WEBVTT - Friday Flight - Trump 2.0, Ghost Jobs, & Insufficient Savings #936

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to How to Money. I'm Joel, I'm Matt, and

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<v Speaker 1>today we're talking Trump V two, ghost jobs and insufficient savings.

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<v Speaker 2>Personally, Joel, I would have said Trump two point zero.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what everyone's calling it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why don't you didn't you out me? I like

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<v Speaker 1>V two as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, but uh no, this says our Friday flight, our

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<v Speaker 2>weekly roundup of the different headlines we've come across this week,

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<v Speaker 2>and specifically we're going to talk about how they pertain

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<v Speaker 2>to your money.

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<v Speaker 1>That's someone else's money. This is all about you. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not infallible with my naming conventions. I will say,

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<v Speaker 1>as you just pointed out, Trump two point h would

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<v Speaker 1>have been better. Well, I just rolled.

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<v Speaker 2>Off the tongue. I think I've heard more folks recently

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<v Speaker 2>talking about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, we'll talk about there have been a flurry, there's

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<v Speaker 1>been a flurry of activity this week on the political

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<v Speaker 1>front that does impact your money. We'll get to that

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<v Speaker 1>in just a second. Matt. I logged into the back

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<v Speaker 1>end of my mortgage account recently, though, and you know

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<v Speaker 1>what it said. On the right hand side. They were

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<v Speaker 1>essentially trying to get me to do a cash out refinance,

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<v Speaker 1>which would be a terrible idea.

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<v Speaker 2>Does not surprise me at all because this is a

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<v Speaker 2>newer mortgage servicer. I'm assuming that purchased your old That's

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<v Speaker 2>right there, you go, dude, that is what they do.

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<v Speaker 2>That is the business that they're in. They're all about

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<v Speaker 2>trying to get you to take on some of these

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<v Speaker 2>additional loan products that pad their bottom line.

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<v Speaker 1>And as anybody out there knows, if you've had your

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<v Speaker 1>mortgage for any length of time, rates have gone up significantly.

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<v Speaker 1>A cash out ref would put me in a really,

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<v Speaker 1>really bad financial position. But what it said, like the

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<v Speaker 1>marketing efforts said, your cash out resolution paid down debt

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<v Speaker 1>using equity. And they're trying.

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<v Speaker 2>The new year, new you, that's right messaging and branding.

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<v Speaker 1>They're trying to get that, hey, why don't you get

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<v Speaker 1>a lumps on a cash in your life to I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, get rid of other crappy debts that might

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<v Speaker 1>be worse than your mortgage. What a bad idea that

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<v Speaker 1>would be for basically everyone, right to take a three

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<v Speaker 1>percent mortgage, turn it into a seven percent mortgage and

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<v Speaker 1>then yeah, maybe pay down ten thousand dollars worth a

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<v Speaker 1>credit card debt or something like that. But then you've

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<v Speaker 1>got that mortgage debt looming for thirty years. The next

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<v Speaker 1>thirty years, you're probably extending the life of that loan

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<v Speaker 1>significantly by doing that cash out refine, I mean cashier refis.

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<v Speaker 1>They just make sense for basically no one.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, just given the fact that there's a chance that

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<v Speaker 2>we never go back to these I think some folks

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<v Speaker 2>are thinking, well, it'll come down at some point. We

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<v Speaker 2>don't know that that is actually going to happen. It

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<v Speaker 2>is yet to be determined those predictions. And we talked

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<v Speaker 2>about this at the time, where you know, real estate

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<v Speaker 2>agents mortgage brokers were telling people, well, Mary, the house date,

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<v Speaker 2>the rate, Yeah, it doesn't look like a great suggestion.

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<v Speaker 1>We set it at the time, and I think we

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<v Speaker 1>have been proven right, and yeah, will rates could rates

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<v Speaker 1>potentially go down in the coming years, Maybe maybe, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's not like totally could. But we don't know that

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<v Speaker 1>they're going to We don't know, all right, man.

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<v Speaker 2>We saw a return to the Oval office for President Trump,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think a lot of folks might be wondering

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<v Speaker 2>how this might impact our economy as a whole. How

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<v Speaker 2>is this going to impact your personal finances? That remains

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<v Speaker 2>to be seen. There's always a whole lot of talk

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<v Speaker 2>and bluster when it comes to President Trump. There's a

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<v Speaker 2>litany of things that we can discuss. For instance, the

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<v Speaker 2>new twenty five percent tariffs against Canada and Mexico that

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<v Speaker 2>could be implemented as early as next week.

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<v Speaker 1>In terris.

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<v Speaker 2>They might serve a geopolitical purpose, but they essentially act

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<v Speaker 2>as a tax on consumers.

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<v Speaker 1>And raising the price of everyday goods right, whether it's

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<v Speaker 1>auto parts, food, the litany of things.

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<v Speaker 2>It's counter to the free market and the ability for

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<v Speaker 2>companies to produce goods at the absolute lowest price. And again,

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<v Speaker 2>I understand it from a geopolitical strategy standpoint, But how

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<v Speaker 2>this impacts Americans, we will see.

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<v Speaker 1>How broad those terrorists are. That will also impact how

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<v Speaker 1>we feel them.

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<v Speaker 2>But there certainly is a chance that inflation, which has

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<v Speaker 2>calmed it could potentially be stoked by this policy change.

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<v Speaker 2>Were executive orders that could have an impact in the

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<v Speaker 2>coming months, like an attempt to curb building restrictions in

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<v Speaker 2>order to increase supply. How that actually will work in reality,

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's gonna be hard to discern.

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<v Speaker 1>It sounds good on paper, but yeah, well yeah, how

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<v Speaker 1>well for that, Yeah, because that's what we need.

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<v Speaker 2>For instance, when it comes to housing, the largest line

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<v Speaker 2>item on everyone's monthly budget, more supply leads to lower prices.

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<v Speaker 1>Building codes are often local. So how is some sort

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<v Speaker 1>of you know, yeah, and which is yeah. Everyone who

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<v Speaker 1>is a big fan of Trump, of course, is praising

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<v Speaker 1>the stroke of the pen, the phone call, and the

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<v Speaker 1>ability to make everyone's lives better here in the States.

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<v Speaker 1>But Dave Chappelle, he actually said it really well on

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<v Speaker 1>Saturday Night Live. He said, whether people voted for.

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<v Speaker 2>You or not, everyone is counting on you good luck,

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<v Speaker 2>which I appreciate. Always count on Dave Chappelle to inject

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit of common sense into the discourse of

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<v Speaker 2>the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I appreciate Dave, and that well said. Right, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>so we are. We're hoping for the best. We always

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<v Speaker 1>hope for the best for our presents, whether you've voted

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<v Speaker 1>for them or not, because we want the best for

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<v Speaker 1>our country and the three hundred and forty million people

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<v Speaker 1>inside of it. I'm sure we're gonna have a lot

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about in the coming months. Matt on the

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<v Speaker 1>political front and how the political regime change impacts are

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<v Speaker 1>our finances, because it will, it will have an impact.

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<v Speaker 2>And hopefully we will pay attention to the headlines that

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<v Speaker 2>are actually going to matter, Yeah, and the things that

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<v Speaker 2>are actually going to happen, because I'm sure so many

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<v Speaker 2>media companies are like, yeah, strops back in office because

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<v Speaker 2>it gives them something to report on this and like

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<v Speaker 2>the craziness that oftentimes comes from the.

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<v Speaker 1>Tweets or truths or whatever it is that Trump is saying,

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<v Speaker 1>and you and I will attempt to our best to

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<v Speaker 1>keep it a political and focus on the money stuff. Indeed,

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<v Speaker 1>one thing we have to discuss is the meme coins

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<v Speaker 1>that the President and the first Lady launched a head

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<v Speaker 1>of the inauguration. It was kind of a crazy stunt, right, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Politics aside, It doesn't matter where you laying on the spectrum.

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<v Speaker 1>This is ridiculous, and we've kind of trashed meme coins thoroughly,

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<v Speaker 1>and the cryptocurrency space. We have, i think, given a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of caution in our assessment of cryptocurrency and what

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<v Speaker 1>kind of approach normal investors should have towards crypto. And

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<v Speaker 1>some folks did make money in this kind of mean

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<v Speaker 1>coin bonanza if they bought early. They bought that Trump

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<v Speaker 1>coin early, then the cashed out quick. But this is

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<v Speaker 1>just another reminder that the mean coin space is rife

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<v Speaker 1>with grift. The majority of people lose money. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>interesting too, Matt, because the crypto space, I think they

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<v Speaker 1>were hoping that a Trump presidency would usher in vibes

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<v Speaker 1>of legitimacy, and there has been a lot of talk about,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, bitcoin in particular having a national Bitcoin Strategic

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<v Speaker 1>Reserve or something like that. Is that going to be

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<v Speaker 1>a boon to some of the more popular, more long

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<v Speaker 1>standing cryptocurrencies. Maybe if it happens. Yeah, But just this

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<v Speaker 1>little stunt, I guess hasn't really aided in the legitimacy

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<v Speaker 1>of crypto. It hasn't started off in a good way.

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<v Speaker 1>And the takeaway for individuals listening is don't participate in

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<v Speaker 1>the mean coin insanity no matter w Yeah, and I

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<v Speaker 1>will say, be ready to lose your shirt if you yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And again this is I think this is an a

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<v Speaker 1>political statement, but this shouldn't be anything new for folks

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<v Speaker 1>who have like followed what it is that Trump has done,

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<v Speaker 1>Like this is like typical behavior for him, right, Like

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<v Speaker 1>more recently, it's like the branded it's the dumb Lee

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<v Speaker 1>Greenwood bibles that Trump is selling for.

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<v Speaker 2>How much was he selling this for?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't six.

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<v Speaker 2>But then like the sneakers then, but even before he

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<v Speaker 2>was president, would you look great in those? By the way,

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<v Speaker 2>even before he was president? Like the like the Trump

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<v Speaker 2>steaks and the vodka, like this is something that he does.

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<v Speaker 2>And so on one hand, it's just it's more of

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<v Speaker 2>the same. I will say, I was shocked to see

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<v Speaker 2>the pastor that gave one of the benedictions at the

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<v Speaker 2>end of the inaugural address or whatever, he launched.

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<v Speaker 1>A meme coin.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh really, yes, that is incredibly disheartening, Like like that

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<v Speaker 2>makes me angry. This is like a pastor, someone who's

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<v Speaker 2>supposed to be forsaking worldly riches in a self sacrificial

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<v Speaker 2>way to serve other people, and man talk about like

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<v Speaker 2>that made me really upset when I when I heard that.

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<v Speaker 2>It just feels so counter to what someone who is

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<v Speaker 2>in ministry or someone who's a pastor that they should

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<v Speaker 2>be doing.

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<v Speaker 1>Does this mean we're canceling the launch of our mean

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<v Speaker 1>coin that we have planned.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, we're not ministry.

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<v Speaker 1>But we can do it. We can do it, Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Something else though, that struck me was the mandate for

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<v Speaker 2>government workers to return to the office. Dude, working from home.

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<v Speaker 2>So twenty twenty, we're turning to the office rto. That's

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<v Speaker 2>the name of the game now. And I will say

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<v Speaker 2>there's evidence that working from home, at least at the

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<v Speaker 2>federal level hasn't had great results. That is costing the

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<v Speaker 2>government therefore us as taxpayers billions of dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's a report issued kind of towards the end

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<v Speaker 1>of last year, I think from one of the senator's

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<v Speaker 1>offices that headlined, you know, just how much less productive

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<v Speaker 1>certain government agencies and certain individuals have been and just

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<v Speaker 1>how costly that's become.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, dude, we're talking especially like given all the

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<v Speaker 2>office space that is sitting empty, like that's real estate,

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<v Speaker 2>is incredibly expensive. And similar to the companies who have

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<v Speaker 2>issued returned to off orders, I think the government they

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<v Speaker 2>may not be crying you or river if you end

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<v Speaker 2>up quitting over this. It appears that increased efficiency at

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<v Speaker 2>the office and a trimm or payroll are simultaneous goals.

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<v Speaker 2>So we think that the smartest employers out there who

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<v Speaker 2>are looking to retain top notch talent will offer more

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<v Speaker 2>of a hybrid or more of a flex approach where

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<v Speaker 2>they do trust their great employees to do their job

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<v Speaker 2>wherever they are. But I do think as an employee

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<v Speaker 2>you might have to make up difficult choice if going

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<v Speaker 2>back into the office, let's say five days a week,

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<v Speaker 2>if that's going to be too tough of a pill

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<v Speaker 2>to swallow. I think eventually it'll settle out somewhere in

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<v Speaker 2>the middle, because I think there had to be this

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<v Speaker 2>sort of hard correct right, Like the pendulum swung so

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<v Speaker 2>far to one side and now I think it's almost

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<v Speaker 2>having to swing hard in the other direction in order

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<v Speaker 2>to I don't know for employees, for employers to communicate

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<v Speaker 2>too employees that they're taking this a bit more seriously,

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<v Speaker 2>But I think it'll eventually settle somewhere in the middle.

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<v Speaker 1>And so much depends on the industry, right, and it

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<v Speaker 1>depends on specific employees too, like how long have they

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<v Speaker 1>been with the company, how well do they know that

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<v Speaker 1>ask how well are they able to communicate with people

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<v Speaker 1>who are also working remotely. But I guess on the

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<v Speaker 1>flip side of this, this could impact the government's ability

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<v Speaker 1>to hire some of the top talent if some of

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<v Speaker 1>that top talent says, yeah, I'm not coming to the

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<v Speaker 1>office five days a week. I'm not doing that DC

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<v Speaker 1>hellish DC commute that I'm imagining is pretty rough, depending

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<v Speaker 1>on where you live and how far your commute is.

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<v Speaker 1>But I do think that the RTO trend is only

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<v Speaker 1>going to increase in the coming months, and that's going

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<v Speaker 1>to impact a lot of how to Money listeners if

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<v Speaker 1>their employer is kind of keen on pulling that off too,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, Matt, Something else that everyone might want to

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<v Speaker 1>consider is rethinking their emergency fund, how much money they

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<v Speaker 1>have stored up in their high yield savings account. MarketWatch

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<v Speaker 1>pointed this out that changing economic realities might mean that

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<v Speaker 1>you don't have enough money saved up in your bank account.

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<v Speaker 1>You might not have enough liquidity, and instead of the

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<v Speaker 1>traditional three to six months that is typically recommended, some

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<v Speaker 1>folks are opting to increase the amount of money they

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<v Speaker 1>have on hand to nine months or even more. And

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<v Speaker 1>that is I think a potentially smart move, specifically if

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<v Speaker 1>your industry or your particular job is less stable, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, yeah, if you're in a position that feels

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<v Speaker 1>a little more precarious, like I would want to have

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<v Speaker 1>more cash on hand, that seems like a smart move.

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<v Speaker 1>The average duration of unemployment has actually gone up as well,

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<v Speaker 1>lasting on average five and a half months, So if

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<v Speaker 1>you lose your job, you're talking almost six months to

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<v Speaker 1>get the next one. So yeah, if that's the case,

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<v Speaker 1>three months certainly doesn't seem like quite enough. I guess

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of bland somewhere in the middle on this though.

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<v Speaker 1>Mat I think that telling people to save up nine

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<v Speaker 1>plus months worth of expenses that can feel a little

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<v Speaker 1>demoralizing because it's really hard to do and how much

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<v Speaker 1>you actually need it really does depend on a variety

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<v Speaker 1>of factors, like are you a two income household, do

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<v Speaker 1>you have a bare bones budget that you could implement

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<v Speaker 1>immediately upon the loss of a job, and how much

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<v Speaker 1>would that actually save you? Because if you're willing to

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<v Speaker 1>do that, hey, what looks like three months worth the

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<v Speaker 1>normal expenses could be five months worth of bare bones

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<v Speaker 1>budget expenses. And ultimately, I think having six months worth

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<v Speaker 1>of any fund it's better than having three. And some

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<v Speaker 1>folks might understandably need or want to save even more.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think if you do experience a job loss,

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<v Speaker 1>you are going to be thankful that you thought ahead

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<v Speaker 1>of time, that you were planning, and that you had

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit extra on hand, that's true.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And as we talked with Katie North about this

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<v Speaker 2>past Wednesday about sabbaticals, you might be able to parlay

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<v Speaker 2>some of those additional funds into a sabbatical where you're

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<v Speaker 2>being a little more introspective there.

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<v Speaker 1>Time off losing your job means a severance. If you've

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<v Speaker 1>got plenty of savings on hand and then three, five,

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<v Speaker 1>six months worth of severance, it's like set.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So, okay, the unemployment rate is low, but that

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't mean that the job market is booming for job

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<v Speaker 2>seekers out there, or that hunting for a new gig

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<v Speaker 2>is easy. This is a part of why it takes

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<v Speaker 2>longer for most average job seekers to find a new gig,

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<v Speaker 2>and part of the difficulty is navigating a slew of

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<v Speaker 2>job postings online, many of which are so hiring platform Greenhouse.

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<v Speaker 2>They just released an analysis of online job listings and

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<v Speaker 2>they found that one in five are fake listings. And

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<v Speaker 2>it's not that the listing itself is an actual scam,

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<v Speaker 2>but that there was never actually any hiring activity for

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<v Speaker 2>that listed job. And so you might be wondering why

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<v Speaker 2>a company would do such a thing, Why would they

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<v Speaker 2>post a position that they don't actually intend to fill.

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<v Speaker 1>It does seem sailing well.

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<v Speaker 2>It could be their speculation that could be in an

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<v Speaker 2>attempt to project growth that's not actually happening. Evidently, some

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<v Speaker 2>companies are using it as sort of like a fishing

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<v Speaker 2>line that they keep out permanently in hopes of catching

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<v Speaker 2>a rare talent.

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<v Speaker 1>But still, what would like a rare fish be man,

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<v Speaker 1>if you got a rare fish just leaving that line out.

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<v Speaker 2>Narwhall, I don't know that's a whale though, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but it doesn't make it any easier for hard to

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<v Speaker 2>reel that in who are looking for work. It's something

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<v Speaker 2>to be aware of that you think it's going to

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<v Speaker 2>be easier than you think. In part, I think because

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<v Speaker 2>there are so like, oh, everywhere I look, there's a

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<v Speaker 2>job listing. The Internet makes job hunting easy, right, It

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<v Speaker 2>makes it look so simple and jobs appear to be plentiful,

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<v Speaker 2>But that is not the case.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think just kind of approving some of those

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<v Speaker 1>job boards. It's not that you can't find a job online,

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<v Speaker 1>or that those job listings aren't helpful and can't put

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<v Speaker 1>you in the right direction, can't get you at least

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<v Speaker 1>on the right trail in the right scent. But I

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<v Speaker 1>think it can get your hopes up when you see

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<v Speaker 1>a position that looks awesome and it looks like it

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<v Speaker 1>pays well, and then you never hear back upon reaching

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<v Speaker 1>out or applying. That's just kind of the reality of

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<v Speaker 1>you have to kind of like cast your net wide

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<v Speaker 1>on the Internet and you're just hoping for someone to

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<v Speaker 1>respond on the other end. Seeing that, Matt, you mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>that these listings are not scams, We'll see that just

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<v Speaker 1>had a piece about job scams, and they're coming in

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<v Speaker 1>to folks via text message, like actual job scams. Yeah, yeah, gotcha.

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<v Speaker 1>These are just fake the ones you talked about. But

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<v Speaker 1>now we're talking about actual scammy jobs. What's happening in

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<v Speaker 1>these text messages that the person who's sending you the

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<v Speaker 1>message pretends to be a recruiter who has a solid

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<v Speaker 1>work from home job, and hey, maybe your employer just

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<v Speaker 1>said you got to come back to the office four

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<v Speaker 1>days a week and you're like, wait, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Taking me back to twenty twenty, yeah, I like this work.

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<v Speaker 1>From home job that this person's texting me about. But

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<v Speaker 1>what they're trying to get you to do is to

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<v Speaker 1>pay them for like a starter kit. Hey you got

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<v Speaker 1>this awesome job, but we have to mail you a

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<v Speaker 1>computer and stuff like that, so you need to send

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<v Speaker 1>us like seven or eight hundred bucks that's going to

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<v Speaker 1>get this ball rolling. Well, the truth is, no legitimate

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<v Speaker 1>employer needs money from you upfront, so be careful, especially

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<v Speaker 1>if you're getting any text message about employment. It is

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<v Speaker 1>almost inevitably a scam. Most employers are going to reach

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<v Speaker 1>out via email, right It's like when the irs a

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<v Speaker 1>going to text you either, So be careful the medium

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<v Speaker 1>that's being used. And I think this is also just

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<v Speaker 1>a good time out to issue a reminder that the

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<v Speaker 1>majority of jobs come through a good old fashioned networking.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not that online job hunting is a complete waste

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<v Speaker 1>of time. Again, I think it can put you on

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<v Speaker 1>the right sense, but we're still talking about eighty percent,

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<v Speaker 1>only eighty percent of those listings being legit, and we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about the potential for scams as well, So don't

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<v Speaker 1>neglect the tried and true method that has worked for decades.

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<v Speaker 1>It really does. So much of the time come down

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<v Speaker 1>to who you know, keeping that network active, staying in

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<v Speaker 1>touch with people who might be consequential in your career

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<v Speaker 1>moving forward.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, man, And speaking of networking reminds me a

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<v Speaker 2>friend of the show, Jordan Harbinger, who always talks about

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<v Speaker 2>digging the well before you need it, before.

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<v Speaker 1>You're thirsty, man, before you're thirsty. But we've got more

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<v Speaker 1>to get to.

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna talk about the direction that rents have been

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<v Speaker 2>trending over the past year.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll get to that and more right after this. We

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<v Speaker 1>are back. Now it's time, as always, to get to

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<v Speaker 1>the ludicrous headline of the week. This one comes from

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<v Speaker 1>the Washington Post and WAPO. Yeah. Listener Kathy posted this

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<v Speaker 1>in not a fancy neighborhood, it's a media organization that

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<v Speaker 1>sound like a fast neighborhood. Listener Kathy posted this in

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<v Speaker 1>the how to Money Facebook group, and if you're not

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<v Speaker 1>a member of the how to Money Facebook group, go

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<v Speaker 1>check it out because twelve thousand plus members helping each

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<v Speaker 1>other out with their personal finances. But the title of

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<v Speaker 1>this article was toys are a scam gets right to

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<v Speaker 1>the point. And maybe we're saying this too late now,

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<v Speaker 1>like that kind of headlight. Maybe we're covering this after

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<v Speaker 1>the fact, because Christmas was, after all, about a month ago. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I will say.

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<v Speaker 2>We talked we had a similar story to this prior

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<v Speaker 2>to like leading up to Christmas. We're giving folks awarding,

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<v Speaker 2>like give them a little heads up.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a news to us well, and you and

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<v Speaker 1>I we talked about like some of the changes we

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<v Speaker 1>were making to what we were buying our kids this

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas because of the toy overload. Right, but the gist

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<v Speaker 1>of this article is that kids ask for toys, we

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<v Speaker 1>buy them, and then those toys don't get played with

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<v Speaker 1>very much. Classic and the author they actually make a

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<v Speaker 1>distinction which I appreciated, between like bikes and games and

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<v Speaker 1>art supplies versus basically all the other toys out there.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think even my kids got obsessed for a

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<v Speaker 1>minute with those surprise toys. It was like a little

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's just plastic crap and then they're they're

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<v Speaker 1>inside of like a ball or whatever, and you open

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<v Speaker 1>it up and you have no idea what's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be inside, but it's one of like four different things.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like a puppy dog, stuffed animal or something like that. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>when do you buy these toys? Uh? Target, I guess, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>my parents got some of these for of them they

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<v Speaker 1>kind of fed into the It's more about the thrill

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<v Speaker 1>of the hunt, right, yeah, exactly, as opposed to like

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<v Speaker 1>that thing gets tossed aside, it's played with again. So

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<v Speaker 1>I've been there as a parent, and as much as

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<v Speaker 1>my kids don't want to hear it, I think there

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<v Speaker 1>is a lot of truth to the claim that toys

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<v Speaker 1>are a scam. I think the authors onto something here.

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<v Speaker 1>My kids have too many toys, and some they play

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<v Speaker 1>with religiously, but others get used rarely, if ever. And

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<v Speaker 1>I bet I think actually now is the time to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about this because my guess is that every parent

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<v Speaker 1>out there can see this clearly. Right now, Matt, We've

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<v Speaker 1>got a delivery of a big bookshelf the other day.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh and do you know how many hours my kids

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<v Speaker 1>played with the cardboard dude that that the bookshelf came in.

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<v Speaker 1>It's classic. It's it's amazing. Yeah, Like it's almost like

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<v Speaker 1>a meme from the nineties or something like that, but

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<v Speaker 1>like it's so true the fact that even the toys

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<v Speaker 1>that they receive often it's like, oh, what can we

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<v Speaker 1>do with this box?

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<v Speaker 2>Or oh the bubble rap, Like the amount of time

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<v Speaker 2>my kids play popping the little bubble wrap, which honestly

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<v Speaker 2>is rare and rare now because normally now it's just

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<v Speaker 2>like the big air pockets yeah, which sounds like a

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<v Speaker 2>shotgun going off inside the house, versus like the little yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>the small ones. But I think a solution could be

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<v Speaker 2>it's obviously hard to get your kids to want less stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>but I do think that the ads that they see

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<v Speaker 2>certainly is going to influence what they want. Like, we

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<v Speaker 2>are all in a better place now, I think than

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<v Speaker 2>we were when cable was dominant, Like do you remember

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<v Speaker 2>the constant stream of toy ads when we were kids?

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<v Speaker 1>My parents remember it.

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<v Speaker 2>How would I have ever known about Hungry Hungry hippos

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<v Speaker 2>if I hadn't seen those kids playing with it on

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<v Speaker 2>the TV.

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<v Speaker 1>There are fortunately fewer.

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<v Speaker 2>Commercials on streaming, and oftentimes it's not for kids toys.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like for perfume. And we talked about this, how

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<v Speaker 2>I like change my tune on going with the lower

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<v Speaker 2>cost streaming plan. Letting like the ability to expose them

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<v Speaker 2>to advertising something to inoculate them, and for that to

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<v Speaker 2>be a launching off point for us to have these conversations.

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<v Speaker 2>And I love too that it's not toys because that

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<v Speaker 2>would honestly be a little bit trickier, as opposed to

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<v Speaker 2>ads that they think are terrible and that they think

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<v Speaker 2>are so dumb, Like when the perfume and the colonna

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<v Speaker 2>ads come on, they like roll their eyes, they make

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<v Speaker 2>barfing noises.

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<v Speaker 1>They are the worst. They're the worst.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like Katie Perry on Mars or something. They're confused

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<v Speaker 2>because they're like, well, how does that? How's that supposed

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<v Speaker 2>to sell a perfume? And it's like, well, you can't

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<v Speaker 2>show a smell, and so they what they're trying to do.

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<v Speaker 1>Is show you that this is creative feeling. Yeah, you

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<v Speaker 1>could be this cool or this is the kind of

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<v Speaker 1>life that you could.

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<v Speaker 2>You would have this many friends and you'd be dancing

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<v Speaker 2>at night and driving in this car, running along this

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<v Speaker 2>beach with the moon. You know, all the things that

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<v Speaker 2>they show. And it's a great way for us to

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<v Speaker 2>have these kind of conversations. But I totally agree it's

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<v Speaker 2>the things that spur creativity in additional things, as opposed

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<v Speaker 2>to the toys being an end in and of themselves.

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<v Speaker 2>Like it makes me think of our my youngest, my son,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what his favorite thing to do is, like

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<v Speaker 2>right now, it's freezing outside, and so we've been reading

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of books. But aside from that, like when

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<v Speaker 2>we go outside, what he loves to do is find

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<v Speaker 2>scraps of wood that the builders, that the framers have

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<v Speaker 2>left all around the house, and he takes those pieces

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<v Speaker 2>of wood. He's got a little wittedly knife and he

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<v Speaker 2>carves them into swords. So he's got the secret stash

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<v Speaker 2>of wooden swords and neighbors daggers.

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<v Speaker 1>Knives and you know what he wants.

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<v Speaker 2>He doesn't want toy see whatts me to like join

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<v Speaker 2>him in this creative world that he's created, Like that

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<v Speaker 2>is so much fun.

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<v Speaker 1>He's not playing with half the stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that we would have gotten for him at Christmas,

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<v Speaker 2>but we actually didn't because we scaled back because we

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<v Speaker 2>did have this conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, at a.

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<v Speaker 2>Time when we're like, hey, we're gonna do the switch,

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<v Speaker 2>the Nintendo switch.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, well, and that's why we talked about this beforehand.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's it's actually worked out really well. Like the

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<v Speaker 1>you and I both got a Nintendo switch for the kids,

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<v Speaker 1>and now they've announced that Nintendo switch too, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>totally fine with the fact that we'll have the one

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<v Speaker 1>for many years and not be upgrading.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think we also knew that it was coming,

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<v Speaker 2>which is why they were on sale. It's a bundle

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<v Speaker 2>with Mario kard.

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<v Speaker 1>Eight, you know well, and that has been kind of

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<v Speaker 1>a fun way to do things together as a family

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<v Speaker 1>to play. It's almost like a board game, a digital

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<v Speaker 1>version of a board game totally, and so it's better

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<v Speaker 1>than watching TV, I think. But we also did that

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<v Speaker 1>in an attempt to not just add a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>random crap to our to our households, and so the one,

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<v Speaker 1>the bigger present made a big, big difference in you

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<v Speaker 1>in second splash, Yeah, you guys got aerial silks for

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<v Speaker 1>your daughter Evy recently, and you guys have been they've

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<v Speaker 1>been playing on that stuff that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, dude, Well here's what's awesome as well. Talk about

0:22:22.000 --> 0:22:23.880
<v Speaker 2>the teaching kids the value of a dollar. We didn't

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<v Speaker 2>buy that for them. The kids all chipped in together,

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<v Speaker 2>oh really, and we said, hey, you know, by the

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<v Speaker 2>time Christmas rolls around, this is something that we consider

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<v Speaker 2>buying for y'all. But they they wanted it now, and

0:22:33.720 --> 0:22:36.280
<v Speaker 2>so they all they got together and conspired. They didn't conspire,

0:22:36.359 --> 0:22:38.280
<v Speaker 2>but they're like, hey, okay, I'm willing to put this

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<v Speaker 2>much towards it. And so I don't think Westy, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think he contributed any money.

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<v Speaker 1>But the girls, they all pitched in. I mean he

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't get to use him. Uh, he actually doesn't use him.

0:22:47.280 --> 0:22:48.280
<v Speaker 1>He's not as interested.

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<v Speaker 2>He's like, I don't understand why these pieces of cloth

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<v Speaker 2>hanging from the bailing, why that's.

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<v Speaker 1>So much fun.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, when your girls came over, man, they played

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<v Speaker 2>on it for hours, literally for hours.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so much fun.

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<v Speaker 2>And again, it leads to other activity and it just

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<v Speaker 2>leads to a healthier kind of lifestyle as well, you know,

0:23:04.920 --> 0:23:07.240
<v Speaker 2>just like y'all with rock climbing, Like y'all have gotten

0:23:07.280 --> 0:23:09.600
<v Speaker 2>into that more like it's something that leads to something else,

0:23:10.119 --> 0:23:12.720
<v Speaker 2>additional skills, the building of strength and character, you know,

0:23:12.760 --> 0:23:14.639
<v Speaker 2>like all these awesome sort of side effects as opposed

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<v Speaker 2>to just like vegging out and playing.

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<v Speaker 1>With a toy. Yeah. And I think maybe as a society,

0:23:19.800 --> 0:23:21.960
<v Speaker 1>we've kind of made it seem like, oh, you show

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<v Speaker 1>your kids that you love them if you buy them

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<v Speaker 1>plastic stuff. I think it's important for us to push

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<v Speaker 1>back on that. And it's I think it's really important

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<v Speaker 1>to have a well conceived family approach to toy accumulation right,

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<v Speaker 1>and to communicate that in a kind and understandable way

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<v Speaker 1>to your kids so that when the topic comes up,

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<v Speaker 1>they understand because they might see that catalog in the mail,

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<v Speaker 1>point to it, circle stuff in it, and be like,

0:23:42.080 --> 0:23:44.600
<v Speaker 1>I want this giant piece of plastic. And it's not

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<v Speaker 1>that you will never buy them a toy ever, but

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<v Speaker 1>I think kind of having an ethos about how much

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<v Speaker 1>you do allow into your house. One it could save

0:23:53.640 --> 0:23:56.000
<v Speaker 1>you money, but two it can like prevent you from

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<v Speaker 1>pulling your hair out because that stuff gets literally all

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<v Speaker 1>over the floor too.

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<v Speaker 2>Totally okay, Kiosks, Joel, They are becoming the norm for

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<v Speaker 2>ordering food, at least at some fast food chains. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>thinking of McDonald's in particular, Shake Shack. They're actually leaning

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<v Speaker 2>into Kiosk as well. But interestingly enough, it turns out

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<v Speaker 2>it's not about reducing employee headcount in order.

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<v Speaker 1>To save on labor costs.

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<v Speaker 2>All.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the knee jerk reaction people have. It's like, Oh,

0:24:21.240 --> 0:24:22.920
<v Speaker 1>they're just trying to cut cutstaff.

0:24:22.920 --> 0:24:27.159
<v Speaker 2>We're gonna yeah, it's all about the mechanization and robots everywhere. No,

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<v Speaker 2>these restaurants they seem to be keeping all their employees,

0:24:29.640 --> 0:24:32.399
<v Speaker 2>they're just redirecting them to other tasks. The reason that

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<v Speaker 2>the kiosk and the screens are all there is because

0:24:34.600 --> 0:24:38.880
<v Speaker 2>it's about selling you more food. CNN they highlighted the

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<v Speaker 2>upselling that's occurring at these kiosks, and you got you know,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe a minimum wage worker, that person there brand new

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<v Speaker 2>on the job. They might forget to ask you to

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<v Speaker 2>supersize your meal. But guess what, especially if it's a

0:24:50.280 --> 0:24:54.480
<v Speaker 2>long line. That's true a computer, it never forgets. Which

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<v Speaker 2>it kind of surprises me because you think I would

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<v Speaker 2>think a smiling face and get interaction with a guest

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<v Speaker 2>there at the store that might lead to me maybe

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<v Speaker 2>supersizing it. But I guess again, maybe the problem is

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<v Speaker 2>is you got folks you don't care whether or not

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<v Speaker 2>you supersize it. Right, they're just there earning a paycheck,

0:25:10.840 --> 0:25:12.440
<v Speaker 2>and there's a lot of money to be made when

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<v Speaker 2>it comes to some of that upselling that takes place.

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<v Speaker 1>We're not living in those Morgan's Purlock Supersize met days anymore. Matt,

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<v Speaker 1>that still was like the game changing documentary of our time,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like, but he would go to a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of restaurants and they didn't ask him to supersize.

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<v Speaker 2>Really, the whole documentary was erroneous because of the fact

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<v Speaker 2>that it came out after the fact that he was an.

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<v Speaker 1>Alcoholic when he went into the doctor and he's just like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my gosh, the toll this has taken on your

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<v Speaker 1>liver and turns out he was like, could have been

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<v Speaker 1>the fifteen Gen and Tonics that's doing that. Yeah, that's right. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't really like those kioski there. I feel like

0:25:45.000 --> 0:25:48.040
<v Speaker 1>they are always takes me a minute to navigate to

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm trying to get. I would rather i'm a

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<v Speaker 1>ult school matter rather order with the actual human being.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just becoming less regular at some of these restaurants.

0:25:56.359 --> 0:25:58.359
<v Speaker 1>But hey, I'm not really going to McDonald's anyway. So,

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<v Speaker 1>but just a word to the wise else out there,

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<v Speaker 1>don't let the computer make you spend more money. While

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about food and spending money, Americans are tipping

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<v Speaker 1>less than they have in recent years. Prices have yes

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<v Speaker 1>risen significantly, particularly at restaurants, and folks are being less

0:26:14.000 --> 0:26:16.919
<v Speaker 1>generous with their servers because of it, Like as the

0:26:16.920 --> 0:26:19.719
<v Speaker 1>price tag goes up on their meal at whatever, restaurant

0:26:19.760 --> 0:26:22.280
<v Speaker 1>they're eating at. They're saying, hmm, I just don't feel

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<v Speaker 1>like I can tip as much because of that. And

0:26:24.720 --> 0:26:27.240
<v Speaker 1>it's true, yes, eating out is quite expensive. When you

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<v Speaker 1>look at the inflation charts, it's become far more expensive

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<v Speaker 1>than eating out at home. Like the rate of inflation

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<v Speaker 1>on food at the grocery store versus food at restaurants

0:26:36.600 --> 0:26:39.919
<v Speaker 1>has grown, right, so that the prices are climbing faster

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<v Speaker 1>essentially at when you eat out, and that can be frustrating, Right, Matt,

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<v Speaker 1>I think I would personally opt for the European model

0:26:47.720 --> 0:26:49.320
<v Speaker 1>if given a choice, I think you would. I think

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<v Speaker 1>you prefer the tipping model.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a right, Yeah, don't really haven't opinion right now? Okay,

0:26:53.560 --> 0:26:55.480
<v Speaker 2>well it's it's also gotten you want to take the

0:26:55.600 --> 0:27:00.840
<v Speaker 2>Steve Bizemi. Yes, well, it's also it's and more confusing

0:27:00.840 --> 0:27:03.919
<v Speaker 2>as some restaurants have implemented mandatory fees than people are like, well,

0:27:03.960 --> 0:27:06.600
<v Speaker 2>where are those fees going? Is this the tip or

0:27:06.680 --> 0:27:09.640
<v Speaker 2>is this just going to the owners of the restaurant.

0:27:10.000 --> 0:27:12.960
<v Speaker 2>So I think as a consumer it's become more difficult

0:27:13.000 --> 0:27:15.080
<v Speaker 2>to know how much to tip because of some of

0:27:15.119 --> 0:27:18.240
<v Speaker 2>those ancillary fees as well. I think it's important to

0:27:18.800 --> 0:27:21.120
<v Speaker 2>ask right if you see a fee that you don't understand,

0:27:21.320 --> 0:27:23.760
<v Speaker 2>and also to not take your frustration out on your

0:27:23.760 --> 0:27:26.520
<v Speaker 2>server by being a bad tipper. And I think the

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<v Speaker 2>ultimate solution for a lot of people is going to

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<v Speaker 2>be to eat out less so that you can still

0:27:31.160 --> 0:27:34.160
<v Speaker 2>tip reasonably when you do go out. Eating out less

0:27:34.200 --> 0:27:35.680
<v Speaker 2>is obviously going to save you a lot of money

0:27:35.720 --> 0:27:39.280
<v Speaker 2>eating more meals at home, but tipping less, yeah, it

0:27:39.359 --> 0:27:41.479
<v Speaker 2>might be a way to cut down your eating out budget,

0:27:41.480 --> 0:27:43.320
<v Speaker 2>but it's not a good one, that's right. Let's talk

0:27:43.320 --> 0:27:45.680
<v Speaker 2>about housing, Joel. Folks say that one of the best

0:27:45.720 --> 0:27:48.560
<v Speaker 2>things about owning your house as opposed to renting is

0:27:48.600 --> 0:27:51.960
<v Speaker 2>that your payment it stays the same while rents continually increase.

0:27:52.640 --> 0:27:55.240
<v Speaker 2>But that's only kind of true, and it's actually really

0:27:55.280 --> 0:27:57.960
<v Speaker 2>it's not as true as of late. While folks who

0:27:57.960 --> 0:28:00.960
<v Speaker 2>bought between let's say that rate recessions so it lu's

0:28:01.080 --> 0:28:03.880
<v Speaker 2>two thousand and nine up to about twenty twenty three,

0:28:04.160 --> 0:28:06.520
<v Speaker 2>you know, maybe they find themselves in a decent spot.

0:28:06.640 --> 0:28:09.879
<v Speaker 2>The economics of home ownership are changing, even if you

0:28:09.960 --> 0:28:12.359
<v Speaker 2>bought at a good price with a reasonable rate, and

0:28:12.400 --> 0:28:16.000
<v Speaker 2>that's because insurance and taxes have been rising really quickly.

0:28:16.400 --> 0:28:19.520
<v Speaker 2>Today a third of the mortgage payment goes towards those

0:28:19.560 --> 0:28:22.800
<v Speaker 2>two line items, which is a record amount. And for

0:28:22.840 --> 0:28:25.600
<v Speaker 2>almost ten percent of homeowners, they make up more than

0:28:25.640 --> 0:28:27.760
<v Speaker 2>half of your mortgage.

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<v Speaker 1>Pains and crazy, that's insane.

0:28:29.080 --> 0:28:31.639
<v Speaker 2>It means your annual escrow notice is more frightening than

0:28:31.640 --> 0:28:34.159
<v Speaker 2>ever and some homeowners are having a tough time dealing

0:28:34.160 --> 0:28:37.840
<v Speaker 2>with significant payment increases. And so we bring this up

0:28:37.880 --> 0:28:41.320
<v Speaker 2>to highlight that there's no silver bullet here as opposed

0:28:41.320 --> 0:28:44.680
<v Speaker 2>to maybe loosening some building regulations to increase the supply,

0:28:45.360 --> 0:28:48.760
<v Speaker 2>but challenge property tax increases if they are out of line.

0:28:48.760 --> 0:28:51.840
<v Speaker 2>If that's something that you've seen we've mentioned own well before.

0:28:52.040 --> 0:28:55.920
<v Speaker 2>More of an automated service. They take a cut of

0:28:55.960 --> 0:28:59.440
<v Speaker 2>the amount that they're able to reduce your property tax increase. Yeah,

0:28:59.480 --> 0:29:01.320
<v Speaker 2>but only they succeeds. So if they fail, you don't

0:29:01.320 --> 0:29:04.040
<v Speaker 2>pay them. They don't pay money upfront. Shop around for

0:29:04.080 --> 0:29:07.120
<v Speaker 2>your homeowners insurance and I think this used to be

0:29:07.160 --> 0:29:09.040
<v Speaker 2>something that maybe was a little bit more of like

0:29:09.080 --> 0:29:12.239
<v Speaker 2>a cheap guy or a frugal guy thing to do.

0:29:12.360 --> 0:29:15.920
<v Speaker 2>But like self insure more, raise your your deductible so

0:29:16.000 --> 0:29:19.200
<v Speaker 2>that you're not as reliant on your insurance when something

0:29:19.200 --> 0:29:21.560
<v Speaker 2>happens to your house, because you're gonna save money immediately

0:29:21.840 --> 0:29:24.320
<v Speaker 2>now because you're gonna see your premiums decrease when you

0:29:24.400 --> 0:29:28.120
<v Speaker 2>increase your deductible. But over time, because you are less

0:29:28.120 --> 0:29:30.240
<v Speaker 2>reliant on your insurance, it means you're less likely to

0:29:30.360 --> 0:29:32.520
<v Speaker 2>use it, which means you're not gonna get booted, not

0:29:32.560 --> 0:29:35.280
<v Speaker 2>booted off your insurance, but they're not gonna ejacuorrates up

0:29:35.280 --> 0:29:37.040
<v Speaker 2>to sky high levels. Yeah.

0:29:37.160 --> 0:29:40.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I think part of the reason that we've

0:29:40.480 --> 0:29:43.239
<v Speaker 1>seen increases to the extent that we have is just

0:29:43.320 --> 0:29:46.240
<v Speaker 1>inflation in general, right, rising home prices, rising costs of

0:29:46.600 --> 0:29:49.360
<v Speaker 1>building like that means that if something does happen in

0:29:49.400 --> 0:29:51.400
<v Speaker 1>your home, the insurance going to be out more money,

0:29:51.440 --> 0:29:54.000
<v Speaker 1>so hey, they've got to cover that in premium increases.

0:29:54.040 --> 0:29:56.720
<v Speaker 1>But it's also natural disasters in parts of the country,

0:29:56.800 --> 0:30:00.600
<v Speaker 1>and particularly thinking about places like Florida and California, But

0:30:00.640 --> 0:30:03.000
<v Speaker 1>that impacts people not just in those states, but really

0:30:03.040 --> 0:30:06.400
<v Speaker 1>across the country. As insurers sometimes disperse the pain a

0:30:06.440 --> 0:30:08.960
<v Speaker 1>little more widely, it's become really tough out there for

0:30:09.200 --> 0:30:12.760
<v Speaker 1>homeowners from an insurance expense in the last couple of

0:30:12.800 --> 0:30:15.840
<v Speaker 1>years in particular, and not to go back to the

0:30:15.880 --> 0:30:18.360
<v Speaker 1>well on this too much, Matt, but home ownership is

0:30:18.400 --> 0:30:20.640
<v Speaker 1>often seen as the number one way to build wealth. Like,

0:30:20.640 --> 0:30:22.760
<v Speaker 1>there are a lot of people out there who truly

0:30:22.800 --> 0:30:26.959
<v Speaker 1>believe that owning a home is their best way to

0:30:27.000 --> 0:30:30.160
<v Speaker 1>achieve the American dream and to be able to retire successfully.

0:30:30.640 --> 0:30:33.600
<v Speaker 1>And when you look at the numbers, it does kind

0:30:33.600 --> 0:30:35.680
<v Speaker 1>of sort of look like that, right, that owning the

0:30:35.720 --> 0:30:40.200
<v Speaker 1>home is what contributes to more greater levels of financial independence.

0:30:40.240 --> 0:30:43.440
<v Speaker 1>Homeowners do have a much greater net worth than renters.

0:30:43.800 --> 0:30:46.160
<v Speaker 1>But it's really just not that simple, right when it

0:30:46.200 --> 0:30:48.640
<v Speaker 1>comes down to it, home ownership is not the key

0:30:48.760 --> 0:30:52.800
<v Speaker 1>to building wealth. Investing in general is, which, in part

0:30:52.880 --> 0:30:55.280
<v Speaker 1>having a mortgage payment forces you to do. It's like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's that forced method of saving yah. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>But if you had taken the additional money and invested instead,

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<v Speaker 1>you might have come out ahead over the years. Better

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<v Speaker 1>investments out there, for sure. Yeah. But case in point here,

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<v Speaker 1>I think this actually kind of highlights the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>renting might make more sense than buying for a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people. Rents are actually down over the past twelve months.

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<v Speaker 1>Most people think again. Rents go up year after year,

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<v Speaker 1>and especially during COVID and stuff like that, it felt

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<v Speaker 1>like rents were going up at an insane pace because

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<v Speaker 1>they were. Well, that has not just slowed down, but

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<v Speaker 1>rent growth is actually declining. So you might have to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to get a better deal on the apartment

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<v Speaker 1>or the home that you're renting next month or next year.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, buying can be a solid personal decision

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<v Speaker 1>and a reasonable financial one if that's what you're into.

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<v Speaker 1>It has provided outsize gains at certain points in time,

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<v Speaker 1>but you got to contend with the trade offs of

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<v Speaker 1>home ownership as well. Home maintenance, for instance, Matt averages

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<v Speaker 1>something like five hundred dollars a month. According to Zillo,

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<v Speaker 1>you got to contend with all the costs of home

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<v Speaker 1>ownership before taking the plunge. Insurance, right, maintenance, taxes, all

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<v Speaker 1>that stuff all skyrocket and quickly impacting homeowners Printing might

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<v Speaker 1>not seem quite as bad when you take all those

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<v Speaker 1>costs into account, and you'll have more financial flexibility and

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<v Speaker 1>room to invest if you wait a little longer. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to like dissuade everyone and say homeownership bad,

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<v Speaker 1>don't do it, but it's just not as simple as

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people have made it out to be either.

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<v Speaker 1>That's true.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you can especially get a deal if you

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<v Speaker 2>are looking at an apartment which has seen the largest

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