WEBVTT - World Leaders Unite - October 13th, Hour 2 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:03.200 Hour two Sean Hannity Show, eight hundred and nine point one, Sean, 0:00:03.400 --> 0:00:05.000 if you want to be a part of the program. 0:00:05.519 --> 0:00:08.400 Secretary of State Marco Rubio on the Big News of 0:00:08.440 --> 0:00:12.160 the Day. Today is one of the most important days 0:00:12.160 --> 0:00:17.119 in world peace in fifty years, maybe one hundred. Watching 0:00:17.160 --> 0:00:22.840 these hostages get released, seeing these countries, that many of 0:00:23.440 --> 0:00:26.560 these countries that have been so resistant over the decades 0:00:26.600 --> 0:00:29.400 to ever get involved in any part of the peace process, 0:00:30.120 --> 0:00:34.280 and that goes fundamentally to the coalition that Donald Trump 0:00:34.360 --> 0:00:36.760 was able to build. I keep going back to my 0:00:36.840 --> 0:00:40.879 four main points. Only Trump could convince a coalition of 0:00:40.920 --> 0:00:44.600 neighboring Arab countries to join in these peace efforts after 0:00:44.760 --> 0:00:47.560 decades of wanting basically nothing to do with being part 0:00:47.560 --> 0:00:50.879 of the solution here with only a perspective that he 0:00:50.920 --> 0:00:53.599 can bring former Speaker of the House really in his 0:00:53.600 --> 0:00:57.520 heart of hearts, he is a professor, historian. New Gingrich 0:00:57.640 --> 0:01:00.000 is with us, dying to get your thoughts. 0:01:00.400 --> 0:01:00.720 All of this. 0:01:02.120 --> 0:01:05.319 We know even Chlust and I watched both the Knesset 0:01:05.440 --> 0:01:08.720 and then Charmel Shak and I have to say that, 0:01:09.920 --> 0:01:11.960 first of all, this clearly puts him in the same 0:01:12.040 --> 0:01:17.000 league as Roosevelt or Churchill, and in some ways like 0:01:17.080 --> 0:01:21.480 Lincoln and Jefferson, and that he's now a world figure. Uh. 0:01:21.520 --> 0:01:25.280 And to see him assemble, that's what he did. He 0:01:25.360 --> 0:01:30.080 assembled all those countries, both Muslim and non Muslim, to 0:01:30.160 --> 0:01:35.240 come to Charmel Shakuh and who operate together. And if 0:01:35.280 --> 0:01:39.600 you watch the body language, and I tweeted a while 0:01:39.640 --> 0:01:42.200 ago that this is of the most amazing photo op 0:01:42.240 --> 0:01:45.360 I've ever seen, where he stood there and leader after 0:01:45.480 --> 0:01:49.240 leader after leader came up to get a picture with him. 0:01:49.760 --> 0:01:54.120 This is a level of personal impact that even Ronald Reagan, 0:01:54.160 --> 0:01:58.120 who was extraordinary and who did ultimately defeat the Soviet Empire. 0:01:58.480 --> 0:02:02.040 I'm not sure Reagan ever had quite the world presence 0:02:02.880 --> 0:02:05.520 the Trump is now developing. And it's a it's a 0:02:05.560 --> 0:02:09.239 presence based on achievement, based on the fact that over 0:02:09.280 --> 0:02:12.359 a long period of time he has accumulated a network 0:02:12.440 --> 0:02:17.280 of genuine friends who don't even trust him. And you know, 0:02:17.320 --> 0:02:19.920 we'll have to wait and see how with Hamas, but 0:02:20.000 --> 0:02:23.160 he has certainly isolated Hamas in a way that is 0:02:23.200 --> 0:02:24.080 pretty remarkable. 0:02:24.960 --> 0:02:26.239 It really is remarkable. 0:02:27.040 --> 0:02:30.359 Look, maybe maybe the president's right, Maybe maybe the easy 0:02:30.440 --> 0:02:34.400 part will be the rebuilding part. I think keeping together 0:02:34.480 --> 0:02:37.520 the coalition is going to be the hard part, or 0:02:38.040 --> 0:02:40.679 demilitarizing God's is going to be the hard part. And 0:02:40.720 --> 0:02:43.880 the same with his Ballah in the North at Elebanon. 0:02:43.960 --> 0:02:48.120 Although the President seemed optimistic that the new leader there 0:02:48.280 --> 0:02:54.079 is committed towards deradicalizing that part of the world, I 0:02:54.160 --> 0:02:56.880 think one of the key components, and correct me if 0:02:56.919 --> 0:02:59.320 you think I'm wrong, because you would know better than me, 0:03:00.440 --> 0:03:04.560 is after the President gave fifty days to the Iranians 0:03:05.280 --> 0:03:08.720 that they had to dismantle the nuclear facilities or make 0:03:08.760 --> 0:03:12.600 a peace deal, and they refused to do so, they 0:03:12.639 --> 0:03:15.400 would they just shut the door in Israel's face and 0:03:15.480 --> 0:03:18.680 the President's face. On day fifty one, Israel went in 0:03:18.720 --> 0:03:22.840 there took out their ballistic missile systems, their air defense systems, 0:03:23.080 --> 0:03:25.120 which paved the way for President Trump to go in 0:03:25.160 --> 0:03:28.560 there and take out their nuclear sites. I don't think 0:03:28.639 --> 0:03:33.440 we can really underestimate the impact of all of that 0:03:33.560 --> 0:03:38.640 on this day being able to happen, because in my view, 0:03:38.720 --> 0:03:44.240 I think without that happening, peace through strength personified. I'm 0:03:44.280 --> 0:03:47.560 not sure I think taking out those sites opened the 0:03:47.680 --> 0:03:50.920 door for a lot of these Arab countries now because 0:03:50.960 --> 0:03:53.480 they were scared the death of Iran as much as 0:03:53.600 --> 0:03:56.680 Israel was that you know, they were, you know, forming 0:03:56.720 --> 0:03:59.960 alliances that nobody knew about to fight against the radiant hedgemon, 0:04:00.200 --> 0:04:01.880 and they didn't want a nuclear on Duran. 0:04:02.440 --> 0:04:04.760 Well, I think that's part of the part of it is, frankly, 0:04:05.600 --> 0:04:09.520 just the psychological effect of being able to launch aircraft 0:04:09.520 --> 0:04:13.440 from Missouri, have them fly almost halfway around the world 0:04:14.120 --> 0:04:19.000 and with enormous precision, take out the Iranian nuclear program 0:04:19.360 --> 0:04:22.560 and then fly home. If you're a leader anywhere in 0:04:22.600 --> 0:04:25.039 the world, you look at that and you know there's 0:04:25.120 --> 0:04:28.440 no other country that could do that. And as he announced, 0:04:28.960 --> 0:04:32.480 as a commassadory referred to it, they're buying twenty six 0:04:32.520 --> 0:04:35.159 of the next generation, which is going to follow the 0:04:35.200 --> 0:04:39.799 B two, and this next generation will be even more capable, 0:04:40.760 --> 0:04:44.680 more stealthy, and carry even more weapons. So he's just 0:04:44.760 --> 0:04:48.240 communicating that we will retain our global reach and that 0:04:48.320 --> 0:04:51.159 we don't want to use it, but when we have to, 0:04:51.640 --> 0:04:53.960 we will use it with devastating effect. 0:04:55.000 --> 0:04:58.480 What about the fact that they're and we saw something 0:04:58.520 --> 0:05:01.600 that was pretty remarkable. Person that pointed it out was 0:05:01.680 --> 0:05:05.159 after the announcement that this deal had been reached, and 0:05:05.240 --> 0:05:07.480 I actually ended up having President Trump on the TV 0:05:07.520 --> 0:05:09.520 show that night, and we've played it here on radio. 0:05:10.200 --> 0:05:12.680 You know, Trey Yanks says, it's the first time in 0:05:12.800 --> 0:05:16.520 all the years he's been covering Israel, both the people 0:05:16.560 --> 0:05:20.600 in Gaza and the people of Israel were celebrating simultaneously. 0:05:20.800 --> 0:05:22.200 He'd never seen that before. 0:05:22.800 --> 0:05:23.440 What is your. 0:05:23.320 --> 0:05:26.159 Reaction, you know to that, because you know, one of 0:05:26.200 --> 0:05:28.039 my I think one of the reasons that some of 0:05:28.040 --> 0:05:31.560 the neighbor states have been so reluctant and resistantto bringing 0:05:32.160 --> 0:05:36.240 in or absorbing some of the population of the Palestinians 0:05:36.279 --> 0:05:39.560 has been that they are radicalized from a very young age. 0:05:39.960 --> 0:05:42.320 You know, we have played the cartoons that young kids 0:05:42.360 --> 0:05:46.320 watch on TV, and we've shown the school books, the 0:05:46.320 --> 0:05:48.880 math books. You know, you have ten Jews, you kill seven, 0:05:48.920 --> 0:05:51.320 how many are left to kill? I mean pretty much, 0:05:51.320 --> 0:05:56.720 that's what it's saying. And they've been resistant. But we 0:05:56.760 --> 0:05:59.400 saw a very different reaction this time. What does that tell. 0:05:59.279 --> 0:06:02.920 You, Well, first of all, people need to understand this 0:06:02.960 --> 0:06:06.880 is very hard in a free society where we really 0:06:06.920 --> 0:06:10.960 don't like to use force. But the fact is, the 0:06:11.000 --> 0:06:16.680 President had concluded that until the population of Gaza was 0:06:16.720 --> 0:06:21.719 sufficiently reduced in capability that they just desperately wanted peace, 0:06:21.760 --> 0:06:24.000 that they were fed up with what Hamas had done 0:06:24.040 --> 0:06:27.040 to them, that this would never be solvable. And of 0:06:27.040 --> 0:06:32.039 course by weakening Hamasa this decisively, they've actually created a 0:06:32.080 --> 0:06:36.279 space where local Arab families, many of them hundreds of 0:06:36.320 --> 0:06:40.120 years old, have begun to emerge and are openly contesting 0:06:40.200 --> 0:06:43.400 Hamas in terms of being able to run Gaza. And 0:06:43.480 --> 0:06:46.920 so the other thing to remember is when you start 0:06:46.960 --> 0:06:53.880 bringing in Jordans, Saudi Arabia, Gotter Egypt, these are countries 0:06:53.920 --> 0:06:57.200 that have very very good police, very good secret police, 0:06:57.560 --> 0:07:00.359 and a great capacity to go in there and to 0:07:01.080 --> 0:07:04.520 hunt down and stop any kind of armed AMAS effort. 0:07:05.000 --> 0:07:06.560 So I think what you're going to see in part 0:07:06.640 --> 0:07:11.160 is Hamas may either disarm or disappear, but it's very 0:07:11.240 --> 0:07:15.280 unlikely in the world that's going to exist as they 0:07:15.280 --> 0:07:18.080 go through reconstruction, that Hamas is going to be able 0:07:18.120 --> 0:07:19.800 to be an effective force. 0:07:20.400 --> 0:07:24.280 Having been to Israel numerous times and having been there 0:07:24.360 --> 0:07:28.160 during points of conflict when exchanges were going on, and 0:07:28.240 --> 0:07:33.400 having visited border cities like that in you know which oversea, 0:07:33.520 --> 0:07:35.400 which overlooks at Gaza. You can see it with the 0:07:35.520 --> 0:07:38.120 naked eye. You know, a town that when I was 0:07:38.200 --> 0:07:41.160 last there, maybe in what twenty fifteen or so, had 0:07:41.200 --> 0:07:44.640 been hit with ten thousand rockets in ten years, and 0:07:45.120 --> 0:07:48.120 you know, kids played in underground bunker playgrounds, and I'd 0:07:48.160 --> 0:07:50.680 been in some of the terror tunnel networks that they 0:07:50.680 --> 0:07:53.960 had built out at that point, and you know, it 0:07:54.520 --> 0:07:57.920 just was to me becoming unsustainable. I was using the 0:07:57.960 --> 0:08:02.160 phrase that the miss defense systems that the Israelis were 0:08:02.240 --> 0:08:05.160 using now were becoming a bit of a band aid. 0:08:05.680 --> 0:08:09.640 It's that they can no longer withstand this onslaught, especially 0:08:09.680 --> 0:08:13.000 as the rockets get bigger and more lethal and more powerful. 0:08:13.440 --> 0:08:15.640 I mean the Iranians, for example, when they were attacking 0:08:15.680 --> 0:08:19.320 Tel Aviv were using two thousand pound ballistic missiles, and 0:08:19.440 --> 0:08:22.440 now they were moving towards four thousand pound ballistic missiles, 0:08:22.480 --> 0:08:26.120 inflicting real, real damage in Tel Aviv and other places 0:08:26.120 --> 0:08:28.160 for those few missiles that were able to sneak through. 0:08:28.400 --> 0:08:32.480 Well. Look, I think the obxecutive reality was that had 0:08:32.559 --> 0:08:37.720 Hermas not precipitated total war, that there was going to 0:08:37.720 --> 0:08:40.839 be a long period of continuing attrition. And I think 0:08:40.920 --> 0:08:45.560 that in an ironic way, the great tragedy of the 0:08:45.600 --> 0:08:49.400 Hamas attack, the hostages, the people who were killed, the 0:08:49.440 --> 0:08:54.280 babies who were killed, actually triggered a final decision that 0:08:54.400 --> 0:08:57.920 it was simply unacceptable to have this kind of a neighbor. 0:08:58.280 --> 0:09:01.319 And so I think the Israeli people were totally unified 0:09:01.720 --> 0:09:05.200 in going after it. And Netanya who, as the President 0:09:05.240 --> 0:09:08.080 said in his speech, the concept and net now who 0:09:08.080 --> 0:09:12.360 they had somebody tough enough and strong enough to wage 0:09:12.400 --> 0:09:16.280 war no matter what other countries, with the Europeans, for example, 0:09:16.440 --> 0:09:19.679 who weren't at rest, you know. So they all piously 0:09:20.080 --> 0:09:24.200 decided they would recognize a non existent Palestinian state. And 0:09:24.240 --> 0:09:27.400 I think met Yao, who understood this was a historic 0:09:28.000 --> 0:09:32.120 one time moment because in Trump, he had an ally 0:09:32.720 --> 0:09:36.360 actually willing to wage war if that's what it took, 0:09:36.679 --> 0:09:40.160 and actually willing to support Israel in waging war. And 0:09:40.280 --> 0:09:44.080 neither Netanyahu nor Trump cared about world opinion because they 0:09:44.120 --> 0:09:46.599 knew in the long run what mattered with success. 0:09:47.080 --> 0:09:50.240 And now the Israel in many ways, and I think 0:09:50.320 --> 0:09:52.880 many regards, is that they had won this war. It 0:09:52.920 --> 0:09:55.719 was a matter of them just finishing it up. And 0:09:56.520 --> 0:09:58.800 Donald Trump threw a lifeline to the region. 0:10:00.520 --> 0:10:04.240 Well, I think the cost of the next phase was 0:10:04.280 --> 0:10:06.960 going to be pretty horrendous. And I think that by 0:10:07.160 --> 0:10:12.000 stepping in, Trump created in an environment where and then 0:10:12.040 --> 0:10:17.280 I have to get some real credit to Jared, because 0:10:17.360 --> 0:10:21.800 Jared really Kushner started this process with a speech day 0:10:21.880 --> 0:10:25.360 back in twenty sixteen. And the very first trip Trump 0:10:25.480 --> 0:10:30.040 took after they're elected in twenty sixteen was to reod 0:10:30.120 --> 0:10:33.439 in Saudi Arabia, where the king had brought together fifty 0:10:33.480 --> 0:10:37.360 four Muslim countries to meet with the American president. And 0:10:37.440 --> 0:10:39.920 so in many ways, Trump had been laying the framework 0:10:40.000 --> 0:10:44.640 for this for many years. And the Biden administration with 0:10:44.800 --> 0:10:48.199 US is left wing incompetence and its complete misunderstanding of 0:10:48.240 --> 0:10:52.240 the importance of being prepared to use force on some 0:10:52.360 --> 0:10:54.800 of what Trump did. But within weeks of Trump becoming 0:10:54.840 --> 0:10:57.800 president again, all those networks have been rebuilt. These are 0:10:57.800 --> 0:11:01.720 his personal friends, They trusted him, understand the importance of 0:11:01.800 --> 0:11:06.000 using force when necessary. And you now have this extraordinary 0:11:06.000 --> 0:11:08.040 seeing at charmeu Sake. I mean, if you looked at 0:11:08.040 --> 0:11:09.960 all the flags that were there, you looked at the 0:11:10.080 --> 0:11:12.120 leaders that were there from all over the place, from 0:11:12.120 --> 0:11:16.280 from Indonesia, from Turkey, I mean, this was an extraordinary 0:11:16.280 --> 0:11:21.000 bringing together of a potential alliance for peace in the 0:11:21.120 --> 0:11:23.400 least and for the reconstruction of Gossam. 0:11:24.320 --> 0:11:25.439 You know, that's our hope. 0:11:26.040 --> 0:11:28.520 Quick break more with former Speaker of the House New 0:11:28.600 --> 0:11:31.240 King Rich than your Call's coming up, and we'll play 0:11:31.280 --> 0:11:35.040 some of the highlights of President Trump from this historic day. 0:11:35.360 --> 0:11:39.680 These hostages, now after two plus years released, the remains 0:11:39.880 --> 0:11:45.040 still of many need to be handed over apparently AMAS 0:11:45.240 --> 0:11:47.520 terrorists or don't know where they all are. 0:11:47.600 --> 0:11:49.439 We'll update you on that and much more. 0:11:49.840 --> 0:11:53.920 Also, we'll check in with Ambassador Nathan Sales, who served 0:11:53.920 --> 0:11:57.560 as the first first Trump administration Ambassador at Large for 0:11:57.640 --> 0:12:01.319 counter Terrorism and acting on Secretary of State. Will get 0:12:01.320 --> 0:12:02.800 his take on this historic day. 0:12:02.800 --> 0:12:02.959 Well. 0:12:02.960 --> 0:12:05.640 A full coverage tonight nine Eastern on Hannity as well 0:12:05.960 --> 0:12:10.040 as we continue. I would continue now Former Speaker of 0:12:10.080 --> 0:12:12.719 the House, New Kingridge wighs in on what has been 0:12:12.760 --> 0:12:16.560 an incredibly historical day. You know, I have a hard 0:12:16.600 --> 0:12:22.240 time understanding the mindset of you know, the the rise 0:12:22.280 --> 0:12:25.920 in anti Semitism that we have seen worldwide, in the 0:12:25.960 --> 0:12:30.479 halls of Congress, on college campuses, you know, on the airwaves, 0:12:30.480 --> 0:12:35.280 et cetera. I'm not sure what Americans really expected Israel 0:12:35.360 --> 0:12:38.800 to do. It seems like there is a total lack 0:12:38.840 --> 0:12:42.880 of awareness about how many hundreds of thousands of rockets 0:12:42.880 --> 0:12:46.400 over the years have been fired from all directions into 0:12:46.520 --> 0:12:49.640 Israel and the impact that it has had on that 0:12:50.280 --> 0:12:54.560 small country of less than ten million people. I have 0:12:54.640 --> 0:12:57.360 a hard time understanding what part of what happened on 0:12:57.360 --> 0:13:00.960 October seventh people didn't understand. I mean mean, you know, 0:13:01.000 --> 0:13:04.079 two thousand people were murdered, all these people kidnapped, and 0:13:04.120 --> 0:13:07.120 then rapes and beheadings and everything else that took place. 0:13:08.080 --> 0:13:11.680 But based on their population sized versus ours, it's forty 0:13:11.720 --> 0:13:15.640 thousand dead Americans in a day. And then people are saying, well, 0:13:15.880 --> 0:13:19.000 Israel's committing genocide. What did they expect Israel to do? 0:13:19.559 --> 0:13:22.200 What would we do? What would we expect our government 0:13:22.240 --> 0:13:22.480 to do? 0:13:23.600 --> 0:13:26.920 Well, remember that there is a segment of the American 0:13:27.000 --> 0:13:32.040 left which doesn't think Israel should exist. So their attitude 0:13:32.160 --> 0:13:36.079 is anything Hamas did was legitimate because Israel shouldn't be 0:13:36.080 --> 0:13:39.040 allowed to exist. And in fact, you'll notice many of 0:13:39.080 --> 0:13:41.800 the people who are saying peace now now that they 0:13:41.840 --> 0:13:44.480 have peace a mad because their idea of peace now 0:13:44.559 --> 0:13:47.720 is the elimination of Israel. And in fact, this piece 0:13:47.760 --> 0:13:49.600 is actually going to make Israel more secure than it's 0:13:49.600 --> 0:13:51.800 ever been. So it's the exact. 0:13:51.480 --> 0:13:53.040 Opposite of what the left wingers wanted. 0:13:53.240 --> 0:13:57.400 And that's why in places like Columbia University there's not 0:13:57.520 --> 0:14:00.200 the level of joy you would expect because it's turned 0:14:00.240 --> 0:14:02.240 out the peace now actually meant white about Israel. 0:14:03.320 --> 0:14:06.360 Well, they said they were proclaiming they wanted an end 0:14:06.360 --> 0:14:08.640 to the war and end to the fighting and and 0:14:09.040 --> 0:14:11.760 to the death. Well now they've got it, and you're right. 0:14:11.840 --> 0:14:14.440 I think the silence among many of these people is deafening. 0:14:14.760 --> 0:14:19.160 Yes, they didn't actually mean what they were saying. What 0:14:19.200 --> 0:14:20.560 they wanted was an end of Israel. 0:14:20.760 --> 0:14:22.240 Well how am I supposed to know that. 0:14:23.800 --> 0:14:25.440 By watching them? 0:14:26.080 --> 0:14:29.640 That's a good point. Just observe them anyway. 0:14:29.680 --> 0:14:32.640 Speaker of Gingrich, we always appreciate you on this historic day. 0:14:32.720 --> 0:14:33.760 Thank you for being with us. 0:14:35.120 --> 0:14:37.400 It is a historic day and some of the best 0:14:37.440 --> 0:14:42.040 most incredible moments for the the videos that were put 0:14:42.080 --> 0:14:46.880 out by the families being reunited with their loved ones 0:14:46.920 --> 0:14:52.040 after two plus years pretty incredible. We saw this miracle 0:14:52.120 --> 0:14:55.640 live twenty live hostages returning to their families. It was 0:14:55.720 --> 0:14:59.040 pretty amazing. A little over two years ago, October seventh. 0:14:59.560 --> 0:15:03.320 You know, it's President Trump has been able to negotiate 0:15:03.360 --> 0:15:06.800 this peace deal, putting together this coalition that we were 0:15:06.840 --> 0:15:10.080 discussing with Duke King Rich and as Christians, you know, 0:15:10.640 --> 0:15:13.720 those of us have been standing faithful with the Jewish 0:15:13.720 --> 0:15:16.640 people as they were fighting for their very survival this 0:15:16.720 --> 0:15:21.360 whole time, and for peace and democracy. And through their faithfulness, 0:15:21.680 --> 0:15:25.040 often in the face of great adversity, they were instrumental 0:15:25.400 --> 0:15:29.560 and literally, you know, helping the people of Israel in 0:15:29.600 --> 0:15:32.480 their greatest time and need. They were fighting for their survival, 0:15:32.520 --> 0:15:35.160 make no doubt about it. All right now, we're going 0:15:35.240 --> 0:15:37.160 to in the last hour today because most of you 0:15:37.240 --> 0:15:40.600 were sleep as all these events were unfolding, I of 0:15:40.600 --> 0:15:43.560 course was awake. I couldn't. I didn't want to miss it. 0:15:44.000 --> 0:15:46.760 I wanted to see these hostages released. And seeing the 0:15:46.800 --> 0:15:51.040 reaction of the families was unbelievable to me. And you know, 0:15:51.240 --> 0:15:55.440 I mean, imagine a loved one, you know, for two years, 0:15:56.600 --> 0:16:01.400 missing their loved ones, not knowing if they would ever look, 0:16:01.440 --> 0:16:03.640 if they'd live or die, if they'd ever see them again. 0:16:04.320 --> 0:16:07.040 I mean, it was just so historic. But again I 0:16:07.120 --> 0:16:09.920 go back to the fundamentals here. What are the fundamental 0:16:10.000 --> 0:16:12.400 How did we get to this point? We got to 0:16:12.440 --> 0:16:15.440 this point. I think Donald Trump was uniquely qualified to 0:16:15.520 --> 0:16:17.800 do it. I mean, you have this idiot wink and 0:16:17.880 --> 0:16:20.920 Tony Blincoln. He's actually trying to take credit for this, 0:16:20.960 --> 0:16:23.720 as I discussed in the first hour, and well, we 0:16:23.840 --> 0:16:24.680 shut the founder. 0:16:24.720 --> 0:16:28.560 You didn't do anything. You did nothing anyway. 0:16:28.760 --> 0:16:33.800 But it was President Trump's relationship with Israel that that 0:16:34.280 --> 0:16:39.440 caused them. They could have obliterated Gaza at this point. 0:16:39.680 --> 0:16:43.840 They could have, but President Trump negotiated with him and said, no, 0:16:43.920 --> 0:16:46.920 that's not the best option. We want long term peace, 0:16:47.640 --> 0:16:49.800 President Trump. And I was there on the trip to 0:16:49.840 --> 0:16:54.280 the Gulf States. President Trump. He convinced the coalition of 0:16:54.400 --> 0:16:58.160 neighboring Arab countries to join in these peace efforts. Remember, 0:16:58.240 --> 0:17:01.120 for decades and decades they wanted nothing to do with 0:17:01.200 --> 0:17:04.560 being part of the solution. And it was President Trump 0:17:04.560 --> 0:17:07.480 that forged these alliances with all these countries because they 0:17:07.560 --> 0:17:11.400 respected him. And then you can't, you know, you can't 0:17:11.480 --> 0:17:14.640 underestimate the impact of Donald Trump taking out the Iranian 0:17:14.720 --> 0:17:18.120 nuclear sites. That was huge and it played a big 0:17:18.160 --> 0:17:22.439 part in this because when Hamas was told take the 0:17:22.520 --> 0:17:27.040 deal or you will be obliterated, Hamas hurt him loud 0:17:27.080 --> 0:17:28.760 and clear. You can do it the easy way, you 0:17:29.000 --> 0:17:31.959 will do it the hard way. Whatever you want, and 0:17:32.000 --> 0:17:34.920 that's peace through strength. Anyway, we want to get some reaction. 0:17:35.240 --> 0:17:39.120 Nathan Sales, former ambassador, served in the first Trump administration 0:17:39.359 --> 0:17:43.720 Ambassador at Large for counter Terrorism, acting under Secretary of State. 0:17:43.760 --> 0:17:47.080 He played a key role in the maximum pressure campaign 0:17:47.160 --> 0:17:50.760 against the Iranian regime and its terror proxies. You might 0:17:50.800 --> 0:17:54.760 remember that's when he took out Solomany and Bagdaddy and 0:17:54.800 --> 0:17:59.880 beat the ISIS Caliphate. Nathan Sales, Welcome back to the program, Ambassador. 0:18:00.119 --> 0:18:01.120 John, thanks for having me. 0:18:01.920 --> 0:18:04.000 Let's get your overall reaction to today. 0:18:04.720 --> 0:18:08.320 It's a great day to see the twenty moos come 0:18:08.400 --> 0:18:11.000 out now, not at some point in the future, and 0:18:11.080 --> 0:18:14.000 all of them at once, not dribs and drabs. It's 0:18:14.000 --> 0:18:16.240 a great day for Israel. But I've also got to 0:18:16.240 --> 0:18:18.800 say it's a great day for America because none of 0:18:18.840 --> 0:18:26.120 this happens without American leadership. Can together the Arab leaders 0:18:26.160 --> 0:18:28.520 and mothers on the one side and Israel on the 0:18:28.640 --> 0:18:31.639 art to forge a cease fire deal that's good for 0:18:31.760 --> 0:18:36.119 all parties. And you know, Hamas finds itself completely isolated 0:18:36.160 --> 0:18:42.280 now It's chief benefactor Iran. It's capabilities to threaten Israel 0:18:42.600 --> 0:18:46.760 are in tatters because of Israel's relentless campaign against Iran 0:18:47.160 --> 0:18:49.879 and US finishing off the Iranian nuclear program over the 0:18:49.880 --> 0:18:53.800 summer under Trump's leadership. So this is a great day 0:18:54.280 --> 0:18:58.080 for the hostage families. But let's also take our victory 0:18:58.160 --> 0:19:00.760 lap as Americans, because it was a Maria leadership that 0:19:00.840 --> 0:19:01.840 made this all possible. 0:19:02.880 --> 0:19:05.760 It really is, and I think in many ways, especially 0:19:05.800 --> 0:19:11.400 after the disastrous withdrawal from Afghanistan and then after President 0:19:11.440 --> 0:19:16.920 Trump's successful military effort against the Iranian nuclear sites, coupled 0:19:16.920 --> 0:19:21.080 with his ability to forarde these relationships with countries that 0:19:21.119 --> 0:19:23.240 have been so resistant. Why do you think these Arab 0:19:23.280 --> 0:19:25.920 countries have been so reluctant to ever be a part 0:19:25.920 --> 0:19:29.440 of the peace process. I would argue in my mind 0:19:29.600 --> 0:19:33.080 one of the reasons what was because they too feared Iran. 0:19:33.720 --> 0:19:36.040 They didn't want a nuclear armed Iran. And I think 0:19:36.080 --> 0:19:40.200 this now created a window of opportunity for the rest 0:19:40.240 --> 0:19:43.080 of the Middle East to side with the United States. 0:19:43.080 --> 0:19:45.679 And I think the President re established America's role in 0:19:45.680 --> 0:19:47.399 the world as the leader of the free world. 0:19:48.480 --> 0:19:52.000 I think that's exactly right. The untold story of the 0:19:52.040 --> 0:19:56.440 past two years was how quietly many of the Arab 0:19:56.520 --> 0:20:01.679 states were still cooperating on security matter with their Israeli counterparts. 0:20:01.720 --> 0:20:04.119 They weren't doing it for the headlines, but they were 0:20:04.200 --> 0:20:06.280 doing it just like they had before, and in some 0:20:06.320 --> 0:20:09.680 cases even intensifying it. And the reason for that cooperation. 0:20:10.080 --> 0:20:12.480 Forget about what you read from the diplomats or the 0:20:12.520 --> 0:20:16.239 criticisms of Israel at the UN. What really matters is 0:20:16.280 --> 0:20:21.359 those working level relationships between spies and spies soldiers, and 0:20:21.440 --> 0:20:26.040 the reason why those relationships were deepening was because everybody 0:20:26.080 --> 0:20:29.760 in the region shares a common interest in preventing Iran 0:20:30.200 --> 0:20:33.760 from becoming a regional hedgemond. The worst case scenario is 0:20:33.800 --> 0:20:37.240 that I ran that's backed by the threat of nuclear weapons. 0:20:37.800 --> 0:20:40.640 Israel doesn't want that, but the Saudis don't want that either, 0:20:40.680 --> 0:20:43.639 and neither do the Qataris. And so I think it 0:20:43.760 --> 0:20:47.880 was the genius of the first Trump administration to recognize 0:20:47.960 --> 0:20:53.720 that common shared set of interests across through the religion 0:20:53.760 --> 0:20:57.280 that transcends language, and that was the instant that opened 0:20:57.320 --> 0:21:01.959 the door to the Abraham Accords relations between Israel and 0:21:02.080 --> 0:21:04.920 other Arab countries in the region. And my hope now 0:21:05.000 --> 0:21:07.880 that Hamas is as isolated as it has ever been, 0:21:08.560 --> 0:21:11.239 now that there is a cease firing Gaza, hopefully that 0:21:11.320 --> 0:21:15.879 will open the door, don't the Cords? 0:21:16.359 --> 0:21:17.120 Well, I hope. 0:21:17.160 --> 0:21:19.359 So it looks like and I think that was the 0:21:19.480 --> 0:21:21.960 untold story in his first term, I mean, never got 0:21:22.000 --> 0:21:26.520 credit for it, that he had created intelligence sharing alliances 0:21:26.600 --> 0:21:30.480 with the with the US and Israel and Jordan and 0:21:30.680 --> 0:21:33.960 Egypt and the Saudis and the Emirates, all against the 0:21:33.960 --> 0:21:36.760 reigny in hegemony. So I think your analysis is spot on, 0:21:37.680 --> 0:21:40.600 Ambassador Nathan Sales. We appreciate you. Thank you, sir for 0:21:40.640 --> 0:21:44.000 being with us. We're going to play each aspect of 0:21:44.080 --> 0:21:47.080 what happened today. In the early morning, most people were sleeping, 0:21:47.320 --> 0:21:49.800 and because I think it's so historic, you're going to 0:21:49.840 --> 0:21:52.240 want to hear it. In the meantime, let's get to 0:21:52.240 --> 0:21:55.880 our busy phones. Dan is in Connecticut, Dan the man, 0:21:55.920 --> 0:21:59.399 how are you glad you called saray Sean. 0:21:59.440 --> 0:22:01.840 It's good to talk to you. Uh, finally got through. 0:22:02.720 --> 0:22:08.160 It's an honor. No I was calling. I was in Israel. 0:22:08.240 --> 0:22:11.720 I went there, so I went there like twenty something 0:22:11.840 --> 0:22:13.560 years ago, but I went there just for the first 0:22:13.600 --> 0:22:18.359 time in a long time earlier this year, and I 0:22:18.440 --> 0:22:20.879 just wanted to reiterate what I've heard you saying. They 0:22:21.040 --> 0:22:27.080 they I can say from experience, they loved Trump over there. Definitely. 0:22:27.560 --> 0:22:30.200 I definitely saw some Maga hats over there in coffee shops, 0:22:30.200 --> 0:22:36.200 which is, you know, awesome to see that. So I 0:22:36.240 --> 0:22:38.760 don't know, I'm just thrilled that these people are finally home. 0:22:39.160 --> 0:22:43.280 And I don't know, I just it still feels to me, 0:22:43.400 --> 0:22:47.840 I just like there's I don't know, hopefully, I'm so 0:22:48.000 --> 0:22:51.240 thrilled these people are home, but I just I still want, 0:22:51.400 --> 0:22:55.240 like these Moss guys they gotta it still feels like 0:22:55.240 --> 0:22:57.719 there's unfinished business with them. I don't know. 0:22:57.920 --> 0:23:00.680 So listen, I mean, it's like a cancer. 0:23:00.720 --> 0:23:02.960 If you leave a couple of cancer cells, the cancer 0:23:03.040 --> 0:23:04.520 is going to grow and it's going to come back. 0:23:05.119 --> 0:23:08.240 And it's got to be something that we are forever 0:23:08.400 --> 0:23:12.560 vigilant and monitoring and watching. And now the world is 0:23:12.600 --> 0:23:16.600 an opportunity. What we're going to need in this next 0:23:16.640 --> 0:23:20.160 step is critical, and that is we're going to have 0:23:20.280 --> 0:23:23.439 to make sure that Gaza could no longer be a 0:23:23.520 --> 0:23:27.640 militarized zone, and that has to be policed by these 0:23:27.680 --> 0:23:31.040 countries coalition partners now that are involved in this. It's 0:23:31.080 --> 0:23:33.639 not going to be US troops on the ground in Gaza. 0:23:33.680 --> 0:23:36.359