1 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 1: It's that time, time, time, time, Luck and Load Michael 2 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 1: Varie Show is on the air. In the radio business 3 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 1: is called an appointment setting. It could be the fact 4 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:28,640 Speaker 1: that we play the Captain Kangaroo or Oh Happy Day. 5 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:33,160 Speaker 1: It's a way that using a sonic, using sound, it's 6 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 1: a way that you said, a moment and a reminder. 7 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 1: In musicals, you have what's known as a late motif, 8 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 1: which is also when a character walks in his music 9 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 1: kind of sets the tone. Well, we have done an 10 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 1: Easter special on the good Friday before Easter for years 11 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 1: and today is no different. And we call back Pastor 12 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 1: ed Young a conversation with we had with him a 13 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 1: couple of years ago, because y'all seem to have loved 14 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 1: it so much, and frankly, so did we. Pastor Young. 15 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:07,039 Speaker 1: I'm going to ask you to start us with the 16 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 1: Book of Luke. The Gospels of Luke talk about the 17 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 1: Easter story, but if you could, can you put into 18 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 1: context why the Easter story is important? 19 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 2: A plus question, Michael, I'll tell you that, you know, 20 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 2: I sort of came to myself the early part of 21 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 2: this week, by the way, Luke is so important because 22 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 2: of the way he handles history. Luke wrote more of 23 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 2: the New Testament than anybody else. You think, John and 24 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 2: Paul know Luke. He wrote acts, you remember, and he 25 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 2: wrote the Gospel of Luke. More verses are written by Luke. 26 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 2: Luke maybe the only gentile who has written anything in 27 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 2: the Bible. He was a medical doctor, as you know, 28 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 2: and a astute historian. So you have touched my number 29 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 2: one guy. I love the Gospel of Luke more than 30 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 2: anything else. But I think what you're asking me is 31 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:11,360 Speaker 2: the same identical question, Michael, that the church in Carn't 32 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 2: asked Paul. The most definitive chapter in all the Bible, 33 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 2: and answering all the questions you and I would ask 34 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 2: is First Corinthians, chapter fifteen. And what you gave me 35 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 2: a little cheap note uphead where we talked about you remember, 36 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 2: did what you ask thee to think about, Michael is 37 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 2: exactly what they asked the apostle Paul in chapter fifteen 38 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 2: of First Corinthians. And they said, but someone will say 39 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 2: verse thirty five, how are the dead rays? Oh? And 40 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:50,679 Speaker 2: with what kind of body do they have? What kind 41 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 2: of body do they come with? And that's exactly what 42 00:02:56,400 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 2: Easter is all about. Also, this past Monday, I woke 43 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:04,919 Speaker 2: up early thinking about Easter, all this week, all the services, 44 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 2: everything we have. And then I said, you know, I'm 45 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 2: sort of a hypocrite. I have not exactly expressed in 46 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 2: all these years of preaching on Christmas and preaching on Easter, 47 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 2: because every Christmas, Michael, I say, this is the most 48 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 2: important date in history. And then I turned around in 49 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 2: Eastern I said, oh no, I said no, no, no, 50 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 2: Easter is the most important day in history. So you 51 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 2: know both cannot be true. So I sat down, I said, 52 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 2: all right, what's the difference in Christmas and Easter. They're 53 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 2: both over the top, vital, important facts in history. And 54 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 2: then I came up with this. I just said, Christmas 55 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 2: is the most important event in God's history. Now what 56 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 2: does that mean? That means all the prophecy of the 57 00:03:55,720 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 2: Old Testament, the promise that God would visit this earth Messiah, 58 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 2: God would put on human flesh and live among us. 59 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 2: That was fulfilled in Christmas, and that was thousand years 60 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 2: of prophecy. I said, all right, Christmas is the most 61 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 2: important event in God's history. Then I thought about what 62 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 2: about Easter. Easter is the most important event in Man's 63 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 2: history because Michael Easter answers the question, is there life 64 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 2: after death? How do we know? Can we be sure? 65 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:36,720 Speaker 2: Is it a myth? Is it legend? Is it absolutely true? Truth? 66 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:39,720 Speaker 2: So what you gave me the head up to deal 67 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:43,279 Speaker 2: with was how the dead raised and what kind of 68 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 2: body they'll have? Paul answers it in one Corinthians fifteen. 69 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 2: Is it at interesting? 70 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 1: It is interesting? And well, anyway, I'm sorry, go ahead, 71 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 1: I'm going to get distracted and take you off a 72 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:58,280 Speaker 1: rabbit trail and I know you've got to. 73 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 2: You can take me down trail. Hey, you taking me 74 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:05,479 Speaker 2: down there before? Michael, So did you? Yes? I have? 75 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 1: So did you come to the conclusion that Easter is 76 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 1: the most important day of the year, end of history? 77 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:18,160 Speaker 1: Because it is? It is why the resurrection? 78 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:22,839 Speaker 2: That amen? Amen? And we've all lost loved When you 79 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:26,719 Speaker 2: lost your brother fairly recently, I've lost a wife, I've 80 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 2: lost my parents, and I lost a younger brother. So 81 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:32,359 Speaker 2: all of a sudden, you know, Michael, this thing of 82 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 2: Eastern becomes all important to us personally, and then we 83 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:40,600 Speaker 2: sit down and say it's important to the history of humanity. 84 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:44,279 Speaker 2: So let me answer those questions just like Paul did 85 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:48,359 Speaker 2: they asked, well, how the dead raised? What kind of 86 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 2: body do you have? And Paul answered, you know, he said, 87 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 2: he said, you fool. He said that which you soul 88 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 2: does not come to life unless it dies. And he 89 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:05,719 Speaker 2: talks of that resurrection is a natural thing in civilization, 90 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 2: in life, he said, But God give us the body 91 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:12,480 Speaker 2: just as he wished, and each one of the seeds 92 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 2: the body of his own. First thirty nine, he said, 93 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 2: all flesh is not the same flesh. But there's one 94 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 2: fleash of men, and the other flesh of bees, and 95 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 2: the other flesh of birds, and other flesh of fish. 96 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 2: He said, they're also heavenly bodies and earthly bodies. But 97 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:31,839 Speaker 2: the glory of the heavenly is one and the glory 98 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 2: of the earthly is another. Now he talks about the 99 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 2: glory of the sun, the moon, et cetera. Said, what 100 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 2: does he say? He is saying simply, resurrection is a 101 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 2: natural thing in life. Michael, You and I fish with worms. 102 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:51,359 Speaker 2: We have fish with caterpillars. And it's amazing to me 103 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:55,160 Speaker 2: that that caterpillar can go in that cocoon and come 104 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 2: out a butterfly. It's amazing to me that tadpole can 105 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:03,039 Speaker 2: come out a frog. It's amazing to me that you 106 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:05,039 Speaker 2: can put a seed in the ground, and I come 107 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:09,479 Speaker 2: from a Bucolic redneck background in Mississippi, as you do 108 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 2: in Texas, and that seed will come up and whatever 109 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 2: that seed and it dies, it comes up corn, or 110 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 2: it comes up tomatoes or whatever's planet. So the whole 111 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 2: idea of change and resurrection is built in the fabric 112 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 2: of nature. So resurrection is a natural thing, and therefore 113 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 2: we come and see the resurrection also is a supernatural thing. 114 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 2: And we know that Jesus was imperishable to the right 115 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 2: hand of God Divinity in heaven. He came to earth, 116 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 2: he became imperishable, and that means he became human like us. 117 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 2: And so we talk about the resurrection is natural. We 118 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 2: see it in nature. Also it is supernatural, and he 119 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 2: says in verse so also the resurrection of the dead 120 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 2: is sown a perishable body. That's when we die, is 121 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 2: raised an imperishable body. 122 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 1: I'm gonna hold you there, Pastor a young Second Baptist 123 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 1: Church in Houston, is our guest, and we will continue 124 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 1: our conversation about the meaning of Easter to us. 125 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 2: The fush Era in Texas ends today. 126 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 1: The Michael Berry Show, Pastor, I interrupted you. You were 127 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 1: talking about the Book of Loop and you were talking 128 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 1: about the importance of Easter. I would like to for 129 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 1: folks who have never had this experience, maybe they hadn't 130 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 1: been to church since they were a child, maybe they 131 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 1: have a rough estimation. Let's talk about the actual the 132 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 1: actual moment around which this happens, and what the Bible 133 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 1: says happens and what that means. Can you go through 134 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 1: that for us bit by bit and by the way, 135 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 1: we're going to be in the Book of Luke presumably. 136 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:07,680 Speaker 2: Well, I've moved back into Corinthians a little bit because 137 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 2: they matched. Corinthians really explains Luke is a historical part primarily, 138 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 2: as you know, Michael, But Corinthians explains to us what 139 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 2: the history is all about. Now, if you talk about 140 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 2: historical this is interesting. There is more evidence that Jesus 141 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 2: Christ was bodily raised by the Father from the dead, 142 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 2: then there is evidence that Julius Caesar ever conquered Britain. 143 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 2: In other words, the truth of the resurrection of the body. 144 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 2: It has more historical verification and evidence. And Michael, you 145 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 2: used to be a. 146 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 1: Law you remember, it's been a while, but I do all. 147 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 2: Right when you go into court. If you've got circumstantial evidence, 148 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 2: that's overwhelming, right, and then you've got eyewitness evidence, that's 149 00:09:55,800 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 2: empirical evidence, that's overwhelming. Michael, you'll win that case every time. 150 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 2: I'm correct, you'd hope, so, yes, I think you would. 151 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 2: And that's what we have in the Resurrection of Christ. 152 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:11,680 Speaker 2: We see there on that Easter morn. We know the 153 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 2: first people they went to the grave, what did they see? 154 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 2: From a distance, they would have seen a giant stone 155 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:21,599 Speaker 2: rolled away. They were way anywhere from a ton and 156 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 2: a half to two tons. And then they would ask 157 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 2: the question, I'm sure, wasn't that stone put over the 158 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 2: grave of Jesus had the Roman seal around it? And 159 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 2: nobody in that day would break a Roman seal because 160 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 2: it would be immediately punished by death. And then they 161 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:44,439 Speaker 2: would go and they would look into the tomb. They'd 162 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 2: see that it is empty. They'd look at the grave clothes, 163 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:50,439 Speaker 2: and they would see that they were like a chrystalis. 164 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 2: They were still in the form of the body, and 165 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 2: they were looking there and they would see a napkin 166 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 2: neatly folded. All of this is circumstantial evidence. You wonder 167 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 2: what happened. And then you would see the napkin, interesting 168 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 2: has real importance for it, just a napkin folded there. 169 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 2: The body is gone. Here's the sort of the shadow 170 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 2: of the body, the cloth still there, the burial garments 171 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 2: still came. The napkin tells you two things. First of all, 172 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 2: in that moment of history, if you were eating and 173 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 2: you were coming back, you got up to door, do 174 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 2: something else, you would fold your napkin. If you were 175 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:31,720 Speaker 2: not coming back, you just put your napkin down your chair. 176 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 2: By the way, Michael, this is what we should do today. Incidentally, 177 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:39,319 Speaker 2: and so when they saw that folded napkin in retrospect, 178 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 2: they would say, he's gone and he is coming back. 179 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 2: And then you would see that's a little side street. 180 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 2: Then you would see also other questions being asked, what 181 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:54,200 Speaker 2: about those Roman guards who were there. There's a whole 182 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 2: explanation for that. And you go on and you see, 183 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 2: then the eyewitness accounts is that I could give a 184 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 2: lot of circumstantial evidence, forensic evidence, but then the empirical 185 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 2: evidence would be eye witness accounts. Jesus dead three days, 186 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 2: the Father raised him from the dead, and then you 187 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:19,320 Speaker 2: see eleven different appearances over forty days, and all kinds 188 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:22,680 Speaker 2: of circumstances, to people who did not believe him, to 189 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 2: people who doubted him, to his friends, to family, and 190 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 2: finally to five hundred men. And that would mean the 191 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:32,719 Speaker 2: women would not even be counted in that day, or 192 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 2: the teenagers or the children. And then you have all 193 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 2: of these evidences of that. And to give you an illustration, 194 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 2: you as an attorney, if you had five hundred witnesses 195 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:48,080 Speaker 2: and they testified, say, oh, six minutes of peace, you 196 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:53,320 Speaker 2: would have over fifty hours of personal witnesses saying he 197 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:56,319 Speaker 2: was dead, I saw him with the cross and buried, 198 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 2: and he is alive. You know, I think that's the 199 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:01,440 Speaker 2: case that even I I could win. So you have 200 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:04,840 Speaker 2: this tremendous evidence of the truth of the resurrection. 201 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 1: Pastor ed Young of Second Baptist Church is our guests. 202 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:13,960 Speaker 1: With Easter upon us today being Good Friday and Easter 203 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 1: being two days away, let me ask you Good Friday, 204 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:23,200 Speaker 1: the day of Jesus' crucifixion, talk a minute, if you would, 205 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 1: or more than a few minutes about that crucifixion. Why 206 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 1: was that important as part of everything that was to 207 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 1: be that being one of the major stages in that. 208 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 2: Well. Let me say this reverently, Michael. You are known 209 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 2: for your rever so you just say things as they are. 210 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 2: I'll say this, rep am. I right. 211 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 1: You have said for years, Michael, I enjoy your show, 212 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:54,680 Speaker 1: but sometimes you say some things that make me cringe. 213 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:58,320 Speaker 1: You know what, You've been very consistent, and I appreciate that. 214 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 2: Michael. Let me say this, and I say this irreverently. 215 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 2: Number one, Jesus was a garbage collector. What he did 216 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 2: on that cross, he took all the shame, the lust, 217 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:18,679 Speaker 2: the hypocrisy, the lives, the phoniness, all of that on himself, 218 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 2: all of your garbage and all of my garbage, and 219 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 2: for that matter, of the world's garbage. And then that 220 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 2: was the only time that the Father turned away from him. God, 221 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 2: the Father, he says, my God, my God, why have 222 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 2: you forsaken me? The reason was God is holy. He 223 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 2: cannot look and tolerate any form of trash any time, anywhere, 224 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:47,359 Speaker 2: And here all of that went on Jesus, and Jesus 225 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 2: paid the price that you and I should pay for 226 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 2: all of our trash, and so we will not have 227 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 2: to pay the price when we die and leave this 228 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 2: earth and so Jesus says, went to hell, and hell 229 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 2: is the absence of God. And that's exactly what happened 230 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 2: to Jesus on the cross. He took all of our 231 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 2: stuff and took all the penalty that you and I 232 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 2: deserve upon himself, so that when we receive him in 233 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 2: our life convicted of sin, confession of sin, reception of Jesus, 234 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 2: my my, then we have a new life, a new 235 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 2: life in him. Now. He took all of that. So 236 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 2: the heavenly Father, he looks at Michael Barry had young 237 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 2: anyone else who's in Christ, and say, hey, you're perfect 238 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 2: in my sight. And we had to be perfect. Oh, 239 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 2: we never get to heaven. We never would make it 240 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 2: perfection on this earth. Christ demonstrated that perfection, took that 241 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 2: upon himself, and our God is a just God, and 242 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 2: that satisfied his justice. And this gives us a way 243 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 2: to know that when we're absent for the body in 244 00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 2: this life, Michael, we're present with a life Lord Almighty 245 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 2: in heaven, as we'll talk about in a minute, with 246 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 2: that new resurrection body. 247 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 1: Pastor hold us, yes it does, Pastor Edjung As our guest, 248 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 1: will continue our conversation about Easter, the Resurrection, Why it 249 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 1: matters today? 250 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 2: Coming on? 251 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 1: So you're leaving a restaurant. It didn't valet park it 252 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 1: cars a few blocks away. It's later than you realized. 253 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 1: You had a drink or two, and you're walking back. 254 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 1: You're still you're still able to drive. Maybe your wife's 255 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 1: gonna drive because she hasn't had anything to drink, could move, 256 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 1: don't drive drunk. So you're walking back and now all 257 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 1: of a sudden you realize there's nobody out, and it's 258 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 1: dark and it's late, and all of a sudden, one guy, 259 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 1: maybe two starts heading your direction, and it's pretty clear 260 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 1: they're not out on an evening walk. There's no dog 261 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 1: that they're trying to get, you know, to go out 262 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 1: and pee. This is not good. And you don't have 263 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 1: your gun on you because you couldn't carry your gun 264 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 1: into the thirty six bar. You don't have your gun. 265 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 1: She doesn't have her gun. What do you do? Well? 266 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 1: In her purse was her burna less lethal launcher, So 267 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 1: she puts her hand on it, or maybe she hands 268 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 1: it to you, and you prepare yourself to defend yourself, 269 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 1: to hopefully incapacitate some fool for long enough to get away. 270 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 1: Burna BYRNA dot com. Michael, do I have a story 271 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:22,120 Speaker 1: for you My brother in law murdered too. Native American 272 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:28,480 Speaker 1: Michael Showy, you have my attention of the. 273 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:30,359 Speaker 2: God. 274 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 1: The annual markers we have on the show. I find 275 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:37,199 Speaker 1: the adoption special we do to be very emotional for 276 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 1: me and very powerful Mother's Day, Father's Day, and hopefully 277 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:46,120 Speaker 1: we make people better mothers and fathers out of it. 278 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:49,680 Speaker 1: When we celebrate our veterans. I think hopefully it gives 279 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 1: some pride to our veterans and it makes folks more willing, 280 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:56,439 Speaker 1: you know, to reach out and thank them and not 281 00:17:56,520 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 1: take them for granted. Our Easter Friday, Good Friday Easter 282 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 1: Show always reminds me in such a poignant way of 283 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:14,879 Speaker 1: the uplifting message of resurrection and the uplifting message of 284 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:18,440 Speaker 1: my faith. And intuitively we know that John three point 285 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 1: sixteen right, but it's just good. And I think Pastor 286 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 1: ed Young who was for many years, he's no longer 287 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 1: the lead pastor at Second Baptist, his son Veniz, but 288 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 1: for so many years he was the pastor, and I've 289 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 1: always felt this is such a good message. So that's 290 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 1: why we pull this one out and dusted it off 291 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 1: because I think it's it's just perfect for our time. Pastor, 292 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:42,399 Speaker 1: I want to rewind you. We've been talking about Easter 293 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:47,639 Speaker 1: and the Sunday. I want to rewind you to Good Friday, 294 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:51,640 Speaker 1: the day of the crucifixion, and put in the perspective 295 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 1: what happened there. Christ was not the only person who 296 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:57,919 Speaker 1: was put upon across He was not the only person 297 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:02,360 Speaker 1: who was to be stoned today. But this was an 298 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 1: important part of everything that was supposed to happen, happening 299 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 1: such that Easter and the Resurrection could happen. Describe what 300 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 1: was going on at that time and how this came 301 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 1: to be. 302 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 2: Well, you know, first of all, Jesus was someone who 303 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:25,640 Speaker 2: always swam upstream. People say, you know, Jesus didn't get 304 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 2: involved in politics. You're involved in politics, Michael, I've gotten 305 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 2: involved in politics. You say, why Jesus I think was 306 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:41,879 Speaker 2: a master politician. Politics, in this purest definition, means relationships. 307 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:46,160 Speaker 2: It has to do relationships. And Jesus was God's son 308 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 2: or relationship with the Father. And then Jesus moved out 309 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:53,440 Speaker 2: in relationships in the world. And so I say Jesus 310 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 2: got in trouble because he stood against the Pharisees, the Sadducees, 311 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 2: as needs, the Erodients, all the political parties of that day. 312 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:06,640 Speaker 2: You say they weren't political, they most certainly were, because 313 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:10,199 Speaker 2: there was a theocracy, you know, spiritual things combined with 314 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:13,400 Speaker 2: physical things. And when he stood in the way, when 315 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:16,119 Speaker 2: he cleansed the temple of all the con artists and 316 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:19,200 Speaker 2: money changers that were there, and all those who were 317 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 2: fleecing the people, man, that was a political statement, and 318 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:26,359 Speaker 2: that would sort, I think, Mike Michael the last straw. 319 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 2: They said, we got to get rid of this guy. 320 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 2: And that's the background, a partial background of why they 321 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:39,880 Speaker 2: nailed him to the cross. An innocent man found guilty, 322 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 2: and then God used that to provide for you and 323 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 2: me a way to get right with him now and 324 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 2: get right for him with him forever. So you can 325 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:55,359 Speaker 2: take three symbols and you can cover Christianity if you 326 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:58,120 Speaker 2: fill the gaps. And the first would be a cradle, 327 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 2: and the second cross two big hunks of wood nailed 328 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 2: together to kill somebody. And the third would be an 329 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 2: open cave the tomb. You take those three things right there, 330 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 2: very simple, very practical, and you have the whole thrust 331 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:19,879 Speaker 2: of Christianity. Jesus died so that we might know the truth, 332 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 2: and the truth will set you free. If we don't 333 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 2: know the truth, what happens. We're not set free. We're 334 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:29,359 Speaker 2: in bondage. And those the world needs to know the 335 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 2: truth that they can know God. God's made himself obatable. 336 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:37,439 Speaker 2: We can turn away from the trash in our life 337 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 2: and repent and receive him, and he gives us brand 338 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 2: new life and the promise Michael, of a resurrected body 339 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 2: in heaven. And I want to talk about that resurrected 340 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 2: body if we could, just like Paul does here in 341 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 2: Corinthians Perfect, go ahead. Well, the thing about it, your 342 00:21:56,800 --> 00:22:01,200 Speaker 2: body and my body, we are deteriorating now in great shape, 343 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 2: you fast. I know that you've lost a thousand pounds. 344 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:07,400 Speaker 2: How much have you lost, Michael, seventy pounds? 345 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 1: Thank you. 346 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:11,880 Speaker 2: There you go, There you go. And so that's the temple. 347 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 2: But we know, regardless of how well we eat, run, jog, vitamins, 348 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:20,159 Speaker 2: et cetera, there's gonna come a time in this body 349 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 2: that we now have, as magnificent as it is, is 350 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 2: going to wear out and we're gonna stop breathing, and 351 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 2: we're gonna graduate from this life. What happens? Then here's 352 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 2: the thing. Your body in my body is not built 353 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 2: for eternity. Correct, it's not built. It's not gonna hold up. 354 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:44,880 Speaker 2: It's gonna be. We we're gonna waste a weigh. This 355 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 2: old body is gonna rock. What's gonna happen? If we're 356 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:52,679 Speaker 2: in Christ. We get a resurrection body. And this, you know. 357 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 2: I start all by saying it is natural, the revelation. 358 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:02,159 Speaker 2: Resurrection is natural. It's also supernatural. But then Paul tells 359 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 2: us the kind of body we're going to be. It's beautiful. 360 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:08,359 Speaker 2: He says, Behold, I tell you a mystery. This the 361 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 2: fifty first verse of first For instance, we will not 362 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 2: all sleep, let's die. We will be changed. And in 363 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:17,399 Speaker 2: a moment, in the twinkling of an eye of the 364 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 2: last trumpet, for the trumpet shall sound and the dead 365 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:25,920 Speaker 2: will be raised, get this imperishable and will be changed 366 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 2: for this perishable. That's your body, my body. Now everybody's 367 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:34,880 Speaker 2: body must put on the imperishable, and this mortal must 368 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 2: put on immortality. We get a resurrection body. The prototype 369 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:45,640 Speaker 2: Michael is a resurrection body Jesus had when God raised 370 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 2: him from the dead. And he lived on this earth 371 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 2: for forty days. He ate fish, he fried fish. He said, hey, Dalton, 372 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 2: Thomas didn't believe that he could come back. And then 373 00:23:57,560 --> 00:23:59,879 Speaker 2: Jesus said, look at my hands, look at my feet. 374 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 2: He had a physicality to him. But also he could 375 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 2: go from here to there, and he was in another dimension. 376 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 2: He could walk right through walls and appear. That is 377 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:14,399 Speaker 2: a prototype of the resurrection body that we'll have in Christ, 378 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:19,159 Speaker 2: in Paradise forever. That's what your brother has right now, 379 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:23,359 Speaker 2: That's what families have everyone who died in Christ. So 380 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:27,119 Speaker 2: that's a beautiful promise to me. And Paul ends up 381 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 2: in here. He says, oh, Death, where's your victory? Death, 382 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:34,719 Speaker 2: where's your steam? The sting of death is sin, and 383 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 2: sin was taken care of by Jesus, our garbage collector 384 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:41,200 Speaker 2: on the cross. And the power of sin is the 385 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 2: law do right, do wrong, the law that just diagnoses 386 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 2: when we filed up and when we strike out or 387 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 2: we fumble. But then Paul says, but thanks be the 388 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:57,200 Speaker 2: God who gives us the victory. True, Jesus Christ, our lord. 389 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:02,119 Speaker 2: You see the bottom line, Michael. Because Jesus conquered the gray, 390 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:05,639 Speaker 2: we too, quill conquer the gray. To be absent from 391 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:09,440 Speaker 2: the body is to be present with the Lord. 392 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,119 Speaker 1: I'm gonna hold you out there. We will finish up 393 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 1: the show with Pastor ed Young of Second Baptist Church 394 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:18,879 Speaker 1: and talking about how this message relates to our world, 395 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:23,440 Speaker 1: our lives. On this day coming up, the DA filed 396 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 1: emotion against my chief of Stuff. 397 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 2: That is enough evidence we had better throw those bombs 398 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 2: out of office. 399 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 1: I was asking my email, where we end up interviewing 400 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 1: another pastor for our Easter message going forward? Maybe maybe 401 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:46,960 Speaker 1: I don't intend to play Pastor ed Young every year. 402 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 1: Maybe we'll put a year or two in between. But 403 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 1: I have to tell you that listening to it to 404 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:56,359 Speaker 1: make sure that there weren't references to, you know, a 405 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 1: church service that's not actually coming up because it was 406 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:01,440 Speaker 1: in the past, to it and hearing the message again 407 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 1: before now, I just find it such a wonderful message. 408 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:09,680 Speaker 1: And I've watched a lot of Easter specials. In fact, 409 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 1: our Saturday podcast tomorrow is the Reverend Billy Graham standing 410 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:20,120 Speaker 1: in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, in the rain on a stormy night, 411 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:26,440 Speaker 1: talking about another stormy night when Christ was crucified, and 412 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:30,119 Speaker 1: it's just a beautiful, beautiful message. And you know, Reverend 413 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 1: d Young comes from that line of pastors, and I 414 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 1: don't know, I just maybe it appeals just to me. 415 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 1: I'd love to hear from you what you think. But 416 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,920 Speaker 1: here you go. I'm going to shut off my mic 417 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 1: and I'm going to give you up until thirty seconds 418 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:47,920 Speaker 1: left in this segment, which is about seven minutes, to 419 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 1: talk about how we can apply this Easter message to 420 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 1: our own lives. 421 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 2: Go ahead, Pastor ed Young, when we received Christ into 422 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:03,920 Speaker 2: our lives in John ten ten, I have come that 423 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 2: you might have life and have it more abundantly, and 424 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:14,159 Speaker 2: that is life. Now when we come to Christ and 425 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 2: let him become not only our savior but our Lord 426 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:21,160 Speaker 2: to run our life, and it tells us how we'll 427 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 2: have life forever, so that abundant life begins now, the 428 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:30,679 Speaker 2: resurrection life actually begins. Now we have a new life. 429 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:35,160 Speaker 2: We are changed, and we use the old expression, biblical 430 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:39,879 Speaker 2: expression being born again. Isn't that something old things have 431 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 2: passed away? When we receive Christ, we don't get better, 432 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 2: we don't improve, We just become brand new creations of God. 433 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 2: And the resurrection power. Can you imagine the amount of 434 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 2: power it took for the Father to take Jesus, who 435 00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:01,359 Speaker 2: was dead three days and take that dead body and 436 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:05,160 Speaker 2: bring it back to life. What kind of power is that. 437 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:08,880 Speaker 2: That's the power that we receive and we get when 438 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 2: we receive Jesus Christ. I said, well, I don't feel 439 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:14,920 Speaker 2: like I have that power. We don't use it, don't 440 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:18,159 Speaker 2: we use this a small bit of that resurrection power. 441 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 2: And that resurrection power that we have, it changes our minds, 442 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,199 Speaker 2: our hearts, our motives, and all of a sudden we 443 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:31,440 Speaker 2: begin to get insight into the broken, godless, woke culture 444 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 2: that is this overwhelming us in our land. Christ wants 445 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 2: to come and use you and use me to be 446 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 2: the salt, the light, the key, the leaven to change 447 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 2: this world. So all I'm responsible for is my little 448 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 2: rim of the Kingdom of God here now as a 449 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 2: person who is in Christ. And that's all your responsible for. 450 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 2: When we begin to let the light of God and 451 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 2: Christ shine in our lives, the darkness that we feel 452 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 2: that is pervading all around us, we will let this 453 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 2: little light shine for him. Jesus came that there may 454 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 2: be light in sight wisdom, And so I would say, 455 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 2: wherever you are, whatever your circumstances. You say, well, I'm 456 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 2: limited here. I have this. Use that for God and 457 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:32,080 Speaker 2: for Christ, and let him work in and through your life. 458 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:35,000 Speaker 2: You know, God only has your hands, my hands, your feet, 459 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:38,240 Speaker 2: my feet, your mind, my eyes. That's all he has, 460 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 2: but my goodness, if we turn that over to him 461 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:45,720 Speaker 2: and let the resurrection power of Christ live in us, 462 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 2: all of a sudden, you know what happens. Death is dead. 463 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 2: That's a big thing to live as though you're already 464 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 2: in heaven. Heaven begins now in one sense, because death 465 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 2: is dead. Not that there's not fear and apprehension, but 466 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:07,560 Speaker 2: it is dead and crucified. Because we know to be 467 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 2: in Christ, to be absent from this body, to be 468 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 2: present with the Lord. And this gives us a freedom. 469 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:18,240 Speaker 2: This gives us a liberty, and this gives us I 470 00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:21,480 Speaker 2: don't like the word hope. The biblical word for hope 471 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 2: is not our word. We say, well, our hope it 472 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 2: will happen. That's not the biblical word. The biblical word 473 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 2: for hope is I look forward to You don't say 474 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 2: I hope the sun's going to come. But in the morning, 475 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:35,720 Speaker 2: we know the rotation of the earth around the sun. 476 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 2: It's going to appear to come from the Morning. That's assured, 477 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 2: and that's the way. It is a biblical hope. We 478 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,600 Speaker 2: know to be added from this body. It is to 479 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 2: be present with the Lord. And we know that death 480 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 2: is dead. And in that light we can serve in freedom, 481 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 2: in liberty without fear, and we can make a difference 482 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 2: in the broken world world in which we live. Other 483 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 2: than that, we're just breathing air and going through the 484 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,960 Speaker 2: monotony of life and trying to do this. And trying 485 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 2: to do this, we put Christ in the center, this 486 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 2: resurrected Lord. I can tell you, ladies and gentlemen, that 487 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:19,760 Speaker 2: will change you. And everybody will say, boy, what's happened 488 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:23,480 Speaker 2: to bell Man? You know, Alice is different. Alice has 489 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 2: simply said, I've got out of the way myself, my selfishness, 490 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 2: and I'm going to let God work in my life. 491 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:32,000 Speaker 2: Doesn't mean we walk around with pull bit Bibles under 492 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 2: our arm, but it means we walk around as light 493 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:40,960 Speaker 2: barrows in a world that sold desperately needs truth and 494 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 2: light to shine in every endeavor in which we're part. 495 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:48,760 Speaker 1: Pastor, I'm going to stop you there and ask that 496 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 1: you do one more thing before we close the show. 497 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,720 Speaker 1: I've got about a minute and a half and I 498 00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 1: want to ask you to pray for our listeners and 499 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:01,960 Speaker 1: for this great country, if you would. 500 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:07,840 Speaker 2: Please, Dear Heavenly Father, all of us this moment know 501 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 2: that America is in trouble, that the world is in trouble, 502 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 2: and we talk about it, we discuss it, we express 503 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:23,680 Speaker 2: to one another that and we see where we are 504 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:28,240 Speaker 2: that America's son has somehow has wandered away from the 505 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 2: basic principles of being a Judeo Christian nation under a 506 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:38,280 Speaker 2: constitution that was written and framed in prayer by God 507 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 2: fearing men. Lord, May we return to you, may return 508 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 2: to your body, the Church, and realize that that's what 509 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 2: the institution you have put in this world to permeate 510 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 2: everything else. And we know the gates of hell will 511 00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:56,760 Speaker 2: not prevail against your Church. And we see the gates 512 00:32:56,760 --> 00:33:00,960 Speaker 2: of hell being erected around our government, our White House 513 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:07,280 Speaker 2: in Austin, our schools, our institutions, our entertain We see 514 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:10,320 Speaker 2: gates of hell all around these things. Father, But we 515 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:14,400 Speaker 2: know that your Church, alive with Christian people, will promeate that. 516 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,720 Speaker 2: And that's our hope for today, and I hope for 517 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 2: tomorrow bring us home to you this Easter, Lord, the 518 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:25,600 Speaker 2: realization of what it can mean for men and women, 519 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:29,959 Speaker 2: young people to come alive from Christ. The life that 520 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:33,719 Speaker 2: you gave to Jesus will come to us. May we 521 00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:37,200 Speaker 2: use that life and that light wherever you find us 522 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:41,480 Speaker 2: today this Easter. Through the name of our resurrected Lord 523 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 2: and Jesus, we pray Amen. 524 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:49,000 Speaker 1: Amen, Master ed Young. We appreciate you and we love it. 525 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:54,600 Speaker 2: Thank you, brother, love you have a great Easter. Michael, 526 00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:58,400 Speaker 2: thank you, and good night.