1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:04,880 Speaker 1: Correctional rainfall dass Kerr County, Texas, Friday morning, causing flooding 2 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:08,560 Speaker 1: from the Guadalupe River. The death toll has now risen 3 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:12,039 Speaker 1: to twenty four people, and one death was also reported 4 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:15,319 Speaker 1: in Kendall County. Rescue teams have been working through the 5 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 1: night to find survivors as more than twenty people remain 6 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 1: unaccounted for from a summer camp in Hunt, Texas. NBC's 7 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 1: Ryan Chandler is on the ground with more. 8 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:32,200 Speaker 2: In Central Texas. A catastrophic flood emergency. 9 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:33,520 Speaker 3: Is going to be a mash casualty event. 10 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:37,240 Speaker 4: Forties saying fourteen helicopters are in the air. 11 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 2: One rescuer dangling from a shopper appearing to help someone 12 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 2: up in a tree as flooding rages below. Cars lifting 13 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:48,880 Speaker 2: off the ground, swept away by the powerful waters. These 14 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 2: steps leading to a house that's no longer there. 15 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 5: This is our house. 16 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 4: Rider, another push down the road. The water started to 17 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 4: rise very ira and the Iravel along the river. 18 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 2: A series of summer camps, the La Junta camp for boys, 19 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 2: posting that everyone is safe, but some girls at Camp 20 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 2: Mystic trapped. 21 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 6: Now they're twenty some that aren't accounted for We're praying 22 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 6: for all of those missing to be found alive. 23 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 7: You can feel the anxiety here as parents are waiting 24 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:22,039 Speaker 7: to hear a word about their child. We're told that 25 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 7: these children are being transported by helicopter, the only way out. 26 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 8: Of the camp. 27 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 4: As parents wait to hear they return safely. 28 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 2: The county judge pressed on why the camps weren't evacuated. 29 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:35,679 Speaker 3: We knew all Why were. 30 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 9: These chance evacuated? 31 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 4: I can't answer that. 32 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 9: I don't know. 33 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:40,399 Speaker 3: These camps weren't Arm's way. 34 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 8: We knew the flows. 35 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:44,959 Speaker 3: We didn't know this flood was coming. That's sure. 36 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 4: No one knew this kind of flood was coming. 37 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 2: The tight knit Texas towns across Kirk County are popular 38 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 2: recreation areas. Lenn clenden In and Rory Higgins were camping 39 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 2: asleep in their cabin when the water started rushing in. 40 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 5: Everything happened so terribly fast. 41 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 6: There was mobile homes, travel trailers, cabins. 42 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:08,639 Speaker 3: Vehicles, people in the water. 43 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 8: It was It was devastating. 44 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:12,799 Speaker 4: They took this video showing a building from the. 45 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 2: Campground washing away their beloved Border Colie Ripper is still missing. 46 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 4: Blood threats were. 47 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 2: In place because drenching rain flooded the riverhead. Massive amounts 48 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 2: of water got pushed downstream. At one point National Weather 49 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 2: Service data showing the water rising nearly thirty feet in 50 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 2: one hour. This region near the Guadalupe River is no 51 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 2: stranger to floods. In nineteen eighty seven, rapidly rising water 52 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 2: killed ten people that stalled out and the. 53 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 10: Water was sud that starting. 54 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 11: It was real nat So we were going to try 55 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 11: to get out and get to the road clean, going. 56 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 4: Too far back and. 57 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 8: It started washing people away. 58 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 4: It was supposed to be a holiday celebration is now 59 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 4: a nightmare. 60 00:02:56,560 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 3: This came a night before and dead. 61 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 8: Please play food. 62 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 9: Original forecast that we received on Wednesday from the National 63 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 9: Weather Service predicted three to six inches of rain in 64 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:14,959 Speaker 9: the Concho Valley and four to eight inches of rain 65 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 9: in the Hill country. We worked with our own meteorologists 66 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 9: to fine tune that weather statement, and as many of 67 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 9: you know, and many of you in broadcast journalism indieurology, 68 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:25,800 Speaker 9: you can go back and look at your own forecast, 69 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 9: and the amount of rain that fell in this specific 70 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:30,399 Speaker 9: location was never in any of those forecasts. 71 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 11: This rain event sat on top of that and dumped 72 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 11: more rain than what was forecasted on both of those forks. 73 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 11: When we got the report, it was about seven feet 74 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 11: or so on the South Fork, and within a matter 75 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 11: of minutes it was up to twenty nine feet and 76 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 11: all of that converged at the Guadaloupe and that's where 77 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 11: we saw those very quick rise and flood. 78 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 4: But listen to everybody. 79 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 9: Got the forecast from the National Weather Service, right, you 80 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 9: all got it. You're all in media. 81 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 4: You got that forecast. 82 00:03:57,400 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 9: It did not predict the amount of rain that we saw. 83 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 5: This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray 84 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 5: for our enemies because we're going to medieval on these people. 85 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 5: You've not got a free shot. 86 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 6: All these networks lying about the people, the people have 87 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 6: had a belly full of it. 88 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 5: I know you don't like hearing that. I know you 89 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 5: tried to do everything in the world to stop that, 90 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 5: but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen. 91 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 4: And where do people like that go to share the 92 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 4: big line? 93 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:29,720 Speaker 8: Mega media? 94 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 9: I wish in my soul, I wish that any. 95 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 8: Of these people had a conscience. 96 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 12: Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? 97 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 12: If that answer is to save my country? This country 98 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 12: will be saved. 99 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 8: Worry use your host, Stephen. 100 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:58,160 Speaker 5: K Bas Saturday, five July in the Year of Our 101 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 5: Lord twenty twenty five. Normally, as you know, when we 102 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:02,720 Speaker 5: do fourth of July and then fourth of July weekend 103 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:06,159 Speaker 5: is always the fifth we carry over our coverage talking 104 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:09,480 Speaker 5: about the foundation of the country and also the revolutionary 105 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 5: war that was upon the signers. So much pressing business today, 106 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 5: we're not even We had a cold open all set 107 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 5: for the great Signing ceremony and the flyover and the fireworks. 108 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 5: But there's many big stories that I know this audience 109 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 5: needs to focus on, including I think a rapidly expanding 110 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 5: war in Ukraine and also this biblical level tragedy down 111 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 5: in a Cerrville, Texas and around the Guadalupe River. We've 112 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 5: got a whole team down there. Ben Berkwam is on location. 113 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 5: Let's go to Let's go to Ben Ben. You just 114 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:53,359 Speaker 5: informed us is going to be another press conference because 115 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 5: information coming out is very sketchy. We found out last 116 00:05:57,000 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 5: night that there were twenty three I think young girls. 117 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 5: I think forty people missing overall, but twenty three I 118 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 5: think third graders from the bubble ind over at the 119 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:11,480 Speaker 5: Mystic camp that we're missing. It's kind of sketchy. Some 120 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:13,719 Speaker 5: things have been up on line this morning about how 121 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 5: many of those children have been recovered. I haven't heard 122 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 5: of any being rescued. There's gonna be another press conference also, 123 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 5: I wanted to include. I thought it was important our 124 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 5: producers did. There's already so there's a search and rescue. 125 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 5: All this equipment's coming in. These brave individuals. We had 126 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 5: Colonel Chambers Doc Chambers on last night. You've got people 127 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 5: running to the sound of the guns to find these children, 128 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 5: to rescue them, and others adults and also then livestock 129 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 5: all of that. But there's also already accountability finger pointing 130 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 5: whether it was the weather forecast, wireland close. So we're 131 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 5: going to cover both these. Ben get us up today. 132 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:56,119 Speaker 5: You rushed there from Iowa and it couldn't celebrate Fourth 133 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 5: of July with your family. Really appreciated. What do you 134 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 5: got for us this morning? Okay, we don't. 135 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 13: Have been hooked up on Yeah, Steve, Yeah, I was 136 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 13: actually on my way home Fluid Houston was driving up 137 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 13: almost to text Arcana and got the message from you 138 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 13: and turned around rerouted down here. Got a lot of 139 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 13: friends in this area. 140 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 5: And so we went to the location. 141 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 13: I just want to get out of the shot here 142 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 13: for a second, just to show you how you know 143 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 13: the level of devastation, and we'll talk more about the details, 144 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 13: but this is right downtown Currville, and I was just 145 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 13: gonna turn the camera just show you so that where 146 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 13: I'm standing right now, I'm about twenty feet above the river, 147 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 13: and I would have been underwater. This entire area here 148 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 13: was underwater. Turned back this way towards one of the bridges, 149 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 13: you could just see. And this is what they're going 150 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 13: through right now. Rescue efforts. They're having to comb through 151 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:01,239 Speaker 13: all of this debris, all the trees down. 152 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 5: You know, the closest thing. 153 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 13: I could equate it to is what I saw in 154 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 13: North Carolina and. 155 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 4: Tennessee. 156 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 13: Not on the same scale, but when you see just 157 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 13: trees snapped like twigs, and just a reference point to 158 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 13: give you an idea of the water level. In some 159 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 13: areas it went over thirty feet. But that tree right there, 160 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 13: you can see it snapped. Where some of the limbs 161 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 13: are broken. The top where that the bark is ripped 162 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 13: off is basically where the water line was. And what 163 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 13: we're hearing is the major disaster. You know, it's really 164 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 13: it is. It's really a tragedy on multiple levels. Finger 165 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 13: Pointing is gonna happen. It always happens in these things. 166 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:51,680 Speaker 13: The rain totals, the estimates seem to be a little 167 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 13: bit low. They got over five inches here. Some areas 168 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 13: are reporting over eight inches, some ten inches. Just a 169 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 13: massive amount of water. In fact, that storm is still circulating. 170 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 13: Austin's getting hammered right now and that's going to continue, 171 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:05,199 Speaker 13: and it looks like it's actually going to come back 172 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:08,439 Speaker 13: down this air to this area over the next twenty 173 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 13: four hours. So we're keeping an eye on that because 174 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:13,959 Speaker 13: all of that hampers the rescue efforts. The last numbers 175 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 13: I heard, and I will be at that press conference 176 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 13: at ten am. Just down the road. Mystic Camp is 177 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 13: about twenty minutes up the road. It's inaccessible. It's about 178 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 13: an hour now because you have to go out and around. 179 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 13: It's all shut down for the rescue efforts. But that 180 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 13: recovery effort still ongoing. But it's still ongoing all the 181 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:34,839 Speaker 13: way down here. The problem is they don't know how 182 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 13: far people wash down the river, So we're talking about 183 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 13: a several hundred mile swath and those are the people 184 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 13: that they know about. Last numbers I got from somebody 185 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 13: involved with search and rescue last night was twenty are 186 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 13: still missing. Twenty children. That's total, that's not just from 187 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:52,959 Speaker 13: the Mystic camp. That's total for Kerr County. And then 188 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:56,080 Speaker 13: thirty to forty adults as well. That's the most up 189 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 13: to date number I have. That will probably change. Hopefully 190 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 13: we get a better update at ten am Local time 191 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 13: eleven am Eastern. 192 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, we'll cover that live. Here's the thing is that 193 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 5: what has been reported as the river rose because it 194 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:17,080 Speaker 5: is different than Appalachia and then western North Carolina and Tennessee. 195 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 5: But the river rose twenty six feet in forty five minutes, 196 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:26,440 Speaker 5: and then it continued to rise I think overall forty 197 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 5: to forty two feet within like an hour to two hours. 198 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:32,439 Speaker 5: So the rise and you see there from the thing, 199 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 5: it just caught everybody surprise, and I guess the pre 200 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 5: dawn hours of three to five o'clock in the morning. 201 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 5: But the rise of the river so rapidly was really 202 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 5: like a wall of water coming down on the Guadaloupe. 203 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 5: And that's what washed out the question about should these 204 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 5: things have been evacuate all that what they're saying, Hey, 205 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:53,200 Speaker 5: it was the middle of the night. They're pointing fingers 206 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 5: to the National Weather Service, of pointing fingers to other 207 00:10:56,720 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 5: weather forecasters, et cetera. Do we at ten o'clock or 208 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:04,200 Speaker 5: they going to have a bigger because whatever he's focused on, 209 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 5: obviously is this these children from this camp. It was 210 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 5: reported there were twenty three nine year olds. Do you 211 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 5: have any update nine year old girls? Do you have 212 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 5: any update on that? 213 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:17,440 Speaker 13: Yeah, the most up to date numbers I have are 214 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:20,320 Speaker 13: what I just said, twenty total is twenty plus, So 215 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 13: I heard anywhere between twenty four and twenty six. Now 216 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:25,960 Speaker 13: I hope those are old numbers. The guy spoke to 217 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 13: is involved with the rescue efforts. That's what he told 218 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 13: me last night. We're anticipating getting updated numbers this morning. 219 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 13: I think the big thing they don't want to give 220 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:37,320 Speaker 13: false information and then have to come back and say otherwise. 221 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 13: You know, when this first happened, you were messaging me 222 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 13: and saying, hey, we're hearing one hundred kids are missing. 223 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 13: And that's the problem with a lot of these disasters, 224 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:48,679 Speaker 13: as you start getting speculation on top of what's already 225 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:51,319 Speaker 13: a tragedy. And so I think they're being very careful 226 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 13: about making sure whatever numbers they give out as are 227 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 13: accurate numbers. Yeah, as they should, as they absolutely should. 228 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:01,199 Speaker 13: And then look, just going back to this, what happened. 229 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 13: You know, it's just the perfect storm. It just happened 230 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 13: to be eighty percent of the year. The way that 231 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 13: this river is set up, the way that most of 232 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 13: the communities are built up around here, Hill Country is 233 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 13: used to flooding. This is just you know, they're talking 234 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 13: about this being one of the one hundred year flood scales. 235 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:20,719 Speaker 13: This is massive. It was unexpected. It kind of came 236 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:22,440 Speaker 13: out of nowhere with the storm. I mean, we knew 237 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 13: a couple days in advance, but the way it just 238 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 13: sat over here again kind of similar to what we 239 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 13: saw in North Carolina and Tennessee. That storm just sat 240 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 13: on top of them. Nobody expected the amount that they had. 241 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 13: And then the big, the big concern they had was, well, 242 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 13: now that we know that the river's rising so rapidly, 243 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 13: do we try to do a mass evacuation and then 244 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 13: potentially have more fatalities, more injuries because people are trying 245 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 13: to drive through flooded areas, or do we keep people 246 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 13: sheltered in place and so it seems like there was 247 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 13: some confusion understandably during those first few minutes and hours 248 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 13: on who to have shelter in place and who to 249 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:02,320 Speaker 13: have evacuated, and then how to reach those people and 250 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 13: which places were the most devastated. We do know this, 251 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 13: the Texas Emergency Management team was already on site. They 252 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 13: had the swift water or rescue boats on site, They 253 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 13: were ready to go. They knew something could happen. They 254 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 13: just nobody anticipated the scale that it would happen at 255 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 13: and the quickness that this happened at. And the saddest 256 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 13: part of this is it just happened on the wrong 257 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:27,199 Speaker 13: weekend where most of these camps are in operation. Everybody's 258 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 13: coming down here to celebrate the Fourth of July, and 259 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:32,320 Speaker 13: so it was just, you know, it's just a terrible, 260 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:36,080 Speaker 13: terrible tragedy. And now they're what they The requests that 261 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 13: I've been given by emergency Management, by Sheriff here in 262 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 13: Kirk County is if you are not a part of 263 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 13: the rescue efforts, please don't come. 264 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 5: You know, one of the problems. 265 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 13: We get in a lot of these disasters is you 266 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:48,959 Speaker 13: get some of the you know, people just coming down 267 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 13: to take a look, they end up clogging the roads. 268 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 13: They had problems yesterday people blocking roads to take pictures 269 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:57,080 Speaker 13: and to film. And just if you're not a part 270 00:13:57,080 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 13: of the rescue efforts, please don't come right now until 271 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 13: they find every one of these missing children and missing adults. 272 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 13: That is their number one focus. 273 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 5: Doc Chambers are going to try to get Ben if 274 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 5: you can stick around, If you can still get to 275 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:14,680 Speaker 5: the I'll talk to you in the break. If you 276 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:18,080 Speaker 5: still get to the press conference, Doc Chambers is going 277 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 5: to also join us. He's saying that there's been one 278 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 5: hundred and twenty rescues since the press conference last night, 279 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 5: so we'll We've got Doc Chambers up I think the 280 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 5: Congressman ship boy is down there, even Jason Jones, who 281 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 5: lives in the areas down there. So we're going to 282 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 5: try to get some folks up here and get some details. 283 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 5: Ben Berkham is with us heading to the press conference. 284 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 5: Short commercial break. Philip Patrick's going to join us at 285 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 5: the bottom of the hour from Rio about the Rio 286 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 5: reset and the de dollarisation program of the Bricks Nations. 287 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 5: All next in the war room. 288 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 14: Briens of Rules by Freedoms, last the Marry. 289 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 8: Here's your host, Stephen k Back. 290 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 5: Okay, welcome back. We cut Ben berkwom loose of Ben 291 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 5: berkwhomb can get to Kerville and actually get to the 292 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 5: press conference that's going to take place at eleven o'clock. 293 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 5: The one last night was actually I thought pretty informative 294 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 5: given the lack of a lot of information. They had 295 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 5: one thing, you can tell already to some debate between 296 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 5: what the forecasts were and what was told to people. 297 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 5: So we're gonna make sure we get to all that. Also, 298 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 5: Doc Chambers, who was with us last night. We're going 299 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 5: to try to get Doc Chambers on here in a 300 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 5: moment soon as we can get him up. Also, Peter 301 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 5: Theo is one of these rescue groups that rode to 302 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 5: the sound of the guns immediately. Peter Theo is going 303 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 5: to also join us, and we're going to get some clarification, 304 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 5: particularly on the search and rescue right now kind of 305 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 5: up in the air. I think search and rescue is 306 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 5: still twenty plus of the children. Now they're saying that 307 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 5: maybe all the children not just from the camp, but 308 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 5: all the children lost in this tragedy on the Guadalupe River. 309 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 5: As I said, a rain still for the Hill Country 310 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 5: Texas area has just heard of Ben Burkham maybe doubled 311 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 5: back on Curvell. I think what the question is is 312 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 5: what you know this river twenty six feet in forty 313 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 5: five minutes is nothing short of biblical. You've seen some 314 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 5: of the footage how it came ripping through and not 315 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 5: just expanded the width of the river, but the depth 316 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 5: and the velocity of water going down was nothing short 317 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 5: of biblical. Then they said forty two feet I think 318 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 5: in an hour and an hour and a half. And 319 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 5: so that's where you see this tragedy unfolding before you. 320 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 5: Like I said, Peter t O and Doc Chambers, as 321 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 5: soon as you get them up from the Field's tough 322 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 5: getting a signal down there, but we want to make 323 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 5: sure we're on top of this because I think it's 324 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 5: one of the most important stories in the world. Also, 325 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 5: Ben Harnwell is going to has been up, has been 326 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 5: up yet correct production team. The Ben's going to join 327 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:11,440 Speaker 5: us President Trump in this kind of victory after victories, 328 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 5: had win after win. President Trump was had a call 329 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:19,359 Speaker 5: with putin the other day of which he was working, 330 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 5: you know, to whip the vote. He had a call 331 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 5: put another day and it didn't go very well. If 332 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 5: he read the axios, I think had the most accurate. 333 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 5: It's that at the end Putin told Trump, he said, hey, look, 334 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 5: I want to have a bide lateral I want to 335 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 5: have a bide lateral negotiation here and essentially butt out. 336 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:37,399 Speaker 5: President Trump said later was not a good call. President 337 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:41,680 Speaker 5: Trump had already stopped the Pentagon, had stopped additional weaponry 338 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:46,639 Speaker 5: because we're after the Israeli situation with the Iranians. The 339 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:50,439 Speaker 5: Persians were down THAD missiles I think twenty five percent 340 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 5: the Patriot missiles that were used in Qatar to shoot 341 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 5: down and also the patriots who gave Israel were down 342 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:58,440 Speaker 5: Patriots and were taken him out of Korea. In the Pacific. 343 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 5: We told the Ukraine we can't you know, we can't 344 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 5: draw down our stocks anymore now because of the phone call, 345 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:09,440 Speaker 5: and also the battering of Kiev by the battering of 346 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:12,919 Speaker 5: Kiev by the Russians the other night. I think the 347 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:18,400 Speaker 5: most brutal of all the bombardments, drones, missiles, aircraft strikes 348 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 5: in Kiev was the other night. I think it was 349 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:22,160 Speaker 5: Thursday night. 350 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 4: Brutal. 351 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 5: Today the Atlantic magazine, Ben Harnweld joins us from Rome 352 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:29,919 Speaker 5: The Atlantic magazine has an Apple bomb who is no 353 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:33,480 Speaker 5: fan of the war Room, no phan of Maga, no 354 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:37,160 Speaker 5: fan of America first non intervention, and particularly she detests 355 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:41,680 Speaker 5: Donald Trump. She's got a piece in the Atlantic Band 356 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 5: that says Trump is switching sides, and we're going to 357 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 5: ask you how she drives that. But she does have 358 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 5: a buried leader that with Poso has been talking about 359 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 5: Putin's actually, and this is supposed to be for an 360 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 5: army that was beaten. This is what the media has 361 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:59,639 Speaker 5: told us, a summer offensive of six hundred and seventy 362 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:05,400 Speaker 5: five a thousand combat troops for a massive front in Ukraine. 363 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:07,959 Speaker 5: Ben Harnwell, can you gets up to speed on everything 364 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:11,239 Speaker 5: is happening? Because I think this one, as much as 365 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:14,160 Speaker 5: President Trump's trying to step in and haveever you put 366 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 5: their guns down, I think this one could be rapidly 367 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 5: spinning out of control, sir, Okay, Ben, You've got it 368 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 5: on mute? I think okay, do we have Ben? Okay, 369 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 5: We're gonna get these right eventually. Ben Harnwell, you off mute? 370 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:44,640 Speaker 5: Are we set up? Okay, We're gonna get Ben. Put 371 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 5: back up? Okay, Ben Harnwall, are you there? 372 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:47,680 Speaker 11: Yeah? 373 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:49,399 Speaker 8: I'm here. Can you hear me loud and claim? 374 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 10: Have you got me? 375 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 5: I can hear you next time unhooked? Mute either Denver 376 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 5: or Rome, take your pick. Okay? Is Ant Applebaum right? 377 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 5: Are the Russians getting ready for six hundred and seventy 378 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:06,199 Speaker 5: five thousand man off summer offensive? Sir well, I think 379 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:08,479 Speaker 5: she is right on that, Steve. But let's just quickly 380 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 5: do the chronology if I may. 381 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:15,399 Speaker 10: On the night before US Independence Day celebrations, it's just 382 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:18,640 Speaker 10: as you say. Thursday, President Trump had an hour long 383 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 10: phone call with President Putin, and let's go textually to 384 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:28,639 Speaker 10: what he said. President Trump said, it's a very tough situation. 385 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:31,680 Speaker 10: I was very unhappy with my call with President Putin. 386 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 10: He wants to go all the way just killing people. 387 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 10: It's no good that, Steve contrasts with the phone call 388 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 10: that he had with President Zelenski, which he actually basically 389 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 10: agreed to pretty much to all of President Zelenski's requests, 390 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:51,719 Speaker 10: that is, to increase Ukraine's air capacity to vent itself 391 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 10: at the air cover, specifically providing the US Patriot missiles, 392 00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:59,200 Speaker 10: which he alluded to about ten days ago, which he said, 393 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 10: let's see if we can get them these missiles which 394 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 10: they're going to pay for. So this would very much 395 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 10: tie into that position. And then Steve, you've got this 396 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 10: situation that the six ninety five thousand troops build up 397 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:13,200 Speaker 10: on the Ukraine border. 398 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 8: Steve, my hesitation here. 399 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 10: My issue with this here is that President Trump is 400 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:22,920 Speaker 10: already being dragged into this, as he has been being 401 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:26,199 Speaker 10: dragged into this really by both sides in this war, 402 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 10: specifically Ukraine, since the inauguration. I look at these timings 403 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:33,920 Speaker 10: of these dates and really from what I can gather, Steve, 404 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 10: within a few moments of his phone call with President 405 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:40,919 Speaker 10: Putin finishing President Putin, this is, as I say, on 406 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 10: Thursday launched the largest drone and ballistic missile attack to 407 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 10: date on Kiev and Ukraine. 408 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 8: And this isn't very. 409 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:54,879 Speaker 10: Good, I think for President Trump, who's trying to be 410 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 10: the deal maker, he's trying to get be the man 411 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 10: of peace, but he's finding himself ground in between these 412 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:07,200 Speaker 10: two cogs. And therefore, as we've been covering on the 413 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:09,640 Speaker 10: wound for the last few days, he is in this 414 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:13,359 Speaker 10: situation which has a certain escalatory as far as the 415 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 10: US is concerned. 416 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 15: Momentum, Ben, talk to me, then, do you think, how 417 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:25,640 Speaker 15: do we avoid being dragged into this even more? 418 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:27,679 Speaker 5: I mean, President Trump want to stop this. Twenty four 419 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 5: hours he admitted it was more complicated than that. He 420 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 5: now it looks like he made a decision that, hey, 421 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:37,439 Speaker 5: we're going to tell both sides that we took a 422 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 5: shot at this, but we're not going to re arm 423 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:44,399 Speaker 5: the Ukrainians. We're going to make the Europeans rearmed the Ukrainians. 424 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:47,440 Speaker 5: President Trump goes to NATO. The entire five percent, let's 425 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 5: be brutally frank about this, going up to five percent, 426 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:54,479 Speaker 5: is directly tied to NATO into their fear of Russia. 427 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 5: We haven't forced the Europeans right now, are we getting 428 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 5: as non interventional and Ukraine being even I think a 429 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:05,200 Speaker 5: higher priority of getting out of than the Middle East, 430 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:08,479 Speaker 5: although we don't want any, you know, no more regime 431 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 5: change in the Middle East and press Trump's kind of 432 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 5: a great job of that, in fact, telling the Israelis 433 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 5: were shutting down Gaza. Are we getting sucked into this 434 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 5: moment by moment and we're getting sucked in by Putin? 435 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 10: Well, it's difficult to know. I don't think Putin is 436 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,639 Speaker 10: trying to suck America in. I think it's Ukraine, and 437 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:30,200 Speaker 10: it's not really in Putin's interest to get you guys. 438 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:35,120 Speaker 8: Sucked in, but you are getting sucked into this war. 439 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 10: And in answer to your question is to how to 440 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 10: de escalate the situation and to de escalate America's involvement 441 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 10: in this situation. Really, President Trump, I think has to 442 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 10: fulfill his commitment in the campaign, which he now claims 443 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,239 Speaker 10: to have been sort of sarcasm. But many people who 444 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:54,200 Speaker 10: supported him in the in the election campaign didn't take 445 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:57,159 Speaker 10: our sarcasm and supported him for that. And that is 446 00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:01,199 Speaker 10: basically to withdraw the United States within twenty four hours. 447 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 10: If it's not possible, Steve for President Trump to act 448 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 10: as the peace boker here and negotiate a ceasefire, the 449 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 10: next best thing he can do is to stop this 450 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:16,160 Speaker 10: war continuing, and that is by stopping to supply one 451 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 10: of the two sides, which is to say Ukraine. Now, 452 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:22,160 Speaker 10: last week he did say that he was stopping some 453 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 10: weapons and some missiles, and he threw the justification to 454 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:32,360 Speaker 10: that to depleting US stockpiles, but it wasn't a total 455 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 10: closure of US provision. Of course, what he was going 456 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 10: to continue to provide or not hadn't been defined, and 457 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 10: it looks as if what he is going to continue 458 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:45,159 Speaker 10: to supply is the Patriot missiles. This is not a 459 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:49,479 Speaker 10: de escalatory path, Steve. That's the issue here. This is 460 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 10: not a de escalatory path. If President Trump really wants 461 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 10: to achieve peace, then you know it's America that is 462 00:24:58,320 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 10: keeping this war going, right. 463 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 8: I think President. 464 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 10: Trump has to fulfill what he said he would do 465 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 10: in the campaign. Stop arming Ukraine definitively, and then the 466 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 10: Ukrainians will see since when they realized that that. 467 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 8: The munitions, but we're just stop committed. But I negotiate. 468 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:16,359 Speaker 5: But he tried. He tried. By the way, I'm gonna 469 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:18,920 Speaker 5: have to go back to the We're gonna go back 470 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 5: to Kerville and the next thing. Then we got real, 471 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 5: I need you to stick around because I've got to 472 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 5: drill down more. President Trump had the conversation with Putin 473 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 5: and then that night they unleashed the worst bombardment on 474 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 5: the KIV after the President said, hey, I need you. 475 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:36,399 Speaker 5: It was like BB hitting the the Persians after they 476 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:39,639 Speaker 5: announced the ceasefire, and then Putin announced us to Trump 477 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:41,399 Speaker 5: on the call, Hey I just want to do this 478 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:45,239 Speaker 5: by lotterly. I don't need your involvement. They've jammed. They 479 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 5: put the President United States, who's trying to be a 480 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 5: peacemaker and try to be fair to both sides. They 481 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:54,200 Speaker 5: put him in a terrible situation, just a terrible situation 482 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:56,639 Speaker 5: for the simple fact of after you have a conversation 483 00:25:56,760 --> 00:26:00,400 Speaker 5: with him and then you do the biggest bombardment. Anyway, Ben, 484 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:02,640 Speaker 5: hang on, I'm gonna get to you after the eleven o'clock. 485 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:05,640 Speaker 5: Our very jammed. Today. We're going to go to Rio 486 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 5: for the Bricks conference. We got a press conference coming 487 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:12,680 Speaker 5: up from Kerrville. We have Peter Theal and Doctor Chambers. 488 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 5: Not that Peter Theal, but the head of operations one 489 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 5: of the rescue groups is going to be with us. 490 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 5: And we also have Doc Chambers from last night, the 491 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:25,360 Speaker 5: former the retired lieutenant colonel, and the Green Berets all 492 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:28,400 Speaker 5: down there on search and rescue and helping folks out. 493 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 5: We're going to take a short commercial break. Bursch Gold, 494 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 5: take your phone out. Text Bannon at nine eight Get 495 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:39,399 Speaker 5: the Ultimate Guide for investing in gold and Precious Metals 496 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:41,960 Speaker 5: in the Age of Trump. This is a quick study 497 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,959 Speaker 5: to get you all the fundamentals of the methodologies of 498 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 5: how you invest in gold. Short commercial break. We're going 499 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 5: to return to the war room on the Guadalupe River. 500 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 14: Next by Freedoms, last the Mary. 501 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:01,920 Speaker 8: Use your host, Stephen K. 502 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:08,920 Speaker 5: Bat Okay, let's go down back to Doc Chambers. Doc, 503 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 5: we had you on last night before the press conference. 504 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:14,879 Speaker 5: Press conference, good information, kind of depressing. Can you give 505 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 5: us an update on where we are in search and rescue? 506 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 6: Sir Roger That, Yeah, we had over two hundred and 507 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 6: sixty rescues yesterday. This is a positive note. Obviously, we're 508 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 6: looking at one hundred and some of those were hoists, 509 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:31,400 Speaker 6: so this is what we call a JP jungle penetrator type. 510 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:33,960 Speaker 6: The old comes down from the helicopter with a operator 511 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:38,359 Speaker 6: at the bottom of the line. Somebody pulls them up 512 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 6: through the tree line. Because this is triple canopy in someplace, 513 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:45,159 Speaker 6: there's lots of foliage in the area. So that's a 514 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 6: positive note. Unfortunately, you do have to report that we're 515 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 6: at about twenty four right now unconfirmed, twenty four to 516 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 6: twenty six deaths reported expected to rise till twenty five 517 00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:58,560 Speaker 6: missing expected to rise, but we're nearing those numbers down 518 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:01,399 Speaker 6: as we speak, so those are just unconfirmed that they 519 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:02,920 Speaker 6: are close to the right numbers. 520 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:07,119 Speaker 5: What is of the twenty five? What's the status of 521 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 5: the Mystic Girls camp They were saying last night twenty 522 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 5: to twenty three. Is that still an accurate number that 523 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 5: had not been the search and rescue had not located. 524 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 5: Is that still been accounting? 525 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 7: We have. 526 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 6: No because over the ninth we were reporting all the 527 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,720 Speaker 6: way through zero three hundred. This morning, yeah, there were 528 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:28,240 Speaker 6: about seven that I saw that were sent to me. 529 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 6: I have not got those numbers yet. I'm on my 530 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 6: way to Mystic. We've had a lot of stops along 531 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 6: the way. Understand, this is still going on. It's the 532 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 6: Geen area, Lake mcqueeney. Is that there's a deluge of 533 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 6: rain down from us, so it's adding to the problem set. 534 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 6: But we're controlling what we can here and then we'll 535 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 6: continue to move to that location. But first I'll hit 536 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 6: Mystic and be out there conducting some support out there, 537 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:52,240 Speaker 6: ministry support with some of the families. 538 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 5: Let's bring a peat teal. Hang on, doc, let's got 539 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,440 Speaker 5: a peat teal from the minute Man disaster relief I 540 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 5: think joins us by phone. Oh no, there we have him, Pete. 541 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 5: Can you give us an update on a disaster relief, 542 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 5: search and rescue, anything you know. 543 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 16: I agree with what what the previous guy said. I 544 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:16,440 Speaker 16: was at the operations center there were they were did 545 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:20,160 Speaker 16: the operational briefing this morning. I don't have any additional 546 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 16: numbers to what he said. Those are are in line 547 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 16: with what I'm aware of. 548 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 5: When you say in line, this is I just the 549 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 5: question last night I think they said. I think they 550 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 5: reported at Mystic, at the Bubble End or one of 551 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,720 Speaker 5: the sub camps at Mystic, that there were twenty to 552 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 5: twenty three nine year old girls. Is that was last night? 553 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 5: Not the correct answer. That's what the media is been, 554 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 5: that that had been unaccounted for. Where there are there 555 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 5: still twentys this morning. 556 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 16: I don't want to say that definitively because I can't 557 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 16: tell you sure, but yes, that is my understanding. I 558 00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 16: was an eight nine year old camp and a couple 559 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,120 Speaker 16: of the the camp buildings were swept away. Is what 560 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 16: I understand. 561 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 5: What is search and rescue still going on? Correct? 562 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:12,160 Speaker 16: Yes it is right now. I believe I'm probably on 563 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 16: the same highway as Lieutenant Colonel is. There are a 564 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 16: number of state police and ambulances, number of game warden 565 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,280 Speaker 16: trucks just ro by me here while I was talking 566 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 16: with you. The sturch and rescue is still going on, 567 00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,160 Speaker 16: although I think at this point it might be more 568 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 16: recovery than the search and rescue. 569 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 5: Unfortunately, where how tough has this search and rescue been? 570 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 5: Given the the biblical nature of this flash flood? How 571 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:40,960 Speaker 5: tough has it been? Pete Teal. 572 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 16: I have not been involved in the search and rescue personally, 573 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 16: but just trying to turn around in a truck. The mud, 574 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:57,080 Speaker 16: the mud and muck is is unbelievable. The level of damage. 575 00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 16: I I this is like a hurricane. There are thousands 576 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:07,200 Speaker 16: of trees that have been stripped, there are mattresses in trees. 577 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 16: There's the height of the flood level. This is unbelievable. 578 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:18,400 Speaker 16: They have been using jeeps, they've been using dogs as 579 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:20,720 Speaker 16: much as they can with the mud. I mean, every 580 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:25,320 Speaker 16: asset is being used. There was an offer this morning 581 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:27,960 Speaker 16: from a group that has assessed the three thirty seven 582 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:31,720 Speaker 16: with search and rescue package with infrared and everything. I 583 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,760 Speaker 16: don't know if that's coming over, but every asset the 584 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:37,280 Speaker 16: state has, I believe, has been pushed here. The number 585 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,520 Speaker 16: at the staging area, the incidente command post that we're 586 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 16: probably three hundred vehicles of people that are here that 587 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 16: are state officials rather than just volunteers that we're for 588 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 16: search and rescue. The magnitude of the response from the 589 00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 16: State of Texas is amazing. This is what makes America 590 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:55,960 Speaker 16: great is that people come help each other. 591 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:02,480 Speaker 5: Dot Chambers one of the questions last night about people 592 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:05,640 Speaker 5: being notified, and one of the officials said that, hey, 593 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:09,000 Speaker 5: this area has a history of flooding in your memory, 594 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 5: is this the biggest has happened recently? Twenty years, thirty years? 595 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:15,239 Speaker 5: The biggest in memory? I mean, how big is this 596 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:20,480 Speaker 5: compared to other events that this area has had the Guadalupe. 597 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:25,560 Speaker 6: River great question, twenty years, this is the highest one 598 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:28,600 Speaker 6: in record now, but understand this is the longest in 599 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:31,880 Speaker 6: the corridor of the Guadalupe. We're looking at probably seventy 600 00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,560 Speaker 6: miles as the crow flies, hundreds of miles one hundred 601 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,080 Speaker 6: and twenty miles of river as it curves. So we're 602 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 6: looking at all those low laning areas. And remember all 603 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:42,520 Speaker 6: these camps that were plussed up for Fourth of July holiday, 604 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:46,320 Speaker 6: that was the evacuation problem set and now when we're 605 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 6: spreading those forces thin as Pete was mentioning I'm out 606 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 6: here with them, and these guys are running up and 607 00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:53,920 Speaker 6: down the roads. So are civilian groups. You know, the 608 00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:56,560 Speaker 6: Cajun navies coming in from Louisiana. There's some great folks. 609 00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,160 Speaker 6: This is what we're dealing with. The thermals are the 610 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 6: key for the night time and daytime. The problem set 611 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,040 Speaker 6: for some of these areas further down is the is 612 00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 6: the amount of rain that they're still receiving, deluge of 613 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:10,640 Speaker 6: rain over Lake mcqueeney so that they won't be able 614 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:13,160 Speaker 6: to work there. But from their back yes, there will 615 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:15,960 Speaker 6: be up with those fixed wing and rotary wings. 616 00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 5: Doc Chambers, where do people your sit reps have been amazing? 617 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 5: Where do people go that weren't in the audience last night? 618 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 5: Where do people go to keep up with this? Understanding? 619 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:28,560 Speaker 5: Your heading up to the mystic camp right now? So 620 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:31,240 Speaker 5: how do people keep in touch with you on social 621 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:34,400 Speaker 5: media to get your sit reps? Affirmative? 622 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:34,600 Speaker 16: Sir? 623 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,440 Speaker 6: Well, what you look is Doc Pete Chambers on X 624 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:41,640 Speaker 6: and then I have the Remnant Ministry TX dot org. 625 00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:46,040 Speaker 6: That's what we'll be totally posting things as where well, 626 00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:48,320 Speaker 6: but on X is the primary right now. I'll be 627 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:52,600 Speaker 6: doing probably probably every couple hours as I can. Just 628 00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:54,440 Speaker 6: a short thirty second spot. 629 00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:59,640 Speaker 5: Okay, perfect, thank you, we'll post those up and make 630 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:05,680 Speaker 5: sure we stream thank you, Doc, appreciate you, yeah, pe 631 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:07,840 Speaker 5: teel before we let you go. Anything to make our 632 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:10,480 Speaker 5: audience smart as the day they look at social media 633 00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:14,120 Speaker 5: or continue to follow the stream here on Real America's Voice. 634 00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:16,440 Speaker 5: Anything to make us smart about how this search and 635 00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:17,880 Speaker 5: rescue is going, Sir. 636 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,520 Speaker 16: I don't have anything in particular. Miniman Disaster Response is 637 00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:25,800 Speaker 16: an all volunteer group that helps people clean up after 638 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:30,160 Speaker 16: major events. We have not done a full deployment yet. 639 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:32,439 Speaker 16: We're down here assessing the situation to see if we'll 640 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:36,840 Speaker 16: be going. So, I mean, just the the level of 641 00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:42,839 Speaker 16: damage here is is just it's overwhelming. But I we 642 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:44,839 Speaker 16: don't have a public web page where we put sit 643 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,719 Speaker 16: reps on. Uh, so I can't add on that. 644 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:51,800 Speaker 5: Do you have do you have social media? You guys 645 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:55,560 Speaker 5: on Twitter, We're on Facebook. 646 00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:58,520 Speaker 16: I believe we're on Instagram. It should be this Mini 647 00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:03,640 Speaker 16: Man Disaster Response. I don't know about Twitter. Kay, Well, just. 648 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,680 Speaker 5: We'll send everybody over well, so that's okay. We'll send 649 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:11,280 Speaker 5: everybody over to your Facebook or your your Instagram Pete, 650 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:12,799 Speaker 5: thank you so much for joining us. I know you're 651 00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:14,840 Speaker 5: busy this morning, so thank you for taking a few minutes. 652 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:16,960 Speaker 16: Yep, thank you. Goodbye. 653 00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:21,000 Speaker 5: There'll be a press conference at There will be a 654 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:24,759 Speaker 5: press conference at at eleven o'clock eastern daylight time. We 655 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,000 Speaker 5: will jump into that and get some updates on this. 656 00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:31,320 Speaker 5: Jason Jones is down there, the congressman trip where is 657 00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:33,200 Speaker 5: down there? We'll get some other input in the second hour. 658 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,280 Speaker 5: Let's go to as soon as we get more information. 659 00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:39,600 Speaker 5: Obviously we'll inform everybody. Let's go to Brazil to Rio. 660 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,480 Speaker 5: You know, yesterday on Drudge for the entire day of 661 00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:47,240 Speaker 5: fourth of July until late in the day after President 662 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:50,680 Speaker 5: Trump signed the signed the big beautiful bill and had 663 00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:55,120 Speaker 5: this amazing ceremony Philip Patrick. The headline the Drudge lead 664 00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:59,600 Speaker 5: was dollar has worst opening six months I think in 665 00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:02,800 Speaker 5: history twenty years, you know, the drop of the dollar. 666 00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:05,520 Speaker 5: You're at the conference, and I'm sure that came from 667 00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:09,479 Speaker 5: the d dollarsation movement of Brooks. What exactly has gone 668 00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:13,520 Speaker 5: on down in real What are the bricks Nations organizing? 669 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:15,359 Speaker 5: We're getting ready to kick off this conference. You've been 670 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:17,040 Speaker 5: down for a couple of days get us up to speed. 671 00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:22,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, look, it's interesting. It's hustle and bustle. We've been out. 672 00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:28,120 Speaker 3: We're watching dinners between Chlie's delegates and Brazilian real estate developers. 673 00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:31,600 Speaker 3: Deals are happening all over the place. The dollar is 674 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:35,320 Speaker 3: certainly a topic of conversation, as you rightly point out, 675 00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:38,480 Speaker 3: a worst start for the year since nineteen seventy three, 676 00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:41,719 Speaker 3: since we came off the gold standard, dollars lost ten 677 00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:44,719 Speaker 3: and a half percent of its purchasing power, So you 678 00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:48,280 Speaker 3: know it's looking primed for the bricks and their plans 679 00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:51,920 Speaker 3: longer term. We had a very interesting interview with an 680 00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:57,160 Speaker 3: economics professor yesterday heavily involved in the bricks leadership, and 681 00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:01,799 Speaker 3: learn a lot in that conversation about different motivations for 682 00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:06,680 Speaker 3: different bricks companies countries, sorry, particularly Brazil. So there is 683 00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:12,239 Speaker 3: a feeling here of excitement and that things are moving forward. 684 00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:19,680 Speaker 5: Is explained to the audience. We know during Biden's time, 685 00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:22,439 Speaker 5: is this flow over from Biden? Because President Trump puts 686 00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:25,239 Speaker 5: out the big, beautiful built and clearly it has some 687 00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:27,480 Speaker 5: defenits in there. They've asked for a five tree dollars, 688 00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:31,840 Speaker 5: a lift to the to the debt, ceiling, But the 689 00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:35,000 Speaker 5: global capital markets kind of took this. The ten year 690 00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:39,480 Speaker 5: treasuries slightly down, Gold's been kind of stable, the stock 691 00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:42,600 Speaker 5: market's on a run again. Why explain to the audience 692 00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:47,120 Speaker 5: why does the dollar keep losing value relatives some of 693 00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:49,239 Speaker 5: these other currencies, Because this is one of the things 694 00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:51,320 Speaker 5: the bricks are saying. If we can't do another currency, 695 00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:54,239 Speaker 5: we've got to figure out some way to dedollarize, Right, 696 00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:57,080 Speaker 5: We've got to get away from the dollar being the 697 00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:01,640 Speaker 5: center of world currency trade. So why has the dollar 698 00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:05,200 Speaker 5: contained terry? Why have we had the worst six months 699 00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:07,640 Speaker 5: since we came off the gold standard under Nixon? 700 00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:10,960 Speaker 3: Look, I think there's a number of reasons. Right. It 701 00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:14,440 Speaker 3: started in twenty twenty two with Biden's weaponization of the dollar, 702 00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:17,239 Speaker 3: and ultimately it showed nations around the world that they 703 00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:20,360 Speaker 3: have risk. But I think what I'm learning here is 704 00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:25,120 Speaker 3: people misunderstand what the bricks really are. Right. The argument 705 00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:28,080 Speaker 3: that I always hear is, look, they're not politically aligned, right, 706 00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:33,120 Speaker 3: India and Trya can't agree on anything. And the sort 707 00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:35,680 Speaker 3: of acceptance of that on the ground I mentioned. I 708 00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:39,360 Speaker 3: was interviewing an economics professor and he said, look, you 709 00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:42,120 Speaker 3: know the idea of viewing them as a political unit 710 00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:43,920 Speaker 3: is the wrong way to look at it. They are 711 00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:46,080 Speaker 3: not a block, right. They don't have a chairman, they 712 00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:48,480 Speaker 3: don't have a CEO, they don't have a board of directors, 713 00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:51,560 Speaker 3: and importantly they don't have agenders to vote on. What 714 00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:54,560 Speaker 3: they are instead is a group of countries that have 715 00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:58,200 Speaker 3: come together to basically help one another out right with trade, 716 00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:02,680 Speaker 3: development projects and love. There's a feeling here of mutual 717 00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:06,200 Speaker 3: cooperation because I think on the whole Bricks nations feel 718 00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:09,360 Speaker 3: snubbed by the West and now they with China leading 719 00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:11,640 Speaker 3: the way, they have a lot of clout. Remember they've 720 00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:14,800 Speaker 3: got bigger GDP now than the G seven. So they're 721 00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:18,680 Speaker 3: not politically aligned, but they are aligned in one area 722 00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,480 Speaker 3: and that is and this is a direct quote from 723 00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:25,240 Speaker 3: the from the professor himself, and he was not anti Western, 724 00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:27,600 Speaker 3: I want to be very clear. But the aim here 725 00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:30,720 Speaker 3: in their mind is to diminish power of the West. 726 00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:34,600 Speaker 3: And it was very shocking to hear until he started 727 00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:38,840 Speaker 3: to explain the background right and from an inside of 728 00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:41,960 Speaker 3: Bricks perspective, it started to make a lot more sense, 729 00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:45,160 Speaker 3: and that is that BRICKS members want different things. Right 730 00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:48,239 Speaker 3: for China, it's all about power, right. They don't want 731 00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:51,560 Speaker 3: a direct economic war with the West or Europe. They 732 00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:53,359 Speaker 3: still do a lot of business with US, but they 733 00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:55,640 Speaker 3: do want to become a global leader, and they do 734 00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:58,400 Speaker 3: want to recover Taiwan. The question is how much of 735 00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:01,200 Speaker 3: their wealth do they want tai up in US dollars 736 00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:04,440 Speaker 3: when they try that. So they're very motivated to break 737 00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:09,439 Speaker 3: dollar dominance. For Russia, it's about economic security from sanctions. Right. 738 00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:12,400 Speaker 3: For Brazil, in his mind, it was a little more nuanced. Right. 739 00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:17,160 Speaker 3: They still harbor resentments about deals offered by the IMF 740 00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:20,000 Speaker 3: when they were struggling in the eighties and nineties, essentially 741 00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:24,360 Speaker 3: loans with too many strings attached. Right. Those difficult experiences 742 00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:28,240 Speaker 3: during times of crises, I think make them open to alternatives. 743 00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:32,880 Speaker 3: They see themselves, as the professor himself says, as a 744 00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:35,719 Speaker 3: bridge between the global north and south, right, to act 745 00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:39,120 Speaker 3: as a moderator, balancing between China and the West. This 746 00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:42,880 Speaker 3: is basically their opportunity to seize a global role. The 747 00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:47,080 Speaker 3: point being they all want different things that they united 748 00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:47,560 Speaker 3: around the. 749 00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:52,520 Speaker 5: Common hang on, hang on one second, that common purpose 750 00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:56,680 Speaker 5: is diminished to West sharp break Philip Patrick Coromrio. 751 00:40:56,440 --> 00:41:01,680 Speaker 8: Next Warrior confuse your host. 752 00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:09,760 Speaker 5: Stephen k Maat, Okay, thank you. We were covering Rio Curville, Texas. 753 00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:11,360 Speaker 5: We're gonna go there momentary are going to be a 754 00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:14,920 Speaker 5: press conference. We're also covering the kickoff to the Great 755 00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:18,880 Speaker 5: Election Integrity Conference. They heard Hotel Mett Mech and the 756 00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:21,920 Speaker 5: team in Las Vegas. I'll be giving the closing remarks 757 00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:26,040 Speaker 5: tonight eight to eight thirty Eastern daylight time five five 758 00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:31,000 Speaker 5: thirty out there in Las Vegas. Also we have Philip 759 00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:34,640 Speaker 5: Patrick and Rio. So Philip, the mechanisms that they're talking about, 760 00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:36,800 Speaker 5: we understand they want to diminish the power of the West, 761 00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:40,560 Speaker 5: although they each have individual agendas. We also understand although 762 00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:43,239 Speaker 5: the black hand of the Chinese Commis parties in back 763 00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:47,719 Speaker 5: of this, we understand that they are not fans of 764 00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:51,320 Speaker 5: the US dollar being the prime reserve currency for many reasons. 765 00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:54,200 Speaker 5: So what are the mechanisms that you're hearing the conferences 766 00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:57,080 Speaker 5: A couple of days, you're in breakout sessions, You're getting 767 00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:00,680 Speaker 5: you know, interviews with the top people there. What are 768 00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:03,680 Speaker 5: you learning about the mechanisms of how Because the audience 769 00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:06,600 Speaker 5: needs to understand this not just for the geopolitical and 770 00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:09,640 Speaker 5: geoeconomic direction of the country, but also for their own 771 00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:12,600 Speaker 5: personal financial use. Sir. 772 00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been very interesting, right. You know, for me, 773 00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:20,319 Speaker 3: it was always the plan was de dollarization. But what's 774 00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:23,120 Speaker 3: becoming clear is de dollarization isn't the plan. The plan 775 00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:25,719 Speaker 3: is to diminish the power of the West. That's the 776 00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:29,239 Speaker 3: ultimate endgame, and de dollarization is a means to an end. 777 00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:32,319 Speaker 3: But you see it clearly when you look at the 778 00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:35,440 Speaker 3: systems that they've created, because the systems are set up 779 00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:39,839 Speaker 3: to combat their weaknesses. For example, the bricks don't have 780 00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:43,160 Speaker 3: political unity, right, there's a lack of mutual trust between 781 00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:46,279 Speaker 3: their governments and their central banks. So what are they doing? 782 00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:50,200 Speaker 3: Massive central bank gold buying. Remember last year gold has 783 00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:53,560 Speaker 3: become the number two global reserve asset, so gold is 784 00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:57,160 Speaker 3: replacing the dollar as a store of value in central 785 00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:01,680 Speaker 3: banks reserves. Essentially, gold is becoming the national savings account 786 00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:05,719 Speaker 3: if you will. Right, they need cross border trade, that 787 00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:10,080 Speaker 3: sanction and Western oversight resistance. What have they built? They 788 00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:15,160 Speaker 3: built swift alternatives, one open source, one propriety, firewalled from 789 00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:20,239 Speaker 3: US control. They want to use local currencies for trade, right, 790 00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:24,080 Speaker 3: but they don't want to keep them right enter Mbridge. 791 00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:27,720 Speaker 3: This is a digital clearing and settlement network which allows 792 00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:32,040 Speaker 3: nations to trade in currencies local currencies, but then settle 793 00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:36,319 Speaker 3: trade imbalances with gold. Right, the idea being Russia doesn't 794 00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:38,480 Speaker 3: want a pile of rupees or rand at the end 795 00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:41,840 Speaker 3: of the year, so they use currencies and they settle 796 00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:46,600 Speaker 3: in gold bullion, zero trust required, So gold essentially becomes 797 00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:50,520 Speaker 3: the savings accounts and national currencies become the checking accounts. 798 00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:54,800 Speaker 3: Cost border trade becomes easier once they've sold the currency problem. 799 00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:58,200 Speaker 3: And what are we starting to see? Massive bilateral trade 800 00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:02,160 Speaker 3: deals happening in local currentencies. What happens is that one 801 00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:05,880 Speaker 3: by one they chip away at the dollar's primary source 802 00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:09,480 Speaker 3: of demand. And guess what we're seeing it already, Like 803 00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:13,759 Speaker 3: I said, numerous bilateral trade agreements signed in local currencies. 804 00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:17,360 Speaker 3: This was unheard of a few years ago. Now, I 805 00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:20,319 Speaker 3: don't see this as being a binary situation. I don't 806 00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:22,800 Speaker 3: think on July eighth the world's going to be turned 807 00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:25,880 Speaker 3: upside down. But what I do think is the combination 808 00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:29,600 Speaker 3: of fewer dollars in national checking accounts, fewer dollars in 809 00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:34,080 Speaker 3: national savings accounts combined, they erode the dollars dominance on 810 00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:37,239 Speaker 3: a global scale, and that slowly opens the door for 811 00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:41,320 Speaker 3: longer term dollar destruction and for an alternative to appear. 812 00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:46,040 Speaker 5: People need to understand goal as a hedge against that, 813 00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:50,160 Speaker 5: not just nations and central bankers, but also individuals. 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I know you're jammed down 824 00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:18,200 Speaker 5: in Rio. You've got meetings for the next couple of days. 825 00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:20,960 Speaker 5: Will be back on Monday. If something pops big, will 826 00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:25,080 Speaker 5: get you up streaming live tomorrow. But how do people 827 00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:28,000 Speaker 5: I just want people understand when they come to Birch Gold, 828 00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:30,280 Speaker 5: how do they interact with you and your team? Because 829 00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:32,520 Speaker 5: the people that have over the last three or four 830 00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:35,680 Speaker 5: years since we've been working with you guys, are always 831 00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:38,080 Speaker 5: a static about the customer service. How you guys take 832 00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:41,280 Speaker 5: time and explain them Iras for one, k's all the methodologies. 833 00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:44,600 Speaker 5: How do people build a relationship with Birch Gold. 834 00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:48,120 Speaker 3: Look, it's really simple. Get the information first. It is 835 00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:50,640 Speaker 3: so important for us, is why they ship me off 836 00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:53,120 Speaker 3: to Rio to come and get as much information as 837 00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:56,279 Speaker 3: I can. So Birch goold dot com forward slash ban 838 00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:59,600 Speaker 3: and that'll get access to to all the written information 839 00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:02,680 Speaker 3: as you mentioned, end of the Dollar Empire guides on 840 00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:06,080 Speaker 3: how and why to invest under a Trump administration. From there, 841 00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:08,560 Speaker 3: they're going to have access to myself and people like 842 00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:12,640 Speaker 3: me knowledgeable on the subject. There it can help sort 843 00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:15,960 Speaker 3: of guide through, answer any questions and just make this easy. 844 00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:19,040 Speaker 3: I think an informed customer is a customer that makes 845 00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:23,840 Speaker 3: the right decision. So it's not simple, now, you know. 846 00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:28,839 Speaker 5: I'm really proud. Bloomberg Television, the Wall Street Journal, CNBC, 847 00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:31,800 Speaker 5: nobody has had the conversation as you just had about 848 00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:34,800 Speaker 5: what you're seeing there with the trade deals of Biletter 849 00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:37,360 Speaker 5: trade deals. We're not just breaking news. We're giving the 850 00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:42,680 Speaker 5: audience inside baseball on really the core of global capitalism, right, 851 00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:46,520 Speaker 5: capital markets, particularly of what's going to happen and really proud. 852 00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:49,400 Speaker 5: I'm so glad that we'd made the decision collectively to 853 00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:52,279 Speaker 5: have you guys go down and do interviews of meet people. 854 00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:54,400 Speaker 5: So I think it's turning out quite well giving the 855 00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:56,920 Speaker 5: information you're already garnering ahead of the market. 856 00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:00,640 Speaker 3: Thank you for the opportunity, Steve, I'm glad to be 857 00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:01,279 Speaker 3: thank you. 858 00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:06,879 Speaker 5: No, it's not the price of gold, sir, it's the process. Hey, 859 00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:09,160 Speaker 5: you get to the price. Remember gold's about value, not 860 00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:12,600 Speaker 5: about price. Philip Patrick, thank you so much, honor. Have 861 00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:15,960 Speaker 5: you on here, smart move. We made that decision months 862 00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:17,800 Speaker 5: and months and months ago. It's turned out well. You 863 00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:20,640 Speaker 5: knew the information who he's meeting with, and you'll get 864 00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:22,840 Speaker 5: you'll get all the information when you go to Bush Gold. 865 00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:25,440 Speaker 5: Make sure you go either take your phone out, text 866 00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:28,080 Speaker 5: Bannon nine eight nine eight nine eight. You may contact 867 00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:31,640 Speaker 5: with Philipatrian team. He's also opened Getter. He's also open Getter, 868 00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:34,279 Speaker 5: so he can go to Getter, DM him there or 869 00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:36,920 Speaker 5: go to get the end of the Dollar Empire. We're 870 00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:39,439 Speaker 5: going to have a new eighth installment coming out after Rio. 871 00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:44,920 Speaker 5: The seventh three installment is the Rio Reset. As you 872 00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:48,480 Speaker 5: see what's happening right now, the bricks nations coming together. 873 00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:51,440 Speaker 5: Their number one thing they got to figure out is 874 00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:53,560 Speaker 5: how to take power away from the West. That means 875 00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:56,120 Speaker 5: the United States of America and how to take power 876 00:47:56,120 --> 00:48:01,320 Speaker 5: away from the United States dollar. 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