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Speaker 1: If you want Colts talk all year long, you're in

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Speaker 1: the right place. This is the Official Colts Podcast, giving

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Speaker 1: you an updated look at what's new with the Horseshoes.

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Speaker 1: Let's get the podcast started. Hello again, everyone, and welcome

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Speaker 1: to the Colts Official Podcast. We are presented to you

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Speaker 1: by our friends at win Bet, the official sports book

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Speaker 1: partner of your Indianapolis Colts. My name is Jeffrey Gorman.

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Speaker 1: Joining me as usual Miss Lara Olverton. She keeps us

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Speaker 1: afloat no sinking ships with her on board, and of

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Speaker 1: course JJ Stankovitz. Hey, Lara, JJ is coming up I

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Speaker 1: on a one year anniversary working for this franchise, coming

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Speaker 1: He's coming up on one year and I kind of

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Speaker 1: like the addition. The kid's good. Hey, he has been

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Speaker 1: a fantastic addition. I mean, I can't tell you how

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Speaker 1: we've been in kind of this wild season where it

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Speaker 1: find all these ways to do all these different things.

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Speaker 1: So I'm grateful that JJ has put up with all

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Speaker 1: like JJ is always there doing Horseshoe fa Q. We

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Speaker 1: always have fun doing that segment. JJ. I know you

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Speaker 1: J Jeffrey, I know that you got to jump in

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Speaker 1: and doo an fa q and you guys had had

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Speaker 1: Stankovitz is not only the quality of the content and

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Speaker 1: all of the fantastic articles and all of that, but

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Speaker 1: also like the personality and the comedy and all of

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Speaker 1: that that you inject into not just our shows and

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Speaker 1: he's making changes. We don't know what department that's in.

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Speaker 1: You're a new guy, you don't even have a year

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Speaker 1: You know, it's really nice to, you know, get laid

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Speaker 1: That it was over? It was didn't ask me back, Lara.

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Speaker 1: glad you're here. Keep up the great work. You can

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Speaker 1: follow JJ at JJ stank if it's on Twitter at

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Speaker 1: Lara Overton on Twitter, and of course on colts dot

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Speaker 1: right then, there's nothing about his performance that says that

425
00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:49,800
Speaker 1: Tom Brady is not able to perform at peak level.

426
00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:52,320
Speaker 1: I don't know. I just think that this is to me,

427
00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:56,920
Speaker 1: this is Tom Brady perfectly executing. He's controlling his narrative.

428
00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:59,440
Speaker 1: He's going to keep the conversation driving around him and

429
00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:02,960
Speaker 1: make sure he is front page on ESPN and NFL

430
00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:06,000
Speaker 1: Network and Good Morning Football and Get Up and every

431
00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:09,639
Speaker 1: every single day, every single conversation will surround Tom Brady

432
00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:12,240
Speaker 1: for the foreseeable future. That's one of the things that

433
00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:14,560
Speaker 1: he has best at, besides of course, mounting double digit

434
00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:17,119
Speaker 1: comebacks and being the greatest quarterback of all time and

435
00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:19,000
Speaker 1: all of those things. But to me, that's all this is.

436
00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:22,280
Speaker 1: It's pr okay, Okay, Well, I personally do think he's

437
00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:24,320
Speaker 1: going to be back talking with a couple of the

438
00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:27,560
Speaker 1: my friends down in Tampa. You know, guy used to

439
00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:29,800
Speaker 1: work for us in Clyde Christensen and stuff, and now

440
00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:32,800
Speaker 1: talk about guys really well connected. That's our Jeffrey Gorman

441
00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:34,760
Speaker 1: right there. No, No, I'm just saying, like, I haven't

442
00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:37,080
Speaker 1: talked to Clyde at depth about Brady or anything like that,

443
00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:39,880
Speaker 1: but I'm just saying, like what he's been talking through

444
00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,400
Speaker 1: this year and what they still have on that roster,

445
00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:45,000
Speaker 1: and what Bruce arians can do with that healthy offense

446
00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:49,160
Speaker 1: keyword healthy, and potentially Gront coming back in a specific

447
00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:51,840
Speaker 1: role where Gront plays a total of nine games, but

448
00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:55,080
Speaker 1: all playoff games type of thing. I don't see him not,

449
00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:57,600
Speaker 1: you know, I see him coming back next year and saying, hey,

450
00:22:57,680 --> 00:22:59,680
Speaker 1: let's make one more run with this thing, especially with

451
00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:02,520
Speaker 1: b in his ear and class. I'm with you, Yeah,

452
00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:04,359
Speaker 1: that's that's that's what I feel. And I know what

453
00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:06,359
Speaker 1: you're saying. Hey, family first, the kid's got to have

454
00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:08,720
Speaker 1: their dad and stuff like that. But they're you know,

455
00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:11,359
Speaker 1: they're a different sort of a family. You know, worldwide

456
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:14,480
Speaker 1: known they can't go anywhere on Earth without being mobbed,

457
00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:17,760
Speaker 1: and that includes Safari's in you know, the outer banks.

458
00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:20,399
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter where they're they're gonna be, you know,

459
00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,480
Speaker 1: on front page, whatever they do. I just think he's

460
00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:25,800
Speaker 1: in that environment where he says, hey, I still got

461
00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:28,560
Speaker 1: two good seasons in this arm, let me run it,

462
00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:30,880
Speaker 1: you know, like can I bring something up with something

463
00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:33,680
Speaker 1: else really quickly? For me is like it's not like

464
00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:36,639
Speaker 1: when Tom Brady walks away from football, his workload is

465
00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:39,680
Speaker 1: just going to evaporate. He has his hands, he has

466
00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,200
Speaker 1: so many business mentors and so many other things. I

467
00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:44,560
Speaker 1: would argue that even when he walks away from football,

468
00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:47,440
Speaker 1: he might end up working more because he's got this

469
00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:49,480
Speaker 1: new apparel brand that he launched, He's got all the

470
00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:52,080
Speaker 1: TV twelve stuff he's going to be at. You know,

471
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:54,520
Speaker 1: everyone is going to be pursuing him for every media.

472
00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:57,440
Speaker 1: I mean, he's already got the man in the arena

473
00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:00,359
Speaker 1: going and all of those different things. So the thing

474
00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:02,520
Speaker 1: about oh he wants more time with his family, that

475
00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:04,880
Speaker 1: ain't gonna happen when he stops playing, because he's still

476
00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:06,760
Speaker 1: gonna be doing one hundred thousand things. I mean, I

477
00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:09,119
Speaker 1: think when you talk to Peyton, he would say that, like,

478
00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:12,760
Speaker 1: certainly he has more autonomy over his schedule maybe now,

479
00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:15,399
Speaker 1: but I would say he probably works just about as

480
00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:19,040
Speaker 1: much because that's just who he is engineered to be.

481
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:21,240
Speaker 1: So I think it is foolish to think, like, oh,

482
00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:23,760
Speaker 1: Tom's gonna kick back and he's just gonna, you know,

483
00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,000
Speaker 1: not do anything for two years and just you know,

484
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:29,160
Speaker 1: go to soccer games and watch his daughter play volleyball

485
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:32,480
Speaker 1: and that like no chance come on. Also, Gazelle's very,

486
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:35,240
Speaker 1: very career driven, and she's got her things going on.

487
00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:38,960
Speaker 1: So I don't know that's something to keep him from hanging. Laura.

488
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,240
Speaker 1: I don't think he keeps him hanging JJ. I don't really.

489
00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:43,760
Speaker 1: I think he says, you know, in the next couple

490
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:45,680
Speaker 1: of weeks, he's saying, yeah, I'm in, I'm not, you know,

491
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,760
Speaker 1: just to have the ship going in the right direction. Absolutely,

492
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,960
Speaker 1: that cloud hang over that complex for months at a

493
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:53,960
Speaker 1: time saying, well Tom come back, will he not? I

494
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:55,520
Speaker 1: don't think he's that type of guy. So I think

495
00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:58,160
Speaker 1: we'll hear something sooner or later. So that game led

496
00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:00,199
Speaker 1: into this game, by the way, Mike Chappell coming up,

497
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,399
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk Reggie Wayne Hall of Fame chances as

498
00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 1: well as what we saw with the last quarter of

499
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:07,000
Speaker 1: the cold season. He's coming up from CBS four and

500
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,840
Speaker 1: H and Fox's fifty nine. But first and foremost, Lara,

501
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:12,879
Speaker 1: I want to start with you because I, you know,

502
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,680
Speaker 1: turned down the volume here because we watched that Rams

503
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,760
Speaker 1: Buccaneers game. We followed it up with Bills and Chiefs,

504
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 1: and I thought, I'm just gonna throw this out there

505
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:23,040
Speaker 1: and let you guys go with There was a two

506
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:27,080
Speaker 1: minute warning with six timeouts left between both teams. I

507
00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:29,760
Speaker 1: called it right there. I not called it, but I said,

508
00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:32,359
Speaker 1: oh boy, are we going to see some fireworks here?

509
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:34,680
Speaker 1: Two minutes left with these two quarterbacks and they have

510
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,720
Speaker 1: all their time outs left. Lara, did you did you

511
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:39,960
Speaker 1: have enough breath in your lungs to watch that game?

512
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:44,399
Speaker 1: I mean, you guys, it was so wild. And I

513
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,080
Speaker 1: don't have like a rooting interest in either of these teams.

514
00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:50,680
Speaker 1: I was just rooting for outstanding football. And you know,

515
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:53,639
Speaker 1: having been able to you know, go to Buffalo and

516
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 1: see firsthand that team play, and then having you know,

517
00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,399
Speaker 1: been in Kansas City watching the Chiefs play at points

518
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:02,760
Speaker 1: in my tenure working here, you know you have a

519
00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 1: good perspective on each of those teams. I mean, I

520
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:09,200
Speaker 1: was just like a crazy, rabid football family, Like I

521
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:13,359
Speaker 1: couldn't sit down. I was pacing, like Dan was like

522
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:16,359
Speaker 1: watching me, like, you're insane, right, He's like I would

523
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:19,480
Speaker 1: have swore like you were like Travis Kelsey's mom, good

524
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:21,639
Speaker 1: old Donna Kelsey who hopped on the Zoom call. You know,

525
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:23,480
Speaker 1: I was asking questions like she was part of the media,

526
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:25,600
Speaker 1: which was outstanding. That was the week prior. But I

527
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:27,640
Speaker 1: still loved the moment so much. I mean, you would

528
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 1: have thought that's how invested I was in the outcome

529
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,440
Speaker 1: that I had, like you know, family attachment to it,

530
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,840
Speaker 1: just because it was so thrilling and it was like

531
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:40,720
Speaker 1: the perfect way to finalize that whole weekend of what

532
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:45,000
Speaker 1: was just such great football all around, and like all

533
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:48,440
Speaker 1: three phases football, I mean, kickers coming down to you know,

534
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:51,240
Speaker 1: field goals on three of those games just insane. And

535
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:56,440
Speaker 1: then that game was so much fun to watch some

536
00:26:56,640 --> 00:27:00,320
Speaker 1: of the just absurd throws that each of those guys

537
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 1: were making. Like I just it was so much fun.

538
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 1: I was just jumping. I mean I was jumping up

539
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 1: and down, and like the thing was, it wasn't like

540
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 1: I was wading for one team or another. I was

541
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:12,600
Speaker 1: jumping up now because I was losing my mind at

542
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:14,480
Speaker 1: some of the plays and the turn of events. And

543
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:16,920
Speaker 1: then you know, the Bills taking the lead, but leaving

544
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 1: thirteen seconds on the clock and you know, giving I mean,

545
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,879
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes, you can leave that man no time like

546
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,440
Speaker 1: and they had clearly, you know, like they had enough

547
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 1: time to get it done. And then it comes down

548
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 1: to the coin toss and then you're debating. It's like,

549
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:32,440
Speaker 1: oh my god, it is are these overtime rules and

550
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 1: there's that tobate that goes into it. I just think

551
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:37,840
Speaker 1: that it was to me one of the most memorable

552
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 1: weekends of football that I've had purely as a fan, like,

553
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,159
Speaker 1: you know, removed from any of the experiences working in

554
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:48,119
Speaker 1: the NFL. It was really really freaking fun and just

555
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:51,440
Speaker 1: made me really excited to watch this championship weekend go forward,

556
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 1: you know what. I love God. Yeah, that the end

557
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:59,440
Speaker 1: of that Chiefs Bills game. So the thirteen seconds where

558
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,399
Speaker 1: you know, Mahomes hits that completion to Tyree Hill, he

559
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 1: kind of gets them closer. You're gonna thinking, all right,

560
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,199
Speaker 1: there in Hail Mary range, there's no way they can

561
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:10,120
Speaker 1: get into field goal range. And I saw this after

562
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 1: the game that Mahomes and Kelsey kind of just said

563
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:18,200
Speaker 1: all right, like Trales just run where there's grass. Like.

564
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 1: It wasn't a designed route, it wasn't backyard football. It

565
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,680
Speaker 1: was just two of the best freaking players in the

566
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 1: NFL saying let's go and like I love that. Like

567
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,680
Speaker 1: there's so much you can do to scheme up offense

568
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 1: and to create opportunities for your quarterback. But there's something

569
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 1: to be said for hey, just go get where it

570
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 1: get open. Just go get open, like you're playing on

571
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 1: two park, like you said, Lara, like backyard football. That's awesome.

572
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 1: I'm sorry to quote from Andy Reid to Patrick when

573
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 1: it's grim be the grim Reaper? Are you kidding me?

574
00:28:54,920 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 1: Like that's like put that on the side of Arrowhead Stadium, Lara, JJ,

575
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 1: you guys are well well versed and educated than I'll

576
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 1: ever be. Is that his quote or did that come

577
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 1: from like some book or Disney film. I've never heard

578
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 1: that ever. And also I don't think Andy Reid needs

579
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 1: to steal content from anyone. If you hear some of

580
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 1: his press conferences, I mean there, I mean he has

581
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 1: all sorts of just absolute gems in press conferences. He

582
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 1: had one after the game last weekend. I can't remember

583
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 1: about it. I can't the chocolate cake, thank you. It's

584
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 1: a lot of his great quotes are food related, which

585
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 1: I wholeheartedly appreciate. I really love that. But yeah, no,

586
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 1: I don't think that he's having to plagiarize anything. When

587
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 1: you are Andy Reid and you just have this like

588
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 1: gift that he does. I mean, as incredible of the

589
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 1: football coaches he is, he is equal parts wordsmith in

590
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 1: my mind. JJ I just did a quick Google search

591
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 1: for it, Jeffrey It that sounds like it's Andy Reid's quote. Wow,

592
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 1: sounds like it. All right, mora will be revealed on that,

593
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 1: but really quick. If you're a Buffalo Bills fan and

594
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 1: like you're getting ready for, you know, the next week's

595
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 1: game after no way, can Josh bring us back? Yes?

596
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 1: He ken, Oh my gosh, we're going to the AFC

597
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 1: Championship game. You're making plans with the family and the

598
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 1: friends while the game is still has time on the clock.

599
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 1: I mean again, Buffalo again, Buffalo decimated by a tragic loss.

600
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 1: If you're a Bills fan right now, obviously you're happy

601
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 1: about the future what you have in the quarterback. But

602
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, man, these gut wrenching losses that have happened

603
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 1: through the years they I mean something about ghosts, you

604
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,000
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, something about ghosts in the NFL.

605
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 1: This feels ultimately like another huge left down for the

606
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills franchise, obviously with four Super Bowl trips and

607
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 1: not a one win. Wait, but did you see the

608
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:47,480
Speaker 1: welcoming committee at the Buffalo airport when the team got there? Tell,

609
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 1: hundreds hundreds of fans showed up with signs to welcome

610
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:56,480
Speaker 1: the Bills home and celebrate this season that they had

611
00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 1: and the absolute battle that they had just come home

612
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 1: from that they lost in Kansas City. But that fan base,

613
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:07,320
Speaker 1: to me, knows the future is incredibly bright and that

614
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 1: you this is a team is going to be in contingent. Yeah,

615
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 1: of course their disappointment, but I just thought that was

616
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 1: really telling about this fan base to do that. I mean,

617
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 1: I think it was like three am maybe when they

618
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 1: showed up JJ. I don't know if you can search

619
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 1: for it really quickly and see, like there was an

620
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 1: article that had I mean, there are images all over

621
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 1: I saw him shared on Twitter. I mean fans, just

622
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 1: thrones of fans showing up to welcome that team home.

623
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,720
Speaker 1: And I thought that was really telling just about the

624
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 1: character I mean, I respect the heck out of the

625
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,720
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills fans and all of that, but they got

626
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 1: the number one ranked defense in the NFL and the

627
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 1: kid hung forty two on them. I mean in the

628
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 1: divisional playoff. I mean, like, how how great your chips

629
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 1: are lying right in front of you saying I got

630
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 1: a top ranked defense in the top quarterback, and that

631
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 1: happens they take their lungs out. I mean, put a

632
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 1: fist in their chest and rip the hearts out of that.

633
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 1: I'm saying, number one defense in It's like, boy, they're

634
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 1: on a good path right now, lare but oh boy,

635
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 1: don't I you know, losers lose, and I just don't

636
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 1: like the mentality going on a big games these guys

637
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 1: coming up short. I hope we don't have that with

638
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 1: the Bills and Josh Allen. I don't know. I mean,

639
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 1: Mahomes went to Josh Allen after and if you see it,

640
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 1: he's sprinted to find you know, the Chiefs are celebrating

641
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 1: and Mahomes broke away from all his teammates and sprinted

642
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 1: the distance of the field to go and hunt down

643
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 1: Josh Josh Allen to hug him, and you know, congratulate him, well,

644
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 1: you know, on a great season whatever, But he said,

645
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 1: we're going to do this a lot, and I thought

646
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 1: that was such a cool, a cool moment. But yeah,

647
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 1: you never take for granted having that special of a

648
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 1: team getting that far and not being able to see

649
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 1: it through the finish line. Chase watch it, watch it.

650
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 1: You can look it at it online. Watch the final

651
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 1: two minutes that they can watch the final three and

652
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 1: a half minutes of that game. You'll be able to

653
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:47,960
Speaker 1: watch it forever and ever. One of the greatest games

654
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 1: in the NFL. JJ you were saying something before I

655
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 1: so unapologetically cut you off. Well, it's just the mentality

656
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 1: of the team. Like it's great, you know that fans

657
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 1: welcomed him back, and like, you know, Shot Bill's fans

658
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 1: are awesome. Like, I'm with you, guys, but this team

659
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 1: was built to beat the Chiefs. And like you said,

660
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 1: you know, you got these two great safeties in in

661
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 1: ployer and hide, and you've got this this great I mean,

662
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 1: great quarterback and great rest. We haven't even mentioned Gabriel

663
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 1: Davis probably having the best game of wide receivers had

664
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 1: in playoffs. Oh my god, Like but he was breaking

665
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 1: ankles or the Bills secondary or in the chief secondary it.

666
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 1: But like to get here and then to lose, like

667
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:39,720
Speaker 1: I don't I can't fathom how crushing that is when

668
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 1: I think you feel like if you won that game,

669
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 1: you're gonna win the Super Bowl, and you lose it

670
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 1: and now you're not even playing on championship weekend. I mean,

671
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 1: this team that a lot of those players are going

672
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 1: to be back next year. They're a they're a pretty

673
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 1: stacked team going into twenty twenty two. But like you said,

674
00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 1: it's not the same. I mean, you know you're gonna

675
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 1: get Tradeabus White back, that's great. Will there be other

676
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 1: injuries that you have to deal with. You know, you're

677
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 1: going to have some other attrition here and there with

678
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 1: a guy leaving or getting injured or whatever. It may

679
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 1: be the cores there, but that special. You know, how

680
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 1: close a team is to winning, it's not always a

681
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:22,360
Speaker 1: given that they'll be right back. Some teams did it.

682
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 1: I mean, you think about the Chiefs in twenty eighteen,

683
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 1: they lost in the same manner the Bills just did

684
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 1: to the Chiefs that Mahomes had that great season, they

685
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 1: get the AFC Championship Game thirty one thirty one. After

686
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 1: sixty minutes, they lose the coin flip. Tom Brady goes

687
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 1: down Patriots winning Mahomes doesn't even touch the ball, and

688
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 1: you're thinking, man like, is it really going to be

689
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:45,879
Speaker 1: the same? And it has been for the Chiefs because

690
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 1: they went they won the Super Bowl the next year.

691
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 1: But it's not always the case. Like we talk a

692
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 1: lot about Josh Allen being the exception to the rule

693
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:57,759
Speaker 1: with young quarterbacks, how it's probably not super responsible for

694
00:34:57,800 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 1: a team that has a young quarterback that's struggling to

695
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 1: be like, well, look at Josh Allen. It's not super

696
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 1: responsible for a team to be like, we'll be back

697
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 1: next year, just run it back. The Bills are gonna

698
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 1: have to make some changes, They're gonna have to do

699
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,319
Speaker 1: some things differently, and it might not be the same.

700
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 1: And they have a really damn good quarterback who can

701
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 1: take them wherever they want to go. But it's not

702
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:19,759
Speaker 1: always a given. It's just what I'm saying, Congratulations to

703
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:22,320
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills. Mike Chappele's coming up from Fox fifty

704
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 1: nine and CBS four. We're gonna talk some Hall of

705
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:26,360
Speaker 1: Fame and current Colts status as far as what this

706
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 1: team is up to. But one thing on the Bills

707
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:33,880
Speaker 1: before we go to chap Congratulations to Terry and Kim Pegoula,

708
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 1: the owners of the Bills, and their daughter Jessica, who

709
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 1: went to the quarter finals of the Australian Open tennis tournament.

710
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 1: She is one of the best players in the world.

711
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:47,320
Speaker 1: They have a great football team. Life is good for

712
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 1: the Pagoulas right now. So big congratulations on behalf of

713
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 1: the Colts. To Jessica Pegoula for getting to the quarters

714
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,759
Speaker 1: of the Australian Open. That's the equivalent of our very

715
00:35:56,840 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 1: own kaylin Ersey being in the quarter finals of the

716
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:03,320
Speaker 1: Australian Open, and we would just be a static. The

717
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 1: whole show would be about tennis. Hey, we'd be there, right,

718
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:08,840
Speaker 1: we'd just do the podcast from there in it we

719
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 1: just can we just go down Under? Yeah? I love

720
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:17,760
Speaker 1: it alright, So let's go to Australia. That'd be great.

721
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 1: We can't even get to Houston to cover some games

722
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 1: on Australia. We'll figure that out when the time's right. Okay,

723
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 1: let's not waste any more time coming in from Fox

724
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 1: fifty nine and CBS four covering the Colts since nineteen

725
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 1: eighty four, a long time with the Indie Star, Fox

726
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:36,360
Speaker 1: fifty nine, CBS four Sports member and also a voting

727
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:39,360
Speaker 1: member of the Pro Football Hall of Fame selection Committee.

728
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:41,719
Speaker 1: We will get into that and current colts who are

729
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 1: up for enshrinement potentially this year. But let's say hello

730
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 1: to Mike Chappell. How are you, Mike? Appreciate the time.

731
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:53,920
Speaker 1: So now you guys doing doing fantastic? Yeah, after that

732
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 1: weekend of NFL football, chap I want to start there.

733
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 1: Lara and JJ and I have been going giddy as

734
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 1: well as everybody else as after what we just witnessed

735
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 1: this past weekend when it comes to the NFL, Mike Chappell,

736
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 1: a long time cover in this game. The quarterback play

737
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 1: that we saw in the last two days over the

738
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:15,360
Speaker 1: past weekend rather remarkable. I haven't seen a weekend of

739
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:17,319
Speaker 1: football like that in a long time. I want your

740
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:21,399
Speaker 1: take on that and what you saw this past weekend. Yeah,

741
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 1: I can't remember. I mean, you know, walk off weekend

742
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 1: when all the games you know is the walk off homer,

743
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 1: which is incredible and what really struck me, and it's

744
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 1: not necessarily a great thing for the local football basis

745
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 1: the young quarterbacks in the AFC that you think, wow,

746
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 1: these guys are. It kind of reminds you back in

747
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 1: the day when you had the Marinos and the Ailways

748
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 1: and Kelly's and they were the young guns and they

749
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 1: did it for a long long time. You look at

750
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 1: these guys and gosh, so many young quarterbacks who do

751
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 1: special things. I know there's a lot of talking about

752
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:05,759
Speaker 1: the overtime ruling and shouldn't Josh Allen gotten a chance

753
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:08,319
Speaker 1: they might have played forever. They might have just kept

754
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 1: trading touchdowns. So but it's amazing and I saw I've

755
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 1: seen some things where the ratings were or through the

756
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 1: roof on some of these games, and it just proves

757
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:22,399
Speaker 1: to me that the NFL that they could put their

758
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 1: two worst teams out there on a Wednesday evening and

759
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:30,840
Speaker 1: people would watch, people watch the struggle, which is basically,

760
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:35,279
Speaker 1: you know, just just a non event, and it's usually

761
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 1: a very highly rated event. So then when you get

762
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 1: these the ingredients that they had here with you know,

763
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 1: how often or how seldom do games failed to live

764
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 1: up to the hype, but all of these did and

765
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 1: they even exceeded it, which is it was truly an

766
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 1: amazing weekend chap I choked on Twitter. I said, hey,

767
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 1: with no Monday night games scheduled, we should just play

768
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 1: this Bill's Chiefs game again, you know, to create a

769
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:01,319
Speaker 1: series out of this game. I couldn't have had enough

770
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 1: quarters of that. And when you look to you know,

771
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:06,320
Speaker 1: these are teams that the Indianapolis Colts have tons of

772
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 1: familiarity with. Of course, have faced the Buffalo Bills, just

773
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 1: faced them this past regular season, faced them in the

774
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 1: play year, beat the Kansas City Chiefs just a few

775
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 1: seasons ago. They're in Arrowhead on Sunday Night football. Given

776
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 1: what you are seeing from each of those franchises, how

777
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 1: tough is it going to be four teams in the

778
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:28,920
Speaker 1: in the near future within the AFC? And how frustrating

779
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 1: is it for the Colts knowing that you went to

780
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 1: Buffalo dominated that Bills team and then you see what

781
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 1: they did against Kansas City and made every effort they

782
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:41,799
Speaker 1: could to have certainly contended in the AFC Championship game. Yeah,

783
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 1: I hear people say the Colt twinning and Buffalo was

784
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:47,279
Speaker 1: their fluke, wasn't They went in there and they punched

785
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 1: them in the mouth and they let's not diminish what

786
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 1: the Colts did, I mean, come on, But again, what

787
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 1: it does, it just shows you kind of what the

788
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:59,800
Speaker 1: bar is going to be to be competitive. And I

789
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 1: remember back in the day with the Mannings and all

790
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 1: this and how they had trouble getting over the hump

791
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:06,880
Speaker 1: with New England and people so well, you've got to

792
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 1: build your team to win in New England. You know,

793
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 1: the Colts had that fast track team that played indoors

794
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:16,320
Speaker 1: and to think you're going to build your team to

795
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 1: win one game in New England was ridiculous. But you

796
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:22,919
Speaker 1: just have to look at how how how this is going.

797
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:26,440
Speaker 1: It's a quarterback league, it is and it always will be.

798
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 1: And what the Cults are trying to do a little

799
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 1: bit is go against the green by being a run

800
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:38,400
Speaker 1: centric team. And as Chris Boller told us, it worked

801
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 1: for Tennessee for several years with Derek Henry. But you

802
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 1: know the issue is then you need competent You need

803
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:47,920
Speaker 1: at least at least competent play at quarterback door he

804
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:52,280
Speaker 1: makes those four or five plays, not the ridiculous maddened

805
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 1: throws that Mahomes and and Alan make, but make those

806
00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 1: plays on third and six or whatever to wear your

807
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 1: your fortimulative works, which it didn't work the last two

808
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 1: weeks where for whatever the reasons, where the culture just

809
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:09,919
Speaker 1: couldn't sustain things and and and get the job done.

810
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 1: But it's just kind of scary now you look the

811
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 1: way these teams are built, even in the NFC with

812
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:18,919
Speaker 1: with the rams, although they were sort of different because

813
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:22,359
Speaker 1: they weren't built that way, they were put together that way.

814
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:26,239
Speaker 1: But it's just crazy. People say, well, you need to

815
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 1: go and get your mahomes drowning or borrow. Oh really,

816
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:32,840
Speaker 1: you know what stories that I'll go in line and

817
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 1: you know, I'll try to get me a couple of

818
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 1: those guys. So that's the problem is you know what

819
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 1: you need to get, it's just hard to get it. Well,

820
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:42,360
Speaker 1: the other thing is you have to be in a

821
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 1: position draftwise to get one of those guys. They're not

822
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 1: just gonna come available in free agency. I mean there's

823
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:49,840
Speaker 1: so few, they're so rare, which is why they're so

824
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 1: thrilling to watch. Putting yourself in a position to even

825
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 1: be able to buy for one of those guys is

826
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 1: so difficult because you almost have to you have to

827
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 1: have at least a season or several seasons where you're

828
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 1: not petitive to put yourself in that situation of being

829
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:06,359
Speaker 1: high enough draft position to grab them. Well that's and see,

830
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 1: that's what happened for like twenty five years with Peyton

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Speaker 1: Manning and Andrew Luck. You just had things had to

832
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:19,439
Speaker 1: fall into place. In ninety ninety eight draft and ninety seven,

833
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:21,880
Speaker 1: you know, you had you had to lose in Minnesota,

834
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 1: and you had to have things happen out in Arizona

835
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:26,279
Speaker 1: to be in position. And then you you know, you

836
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 1: had to have the bad season and being to be

837
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 1: to get the first pick, and then it had to

838
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 1: fall into place in two thousand and level with Peyton

839
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 1: Manning not playing, and then and then you you had

840
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 1: the worst record and you'd take Luck. I remember that.

841
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:41,719
Speaker 1: What struck me was that year in two thousand and twelve,

842
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:44,759
Speaker 1: the Colts have the worst record and they take Andrew Luck.

843
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:46,759
Speaker 1: I think they were three and thirteen, two and twelve,

844
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:50,840
Speaker 1: the records were. But then the very next year, Kansas

845
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:55,320
Speaker 1: City has got the worst record and they take Eric Fisher,

846
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 1: a left tackle. Well, it's all about time and place,

847
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:02,320
Speaker 1: and in we always joked that, you know, Jim Mersey

848
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 1: really made the deal because he got two you know,

849
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 1: franchise quarterbacks for a long time. You wish Luck would

850
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 1: have stuck around longer, obviously, but you just it's it's

851
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 1: time and place. It just you know, Kansas City had

852
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 1: the right record, the worst record, but there wasn't a

853
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 1: quarterback there worthy of it. And if you don't get

854
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:24,960
Speaker 1: that guy, it's just hard. It's hard. I've seen some

855
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:26,799
Speaker 1: things now where people said, well, you know, the coach

856
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 1: should have taken Josh Allen instead of Quittin Nelson eighteen

857
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:35,759
Speaker 1: to hit Andrew Luck and he went on to have

858
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 1: a great season. I mean, that would have been ridiculous.

859
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 1: Now we can argue whether you take another position, but

860
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 1: to take Josh Allen, who wasn't considered a slam dunk,

861
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:51,759
Speaker 1: you know, lottery quarterback anyway. But it just shows you

862
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:56,360
Speaker 1: how everything the league and interest is driven by the quarterback.

863
00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 1: And if you got one, you're lucky, and if you don't,

864
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:05,799
Speaker 1: it's it's you can compete, But it's just hard. Things

865
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:07,759
Speaker 1: have to fall into place, and you had to be

866
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 1: on point with so many things. I remember back in

867
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:13,320
Speaker 1: the Manning year, as we always did these projections on

868
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 1: what their record was going to be. And with Manning,

869
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:18,239
Speaker 1: you start ten and six. When you've got that guy,

870
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 1: it's ten and six, and then it's if things fall

871
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:23,319
Speaker 1: into place eleven and wins the twelve wins if they

872
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 1: really fall into place thirteen or fourteen. That's what that

873
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:30,840
Speaker 1: quarterback does. He gives you a chance every game, Tom Brady.

874
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 1: It was twenty seven to thirteen in the fourth quarter,

875
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:36,839
Speaker 1: but he gave you a chance. Yeah, he has. Things

876
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 1: had to happen, But that guy gives you a chance

877
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 1: every game. Chap, I'm really glad to have you on

878
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:47,320
Speaker 1: for a number of reasons. But you know, after the

879
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:50,759
Speaker 1: weekend of football that we saw and that Chief's Bills game,

880
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 1: I saw a lot of people saying, this is the

881
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 1: early stages of Manning verse Brady in Mahomes versus Allen.

882
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 1: You covered every year of Manning verse Brady here in Indianapolis.

883
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 1: Is that Do you agree with that that this is

884
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 1: that we're seeing in the early states or is there

885
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 1: so much other quarterback talent in the league, whether it's

886
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:15,920
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson, Joe Burrow, justin Herbert specifically in the conference,

887
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 1: that it maybe won't be Mahomes versus Allen every year.

888
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 1: That's a good point because again, Joe Burrow. I mean,

889
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:27,440
Speaker 1: he's pretty impressive too. Nine sacks and you win a game.

890
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:31,400
Speaker 1: Really but but I see what they're saying. But but

891
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:34,320
Speaker 1: again it's you know, will they always be in a

892
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:39,280
Speaker 1: division or a championship game? I don't know. But that's

893
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 1: what's cool is you've got the makings of that. And

894
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 1: what makes it even better is you've got oh, by

895
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:46,320
Speaker 1: the way, we've got three or four of their quarterbacks

896
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:49,480
Speaker 1: justin Herbert, you know, like you said, Lamar Jackson, Burrow.

897
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 1: So that's what's amazing. So I don't know that you're

898
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:58,719
Speaker 1: gonna see the Chiefs and Bills always in the in

899
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 1: that in that game, But I just think it's cool

900
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 1: that these guys are young, and in most cases they're

901
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:10,920
Speaker 1: supporting cast is young and bring it on. I mean,

902
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:13,320
Speaker 1: like Laura said, let them play again Monday night. I

903
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:16,839
Speaker 1: just sat and watched it, and I just think it's

904
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:20,480
Speaker 1: kind of cool that in the NFL. Like I said,

905
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:23,399
Speaker 1: the NFL is such a product that they could throw

906
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:26,359
Speaker 1: scrub teams out there and people have watched and then

907
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:29,920
Speaker 1: you put these people out there. I think it's amazing.

908
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:33,279
Speaker 1: And to see the young quarterbacks in a quarterback driven

909
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:38,439
Speaker 1: league excelling like that. It's just gonna be fun to watch.

910
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:41,359
Speaker 1: But no, I can see the comparisons, and I don't

911
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 1: think people got tired of Brady Manning. I really don't.

912
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 1: And then then you hit Roethlisberger in there along the

913
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:48,879
Speaker 1: way as well, So you have a lot of great

914
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 1: quarterbacks during that time. We're watching it right now during

915
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:54,880
Speaker 1: the NFL playoffs. That's Mike Chappell. Follow him on Twitter

916
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:57,359
Speaker 1: at m Chapel fifty one. I want to figure out

917
00:46:57,400 --> 00:46:59,279
Speaker 1: what that fifty one is later on in the show,

918
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 1: chap But m Chapel fifty one on Twitter. You had

919
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 1: a chance, somehow, some way to connect with the owner

920
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 1: of the Colts, Jim Ursay, after the Jacksonville loss and

921
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:12,400
Speaker 1: that preceded by the Vegas loss. Um, what did you

922
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:14,760
Speaker 1: What did you take away from your chat with the owner?

923
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:18,239
Speaker 1: Is his as far as his mentality, his temperament, and

924
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 1: we've seen on social media they're not done or he's

925
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:24,440
Speaker 1: not done. He says, we're gonna work ti tirelessly to

926
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:26,839
Speaker 1: figure this out. What are you getting from the owner

927
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:31,880
Speaker 1: of this time of year, Mike Chapel, He's furious. He

928
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:39,759
Speaker 1: he was furious and angry and frustrated and disappointed and motivated.

929
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:44,400
Speaker 1: One thing that I think Chris Ballard pointed out, and

930
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 1: it's very true about he said, we embarrassed ourselves, our owner,

931
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 1: and our city. And as you guys know, don't embarrass

932
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:56,759
Speaker 1: Jim Ersay or his brand, his family business. That's that's

933
00:47:57,360 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 1: that's cardinal rule number one. And to sit there and

934
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 1: lose to a two and fourteen Jacksonville team, I don't

935
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 1: want to hear how well they were moving, buloney. They

936
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:10,279
Speaker 1: were two and fourteen. They got meat by forty the

937
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 1: week before. That's inexcusable. I talked to him about forty minutes,

938
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 1: and unfortunately I can only I can only write about

939
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 1: three minutes of it because everything else was way off

940
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 1: the record. But but it just reaffirmed to me his

941
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:32,280
Speaker 1: drive and passion and commitment to have this team relevant

942
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 1: and you know, to be uncompetitive in that game really

943
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:43,280
Speaker 1: really steamed him. And he's gonna do whatever it takes

944
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:48,239
Speaker 1: to ensure that doesn't happen again, whatever it takes. And

945
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 1: I think he again, as everyone mentioned him, meeting him

946
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:57,719
Speaker 1: calling in Frank and Chris after a game after a

947
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:00,239
Speaker 1: loss like that, that just doesn't happen in normal have

948
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 1: the old you know, ten minute cooling off period or

949
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:06,239
Speaker 1: twenty four hour or whatever you want to call it.

950
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:09,319
Speaker 1: But he just had to get some things off his chest,

951
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 1: and he did, and we'll see where this thing goes.

952
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:16,560
Speaker 1: But to think that status quo is gonna rule is wrong.

953
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 1: You don't say made your changes and then sit on

954
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:23,840
Speaker 1: your thumb. So he'll he'll do they'll, they'll do something.

955
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:27,400
Speaker 1: But from my talk with him, he was very upset.

956
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 1: And the one thing that I've learned with Jimmy over

957
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:34,320
Speaker 1: the years is he does get mad, he gets furious,

958
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:39,960
Speaker 1: but but then he realizes that the worst time to

959
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 1: make a major decision of franchise altering decision or whatever,

960
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:47,400
Speaker 1: because when you're mad, you just don't you know, you

961
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:51,040
Speaker 1: you know, go on your office and and sit and

962
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:55,080
Speaker 1: steam and and put some curse words into the air

963
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:57,760
Speaker 1: if you want to. But then you have to settle

964
00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 1: down and make level headed decisions based on what you

965
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 1: know and what you what you believe, and not what

966
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:09,279
Speaker 1: your heart's telling you to do. So again, I'm sure

967
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 1: there was a time after that game, maybe on the

968
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:16,239
Speaker 1: plane ride home, that he was really really steamed, and

969
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 1: I'm sure he still was with when Chris and Frank

970
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:20,319
Speaker 1: were in the room. But you don't make that's when

971
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 1: you don't make I don't care what. You don't make

972
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:26,640
Speaker 1: decisions on anything, whether it's you know, Stephi in your

973
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 1: home or your business or whatever. You don't make those

974
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:32,960
Speaker 1: decisions when you're just irate. You let things sort of

975
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:35,719
Speaker 1: settle down. And I think he's pretty good at ten chef.

976
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:37,920
Speaker 1: There's a lot to look forward to in the coming weeks.

977
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 1: Pro Bowls coming up, the Colts have you know, has

978
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:42,480
Speaker 1: started with seven Pro bowlers and added a couple, you know,

979
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:44,680
Speaker 1: with alternates and and all of those things, and could

980
00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:47,440
Speaker 1: still have some movement in that roster based on you know,

981
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:50,439
Speaker 1: going into this conference championship weekend, could see more people,

982
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 1: more names. And then found out recently Reggie Wayne is

983
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:55,320
Speaker 1: going to be one of the coaches. So it'll be

984
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:57,279
Speaker 1: an exciting few weeks and we'll get into the Hall

985
00:50:57,280 --> 00:50:59,920
Speaker 1: of Fame talk here shortly. But when you mentioned, you know,

986
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:02,480
Speaker 1: that cooling off period, and we heard Chris talk about

987
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:05,759
Speaker 1: having the autopsy postseason and you alluded to it, and

988
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:08,239
Speaker 1: you know, there have to be things addressed when you

989
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:10,920
Speaker 1: have a collapse that we witnessed. Did you get a

990
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 1: good sense of maybe where this will begin in terms

991
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:17,840
Speaker 1: of we know we have Matt Eberflus interviewing for jobs

992
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:20,279
Speaker 1: at Dodd's, Morocco Brown, all of those guys interviewing from

993
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 1: positions outside of that. Do you think there are other

994
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:25,680
Speaker 1: imminent moves or what are the areas that you feel

995
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:28,839
Speaker 1: are the priority to be addressed as we go into

996
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:32,839
Speaker 1: a critical free agency period and then on into the draft. Yeah,

997
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 1: that's one of the awkward things is when you talk

998
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:39,720
Speaker 1: to the owner and he takes your way off the record,

999
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:42,440
Speaker 1: I mean way off the record, and you sort of

1000
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:46,800
Speaker 1: know what what they're they're going to do and you

1001
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 1: can't you can't really talk about it or write about it.

1002
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:54,399
Speaker 1: So yeah, I know, I know what they you want

1003
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 1: to do, and I know pretty much what they're going

1004
00:51:56,640 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 1: to do. So there's things going to things don't want

1005
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:04,120
Speaker 1: to say the same. The problem is, you know, you've

1006
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:09,840
Speaker 1: got issues that this roster is really really put together

1007
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 1: pretty well as far as core, core players, core pieces,

1008
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:18,120
Speaker 1: but the problem is you've got instability at quarterback, and

1009
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 1: Chris mentiontioned that we've got to get more stability quarterbacks.

1010
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:24,480
Speaker 1: But Frank's had a different starter in all four seasons.

1011
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:26,759
Speaker 1: That's ridiculous. You can't grow as a team doing that.

1012
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:31,280
Speaker 1: You've got a question that left tackle. You've got questions

1013
00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 1: at edge pass rusher. You know, Quitty pay looks like

1014
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:38,200
Speaker 1: he's just be pretty good player, but even Chris mench

1015
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:40,560
Speaker 1: And they maybe should have had a veteran guy opposite him.

1016
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 1: You need you need better weapons, a receiver, whether it's

1017
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:50,440
Speaker 1: Carson went through whomever. At quarterback again, you've kind of

1018
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:54,120
Speaker 1: have better weapons and your cornerbacks. You're probably not going

1019
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:56,839
Speaker 1: to resign Zay Road. So the problem is it's as

1020
00:52:56,920 --> 00:53:01,160
Speaker 1: strong as this roster is. The issues they have are

1021
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:03,960
Speaker 1: at are at key key places. When you know, when

1022
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 1: when you're building a team, when you're just building a

1023
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:10,120
Speaker 1: team from scratch, you're thinking, Okay, I need quarterback, I

1024
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 1: need a left tackle, I need I need edge pass rusher,

1025
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:16,720
Speaker 1: I need maybe a stud receiver, I need a stud corner.

1026
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:20,440
Speaker 1: Well that's what that's what this team needs, you know,

1027
00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 1: never mind that you get the offensive line together. I hope,

1028
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 1: by the way, you're going to have to pay a

1029
00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:28,800
Speaker 1: king for ransom that front of the extensive for Clinton Nelson.

1030
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:36,000
Speaker 1: This I totally understand and sort of buy into Chris's

1031
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:40,120
Speaker 1: roster building you know, strong upfront, defense line, offensive line

1032
00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:44,080
Speaker 1: and all that. But I think they've somehow in this

1033
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:47,680
Speaker 1: offseason got to solve the edge stuff with an edge

1034
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 1: pass rusher and a receiver, and not having a first

1035
00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:55,440
Speaker 1: round pick really makes it tough. It does. I think

1036
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:57,839
Speaker 1: they can do out in free agency and solve one

1037
00:53:57,880 --> 00:53:59,800
Speaker 1: of their issues. Maybe too, if you can go second

1038
00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:02,759
Speaker 1: to your corner. I don't know, but you've got you're

1039
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:06,200
Speaker 1: gonna have to. They don't. They're tired of short term

1040
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:11,080
Speaker 1: fixing quarterback left tackle. They don't want that now. As again,

1041
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:13,040
Speaker 1: Chris mentioned that if they have to, they will, but

1042
00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:16,440
Speaker 1: that's not what the last quarterback you need. You need

1043
00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:18,800
Speaker 1: to have the guy there. When you don't have that

1044
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:22,239
Speaker 1: guy there and you're always searching, you you're almost like

1045
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:25,719
Speaker 1: Cleveland or Jackson Bille or somebody who and look how

1046
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 1: that's gone for those people. You don't want to get

1047
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:32,560
Speaker 1: into the quarterback carousel that the cults are on right now. Cheap.

1048
00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:36,280
Speaker 1: But speaking of things that you can't totally talk about,

1049
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:38,640
Speaker 1: you you spent seven and a half hours on a

1050
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:43,239
Speaker 1: zoom talking about Hall of Fame candidates recently, didn't you? Yes,

1051
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:48,600
Speaker 1: and I I was formed with as much secrecy in

1052
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:50,600
Speaker 1: that as I was with Jimmers. I'll tell you what

1053
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:52,920
Speaker 1: I'll do exactly just to get this out of the way,

1054
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 1: Just to get this out of the way. And I

1055
00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:58,239
Speaker 1: did this on a radio earlier. I will blink once

1056
00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:00,319
Speaker 1: if Reggie got in, and I'll blink twice. He did,

1057
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:05,439
Speaker 1: so you're ready. So there you go. That's great, that's great.

1058
00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 1: That's great. Um. Just in general, though, when you look

1059
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:13,080
Speaker 1: at this Hall of Fame class in the fifteen finalists

1060
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:16,760
Speaker 1: and Reggie being a third time finalist and Marvin Harrison

1061
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:19,880
Speaker 1: getting in at a third time being a finalist, what

1062
00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:25,799
Speaker 1: made Reggie Against such a compelling player to be considered

1063
00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:30,200
Speaker 1: for the Pro Football Hall of Fame selection committee? Well,

1064
00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:34,320
Speaker 1: the way it works again, we each guy in that

1065
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:38,239
Speaker 1: player's market gets five minutes to present him and then

1066
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:43,840
Speaker 1: there's long dialogue back for people. And my five minutes

1067
00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:46,360
Speaker 1: I just leant up. I said, you know, the defining

1068
00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:50,680
Speaker 1: issue in Reggie Wayne's career is he is one of

1069
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:55,000
Speaker 1: only two players who rank in the top ten in

1070
00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:59,560
Speaker 1: regular season yards and receptions and postseason yards and receptions,

1071
00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 1: and the other the one is Jerry Rice, you know,

1072
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:04,800
Speaker 1: and this is all about. The Hall of Fame is

1073
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:07,480
Speaker 1: all about you know, did you check the box as

1074
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:13,080
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl? All Pro Pro Bowls? Yes? But did

1075
00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:15,440
Speaker 1: you did you do it for a long period of time?

1076
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:18,600
Speaker 1: And Reggie did for fourteen years? Were you? Were you

1077
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:22,160
Speaker 1: one of the best at your position over long period time?

1078
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:26,920
Speaker 1: Reggie was during his career, that fourteen year career from

1079
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:30,320
Speaker 1: a dozen one to fourteen, he led the league in

1080
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:33,480
Speaker 1: receptions in the yard for fourteen years. I mean, of

1081
00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:36,680
Speaker 1: all the players have played during that stretch. So it's

1082
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:41,319
Speaker 1: I I told somebody once and I don't. I hope

1083
00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:44,799
Speaker 1: this comes out right. I always said I could make

1084
00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:48,640
Speaker 1: a stronger case for Reddy Wayne in the Hall of

1085
00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:54,080
Speaker 1: Fame than Edgren James, even though I didn't. Edgren is

1086
00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:57,000
Speaker 1: a is a tad more of a of a better

1087
00:56:57,480 --> 00:57:02,880
Speaker 1: candidate only because of Reggie's postseason. When you're third or

1088
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:08,359
Speaker 1: fourth all time postseason in receptions and fourth or fifth

1089
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:12,120
Speaker 1: or sixth whatever it is in yards, I mean, that's

1090
00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:14,239
Speaker 1: just crazy that that means that when it got to

1091
00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:17,400
Speaker 1: be the States with the highest you played at a

1092
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:19,120
Speaker 1: high level. I think he that two hundred and twenty

1093
00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:21,680
Speaker 1: one yards against Burgh and oh what an open three

1094
00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:24,640
Speaker 1: or oh four, that's like the fourth highest total ever.

1095
00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:29,160
Speaker 1: So it's just it just baffles me. First of all,

1096
00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:30,960
Speaker 1: I'm still not over the fact that it took Marvin

1097
00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:34,280
Speaker 1: three years that you're here. That's still hampled me up

1098
00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:36,880
Speaker 1: pretty bad that that Marvin had to wait three years.

1099
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:40,400
Speaker 1: That's I'm still not over that. But I just look

1100
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:44,280
Speaker 1: at Reggie's resume and it is so spotless as far

1101
00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:47,280
Speaker 1: as what you want and what what a Hall of

1102
00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:51,840
Speaker 1: Famer is. And that's what bothers me is is is

1103
00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:55,240
Speaker 1: what else what's missing? What do you want? And you know,

1104
00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:59,040
Speaker 1: he led the league in receiving one year, and I

1105
00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:00,760
Speaker 1: just look at the total lout of your work and

1106
00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:05,560
Speaker 1: in the thousand yards seasons and things like that. I

1107
00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:10,000
Speaker 1: just don't know what people want that are still hesitant,

1108
00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:14,640
Speaker 1: that have been hesitant on Reggie. And again, we had

1109
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:17,760
Speaker 1: about a twenty minute debate on Reggie and it was

1110
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:19,320
Speaker 1: one of it was one of the third or fourth

1111
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:22,160
Speaker 1: longest debates, which which is not is not a bad thing.

1112
00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:25,840
Speaker 1: It means it was because once keep in mind, are

1113
00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:29,160
Speaker 1: the fifteen players this year, three of them receivers. It

1114
00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:33,080
Speaker 1: was Reggie Andrey Johnson. This was his first year and

1115
00:58:33,120 --> 00:58:37,400
Speaker 1: then Tory Holt, and do those debates and other things

1116
00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:40,840
Speaker 1: bleed into it? Dude, those debates get heated. You just

1117
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:43,200
Speaker 1: talked about it and you spent fifteen to twenty minutes

1118
00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:45,320
Speaker 1: on it. And Reggie's your guy. I mean, you're you're

1119
00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:48,760
Speaker 1: the ambassador for Reggie, Wayne Edgar and James Marvin Harrison,

1120
00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:54,680
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning, etc. Do those debates get heated somebody like Reggie. No? No,

1121
00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:57,800
Speaker 1: but but there had been times that they had gotten heated. Uh,

1122
00:58:58,440 --> 00:59:03,520
Speaker 1: Terrell Owens several years that that he I don't say

1123
00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:07,440
Speaker 1: he We weren't throwing chairs, but there was some some

1124
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:10,440
Speaker 1: pretty spirited debate. And with Terrell Owens it was like

1125
00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:14,040
Speaker 1: what might be conceived as off field stuff, which which

1126
00:59:14,120 --> 00:59:17,760
Speaker 1: is supposed to not count. But he was like suspended

1127
00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:20,920
Speaker 1: and traded several times, you know, the best player, so

1128
00:59:21,640 --> 00:59:26,600
Speaker 1: that his character did there enter into it. Now with Reggie,

1129
00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:30,360
Speaker 1: now it was just again it gets to be what

1130
00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:32,760
Speaker 1: flavor do you like? I mean, because when you look

1131
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:36,320
Speaker 1: at at Andrey Johnson and Holt and Reggie before they

1132
00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:40,080
Speaker 1: are so close they really are, and which which do

1133
00:59:40,120 --> 00:59:43,120
Speaker 1: you prefer? And I could argue, if I had to argue,

1134
00:59:43,120 --> 00:59:46,040
Speaker 1: for Andrey Johnson, I could argue as strong for him

1135
00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:48,760
Speaker 1: as I do for Reggie. Now, I think Reggie's had

1136
00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:51,840
Speaker 1: a better career, you know. And it's not Reggie's fault

1137
00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:56,480
Speaker 1: that he had Peyton Manning and Andrew Luck for a

1138
00:59:56,600 --> 01:00:00,360
Speaker 1: long time and and Andre Johnson's best cour back with

1139
01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:03,800
Speaker 1: Matt Schob. That's not Reggie's fault, is you know, we

1140
01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:07,560
Speaker 1: didn't doct Andre Reid because he had Jim Kelly for

1141
01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:10,760
Speaker 1: all those years, so that that that shouldn't matter. But

1142
01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:15,640
Speaker 1: it's just which which receiver type do you like? And

1143
01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:18,160
Speaker 1: you know that's why the debate went on as long

1144
01:00:18,200 --> 01:00:19,800
Speaker 1: as it did. We didn't have Dearly as long as

1145
01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:23,160
Speaker 1: it met Devin Hester because he was the only special

1146
01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:26,640
Speaker 1: teams guy. So it's just the makeup of the room

1147
01:00:27,120 --> 01:00:34,000
Speaker 1: as far as the fifteen players. And hopefully we'll get this,

1148
01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:38,800
Speaker 1: you know bottleneck, this pipeline of receivers go on again,

1149
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:40,920
Speaker 1: because once you get three or four receivers in a

1150
01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:44,240
Speaker 1: room at a time, somebody's waiting. And that's what happened

1151
01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:47,200
Speaker 1: with Marvin, you know, his first year, you know, Andre

1152
01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:50,400
Speaker 1: Reid got in ahead of him, and I stood up

1153
01:00:50,440 --> 01:00:52,800
Speaker 1: the next year, I said, I thought we were supposed

1154
01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:54,600
Speaker 1: in this. I shouldn't have done this because I cost

1155
01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:57,800
Speaker 1: Marvin votes. But I said, I thought we were supposed

1156
01:00:57,800 --> 01:01:01,400
Speaker 1: to put in the five best play players. And you're

1157
01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:03,720
Speaker 1: telling me that if you've got Marvin Harrison on one hand,

1158
01:01:04,040 --> 01:01:05,880
Speaker 1: I'm going to read on the other, I'm going to

1159
01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:08,160
Speaker 1: read the better. Well, then I was told I lost

1160
01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:11,680
Speaker 1: the Buffalo vote. I never went to I never went

1161
01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:14,640
Speaker 1: that route again. But yeah, you just have to watch

1162
01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:17,480
Speaker 1: what you say. You'd say what you mean. Okay, Chap,

1163
01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:20,160
Speaker 1: since we're talking about debates here, I have two, and

1164
01:01:20,240 --> 01:01:21,760
Speaker 1: the first one I'm gonna go too. So we were

1165
01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:24,040
Speaker 1: on a zoom call, because of course the latter part

1166
01:01:24,080 --> 01:01:25,920
Speaker 1: of the season, we were all just on zoom. So

1167
01:01:26,040 --> 01:01:28,200
Speaker 1: while we would sit there and wait for coach or

1168
01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:30,080
Speaker 1: whoever it was that particular day, we'd have a little

1169
01:01:30,080 --> 01:01:32,640
Speaker 1: bit of banter and I got Chap on a bit

1170
01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:34,200
Speaker 1: of a rant and it was great. It was so

1171
01:01:34,320 --> 01:01:37,200
Speaker 1: much fun. So can you explain for people that not

1172
01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:41,800
Speaker 1: every franchise market is represented in the Hall of Fame voting?

1173
01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:45,480
Speaker 1: Here we go, and just how ludicrous this is and

1174
01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:48,920
Speaker 1: how biased that is that you don't have all thirty

1175
01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:52,280
Speaker 1: two teams of the organizations representing in the Hall of

1176
01:01:52,320 --> 01:01:56,160
Speaker 1: Fame voting. Well, no, no, no, wait, nuts, it's all

1177
01:01:56,280 --> 01:02:00,440
Speaker 1: thirty two. All markets have a Hall of Fame selector. Okay,

1178
01:02:00,640 --> 01:02:04,080
Speaker 1: it's it's the AP okay which is which is all pro,

1179
01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:07,520
Speaker 1: which you know, I could almost argue is as important

1180
01:02:07,560 --> 01:02:11,120
Speaker 1: as a Hall of Fame because on the one, the

1181
01:02:11,240 --> 01:02:15,000
Speaker 1: one designation that really carries weight nowadays is all pro

1182
01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:20,520
Speaker 1: because the AP that that's the that's the recognized UH

1183
01:02:21,480 --> 01:02:24,880
Speaker 1: awards of the NFL, the MVP that's that, that's the

1184
01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:29,400
Speaker 1: that's the AP voters. And I've I've when I used

1185
01:02:29,400 --> 01:02:32,280
Speaker 1: to be at the Star, I hit my head against

1186
01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:34,400
Speaker 1: so all about what these guys about. How can you

1187
01:02:34,600 --> 01:02:40,760
Speaker 1: possibly not have every franchise every city? And I wouldn't

1188
01:02:40,840 --> 01:02:43,320
Speaker 1: arguing for me, I said, but every city needs to

1189
01:02:43,360 --> 01:02:45,680
Speaker 1: have a voter. And I go back to was it

1190
01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:49,720
Speaker 1: two thousand and three when Peyton and Steve McNair share

1191
01:02:49,920 --> 01:02:54,040
Speaker 1: MPP voting National had a vote, Indie didn't. Well, if

1192
01:02:54,120 --> 01:02:56,840
Speaker 1: if Indie had a vote again, not me, anybody in

1193
01:02:56,920 --> 01:03:01,200
Speaker 1: the city as a vote, then we change history. Steve McNair,

1194
01:03:01,200 --> 01:03:03,160
Speaker 1: as great of a quarterback as he is, wasn't a

1195
01:03:03,240 --> 01:03:06,600
Speaker 1: come MVP. So it's just wrong. And they give you

1196
01:03:06,680 --> 01:03:09,760
Speaker 1: the song and dance and I I finally just said, fine,

1197
01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:12,720
Speaker 1: you guys, do what you want to do. But to

1198
01:03:12,920 --> 01:03:17,600
Speaker 1: not have every city represented and yet you've got some

1199
01:03:18,120 --> 01:03:22,080
Speaker 1: it's so heavily uh slanting towards the East coast it

1200
01:03:22,240 --> 01:03:26,440
Speaker 1: is is wrong. And I that was a battle I

1201
01:03:26,520 --> 01:03:29,040
Speaker 1: tried to fight and finally I said, Okay, you guys win.

1202
01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:31,320
Speaker 1: But it gets wrong. But but the one thing that

1203
01:03:31,400 --> 01:03:34,720
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame does everybody has there is a vote.

1204
01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:38,240
Speaker 1: Now there's so there's there's thirty markets and then there's

1205
01:03:38,360 --> 01:03:42,000
Speaker 1: nineteen at large guys, and they're getting. What I like

1206
01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:45,800
Speaker 1: about it is they're getting more and more I don't

1207
01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:52,080
Speaker 1: say outside unconventional Tony Dungee, Bill Polion, Lisassaulters are. They

1208
01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:56,800
Speaker 1: added that they've added more national people that aren't necessarily

1209
01:03:57,520 --> 01:04:02,000
Speaker 1: you know, conventional news ap folks and all that. The

1210
01:04:02,200 --> 01:04:05,760
Speaker 1: idea has always been. And this always drives me crazy too. Well,

1211
01:04:05,840 --> 01:04:08,080
Speaker 1: you know the media guys, they bring bias into the room.

1212
01:04:08,880 --> 01:04:12,520
Speaker 1: Well you think Bill Polian doesn't have bias on Hayton

1213
01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:15,080
Speaker 1: and Reggie and Edgard I mean Tony, I mean Tony

1214
01:04:15,120 --> 01:04:16,760
Speaker 1: with Derek Brooks and all these are you are you

1215
01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:19,200
Speaker 1: kidding me, Ron Day Barber. I mean, you know we

1216
01:04:19,280 --> 01:04:22,480
Speaker 1: got we got Tony talking up ron Day Barbara. Of

1217
01:04:22,560 --> 01:04:26,600
Speaker 1: course he is. So don't tell me that that everybody

1218
01:04:26,640 --> 01:04:29,120
Speaker 1: in the room doesn't have some biases. I just happen

1219
01:04:29,160 --> 01:04:32,680
Speaker 1: to believe that that the media, which I'm a part of,

1220
01:04:33,520 --> 01:04:36,960
Speaker 1: I can separate any bias I have to where I

1221
01:04:37,080 --> 01:04:42,360
Speaker 1: wonder if a player or a coach can. So none

1222
01:04:42,360 --> 01:04:44,520
Speaker 1: of them are perfect, and that I always see these stories,

1223
01:04:44,520 --> 01:04:46,840
Speaker 1: Well get rid of it until let's let's do it different.

1224
01:04:46,880 --> 01:04:49,560
Speaker 1: Well how somebody had put out there, Well, we need

1225
01:04:49,640 --> 01:04:52,520
Speaker 1: to have this is on the AP voting. We need

1226
01:04:52,560 --> 01:04:56,680
Speaker 1: to have the NFL vote who the NFL what who?

1227
01:04:57,280 --> 01:05:00,440
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, the NFL is is a umbrella.

1228
01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:03,520
Speaker 1: Who you gonna have vote for it? So it's no

1229
01:05:03,680 --> 01:05:06,840
Speaker 1: perfect way. But the way the AP does it is

1230
01:05:06,920 --> 01:05:10,080
Speaker 1: just it's ridiculous. And I'll go to my dying grave

1231
01:05:10,480 --> 01:05:13,880
Speaker 1: saying that they've got to fix it. They won't because

1232
01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:16,320
Speaker 1: they feel the way they're doing us right. But at

1233
01:05:16,400 --> 01:05:19,320
Speaker 1: least it, at least with the Hall of Fame, everybody

1234
01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:22,560
Speaker 1: has a has a voice. Aps not that way and

1235
01:05:22,600 --> 01:05:25,800
Speaker 1: it's just wrong. Member of the Pro Football Hall of

1236
01:05:25,880 --> 01:05:28,760
Speaker 1: Fame selection committee that is Mike Chappell. Follow him on

1237
01:05:28,840 --> 01:05:32,240
Speaker 1: Twitter at m Chapel fifty one. What's the fifty one about?

1238
01:05:32,320 --> 01:05:39,520
Speaker 1: Chap Erra was born? Okay, fair enough, Mike Chapel. So

1239
01:05:39,680 --> 01:05:41,919
Speaker 1: in closing, chap here's what I got from you today.

1240
01:05:41,960 --> 01:05:44,520
Speaker 1: You talked to Jim Mersey after the season ended. You

1241
01:05:44,640 --> 01:05:47,480
Speaker 1: can't tell us what he said. You voted on Reggie

1242
01:05:47,520 --> 01:05:49,520
Speaker 1: Wayne getting into the Hall of Fame. You can't tell

1243
01:05:49,640 --> 01:05:51,960
Speaker 1: us what the vote is. So at least take us

1244
01:05:52,000 --> 01:05:54,080
Speaker 1: out with something you can talk about, and that's another

1245
01:05:54,160 --> 01:05:56,600
Speaker 1: Hall of Famer. I want you to take two minutes

1246
01:05:56,640 --> 01:05:59,240
Speaker 1: and talk about Peyton Manning and something that surprised you

1247
01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:02,880
Speaker 1: off the field, that he's done personally for you, because

1248
01:06:02,960 --> 01:06:05,600
Speaker 1: as I said earlier, you're an ambassador for these guys.

1249
01:06:06,280 --> 01:06:08,880
Speaker 1: You carried the shoe into the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

1250
01:06:09,160 --> 01:06:11,640
Speaker 1: Give me one Peyton story that not many people have heard.

1251
01:06:15,360 --> 01:06:16,840
Speaker 1: It's not what he did for me. He did for me,

1252
01:06:16,960 --> 01:06:20,400
Speaker 1: I guess in my profession is two things. Two things.

1253
01:06:20,800 --> 01:06:23,760
Speaker 1: We talked to him at the Combine in ninety eight.

1254
01:06:24,480 --> 01:06:27,120
Speaker 1: We had him pressed up against the bar Louisiana State

1255
01:06:27,240 --> 01:06:30,120
Speaker 1: Reel at the Crown. They were like twenty I was

1256
01:06:30,440 --> 01:06:33,520
Speaker 1: before the combine with the Monster and we go. And

1257
01:06:33,640 --> 01:06:37,520
Speaker 1: then I went to his workout in Knoxville a month

1258
01:06:37,640 --> 01:06:39,680
Speaker 1: later or whatever, and I passed him in the hallway.

1259
01:06:40,320 --> 01:06:43,720
Speaker 1: He was walking with Polion and Tom Condon. He says,

1260
01:06:43,760 --> 01:06:46,400
Speaker 1: how you doing, Mike. I've never met him one on

1261
01:06:46,480 --> 01:06:49,720
Speaker 1: one in my life, yet he was so schooled on

1262
01:06:49,920 --> 01:06:52,400
Speaker 1: media that he knew who I was. Yeah, it's not

1263
01:06:52,480 --> 01:06:55,000
Speaker 1: it's not a boost to me, but I was stunned.

1264
01:06:55,760 --> 01:06:59,840
Speaker 1: And then all the years that they were primetime game

1265
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Speaker 1: eight o'clock starts and we had newspaper deadlines. He comes

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Speaker 1: in after a loss, the San Diego loss where he

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Speaker 1: throws six interceptions and we're on bad deadlines. He comes

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Speaker 1: he knows we're on deadline. Nobody does that. Well, Peyton

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Speaker 1: did it because he understood that we had jobs to do.

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Speaker 1: And he was as downcast as anybody, but he gave

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Speaker 1: And there's a little stuff like that that made a

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Speaker 1: huge impression with me. Right right, Wow, I'll just love it. Oh,

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Speaker 1: we talk about Hall of Fame. I talk about what

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Speaker 1: happened last year watching Edgern and Peyton go in like that,

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Speaker 1: and obviously you're a catalyst for that, but their play

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Speaker 1: on the field also determined a lot. But again, the

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Speaker 1: ambassador for a lot of Indianapolis colts going into the

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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame, that is Mike chap will Follow him

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Speaker 1: on Twitter at m chap at m Chapel fifty one.

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Speaker 1: Fifty one was the year he was born. Chap, I

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Speaker 1: so appreciate the help, because you know, it's the offseason.

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Speaker 1: We got a lot of moves that are going to

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Speaker 1: be shaken with Chris Chris Ballard, Frank Wright and Jim

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Speaker 1: Rsey in the front office. We want to keep in

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Speaker 1: touch with you. Follow him on Twitter again at m

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Speaker 1: Chapel fifty one. Mike, I appreciate the help. Stay in touch, guys,

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Speaker 1: always will chat. Thanks ja yea, guys, that was great.

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Speaker 1: your Indianapolis Colts, for JJ Stakovts, for Lara Overton. I

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Speaker 1: am Jeffrey Gorman. Guys. I so appreciate the time today.

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Speaker 1: Let's do it again next week because we will have

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Speaker 1: course what the Colts are gonna do. How's that sound

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Speaker 1: sounds great? I'm in okay, JJ. You were a little

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Speaker 1: I mean, that was like a fart in church right there.

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Speaker 1: Can you get a little excitement please listen. It's it

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Speaker 1: was an early morning for me here, Jeffrey. That's about

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