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Speaker 1: On Never Told You reproduction of iHeart Radio and welcome

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Speaker 1: back to I guess this will be on part two.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if we're gonna call it a part two,

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Speaker 1: but our series which is called Monday Minny, but specifically

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Speaker 1: we're talking about what is happening with Roe v Wade. Yes,

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Speaker 1: it is a hot topic. To be very honest and

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Speaker 1: let you see behind the curtains a little bit. We

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Speaker 1: just finished the recent episode about adoption and versus abortion,

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Speaker 1: so I was like, you know, what, can we come

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Speaker 1: back so that I could take a minute to calm

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Speaker 1: down because I happened to listen to that one. You

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Speaker 1: know that I was ramped up and I still kind

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Speaker 1: of am. We wanted to take a minute and do

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Speaker 1: sort of a part two about what we can do

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Speaker 1: really what feels like hostile time, uh, in the hustle

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Speaker 1: time and history. As someone who feels that people's bodies

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Speaker 1: commodities feels overwhelming, sometimes we have to take a step back,

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Speaker 1: and we wanted to do that, right, And this one

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Speaker 1: is kind of more of a free form, shall we say,

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Speaker 1: Normally we have an outline, but this one we're just

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Speaker 1: gonna have a conversation. So I'm not entirely sure what

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Speaker 1: and say their content warning for just discussion around abortion.

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Speaker 1: I'd say mental health and any of the things you

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Speaker 1: don't think we're gonna go to in depth to anything

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Speaker 1: say that is because and I hate to even bring

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Speaker 1: it up, but in uh, when Trump was elected, it

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Speaker 1: felt similar in that it was like you constantly have

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Speaker 1: And this feels kind of like another thing like that,

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Speaker 1: and it was very disheartening when we we kind of

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Speaker 1: we remember what the Sevre for? Like all right, well,

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Speaker 1: but since I guess we're kind of, you know, being

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Speaker 1: a I don't know if positive spin, but what we're

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Speaker 1: doing to take care of ourselves. I will say that, Um,

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Speaker 1: I had because I've been on therapy, because I've been

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Speaker 1: not gonna lie and say it's been easy right anyways, right,

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Speaker 1: but I've I've had kind of things in place for

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Speaker 1: that was nice, um. And I've also had conversations with

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Speaker 1: like things that we can do. One thing I'm to

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Speaker 1: Giving that therapy has been amazing. Being able to do

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