Speaker 1: Welcome to episode. And I wanted to do this episode
Speaker 1: while Dancing with the Stars was still fresh in my mind.
Speaker 1: It's let's today Sunday. So I guess less than a
Speaker 1: week after the finale and after that I was the
Speaker 1: champion and Charnat was the champion. And I want to
Speaker 1: do this one to serve not only you guys and
Speaker 1: tell you some stuff that I have I got to
Speaker 1: talk about yet, but also to listen. If anyone else
Speaker 1: is gonna do that show, they should be directed to
Speaker 1: this next podcast right I'm about to do because hopefully
Speaker 1: I'll be able to share some stuff with you that
Speaker 1: will help you out as you're about to do the show.
Speaker 1: Because there are people that help me, but everybody that
Speaker 1: helped me was pretty conventional. Um, and as you know
Speaker 1: if you watch the show, I was definitely unconventional on
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Speaker 1: and the drink water and we begin a right. If
Speaker 1: there's anything that I forget to say, because Mike d
Speaker 1: kind of lived this with me a bit. We we
Speaker 1: lived in the two bedroom apartment in in Los Angeles
Speaker 1: a bit. It was called Glendale, and we had to
Speaker 1: live different from all the rest of the cast because
Speaker 1: I had to work the whole time. I was the
Speaker 1: only one that was working full time. Uh. DeMarcus was
Speaker 1: doing a couple of days a week coaching with the Broncos,
Speaker 1: but other than that, everybody else was kind of at
Speaker 1: it um just the dancing. So Miked and I moved
Speaker 1: three months ago or so to a tiny apartment in Glendale, California,
Speaker 1: And in the morning we would go to Burbank and
Speaker 1: do the radio show and then I wouldn't see Mike
Speaker 1: again until some time later, and I would walk in
Speaker 1: exhaust every three months. So hold on, man to war.
Speaker 1: So let me start at the beginning. They started talking
Speaker 1: to me about Dancing with the Stars actually months ago,
Speaker 1: even before I went on American Idol, and the exact
Speaker 1: producer of that show, one of them, Dena Cats, I
Speaker 1: was like, I think you'd be good on Dancing with
Speaker 1: the Stars and Rob Mills at ABC, and I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: sounds fun. Well, between that time American Idol happened and
Speaker 1: I went on there and some other things started happening
Speaker 1: in the TV world, and I went from nobody caring
Speaker 1: about me at all, which has been pretty much my
Speaker 1: whole career, just dealing people to care like the like
Speaker 1: the people people I'm talking about, like network people. Two,
Speaker 1: I started to get oddly a lot of show offers
Speaker 1: at once, so I had to decide what I wanted
Speaker 1: to do. And I really wanted to do Dancing with
Speaker 1: the Stars just because I thought it would be fun.
Speaker 1: I didn't think it would be as hard as it was.
Speaker 1: I thought it'd be pretty hard because I've never danced.
Speaker 1: I don't think it was gonna be as grueling as
Speaker 1: it was. And um yeah, I chose to do Dancing
Speaker 1: with the Stars. I didn't know if I could with
Speaker 1: the American Idol schedule, because in that same amount of time,
Speaker 1: I had signed a deal with American Idol ABC to
Speaker 1: do full time Idol, and some of the dates were
Speaker 1: on top of each other, which later VC worked him
Speaker 1: out for me. But um yeah, I chose Dancing with
Speaker 1: the Stars. And I didn't officially get to take it
Speaker 1: until like two weeks before I started training. I wasn't
Speaker 1: sure that I was gonna be able to do it,
Speaker 1: and so I had never met Sharna until like the
Speaker 1: day I met Sharna on the show, and so they
Speaker 1: flew to Nashville. I remember doing the radio show and
Speaker 1: I was like, wow, today I'm gonna start training for
Speaker 1: Dancing with the Stars. But I couldn't talk about it
Speaker 1: because the first two weeks up until the announcement on
Speaker 1: Good Morning America, you can't say anything about it, and
Speaker 1: you have to practice in secret, and nobody can know.
Speaker 1: I think only a couple of people here knew, and
Speaker 1: so you kind of have to go, well, I've seen
Speaker 1: a couple of hours, but I'm not gonna tell you
Speaker 1: where I'm going. This is not weird by and disappear,
Speaker 1: And I remember I was We were in a dance
Speaker 1: studio in Nashville for the first couple of weeks because
Speaker 1: I had a move to Los Angeles yet, and I
Speaker 1: hadn't really seen the show enough to know the dancers
Speaker 1: by like, how I know some people, you know, love
Speaker 1: the dancers on the show because they've been there for
Speaker 1: so long. I didn't know who Sharnon was. She knew
Speaker 1: who I was, obviously, and so here was this Australian
Speaker 1: professional dancer in this goofy Southern radio dude. And so
Speaker 1: the thing about Sharna is what I knew immediately because
Speaker 1: I googled everything, was that all of her last partners,
Speaker 1: you may look this up, like her last partners were
Speaker 1: all pretty much professional athletes. So I knew that she
Speaker 1: had been close to winning a bunch but had never won.
Speaker 1: And that was kind of her story. That I knew
Speaker 1: about her was that she was always the one like
Speaker 1: the DiCaprio, like everyone thought she was, if not the best,
Speaker 1: one of the best, but she had never won. And
Speaker 1: she had been given some great partners as far as physically,
Speaker 1: like I believe she had Josh Norman, who was an
Speaker 1: NFL player. Do you have the old list work working backwards,
Speaker 1: So Josh Norman uh NFL players, had Derek fisher In
Speaker 1: an NBA player, Antonio Brown, an NFL player, James Heins
Speaker 1: Cliff race car driver, Nick Carter, Nick Carter dancer, Backstreet board.
Speaker 1: So that my point is everybody that she had before
Speaker 1: me kind of knew physically what they were capable of.
Speaker 1: They were rather they all did a professionally. As a
Speaker 1: matter of fact, they all were paid to physically do things.
Speaker 1: And then she gets me and I think that we
Speaker 1: were both kind of stunned at what we'd gotten herself into. Um.
Speaker 1: And again we didn't really know each other yet, and
Speaker 1: so I was clueless. I mean I ended the show
Speaker 1: still somewhat clueless. But after I did the math six
Speaker 1: hours of training, and we never took a day off
Speaker 1: in three months because we couldn't afford to because everyone
Speaker 1: else was so much better than us. They were so
Speaker 1: far ahead of us that we couldn't afford to take
Speaker 1: a day off because we weren't going to catch them.
Speaker 1: We were just trying to put ourselves in a position
Speaker 1: whenever showtime hit to be ready to do the show. Um.
Speaker 1: And that started. We woke up, did the radio show,
Speaker 1: and we started every Tuesday. It was like boop, back
Speaker 1: at it. We kind of had this grid of the
Speaker 1: way we did things, and so we started practicing. And
Speaker 1: our remember them saying our first style of dance was
Speaker 1: a jive, and I was like, I never heard of it.
Speaker 1: I heard it, like hey, why you talking that jive?
Speaker 1: Or like hey why I don't know, Like in the
Speaker 1: seventies people say the jive. I know what that was,
Speaker 1: like the hand give from Greece, you know, So and
Speaker 1: I remember I lost twelve pounds and two and a
Speaker 1: half weeks because I didn't really eat. I don't really
Speaker 1: have time to eat. I was so tired. I don't
Speaker 1: want to eat because I was working and dancing a jib, which,
Speaker 1: by the way, I learned later is the most physically
Speaker 1: demanding of all the dances because it's so fast. It's
Speaker 1: a lot of jumping around. And I lost a bunch
Speaker 1: of weight quickly, and so much so that later on Sharna,
Speaker 1: not the whole time, but like weeks four or five, six,
Speaker 1: she would order food and have it sent to the
Speaker 1: room and we'd have to stop practice that she would
Speaker 1: make me eat because I wasn't. I wouldn't stopped like
Speaker 1: I was there of work and that was it um
Speaker 1: and it really wasn't hungry while I was working. So
Speaker 1: we go and then we moved out to l A.
Speaker 1: And I remember leaving the house going, well, I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna be back very often if I last. And we
Speaker 1: moved out to this tiny apartment. It felt like college again,
Speaker 1: and I mean they paid for the apartment. We got there.
Speaker 1: It was fully furnished, cable there was even like a
Speaker 1: cordless phone, which I thought was weird. Yeah, it's a
Speaker 1: cordless landline and so, and we lived there and I
Speaker 1: would go to work and I would uber every day.
Speaker 1: My uber bill was so high they gave us a
Speaker 1: rental car. They gave me a renal car, but might
Speaker 1: be pretty much kept a rental car. And then I
Speaker 1: just ubered to Burbank to where the radio station was,
Speaker 1: and I was in sweats for three months. I don't
Speaker 1: know that I wore jeans more than three times, like
Speaker 1: normal human clothes more than three times, except for dressing
Speaker 1: up for that show on an occasional work event. And
Speaker 1: so it'd stay in sweats and cut off shirts and hoodies.
Speaker 1: And you couldn't wear logos or you have to do
Speaker 1: everything backward. So all my clothes were it was all
Speaker 1: is backward inside out. And so I'll go to this
Speaker 1: practice place, and you know, I was kind of looking
Speaker 1: at my calendar. We rarely practiced less than six hours,
Speaker 1: almost never, and there were days we practiced up to
Speaker 1: thirteen hours, depending on where we were in the in
Speaker 1: the week, and we had to travel a lot. Then
Speaker 1: there were some people that traveled as well, like John
Speaker 1: Schneider traveled a bit because he didn't want to stay
Speaker 1: in l a um. But and we can go to
Speaker 1: the cast too, and I can tell you stories about
Speaker 1: all of them. And I mean, listen, what do I
Speaker 1: care now? Shows over, I can say whatever I want, um,
Speaker 1: you know, and I wish there was no I don't
Speaker 1: wish it. I'm kind of glad there's not. But it
Speaker 1: was such a good experience to me because of the people,
Speaker 1: meaning the crew, the cast, the producers. They were all
Speaker 1: so awesome and there's nothing really behind the scenes to
Speaker 1: tell you about anything that really irritated me about that.
Speaker 1: They were from the executive producers down to the stage
Speaker 1: manager to what they called the troop, the backup Dan
Speaker 1: two later on the other partners of the other stars.
Speaker 1: Once they would get eliminated, they would help me, and
Speaker 1: you know, I would use them as tools. Um. So there,
Speaker 1: it's such a positive experience. There's the hardest thing I've
Speaker 1: ever done, but it's such a positive experience. And there
Speaker 1: are things I'll talk about, um that are a bit juicier,
Speaker 1: I guess, but it was such a positive experience that
Speaker 1: I you know, there have been people that have finished
Speaker 1: that show and have come off like angry and not me.
Speaker 1: I had the greatest time when I wasn't about to
Speaker 1: vomit because I was so tired at the greatest time. Um.
Speaker 1: So yeah, Like we would start on Tuesday and by Thursday,
Speaker 1: we'd have to have it shot sometimes on Friday, and
Speaker 1: you know, the rehearsals and dress rehearsals, and and there
Speaker 1: were clothing, their fittings and their wardrobe department's amazing. And
Speaker 1: they make everything by hand. They don't go to coals
Speaker 1: and buy the stuff. Everything is made. It start of
Speaker 1: the fabric. Everything you saw me in and it started
Speaker 1: with the fabric and they made it all and we
Speaker 1: go and put it all on and I'd have mine on,
Speaker 1: Charne would have hers and she would go, now, let's
Speaker 1: change this, and they would freaking change it and they
Speaker 1: would restone things. I've never worked something Ryan Stones in
Speaker 1: my life, never been shirtless in public. More in my
Speaker 1: life then when I was on that show. So, um,
Speaker 1: it's a really great experience. I did went unconventionally. Now
Speaker 1: here's where it starts to get a little a little
Speaker 1: different from my approach to the show, and that I
Speaker 1: knew I was never gonna be able to catch up
Speaker 1: with the great dancers on that show. I knew from
Speaker 1: the beginning they had trained for ten plus years, said
Speaker 1: the ones. I think that all three of the people
Speaker 1: I was in the finals with had years and years
Speaker 1: and years and years of training, maybe ten plus, because
Speaker 1: they said that Alexis had. This is just people talking
Speaker 1: to me that Alexis had ten years of ballet mylos
Speaker 1: been dancing since he was tiny. Of Anna, she was
Speaker 1: like the second favorite to win the show when it started. Uh,
Speaker 1: I'm not sure what her dance experience was, but she
Speaker 1: obviously had had some by talking to them. So I
Speaker 1: was the one that didn't have any dance experience. And
Speaker 1: so what I had realized early on when I would
Speaker 1: watch to Nash or Wan Pablo dances that I was
Speaker 1: never going to be that good. And I felt like
Speaker 1: if I could get through week two or three, that
Speaker 1: I could figure out a sideway to win that show,
Speaker 1: meaning that show usually is one by somebody who can
Speaker 1: dance really well. I don't know they've had anyone win
Speaker 1: that show that really couldn't dance in a long time,
Speaker 1: like with no dance experience. The only one I can
Speaker 1: think of, and I'm not sure is Bendy Irwin. Other
Speaker 1: than that, just by looking at all the data on
Speaker 1: Wikipedia and like you're either an athlete or a dancer
Speaker 1: in some capacity, and I wasn't that, and I was
Speaker 1: determined to figure out how to win. Now. Here's what
Speaker 1: I figured out was that if I could get eights
Speaker 1: and even sevens, that put me in a place to
Speaker 1: win every week. Meaning the show was split in half
Speaker 1: half judges half fan vote, and I knew if I
Speaker 1: could get an eight and the best if they got
Speaker 1: a ten, that only put me at a depth sit
Speaker 1: on the first half. But I felt that I could
Speaker 1: get more than a lead over them in the fan vote.
Speaker 1: Of all of them want Pablo to Nash. I felt
Speaker 1: like people would identify more with me than they would
Speaker 1: with them, so they could go and dance their brains
Speaker 1: out because they were such good dancers. But if they
Speaker 1: were getting tents and I was getting seventh orrades, that
Speaker 1: was only a thirty percent at most difference, I felt
Speaker 1: like it could beat them by in the human vote.
Speaker 1: The human vote what people don't realize, and even when
Speaker 1: people on their show, is actually worth more than the
Speaker 1: judges vote. Even though it's fifty, there's a ceiling on
Speaker 1: the judges vote, there is no ceiling on the fan vote.
Speaker 1: There's no top line you can get on the fan vote.
Speaker 1: You can win the fan vote, you can win it
Speaker 1: by to the second place person. There are no rules.
Speaker 1: You may not probably won't, but there are no rules
Speaker 1: on the ceiling of the fan vote. So that's how
Speaker 1: I approached it. I knew that people would not vote
Speaker 1: for me if I was mailing it and not trying hard.
Speaker 1: So I was working as hard as I could to
Speaker 1: get better, and I did get better. But I also
Speaker 1: knew I was playing a different game than everybody else.
Speaker 1: As they were all playing checkers, I was playing chess.
Speaker 1: We were all trying to dance as good as we could,
Speaker 1: but I knew that there are years and years of
Speaker 1: experience I couldn't catch up with, But my years and
Speaker 1: years of experience of being a performer and playing two
Speaker 1: people and four people and surviving based on that they
Speaker 1: couldn't catch up with. And so while they were all
Speaker 1: hyper focused on dance, I was working as hard as
Speaker 1: I could on dance. But you're crazy if you don't
Speaker 1: think I was going what can I do? The people
Speaker 1: will really be entertained by what can I do to
Speaker 1: people will love? And every week it was work, work, work, work,
Speaker 1: and trying to figure out what would be super entertaining
Speaker 1: now never in the dance, and there are things in
Speaker 1: the dance. I couldn't control my mouth being open the
Speaker 1: whole time, could control it, tried so hard to keep
Speaker 1: my mouth shut. I think that's just what I did
Speaker 1: when I was happy and I was moving around so
Speaker 1: um week one, if I'm to go back and and
Speaker 1: look at some of the things I didn't plan to
Speaker 1: fall down obviously, I had never done that day. I
Speaker 1: wasn't all red. We were doing a jive to Travis
Speaker 1: Trip t r o U b l E. And they
Speaker 1: gave me a super country song because I love country
Speaker 1: music obviously, and I was like, okay, cool, and I
Speaker 1: love that song. It's nineties countries. It's right in my wheelhouse.
Speaker 1: And so we uh we did that. I never nailed
Speaker 1: the dance in practice, never, not one time. And we
Speaker 1: got on the show, and the best I ever did
Speaker 1: it was that first show. I remember the music going
Speaker 1: Brian and I was like, oh my god, here we go.
Speaker 1: And I remember finishing it and going I can't believe
Speaker 1: I just did an episode Dancing with the Stars and
Speaker 1: I didn't my best ever, and I started celebrating, probably
Speaker 1: two beats too early, and Charnett was still bent over backward,
Speaker 1: and so she was bent over back where I started
Speaker 1: pumping my fist. It's probably a little too early. So
Speaker 1: finally she's able to get back up, and I run
Speaker 1: into the across the floor. And by the way, there
Speaker 1: were no rules for me. In my head, if you
Speaker 1: don't know the rules, there are no rules. I didn't
Speaker 1: know the rules of that show as far as where
Speaker 1: you could go and couldn't go, so no one told
Speaker 1: me what I couldn't do. So I was like, this whole,
Speaker 1: this whole like ballroom, it's kind of my canvas. I
Speaker 1: can do whatever I want. And I felt like that,
Speaker 1: by the way the whole show because that no one
Speaker 1: ever came to me said stopped. So I took off
Speaker 1: running through the middle of the floor and I was
Speaker 1: like oh, and then I um was jumping around and
Speaker 1: I fell and hurt my shoulder. My shoulder still hurts today.
Speaker 1: I had to stop acting like it was hurt because
Speaker 1: I did not want it to be a storyline on
Speaker 1: the show. Still hurts today. And so I hurt my shoulder.
Speaker 1: But we went over and we got our scores and
Speaker 1: I think we got all sevens from the first show.
Speaker 1: Do you know you don't have to look it up,
Speaker 1: but I think it was like all sevens. But they
Speaker 1: were very complimentary, and the bit that Eddie and I
Speaker 1: do on our morning shows from that, whenever they would
Speaker 1: just say Bobby Jay into the world, the world's a
Speaker 1: better place. You just killed all diseases. What do your
Speaker 1: dance two, I'll be like, oh, becauldn't think they're getting
Speaker 1: big scores, and they wouldn't. Um, So I go out
Speaker 1: and everyone was like, wow, I was crazy. No one's
Speaker 1: ever reacted like that after a dance. No one ever
Speaker 1: came to me and said, don't do that. I think
Speaker 1: people watch the show and they go, oh, we can
Speaker 1: only act a certain way because of ways we've ever
Speaker 1: seen on the show. I was the opposite. I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be exactly how I want to be until
Speaker 1: they tell me not to be. So no one said
Speaker 1: anything about it. So we're go into week two and
Speaker 1: I believe week two was the and I'm not going
Speaker 1: to go through every week, but um, We're going to
Speaker 1: week two and I believe week two is the foxtrot
Speaker 1: where I end up flossing at the end of the dance.
Speaker 1: That's the other Week two, a week three. But we're
Speaker 1: going to the fox Trot and they have me at
Speaker 1: the end of the show. And this is when people,
Speaker 1: the other dancers start to whisper their conspiracy theories of oh,
Speaker 1: if you're at the end of the show, that means
Speaker 1: they're putting you at the end, because they went everybody
Speaker 1: to hang around. I didn't know whether to believe them
Speaker 1: or not. I was knew it was only a couple
Speaker 1: of exam but I was like, oh, I started to
Speaker 1: get into my head a little bit. And our dance
Speaker 1: was super slow, and it was a foxtrot. It was
Speaker 1: New York Week and it was and if I'm actually
Speaker 1: inaccurate in these weeks, Mike, you can tell me. So
Speaker 1: it's New York Week, and that that was my We
Speaker 1: had New York, New York from Frank Frank Sinatra and
Speaker 1: them out and we're doing the foxtrot and it's a
Speaker 1: slow dance and we're last, and I'm thinking of myself
Speaker 1: as much as I've learned it and as much as
Speaker 1: Sharna has been working to teach me these little things
Speaker 1: that I felt like a slow dance was kind of
Speaker 1: boring for the last dance, which by the way, sacriligious
Speaker 1: to say to a dancer, and I said that one
Speaker 1: star she was. I don't think she liked that I said,
Speaker 1: because it was slow, it was boring, and I was
Speaker 1: like at the end, I wanted a big number. And
Speaker 1: so about halfway through the dance, I go, well, I
Speaker 1: haven't really nailed this dance. I've done pretty good, and
Speaker 1: I got to give people something to remember, because you
Speaker 1: remember they were still thirteen people, aren't they twelve people left?
Speaker 1: And so as Sharna sat down at the very end
Speaker 1: of the dance, I lost and I was running backward
Speaker 1: when I did it, and it was a tough I
Speaker 1: gotta tell you. One of my most athletic moves of
Speaker 1: the whole dance season was flossing, running backward and coming
Speaker 1: to a stop right there. And so I flost and
Speaker 1: we got off. We got our scores and they were like,
Speaker 1: what just happened? And Charlotte was so mad at me,
Speaker 1: and we had only known each other three or four
Speaker 1: weeks at this point, and me, I'm thinking, I'm just
Speaker 1: trying to stay memorable. I did the whole dance as
Speaker 1: best I could. This was a game. It was a
Speaker 1: TV show, and it was a game that me and
Speaker 1: my listeners were trying to win together. And so we
Speaker 1: got our scores and then she was off and she
Speaker 1: didn't talk. She wouldn't talk to me. She was so
Speaker 1: pissed and we everybody left and I was like, well, great,
Speaker 1: we're never gonna talk again because she was toos mad
Speaker 1: and not you know, I mean, just just justified. Sure.
Speaker 1: So she came over and I was like, hey listen.
Speaker 1: We both were like hey listen. We both had something
Speaker 1: to say, and she was like, this is my craft
Speaker 1: and I was like completely respect that, and I was like,
Speaker 1: do you want to know my craft? That I said,
Speaker 1: people are gonna remember us, and she was like, okay,
Speaker 1: there's a good moment for us because we kind of
Speaker 1: went it kind of click for both of us that
Speaker 1: we were both in it together, we're both working as
Speaker 1: hard as we could, and that we kind of had
Speaker 1: to trust each other. I had to trust her at
Speaker 1: times when I was like, oh, this does not feel
Speaker 1: comfortable with the dance part. She had to trust me
Speaker 1: when I was like, just go along with it. And
Speaker 1: I also promised her then there will be no more
Speaker 1: super surprises like that. I was like, I promise you
Speaker 1: anything I do that's like related, I'll let you know.
Speaker 1: I never did anything during a dance again, the whole
Speaker 1: the whole season. But so again, I remember telling my like,
Speaker 1: my my people, my team, if I can get through
Speaker 1: the first two or three weeks, I can win this show.
Speaker 1: And they were like, okay, okay, can't dance. I was like,
Speaker 1: I just feel like I'm gonna put in enough work
Speaker 1: to get good enough to compete in the dancing, but
Speaker 1: to win, because in my mind it was already split
Speaker 1: it in the two halves. All I need to do
Speaker 1: is compete in the judges half and dominate the fan
Speaker 1: vote half. Because I had the people. They did not
Speaker 1: see us coming, as far as they didn't see the
Speaker 1: support that we bring that I bring with my people.
Speaker 1: They had no idea and we show up and you know,
Speaker 1: on the finals or four of us. What's funny is
Speaker 1: everybody had their own fan base. I had the least
Speaker 1: amount of Instagram followers in the final four. Everybody else
Speaker 1: had over a million Instagram followers, and people be like, oh,
Speaker 1: you brought your fans, Yeah, so did everybody else. Alexis
Speaker 1: has like twelve million Instagram followers. You know, my law
Speaker 1: has a huge Disney following of Honest from Harry Potter.
Speaker 1: They all had a huge, way bigger social media numbers
Speaker 1: than I did. My my What I'm like lucky to
Speaker 1: have is people that I get to talk to and
Speaker 1: we feel like we're friends and we know each other,
Speaker 1: and it's how to use those people. Because my people
Speaker 1: came to bat for me so hard. I mean, I
Speaker 1: was surprised I was never in Jeopardy the whole year.
Speaker 1: There are only two people that weren't in Jeopardy the
Speaker 1: whole time, which were me and Milo, and until he
Speaker 1: was finished second at the end, he was we were both.
Speaker 1: Also I started to realize, Okay, I must be getting
Speaker 1: a pretty good vote because heat mile is really good
Speaker 1: and getting nines and tens. I also think it hurts
Speaker 1: you early if you're so good, because you have nowhere
Speaker 1: to go. People just expected out of you. And if
Speaker 1: you get nine and tens early, and then you get
Speaker 1: nine and tens again, they're like, yeah, they expected it. Good,
Speaker 1: good for you, we knew you were good. I also
Speaker 1: think that if you get really high scores and you're good,
Speaker 1: people think, oh, they're good, they don't need the votes.
Speaker 1: I'll vote with somebody who needs it. So there's something
Speaker 1: to say for you know, somebody that's rolling in with
Speaker 1: sevens and eights, because people will go, oh, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: give them some votes because they need it, which really, again,
Speaker 1: the fan vote is the biggest part of the show.
Speaker 1: You have to be in striking distance with the judges vote,
Speaker 1: but if you can clean up on the fan vote
Speaker 1: and beating, Like for me, I was such a normal
Speaker 1: human on that show because I'm just not cool. There's
Speaker 1: no part of me that's slick or polished. And about
Speaker 1: week four is when I go when I go, Okay,
Speaker 1: I really can win this thing if I just play
Speaker 1: this work as hard as I can on the dance,
Speaker 1: and I would get so pissed when I wouldn't get
Speaker 1: scores that I thought we're good, Like we did the
Speaker 1: Halloween dance and I think we got like seven eight
Speaker 1: seven or something. I'm not sure of the score. Maybe
Speaker 1: I don't know. Whatever was I was visibly upset on screen.
Speaker 1: I watched it back. I was visibly upset. What I
Speaker 1: get eight seven seven? Okay? I was upset because I
Speaker 1: was like, that's the best I could have danced, and
Speaker 1: I still only got eight seven seven. The only thing
Speaker 1: that we see on that show, the only data that
Speaker 1: we have to justify our week, was so judge those
Speaker 1: judges scores, because they never share us the votes. They
Speaker 1: never tipped me off one bit that I was gonna
Speaker 1: win the show, that I was crushing votes. They never
Speaker 1: said anything to me about that. And so you go
Speaker 1: and the only thing that you can rely on is
Speaker 1: those judges scores as being part of the score. Now,
Speaker 1: I'm still playing the hidden secret vote game. I was
Speaker 1: just counting on and hoping that people would vote for me,
Speaker 1: and I was never in Jeopardy. So I started to go, Okay,
Speaker 1: well what can I do this week. I'm gonna dance
Speaker 1: all week. I'm gonna train hard, and then I would
Speaker 1: do a little something. I would say a little something.
Speaker 1: I would I would be funny. I talked to the
Speaker 1: judges in a weird way. I'd go up to the
Speaker 1: judges table, things that were just different that people that
Speaker 1: listen to the show or listen to podcast already knew
Speaker 1: that I was gonna do. But it was people that
Speaker 1: watch the show and only watch the show. They'd be
Speaker 1: like whoa, you're this guy? Because I think I was
Speaker 1: just brought on to be the kind of funny guy
Speaker 1: that would last a few weeks and then slowly be
Speaker 1: shipped off to see I think because well I never danced.
Speaker 1: It wasn't like people think of country music and go
Speaker 1: let's get some because we're our own little world and
Speaker 1: everybody kind of counts us out or doesn't. They don't
Speaker 1: think about us at all. And so Week four, so
Speaker 1: was one part where we're doing a magic trick. I
Speaker 1: think it's a Week two. It was Las Vegas night.
Speaker 1: Our magic trick fell apart behind us as we were
Speaker 1: doing it. We couldn't get around it. Was the thing
Speaker 1: where we cut a girl in half and we have
Speaker 1: to dance around it. We couldn't get the thing apart.
Speaker 1: Somebody handed somebody a wrong blade. We couldn't split the
Speaker 1: uh what do you call it? Thinking she was in
Speaker 1: she gets in and you cut her in half whatever
Speaker 1: that things in that she's in. It was like a casket.
Speaker 1: We couldn't cut it in half. So we had to
Speaker 1: dance around it, and we were off like by three
Speaker 1: or four beats. We danced the whole song off by
Speaker 1: a few beats because we would just like just keep going,
Speaker 1: just keep going, act like It's like sometimes if you
Speaker 1: just act like supposed to be there, people believe you're
Speaker 1: supposed to be there. It happens a lot of times
Speaker 1: at concerts. Is to be like yeah, yeah, yeah, and um,
Speaker 1: we're just charms, like just go. And she would talk
Speaker 1: to me a lot of times through her teeth, so
Speaker 1: she would smile real big right now she had talk
Speaker 1: with her like an eventuloquist, and at times it was wonderful.
Speaker 1: During a dance at a time she would you know,
Speaker 1: like scold me. So we we do that dance and
Speaker 1: we get through, and that's about when I go, Okay,
Speaker 1: I think we can do this. Um. Still, no one
Speaker 1: saw us coming, but they kept putting me at the
Speaker 1: end of these shows. Every week I was either last
Speaker 1: or next to last, and then I will be first.
Speaker 1: And then I realized, you know, they start the show
Speaker 1: off with a bang or they end the show with
Speaker 1: the bang. Um, And so I think, if I were
Speaker 1: talking to people who were just starting the show, now
Speaker 1: you have to dance, and you have to get better,
Speaker 1: because God knows, I tried so hard to get better,
Speaker 1: and I did get better. You know, I trained, I did,
Speaker 1: I looked at all my schedule over six hundred hours
Speaker 1: in three months, and so but you have to really
Speaker 1: do something extra because you can. There's a ceiling with
Speaker 1: the judge's votes, and that's in the people. They get
Speaker 1: mad at the showy like, oh, I'm never watching it again.
Speaker 1: You knew the rules before the show started. You just
Speaker 1: don't like how the rules played out. And I was
Speaker 1: very different on this show. I've been very different with
Speaker 1: everything I've ever done anytime anything happens to me. But
Speaker 1: people are upset because I go into it a bit different.
Speaker 1: But you knew the rules of the show. I get
Speaker 1: so many like Instagram messages like worse Dancing with the
Speaker 1: Stars ever change the rules now? You love the rules
Speaker 1: before the show started. You can't be mad now because
Speaker 1: the rules for once didn't go the way you liked
Speaker 1: it to go. So I would tell someone if you're
Speaker 1: listening to this now and you're gonna go do the show,
Speaker 1: or if you're just a fan of the show, that
Speaker 1: the people matter way more than the structure. That's just
Speaker 1: in general period, not just Dancing with the Stars, but
Speaker 1: in life, like people are so much more important than
Speaker 1: some set of rules to die and so judges people.
Speaker 1: That's where I would put it if I were making
Speaker 1: my own scale of what's important and what's not. If
Speaker 1: you don't continue to get better dancing, they're gonna vote
Speaker 1: you off. You gotta keep putting the work. But you
Speaker 1: cannot underestimate the power of the people watching that show
Speaker 1: and voting on that show. And you all were gonna
Speaker 1: put in some work to vote for them. And I
Speaker 1: think that was the demise of the really good dancers
Speaker 1: on the show, like the Tnaches and even the Wampablos.
Speaker 1: They were so good people didn't feel like they need
Speaker 1: to vote for them, and then they were just strictly dance.
Speaker 1: And there's always great dancers on the show. Always, every year,
Speaker 1: there's fantastic dancers. People say great dancers all the time.
Speaker 1: Most of the time, a great dancer wins the show.
Speaker 1: But people were shocked when they went home. I went out.
Speaker 1: I was shocked because they were so good. I thought
Speaker 1: they both went home too early. But I wasn't shocked
Speaker 1: they didn't win. I wouldn't have been shocked to that
Speaker 1: one as well. But just knowing how that show works now,
Speaker 1: I'm not shocked by it. You have to put in
Speaker 1: the effort too, to really sell yourself. It's like running
Speaker 1: for a political office. Like we don't just take the
Speaker 1: person with the best resume and go, you are now
Speaker 1: the leader of the free world? Are you are now
Speaker 1: our senator? You take the person with the resume that
Speaker 1: you feel comfortable with, versus do you like them? You
Speaker 1: know your plus do you like them? And whoever has
Speaker 1: the best resume plus who you like the most, that's
Speaker 1: who gets voted into office by the people. So, if anything,
Speaker 1: the show is very much like that. Um, we are
Speaker 1: what am I skipping over here? Because I don't have
Speaker 1: any notes. I don't want to come into with any notes.
Speaker 1: I go and where I want to go next? How
Speaker 1: about they stick us with these partners. This is the
Speaker 1: first time that I've ever said this. We have never
Speaker 1: you don't meet the partner beforehand, right, And I've never
Speaker 1: met Sharna beforehand. We'd never talked, We've never texted or
Speaker 1: been on social media. And so, um, I I am
Speaker 1: in this dance studio on Nashville and she comes in
Speaker 1: and by the way, they have cameras on you the
Speaker 1: entire time. Something I didn't realize was that every practice
Speaker 1: every practice you have to be miked up with the
Speaker 1: camera on you at all times. So there's six of
Speaker 1: hours of footage of me just getting mad at myself
Speaker 1: in a in a practice room, being like and with
Speaker 1: the producers would they wouldn't get mad at me because
Speaker 1: I was Actually I'm pretty good to work with because
Speaker 1: I know what it's like to work with someone. But
Speaker 1: I just in the practice room where they we're trying
Speaker 1: to get all this footage. I didn't say much because
Speaker 1: I was so focused on trying to get these steps
Speaker 1: right and trying to get this movement right that I
Speaker 1: didn't ask a lot of questions. I just kind of
Speaker 1: watched and studied and studied, and I would go home
Speaker 1: and write notes. I would write steps down on paper.
Speaker 1: I would do all these things that really dancers didn't
Speaker 1: have to do because I could never just see it
Speaker 1: and feel it. For me, it was angles and turns
Speaker 1: and putting my foot down in the right spot, and
Speaker 1: every dance was different. I would compare it to we
Speaker 1: know how to speak, but we don't know how to
Speaker 1: speak a different language, Like you can use your mouth
Speaker 1: to make make sounds, but imagine every week you were
Speaker 1: given a Rosetta Stone and you had to learn French. Okay,
Speaker 1: you learn French as best you could take a test
Speaker 1: on it. All right, new day, now start Italian. And
Speaker 1: that is what it was like learning those dances, because
Speaker 1: you knew how to speak and know how to walk.
Speaker 1: I knew how to talk and how to have rhythm
Speaker 1: a bit, but all the dances were so different. Sometimes
Speaker 1: you put your heel down first, and the dances sometimes
Speaker 1: you count one to three, four or five, six, seven, eight.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you count one to three, one to three. All
Speaker 1: the counts were Everything was different, and some are slow
Speaker 1: somewhere fast. Um. So every week it was something different,
Speaker 1: and every the first day after the show it was
Speaker 1: the hardest because you were learning something brand new and
Speaker 1: you were completely clueless. And it was the most frustrating
Speaker 1: day too. Because I was completely good. I would go
Speaker 1: into it. I be like, okay, today's the Vietnamese Viame,
Speaker 1: Viennes Viennese waltz would be like sounds easy enough. Um.
Speaker 1: It was completely different than the jive or the fox
Speaker 1: trot or the and sometimes you could take you know,
Speaker 1: little parts of other dances, but I would have to
Speaker 1: name the one funny things because for me, the Chase
Speaker 1: didn't mean anything. I needed to call it the gummy Bear.
Speaker 1: You know, I'd have to like really dumb things down
Speaker 1: for myself, and so um Sharna whenever she came to Nashville.
Speaker 1: Because I had one goal in mine that was to
Speaker 1: win the whole show, didn't know how I was gonna
Speaker 1: do it. I never really felt like it was bigger
Speaker 1: than me. But I think one of the things that
Speaker 1: has been a guiding part of my success is that
Speaker 1: I'm so oblivious to what's really happening that I don't
Speaker 1: know the rules that that it doesn't putting limitations on
Speaker 1: me because I'm just like, yeah, let's go. I'm not
Speaker 1: scared of it. I don't really know what it was,
Speaker 1: so I wasn't scared of it. The same thing with
Speaker 1: radio something writing books. I know what I was doing,
Speaker 1: I don't know how hard it really was. And because
Speaker 1: I don't know the rules, I create my own set
Speaker 1: of rules, and so I went into it. I was like,
Speaker 1: I never thought I couldn't win it. I just thought
Speaker 1: if I could get to the first few weeks, I
Speaker 1: could figure it out. So I get this partner and
Speaker 1: Charlatta comes to town, and I don't even know that
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say this on the radio show for a bit.
Speaker 1: But Sharnatt comes to town and you know, she has
Speaker 1: this like this crazy red hit red hair and there's
Speaker 1: the super big presents about her and she's Australian, and
Speaker 1: I was like, hey, listen, I want to win this,
Speaker 1: Like I'm not just here to promote. I read nothing
Speaker 1: to promote. A lot of people go on because you
Speaker 1: have something to promote or you know they're doing it
Speaker 1: for Like I just did dancing. I don't have to
Speaker 1: dance with the Stars. I could I missed the first
Speaker 1: part of American I don't have to do Dancing with
Speaker 1: the Stars, So I could have been an American Idol
Speaker 1: already as of right now, because I missed all of
Speaker 1: the audition, the uh where they go to the dimmer cities,
Speaker 1: and so I just wanted to do it like for fun,
Speaker 1: but I don't want to get in anything halfway. And
Speaker 1: I said, I really want to win this, and I
Speaker 1: knew she wanted to win this, and so she came
Speaker 1: over to the house and we were just kind of
Speaker 1: getting to know each other because according to her, you
Speaker 1: spend a lot of time, which I later found out
Speaker 1: you spent all the time with the partner, like your
Speaker 1: whole life is basically you and them. And we were
Speaker 1: sitting on the couch and I was like, the people
Speaker 1: usually like fall in love or hate each other, or
Speaker 1: they end up having sex with each other, Like I
Speaker 1: just really wanted to know what happened on this show,
Speaker 1: like behind the scenes, and she was like, it's just
Speaker 1: like anything else, a little bit of all of it.
Speaker 1: Sometimes composte each other, sometimes they end up looking up.
Speaker 1: And I was like, well, uh, they can't happen with us,
Speaker 1: and she was like, if you we want to win,
Speaker 1: it cannot happen with us. And we knew too. We
Speaker 1: felt like they had put us together because we were
Speaker 1: two single people. And so I remember sitting at my
Speaker 1: house going, Okay, there's I'm not I'm not gonna flirt
Speaker 1: with you. We're not gonna date, I'm not gonna fall
Speaker 1: in love with you. And she was the same way.
Speaker 1: It was like, we're here to win, and if anything
Speaker 1: romantic happens, if it would have happened with us, it
Speaker 1: would have been toxic to what we were trying to do,
Speaker 1: because then there's another layer that you have to poke through.
Speaker 1: And we didn't want that layer. We both were just
Speaker 1: and the thing that I and listen, I'll tell you
Speaker 1: later on. We and I fought a lot because you
Speaker 1: just are not with someone that long or not fight.
Speaker 1: I mean, think about your husband and wife. You're with
Speaker 1: them all time, you're gonna fight sometimes. But we had
Speaker 1: decided from the first time that she was here that
Speaker 1: it just wasn't gonna happen. And I told her I'm
Speaker 1: not fall in love with you. I'm fall in love
Speaker 1: with anybody good luck, how about that? And I think
Speaker 1: she thought I was kind of kidding at first, and
Speaker 1: I was like, no, it's just not going to happen.
Speaker 1: And so and listen, she was down with it. Two
Speaker 1: The first time she met me, what am I? I'm like, freaking,
Speaker 1: how do you duty? You know? Nobody sees me the
Speaker 1: first time and falls in love ever, no one's like, oh,
Speaker 1: I can't wait to see you know, how do you doty?
Speaker 1: Or uh, what was it guy toy story that cowboy? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I can't wait to see Woody naked? Yeah that So
Speaker 1: that so she wasn't trust me when I said she
Speaker 1: wasn't trying to get in my pants either, right, And
Speaker 1: so we had decided early, early, early, it was never
Speaker 1: a thing we were It was not going to be
Speaker 1: a thing whatsoever, because we were both there to win
Speaker 1: and to work and think about, so there's never anything manic.
Speaker 1: And I went out and I UM. At the same time, ironically,
Speaker 1: I had started to go on some dates with someone
Speaker 1: and it wasn't her, and I wanted to talk about
Speaker 1: it on my radio show that I was actually because
Speaker 1: I don't want people feel like I was always just
Speaker 1: sitting at home alone. I started to go out with someone,
Speaker 1: just just a little bit, nothing serious, and it was
Speaker 1: right time when it started, so everyone was just like, oh,
Speaker 1: it's Sharna. But I tried to give people little clues
Speaker 1: that would really know me and know the show to
Speaker 1: know that it wasn't her. For example, I said, I
Speaker 1: don't want to say who it is, but where First
Speaker 1: of all, she wasn't my girlfriend. By the way, we're
Speaker 1: not even dating anymore. UM, I would say, I don't
Speaker 1: want you going over to her social media and bombarding her.
Speaker 1: At the same time, I'm giving out Sharna social media
Speaker 1: all the time. I was like, here, it is that Sharna.
Speaker 1: So people would know if they thought about it. Why
Speaker 1: would I say I don't want to say her name
Speaker 1: or who it is because I wouldn't want of bombarding
Speaker 1: her social media whenever I'm giving out sharinga social media
Speaker 1: the whole time. So and a lot of people picked
Speaker 1: up on that. Um. And also because she wasn't my girlfriend,
Speaker 1: there was no need for her to be in the
Speaker 1: public eye. And most people you date, it doesn't work out.
Speaker 1: And the only reason I was even talking about it
Speaker 1: was because I wanted my listeners to kind of know
Speaker 1: what was happening. And by the way, the time, it
Speaker 1: was terrible for me to date somebody. UM. But it
Speaker 1: was never as never Sharna. And it's the first time
Speaker 1: right now I've ever said that there was never Sharna
Speaker 1: um and it's actually it's nobody now and it was
Speaker 1: never anything even serious. Um, Mike knows who. Everybody knows
Speaker 1: who it was. But yeah, it's not anymore. Did you
Speaker 1: know it wasn't anymore? I think so. Yeah. So the
Speaker 1: thing about Sharna was we kind of had this relationship
Speaker 1: early that we were we were there to work and
Speaker 1: what I respected and still respect the most about her
Speaker 1: and she's hardcore when it comes to work, and so
Speaker 1: am I. You may be more talented than me. You
Speaker 1: were not going to out work me. That's just not
Speaker 1: a thing. You will not outwork me. I'll to my
Speaker 1: toes bleed. So we were just dancing, and at times
Speaker 1: she was so frustrated with me because I just couldn't
Speaker 1: get it. I didn't know I left all right. I
Speaker 1: mean it was like a toddler, and so we we struggled.
Speaker 1: We struggled hard, and I think she would at times
Speaker 1: would get frustrated with herself that she couldn't figure out
Speaker 1: how to teach me because I was such a novice.
Speaker 1: Now people would go like, just have fun. You're out
Speaker 1: of your mind. If you think you just go and
Speaker 1: have fun, You're crazy. Just having funds going out there
Speaker 1: and just shaking your hips and thrust in the air.
Speaker 1: You had your with a professional athlete trying to do
Speaker 1: what a professional athlete does, being judged by other people
Speaker 1: who have been professional at their job in front of
Speaker 1: eight million people. I've never been so nervous then right
Speaker 1: before that show starts, and even more nervous before my
Speaker 1: dance starts, because you're in a room. I think Tom
Speaker 1: Bergeron said it during like the week three, there are
Speaker 1: more people in that ballroom than in my hometown growing up,
Speaker 1: and so it's just people and like three layers just
Speaker 1: looking at you dancing, and their cameras everywhere. But there
Speaker 1: were some really kind people on that show, Like the
Speaker 1: producers would come up to me and be like, you
Speaker 1: gotta just hang in there, hanging there. The stage managers,
Speaker 1: the guys that were they would be like you got it,
Speaker 1: Like they were so encouraging, and you just wouldn't think
Speaker 1: that people would be so caring on a show that
Speaker 1: had been going so long. No, not all of them
Speaker 1: had been been there for all all the time. I
Speaker 1: think some of them been there for most of it.
Speaker 1: Tom bergeron that Best Dude was so nice, was never
Speaker 1: not awesome the finale, we sat and talked for twenty
Speaker 1: minutes about old school television and talk shows and him
Speaker 1: coming to do Hollywood Squares to Los Angeles when he
Speaker 1: was living in Boston. Aaron andrews awesome. I wish there
Speaker 1: were more gossipy stories about people, because I would tell you.
Speaker 1: I'd be like, oh, yeah, they're really note. It was
Speaker 1: such a good the social media a team, the girl
Speaker 1: that did social media awesome, and I don't know, and
Speaker 1: everyone acted like I was the nicest guy. Ever, I'm not.
Speaker 1: I'm just a normal dude. But I think like in
Speaker 1: Los Angeles, everyone has to define themselves publicly differently, meaning
Speaker 1: in Los Angeles, like to show you're a big star,
Speaker 1: you have to be like, I'm big star. Don't talk
Speaker 1: to me where I come from. You talk to everybody.
Speaker 1: And the bigger the star you are, the nicer, you
Speaker 1: better be like a freaking Garth Brooks, nicest dude in
Speaker 1: the whole world. In our world, if you're not nice,
Speaker 1: you better be nice. It felt like in that world,
Speaker 1: if you are nice, you're taught, hey, don't be nice
Speaker 1: because you need to act like a star. And so
Speaker 1: I go into this place and I'm just like, what
Speaker 1: up like hanging out with everybody that everybody's the same
Speaker 1: from the camera guy to Tom Berge. Wrong were everybody
Speaker 1: was just I just wanted to chill and be normal
Speaker 1: and so um, I think, you know, for me, that
Speaker 1: was a cool thing because people were very warm and
Speaker 1: welcoming and they were very helpful to me, and I
Speaker 1: think that allowed me to adjust to it a bit more.
Speaker 1: I never fully adjusted because the time zone was weird
Speaker 1: and I was always in the back of a uber
Speaker 1: and it was tough. I made some good friends. Um,
Speaker 1: but think about Sharna. I'll tell you the time that
Speaker 1: because every times we really got into big fights. But
Speaker 1: again you just aren't with someone that much and and
Speaker 1: not fight. We were practicing for the Waltz. I'm not
Speaker 1: sure which walts was Viennese waltz stuff, Kentucky Waltz. I
Speaker 1: don't know, that's the thing. We're practicing for the Walts.
Speaker 1: And we were exhausted because again I was working on
Speaker 1: radio show. We're flying across the country back and forth.
Speaker 1: I was doing comedy shows. She would fly with me too.
Speaker 1: I had to do a show in Indiana. So she
Speaker 1: met me in Chicago to just dance for six seven
Speaker 1: hours and she flew back out and then I had
Speaker 1: to drive. I mean it was NonStop and so and
Speaker 1: I don't say they complaining, but just so you know
Speaker 1: where our minds where we would get to these practices
Speaker 1: and we were already exhausted. And so she met me
Speaker 1: in Nashville because I had to come home for two
Speaker 1: days for something. Oh, I know what it was. It
Speaker 1: was the musicians musicians on calling thing. Yeah, so um,
Speaker 1: having a big fundraiser with musicians on call and we're
Speaker 1: practicing here. We're both so tired, and she got mad
Speaker 1: at me for rolling my eyes at her. Again, you
Speaker 1: know when you're hungry or you're tired and you're just irritable.
Speaker 1: We were both there. We have both hit our peak.
Speaker 1: This is like week eight or something seven or I
Speaker 1: don't know. We had both hit our peak of just
Speaker 1: so tired and anything was gonna set us off. They
Speaker 1: had traded as producers. We had one producer named Mike
Speaker 1: the whole time that we loved, and he got cut
Speaker 1: for some reason, and we hated that because he was
Speaker 1: like our dude, and anything would have set the other
Speaker 1: person off. And she got mad at me for rolling
Speaker 1: my eyes, and I was like, um, roll my eyes.
Speaker 1: I don't roll my eyes. I don't talk to people
Speaker 1: in roll my but I was like, man, maybe I'm
Speaker 1: so tired to roll my eyes at her. She got
Speaker 1: so mad, and at the same time I was getting
Speaker 1: mad at her because she was frustrated that I couldn't
Speaker 1: get some steps right. We would do it fifty seven
Speaker 1: times and I couldn't get it, and so we were
Speaker 1: both She was like, don't roll your eyes. I was like,
Speaker 1: stop treating me like a kid like, I'm working as
Speaker 1: hard as I can, and she was like, if you're
Speaker 1: gonna roll your eyes, and she left the room and
Speaker 1: the cameras around the whole time, and I remember going,
Speaker 1: this is reality show. Let's show him reality. Well we're fighting,
Speaker 1: and so still in the back of my head, I'm going,
Speaker 1: I don't roll my eyes. Ever, Here's what happened. We
Speaker 1: were doing a waltz and I was spinning so much.
Speaker 1: I was so motion sick that I was trying to
Speaker 1: catch my balance and by doing that, my eyes are
Speaker 1: rolling on the top of my head, like like ohh.
Speaker 1: And she took that as me rolling my eyes just
Speaker 1: miscommunication as all it was because I don't roll my
Speaker 1: eyes and I was getting so sick. I have my
Speaker 1: doctors in medicine pro motion sickness. By the way, first
Speaker 1: danswer she's ever had to get motion sick dancing. Not
Speaker 1: only do we have a hairline fracture on my foot,
Speaker 1: a slight tear on my shoulder, but also I got
Speaker 1: motion sick like crazy and so but that was just
Speaker 1: a product of being together all the time. And I
Speaker 1: don't even know that she was even frustrated, because she
Speaker 1: would watch her the video on the phone and she'd
Speaker 1: be like, Oh, I don't know who she was mad a.
Speaker 1: I don't know. She may not even mad at me.
Speaker 1: She could have mad at herself for me not being
Speaker 1: able to get it. But we were both just so
Speaker 1: worn out that we were we just took it out
Speaker 1: on each other. I remember flying from Nashville back to
Speaker 1: Los Angeles. We sat beside each other. They put us
Speaker 1: in first class every time, which is super cool to
Speaker 1: show to do that. I think it's in everybody's contract. Um.
Speaker 1: We didn't say a worried each other the whole time
Speaker 1: for five hours, got off the airplane, went our separate ways.
Speaker 1: It was like a marriage and that it was the
Speaker 1: week that I said that, like a uh et or something.
Speaker 1: I was like, it was like a marriage. Man. Most
Speaker 1: times great, Sometimes it's not. But you're committed to working
Speaker 1: it out because you have to, because there's a there's
Speaker 1: an end goal. And so we uh We had some
Speaker 1: some big, big blow ups, but it always came back
Speaker 1: to the fact that there was such respect between us
Speaker 1: that we were there to work and win the freaking thing.
Speaker 1: I didn't know how we're gonna do it. We had
Speaker 1: to trust each other. I had to trust her that
Speaker 1: she was gonna get me to whatever place and I
Speaker 1: would stay if we needed. There were again, there were nice.
Speaker 1: We practiced for fourteen hours, and there were nice. We
Speaker 1: would go and do dress rehearsal on the show, and
Speaker 1: she made me we go back to the be the
Speaker 1: only ones to go back and train. But I trusted
Speaker 1: that she wasn't punishing me, that she was actually putting
Speaker 1: me in the best place to move forward. And she
Speaker 1: trusted me to do whatever crazy stuff I was gonna do,
Speaker 1: not even crazy, entertaining and frankly things I wanted to do. Anyway,
Speaker 1: I can't wait till they send my autitrap shoe back.
Speaker 1: I'm waiting for it. I was like, how often am
Speaker 1: I gonna get this is me? And I told Miked
Speaker 1: I was gonna do this is I'm gonna put a
Speaker 1: sharpie in my sock and I forgot to get the
Speaker 1: sharpie from you? Did you bring the sharpie? And if
Speaker 1: we got to get it from you? And I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put a sharpie in my sock on the
Speaker 1: last night, and if it goes well, I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: getta sign my shoe because how cool will that be?
Speaker 1: To have in my house. I signed to you by
Speaker 1: all three of the judges. What are they ever gonna
Speaker 1: be sitting together again except for on TV? So we
Speaker 1: do the mc hammer dance and everybody's like they do
Speaker 1: this thing where they're like boa and I reached down,
Speaker 1: take my shoe off, pull my sharpy out of my
Speaker 1: sock that I danced in. I felt it too while
Speaker 1: I was dancing, and heart a little bit, and I
Speaker 1: went over and I had him signed my shoe on
Speaker 1: TV because I knew there would be no other time
Speaker 1: to get him to do that. But I did what
Speaker 1: I thought anyone would do if they ran into all
Speaker 1: three of those judges. You're going to sign something, You
Speaker 1: take a picture with them and so um, and she
Speaker 1: trusted me to do really whatever I felt to entertain
Speaker 1: the people watching the show, and she trusted me that
Speaker 1: I thought that I figured out how to actually win
Speaker 1: the show by not being the best dancer. It's not
Speaker 1: strictly a dance competition, are It's not, or they wouldn't
Speaker 1: put the votes in there. If you don't want to
Speaker 1: watch a full dance show, go go to PBS and
Speaker 1: watch ballroom dancing and there's your best dance show right there.
Speaker 1: And so I think if people know that they approached
Speaker 1: it like it's an it's entertainment. They don't put something
Speaker 1: on ABC in prime time that isn't as entertaining as
Speaker 1: it can possibly be. Um, and I freaking want the show.
Speaker 1: I remember the the Uh, we'll run through the contestants
Speaker 1: in a minute if you want, and give your stories
Speaker 1: about each of them. Um, I remember doing we to
Speaker 1: the finale. We're standing there around that ball. Nobody ever
Speaker 1: told me anything. I also listen, there are conspiracy theories
Speaker 1: behind everything on that show where the people are slotted.
Speaker 1: I I I don't think there's a conspiracy to have
Speaker 1: someone win the show. And I say that as someone
Speaker 1: who won is I don't think that it was they had.
Speaker 1: They faced a lot of criticism after I won, and
Speaker 1: it wasn't comfortable for anyone, and I think, really, if
Speaker 1: they were going to do what they thought would be
Speaker 1: best for the show, they would have Milo would have
Speaker 1: won because he was the best dancer, and that had
Speaker 1: made me second. That way, it's like, oh, look at
Speaker 1: this guy, he finished second. He did really good and
Speaker 1: never dance finished second. That's why I don't I just
Speaker 1: I don't believe there's a conspiracy on that show. And
Speaker 1: I say that as a person who won, I know,
Speaker 1: and and how weird that is. I just don't because
Speaker 1: I thought if they were at the last minute, they'd
Speaker 1: have been like, oh, we should give to somebody who's
Speaker 1: really good, because I mean, really, Mike, if I would
Speaker 1: have finished second, everybody's been like, that's a great you
Speaker 1: did a great job. Somebody, Yeah, somebody that the right
Speaker 1: person one because he was the best dancer, which Milo was,
Speaker 1: and look at you you did second. Come on. They
Speaker 1: could have done that so easily, and then the next
Speaker 1: and then nobody gets pissed everybody he would have won,
Speaker 1: not me, and my heart, I wouldn't have one. And
Speaker 1: I felt the pressure to me started about weeks five
Speaker 1: or six, when I really felt like my people just
Speaker 1: voting and I could see it on social media and
Speaker 1: I could feel it. That's where the pressure came from
Speaker 1: to me. It wasn't from me, it wasn't from Sharnay.
Speaker 1: It was like, I really got to work hard and
Speaker 1: I gotta get better because who votes on our freaking
Speaker 1: TV show? I don't like Twice Taylor Hicks on an
Speaker 1: American Idol that maybe it. I think about it, so
Speaker 1: I knew what I was trying to do. I was
Speaker 1: asking people to vote for me when I only ever
Speaker 1: voted up. I got super passionate about something. Why was
Speaker 1: that so passionate about Taylor Hicks by the way, I
Speaker 1: don't know, but I was. And I'm so appreciative because
Speaker 1: I know the people voting for me don't normally vote
Speaker 1: on those shows. They don't, but I felt like I
Speaker 1: was representing them, and because of that, there was a
Speaker 1: lot of pressure that I put on myself to really
Speaker 1: do that and to do them justice. Um, we win,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, holy crap. And what's funny is I
Speaker 1: watched a lot of the videos from other couples when
Speaker 1: they won the show after after we won. I didn't
Speaker 1: do it until after we won. And what happens is
Speaker 1: when people win the show, they hug immediately and go
Speaker 1: right like yeah, and they like what can you believe it?
Speaker 1: We're both so shocked. We run away from each other
Speaker 1: like I'm like I found my hands and I'm like,
Speaker 1: oh my goodness, and she just like starts walking backward. Yeah.
Speaker 1: She was like it was like when you like out
Speaker 1: of breath, you know, put your hands on your legs
Speaker 1: or you're like vomiting. That's what she did. And for me,
Speaker 1: I put my hands in my head. I was like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, I cannot believe this actually happened. It
Speaker 1: was like we were separated, and it was the opposite
Speaker 1: of what other what's happened with other couples, because we
Speaker 1: were both in shocked that they were actually giving us
Speaker 1: that trophy. And so we go and it's a whirlwind.
Speaker 1: It's almost blurry what happened afterwards, because you're just thrown
Speaker 1: to so much press. But what was important to me
Speaker 1: is that all my people that flew out to California
Speaker 1: because I brought out a mod, I brought up Jared
Speaker 1: and Amy and all these people came out that I
Speaker 1: I left all the press and I'll just to go
Speaker 1: out and hang out with you guys for a bit,
Speaker 1: because all of that other stuff wasn't gonna be there
Speaker 1: in three or four days. You know who cares. Dancing
Speaker 1: stars won't even matter in a few weeks to anybody else. Like,
Speaker 1: I'm still living in a bit, but the world moves on.
Speaker 1: I'll be on American Idol. I'll always be the world's
Speaker 1: best dancer. Don't get me wrong, but you know, there's
Speaker 1: been many other Dancing with the Stars champions, and I
Speaker 1: think it's something. This is a cool memory that we
Speaker 1: all have together. But I wanted to come over on
Speaker 1: the ball room and hang out with my people that
Speaker 1: were there to support me, and They're like, Bobby, need
Speaker 1: to get depressed, and I was like, nope, all these
Speaker 1: people came to see me, I'm gonna spend some time
Speaker 1: with them. So in the middle of it, I went
Speaker 1: over and as it was just it was still Haywire
Speaker 1: on the floor, I went over and hung out at
Speaker 1: the judge's table with everybody. It was just like, how
Speaker 1: crazy is this? And then I went back into press
Speaker 1: and I got to meet him at Smith. I gotta
Speaker 1: meet a lot of cool people on the show. Boys
Speaker 1: them in the Blue Man Group, Emtt Smith, Um, Donnie Osmond.
Speaker 1: There were so many people that came through. Lauren Dagle,
Speaker 1: who's a newer pop artist now but I'm a big
Speaker 1: fan of hung out with her, like half an hour
Speaker 1: on the finale we were practicing. Uh, I'll probably go
Speaker 1: through this and look back and realize the mc hammer
Speaker 1: tweeted me that's cool. So many good memories came from
Speaker 1: this show, and I think there will even be some
Speaker 1: people that come from the show that I'll be friends with.
Speaker 1: I think Sharn and I will forever be bonded by us.
Speaker 1: We we did this show together, and had we just
Speaker 1: done the show together, it always been like, remember the
Speaker 1: time we did that show together. We see each other way,
Speaker 1: but because we won, will always be bonded together. There's
Speaker 1: just something to her winning her first trophy with me
Speaker 1: and me not I still don't know what I'm doing.
Speaker 1: I if you ever wondered if you could do something,
Speaker 1: You're like, I don't know if I could do that.
Speaker 1: I freaking want a dance show. You can do anything,
Speaker 1: Like you can do anything. I want to dance show.
Speaker 1: And I didn't win it by just dancing. But it
Speaker 1: doesn't matter what you want to do. You don't win.
Speaker 1: You don't actually get ahead by just doing what you're
Speaker 1: supposed to do. Because I know, I'm really talented people
Speaker 1: that haven't quite figured out how to use their talent
Speaker 1: to get to the highest level. But I know some
Speaker 1: talent to people that also think about things in a
Speaker 1: different way and are and are super successful. Um. But
Speaker 1: but aside from that, let's run through the contestants, because
Speaker 1: there really wasn't anyone that people didn't like. I didn't
Speaker 1: talk to Nash hardly. Ever. She would come in and
Speaker 1: out and she was doing I think she was like
Speaker 1: singing and stuff. So she would be the only one
Speaker 1: that I really don't have any story about because we
Speaker 1: really didn't talk. Never anything negative. Nobody ever said anything negative,
Speaker 1: and they often said that our cast was one of
Speaker 1: the like the nicest casts, because we were all just
Speaker 1: happy to be there. But other than to Nash, I
Speaker 1: kind of had stories with everybody. You know, it's some
Speaker 1: kind of bond. Alright, go ahead, you got Nikki Glazer,
Speaker 1: one of the funniest people I ever met my whole life.
Speaker 1: Like there's like I do comedy right, and it's like
Speaker 1: someone who is really good in their high school, in
Speaker 1: their high school league. I go out in new shows,
Speaker 1: people laughing, right, Oh, it's funny show. But then once
Speaker 1: they get up and they see major league players, are like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, this is not the same. I should
Speaker 1: shut up now and just go back to my high
Speaker 1: school league and have fun there. Um comedian, funniest person,
Speaker 1: possibly the funniest person ever met, such so good that
Speaker 1: it made me realize I suck all right, go ahead
Speaker 1: Danielle instead. Um I didn't spend a whole lot of time.
Speaker 1: She got voted off kind of early. But Danielle was
Speaker 1: she was blind, and what we talked about a lot
Speaker 1: was she wants to write a book. And she was like,
Speaker 1: I'm not to writ a book. I'm not to put
Speaker 1: it all out there. And I was like, I didn't
Speaker 1: know how to write a book. Clueless. That's how ever,
Speaker 1: in Tuna, I said the same thing about that as
Speaker 1: I did with the show. Just do it. Just go
Speaker 1: into it, do it wrong, because you can do it
Speaker 1: wrong and you figure out how to do it right,
Speaker 1: or you realize the wrong way that you're doing it.
Speaker 1: It's just the right way no one else has tried yet.
Speaker 1: And so we talked a lot about that, and we talked.
Speaker 1: We had a lot. Even when she came back, we
Speaker 1: talked about that about her book A super nice um
Speaker 1: I think she got voted off second or third. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So again the quicker people got voted off except for Nicki.
Speaker 1: Nicki and I stayed in touch the whole time because
Speaker 1: we had actually written some stuff with each other. Um
Speaker 1: I still talked to Nicky. Nick was in my final dance.
Speaker 1: But yeah, Danielle, and that's what we really really talked
Speaker 1: about about, Like she was really nice. What else blood
Speaker 1: Mary Lou I asked her to be on my final dance.
Speaker 1: She got sick the last day. She was gonna be
Speaker 1: on top of the cake with NICKI. I thought when
Speaker 1: they cast that show that she was going to win
Speaker 1: the show because she was the most famous one. In
Speaker 1: my mind, she was the most famous one because she
Speaker 1: was the one they put in the header merrily read
Speaker 1: and cast on Dancing with the Stars because she was
Speaker 1: the gold medalist. Now she was gold medalist. I think
Speaker 1: I don't know years she was going medalist. I may
Speaker 1: not even been able to watch it on TV eighty
Speaker 1: four or something. Hey, okay, so I was. I didn't
Speaker 1: watch TV then. I wasn't even a kindergarten yet. But
Speaker 1: she was the most famous. Remember meeting her the first
Speaker 1: day we went up to do uh like clothes like,
Speaker 1: and she was super nice, and I was like, holy crap,
Speaker 1: merely written is nice? Um? But yeah, I really enjoyed
Speaker 1: her and I met her kids. I think she even
Speaker 1: said on the show she was going through a divorce.
Speaker 1: Like on we never saw the packages. Even during the
Speaker 1: show we could we even see them most time because
Speaker 1: they had us going other places, like the things leading
Speaker 1: up to the dance. Go Ahead, Nancy for them the
Speaker 1: Facts of Life Nancy McKinnon. We were both kind of
Speaker 1: clueless when we got there and we were on a
Speaker 1: bus and nobody wanted to sit with us. It was
Speaker 1: like Forrest Gump and I was walking through, and you're
Speaker 1: more intimidated by the fact that you think people don't
Speaker 1: want to sit with you, or don't like you, or
Speaker 1: that you're weird. That's how I felt. I felt like
Speaker 1: the outcast. And I walked through the bus and all
Speaker 1: these fancy dancers, which by the way, I became friends
Speaker 1: with later and realized they're super cool, normal people, but
Speaker 1: it was like, can't see it here, That's what I
Speaker 1: felt like. Seats taken and Nancy Joe from the Facts
Speaker 1: of Life was like, hey, sit with me, and I
Speaker 1: was like, boom, cool person. And she lives in Austin
Speaker 1: and so I was like, does at home? So yeah,
Speaker 1: it was really cool. What else? John Snyder? When I
Speaker 1: would watch John dance, he was like the consummate performer,
Speaker 1: like he regardless, he was getting things right or not.
Speaker 1: His face. Everything about him was controlled and like I
Speaker 1: would watch him and go, man, I wish I could
Speaker 1: do that, because everything about me wasn't. It was the opposite.
Speaker 1: My face is all over the place, my um uh.
Speaker 1: And John was a really nice guy. I know from
Speaker 1: watching reruns The Dukes of Hazzard. I guess he was
Speaker 1: on Small Bill. Didn't know that. But he was gone
Speaker 1: a lot, So I don't have a lot of John
Speaker 1: stories because he was gone a lot. He was staying
Speaker 1: in Louisiana or Nashville, and so he would travel a lot.
Speaker 1: But his dance partner, Emma, one of my favorite people
Speaker 1: that I met that entire show because after they got
Speaker 1: kicked off, she worked with me a lot. Um. But
Speaker 1: Johnson and guy did. I don't have a lot of
Speaker 1: stories about it because he was gone the whole time.
Speaker 1: Maybe my favorite dude that met between him and Joe,
Speaker 1: maybe my favorite dude, nicest guy, possibly the greatest defensive
Speaker 1: end outside linebacker, I wonder, depending on what defense he
Speaker 1: was in that we've seen in the NFL in the
Speaker 1: last twenty years, and I was like this dude, I
Speaker 1: was a little intimidated by him, but the nicest guy
Speaker 1: the nicest guy. Everybody loved a Marcus because he was
Speaker 1: so nice, but he was so big. And I brought
Speaker 1: him my final dance because I loved him so much,
Speaker 1: and he lifted me up above his head. He's huge,
Speaker 1: loved it, loved him, love it. Can't say enough good
Speaker 1: things about him. I really would go to Wan Pablo
Speaker 1: and say, like, dude, you are so freaking talented everything
Speaker 1: you do. And I liked Wan Pablo a lot um
Speaker 1: When he went home, and I said this on the show,
Speaker 1: I thought he was way too good to go home.
Speaker 1: But the competitive part of me was like, I'm glad
Speaker 1: he's gone. I'd never be able to beat him dancing,
Speaker 1: so let's get rid of all the good dancers. Let's
Speaker 1: just leave me and grocery store Joe. Let's let us
Speaker 1: battle it out to the death. I really liked Wan Pablo,
Speaker 1: though quiet, and I think some people we're afraid to
Speaker 1: approach him because he was so perfect and everything he
Speaker 1: looked great, he danced great, seeing he ate great. Everything
Speaker 1: about him was just right. He's just amazing. Everything about
Speaker 1: it was amazing. I think some people were intidated by him.
Speaker 1: I wasn't. I would go up to him. Like dude,
Speaker 1: and I would ask him questions about because he went
Speaker 1: to like fame school that you know, he went to
Speaker 1: school talking about a seing and dance and he danced
Speaker 1: in all these broadways And I was like, dude, you
Speaker 1: were everything I'm not and it's amazing. I like him
Speaker 1: Pablo a lot. Alexis, we didn't talk a whole lot.
Speaker 1: You know, she was around, but she didn't say a
Speaker 1: whole lot. She was very sweet when she would talk,
Speaker 1: but yeah, she we didn't. You know, there was me
Speaker 1: and her partner. I loved Alan, like that was the dude.
Speaker 1: But yeah, Legis, I didn't talk a whole lot. She
Speaker 1: was never not nice, but we just didn't you know,
Speaker 1: what does she like two and I'm thirty eight? Like
Speaker 1: what does she have in common with me? I would
Speaker 1: try to talk to he a little bit, but you know,
Speaker 1: I don't know. We didn't talk a whole lot. Love
Speaker 1: We got a team weeks. She became a best friend,
Speaker 1: uh and then we became so close after and she
Speaker 1: they were the only couple that I genuinely rooted good
Speaker 1: for everybody else I'd be like, I like you hope
Speaker 1: you fall down? Um her and Kio I would watch.
Speaker 1: I didn't watch a single dance the last four weeks.
Speaker 1: I watched no nobody else's dances ever, because I realized
Speaker 1: it was doing nothing but affecting me in a negative way.
Speaker 1: Because I knew I couldn't do that, I was just
Speaker 1: gonna do what I did, except there's I would watch
Speaker 1: the and I would root so hard that they would
Speaker 1: do good because they were just so awesome. I loved
Speaker 1: them as a team. She was from Harry Potter, never
Speaker 1: seen Harry Potter, so to me, that wasn't a thing. Um,
Speaker 1: it was really cool. And that's the only dances that
Speaker 1: I watched the final like month of the show. She's
Speaker 1: a vegan and she would lecture me on veganism. Didn't care.
Speaker 1: She was the best. And I would go like, how
Speaker 1: do you know plants can't feel We just can't talk
Speaker 1: to them, you know we how we community? She's like, well,
Speaker 1: they have no and I'd be like, anyway, there's a
Speaker 1: whole thing. I loved her. She wrote a funny Instagram
Speaker 1: post in one of her last instagrams about she was
Speaker 1: like he congratulations to Bobby. I would watch you in
Speaker 1: team week and you had you were clueless and you
Speaker 1: would work double the time just to try to catch up.
Speaker 1: She was right, I would have to. And I thought
Speaker 1: her post was so funny because she was like congratulating me,
Speaker 1: but also kind of taking a funny like a little
Speaker 1: funniest fight, like you really weren't a good dancer. I know,
Speaker 1: I know, I loved her. I would talk about her
Speaker 1: for thirty minutes. Go ahead, dude, that kid, he's gonna
Speaker 1: be so famous. He's gonna be still. He's seventeen, He's
Speaker 1: gonna be so famous. Good looking kid, great personality, great dance.
Speaker 1: There can sing like if we would forget sometimes he
Speaker 1: was seventeen because he was so mature for his age,
Speaker 1: and his mom was super nice. Cameron Manheim, who I
Speaker 1: didn't really know her from acting, that would look her
Speaker 1: up afterwards We're like, oh yeah, I like at that.
Speaker 1: She's said some stuff. I love the kid, and early
Speaker 1: on in the the show would kind of give him tips
Speaker 1: on how to work with the camera, like during the
Speaker 1: live show, like, dude, don't do dead face. I always
Speaker 1: have something to say. And I started to coach him
Speaker 1: a little bit and then I realized he's probably gonna
Speaker 1: beat me. And I was about week five I saw him,
Speaker 1: go back, go back, nothing. He used to do great kid,
Speaker 1: like great, his mom should be so proud. Should have
Speaker 1: won the show like you should have. If any other season,
Speaker 1: if I wouldn't have been there and approached a different way,
Speaker 1: he'd have won the show. Best dancer left, all in all,
Speaker 1: best well rounded on that show, like dancer and lovableness.
Speaker 1: If I hadn't cracked the code, he had won the show. Great.
Speaker 1: I couldn't say enough good things about it. Love that kid.
Speaker 1: What else? That was? Like, my dude, Like we bonded
Speaker 1: over just life. We're both thrown into something. We had
Speaker 1: no comfort doing this together doing it, but we were together.
Speaker 1: We'd be at the urinal being beside each other and
Speaker 1: be like, dude, you're nervous. I'm so nervous. Oh my god.
Speaker 1: Every week and then it'll be like you're getting less nervous.
Speaker 1: U uh. And I put him in my final dance
Speaker 1: because we really bonded. They've never seen The Bachelor or
Speaker 1: the Bachelor in Paradise, so there wasn't that where I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, just he was just a normal dude
Speaker 1: aside from me. He was just a normal of the
Speaker 1: normalist dudes there. And we kept getting put through. We
Speaker 1: were both feeling criticism, and he came up to me
Speaker 1: after He's like, hey, man, I know I've been eliminated,
Speaker 1: but like I'm rooted for you because like you're kind
Speaker 1: of representing us. And so I really liked Joe, really
Speaker 1: liked him a lot. Took a minute because he's real quiet,
Speaker 1: and when someone's really quiet, you go they had dick
Speaker 1: or they just quiet. It turns out he was just
Speaker 1: quiet but so funny. I really like Joe. On the
Speaker 1: dancer side of things, I think my favorite like um
Speaker 1: Emma and saw Asha. They're two dancers, two different pros.
Speaker 1: Emma dance with John Schneider and Sasha danced with merry
Speaker 1: Ly Retten, but they're married. They're like, I want to
Speaker 1: be friends with them forever. They were that they were
Speaker 1: so nice and I get to go back on a
Speaker 1: tour for a few days and I really am looking
Speaker 1: forward to hanging out with them and Lindsay, who was
Speaker 1: to Marcus partner. Like they really worked with me um
Speaker 1: Whenever Charlotte was like instructing the big group, they would
Speaker 1: pull me aside and work with me. Um Kio. There
Speaker 1: were times with Keyo had to teach me how to
Speaker 1: dance their team weak goes me and Kyo. Dude, he
Speaker 1: was doing the girl parts and he was just he
Speaker 1: was like, he's that Bobby, let's do it, and that
Speaker 1: sounds like an Australian. He's not a strong but like,
Speaker 1: there's means so many cool people that you don't want
Speaker 1: to vows like the coolest dude ever. But he got
Speaker 1: kicked off quickly because he had Nancy. I think so
Speaker 1: there are a lot of them. The troupe is good.
Speaker 1: Is there anything I haven't said anything that any bombshell?
Speaker 1: I haven't I said I think you think of it
Speaker 1: was that it was the best experience. I'm so glad
Speaker 1: it's over. People were going, man, two days after the show,
Speaker 1: you're gonna be wake m Ben and be like, well,
Speaker 1: what's happening? Two days later, welcome the show. I was like,
Speaker 1: thank God, it's not happening. I was so tired. I
Speaker 1: actually went in box today for the first time. I
Speaker 1: went to a boxing class. My cardio is an A plus.
Speaker 1: Did a whole class and I was like, I'm not
Speaker 1: even breathing. I have a little gut right now because
Speaker 1: I've been eating like crap because I'm like SCREWPT I
Speaker 1: don't care right now, but my cardio is a plus.
Speaker 1: I found this little lump on my lif It talked
Speaker 1: about this little ump I found in my leg um.
Speaker 1: I found this little lump on my leg and I
Speaker 1: was like, oh no, I was kind of rubbing it
Speaker 1: and yeah, it's a calf calf muscle. Yeah it's the
Speaker 1: first time ever. Yeah you like that. Thank you very much.
Speaker 1: It was an awesome experience. I'm glad I didn't know
Speaker 1: how hard it was going into it. I'm glad I
Speaker 1: didn't know how bad I was before I did it.
Speaker 1: I didn't know I was gonna be that bad. To
Speaker 1: everyone who keeps messaging me, going you suck as a dancer,
Speaker 1: shut up. I don't think I'm any better than you do.
Speaker 1: Like anything else that I do, I'm never the most talented,
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna outwork everyone, and I'm also gonna I'm
Speaker 1: gonna know the rules so well. Like radio, I know
Speaker 1: the rules so well, I know when I need to
Speaker 1: go to break. I know the science behind it's so
Speaker 1: well that it allows me whenever I do my creative thing,
Speaker 1: I can work inside the guidelines. The same with the show.
Speaker 1: I just learned the science of the show. And I'll
Speaker 1: end with this. I believe that you have to surround
Speaker 1: yourself with good people in order to do great things.
Speaker 1: And I did that between you guys, the best. Could
Speaker 1: not have done it without you at all, zero present.
Speaker 1: I would have done it without you and Sharna, which
Speaker 1: is would have never happened. I surrounded myself with the
Speaker 1: best people. Let me also put my radio staff in there,
Speaker 1: because they had to endure a lot of me coming
Speaker 1: in exhausted. They had to endure me being the high,
Speaker 1: highest and lowest of moods. It's physically pushed in ways
Speaker 1: I've never been pushed before. And there's a big shadow
Speaker 1: that goes to them too. So I believe if you
Speaker 1: can surround yourself with the best people, great things can happen.
Speaker 1: And if you have people who aren't going around you,
Speaker 1: it's up to you to change it. You can either
Speaker 1: change them or change the way that you're working. And
Speaker 1: so I think this. I think that's how long has
Speaker 1: this been a little over an hour? All right? Anything
Speaker 1: I've not said in that in the tell all? I think.
Speaker 1: The thing I just wondered from being there every week
Speaker 1: is do you guys have like a list of like
Speaker 1: things you can pull from for like the set, like
Speaker 1: if you want fire like water. Um, so there's a creative.
Speaker 1: I would I was not a good enough to answer
Speaker 1: to really know about the creative. But the producers on
Speaker 1: that show, Um, there's an executive producer named Ashley that
Speaker 1: is so good at what she does and like Sharna
Speaker 1: was the best, best choreographer, the best idea person our
Speaker 1: final dance, Like I sent sharnas some ideas like I
Speaker 1: wanted to talk and stuff, and she created this fantastic
Speaker 1: dance just for me, like built for me. And they do, um,
Speaker 1: really wonderful jobs of doing that. I don't know. I
Speaker 1: have nothing to do with that, but I think they
Speaker 1: come up with these concepts and um, they make it happen.
Speaker 1: I'm not educated enough to give that answer. But no,
Speaker 1: I don't get to walk around a warehouse and go,
Speaker 1: I'll take the cow, I'll take the I'll take the
Speaker 1: large honey badger. Can I get the Bazuka? No? I don't.
Speaker 1: That was just crazy to see them just pull out
Speaker 1: these big, elaborate pieces for one dance. It takes this
Speaker 1: entire team just get this one car out there or
Speaker 1: something or set this like pyrotechnic. It was crazy, no idea,
Speaker 1: not educated enough to give that answer. ABC was fantastic,
Speaker 1: The company BBC was fantastic, the people that own the show,
Speaker 1: the people. It was just such a great experience. The
Speaker 1: hardest thing I would Yeah, is it? So? I think
Speaker 1: that's it? Anything else you wanna ask? All right, thank
Speaker 1: you so much. Hopefully this answer some question sens also
Speaker 1: hit me out. Appreciate you all right? This episode? What
Speaker 1: thanks to life flock you feel like people like this one?
Speaker 1: I think? Yeah, all right, shout out. If I forgot you,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry and I gotta go bye ready m hm
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