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Speaker 1: I found out my wife bought a couple's massage for

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Speaker 2: I think you can care a little bit too much.

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Speaker 1: And this is all the answer the question should you

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Speaker 1: ever stay with a long term partner after you cheat?

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Speaker 1: By the way, you can catch us live on YouTube

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Speaker 1: every day three pmpst catch us, There be there be square.

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Speaker 1: This first story comes from a throwaway account and they

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Speaker 1: say this happened on a work trip. And I clearly

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Speaker 1: remember that she never mentioned getting a massage, let alone

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Speaker 1: a couple's massage. I only found out a week later

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Speaker 1: when the SPA fedexed her anklet that she had left

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Speaker 1: behind like a glass slipper left by Cinderella. Fit does

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Speaker 2: Is she the cheater? She came clean when I brought

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Speaker 2: it up, But she thinks I'm making a big deal

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Speaker 2: and insists that she told me about getting massage, just

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Speaker 1: You know, I love It's usually the inverse scenario. I

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Speaker 3: Yeah it's really messed up.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So Sophia was was was causing a ruckus? First?

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Speaker 3: Everything was falling over. But I'm good now, God.

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Speaker 2: I'm glad things are you resolved? She came clean when

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Speaker 2: I brought it, but she thinks I would be a

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Speaker 2: big deal about it. Apparently the spot was almost full

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Speaker 2: so they decided to go in together naked. Where was it?

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Speaker 2: Because I feel like mostly massages are scantily clothed. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: how much of your coworker did you see?

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Speaker 1: That's what I want to know. This is so out

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Speaker 1: of character for her. She's always been quite put him

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Speaker 1: I'd be mad even if she was friends with him.

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Speaker 1: They barely speak to each other at work parties, and

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Speaker 1: he's always been cold to me. Are they trying to

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Speaker 1: get you off the scent? I've never seen them talk.

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Speaker 1: Maybe they do that intentionally so you wouldn't get suspicions.

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Speaker 1: He's always cold to me? Why does he not like me? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: He never invited me to a couple's massage.

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Speaker 2: I feel like this couple has never had a couple's massage.

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Speaker 2: I agree, Yeah, yeah, I think. And they're in sore

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Speaker 3: Yeah he oh, he's sore.

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Speaker 2: He's sorry, it's sore, need but almost. We have an

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Speaker 2: amazing marriage so far. I don't believe it, and she's

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Speaker 2: my best friend so far. She's fears that nothing else happened,

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Speaker 2: but I'm unable to let it go, and she's upset

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Speaker 2: with me for not trusting her. Should I trust my

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Speaker 1: So?

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Speaker 2: TLDR thirty two male, My twenty eight feet me, a

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Speaker 2: wife of three years, went to a couple's massage with

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Speaker 2: her twenty nine male colleague and hit it to me.

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Speaker 2: We got relevant comments, we got an update, but quick

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Speaker 2: pull from the audience. Did they cheat?

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Speaker 3: I just want to know how that conversation got started?

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Speaker 3: What like, was she at work and she was talking

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Speaker 3: to her coworker and she's like, I'm so sure you

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Speaker 2: There was only one place in the massage place.

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Speaker 4: But how do they even get there conversation about massages?

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Speaker 4: I mean if they don't talk. I mean, it was

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Speaker 1: He's there, They're throwing him off, the scent. He's being

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Speaker 1: rude to him because he's like, Yo, that's my woman. True,

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Speaker 1: I'm the one get massages, not you.

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Speaker 2: Honestly, I feel like a couple's massage is fair like

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Speaker 2: it's pretty intimate.

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Speaker 1: Massively, it's massively intimate. Simply, yeah, it's literally it's called

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Speaker 3: If we look up like couples massages, I want to

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Speaker 1: You know, well, I've had my fair share of couples

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Speaker 1: of massages. I mean to be fair, the way next

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Speaker 2: Well because we've heard our moans and groans.

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Speaker 1: But other other work you know, these people.

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Speaker 2: I don't know these people.

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Speaker 1: These see I will well, John affectionately refers to me

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Speaker 1: We birthed this baby jointly. Yeah, these are our children

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Speaker 1: but it's an intimate thing, like I don't know, not

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Speaker 1: in BALI didn't you me?

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Speaker 1: I that is that is true. I got a couple.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, John, I did get a couple of massages

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Speaker 1: I forgot you guys went together.

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Speaker 2: if we put up a poll. Poll's not working. Oh dang, okay,

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Speaker 2: uh yeah? Did did you think they cheated or not?

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Speaker 2: Hannah says, also he hates being touched bella six eight

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Speaker 2: one five. But you guys aren't involved romantically? Yes, does you? Calgary?

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Speaker 2: It's an intimate setting, the semi naked candles of romatherapy,

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Speaker 2: But it also is is just like whatever a comfort

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Speaker 2: Red flag, like she's not coming to the table thinking like, hey.

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Speaker 3: Sorry I did that. I should have let you know.

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Speaker 3: It truly was nothing like it should have been that,

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Speaker 2: I don't know which is not hearing what his no

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Speaker 2: concerns are concerned feelings are? Yeah, but let us get

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Speaker 2: in to irrelevant comments, so relevant comments. Glass Ear eighty

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Speaker 2: purposely don't speak to each other in front of you

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Speaker 2: in my opinion, and she is gaslighting you ohpe, he responds,

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Speaker 2: thank you. I was hoping for a married woman's feedback.

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Speaker 2: Separate par Fe six four twenty six says, if they

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Speaker 2: the other person was hoping to get a massage? I said, question, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I think it's more like the I think the bad

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Speaker 2: not talked to each other seemingly before. That's my biggest

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Speaker 2: red flag.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And if someone you barely talk to, why would you

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Speaker 2: want them to be half naked in the same room

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Speaker 2: as you. I cannot imagine a scenario or this was innocent.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's like going to like we spot with your coworker.

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Speaker 2: Okay, OPI said, she said they bumped into each other

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Speaker 3: Oh that's sweet.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So I so I here here, So I believe

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Speaker 1: this is what happened. I believe this is what happened

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Speaker 1: to me contextualizing what Op just said with the spat,

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Speaker 1: this is allegedly what happens. Okay, she's at the spa,

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Speaker 1: he's at the spa separately. They both want to get massages.

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Speaker 1: But there's only one massage open and it's a couple's massage.

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Speaker 1: And they're like, hey, like we won't both want to

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Speaker 1: get massages right now? The only one open is a

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Speaker 1: couple of massage. Let's just get in it together. It's

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Speaker 3: So, so in this world they are at we Spa, Yes,

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Speaker 3: and we Spa offers massages.

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Speaker 2: A couple of massages does offer us.

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Speaker 3: Yeah I know this, I'm yeah okay. And so they

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Speaker 2: and like, oh, I was going to a massage, and then

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Speaker 2: it's like I'm gonna get a massage, and then they

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Speaker 2: go to a massage. Hey two massages please, Like sorry,

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Speaker 2: all the massages are books. We only have a couple's massage.

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Speaker 1: But if you're married, you run into let's say you

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Speaker 1: don't work at this beautiful place. Yeah, you're married. You

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Speaker 1: run into someone you co work with. Are you like

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Speaker 1: You're like, let's get this couple of massage or you're

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Speaker 1: I am giving it to the person.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, time.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, cost, does it cost the same?

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Speaker 2: You know you are paying more? Yeah, well, a couple's

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Speaker 1: Twice or twice the amount to just book the next

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't do it.

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Speaker 2: You wouldn't do it? Come on, would I do it?

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Speaker 2: I don't think so. If it was like a random

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Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe like these coworkers. But yeah, but if it

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Speaker 2: With anyone in this room, yeah, amen.

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Speaker 3: I I don't think that would be weird because we're like,

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Speaker 3: in an office space that would be different.

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Speaker 5: What if Opie's wife is like this. What if she

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Speaker 3: She says that she doesn't talk unless she has a

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Speaker 3: very bad podcast where she doesn't talk to her coworker.

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Speaker 1: Than all right, but let's get in to another elephant comment.

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Speaker 2: So North reference seventy eighty one says, I was thinking

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Speaker 2: there might be a small chance that it really was innocent.

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Speaker 2: But if she's feeding you bs like this, she's probably

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Speaker 2: actually cheating on you. To be honest, Opie responds, I

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Speaker 2: did press on this when I confronted her. We get

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Speaker 2: a massage almost every week and it's always planned in advance,

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Speaker 2: but she said since she was traveling, it was a

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Speaker 2: last minute thing. When I brought up the fact that

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Speaker 2: she never goes to a spot without checking the reviews,

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Speaker 2: she got angry and said, since it's a five store hotel,

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Speaker 2: there is an update, I don't know. So where where

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Speaker 1: This is so obviously bad to me? Yeah, it's so obvious. Yea,

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Speaker 1: Are you that tense? Like, ah, I'm gonna die honestly,

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Speaker 1: But honestly, the getting a massage every week. Actually makes

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Speaker 2: You know, it's kind of like I have to watch

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Speaker 1: Even if I'm naked next to my coworker. It's sometimes

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Speaker 3: I don't buy it.

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Speaker 1: I I don't buy it, but I think it makes

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, this is in every scenario.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, people say cheating WHOA says nine out.

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Speaker 2: Of ten Shy little writer says BS five star hotel

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I need to know, Like.

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Speaker 2: What it like? Is it like there's some couples massage,

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Speaker 1: Because it's for a romantic couple, I will always assume

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I've only gotten one professional massage where when

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Speaker 3: It was just a massage with three people in the room.

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Speaker 1: But it's not billed as a couple, like if it's

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Speaker 3: But I guess, yeah, I don't know what I need

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Speaker 2: Well, let's see, because I only have one Breonna ellisis

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Speaker 2: enough for your support. Getting this off my chest is

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Speaker 2: her anklet. We also found out that the room had

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Speaker 3: Oh, okay, so this is an intimate private it's.

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Speaker 1: A couple you know what.

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Speaker 2: All right, I didn't woking gun. I've had so I've

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Speaker 2: you get fully nude. There's like a shower in there.

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Speaker 3: Ah, I just take it back. I don't want to

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Speaker 2: I distinctly remember my wife telling me that there was

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Speaker 1: No, I don't like this.

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Speaker 2: Then this is her guy friend shows up. I don't

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Speaker 1: At her as in ops friend this bs. He's an

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Her friends are like, stop complaining, you're hot so

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Speaker 2: couldn't take any more anymore, so I faked a work

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Speaker 1: Haha, ooh.

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Speaker 3: Ooh, so rude. Wow, that's so incredibly rude.

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Speaker 2: To call someone ugly without actually calling them ugly.

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Speaker 2: I acted like I was distracted by the call and left.

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Speaker 2: What do you think is going on? As she told

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Speaker 2: I think she knows she's getting caught.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think she's trying to get her friends

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Speaker 2: Everything everything stinks.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we need a private shower to clean off this mat.

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Speaker 2: Darn tout vlat putin. I led through her eye cloud

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Speaker 2: and it's clean. But her CECI says she's paid for

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Speaker 2: it was scheduled two days in advance. They were there

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Speaker 2: It's so much more humiliating to discuss this when you're

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Speaker 2: but for those of you who ask, we've had We

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Speaker 2: Things aren't looking good. Where do I go from here?

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Speaker 2: There is a quick relevant comment, so devot red says,

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Speaker 2: heard she likes to bought it for couples. That is

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Speaker 1: So can we get a quick TILDR for the new peeps?

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Speaker 2: Apparently they're not close, but they got a couple's massage

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Courtney Ray, the guy friend is not the coworker

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was just rude.

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Speaker 1: It was just rude. Yeah. Oh me, I mean I

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like, like we were saying earlier, she did wrong,

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Speaker 3: Like like I think he can cons fact that there

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Speaker 1: kind of initially communicated that, yeah, feel like it.

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Speaker 2: So question for you, John, would this be enough for

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Speaker 2: you to divorce?

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Speaker 1: Uh? Me personally no? Uh but but I would say

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Speaker 1: what I just said, Yeah, I agree, and then see

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Speaker 1: what is the response from there? Does that finally break

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Speaker 1: through it? And then they're like, oh, here, I was

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Speaker 1: trying to be defensive or whatever because I like didn't

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Speaker 1: maybe they didn't cheat or whatever, It's like, Oh, I'm

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Speaker 1: actually just hurting my partner by the thing. Cheating, cheating

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Speaker 1: allegations died, you know what I mean? So I think

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Speaker 1: I would. Courtney Robbinson says it was booked in advance.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if we I don't know if we

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Speaker 1: know that did we miss that.

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Speaker 2: Do we miss that? I don't think that. I'm not

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Speaker 2: sure we one percent know that if you pulled that

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Speaker 2: from the story, let us know, Yeah, if you, if you.

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Speaker 1: If you, if if that is if that is true,

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Speaker 1: because what she said is she ran into him at

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Speaker 1: the at the place and apparently the spa was almost

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Speaker 1: full and had only one empty slot, so they decided

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Speaker 1: to go in together.

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Speaker 2: That is what she said.

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Speaker 5: About I went through her eye cloud and it's clean.

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Speaker 5: But her CC said she paid for the massage and

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Speaker 5: also left a huge tip. It was scheduled two days

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Speaker 5: in advance. They were there for a week.

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Speaker 3: We missed that, we missed huge.

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Speaker 2: I read that, but I didn't realize two days in advance.

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Speaker 1: Oh oh, she prepaid.

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Speaker 2: That is kind of a smoking gun, is it?

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Speaker 1: Not lying? She lied about the private shower? She about that.

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Speaker 1: It was like, oh this whole time said it was there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, like at the very least you know that

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Speaker 3: she lied now yeah, regard like whether or not she cheated.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so now that we know that, are you closer

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Speaker 2: to divorce? Because that feels pretty smoking.

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Speaker 1: I would keep digging to and and she should have

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Speaker 1: been remorseful already because again cheating allegations aside, just like, hey,

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Speaker 1: maybe uncomfortable if you do a couple of massage. I

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Speaker 1: think that's a reasonable thing to be upset about.

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Speaker 2: I'm feeling like like this might be that would be

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Speaker 2: if I if I found out that that was a

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Speaker 2: I think if that was, if I would I think

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Speaker 2: that would have been I think I would have divorced. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: maybe that divorced. But if I was a girlfriend.

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Speaker 3: Therapy, Yeah, no, you're fine. I was just gonna say,

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Speaker 3: I think start with, hey, I'm upset that you one

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Speaker 3: had a couple's massage, just like thought that that was okay,

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Speaker 3: that you lied about this, this and this, and just

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Speaker 3: kind of confront her with everything you know and see

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Speaker 3: how she responds, Yeah, true, not necessarily accusing and saying

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Speaker 3: you're cheating, just saying I am upset that you lied,

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Speaker 3: that you like everything that you do know for shore,

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Speaker 3: just confront her with that.

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Speaker 2: Diane asked, how is secretly scheduling a couple's massage with

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Speaker 2: a coworker not cheating?

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Speaker 3: We don't know if she did it with the coworker.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think Diane is almost saying, like, like the

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Speaker 1: same way it was, like there's like emotional affairs, Like

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Speaker 1: there's levels to it. What degree of cheating is? Is

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Speaker 1: it a first degree or is it a third degree?

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Speaker 2: I think I think this would be I think this

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Speaker 2: I don't maybe not enough for me to divorce, but

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Speaker 2: I feel like it would be enough for me to

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Speaker 2: If it was a girlfriend breakup, I probably would break

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Speaker 2: up over this. Yeah, like pretty pretty certain unless it

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Speaker 2: was like more than four.

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Speaker 1: Years outside that's outside, that's gold rual territory, golden.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but this is this is it was three I

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Speaker 2: think they've only been together for three years.

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Speaker 1: Not quite that's it.

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Speaker 2: I think that's it. I think I think it's over.

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Speaker 1: But you know it's not over. What this stream? Because

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Speaker 1: we got another story.

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Speaker 5: Unless we would have really quickly read them, don't actually, Sam,

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Speaker 5: could you reread the title for me one real quick?

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Speaker 2: Just from yes, just for him?

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Speaker 1: I found out my wife bought a couple's massage for

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Speaker 1: Thanks y'all, But we got more stories for you. We do,

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Speaker 1: and here we go. Five is I use coconut water

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Speaker 1: for my electrolyzes. Coconut water is good. Such a huge fan.

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Speaker 1: So many haters out there.

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Speaker 2: What of a coconut water?

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Speaker 1: So many? I thought you didn't like coconut, John, I

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Speaker 1: love coconuts. What wait wait, we got so.

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Speaker 2: You literally yeah, you literally were chewing me out the

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Speaker 2: other day about my coconut purchase.

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Speaker 1: What coconut purchase?

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Speaker 2: My Lacroix coconut.

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Speaker 1: Yes, that's what I say. Coconut sucks. Every other thing

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Speaker 1: that's coconut is the greatest thing it's ever existed.

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Speaker 2: What do you mean You've had Lacroix coconut and you're like, oh, gross.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Also, it's three fifty five, three fifty five. That's

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Speaker 1: what I was. I'm confused too. I'm with Sam on this.

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Speaker 2: One, right.

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Speaker 1: Can I have more blue the angle, the camp have

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Speaker 1: more you?

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Speaker 3: Okay? I feel like my my thing about the drinking

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Speaker 3: sad and sassy, But I was I was agreeing with you.

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Speaker 2: It was so sas.

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Speaker 3: I was agreed with you thing.

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Speaker 5: I was thinking, if you sass so much, it sounded

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Speaker 5: like you had one hundred years of experience and he

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Speaker 5: has never drank before.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was just.

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Speaker 3: I think I'm tired, and I was like adding on

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Speaker 3: and so it sounded like I was roasting you, but

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Speaker 3: I was agreeing.

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Speaker 2: I just assumed Sophia is always roasted.

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Speaker 3: No, I was fully just supporting you.

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Speaker 1: It's a dynamic we know in love. Yeah, I feel

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Speaker 1: like Sophia is just so used to roasting me that

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Speaker 1: when she's like, even when she's not trying, she's just roasting.

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Speaker 3: Just underneath.

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Speaker 1: I was just underneath every comment, a little bit of

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Speaker 1: a roast. La Croix Nasty says, Okay says The coconut

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Speaker 1: controversy two ccs A controversy right there.

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Speaker 3: You think you just fell out of a coconut turn.

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Speaker 2: Have you seen that?

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Speaker 3: I've been showing all of the Kamala Harris, and it's

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Speaker 3: like you think you just fell out of a coconut tree.

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Speaker 3: You exist within the cor context. I can't remember.

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Speaker 2: Level twenty seven, Matt. Three months of membership.

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Speaker 1: There's flavored water called joy Burst and that is packed

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Speaker 2: No free sponsors. Level twenty seven, Matt.

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Speaker 1: But thanks for repeating.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate it all.

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Speaker 1: Right, here we go, we got the real number.

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Speaker 3: So from the magic that brought.

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Speaker 2: You, that's such a good gol vibe.

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Speaker 3: Is this from the studio?

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Speaker 1: Anyway? My girlfriend and I agree to take its slow

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Speaker 1: when we started dating, but I just found out that

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Speaker 1: she slept with another guy, so I'll take it with you. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there we go. Context. This is the answer should you

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Speaker 1: ever stay with the long term partner after they cheat?

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Speaker 1: A good question, and it comes from throwaway HUGFF, who

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Speaker 1: says I have been with this girl i'll call Jess

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Speaker 1: for close to a year now, since specifics matter here,

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Speaker 1: we started dating around last Thanksgiving, but it was only

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Speaker 1: about a month later when we say we were an

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Speaker 1: official relationship. I really like this girl from the get go,

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Speaker 1: and we've gotten very close since then, and we're actually

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Speaker 1: planning on moving in together soon. WHOA, WOWAI close to

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Speaker 1: a year, not even a full year?

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Speaker 2: WHOA, that's really early.

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Speaker 3: Yeah? How old is it?

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Speaker 1: Do we know? Twenty seven male and twenty two female?

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Speaker 3: WHOA, that's pretty early for twenty two.

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Speaker 1: Keep the gage. But here's a problem. What okay? Recently,

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Speaker 1: Jess and I ran into a guy at a small

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Speaker 1: get together with mutual friends. They exchanged a weird look

655
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 1: like there was something between them, but I didn't think

656
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:38,479
Speaker 1: too much of it at a time. During the party.

657
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 1: Something came up about the place Jess went to for

658
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 1: a date. The time was clear since it was Christmas

659
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 1: mar a Christmas market in my town. And again I

660
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 1: thought something was off about that guy. I think, baby,

661
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 1: let me know if I'm understanding chat. But they started

662
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 1: dating around thanks Thanksgiving time and they're talking about oh,

663
00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 1: maybe an old date during Christmas time?

664
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 3: Month month to dating.

665
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 1: A month into dating? Did they go to a little

666
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:08,879
Speaker 1: Christmas market? But were they exclusively dating? They said after

667
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:09,320
Speaker 1: a month.

668
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,319
Speaker 3: That says after a month of exclusive dating.

669
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 2: Oh a month, so I think they say, wait they

670
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:17,919
Speaker 2: in the post they said exclusive dating.

671
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 1: They said we made it official after a month. So

672
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:25,839
Speaker 1: we're like, we made it official after a month. Okay,

673
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 1: let me read you this.

674
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 2: So so what it could be is we we got

675
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 2: together November, then in December.

676
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 1: Here's the exact line. We started dating around last Thanksgiving,

677
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 1: but it was only about a month later when we

678
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 1: said we were in a official relationship. I really like

679
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 1: this girl from the get go. Uh and we've gotten

680
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 1: really close since then.

681
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:47,240
Speaker 2: So a facial relationship. A month later, so.

682
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 1: Around basically Christmas, like right around it could have been

683
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 1: right before right before. It wasn't before it's on the line. Well,

684
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:02,839
Speaker 1: so do do do?

685
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:02,880
Speaker 2: Do?

686
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 1: Do? Again? Thank you?

687
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:07,839
Speaker 2: Well, later that night I actually got a text from him.

688
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:09,800
Speaker 1: He got my number from one of the mutual friends,

689
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 1: but said, Hey, I don't know you, but I thought

690
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 1: you should know that Jess and I hooked up right

691
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 1: after Christmas after they were official. Somebody was a ho

692
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 1: ho ho. I can front of Jess about this, and

693
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 1: I could tell she tensed up right away. She got

694
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:31,760
Speaker 1: this sad look on her face, but confessed right away,

695
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 1: beest doesn't sound good. She said she met this guy

696
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:39,279
Speaker 1: on Tinder and hooked up a couple of times, but

697
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:41,720
Speaker 1: stopped any contact before we became official.

698
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:44,359
Speaker 2: Wait, so she is saying that, Wait, that's not true.

699
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:47,400
Speaker 2: Though he said he was after someone's lying, which is

700
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 2: definitely her.

701
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 1: Well, she said she wasn't sure we would get into

702
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 1: a relationship at the time, but she still felt bad

703
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:57,240
Speaker 1: that I found out this way. She said she considered

704
00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:00,440
Speaker 1: telling me but was afraid that it would ruin things

705
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 1: between us.

706
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 3: So wait, I think, oh, okay, So what it seems

707
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:12,399
Speaker 3: like is that he's saying it almost maybe they did

708
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:15,799
Speaker 3: get together after officially after Christmas, so there was.

709
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:20,479
Speaker 1: Like, it's uh, they hooked up together, they made it official. Yes,

710
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:23,360
Speaker 1: so it's like it happened right before she made official.

711
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 1: And she was like, which, I don't think there is

712
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 1: a press cheat. I don't think that's cheating. I don't

713
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 1: think if it's not official exactly, I think like what

714
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 1: they could have been on. How many dates have they

715
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:33,839
Speaker 1: been on?

716
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:36,760
Speaker 3: We don't know. We just know that they were dating

717
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:40,279
Speaker 3: for a month, which I mean understandably you might get

718
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:42,879
Speaker 3: a little sad about it, Yeah, but I don't. It's

719
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 3: not cheating.

720
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 2: It's not cheating. You have no contract with each other.

721
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:49,920
Speaker 1: She said. She said she wasn't sure we would get

722
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:51,360
Speaker 1: into relationship at the time, but so FA bad I

723
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 1: found out about it this way. She said. She considered

724
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 1: telling me but was afraid it would ruin things between us.

725
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 1: I told her I needed some time to think, and

726
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 1: proceeded to get wasted that night and ignored her texts.

727
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,759
Speaker 1: The thing is, I feel very betrayed, and I am

728
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:09,320
Speaker 1: really considering ending things. Sure we weren't official when this happened,

729
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 1: so that then, Yeah, but I don't do you.

730
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 3: Have any real right to be that mad now?

731
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,800
Speaker 2: I think you should assume people are dating other people

732
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:19,879
Speaker 2: until you're I.

733
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:22,440
Speaker 1: Think it, really, I totally agree with both of you,

734
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 1: but different different like places and just I don't know.

735
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 1: People have different expectations, oh for.

736
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:31,400
Speaker 2: Sure, but which is why.

737
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:35,319
Speaker 3: I just think that's what the official talk is for.

738
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 3: It's aligning those expectations. And before that, I think that

739
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 3: you can't expect.

740
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 1: Some I agree with you, but I digress. But we

741
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 1: had already been on multiple dates at that time, and

742
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 1: I thought it was pretty clear that we were moving

743
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:50,799
Speaker 1: towards a full fledged relationship. On my side, I had

744
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 1: no interest in pursuing other girls at that point because

745
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 1: I only wanted to be with Jess, and on her end,

746
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 1: she was definitely hinting at us evolving into a couple

747
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:03,839
Speaker 1: and strongly hinting at ex exclusivity hinting. The other part

748
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 1: that kills me is that during this early stage, Jess

749
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 1: specifically said she wanted to take things slow physically until

750
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:11,280
Speaker 1: we knew each other better.

751
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:16,880
Speaker 2: That maybe that is so, but I also not that

752
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 2: I agree. I guess so I think people lump different

753
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 2: people into different categories of like, oh, this is a

754
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 2: person that I bought a relationship with long term, and

755
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 2: so I want to take things slow and then this

756
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:32,239
Speaker 2: is a person that is just a quick romp in

757
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 2: the sack and then you release it the wild.

758
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 3: Honestly, I think I agree with that.

759
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:39,880
Speaker 1: Of all the things, I could see him being upset

760
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:42,400
Speaker 1: at this one, I could kind of be like I

761
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:47,359
Speaker 1: see because again, they weren't official or anything. But Jess

762
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 1: specifically said she wanted to take things so physically until

763
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:51,879
Speaker 1: we knew each other better. But during the same time,

764
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 1: she hooks up with a guy she barely knew from Tinder.

765
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:56,360
Speaker 1: When I asked her this, she said it was different

766
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:58,800
Speaker 1: because she took us slow with me specifically because she

767
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 1: thought we would get into a relationship, but it was

768
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 1: somehow different than a casual hookup. That logic makes zero

769
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:05,239
Speaker 1: sense to me.

770
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:10,239
Speaker 2: I think, I think that makes total sense. Yeah, I

771
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:10,800
Speaker 2: don't really.

772
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:12,880
Speaker 1: I don't really want to talk with my friends because

773
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:16,359
Speaker 1: I think they would hate Jess if if I think

774
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:20,280
Speaker 1: they would hate Jess if we ended up staying together.

775
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 1: But I would like to hear opinions on here would

776
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 1: you stay in a relationship like this if things were

777
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:28,719
Speaker 1: going well? But the beginning was so shady? Quick deal

778
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 1: the arm my girlfriend met up and hooked up with

779
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 1: a guy while we were dating but not official, while

780
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:35,880
Speaker 1: she was taking it slow with me. If we have

781
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:38,799
Speaker 1: some real of the comments we got more, let's break down.

782
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 1: Fifty nine percent of people say, no, not cheating.

783
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 3: I think I'm not cheating. Also, a lot of people

784
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:46,879
Speaker 3: in the comments were saying that she was hiding it.

785
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 3: But I don't think that any relationships that you have

786
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 3: prior to making an official are relevant.

787
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was like, oh, we were hinting and all

788
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 1: this stuff, but it's like you guys didn't have the

789
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:02,759
Speaker 1: official set have to communicate extremely clear to things. And

790
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:05,319
Speaker 1: granted it was only a month in, so it's like

791
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:07,279
Speaker 1: I think they were both like, Okay, do we want

792
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:10,279
Speaker 1: to do this? But I don't know.

793
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 2: I don't know.

794
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:13,880
Speaker 3: But he had a different timeline I think with your partner.

795
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:14,880
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, with my partner.

796
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 5: But we went on a day and then about two

797
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 5: weeks in I was like, I'm pretty serious about this person.

798
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:19,719
Speaker 1: But we weren't official.

799
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:22,960
Speaker 5: But if I were to do something like a little

800
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:24,919
Speaker 5: after like three weeks in, we were kind of dating

801
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:27,279
Speaker 5: but nothing was official and I did something, I would

802
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 5: feel guilty.

803
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:31,919
Speaker 3: And I would also that you expect that from your girl,

804
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 3: you know, your girlfriend.

805
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 5: I mean it sounds as similar here, like everything was

806
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 5: leading up to it.

807
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 3: I know, but if your girlfriend not saying that she

808
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:41,239
Speaker 3: did or would, but if your girlfriend before you were

809
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:43,920
Speaker 3: official was seeing someone else.

810
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:45,799
Speaker 5: Oh, I feel hurt a little bit, Yeah, because I

811
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 5: was like, Oh, I thought this was gonna be me

812
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 5: and you kind of.

813
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 2: Thing, which it would.

814
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:51,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it would.

815
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 3: Yeah.

816
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:55,919
Speaker 2: I think I expect, like if I'm going into a thing,

817
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 2: I think I expect everyone to be dating other people

818
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:03,280
Speaker 2: until we have a conversation that we decide were Yeah,

819
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:05,320
Speaker 2: just because and also I feel like that's a healthy,

820
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 2: uh thing to have, because that is that is what

821
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 2: could be happening if you haven't had the conversation, So

822
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 2: might as well believe like the worst case scenario other like,

823
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:18,800
Speaker 2: rather than oh this person is with me and me alone.

824
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that you can't towent on, you know,

825
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 3: like you can't think other things about expectations until you've

826
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 3: had that conversation.

827
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, you have to communicate. Yeah, that's that's that's that's

828
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 1: that's what that conversation.

829
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 2: That's honest. Say, I don't know, if you're interested in someone,

830
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 2: are you still planning to hook up with random other guys?

831
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 2: I mean I think it. I mean, I don't know.

832
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:45,800
Speaker 3: People are different. Ex I think that I approach relationships differently,

833
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 3: But I don't think that this is wrong.

834
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I've always I've always like focused on one

835
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 2: person at a time. Yeah.

836
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 3: I think it's just easier for me to manage h

837
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:56,800
Speaker 3: But I don't think that.

838
00:41:57,120 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 2: Being said, I have a bunch of hidden dates.

839
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 3: Planned, which is not Yeah, I think which is. Yeah,

840
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 3: I think that you're allowed to do that. Like I

841
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:06,839
Speaker 3: have a friend who is you know, like people talk

842
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 3: about like the rasta. I think you're allowed to have

843
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 3: your own rasta until you.

844
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:12,280
Speaker 1: Got your star player.

845
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:12,840
Speaker 3: Yeah.

846
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:15,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, like I had a girlfriend that was dating

847
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 2: like five other guys when like actually was dating me. Yeah,

848
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 2: I think then, but.

849
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 1: What you want exactly?

850
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, they liked you the best, So isn't that great?

851
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:29,759
Speaker 3: Like if you if you make an official they liked

852
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:30,359
Speaker 3: you the best.

853
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:35,360
Speaker 2: I would honestly, I would rather someone like actually view

854
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 2: their options and then choose me over just like, oh,

855
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:41,239
Speaker 2: this is the only person that that's here.

856
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:43,800
Speaker 1: A taxi theory?

857
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:45,440
Speaker 2: What's the taxi theory?

858
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:46,239
Speaker 1: You know what it is?

859
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 5: Sofia, No, basically with guys just may not like relate

860
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:54,440
Speaker 5: to girls. But whenever guys get out of a relationship,

861
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 5: their taxild is on. So whoever sits in the seat first,

862
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:59,839
Speaker 5: they'll stay with them until they get out.

863
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think there's truth to that for some people,

864
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 1: for some people, not for everyone, but we do have

865
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 1: some worl of in comments, A hardline sixty one says,

866
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:16,799
Speaker 1: in my opinion, if you're dating someone and moving towards

867
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:20,799
Speaker 1: a serious relationship, you don't freaking bang other people. This

868
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 1: would be a deal breaker for me, but you do,

869
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 1: you man. If you can't get past it, then end it.

870
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 1: But dating is discovering if you're serious about someone, you

871
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 1: have to communicate it if that is how you feel

872
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 1: like which but then that also puts It's almost like

873
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 1: puts this pressure if you feel If I think if

874
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 1: Op feels like that, then he should be then he

875
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 1: should say, hey, if we're going to start dating, I

876
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 1: want it to be like want it to be exclusive like.

877
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:50,720
Speaker 2: On date one. He has to say it and didn't.

878
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:52,400
Speaker 2: He has to say it as soon as he would

879
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:55,319
Speaker 2: as soon as he would be a bothered by it.

880
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 5: But the dating world this day is so finicky, Like

881
00:43:57,520 --> 00:43:59,479
Speaker 5: if you say something like that, they might like run away.

882
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:02,920
Speaker 3: Well then then, but then, yeah, I don't think you

883
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 3: have a right you expect something that you don't communicate.

884
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think exactly here we go, starts, follow up,

885
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:13,839
Speaker 1: expectations without communication are secrets, right, and so I think

886
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 1: there if you have any expectation on your of your

887
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 1: partner and you don't say it, it's essentially a secret

888
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 1: and it's not applicable. Your partner can't and you're not

889
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 1: a line that you're trying to find someone you want

890
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 1: to be with in aligned with you. Opie says, yeah,

891
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 1: that's how I felt. How I feel as well. It

892
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 1: would have to be. It would have been one thing

893
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:35,359
Speaker 1: if she was talking to other guys in the early

894
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 1: stages while we were still defining things. Of course, that's

895
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 1: fine and normal, But it feels like a slap in

896
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:42,440
Speaker 1: the face that she found another guy to sleep with

897
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:44,319
Speaker 1: after we had already gone on quite a few dates

898
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 1: and I made it clear I thought we were moving

899
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 1: towards a serious relationship, which she seemed to also acknowledge.

900
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 1: There's no way she didn't know. I would feel hurt

901
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 1: that she did that for a month.

902
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:56,800
Speaker 3: A month is ideah, a month?

903
00:44:57,239 --> 00:45:00,160
Speaker 1: OPI, that's crazy. Opie's big in his feels.

904
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 3: Think especially also Opie saying I thought we like I

905
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:05,760
Speaker 3: thought we were on the stame, but you can't think

906
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:07,759
Speaker 3: that's what Yeah, that's what the conversations are for.

907
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:10,239
Speaker 2: Assuming makes an ass at you and me.

908
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 1: Opie also added to a deleted comment, Uh, yeah, her

909
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:17,920
Speaker 1: loge her logic made no sense to me. She tried

910
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 1: to explain that with guys she wants to be in

911
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:22,880
Speaker 1: a relationship. Uh. When she wants to be in a relationship,

912
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:24,799
Speaker 1: she wants it to feel special and wants to build

913
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:27,440
Speaker 1: an emotional connection. But for guys she sees no future

914
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 1: with She sometimes just wanted some physical fund that meant nothing.

915
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:33,879
Speaker 2: Like per who does not.

916
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:36,359
Speaker 3: Engage in like hookup culture at all. I think that

917
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 3: makes total sense.

918
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 1: I think it makes sense, but like like I wouldn't

919
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 1: personally do it.

920
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:45,359
Speaker 3: Well yeah, no, again I wouldn't do it. I think

921
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 3: it makes sense.

922
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 1: Yeah again again, there was just no community. That's really

923
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 1: the full stop there.

924
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 2: But I just can't wrap my rind around that.

925
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 1: It feels like a gut punch that we were getting

926
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 1: closer and building a connection. She didn't want to be

927
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 1: intimate with me, but instead for to find someone else,

928
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 1: no matter how she rationalized it, it's hard to not

929
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:05,360
Speaker 1: feel like a second choice of sorts.

930
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 3: But you literally aren't you were her first choice. I

931
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 3: don't know. I mean like he's I guess he can

932
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:13,800
Speaker 3: feel however he wants to feel, but I think.

933
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 2: That I so yeah, I mean he could feel however

934
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 2: he wants to feel, but I think it's not fair

935
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 2: of him to put an expectation on it. And then

936
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 2: in terms of what she's talking about the categorization of

937
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:27,760
Speaker 2: like different partners, that there's like sometimes long term partners

938
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 2: and you want to go slower with them, and then

939
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:31,400
Speaker 2: there's short term partners and then you could just like

940
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 2: hook up immediately. I think in those cases, as long

941
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 2: as you're communicating to each people, like each person about

942
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 2: what it is and it's like, hey, I view this

943
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 2: is a short term thing. Are you okay with that?

944
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 2: And like that's fine or I view this as long

945
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:48,920
Speaker 2: term things. But as soon as you as soon as

946
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 2: you categorize, you should you should tell.

947
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:53,799
Speaker 3: And also a couple of people in the comments we're

948
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 3: talking about, like you should let you know partners that

949
00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:00,799
Speaker 3: you're seeing know that you're seeing other people, Oh, like

950
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 3: they're safe like STDs wise, but we also know that

951
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:07,759
Speaker 3: she wasn't you know, wasn't sleeping with him because she

952
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 3: said she wanted to take it slow.

953
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, so.

954
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:13,840
Speaker 3: It doesn't seem like that even applies there.

955
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, bro just didn't communicate. Yeah, so he he can

956
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 1: feel how he feels, but like.

957
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 3: It's she, he can feel how he feels. But I

958
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 3: don't think she's done anything.

959
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:27,719
Speaker 1: There's gotta be other reddit comments that agree with us.

960
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, why is he just picking all the ones that

961
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:30,160
Speaker 3: I really Yeah.

962
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the one he's responding to, which makes sense.

963
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:35,880
Speaker 1: He's just staying in his own bubble and reinforcing his

964
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 1: own thoughts.

965
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:39,759
Speaker 2: But we do have an update. Oh twenty three days later.

966
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:44,760
Speaker 2: Oh now another month in the whole whole relationship basically.

967
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 1: So yeah right, yeah, as the title says, I decided

968
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:52,879
Speaker 1: to break up with Jess. It's over.

969
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:55,799
Speaker 3: That's I mean, you know, what, if he's gonna do that,

970
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:56,400
Speaker 3: he can do that.

971
00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:59,440
Speaker 2: He has every right to do it. But I think

972
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 2: is really are dumb.

973
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:03,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I agree. I kept going back and

974
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:05,400
Speaker 1: forth because I was worried I was throwing away a

975
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:07,759
Speaker 1: great thing over something that happened in the past. But

976
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 1: The problem is I thought I really wouldn't be able

977
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 1: to get past it. I can't help, Uh, I can't help.

978
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:15,879
Speaker 1: What she did was really crappy. Yes, I know that

979
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:17,280
Speaker 1: technically she did not cheat.

980
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:19,920
Speaker 3: I mean technically she did she she.

981
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 1: Didn't cheat, but she knew that I wanted a real

982
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:25,360
Speaker 1: relationship and that we were potentially moving in that direction.

983
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:28,880
Speaker 1: But meanwhile, potentially, but meanwhile, she expected me to plan

984
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:31,719
Speaker 1: and pay for interesting dates, court her and prove that

985
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:34,240
Speaker 1: I was quote unquote worthy of her, while she happily

986
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:38,800
Speaker 1: hooked up with Rando's one person who basically did nothing

987
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 1: but show an interest in effing.

988
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 3: That's literally dating, f That's literally that's what dating is

989
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:48,719
Speaker 3: for proving that you are you know, someone that they

990
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:49,359
Speaker 3: want to be with.

991
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:53,319
Speaker 2: But maybe he has more antiquated ideas of what dating

992
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 2: and experience.

993
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:57,520
Speaker 3: They're not, in which case they are not compatibleun't stay

994
00:48:57,520 --> 00:48:57,719
Speaker 3: with her.

995
00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:01,200
Speaker 1: So yeah, man, maybe logic sound maybe is like, all right,

996
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:02,920
Speaker 1: this is not a compatible person.

997
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:04,840
Speaker 2: I wouldn't do this or someone else. So like he

998
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:05,839
Speaker 2: like he's if.

999
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 3: He doesn't want to stay in this relationship, that is

1000
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:08,400
Speaker 3: his prerogative.

1001
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:08,719
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1002
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:11,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, and Op is a guy.

1003
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 1: I think he's I think he's very insecure. Yeah, I

1004
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 1: think like, yeah.

1005
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:20,600
Speaker 2: But it could be like maybe he has different views

1006
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 2: around what what uh spicy sleep means and it's like, oh,

1007
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:27,839
Speaker 2: I view it as more sacred, not to like it's

1008
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 2: it's it's it's never casual for me. And thus if

1009
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:34,280
Speaker 2: that is his view, they would not be aligned.

1010
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 1: I think he's just a.

1011
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 2: Potentially that too.

1012
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:42,440
Speaker 1: But yeah. Uh. In a follow up conversation, it also

1013
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:45,080
Speaker 1: came up that her friend sort of guided her to

1014
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:49,239
Speaker 1: act like them, that she should basically allow herself to

1015
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:52,360
Speaker 1: have fun and keep her casual options open. Uh, but

1016
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:55,719
Speaker 1: with me to quote unquote make me work for it

1017
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:58,520
Speaker 1: and show that I wasn't just looking for spicy sleep

1018
00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:02,000
Speaker 1: but was capable of being a committed partner. The whole

1019
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 1: thing just seems so manipulative and ugly. And these were

1020
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:07,440
Speaker 1: also mutual friends who I consider to be nice girls

1021
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 1: and now my friends as well. Now I never want

1022
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:12,760
Speaker 1: to see any of these pieces of crap ever. Again.

1023
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:15,360
Speaker 1: Oh again, he's so salty.

1024
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:18,319
Speaker 3: I think his friends were like, I feel like he's

1025
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:19,799
Speaker 3: just mad that he didn't.

1026
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:21,600
Speaker 1: Get asleep with her exactly.

1027
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:24,279
Speaker 3: Yes, this is kind of giving. Yeah, it's like they

1028
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 3: go to sleep with her and I did it.

1029
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:33,320
Speaker 2: That's not fair, Yeah that I feel, like, yeah, I agree.

1030
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 3: You know, I'm sorry. No one owes you spicy sleep,

1031
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:39,520
Speaker 3: regardless of whether or not they are giving it to

1032
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:41,040
Speaker 3: someone else. No one owes you that.

1033
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:44,759
Speaker 1: He's just yeah, very I'm I'm picking up very much.

1034
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 3: She could be sleeping with one hundred other men and

1035
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 3: not you, and she still doesn't know you that dude,

1036
00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:51,000
Speaker 3: let's go, she slept with all those other men.

1037
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:53,239
Speaker 1: I know this is starting to sound like a bit

1038
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:55,520
Speaker 1: of a rant role, but I feel pretty pissed and

1039
00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 1: pissed off too, had basically called it quits. The actual

1040
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 1: breakup was actually quite unpleasant. No harsh words were exchanged,

1041
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:04,920
Speaker 1: but Jess cried and we kind of talked about some

1042
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 1: happy times. I guess that's the hardest part about this. Like,

1043
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 1: I don't think she is a bad girl, and maybe

1044
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:12,719
Speaker 1: we could have had a nice future together like we

1045
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:14,799
Speaker 1: did over the past few months. But in the end,

1046
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:16,919
Speaker 1: I do think I made the right decision. I want

1047
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:18,759
Speaker 1: to be with someone who treats me well from the

1048
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 1: get go, not someone who manipulates me while playing games

1049
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:24,319
Speaker 1: just so she can have her cake, eat it two

1050
00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:25,080
Speaker 1: and what.

1051
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:27,239
Speaker 2: Is the manipulation that I hate him so much?

1052
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:33,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's just like Bronie's a calm.

1053
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 3: Honestly, thank god he broke up with her. Yeah, she

1054
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 3: deserves to find someone else.

1055
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:40,359
Speaker 1: Like, if he feels this strongly about something like this,

1056
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:42,960
Speaker 1: there'd probably be other things in the relationship that he

1057
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 1: would feel yeah, wrongly about, Like absolutely ridiculous.

1058
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:48,920
Speaker 3: That they seemingly had like a really good relationship for

1059
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:49,680
Speaker 3: almost a year.

1060
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 1: But but like if this is I'm glad, I'm glad

1061
00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:57,120
Speaker 1: they broke up because obviously he has these kind of

1062
00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:01,080
Speaker 1: beliefs that do not align with this relationship was as

1063
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:03,600
Speaker 1: good as he said it was. I feel like he

1064
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:05,880
Speaker 1: could come to the table be like, look, here is

1065
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:09,320
Speaker 1: the reaction that I'm having. But like, obviously I'm invested

1066
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 1: in to this relationship, and I don't want to, you know,

1067
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:16,239
Speaker 1: take things out on you or you know whatever. Maybe

1068
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:18,279
Speaker 1: I'm having these emotions, but can we kind of like

1069
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:21,520
Speaker 1: come together, come to the table, and you know, I

1070
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:23,840
Speaker 1: don't almost have her help him work through it in

1071
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 1: a in a way, you know what I'm trying to say,

1072
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:30,759
Speaker 1: like almost almost realizing like maybe I'm being irrational.

1073
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:36,439
Speaker 2: And someone in the chat says, uh, But I think

1074
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 2: he just wanted honesty, And but I don't think that, like,

1075
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 2: it's not honesty to give your whole relationship status before

1076
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:48,239
Speaker 2: you're officially seeing someone.

1077
00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:49,360
Speaker 1: I don't think.

1078
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:54,839
Speaker 3: I think I just really don't think anyone anything is

1079
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:58,920
Speaker 3: relevant before before you start officially dating.

1080
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:04,120
Speaker 1: Well, I'm saying murky because they didn't or he didn't communicate,

1081
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:08,240
Speaker 1: Like because of him not communicating, that's what it made murky,

1082
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 1: and no one knew what the expected.

1083
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:09,839
Speaker 6: I think.

1084
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:13,600
Speaker 3: But if he had asked, that's a different story. But

1085
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:16,959
Speaker 3: I don't necessarily know if she needs to offer that up.

1086
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:19,680
Speaker 2: I don't think she has to offer it.

1087
00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:22,000
Speaker 3: I don't think she has to offer it. But yeah,

1088
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:25,080
Speaker 3: because honestays, I think he wanted transparency. Did he ask

1089
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:25,319
Speaker 3: for that?

1090
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:26,520
Speaker 1: Did he say?

1091
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:29,640
Speaker 2: Yeah? Didn't say were you seeing anyone else before me? Yeah?

1092
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:30,120
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1093
00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 3: Did he ever ask that? Because I think he just

1094
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:33,280
Speaker 3: assumed a lot of things.

1095
00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:35,520
Speaker 1: Which I think if you if he asked and she

1096
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:38,480
Speaker 1: didn't say anything, that would a different thing. Yeah, because

1097
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:40,640
Speaker 1: then he would be like, hey, this is actually important

1098
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:43,640
Speaker 1: to me, right, And now he's making his his things

1099
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 1: things known and then he can decide whether he wants

1100
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:48,600
Speaker 1: to be in the relationship past that, and he never

1101
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:52,799
Speaker 1: acknowledged his own like lack of He just like very aggressively,

1102
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:55,399
Speaker 1: like put all the blame on her.

1103
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:58,520
Speaker 3: Yeah dead the gamer. So she clearly wanted him as

1104
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 3: a second option. Guys, I think you could have options.

1105
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:07,440
Speaker 3: I think you can have options before you start officially dating.

1106
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:08,080
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1107
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:10,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is just I mean again, this is just

1108
00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:12,680
Speaker 3: my opinions on dating. And if you guys have different ones,

1109
00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:15,400
Speaker 3: that's like those are your own and that's fine. But

1110
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:16,319
Speaker 3: I think for me, I.

1111
00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:19,280
Speaker 1: Think Valkyrie says, if we remove the sex from dating,

1112
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:24,839
Speaker 1: then finding your partner is easier. Our great grandparents had

1113
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:28,480
Speaker 1: it sorted. Courting is the way to go. Hookup culture

1114
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:29,719
Speaker 1: is trash.

1115
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:32,760
Speaker 3: I think. I think hookup culture can make things harder

1116
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 3: to find romantic relationships, but I I think people are

1117
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:38,520
Speaker 3: doing their own thing.

1118
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:43,120
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, and.

1119
00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:46,080
Speaker 3: This is also coming from like, I have very different

1120
00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:49,239
Speaker 3: approaches to dating than this person. I don't think it

1121
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:50,280
Speaker 3: makes her wrong.

1122
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:55,600
Speaker 1: For It's.

1123
00:54:55,960 --> 00:55:01,319
Speaker 2: Shelley do Sell, donos Asian persuasion, Midwest hack, drink on

1124
00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:06,400
Speaker 2: an empty stomach to save money, Alicia, thanks for the

1125
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:13,719
Speaker 2: five bucks. I just got my diploma. Belle Conkling celebrating

1126
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:17,840
Speaker 2: four months of membership. Riley, what's the biggest Safari animal

1127
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:23,400
Speaker 2: you could win, kill or be killed? No weapons, no armor, hyena,

1128
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:30,120
Speaker 2: baby elephant, ostrich zeba, baby rhino, et cetera, and.

1129
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:33,160
Speaker 3: Whatever, Riley says. I'm then going to fact check it.

1130
00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:39,800
Speaker 1: A gazelle. No, it's in fact cheat.

1131
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:43,200
Speaker 3: Unless you had like, unless you had a weapon bare

1132
00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:46,760
Speaker 3: handed your Yeah, No, there's no way you're beating gazelle.

1133
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:47,319
Speaker 2: You couldn't eat.

1134
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:50,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, if it was in a room with me, Yeah,

1135
00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:54,560
Speaker 5: killing animal, So I have no cha. It has horns,

1136
00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:59,279
Speaker 5: I know I would do my best. A goat would

1137
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:00,879
Speaker 5: give a deserved goats out in the.

1138
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:02,280
Speaker 1: Safari you could you could.

1139
00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:03,480
Speaker 2: Get again, I think you could get a go a

1140
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:05,759
Speaker 2: baby score there definitely.

1141
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:07,839
Speaker 3: A baby squirrel. Actually, no, you could get that.

1142
00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:10,239
Speaker 2: Matt Hatter Gat likes to the five bucks. And this

1143
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:12,799
Speaker 2: was me and my boyfriend when we started dating. We're

1144
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:15,040
Speaker 2: we're still seeing other people before we made it official.

1145
00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:18,880
Speaker 2: I think it's very I think that's yeah, but you know,

1146
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:21,040
Speaker 2: in different parts of the world it's different. I think

1147
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:22,240
Speaker 2: it's very common.

1148
00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:24,840
Speaker 1: I think within our demographic.

1149
00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:28,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, within within LA within our demographic. I think

1150
00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:32,600
Speaker 2: the assumption is like people are dating multiple people before

1151
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:33,360
Speaker 2: they make it official.

1152
00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:36,000
Speaker 3: I think you can only control what you do before

1153
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:36,640
Speaker 3: it's official.

1154
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:42,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, agreed, Stars fall Up. My grandma said, date, date

1155
00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:44,760
Speaker 2: as many people as you want until you are asked

1156
00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:50,200
Speaker 2: to go steady wise words from Grandma, Queen Apasta, hot take.

1157
00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:55,200
Speaker 2: Disloyalty is disloyalty unofficial or not? If you're going on dates,

1158
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:58,480
Speaker 2: you're dating, y'all are together. I don't get this thing

1159
00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:00,800
Speaker 2: of people dating more than one per at a time,

1160
00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:02,719
Speaker 2: so cheating death.

1161
00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:04,920
Speaker 3: I gots said, disagree.

1162
00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:08,200
Speaker 1: I think so so, Queen of Pasta. What you're saying

1163
00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:11,359
Speaker 1: is someone asked you out and you go on a date.

1164
00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:15,600
Speaker 1: Now you're dating until you decide whether to end it

1165
00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:17,520
Speaker 1: or now you're exclusive.

1166
00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:22,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're immediately from date one you are now exclusive.

1167
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:26,760
Speaker 2: Automatically you haven't had a conversation or anything, but immediately

1168
00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:30,560
Speaker 2: from date one you're exclusive. And if you see anyone

1169
00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:36,240
Speaker 2: else or kiss anyone else, it is cheating. That is

1170
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:40,840
Speaker 2: a hot pick. Stars fall Ups for the two bucks.

1171
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 2: Expectations without communication are secrets agreed, Intertwined Realms. Thanks for

1172
00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:52,840
Speaker 2: the ten gifted membership. Oh let's go Sophia John I

1173
00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:53,560
Speaker 2: want to take it from here.

1174
00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:56,240
Speaker 3: Counter Kit, thank you for the five bucks. It's my birthday,

1175
00:57:56,320 --> 00:57:59,360
Speaker 3: got another birthday, Happy birthday. Gotta go to the beach now,

1176
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:02,320
Speaker 3: going to out steakhouse with y'all in my ear, best

1177
00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:07,240
Speaker 3: birthday ever, a steak on us Asian Persuasion. Thank you

1178
00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:12,400
Speaker 3: for the two books. They were platonic, obviously, was that

1179
00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:13,920
Speaker 3: the what was that in reference to?

1180
00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:17,240
Speaker 1: I think maybe with Ope and his girlfriend they were

1181
00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:21,120
Speaker 1: platonic initially. Oh well, there it is not intimate.

1182
00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:25,000
Speaker 3: Yeah. And Intertwined Realms. Thank you for the fifty buck two.

1183
00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:29,360
Speaker 3: Been listening to you all NonStop on Spotify today. I

1184
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:30,040
Speaker 3: have a great day.

1185
00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:32,920
Speaker 2: Let's go. We have been noticing people checking out the

1186
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Speaker 2: Spotify more.

1187
00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:36,160
Speaker 1: Rookie of the Stream, inter Intertwined Realms. I'm calling it

1188
00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:37,680
Speaker 1: right now like Rookie.

1189
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Speaker 2: MVP, Rookie MV true Rookie MVP Intertwined Realms. Welcome, gl

1190
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:44,360
Speaker 2: you're here. Yeah.

1191
00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:45,000
Speaker 1: Uh.

1192
00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:47,960
Speaker 3: Gabrielle Morris said, thank you for the seventy three scens

1193
00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:50,760
Speaker 3: And Queen Apasta, thank you for the two books. I'm

1194
00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:52,400
Speaker 3: very I'm way old fashioned.

1195
00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:56,760
Speaker 2: What hey? Everyone entitled to how they want to want

1196
00:58:56,760 --> 00:58:57,080
Speaker 2: to date.

1197
00:58:57,240 --> 00:58:59,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know it just I feel like, just as

1198
00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:00,600
Speaker 3: long as you're community getting.

1199
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:02,400
Speaker 2: As long as you're as long as you're communicating. But

1200
00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:05,760
Speaker 2: I think if that's the case, you should you shouldn't

1201
00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:09,680
Speaker 2: necessarily assume that other people are are thinking the same

1202
00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:12,760
Speaker 2: and you might want to say like you might want

1203
00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:15,600
Speaker 2: to say, like, hey, this is how I view dating,

1204
00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:17,000
Speaker 2: that we're exclusive right now.

1205
00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:18,800
Speaker 1: You just can't put it on the other person without

1206
00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:20,160
Speaker 1: having a conversation.

1207
00:59:20,680 --> 00:59:26,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, happened, But I think that is where that story

1208
00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:29,960
Speaker 2: ends Boiled boy, and the next one begins the story.

1209
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:35,080
Speaker 2: Oh and Patricia Schwablonde, welcome to the Knights. Let's go

1210
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Speaker 2: join the family, getting the membership so you can enjoy

1211
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Speaker 2: all these.

1212
00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:44,160
Speaker 1: Records so much more content. Y'all didn't even know. Don't

1213
00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:47,280
Speaker 1: even even dude, they don't even know. They don't even

1214
00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:50,200
Speaker 1: know about the They don't know a bit about the Bee.

1215
00:59:51,240 --> 00:59:51,880
Speaker 1: They don't even know.

1216
00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:53,040
Speaker 2: They don't even know about B.

1217
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:54,000
Speaker 1: Be is gonna happen?

1218
00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:54,800
Speaker 2: Happen?

1219
00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:54,920
Speaker 3: What?

1220
00:59:55,560 --> 00:59:56,680
Speaker 2: What's b What is this?

1221
00:59:56,960 --> 00:59:59,520
Speaker 1: Yeah? You can, you can go on discord and do

1222
00:59:59,640 --> 01:00:03,600
Speaker 1: all your theories. Yeah, oute Sophia doesn't even know what

1223
01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:05,920
Speaker 1: B is. She does, but she doesn't she does, she does,

1224
01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:06,960
Speaker 1: she does talking about it.

1225
01:00:07,240 --> 01:00:11,880
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, let's get into this next story. I

1226
01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:15,960
Speaker 3: just found my boyfriend of two years on Grinder? How

1227
01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:16,640
Speaker 3: do I move on?

1228
01:00:17,120 --> 01:00:20,720
Speaker 1: Whytch him? Thank you? Yes? Dude? Wait?

1229
01:00:20,760 --> 01:00:21,760
Speaker 3: Why were you on Grinder?

1230
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:26,520
Speaker 2: Yes, it's Escape.

1231
01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:29,440
Speaker 3: By the way, you can join us live on YouTube

1232
01:00:29,600 --> 01:00:32,240
Speaker 3: every weekday at three pm Pacific Standard time. Just tap

1233
01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:35,000
Speaker 3: our profile. And this is to answer the question of

1234
01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:37,640
Speaker 3: should you ever stay with the long term partner after

1235
01:00:37,960 --> 01:00:43,000
Speaker 3: they cheat? So Leah Loves Lilies says context. I twenty

1236
01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:46,640
Speaker 3: two female and my boyfriend, twenty eight male. Uh, it

1237
01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:50,360
Speaker 3: was horrible. We had just arrived at my beach house

1238
01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:52,600
Speaker 3: where we were going to spend the week. All week,

1239
01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:55,280
Speaker 3: we were looking for a good pizza place and I

1240
01:00:55,360 --> 01:00:59,080
Speaker 3: screenshoted my favorites. I open his gallery to choose the

1241
01:00:59,120 --> 01:01:03,840
Speaker 3: pizza and found various pictures of him nude and other

1242
01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:04,800
Speaker 3: men as well.

1243
01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:09,120
Speaker 2: Wait, him with other men nude or just him nude.

1244
01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:12,040
Speaker 3: Him nude with other menace and other men as well.

1245
01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:13,440
Speaker 2: Oh like separate pictures?

1246
01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:16,080
Speaker 3: It doesn't. I think it's probably separate pictures, but that's

1247
01:01:16,680 --> 01:01:20,080
Speaker 3: somewhat damning. When I confronted him about it, he said

1248
01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:23,920
Speaker 3: he just traded pictures on grinder for an adventure. And

1249
01:01:24,080 --> 01:01:26,840
Speaker 3: he said he never encountered those men. But honestly, I

1250
01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:27,880
Speaker 3: couldn't trust him.

1251
01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:29,800
Speaker 2: Like he's collected him like Pokemon guards.

1252
01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:33,360
Speaker 3: Wait, I'm sorry. He admitted it. He admitted it, and

1253
01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:35,360
Speaker 3: then she was like, I don't know if I can

1254
01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:37,560
Speaker 3: trust him. He's already admitted.

1255
01:01:37,640 --> 01:01:42,720
Speaker 2: You cannot trust him. You're in a relationship and he's

1256
01:01:42,840 --> 01:01:44,440
Speaker 2: trading nudies with other duties.

1257
01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:47,720
Speaker 1: Uh, he's going on in an adventure. Yeah, it's true.

1258
01:01:47,720 --> 01:01:50,440
Speaker 1: He's an adventure. It's like the little kid from up

1259
01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:51,880
Speaker 1: Adventurer is out there.

1260
01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:57,440
Speaker 3: If he wanted to only trade pictures, he would do

1261
01:01:57,480 --> 01:02:00,320
Speaker 3: it online. Those apps are meant to find people near you.

1262
01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:03,680
Speaker 3: I can't trust him. He should pictures.

1263
01:02:03,840 --> 01:02:06,200
Speaker 2: No, you can't trust the shouldn't.

1264
01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:10,400
Speaker 3: Be trading pictures at all. Already there, Sammy, thank you

1265
01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:12,760
Speaker 3: for the any buck tip. Have you guys? Have you

1266
01:02:12,840 --> 01:02:14,880
Speaker 3: guys in my ear as I sit here watching my

1267
01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:17,680
Speaker 3: daughter paint and stuff at her Girl Scout Twilight Camp.

1268
01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:20,920
Speaker 3: How to drive fast because we were late doing due

1269
01:02:20,960 --> 01:02:24,400
Speaker 3: to me getting off late. Urn Amazon truck came super late.

1270
01:02:25,400 --> 01:02:26,600
Speaker 2: Freaking trucks put.

1271
01:02:26,520 --> 01:02:29,600
Speaker 3: Us in your ear this is wild hope he should

1272
01:02:29,600 --> 01:02:29,960
Speaker 3: break up.

1273
01:02:30,800 --> 01:02:34,080
Speaker 2: Yeah. So to be clear, they are in a relationship

1274
01:02:34,240 --> 01:02:36,840
Speaker 2: and he is swapping nudies with duties yes, and.

1275
01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:38,960
Speaker 3: Then say and then she's like, I don't know if

1276
01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:39,840
Speaker 3: I should trust that.

1277
01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:43,120
Speaker 1: No, you should not trust him. Ace makes it says,

1278
01:02:43,240 --> 01:02:48,520
Speaker 1: what are the boundaries of their relationship? Needs to clarify communication, Guys,

1279
01:02:48,640 --> 01:02:52,600
Speaker 1: just a lot that sending these nudies to other duties

1280
01:02:52,760 --> 01:02:54,560
Speaker 1: is in an adventure.

1281
01:02:55,640 --> 01:02:58,640
Speaker 3: Boy. Uh and the worst part is yet to come.

1282
01:02:59,120 --> 01:02:59,320
Speaker 1: Oh.

1283
01:03:00,520 --> 01:03:04,040
Speaker 3: He admitted he lied and his relationship. His last relationship

1284
01:03:04,200 --> 01:03:07,360
Speaker 3: ended for similar reasons, so this was something from way

1285
01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:10,160
Speaker 3: back before we were together. I bought a bus ticket

1286
01:03:10,200 --> 01:03:12,240
Speaker 3: for him back home while he was out of his way.

1287
01:03:12,720 --> 01:03:14,840
Speaker 3: I called his mom because I needed to know if

1288
01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:17,360
Speaker 3: he went out with anyone. In May, when we were

1289
01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:19,680
Speaker 3: not seeing each other because of the medical congress, I

1290
01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:23,800
Speaker 3: went to I discovered he also lied about his last relationship.

1291
01:03:24,240 --> 01:03:26,160
Speaker 3: The first time he hit on me was twenty twenty

1292
01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:28,640
Speaker 3: one and he was still with his girlfriend. He said

1293
01:03:28,680 --> 01:03:31,280
Speaker 3: he spent two years with her. He was actually four

1294
01:03:31,320 --> 01:03:34,080
Speaker 3: and a half years. He said he was single for

1295
01:03:34,160 --> 01:03:37,880
Speaker 3: two years. It was only six months. Break up, breakout

1296
01:03:38,000 --> 01:03:40,440
Speaker 3: he's breaking up on everything. Yeah, this guy sucks? Or

1297
01:03:40,720 --> 01:03:43,080
Speaker 3: is he going on a lot of adventures?

1298
01:03:44,680 --> 01:03:48,400
Speaker 2: I mean definitely going on it for sure, not an

1299
01:03:48,400 --> 01:03:49,600
Speaker 2: adventure I want to go on, though.

1300
01:03:49,680 --> 01:03:53,200
Speaker 3: No, I discovered the whole situation was so insane she

1301
01:03:53,360 --> 01:03:55,840
Speaker 3: dropped out of college to not see him anymore. I

1302
01:03:55,920 --> 01:03:59,320
Speaker 3: didn't even know she studied in the same collegism. Apparently

1303
01:03:59,440 --> 01:04:02,800
Speaker 3: they got in together. Also, he had told me before

1304
01:04:03,480 --> 01:04:07,440
Speaker 3: of a sexual encounter he had in mid twenty twenty one. Therefore,

1305
01:04:07,480 --> 01:04:12,240
Speaker 3: he accidentally admitted having an affair with his last girlfriend.

1306
01:04:12,760 --> 01:04:16,240
Speaker 1: What because she because they were getting to you?

1307
01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:18,480
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, so he basically admitted to Cheetah.

1308
01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:23,040
Speaker 3: Oh my god, she's stupid. Dude. I'm so in utter disbelief.

1309
01:04:23,120 --> 01:04:25,520
Speaker 3: He had never done anything to make me feel even

1310
01:04:25,640 --> 01:04:29,320
Speaker 3: slightly suspicious. I can't trust anyone anymore. I don't know

1311
01:04:29,400 --> 01:04:32,400
Speaker 3: what to do. Can anyone redirect me to a support group,

1312
01:04:32,960 --> 01:04:36,160
Speaker 3: anything for resources? I really need help at this moment.

1313
01:04:36,600 --> 01:04:39,560
Speaker 3: I feel so humiliated, it so betrayed. I don't know

1314
01:04:39,640 --> 01:04:43,200
Speaker 3: what to do. Yes, we already broke up and there

1315
01:04:43,280 --> 01:04:46,560
Speaker 3: are some comments and an update to this tale.

1316
01:04:46,840 --> 01:04:47,200
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1317
01:04:47,440 --> 01:04:49,680
Speaker 2: Start like going to therapy.

1318
01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:53,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, listen to a certain podcast that gives good advice.

1319
01:04:53,520 --> 01:04:59,320
Speaker 2: Goofyou relation that basically is free therapyre therapy will wait.

1320
01:04:59,440 --> 01:05:01,320
Speaker 1: Okay, so one was kind of do you see that

1321
01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:03,720
Speaker 1: comment to someone quite like kind of roasting us a

1322
01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:05,720
Speaker 1: little bit where it's like, well, they didn't establish the

1323
01:05:05,760 --> 01:05:07,640
Speaker 1: boundaries of their relationship.

1324
01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:14,720
Speaker 2: Really quick though. Honestly, to address that, I actually think

1325
01:05:14,800 --> 01:05:18,160
Speaker 2: when you get in a relationship, it's important to define

1326
01:05:18,760 --> 01:05:19,800
Speaker 2: what that means.

1327
01:05:19,960 --> 01:05:20,439
Speaker 3: That is true?

1328
01:05:20,600 --> 01:05:22,960
Speaker 2: What's that true? What that like? The more that you

1329
01:05:23,080 --> 01:05:26,640
Speaker 2: define what that means, the better the relationship.

1330
01:05:26,080 --> 01:05:28,280
Speaker 3: Will be and the less miscommunication you'll have.

1331
01:05:28,840 --> 01:05:31,040
Speaker 2: Like what does flirting look like to you? Like, what

1332
01:05:31,200 --> 01:05:32,960
Speaker 2: do you do you not want your partner to do?

1333
01:05:33,080 --> 01:05:34,560
Speaker 2: What do you want your partner to do? What does

1334
01:05:34,640 --> 01:05:37,360
Speaker 2: love look like to you? What does spending time together?

1335
01:05:37,440 --> 01:05:39,560
Speaker 2: What does quality time look like? I think a lot

1336
01:05:39,640 --> 01:05:43,360
Speaker 2: of times this stuff only happens and comes up when

1337
01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:47,560
Speaker 2: it's a problem. But if you can have upfront conversations

1338
01:05:47,800 --> 01:05:50,200
Speaker 2: when you get into a relationship, you can kind of

1339
01:05:50,280 --> 01:05:52,400
Speaker 2: make sure that you're aligned enough to make sure those

1340
01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:53,240
Speaker 2: problems never happen.

1341
01:05:53,400 --> 01:05:55,400
Speaker 1: And a great way to do that How can I

1342
01:05:55,480 --> 01:05:57,880
Speaker 1: do this for you? What to you would feel like uncomfortable.

1343
01:05:57,920 --> 01:05:59,600
Speaker 1: How do I be the best partner I can be

1344
01:05:59,680 --> 01:06:03,000
Speaker 1: and know avoid anything that might be in a gray area.

1345
01:06:03,120 --> 01:06:05,520
Speaker 1: And then thus the conversation happened. Yeah, yeah, true, and

1346
01:06:05,560 --> 01:06:06,880
Speaker 1: it hit the swag with the boys?

1347
01:06:06,880 --> 01:06:10,280
Speaker 2: Still can I hit the swag with the boys? What

1348
01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:11,640
Speaker 2: does that mean? You know?

1349
01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:14,520
Speaker 3: We do all Tom, I just don't know what that means.

1350
01:06:14,640 --> 01:06:16,200
Speaker 2: John knows, John, what does that mean?

1351
01:06:16,840 --> 01:06:22,840
Speaker 1: Getting adventurous with the boy? John got it right?

1352
01:06:26,320 --> 01:06:33,200
Speaker 3: Okay, there's comments. ACCJ thirty says Opie was right to

1353
01:06:33,240 --> 01:06:35,439
Speaker 3: break up with their ex boyfriend. I would no longer

1354
01:06:35,520 --> 01:06:38,920
Speaker 3: trust this liar and a conventional relationship, much less in

1355
01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:42,360
Speaker 3: a dom sub relationship. Opie says, I deleted all my

1356
01:06:42,440 --> 01:06:45,560
Speaker 3: BDSM related posts because I'm sick to remember it all now.

1357
01:06:51,000 --> 01:06:53,880
Speaker 1: So OPI had a bunch of BDSM stuff on their reddit.

1358
01:06:54,560 --> 01:06:57,800
Speaker 1: That's what they said, and Opie is like, I don't

1359
01:06:57,800 --> 01:07:00,240
Speaker 1: want to think about that now. Yeah, were they doing

1360
01:07:00,360 --> 01:07:02,840
Speaker 1: BDSM with their partner was open?

1361
01:07:03,320 --> 01:07:06,800
Speaker 3: They said, I introduced my partner to this WHOA.

1362
01:07:07,400 --> 01:07:11,000
Speaker 2: That doesn't mean I don't know what that I think.

1363
01:07:11,040 --> 01:07:14,360
Speaker 1: It's like I gave you this BDS and stuff, and

1364
01:07:14,440 --> 01:07:15,920
Speaker 1: now you took it to all these people you were

1365
01:07:15,960 --> 01:07:16,600
Speaker 1: cheating on me with.

1366
01:07:16,880 --> 01:07:19,960
Speaker 2: Oh, it's like kind of like like opening up spice

1367
01:07:20,040 --> 01:07:22,880
Speaker 2: trade between Japan and Europe, and then all of a sudden,

1368
01:07:22,960 --> 01:07:25,920
Speaker 2: Japan starts trading with Spain, and you're like, like, what

1369
01:07:26,040 --> 01:07:27,680
Speaker 2: the heck? I thought we were exclusive with France?

1370
01:07:27,760 --> 01:07:32,040
Speaker 1: You know what? That was crazy.

1371
01:07:32,080 --> 01:07:36,160
Speaker 3: That's exactly what I was seeing care too much. Eight

1372
01:07:36,280 --> 01:07:39,080
Speaker 3: nine says your boyfriend is gay, which is not true.

1373
01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:43,080
Speaker 3: We don't know that. Stop assuming, just dump his butt

1374
01:07:43,160 --> 01:07:43,560
Speaker 3: and move on.

1375
01:07:44,120 --> 01:07:44,240
Speaker 6: Edit.

1376
01:07:44,600 --> 01:07:46,960
Speaker 3: I oh, actually I'm not going to read that because

1377
01:07:47,040 --> 01:07:51,560
Speaker 3: they're homophobic. Opie says he's still saying he's not. I

1378
01:07:51,720 --> 01:07:54,160
Speaker 3: know it's a lie, and I feel sorry for him

1379
01:07:54,240 --> 01:07:56,560
Speaker 3: and for whatever poor girl ends up with him. I

1380
01:07:56,680 --> 01:07:59,240
Speaker 3: blocked him on everything, and I'm trying to get my

1381
01:07:59,280 --> 01:08:02,680
Speaker 3: strength to move on. And last friend says, has he

1382
01:08:02,800 --> 01:08:05,000
Speaker 3: not even admitted to being bi? I mean, the evidence

1383
01:08:05,080 --> 01:08:08,160
Speaker 3: is there. Opie says, he said he didn't feel attracted

1384
01:08:08,240 --> 01:08:11,120
Speaker 3: to them, just liked exposing himself and men were easier.

1385
01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:14,880
Speaker 3: Women usually don't want d picks? Do I believe him?

1386
01:08:15,080 --> 01:08:18,800
Speaker 3: Not for a second? Fing liar he So.

1387
01:08:18,920 --> 01:08:21,280
Speaker 2: What he's saying is like, it's not a sexual thing

1388
01:08:21,360 --> 01:08:23,400
Speaker 2: for me. I just like an audience for my dick pics.

1389
01:08:23,479 --> 01:08:31,400
Speaker 3: Yea pistachios a BDSM didn't just fall out of a coca. Yeah,

1390
01:08:31,560 --> 01:08:34,120
Speaker 3: I didn't exist in the context of the relationship.

1391
01:08:34,800 --> 01:08:39,240
Speaker 2: Sydney Kidney says, sharing spices with other nations, spicy with

1392
01:08:39,360 --> 01:08:40,280
Speaker 2: other nations, I mean.

1393
01:08:40,760 --> 01:08:43,360
Speaker 1: Real quick, Even if you want to, even if you

1394
01:08:43,680 --> 01:08:46,360
Speaker 1: want to take that argument, it's still like, hey, you

1395
01:08:46,720 --> 01:08:50,639
Speaker 1: like doing this act is like I don't feel comfortable

1396
01:08:50,800 --> 01:08:51,600
Speaker 1: with that you like.

1397
01:08:51,720 --> 01:08:54,679
Speaker 3: Regardless of his Yeah, his sexuality, it doesn't really matter.

1398
01:08:54,800 --> 01:08:57,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, his sexual Honestly, his sexuality, I don't.

1399
01:08:57,240 --> 01:08:59,599
Speaker 3: Think yeah, the least relevant points to this story.

1400
01:08:59,640 --> 01:09:03,120
Speaker 2: Sexual Yeah, sexuality is not I don't think as important

1401
01:09:03,240 --> 01:09:04,320
Speaker 2: as the fact that.

1402
01:09:05,720 --> 01:09:08,160
Speaker 3: He was sending dudes new people.

1403
01:09:08,400 --> 01:09:11,080
Speaker 1: Lying about and lying about this and many other things

1404
01:09:11,120 --> 01:09:12,639
Speaker 1: the relationships, et cetera, et cetera.

1405
01:09:13,720 --> 01:09:18,160
Speaker 3: Reed, but there is an update. Ooh ah, buckle up,

1406
01:09:18,320 --> 01:09:20,320
Speaker 3: this is gonna be a hell of an update.

1407
01:09:21,320 --> 01:09:21,840
Speaker 1: Oh boy.

1408
01:09:22,800 --> 01:09:25,160
Speaker 3: I want to preface this by saying, I'm really glad

1409
01:09:25,280 --> 01:09:27,600
Speaker 3: so many people reached out to me. This is the

1410
01:09:27,680 --> 01:09:30,200
Speaker 3: hardest time of my life, so having this support by

1411
01:09:30,280 --> 01:09:33,640
Speaker 3: incredible people truly made a difference. Now I want to

1412
01:09:33,680 --> 01:09:36,320
Speaker 3: clarify some questions as well as telling you where my

1413
01:09:36,439 --> 01:09:39,360
Speaker 3: mind is at the moment. It's been fifty hours since

1414
01:09:39,439 --> 01:09:42,439
Speaker 3: my life changed. I know it sounds dramatic, but one

1415
01:09:42,479 --> 01:09:44,759
Speaker 3: thing I failed to say earlier is that my previous

1416
01:09:44,840 --> 01:09:48,800
Speaker 3: relationship was abusive, and the grinder Man was the one

1417
01:09:48,920 --> 01:09:51,040
Speaker 3: saying I deserve to have someone to treat me better,

1418
01:09:51,160 --> 01:09:53,120
Speaker 3: and that he couldn't believe how people wronged me in

1419
01:09:53,160 --> 01:09:53,559
Speaker 3: the past.

1420
01:09:53,840 --> 01:10:01,040
Speaker 2: Grinder Bag is the worst series here. Superheroes we deserve,

1421
01:10:01,120 --> 01:10:02,160
Speaker 2: but the people we need.

1422
01:10:02,960 --> 01:10:09,320
Speaker 3: Grinder Man. He's adventurous. He yapped on and on while

1423
01:10:09,400 --> 01:10:11,639
Speaker 3: running his fingers through my hair, that he was happy

1424
01:10:11,760 --> 01:10:14,759
Speaker 3: to help me heal and rebuild my trust in people,

1425
01:10:15,200 --> 01:10:17,439
Speaker 3: and that my suffering was over because he would do

1426
01:10:17,600 --> 01:10:20,679
Speaker 3: anything in his power to make me happy. By the way,

1427
01:10:20,840 --> 01:10:22,880
Speaker 3: I knew he was by and that didn't bother me

1428
01:10:22,960 --> 01:10:25,759
Speaker 3: one bit. I'm by as well, and I never cheated

1429
01:10:25,920 --> 01:10:29,600
Speaker 3: and never will. We were totally spicy, sleep positive. We

1430
01:10:29,720 --> 01:10:33,240
Speaker 3: welcomed Anny Kinks. Hence this account was fully BDSM related.

1431
01:10:33,280 --> 01:10:36,559
Speaker 3: Before this incident, I said multiple times we should try

1432
01:10:36,600 --> 01:10:39,479
Speaker 3: stuff with other men, which he never showed any interest,

1433
01:10:39,720 --> 01:10:44,439
Speaker 3: even if by himself. I asked him multiple times if

1434
01:10:44,479 --> 01:10:46,840
Speaker 3: he felt attraction to anyone else, and that if he did,

1435
01:10:46,960 --> 01:10:50,639
Speaker 3: it was fine as long as he told me before

1436
01:10:50,720 --> 01:10:54,719
Speaker 3: pursuing anything. He always denied wanting anyone else and wouldn't

1437
01:10:54,760 --> 01:10:58,240
Speaker 3: stop telling me how having Spicy sleep with me changed

1438
01:10:58,280 --> 01:11:01,240
Speaker 3: his life, that he never knew one person could satisfy

1439
01:11:01,360 --> 01:11:04,680
Speaker 3: him so much spicy sleepwise, and he couldn't fathom but

1440
01:11:04,960 --> 01:11:07,000
Speaker 3: being intimate with anyone else.

1441
01:11:07,439 --> 01:11:11,599
Speaker 2: Oh well, what it's like she's saying, Hey, you can

1442
01:11:11,760 --> 01:11:13,400
Speaker 2: do whatever you want, just let me know.

1443
01:11:13,800 --> 01:11:16,600
Speaker 1: He I think he gets off on that that. He's like,

1444
01:11:16,720 --> 01:11:19,439
Speaker 1: it's like even more super naughty, which is so.

1445
01:11:20,000 --> 01:11:23,519
Speaker 3: It's so ridiculous with when they say, hey.

1446
01:11:24,640 --> 01:11:28,040
Speaker 2: You can talk just like that. It's not hot. You

1447
01:11:28,080 --> 01:11:30,840
Speaker 2: don't understand. I need a cheat on you.

1448
01:11:31,040 --> 01:11:33,200
Speaker 1: To me, it's so dude. It is so bad that

1449
01:11:33,479 --> 01:11:35,120
Speaker 1: he's like, oh, I help she she's been through all

1450
01:11:35,160 --> 01:11:37,560
Speaker 1: these negative experiences. He's like, oh, like, I'm here to

1451
01:11:37,840 --> 01:11:41,479
Speaker 1: help you here he meanwhile, he's using that to it

1452
01:11:41,640 --> 01:11:46,240
Speaker 1: is freaking Ashley wrote her from Facebook says that's because

1453
01:11:46,280 --> 01:11:49,479
Speaker 1: he doesn't want permission. He likes the rush he gets

1454
01:11:49,520 --> 01:11:54,160
Speaker 1: from lying and sneaking around Yeah, he's stinky, stinky man,

1455
01:11:55,960 --> 01:11:57,000
Speaker 1: I told where he was.

1456
01:11:57,280 --> 01:12:00,040
Speaker 3: Okay, now back to everything that happened when he he

1457
01:12:00,160 --> 01:12:02,640
Speaker 3: left my house. I called his mom to know if

1458
01:12:02,640 --> 01:12:05,160
Speaker 3: he was at his place during certain dates where I

1459
01:12:05,240 --> 01:12:07,639
Speaker 3: know we weren't together. She said he barely got out

1460
01:12:07,720 --> 01:12:09,760
Speaker 3: and asked what happened for him to leave our trip

1461
01:12:09,840 --> 01:12:13,600
Speaker 3: so suddenly. I told her everything. He was heartbroken and

1462
01:12:13,760 --> 01:12:16,720
Speaker 3: said she would miss me, that she respected me even

1463
01:12:16,800 --> 01:12:19,320
Speaker 3: more given I treated him well even after all this,

1464
01:12:19,960 --> 01:12:22,000
Speaker 3: and that she wishes I find someone good for me.

1465
01:12:22,520 --> 01:12:24,720
Speaker 3: In this phone call, I got some date straight and

1466
01:12:24,840 --> 01:12:27,519
Speaker 3: I realized he hasn't been single for two to four years,

1467
01:12:27,560 --> 01:12:30,720
Speaker 3: like he mentioned, he was single for six months barely. Yeah,

1468
01:12:30,720 --> 01:12:33,880
Speaker 3: we already heard that she's a liar. Liar yep. We

1469
01:12:33,960 --> 01:12:36,840
Speaker 3: had three phone calls since he left. First one was

1470
01:12:36,880 --> 01:12:40,760
Speaker 3: a sob story, second one was him lying again. He

1471
01:12:40,840 --> 01:12:43,000
Speaker 3: said he came home. I asked if he talked to

1472
01:12:43,080 --> 01:12:45,400
Speaker 3: his parents about it, and he said they did, But

1473
01:12:45,479 --> 01:12:47,360
Speaker 3: I knew it wasn't true because I talked to his

1474
01:12:47,479 --> 01:12:50,479
Speaker 3: mom and if he discussed anything with his parents, he

1475
01:12:50,760 --> 01:12:54,320
Speaker 3: would know. I confronted him and he was defensive. I

1476
01:12:54,360 --> 01:12:56,760
Speaker 3: said I wanted him to feel the shame and embarrassment

1477
01:12:56,800 --> 01:13:00,639
Speaker 3: from the situation to learn a lesson on lying. Also,

1478
01:13:00,720 --> 01:13:02,920
Speaker 3: he said he lied about having this one experience with

1479
01:13:03,040 --> 01:13:05,160
Speaker 3: a man in twenty twenty one because he wanted to

1480
01:13:05,240 --> 01:13:08,320
Speaker 3: appear more relatable to me since I'm by too, that

1481
01:13:08,479 --> 01:13:12,160
Speaker 3: he never had spicy sleep with any men. Dude, that's weird.

1482
01:13:12,320 --> 01:13:13,160
Speaker 1: Who is this guy?

1483
01:13:13,280 --> 01:13:15,240
Speaker 3: Why is he lying about everything?

1484
01:13:16,320 --> 01:13:18,880
Speaker 2: He gets off to it, Dude, he just likes it. Yeah,

1485
01:13:19,080 --> 01:13:20,799
Speaker 2: whatever the lie is, he just wants.

1486
01:13:20,920 --> 01:13:23,639
Speaker 1: Just want about it. He loves lying, and I think

1487
01:13:23,680 --> 01:13:26,720
Speaker 1: he's preying on people who have had like traumatic experiences,

1488
01:13:26,920 --> 01:13:27,839
Speaker 1: people have lied.

1489
01:13:27,640 --> 01:13:32,679
Speaker 2: And cheated because he like it gets him even ye art.

1490
01:13:34,400 --> 01:13:41,679
Speaker 1: I'm ready. He's growing in stray. He becomes get ready

1491
01:13:41,720 --> 01:13:44,320
Speaker 1: to meet the old orange, ready to make wishy with

1492
01:13:44,400 --> 01:13:48,920
Speaker 1: all the vitamin C O.

1493
01:13:51,479 --> 01:13:54,200
Speaker 3: Last call, I asked him to at least give me

1494
01:13:54,320 --> 01:13:56,599
Speaker 3: peace of mind now that we aren't getting back together,

1495
01:13:56,960 --> 01:13:59,240
Speaker 3: and that he owes me this. He clarified the whole

1496
01:13:59,280 --> 01:14:02,519
Speaker 3: situation his ex and said he lied because he wanted

1497
01:14:02,560 --> 01:14:04,880
Speaker 3: to put this all behind him. His ex dropped out

1498
01:14:04,880 --> 01:14:08,200
Speaker 3: of college to pursue a scholarship abroad, not because of him,

1499
01:14:08,360 --> 01:14:10,800
Speaker 3: and he swears on his mother's life. He didn't cheat

1500
01:14:10,880 --> 01:14:13,719
Speaker 3: on me physically. He was just addicted to the attention

1501
01:14:13,960 --> 01:14:16,599
Speaker 3: and reassurance that the men he talked to gave to him.

1502
01:14:17,360 --> 01:14:20,160
Speaker 3: Don't worry, I will get tested either way, because given

1503
01:14:20,200 --> 01:14:23,800
Speaker 3: how busy our spicy sleep lies were, I believe any

1504
01:14:23,920 --> 01:14:26,439
Speaker 3: person on this planet would be too exhausted to pursue

1505
01:14:26,520 --> 01:14:29,880
Speaker 3: someone else physically. So I kind of believe he didn't

1506
01:14:29,880 --> 01:14:32,760
Speaker 3: have a spicy sleep with anyone, though not for sure.

1507
01:14:33,320 --> 01:14:35,280
Speaker 3: He begged me to come back and said that this

1508
01:14:35,360 --> 01:14:38,519
Speaker 3: whole situation already taught him everything and that he could

1509
01:14:38,560 --> 01:14:41,559
Speaker 3: fix this. I said, I loved him, but I couldn't

1510
01:14:41,560 --> 01:14:44,599
Speaker 3: betray myself like this. I hope he understands. The problem

1511
01:14:44,720 --> 01:14:47,760
Speaker 3: wasn't the picture I would have forgiven him if he

1512
01:14:47,880 --> 01:14:51,640
Speaker 3: told me the truth. The problem was the lies, the mistrust,

1513
01:14:52,080 --> 01:14:55,880
Speaker 3: the unnecessary secrecy. Yes, I never gave him any reason

1514
01:14:55,960 --> 01:14:58,000
Speaker 3: to be afraid to talk to me. I told him

1515
01:14:58,040 --> 01:15:01,920
Speaker 3: every single dark secret about me. He was selfish. One

1516
01:15:01,960 --> 01:15:04,000
Speaker 3: thing I know for sure is that he will regret

1517
01:15:04,120 --> 01:15:07,880
Speaker 3: this for a long time. He will remember me. He

1518
01:15:08,080 --> 01:15:11,040
Speaker 3: knows what we had was rare and beautiful. I could

1519
01:15:11,080 --> 01:15:13,919
Speaker 3: see from his desperation he was a victim of himself.

1520
01:15:14,560 --> 01:15:16,680
Speaker 3: I trust, I truly want him to heal from this

1521
01:15:16,800 --> 01:15:20,639
Speaker 3: pathological lying. I truly wish he overcomes this and doesn't

1522
01:15:20,680 --> 01:15:24,000
Speaker 3: put any other woman what he and his ex has

1523
01:15:24,080 --> 01:15:27,920
Speaker 3: been through. I wish all the liars and cheaters to

1524
01:15:28,000 --> 01:15:30,840
Speaker 3: heal and learn to learn to live in truth and love.

1525
01:15:31,120 --> 01:15:33,960
Speaker 3: That's the path I'm going for, and that's the path

1526
01:15:34,040 --> 01:15:37,760
Speaker 3: I'm seeking out at this moment. And there are a

1527
01:15:37,880 --> 01:15:43,320
Speaker 3: couple relevant comments who finish this story off? Uh should

1528
01:15:43,360 --> 01:15:48,080
Speaker 3: I read them? Beneficial? Beneficial agency says le Lore expanded,

1529
01:15:48,360 --> 01:15:51,400
Speaker 3: but seriously, good on you. I'm genuinely sorry you need

1530
01:15:51,479 --> 01:15:54,120
Speaker 3: to experience this by your writing, it seems for handling

1531
01:15:54,160 --> 01:15:57,879
Speaker 3: it so maturely. I forget you're struggling. Take care of yourself.

1532
01:15:58,240 --> 01:16:01,120
Speaker 3: You deserve it, And op says, I think I'm relieved

1533
01:16:01,120 --> 01:16:03,439
Speaker 3: I found out the thought of staying with someone like

1534
01:16:03,520 --> 01:16:07,360
Speaker 3: that without my knowledge scares me a lot without my

1535
01:16:07,520 --> 01:16:09,720
Speaker 3: not thank you. I hope you have an amazing life

1536
01:16:09,760 --> 01:16:13,600
Speaker 3: and never go through something like this. And that is

1537
01:16:14,240 --> 01:16:15,719
Speaker 3: really the only relevant comment.

1538
01:16:16,360 --> 01:16:17,360
Speaker 2: Nice and this is.

1539
01:16:17,320 --> 01:16:19,800
Speaker 3: Again to answer the question she would you ever stay

1540
01:16:19,840 --> 01:16:21,840
Speaker 3: with a long term partner after they cheat? And also

1541
01:16:21,880 --> 01:16:27,240
Speaker 3: we're live right now, so taper profile to check us out. Nah, Nah,

1542
01:16:28,320 --> 01:16:29,479
Speaker 3: I don't stay with this man.

1543
01:16:29,680 --> 01:16:30,799
Speaker 2: This guy gotta sucks.

1544
01:16:31,040 --> 01:16:35,560
Speaker 1: What if ouch, they were together for twelve years, I

1545
01:16:35,640 --> 01:16:36,360
Speaker 1: have three kids.

1546
01:16:38,240 --> 01:16:42,200
Speaker 2: Twelve years, three kids. I mean maybe they would have

1547
01:16:42,479 --> 01:16:45,519
Speaker 2: more likely of a chance to get together. But obviously

1548
01:16:45,680 --> 01:16:49,840
Speaker 2: there is no hall passes. Yeah, but there is there

1549
01:16:49,960 --> 01:16:53,360
Speaker 2: is a There are prediction tools that you can have,

1550
01:16:54,840 --> 01:16:58,960
Speaker 2: but I think this guy has has run out of passes.

1551
01:16:59,080 --> 01:17:01,479
Speaker 1: We really do need to create like like an AI

1552
01:17:01,800 --> 01:17:04,760
Speaker 1: relationship too called Sam's Golden Rules.

1553
01:17:04,800 --> 01:17:06,240
Speaker 2: And you could like just put in all of your

1554
01:17:06,280 --> 01:17:08,760
Speaker 2: relationship info and see if whether you're it becomes you,

1555
01:17:08,920 --> 01:17:10,080
Speaker 2: whether you're likely to stay together.

1556
01:17:10,160 --> 01:17:12,639
Speaker 1: It becomes like a like a like a virtual therapist,

1557
01:17:13,040 --> 01:17:15,400
Speaker 1: and then it compiles everything and it gives you like

1558
01:17:15,520 --> 01:17:17,439
Speaker 1: a like a predictive.

1559
01:17:17,520 --> 01:17:20,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I think it is a great tool,

1560
01:17:21,080 --> 01:17:26,240
Speaker 2: but a predictive too predictive. But money Reclaiming Purpose says

1561
01:17:26,280 --> 01:17:27,040
Speaker 2: still walk away.

1562
01:17:27,560 --> 01:17:28,080
Speaker 1: I agree.

1563
01:17:28,160 --> 01:17:31,160
Speaker 2: I think walk away from this situation for sure, But

1564
01:17:31,520 --> 01:17:33,439
Speaker 2: I don't think I think op, he's not even asking

1565
01:17:33,520 --> 01:17:36,120
Speaker 2: should I walk away? I think he's asking, like, how

1566
01:17:36,120 --> 01:17:38,800
Speaker 2: do I move on? I think you maybe?

1567
01:17:39,320 --> 01:17:40,360
Speaker 1: Uh you?

1568
01:17:40,720 --> 01:17:42,160
Speaker 2: I think you should do a post mortem of the

1569
01:17:42,240 --> 01:17:46,120
Speaker 2: relationship and look at all the things that are obvious

1570
01:17:46,240 --> 01:17:48,240
Speaker 2: to you now that maybe you ignored.

1571
01:17:48,680 --> 01:17:50,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, And were there any flags.

1572
01:17:50,800 --> 01:17:55,680
Speaker 2: Because I think I uh uh, I was talking to

1573
01:17:55,760 --> 01:17:57,680
Speaker 2: this girl and she was like, you know, saying that

1574
01:17:58,600 --> 01:18:02,479
Speaker 2: she went through and a abusive relationship and she went

1575
01:18:02,600 --> 01:18:07,360
Speaker 2: through years of therapy not necessarily just to like move

1576
01:18:07,520 --> 01:18:10,640
Speaker 2: through the trauma of that relationship, but also to understand

1577
01:18:11,000 --> 01:18:15,200
Speaker 2: what about herself felt like she needed to choose that relationship.

1578
01:18:15,560 --> 01:18:20,080
Speaker 2: And I think that's important to understand too, so you

1579
01:18:20,160 --> 01:18:23,360
Speaker 2: don't end up repeating a pattern that's negative where it's

1580
01:18:23,439 --> 01:18:25,240
Speaker 2: like she like, so she doesn't choose this kind of

1581
01:18:25,280 --> 01:18:27,760
Speaker 2: guy again, Let's make sure she understands why she chose

1582
01:18:27,800 --> 01:18:28,599
Speaker 2: that guy in the first place.

1583
01:18:30,120 --> 01:18:32,560
Speaker 1: Great point also shout out to like, I felt like

1584
01:18:32,680 --> 01:18:36,360
Speaker 1: OP was like so like so fair and reason was

1585
01:18:36,400 --> 01:18:38,200
Speaker 1: like even if he even if he lied, like OP

1586
01:18:38,360 --> 01:18:42,160
Speaker 1: gave him like the most grace and was Yeah. But

1587
01:18:42,400 --> 01:18:45,120
Speaker 1: also I would say, at the same time, once she

1588
01:18:45,360 --> 01:18:48,439
Speaker 1: kind of like came to the realization, stood very firmly

1589
01:18:48,960 --> 01:18:51,559
Speaker 1: in her decisions, which I think that's awesome. That's super

1590
01:18:51,720 --> 01:18:55,920
Speaker 1: super empathetic and super dedicated to make making sure that

1591
01:18:56,040 --> 01:18:58,519
Speaker 1: her own health, happiness, and boundaries were like.

1592
01:18:59,000 --> 01:19:04,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, especially because she had very like specific boundaries before.

1593
01:19:04,479 --> 01:19:06,519
Speaker 3: She was like, you can do all of this, Yes,

1594
01:19:06,840 --> 01:19:09,200
Speaker 3: as long as you let me know. I think that. Yeah,

1595
01:19:09,240 --> 01:19:13,080
Speaker 3: that's still didn't no, boy a boy a boie she.

1596
01:19:13,200 --> 01:19:14,080
Speaker 1: Was Yeah, she was just so.

1597
01:19:14,320 --> 01:19:16,080
Speaker 2: She was so ridiculously understanding.

1598
01:19:16,280 --> 01:19:17,639
Speaker 3: Yes, raise engine.

1599
01:19:17,760 --> 01:19:20,000
Speaker 2: Yet still he was found a way to violate it,

1600
01:19:20,040 --> 01:19:20,679
Speaker 2: which is crazy.

1601
01:19:21,880 --> 01:19:24,479
Speaker 3: Is it possible while you move into this next episode

1602
01:19:24,479 --> 01:19:26,000
Speaker 3: that I can eat sushi in the corner.

1603
01:19:26,360 --> 01:19:28,080
Speaker 2: You can eat sushi in the corner. Thanks, but I

1604
01:19:28,160 --> 01:19:29,840
Speaker 2: want you to eat it like a like Snegel, like

1605
01:19:29,880 --> 01:19:31,200
Speaker 2: a Gremblin punched over.

1606
01:19:31,800 --> 01:19:32,000
Speaker 1: Cool.

1607
01:19:34,160 --> 01:19:38,759
Speaker 2: But I feel like it's probably time for another story.

1608
01:19:40,640 --> 01:19:41,080
Speaker 1: Let's do it.

1609
01:19:41,600 --> 01:19:44,240
Speaker 2: But we should probably read some donos. Let's do it.

1610
01:19:45,600 --> 01:19:49,439
Speaker 1: Gabrielle more As sets uh, thanks for the three sixty three. Also,

1611
01:19:49,520 --> 01:19:52,120
Speaker 1: at some point you date out of your toxic type

1612
01:19:52,200 --> 01:19:57,160
Speaker 1: and thank your will attraction. I'm roh, can you read? Oh?

1613
01:19:57,400 --> 01:20:01,000
Speaker 2: So I think what Gabrielle is saying, what are you saying? Yeah?

1614
01:20:01,960 --> 01:20:07,360
Speaker 2: I think what Gabrielle is saying is that, like sometime

1615
01:20:07,600 --> 01:20:10,920
Speaker 2: you're like you kind of only want spicy sleep with

1616
01:20:11,040 --> 01:20:14,479
Speaker 2: your toxic type, because that's just what gets your your

1617
01:20:14,600 --> 01:20:18,759
Speaker 2: goost goone, you know. And so if you're dating someone

1618
01:20:18,840 --> 01:20:22,160
Speaker 2: that's healthier, like like the like the maybe a like

1619
01:20:22,280 --> 01:20:25,439
Speaker 2: a I want to say, nice guy, but like a

1620
01:20:25,760 --> 01:20:28,880
Speaker 2: like a person that is kind, you're like, yeah, Like,

1621
01:20:28,960 --> 01:20:31,600
Speaker 2: if you start dating A'riiley, you might not have a

1622
01:20:31,720 --> 01:20:34,360
Speaker 2: lady boner for him initially, but that lady boner will

1623
01:20:34,439 --> 01:20:37,120
Speaker 2: grow as you realize that the type of love that

1624
01:20:37,200 --> 01:20:39,840
Speaker 2: you need to receive is the Riley type of love.

1625
01:20:39,920 --> 01:20:43,240
Speaker 1: It'll become an eternal lady boner. It'll yeah, exactly, long

1626
01:20:43,360 --> 01:20:46,519
Speaker 1: term lady boner. Totally what we all want, but we

1627
01:20:46,640 --> 01:20:50,040
Speaker 1: all want out of life. So Gabriel bar said, thanks

1628
01:20:50,080 --> 01:20:52,240
Speaker 1: for the wise the wise wisdom there. I think that

1629
01:20:52,400 --> 01:20:57,479
Speaker 1: was a good uh uh little notch. Should we read

1630
01:20:57,479 --> 01:20:59,760
Speaker 1: some more. Let's do it? Did the same, do it

1631
01:21:02,840 --> 01:21:05,839
Speaker 1: Asian persuasion, Thanks for the two box joke. Was Sam's

1632
01:21:05,880 --> 01:21:09,920
Speaker 1: Day and Ope's date work Platon speaking of all right,

1633
01:21:09,960 --> 01:21:11,720
Speaker 1: we have a question for you guys. Okay, so I

1634
01:21:11,760 --> 01:21:13,760
Speaker 1: went on a date last night. I have I have

1635
01:21:14,280 --> 01:21:17,840
Speaker 1: I recently downloaded a dating app, and I have a

1636
01:21:18,000 --> 01:21:22,240
Speaker 1: date set up for every day this week, which I've

1637
01:21:22,479 --> 01:21:25,599
Speaker 1: that has never happened in my life before except Tuesday,

1638
01:21:25,600 --> 01:21:30,559
Speaker 1: because we don't make plans on Tuesday. But I went

1639
01:21:30,600 --> 01:21:33,679
Speaker 1: on I went on my first ever hinge date yesterday

1640
01:21:35,120 --> 01:21:38,840
Speaker 1: with a sprained ankle. I hobbled over to her and, Uh,

1641
01:21:39,600 --> 01:21:43,599
Speaker 1: bring your mic closer. Who's mike mine? Maybe maybe mine

1642
01:21:44,320 --> 01:21:45,240
Speaker 1: is so far down.

1643
01:21:46,720 --> 01:21:51,160
Speaker 2: But on the date, she said she wants to have

1644
01:21:51,320 --> 01:21:54,919
Speaker 2: as many children as financially and physically possible.

1645
01:21:55,600 --> 01:21:57,200
Speaker 1: Wow, so she she met.

1646
01:21:57,240 --> 01:22:00,479
Speaker 2: She threw out the number twelve and I was like,

1647
01:22:00,640 --> 01:22:03,479
Speaker 2: but if you could octomom at twelve times, would you?

1648
01:22:04,120 --> 01:22:09,240
Speaker 2: And she said like yeah, but if it's financially allowable.

1649
01:22:09,280 --> 01:22:11,200
Speaker 2: So like she said, like if she was married to

1650
01:22:11,280 --> 01:22:15,280
Speaker 2: a billionaire, she would be popping out kids until she

1651
01:22:16,040 --> 01:22:16,960
Speaker 2: could until she.

1652
01:22:17,080 --> 01:22:18,400
Speaker 1: Died an army bro.

1653
01:22:18,680 --> 01:22:21,360
Speaker 2: She she I'm like, it sounds like you want to

1654
01:22:21,680 --> 01:22:28,760
Speaker 2: burr the village and she's like, yeah that I So

1655
01:22:28,960 --> 01:22:31,240
Speaker 2: I said, dude, like do you think you could actually

1656
01:22:31,400 --> 01:22:34,960
Speaker 2: like love more than that, like like more than two kids?

1657
01:22:35,479 --> 01:22:38,799
Speaker 2: And she's like yeah, Like in what world?

1658
01:22:38,920 --> 01:22:44,840
Speaker 1: I Dudehow my girlfriend and I did have a very early,

1659
01:22:45,000 --> 01:22:47,719
Speaker 1: like casual conversation, you know when you're just like exploring

1660
01:22:47,760 --> 01:22:51,080
Speaker 1: each other of like, oh yeah, like we uh you

1661
01:22:51,160 --> 01:22:59,320
Speaker 1: know yea in the throeson no, no, in conversation each

1662
01:22:59,360 --> 01:23:02,479
Speaker 1: other's like of like, oh, like I could see my

1663
01:23:02,720 --> 01:23:04,720
Speaker 1: I've always kind of seen myself having like four or

1664
01:23:04,760 --> 01:23:07,280
Speaker 1: five kids. We both had like the same number of

1665
01:23:07,439 --> 01:23:10,880
Speaker 1: care See four or five kids feels like, you know,

1666
01:23:11,560 --> 01:23:15,320
Speaker 1: that feels manageable. I raised an army, but twelve being

1667
01:23:15,439 --> 01:23:20,880
Speaker 1: the lower limit, Yeah, the heck that's crazy going to

1668
01:23:20,960 --> 01:23:23,719
Speaker 1: topple an empire is only twelve children? Bro, that's true.

1669
01:23:24,080 --> 01:23:27,720
Speaker 1: That's dude. If all of her kids have kids. Dude,

1670
01:23:27,720 --> 01:23:30,680
Speaker 1: you got Genghis Khan right there. That's what I'm paying. Hey,

1671
01:23:30,760 --> 01:23:32,760
Speaker 1: we already have a big family. I said I would

1672
01:23:32,880 --> 01:23:34,360
Speaker 1: like my dad was one of ten. I think she

1673
01:23:34,439 --> 01:23:40,120
Speaker 1: saw that as a green flag. Anyway, good with ten?

1674
01:23:40,439 --> 01:23:40,599
Speaker 2: Huh?

1675
01:23:40,800 --> 01:23:41,360
Speaker 1: Good with ten?

1676
01:23:42,320 --> 01:23:46,320
Speaker 2: I don't think so. I think my upper limit would

1677
01:23:46,360 --> 01:23:49,960
Speaker 2: be like six or seven. Yeah, like I don't.

1678
01:23:50,040 --> 01:23:52,600
Speaker 1: I I but I but I think I think the

1679
01:23:52,680 --> 01:23:55,360
Speaker 1: two kid model is like I worked out with body

1680
01:23:55,439 --> 01:23:57,760
Speaker 1: and I so like I feel like two kids would

1681
01:23:57,840 --> 01:24:00,759
Speaker 1: would be We're like two kids would ten years another

1682
01:24:00,800 --> 01:24:03,799
Speaker 1: two kids at Riley Bottle.

1683
01:24:05,479 --> 01:24:07,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, anyway, Riley, could you do a poll. Is that

1684
01:24:07,520 --> 01:24:09,479
Speaker 2: a red flag or not? Should I go on date two?

1685
01:24:10,320 --> 01:24:10,519
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1686
01:24:11,320 --> 01:24:14,240
Speaker 2: Besides that, it was actually pretty fun Like honestly, even

1687
01:24:14,280 --> 01:24:19,479
Speaker 2: with that, I thought it was funny. It was like, what, yeah,

1688
01:24:19,560 --> 01:24:22,519
Speaker 2: it was. It was honestly, it was fun She kind

1689
01:24:22,600 --> 01:24:24,680
Speaker 2: of asked me like, oh, like, hit me up if

1690
01:24:24,720 --> 01:24:25,680
Speaker 2: you want to go on a second date?

1691
01:24:26,200 --> 01:24:29,280
Speaker 1: Do we let chat control? Yeah, chat control my dating life?

1692
01:24:30,000 --> 01:24:31,920
Speaker 1: Chat swipe on my head. I got.

1693
01:24:36,560 --> 01:24:37,200
Speaker 2: That's so funny.

1694
01:24:37,400 --> 01:24:37,680
Speaker 5: She is.

1695
01:24:37,840 --> 01:24:39,240
Speaker 2: She was really nice. She was cool.

1696
01:24:40,520 --> 01:24:42,479
Speaker 1: But also shout out to the cole and for the

1697
01:24:42,520 --> 01:24:44,960
Speaker 1: five bucks on Diurnalink. Hey fam, I watch you guys

1698
01:24:45,400 --> 01:24:47,599
Speaker 1: as I do my skin courting care before bed.

1699
01:24:47,680 --> 01:24:47,960
Speaker 2: Ps.

1700
01:24:48,280 --> 01:24:53,280
Speaker 1: John, you're my fave orange Legion rise my oranges lit

1701
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Speaker 1: the Vitamin C course take over, Matt Hadergal thanks out

1702
01:24:57,920 --> 01:24:59,800
Speaker 1: of ten bucks. Wanted to let you know that the

1703
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:02,400
Speaker 1: i'd have sent you something since you on the same city,

1704
01:25:02,680 --> 01:25:04,439
Speaker 1: you would get as sooner than you think. I would

1705
01:25:04,479 --> 01:25:06,320
Speaker 1: be hon it if you guys open it on stream.

1706
01:25:07,680 --> 01:25:09,920
Speaker 1: I went to we went to the po box and

1707
01:25:10,160 --> 01:25:12,719
Speaker 1: we have a few packages. We have a few packages.

1708
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Speaker 1: So hey guys, when you get guys, look look at

1709
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Speaker 1: this number. You can you can raise this little number

1710
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1711
01:25:22,479 --> 01:25:24,200
Speaker 1: we could open a package, if we spend that wheel,

1712
01:25:24,200 --> 01:25:27,320
Speaker 1: we could literally do it. So just come on, come on,

1713
01:25:28,520 --> 01:25:30,160
Speaker 1: and what's the next one up? Or is that are

1714
01:25:30,200 --> 01:25:33,760
Speaker 1: we cut up? Baby? Shout out to save me again

1715
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1716
01:25:39,360 --> 01:25:45,760
Speaker 1: the the rookie MVP of this stream, twenty gifted donations memberships.

1717
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1718
01:25:49,160 --> 01:25:52,639
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1720
01:25:57,000 --> 01:25:59,240
Speaker 1: my mega, my old orange sax out of five bucks.

1721
01:25:59,400 --> 01:26:01,479
Speaker 1: Literally just clicks on video. First thing I hear is

1722
01:26:01,840 --> 01:26:05,679
Speaker 1: I deleted all my beds and related posts. Y'all, y'all

1723
01:26:05,720 --> 01:26:07,320
Speaker 1: know what y'all know what time it is on this show?

1724
01:26:08,720 --> 01:26:11,320
Speaker 1: Uh tiaka thanks for the five bucks. So I say

1725
01:26:11,360 --> 01:26:13,840
Speaker 1: that right, Uh, I'm at the age where I can

1726
01:26:13,960 --> 01:26:17,639
Speaker 1: take father or the son. So what's up? Sam?

1727
01:26:18,200 --> 01:26:18,760
Speaker 2: God what.

1728
01:26:20,800 --> 01:26:22,479
Speaker 1: She said? She's at the age where she can go

1729
01:26:22,640 --> 01:26:24,800
Speaker 1: father or son. She's at right right in the middle,

1730
01:26:24,920 --> 01:26:28,160
Speaker 1: right in the middle. Uh JK. Unless you come to Canada. Okay,

1731
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Speaker 1: JK insert Google grow here. Yeah, we're saying does it best?

1732
01:26:33,000 --> 01:26:36,720
Speaker 1: And thanks for Kay celebrating three months on membership. You

1733
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Speaker 1: can see a familiar vibe and mistake it for good guy,

1734
01:26:40,439 --> 01:26:42,160
Speaker 1: make it uh makes it hard to go on a

1735
01:26:42,240 --> 01:26:44,439
Speaker 1: dates with a different type of person. There you go,

1736
01:26:44,560 --> 01:26:46,360
Speaker 1: elite technician, thanks her to five bucks on the do

1737
01:26:46,479 --> 01:26:49,040
Speaker 1: on link. Every time y'all were saying adventure, I kept

1738
01:26:49,120 --> 01:26:51,960
Speaker 1: thinking of reading Rainbow song.

1739
01:26:52,360 --> 01:26:54,439
Speaker 2: You know John loves that song.

1740
01:26:54,640 --> 01:26:58,040
Speaker 1: Yeah. I was contemplating kind of jingle for us along

1741
01:26:58,080 --> 01:26:58,759
Speaker 1: those lines.

1742
01:26:59,000 --> 01:27:00,479
Speaker 2: How does it? How does it read Rainbow?

1743
01:27:01,680 --> 01:27:06,200
Speaker 1: Take a look. It's in a book reading Rainbow and

1744
01:27:06,439 --> 01:27:08,479
Speaker 1: I think I was like, take a seat, can read

1745
01:27:08,560 --> 01:27:13,880
Speaker 1: with me? Okay, story time, that's my version. Elaine, the

1746
01:27:14,720 --> 01:27:18,360
Speaker 1: main pain says, fakes me to two bucks. Sam, it's

1747
01:27:18,400 --> 01:27:21,160
Speaker 1: okay to be picky heart hinge horri fye.

1748
01:27:21,280 --> 01:27:26,560
Speaker 2: I I feel like I am being picky Kidney. I

1749
01:27:26,760 --> 01:27:30,880
Speaker 2: was being I I I yeah, yeah, I'm on my wife.

1750
01:27:31,080 --> 01:27:31,719
Speaker 2: I'm on my wife.

1751
01:27:33,120 --> 01:27:33,800
Speaker 3: Picky person.

1752
01:27:34,960 --> 01:27:40,240
Speaker 2: So if he is way pickier than I am, yeah,

1753
01:27:40,320 --> 01:27:41,680
Speaker 2: worked out, we're boom.

1754
01:27:42,040 --> 01:27:44,519
Speaker 1: And for ninety six out of five bucks. Why do

1755
01:27:44,640 --> 01:27:47,080
Speaker 1: swiping for Sam? Sing sound like so much more fun

1756
01:27:47,200 --> 01:27:48,680
Speaker 1: than doing it for myself.

1757
01:27:48,960 --> 01:27:53,120
Speaker 3: I was doing it for Sam and he was like, wait, no, stop.

1758
01:27:54,560 --> 01:27:56,760
Speaker 2: He was like, no, you weren't swiping. You were going

1759
01:27:56,800 --> 01:27:58,280
Speaker 2: through my my life's.

1760
01:27:58,280 --> 01:28:00,360
Speaker 3: I didn't realize that. I did think I was wiping.

1761
01:28:01,240 --> 01:28:04,479
Speaker 3: I don't I stand by my I said what I said,

1762
01:28:04,680 --> 01:28:07,240
Speaker 3: I think there are profiles were boring. Then I stayed by.

1763
01:28:07,280 --> 01:28:11,000
Speaker 2: I said, John, I want to I want to show

1764
01:28:11,000 --> 01:28:12,640
Speaker 2: you one from yesterday. Let's see it.

1765
01:28:13,120 --> 01:28:17,559
Speaker 1: And Josephine Madala burg quest two three, Sam, what's your

1766
01:28:17,560 --> 01:28:20,760
Speaker 1: shoe size? Josephine. Josephine, you know we love you, but

1767
01:28:21,520 --> 01:28:28,479
Speaker 1: it's thirteen. There you go, there you go, Josephine. Okay,

1768
01:28:30,400 --> 01:28:32,679
Speaker 1: did I read this? It would be in my mind?

1769
01:28:34,400 --> 01:28:36,080
Speaker 1: Are you trying to tell me you're a red flag

1770
01:28:36,120 --> 01:28:39,280
Speaker 1: with your first with your red first photo? H shush,

1771
01:28:39,360 --> 01:28:40,920
Speaker 1: don't read too much into that. What if it was

1772
01:28:41,400 --> 01:28:43,400
Speaker 1: still might be fun to explore, but only if you're

1773
01:28:43,400 --> 01:28:45,880
Speaker 1: a fun red flag? What constitute a fun red flag?

1774
01:28:46,360 --> 01:28:50,200
Speaker 1: Text me your dankest, darkest memes asap. And then she

1775
01:28:50,280 --> 01:28:53,400
Speaker 1: sent me, wait, look at the memes? She said, is

1776
01:28:53,479 --> 01:28:58,000
Speaker 1: it recently? Yeah, it's it's that name and last name. Yes, hinge,

1777
01:29:00,760 --> 01:29:01,160
Speaker 1: do do do?

1778
01:29:02,920 --> 01:29:04,880
Speaker 3: I still think I gave you the funniest response for

1779
01:29:04,960 --> 01:29:05,280
Speaker 3: that one.

1780
01:29:12,200 --> 01:29:15,599
Speaker 1: A bunch of It's Adam Sandler and friends jumping out

1781
01:29:15,640 --> 01:29:17,559
Speaker 1: of the twin towers and.

1782
01:29:17,640 --> 01:29:20,559
Speaker 2: She said it eleven eleven. Wow.

1783
01:29:23,000 --> 01:29:27,000
Speaker 1: Wow, dude, God bless God, God blessed Sam's new dating life.

1784
01:29:27,120 --> 01:29:30,559
Speaker 1: Just filling us with so much incredible cod wealth wealth,

1785
01:29:30,680 --> 01:29:35,720
Speaker 1: oh wealth. Yeah. Oh well but you know, uh, you

1786
01:29:35,800 --> 01:29:41,320
Speaker 1: know what chat did well. They liked the stream. Okay, guys,

1787
01:29:41,960 --> 01:29:43,840
Speaker 1: we did it. We're at five sixteen, and you know

1788
01:29:43,920 --> 01:29:53,280
Speaker 1: what that means. We're gonna say that we are through package.

1789
01:29:54,520 --> 01:29:58,160
Speaker 3: Oh an extra minus your package.

1790
01:29:58,160 --> 01:30:00,760
Speaker 1: Anyway, We've got a letter. You can do a letter.

1791
01:30:00,960 --> 01:30:03,040
Speaker 3: Oh, the letter is in my room. Another letter.

1792
01:30:03,160 --> 01:30:06,400
Speaker 1: We have another letters in here. Yeah, let's pick one.

1793
01:30:08,360 --> 01:30:17,599
Speaker 1: Oh oh, oh my gosh. That was cool stamping.

1794
01:30:17,720 --> 01:30:22,320
Speaker 3: Okay, cool.

1795
01:30:23,680 --> 01:30:26,360
Speaker 1: You guys did such a good job with your heaf. Indeed,

1796
01:30:27,479 --> 01:30:28,200
Speaker 1: here I think this.

1797
01:30:30,400 --> 01:30:34,160
Speaker 2: Happy birthday to you cut.

1798
01:30:36,840 --> 01:30:41,160
Speaker 1: I'm running out of okay themed cards, but this one

1799
01:30:41,280 --> 01:30:44,639
Speaker 1: is a test of your reading comprehension there and I passed.

1800
01:30:44,880 --> 01:30:48,000
Speaker 1: Happy birthday, John. We love what you do and hope

1801
01:30:48,000 --> 01:30:52,120
Speaker 1: you have an amazing day. Belton plus, thank you.

1802
01:30:53,840 --> 01:30:54,719
Speaker 3: Set me a birthday.

1803
01:30:55,240 --> 01:30:57,519
Speaker 1: Oh look, blizzard on it and that way. We just

1804
01:30:57,560 --> 01:31:00,400
Speaker 1: read it. Belton, let's go thank you for your love.

1805
01:31:00,600 --> 01:31:00,880
Speaker 2: Stream.

1806
01:31:01,720 --> 01:31:04,800
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I belt this in the stream. Just just

1807
01:31:04,840 --> 01:31:07,320
Speaker 1: said I sent you a letter and we just read it.

1808
01:31:08,120 --> 01:31:10,880
Speaker 1: What a beautiful thing. God, ladies and gentlemen. We got

1809
01:31:10,920 --> 01:31:13,400
Speaker 1: ten more minutes. We got ten more minutes of our

1810
01:31:13,479 --> 01:31:16,479
Speaker 1: sweet sweet face time. Guys, there we go. You know what,

1811
01:31:17,280 --> 01:31:18,519
Speaker 1: Let's put those minutes to use.

1812
01:31:20,080 --> 01:31:21,040
Speaker 2: How are we going to do that? Right?

1813
01:31:21,720 --> 01:31:24,080
Speaker 1: By reading these stories? We're going to read another story.

1814
01:31:24,360 --> 01:31:24,840
Speaker 1: Who's next?

1815
01:31:24,920 --> 01:31:25,120
Speaker 2: John?

1816
01:31:25,160 --> 01:31:26,040
Speaker 1: This is you? This is me?

1817
01:31:26,760 --> 01:31:27,479
Speaker 2: I read the first one?

1818
01:31:28,680 --> 01:31:34,800
Speaker 1: Last fifty one city s one? Yes, wait, should we

1819
01:31:34,880 --> 01:31:37,080
Speaker 1: put a new wheel spangle? We'll open on the package.

1820
01:31:37,120 --> 01:31:38,840
Speaker 1: Let's say six hundred to make it easy for him,

1821
01:31:38,920 --> 01:31:39,519
Speaker 1: six hundred.

1822
01:31:39,680 --> 01:31:42,559
Speaker 2: See, guys, you can't say we never do anything good

1823
01:31:42,600 --> 01:31:47,240
Speaker 2: for you. Okay, six hundred, you can do it.

1824
01:31:47,800 --> 01:31:51,160
Speaker 3: Do it easily, you could do it sixty away.

1825
01:31:51,560 --> 01:31:52,080
Speaker 1: My goodness.

1826
01:31:53,080 --> 01:31:55,080
Speaker 2: Wait, no, do six okay, and you know what, that'll

1827
01:31:55,120 --> 01:31:56,080
Speaker 2: make it easy. Six hundred.

1828
01:31:57,560 --> 01:32:00,760
Speaker 1: Here we go, let's do it. My parents said I

1829
01:32:00,880 --> 01:32:03,160
Speaker 1: had to take care of my siblings. I refused and

1830
01:32:03,360 --> 01:32:06,320
Speaker 1: said that they should have thought twice before having more kids.

1831
01:32:06,560 --> 01:32:09,559
Speaker 1: That is so timely. Don't have that many kids if

1832
01:32:09,600 --> 01:32:12,280
Speaker 1: you can't take care of them. Go from this to this,

1833
01:32:13,160 --> 01:32:16,439
Speaker 1: Oh okay, stop it, don't let that baby through. And

1834
01:32:16,600 --> 01:32:18,080
Speaker 1: this is all to answer the question how do you

1835
01:32:18,120 --> 01:32:20,200
Speaker 1: stand up for your parents? And it comes from specific

1836
01:32:20,280 --> 01:32:23,960
Speaker 1: ad to your parents, thank you so yeah, and this

1837
01:32:24,120 --> 01:32:26,560
Speaker 1: GIRs from specific AD ninety nine to forty five. He says. So,

1838
01:32:26,720 --> 01:32:30,240
Speaker 1: I fifteen male, fifteen females. Sorry, I am the oldest

1839
01:32:30,280 --> 01:32:32,720
Speaker 1: of four kids. My siblings are ten, seven and four.

1840
01:32:33,320 --> 01:32:35,599
Speaker 1: Run in the gamut. My parents both work full time,

1841
01:32:35,680 --> 01:32:38,120
Speaker 1: and since my mom got promoted last year, she works

1842
01:32:38,320 --> 01:32:40,640
Speaker 1: longer hours. Now. This means that a lot of the

1843
01:32:40,760 --> 01:32:44,519
Speaker 1: household responsibilities and taking care of all my siblings balls

1844
01:32:44,600 --> 01:32:48,120
Speaker 1: on me. After school and on weekends, I get my

1845
01:32:48,160 --> 01:32:50,800
Speaker 1: siblings from school, help with their homework, cook dinner, and

1846
01:32:50,960 --> 01:32:53,479
Speaker 1: sometimes put them to bed if my parents are late.

1847
01:32:53,720 --> 01:32:56,680
Speaker 3: That is too much responsibility that not be putting on

1848
01:32:56,720 --> 01:32:58,439
Speaker 3: a fifteen who has their own schooling.

1849
01:32:59,000 --> 01:33:01,439
Speaker 1: Yes, but I feel like that that's generally what happens

1850
01:33:01,520 --> 01:33:05,520
Speaker 1: in bigger families. Yeah, I think raised everyone.

1851
01:33:05,240 --> 01:33:08,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, which I think is like not we shouldn't be

1852
01:33:08,320 --> 01:33:08,720
Speaker 3: doing that.

1853
01:33:08,960 --> 01:33:11,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you have twelve plus children and raise an army,

1854
01:33:11,880 --> 01:33:15,960
Speaker 1: there needs to be a general senior hierarchy. I'm just

1855
01:33:16,000 --> 01:33:18,840
Speaker 1: putting that out there. I don't mind helping out, but

1856
01:33:18,880 --> 01:33:20,680
Speaker 1: it's gotten to the point where I barely have any

1857
01:33:20,760 --> 01:33:23,200
Speaker 1: time for myself or my friends. I'm also starting high

1858
01:33:23,200 --> 01:33:24,920
Speaker 1: school this year, and I have a lot of homework

1859
01:33:24,960 --> 01:33:27,040
Speaker 1: in extracurriculars that I need to focus on.

1860
01:33:27,200 --> 01:33:29,280
Speaker 2: Should have thought about that before you were born? First?

1861
01:33:29,439 --> 01:33:31,120
Speaker 1: Yeah? Just raised three more kids.

1862
01:33:31,240 --> 01:33:31,400
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1863
01:33:32,360 --> 01:33:35,240
Speaker 2: I know they're not your kids, but they're practice kids.

1864
01:33:35,280 --> 01:33:37,120
Speaker 2: You'll be so good at raising kids. By the time

1865
01:33:37,200 --> 01:33:38,240
Speaker 2: you're raising kids.

1866
01:33:38,200 --> 01:33:40,879
Speaker 1: You'll sit, you'll you'll with all of your knowledge and experience,

1867
01:33:40,920 --> 01:33:42,880
Speaker 1: You'll use all that you'll save the time back.

1868
01:33:43,200 --> 01:33:47,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, you'll honestly be living longer thanks to us.

1869
01:33:48,000 --> 01:33:51,360
Speaker 3: I think if you can't parent your kids, then you

1870
01:33:51,479 --> 01:33:52,240
Speaker 3: gotta stop.

1871
01:33:52,600 --> 01:33:54,640
Speaker 2: Can't bear your kids, get a kid to parent it

1872
01:33:54,760 --> 01:33:58,240
Speaker 2: for you. That's what I always said, Delegate, Yeah, delegate

1873
01:33:58,320 --> 01:34:00,800
Speaker 2: to children. Last week and I had plans to go

1874
01:34:00,880 --> 01:34:02,960
Speaker 2: to my friend's birthday party. I told my parents about

1875
01:34:02,960 --> 01:34:04,840
Speaker 2: it weeks in advance and they said it was fine.

1876
01:34:05,160 --> 01:34:07,720
Speaker 2: But the night before the party, my mom told me

1877
01:34:07,840 --> 01:34:09,640
Speaker 2: that she has to work late on Saturday and that

1878
01:34:09,760 --> 01:34:12,360
Speaker 2: I needed to watch my siblings. I was really upset

1879
01:34:12,400 --> 01:34:14,280
Speaker 2: and told her I had plans, but she said that

1880
01:34:14,360 --> 01:34:17,400
Speaker 2: family comes first and that I should be responsible. I

1881
01:34:17,560 --> 01:34:19,880
Speaker 2: ended up missing the party, and I'm really angry about it.

1882
01:34:20,120 --> 01:34:22,360
Speaker 2: Later that night, when my parents got home, I told

1883
01:34:22,400 --> 01:34:24,479
Speaker 2: them that they should have thought twice before having more

1884
01:34:24,560 --> 01:34:27,639
Speaker 2: kids if they can't handle taking care of them without

1885
01:34:27,720 --> 01:34:30,639
Speaker 2: relying on me all the time. My dad got really

1886
01:34:30,680 --> 01:34:32,960
Speaker 2: mad and said I was being disrespectful and selfish.

1887
01:34:33,280 --> 01:34:35,360
Speaker 1: My mom looked hurt and told me I don't understand

1888
01:34:35,400 --> 01:34:37,080
Speaker 1: how hard it is to balance work in family.

1889
01:34:37,479 --> 01:34:37,599
Speaker 2: Now.

1890
01:34:37,680 --> 01:34:39,519
Speaker 1: Things are really tense at home, and I feel guilty

1891
01:34:39,560 --> 01:34:41,360
Speaker 1: for what I said. I know my parents are doing

1892
01:34:41,400 --> 01:34:43,240
Speaker 1: their best, but I also feel like I'm missing out

1893
01:34:43,280 --> 01:34:45,960
Speaker 1: on my own life because of the responsibilities I have.

1894
01:34:46,600 --> 01:34:48,920
Speaker 1: Am I the a whole for saying what I said?

1895
01:34:49,240 --> 01:34:53,040
Speaker 1: We've got relevant comments, we've got an update. Well let's

1896
01:34:53,040 --> 01:34:55,960
Speaker 1: take a quick break. Yeah, this'll be the a hole

1897
01:34:56,000 --> 01:34:58,000
Speaker 1: force saying that to the parents you should have had.

1898
01:34:58,360 --> 01:35:00,120
Speaker 2: I don't care, No, I mean I don't think so

1899
01:35:00,479 --> 01:35:04,000
Speaker 2: He's like, I feel like he's almost voicing his perspective

1900
01:35:04,600 --> 01:35:05,280
Speaker 2: very clearly.

1901
01:35:05,439 --> 01:35:09,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, like yeah, kind of kind of saying, you know

1902
01:35:09,920 --> 01:35:14,320
Speaker 1: you're putting all this response. Ultimately, there's a general contract

1903
01:35:14,800 --> 01:35:18,120
Speaker 1: the parents take care of the kids, right, So it's like, I.

1904
01:35:18,120 --> 01:35:20,640
Speaker 3: Don't think it's an issue to necessarily sometimes have like

1905
01:35:20,920 --> 01:35:23,600
Speaker 3: an older kid babysit from time to time. But this

1906
01:35:23,800 --> 01:35:24,320
Speaker 3: is beyond that.

1907
01:35:24,600 --> 01:35:29,600
Speaker 1: So question when is it an issue when it infringes

1908
01:35:29,880 --> 01:35:34,040
Speaker 1: upon the life that the kid once instead of once

1909
01:35:34,080 --> 01:35:35,560
Speaker 1: in an extent because I had to, I mean like

1910
01:35:35,720 --> 01:35:37,480
Speaker 1: I baby sat Sophia.

1911
01:35:37,680 --> 01:35:40,000
Speaker 3: But was that from time to time?

1912
01:35:40,160 --> 01:35:40,360
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1913
01:35:40,479 --> 01:35:41,360
Speaker 1: Was that in like amaze?

1914
01:35:41,400 --> 01:35:42,400
Speaker 2: It wasn't expectation.

1915
01:35:43,680 --> 01:35:46,400
Speaker 1: But you know, just same, you know, who just gave

1916
01:35:46,640 --> 01:35:53,360
Speaker 1: birth to fifty children that could all watch Enter Twined

1917
01:35:54,040 --> 01:35:58,800
Speaker 1: Roups guys, we said, uh rookie MVP of this of

1918
01:35:58,880 --> 01:36:04,519
Speaker 1: the stream wide realms, Intertwine Realms is the crown for

1919
01:36:04,600 --> 01:36:10,840
Speaker 1: all time. Yeah, fifty gifted memberships fifty Let me say

1920
01:36:10,880 --> 01:36:13,720
Speaker 1: the gang, guys, fifty gifted membership, and.

1921
01:36:13,760 --> 01:36:16,200
Speaker 3: Let me say that third half fifty gifted membership.

1922
01:36:16,280 --> 01:36:18,719
Speaker 2: Can I say it the fourth time? Fifty gifted membership?

1923
01:36:18,800 --> 01:36:22,519
Speaker 1: It deserves it because that not only grows the family

1924
01:36:22,760 --> 01:36:26,360
Speaker 1: by fifty. Now we're almost at another thirty minutes because

1925
01:36:27,000 --> 01:36:30,280
Speaker 1: oh boy, we hit thirty because of intertwined realms guys,

1926
01:36:30,400 --> 01:36:33,080
Speaker 1: so we almost are going to hit another thirty minutes

1927
01:36:33,160 --> 01:36:37,000
Speaker 1: on top of that because of intertwined walms guys.

1928
01:36:37,960 --> 01:36:38,400
Speaker 3: Gorgeous.

1929
01:36:39,800 --> 01:36:42,680
Speaker 1: Let's let's start brainstorming. What are some titles. Oh, let's

1930
01:36:42,720 --> 01:36:46,360
Speaker 1: start brainstorming them. I mean it could be Ruler of Realms,

1931
01:36:46,560 --> 01:36:49,559
Speaker 1: rule of Realm, Ruler of Realms, Ruler of Realm. I'm

1932
01:36:49,600 --> 01:36:51,240
Speaker 1: kind of messing with that, kind of messing with that.

1933
01:36:51,400 --> 01:36:53,479
Speaker 1: Let us know what you think Ruler of Intertwined Realms

1934
01:36:53,520 --> 01:36:56,479
Speaker 1: should be called? Ruler of Realms feels very and what

1935
01:36:56,600 --> 01:37:01,040
Speaker 1: emojis to drop in the check again? Alexy emoji star,

1936
01:37:03,040 --> 01:37:07,880
Speaker 1: we're clicking today, alex Emoji said, let's for now, that's

1937
01:37:07,960 --> 01:37:11,400
Speaker 1: the that's the interim. Interim Emoji throw those galaxies to

1938
01:37:11,439 --> 01:37:13,920
Speaker 1: the chat. But we're going to get into this next

1939
01:37:14,000 --> 01:37:17,640
Speaker 1: relevant comment. So East Platypus twenty four ninety says, not

1940
01:37:17,760 --> 01:37:20,520
Speaker 1: the ahole. I'm also guessing you don't get paid for babysitting,

1941
01:37:20,760 --> 01:37:23,479
Speaker 1: Opie says, no, I get nothing, just to thank you

1942
01:37:23,560 --> 01:37:25,720
Speaker 1: for my mom, although sometimes she does buy me ice

1943
01:37:25,800 --> 01:37:30,000
Speaker 1: cream which I have to share. Yeah, all right, guys,

1944
01:37:30,080 --> 01:37:33,360
Speaker 1: let's all lick one goat yeah, or it's like all right,

1945
01:37:33,439 --> 01:37:36,200
Speaker 1: we're sharing and then the mom just goes, oh yeah

1946
01:37:37,040 --> 01:37:40,960
Speaker 1: that's ice cream. I eat it up. Yeah, you'll understand

1947
01:37:41,000 --> 01:37:43,600
Speaker 1: one day when you have an army of children yourself.

1948
01:37:43,479 --> 01:37:45,720
Speaker 2: It's called taxes. That's what the government does to you.

1949
01:37:46,080 --> 01:37:46,720
Speaker 2: Learn Son.

1950
01:37:47,800 --> 01:37:52,160
Speaker 3: Also til House Good Oil Boy, O.

1951
01:37:52,280 --> 01:37:56,879
Speaker 1: Boy twenty fifty memberships another thirty minutes.

1952
01:37:57,320 --> 01:38:00,479
Speaker 2: Also just so y'all know the new people. If you

1953
01:38:00,720 --> 01:38:02,720
Speaker 2: are on YouTube, you have a chance to get a

1954
01:38:02,760 --> 01:38:05,839
Speaker 2: gifted membership. And if you're on YouTube and you interact

1955
01:38:05,880 --> 01:38:08,519
Speaker 2: with the stream like you're chatting, you're saying stuff, you

1956
01:38:08,680 --> 01:38:11,280
Speaker 2: will get a gifted membership because YouTube like, oh, who's

1957
01:38:11,400 --> 01:38:14,600
Speaker 2: like the most worthy of a membership is in the

1958
01:38:15,080 --> 01:38:17,080
Speaker 2: in the chat who's the hottie with the body? And

1959
01:38:17,160 --> 01:38:20,120
Speaker 2: the chat could be you Goold be You So head

1960
01:38:20,160 --> 01:38:22,479
Speaker 2: on over to YouTube and maybe maybe chitty chat a

1961
01:38:22,520 --> 01:38:22,840
Speaker 2: little bit.

1962
01:38:23,240 --> 01:38:24,719
Speaker 1: It's YouTube looking for new people.

1963
01:38:24,920 --> 01:38:26,519
Speaker 2: It's constantly they they're like.

1964
01:38:26,560 --> 01:38:28,800
Speaker 1: Please, who can we give these memberships to you?

1965
01:38:29,360 --> 01:38:30,080
Speaker 3: You can?

1966
01:38:30,360 --> 01:38:30,599
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1967
01:38:33,280 --> 01:38:35,760
Speaker 1: Old Beach twenty two thirty five says not the a whole.

1968
01:38:35,840 --> 01:38:37,920
Speaker 1: I'm in my forties and had a similar upbringing to

1969
01:38:38,000 --> 01:38:39,920
Speaker 1: what you're dealing with. I would have laughed. If my

1970
01:38:40,000 --> 01:38:41,880
Speaker 1: parents had told me to be responsible and missed my

1971
01:38:41,920 --> 01:38:45,280
Speaker 1: friend's party, I probably would have said something like responsible

1972
01:38:45,600 --> 01:38:48,320
Speaker 1: like having kids and not taking care of them yourself.

1973
01:38:48,520 --> 01:38:52,639
Speaker 1: Right O, God, I want to comeback, but I've also

1974
01:38:52,760 --> 01:38:55,320
Speaker 1: been no contact with my parents and siblings for years now.

1975
01:38:55,640 --> 01:38:58,760
Speaker 1: Your parents will probably keep using you until you make

1976
01:38:58,800 --> 01:39:01,639
Speaker 1: it impossible to do so. I suggest getting a job

1977
01:39:01,680 --> 01:39:03,680
Speaker 1: as soon as you can and telling them to make

1978
01:39:03,760 --> 01:39:07,639
Speaker 1: other arrangements. Move out when you can, set boundaries them.

1979
01:39:08,200 --> 01:39:08,439
Speaker 2: Op.

1980
01:39:08,680 --> 01:39:11,680
Speaker 1: Thank you for your advice. And I don't know if

1981
01:39:11,680 --> 01:39:14,160
Speaker 1: i'll find a job because I'm fifteen and where I

1982
01:39:14,280 --> 01:39:16,080
Speaker 1: live you need to be at least sixteen to be

1983
01:39:16,160 --> 01:39:20,400
Speaker 1: able to work. Just lie conspiracy theory. Conspiracy theory. Ope,

1984
01:39:20,400 --> 01:39:23,759
Speaker 1: get the job and he's like, Okay, that's so awesome

1985
01:39:23,840 --> 01:39:25,840
Speaker 1: that you have a job. Now you can provide for

1986
01:39:25,920 --> 01:39:29,080
Speaker 1: the family. Your use your money to get a babysitter.

1987
01:39:29,160 --> 01:39:32,760
Speaker 1: You're right, Oh, and it would just be like all

1988
01:39:32,800 --> 01:39:35,120
Speaker 1: of their money just one hundred percent funneling back to

1989
01:39:35,200 --> 01:39:37,640
Speaker 1: the babysitter. And then they'd be like they sit down

1990
01:39:37,640 --> 01:39:39,960
Speaker 1: and be like, hey, op, so we just ran over

1991
01:39:40,040 --> 01:39:43,720
Speaker 1: the books. You are in debt to the babysitter, like

1992
01:39:43,800 --> 01:39:47,200
Speaker 1: a few thousand bucks. So we're just gonna get a

1993
01:39:47,240 --> 01:39:50,000
Speaker 1: little line of credit under your name. Don't worry. You

1994
01:39:50,040 --> 01:39:52,280
Speaker 1: will just love to never. You will lump it with

1995
01:39:52,280 --> 01:39:52,800
Speaker 1: your student loans.

1996
01:39:52,840 --> 01:39:55,920
Speaker 2: You won't even notice. Twenty percent interest, twenty percent, It's okay.

1997
01:39:55,960 --> 01:39:56,400
Speaker 1: Twenty minute.

1998
01:39:56,400 --> 01:39:57,800
Speaker 3: They're like, we actually need you to pray for your

1999
01:39:57,920 --> 01:40:01,400
Speaker 3: siblings college fun now like all three of them.

2000
01:40:01,439 --> 01:40:05,160
Speaker 2: You know, I still so I still want to know,

2001
01:40:05,400 --> 01:40:09,320
Speaker 2: like what you we we defined ask like like what

2002
01:40:09,520 --> 01:40:11,920
Speaker 2: is too much to ask of your kids? And you

2003
01:40:12,200 --> 01:40:15,599
Speaker 2: you said what it is when it impedes on their

2004
01:40:15,760 --> 01:40:20,120
Speaker 2: life in some way. So like our parents like forced

2005
01:40:20,200 --> 01:40:22,400
Speaker 2: us to do piano and like swimming.

2006
01:40:22,520 --> 01:40:23,519
Speaker 3: I don't know, I liked piano.

2007
01:40:23,840 --> 01:40:26,640
Speaker 2: Now you didn't always like piano, but when I.

2008
01:40:26,640 --> 01:40:29,240
Speaker 3: Knew, I did. Yeah, but like but like I also

2009
01:40:29,600 --> 01:40:30,439
Speaker 3: I hated swimming.

2010
01:40:30,520 --> 01:40:33,599
Speaker 2: I quit sure, but like the like there are certain

2011
01:40:33,680 --> 01:40:36,760
Speaker 2: things that I feel like and I'm trying, and I

2012
01:40:36,880 --> 01:40:39,960
Speaker 2: asked this question to understand, like what is the limit,

2013
01:40:40,479 --> 01:40:44,320
Speaker 2: And so it's like like there is a uh, like

2014
01:40:44,439 --> 01:40:46,519
Speaker 2: like parents basically force their kids to do a lot

2015
01:40:46,600 --> 01:40:48,680
Speaker 2: of things that they don't necessarily want to do to

2016
01:40:48,960 --> 01:40:52,120
Speaker 2: teach lessons to like understand like familial values.

2017
01:40:52,479 --> 01:40:57,160
Speaker 1: So like it's a value add to the kids to

2018
01:40:57,240 --> 01:41:00,600
Speaker 1: put them in piano. It's a like more of a

2019
01:41:00,720 --> 01:41:02,240
Speaker 1: value take, right.

2020
01:41:02,360 --> 01:41:04,200
Speaker 2: So it's not like they're learning a skill that can

2021
01:41:04,280 --> 01:41:08,879
Speaker 2: help them advance their career or academic or otherwise.

2022
01:41:09,000 --> 01:41:13,040
Speaker 1: It's it's more so just like uh, selfishly serving.

2023
01:41:13,439 --> 01:41:13,599
Speaker 2: Right.

2024
01:41:13,760 --> 01:41:15,720
Speaker 3: I also think that a lot of parents, when a

2025
01:41:15,920 --> 01:41:18,560
Speaker 3: kid is old enough to actually know whether or not

2026
01:41:18,640 --> 01:41:21,880
Speaker 3: they like something, if they express hey, like I don't

2027
01:41:21,960 --> 01:41:24,439
Speaker 3: like piano, a parent, we'll pull them out. Like that's

2028
01:41:24,439 --> 01:41:26,120
Speaker 3: what That's what happened for me with swimming. I was like,

2029
01:41:26,200 --> 01:41:28,639
Speaker 3: I hate this. My mom was like, okay, we're gonna

2030
01:41:28,680 --> 01:41:29,679
Speaker 3: pull you out and try something.

2031
01:41:29,680 --> 01:41:31,040
Speaker 2: I think you did that twice.

2032
01:41:31,600 --> 01:41:32,400
Speaker 3: What do you mean swimming?

2033
01:41:32,520 --> 01:41:32,720
Speaker 1: Yeah?

2034
01:41:32,840 --> 01:41:36,160
Speaker 3: I did swimming for three years. Yes I did. I

2035
01:41:36,200 --> 01:41:38,519
Speaker 3: did meats. I was doing meats.

2036
01:41:39,520 --> 01:41:40,120
Speaker 1: You did not.

2037
01:41:40,560 --> 01:41:40,880
Speaker 6: I did.

2038
01:41:41,240 --> 01:41:44,280
Speaker 3: I remember, but I didn't tears.

2039
01:41:44,320 --> 01:41:48,639
Speaker 1: There's no way you did I did it. No, yes,

2040
01:41:49,000 --> 01:41:55,760
Speaker 1: I remember the door heated pool once. No, I did

2041
01:41:55,840 --> 01:41:58,840
Speaker 1: it for door heated pool once and you immediately got

2042
01:41:58,880 --> 01:42:01,000
Speaker 1: out because your lips were blue. You can ask mom,

2043
01:42:01,040 --> 01:42:03,960
Speaker 1: I did it sounds like we have more story to read.

2044
01:42:04,560 --> 01:42:08,200
Speaker 2: I'm asking this is gonna be an after story conclusion.

2045
01:42:08,240 --> 01:42:10,080
Speaker 3: Okay, definitely one to three years.

2046
01:42:10,479 --> 01:42:15,240
Speaker 1: It has more, we have more story. Doctor says, yes

2047
01:42:15,360 --> 01:42:22,439
Speaker 1: you do in response to yeah, let me rearead ope,

2048
01:42:22,800 --> 01:42:24,240
Speaker 1: OPI thank you for your advice. And I don't know

2049
01:42:24,240 --> 01:42:26,360
Speaker 1: if I'll find a job because I'm fifteen where I live.

2050
01:42:26,400 --> 01:42:27,960
Speaker 1: You need at least to be sixteen to be able

2051
01:42:28,000 --> 01:42:30,840
Speaker 1: to work, doctor Lucia, Yes, you do. It's not fair

2052
01:42:30,920 --> 01:42:33,639
Speaker 1: to use you as the fulcrumb that carries all the weight.

2053
01:42:33,960 --> 01:42:36,640
Speaker 1: What a word. Uh it needed to be said, not

2054
01:42:36,760 --> 01:42:39,360
Speaker 1: the a hole. You might need to sit down with

2055
01:42:39,520 --> 01:42:41,519
Speaker 1: your mom and have a discussion when you are more

2056
01:42:41,600 --> 01:42:44,040
Speaker 1: calm and she doesn't have an urgent need point out

2057
01:42:44,120 --> 01:42:47,120
Speaker 1: that that point out that you get that family should

2058
01:42:47,120 --> 01:42:49,639
Speaker 1: come first, but you think you should count as part

2059
01:42:49,720 --> 01:42:53,479
Speaker 1: of the family and get some uh and and get

2060
01:42:53,520 --> 01:42:56,840
Speaker 1: to come first sometimes too. Out of curiosity, you said

2061
01:42:56,880 --> 01:42:59,479
Speaker 1: your mom was working late Saturday. Why couldn't your dad

2062
01:42:59,520 --> 01:43:01,559
Speaker 1: take care of it kids, or why couldn't they hire

2063
01:43:01,560 --> 01:43:04,479
Speaker 1: a babysitter. Surely they must have had a babysitter when

2064
01:43:04,560 --> 01:43:07,720
Speaker 1: you were twelve, And if they can't hire a babysitter.

2065
01:43:07,840 --> 01:43:10,360
Speaker 1: They should pay you for your time babysitting, and they

2066
01:43:10,360 --> 01:43:13,719
Speaker 1: should pay extra if it wasn't pre arranged. Opie responds,

2067
01:43:13,760 --> 01:43:15,880
Speaker 1: thank you for understanding. I agree that it's important to

2068
01:43:15,880 --> 01:43:18,160
Speaker 1: have a calm conversation with my mom. I need her

2069
01:43:18,200 --> 01:43:20,400
Speaker 1: to see that. While I understand family comes first, I

2070
01:43:20,560 --> 01:43:23,000
Speaker 1: also need to be part of the priorities sometimes too.

2071
01:43:23,760 --> 01:43:26,240
Speaker 1: As for Dad, he works late too, so he's not

2072
01:43:26,400 --> 01:43:29,080
Speaker 1: always around to help. We don't hire a babysitter often

2073
01:43:29,160 --> 01:43:31,280
Speaker 1: because my parents think I'm old enough to handle it.

2074
01:43:31,360 --> 01:43:33,240
Speaker 1: But I do feel like it's a lot of responsibility

2075
01:43:33,320 --> 01:43:35,759
Speaker 1: for me. Paying me for babysitting is a good idea

2076
01:43:35,840 --> 01:43:40,639
Speaker 1: and something I might bring up in our conversations. Thanks again, though,

2077
01:43:40,960 --> 01:43:43,160
Speaker 1: that I think is a very reasonable.

2078
01:43:44,200 --> 01:43:46,479
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie. I was not listening at all,

2079
01:43:47,120 --> 01:43:48,960
Speaker 2: but I do have more info on the Sophie.

2080
01:43:50,360 --> 01:43:51,519
Speaker 1: Let's get some thoughts on this first.

2081
01:43:51,560 --> 01:43:54,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, get these thoughts. Okay, Yeah, I think that.

2082
01:43:55,160 --> 01:43:58,920
Speaker 1: So basically, what they were saying was laying out how

2083
01:43:59,040 --> 01:44:03,160
Speaker 1: to approach a calm but direct conversation with the mom,

2084
01:44:03,439 --> 01:44:06,880
Speaker 1: with the mom to communicate, hey, this is a lot

2085
01:44:07,040 --> 01:44:09,479
Speaker 1: like maybe I should at least get paid. I should

2086
01:44:09,520 --> 01:44:12,000
Speaker 1: be able to come first sometimes too, like we need to.

2087
01:44:12,320 --> 01:44:14,760
Speaker 1: It can't be just you like monopolizing my Yeah, I'm

2088
01:44:15,040 --> 01:44:16,880
Speaker 1: at a moment now, especially.

2089
01:44:16,600 --> 01:44:20,560
Speaker 2: If op can be paid to work elsewhere exactly. So

2090
01:44:20,680 --> 01:44:22,840
Speaker 2: it's like, you know, even tutoring like you fifteen, you

2091
01:44:22,920 --> 01:44:24,639
Speaker 2: maybe can't get like an official official job.

2092
01:44:24,520 --> 01:44:29,559
Speaker 1: But you could. Yeah, there's so there's so many things

2093
01:44:29,600 --> 01:44:31,160
Speaker 1: that that you could do and work at the saw

2094
01:44:31,240 --> 01:44:34,840
Speaker 1: mill and working on sawmill, chopping those logs and so uh,

2095
01:44:35,360 --> 01:44:36,320
Speaker 1: also saying that hey.

2096
01:44:36,280 --> 01:44:39,400
Speaker 3: Maybe if you go to a church you get paid

2097
01:44:39,439 --> 01:44:40,280
Speaker 3: to altar serve.

2098
01:44:41,080 --> 01:44:44,600
Speaker 1: So many things. Yeah, so many things, guys. So it

2099
01:44:44,760 --> 01:44:47,080
Speaker 1: seems like in this next update we are teeing up

2100
01:44:47,800 --> 01:44:50,320
Speaker 1: for a direct sit down fronting one.

2101
01:44:50,160 --> 01:44:54,559
Speaker 2: Which I'm very excited for it. But speaking of confronting mamas,

2102
01:44:55,520 --> 01:44:58,360
Speaker 2: I texted my mom and I asked how long did

2103
01:44:58,439 --> 01:45:01,639
Speaker 2: Sophia swim and and she said maybe a few months max.

2104
01:45:01,760 --> 01:45:04,480
Speaker 2: She hated it, she would cry, saying her toes.

2105
01:45:05,520 --> 01:45:07,080
Speaker 1: Okay, that's awesome, let's keep going.

2106
01:45:07,240 --> 01:45:10,960
Speaker 2: So how many times total? Like and then she said

2107
01:45:11,320 --> 01:45:11,880
Speaker 2: maybe three?

2108
01:45:12,320 --> 01:45:15,799
Speaker 3: That's not true. I did meets. I have the proof.

2109
01:45:16,280 --> 01:45:16,760
Speaker 1: I have.

2110
01:45:21,479 --> 01:45:21,839
Speaker 2: Times.

2111
01:45:21,920 --> 01:45:25,000
Speaker 3: I have I won things. What did you want? Got

2112
01:45:25,080 --> 01:45:25,840
Speaker 3: like third place?

2113
01:45:26,040 --> 01:45:26,840
Speaker 1: Forticipression?

2114
01:45:27,200 --> 01:45:32,680
Speaker 3: I got placed. You know what, I was really good

2115
01:45:32,720 --> 01:45:33,440
Speaker 3: at breaststroke.

2116
01:45:33,520 --> 01:45:35,000
Speaker 1: Okay, I believe Sophia.

2117
01:45:35,120 --> 01:45:39,360
Speaker 3: Thank you. I'm absolutely I said one to three years,

2118
01:45:39,960 --> 01:45:41,320
Speaker 3: which I yeah.

2119
01:45:42,000 --> 01:45:44,720
Speaker 1: I don't keep this story going. Let's go. In the

2120
01:45:44,760 --> 01:45:47,360
Speaker 1: spirit of solidarity with Sophia, I'm going to keep on

2121
01:45:47,479 --> 01:45:52,400
Speaker 1: going knowing that she has my full support. So update.

2122
01:45:52,840 --> 01:45:54,840
Speaker 1: Things are starting to change at home, but it's still

2123
01:45:54,880 --> 01:45:57,360
Speaker 1: a tough situation. So thanks to everyone who commented and

2124
01:45:57,400 --> 01:45:59,519
Speaker 1: offered advice on my last post. I took a lot

2125
01:45:59,560 --> 01:46:01,320
Speaker 1: of it to heart and had a serious conversation with

2126
01:46:01,400 --> 01:46:03,479
Speaker 1: my parents yesterday about how I was feeling and the

2127
01:46:03,520 --> 01:46:05,519
Speaker 1: impact that I was having on my life. To give

2128
01:46:05,600 --> 01:46:08,000
Speaker 1: some more context, my dad works as a construction site

2129
01:46:08,040 --> 01:46:10,400
Speaker 1: manager and my mom is an account executive at an

2130
01:46:10,439 --> 01:46:13,439
Speaker 1: international marketing firm. Both of their jobs require them to

2131
01:46:13,479 --> 01:46:16,360
Speaker 1: work long hours from six am to six pm, with

2132
01:46:16,479 --> 01:46:18,560
Speaker 1: a break from twelve to one pm. It's clear that

2133
01:46:18,640 --> 01:46:20,840
Speaker 1: they have demanding schedules, and I understand that they are

2134
01:46:20,920 --> 01:46:24,240
Speaker 1: doing their best to provide for our family. After our talk,

2135
01:46:24,280 --> 01:46:26,800
Speaker 1: they acknowledge that they have been putting too much work

2136
01:46:26,880 --> 01:46:29,760
Speaker 1: on my shoulders and apologized for making me miss my

2137
01:46:29,840 --> 01:46:32,960
Speaker 1: friend's birthday party. They explained how difficult it has been

2138
01:46:33,040 --> 01:46:35,519
Speaker 1: for them to balance work and family, especially since my

2139
01:46:35,600 --> 01:46:39,080
Speaker 1: mom's promotion last year. They genuinely hadn't realized how much

2140
01:46:39,160 --> 01:46:42,240
Speaker 1: it affected me. Since its summer, there's no school to

2141
01:46:42,280 --> 01:46:44,400
Speaker 1: give me a break during the day, I have to

2142
01:46:44,479 --> 01:46:47,040
Speaker 1: watch my siblings all day long, which is really hard.

2143
01:46:48,360 --> 01:46:50,280
Speaker 1: The ten year old and seven year old have summer

2144
01:46:50,320 --> 01:46:52,280
Speaker 1: reading and activities that I need to help them with.

2145
01:46:52,600 --> 01:46:55,320
Speaker 1: The four year old needs constant attention and supervision, and

2146
01:46:55,479 --> 01:46:58,839
Speaker 1: on top of that, cooking lunch and dinner and managing

2147
01:46:58,920 --> 01:47:03,400
Speaker 1: their energy levels with almost no free time during the summer. Minds,

2148
01:47:03,439 --> 01:47:05,840
Speaker 1: you like this is when you should like enjoying life

2149
01:47:05,840 --> 01:47:07,880
Speaker 1: and getting out with friends. By the time my parents

2150
01:47:07,920 --> 01:47:10,920
Speaker 1: got home, I'm exhausted and barely have time for myself

2151
01:47:11,120 --> 01:47:13,559
Speaker 1: or to hang out with my friends. For those suggesting

2152
01:47:14,000 --> 01:47:16,040
Speaker 1: For those suggesting I take a part time job as

2153
01:47:16,040 --> 01:47:18,560
Speaker 1: a babysitter, I really have no intention of doing that.

2154
01:47:18,960 --> 01:47:21,479
Speaker 1: I don't even want to have children in the future

2155
01:47:21,600 --> 01:47:23,679
Speaker 1: because taking care of them is so hard.

2156
01:47:23,800 --> 01:47:24,599
Speaker 2: I can imagine.

2157
01:47:24,680 --> 01:47:27,960
Speaker 3: I think that a lot of parentified children that like

2158
01:47:28,040 --> 01:47:29,679
Speaker 3: happens to them where they don't want kids.

2159
01:47:29,800 --> 01:47:32,840
Speaker 1: Good point. Yeah, living in Italy also makes things different

2160
01:47:32,880 --> 01:47:36,200
Speaker 1: compared to other countries, and finding a balance here is challenging.

2161
01:47:36,960 --> 01:47:39,679
Speaker 1: My daily routine is intense. My four year old sister

2162
01:47:39,840 --> 01:47:42,200
Speaker 1: wakes me up or I wake up on myself. As

2163
01:47:42,280 --> 01:47:44,080
Speaker 1: soon as I'm up, I take her to the bathroom

2164
01:47:44,120 --> 01:47:46,639
Speaker 1: where we shower, I brush her teeth, and then I dress.

2165
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Speaker 3: Her, which given our family, that's.

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Speaker 2: What I was rolling about.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I was.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but like our aunt is the only person in

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Speaker 2: our family that didn't have kids. Yeah, and she's the

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Speaker 2: she was and she was the oldest, she was the

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Speaker 2: person that was the parent of the family.

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Speaker 1: Whoa real world.

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Speaker 2: Yeah she's awesome.

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Speaker 3: She's great.

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Speaker 2: She's kind of a little parent.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, she considers all of her Yeah, got me donuts? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: oh heck ya, she's great. After that, I go straight

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Speaker 1: to the kitchen to prepare breakfast for everyone. Once breakfast

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Speaker 1: is done, I give my siblings their iPads to watch

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01:48:24,840 --> 01:48:26,000
Speaker 1: YouTube videos.

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01:48:27,080 --> 01:48:28,920
Speaker 2: Creating a world of iPad kids.

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Speaker 1: The ten year old and seven year old go to

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Speaker 1: the room to watch while the seven year old uses

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Speaker 1: her iPad in the living room. Sometimes they sit quietly.

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Speaker 1: Other times they start fighting, depending on their moods. After breakfast,

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Speaker 1: I start preparing lunch. Guys, we've only gotten through breakfast

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01:48:42,760 --> 01:48:45,519
Speaker 1: so far. Once lunch is ready, my mom usually comes

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Speaker 1: home and h takes it to and and takes it

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Speaker 1: to my dad's workplace, where they eat together. I then

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Speaker 1: clean up and go through the same routine for the afternoon.

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Speaker 1: At four pm, I start preparing dinners.

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Speaker 3: Living nanny, live in nanny. This is ridiculous to the mac. Yeah,

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01:49:00,720 --> 01:49:04,000
Speaker 3: not only taking care of her siblings, but also her parents.

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Speaker 1: Complete parents household, complete household management.

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Speaker 3: I don't think it's an issue for a child to

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Speaker 3: necessarily make dinner once in a while for parents, but

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Speaker 3: this is this is too far.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: By the time dinner is ready, my mom and dad

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Speaker 1: are usually home. We all eat together and after dinner

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Speaker 1: my dad showers. My dad showers, followed by my mom.

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Speaker 1: We then gather around the living room to watch TV

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Speaker 1: and at nine PM. My parents sometimes stay up late

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01:49:27,479 --> 01:49:29,280
Speaker 1: or they go to bed early, depending on how their

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Speaker 1: day went. Despite their understanding, we still can't afford to

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01:49:32,600 --> 01:49:35,360
Speaker 1: hire a full time babysitter. My parents are trying to

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01:49:35,400 --> 01:49:37,560
Speaker 1: make changes where they can like my dad adjusting is

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01:49:37,600 --> 01:49:40,519
Speaker 1: break times to come home earlier when possible, or my

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Speaker 1: mom working from home one day a week to give

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Speaker 1: me some respite. They're also looking into summer programs for

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01:49:45,680 --> 01:49:49,000
Speaker 1: my younger siblings, but nothing has been decided yet. I'm

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01:49:49,040 --> 01:49:51,519
Speaker 1: hopeful that with these small changes things will get better.

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01:49:51,880 --> 01:49:54,720
Speaker 1: My parents have promised to continue looking for solutions and

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01:49:54,800 --> 01:49:57,040
Speaker 1: to be more mindful of my needs and schedule. In

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01:49:57,120 --> 01:49:59,320
Speaker 1: the meantime, I'm trying to manage as best as I

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01:49:59,400 --> 01:50:01,880
Speaker 1: can and take things one day at a time. I'm

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01:50:01,880 --> 01:50:04,759
Speaker 1: grateful for the support and understanding from everyone who commented.

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01:50:05,000 --> 01:50:07,960
Speaker 1: It really helped me see I wasn't being unreasonable and

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01:50:08,080 --> 01:50:11,519
Speaker 1: that my feelings are valid and this is where things

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01:50:11,560 --> 01:50:16,400
Speaker 1: are now. I really love you guys, and let's close

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Speaker 1: out with these relevant comments here. Hello June Bug says

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01:50:19,080 --> 01:50:22,240
Speaker 1: she's an account executive and he's a site superintendent. Lole,

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01:50:22,320 --> 01:50:24,600
Speaker 1: I just don't get it. I know it's Italy not

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01:50:24,720 --> 01:50:27,280
Speaker 1: the US, but for real, I looked up average salaries,

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01:50:27,320 --> 01:50:29,960
Speaker 1: and an account executive average average salary is around seventy

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01:50:30,000 --> 01:50:32,599
Speaker 1: five k euros and the construction site manager is around

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01:50:32,640 --> 01:50:34,920
Speaker 1: fifty k euros. That's one hundred and twenty five k

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01:50:35,080 --> 01:50:38,640
Speaker 1: euros yearly. Average cost of living in literally living in

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01:50:38,720 --> 01:50:41,720
Speaker 1: Italy for a family of four is roughly three K

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01:50:41,880 --> 01:50:44,800
Speaker 1: plus a rent slash mortgage, but that includes childcare and

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01:50:44,920 --> 01:50:49,320
Speaker 1: literally everything food, clothes, leisure, et cetera. Opie says, I know, right,

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01:50:49,439 --> 01:50:51,519
Speaker 1: it doesn't seem to add up. Sometimes my mom's an

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01:50:51,560 --> 01:50:54,439
Speaker 1: account executive and my dad's a site superintendent, which are

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01:50:54,520 --> 01:50:56,839
Speaker 1: good jobs, but it still feels like they're always stretched

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01:50:56,840 --> 01:50:59,559
Speaker 1: thin financially. They work long hours, and I see how

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01:50:59,600 --> 01:51:01,800
Speaker 1: hard they were, but it seems like they're always there's

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01:51:01,880 --> 01:51:04,439
Speaker 1: always something that needs money, whether it's bills, groceries, or

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01:51:04,439 --> 01:51:07,800
Speaker 1: something unexpected. Maybe it's because things are more expensive here

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01:51:07,840 --> 01:51:10,080
Speaker 1: in Italy, or maybe they're saving up for something big.

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Speaker 1: I just wish there was more leftover for us. They

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01:51:13,640 --> 01:51:16,519
Speaker 1: have a bit more ease, uh, with a bit more

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01:51:16,560 --> 01:51:18,320
Speaker 1: ease and not worry about money all the time. This

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01:51:18,479 --> 01:51:21,679
Speaker 1: is literally so to me right now, that's so bad

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01:51:21,840 --> 01:51:25,360
Speaker 1: for this kid because it's like, like, what is there's

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01:51:25,439 --> 01:51:28,679
Speaker 1: no good options here? Yeah, you know, because it's like, yes,

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01:51:28,840 --> 01:51:31,400
Speaker 1: he wants to have more time alone, but if you

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01:51:31,600 --> 01:51:35,720
Speaker 1: just you know, just leaves the kids, then what are

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01:51:35,720 --> 01:51:36,479
Speaker 1: the parents are gonna do.

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01:51:36,800 --> 01:51:38,960
Speaker 3: Yeah. And also I was gonna say on your point,

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Speaker 3: going back to your point of like what what is

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01:51:40,600 --> 01:51:45,280
Speaker 3: crossing the line? I think relying on your children, Like

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01:51:45,520 --> 01:51:47,880
Speaker 3: if you rely on your children more than they rely on.

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01:51:47,960 --> 01:51:52,840
Speaker 6: You, mmma, this is this is there are relying on

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01:51:52,920 --> 01:51:55,839
Speaker 6: her to cook for all of them, including the parents,

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Speaker 6: to watch their kids, to clean it seems, and.

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Speaker 1: Like why even have kids at that point if you're

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01:52:05,680 --> 01:52:08,519
Speaker 1: not parenting them, like you're not like you're like, they're

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01:52:08,600 --> 01:52:11,040
Speaker 1: not spending any time with those children. Those children are

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01:52:11,080 --> 01:52:14,599
Speaker 1: getting no parental guidance whatsoever. The problem is it's all

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01:52:14,720 --> 01:52:17,200
Speaker 1: delayed because it's like you have the kids and then

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01:52:17,960 --> 01:52:20,599
Speaker 1: like as time progresses, you're like, oh crap, I got

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01:52:20,680 --> 01:52:22,640
Speaker 1: like I got a baby over here, I got two

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01:52:22,760 --> 01:52:27,120
Speaker 1: kids over like like once you have all the children,

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01:52:27,200 --> 01:52:29,880
Speaker 1: which is like again you should really know and go

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01:52:30,000 --> 01:52:32,599
Speaker 1: into it. But maybe it wasn't on purpose too, who knows.

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01:52:32,680 --> 01:52:35,840
Speaker 3: Also, a fifteen year old does not know how to parent. Yeah,

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01:52:36,040 --> 01:52:41,759
Speaker 3: a fifteen year old is not mentally you know, ready

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01:52:41,920 --> 01:52:44,800
Speaker 3: enough to be a parent. We already learned. She's giving

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01:52:44,880 --> 01:52:46,960
Speaker 3: I mean like some parents do this, but she's like

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Speaker 3: giving the kids iPads all the time because she doesn't

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01:52:49,160 --> 01:52:49,840
Speaker 3: have time to take.

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Speaker 1: Care of her.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and she's not realizing how bad that could be

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Speaker 2: for those kids. Yeah.

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01:52:53,520 --> 01:52:56,280
Speaker 3: No, and she didn't. She shouldn't. She doesn't have to know. Yeah,

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01:52:57,400 --> 01:53:00,599
Speaker 3: she's not a freaking parent. She's fifteen. It's like, there

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01:53:00,680 --> 01:53:06,559
Speaker 3: is that movie with Mark Wahlberg that his name, yeah Tech, Yeah, yeah,

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01:53:06,640 --> 01:53:09,040
Speaker 3: Mark Wahlberg and he it's based off a true story

2279
01:53:09,080 --> 01:53:15,080
Speaker 3: where he and his wife fostered three kids and there

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01:53:15,200 --> 01:53:18,160
Speaker 3: is this one fifteen year old who, because of like

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01:53:18,280 --> 01:53:21,479
Speaker 3: going through the foster home with her siblings, kind of

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01:53:21,520 --> 01:53:22,519
Speaker 3: became a parent for them.

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01:53:22,720 --> 01:53:22,920
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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01:53:23,080 --> 01:53:26,719
Speaker 3: And then they kind of have this conversation with the CPS,

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01:53:26,880 --> 01:53:30,080
Speaker 3: like the worker and they're like, oh, well, she keeps

2286
01:53:30,120 --> 01:53:32,880
Speaker 3: wanting to like take control and like we don't know,

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01:53:32,960 --> 01:53:35,400
Speaker 3: We're trying to discipline her, but she's not listening. And

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01:53:36,040 --> 01:53:38,280
Speaker 3: the person they're talking to is like, well, she just

2289
01:53:38,360 --> 01:53:39,840
Speaker 3: not going to she's not gonna let you do that.

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01:53:39,960 --> 01:53:42,080
Speaker 3: And they were like, oh, well, should we just let

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01:53:42,160 --> 01:53:45,519
Speaker 3: her parent them? And the worker was like, no, she's fifteen.

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01:53:45,640 --> 01:53:48,639
Speaker 3: She's a terrible parent. You have to figure that out.

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01:53:48,800 --> 01:53:50,920
Speaker 3: That's your job as a parent. And I think that

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01:53:51,080 --> 01:53:51,720
Speaker 3: was applicable.

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01:53:52,280 --> 01:53:54,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, every you kind of have to do everything in

2296
01:53:54,640 --> 01:53:56,600
Speaker 1: your power, and family is the movie. Yeah, you have

2297
01:53:56,680 --> 01:53:59,800
Speaker 1: to do everything in your power to be parenting all

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01:54:00,600 --> 01:54:02,519
Speaker 1: of the children. Yeah, there can be like a mix.

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01:54:02,640 --> 01:54:05,599
Speaker 1: And now now it seems like they're they're progressing towards

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01:54:05,640 --> 01:54:09,240
Speaker 1: a healthier place of finding the best balance they can. Yeah,

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01:54:09,640 --> 01:54:12,160
Speaker 1: and that maybe they they didn't realize that they were

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01:54:12,160 --> 01:54:15,439
Speaker 1: putting all this. I think their response was good, or

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01:54:15,800 --> 01:54:18,200
Speaker 1: that they're starting that that they're that they're starting to

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01:54:18,280 --> 01:54:20,680
Speaker 1: trend towards the right direction. They they totally could not.

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01:54:21,600 --> 01:54:22,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, but

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Speaker 1: That's it.