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Speaker 1: We're back with another School Stories presented by three of Them,

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Speaker 1: the official science partner of the Minnesota Vikings. Tonight, we're

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Speaker 1: catching up with Vikings running back Robert Smith.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to Skulls Stories presented by three M. Tonight's

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Speaker 2: guest is a fan favorite, one of my favorites, a

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Speaker 2: member of the incredible nineteen ninety eight Vikings team. He's

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Speaker 2: also the legendary Buckeye out of Euclid, Ohio, and one

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Speaker 2: of my favorite people in the world. Please enjoy tonight's

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Speaker 2: conversation with good old number twenty six, Robert Smith. We

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Speaker 2: want to welcome to the program, the School Stories. Everybody.

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Speaker 2: Everybody knows Robert Smith. I mean he's just you know,

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Speaker 2: near and dear to all of our hearts and minds

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Speaker 2: and souls. And Robert, it's great to have you. You know,

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Speaker 2: you were a good football player, then you retired and

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Speaker 2: a bunch of stuff happened, and so how are you.

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Speaker 3: Of intro man. Yeah, always always a pleasure, you know.

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Speaker 3: It's funny. It's it's been almost thirty years since I

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Speaker 3: met you over there when you were I think you

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Speaker 3: g Raq was your was your roommate?

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Speaker 2: Yes, you are and Gino Toretta until he got cut

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Speaker 2: in my and our rent doubled.

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Speaker 3: Well shouldn't it have gone up a third?

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Speaker 2: Well that's see, that's this math. That's not that's not

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Speaker 2: g rac man, right, g Rack was charging him extra Yeah, yourn,

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Speaker 2: yes it was. So how are you, Robert? You've done

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Speaker 2: a million different things. For God's sake, we only have

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Speaker 2: a few minutes. We don't have enough time. But you

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Speaker 2: are calling the game this Sunday, You're doing TV, you

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Speaker 2: doing college for a while, now you're doing the NFL.

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Speaker 2: Just how do you like this this section of your

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Speaker 2: football career if you will?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I love it, man, And I you know, I

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Speaker 3: called one college game earlier this season, and I'll call

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Speaker 3: you know, double duty this year. But yeah, man, it's

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Speaker 3: a blast. You know, you've been doing it for a while,

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Speaker 3: and you know, just I think being around the locker

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Speaker 3: you know, it's a it's it's it's a lot of fun.

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Speaker 2: Have you done anything where Chris Myers has looked at

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Speaker 2: you and said, yeah, that deserves a while.

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Speaker 3: You know nothing yet that that deserves a while. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: is that the same? What does he use that? Does

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Speaker 2: Yes he does, Yes he does. He says that you

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Speaker 3: I mean, he says, he says so many things. I

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Speaker 3: just I don't even you know, they all just kind

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Speaker 3: like stand up comedian. Like it's it's funny, you know

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Speaker 1: Hey, Robert Mark Rose and I had so much fun

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Speaker 1: covering your career with the Vikings and a lot of

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Speaker 1: them love. Those games, of course took place where you

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Speaker 1: will be on Sunday at Soldier Field. Practice is the

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Speaker 1: twenty third anniversary of your last game versus the Bears.

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Speaker 1: I can't believe how fast time has gone. Back in

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Speaker 1: the year two thousand. I always take a soldier field

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Speaker 3: Oh, you know, that's interesting. You know, I remember hearing

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Speaker 2: So there, yeah, I know it's crazy.

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Speaker 3: What it would be funny seeing the sport grass longer

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Speaker 2: But it's South Indiana. There's no sun. How do you

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Speaker 2: Who was playing defense at the time for the Bears.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure it's probably available on YouTube now, but Mike

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. Like you know, when they get mad at you,

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Speaker 2: Man, Come on, well you did you know what? Though

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Speaker 2: you did have a good offensive line. Corey Stringer obviously

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Speaker 2: What do you remember most about Corey?

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Speaker 3: I was never around Corey without laughing or smiling.

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Speaker 2: You aren't the only one, yeah, like I just in

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Speaker 3: Played my last year at Ohio State was his first

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Speaker 3: I don't know that he ever called me Robert. It

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Speaker 2: Knew him with Scotty Graham Juice. You know what I

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Speaker 1: He kind of a stand up That's true.

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Speaker 2: The dichotomy, here's the walking dichotomy of the funniest dude.

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Speaker 2: He'd walk in a room and Robert's absolutely right, you

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Speaker 1: I remember him in the back of the bus going

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Speaker 3: Yeah. And you know it's funny, Pete that that the

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Speaker 2: It was very Napoleon Dynamite. Ask if you will.

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Speaker 1: Unexpected, right, Robert, Yeah, because that's my nickname for you.

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Speaker 1: former Vikings running back Robert Smith. You're your NFL career

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Speaker 1: lasted eight years, which now it seems like a lifetime,

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Speaker 1: in a heartbeat. I wait, Robert Smith is walking away

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Speaker 1: from the game after eight years, after having this incredible year,

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Speaker 1: It seems unlikely. But then you look at running backs,

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Speaker 1: the length of their careers normally is like three four years.

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Speaker 1: So in retrospect, you feel like, man, I have no regrets.

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Speaker 1: I walked away at the right time for lots of reasons,

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Speaker 1: personal and otherwise, and also from a standpoint of keeping

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Speaker 3: You know, the first four years unfortunately, I mean I

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Speaker 2: Robert, let me ask you a hypothetical question. That's where

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Speaker 3: Like that, Yeah, well you just have to be real

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Speaker 1: People love to make comparisons no matter what the era is.

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Speaker 1: Hey, Robert's been great catching up with you. Have a

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Speaker 3: Course, all right, Thanks guys, always funny.

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Speaker 1: Catch up with Robert Smith. Great storyteller and a terrific

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Speaker 1: the Windy City on Sunday. The Vikings seemingly they always

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Speaker 2: I think yeah, a little bit. And the crazy parties.

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Speaker 2: You look at the you know, almost the seven hundred

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Speaker 1: I guess well, life goes on for the Vikings now. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 2: To go through bad That's yeah. I'll quote the immortal

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Speaker 2: The good thing is just again watching this matchup and

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Speaker 2: for this one because you look at what they do

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Speaker 2: ready to see twelve personnel but a three you know,

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Speaker 2: want to run the football. They should be able to

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Speaker 2: the road, you're playing on grass, you're outside those that

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Speaker 2: those things I'll speak to having to have a good

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Speaker 2: running game, But the defense also has to come up,

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Speaker 2: step up and say, you know what, we need to

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Speaker 2: take it to the next level.

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Speaker 1: Well, if we've learned anything over the year, Sunday's matchup

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Speaker 1: and Blue division. It's a new kickoff on Fox with

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Speaker 1: Robert Smith, Brandon Gordon, and Jen Hale on the call.

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Speaker 1: You can also, of course, catch the game right here

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Speaker 1: all across the Vikings radio network, so sure to be

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Speaker 1: check your local listings for details. Pete, always a pleasure

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Speaker 1: for having you on the show, and thank you fans

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