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Speaker 1: I listened to the Black Guy Who Tips podcast because

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Speaker 1: Rod and Karen are hot.

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Speaker 2: The way she bounced both cheek kis.

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Speaker 3: But she freaky should have known she was kinky when

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Speaker 3: I walked inside the room and I seen her slink

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Speaker 3: key even made me use my pinky the way she

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Speaker 3: teach me, you're so dreamy. Oh god, damn man. I

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Speaker 3: cheat on tests, cheat on a hose, I cheat when

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Speaker 3: I can. I'm even cheating on my whip. I got

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Speaker 3: a side benz, but she made me want to cut

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Speaker 3: off all my side friends.

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Speaker 2: A nigga be trying to chase her.

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Speaker 3: Take a date, raper stand outside the daycare, sit there

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Speaker 3: and wait there.

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Speaker 2: Fuck. I can't even trust the neighbors. Damn.

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Speaker 3: Hey, welcome to the Blackouts podcast, your host Rod and Karen.

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Speaker 4: I think that's the first time I actually really listened

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Speaker 4: to the lyrics.

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Speaker 2: And that that that Oh, it's a reprehensible song.

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Speaker 3: I try to tell y'all, Okaday Saturdays.

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Speaker 4: You're going, Oh, that's what it just fucked up? What

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Speaker 4: you just said?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, big sean milf.

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Speaker 3: He talks about sucking that little boy's mama and kicking

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Speaker 3: them out the room and shit, and then NICKI Minaj

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Speaker 3: get on there. It's's pretty pretty ty, pretty problematic.

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Speaker 2: Anyway.

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Speaker 3: It is a Monday, Monday night football the return. Finally

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Speaker 3: get to see my Eagles play because I don't watch

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Speaker 3: preseason football because that shit don't count to so uh

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Speaker 3: and I think we played an early game, so you know,

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Speaker 3: this show might be you know, maybe around two hours

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Speaker 3: because I do want to see him play yep, and

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Speaker 3: I need to see all the Sam braphit I can

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Speaker 3: see before he gets hurt for the season, So you

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Speaker 3: never know which play is gonna be the second, the third.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 2: You can find this show the.

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Speaker 3: Blackout Tips on iTunes the Stitch of the search the

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Speaker 2: as we like them.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but I prefer the hagana uh uh uh in

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Speaker 4: Yes, and I have you used it several times? Is?

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Speaker 4: I don't know why, but I tell headphones, y'all, I

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Speaker 2: Two hundred and seventy one. We have not forgotten about you, Bobby.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna get you out. There's a whole slate of

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Speaker 2: confessionis and shit that happened in prison, you probably gotta

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Speaker 3: Some hot nigga, like I told they when I shot niggas,

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Speaker 3: like I told them, the drop.

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Speaker 3: He doesn't drop niggas and keep he's some hot nigga.

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Speaker 3: One of these checks till out, pass out, pass out,

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Speaker 3: if you ain't out home, get up my trap house

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Speaker 3: fifth grade. Ain't we got a free on? He might

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Speaker 3: got another one that hit cent them. I don't know,

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Speaker 3: but all right, so don't forget.

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Speaker 2: Also, we're on like uh social media. You can follow

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Speaker 2: us on Twitter. I'm riding is prime.

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Speaker 4: I am saying that's again that as in d a

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Speaker 4: til you're talking about that. It's funny though, a lot

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Speaker 4: of people are like, hey, Ron, I love what Karen said.

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Speaker 4: You were like, she does have a Twitter name, y'all.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll get that a lot. Hey man, Karen is

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Speaker 3: so funny. I'm like, well just tell her, why are

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Speaker 2: Me on Twitter? And tell her she's funny because I

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Speaker 3: Uh, all right, man, let's go ahead and get get

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Speaker 3: into the actual show. There's news going on all around

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Speaker 3: the world, and uh, people expect us to talk about it.

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Speaker 3: I guess first and foremost, someone asked, the question, is

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Speaker 3: Taylor Swift the new Michael Jackson?

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Speaker 6: What?

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Speaker 2: Mm hmm is Taylor Swift the new Michael Jackson? Here's

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Speaker 3: Well, okay, no, Well they both will die looking like

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Speaker 4: But that's.

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Speaker 3: That is as far as that similarity goes with my opinions.

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Speaker 4: Than when when they compare ship like this is like

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Speaker 4: that never will bea aby to duplicate. Not that nobody

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Speaker 4: can't be better than these people, but you know, you

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Speaker 4: I want to see the longevity of her career, you know,

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Speaker 4: it's you know, it's not like she's been around fifteen

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Speaker 3: Well, Michael Jackson film, do you remember the time in Africa?

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Speaker 3: There was a lot of black people in them because

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Speaker 2: No black people. I mean, come on, man, it's not

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Speaker 4: She meant priapotaid or something she.

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Speaker 2: Need, Like, look, I love Taylor Swift, but she.

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Speaker 3: Would need like fucking six more nineteen eighty nine before

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Speaker 3: we can even begain this discussion. You know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 3: Like she would need like so many motherfucking more pop hits,

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Speaker 2: And I'm not saying that as a in any negative way.

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Speaker 3: It would be It's like when people say it's Lebron

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Speaker 3: measurables aren't really the same, and the era has changed, right,

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Speaker 3: and a lot of people are never gonna be willing

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Speaker 4: Right, And like you said, it's not the same. A

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Speaker 4: lot of Michael Jackson was pre Internet, and a lot

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Speaker 4: of shit matters. Honestly, pre approached Internet like that shit

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Speaker 4: Like it's gonna be rare that you get to a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you gotta think about it too, Like

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Speaker 3: They pay all that fucking money and show up and

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 3: They passed the fuck out, and then they got a

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Speaker 3: the pass out row where we just send these motherfuckers

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Speaker 3: back to the front right, Like, that's like, I don't

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Speaker 4: And it's still not mean a fair comparison, but I

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Speaker 3: She started out in the group, know, kind of like

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Speaker 3: there's some comparison there. And I think the thing with

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Speaker 3: crazy both ways. And she has these unreasonable fans and

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Speaker 3: these unreasonable haters, dude, and it's really weird extreme.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I don't even like talking.

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Speaker 3: About it because I find her as a personality to

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Speaker 3: just be a pretty cool person, not very like her

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Speaker 3: shit's not very preachy. She doesn't really seem to be

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Speaker 3: much of an activist other than controversial. Other than well,

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Speaker 3: I mean, well, she's controversial about things like that completely

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Speaker 3: affect her right, So like music and advocacy for artists,

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Speaker 3: she's about that, right, But like, I don't expect her

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Speaker 3: not really doing that and she just kind of doesn't

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Speaker 3: the things that I like about her are you know,

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Speaker 4: A lot of people albums. But y'all don't ever make

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Speaker 4: Or some shit like, y'all don't make that comparison.

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Speaker 2: He was fired two days later. He must have really

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Speaker 4: Yeah, get real close.

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Speaker 2: That's how they know it wasn't an accident.

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Speaker 3: Mueller not only denies that he had any inappropriate contact

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Speaker 2: Uh a name from a TV show, Eddie Haskell. Wasn't

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Speaker 2: He googled that ship? God damn he was.

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Speaker 3: He's a fictional character on leave it to Beaver? I

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Speaker 2: Eddie. Oh, Eddie up to.

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Speaker 3: His tricks again, grabbing Buddhists. Oh when when you learn.

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Speaker 2: So?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he claimed he was claimed to have touched Swiss

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Speaker 3: Immediately upon accident the arena, mister Mueller encountered mister Haskell.

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Speaker 3: Before mister Muller could speak, mister Haskell sightedly told him

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Speaker 3: Haskell stated that Miss Swift had recognized him and yelled

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Speaker 3: Mister Muller stag fastly maintains that no inappropriate context of

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Speaker 3: After all, at all relevant times the tent was occupied

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Speaker 3: The contention that mister Muller lifted up Miss swifts skirt

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Speaker 2: In a statement on Saturday, the ap.

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Speaker 2: Made his own decision after being given evidence.

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Speaker 4: Following the incident, somebody did something, they reported and they

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Speaker 3: Yeah, look man, I do wonder what's going on?

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Speaker 3: Right? You know, maybe it's a picture, or maybe it's

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Speaker 2: You still gotta deal with shit like this.

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Speaker 3: Either way, it's weird, right if the other dude touched

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Speaker 4: because when you start off, you don't start off as

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Speaker 3: So you know, who knows you know, what kind of.

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Speaker 4: You know that's something that people have a tendency to

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Speaker 3: Right exactly, Miss America CEO. Yeah, because I mean hold on,

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Speaker 4: But just starts down.

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Speaker 4: So I couldn't even imagine all the sexual little sault

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Speaker 3: If you report, you end up getting fired or you

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Speaker 3: Miss America CEO apologizes to Vanessa Williams during their pageant broadcast.

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Speaker 4: Oh this is uh okay what happened?

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, the controversy over her.

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Speaker 3: Mean that's tame now, right, that's like, that's like, you

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Speaker 4: What's happening?

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Speaker 3: It only took three decades, but I guess it's better

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Speaker 3: late than never. On Sunday Night, Vanessa Williams returned as

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Speaker 8: CEO of the Miss America Organization, mister Sam High School Sam,

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Speaker 8: thank you, Chris. I have been a close friend to

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Speaker 2: I want to apologize.

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Speaker 9: And to your mother, Miss Helen Williams, I almost apologized

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Speaker 10: Less for Miss America.

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Speaker 2: And I'm Miss America you always will be.

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Speaker 4: Thank you so much, am I dam.

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Speaker 2: So unexpected but so beautiful.

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Speaker 10: I did the best that I could as my reign

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Speaker 11: I on behalf of my family, my mother in particular

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Speaker 11: Brian Edwards, who orchestrated this entire thing to bring me back,

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Speaker 10: Your integrity, and you bring this passion back to what

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Speaker 10: it ought to be. I love you, I love you,

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Speaker 10: I love the girls, and I'm so only to be back.

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Speaker 10: Well let's go, Judge will Okay.

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Speaker 3: All right, that's been like a kind of cool moment,

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Speaker 3: so huge back then, this big deal. Just oh my god,

441
00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:36,840
Speaker 3: a woman was naked, and you're like, well, we're judged.

442
00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:39,680
Speaker 3: We're judging this woman as the most beautiful woman in America,

443
00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:43,119
Speaker 3: you know. But it's like, as long as you're in

444
00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:45,160
Speaker 3: a bikinian, that's covering those nipples.

445
00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:49,640
Speaker 2: If not, you're just a whore, you know what I mean. Well,

446
00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:50,760
Speaker 2: someone also.

447
00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:55,760
Speaker 3: At the root wrote Dimitrio Lucas Dale oile. However, not right,

448
00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:59,400
Speaker 3: de oile. She wrote, the Miss America pageant doesn't over

449
00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:02,880
Speaker 3: and that's a william An apology. I turned the four

450
00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:07,600
Speaker 3: year Vanessa Williams I turned for the year I turned four,

451
00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:11,200
Speaker 3: the year Vanessa Williams's crowned Miss America. I don't actually

452
00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:14,000
Speaker 3: remember the pageant or even subsequad drama when she was

453
00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:15,480
Speaker 3: asked to resign ten months later.

454
00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:18,199
Speaker 2: I just heard a lot about it. Growing up.

455
00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:21,240
Speaker 3: I got to gest Williams was a black first, and

456
00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:23,239
Speaker 3: it was a big deal. From what I gathered from

457
00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:25,440
Speaker 3: the elders around me. The way they, meaning the Miss

458
00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:28,679
Speaker 3: America organization did her forcing her to resign was racist.

459
00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:32,440
Speaker 3: That magazine, meaning Penthouse, never should have done that to

460
00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:35,160
Speaker 3: that girl and publish those pictures, meaning the new photos

461
00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:38,320
Speaker 3: of Williams taken before she became Miss America. Williams Penhouse

462
00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:41,200
Speaker 3: issue went on to become the magazine's highest single selling

463
00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:42,000
Speaker 3: issue of all time.

464
00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:44,400
Speaker 2: Williams did not authorize the publication of those photos.

465
00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:47,080
Speaker 3: Over the weekend, I saw a random story on TMZ

466
00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:49,879
Speaker 3: about some behind the scenes fuss at the twenty sixteen

467
00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:53,280
Speaker 3: Miss America pageant, which Vanessa Williams was going to attend.

468
00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:54,760
Speaker 2: There was allegedly some.

469
00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:58,359
Speaker 3: Question about whether she would apologize to the Miss America

470
00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:02,320
Speaker 3: organization for embarrassing the organization, or the organization would instead

471
00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:05,199
Speaker 3: apologize to Williams for asking her to resign thirty two

472
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:05,680
Speaker 3: years ago.

473
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:07,840
Speaker 2: The organization ultimately apologized.

474
00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:10,879
Speaker 3: During last night's pageant broadcast, Miss America CEO Sam Haskell

475
00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:16,680
Speaker 3: invited Williams on stage apologize to her, knowing that I

476
00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:19,760
Speaker 3: will be likely be reamed for saying this because Williams

477
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:22,159
Speaker 3: is a challenged actress, singer, beloved celebrity, especially in the

478
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:22,760
Speaker 3: black community.

479
00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:24,040
Speaker 2: I'm saying it anyway.

480
00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:26,440
Speaker 3: She deserved to be forced to resign, and Miss America

481
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:30,320
Speaker 3: organization didn't owe her apology. The organization's reaction to williams

482
00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:33,520
Speaker 3: pictures wasn't overblown in the eighties, and those images should

483
00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:36,920
Speaker 3: garner her about a similar reaction today. The organizations reaction

484
00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:39,960
Speaker 3: also was not racist. The fact that Williams's replacement suits

485
00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:42,879
Speaker 3: that Charles was also black kind of kills that argument.

486
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:46,080
Speaker 2: How did I reach this baffling conclusion. I'm glad you asked.

487
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,840
Speaker 3: Honestly, I hadn't thought about Williams Miss America scan on

488
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:51,679
Speaker 3: over a decade. Despite her reignation, Williams is often referred

489
00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:54,120
Speaker 3: to as the first black Miss America, but a long

490
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:59,359
Speaker 3: list of additional and great greater professional treatments, including multiple Grammy, Emmy,

491
00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:03,320
Speaker 3: Antonia Awards nods, and several NAACP Awards, is overshadowed the

492
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:05,160
Speaker 3: best and worst of her ten month rain.

493
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:07,320
Speaker 2: When I think of Williams, I don't think scandal.

494
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:09,880
Speaker 3: I think of her hit single Save the Bast for Last,

495
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,240
Speaker 3: or her acting roles and soul food and ugly Betty.

496
00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:15,919
Speaker 4: Four Dogs Ahead, I'm go ahead and finish.

497
00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:16,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the thing.

498
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:18,920
Speaker 4: I'm trying to get mad because baby, you was a

499
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,320
Speaker 4: little kid, so you know it's.

500
00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:22,880
Speaker 2: Not the saying yeah.

501
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:25,359
Speaker 3: Also, you know this author is completely thinking about it

502
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:30,080
Speaker 3: only from her perspective, right, because like her mom was there,

503
00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:31,800
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, what do you think her

504
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:35,160
Speaker 3: mom thinks, or not just her mom, but women her age,

505
00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:37,840
Speaker 3: her mom's age that were black, that it was a

506
00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:39,400
Speaker 3: big deal at the time.

507
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:46,120
Speaker 2: Anyway, So she says, uh, perhaps that's just generational thing. Anyway.

508
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:48,960
Speaker 3: With the news of Miss America's potential apologies still on

509
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:51,280
Speaker 3: the horizon, I finally looked up some of the images

510
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:53,280
Speaker 3: that caused such a big fuss all those years ago.

511
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:56,639
Speaker 3: I was expecting typical artsy news of anello celebration of

512
00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:59,280
Speaker 3: the female form that is often called art when white

513
00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:01,560
Speaker 3: women expressed it, but called vulgar when black women tried

514
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 3: to say it was the eighties, Reagan was in office,

515
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:07,879
Speaker 3: people overreacting to everything. Given all we've seen by now,

516
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:09,879
Speaker 3: I didn't expect it to raise the eyebrow. So I

517
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:12,440
Speaker 3: googled and found what I was looking for. All those

518
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 3: images flipped the whole narrative that I had in my

519
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:18,000
Speaker 3: head about William's resnation, despite the massive Penthouse sales. I

520
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:21,160
Speaker 3: don't think most people have seen Williams images. They weren't

521
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:23,359
Speaker 3: readily available in the eighties. It's not as if they

522
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:25,720
Speaker 3: were shown on the nightly news, nor could you pull

523
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:27,880
Speaker 3: them up on your mobile phone. You have to get

524
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,480
Speaker 3: a copy of the magazine, which a lot of people did,

525
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:32,960
Speaker 3: and even more people did not. Even now, I found

526
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,160
Speaker 3: a lot of people had no ideato what that photos

527
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:39,760
Speaker 3: actually depict. Well, that's weird because on two fronts. Right

528
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:43,160
Speaker 3: on the one front, it's twenty fifteen. Everybody can see

529
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:45,920
Speaker 3: the photos now, and they apologize in twenty fifteen. It's

530
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,720
Speaker 3: not like they apologize in eighty four, you know what

531
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:51,000
Speaker 3: I mean, when nobody could see it, Like now everybody

532
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:55,520
Speaker 3: can see it. So if people can see it and

533
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:59,480
Speaker 3: still have decided, yeah, I don't care whatever they look like.

534
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 3: I still feel like a woman being sexually expressive, or

535
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:10,200
Speaker 3: a woman being naked or even having a sex tape

536
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 3: doesn't mean she's, you know, to be thrown away.

537
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:17,120
Speaker 2: It's like, is that such a revolutionary thing to say?

538
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 3: Not all of Williams pictures are extra, but the ones

539
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:22,920
Speaker 3: that are I'll say this, the images ran and Playhouse

540
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:24,159
Speaker 3: not pen House, not.

541
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 2: Playboy, and with good reason.

542
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 3: Williams photos are not just standard TNA and there's full

543
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:33,960
Speaker 3: frontal and dominatrix action. There are amazing simulated There are

544
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 3: images as simulated or sex, but Donnad's book Sex was

545
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:40,119
Speaker 3: probably less titulating. To be clear, I take no issue

546
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:43,600
Speaker 3: with sex between concenting the dolts, including LGBT, especially of

547
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 3: sexuality between consenting adults, or even private photos of sex

548
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:50,120
Speaker 3: sexuality between consenting the dots. But when you're of any

549
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:54,439
Speaker 3: color face of a family friend or friendlyization such as

550
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:55,160
Speaker 3: Miss America.

551
00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,360
Speaker 2: Miss America is a family friendly organization, now I feel

552
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 2: like that. I feel like that's.

553
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:07,399
Speaker 4: The whole concept of padancy. Padricy is family friended, family friendly.

554
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:11,680
Speaker 2: It feels like it's a bit presumptuous to assume that

555
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 2: because they say that, we agree with that.

556
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 3: I've always felt like they were selling sex, even when

557
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:20,639
Speaker 3: I was a kid. I'm now clearly they're selling this idea.

558
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:22,720
Speaker 2: That these women are you.

559
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 4: Know, sex right, be googled and and yeah, and they

560
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 4: have bathing suits and ship like that.

561
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 3: You might send them out to read to kids. But

562
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 3: the discussion that most people have about these women in

563
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 3: general is on something like did you see Miss Kansas?

564
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 4: Like, you know what I mean, And that's fine if

565
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 4: that's what they choose to do, but don't ignore that

566
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 4: and act like, you know, parents are just cool with that,

567
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 4: you know, with their son watching. Yeah, I mean just

568
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 4: children watching, not even sons or daughters. You know, some

569
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 4: parents are cool to some parents. That's that's too provocative

570
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 4: for my child.

571
00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 3: Uh So let's see what else happened, such as Miss

572
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 3: America and those racy photos that you took become public.

573
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 3: Your images no longer on the line with the mission,

574
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 3: in line with the mission or the organization. Her image

575
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 3: didn't fit the position she held images matter. Ask anyone

576
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 3: on Instagram. I don't know that that's supposed to right people.

577
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 2: Well, you know it's funny with that though. She went

578
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 2: from like nobody saw it, so what's the So that's

579
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 2: obviously what the well, if nobody saw it, didn't, what's

580
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:26,959
Speaker 2: the point. What's this big deal? Now?

581
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 3: It's like, oh, anybody on Instagram, everybody seen it. Yes,

582
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 3: Williams was barely legal when those pictures are taken. I

583
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,560
Speaker 3: read in the nineteen eighty four article on People magazine,

584
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 3: and she naively believed that the images would be in

585
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 3: silhouette and her face would not be shown. Williams was

586
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:42,920
Speaker 3: a young girl, made a series of bad decisions. She

587
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 3: did tis you, She did two new photo shoots, not one,

588
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 3: and the cost was being asked to step down as

589
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 3: Miss America. It was a hard way to learn the

590
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 3: less necessary lesson about acts of consequences. There was no

591
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 3: need for the Miss America organization to apologize for teaching

592
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 3: it to her.

593
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 4: You know what. To me, all, I think that this

594
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 4: is when of them hot takes, like this is what's

595
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 4: happening now, And I got to say the opposite because, like,

596
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 4: in my opinion out you were four, Like like that's

597
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 4: like how it impacts you and how it impacts somebody

598
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 4: else who was older or around at the time, it's

599
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 4: completely different. So I could see her disconnect from it. Yeah,

600
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 4: but I'm like, at that time it was a fucking

601
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 4: huge deal.

602
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 2: Yeah. It's weird too because this guy only eight comments.

603
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 3: Uh. She's a life coach, the author of Don't Waste

604
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,480
Speaker 3: Your Pretty, The go to guy for making smarter decisions

605
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 3: and love and Life, as well a Bell and Brooklyn,

606
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 3: the go to guy for advice on living your best

607
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 3: single life.

608
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 2: So it seems like this is her.

609
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:43,040
Speaker 4: Her thing, you know, right to tell you know, women

610
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 4: that you ain't shitting how you need to change and

611
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 4: evolve and grow.

612
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, don't.

613
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, don't waste your pretty as the much to test

614
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 3: paid data in that relationship manifesto for author life coach

615
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 3: Dimitri l Lucas Lucas, Uh, yeah, you're.

616
00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 4: Making your own opinion, and you just saying that her

617
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 4: doing this was a bad choice, says you. But you

618
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 4: know that's the choice that she decided to make, and honestly,

619
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 4: truth be told, I think, and I applaud them for apologizing.

620
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 4: Do you know how many people say, fuck it, nigga,

621
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 4: I'm not apologizing to you. Yeah, they fucked up back then,

622
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 4: but fuck it.

623
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:20,240
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, like I said, I understand both sides.

624
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 3: I understand in eighty four of them being like this

625
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 3: is too much, because in eighty four it felt like

626
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 3: too much.

627
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 2: I don't know what else to say.

628
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 3: But eighty four was not as we didn't have the Internet,

629
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 3: we didn't have fucking porn in our fingertails, we didn't

630
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 3: have you know, fucking the biggest It's like the word,

631
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 3: It's like America is stealing, denial about how big of

632
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 3: a sex freak it was, and then now with the

633
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 3: advent of internet porn, the fucking you know, Kim Kardashian

634
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 3: is one of the most popular biggest stars on the planet,

635
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 3: you know, uh, and has a sex tape.

636
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 2: You know, fucking love and hip hop has people with

637
00:31:59,240 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 2: sex tape.

638
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 3: All that He's going like, It's like, I just think

639
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 3: the taboo of some risk a pictures are just not

640
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 3: what it used to be.

641
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:08,720
Speaker 2: And even with.

642
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 3: The new photo league that happened last year early this year,

643
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 3: remember all those actresses and actors that you know got

644
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 3: exposed quote unquote, I just think it's not what it

645
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 3: used to be. Like people are just like like and

646
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 3: that's actually a I know that the exposure was very

647
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 3: fucked up, but the reaction to it is kind of good.

648
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 2: It was kind of cool.

649
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 3: Like Jennifer Lawrence still demands top dollar when she goes

650
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:41,720
Speaker 3: in for a role despite us seeing her titties and all.

651
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 2: This shit on the internet, because it's like, yeah, that

652
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 2: has nothing.

653
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 4: To do with what the fuck my job is, right,

654
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 4: and life goes on.

655
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like back in the day that would

656
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 3: have happened to be like oh no, Hunger Games three.

657
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 2: We gotta delay it. We gotta get a new actress,

658
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 2: we gotta do this over.

659
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Speaker 3: Little girls look up to this role. It's a PG

660
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Speaker 3: thirteen movie. So I just feel like twenty fifteen is

661
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Speaker 3: just this is just showing how sensibilities have changed, and

662
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 3: we're just not as in some ways, we're not as

663
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Speaker 3: regressive on things like this as we used to be.

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Speaker 4: Correct. There are a lot of people that still are,

665
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Speaker 4: but yes, correct.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So I don't have an issue with it. I'm

667
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Speaker 2: glad to apologize me too, you know.

668
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Speaker 4: And I'm glad he bought her mama into that because

669
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Speaker 4: you do have to think that defects the whole family.

670
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Speaker 4: It's like her getting attacked like that at a young age,

671
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Speaker 4: you know, all the side. Not only was she attacked,

672
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Speaker 4: I couldn't even imagine her parents, you know, being attacked

673
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Speaker 4: and you know how you raised his daughter, Your daughters

674
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Speaker 4: are like really attacking them as a family. Like her

675
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Speaker 4: decisions as an adult just was is on them.

676
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

677
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Speaker 3: I really was surprised she was able to make a

678
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Speaker 3: career after that, just because the scandal was so large

679
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Speaker 3: or looming around her. But you know, you know, maybe

680
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Speaker 3: it because I was younger, but as an adult, I'm

681
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Speaker 3: just like, yeah, okay, you.

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Speaker 11: Know what I mean.

683
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Speaker 3: Pamela Anderson Lee or whatever she was, they had a

684
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Speaker 3: sex tape. It's not like it's just not the end

685
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Speaker 3: of the world for people anymore.

686
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Speaker 7: Uh.

687
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 2: And and it really never should have been, honestly.

688
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 3: Mexican American actress Jessica Album launched his beauty line at

689
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Speaker 3: Trump Hotel.

690
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:22,799
Speaker 2: Hmm at Trump Hotel, what did he have to say?

691
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Speaker 3: Feel like Trump has said some things that might cause

692
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Speaker 3: somebody that's Mexican American and not want to fun with him,

693
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Speaker 3: but not Jessica's album. Now, she the same person that

694
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Speaker 3: was had that that cream that she got in trouble

695
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,400
Speaker 3: for selling where it was fucking people up?

696
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Speaker 1: Is that her?

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Speaker 4: Sure? But yeah, somebody got shot. I'm not sure it

698
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Speaker 4: was her, but somebody we talked about because the they

699
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Speaker 4: was selling some ship and people was like, this ship.

700
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Speaker 4: Don't do what you said you're supposed to do.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Well, she launched her new beauty line at Trump Hotel.

703
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Speaker 4: Uh.

704
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Speaker 3: Uh. She's thirty four, famous for her roles and a

705
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Speaker 3: fantastic four in Sin City. She launched her oh Man

706
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:04,439
Speaker 3: and that that TV show Angel I used to watch

707
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Speaker 3: that was a good show. Launch her Honest Beauty Cosmetics

708
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 3: and skin Link. Yeah, it was her skincare line on

709
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Speaker 3: Wednesday night at the Trump Soho Hotel in Manhattan. Album

710
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Speaker 3: co hosted, I mean co founded honest company would sells

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Speaker 3: diaper's body.

712
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Speaker 2: And bad products.

713
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Speaker 3: And just last week, uh, the company was hit with

714
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Speaker 3: the lawsuit over claims that the sunscreen is de facto. Okay,

715
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Speaker 3: so she was, But as far as I know, nobody's

716
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Speaker 3: brought up a less burning if you will, was still

717
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Speaker 3: troubling Jessica album business related question, why would you choose

718
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Speaker 3: to hold an event for anything in any place associated

719
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Speaker 3: with Donald Trump?

720
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Speaker 2: Why would anyone do that?

721
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Speaker 3: The nice thing about the Donald is that he is

722
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Speaker 3: such a renaissience man of hate. You don't have to

723
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Speaker 3: be Latino to be offended by him. Indeed, model Crystal

724
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Speaker 3: Chrissy Tingent, how Tigan, actors Jeffrey Wright, Aaron Paul Rose, o' donald,

725
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Speaker 3: singer Neil Young, and rapper Floor Rider, but a few

726
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:03,360
Speaker 3: of the non Latino Natino celebrities who have condemned the mogul.

727
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 3: But Trump's sexism and more generalized racism pale In comparison

728
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Speaker 3: to his anti immigrant and particularly anti Latino, even more

729
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Speaker 3: particularly anti Mexican vitriol and policy plans. Among Trump's high

730
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Speaker 3: profile Latino critics, journalist Jorge Ramos was has been dubbed

731
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Speaker 3: the Walter Cronkite of Latino America is probably the most

732
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Speaker 3: politically in foreign to grounded. But you don't have to

733
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Speaker 3: be an immigrants rights advocate intellectual to be upset by

734
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Speaker 3: what Trump has to say about Mexican's and Latinos, which

735
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Speaker 3: is why actors Eva Longoria, samahayak America Ferrera, comedian George Lopez,

736
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Speaker 3: singer Shakira, Ricky Martin.

737
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:43,840
Speaker 2: And rapper Pittbull have criticized Trump.

738
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Speaker 3: Jessica Alba has been accused of distance in herself from

739
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 3: her Latino identity over comments like Albert is my last name,

740
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 3: and I'm proud of that, but that's it. My grandparents

741
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 3: were born in California, the same as my parents, and

742
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Speaker 3: though I may be proud of my last name, I'm

743
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Speaker 3: American and I had a.

744
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Speaker 2: Very American ringing. I feel American.

745
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Speaker 3: I don't speak Spanish, so to say that I'm a

746
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 3: Latin actress, okay, but it's not fitting.

747
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Speaker 2: It would be insincere.

748
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Speaker 3: And my grandfather was the only Mexican at my at

749
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Speaker 3: his college, the only Hispanic person at work, and the

750
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Speaker 3: only one at an all white country club. He tried

751
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Speaker 3: to forget his Mexican rules because he never wanted his

752
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 3: kids to be made to feel different in America. He

753
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Speaker 3: and my grandmother didn't speak Spanish to their children. Now

754
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 3: is the third integration American. I feel as if I

755
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:27,319
Speaker 3: finally cut loose. The last quote is bad.

756
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:29,800
Speaker 2: First two I was like, hey, I could see that,

757
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:31,959
Speaker 2: and then the third when I was like, oh shit,

758
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Speaker 2: can't be.

759
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:34,840
Speaker 4: I know people weren't happy about that.

760
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Speaker 2: Yeah, well I can't catch them all.

761
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Speaker 4: And I understand why because she's like it, I'm not.

762
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Speaker 3: Mexican, apparently apparently not man, which you know, kinda kind

763
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Speaker 3: of disheartening, but I guess once it comes to race, Jessica,

764
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Speaker 3: I was just a invisible woman. Stephen co Cobart wore

765
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Speaker 3: a Black Lives Matter bracelet on The Lake Show. Yay

766
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:06,920
Speaker 3: and other news Stephen Colbert's Lake Show had started.

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Speaker 7: M hm.

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Speaker 3: I wonder how that's gonna affect rageous for the Nightly Show,

769
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Speaker 3: the Daily Show and all that stuff.

770
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Speaker 4: Right, because you know, so many people love him that

771
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Speaker 4: you know, people are going to kind of flock towards

772
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 4: that show, and a lot of people have been waiting

773
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Speaker 4: and anticipating him coming.

774
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Speaker 2: Back to Yeah.

775
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 3: When called upon by Colbert, Black Lives Matter organizer Patrick

776
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Speaker 3: Waldough was already standing up. Waldof spoke up and asked

777
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Speaker 3: I was to promise to wear a bracelet and address

778
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Speaker 3: the issue on area. He said, I'm not promising anything,

779
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Speaker 3: but I will give it some thought. Colbert said hesitantly

780
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Speaker 3: as he met Waldo to try on the bracelet. I

781
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:40,719
Speaker 3: really want to give this one some thought and then

782
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:42,719
Speaker 3: I'll get back to you the bracelet. This bracelet was

783
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:45,880
Speaker 3: made for someone much bigger than myself, he said with

784
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Speaker 3: a smile, immediately putting it on his wrist, resuming the

785
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Speaker 3: question and answering session. If I don't say it on

786
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Speaker 3: tonight's show, I'll work it into one of the next

787
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:55,880
Speaker 3: few episodes. As soon as though, Colbert would ditch his

788
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 3: newly gifted swag for another day. As he adjusted and

789
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Speaker 3: readjusted his bracelet while walking off stage to prepare the

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Speaker 3: Summer eleven September eleventh taping. Upon his return, it was

791
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Speaker 3: clear that Colbert was comfortable endorsing the message concerning the

792
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Speaker 3: civil rights movement of our time.

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Speaker 2: Uh, and they have like pictures of him wearing it

794
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:17,879
Speaker 2: the whole time. So that's dope, man. And of course

795
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 2: Fox News said he fucked up.

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Speaker 4: He shouldn't have done that, all right, but they'ren't like

797
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:25,239
Speaker 4: nothing he does. Everything he does is wrong.

798
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like the least surprising news of the day.

799
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Speaker 3: It was like, and Fox News didn't agree with him

800
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 3: doing that ship what are you crazy lolding up now?

801
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Speaker 4: For years?

802
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:37,399
Speaker 2: Yeah?

803
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:40,840
Speaker 3: Are you really saying Fox News was not comfortable with

804
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 3: Black Lives Matter being endorsed by a white man.

805
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Speaker 2: Mhmm uh. You know we have that coffee, the k

806
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 2: Cup Secure machine, the.

807
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Speaker 4: Best purchase I ever made. I'm not even gonna lie.

808
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 4: I love that thing.

809
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 2: Yep. Karen doesn't even drink coffee, but you can use

810
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Speaker 2: them make tea anything you need hot.

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Speaker 3: Water for, including now yep, I'm lazy, so yes, including

812
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Speaker 3: now Campbell's soup.

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00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:09,400
Speaker 4: I want to I want It's that gonna be like

814
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:11,280
Speaker 4: the cup of noodles.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

816
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Speaker 2: I can put a cap, I can put a picture

817
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:16,320
Speaker 2: of what it's gonna look like.

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00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:18,360
Speaker 4: She's gonna be so salty and nasty.

819
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Speaker 2: Why are you assuming it's the best purchase I ever made? Oh,

820
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Speaker 2: this is gonna suck.

821
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Speaker 3: Well that might not be, but I'm assuming the curric

822
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 3: is now deploying it's environmentally destructive K cup pods to

823
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Speaker 3: make more than watery coffee. According to Bloomberg, the company

824
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Speaker 3: has partner with Campbell's Soup co to offer soup pods

825
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Speaker 3: this March. Carriage first move beyond the beverage space. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and and I guess I have to see because os

827
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Speaker 3: are it's not like coffee, So it's gonna be you know.

828
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Speaker 11: I don't know what.

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Speaker 2: It's definitely not gonna be like coffee.

830
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Speaker 3: Right, So I'm like, well, how you gonna get it

831
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Speaker 3: where the water hits it? And you all of a

832
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Speaker 3: sudden you got instant. Like I said, it's gonna be

833
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Speaker 3: noodles put in a cup and hot water. The hot

834
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:04,880
Speaker 3: water will go through a K cup that is seasoned,

835
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:10,320
Speaker 3: just like coffee seasoned chicken bro Okay, okay, I'm with you.

836
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 3: Now I'm witching noodle.

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00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:13,759
Speaker 2: Soup or a Southwest style chicken noodle soup.

838
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Speaker 4: So you bring your own noodles.

839
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Speaker 3: Yeah, the noodle's coming a little bowl and it's noodle

840
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 3: and vegetable mix and you put that in a cup.

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00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 4: Okay, I'm with you now, like a cup of soup. Okay.

842
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 4: I was thinking something completely different. I was thinking, you like,

843
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 4: like take a cup on noodles and plug it in

844
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Speaker 4: there and let the water run through it.

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Speaker 3: I was like, uh, seventy calories each and free of

846
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Speaker 3: artificial colors and flavors as part of Campbell's new initiative

847
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Speaker 3: to get rid of all products with artificial ingredients by

848
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Speaker 3: twenty eighteen.

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Speaker 4: That's good. I just hope it's not salty. Other than that,

850
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Speaker 4: I'd be good.

851
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 3: Carric hosts the soup pods will mitigate is slumping sales,

852
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 3: which have taken a huge hit over the past few years.

853
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 3: The company sales fail one point four percent in the

854
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 3: last financial quarter alone, and wn EP rights that Carric

855
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 3: plans will lay out three hundred and thirty employees.

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00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:05,319
Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean, because my thing is that uh talking

857
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 4: about you're talking about Currica, Campbell's Campbell's still okay. I

858
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 4: think with them they kind of have flood the market.

859
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:14,879
Speaker 4: And when you have like imitation versions that are cheaper,

860
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:18,799
Speaker 4: not just good quality, but they're cheaper. And I think

861
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:22,839
Speaker 4: too with Uh, the little current cups. Now you can

862
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 4: do generic versions. You can like have it where we

863
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:27,759
Speaker 4: have it, where you can buy a thing and do

864
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 4: the future, so you don't have to continue to purchase

865
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Speaker 4: their brand, which actually is really high, just their brand.

866
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 4: It's extremely high compared to these other versions. And uh,

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Speaker 4: they also end up end up getting sued. We have

868
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Speaker 4: an older version, but the newer versions would actually scan

869
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Speaker 4: and if it wasn't like a curric scan, it wouldn't

870
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Speaker 4: it wouldn't process. So they got sued because people saying, hey,

871
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Speaker 4: you know, I paid two three hundred machine. You can't

872
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 4: force me to do only by your product.

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00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 2: I agree, but we'll see what happens.

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00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 4: Yes, it's like medication. You so you only get a

875
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 4: certain pio of time and after that then market opens up.

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00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 3: Yep, Illinois refuses to make lottery payments, thus hitting the

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Speaker 3: jackpot for outrage. There's a fight bruing to save the

878
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:18,319
Speaker 3: last glimbit of the American dream, the lottery. The fighter

879
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 3: is to preserve what could more actively be called the

880
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 3: insurance policy for the American dream.

881
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:23,799
Speaker 2: Winning the lottery, win all those speils.

882
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:25,279
Speaker 3: As too often does you have the option to spend

883
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:27,360
Speaker 3: money you do not really have on lottery tickets. You

884
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 3: should not really buy in a host that it just

885
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:33,279
Speaker 3: might probably won't pay for the dream you hoped hard

886
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 3: work and the smooth function in the economy will provide,

887
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:37,920
Speaker 3: even though a lot of often ends up funding a

888
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 3: nightmare of robbery's divorce and general burnout from the sudden wealth.

889
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:43,880
Speaker 3: In recent weeks, however, it has come to light that

890
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:47,880
Speaker 3: one state is renegging on this all important obligation. The

891
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:51,359
Speaker 3: Illinois Lottery has stopped paying out prizes of twenty five

892
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:54,359
Speaker 3: thousand dollars or more to winners as lawmakers have yet

893
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:56,720
Speaker 3: to pass a budget for the state, which is about

894
00:43:56,840 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 3: five billion dollars in the red Wow, which is funny

895
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 3: because they started the lottery is supposed to be this

896
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 3: revenue generating scheme, right, but.

897
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:07,320
Speaker 4: But but what happens a lot of times the a

898
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 4: lot of people. A lot of times the money doesn't

899
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:11,920
Speaker 4: go where as supposed to. It don't go to tour

900
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:14,759
Speaker 4: school that don't go towards roads, or if it does,

901
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:18,479
Speaker 4: very very very small percentage does a lot of times

902
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:21,359
Speaker 4: this money goes to fun other shit that they don't

903
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:23,799
Speaker 4: really tell you about, or a lot of that money

904
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:25,759
Speaker 4: goes to pay a lot of people that's running a

905
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 4: lot of these organizations too. And I think that if

906
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 4: you're gonna do that, just stop doing the lottery. Like,

907
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 4: if you're not going to pay people, just stop doing it.

908
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, they over promised the money to different things, like right,

909
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:42,800
Speaker 3: and they start promising money they don't have, which is

910
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 3: so funny because it's like the lotteries depending on a

911
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:50,440
Speaker 3: lottery of sorts, you know, like that enough people will

912
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 3: keep contributing that we will always have this money, uh,

913
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 3: the money for the processes there according to previous statements

914
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 3: from the Illinois Lottery officials, but the legal authority the

915
00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 3: issue the payment is not. It is and it's an

916
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:02,840
Speaker 3: issue that effects only a small number of people in

917
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:04,759
Speaker 3: the state who hit the jack hit a jackpile of

918
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:08,360
Speaker 3: that size. But last week, two of those winners generated

919
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:11,760
Speaker 3: a disproportionate number of headlines and reactions online by filing

920
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:15,280
Speaker 3: a lawsuit against the Illinois Lottery demanding it ceased lottery

921
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 3: ticket sales and make a media payments to the winners.

922
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 3: The suit leads over the possibility to represent other winners

923
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:21,880
Speaker 3: in the waiting and they should.

924
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 4: They should, like if you won fair and square, I

925
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 4: don't give a fuck about you being in the red.

926
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 4: I won just pay me and then quit doing the

927
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 4: fucking lottery.

928
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:32,479
Speaker 3: As Daniel Chastein, one of the lotter winners two hundred

929
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:34,719
Speaker 3: and fifty thousand dollars in his case behind the suit,

930
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:37,160
Speaker 3: explain to the Wall Street Journal, you dream about winning

931
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:38,920
Speaker 3: the lottery all your life. It finally happened, and you

932
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 3: don't get paid. The idea of spending a lifetime dreaming

933
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 3: of winning the lottery is sad enough, but the second

934
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:47,759
Speaker 3: half of the sentence breaks your heart right and you know.

935
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 4: And the thing about it is that if states drop out,

936
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:54,320
Speaker 4: that affects a lot the whole economy that's based around that.

937
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:57,759
Speaker 4: You have, especially between North Carolina and seconds for a

938
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 4: long time. North Carolina just recently, I only think it's

939
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 4: ten years old started a lottery, and but it's been

940
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:06,279
Speaker 4: going for years in South Carolina, and no people literally

941
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 4: cross the border like you would go to like foot

942
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 4: Mill and Rockhill and are you want to fucking gas?

943
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:14,279
Speaker 4: And it was like gas line over here, Nobody The

944
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 4: lottery line is like wrapped around the building in the

945
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:17,719
Speaker 4: corner to the car wash.

946
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 1: Yeah.

947
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 2: What's funny is the edit.

948
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 3: There's uh, there are people in Chicago Tribune had an

949
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 3: editorial or a person where they were like, what is

950
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:29,759
Speaker 3: that You hear that too? Yeah, Chicago Tribune had an

951
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:34,439
Speaker 3: editorial where it was like, hey, how much?

952
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:35,480
Speaker 1: Why?

953
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:37,239
Speaker 3: Why are so many people upset about this? The only

954
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:40,399
Speaker 3: effects a small percentage of people. It's because the entire

955
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:43,959
Speaker 3: lottery is based off of a large percentage of people

956
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:46,719
Speaker 3: thinking they can be in the small percentage of people

957
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:49,000
Speaker 3: that get this money right, So it wouldn't even the

958
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 3: entire organ the entire ordeal would not function without people

959
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 3: feeling that they can win this money right at an

960
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 3: unreasonable rate. Right, So you can't then turn around and

961
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 3: be like, why is everybody so mad? You know why

962
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 3: they're mad, right, and don't act stupid. And what happens

963
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 3: is that y'all fuck around and don't pay them.

964
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:14,279
Speaker 4: People will stop playing, Like if people go where, if

965
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 4: I do here, I won't make no money. Why am

966
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:18,759
Speaker 4: I investing into this? And what's gonna happen is that

967
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 4: people will stop buying, Like if they really fuck around

968
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:26,479
Speaker 4: and wait extensive periods of time, all them scratch match

969
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 4: to double times ten. The ball pinkball, pin pum ball

970
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:32,399
Speaker 4: that bought for the fall on your local news station.

971
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 4: They might wrap all that up because a lot of

972
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 4: people are like, I'm not I don't give a fuck

973
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 4: about the powerball if I never get the powerball.

974
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:39,919
Speaker 3: Yeah.

975
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 2: So anyway, I thought that was interesting that they would

976
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 2: do that. It is fucked up.

977
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:55,319
Speaker 3: And speaking of Illinois, Chicago, uh, Chicago Sun Times had

978
00:47:55,400 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 3: this editorial written by Mary Mitchell, who writes rape case

979
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 3: sends mixed messages on prostitution. A recent case involving a

980
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:08,920
Speaker 3: prostitute and of john is making a mockery of rape victims.

981
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:12,480
Speaker 3: Authorities say Roy Atkins went to backpage dot com and

982
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 3: agreed to pay a prostitute one hundred and eighty dollars

983
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 3: for sex. When an unidentified woman showed up at his

984
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 3: Austin home for the transaction, Atkins allegedly took her to

985
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 3: the bedroom and instead of handing over cash for the gun.

986
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:25,839
Speaker 3: I imagine most prostitutes in this situation would have run

987
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:28,440
Speaker 3: straight to a pimp, But after leaving atkins home, the

988
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:29,800
Speaker 3: unidentified twenty four.

989
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:31,920
Speaker 2: Year old woman called the police as she should.

990
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:34,399
Speaker 3: Akins is now being held on seven hundred and fifty

991
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:37,280
Speaker 3: thousand dollars bail, charged with aggravated criminal sexual assault.

992
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 7: Right.

993
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:40,440
Speaker 3: I don't have one iota sympathy for Akins' plight, but

994
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:42,800
Speaker 3: I'm grateful he isn't being accused of snatching an innocent

995
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 3: woman off the street.

996
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:45,960
Speaker 4: Wow, this fucker committed a crime.

997
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:49,759
Speaker 3: Mostly though, I find this story to serving for one thing,

998
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 3: this is another example of the role backpage dot Com

999
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:54,320
Speaker 3: plays and facilitating prostitution.

1000
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:55,439
Speaker 4: So prostitutes can't get raped.

1001
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 11: Huh.

1002
00:48:56,400 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 3: Cook County shared Tom Dark has wigs an intense battle

1003
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:02,840
Speaker 3: to shut down paid sex ads on the site, setting

1004
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:05,279
Speaker 3: up stings and asking credit card companies to block their

1005
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:08,319
Speaker 3: cars from being used to buy sex ads. We try

1006
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 3: to explain that what this is, that this is a

1007
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:13,319
Speaker 3: highly dangerous act. They go to the website, media, at

1008
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 3: the hotel of people's houses. Things can be very volatile.

1009
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:19,280
Speaker 3: This is not the first time something like this has happened.

1010
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:19,920
Speaker 4: Dark told me.

1011
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:23,040
Speaker 3: Unfortunately, the way this case is being handled makes it

1012
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:25,400
Speaker 3: look like sex trafficking is a legitimate business.

1013
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:31,440
Speaker 2: Here's the thing, uh. Number one, sex trafficking and sex

1014
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:34,799
Speaker 2: work are not. They're not the same thing.

1015
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:35,400
Speaker 6: No, they're not.

1016
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:38,279
Speaker 4: You're talking about somebody willingly and then to somebody that

1017
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:38,840
Speaker 4: is being.

1018
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:42,319
Speaker 3: Forced and I think you gotta stop conflating those two

1019
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:45,640
Speaker 3: if you even want to have the discussion honestly, because

1020
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:48,920
Speaker 3: someone being forced to have sex for a living is

1021
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 3: totally different than someone.

1022
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 2: Going I want to have sex for a living.

1023
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:52,320
Speaker 4: Correct.

1024
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:55,200
Speaker 3: I'm not one of those women who believe rape victims

1025
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:57,800
Speaker 3: are a fault because they dressed to provoculively or misleds

1026
00:49:57,840 --> 00:49:59,319
Speaker 3: some randy guy into thinking it.

1027
00:49:59,360 --> 00:49:59,799
Speaker 2: Was just lucky.

1028
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:00,880
Speaker 4: Get the fuck out of here.

1029
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:02,719
Speaker 3: What are you saying then, But when you agree to

1030
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:04,400
Speaker 3: me the strange man in a strange place for the

1031
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:06,799
Speaker 3: purpose of having strange sex for money, you are putting

1032
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:07,879
Speaker 3: yourself at risk for harm.

1033
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:12,359
Speaker 4: A lot of women have sex with strangers for free.

1034
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 4: So if I do it for free, I can report

1035
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:17,400
Speaker 4: that he try to rape me. But if I'm asking

1036
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:20,560
Speaker 4: for a return of self for money, it's a problem. Right.

1037
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:25,279
Speaker 3: You know what I like about this is it it

1038
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:28,880
Speaker 3: also says you're putting yourself at risk for harm. If

1039
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:31,840
Speaker 3: you're a woman with a vagina, you are putting yourself

1040
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 3: at risk for harm. We're leaving the house, breathing right,

1041
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 3: hanging around family members existing.

1042
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 4: It's a problem. Yeah, Like, what are you talking about?

1043
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:44,120
Speaker 3: We all know rape only happens in certain dangerous situations

1044
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:47,200
Speaker 3: and no other time. Right, It's tough to see this

1045
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:51,000
Speaker 3: unidentified prostitute as a victim, Like, could you imagine someone

1046
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:54,760
Speaker 3: writing this editorial about a robbery from Craigslist, not rape,

1047
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:57,719
Speaker 3: just a robbery because that happens a lot too. Well,

1048
00:50:57,719 --> 00:50:59,360
Speaker 3: you're hear it in the paper where it's like so

1049
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 3: and so Karen Craigslist and was rob and then could

1050
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 3: you imagine someone like, well, the reason this person got

1051
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 3: shot is because they sold that Karin Craigslist.

1052
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:10,440
Speaker 2: Craigslist needs to stop allowing people to sell.

1053
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:13,080
Speaker 3: Shit like this, Like people would be like people would

1054
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:15,840
Speaker 3: laugh at that article, like are you fucking stupid? Like no,

1055
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:18,719
Speaker 3: the criminal is the only person that faught here, right,

1056
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 3: the other person trusted the system of commerce. It's tough

1057
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:27,480
Speaker 3: to see this unidentified prostitute as a victim, right, Like,

1058
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:28,040
Speaker 3: like I.

1059
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:30,840
Speaker 4: Said, you don't think prostitutes can get rape. For the

1060
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:33,359
Speaker 4: fact that you decide that you want to take your

1061
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 4: body and sell it for a profit, all of a sudden,

1062
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:39,239
Speaker 4: you are less than human. Basically you you you don't

1063
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:42,040
Speaker 4: you you just you don't not deserve rights and whatever

1064
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 4: happens to you happens to you because you should have

1065
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:47,360
Speaker 4: been intelligent enough to know about it.

1066
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:49,320
Speaker 3: And that's and that's and this is why it's in

1067
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 3: our country. I think prostitutions should be legal. I think

1068
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 3: it should be legal. You should be able to uh

1069
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:57,440
Speaker 3: do it. You say, they should be able to have

1070
00:51:57,560 --> 00:51:59,719
Speaker 3: health care, they should be able to get screened for free.

1071
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 3: They should be able to work in businesses like well,

1072
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:06,319
Speaker 3: it is legal some places, yes, you know what I mean,

1073
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:11,360
Speaker 3: like Reno, Nevada, or or wherever the fucking ranch is.

1074
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 4: And it's safer. It's safer for the women, it's safer

1075
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:16,800
Speaker 4: for the johns, and you reduce a lot of this bullshit.

1076
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:20,319
Speaker 3: So she also says that because this incident is being

1077
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:22,520
Speaker 3: charged as a criminal sexual assault when it's actually more

1078
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 3: like a theft of services, it minimizes the act of

1079
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 3: rape because you know.

1080
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:29,080
Speaker 2: It doesn't feel like rape if you're a prostitute.

1081
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:32,160
Speaker 3: It just feels like you're being robbed because it's not

1082
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 3: like your actual body is being Ah wait, yeah, it

1083
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:38,880
Speaker 3: is your actual body. What is she talking about? Earlier

1084
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:40,920
Speaker 3: this month, we saw what a rape victim looks like.

1085
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:44,720
Speaker 3: Now that sentence is so fucked up. Wow, so literally

1086
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:45,840
Speaker 3: you're not a rape victim.

1087
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:48,359
Speaker 4: I mean, come on, this is a rape victim. Yeah,

1088
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:52,160
Speaker 4: somebody is a pure virgin who's never been touched by

1089
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:56,480
Speaker 4: a man before. What the fuck are you talking about? Person?

1090
00:52:56,760 --> 00:53:00,359
Speaker 3: Melissa Schuster, twenty six, of Willoughboro was stabbed seventeen times

1091
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:02,600
Speaker 3: and stuff in the fractured nose, broken balls, and eye

1092
00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:04,680
Speaker 3: injuries when she was raped by a man who broke

1093
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:06,240
Speaker 3: it to her home atter demanding cash.

1094
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:09,239
Speaker 2: Well, I mean you.

1095
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:13,040
Speaker 3: Would never say, well, she was robbed of cash and

1096
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 3: robbed of sex. I mean, a real rape victim doesn't

1097
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:19,080
Speaker 3: look like that. A real rape victim as a child,

1098
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 3: you know, like, you would never raise the bar on her.

1099
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 3: What was she doing with her door unlocked or some

1100
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:28,120
Speaker 3: stupid shit like that. After a man hunt, Londale Madison,

1101
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:30,360
Speaker 3: thirty one, of South of Indiana was charge of the

1102
00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:33,879
Speaker 3: attempt at first degree murder, aggravated criminal section saw home

1103
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 3: invasion at ar robbery.

1104
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:36,600
Speaker 5: I saw.

1105
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:38,360
Speaker 3: I like how she didn't put any of the details

1106
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:42,360
Speaker 3: of the woman that was raped that was a prostitute.

1107
00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:45,000
Speaker 3: Why she could have got stabbed seventeen times too, but

1108
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:46,320
Speaker 3: it wouldn't have mattered. She would have been like a

1109
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:50,879
Speaker 3: well whatever she's a prostitute, right, cost your business. Though

1110
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 3: the new news media normally shows rape victims by giving

1111
00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 3: the man anonymity, Shuster told the US Daily Mail she

1112
00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:00,120
Speaker 3: was waving her anonymity because she wanted to make a

1113
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:03,120
Speaker 3: difference in someone else's life. After the Hanus attacked, Shuster

1114
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:05,799
Speaker 3: was less browd on the kitchen floor of her own home.

1115
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:08,240
Speaker 3: Though she suffered life threating injuries, the young woman managed

1116
00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:10,520
Speaker 3: to run to the neighbor's house for help. Shuster did

1117
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:12,640
Speaker 3: nothing to bring about this terrible, terrible ordeal.

1118
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 4: Oh, but the prostitute did for the fact that she's

1119
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:16,800
Speaker 4: a prostitute, right, yeah, Okay.

1120
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:20,160
Speaker 3: Meanwhile, like I said, there's also some other asshole who's

1121
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:21,440
Speaker 3: raised the bar further than you was.

1122
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:24,239
Speaker 2: Like, what was she doing coming home alone that night?

1123
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:26,840
Speaker 2: Why does she have on that dress?

1124
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:27,479
Speaker 4: What time?

1125
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:27,880
Speaker 11: You know?

1126
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:30,640
Speaker 2: Like why was her door unlocked? Why wasn't there Why

1127
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:32,799
Speaker 2: wasn't the alarm on? What was her gun?

1128
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:34,600
Speaker 3: You know, there's a bunch of things not to mention.

1129
00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:38,520
Speaker 3: Victims of sexual assault quite often blame themselves for shit

1130
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 3: that they can't control, right, you know, so you're already

1131
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:44,399
Speaker 3: just driving more people mad, and like the other uh,

1132
00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:46,200
Speaker 3: the other problem with these kind of.

1133
00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:49,120
Speaker 2: Articles, and it's a fallacy that many people hold.

1134
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:51,520
Speaker 3: They feel like when they talk about sexual assault, they're

1135
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:55,960
Speaker 3: talking about one person, and everybody reading this has never

1136
00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 3: been assaulted.

1137
00:54:56,800 --> 00:54:58,160
Speaker 2: They've all had the same time.

1138
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 3: If they have been assalted, it was all all a

1139
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:02,520
Speaker 3: certain type of respectable rate that you look up to,

1140
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:04,879
Speaker 3: and then the rest of them, you know, just fuck

1141
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:08,279
Speaker 3: him the hell right, right anyway, No, no human being

1142
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:10,040
Speaker 3: should have retreated like he treated me. I want to

1143
00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:11,600
Speaker 3: see him put away for a long time so he

1144
00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:13,279
Speaker 3: doesn't see the light of day. Shooter thought the Daily

1145
00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:15,719
Speaker 3: Mail for law enforcement to put what happened to a

1146
00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:18,720
Speaker 3: backpage dot com prostitute on par with a rape victim

1147
00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:19,480
Speaker 3: like Shuster is.

1148
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:24,759
Speaker 2: An insult, says this this idiot, right, so, you know,

1149
00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:27,720
Speaker 2: just par for the course.

1150
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:32,600
Speaker 3: But I thought that was an interesting, fucked up article. Man,

1151
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:35,319
Speaker 3: like you gotta you gotta get raped the right way

1152
00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:39,319
Speaker 3: these days, yep, can't get Oh what kind of rape

1153
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:39,520
Speaker 3: was that?

1154
00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:39,799
Speaker 4: Oh?

1155
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:42,320
Speaker 2: Does it go out? I'm sorry?

1156
00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:47,960
Speaker 4: Oh man, he didn't rip at the right time to

1157
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:50,239
Speaker 4: cut off? Time is two a m all.

1158
00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:55,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sure emotionally the rate was completely different for you. Yeah,

1159
00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:59,200
Speaker 3: it probably wasn't even a violation violation. That's why she

1160
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:01,880
Speaker 3: called the police, right, not her quote unquote pimp.

1161
00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:05,440
Speaker 4: And you're making assumptions that she had a pimp.

1162
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:10,759
Speaker 3: Right right, yep, New Jersey woman that missed the administring

1163
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:11,880
Speaker 3: fatal dick injection.

1164
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:16,720
Speaker 4: Oh oh, so y'all getting some too. They're doing ass shots,

1165
00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:18,399
Speaker 4: saying dick shots? What's happening here?

1166
00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:22,320
Speaker 3: This week, an unlicensed cosmetic surgeon played guilty the reckless

1167
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:25,839
Speaker 3: manslaughter for injecting silicon into a New Jersey man's penis.

1168
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:26,359
Speaker 2: Killing him.

1169
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:28,719
Speaker 3: As part of her plea deal, prosecutors agree to drop

1170
00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:31,600
Speaker 3: additional charges related to legal breasts and buttocks injections she

1171
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:33,919
Speaker 3: allegedly administered while awaiting trial.

1172
00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:40,719
Speaker 4: I have a question, So, I guess the little ass

1173
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:43,160
Speaker 4: you see on the porn shit people actually do click

1174
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:45,520
Speaker 4: on that shit? Well, like we'll make your penis eighteen

1175
00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:46,360
Speaker 4: times larger.

1176
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:48,520
Speaker 2: I feel like that's probably not how he found her.

1177
00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:50,040
Speaker 4: Oh well, how did he find her?

1178
00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:50,799
Speaker 2: First?

1179
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:51,040
Speaker 4: Of all?

1180
00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:53,520
Speaker 3: Number one, yes, people probably do click on those ass

1181
00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:57,080
Speaker 3: But number two, I you probably find out at the

1182
00:56:57,120 --> 00:56:59,719
Speaker 3: Craigslist or maybe he read another article where she got

1183
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:02,960
Speaker 3: them up. I mean these articles where they kill people

1184
00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:05,520
Speaker 3: and make the news. Probably the best advertising they got,

1185
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:09,680
Speaker 3: the true like, you know what it's worth dying. I'm

1186
00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:12,760
Speaker 3: already dead inside with my small penis and little ass,

1187
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:13,720
Speaker 3: and my thing.

1188
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:19,120
Speaker 4: Is it's sensitive. It's most dudes are about they dick.

1189
00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:20,080
Speaker 3: You're not, you know?

1190
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:23,840
Speaker 4: Was it Dann Bortant?

1191
00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:28,840
Speaker 3: Anything for beauty care, anything push it to Apparently, according

1192
00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:30,320
Speaker 3: to police, he could have been gay.

1193
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:30,680
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1194
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:34,240
Speaker 2: According to the Belie Cassier Rivera, my bad.

1195
00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:36,160
Speaker 4: For not being six positive in this situation.

1196
00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:39,480
Speaker 3: According to police, Cassio Rivera thirty eight performed the botched

1197
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:41,560
Speaker 3: penis and larger procedure on the twenty two yo old

1198
00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:45,560
Speaker 3: Justin Street in her home May six. The injection shot

1199
00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:50,840
Speaker 3: directly into streets, bloodstream shooting down, shutting down his organs,

1200
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:53,000
Speaker 3: and he died as a result the following day. A

1201
00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:53,920
Speaker 3: medical examiner.

1202
00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:55,560
Speaker 2: And that's the other thing. You get this ship and

1203
00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:59,120
Speaker 2: you can't go to the prison, I mean to the hospital.

1204
00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:01,720
Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Like, who you gonna go tell?

1205
00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:04,240
Speaker 2: I'm getting sick and I think I'm dying. What happened?

1206
00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:07,600
Speaker 2: I had a legal Oh shit, I don't wanna go jail.

1207
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:11,080
Speaker 2: Uh nothing nothing. I'm just gonna go home and die right.

1208
00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:16,320
Speaker 3: A medical exami later determined Street died from a silicon

1209
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:19,560
Speaker 3: embolism and his death was ruled a homicide. Answering questions

1210
00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:24,000
Speaker 3: from her attorney Olu Coula and the Tula, Rivera on

1211
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:28,360
Speaker 3: Tuesday acknowledged she was not trained as a medical doctor

1212
00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:30,600
Speaker 3: and she has neither trained nor license to.

1213
00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:31,920
Speaker 2: Administer the silicon injection.

1214
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:35,760
Speaker 3: You injected the silicon in to his penis, asex County

1215
00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:40,640
Speaker 3: of Essex County prosecutor reportedly asked Rivera in court on Tuesday, yes,

1216
00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:44,040
Speaker 3: She replied. In exchange for her guilty plea, prosecutors recommended

1217
00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:45,840
Speaker 3: a five year prison centers from Rivera, who is a

1218
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:50,160
Speaker 3: native of Jamaica. All face also faces possible deportation and

1219
00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:52,120
Speaker 3: centizen the schedule October nineteen.

1220
00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:57,360
Speaker 2: Man dying for that dick enlargerent.

1221
00:58:58,440 --> 00:59:01,560
Speaker 4: It's not worth it. Got go ahead and pay the

1222
00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:03,840
Speaker 4: full price, y'all. There are some things you can go

1223
00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:07,120
Speaker 4: cheap on clothes, You can go cheap on shoes, But

1224
00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:10,160
Speaker 4: when it comes to your health, y'all, or you getting

1225
00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:14,840
Speaker 4: any type of alteration to your body, go ahead and

1226
00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:17,000
Speaker 4: pay full price. No discounts.

1227
00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:20,360
Speaker 3: Got hot beef injections into his hot beef injection m

1228
00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:26,320
Speaker 3: and it burnt them to death. Texas health workers turned

1229
00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:30,400
Speaker 3: in an undocumented woman during her gynecological appointment.

1230
00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:34,320
Speaker 2: What you go for your annual and they go, where

1231
00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:37,400
Speaker 2: are your papers? A mother who showed up.

1232
00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:41,640
Speaker 3: At a Texas healthcare clinic for her annual gynecological exam

1233
00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:45,560
Speaker 3: is facing deportation. At the clinic, staffer's called authorities, installed

1234
00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:50,080
Speaker 3: her for installed her for them until they arrived.

1235
00:59:50,240 --> 00:59:51,880
Speaker 4: How can they do that? And how did they know?

1236
00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:54,120
Speaker 2: We'll be right back with your pasts?

1237
00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:54,280
Speaker 7: Men?

1238
00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:56,680
Speaker 2: Missus? Then Zale, this was it.

1239
00:59:58,120 --> 01:00:00,640
Speaker 4: It's not your job to fined if I'm he illegally

1240
01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:05,520
Speaker 4: or not. You're just supposed to perform your services, uh.

1241
01:00:06,640 --> 01:00:07,080
Speaker 2: They said.

1242
01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:13,480
Speaker 3: Blanco Brego and her two daughters were delayed at the

1243
01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:20,360
Speaker 3: Northeast Women's Health Claire Clinic and after scota for several hours.

1244
01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:21,880
Speaker 2: That's what she had to know.

1245
01:00:21,960 --> 01:00:24,800
Speaker 3: It was taking too long, right, you know, like man,

1246
01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:27,480
Speaker 3: I know doctors take a while, but this is getting ridiculous.

1247
01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:29,520
Speaker 2: I mean, do I got something in plicity?

1248
01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:30,040
Speaker 4: Something wrong?

1249
01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:30,640
Speaker 7: Right?

1250
01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:33,080
Speaker 4: It's gonna fall out? What's happening in the over It's

1251
01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:35,520
Speaker 4: gonna bounce like balls what's the tlain please?

1252
01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:41,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like a sting operation. H this is

1253
01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:43,880
Speaker 2: what you're looking forward to if Trump wis guys?

1254
01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:45,240
Speaker 4: Uh so.

1255
01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:48,280
Speaker 2: Yeah. She was held there for a several hours before

1256
01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:51,960
Speaker 2: several before HERICARE workers showed the woman to an examination

1257
01:00:52,120 --> 01:00:54,520
Speaker 2: room where authorities inentered minutes later, and the rest.

1258
01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:57,400
Speaker 4: Of her was this even fucking legal?

1259
01:00:57,640 --> 01:00:59,440
Speaker 3: Like I wonder if she was, like, you know, I

1260
01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:01,120
Speaker 3: had took a because you know how you take your

1261
01:01:01,120 --> 01:01:03,640
Speaker 3: clothes off and put that thing on, right and they

1262
01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:05,520
Speaker 3: bust up and there on you while.

1263
01:01:05,400 --> 01:01:08,640
Speaker 2: You still in the stuffs, like, excuse me, you ain't

1264
01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:10,480
Speaker 2: got no little babies up in there, vagina, do you?

1265
01:01:10,600 --> 01:01:13,880
Speaker 2: Because they asked is legal and you ain't, so lead

1266
01:01:13,960 --> 01:01:14,560
Speaker 2: the babies here.

1267
01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:18,760
Speaker 3: According to Brego's oldest daughter, she washed the Harris County

1268
01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:21,320
Speaker 3: Sheriff's deputies march her mother out of the clinic andcumes

1269
01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:24,640
Speaker 3: how was supposed to get on We're gonna take her downtown.

1270
01:01:24,680 --> 01:01:26,880
Speaker 3: She was in the former Fosse identification. She recalled the

1271
01:01:26,920 --> 01:01:30,920
Speaker 3: deputy saying before adding, she's going to get deported. According

1272
01:01:30,920 --> 01:01:37,280
Speaker 3: to Brego's attorney, Clarissa Regarda Wait, Guagardo Brengo was a

1273
01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:39,960
Speaker 3: first time visitor to the clinic to see her doctor

1274
01:01:40,040 --> 01:01:42,760
Speaker 3: with whom she had a previous relationship. After giving the

1275
01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:44,880
Speaker 3: clinic workers of fake drivers like, she was told to

1276
01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:49,280
Speaker 3: wait as unknownst to her, authorities were called. Riardo's attorney

1277
01:01:50,120 --> 01:01:54,240
Speaker 3: believes that the clinic workers may have violated medical privacy laws.

1278
01:01:54,120 --> 01:01:55,800
Speaker 4: Right like, how can you do that?

1279
01:01:56,520 --> 01:01:59,160
Speaker 3: They took her laws, They took her into the examination

1280
01:01:59,280 --> 01:02:02,240
Speaker 3: room solely for the purpose of being arrested. She said

1281
01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:05,400
Speaker 3: in the interview, I just have a hard time with that.

1282
01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:09,000
Speaker 3: I think it's a violation of hippolaws, right like, this

1283
01:02:09,160 --> 01:02:09,840
Speaker 3: is not your job.

1284
01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:12,400
Speaker 4: Your job is not to find out if I'm legally

1285
01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:15,400
Speaker 4: here or not. This is not your job. This is

1286
01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:18,360
Speaker 4: not your jurisdiction. And you wasted my time.

1287
01:02:18,840 --> 01:02:22,040
Speaker 3: She's been held on thirty five thousand dollars bond and

1288
01:02:22,160 --> 01:02:24,439
Speaker 3: the words she may be deportitive convicted on a fellow

1289
01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:26,440
Speaker 3: in e charge of tempering with the government record because

1290
01:02:26,440 --> 01:02:28,680
Speaker 3: she also has a fake Social Security card in her purse.

1291
01:02:29,240 --> 01:02:33,240
Speaker 3: When pressed by the Houston Press, if it is the

1292
01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:36,760
Speaker 3: clinic's policy to contract contact authorities established the sect the

1293
01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:40,680
Speaker 3: patients of being undocumented immigrants Memorial Herman, the parent company

1294
01:02:40,880 --> 01:02:45,280
Speaker 3: of Northwest Women's Healthcare spokeswoman Alex Luisen answered, as you know,

1295
01:02:45,680 --> 01:02:48,240
Speaker 3: because of a patient privacy I'm unable to provide comment.

1296
01:02:48,320 --> 01:02:51,320
Speaker 4: Oh fuck you right now is patient privacy, But it

1297
01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:53,680
Speaker 4: wasn't patient privacy for you to waste their time. And

1298
01:02:53,800 --> 01:02:57,760
Speaker 4: you know what I can guarantee you anybody else, even

1299
01:02:57,840 --> 01:03:01,120
Speaker 4: if I was born and raised here and I'll Latino dissent,

1300
01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:03,760
Speaker 4: I would stop going to your fucking clinic. I would

1301
01:03:03,760 --> 01:03:05,880
Speaker 4: probably out side fuck you.

1302
01:03:06,280 --> 01:03:08,600
Speaker 3: That's the thing that's scared to me is this is

1303
01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:12,160
Speaker 3: a place where you go for your health right, you

1304
01:03:12,280 --> 01:03:13,800
Speaker 3: know what I mean. It's a place that you do

1305
01:03:14,040 --> 01:03:19,200
Speaker 3: need that confidentiality and trust and you know they suspect

1306
01:03:19,280 --> 01:03:21,640
Speaker 3: you of whatever, and they can just be like fuck that.

1307
01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:25,600
Speaker 4: No more so, Denni's not privacy no more. You don't.

1308
01:03:25,680 --> 01:03:28,360
Speaker 4: You don't get the right to privacy for that. Yeah,

1309
01:03:28,720 --> 01:03:31,040
Speaker 4: let the police do their job. You're not the police officers.

1310
01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:32,880
Speaker 4: Suppose something would have happened as a woman that would

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Speaker 4: have got violent, not trying to be fund her anything,

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Speaker 4: because you don't have the authorization to hold her like that,

1313
01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:40,280
Speaker 4: Lin that you held her illegally against her will.

1314
01:03:41,120 --> 01:03:46,880
Speaker 2: Yep, like that that seemed like a breaking the law right.

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Speaker 4: And you don't see anything wrong with that? And I

1316
01:03:49,560 --> 01:03:51,520
Speaker 4: guarantee you this is probably not think first time this

1317
01:03:51,600 --> 01:03:52,760
Speaker 4: fucking clinic has done this.

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Speaker 3: Uh, this is one of the older things I wanted

1319
01:03:55,400 --> 01:03:58,040
Speaker 3: to cover by. Do brands benefit from making a scene

1320
01:03:58,120 --> 01:04:03,200
Speaker 3: on social media? When Tenders tweet stormed at a Vanity

1321
01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:06,200
Speaker 3: Fair writer, it left many people of god Bandy Fair's

1322
01:04:06,280 --> 01:04:08,720
Speaker 3: Nancy Joe Sales had written a story on the uglier

1323
01:04:08,760 --> 01:04:11,040
Speaker 3: ceed your side of tenders used for Solis look ups,

1324
01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:12,880
Speaker 3: but it wasn't anything shocking.

1325
01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:15,280
Speaker 2: Was a company really sweating a story that stated the obvious?

1326
01:04:15,800 --> 01:04:18,160
Speaker 3: It was. Dozens of media outlets, including The New York

1327
01:04:18,200 --> 01:04:20,800
Speaker 3: Times and NBC News, wrote about the dating app semingly

1328
01:04:20,920 --> 01:04:23,560
Speaker 3: off the cuff outburst in response to a week old,

1329
01:04:23,680 --> 01:04:26,960
Speaker 3: unflattering magazine piece. Much speculation centered on what sort of

1330
01:04:27,040 --> 01:04:30,000
Speaker 3: delirium had caught hold a tender HQ to lead such

1331
01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:34,040
Speaker 3: an embarrassing episode. The tender social media manager wakes up

1332
01:04:34,120 --> 01:04:36,040
Speaker 3: hungover on this couch, crust the piece on his chests.

1333
01:04:36,080 --> 01:04:40,360
Speaker 3: He had six thousand Twitter notifications, said Jason o' gilbert,

1334
01:04:40,440 --> 01:04:42,920
Speaker 3: a joke he made on Twitter. But the brand's public

1335
01:04:43,000 --> 01:04:45,320
Speaker 3: tantrum seem to have been more calculated than it appear.

1336
01:04:45,360 --> 01:04:50,440
Speaker 3: BuzzFeed reporter Claudia Coroner said she received a belated email

1337
01:04:50,520 --> 01:04:52,880
Speaker 3: pitch from public relations firm Rogers and Cohen just as

1338
01:04:52,920 --> 01:04:54,480
Speaker 3: Tend to find out his final tweet.

1339
01:04:54,840 --> 01:04:56,800
Speaker 2: It was a brief note alerting her that the company

1340
01:04:56,840 --> 01:04:59,480
Speaker 2: would be arguing with the magazine. Tend to decline to

1341
01:04:59,520 --> 01:05:00,440
Speaker 2: comment on acclaim.

1342
01:05:01,160 --> 01:05:04,000
Speaker 4: So they did it on purpose, right, There's a lot

1343
01:05:04,080 --> 01:05:06,720
Speaker 4: of shit that comes out this quote unquote scandals. It's

1344
01:05:06,800 --> 01:05:08,400
Speaker 4: just to get people to talk about this ship.

1345
01:05:09,080 --> 01:05:11,200
Speaker 3: Uh, yes, she says, I got I in fact, got

1346
01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:13,400
Speaker 3: a pitch from a PR person that Tender was about

1347
01:05:13,440 --> 01:05:15,640
Speaker 3: to tweet storm and I should watch for it.

1348
01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:17,240
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1349
01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:21,560
Speaker 3: So, and this just goes back to what I was saying, man,

1350
01:05:23,120 --> 01:05:27,320
Speaker 3: once they realized how much attention you can get from Twitter,

1351
01:05:28,080 --> 01:05:31,360
Speaker 3: and you cannot convince me that there's a lot of

1352
01:05:31,400 --> 01:05:35,800
Speaker 3: this ship that happens media show on TV, like news shows,

1353
01:05:37,520 --> 01:05:41,240
Speaker 3: brands tweeting crazy shit is not on purpose at this point.

1354
01:05:41,320 --> 01:05:43,000
Speaker 2: They be stupid not to at this point.

1355
01:05:43,960 --> 01:05:49,520
Speaker 3: How do you not at this point, like, if you're

1356
01:05:50,160 --> 01:05:52,880
Speaker 3: in charge of Dynamit's show, how do you not have

1357
01:05:53,040 --> 01:05:55,720
Speaker 3: him hold up a picture with nigger and a picture

1358
01:05:55,760 --> 01:05:58,440
Speaker 3: with the Confederate flag just for the tweets.

1359
01:05:58,520 --> 01:06:01,040
Speaker 4: Right, How do you not have him going to show

1360
01:06:01,080 --> 01:06:03,480
Speaker 4: and says black lives do you know? Does it really matter?

1361
01:06:04,280 --> 01:06:04,480
Speaker 10: Yeah?

1362
01:06:04,680 --> 01:06:05,760
Speaker 4: Like, and not just say it.

1363
01:06:06,560 --> 01:06:09,240
Speaker 3: You need it on a billboard behind him to make

1364
01:06:09,280 --> 01:06:12,960
Speaker 3: a quick snap shot. And then you accompany the company

1365
01:06:13,080 --> 01:06:15,160
Speaker 3: these with the snap shot and.

1366
01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:17,760
Speaker 4: They don't got into meetings, so they understand that shit

1367
01:06:17,960 --> 01:06:18,920
Speaker 4: moves too, right.

1368
01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:21,560
Speaker 3: They have monetized this shit, and I feel like there's

1369
01:06:21,640 --> 01:06:25,840
Speaker 3: no better proof than that right there, Right, So yeah,

1370
01:06:26,040 --> 01:06:26,920
Speaker 3: not surprised at all.

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01:06:28,640 --> 01:06:29,360
Speaker 2: Here's another one.

1372
01:06:29,480 --> 01:06:33,880
Speaker 3: A Muslim flight attendant refused was suspended for refusing to

1373
01:06:33,920 --> 01:06:38,240
Speaker 3: serve alcohol, and she files a federal complaint. A Muslim

1374
01:06:38,280 --> 01:06:41,280
Speaker 3: employee of a US airline has filed a federal complaint

1375
01:06:41,320 --> 01:06:44,320
Speaker 3: alleged she was placed on administrative leave after refusing to

1376
01:06:44,320 --> 01:06:48,240
Speaker 3: serve alcohol for religious reasons. For three years, Charlie Stanley

1377
01:06:48,280 --> 01:06:51,120
Speaker 3: has been a flight attendant with Atlanta based Express Jet Airlines,

1378
01:06:51,440 --> 01:06:53,560
Speaker 3: but two years ago she chose a faith that Since

1379
01:06:53,560 --> 01:06:55,880
Speaker 3: the tax on September eleven, two thousand and one, has

1380
01:06:55,960 --> 01:06:59,680
Speaker 3: often been the subject of controversy in American Airport Airports Islam.

1381
01:07:00,120 --> 01:07:03,840
Speaker 3: Stanley's conversion by an outward change. She started wearing a

1382
01:07:03,920 --> 01:07:06,920
Speaker 3: heye job but the fortieth but the forty year old

1383
01:07:06,960 --> 01:07:09,080
Speaker 3: flight attendant also felt that her new faith re vented

1384
01:07:09,120 --> 01:07:12,040
Speaker 3: her from fulfilling what some might consider a fundamental part

1385
01:07:12,080 --> 01:07:16,520
Speaker 3: of the job, serving alcohol. Okay, well, I mean as

1386
01:07:16,560 --> 01:07:21,160
Speaker 3: of right, like that right there, you knew that was

1387
01:07:21,200 --> 01:07:23,160
Speaker 3: part of the job. You were on the job for

1388
01:07:23,240 --> 01:07:28,800
Speaker 3: a while, you converted. I don't like, unless there's a

1389
01:07:28,960 --> 01:07:33,920
Speaker 3: way to give a religious accommodation that they're denying, right,

1390
01:07:35,040 --> 01:07:36,800
Speaker 3: I don't know what they're supposed to do, because it

1391
01:07:36,840 --> 01:07:39,640
Speaker 3: sounds like you can't do the job anymore, correct, or

1392
01:07:39,720 --> 01:07:41,960
Speaker 3: maybe you're just making extra work for everybody.

1393
01:07:41,640 --> 01:07:44,640
Speaker 4: Else, right, they're having to pick up the slack because you, like,

1394
01:07:44,720 --> 01:07:46,320
Speaker 4: I can't do this, yeah.

1395
01:07:46,520 --> 01:07:52,040
Speaker 3: Because I mean, I understand people's religion is just gonna

1396
01:07:52,040 --> 01:07:54,840
Speaker 3: be a thing that you have to deal with in this.

1397
01:07:54,960 --> 01:07:58,120
Speaker 2: Country and in the world. But not everybody believed that.

1398
01:07:58,160 --> 01:07:59,760
Speaker 4: Shit, and not everybody's going to accommodate.

1399
01:08:00,320 --> 01:08:05,120
Speaker 3: A job shouldn't have to be like like, here's this

1400
01:08:05,360 --> 01:08:08,240
Speaker 3: job that one of the requirements is this thing that

1401
01:08:08,360 --> 01:08:10,000
Speaker 3: might violate someone else's religion.

1402
01:08:12,360 --> 01:08:15,560
Speaker 2: But you can still have this job and just not

1403
01:08:15,720 --> 01:08:18,519
Speaker 2: do that thing. So now our customers are just fuck them.

1404
01:08:18,479 --> 01:08:20,759
Speaker 4: Right right now, unless they have something in their clause

1405
01:08:20,800 --> 01:08:23,360
Speaker 4: of our laws it says, hey, we will accommodate.

1406
01:08:23,560 --> 01:08:25,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, if that's a reasonable way to accommodate this person,

1407
01:08:25,560 --> 01:08:28,720
Speaker 3: I think you should. But if there's not, if it's

1408
01:08:28,840 --> 01:08:30,840
Speaker 3: really like a function of the job, whereas I mean,

1409
01:08:30,880 --> 01:08:33,120
Speaker 3: it's like Kim Davis right, Like I don't understand why

1410
01:08:33,200 --> 01:08:35,760
Speaker 3: Kim Davis gets to pick I just don't feel like

1411
01:08:35,840 --> 01:08:38,000
Speaker 3: doing this thing. So nobody in my county can get

1412
01:08:38,800 --> 01:08:40,880
Speaker 3: you know what I mean? Like, it just seems like

1413
01:08:40,960 --> 01:08:43,080
Speaker 3: the wrong way to do it. So in June, she

1414
01:08:43,160 --> 01:08:45,680
Speaker 3: asked her supervisor at express Jet for a religious accommodation.

1415
01:08:45,800 --> 01:08:49,120
Speaker 3: Flight attendants have many responsibilities, getting passed to see the performer,

1416
01:08:49,160 --> 01:08:52,320
Speaker 3: safety demonstration, checking over head compartments. Would it be possible

1417
01:08:52,360 --> 01:08:54,600
Speaker 3: for one of Stanley's colleagues to serve joints while she

1418
01:08:54,720 --> 01:08:57,320
Speaker 3: did something else? Yes, she was told a supervisor accommodated

1419
01:08:57,360 --> 01:08:59,360
Speaker 3: Miss Stanley's request by the director of her to make

1420
01:08:59,439 --> 01:09:02,320
Speaker 3: arrangements with the flight attendant on duty so such that

1421
01:09:02,320 --> 01:09:04,280
Speaker 3: when a customer request to be served alcohol. The other

1422
01:09:04,320 --> 01:09:08,080
Speaker 3: flight attendant will accommodate that request, according to the EEO

1423
01:09:08,400 --> 01:09:11,720
Speaker 3: EEO C okay, so they did make it night, So

1424
01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:13,479
Speaker 3: all right, then then that's fine.

1425
01:09:13,520 --> 01:09:14,960
Speaker 2: If you said you can do it, that's the end

1426
01:09:15,479 --> 01:09:16,760
Speaker 2: for a while. All went well.

1427
01:09:16,800 --> 01:09:19,919
Speaker 3: The request of accommodation does not interfere with Miss Stanley's performance,

1428
01:09:20,320 --> 01:09:23,439
Speaker 3: is a reasonable religious accommodation and has not caused any

1429
01:09:23,560 --> 01:09:24,920
Speaker 3: undue hardship upon.

1430
01:09:24,920 --> 01:09:26,519
Speaker 2: Express Jet, according to her complaint.

1431
01:09:26,920 --> 01:09:29,880
Speaker 3: Yet, in early August, and the airline employment employee found

1432
01:09:29,920 --> 01:09:32,479
Speaker 3: an internal complaint against Stanley. Stanley was not doing her

1433
01:09:32,560 --> 01:09:35,840
Speaker 3: job refusing to serve alcohol. The employee alleged also calling

1434
01:09:35,840 --> 01:09:39,880
Speaker 3: an attention to Stanley's headdress and a book she carried

1435
01:09:39,920 --> 01:09:45,519
Speaker 3: with foreign writings. Ah that's just discrimination, man, Get the

1436
01:09:45,640 --> 01:09:46,320
Speaker 3: fuck out of here.

1437
01:09:46,560 --> 01:09:48,479
Speaker 4: And that's probably why she's suing, right.

1438
01:09:49,400 --> 01:09:50,599
Speaker 2: Well, see that's why.

1439
01:09:50,920 --> 01:09:55,120
Speaker 4: Right, she's probably not even suing for like, because her

1440
01:09:55,200 --> 01:09:58,720
Speaker 4: if her manager and everybody was accommodating you, was like,

1441
01:09:59,080 --> 01:10:01,720
Speaker 4: you're not doing your and you wearing his fucking head

1442
01:10:01,800 --> 01:10:05,040
Speaker 4: dress and you you're reading some ship that I don't understand.

1443
01:10:05,320 --> 01:10:11,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, just a fucking big man. Fight, fuck out of here, uh.

1444
01:10:11,800 --> 01:10:14,000
Speaker 2: Late last month, Express JAD reversed itself.

1445
01:10:14,080 --> 01:10:16,760
Speaker 3: The airline has explained by Stanley's complaint tot her it

1446
01:10:16,840 --> 01:10:21,599
Speaker 3: was with roganness religious accommodation of excluding service of alcohol

1447
01:10:21,640 --> 01:10:24,360
Speaker 3: from her duties. Stanley was placed on the administrative lead

1448
01:10:24,400 --> 01:10:27,439
Speaker 3: without pay for twelve months after her after which her

1449
01:10:27,479 --> 01:10:32,200
Speaker 3: employment would be administratively determinated. Now Stanley is seeking redress

1450
01:10:32,240 --> 01:10:35,200
Speaker 3: from the EOC and what and what, her lawyer called

1451
01:10:35,320 --> 01:10:37,960
Speaker 3: just one example of many discrimination complaints file recently as

1452
01:10:37,960 --> 01:10:41,400
Speaker 3: a result of Islamophobia throughout the country. Right, she was

1453
01:10:41,439 --> 01:10:43,800
Speaker 3: disciplined for following the direction that her employee told her

1454
01:10:43,840 --> 01:10:47,000
Speaker 3: to do. Lena Mysri. Yeah, see that's the other thing

1455
01:10:47,080 --> 01:10:49,920
Speaker 3: that if you're the supervisor, you also need to tell

1456
01:10:50,120 --> 01:10:54,519
Speaker 3: the other flight attendants, Hey, she's you're gonna be doing

1457
01:10:54,600 --> 01:10:57,880
Speaker 3: the alcohol service, uh for the whole plane or whatever like?

1458
01:10:58,479 --> 01:11:00,920
Speaker 2: Right, you just needed to ad y'all need to switch

1459
01:11:01,000 --> 01:11:01,559
Speaker 2: some duties.

1460
01:11:01,680 --> 01:11:05,000
Speaker 3: If she needs to start handing out pillows and peanuts

1461
01:11:05,080 --> 01:11:07,000
Speaker 3: for you and you do alcohol for her.

1462
01:11:07,680 --> 01:11:09,439
Speaker 2: To make it fucking happen, I don't want to hear

1463
01:11:09,439 --> 01:11:10,240
Speaker 2: any complaints about it.

1464
01:11:10,520 --> 01:11:12,560
Speaker 4: Right, And the thing is the manager fuck up for

1465
01:11:12,640 --> 01:11:15,000
Speaker 4: the fact that you accommodated her, and now all of

1466
01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:17,360
Speaker 4: a sudden you can't. Yeah, you have a problem.

1467
01:11:17,680 --> 01:11:20,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it doesn't seem like an unreasonable at least

1468
01:11:20,760 --> 01:11:23,040
Speaker 2: if it wasn't unreasonable in the eyes of the airline

1469
01:11:23,040 --> 01:11:24,840
Speaker 2: at first. I don't see how they could say it

1470
01:11:24,920 --> 01:11:27,840
Speaker 2: was unreasonable after someone who brings up their hairdress and

1471
01:11:27,880 --> 01:11:30,720
Speaker 2: the Koran says it's unreasonable.

1472
01:11:30,439 --> 01:11:32,720
Speaker 4: Right after you have allowed her to do this for

1473
01:11:32,800 --> 01:11:35,240
Speaker 4: a while. Like, if that's the case, this is something

1474
01:11:35,280 --> 01:11:37,880
Speaker 4: that you should have bought up initially, from the very beginning.

1475
01:11:38,240 --> 01:11:41,439
Speaker 4: So if she would have had her hair dressed and

1476
01:11:41,600 --> 01:11:44,280
Speaker 4: read the funny wordy book but served alcohol, there wouldn't

1477
01:11:44,280 --> 01:11:44,719
Speaker 4: be a problem.

1478
01:11:44,960 --> 01:11:49,080
Speaker 3: Express ExpressJet acknowledge that service serving alcohol was not an

1479
01:11:49,160 --> 01:11:52,360
Speaker 3: essential duty or function of a flight contendent a flight attendant. Wow,

1480
01:11:52,680 --> 01:11:56,160
Speaker 3: but granting the religious accommodation. By granting the religiou accommodation

1481
01:11:56,240 --> 01:11:59,519
Speaker 3: by a version itself, the company has violated Title seven

1482
01:11:59,560 --> 01:12:02,200
Speaker 3: of Civil Acting nineteen sixty four, which vince employers from

1483
01:12:02,200 --> 01:12:04,439
Speaker 3: discriminating against employees for religious reasons.

1484
01:12:07,479 --> 01:12:09,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, she got a lawsuit.

1485
01:12:10,080 --> 01:12:13,120
Speaker 3: Masri noted that c ai R has seen a significant

1486
01:12:13,120 --> 01:12:16,000
Speaker 3: arise in the number of discrimination complaints. She compared Staley's

1487
01:12:16,000 --> 01:12:18,200
Speaker 3: case to that of another client she represented two years ago,

1488
01:12:18,560 --> 01:12:20,640
Speaker 3: a Muslim waitress in Detroit dismissed.

1489
01:12:20,280 --> 01:12:23,320
Speaker 2: For wearing a work work for work for wearing a

1490
01:12:23,400 --> 01:12:23,840
Speaker 2: hey job.

1491
01:12:24,280 --> 01:12:28,160
Speaker 3: Masri said the case found positive resolution out of the court.

1492
01:12:28,840 --> 01:12:30,800
Speaker 2: Hope, yeah, I hope she wins. I just hope she

1493
01:12:30,880 --> 01:12:31,519
Speaker 2: wins me.

1494
01:12:31,720 --> 01:12:34,400
Speaker 4: Too, Cause you had to do twelve months. So basically

1495
01:12:34,479 --> 01:12:38,000
Speaker 4: you went a whole year and not getting get paid. Yeah,

1496
01:12:38,120 --> 01:12:40,280
Speaker 4: for them turn around and find you. It's like that's

1497
01:12:40,280 --> 01:12:43,320
Speaker 4: one of the Look, that's that's textbook. Okay, we're not

1498
01:12:43,400 --> 01:12:43,920
Speaker 4: gonna pay you.

1499
01:12:44,040 --> 01:12:46,519
Speaker 3: You were fine, you got good reviews, everything was okay,

1500
01:12:46,720 --> 01:12:49,839
Speaker 3: we praise you. Someone complained about you being Muslim, essentially,

1501
01:12:49,920 --> 01:12:51,360
Speaker 3: and then basically you were kicked off.

1502
01:12:51,880 --> 01:12:53,960
Speaker 4: Right, Nobody had a problem with you being Muslim prior

1503
01:12:54,080 --> 01:12:55,920
Speaker 4: to that, right, Yeah, all right.

1504
01:12:57,120 --> 01:12:59,679
Speaker 2: All right, let's get into some of my other segments.

1505
01:12:59,760 --> 01:13:04,640
Speaker 3: Here, where's my music. Let's play a little bit of

1506
01:13:05,000 --> 01:13:06,120
Speaker 3: fucking with black people.

1507
01:13:14,960 --> 01:13:17,759
Speaker 2: We're just fucking with those black people. We're just fucking

1508
01:13:17,920 --> 01:13:18,639
Speaker 2: with those blacks.

1509
01:13:18,920 --> 01:13:22,360
Speaker 4: We were just fucking with fucking with black people.

1510
01:13:22,840 --> 01:13:25,040
Speaker 3: That's right, guys, time to play the game that we

1511
01:13:25,240 --> 01:13:27,800
Speaker 3: all kind of hate to play it's fucking with black people,

1512
01:13:28,160 --> 01:13:29,960
Speaker 3: or we read articles wrong around the globe and when

1513
01:13:29,960 --> 01:13:31,720
Speaker 3: its sign points scores with zero two, one hundred and

1514
01:13:31,880 --> 01:13:33,560
Speaker 3: it one was a twenty five on how much we

1515
01:13:33,640 --> 01:13:38,800
Speaker 3: feel fucked with today's uh, today's contestants.

1516
01:13:38,320 --> 01:13:39,200
Speaker 2: Everybody.

1517
01:13:40,680 --> 01:13:40,720
Speaker 4: This.

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01:13:41,000 --> 01:13:46,200
Speaker 3: I saw this article this morning, and you know, I

1519
01:13:46,360 --> 01:13:48,400
Speaker 3: try to give it, you know, a benefit of a doubt,

1520
01:13:48,439 --> 01:13:52,200
Speaker 3: but it just seemed very kind of messy. But and

1521
01:13:52,320 --> 01:13:54,439
Speaker 3: I can't read the whole thing because's so fucking long.

1522
01:13:55,200 --> 01:13:58,160
Speaker 3: But basically it was from BuzzFeed dot com by a

1523
01:13:58,200 --> 01:14:01,960
Speaker 3: guy named Darren Sands, who says that the success and

1524
01:14:02,080 --> 01:14:06,479
Speaker 3: controversy of hashtag campaign zero and it's successful controversial leader

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Speaker 3: Deray McKesson.

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Speaker 4: The title is just loaded.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. It says Campaign zero is designed to stop the violence,

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Speaker 2: stop the police from killing people. It has a new

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01:14:18,160 --> 01:14:19,680
Speaker 2: tool to track its feedback.

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Speaker 3: Some prominent Democrats are already sold, and it's left other

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01:14:23,360 --> 01:14:25,599
Speaker 3: activists who had nothing to do with the project frustrated

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01:14:25,600 --> 01:14:30,960
Speaker 3: about where to go next. Basically, man, like, I read

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01:14:31,000 --> 01:14:33,519
Speaker 3: this shit, and you know, I try to give benefit

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01:14:33,600 --> 01:14:36,880
Speaker 3: of that word is due because I'm assuming not everybody

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01:14:36,960 --> 01:14:41,080
Speaker 3: in Black Lives matter the actual official organization feels the

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01:14:41,120 --> 01:14:44,280
Speaker 3: same way about this shit, and I'm assuming that all

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01:14:44,280 --> 01:14:47,240
Speaker 3: the people that deal with Deray doesn't feel a certain way,

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01:14:47,240 --> 01:14:49,240
Speaker 3: and the activist beef shit is, you know, kind of

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01:14:50,120 --> 01:14:52,320
Speaker 3: it's one of those things that I begrudually just have

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01:14:52,439 --> 01:14:52,960
Speaker 3: to accept.

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01:14:53,200 --> 01:14:55,519
Speaker 2: You know, you're never gonna feel good about it.

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01:14:55,600 --> 01:14:59,080
Speaker 3: But it's ridiculous to think everybody's gonna get along, correct,

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01:14:59,200 --> 01:15:02,680
Speaker 3: you know, So I get that there's gonna be some

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01:15:02,800 --> 01:15:04,600
Speaker 3: people that don't operate, but this shit felt like a

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01:15:04,720 --> 01:15:05,200
Speaker 3: hit job.

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01:15:05,320 --> 01:15:05,479
Speaker 4: Man.

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01:15:05,640 --> 01:15:10,840
Speaker 3: It really felt like they were trying to lay everything

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01:15:10,960 --> 01:15:13,360
Speaker 3: at the feet of Deray for some reason, like he's

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01:15:13,400 --> 01:15:18,960
Speaker 3: this horrible person that you know, at worst is completely misguided,

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01:15:19,040 --> 01:15:21,280
Speaker 3: at I mean, at best is completely misguided, and at

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01:15:21,360 --> 01:15:26,400
Speaker 3: worst it is some type of like individual attention seeking

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01:15:26,600 --> 01:15:29,920
Speaker 3: usurper who's trying to take this movement for himself, right.

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01:15:30,000 --> 01:15:31,800
Speaker 4: And I think the thing that bothers a lot of

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01:15:31,840 --> 01:15:34,320
Speaker 4: people about Deray is that he's very articulate. Like when

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01:15:34,360 --> 01:15:37,040
Speaker 4: they come at him, he don't snap, he don't get

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01:15:37,160 --> 01:15:40,040
Speaker 4: nasty with him, he don't yell, he don't scream at him.

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01:15:40,400 --> 01:15:42,040
Speaker 4: And it's like one of those things where it's like

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01:15:42,240 --> 01:15:45,400
Speaker 4: we don't know what to say to you to get

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01:15:45,439 --> 01:15:48,040
Speaker 4: you to respond, so we can run off with our

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01:15:48,080 --> 01:15:49,400
Speaker 4: angry black men narratives.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, Dream Hampton came at him on Twitter

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01:15:52,920 --> 01:15:55,280
Speaker 3: and then right after that, like the hit pieces kind

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01:15:55,320 --> 01:15:55,719
Speaker 3: of started.

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01:15:55,760 --> 01:15:57,360
Speaker 2: So I don't know if she just has friends in

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01:15:57,439 --> 01:15:58,320
Speaker 2: some places.

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Speaker 4: That you know you're right and just start talking, just

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01:16:01,439 --> 01:16:05,200
Speaker 4: like the with some of the ladies in Black Lives Matter,

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01:16:05,360 --> 01:16:09,120
Speaker 4: when they wasn't going to the media, wasn't talking, wasn't

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01:16:09,120 --> 01:16:11,479
Speaker 4: speaking out. You know, they've came out and said that

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01:16:11,560 --> 01:16:13,760
Speaker 4: people that would praise them is now saying that they

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01:16:13,880 --> 01:16:16,320
Speaker 4: the worst bitch is ever because you won't talk to

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01:16:16,439 --> 01:16:18,719
Speaker 4: me and you won't you know, so all of a sudden,

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01:16:18,720 --> 01:16:20,880
Speaker 4: the narrative changes, So you don't know if it's something

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01:16:20,920 --> 01:16:25,000
Speaker 4: where he declined an interview or he said something to somebody,

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01:16:25,600 --> 01:16:28,040
Speaker 4: or or he did something to somebody and they just

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01:16:28,080 --> 01:16:30,200
Speaker 4: took that shit personal and was like fuck it, we

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01:16:30,600 --> 01:16:31,360
Speaker 4: I'm out to get you.

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01:16:32,320 --> 01:16:34,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I mean, and then the thing is, it

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01:16:34,760 --> 01:16:37,920
Speaker 3: sounds like some of those people feel like Black Lives

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01:16:38,000 --> 01:16:43,560
Speaker 3: Matter got derailed somewhat, the organization, not the movement. I

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01:16:44,120 --> 01:16:47,160
Speaker 3: try to make that distinction where I can, but they

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01:16:47,240 --> 01:16:51,400
Speaker 3: feel like the momentum kind of died down and it's

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01:16:51,520 --> 01:16:55,679
Speaker 3: kind of his fault. And by the way him means

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01:16:55,840 --> 01:16:58,639
Speaker 3: every time I say him, it also means nada.

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01:16:59,200 --> 01:17:02,240
Speaker 4: Right, He's not doing it by hisself, Like it's very

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01:17:02,680 --> 01:17:05,960
Speaker 4: It's like everybody is. And this is what fucking frustrates

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01:17:06,000 --> 01:17:08,439
Speaker 4: me when it comes to black people in black movements.

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01:17:08,880 --> 01:17:12,759
Speaker 4: Everybody's quick to want to have a fucking leader because

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01:17:12,800 --> 01:17:15,280
Speaker 4: the thing about a leader, you can shoot that leader down,

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01:17:15,640 --> 01:17:18,320
Speaker 4: and you could tear that leader down and you can

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01:17:18,400 --> 01:17:21,120
Speaker 4: attack that leader. But with this there's no leader, and

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01:17:21,400 --> 01:17:23,680
Speaker 4: everybody is saying, this is a group effort, this is

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01:17:23,760 --> 01:17:27,000
Speaker 4: the group thing. Black lives Matter, Ned and d Ray.

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01:17:27,120 --> 01:17:29,760
Speaker 4: Everybody's like, I'm not alone, and they gonna fuck it.

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01:17:29,800 --> 01:17:32,000
Speaker 4: We're gonna put a leader ahead, even if you don't

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01:17:32,040 --> 01:17:34,200
Speaker 4: want to be the leader, because we can and we

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01:17:34,320 --> 01:17:36,960
Speaker 4: need something to fucking attack because if not, what the

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01:17:37,000 --> 01:17:38,000
Speaker 4: fuck are we attacking?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I just like like the other thing is naturally,

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01:17:43,400 --> 01:17:46,200
Speaker 3: there were just some hurdles, right like, even after you know,

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01:17:46,720 --> 01:17:52,160
Speaker 3: the Seattle interruption of Bertie Sanders, some of the politicians

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01:17:52,200 --> 01:17:54,960
Speaker 3: reached out to them, were like, hey, let's meet and

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01:17:55,120 --> 01:17:57,799
Speaker 3: at the time Black Lives Matter, which is an organization

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01:17:57,920 --> 01:17:59,160
Speaker 3: that kind of pries itself.

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01:17:58,920 --> 01:18:02,799
Speaker 2: On having a lot of different leaders. Everybody's a leader.

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01:18:02,640 --> 01:18:04,519
Speaker 3: In the group, had to sit down and be like,

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01:18:04,760 --> 01:18:07,160
Speaker 3: we need to come up with like an organizational chart

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01:18:07,240 --> 01:18:09,519
Speaker 3: and who's gonna meet and what ideas are we gonna present,

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01:18:09,840 --> 01:18:13,720
Speaker 3: which takes time right right, So it's almost like they

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01:18:13,840 --> 01:18:17,559
Speaker 3: weren't really prepared to really seize the opportunity at the moment.

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01:18:17,960 --> 01:18:20,439
Speaker 3: And then even at the end, the final conclusion for

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01:18:20,520 --> 01:18:22,800
Speaker 3: a lot of it was like, well, we don't really

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01:18:22,880 --> 01:18:25,000
Speaker 3: feel like we want to be beholden to any party,

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01:18:25,479 --> 01:18:29,280
Speaker 3: any politician, you know, like we don't necessarily want to

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01:18:29,280 --> 01:18:33,280
Speaker 3: work with any organizations and commit to it. So which

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01:18:33,360 --> 01:18:36,880
Speaker 3: is fine, which is completely the prerogative, but you can't

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01:18:36,960 --> 01:18:40,800
Speaker 3: be mad and upset that other people who also have

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01:18:41,040 --> 01:18:44,040
Speaker 3: the best interests of black people in mind are like, well,

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01:18:44,120 --> 01:18:46,200
Speaker 3: I want to do it a different way. I do

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01:18:46,439 --> 01:18:50,960
Speaker 3: want to commit resources and time to organizations that have

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01:18:51,160 --> 01:18:53,599
Speaker 3: some in rows and to help us, Like there's more

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01:18:53,680 --> 01:18:57,240
Speaker 3: than one way to do this thing, right, But it

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01:18:57,360 --> 01:19:00,400
Speaker 3: seems like they kind of like at least so people,

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01:19:00,479 --> 01:19:03,519
Speaker 3: which and honestly, man, it was real fucked up because

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Speaker 3: a lot of closes and hair from anonymous people, which you.

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01:19:07,120 --> 01:19:09,320
Speaker 4: Know, anonymous people who are you people?

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01:19:09,960 --> 01:19:12,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know if if Ryn would scream Frampton

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01:19:12,760 --> 01:19:15,920
Speaker 3: or what, but like a lot of these people had

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01:19:16,000 --> 01:19:20,680
Speaker 3: these anonymous comments and then like the anonymous comments are

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01:19:20,760 --> 01:19:24,080
Speaker 3: calling for transparency, which like how the fuck you're gonna

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01:19:24,439 --> 01:19:28,320
Speaker 3: be anonymous asking somebody else to be more transparent? Like

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01:19:28,439 --> 01:19:32,679
Speaker 3: that's that's such a like hypocritical stance. But like also

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01:19:33,000 --> 01:19:36,640
Speaker 3: like it was very weird that they would that that

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01:19:36,840 --> 01:19:40,920
Speaker 3: they would, you know, take these shots at him, because

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01:19:40,960 --> 01:19:42,280
Speaker 3: some of the points didn't make sense.

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01:19:42,320 --> 01:19:44,360
Speaker 2: They sounded out like almost jealous.

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Speaker 3: Like one of them was like, so you you you

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01:19:47,880 --> 01:19:52,040
Speaker 3: go to Charleston after the shooting and the hashtag go

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01:19:52,200 --> 01:19:55,280
Speaker 3: home the race stars trending. Uh, And they made it

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01:19:55,360 --> 01:19:57,519
Speaker 3: seem like he made it trend and it was his

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01:19:57,760 --> 01:20:00,640
Speaker 3: fault and he uh. And then it they kind of

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01:20:00,680 --> 01:20:05,040
Speaker 3: compare them to owl sharped in which highly ironic. Yes

1643
01:20:05,120 --> 01:20:07,800
Speaker 3: I'm a prophet, Yes I'm the smartest person alive, but

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01:20:08,520 --> 01:20:11,240
Speaker 3: like they compare him the owl Sharpen to say he

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01:20:11,320 --> 01:20:14,200
Speaker 3: had an ol sharped and type model. It's like racist

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01:20:14,240 --> 01:20:17,920
Speaker 3: people that were threatening my life make something trend in

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01:20:18,000 --> 01:20:21,120
Speaker 3: the United States and it's my fault. I'm like, I'm

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01:20:21,200 --> 01:20:23,920
Speaker 3: a bad person because like, is that the thing? You

1649
01:20:24,080 --> 01:20:25,880
Speaker 3: just want the credit whether it's good or bad. You

1650
01:20:25,960 --> 01:20:27,080
Speaker 3: want the death threats, and you.

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01:20:27,080 --> 01:20:27,960
Speaker 2: Want all that shit too.

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01:20:28,080 --> 01:20:30,120
Speaker 4: Like that goes with the territory.

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01:20:30,280 --> 01:20:34,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like, is Black Lives matter not getting enough credit

1654
01:20:34,400 --> 01:20:37,839
Speaker 3: and publicity? Is that what they feel that they deserve

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01:20:38,000 --> 01:20:41,880
Speaker 3: more and deray is getting too much? Because part of

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01:20:41,920 --> 01:20:43,960
Speaker 3: that might also be a model issue. Part of that

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01:20:44,240 --> 01:20:48,000
Speaker 3: is because you don't necessarily have a person and if

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01:20:48,040 --> 01:20:50,880
Speaker 3: that's the thing that you want, you could remedy that.

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01:20:51,439 --> 01:20:52,920
Speaker 2: If not, then just leave it alone.

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01:20:53,280 --> 01:20:56,559
Speaker 3: Other people have different approaches and it doesn't negate your

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01:20:56,600 --> 01:20:59,840
Speaker 3: approach because they have a different approach and work.

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01:21:00,280 --> 01:21:01,400
Speaker 2: It doesn't erase your work.

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Speaker 3: And you know the other thing and like another thing

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01:21:04,280 --> 01:21:07,120
Speaker 3: they were saying was like, well, their work reduplicates and

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01:21:07,240 --> 01:21:09,519
Speaker 3: kind of does work that other people have already done.

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01:21:09,920 --> 01:21:10,800
Speaker 2: Here's a problem with that.

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01:21:11,120 --> 01:21:13,479
Speaker 3: If they were to take those other people's work, y'all

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01:21:13,479 --> 01:21:15,639
Speaker 3: would say, well, they're taking credit for someone else's work

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01:21:15,880 --> 01:21:17,960
Speaker 3: or they just using someone else's work to get attention.

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01:21:18,439 --> 01:21:20,599
Speaker 2: So either way, they were gonna be fucked. So if

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01:21:20,600 --> 01:21:21,600
Speaker 2: they do the groundwork of.

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01:21:21,600 --> 01:21:27,000
Speaker 3: Counting out the police homicides or police killing suspects that

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01:21:27,080 --> 01:21:29,960
Speaker 3: are unarmed, if they if they do all the hard

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01:21:30,000 --> 01:21:32,519
Speaker 3: work of doing it themselves, then it's why'd you do

1675
01:21:32,600 --> 01:21:35,120
Speaker 3: all that work? Other people have already done it. If

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01:21:35,160 --> 01:21:37,439
Speaker 3: they don't do the work, then it's, oh, you just

1677
01:21:37,560 --> 01:21:39,639
Speaker 3: using someone else's numbers. You didn't do any of that work.

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01:21:39,680 --> 01:21:40,920
Speaker 3: It's no fucking way to win.

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01:21:41,560 --> 01:21:44,000
Speaker 4: No, no, it's not. It's and why is there. It

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01:21:44,200 --> 01:21:46,240
Speaker 4: can only be one it can only be one way,

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01:21:46,680 --> 01:21:49,800
Speaker 4: it can only be one group. And nobody can do everything.

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01:21:50,040 --> 01:21:51,400
Speaker 4: Nobody can do everything.

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01:21:52,000 --> 01:21:53,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know.

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01:21:53,640 --> 01:21:58,920
Speaker 2: And the other thing too, is like the media mostly

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01:21:59,040 --> 01:22:00,120
Speaker 2: decides it can only you.

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01:22:00,160 --> 01:22:03,880
Speaker 3: Want, right, So even if like I remember that this

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01:22:04,040 --> 01:22:07,240
Speaker 3: dude didn't do interviews for damn near a year, you

1688
01:22:07,320 --> 01:22:08,720
Speaker 3: know what I mean, Like he just wouldn't go on

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01:22:09,240 --> 01:22:11,280
Speaker 3: people want to interview him a course, but he wouldn't

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01:22:11,320 --> 01:22:14,000
Speaker 3: do press. Same thing with Netta. She still isn't really

1691
01:22:14,040 --> 01:22:16,560
Speaker 3: comfortable during press. But like or at least you know,

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01:22:16,600 --> 01:22:19,080
Speaker 3: that's what I've heard her say. But like, like they're

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01:22:19,160 --> 01:22:21,439
Speaker 3: not people that are just like I'm trying to make

1694
01:22:21,640 --> 01:22:24,880
Speaker 3: my money and my name off of this shit on

1695
01:22:25,000 --> 01:22:29,240
Speaker 3: some like opportunistic bullshit, But it feels like when it's

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01:22:29,320 --> 01:22:32,479
Speaker 3: convenient to paint him that way, people have no problem

1697
01:22:32,640 --> 01:22:35,920
Speaker 3: doing that. You know, there were people that were upset

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01:22:36,000 --> 01:22:39,800
Speaker 3: with him for having not having black African soap in

1699
01:22:39,920 --> 01:22:42,479
Speaker 3: his house at one point on Twitter, like that was

1700
01:22:42,520 --> 01:22:45,240
Speaker 3: a thing that was trending. Was like, like some of

1701
01:22:45,320 --> 01:22:50,200
Speaker 3: the critiques have been ridiculous, Like in this one, mckesson's

1702
01:22:50,280 --> 01:22:53,599
Speaker 3: gone into places and counted the organizing on the ground

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01:22:53,640 --> 01:22:57,240
Speaker 3: and tweeted out information. He wasn't supposed to perpetuated bad

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01:22:57,360 --> 01:23:01,519
Speaker 3: narratives and not offer support, said other prominent activists aligned

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01:23:01,560 --> 01:23:04,360
Speaker 3: with Black Lives Matter organization, who asked to remain anonymous

1706
01:23:04,479 --> 01:23:06,679
Speaker 3: because the activist was not authorized to speak on behalf

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01:23:06,680 --> 01:23:08,960
Speaker 3: of the network. That shouldn't be a surprise when you

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01:23:09,080 --> 01:23:12,120
Speaker 3: have hashtags like go home deray in the aftermath of

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01:23:12,320 --> 01:23:15,280
Speaker 3: Charleston shooting. The activist said it was like he was

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01:23:15,360 --> 01:23:17,439
Speaker 3: perpetuating the al sharp To model of leadership.

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01:23:18,320 --> 01:23:19,800
Speaker 2: What the fuck does that mean?

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01:23:20,400 --> 01:23:20,599
Speaker 4: Right?

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01:23:21,680 --> 01:23:24,920
Speaker 3: Marcrate comes from this seemingly type of individual activism as

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01:23:24,960 --> 01:23:27,439
Speaker 3: opposed to working with people and groups that have been

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01:23:27,520 --> 01:23:30,599
Speaker 3: doing this for a while, so it sounds like you're

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01:23:30,720 --> 01:23:32,200
Speaker 3: trying to bring him into the fold.

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01:23:32,520 --> 01:23:32,600
Speaker 11: Now.

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01:23:32,680 --> 01:23:36,400
Speaker 3: That was Rosa Clemente, who is organizer for Black Lives Matter.

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01:23:36,760 --> 01:23:39,400
Speaker 3: For example, in twenty twelve, the Malcolm X Grassroots movement

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01:23:39,439 --> 01:23:42,760
Speaker 3: published the Every twenty eight Hours Report, which is early

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01:23:42,840 --> 01:23:45,240
Speaker 3: as twenty ten, began compelling the days African American men

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01:23:45,320 --> 01:23:49,200
Speaker 3: and women and children killed by the police. So they're like,

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01:23:49,280 --> 01:23:51,960
Speaker 3: why you gotta count them up yourself. It's like, well, if,

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01:23:52,080 --> 01:23:53,760
Speaker 3: like I said, if he would have took advantage of that.

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01:23:54,280 --> 01:23:58,840
Speaker 3: While also because he likes him Netta like that crew,

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01:23:58,960 --> 01:24:01,160
Speaker 3: they like to kind of keep that individuality. They don't

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01:24:01,160 --> 01:24:03,400
Speaker 3: want to join the organization, which I can relate to.

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01:24:04,960 --> 01:24:08,240
Speaker 3: Not everybody's a joiner. Not everybody wants to, you know,

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01:24:08,520 --> 01:24:13,280
Speaker 3: beholding or responsible to to another group of people. Not

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01:24:13,400 --> 01:24:15,920
Speaker 3: to mention, a lot of times organizations can stifle ship

1731
01:24:16,080 --> 01:24:19,479
Speaker 3: with all their organizing, all the rules and regulations and shit,

1732
01:24:20,080 --> 01:24:24,200
Speaker 3: like when when when different campaigns were ready to meet

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01:24:24,240 --> 01:24:28,040
Speaker 3: with people. A group has to go organize itself, find

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01:24:28,080 --> 01:24:30,439
Speaker 3: the right people that come meet and it might take

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01:24:30,600 --> 01:24:33,960
Speaker 3: it takes valuable time. Whereas if you say, hey, I

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01:24:34,040 --> 01:24:35,800
Speaker 3: want to meet with Netta, or I want to meet

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01:24:35,800 --> 01:24:38,360
Speaker 3: with Deray, or I want to meet with uh Samuel,

1738
01:24:38,439 --> 01:24:40,160
Speaker 3: or I want to like whoever I want to meet with.

1739
01:24:41,040 --> 01:24:43,080
Speaker 3: They can be like, all right, it's just me. I

1740
01:24:43,120 --> 01:24:44,800
Speaker 3: can show up and give you the things that my

1741
01:24:44,960 --> 01:24:45,719
Speaker 3: organization's been.

1742
01:24:45,640 --> 01:24:49,120
Speaker 4: Working on for permission. You don't have to jump through hoops.

1743
01:24:49,200 --> 01:24:52,000
Speaker 4: I don't have to ask, you know, get get get all,

1744
01:24:52,120 --> 01:24:55,000
Speaker 4: get all. This this ship that goes with when when

1745
01:24:55,040 --> 01:24:57,120
Speaker 4: you when you did when you deal with very very

1746
01:24:57,479 --> 01:25:01,599
Speaker 4: large organizations like a big ship. And when they moved,

1747
01:25:01,680 --> 01:25:02,880
Speaker 4: they moved slowly.

1748
01:25:03,479 --> 01:25:03,719
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1749
01:25:03,880 --> 01:25:06,559
Speaker 3: Mckesson's profile in the movement as something of a long

1750
01:25:06,680 --> 01:25:09,439
Speaker 3: actor has added to the tension. He has repeatedly said

1751
01:25:09,439 --> 01:25:11,720
Speaker 3: he does not wish to join the organization. You can't

1752
01:25:11,760 --> 01:25:13,679
Speaker 3: be accountable to folks. You are not in the community

1753
01:25:13,720 --> 01:25:17,000
Speaker 3: with one activist said once again, no name right. But

1754
01:25:17,200 --> 01:25:19,640
Speaker 3: McKesson sees the Independence's friend. I think that there are

1755
01:25:19,760 --> 01:25:23,120
Speaker 3: many people who believe in social justice work rip large,

1756
01:25:23,800 --> 01:25:27,960
Speaker 3: who are invested in the movement, who have chosen not

1757
01:25:28,120 --> 01:25:30,360
Speaker 3: to be in traditional organizations, who want to be in

1758
01:25:30,479 --> 01:25:35,240
Speaker 3: the work without living whatever connotation membership brings, he said

1759
01:25:35,280 --> 01:25:37,280
Speaker 3: an interview with Buzpeed News I think there's a way

1760
01:25:37,360 --> 01:25:40,160
Speaker 3: to organize for those people too. It doesn't make any

1761
01:25:40,240 --> 01:25:43,560
Speaker 3: other models of organization organizing any less effective, but it

1762
01:25:43,640 --> 01:25:45,639
Speaker 3: does say we have an opportunity to think about digital

1763
01:25:45,760 --> 01:25:50,040
Speaker 3: organizing in a new and profound way. So yeah, like

1764
01:25:50,120 --> 01:25:53,400
Speaker 3: I said, man, I can dig both approaches.

1765
01:25:53,040 --> 01:25:55,640
Speaker 4: Need too, but you actually need both approaches.

1766
01:25:55,760 --> 01:25:59,280
Speaker 3: It's kind of funny to see the shots fired from

1767
01:26:00,080 --> 01:26:03,519
Speaker 3: you know, with from people that have mostly the same goals,

1768
01:26:03,680 --> 01:26:05,559
Speaker 3: even though I know that that's happened in the past,

1769
01:26:05,760 --> 01:26:08,240
Speaker 3: it's been covered up by history, but we're now seeing

1770
01:26:08,280 --> 01:26:12,680
Speaker 3: it in real time. But it also huh yeah, of

1771
01:26:12,720 --> 01:26:14,719
Speaker 3: course not we know they did n Adam Clayton Powell

1772
01:26:14,880 --> 01:26:16,880
Speaker 3: and fucking MLK and Malcolm X, like.

1773
01:26:18,479 --> 01:26:19,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know.

1774
01:26:19,920 --> 01:26:22,439
Speaker 3: But the thing is that's funny is seeing it in

1775
01:26:22,560 --> 01:26:26,800
Speaker 3: real time is also like people just can't help human nature.

1776
01:26:26,880 --> 01:26:30,960
Speaker 3: Like you didn't learn anything from those times, So maybe

1777
01:26:31,000 --> 01:26:33,559
Speaker 3: the thing you learned was that it'll be covered up anyway,

1778
01:26:33,680 --> 01:26:37,120
Speaker 3: so why not shoot you shot, talk shit and and

1779
01:26:37,520 --> 01:26:40,840
Speaker 3: you know, apologize later or not apologize at all. But

1780
01:26:42,080 --> 01:26:45,160
Speaker 3: you know, it's you know, like they it's like they're

1781
01:26:45,240 --> 01:26:50,639
Speaker 3: being stifled because you know they're not uh, the ones

1782
01:26:50,720 --> 01:26:51,800
Speaker 3: in the headlines.

1783
01:26:51,400 --> 01:26:52,120
Speaker 2: For some of this shit.

1784
01:26:52,800 --> 01:26:55,880
Speaker 3: A Black Lives Matter organizer who has lent policy expertise

1785
01:26:56,280 --> 01:26:59,800
Speaker 3: expertise to movement organizers, saying he was mad as hell

1786
01:27:00,040 --> 01:27:02,960
Speaker 3: in the video of them can front Hillary Clinton came out.

1787
01:27:05,320 --> 01:27:08,200
Speaker 3: It's a popular sentiment with activists focused on policy. The

1788
01:27:08,240 --> 01:27:11,599
Speaker 3: people who confronted Clinton didn't seem to have specific solutions prepared,

1789
01:27:11,880 --> 01:27:14,639
Speaker 3: and it made the broader movement look bad, they say,

1790
01:27:15,840 --> 01:27:18,920
Speaker 3: because in the confrontation with Hillary Clinton, she says, you're

1791
01:27:18,960 --> 01:27:20,519
Speaker 3: gonna have to come together as a movement and say

1792
01:27:20,600 --> 01:27:23,400
Speaker 3: here's what we want done about it, she told the

1793
01:27:23,439 --> 01:27:27,240
Speaker 3: activists and later seen when people saw the video, to

1794
01:27:27,320 --> 01:27:29,840
Speaker 3: which when I saw that, I was like, Okay, Like,

1795
01:27:29,960 --> 01:27:31,120
Speaker 3: I don't know why people take that.

1796
01:27:31,120 --> 01:27:31,759
Speaker 2: As an insult.

1797
01:27:32,880 --> 01:27:35,000
Speaker 3: There's certain things that people take as an insult all

1798
01:27:35,040 --> 01:27:36,320
Speaker 3: the time where I'm just like, I don't see that

1799
01:27:36,320 --> 01:27:36,840
Speaker 3: as an insult.

1800
01:27:36,880 --> 01:27:38,680
Speaker 4: And she didn't dismiss she didn't it.

1801
01:27:39,680 --> 01:27:42,599
Speaker 2: It's like, I understand you're mad, and I don't.

1802
01:27:42,680 --> 01:27:44,320
Speaker 3: I'm not trying to take advantage of you, but you

1803
01:27:44,800 --> 01:27:47,120
Speaker 3: you think you can just tell white people to do

1804
01:27:47,240 --> 01:27:49,640
Speaker 3: the right thing, and then their emotions and feelings are

1805
01:27:49,680 --> 01:27:52,400
Speaker 3: gonna take over. That's kind of what you're approaching me

1806
01:27:52,479 --> 01:27:54,720
Speaker 3: with right now. I know white people, and that ain't

1807
01:27:54,720 --> 01:27:59,840
Speaker 3: gonna happen. So I need something legal that I can get,

1808
01:28:00,160 --> 01:28:01,640
Speaker 3: some legislative ship that I.

1809
01:28:01,640 --> 01:28:05,559
Speaker 2: Can do because laws have to change. Because not just laws.

1810
01:28:05,400 --> 01:28:09,040
Speaker 3: Have to change, you gotta force it, like they will

1811
01:28:09,200 --> 01:28:11,439
Speaker 3: never ever, ever, out of the goodness of their heart,

1812
01:28:11,520 --> 01:28:14,599
Speaker 3: collectively be like, we will push privilege to the side

1813
01:28:14,640 --> 01:28:16,800
Speaker 3: and just do the right thing because it's the right

1814
01:28:16,880 --> 01:28:19,519
Speaker 3: thing to do. And I and I dug her answer

1815
01:28:19,600 --> 01:28:22,120
Speaker 3: to that. You know, it wasn't kind, it wasn't nice,

1816
01:28:22,160 --> 01:28:26,000
Speaker 3: but it also wasn't pandering, and it wasn't it wasn't bullshit.

1817
01:28:26,120 --> 01:28:28,040
Speaker 2: It was a legit reason answer.

1818
01:28:28,560 --> 01:28:31,679
Speaker 3: So the problem that some of these people are having

1819
01:28:31,920 --> 01:28:34,280
Speaker 3: is that, well she basically made it sound like we

1820
01:28:34,320 --> 01:28:36,439
Speaker 3: don't know what we want. Next, Well, you didn't have

1821
01:28:36,520 --> 01:28:38,400
Speaker 3: an answer at the time, so you maybe you didn't know,

1822
01:28:39,200 --> 01:28:41,120
Speaker 3: or maybe you didn't weren't prepared to answer her question

1823
01:28:41,160 --> 01:28:43,840
Speaker 3: to her face at the time. But next time you'll

1824
01:28:43,840 --> 01:28:46,080
Speaker 3: be ready, or now you go back, you come up

1825
01:28:46,080 --> 01:28:47,960
Speaker 3: with an answer, you bring it back to it like

1826
01:28:48,080 --> 01:28:53,559
Speaker 3: it wasn't like I think Black Lives Matter is brilliant.

1827
01:28:53,600 --> 01:28:57,479
Speaker 3: I think they have shifted the movement, They have shifted

1828
01:28:57,520 --> 01:29:01,040
Speaker 3: the conversation. They have done so much stuff that I

1829
01:29:01,120 --> 01:29:03,000
Speaker 3: don't find it to be beyond them to come back

1830
01:29:03,040 --> 01:29:05,000
Speaker 3: and be like, Yo, this was the answer, boom, and

1831
01:29:05,080 --> 01:29:07,640
Speaker 3: then that's it, you know, And.

1832
01:29:07,680 --> 01:29:10,920
Speaker 4: It's okay to challenge and grow as an organization and

1833
01:29:11,000 --> 01:29:13,320
Speaker 4: as a group and change and grow and adapt, like

1834
01:29:13,400 --> 01:29:15,200
Speaker 4: there's nothing wrong with evolving.

1835
01:29:16,000 --> 01:29:17,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just I mean, I just think if they

1836
01:29:17,920 --> 01:29:20,200
Speaker 3: have the answers already, then they got to be prepared

1837
01:29:20,200 --> 01:29:22,400
Speaker 3: to say them right then, because you know that that

1838
01:29:22,520 --> 01:29:24,479
Speaker 3: could be a way to shut you down, for people

1839
01:29:24,520 --> 01:29:25,560
Speaker 3: to be like, well, what you want us to do?

1840
01:29:26,520 --> 01:29:28,640
Speaker 3: The conversation with Clinton didn't need to happen, and the

1841
01:29:28,680 --> 01:29:30,479
Speaker 3: fact that it was taped and then broadcast, it was

1842
01:29:30,520 --> 01:29:32,439
Speaker 3: clear that it was used as a way to make

1843
01:29:32,479 --> 01:29:33,240
Speaker 3: black people feel like.

1844
01:29:33,240 --> 01:29:35,280
Speaker 2: They don't have answers when they do. The activist said,

1845
01:29:37,479 --> 01:29:39,040
Speaker 2: so who recorded and who put it out?

1846
01:29:40,360 --> 01:29:40,479
Speaker 6: Uh?

1847
01:29:40,680 --> 01:29:43,080
Speaker 3: For this part, McKesson was not shy by his willingness

1848
01:29:43,120 --> 01:29:45,600
Speaker 3: to discuss policy with anyone by the for the for

1849
01:29:45,680 --> 01:29:47,600
Speaker 3: the record, it's not like dra was there anything that

1850
01:29:48,240 --> 01:29:51,840
Speaker 3: that had nothing to do with there matter of fact,

1851
01:29:51,840 --> 01:29:54,479
Speaker 3: those people went on the nightly show, some of those people,

1852
01:29:54,560 --> 01:29:58,040
Speaker 3: so that was Black Lives Matter, and I like, I

1853
01:29:58,080 --> 01:30:00,960
Speaker 3: don't know how you can name blame, how you even

1854
01:30:01,000 --> 01:30:02,719
Speaker 3: can conflate Dray with that moment.

1855
01:30:02,960 --> 01:30:04,640
Speaker 2: It's just I don't know.

1856
01:30:04,800 --> 01:30:08,679
Speaker 3: It seems like people are mad that he's beat his people,

1857
01:30:09,080 --> 01:30:13,760
Speaker 3: his organization or uh, you know, Campaign zero has kind

1858
01:30:13,800 --> 01:30:18,240
Speaker 3: of beat people to some solutions and then it's like, well,

1859
01:30:18,280 --> 01:30:21,240
Speaker 3: how dare you. It's like, well, because I care too,

1860
01:30:21,439 --> 01:30:23,960
Speaker 3: and these are the answers I came up with. It

1861
01:30:24,040 --> 01:30:26,679
Speaker 3: doesn't stop it doesn't stop you from having your answers.

1862
01:30:26,880 --> 01:30:28,840
Speaker 3: If you're not prepared to give your answers at the time,

1863
01:30:29,560 --> 01:30:32,360
Speaker 3: then prepare them later and submit them as well. It's

1864
01:30:32,360 --> 01:30:35,720
Speaker 3: not a race, No, it's not, especially if you come

1865
01:30:35,760 --> 01:30:39,000
Speaker 3: to different solutions that can also like benefit each other.

1866
01:30:39,160 --> 01:30:42,320
Speaker 3: You know, it's not like everybody's gonna get everything right.

1867
01:30:42,479 --> 01:30:45,439
Speaker 3: And you know, the Campaign zero is considered a living document,

1868
01:30:45,479 --> 01:30:48,920
Speaker 3: which is as better and good, you know, better ideas

1869
01:30:49,000 --> 01:30:51,640
Speaker 3: come in, they'll they'll adapt to that too, they'll add

1870
01:30:51,760 --> 01:30:52,280
Speaker 3: those things in.

1871
01:30:54,479 --> 01:30:56,080
Speaker 2: For his part, mc kesson has not been.

1872
01:30:55,960 --> 01:30:58,519
Speaker 3: Shopped out his willingness to discuss policy with anyone from

1873
01:30:58,560 --> 01:31:01,519
Speaker 3: Bernie Sanders to Martin on Male. His willingness to engage

1874
01:31:01,560 --> 01:31:04,719
Speaker 3: politicians officers a stark difference to the Black Lives Matter Network,

1875
01:31:04,960 --> 01:31:08,640
Speaker 3: but Casson infamously accepted an invitation for Hillary Clinton to

1876
01:31:08,680 --> 01:31:11,920
Speaker 3: attend her official rally on Roosevelt Allen in June. The

1877
01:31:12,080 --> 01:31:15,000
Speaker 3: network's activists had come to New England that day in

1878
01:31:15,040 --> 01:31:17,599
Speaker 3: August and tended they interrupt her. There were two different

1879
01:31:17,640 --> 01:31:21,559
Speaker 3: events months apart. These are two different events months apart.

1880
01:31:21,960 --> 01:31:25,240
Speaker 3: The tension between Campaign Zero and the Network came to

1881
01:31:25,360 --> 01:31:27,280
Speaker 3: a head when Macksson responded to a tweet from the

1882
01:31:27,280 --> 01:31:31,160
Speaker 3: Sanders campaign a meaning, by the way, why couldn't you

1883
01:31:31,240 --> 01:31:32,080
Speaker 3: interrupt her anyway?

1884
01:31:33,600 --> 01:31:36,240
Speaker 2: Just because d Raiser interrupted anyway? What the fuck? It's

1885
01:31:36,280 --> 01:31:40,120
Speaker 2: your shit, right, you know, Like that's what happens. That's

1886
01:31:40,120 --> 01:31:40,599
Speaker 2: what happens.

1887
01:31:41,439 --> 01:31:44,360
Speaker 3: He's like, people won't be confused. He's actively said I'm

1888
01:31:44,360 --> 01:31:46,439
Speaker 3: not part of this organization. They'll be like, Okay, y'all

1889
01:31:46,479 --> 01:31:51,360
Speaker 3: did that for y'all anyway? He responded to a tweet

1890
01:31:51,360 --> 01:31:53,639
Speaker 3: from the Sanders campaign a meeting between Sanders and campaign

1891
01:31:53,720 --> 01:31:57,200
Speaker 3: zeros Now and the Works activists and filmmaker Dream Hampton

1892
01:31:57,280 --> 01:32:00,160
Speaker 3: tweeted at the time that Sanders would do better to

1893
01:32:00,240 --> 01:32:04,639
Speaker 3: meet with leadership from Black Lives Matter network with both groups, right,

1894
01:32:05,120 --> 01:32:07,240
Speaker 3: and you know why he can't because Black Lives Matter

1895
01:32:07,280 --> 01:32:09,000
Speaker 3: wasn't ready to meet with him at the time, so

1896
01:32:09,080 --> 01:32:11,439
Speaker 3: they weren't They weren't gonna be able to meet with him,

1897
01:32:12,360 --> 01:32:13,880
Speaker 3: so it wouldn't you know what I mean? There was

1898
01:32:13,960 --> 01:32:16,240
Speaker 3: no like at this point, it was like, you need

1899
01:32:16,320 --> 01:32:18,120
Speaker 3: to wait till we do it and then you can,

1900
01:32:18,439 --> 01:32:21,320
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, which is like if the

1901
01:32:21,400 --> 01:32:28,760
Speaker 3: clock is ticking on people dying, like does it matter no? Well,

1902
01:32:28,920 --> 01:32:31,240
Speaker 3: like I know people want the credit for the work

1903
01:32:31,280 --> 01:32:34,240
Speaker 3: they've done, and I get it. But you know, it's

1904
01:32:34,320 --> 01:32:36,040
Speaker 3: not like he's done nothing and he just swoke me

1905
01:32:36,040 --> 01:32:37,920
Speaker 3: into the last second, like give me all the credit,

1906
01:32:38,000 --> 01:32:40,200
Speaker 3: you know what I mean? Right? While a meaning with

1907
01:32:40,320 --> 01:32:42,519
Speaker 3: d Well, she wrote, while a meaning with that Deray

1908
01:32:42,640 --> 01:32:45,200
Speaker 3: might be a blast, I would expect Bernie Sanders to

1909
01:32:45,280 --> 01:32:47,920
Speaker 3: meet with actual Black Lives Matter folks, those who forced

1910
01:32:47,920 --> 01:32:51,160
Speaker 3: this platform, which is kind of disingenuous because you know,

1911
01:32:51,400 --> 01:32:53,759
Speaker 3: while they may have forced the Bernie Sanders the latest

1912
01:32:53,800 --> 01:32:57,040
Speaker 3: iteration of him having to talk about it, it's not

1913
01:32:57,320 --> 01:32:59,519
Speaker 3: like I said, d Ray's just been doing nothing.

1914
01:32:59,600 --> 01:33:01,240
Speaker 2: It's not like Netta has been doing nothing.

1915
01:33:01,320 --> 01:33:04,240
Speaker 3: It's not like, you know, there's just some nobody's And

1916
01:33:04,400 --> 01:33:07,600
Speaker 3: then like the only thing people think about when they

1917
01:33:07,640 --> 01:33:09,800
Speaker 3: hit Black Lives Matter is this organization.

1918
01:33:09,439 --> 01:33:12,439
Speaker 2: Like they think about an entire movement of people.

1919
01:33:14,200 --> 01:33:16,639
Speaker 3: Activists with the Black Lives Matter Network, however, have said

1920
01:33:16,680 --> 01:33:18,479
Speaker 3: that they have no desire to meet with the candidate.

1921
01:33:18,600 --> 01:33:20,519
Speaker 2: So now you got people saying I don't even want

1922
01:33:20,520 --> 01:33:21,599
Speaker 2: to meet with them ever.

1923
01:33:22,600 --> 01:33:25,080
Speaker 3: So now the the labor comes so deray and those

1924
01:33:25,120 --> 01:33:28,720
Speaker 3: guys are supposed to not meet with ever until we

1925
01:33:28,880 --> 01:33:31,400
Speaker 3: feel like it's okay for y'all to do it, even

1926
01:33:31,439 --> 01:33:33,320
Speaker 3: though you don't belong to our group and we have

1927
01:33:33,479 --> 01:33:36,880
Speaker 3: no ownership over you, right, and you have ownership of us, right,

1928
01:33:37,200 --> 01:33:39,360
Speaker 3: including that the request of the Sanders campaign.

1929
01:33:39,080 --> 01:33:40,639
Speaker 2: After the activists in front of him in Seattle.

1930
01:33:41,400 --> 01:33:44,400
Speaker 3: According to the Ally of to the Ally, Black Lives

1931
01:33:44,439 --> 01:33:49,679
Speaker 3: Matter Network, activists are finalizing the blueprint for action similar

1932
01:33:49,920 --> 01:33:52,920
Speaker 3: in scale and ambition to Campaign zero. Activists are also

1933
01:33:52,960 --> 01:33:56,080
Speaker 3: setting up hierarchical infrastructure for the sole purpose of accountability,

1934
01:33:56,400 --> 01:33:58,960
Speaker 3: a reluctant course of action in the organization that Brackton

1935
01:33:59,040 --> 01:34:03,000
Speaker 3: is full of leaders away. This would have happened if

1936
01:34:03,320 --> 01:34:05,559
Speaker 3: deryand them would have joined up with Black Lives Matter,

1937
01:34:05,960 --> 01:34:07,720
Speaker 3: then it would have became about, well, why do they

1938
01:34:08,120 --> 01:34:10,400
Speaker 3: got the biggest names in Black Lives Matter? Why do

1939
01:34:10,479 --> 01:34:12,840
Speaker 3: they get all the credit? Why you know, why they

1940
01:34:12,920 --> 01:34:15,839
Speaker 3: got the more most Twitter followers, Why people won't interview

1941
01:34:15,880 --> 01:34:18,920
Speaker 3: them and now interview other people. It would have it

1942
01:34:19,520 --> 01:34:22,360
Speaker 3: still would have happened. It just would have happened within why,

1943
01:34:22,800 --> 01:34:25,519
Speaker 3: you know, because there's always gonna be human jealousy and.

1944
01:34:27,360 --> 01:34:27,880
Speaker 2: Can't help it.

1945
01:34:28,000 --> 01:34:30,600
Speaker 4: You're human, right, This human nature is sad as that

1946
01:34:30,720 --> 01:34:33,519
Speaker 4: may be when we have a larger calls, but people

1947
01:34:33,560 --> 01:34:34,240
Speaker 4: don't give a fuck.

1948
01:34:34,760 --> 01:34:38,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I mean it's like it's like I accept

1949
01:34:38,360 --> 01:34:41,759
Speaker 3: it as an inevitability and try to withhold judgment because

1950
01:34:41,800 --> 01:34:45,559
Speaker 3: it's inevitable as opposed to being like, you know, because

1951
01:34:45,640 --> 01:34:47,920
Speaker 3: my the thing I hate the most are the people

1952
01:34:48,000 --> 01:34:50,439
Speaker 3: that sit on Twitter and all these shit and just go.

1953
01:34:50,840 --> 01:34:54,360
Speaker 2: Why don't y'all just get alan. It's just sad to

1954
01:34:54,439 --> 01:34:56,360
Speaker 2: see y'all being like this.

1955
01:34:56,680 --> 01:34:58,760
Speaker 3: I mean really because at the end of the day,

1956
01:34:59,040 --> 01:35:01,120
Speaker 3: they're not gonna get a and it's and it really

1957
01:35:01,320 --> 01:35:04,080
Speaker 3: and no one is capable of getting along at this level,

1958
01:35:04,200 --> 01:35:07,160
Speaker 3: like history will smove it over in thirty years. People

1959
01:35:07,160 --> 01:35:10,160
Speaker 3: will write it like everybody got along, but in general,

1960
01:35:11,040 --> 01:35:13,559
Speaker 3: you're never no one's ever gotten along, no one's ever

1961
01:35:13,680 --> 01:35:13,960
Speaker 3: done that.

1962
01:35:14,800 --> 01:35:14,920
Speaker 4: You know.

1963
01:35:15,000 --> 01:35:16,760
Speaker 2: When there were slavery and people were like, I want to.

1964
01:35:16,760 --> 01:35:18,240
Speaker 3: Be free as a slave, there were people that were like,

1965
01:35:18,320 --> 01:35:20,600
Speaker 3: I like slavery, right, you know what I mean, Like

1966
01:35:21,800 --> 01:35:23,000
Speaker 3: you're just never gonna have it.

1967
01:35:23,080 --> 01:35:24,720
Speaker 2: So it's an unreasonable expectation.

1968
01:35:25,320 --> 01:35:27,360
Speaker 3: Which is one of the things I actually disliked about

1969
01:35:27,360 --> 01:35:30,240
Speaker 3: this article is that it really has no purpose because

1970
01:35:30,600 --> 01:35:33,080
Speaker 3: at the end of the article, it's kind of like, yeah,

1971
01:35:33,200 --> 01:35:35,880
Speaker 3: so you know, some niggas don't like the other niggas,

1972
01:35:35,960 --> 01:35:38,000
Speaker 3: Like we knew this right, this is this.

1973
01:35:38,160 --> 01:35:41,759
Speaker 4: Is not nothing new. Everybody didn't get along, and folks

1974
01:35:41,840 --> 01:35:44,760
Speaker 4: fall out. You have egos, you have personality types that

1975
01:35:44,920 --> 01:35:45,840
Speaker 4: conflicts with each other.

1976
01:35:45,920 --> 01:35:49,160
Speaker 3: It's a lot and it kind of does exactly what

1977
01:35:49,240 --> 01:35:52,439
Speaker 3: it accuses everybody else are doing. Makes d Ray's name

1978
01:35:52,520 --> 01:35:55,920
Speaker 3: the number one name while then blaming him for being

1979
01:35:55,920 --> 01:35:59,040
Speaker 3: the number one name. How about you write a feature

1980
01:35:59,120 --> 01:36:01,479
Speaker 3: article on all the other voices in Black Lives Matter

1981
01:36:01,560 --> 01:36:04,960
Speaker 3: that people aren't hearing from. If that's your complaint is

1982
01:36:05,040 --> 01:36:08,320
Speaker 3: this person's getting too much attention. Focus the spotlight on

1983
01:36:08,400 --> 01:36:10,200
Speaker 3: some other people that want to get their voice out there.

1984
01:36:11,000 --> 01:36:13,240
Speaker 3: You know, it doesn't necessarily have to be about one person.

1985
01:36:13,400 --> 01:36:16,400
Speaker 3: It's you know, I feel like people just have such

1986
01:36:16,439 --> 01:36:20,639
Speaker 3: a people just have such a tightrope that they want

1987
01:36:20,640 --> 01:36:22,960
Speaker 3: to put these people on. It's like no one can

1988
01:36:23,000 --> 01:36:26,000
Speaker 3: live up to these expectations. So why are you Why

1989
01:36:26,040 --> 01:36:26,760
Speaker 3: are you doing this?

1990
01:36:27,280 --> 01:36:27,439
Speaker 4: You know?

1991
01:36:29,960 --> 01:36:32,200
Speaker 2: Anyway, So, yeah, they're working on shit, and like it's

1992
01:36:32,200 --> 01:36:34,120
Speaker 2: a bigger organization. There's more people. By the way, this

1993
01:36:34,200 --> 01:36:36,880
Speaker 2: is one of the reasons that people keep their shit small.

1994
01:36:37,200 --> 01:36:39,479
Speaker 2: I'm not a joiner either, you know what I mean,

1995
01:36:39,600 --> 01:36:41,599
Speaker 2: personally as a person, not just for Black lives matter,

1996
01:36:41,760 --> 01:36:42,519
Speaker 2: in anything.

1997
01:36:42,840 --> 01:36:44,800
Speaker 3: It's one of the reasons that we have a quote

1998
01:36:44,840 --> 01:36:48,360
Speaker 3: unquote network. But the network is me and Karen, you

1999
01:36:48,400 --> 01:36:51,559
Speaker 3: know what I mean. Like Justin, who I consistently can

2000
01:36:51,600 --> 01:36:54,639
Speaker 3: rely upon to be here every Friday or every week,

2001
01:36:54,680 --> 01:36:56,639
Speaker 3: who loves being on the show, to do balls deep.

2002
01:36:56,800 --> 01:36:58,960
Speaker 2: That's the only other person I really will involve in

2003
01:36:59,040 --> 01:36:59,400
Speaker 2: this shit.

2004
01:36:59,680 --> 01:37:06,120
Speaker 3: Everybody else is really expendable or at least replaceable, because

2005
01:37:06,240 --> 01:37:09,920
Speaker 3: I don't like I don't like one gumbing up people's schedules,

2006
01:37:09,920 --> 01:37:11,439
Speaker 3: telling them what they need to be doing for me.

2007
01:37:12,120 --> 01:37:13,080
Speaker 2: I don't think that's fair.

2008
01:37:13,720 --> 01:37:18,080
Speaker 3: Right, And then too, I trust and rely on myself

2009
01:37:18,160 --> 01:37:20,200
Speaker 3: and caring more than I trust and rely on other people.

2010
01:37:20,760 --> 01:37:23,759
Speaker 3: And it gives us an ability to handle stuff faster

2011
01:37:24,240 --> 01:37:26,720
Speaker 3: than we would if we had twelve different podcasts, Like

2012
01:37:27,120 --> 01:37:29,760
Speaker 3: there's some networks whereas hey, it's seventeen different people and

2013
01:37:29,840 --> 01:37:30,840
Speaker 3: we all do this stuff.

2014
01:37:31,080 --> 01:37:33,320
Speaker 2: But you got to organize seventeen different schedules.

2015
01:37:33,360 --> 01:37:36,240
Speaker 3: And sometimes shows fall off, and sometimes people don't care anymore,

2016
01:37:36,600 --> 01:37:38,720
Speaker 3: or sometimes people get busy, or they have a kid,

2017
01:37:38,840 --> 01:37:41,479
Speaker 3: or they get whatever, and then it's like, oh, that

2018
01:37:41,560 --> 01:37:42,920
Speaker 3: show hasn't come out in three months.

2019
01:37:43,120 --> 01:37:43,800
Speaker 4: Yeah they don't.

2020
01:37:44,240 --> 01:37:46,559
Speaker 2: They're not as dedicated to your shit as you are

2021
01:37:46,680 --> 01:37:47,759
Speaker 2: to your own shit.

2022
01:37:48,160 --> 01:37:51,720
Speaker 3: And they're not as dedicated to whatever it is that

2023
01:37:52,640 --> 01:37:54,840
Speaker 3: you feel is the best way to go as other

2024
01:37:54,920 --> 01:37:58,280
Speaker 3: people would. So the smaller your organization is tighter your group,

2025
01:37:58,360 --> 01:38:00,439
Speaker 3: the easier it is to adapt than it do shit.

2026
01:38:00,600 --> 01:38:04,880
Speaker 3: You know a lot of times that the the all

2027
01:38:04,920 --> 01:38:08,280
Speaker 3: the homen in holloween will actually slow up your ability

2028
01:38:08,400 --> 01:38:12,519
Speaker 3: to work, you know. So I can understand the argument

2029
01:38:12,600 --> 01:38:15,479
Speaker 3: for having a smaller group as well as a bigger group.

2030
01:38:15,640 --> 01:38:17,440
Speaker 2: I can completely understand.

2031
01:38:17,040 --> 01:38:19,320
Speaker 4: Why because they both serve their purposes because there are

2032
01:38:19,400 --> 01:38:22,280
Speaker 4: things that a larger organization can do because you have

2033
01:38:22,439 --> 01:38:27,320
Speaker 4: more manpower, more money, your reaches further, you have more influence,

2034
01:38:27,479 --> 01:38:30,920
Speaker 4: like larger organizations to have a purpose also and they're

2035
01:38:30,920 --> 01:38:31,639
Speaker 4: not all bad.

2036
01:38:32,120 --> 01:38:34,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, And like the other part of this is with

2037
01:38:34,880 --> 01:38:37,240
Speaker 3: so many these people taking like having Twitter accounts of

2038
01:38:37,280 --> 01:38:40,200
Speaker 3: shit and we know that they have roles in these organizations.

2039
01:38:40,720 --> 01:38:44,320
Speaker 2: When you publicly come for somebody, everybody sees it. Everybody

2040
01:38:44,560 --> 01:38:45,240
Speaker 2: like we can't like.

2041
01:38:45,280 --> 01:38:48,320
Speaker 3: You can't even pretend like, oh, this is some bullshit,

2042
01:38:48,360 --> 01:38:51,120
Speaker 3: it's all fake, Like no, we saw it. We saw it,

2043
01:38:51,240 --> 01:38:55,120
Speaker 3: like people that aren't even like involved see the ship

2044
01:38:55,160 --> 01:38:58,120
Speaker 3: because you can't miss it because everybody loves a good

2045
01:38:58,160 --> 01:39:01,760
Speaker 3: fight no matter what. And it turns into activisty hip

2046
01:39:01,800 --> 01:39:05,360
Speaker 3: hop and motherfuckers are you know bandwaggon on one side

2047
01:39:05,400 --> 01:39:09,160
Speaker 3: talking about the other side like like it's like, like

2048
01:39:09,280 --> 01:39:12,559
Speaker 3: I said, we just have a level of access now

2049
01:39:13,160 --> 01:39:16,280
Speaker 3: in twenty fifteen that's just unprecedented and we don't have

2050
01:39:16,479 --> 01:39:19,840
Speaker 3: the scope of time to truly reflect back on these

2051
01:39:19,920 --> 01:39:21,760
Speaker 3: moments and be like oh, that was no big deal

2052
01:39:22,439 --> 01:39:25,800
Speaker 3: in the in the interim, like the in the immediacy

2053
01:39:26,000 --> 01:39:31,280
Speaker 3: of our analysis of it, it is completely a big deal.

2054
01:39:32,160 --> 01:39:35,240
Speaker 3: But in like in six months, am I gonna be like,

2055
01:39:36,040 --> 01:39:39,800
Speaker 3: you know, man, Deray really got into it with so

2056
01:39:39,920 --> 01:39:42,599
Speaker 3: and so. No, I probably won't give a fuck, Like remember,

2057
01:39:42,960 --> 01:39:46,040
Speaker 3: something else will happen by then, you know. Anyway, the

2058
01:39:46,080 --> 01:39:50,000
Speaker 3: bigger lesson from all this shit is as always, twenty

2059
01:39:50,560 --> 01:39:52,799
Speaker 3: some hours from another black person down and then everybody

2060
01:39:52,840 --> 01:39:53,880
Speaker 3: having to not care about this shit.

2061
01:39:53,960 --> 01:39:56,360
Speaker 4: That's my whole point. And then everybody's gonna be on

2062
01:39:56,439 --> 01:39:59,679
Speaker 4: the same page, every group, no matter what fucking group

2063
01:39:59,760 --> 01:40:02,280
Speaker 4: you are. You're gonna be grinding, You're gonna be protesting,

2064
01:40:02,360 --> 01:40:05,160
Speaker 4: you're gonna be holding up signs, everybody's gonna be organizing,

2065
01:40:05,360 --> 01:40:08,639
Speaker 4: everybody's gonna be going out there regardless of what's happening,

2066
01:40:08,680 --> 01:40:11,200
Speaker 4: because at the end of the day, the goal is

2067
01:40:11,400 --> 01:40:15,519
Speaker 4: larger than anything else. The goal, the end results. I

2068
01:40:15,520 --> 01:40:17,160
Speaker 4: don't give a fuck if you get along or not.

2069
01:40:17,439 --> 01:40:20,200
Speaker 4: All I know is that I want a result of

2070
01:40:20,280 --> 01:40:22,920
Speaker 4: black people stop to stop being shot in the streets.

2071
01:40:23,040 --> 01:40:24,720
Speaker 4: How you get there, I don't care.

2072
01:40:25,120 --> 01:40:27,479
Speaker 3: That's what's so crazy, too, is like, you know, you

2073
01:40:27,600 --> 01:40:32,240
Speaker 3: got these people that are like, you know, working on

2074
01:40:32,320 --> 01:40:34,960
Speaker 3: the ground for all these same goals, but.

2075
01:40:36,439 --> 01:40:37,400
Speaker 2: We're not a modelift.

2076
01:40:37,560 --> 01:40:40,200
Speaker 3: We're like, we are gonna have different approaches, People are

2077
01:40:40,240 --> 01:40:45,479
Speaker 3: gonna like different things about different stuff, and whatever people

2078
01:40:46,320 --> 01:40:50,280
Speaker 3: are attracted to. That that's positive to me, like, you know,

2079
01:40:50,320 --> 01:40:52,960
Speaker 3: because it's still attracted to the same impetus, the same

2080
01:40:53,200 --> 01:40:55,760
Speaker 3: thing that they want to see solved. So I don't

2081
01:40:55,840 --> 01:40:59,280
Speaker 3: understand why anybody would be against this, you know what

2082
01:40:59,360 --> 01:41:02,560
Speaker 3: I mean. Yeah, Like I said, for me, personally, I

2083
01:41:02,640 --> 01:41:07,200
Speaker 3: never had an expectation that everybody's gonna get along, So

2084
01:41:07,280 --> 01:41:08,360
Speaker 3: it was very easy.

2085
01:41:08,160 --> 01:41:10,719
Speaker 2: For me to be like, oh, yeah, them two people

2086
01:41:10,720 --> 01:41:13,320
Speaker 2: don't like each other. Oh well, you know what I mean.

2087
01:41:13,360 --> 01:41:15,439
Speaker 3: With the Sean King shit, there were people, there are

2088
01:41:15,479 --> 01:41:17,240
Speaker 3: people on Twitter that are like, I don't fuck with

2089
01:41:17,320 --> 01:41:19,759
Speaker 3: Sean King, And I was like, and I remember.

2090
01:41:19,520 --> 01:41:21,000
Speaker 2: When we did the shaw. I was like, Yo, look

2091
01:41:21,040 --> 01:41:23,479
Speaker 2: at the source of this article. It's probably not true.

2092
01:41:23,600 --> 01:41:28,000
Speaker 3: And if anything is, like, if you're co signing it

2093
01:41:28,120 --> 01:41:31,360
Speaker 3: without even looking into what they're talking about, it's more

2094
01:41:31,439 --> 01:41:33,920
Speaker 3: than likely that you already had a problem with this dude,

2095
01:41:33,920 --> 01:41:36,120
Speaker 3: and you're hoping that this is true, right, so that

2096
01:41:36,200 --> 01:41:39,400
Speaker 3: you can have a personal ven debta settle, But how

2097
01:41:39,520 --> 01:41:39,680
Speaker 3: is that?

2098
01:41:40,200 --> 01:41:41,679
Speaker 2: How is that productive for anything?

2099
01:41:42,040 --> 01:41:44,599
Speaker 4: It is not, you know what I mean. And at

2100
01:41:44,640 --> 01:41:46,720
Speaker 4: the end of the day, that bullet don't give a

2101
01:41:46,840 --> 01:41:50,360
Speaker 4: fuck about what's what your personal beefs, your personal gripes.

2102
01:41:50,520 --> 01:41:53,360
Speaker 4: You're getting along, you're not getting along, what part what

2103
01:41:53,560 --> 01:41:57,719
Speaker 4: organization you're in. They don't give a fuck when somebody dies,

2104
01:41:58,040 --> 01:42:01,000
Speaker 4: but you do. So your job is to continue to

2105
01:42:01,120 --> 01:42:03,439
Speaker 4: do what you do, however it is that you're doing it,

2106
01:42:03,560 --> 01:42:06,519
Speaker 4: and that's as long as you have people grinding, that's

2107
01:42:06,560 --> 01:42:09,560
Speaker 4: all that matters, because you're winning to sacrifice and go

2108
01:42:09,720 --> 01:42:12,080
Speaker 4: out your way and do shit that other people are

2109
01:42:12,200 --> 01:42:14,760
Speaker 4: not willing to do. So I applaud you in your

2110
01:42:14,840 --> 01:42:16,800
Speaker 4: work and your methods is irrelevant to me.

2111
01:42:17,240 --> 01:42:17,439
Speaker 10: Yeah.

2112
01:42:17,600 --> 01:42:19,720
Speaker 3: Well, the thing with the Twitter account now is, you know,

2113
01:42:19,880 --> 01:42:22,560
Speaker 3: it's kind of like Twitter people shit on celebrities, but

2114
01:42:22,640 --> 01:42:24,840
Speaker 3: everybody gets a chance to be a celebrity with Twitter

2115
01:42:24,920 --> 01:42:26,560
Speaker 3: and shit. It's kind of proven that we all have

2116
01:42:26,720 --> 01:42:30,040
Speaker 3: that instinct inside of us. So it's just part of

2117
01:42:30,120 --> 01:42:31,880
Speaker 3: the It's just part of the process. People are gonna

2118
01:42:31,880 --> 01:42:33,599
Speaker 3: want to take credit for the shit that they've done.

2119
01:42:34,200 --> 01:42:37,479
Speaker 3: Whether it's stuff that you feel like like, no matter

2120
01:42:37,520 --> 01:42:40,840
Speaker 3: how you feel, you might feel like people should be like, oh,

2121
01:42:40,920 --> 01:42:43,360
Speaker 3: it's about the calls, not me getting credit. That's not

2122
01:42:43,520 --> 01:42:45,880
Speaker 3: how life has ever worked, you know what I mean.

2123
01:42:45,960 --> 01:42:48,200
Speaker 3: People are like, yeah, it's about the cause. But also

2124
01:42:48,439 --> 01:42:52,880
Speaker 3: I came up with blank put you know, trademark, you know,

2125
01:42:52,960 --> 01:42:55,479
Speaker 3: give me my credit. Like there was some woman that

2126
01:42:55,600 --> 01:42:58,320
Speaker 3: tried to take the black girl magic, you know, the

2127
01:42:58,880 --> 01:43:02,640
Speaker 3: thing that you know people have been the hashtag and

2128
01:43:02,640 --> 01:43:06,760
Speaker 3: stuff a person that was not the creator of the

2129
01:43:06,840 --> 01:43:11,720
Speaker 3: black girl black Girls are Magic hashtag or the gear

2130
01:43:11,800 --> 01:43:14,160
Speaker 3: that that's been sold or any of the stuff. There

2131
01:43:14,280 --> 01:43:16,400
Speaker 3: was a woman who tried to start a magazine with

2132
01:43:16,479 --> 01:43:22,080
Speaker 3: that what yep, yep, yep own this. She was on

2133
01:43:22,160 --> 01:43:26,519
Speaker 3: Twitter telling the creator of it that you know, hey,

2134
01:43:26,640 --> 01:43:28,600
Speaker 3: I got the right to do it. You ain't trademarked

2135
01:43:28,600 --> 01:43:31,360
Speaker 3: this and all this shit, which I'm not so sure

2136
01:43:31,479 --> 01:43:35,160
Speaker 3: that person understands how intellectual property works. And the problem

2137
01:43:35,320 --> 01:43:37,240
Speaker 3: is so many people on the outside looking in say

2138
01:43:37,280 --> 01:43:39,000
Speaker 3: stuff like why don't you just see them, I mean,

2139
01:43:39,080 --> 01:43:42,400
Speaker 3: show da da da da, or why don't you file

2140
01:43:42,439 --> 01:43:44,320
Speaker 3: the trademark? A lot of you that say that don't

2141
01:43:44,320 --> 01:43:45,640
Speaker 3: know what the fuck you're talking about. You don't have

2142
01:43:45,680 --> 01:43:47,240
Speaker 3: the money to know what you're talking about. You never

2143
01:43:47,320 --> 01:43:49,720
Speaker 3: tried to do anything like that, but and you don't

2144
01:43:49,720 --> 01:43:51,160
Speaker 3: even know where it protects you from, or if you

2145
01:43:51,240 --> 01:43:52,760
Speaker 3: need to protect it, or what kind of things you

2146
01:43:52,800 --> 01:43:55,000
Speaker 3: can protect it from, not to mention with the internet,

2147
01:43:55,160 --> 01:43:57,479
Speaker 3: all this shit is kind of new game for a

2148
01:43:57,560 --> 01:44:03,280
Speaker 3: lot of people. So it was just more of a like, yo,

2149
01:44:03,520 --> 01:44:06,559
Speaker 3: shame on you, Like you're gonna take another black woman's

2150
01:44:06,840 --> 01:44:10,519
Speaker 3: work and try to capitalize.

2151
01:44:09,920 --> 01:44:13,200
Speaker 2: Off of it, Like who's gonna support you, right.

2152
01:44:13,160 --> 01:44:15,680
Speaker 4: And not even collaborate with her, not work with her,

2153
01:44:16,160 --> 01:44:18,400
Speaker 4: and not be like I'm gonna do this. I give

2154
01:44:18,439 --> 01:44:21,679
Speaker 4: you a cut a piece of something. You're like, nope,

2155
01:44:21,880 --> 01:44:24,320
Speaker 4: I'm And not only do you have the balls to

2156
01:44:24,360 --> 01:44:26,080
Speaker 4: take this person's out, didn't run with it. You got

2157
01:44:26,160 --> 01:44:28,160
Speaker 4: the balls to say, kiss my ass, it's nothing you

2158
01:44:28,240 --> 01:44:30,120
Speaker 4: can do about it. And what you fail to realize

2159
01:44:30,160 --> 01:44:33,040
Speaker 4: they may be repercussions to that, but you act like

2160
01:44:33,560 --> 01:44:35,800
Speaker 4: it's the wild wild West and that the law won't

2161
01:44:35,800 --> 01:44:37,640
Speaker 4: step in and be like, hey, you can't.

2162
01:44:37,439 --> 01:44:42,120
Speaker 3: Do that right so anyway, but uh, yeah, you know

2163
01:44:42,320 --> 01:44:43,640
Speaker 3: it's I just think a lot of this is just

2164
01:44:43,680 --> 01:44:47,400
Speaker 3: people don't listen cause like I, like I said, I

2165
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Speaker 3: don't even like get all up into dere and Netta

2166
01:44:50,680 --> 01:44:53,639
Speaker 3: shit like that, or you know, I follow several people

2167
01:44:53,680 --> 01:44:55,800
Speaker 3: in Black Lives Matter, and I see when they talk

2168
01:44:55,840 --> 01:44:57,160
Speaker 3: about certain things or whatnot.

2169
01:44:57,240 --> 01:44:59,680
Speaker 2: But I'm not a religious follower of any of.

2170
01:44:59,640 --> 01:45:01,880
Speaker 3: These PEOP people that I see all their tweets, and

2171
01:45:02,040 --> 01:45:05,559
Speaker 3: even with me on a periphery, I've seen them say

2172
01:45:05,760 --> 01:45:08,840
Speaker 3: so much shit where it's like you know, I you

2173
01:45:08,920 --> 01:45:11,360
Speaker 3: know this movem is gonna keep going if I'm not here,

2174
01:45:11,960 --> 01:45:14,080
Speaker 3: or you know, the goal is not to have one

2175
01:45:14,160 --> 01:45:17,479
Speaker 3: name or one leader or you know, eventually I have

2176
01:45:17,600 --> 01:45:19,360
Speaker 3: to return back to my real life. You can't just

2177
01:45:19,439 --> 01:45:22,200
Speaker 3: do this forever or hey, I was just doing these

2178
01:45:22,280 --> 01:45:24,840
Speaker 3: things before Mike Brown died and now you know, like

2179
01:45:25,080 --> 01:45:27,200
Speaker 3: now people are thrusting out this weight upon me. But

2180
01:45:28,120 --> 01:45:30,240
Speaker 3: that you know, like that's not what I want to

2181
01:45:30,320 --> 01:45:30,880
Speaker 3: do forever.

2182
01:45:31,160 --> 01:45:33,559
Speaker 2: Like I want to also go back to being able

2183
01:45:33,600 --> 01:45:36,160
Speaker 2: to have fun and watch TV and talk about.

2184
01:45:35,960 --> 01:45:39,120
Speaker 3: Go to concerts and ship like this is like like

2185
01:45:39,360 --> 01:45:42,840
Speaker 3: I'm not out to become activist celebrity. People don't give

2186
01:45:42,880 --> 01:45:45,160
Speaker 3: a fuck. You know, I've seen so many interviews where

2187
01:45:45,240 --> 01:45:48,960
Speaker 3: Derey's corrected people like, hey, black lives I'm not I'm

2188
01:45:49,000 --> 01:45:50,040
Speaker 3: not in Black Lives.

2189
01:45:49,840 --> 01:45:52,760
Speaker 4: Matter, you know, I don't give the group.

2190
01:45:52,840 --> 01:45:55,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you you know, like I said, I did interviews,

2191
01:45:55,200 --> 01:45:57,240
Speaker 3: what I got caught, well, I was just like I said,

2192
01:45:57,240 --> 01:46:00,439
Speaker 3: the opposite of that. You don't even give up because

2193
01:46:00,439 --> 01:46:02,760
Speaker 3: it's lazy and it's easy for you. And if I

2194
01:46:02,840 --> 01:46:04,960
Speaker 3: say it on Twitter, people don't care. And if you

2195
01:46:05,000 --> 01:46:07,719
Speaker 3: put it in your article, people assume that's what was said.

2196
01:46:08,320 --> 01:46:11,479
Speaker 3: You know, like I said, every single interview I did,

2197
01:46:12,280 --> 01:46:15,679
Speaker 3: every single one. I was like, here are the women

2198
01:46:15,760 --> 01:46:19,719
Speaker 3: that took the stage at the events, and I think.

2199
01:46:19,680 --> 01:46:23,800
Speaker 2: One article found those people. One article, you know what

2200
01:46:23,840 --> 01:46:24,840
Speaker 2: I mean, interviews I did.

2201
01:46:25,040 --> 01:46:29,800
Speaker 3: They don't care what you say a black activist, Twitter, lobbyist, comedian,

2202
01:46:29,960 --> 01:46:33,000
Speaker 3: podcast like, they don't give a fuck. They're just like, nope,

2203
01:46:33,040 --> 01:46:35,280
Speaker 3: I found the person I want to talk to and

2204
01:46:35,680 --> 01:46:39,559
Speaker 3: I'm done. I'm not trying to like and you know, luckily,

2205
01:46:39,600 --> 01:46:42,360
Speaker 3: I'm a nobody in that phrase, and I don't want

2206
01:46:42,400 --> 01:46:45,080
Speaker 3: to be any of that shit. So nobody has to

2207
01:46:45,160 --> 01:46:46,599
Speaker 3: come to me and be like you tried to take

2208
01:46:47,160 --> 01:46:49,439
Speaker 3: and all the credit for this, because that's That's.

2209
01:46:49,320 --> 01:46:51,559
Speaker 2: What I kept thinking was Ghama was like, soon's gonna

2210
01:46:51,560 --> 01:46:51,800
Speaker 2: say I.

2211
01:46:51,800 --> 01:46:54,080
Speaker 3: Took all the credit, while I obviously was telling people

2212
01:46:54,200 --> 01:46:56,760
Speaker 3: I'm not taking any credit, Please don't do that, even

2213
01:46:56,800 --> 01:46:58,720
Speaker 3: though they would didn't go right whatever the fuck they

2214
01:46:58,760 --> 01:47:02,200
Speaker 3: wanted to write. So and I'm not as influence towards

2215
01:47:02,240 --> 01:47:04,240
Speaker 3: those people. I'm not as propably as those people. I

2216
01:47:04,360 --> 01:47:07,400
Speaker 3: can imagine what the fuck happens with other people, and

2217
01:47:07,520 --> 01:47:10,320
Speaker 3: how shady shit can be and how lazy people can be,

2218
01:47:10,600 --> 01:47:13,599
Speaker 3: and the impact that it has, because I've seen people

2219
01:47:13,680 --> 01:47:16,160
Speaker 3: attack people over articles and shit where you're like, that's

2220
01:47:16,240 --> 01:47:19,080
Speaker 3: not a quote from that person, like some the fucking

2221
01:47:19,120 --> 01:47:20,880
Speaker 3: author just decided to put that in there, and you're

2222
01:47:20,880 --> 01:47:21,719
Speaker 3: treating it like it came.

2223
01:47:21,640 --> 01:47:23,479
Speaker 2: Out that person's mouth. People don't give a fuck.

2224
01:47:25,960 --> 01:47:30,400
Speaker 3: Matt Damon successfully I mean interrupt successful black woman filmmaker

2225
01:47:30,479 --> 01:47:31,840
Speaker 3: to oh wait, we didn't say.

2226
01:47:31,840 --> 01:47:33,600
Speaker 2: Zero to one hundred on that one hundred for me

2227
01:47:33,840 --> 01:47:34,320
Speaker 2: of course.

2228
01:47:34,479 --> 01:47:37,160
Speaker 3: All right, Matt dam Man interrupts sucessful black woman filmmaker

2229
01:47:37,240 --> 01:47:38,400
Speaker 3: to explain diversity to her.

2230
01:47:39,840 --> 01:47:43,679
Speaker 2: All right, so one hundred, all right, yeah, Matt Damon,

2231
01:47:44,360 --> 01:47:44,840
Speaker 2: all right.

2232
01:47:46,160 --> 01:47:48,800
Speaker 3: Uh, but yeah, he has a project runway or something

2233
01:47:48,880 --> 01:47:52,680
Speaker 3: like that, and uh. This black woman was one of

2234
01:47:52,720 --> 01:47:59,320
Speaker 3: the contestants won the finalists. She her name is Effie Brown.

2235
01:48:00,120 --> 01:48:02,519
Speaker 3: She's experienced Hollywood producer and a black woman. She produced

2236
01:48:02,520 --> 01:48:08,720
Speaker 3: seventeen feature films, including Dear White People. And apparently she

2237
01:48:08,880 --> 01:48:12,120
Speaker 3: went to go bring up that the only black woman

2238
01:48:12,200 --> 01:48:14,800
Speaker 3: in this film they were producing having to be a

2239
01:48:14,840 --> 01:48:18,880
Speaker 3: prostitute get slapped by a white man and Matt Damon

2240
01:48:18,960 --> 01:48:24,640
Speaker 3: basically cut her off, and she because she said all

2241
01:48:25,439 --> 01:48:27,280
Speaker 3: all she said is that perhaps this room full of

2242
01:48:27,320 --> 01:48:29,320
Speaker 3: white people might be cognizant of who they hired to

2243
01:48:29,400 --> 01:48:32,800
Speaker 3: direct the character like that aka hires someone the color

2244
01:48:32,880 --> 01:48:33,840
Speaker 3: so they can treat the row with.

2245
01:48:33,840 --> 01:48:36,160
Speaker 2: Some dignity and prevented from descending into a racist troupe.

2246
01:48:36,760 --> 01:48:39,200
Speaker 3: And she says, you're looking at this, You're looking at

2247
01:48:39,200 --> 01:48:42,840
Speaker 3: this group right here, and who are your picking and

2248
01:48:42,960 --> 01:48:46,080
Speaker 3: the story that you're doing, she said, calmly. Then Matt

2249
01:48:46,160 --> 01:48:52,640
Speaker 3: Damon swooped on in and I said, uh, let me

2250
01:48:52,680 --> 01:48:56,320
Speaker 3: explain some diversity to you. He argues that actually the

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01:48:56,439 --> 01:48:59,840
Speaker 3: less diverse directing teams brought up the same issue of

2252
01:49:00,000 --> 01:49:03,080
Speaker 3: about the prostitute character that Effie was raising. So it's like, look,

2253
01:49:03,120 --> 01:49:06,840
Speaker 3: white people saw this as possibly being racist too. Every

2254
01:49:06,920 --> 01:49:09,719
Speaker 3: counters by saying that his summation is not necessarily true,

2255
01:49:10,040 --> 01:49:12,360
Speaker 3: and Matt Damon interrupts her again, this time by laying

2256
01:49:12,400 --> 01:49:14,679
Speaker 3: out what exactly diversity is. He says, when we're talking

2257
01:49:14,680 --> 01:49:17,240
Speaker 3: about diversity, you do it in the casting of the film,

2258
01:49:17,360 --> 01:49:23,920
Speaker 3: not in the casting of the show, which such bullshit, right, Like, hey, we.

2259
01:49:24,120 --> 01:49:28,479
Speaker 2: Cast some black people, so black actors are in it.

2260
01:49:28,560 --> 01:49:32,720
Speaker 3: There for as diverse as if black directors don't bring

2261
01:49:33,040 --> 01:49:37,400
Speaker 3: diversity or even more diversity to a lot of stuff, right,

2262
01:49:38,479 --> 01:49:41,960
Speaker 3: Not to mention, the directors and producers and writers are

2263
01:49:41,960 --> 01:49:43,240
Speaker 3: the people that create these things.

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01:49:44,320 --> 01:49:48,200
Speaker 2: The creative side of this does matter. While I'm not

2265
01:49:48,320 --> 01:49:49,879
Speaker 2: saying this means all white.

2266
01:49:49,680 --> 01:49:52,920
Speaker 3: People can't create black characters and shit like that, but

2267
01:49:53,160 --> 01:49:57,000
Speaker 3: in general, that's a good excuse to keep black.

2268
01:49:57,120 --> 01:50:00,400
Speaker 2: It's like saying, why do we need black co in

2269
01:50:00,439 --> 01:50:03,639
Speaker 2: the NFL? I mean, we got black players on the field.

2270
01:50:03,720 --> 01:50:06,240
Speaker 3: It's like, well, there's two different jobs, and why wouldn't

2271
01:50:06,280 --> 01:50:08,120
Speaker 3: we want to diversify both?

2272
01:50:09,000 --> 01:50:09,200
Speaker 4: Right?

2273
01:50:09,840 --> 01:50:12,600
Speaker 2: Well, like, why is this either or shit happening that?

2274
01:50:12,760 --> 01:50:14,599
Speaker 4: That's not how it had to happen, right, It's okay

2275
01:50:14,680 --> 01:50:16,200
Speaker 4: to get him out there like that. But it's not

2276
01:50:16,320 --> 01:50:18,040
Speaker 4: okay to get us in the place where you have

2277
01:50:18,160 --> 01:50:19,439
Speaker 4: to think, right, I.

2278
01:50:19,560 --> 01:50:23,400
Speaker 1: Just would want to urge people to think about, whoever

2279
01:50:23,479 --> 01:50:25,800
Speaker 1: this director is the way that they're going to treat

2280
01:50:25,960 --> 01:50:28,880
Speaker 1: the character of Harmony, her being a prostitute, the only

2281
01:50:28,960 --> 01:50:31,400
Speaker 1: black person being a hooker who gets hit by her

2282
01:50:31,439 --> 01:50:31,800
Speaker 1: white pen.

2283
01:50:32,040 --> 01:50:35,400
Speaker 2: We brought up to each other, so I think on

2284
01:50:35,560 --> 01:50:36,840
Speaker 2: the surface, they look.

2285
01:50:36,800 --> 01:50:38,800
Speaker 5: Like one thing, but they might end up giving us

2286
01:50:39,160 --> 01:50:40,720
Speaker 5: something that we don't want.

2287
01:50:40,880 --> 01:50:43,960
Speaker 2: And we're talking about diversity. You do it in the

2288
01:50:44,080 --> 01:50:46,280
Speaker 2: casting of the film, not in the casting of the show.

2289
01:50:47,000 --> 01:50:52,519
Speaker 4: Who yeah, wow, Okay, yes that is your response because

2290
01:50:52,560 --> 01:50:55,599
Speaker 4: you're like what you're looking like? I know you didn't

2291
01:50:55,600 --> 01:50:56,560
Speaker 4: say that bullshit to me.

2292
01:50:56,920 --> 01:51:00,599
Speaker 2: Yep, zero look him all.

2293
01:51:00,520 --> 01:51:03,599
Speaker 3: Right, that is not a number, but I'm assume that's

2294
01:51:03,600 --> 01:51:07,320
Speaker 3: one hundred. Yeah, one hundred for me too. That's pretty terrible.

2295
01:51:07,360 --> 01:51:10,280
Speaker 3: Matt Damon, right, pretty fucking.

2296
01:51:10,120 --> 01:51:14,360
Speaker 4: Terrible with confidence to like word like this is what

2297
01:51:14,479 --> 01:51:15,120
Speaker 4: we're about to do.

2298
01:51:15,520 --> 01:51:16,160
Speaker 2: And he edited.

2299
01:51:16,320 --> 01:51:18,439
Speaker 3: You know, he's the person that you know has as

2300
01:51:18,479 --> 01:51:20,160
Speaker 3: a producer of the show, So that means he either

2301
01:51:20,200 --> 01:51:22,280
Speaker 3: put it in there because he was, like I told her,

2302
01:51:23,120 --> 01:51:25,120
Speaker 3: or he put it in there, like, look, how stupid

2303
01:51:25,160 --> 01:51:25,760
Speaker 3: I can be too.

2304
01:51:26,520 --> 01:51:27,320
Speaker 2: What do you think it is?

2305
01:51:29,400 --> 01:51:29,720
Speaker 4: I don't know.

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01:51:29,960 --> 01:51:31,320
Speaker 3: I think he put it in there because he thinks

2307
01:51:31,320 --> 01:51:34,680
Speaker 3: he said something smart. That's my guess, because that was

2308
01:51:34,680 --> 01:51:41,000
Speaker 3: stupid as fuck. Yeah, anyway, let's just do guess the race.

2309
01:51:41,240 --> 01:51:43,679
Speaker 2: No ball alert tonight. He don't want to watch the Eagles.

2310
01:51:44,800 --> 01:51:47,679
Speaker 4: Now that is time for some guests. The race.

2311
01:51:48,560 --> 01:51:50,719
Speaker 2: That's right, this guess the race time.

2312
01:51:52,400 --> 01:51:54,559
Speaker 4: Now, that is time for some guests.

2313
01:51:54,680 --> 01:52:00,880
Speaker 2: The race. That's right, this guest the race time. That's right.

2314
01:52:00,960 --> 01:52:03,040
Speaker 2: It's time for a gust. The race.

2315
01:52:03,520 --> 01:52:05,519
Speaker 3: The number one game show going across all the podcasts,

2316
01:52:05,560 --> 01:52:07,840
Speaker 3: and we read the play news arcas all over the globe,

2317
01:52:08,000 --> 01:52:10,760
Speaker 3: and we asked our contestants this time the chat room too,

2318
01:52:10,840 --> 01:52:13,160
Speaker 3: guests bu praise c.

2319
01:52:13,360 --> 01:52:18,040
Speaker 2: The chat room is prasis. That's hell. All right, let's

2320
01:52:18,080 --> 01:52:18,600
Speaker 2: get into it.

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01:52:19,320 --> 01:52:22,439
Speaker 3: A man finds a strange couple in his bed after

2322
01:52:22,520 --> 01:52:25,000
Speaker 3: the roommate, after his roommate.

2323
01:52:25,080 --> 01:52:31,000
Speaker 2: Airbnb's his condo, oh, without his permission.

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01:52:32,840 --> 01:52:33,000
Speaker 11: You know.

2325
01:52:33,200 --> 01:52:40,040
Speaker 2: Airbnb is that thing where people uh uh, you know,

2326
01:52:40,960 --> 01:52:46,400
Speaker 2: people can get a little bit what was that sound anyway? Uh,

2327
01:52:47,240 --> 01:52:48,559
Speaker 2: people can get a little bit.

2328
01:52:50,640 --> 01:52:53,880
Speaker 3: Uh cozy in your home. You know, you basically rent

2329
01:52:53,920 --> 01:52:57,360
Speaker 3: out your home like you would a like a like

2330
01:52:57,439 --> 01:52:58,160
Speaker 3: a hotel.

2331
01:52:58,760 --> 01:53:01,960
Speaker 4: Some people, some people they've had one of what experienced,

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01:53:02,000 --> 01:53:05,360
Speaker 4: They say they save a lot of money going this route.

2333
01:53:06,439 --> 01:53:10,000
Speaker 2: Uh so, yeah, let you see if I could play

2334
01:53:10,040 --> 01:53:11,280
Speaker 2: it well.

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01:53:11,320 --> 01:53:12,759
Speaker 6: You know, it could be a little nerve wrecking.

2336
01:53:12,840 --> 01:53:14,760
Speaker 5: You rent out your home to a stranger to make

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01:53:14,800 --> 01:53:17,560
Speaker 5: some extra money. But what if that tenant decide to

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01:53:17,600 --> 01:53:20,000
Speaker 5: make a little money of his own and sublet while

2339
01:53:20,040 --> 01:53:22,400
Speaker 5: you're out of town CBS two's Mike Parker.

2340
01:53:22,479 --> 01:53:25,599
Speaker 3: So you rent out your apartment to a roommate basically,

2341
01:53:26,439 --> 01:53:29,920
Speaker 3: and then they ran out your shit to Airbnb because

2342
01:53:29,920 --> 01:53:30,479
Speaker 3: you went out of town.

2343
01:53:30,960 --> 01:53:33,600
Speaker 5: Found a man looking for answers after it happened to

2344
01:53:33,680 --> 01:53:35,560
Speaker 5: him in this original report.

2345
01:53:36,320 --> 01:53:38,000
Speaker 6: Your house is like invaded some of the stuff in

2346
01:53:38,080 --> 01:53:38,360
Speaker 6: my bed.

2347
01:53:38,680 --> 01:53:41,439
Speaker 7: Robert Corwin is a digital artist who lives part time

2348
01:53:41,520 --> 01:53:46,160
Speaker 7: in California and part time in this West Town neighborhood condo. Recently,

2349
01:53:46,240 --> 01:53:49,160
Speaker 7: he came back to Chicago and found a young couple

2350
01:53:49,360 --> 01:53:52,599
Speaker 7: living in the master bedroom. His liquor supply was gone,

2351
01:53:52,640 --> 01:53:55,120
Speaker 7: and there was a hookah on the dining room table.

2352
01:53:55,280 --> 01:53:57,760
Speaker 6: Your imagination goes crazy, what's going on? He could be

2353
01:53:57,800 --> 01:54:01,519
Speaker 6: everything from Orge's to Blake drugs.

2354
01:54:01,720 --> 01:54:03,680
Speaker 7: As he escorted them out, they told him they had

2355
01:54:03,760 --> 01:54:07,080
Speaker 7: rented the room on the website airb and b. That's

2356
01:54:07,120 --> 01:54:10,639
Speaker 7: an online service that hooks up worldwide travelers with property

2357
01:54:10,680 --> 01:54:14,120
Speaker 7: owners with extra room to rent. But Corwin had never

2358
01:54:14,280 --> 01:54:16,160
Speaker 7: listed his property on Airbnb.

2359
01:54:16,360 --> 01:54:18,360
Speaker 6: Who did so this would have been his room.

2360
01:54:18,600 --> 01:54:20,559
Speaker 7: He believes it was the young man who had been

2361
01:54:20,680 --> 01:54:24,360
Speaker 7: living there with his permission, renting the second bedroom. Sure enough,

2362
01:54:24,880 --> 01:54:26,720
Speaker 7: he found the listing on Airbnb.

2363
01:54:27,200 --> 01:54:31,120
Speaker 6: This is the two ads that roommate put up my place.

2364
01:54:31,479 --> 01:54:32,560
Speaker 6: He even used my photo.

2365
01:54:32,760 --> 01:54:35,440
Speaker 7: The roommate has now been tossed out, and Corwin is

2366
01:54:35,520 --> 01:54:37,760
Speaker 7: now asking Airbnb for help, so.

2367
01:54:37,840 --> 01:54:40,520
Speaker 6: Me that can go after him, or they could stop

2368
01:54:40,600 --> 01:54:43,360
Speaker 6: him from ever doing it. But they're not. They're just like,

2369
01:54:43,680 --> 01:54:44,520
Speaker 6: we're not doing anything.

2370
01:54:44,760 --> 01:54:48,560
Speaker 7: The company says Airbnb does not own, operate, manage, or

2371
01:54:48,680 --> 01:54:53,160
Speaker 7: control accommodations, nor do we verify private contract terms or

2372
01:54:53,600 --> 01:54:55,920
Speaker 7: arbitrate complaints from third parties.

2373
01:54:56,200 --> 01:55:01,080
Speaker 6: We feel violated somehow, Yeah, yeah, it's awful. Somebody invaded

2374
01:55:01,120 --> 01:55:01,520
Speaker 6: my nests.

2375
01:55:02,480 --> 01:55:06,360
Speaker 7: Shortly before airtime, Airbnb called us with this official reaction

2376
01:55:06,560 --> 01:55:09,720
Speaker 7: to our story and here it is this property is

2377
01:55:09,840 --> 01:55:13,520
Speaker 7: no longer listed on Airbnb, and we are reviewing this

2378
01:55:13,760 --> 01:55:14,720
Speaker 7: matter fully.

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01:55:15,000 --> 01:55:15,160
Speaker 11: Rob.

2380
01:55:15,600 --> 01:55:18,360
Speaker 5: The initial statement in that last time comes quite different.

2381
01:55:18,400 --> 01:55:18,520
Speaker 11: Mike.

2382
01:55:19,120 --> 01:55:22,400
Speaker 7: You have to wonder if they appreciate the security problem

2383
01:55:22,480 --> 01:55:25,240
Speaker 7: they apparently have and what steps they may take to

2384
01:55:25,360 --> 01:55:27,040
Speaker 7: try to solve it, because it's a serious one.

2385
01:55:27,120 --> 01:55:27,640
Speaker 6: Oh sure it is.

2386
01:55:28,640 --> 01:55:32,240
Speaker 4: No you news, dude, you talking contacted them and it

2387
01:55:32,400 --> 01:55:36,360
Speaker 4: was like, hey, now they got Airbnb commercials like they

2388
01:55:36,520 --> 01:55:38,640
Speaker 4: kind of stepping their game up and going big time.

2389
01:55:38,680 --> 01:55:40,880
Speaker 4: And you can't have people like I'm not using your service,

2390
01:55:41,200 --> 01:55:43,680
Speaker 4: and you need a policy to protect people from shit

2391
01:55:43,840 --> 01:55:45,360
Speaker 4: like this. Guarantee you this is not the first time

2392
01:55:45,400 --> 01:55:46,000
Speaker 4: this has happened.

2393
01:55:46,240 --> 01:55:46,440
Speaker 11: Yep.

2394
01:55:47,000 --> 01:55:50,480
Speaker 2: So guess the rights of the victim? Uh, I guess

2395
01:55:50,600 --> 01:55:51,640
Speaker 2: I'm just uncomforitable.

2396
01:55:51,920 --> 01:55:55,920
Speaker 3: It said at somebody's house, okay, Uh hustleman black wait white?

2397
01:55:56,080 --> 01:55:58,960
Speaker 2: Okay, he didn't put the piles on him? So white white? White?

2398
01:55:58,960 --> 01:56:02,000
Speaker 3: Did the Matt David prev that he's a hustler baby black,

2399
01:56:02,600 --> 01:56:07,600
Speaker 3: says Leslie White as snow Columbus got Columbus, Uh Clark

2400
01:56:07,640 --> 01:56:09,920
Speaker 3: grizzwold white? Oh, Leslie changed it to white as Matt

2401
01:56:10,000 --> 01:56:13,440
Speaker 3: Damon's penis white privilege, white white as the driving snow

2402
01:56:13,560 --> 01:56:16,560
Speaker 3: white black man, white black man would have locked his

2403
01:56:16,720 --> 01:56:18,120
Speaker 3: room door while he was gone.

2404
01:56:20,000 --> 01:56:21,160
Speaker 2: Correct answer is.

2405
01:56:28,400 --> 01:56:35,960
Speaker 4: You want to dance, I'm gonna make you, Dan, I'm

2406
01:56:35,960 --> 01:56:43,280
Speaker 4: gonna make you ship. I can't. That's some.

2407
01:56:44,840 --> 01:56:53,520
Speaker 8: Sitting jay walking around like yo, because.

2408
01:56:56,440 --> 01:57:03,600
Speaker 3: My cool, my Pansy Taylor, Please, that's going on deep

2409
01:57:03,680 --> 01:57:05,800
Speaker 3: in my heart, baby, I.

2410
01:57:05,880 --> 01:57:10,680
Speaker 2: Know that is wrong in my bed, my.

2411
01:57:13,080 --> 01:57:13,280
Speaker 4: Plan.

2412
01:57:14,960 --> 01:57:18,720
Speaker 2: I'm just sleeping in my band.

2413
01:57:20,960 --> 01:57:22,080
Speaker 3: With my head.

2414
01:57:23,880 --> 01:57:35,040
Speaker 2: In my plane airline expecting warm and brains. But something wrong.

2415
01:57:35,800 --> 01:57:41,840
Speaker 2: That's red and on your bag. That's right here.

2416
01:57:42,440 --> 01:57:44,240
Speaker 3: They were sleeping in his bed in the coreag dances

2417
01:57:44,360 --> 01:57:53,640
Speaker 3: like sleeping in his airbnb right right.

2418
01:57:53,720 --> 01:57:56,240
Speaker 4: And my thing is that I guarantee you this is

2419
01:57:56,360 --> 01:57:58,240
Speaker 4: not Why don't you have a policy for this?

2420
01:57:59,840 --> 01:57:59,880
Speaker 5: You?

2421
01:58:00,080 --> 01:58:00,680
Speaker 2: How do you like?

2422
01:58:00,880 --> 01:58:03,080
Speaker 4: You need to have a policy for this? You need

2423
01:58:03,160 --> 01:58:07,360
Speaker 4: to confirm that whoever's doing this owns this property. Yeah,

2424
01:58:08,160 --> 01:58:11,400
Speaker 4: that would make sense to have a policy where you go, Okay,

2425
01:58:11,480 --> 01:58:13,880
Speaker 4: are you the owner of this property? Because if not,

2426
01:58:14,160 --> 01:58:17,440
Speaker 4: we cannot lease a sublease a sup your property. You

2427
01:58:17,520 --> 01:58:19,000
Speaker 4: cannot list somebody else.

2428
01:58:18,920 --> 01:58:23,760
Speaker 2: Shit and you don't own it seems very obvious that

2429
01:58:23,880 --> 01:58:24,480
Speaker 2: this would be.

2430
01:58:24,520 --> 01:58:28,000
Speaker 4: It's take a massive lawsuit for them to change that policy.

2431
01:58:28,560 --> 01:58:31,480
Speaker 4: So you mean to tell me I can go and

2432
01:58:32,040 --> 01:58:34,920
Speaker 4: somebody I'm written to staying somewhere and I can least

2433
01:58:35,000 --> 01:58:36,560
Speaker 4: your shit out without your permission.

2434
01:58:36,720 --> 01:58:38,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, it seems like an obvious loophole.

2435
01:58:38,680 --> 01:58:41,520
Speaker 4: Wait, and they was like oh. Then it was like, oh,

2436
01:58:41,640 --> 01:58:44,120
Speaker 4: we're going to news, y'all, the real news calling us.

2437
01:58:44,200 --> 01:58:45,880
Speaker 4: We can't we can't be like fuck it, like the

2438
01:58:45,920 --> 01:58:48,040
Speaker 4: first letter, we got to put an official statement.

2439
01:58:48,400 --> 01:58:51,680
Speaker 3: A Baptist college president's affair of revealed in shocking video

2440
01:58:51,840 --> 01:58:52,760
Speaker 3: shot by his son.

2441
01:58:53,360 --> 01:58:53,520
Speaker 4: Oh.

2442
01:58:54,520 --> 01:58:57,360
Speaker 3: Video post this week shows a former president of Baptist

2443
01:58:57,400 --> 01:59:00,640
Speaker 3: College in South Carolina cott during the runs with a

2444
01:59:00,720 --> 01:59:04,360
Speaker 3: woman who is not his wife, but it shows a

2445
01:59:04,440 --> 01:59:08,520
Speaker 3: man identified as Paul Epting telling his father Jimmy Epting,

2446
01:59:08,600 --> 01:59:09,400
Speaker 3: it's over, Dad.

2447
01:59:09,560 --> 01:59:11,800
Speaker 2: This is done at the pushing past him and filling

2448
01:59:11,840 --> 01:59:12,200
Speaker 2: the woman.

2449
01:59:12,640 --> 01:59:15,560
Speaker 3: It was shot last October, three months before the elder

2450
01:59:15,600 --> 01:59:18,200
Speaker 3: Epting announced that he would be taking a sabbatical for

2451
01:59:18,320 --> 01:59:21,280
Speaker 3: the twenty fifteen spring semester. He officially retired in May

2452
01:59:21,360 --> 01:59:25,880
Speaker 3: after twenty four years leading the school. It has come

2453
01:59:26,120 --> 01:59:29,320
Speaker 3: to our attention that a video service pertaining to our

2454
01:59:29,400 --> 01:59:32,920
Speaker 3: former president and members of our staff. Interural School President

2455
01:59:33,040 --> 01:59:36,720
Speaker 3: Randall Pannell said and emailed the students on Thursday, please

2456
01:59:36,800 --> 01:59:38,640
Speaker 3: join me in prayer for the university.

2457
01:59:38,360 --> 01:59:38,960
Speaker 2: At this time.

2458
01:59:39,720 --> 01:59:42,120
Speaker 3: The foot of starts with the man identified as Paul Epting,

2459
01:59:42,200 --> 01:59:44,560
Speaker 3: pointing the camera at himself.

2460
01:59:44,240 --> 01:59:45,280
Speaker 2: And saying, here we go.

2461
01:59:45,640 --> 01:59:48,520
Speaker 3: It might be a bad day, before entering the house

2462
01:59:49,240 --> 01:59:51,080
Speaker 3: unlocking what the news called the rear door.

2463
01:59:51,640 --> 01:59:54,920
Speaker 2: Oh hey, buddy, Jimmy Epton says, only for Paul to reply,

2464
01:59:55,080 --> 01:59:55,720
Speaker 2: what are you doing?

2465
01:59:55,840 --> 01:59:56,040
Speaker 4: Dad?

2466
01:59:56,560 --> 01:59:59,120
Speaker 3: Paul then walks into the bathroom asking where is she,

2467
01:59:59,600 --> 02:00:01,560
Speaker 3: before in front of the woman and asking what are

2468
02:00:01,600 --> 02:00:02,080
Speaker 3: y'all doing?

2469
02:00:02,320 --> 02:00:03,120
Speaker 2: What are you doing?

2470
02:00:03,600 --> 02:00:06,480
Speaker 3: Jimmy Epting is seen coming into the bathroom before Paul

2471
02:00:06,520 --> 02:00:09,040
Speaker 3: says no, no, I know exactly what you're doing.

2472
02:00:09,320 --> 02:00:11,520
Speaker 2: Why it's over, Dad, It's over.

2473
02:00:12,440 --> 02:00:15,440
Speaker 3: The school, which is affiliated with the South Carolina Baptist Convention,

2474
02:00:16,000 --> 02:00:18,840
Speaker 3: released a statement on Thursday saying the university leaders I

2475
02:00:18,880 --> 02:00:21,640
Speaker 3: expected the league Christ centered lives and abide by all

2476
02:00:21,720 --> 02:00:23,839
Speaker 3: chemus police policies and procedures.

2477
02:00:24,360 --> 02:00:26,720
Speaker 2: Yo, how much do you want to bet that.

2478
02:00:26,880 --> 02:00:29,720
Speaker 3: Dude like I'm against these gays getting married down here?

2479
02:00:30,400 --> 02:00:33,160
Speaker 3: Messing up the same to your marriage. Now I got

2480
02:00:33,240 --> 02:00:34,200
Speaker 3: to go fuck my mistress.

2481
02:00:34,200 --> 02:00:38,440
Speaker 2: I'll be right back. Uh so guess, Cora, So what can.

2482
02:00:38,640 --> 02:00:41,360
Speaker 4: You do that? Straight sex? That's good no matter how

2483
02:00:41,360 --> 02:00:41,880
Speaker 4: I was doing?

2484
02:00:42,280 --> 02:00:43,800
Speaker 2: Right, guess the race?

2485
02:00:44,040 --> 02:00:46,800
Speaker 3: Chat room brothers didn't don't raise no snitches because they

2486
02:00:46,880 --> 02:00:47,360
Speaker 3: aren't there.

2487
02:00:47,480 --> 02:00:52,200
Speaker 2: White allles A four s Street says, uh.

2488
02:00:53,000 --> 02:00:56,920
Speaker 3: For st says that level of snitching implies Pete caucassidy,

2489
02:00:57,440 --> 02:00:59,680
Speaker 3: mighty white of him. Matt David didn't diverse by the

2490
02:00:59,760 --> 02:01:02,240
Speaker 3: cast in this film either, So very white cast of

2491
02:01:02,320 --> 02:01:06,000
Speaker 3: the friendly snitch white, white, privileged white kids talking kids

2492
02:01:06,080 --> 02:01:09,440
Speaker 3: talking black kids talking back. White a black son would

2493
02:01:09,440 --> 02:01:11,280
Speaker 3: not have rided that dead dad out. He would have

2494
02:01:11,320 --> 02:01:20,400
Speaker 3: built up resentment. The correct answer, all right, go to

2495
02:01:20,440 --> 02:01:32,440
Speaker 3: the bonus round. Doubled up on saying the race, double up,

2496
02:01:33,720 --> 02:01:38,000
Speaker 3: saying the race. That's right, double the points, double the race,

2497
02:01:38,200 --> 02:01:39,920
Speaker 3: bonus points for guess the race.

2498
02:01:40,320 --> 02:01:44,120
Speaker 2: Everything Uh right now is two to two.

2499
02:01:44,280 --> 02:01:47,360
Speaker 3: Everybody's got two for two. So uh, let's go ahead

2500
02:01:47,400 --> 02:01:50,800
Speaker 3: and uh, let's see what happens now. I wonder if

2501
02:01:50,840 --> 02:01:54,600
Speaker 3: Joey Greco was on that last that last last plan,

2502
02:01:54,680 --> 02:01:58,240
Speaker 3: he might been and Sanchez came out and helped you

2503
02:01:58,280 --> 02:02:01,680
Speaker 3: know San Chaez be knowing cer chance where that at

2504
02:02:02,680 --> 02:02:06,400
Speaker 3: over by the That was about a uh skating rink boss.

2505
02:02:06,720 --> 02:02:14,120
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, let's see. How about here's one.

2506
02:02:14,680 --> 02:02:19,760
Speaker 3: A Hammon's man exposes his genitals in a sporting goods store.

2507
02:02:20,440 --> 02:02:22,240
Speaker 2: Oh then he battled the police.

2508
02:02:23,360 --> 02:02:26,640
Speaker 3: Police say they arrested a Hammon man at a Baton

2509
02:02:26,720 --> 02:02:31,160
Speaker 3: Rouge sports show a sports store after he accused he

2510
02:02:31,320 --> 02:02:34,120
Speaker 3: was accused of shoplifted and responded by pulling out his genitals,

2511
02:02:34,160 --> 02:02:35,960
Speaker 3: threatening employees and fighting an officers.

2512
02:02:37,200 --> 02:02:37,840
Speaker 2: Well it must have.

2513
02:02:39,400 --> 02:02:43,200
Speaker 3: If he did all that, I feel like the only

2514
02:02:43,240 --> 02:02:46,600
Speaker 3: place that this could have happened must have been dish.

2515
02:02:52,640 --> 02:02:56,760
Speaker 2: That wasn't a loud enough on. There you go. Twenty

2516
02:02:56,800 --> 02:02:58,520
Speaker 2: two year old will Williams Jr.

2517
02:02:58,840 --> 02:03:01,240
Speaker 3: Was taken into police custody his day around seven pm

2518
02:03:01,680 --> 02:03:03,720
Speaker 3: and booked on charges of disturbing the peace. Was thisant

2519
02:03:03,840 --> 02:03:07,800
Speaker 3: by forced public intimidation of scenity, battery on police, simple assault,

2520
02:03:07,840 --> 02:03:10,919
Speaker 3: and attempted simple escape. Following the scene at the Academy

2521
02:03:11,000 --> 02:03:15,760
Speaker 3: Sports and Outdoors located at Okay Whatever, after he had

2522
02:03:15,800 --> 02:03:19,480
Speaker 3: been observed possibly shoplifting, Williams approach the cash register with

2523
02:03:19,600 --> 02:03:23,960
Speaker 3: the b RPD officer on extra duty assignment told him

2524
02:03:24,000 --> 02:03:25,600
Speaker 3: that if he had anything else in his pocket he

2525
02:03:25,680 --> 02:03:26,800
Speaker 3: needed to pay for it, then now.

2526
02:03:26,800 --> 02:03:27,440
Speaker 2: Is the time to do it.

2527
02:03:27,520 --> 02:03:30,640
Speaker 3: In response to this, Williams proceeded to pull down his pants,

2528
02:03:30,680 --> 02:03:33,160
Speaker 3: exposed as generals to the officer, employees is around the

2529
02:03:33,200 --> 02:03:33,879
Speaker 3: store patrons.

2530
02:03:34,120 --> 02:03:36,600
Speaker 2: He didn't grab his genitals, and told the officer that

2531
02:03:36,800 --> 02:03:37,640
Speaker 2: was all he had.

2532
02:03:41,000 --> 02:03:49,400
Speaker 4: That's it, damn all I got is duke.

2533
02:03:49,840 --> 02:03:52,400
Speaker 3: The actions by Williams cast several small children at the

2534
02:03:52,480 --> 02:03:56,720
Speaker 3: next register to begin to scream and cry, ah can children,

2535
02:03:56,840 --> 02:03:58,280
Speaker 3: it is general scared the kids.

2536
02:03:58,840 --> 02:04:00,160
Speaker 2: The officers then grabbed.

2537
02:04:00,000 --> 02:04:01,960
Speaker 3: Williams from behind, pulled up his pants, and tried to

2538
02:04:02,000 --> 02:04:04,320
Speaker 3: drag him out of the stores. He actively resisted, striking

2539
02:04:04,360 --> 02:04:06,720
Speaker 3: the officer even as he was being forced into a

2540
02:04:06,760 --> 02:04:10,080
Speaker 3: patrol car, continuing the struggle after being placed in handcuffs.

2541
02:04:10,280 --> 02:04:12,040
Speaker 3: While the officer was trying to get Williams to the

2542
02:04:12,120 --> 02:04:14,160
Speaker 3: backseat the patrol car, he continued to kick at the

2543
02:04:14,200 --> 02:04:17,680
Speaker 3: officer's legs while accusing the officer of beating him. God

2544
02:04:18,920 --> 02:04:22,080
Speaker 3: and as assistant officers arrived on the scene to help

2545
02:04:22,080 --> 02:04:24,480
Speaker 3: secure Williams of the patrol car. The man told officers

2546
02:04:24,520 --> 02:04:26,800
Speaker 3: that he was in the United States Army and would

2547
02:04:26,840 --> 02:04:30,040
Speaker 3: have their arresting officer fired. Williams also told the officers

2548
02:04:30,040 --> 02:04:32,000
Speaker 3: that he would kill them before having sex with their

2549
02:04:32,080 --> 02:04:33,240
Speaker 3: wives and children.

2550
02:04:33,840 --> 02:04:35,920
Speaker 4: Oh oh okay.

2551
02:04:37,040 --> 02:04:39,240
Speaker 3: Once in the patrol car, Williams began to try to

2552
02:04:39,320 --> 02:04:43,080
Speaker 3: kick the back glass out of the vehicle until officers

2553
02:04:43,120 --> 02:04:45,360
Speaker 3: placed a hobble strap on his legs and preventing him

2554
02:04:45,360 --> 02:04:49,280
Speaker 3: from trying to escape. Once at the BRPD officer officer,

2555
02:04:49,320 --> 02:04:51,839
Speaker 3: Williams continued his average by spinning in the face of officers,

2556
02:04:52,160 --> 02:04:54,880
Speaker 3: calling them racist and threatened to have them fired and

2557
02:04:55,000 --> 02:04:55,600
Speaker 3: then killed.

2558
02:04:56,760 --> 02:04:57,000
Speaker 2: Wow.

2559
02:04:57,320 --> 02:04:59,680
Speaker 3: That guy really needs to write a complaint letter to

2560
02:04:59,760 --> 02:05:03,280
Speaker 3: some Yes the race chat room, all I got is

2561
02:05:03,400 --> 02:05:06,160
Speaker 3: d's nuts black. All he had with his balls and

2562
02:05:06,240 --> 02:05:11,560
Speaker 3: his word black. This dick ain't free black, blacker than

2563
02:05:11,600 --> 02:05:14,560
Speaker 3: the street. Chauncey sang On fought the copson didn't catch

2564
02:05:14,600 --> 02:05:17,360
Speaker 3: a bullet too easy, white Louisville slugg of black.

2565
02:05:17,560 --> 02:05:19,960
Speaker 2: He still love white as hell black.

2566
02:05:20,080 --> 02:05:23,080
Speaker 3: A white penis would not have scared the children and

2567
02:05:23,160 --> 02:05:25,760
Speaker 3: made them cry that black and a conda ain't no

2568
02:05:25,920 --> 02:05:28,520
Speaker 3: joke military privilege black.

2569
02:05:29,200 --> 02:05:32,200
Speaker 2: He threatened them with his dick. So he was on black.

2570
02:05:32,560 --> 02:05:35,440
Speaker 3: All I want to say black, but them threats as

2571
02:05:35,520 --> 02:05:38,920
Speaker 3: white as hell. The correct answer is black.

2572
02:05:40,440 --> 02:05:52,360
Speaker 2: Many of you got it and many of you missed it.

2573
02:06:02,920 --> 02:06:06,760
Speaker 4: Damn he's back, all right, I know that is ah.

2574
02:06:08,040 --> 02:06:10,440
Speaker 2: It's a hell of a's a hell of a story,

2575
02:06:10,840 --> 02:06:14,680
Speaker 2: right he put all the privilege out, put out his dick.

2576
02:06:15,280 --> 02:06:17,080
Speaker 2: What all right?

2577
02:06:17,320 --> 02:06:20,680
Speaker 3: Last thing we gotta talk about, of course, is soord ratchetess.

2578
02:06:42,840 --> 02:06:45,520
Speaker 3: A man is charging the sword altercation authority said a

2579
02:06:45,600 --> 02:06:49,840
Speaker 3: Hartshorn man, a resident with medieval on his son chasing

2580
02:06:49,880 --> 02:06:52,800
Speaker 3: the man with willing the sword. Carlbond Senior, forty eight,

2581
02:06:53,240 --> 02:06:55,919
Speaker 3: was charged with assault with a dangerous weapon on Tuesday

2582
02:06:55,960 --> 02:07:00,680
Speaker 3: in Pittsburgh County District Court. Hartshorn Police are Sir Anthony

2583
02:07:00,880 --> 02:07:03,800
Speaker 3: Garvin wrote in an affid David that he was told

2584
02:07:03,840 --> 02:07:06,800
Speaker 3: about several witnesses. Bond sor ran to his son after

2585
02:07:06,840 --> 02:07:09,560
Speaker 3: an argument, where his son told him told his father

2586
02:07:09,680 --> 02:07:13,960
Speaker 3: to stop being a punk and get the help he needed.

2587
02:07:16,520 --> 02:07:18,640
Speaker 3: The son told me that his dad started chasing him

2588
02:07:18,640 --> 02:07:21,360
Speaker 3: outside with the sword. Cal Senor yelled he would stab

2589
02:07:21,560 --> 02:07:22,320
Speaker 3: him in the head too.

2590
02:07:23,040 --> 02:07:23,240
Speaker 2: Oh.

2591
02:07:23,640 --> 02:07:26,000
Speaker 3: The report indicatese the son was not physically hard during

2592
02:07:26,040 --> 02:07:30,000
Speaker 3: the altercation. Garvin said he was also told Bond Senior

2593
02:07:30,080 --> 02:07:32,400
Speaker 3: threatened to davage the vehicle with a golf club. The

2594
02:07:32,480 --> 02:07:36,200
Speaker 3: officer said that his investigation and questioning the Bond sor

2595
02:07:36,360 --> 02:07:38,600
Speaker 3: led to the confession by a man. By the man

2596
02:07:39,240 --> 02:07:42,960
Speaker 3: after I advised that several people saw it, he finally

2597
02:07:43,000 --> 02:07:45,440
Speaker 3: admitted that he had chased his son with the sword

2598
02:07:46,560 --> 02:07:49,360
Speaker 3: and he had hidden it inside a plastic toe inside

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Speaker 3: the house. In two thousand and four, he was convicted

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Speaker 3: the injury to a minor child that was sentenced to

2601
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Speaker 3: five years, all suspended after the completed shit of a

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Speaker 3: rehabilitation program. He was again convicted of FELLA in two

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Speaker 3: thousand and eight, this time for possession of a controlled

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Speaker 3: dangerous substance and since the ten years suspended.

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Speaker 2: Uh guess the race right right?

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Speaker 5: He was?

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Speaker 3: Yes, he motherucker been in trouble three times and still

2608
02:08:13,640 --> 02:08:15,400
Speaker 3: out and can get access to swords.

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Speaker 2: That is some bullshit, All right.

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Speaker 3: Man, We'll talk to you all tomorrow. Go Eagles and

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Speaker 3: uh fuck everybody else team until today.

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Speaker 4: I love you, I love you too.

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Speaker 7: Nah