and Jimmy' says, oh, I'm sorry, And then
Speaker 1: when they go you didn't mean that, he goes, oh,
Speaker 1: so you acknowledge I can say things I don't necessarily mean.
Speaker 1: I like that, and I think those are the two
Speaker 1: They're very opposite end of the spectrums, but they're the
Speaker 1: two best ways to defend comedy, which shouldn't need to
Speaker 1: be defended. Neither of these philosophies should have to exist.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't like the way you tried to make
Speaker 3: me happy, That's what they say to me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what's the joke.
Speaker 3: But it's also like I always think about it, like
Speaker 3: on Instagram, someone like I'll post like a video of
Speaker 3: my stand up, or yeah, I think this goes for everybody,
Speaker 3: not just me. You'll post something on Instagram.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: It's like, I'm Freddie Brunce Jr. Here's you know, the
Speaker 3: thing I'm doing. And then if someone talks trash you're like, dude,
Speaker 3: I'm sorry that you're not enjoying my free content.
Speaker 1: And I'll always get a couple of people that I'll
Speaker 1: just be like, you look old, Stay off Instagram. It's
Speaker 1: like show bro, take it easy, dude.
Speaker 3: I didn't sell it to you, and it's not like
Speaker 3: it's not like you paid one hundred dollars something. You're
Speaker 3: disappointed with.
Speaker 1: The product, Like, Bro, it's a miniature figurine that I painted.
Speaker 1: Take it easy, dude.
Speaker 3: Great, exactly.
Speaker 1: All right, let's talk some wrestling. There wasn't a ton
Speaker 1: that happened this week, but there are things that are
Speaker 1: worthy of conversation. The first and probably most important is
Speaker 1: the now defined Triple H era in wrestling. It and
Speaker 1: it's beginning. I think you and I have and other
Speaker 1: podcasts have have spoken about how it's been sort of
Speaker 1: the Triple H era for for quite some time now,
Speaker 1: and every once in a while, Vince would kind of
Speaker 1: come in and try to undo everything in one episode
Speaker 1: a raw that nobody would like, and everybody go why
Speaker 1: that episode sucked, And then as like news comes out
Speaker 1: that he was, you know, still being involved once in
Speaker 1: a while. That sort of confirms those beliefs. You can
Speaker 1: kind of tell on commentary when Michael Coles loose versus
Speaker 1: when he's tight. Go ahead, real quick.
Speaker 3: You know, the recently grumpy and bittered Ronda Rousi claims
Speaker 3: that as long as Bruce Pictures is still in WWE,
Speaker 3: that means Vince will always be in it. So she
Speaker 3: was alleging that Vince is still giving stories and ideas
Speaker 3: and things to Bruce, and Bruce will be pitching them
Speaker 3: in during this triple H era. That's what she was alleging.
Speaker 3: So what do you say to that.
Speaker 1: Well, I have no idea. I mean, you can allege anything.
Speaker 1: I could allege. Holly Holm, you know, was a better
Speaker 1: fighter than she was. But I'm not a fact jack.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to but you know she can. I
Speaker 1: think maybe she had a book or something and maybe
Speaker 1: that's why she was, you know, saying controversial things. Maybe
Speaker 1: she's trying to sell something, or maybe she just doesn't
Speaker 1: like wrestling and wants to, you know, do damage to
Speaker 1: the business and she feels it's done damage to her.
Speaker 1: Maybe I have no idea.
Speaker 3: No what I'm saying, Like she's saying that Bruce Pritchard
Speaker 3: will forever be that link as long as Vince is alive,
Speaker 3: he'll be able to.
Speaker 1: Even if that's true. Triple H is a really sharp guy,
Speaker 1: and if he doesn't like the idea, it's not gonna
Speaker 1: make it to TV. And I think you can see
Speaker 1: that with the type of storytelling he's done. Everything has
Speaker 1: felt very much down down the Triple H pipe and
Speaker 1: not so much down the Vince McMahon eighties and nineties pipe.
Speaker 1: It's been much or really just eighties. It's felt very
Speaker 1: different for months before WrestleMania, and hopefully we'll continue that
Speaker 1: way because I've really enjoyed it. They've had a couple misses,
Speaker 1: but so has a dubs sure, and you know, it's
Speaker 1: the curse of live television. It's either going to go
Speaker 1: really well or it's going to die very rarely. Do
Speaker 1: you go, eh, well, let's talk about it. Triple H
Speaker 1: came out, he think the audience. He did his wrestler
Speaker 1: guy voice. His wrestler guy voice is so much cooler
Speaker 1: because he sounds tough like this. Normally he's like, hey,
Speaker 1: how you doing, and he's like, says this super nice
Speaker 1: guy voice, but he does the tough guy voice. He
Speaker 1: introduces Cody Rhodes and Cody Rhodes is now the new
Speaker 1: face of the franchise, the face of the video game,
Speaker 1: the face of the new era. And they played a
Speaker 1: really nice video package for Cody that kind of showed
Speaker 1: his history in the company, and they even showed a
Speaker 1: little bit of Japan. They didn't show that he helped
Speaker 1: create aew, they didn't show any of that. They still
Speaker 1: won't acknowledge them, but they did acknowledge Japan in one clip,
Speaker 1: I think, and I thought it was really nice and
Speaker 1: sweet and charming, and I thought Cody cut a really
Speaker 1: smart promo, not his best promo, but a very smart promo,
Speaker 1: and you got a taste of what you're going to get.
Speaker 1: But I'll say this, there's no story here, and there
Speaker 1: shouldn't be. They haven't had time to start a new
Speaker 1: story yet, So I think we need to give them
Speaker 1: time and trust them since they did this last year
Speaker 1: and built it up for a year and in one
Speaker 1: case a two year, your story to now allow these
Speaker 1: new storylines to develop that I'm sure they've been working on.
Speaker 1: If this is in fact the Triple H era, what
Speaker 1: about you? Did you You're not the biggest Cody Rhodes guy.
Speaker 1: I get the feeling did you Are you liking him
Speaker 1: as Champ? Are you not buying it?
Speaker 3: I don't know what my problem is with Cody Rhodes.
Speaker 3: I've just I feel like I pick a guy that
Speaker 3: I like and then I just like them forever, and
Speaker 3: then the guys that don't really grab my attention that
Speaker 3: much is very hard to win me over. But yeah,
Speaker 3: Cody's fine. I'm like it right in the middle on him,
Speaker 3: He's good. I like it. I you know, somebody had
Speaker 3: to beat Roman eventually, and this is the guy they picked.
Speaker 3: I will say this, speaking about the era thing, this
Speaker 3: Triple H era, Gosh, they can't shut up about it.
Speaker 1: Uh, there's a lot of it. There's a lot of
Speaker 1: talk of trying to redefine the company. I liked it
Speaker 1: more when it was more organic and we were just
Speaker 1: seeing it. Yes, I like it more when we say
Speaker 1: it than when they say it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean like because they keep saying it. It's
Speaker 3: in the press conference, they're saying it. It's in the
Speaker 3: opening of raw they're saying it. It's like, we really
Speaker 3: get it. You know, there's a different era here. Do
Speaker 3: you think that in the past we even discussed the
Speaker 3: era that we were in.
Speaker 1: No that's what I was I was trying to elude
Speaker 1: at the beginning of the show, as we talked about
Speaker 1: his influence and how strong it was and how much
Speaker 1: more we were enjoying the stories months ago, long before
Speaker 1: it was it was defined as it. But I guess, like,
Speaker 1: once Stephanie says it, then that's when it Yah, So
Speaker 1: it happened. It was It started on Saturday according to WWE,
Speaker 1: even though it started before that. But they do change
Speaker 1: a lot of facts in their documentaries. I was a
Speaker 1: part of a few of them. They don't always get
Speaker 1: the right people. But yeah, so she said it on Saturday,
Speaker 1: So I guess that was the beginning, and we'll judge
Speaker 1: him from here. I thought we should have judged him
Speaker 1: from Bloodline forward for the last two years, because that
Speaker 1: was his story and that creative team story, not just
Speaker 1: not all credit goes to Hunters. They have writers working
Speaker 1: on that stuff NonStop. But yeah, man, I think it's
Speaker 1: gonna be good. Like we've already been saying, this is
Speaker 1: a renaissance for wrestling, a rebirth of wrestling. So wrestling's
Speaker 1: already been good and I'm cool to everyone's talking about
Speaker 1: the new era, and I guess we're supposed to talk
Speaker 1: about it, but I feel like we talk about it
Speaker 1: every week because we were already down with it, were already,
Speaker 1: we already liked it.
Speaker 3: I just wonder, do we have this change in of
Speaker 3: the era if the Vince McMahon scandal doesn't happened, you know,
Speaker 3: oh yeah, well that was the end of a chapter.
Speaker 3: Are they really just saying Vince is gone? I mean,
Speaker 3: you can call it an era all you want, but
Speaker 3: it feels like they're really just saying, hey, things are
Speaker 3: they're going to I mean inevitably going to be different,
Speaker 3: which is exciting for fans.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think there are one hundred percent saying that
Speaker 1: by just saying it's it's a new era. But I
Speaker 1: think that's how all eras kind of begin and end
Speaker 1: is some there has to be some vanquishing of the
Speaker 1: old guard in order for the new guard to move in.
Speaker 1: It's the same in like the fight game. The same
Speaker 1: in basketball when the young team isn't quite ready yet
Speaker 1: and get held down and the refs aren't given them
Speaker 1: the call because they're the stars, and then eventually they're
Speaker 1: the stars and they're getting the calls. You know, it's
Speaker 1: the same in wrestling where you look at the guys
Speaker 1: that are going to be a champion. Cody was a
Speaker 1: homegrown guy. He came up in WWE. He left, but
Speaker 1: he came up during WWE. And they're always going to
Speaker 1: take better care of their homegrown guys, then they're going
Speaker 1: to take care of the outside guys, right like we saw.
Speaker 1: La Knight is a self made man. He is self made.
Speaker 1: WWE did not make La Knight. La Knight made La Knight.
Speaker 1: He made himself, so there was no chance he was
Speaker 1: going to beat Roman Reigns for the championship. WWE will
Speaker 1: claim credit for making Cody. I feel like Cody made
Speaker 1: himself outside of WWE. I think a lot of people
Speaker 1: would agree with that. But he is a face that
Speaker 1: they can say he's one of ours, one of our guys,
Speaker 1: like Roman was homegrown, one of ours. I think that's
Speaker 1: what and I think it's subconscious, but I think that's
Speaker 1: why AJ Styles and La Knight didn't get the story
Speaker 1: that the other all the other characters got because all
Speaker 1: the other characters were homegrown guys and those two are not,
Speaker 1: and and they got less attention. It felt like they
Speaker 1: rocked their match. I thought their match was awesome, but
Speaker 1: I just didn't care about their reason why because it
Speaker 1: was just one dude buying a plane ticket to Australia
Speaker 1: to wreckon other dude's match, and then for the rest
Speaker 1: of that story, the dude who bought the ticket and
Speaker 1: wreck the match is the victim because the good guys
Speaker 1: doing a home invasion. Basically, oh, and this kid is
Speaker 1: in it like it was just a weird It didn't.
Speaker 1: It didn't feel like it got the tender love and
Speaker 1: care that the other stories got. And those dudes I
Speaker 1: felt deserved deserved a better a better reason why. But
Speaker 1: maybe I'm wrong. I don't know.
Speaker 3: I will say it's a lot easier to push a
Speaker 3: guy who's been in the in wrestling forever, you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, Like, yeah, from footage of these guys,
Speaker 3: you know, running around as kids.
Speaker 1: I mean, but it's not their footage, right, And WW
Speaker 1: has this weird thing where it's like if they don't
Speaker 1: own it, if they can't control it, it doesn't exist.
Speaker 1: I don't and I don't know why they insist on it,
Speaker 1: but and I could be wrong. I'm just saying it
Speaker 1: feels that way. It feels like that's why the guys
Speaker 1: that and the girls that aren't homegrown talent don't get
Speaker 1: the same love. They just don't get the same love.
Speaker 1: Does you feel that or a theory? Shit?
Speaker 3: No, I agree with that one hundred percent. It does
Speaker 3: feel like that. But it's like if you imagine being
Speaker 3: a guy like La Night though he's going I one
Speaker 3: of my sorry that my dad didn't wrestle who, my
Speaker 3: grandpa didn't wrestle who, my mom didn't book and my
Speaker 3: aunt wasn't involved in. Sorry, I wasn't at a wrestling school,
Speaker 3: like when instead of daycare. You know, it's like you
Speaker 3: can't really do much when you just have a wrestling
Speaker 3: dream and then these guys are just like in it.
Speaker 3: You know, if I'd have told my dad I wanted
Speaker 3: to be a pro wrestler, to be like, what the
Speaker 3: hell's wrong with you?
Speaker 1: What do you?
Speaker 3: Some sort of mental idiot? You know, but like the
Speaker 3: you know, if Cody Rhoades tells us dad, I want
Speaker 3: to be a pro wrestled and it'd be like, yeah, Jack,
Speaker 3: we got you. You're gonna be cool, you know, like yeah,
Speaker 3: they'll make it happen, you know. So it's just I
Speaker 3: don't know.
Speaker 1: No, that's exactly what I'm saying though, It's just it's
Speaker 1: it's weird. I don't know how we got on that.
Speaker 1: It's my fault that we got sidetrek, but but yeah,
Speaker 1: it just felt weird, and it's been it's been stuck
Speaker 1: in my it's been like stuck in my head since
Speaker 1: since I watched the match as to why I didn't
Speaker 1: like it, and it was because of the story. And
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, why didn't I like the story? And
Speaker 1: it just it felt like they didn't give it the
Speaker 1: same kind of care and they could have. La Knight
Speaker 1: is a frigging star and aj Styles is a walking, talking,
Speaker 1: living legend and they just deserve Anyway, let's talk some SmackDown,
Speaker 1: because a lot more happened on SmackDown. Paul Hayman, the Man,
Speaker 1: the Hall of Famer, with Sola Sokoa and Jimmy Usso
Speaker 1: they came out, they discussed WrestleMania. Roman Reigns wasn't trying
Speaker 1: to blame anyone. He was taking full accountability bloodline loss
Speaker 1: straight up. And then uh, there's a little confrontation backstage
Speaker 1: and some talk of consequences. There's gotta be consequences for
Speaker 1: this loss. They're not able to get into the champs
Speaker 1: locker room now because they're not the champs anymore. It
Speaker 1: hurts and you can see Soeca's egos really pissed off.
Speaker 1: Later in the show, Tomatonga makes his debut. So Big
Speaker 1: Tomatanga the adopted son of Haku. We all know and
Speaker 1: love Haku. He's the friggin man. If you watch Dark
Speaker 1: Side of the Ring, he was super funny. On episode Lately,
Speaker 1: Tomatonga made his debut and there were consequences. They beat
Speaker 1: the hell out of Jimmy Usso. They beat his ass
Speaker 1: and put a chair around his neck and smashed him
Speaker 1: in the corner. And I'm assuming this is the end
Speaker 1: of Jimmy's involvement with the Bloodline. I don't know where
Speaker 1: he could go from here. They can't damage the character
Speaker 1: and make him beg for his spot back because that
Speaker 1: weakens the Jimmy character, who's already lost the WrestleMania match.
Speaker 1: So I think it means he's going to team back
Speaker 1: up with Jay and there can be a Tomatonga solo
Speaker 1: so CoA versus the USOS who have reunited. Jeff, what
Speaker 1: do you think about that?
Speaker 3: I think that this will go on my long campaign
Speaker 3: of stop having the Bloodline fight inside themselves. I keep
Speaker 3: saying it every week, but it's like, why does this
Speaker 3: storyline have to be so civil war. Let's have some
Speaker 3: real wars. I'm tired of the civil war between the Bloodline.
Speaker 3: It is cool to see a new member. I was
Speaker 3: doing my little nerd research when he came out and
Speaker 3: was like, everyone was going, Oh, when he comes over,
Speaker 3: they'll probably put him in NXT. They'll probably make this
Speaker 3: guy have to like, you know, cut his teeth a
Speaker 3: little bit before he just you know, he's not just
Speaker 3: going to be right in the bloodline right away, the
Speaker 3: Tomatonga guy. But then no, he's he's in it. He's
Speaker 3: right in the Bloodline, which I love. So I thought
Speaker 3: that was cool.
Speaker 1: The Roman reign's reaction will be interesting because then we'll
Speaker 1: know is he in it or did Solo kind of
Speaker 1: go off and do his own thing. You've made this
Speaker 1: point before about the infighting that's going on, and I
Speaker 1: think there's something to that. Man. As long as there's infighting,
Speaker 1: they can't be dominant, and when they were dominant, the
Speaker 1: story was really really good. So there's no reason that
Speaker 1: their story needs to be done with Cody, but it
Speaker 1: is done. So who's next for the Bloodline? That's the thing,
Speaker 1: And I guess I go back to what I say earlier.
Speaker 1: We have to give them time to come up with
Speaker 1: a new story.
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, and I hope that they do something cool
Speaker 3: with it.
Speaker 1: I feel like the Bloodline should get a hall pass
Speaker 1: and get to skip school and not go to wrestling school,
Speaker 1: like they should be beyond that. So I hope they
Speaker 1: don't nxt any of the Bloodline and that should be
Speaker 1: a part of their story anyway. Like when guys go
Speaker 1: back and wrestles like yo, it gives them something to
Speaker 1: be a heel about, like yo, I'm better than you.
Speaker 1: Deal with that, like you're a scrub and I'm on
Speaker 1: the main show. I want to move to Wednesday night.
Speaker 1: We're going back in time. We're going to aew Dynamite.
Speaker 1: Dynamite is not had the strongest of shows lately. This
Speaker 1: was not the strongest show either. However, Will Osprey came in.
Speaker 1: We love Will Osprey, or at least I do. I
Speaker 1: know Jeff does too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's great. I mean, how could you not love him?
Speaker 3: The kid, he's a star.
Speaker 1: Well, WW didn't love him enough and he went to
Speaker 1: AEW and he addressed in his promo this quote that
Speaker 1: hunt that Triple H had had made on I don't
Speaker 1: know what ESPN, probably some sports network thing about if
Speaker 1: you're not up for the grind of the WWE, we
Speaker 1: don't want you. And he addressed the grind in his
Speaker 1: will Osprey way, coming off like Tom Hardy and Venom,
Speaker 1: but using his real accent and steady of the American one,
Speaker 1: just coming off awesome, cool, smooth.
Speaker 3: Took a dig, took a dig at Triple H.
Speaker 1: But he does it in this dignified way where he says,
Speaker 1: here's a painful jab, just to let you know I
Speaker 1: heard what you said, and now you can hear what
Speaker 1: I said too. He did instigated, he responded to it,
Speaker 1: and I'm fine with people having any sort of response
Speaker 1: they want when they've been attacked or they feel they've
Speaker 1: been attacked, right.
Speaker 3: But also, don't you think that Paul or sorry Triple H.
Speaker 3: His little jab wasn't at will Ospray as much as
Speaker 3: it was at ae W A E W will No.
Speaker 3: AW is a lighter workload, it really is, but it
Speaker 3: was why they're over there.
Speaker 1: I think it was directly focused at will Osprey one
Speaker 1: hundred percent because he had negotiated with them and he
Speaker 1: turned them down because they offered him an NXT contract
Speaker 1: and so he's like, nah, dude, I in't about that man,
Speaker 1: Like you're not paying me seventy thousand for me to
Speaker 1: do my shit, Like my stuff's worth more than that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And he can make millions at AW. And so that's
Speaker 1: why the jab was made because he because Will had
Speaker 1: talked about, you know, his love for a why he
Speaker 1: chose AW in an interview, and so that's when the
Speaker 1: little you can't handle the grind. So I loved his comeback.
Speaker 3: I love it too.
Speaker 1: I thought it was awesome, and I think comebacks are
Speaker 1: allowed and all bets are off when somebody's gone in
Speaker 1: on you. And I really do think it was directed right.
Speaker 3: But I don't disagree with Triple Ah. You know, when
Speaker 3: when talk to any of these old dogs who went
Speaker 3: over to WCW, you know, rest in peace, Scott Hall,
Speaker 3: but like talk to Kevin Nash, talked to Alex Luger,
Speaker 3: talked to Brett Hart, they were like, we're gonna get
Speaker 3: more money and we don't have to travel as much
Speaker 3: and we get to you know, we don't have to
Speaker 3: work as as often. That's better for our bodies, it's
Speaker 3: better for our families, it's better for our wallets. All
Speaker 3: of that's true. But yes, it's a lighter workload, like
Speaker 3: it is just one hundred percent. In fact, they brag
Speaker 3: that it's a lighter workload. I think that, you know,
Speaker 3: he's saying, oh, yeah, he wants the lighter workload. That's
Speaker 3: his dig. But it is also like, yeah, all you
Speaker 3: aew guys have a lighter workload than what the machine
Speaker 3: is doing over at we.
Speaker 1: By the way. Pretty soon, ww, he's going to have
Speaker 1: a lighter workload because TKO's taking away a lot of
Speaker 1: the live event. The house shows that they do, so
Speaker 1: even his guys are going to So that's another reason
Speaker 1: why I support Will and this as far as these
Speaker 1: two characters going back and forth, and I do think
Speaker 1: it's character work. Everything that said publicly is a work.
Speaker 1: He's doing that dig on purpose in character, and I
Speaker 1: think Ausprey is smart enough to know that. So all
Speaker 1: none of this is real, it's all Ever.
Speaker 3: Renee sold it good too, you see.
Speaker 1: She's amazing though, like she sells for everybody. Renee is awesome.
Speaker 1: She's the best announcer in the biz. She sells for everyone.
Speaker 1: She's also made I think the other talent around her
Speaker 1: better as far as the other announcers like, they engage more,
Speaker 1: they have more of a reaction to things. But I
Speaker 1: freaking love Renee. She's a good and I love that
Speaker 1: she did the ww Show with me, the Rival Show
Speaker 1: as a as a panelist and then left inside of
Speaker 1: the aw and they still had to air those episodes.
Speaker 3: I think she's so good too, because guys like me
Speaker 3: are always going is this real? Was that real? Did this?
Speaker 3: Was that a work? Or is this real? Like I'm
Speaker 3: always wondering and hoping that things are real, even though
Speaker 3: most of them are, and Renee is really good at
Speaker 3: making me think things are real. I'm like, oh, look
Speaker 3: at her face, dude, She's so uncomfortable because this is real.
Speaker 3: It's like Renee cells like a mother.
Speaker 1: Speaking of uncomfortable, they chose to air the cmpunk Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: and Jack Perry close caption footage.
Speaker 3: Cringey as hell, so cringey.
Speaker 1: Like Adam Copeland took care of it. He cut a
Speaker 1: promo the week before and said, look, man, wrestling's awesome.
Speaker 1: This is nonsense. People are shitting on people that don't
Speaker 1: need to be shipped on. We all have jobs be quiet,
Speaker 1: like just chill. And that was good. That's all we needed.
Speaker 1: It didn't need to go this far. And I I'll
Speaker 1: give him this, and I'm not even giving him this.
Speaker 1: They at least tried to wrap a story around it,
Speaker 1: but it didn't work. It didn't work at all, and
Speaker 1: it came off so uncool, and I hate that. I
Speaker 1: hate that because I want I don't want any wrestling
Speaker 1: getting made fun of, and I don't want wrestling looking
Speaker 1: looking bad. And that was like five minutes a time
Speaker 1: that someone else could have got over, Like you could
Speaker 1: have given someone a match, and in five minutes it's
Speaker 1: more of a squash, but you could have made somebody
Speaker 1: look great in that moment, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like Wardlow could have gone out there and killed somebody,
Speaker 1: And so I just thought it was a wasted opportunity
Speaker 1: and a big swing and a miss. But they took
Speaker 1: a swing, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: I mean, if you want to capitalize on that backstage footage, well,
Speaker 3: because you know, like when a real little scrape happens
Speaker 3: like that backstage, which we saw like once we see
Speaker 3: in the footage, it doesn't look nearly as dramatic as
Speaker 3: what they show us every week as scripted backstage conflicts,
Speaker 3: So visually it's just not as stimulating because we're going, ah,
Speaker 3: that's it. It was nothing. It looked like absolutely nothing,
Speaker 3: and especially like nothing compared to what wrestling depicts every
Speaker 3: single week. So it was cringey that they were like
Speaker 3: trying to, you know, make this this weird storyline. It
Speaker 3: was cringey that they even wanted to air it. If
Speaker 3: you want to capitalize on that kind of stuff, be like, look,
Speaker 3: real has entered the building of wrestling, then you got
Speaker 3: to do that the same way, same week. See them
Speaker 3: punk is there When we were all gossiping, like, let's
Speaker 3: see what happened back there, I heard that he really
Speaker 3: hit somebody, Like you've got to capitalize on it. Then
Speaker 3: if you're.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's here, you are crazy.
Speaker 3: And it's like, seem must just be at home going
Speaker 3: what like why would they even do this? Like it
Speaker 3: just makes them look desperate.
Speaker 1: You know who's sitting at home is Jack Perry because
Speaker 1: all his gears sold out. Yeah, I heard that he's
Speaker 1: sitting at home going, thank you very much. He's the
Speaker 1: one person who benefited from them.
Speaker 3: Airing the footage, the way Jack Perry like put his
Speaker 3: hair to the side and like was speaking to see
Speaker 3: him punk like in the little footage made me go,
Speaker 3: I bet that's smart ass just said something right there
Speaker 3: that I would have punched him for too, Like the
Speaker 3: way he like looks at him like like kind of
Speaker 3: like I was like, I bet he just said a
Speaker 3: little thing right there whatever that like I'd like something.
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, Brak, I just know that they
Speaker 1: both had enough with each other. And this is just
Speaker 1: going off what Sampunk said on Aarol Hajwani. It sounded
Speaker 1: like they both just had enough of the other's personality
Speaker 1: and the other style and philosophy on wrestling, And when
Speaker 1: you keep people like that together, it's just it's gonna
Speaker 1: come to a head. Man. They're they're both artists, and
Speaker 1: they're both going to be hot headed and said in
Speaker 1: their ways because that's what got him to where they are,
Speaker 1: and they're not gonna If you're not willing to change
Speaker 1: and evolve, that kind of shit's gonna happen. Man. If
Speaker 1: there's not going to be an open mindedness on either side,
Speaker 1: that kind of shit's gonna happen. But I didn't think
Speaker 1: anybody got over with this. I didn't think the young
Speaker 1: bucks got over with them being attached to the story.
Speaker 1: I didn't think the story they tried to attach to
Speaker 1: it got over. I didn't think, well, I was wrong.
Speaker 1: I didn't think Jack Perry would get over, but he
Speaker 1: got over like a mug sold out anything. I didn't
Speaker 1: think it made seampunk look good. I didn't think it
Speaker 1: makes anybody look good except Samoa Joe, who broke it up.
Speaker 1: He's the only guy that came out looking like a professional.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, the whole thing was pretty bad. The last
Speaker 3: time I checked, it had more dislikes on YouTube than likes.
Speaker 1: I didn't even know they still did discy more people's Yeah,
Speaker 1: more people thumbs down.
Speaker 3: To it than like to me.
Speaker 1: Check. Well, I'm glad they still have the dislike thing
Speaker 1: and didn't get rid of that. I thought I've heard
Speaker 1: they were getting rid of that because it like hurt
Speaker 1: people's feelings, And I was like, oh my gosh, man, like,
Speaker 1: let people have their feelings hurt when they're young, working
Speaker 1: life out so when they're older they can deal with
Speaker 1: how rough life really is. It's so much harder than
Speaker 1: a like or a dislike the But yeah, man, at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, I really thought they shouldn't
Speaker 1: have a veririted it. That was, like I said, it
Speaker 1: was five to seven minutes where you could have had
Speaker 1: a good match. I wonder if they regret what your
Speaker 1: company's all about.
Speaker 3: I wonder if they regret putting it up.
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's just one Does one person regret it?
Speaker 1: Does Tony con regredit because he's the one making these
Speaker 1: final decisions, He's the one running everything, or at least
Speaker 1: that's how it's presented. So I just feel like I
Speaker 1: wish he had someone there that he respected, right he
Speaker 1: had he would have to respect them, who could check
Speaker 1: some of those decisions before their decisions and say, well,
Speaker 1: hold on, let's think about how this, how this looks
Speaker 1: outside of what we're going through right now, and if
Speaker 1: it doesn't benefit the business, maybe let's not do that.
Speaker 1: And then he could take a moment and be like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think you're right, let's let's not do that. But
Speaker 1: I don't know if that person is there to protect
Speaker 1: him he's got If he's literally doing everything, that's too
Speaker 1: much and he needs somebody there to help get his
Speaker 1: back on something, whether it's creative, whether it's social media,
Speaker 1: something he can't. He can't be the boss of everything. Man,
Speaker 1: it'll eventually cause you to suffer. We asked the audience
Speaker 1: each week to leave us reviews and we'll pick some
Speaker 1: of the best ones and we'll read them live on
Speaker 1: the show. And we're keeping our promise. I have not
Speaker 1: read this. This is not rehearsed. So if it's a
Speaker 1: mean one, it's a mean one. Jeff, you just have
Speaker 1: to be ready, don't mind. All right, here we go. Well, no, look,
Speaker 1: I see it. It's already starting off good unless they're
Speaker 1: psyching me out. If they are, they got me.
Speaker 3: It'll be a big swerve.
Speaker 1: It says, good luck, Freddy. I wish you nothing but
Speaker 1: the best. You deserve it. Oh, this is a nice
Speaker 1: stead one. The way you and Jeff speak with so
Speaker 1: much passion for the business does not go unnoticed. I
Speaker 1: appreciate you very much, so does Jeff. All right to you, guys, listen,
Speaker 1: stay tuned for Unsanctioned Thursdays. That's tomorrow. We're gonna talk
Speaker 1: a little bit more about the journey for a lot
Speaker 1: of bit actually about my journey selling the show. A
Speaker 1: lot of new things have happened, no changes, but good
Speaker 1: things have happened, and we'll get into it then on
Speaker 1: behalf of the great One. Jeff dies. Yes, I'm Freddie
Speaker 1: Prinz Junior. We'll see I'll let you guys tomorrow. This
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