1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:04,160 Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, you want experience during your football season, 2 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 1: We'll buckle up. 3 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 2: Sweet cheeks. 4 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:13,040 Speaker 1: We've got all the experience in the world. This is 5 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:17,079 Speaker 1: I want your Flex with Dan Bayer and Mike Harmon. 6 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 1: Mike and Dan break down everything you need to set 7 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 1: your lineups, from position rankings. 8 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:24,120 Speaker 2: To starts and sits. 9 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 1: The guys help you make those hard decisions. And now 10 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 1: let's get your flex on. 11 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 2: Here's Dan Bayer and Mike Harmon, welcome in. It is 12 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:39,880 Speaker 2: I want your flex. 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Many leagues had playoffs this week, 17 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 2: and the Eagle Seahawks Monday nighter sure brought some fantasy 18 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 2: value to the table because there was probably some Jalen 19 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:06,039 Speaker 2: Hurts plays, you know, there was some DeAndre Swift plays. 20 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 2: You're playing the Eagles wide receivers, and very even opened 21 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:11,559 Speaker 2: that maybe some of the Seahawks receivers, even with Drew 22 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 2: Locke Mike at quarterback, could have some luck. I know, 23 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 2: the fantasy fruitfulness of what they had in Seattle on 24 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 2: Monday night wasn't there for everyone, but there's still were 25 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:22,680 Speaker 2: points to be had by some of the bigger names. 26 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you still found your way to the 27 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:25,320 Speaker 3: end zone. 28 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 2: You know. 29 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:29,960 Speaker 4: Obviously the big play to JSN to close it out 30 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 4: had great ramifications. A lot of close games across the 31 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 4: fantasy land. I know, Smith and I were on Aaron 32 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:40,960 Speaker 4: doing our show and we own co owned two teams 33 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 4: in these leagues. Our guy Michael Fabiano runs and one 34 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 4: of them is the Dynasty one, and that's the one 35 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 4: Jason's taking the heavy lifting on, and after a complete 36 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 4: teardown in the playoffs, ended up winning by half a point. 37 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 2: Wow, catch geez. 38 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 4: So literally, it's like they go to review and he's like, 39 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 4: he's got the second foot down. 40 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 2: Don't care. 41 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 4: Tell me they can reverse this, don't you dare. I'm like, 42 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 4: it's it stands, calm down. But it's like, so that 43 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 4: point five five point victory, baby. 44 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 2: After what happening to Calvin Ridley one? Oh yeah, you 45 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 2: never know what's gonna happen. 46 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 4: Well, I mean, or if you're a Justin Field's owner 47 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 4: and you have say either a hail Mary that should 48 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:26,800 Speaker 4: be caught, or you have a first quarter touchdown to 49 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:29,519 Speaker 4: your tight end who flat out and drops it down. 50 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 4: I mean like there's a lot lots of those left 51 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:34,080 Speaker 4: on the field each and every week. Javonte Williams, I'm 52 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:36,640 Speaker 4: still looking for my six points from my guillotine start 53 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 4: of him. So I don't feel so bad about the 54 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:43,799 Speaker 4: decisions that I made based on projections and looking at 55 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 4: the trying to read the tea leaves. But you know, 56 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:49,679 Speaker 4: coming out of this game, obviously there's a lot broken 57 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 4: from the Eagles offensive side of things. You know, Jalen 58 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 4: Hurts in his post game even talking about commitment and 59 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 4: questioning commitment, would ask what he meant by that. 60 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 3: He goes, I don't have a dictionary here, Like, all right, 61 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 3: that's gonna be good for morale. 62 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:03,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, let's go. 63 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 4: And Matt Patricia, did anybody ask him why the safety 64 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 4: wasn't back there on the But you know, hey, whatever, 65 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 4: one hundred and forty three yards passing two picks, the 66 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 4: two rushing touchdowns, and and eighty two yards. Look, he 67 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 4: might have had a third rushing touchdown if you didn't 68 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 4: have that idiotic call on Kelsey Guy's been moving the 69 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 4: ball for a decade. But you know here we are 70 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 4: points of m emphasis this year, guys, because we saw 71 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:31,360 Speaker 4: that in the Denver game as well. But you know, 72 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 4: not to belabor that point, but former Denver quarterback Drew 73 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 4: Locke I actually spoken into existence. I did a big 74 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 4: thing about finding your destiny and winning and going one 75 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 4: to zero during the day, right, But what is he 76 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 4: took the ball with a what was it a minute 77 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 4: fifty two left and nearly doubled his passing yards. It 78 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 4: was good to see Kenneth Walker June or the third, 79 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 4: the third running with positive force once again because you know, 80 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 4: for fantasy purposes, Charbonade taken a little bit from the 81 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 4: snapcount and Walker hadn't been the same guy, so if 82 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 4: you had played him, you got rewarded for that. And 83 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 4: outside of that touchdown pass and it was twenty nine 84 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 4: of his forty eight yards on. 85 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:16,720 Speaker 3: The night JSN. Yeah, tough night. I mean Metcalf comes down. 86 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 4: It's twelve point eight in PPR leagues, which is serviceable 87 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 4: but not overwhelming. On the other side, obviously mentioned Hertz's yardage. 88 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 4: So you know, the three receivers, you would have thought 89 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:31,839 Speaker 4: had some Jews had nothing. Goddard was active early, finished 90 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:34,840 Speaker 4: with just four for thirty and then DeVante Smith and 91 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 4: AJ Brown were non factors. 92 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:39,159 Speaker 2: First, you had a couple of leagues that came down 93 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 2: to the end. One was with the JSN catch as well. 94 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 5: Right, Yes, So in my main league, I was watching 95 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:47,839 Speaker 5: what was going on in one of the playoff matchups, 96 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:51,160 Speaker 5: and yeah, one team had JSN, the other had AJ 97 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 5: Brown coming into tonight and they were going back and forth. 98 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 5: On that final drive. JSN caught a pass prior to 99 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 5: that on that drive, putting him up by a half 100 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:04,840 Speaker 5: a point, and then there was the touchdown catch. So yeah, 101 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:07,919 Speaker 5: that game was entirely determined by that final drive. It 102 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 5: was just wild. But on the flip side of it, 103 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 5: one of my friends who was also in that league 104 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:14,600 Speaker 5: was texting me about what happened to him in another 105 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 5: one of his leagues, and that was Jalen Hurts was 106 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:21,040 Speaker 5: his quarterback and he was going up against Kenneth Walker 107 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:25,600 Speaker 5: and Heurts' interception at the very end of the game 108 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:28,720 Speaker 5: put him down a point to lose that game and 109 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:30,280 Speaker 5: be eliminated from the playoffs. 110 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:33,480 Speaker 2: It was it was such a bad decision by Hertz 111 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 2: Sure to throw that pass. I mean, listen, I know 112 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 2: it's December and it's not September, but Nathaniel Hackett was 113 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 2: willing to kick a sixty four yard heard that one. 114 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:46,839 Speaker 2: He didn't need forty yards to chuck it downfield and 115 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 2: hope that maybe AJ Brown, who, by the way, I 116 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:53,160 Speaker 2: think we've learned right now. If Aj Brown isn't getting his, 117 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 2: he's not going to be locked in at the end 118 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 2: of the game. Sure, so why even attempt that. He 119 00:05:57,680 --> 00:05:59,159 Speaker 2: just needed to get to the forty though they just 120 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 2: needed fifteen more yards and that's all they needed. There 121 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:04,160 Speaker 2: was no there's no reason for that. There's no reason 122 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 2: for the Hurts previous interception, uh that that Julian Love had. 123 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 4: It was uh through it to Quez Watkins for one, 124 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 4: who if you look at the route he takes, not 125 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:16,480 Speaker 4: exactly busted his ass to get down to the end 126 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:19,359 Speaker 4: zone on the deep ball, and then I mean he got. 127 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 2: Interfered with him absolutely pretty pretty. 128 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 4: Basic pass interference that gets And you're a Seahawks guy 129 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 4: and you gotta admit, I mean, there's a lot of handsiness, 130 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 4: but again you're Quez Watkins. You ain't getting a call. 131 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 4: But it goes back. I guess for fantasy purposes. Guys, 132 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:38,839 Speaker 4: you know you're looking at Jalen Hurts with one touchdown 133 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 4: pass his last three games. You got an offense that 134 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:44,600 Speaker 4: is uh broken, and I know he gets his love 135 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 4: on the ground. It's playoff time, it's winning time. I'm 136 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 4: doing a little bit of hand ringing here in terms 137 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:54,160 Speaker 4: of his his start on a week to week basis. 138 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 2: Can't quit it though, like you can't like you like 139 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 2: I've got a JB committee league. Yeah, there's there's no way. 140 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 2: And now I'm expecting they're going to try to make 141 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 2: up for lost times or try to write this ship 142 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 2: so they may overcompensate. You know. The Giants may be 143 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 2: in for one on you know, coming up on Christmas Day. 144 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 2: So that's that's how I'm looking at the Eagles situation 145 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 2: right now. 146 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 4: You know my love of the schedule right the Giant 147 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 4: sandwich with a taste like chicken, Arizona Cardinals in the middle. 148 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, Giants, Cardinals, Giants. These they have three opportunities to 149 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 2: get that passing game going. Deandres Swift, DeAndre Swift looks 150 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 2: fine to me. It just they get to the one 151 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 2: and then it's you know. 152 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, you get shoved you get no opportunity for any 153 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 4: of the glory touches. 154 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 2: Absolutely, I didn't think it was interesting. They ran that 155 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 2: end around though for the first time, like a different 156 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 2: look from that. It was really wasn't even an end around. 157 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 2: It's just to hand off the Smith around show left tackle. 158 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 2: But I don't know if they're just trying to if 159 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 2: they think that teams are going to catch on and 160 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 2: trying to give him a different look and have to 161 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 2: respect it. But actually thought it was a smart play 162 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 2: for them to do. But yeah, a lot, you know, 163 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 2: a lot happening. And heck, even I'll tell you what 164 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 2: even that even the Sunday night game for what you 165 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 2: have for the for the drama that we had guys 166 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 2: of you know, if you had Brandon McManus, he's missing 167 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 2: kicks up the Yin Yang. Yeah, you know, Trevor Lawrence 168 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 2: off you know, off beat. You know Keaton Mitchell awful injury, 169 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 2: you know for him, you're hoping and I mentioned that, 170 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 2: you know the Ridley touchdown earlier that was ended up 171 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 2: being called these are this is the stuff that happens. 172 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 2: This is the stuff that happens in Fantasy playoff time 173 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 2: that makes you remember it for years when there's certain calls, 174 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:45,719 Speaker 2: because quite honestly, you know, Jackson Smith and Jigwell will 175 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 2: now be remembered by whoever one year Fantasy league or 176 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:50,959 Speaker 2: lost year Fantasy league, just for that one play that 177 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:51,960 Speaker 2: he made on Monday night. 178 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:55,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, one of the members of my league, who the 179 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:59,079 Speaker 5: guy who lost to that JSN touchdown. He's he's been 180 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 5: going through it tonight and he's messaging and he reminded 181 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 5: me that the reason why he lost to me in 182 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:08,320 Speaker 5: a championship game years ago was because Deontay Johnson was 183 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 5: not looked to at all. On the Steelers' final drive 184 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 5: of how game, he. 185 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 4: Probably quit and walked away from a block or something, 186 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 4: so they froze him out. 187 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 5: He was all he needed was one catch for seven 188 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 5: yards to overtake me and win that championship game. And 189 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 5: it did not happen on that final drive. I forgot 190 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 5: that that's what happened. But it haunts my friend Steve 191 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 5: to this day. 192 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 3: So do you feel pretty good about that? I feel great, 193 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 3: Just like all of. 194 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:36,080 Speaker 4: Those near death experiences in the guillotine this year. Yes, 195 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 4: everybody hates you. 196 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 2: May hate you. I had a championship game. This is 197 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 2: probably about I could could look it up. It had 198 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 2: to be sometime twenty twenty twelve, twenty thirteen, twenty fourteen 199 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:56,559 Speaker 2: around that range. And the Broncos were playing the Bengals 200 00:09:57,040 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 2: on Monday night football, and and Peyton Manning was my quarterback. 201 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 2: But he kept throwing interceptions and so he would get 202 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 2: he would get, you know, so many yards, and then 203 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 2: he would throw a pick and I would be losing. Again. 204 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 2: He would get so many yards and I'd be winning, 205 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 2: and then he'd throw a pick and I'd be losing. 206 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 2: And it happened. And I kid you not. I can 207 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 2: look up the box score here in a bit. It's 208 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 2: it's one of the one of the matchups they had. 209 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 2: I swear he had. He was picked off three or 210 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 2: four times that night. But it is crazy like and 211 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:31,559 Speaker 2: and of course as time goes on, maybe embellish it. 212 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 2: Just like the fish you caught ten years ago is 213 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:36,080 Speaker 2: now you know, you know this bit it's a little 214 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 2: bit worse. Yeah, yeah, yeah, But I just I do 215 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 2: remember the back and forth of these late games. We're 216 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 2: gonna have him next week as well, in week sixteen, 217 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 2: and then a week seventeen in the championship. But we 218 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 2: have our regular league or my you know, my longtime 219 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 2: league that I talked About's the end of the regular season, 220 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:53,320 Speaker 2: so playoff berths are on the line this week, and 221 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 2: these are the things that you can remember. 222 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, it all comes back to get you. 223 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 4: Right, there's always that catch that wasn't and you start 224 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 4: thinking back of a tough loss even earlier in the season, 225 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 4: right week three, Week four, it's like, if that would 226 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 4: have gone right, or you know, whatever one lineup change 227 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 4: you didn't make. That's the beauty of it and the 228 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 4: agony of it. So you actually do get a little 229 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:18,559 Speaker 4: bit of that actual ownership slash coaching experience that you 230 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:21,719 Speaker 4: can then you know, kill yourself over and maybe you've 231 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 4: got friends and family that do their best to remind 232 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 4: you of him as well. 233 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's the worst, all right. So it was 234 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 2: twenty fourteen. The Broncos lost to the Bengals thirty seven 235 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 2: to twenty eight. Peyton Manning's stats on the night twenty 236 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:41,560 Speaker 2: eight to forty four, three hundred and eleven yards, two touchdowns, 237 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 2: four interceptions. I'm telling you that I knew it was bad. 238 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 2: I knew it wasn't good, but you just I mean, yeah, 239 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 2: it was what it just sticks sticks in your mind. 240 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:56,559 Speaker 2: Good times all right. Well, I don't even guys, I 241 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 2: gotta be honest, I don't even know if I should 242 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 2: be happier or sad as the Seahawks fan, you know, 243 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:04,959 Speaker 2: because this is great moment, how awesome ninety two yards 244 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:08,079 Speaker 2: drew lock here seven and seven, And then you think back, well, 245 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:10,560 Speaker 2: you probably should have beat the Rams, you know, whereas 246 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:13,559 Speaker 2: sure you know in that game, and now the Rams 247 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:16,960 Speaker 2: are sitting there with a tiebreaker over you, and you 248 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 2: the Rams have a situation now, quite honestly where they 249 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 2: can face the forty nine ers in week eighteen, and 250 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 2: the Niners will have nothing to play for, you know, 251 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:28,200 Speaker 2: and even though their rivals, I don't know how much 252 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 2: of your San Francisco, how much you want to put 253 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 2: on the line, which is something that we can dive 254 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 2: into in the podcast as well, because now the Niners 255 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 2: are sitting there, sitting pretty in the in the NFC 256 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 2: with that eleven and three mark and tiebreakers over both 257 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 2: of these squads, that both the Cowboys and Eagles. So 258 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 2: maybe the Lions make a push, who knows what ends 259 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 2: up happening, but yeah, just you know, as you look 260 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 2: as you look down the next couple of weeks. Now 261 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:00,200 Speaker 2: you're gonna have to start wondering about sitting players as well. 262 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:02,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, well we'll get into that because I mean the 263 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 4: forty nine Ers is interesting, right, the relationship with the coaches, 264 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:07,440 Speaker 4: and we go through all of that. But you know, 265 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 4: I just remind folks, you know, when you go down 266 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:13,079 Speaker 4: in those situations, like say it would be a situation 267 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 4: whereby a forty nine Ers loss, lets the rams in 268 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 4: Bears did that once upon a time with the Packers. 269 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 4: Packers won the Super Bowl. Sure, they came back and 270 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 4: beat him in the NFC Title Game, and then I 271 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 4: watched the Packers win the Super Bowl in Dallas, So 272 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 4: I've been there. 273 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:33,079 Speaker 3: I've seen that. 274 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:39,440 Speaker 2: Page Burch usually gives like the like yeah, like he 275 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 2: agrees as a Packers fan, that was like a hm, 276 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 2: it was like a higher octave. It was a higher 277 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:49,200 Speaker 2: notes as a packed Packers fan. Listening to Mike Carman 278 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:50,959 Speaker 2: talk about those. 279 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 5: Memories really h really acknowledging cnl mers. 280 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 2: Harvin's gonna have his waiver wire pickups for Week sixteen 281 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 2: coming up in a little bit. Also at some point, 282 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 2: whether it be this episode or the next, I'm curious 283 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 2: on who you guys think is the most important fantasy 284 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 2: player coming down the stretch. So put that in your hopper. 285 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 2: We'll think about that. Hit Mike up again at Swellendome, 286 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 2: find Ryan at Ryan Berschinger, and you can find me 287 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 2: at dan Byer on Fox. We look back at week 288 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 2: fifteen as a whole next year, and I want your flex. 289 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 2: All right, let's look at the rear view mirror. Hit 290 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 2: Mike up at Swellendome, find me at Dan Byer on Fox, 291 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 2: and of course the executive producers, Ryan Berschinger find him 292 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 2: at Ryan Berschinger. We can you know, trounce all the 293 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 2: way back to Thursday. Mike, you know, are we now 294 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 2: finding are we now finding value in the Raiders? Is 295 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 2: there any value to have in the Chargers? In the 296 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 2: game where there is eighty four points? It's kind of 297 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 2: crazy to think that just maybe one of the squads 298 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 2: just may not be worth dealing with for the rest 299 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 2: of the season. 300 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 4: Easton stick for your daily league because they've given up 301 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 4: because they got Buffalo coming to town. 302 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 3: This week. 303 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 4: Yes, right, so deeply Saturday night, Saturday night game. So 304 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 4: for day Fantasy, He's gonna keep chucking it and maybe 305 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 4: it's the Isaiah Spiller. 306 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 3: Time, not Miller times. Spiller time. We watched that. 307 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 4: I mean Austin Eckler had his five for nine yards 308 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 4: before things really went to hell, and that was the 309 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 4: end of it obviously the firing and change out of 310 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 4: everything there. But otherwise yeah, no, Joshua Palmer maybe, but 311 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 4: seventy nine is one hundred and thirteen yards came on 312 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 4: the one play broken coverage, standing by himself. 313 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, so you. 314 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 4: Know, in terms of value, no, I don't know that 315 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 4: I can trust really anybody in a straight fantasy setup 316 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 4: at this point on the Raiders side of things, za 317 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 4: mere White. If josh Jacobs can't go again, and you're 318 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 4: always gonna play Adams, but the other guys, no, I 319 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 4: man Jacoby Myers, Yeah, he got to have some fun 320 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 4: and whatever to catches thirty two yards Mayer is modern 321 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 4: interesting because the tight end positions have been such a cesspool. 322 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 3: But do you trust it? 323 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 4: Like this was the big breakout and it had to 324 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 4: happen in an absolute quit situation for the Chargers. Yeah, 325 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 4: trade Tucker's not going to run past everybody like he 326 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 4: did a disinterested Chargers secondary either, you. 327 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 2: Know, I think not from a Chargers perspective, but the 328 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 2: team talking about here A lot of times as you're 329 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 2: planning your lineup looking for the playoffs, you're like, Okay, 330 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 2: I want to get this guy, I want to get 331 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 2: this back up, want to handcuff this or figure it out. 332 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 2: The Chargers are just so downright depleted. At the most 333 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 2: important place is that you know there's diminishing returns at 334 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 2: every point. You were talking about Palmer's numbers being you know, 335 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 2: very misleading on how he accumulated his I just I 336 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 2: couldn't I couldn't trust anything with that. The flip side 337 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 2: of it with the Raiders, I don't know what to 338 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 2: trust either because of what happened against Minnesota and then 339 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 2: obviously it was completely different for what you had against 340 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:04,200 Speaker 2: the Chargers. And now you head on the road. You've 341 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 2: got the Chiefs who are playing for something. You've got 342 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 2: the Colts who are playing for something. Obviously the Raiders 343 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:12,679 Speaker 2: are playing for something. But I just don't know on 344 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 2: you know, where the value is theirs as you mentioned 345 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:18,679 Speaker 2: White in for the injured Josh Jacobs, but you know, 346 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:21,160 Speaker 2: like even you know Devanta Adams, who there's no way 347 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:22,920 Speaker 2: you can bench. I just don't know what you're gonna 348 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:25,880 Speaker 2: expect from the wide receiver considering what we've seen from 349 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 2: the Raiders these last two games. 350 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, from him, I'd be banking on back end too, 351 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 4: and just hope things break right right, that I get 352 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:38,679 Speaker 4: my volume and maybe I get my touchdown opportunity. But 353 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:41,439 Speaker 4: if nothing else, we know we're going to get our 354 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:44,879 Speaker 4: eight to twelve targets, and all we can hope for 355 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:48,639 Speaker 4: is opportunity. You know, because he's not an idiot like 356 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:51,159 Speaker 4: Josh McDaniels. Didn't he tell us that at the press 357 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 4: or in some kind of words like. 358 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 5: That, I'm still looking at the Chargers side of this 359 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 5: and just this collapse from Austin Eckler and just how 360 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:07,359 Speaker 5: terrible it is, Like it's it's really baffling. He just 361 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 5: simply doesn't look like the same running back. You look 362 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:12,880 Speaker 5: at the first half of the season he was carrying 363 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:14,920 Speaker 5: fantasy teams. Yeah, he was banged up in the first 364 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 5: couple of weeks, but then he had a he had 365 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:19,200 Speaker 5: a great run of a few games which reminded you 366 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 5: why you took him in the first round. And then 367 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 5: ever since Week eleven, he has finished outside of the 368 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:28,919 Speaker 5: top thirty, with the exception of the Broncos game a 369 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:32,239 Speaker 5: couple weeks ago. Every other week he's running back thirty one, 370 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 5: thirty three, thirty four. He was able to get into 371 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 5: the end zone against the Broncos, had five catches in 372 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 5: that game, so his points were there, but he still 373 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:43,200 Speaker 5: did not look like the same running back. And it's 374 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:46,160 Speaker 5: tough because you're looking at this schedule going all, right, Well, 375 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 5: it was the Raiders, like he's gonna play well against 376 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:50,719 Speaker 5: the Raiders, right, No, he was awful, And then the 377 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:53,439 Speaker 5: Bills and the Broncos again, like these are teams that 378 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 5: you can run on, But you can't feel good at 379 00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:59,479 Speaker 5: all about playing Eckler now because of just how poorly 380 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 5: he has looked. 381 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:03,919 Speaker 2: I know there's a lot to take from Saturday. I 382 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 2: think I don't think Denver's a good football team. I 383 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:10,160 Speaker 2: think that they are good enough to be where they 384 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:12,680 Speaker 2: are right now. I just I don't think that they're 385 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 2: a good football team. But I do feel that the 386 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 2: Lions kind of got some of their footing back. I'm curious. 387 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 2: This matchup that they've got against the Vikings coming up 388 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:26,879 Speaker 2: this weekend is so intriguing to me. But everybody is 389 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 2: feeding in Detroit. Everybody ate on Saturday night. I mean 390 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 2: it was golf, it was Laporta, it was Saint Brown, 391 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 2: it was Jamior Gibbs. I mean there was you know, 392 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:40,959 Speaker 2: all around everywhere. As we look back on the week, 393 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:44,399 Speaker 2: there was another takeaway from mine. Maybe the Bears just 394 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:47,119 Speaker 2: kind of have their number bike and maybe, you know, 395 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 2: the Bears are well. I shouldn't say maybe, because they 396 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 2: are better than They're better than they were the first 397 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 2: half of the season. Absolutely, one hundred percent. But it 398 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 2: also may be a certain number thing. But if you 399 00:19:57,560 --> 00:19:59,440 Speaker 2: have the Lions, you have the Cowboys coming up, which 400 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 2: I think could be an amazingly high scoring affair, even 401 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:06,440 Speaker 2: though these teams do have defenses that could get stops. 402 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:09,439 Speaker 2: I could totally see Dak throwing for three hundred yards 403 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:11,919 Speaker 2: and Jared Goff, you know, going toe to toe. I 404 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 2: love this Lions stretch, with this game against the Vikings indoors, 405 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 2: you know, so when they're going on the road, you're 406 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 2: still playing indoors and you're gonna play on the fast 407 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:24,159 Speaker 2: track with Dallas. But I loved what happened on Saturday night. 408 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 2: From anybody who has any shares on any Detroit Lions, 409 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:29,639 Speaker 2: just from that perspective. 410 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, they got they eight. 411 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:35,639 Speaker 4: As I steal the term from the kids, is for Denver, 412 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 4: the curiosity of, you know, three straight road games. I 413 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:43,160 Speaker 4: thought it'd be a close game and actually that maybe 414 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 4: they'd be able to gut one out, and instead they 415 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:47,920 Speaker 4: got run over, and all my buddies in Denver got 416 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 4: real quiet, right, They got really chesty when the Raiders 417 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 4: beat up on the Chargers, and then they went and 418 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 4: got absolutely housed in this one. So again, the schedule suck, 419 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 4: says it is. I hate this, you know division sandwich 420 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 4: division thing to end the season, based on the way 421 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 4: injuries and everything affected, but it is what it is. 422 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:11,880 Speaker 3: Opportunity here. 423 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:14,360 Speaker 4: You know, Minnesota will be aggressive, so to be curious, 424 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 4: can they get to golf? That was one thing Denver 425 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:19,879 Speaker 4: was not able to do right, clean pocket for Jared 426 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 4: Goff all day long, and the running backs really got 427 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 4: after it, both Gibbs and Montgomery, obviously Gibbs more so, 428 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:31,960 Speaker 4: but you're looking at, you know, a speed being the factor, 429 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 4: and for Jared Goff, pressure was off right. Bears did 430 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:38,400 Speaker 4: a good job of pressuring and the Packers, as much 431 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:41,920 Speaker 4: as we've kind of mocked their defense at times, and hell, 432 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 4: Lafleur did it. Did it in his presser, right. I mean, 433 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:48,879 Speaker 4: it's the year of just calling everybody out. There's no 434 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:52,439 Speaker 4: filter on anybody anymore, which is good and bad because 435 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 4: I'd love to be in those locker rooms. We don't 436 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 4: get to see those secondary conversations. But you know, ball 437 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 4: security being number one for golf, he's able to put 438 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:04,919 Speaker 4: up stuff like this and Laporta. I mean, just you 439 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:07,200 Speaker 4: look at him going forward. He's now tight end one 440 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:10,160 Speaker 4: mm hmmm. Right, I mean not just for this year, 441 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 4: but you're starting to look for rankings for next year. 442 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 4: He's the top guy now. 443 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 2: I so kick myself because prior to our trade deadline, 444 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:21,160 Speaker 2: I had Evan Ingram and I may have talked about 445 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 2: it on this podcast. He didn't have a great night 446 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:27,880 Speaker 2: on Sunday Night against the Ravens, but he was really 447 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 2: good the previous two weeks and he had to be. Heck, 448 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:32,919 Speaker 2: he was about time, you know, it took it forever, 449 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 2: you know, to finally get into the end zone. And 450 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 2: then he scores three times in the in the span 451 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 2: of two weeks. So I was I was happy with 452 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 2: my patients, happy with my decision. But then I thought 453 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:45,360 Speaker 2: about it because I'm like that was gonna be my upgrade. 454 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:48,120 Speaker 2: I was like, okay, I'm trying to get Laporta and 455 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 2: maybe move on from Ingram. I've shared. I had shared 456 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 2: some Ingram in every league because nobody wanted him, and 457 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 2: it paid off. But to your point, Mike like, gosh, 458 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 2: it's it's crazy on how easy it makes it or 459 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 2: he makes it. Look with what they do in that 460 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 2: offense is rolling, and I don't see a change, especially 461 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 2: now if the Vikings are going to be blitzing the 462 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:12,920 Speaker 2: heck out of Jared Goff, that ball is going to 463 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:15,359 Speaker 2: have to come out quick, and I think Samuel Porter 464 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 2: is going to be, you know, a key recipient of that. 465 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:20,879 Speaker 4: Yeah, he feasts, and I would think a lot of short, 466 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 4: intermediate yack opportunities for Saint Brown like that's that's it, 467 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 4: and then gives out of the backfield a bunch. So 468 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 4: I would expect to see that but opportunity. You know, 469 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:34,359 Speaker 4: going back to that Saturday game, you know, get on 470 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:39,160 Speaker 4: board the Denver bandwagon, and people were believing I still 471 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 4: was a Russell Wilson's skeptic and I will remain that forever. 472 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:45,479 Speaker 4: In a day as Jerry Judy once again, I mean 473 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 4: he got seventy four yards. I mean that was good, 474 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:51,200 Speaker 4: but you know, and Courtland Sutton is five for seventy one. 475 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:54,439 Speaker 4: But as soon as little Jordan Humphrey scored the touchdown, 476 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:55,479 Speaker 4: I just threw my hands up. 477 00:23:57,520 --> 00:23:58,920 Speaker 2: Not to mention a touchdown. 478 00:23:59,000 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 3: Yeah no, it's great. 479 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:04,639 Speaker 4: Yeah, not to mention their red zone inefficiencies that we 480 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:08,120 Speaker 4: referenced a little bit earlier. You know, Russ maybe get 481 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 4: into the line too fast to not allow for a 482 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 4: proper review of the Williams would be touchdown and then 483 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:18,880 Speaker 4: being called for the offensive offside, which I think as 484 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 4: a group stipulate nobody saw it. 485 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:25,399 Speaker 2: But yeah, no, nobody was offside. Uh crazy, Yeah, and 486 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 2: that's the biggest takeaway from it. But there's just you know, 487 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 2: I in a way I sounds stupid, but I think 488 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 2: you're playing Courtland Sutton, but it's I feel like he's 489 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:39,680 Speaker 2: touchdown dependent because I don't think you're not going to 490 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 2: get eleven catches for one hundred and forty yards in 491 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 2: that offense. 492 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 4: No, And Gavante Williams, like I trusted him one more time, 493 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:51,879 Speaker 4: shame on me. He's twelve for twenty seven and you 494 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 4: know p Ryan gets a carry and then McLaughlin was 495 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 4: back out there like, nope, you fooled me once, you 496 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 4: will not get me again. 497 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:03,399 Speaker 2: First, what stood up for you in week fifteen on 498 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 2: that slate? 499 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 5: From that slate, I mean relating it to Jared Goff. 500 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 5: So in one league I started Sam Howell over Jared 501 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:15,879 Speaker 5: Goff and you look at the matchups going into the 502 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 5: week and it was totally defensible, right, Like, I mean, 503 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 5: the Broncos have actually a decent secondary golf has been 504 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 5: kind of up and down over the last few weeks, 505 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:30,919 Speaker 5: and that Commander's rams game very high point total. It 506 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,440 Speaker 5: felt like a game where guys would be able to 507 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:36,640 Speaker 5: rack up points pretty easily. Terry McLaurin had a great day, 508 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:39,679 Speaker 5: but Sam Howell wasn't the only one throwing to him 509 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:42,680 Speaker 5: because at one point they had to bring in Jacoby 510 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 5: Brissett and you have Sam hal finishes with eight points. 511 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 5: So it was not a good day for me there. 512 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 5: But I think that is one thing that did stand 513 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,399 Speaker 5: out to me is Sam Howe is it feels like 514 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 5: he's very much reverted to like, all right, this is 515 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 5: you know the kind of the mid round flyer. Now 516 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,399 Speaker 5: he's the first half of the season, he looked like 517 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 5: he was showing flashes where especially as a as a 518 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:09,919 Speaker 5: fantasy quarterback, was really producing. But that was kind of 519 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:15,160 Speaker 5: buoyed by some some rushing touchdowns. But overall that offense, 520 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 5: I mean, you know, not having Brian Robinson hurts them 521 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:21,200 Speaker 5: as well. But yeah, the fact that that Sam Howell 522 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:24,680 Speaker 5: doesn't feel like a good start anymore is rather unfortunate. 523 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:29,399 Speaker 2: And Curtis Samuel can score as well. And that's you know, 524 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 2: as he said, Mike brought up the Terry McLaurin cardio thing. Ryan, 525 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,199 Speaker 2: when you were you were out on vacation, at some 526 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 2: point you thought that he would break, you know, at 527 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 2: least be back again. But there was nothing on that 528 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 2: slate that made you think that he was going to 529 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:42,360 Speaker 2: do what he did in the week fifteen. 530 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 4: So so yeah, and then obviously all we talk about 531 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:50,920 Speaker 4: in Pittsburgh and Indianapolis is the Pittsburgh players, one by 532 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:55,440 Speaker 4: one quitting and now for Christmas weekend we get Mason Rudolph. 533 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 4: I mean, how perfect is that. 534 00:26:58,680 --> 00:26:59,959 Speaker 2: It doesn't work out? 535 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,119 Speaker 3: Won't you? Guide my playoff hopes? 536 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 2: A that's the first game on Saturday, Bengals and Steelers 537 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:12,399 Speaker 2: and leading into Bills and Chargers. I know the NFL 538 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:16,119 Speaker 2: wish that maybe you had a few different names starting 539 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:19,240 Speaker 2: at quarterback, but hey, we've got Josh Allen and that's 540 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 2: what we're going to have to enjoy. I'll give you 541 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,359 Speaker 2: one quick takeaway that I had from week fifteen. I 542 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 2: don't know if it's I don't think it's crazy. Maybe 543 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:30,399 Speaker 2: I'm late to the party, guys, but it's more about 544 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:35,199 Speaker 2: solidifying this guy spot. I think Rashie Rice is Patrick 545 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:39,720 Speaker 2: Mahomes guy. And now that you've seen this is the 546 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 2: fourth straight game where he is at either nine or 547 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:48,159 Speaker 2: ten targets. And we're talking a few weeks back against 548 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 2: the Raiders and that win in Las Vegas eight receptions 549 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 2: on ten targets. The next week against Green Bay eight 550 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 2: receptions on nine targets, the lost to Buffalo, seven receptions 551 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 2: on ten targets. Against the Patriots nine catches, nine targets. 552 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:09,879 Speaker 2: That score, that emergence of Rashie Rice, and again the 553 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 2: other three weeks maybe was the emergence, guys, but for 554 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,920 Speaker 2: some reason it was just what he did. The perfect game, 555 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 2: if you will. The nine for nine just seemed to 556 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,360 Speaker 2: really solidify that he is. He is now the guy. 557 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:24,120 Speaker 2: The Chiefs have kind of wanted ever since Tyreek Hill left. 558 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 2: He may be he may not be Tyreek Hill, but 559 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 2: he's at least that guy that Patrick Mahomes can trust. 560 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, Dan, as you as you teased in our next 561 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:35,440 Speaker 5: episode we'll talk about the most important guys down the stretch. Here, 562 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 5: he was somebody that I was eyeing as somebody's who's 563 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 5: going to be highly important down the stretch because as 564 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 5: just as you said, he has taken on a huge 565 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:47,480 Speaker 5: target share. Suddenly he's he's seen clearly as trusted by Mahomes. 566 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:49,200 Speaker 5: And when it's four games in a row, that shows 567 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 5: you this is not a fluke. He's he's coming on 568 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 5: strong ends. The matchups are there for him. I would 569 00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 5: expect that to continue for Rishie Rice. 570 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, he just put the ball in his hand. I 571 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 4: mean you can't trust anybody else. I mean you saw 572 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 4: the tipball interception once again in Mahomes look some he 573 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 4: needs somebody to talk to, like someone's got to be 574 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:15,240 Speaker 4: able to let him vent. And and maybe maybe his 575 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:17,280 Speaker 4: wife's hanging out with Taylor too much so he doesn't 576 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:17,840 Speaker 4: have that at home. 577 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:20,240 Speaker 3: I'm not just kidding, but. 578 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:23,959 Speaker 4: Clearly, you know, the the season as frustrating as it 579 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 4: has been offensively defined that second guy, right, sky Moore 580 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 4: now goes to I R so not that guy. 581 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 2: Uh. 582 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:33,720 Speaker 4: This week we had the re emergency, a little bit 583 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 4: of Clyde Edwards Hilaire. 584 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 3: To taunt us once again. 585 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 2: I was gonna say it. If you didn't bring it up, 586 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 2: I was going to. 587 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 4: So there he is with Pacheco's sideline, and obviously we'll 588 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 4: keep an eye on everything as the week goes on. 589 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 3: But yeah, you got that the chaos there. 590 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 4: But you know, when you when you look at it, 591 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:57,480 Speaker 4: Rice has become that number two guy to Kelsey and 592 00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 4: and you you've seen some of the places that Mahomes 593 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 4: has trusted him to go make a play right as well, 594 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 4: not just targets, but where they are situationally in games. 595 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 3: I think is a big step forward. 596 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 4: We'd be remiss if we didn't say, you know, same 597 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 4: old Dallas Cowboys and their trash effort getting run over 598 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 4: by James Cook and everybody else. Josh Allen saying I 599 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 4: got the the A and the project and did nothing. 600 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 4: We referenced it a little bit before the Baltimore Jacksonville game. Jacksonville, 601 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 4: I mean like everybody looks at it, says you know, 602 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:39,120 Speaker 4: total blowout and look, Trevor Lawrence ball security is absolutely horrid, 603 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:44,160 Speaker 4: but you know he had makeable field goals put you. 604 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 2: In the game. 605 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 4: And and then maybe you call the second half differently, 606 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 4: but it's one that gets away and gets chaotics. So 607 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,880 Speaker 4: you got that My pick for the the guy that 608 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 4: will have to focus on as the guy everybody's got 609 00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 4: for fantasy purposes as an MVP. And then I just 610 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:04,360 Speaker 4: want to say one more time, Darnelle Mooney, nice work. 611 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 2: Hit Mike up at Swellendum, get Ryan at Ryan Bursching, 612 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:11,160 Speaker 2: and you can find me at Dan Byer on Fox. 613 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 2: We'll wrap up this episode of I Want Your Flex 614 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 2: with Mike Carmen's Waiver wire suggestions. Plus there's been one 615 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:22,560 Speaker 2: listener to the podcast that has been riding this wave 616 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 2: of success and his undefeated season almost came to a 617 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 2: crashing halt thanks to Moah. Yeah, we'll talk about it 618 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:35,720 Speaker 2: next year. And I Want Your Flex Week sixteen is here. 619 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 2: Maybe it's playoff time for you. Mike Carmon's going to 620 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 2: give you the guys that you need to pick up 621 00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:42,880 Speaker 2: waiverwire wise in Week sixteen. 622 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:46,120 Speaker 4: It's the wishing, wanting, hoping, right either daily fantasy where 623 00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:48,760 Speaker 4: you're trying to extend your fantasy life because we only 624 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:52,320 Speaker 4: have three more weeks, but hopefully playing meaningful football. And 625 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 4: if you got down to this, opportunity presents itself. Ty Chandler, 626 00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 4: we've talked about a bunch, finally got an opportunity and 627 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 4: really made them most of it. Now he has a 628 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:07,200 Speaker 4: home date against Detroit this week. Detroit dominated Denver, but 629 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 4: it is Look, it's an indoor game. We know they 630 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 4: play well on the fast track. But Chandler, with opportunity, 631 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,720 Speaker 4: he's got speed, can get to the outside, maybe give 632 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:21,000 Speaker 4: you a couple of big hits. Don't expect Madison to 633 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 4: challenge for the top spot again if he is available 634 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,600 Speaker 4: at all. Tyler all jear, much to the chagrin of 635 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 4: those bijon Robinson owners, he had himself a big day. 636 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:32,960 Speaker 3: I know Robinson owners may. 637 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:36,160 Speaker 4: Not be playing anymore after that effort in week fifteen, 638 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:38,720 Speaker 4: so that one certainly hurts Tray Sermon. 639 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 3: He pains me, but he used on the opportunity for him. 640 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 4: With the injury to Zach Moss, wouldn't expect Moss to 641 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 4: be back with the extent that they said the injury 642 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:56,240 Speaker 4: was so here's an opportunity against Atlanta. They've been pretty 643 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:59,440 Speaker 4: generous to runners, so you have that and Zamir White 644 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,720 Speaker 4: keeping an eye on the Josh Jacobs injury situation. Again, 645 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:05,520 Speaker 4: it's all about opportunities. If we get touches, it's a 646 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:07,000 Speaker 4: matter of what they can do with them. All we 647 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:08,760 Speaker 4: can do is try to put you in the best position. 648 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:12,240 Speaker 4: Derek Carr, the trust issue is always going to be 649 00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:16,040 Speaker 4: here with him played well. Opportunity on a short week 650 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:19,680 Speaker 4: the Thursday game against the Rams, both teams vying for 651 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:22,960 Speaker 4: playoff berths, so we should at least get one of 652 00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 4: those full tilt efforts, but short week, curious to see 653 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:28,200 Speaker 4: how it plays out. We finally got a little bit 654 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:31,440 Speaker 4: of Juwan Johnson back in, so maybe for your tight 655 00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:35,200 Speaker 4: end position you roll the dice there. But Taysom Hill, 656 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:38,680 Speaker 4: they'll need him if to be a bigger factor, which 657 00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:41,160 Speaker 4: may take away some of those red zone opportunities. So 658 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 4: that may be crushing, but look again, we're trying to 659 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 4: find the diamonds in the rough given all the injuries 660 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:49,240 Speaker 4: and other issues here. How about Baker Mayfield against Jacksonville. 661 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:54,600 Speaker 4: Third most generous team to opposing quarterbacks here, and I 662 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:56,480 Speaker 4: mean it's Baker Mayfield. Wouldn't you want to say you 663 00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 4: won a playoff game with Baker Mayfield in twenty twenty three? 664 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:03,880 Speaker 4: I would likewise Gardner Minshew Atlanta giving up the twelve 665 00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:07,840 Speaker 4: most fantasy points to opposing quarterbacks on the year. So 666 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:12,920 Speaker 4: an opportunity there, strange bedfellows here. As we get down to. 667 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:16,760 Speaker 2: It, I'll tell you what. Scott has been a longtime 668 00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:21,320 Speaker 2: listener of this podcast. Scott went into his playoffs unbeaten. Okay, 669 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:25,960 Speaker 2: so he's a perfect, perfect, unblemished record, and he reached 670 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,520 Speaker 2: out to me and said, hey, who do you like 671 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:31,080 Speaker 2: in Week fifteen? And of course I told him to 672 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,960 Speaker 2: bench Jordan Addison Like why wouldn't you know, why wouldn't 673 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:37,479 Speaker 2: you you know, just going up against the Cincinnati Bengals. Yeah, 674 00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:41,200 Speaker 2: why why would Jordan Addison do anything? I was like, 675 00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:45,040 Speaker 2: play Odell Beckham junior. You know, there's this is this 676 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:48,160 Speaker 2: is an opportunity for the Ravens on Sunday night to 677 00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:51,040 Speaker 2: go to Jacksonville and kind of strut their stuff, and 678 00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:54,239 Speaker 2: obj on Sunday night football can do his thing. And 679 00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:57,880 Speaker 2: I'm saying, hey, obj In go to the bench. Not 680 00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:00,000 Speaker 2: only that, I thought Calvin Ridley was a good play, 681 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,080 Speaker 2: so I got screwed by the replay that we talked 682 00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:07,400 Speaker 2: about earlier. Thank goodness that Scott has Christian McCaffrey, Kien Williams, 683 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:10,680 Speaker 2: and Jalen Hurts on his stage, because my advice to 684 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:12,799 Speaker 2: him was awful and I told him to ben Zack 685 00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,720 Speaker 2: Moss and I felt bad about it, but Zack Moss 686 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,680 Speaker 2: getting hurt, I was like, I know he's going to touchdown, 687 00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:20,759 Speaker 2: but at least he wasn't playing the rest of the game, 688 00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:23,000 Speaker 2: so my advice couldn't have been that awful because I 689 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,439 Speaker 2: told him to take DeAndre Swift, who, by the way, 690 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:28,360 Speaker 2: loves to get down to the one yard line and score, 691 00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:31,520 Speaker 2: and then let Jalen Hurts do the brotherly shove. So 692 00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:34,200 Speaker 2: it was just an all around bad choice. Oh, by 693 00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:35,919 Speaker 2: the way, the Viking I did tell him to play 694 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,719 Speaker 2: was TJ Hokinson, so it was just it was an 695 00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:44,120 Speaker 2: all around awful, awful advice weekend. But Scott actually sent 696 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:47,239 Speaker 2: to tweet as we were recording the first segment and 697 00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:50,400 Speaker 2: said that he won by less than two points, so 698 00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:54,600 Speaker 2: he's onto the championship game with a perfect record. Hopefully 699 00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:56,959 Speaker 2: it doesn't end like the Patriots and we can get 700 00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:01,400 Speaker 2: seventy two Dolphins. But Scotti, loyal listener to the programmers, 701 00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:04,200 Speaker 2: made it to the championship game with an unblemished record. 702 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:04,840 Speaker 1: No. 703 00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:09,000 Speaker 4: The Addison thing I think was good advice. Yeah, I 704 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:11,480 Speaker 4: mean he disappeared for a month. 705 00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:13,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, more than a month. 706 00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,719 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean targets in that game against Chicago, but 707 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:17,520 Speaker 4: it yielded six for thirty nine. 708 00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:18,759 Speaker 3: Yeah. 709 00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:22,239 Speaker 2: He also asked about Noah Brown. Yeah, you know yeah, and. 710 00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:25,759 Speaker 3: Like I said, strange bedfellows in week fifties. 711 00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:28,520 Speaker 2: Seriously, I should have known that there were since there 712 00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,759 Speaker 2: are no remaining Texans receivers, that maybe Noah Brown would 713 00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:35,200 Speaker 2: have been the would have been the play. But uh yeah, 714 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:38,320 Speaker 2: it was just craziness. And we've talked about this before. 715 00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:43,959 Speaker 2: Of guys, you sometimes just cheer for your own predictions 716 00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:47,440 Speaker 2: and old advice so somebody else doesn't get screwed. I 717 00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:50,200 Speaker 2: didn't care about my own fantasy team. I was so like, 718 00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:53,200 Speaker 2: I'm like, geez, poor Scott had a perfect record. You know, 719 00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:55,480 Speaker 2: thank god he's got three of the biggest studs you 720 00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:57,680 Speaker 2: know in fantasy football to help him carry the way. 721 00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:00,839 Speaker 2: But it's fun. That's how this when we have people 722 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:03,440 Speaker 2: interact with us. It's fun to be along for the ride. 723 00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:05,719 Speaker 2: There are sometimes people tell us that we're idiots, but 724 00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:08,080 Speaker 2: it's also nice when people reach out and say, hey, 725 00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:10,080 Speaker 2: they appreciate it, and he's listened to our stuff all 726 00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:13,760 Speaker 2: season long, and hey, if you're unbeaten, we did something 727 00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:14,440 Speaker 2: right along the way. 728 00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:14,680 Speaker 3: Well. 729 00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:17,719 Speaker 4: The other thing, though, Dan is I always to try 730 00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:20,480 Speaker 4: to come to grips with the amount of wrong advice 731 00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:24,440 Speaker 4: and hot takes in this business. Long ago, I decided 732 00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:26,839 Speaker 4: from the fantasy side, if I convinced you to change 733 00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:30,239 Speaker 4: your lineup one way or another, I must have made 734 00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:33,440 Speaker 4: a compelling argument. Sure, right, So if the guy then 735 00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:36,360 Speaker 4: doesn't get the opportunity because they fumble twice in the 736 00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:39,239 Speaker 4: first two possessions and they're down fourteen to nothing, so 737 00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:41,880 Speaker 4: that running back never sees the ball again because he 738 00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,520 Speaker 4: can't catch the ball out of the backfield, and so 739 00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:46,319 Speaker 4: they need to go to the other guy. I mean, 740 00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:48,319 Speaker 4: there's really not a whole lot I can do after that. 741 00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:50,960 Speaker 4: So at least that's how I try to sleep at night. 742 00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:54,560 Speaker 2: There's oh gosh, and that was on a Saturday, this stuff, 743 00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:56,840 Speaker 2: you know, Addison in the head zone, I was running 744 00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:59,920 Speaker 2: around doing stuff and it's like this rookie gets in 745 00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:01,800 Speaker 2: the end zone again and I look at you know, 746 00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:04,040 Speaker 2: that's the alert on my phone because the NFL likes 747 00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:10,640 Speaker 2: to tease you with that stuff. Sure, and I'm like, yeah, yeah, 748 00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:11,920 Speaker 2: but that. 749 00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:15,920 Speaker 4: Did not play out like anything like you would have 750 00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:21,879 Speaker 4: anticipated either, Like fantastic game, a lot of thrills, but yeah, 751 00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:25,879 Speaker 4: six for one, eleven and two, no chance in hell, like, oh, 752 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:27,759 Speaker 4: he hadn't gotten to those. I mean you could take 753 00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,839 Speaker 4: his last three weeks and he didn't get their yardage wise. 754 00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:34,360 Speaker 2: Plus with Jefferson back and like, you know, Mullins getting 755 00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:37,560 Speaker 2: the start and you know, Hockinson seemed like such the 756 00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:42,440 Speaker 2: perfect security blanket. D it ended up working. 757 00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:44,960 Speaker 4: Well, Hey, can I grab one more waiver wire guy 758 00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:47,480 Speaker 4: that I for got t J Spears because Derek Henry 759 00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:52,240 Speaker 4: sounded like a broken man after that week fifteen effort 760 00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:54,920 Speaker 4: and making me look stupid, and I could. 761 00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:57,600 Speaker 5: Throw out a waiver ad. As we're going into, you know, 762 00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:03,360 Speaker 5: another playoff matchup here, looking at defense. The Denver Broncos 763 00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:06,479 Speaker 5: have the Patriots this week, just played the Lions there 764 00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:10,040 Speaker 5: owned in only fifteen percent of leagues, so the Broncos 765 00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:13,040 Speaker 5: would be a great play if you're looking to gain 766 00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:14,040 Speaker 5: an edge on defense. 767 00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:18,800 Speaker 2: Here's my favorite Derrick Henry stuff from this week. Derrick 768 00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:23,040 Speaker 2: Henry had a long of six yards rushing. Okay, that 769 00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:27,560 Speaker 2: was his long on sixteen carries. So take away the 770 00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:30,839 Speaker 2: six that he got on that one carry, he would 771 00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:35,640 Speaker 2: have fifteen carries for three yards. Yeah, amazing. Wow. The 772 00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:41,200 Speaker 2: reception wise, his longest reception three yards. So if you 773 00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:45,200 Speaker 2: took away just that long reception, he had three catches 774 00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:51,720 Speaker 2: for negative two yards on four targets. Amazing, just amazingly 775 00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:58,000 Speaker 2: bad for Derrick Henry. He has a reason to feel broken. 776 00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:02,240 Speaker 2: It hasn't been there. There's ben know, Derrick Henry seventy 777 00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:06,520 Speaker 2: two yard touchdown run this season and they're eliminated, and 778 00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:08,200 Speaker 2: I think that he sees the writing on the wall. 779 00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:11,200 Speaker 4: Well, and Will Levis is hurt now, right, high ankle sprain, 780 00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:14,680 Speaker 4: So now we shuffle quarterbacks once again. 781 00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:19,120 Speaker 2: I don't root for anyone's injury, you know, at all, 782 00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:21,640 Speaker 2: And that stinks because he's a fun player to watch. 783 00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:25,560 Speaker 2: But the gall to wear those oiler uniforms against the Texans, 784 00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:28,920 Speaker 2: everybody in Houston just had to be up in freaking 785 00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:33,120 Speaker 2: arms over that. All, right, there, they did, They actually 786 00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:37,919 Speaker 2: looked really good. They always do that, Baby Blue, Love 787 00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:40,719 Speaker 2: you Blue. The Texans did a good job trolling it 788 00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:43,920 Speaker 2: though as well. They turned the Titan logo, turned it 789 00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:46,080 Speaker 2: upside down, turned it into an L, and then pour 790 00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:50,000 Speaker 2: oil all over it. So good job to the graphics 791 00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:52,840 Speaker 2: department there in Houston. All right, So that's gonna do 792 00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:55,239 Speaker 2: it for I want your flex coming up. It is 793 00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:58,320 Speaker 2: Christmas week, but we're gonna be here with episodes Wednesday, 794 00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:00,840 Speaker 2: Thursday and Friday. It's winning time, so we want to 795 00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:04,279 Speaker 2: get your your championships set so far, Ryan Berschinger and 796 00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:06,480 Speaker 2: my Karmanan dan Beyer. We will talk to you next 797 00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:13,240 Speaker 2: time here and I want your flex. Mm hmmmmmmmm