WEBVTT - #145 - How Bobby Won Dancing With The Stars: The True Untold Story

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to episode. And I wanted to do this episode

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<v Speaker 1>while Dancing with the Stars was still fresh in my mind.

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<v Speaker 1>It's let's today Sunday. So I guess less than a

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<v Speaker 1>week after the finale and after that I was the

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<v Speaker 1>champion and Charnat was the champion. And I want to

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<v Speaker 1>do this one to serve not only you guys and

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<v Speaker 1>tell you some stuff that I have I got to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about yet, but also to listen. If anyone else

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<v Speaker 1>is gonna do that show, they should be directed to

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<v Speaker 1>this next podcast right I'm about to do because hopefully

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be able to share some stuff with you that

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<v Speaker 1>will help you out as you're about to do the show.

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<v Speaker 1>Because there are people that help me, but everybody that

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<v Speaker 1>helped me was pretty conventional. Um, and as you know

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<v Speaker 1>if you watch the show, I was definitely unconventional on

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<v Speaker 1>and the drink water and we begin a right. If

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<v Speaker 1>there's anything that I forget to say, because Mike d

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<v Speaker 1>kind of lived this with me a bit. We we

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<v Speaker 1>lived in the two bedroom apartment in in Los Angeles

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<v Speaker 1>a bit. It was called Glendale, and we had to

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<v Speaker 1>live different from all the rest of the cast because

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<v Speaker 1>I had to work the whole time. I was the

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<v Speaker 1>only one that was working full time. Uh. DeMarcus was

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<v Speaker 1>doing a couple of days a week coaching with the Broncos,

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<v Speaker 1>but other than that, everybody else was kind of at

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<v Speaker 1>it um just the dancing. So Miked and I moved

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<v Speaker 1>three months ago or so to a tiny apartment in Glendale, California,

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<v Speaker 1>And in the morning we would go to Burbank and

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<v Speaker 1>do the radio show and then I wouldn't see Mike

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<v Speaker 1>again until some time later, and I would walk in

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<v Speaker 1>exhaust every three months. So hold on, man to war.

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<v Speaker 1>So let me start at the beginning. They started talking

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<v Speaker 1>to me about Dancing with the Stars actually months ago,

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<v Speaker 1>even before I went on American Idol, and the exact

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<v Speaker 1>producer of that show, one of them, Dena Cats, I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, I think you'd be good on Dancing with

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<v Speaker 1>the Stars and Rob Mills at ABC, and I was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>sounds fun. Well, between that time American Idol happened and

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<v Speaker 1>I went on there and some other things started happening

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<v Speaker 1>in the TV world, and I went from nobody caring

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<v Speaker 1>about me at all, which has been pretty much my

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<v Speaker 1>whole career, just dealing people to care like the like

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<v Speaker 1>the people people I'm talking about, like network people. Two,

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<v Speaker 1>I started to get oddly a lot of show offers

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<v Speaker 1>at once, so I had to decide what I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to do. And I really wanted to do Dancing with

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<v Speaker 1>the Stars just because I thought it would be fun.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't think it would be as hard as it was.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought it'd be pretty hard because I've never danced.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think it was gonna be as grueling as

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<v Speaker 1>it was. And um yeah, I chose to do Dancing

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<v Speaker 1>with the Stars. I didn't know if I could with

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<v Speaker 1>the American Idol schedule, because in that same amount of time,

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<v Speaker 1>I had signed a deal with American Idol ABC to

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<v Speaker 1>do full time Idol, and some of the dates were

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<v Speaker 1>on top of each other, which later VC worked him

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<v Speaker 1>out for me. But um yeah, I chose Dancing with

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<v Speaker 1>the Stars. And I didn't officially get to take it

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<v Speaker 1>until like two weeks before I started training. I wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>sure that I was gonna be able to do it,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I had never met Sharna until like the

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<v Speaker 1>day I met Sharna on the show, and so they

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<v Speaker 1>flew to Nashville. I remember doing the radio show and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, wow, today I'm gonna start training for

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<v Speaker 1>Dancing with the Stars. But I couldn't talk about it

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<v Speaker 1>because the first two weeks up until the announcement on

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<v Speaker 1>Good Morning America, you can't say anything about it, and

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<v Speaker 1>you have to practice in secret, and nobody can know.

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<v Speaker 1>I think only a couple of people here knew, and

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<v Speaker 1>so you kind of have to go, well, I've seen

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of hours, but I'm not gonna tell you

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<v Speaker 1>where I'm going. This is not weird by and disappear,

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<v Speaker 1>And I remember I was We were in a dance

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<v Speaker 1>studio in Nashville for the first couple of weeks because

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<v Speaker 1>I had a move to Los Angeles yet, and I

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<v Speaker 1>hadn't really seen the show enough to know the dancers

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<v Speaker 1>by like, how I know some people, you know, love

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<v Speaker 1>the dancers on the show because they've been there for

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<v Speaker 1>so long. I didn't know who Sharnon was. She knew

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<v Speaker 1>who I was, obviously, and so here was this Australian

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<v Speaker 1>professional dancer in this goofy Southern radio dude. And so

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<v Speaker 1>the thing about Sharna is what I knew immediately because

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<v Speaker 1>I googled everything, was that all of her last partners,

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<v Speaker 1>you may look this up, like her last partners were

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<v Speaker 1>all pretty much professional athletes. So I knew that she

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<v Speaker 1>had been close to winning a bunch but had never won.

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<v Speaker 1>And that was kind of her story. That I knew

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<v Speaker 1>about her was that she was always the one like

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<v Speaker 1>the DiCaprio, like everyone thought she was, if not the best,

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<v Speaker 1>one of the best, but she had never won. And

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<v Speaker 1>she had been given some great partners as far as physically,

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<v Speaker 1>like I believe she had Josh Norman, who was an

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<v Speaker 1>NFL player. Do you have the old list work working backwards,

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<v Speaker 1>So Josh Norman uh NFL players, had Derek fisher In

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<v Speaker 1>an NBA player, Antonio Brown, an NFL player, James Heins

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<v Speaker 1>Cliff race car driver, Nick Carter, Nick Carter dancer, Backstreet board.

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<v Speaker 1>So that my point is everybody that she had before

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<v Speaker 1>me kind of knew physically what they were capable of.

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<v Speaker 1>They were rather they all did a professionally. As a

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<v Speaker 1>matter of fact, they all were paid to physically do things.

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<v Speaker 1>And then she gets me and I think that we

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<v Speaker 1>were both kind of stunned at what we'd gotten herself into. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>And again we didn't really know each other yet, and

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<v Speaker 1>so I was clueless. I mean I ended the show

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<v Speaker 1>still somewhat clueless. But after I did the math six

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<v Speaker 1>hours of training, and we never took a day off

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<v Speaker 1>in three months because we couldn't afford to because everyone

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<v Speaker 1>else was so much better than us. They were so

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<v Speaker 1>far ahead of us that we couldn't afford to take

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<v Speaker 1>a day off because we weren't going to catch them.

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<v Speaker 1>We were just trying to put ourselves in a position

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<v Speaker 1>whenever showtime hit to be ready to do the show. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>And that started. We woke up, did the radio show,

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<v Speaker 1>and we started every Tuesday. It was like boop, back

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<v Speaker 1>at it. We kind of had this grid of the

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<v Speaker 1>way we did things, and so we started practicing. And

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<v Speaker 1>our remember them saying our first style of dance was

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<v Speaker 1>a jive, and I was like, I never heard of it.

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<v Speaker 1>I heard it, like hey, why you talking that jive?

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<v Speaker 1>Or like hey why I don't know, Like in the

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<v Speaker 1>seventies people say the jive. I know what that was,

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<v Speaker 1>like the hand give from Greece, you know, So and

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<v Speaker 1>I remember I lost twelve pounds and two and a

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<v Speaker 1>half weeks because I didn't really eat. I don't really

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<v Speaker 1>have time to eat. I was so tired. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to eat because I was working and dancing a jib, which,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, I learned later is the most physically

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<v Speaker 1>demanding of all the dances because it's so fast. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of jumping around. And I lost a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of weight quickly, and so much so that later on Sharna,

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<v Speaker 1>not the whole time, but like weeks four or five, six,

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<v Speaker 1>she would order food and have it sent to the

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<v Speaker 1>room and we'd have to stop practice that she would

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<v Speaker 1>make me eat because I wasn't. I wouldn't stopped like

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<v Speaker 1>I was there of work and that was it um

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<v Speaker 1>and it really wasn't hungry while I was working. So

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<v Speaker 1>we go and then we moved out to l A.

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<v Speaker 1>And I remember leaving the house going, well, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be back very often if I last. And we

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<v Speaker 1>moved out to this tiny apartment. It felt like college again,

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<v Speaker 1>and I mean they paid for the apartment. We got there.

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<v Speaker 1>It was fully furnished, cable there was even like a

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<v Speaker 1>cordless phone, which I thought was weird. Yeah, it's a

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<v Speaker 1>cordless landline and so, and we lived there and I

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<v Speaker 1>would go to work and I would uber every day.

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<v Speaker 1>My uber bill was so high they gave us a

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<v Speaker 1>rental car. They gave me a renal car, but might

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<v Speaker 1>be pretty much kept a rental car. And then I

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<v Speaker 1>just ubered to Burbank to where the radio station was,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was in sweats for three months. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know that I wore jeans more than three times, like

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<v Speaker 1>normal human clothes more than three times, except for dressing

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<v Speaker 1>up for that show on an occasional work event. And

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<v Speaker 1>so it'd stay in sweats and cut off shirts and hoodies.

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<v Speaker 1>And you couldn't wear logos or you have to do

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<v Speaker 1>everything backward. So all my clothes were it was all

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<v Speaker 1>is backward inside out. And so I'll go to this

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<v Speaker 1>practice place, and you know, I was kind of looking

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<v Speaker 1>at my calendar. We rarely practiced less than six hours,

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<v Speaker 1>almost never, and there were days we practiced up to

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<v Speaker 1>thirteen hours, depending on where we were in the in

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<v Speaker 1>the week, and we had to travel a lot. Then

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<v Speaker 1>there were some people that traveled as well, like John

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<v Speaker 1>Schneider traveled a bit because he didn't want to stay

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<v Speaker 1>in l a um. But and we can go to

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<v Speaker 1>the cast too, and I can tell you stories about

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<v Speaker 1>all of them. And I mean, listen, what do I

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<v Speaker 1>care now? Shows over, I can say whatever I want, um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and I wish there was no I don't

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<v Speaker 1>wish it. I'm kind of glad there's not. But it

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<v Speaker 1>was such a good experience to me because of the people,

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<v Speaker 1>meaning the crew, the cast, the producers. They were all

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<v Speaker 1>so awesome and there's nothing really behind the scenes to

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<v Speaker 1>tell you about anything that really irritated me about that.

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<v Speaker 1>They were from the executive producers down to the stage

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<v Speaker 1>manager to what they called the troop, the backup Dan

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<v Speaker 1>two later on the other partners of the other stars.

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<v Speaker 1>Once they would get eliminated, they would help me, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I would use them as tools. Um. So there,

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<v Speaker 1>it's such a positive experience. There's the hardest thing I've

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<v Speaker 1>ever done, but it's such a positive experience. And there

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<v Speaker 1>are things I'll talk about, um that are a bit juicier,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess, but it was such a positive experience that

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<v Speaker 1>I you know, there have been people that have finished

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<v Speaker 1>that show and have come off like angry and not me.

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<v Speaker 1>I had the greatest time when I wasn't about to

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<v Speaker 1>vomit because I was so tired at the greatest time. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, Like we would start on Tuesday and by Thursday,

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<v Speaker 1>we'd have to have it shot sometimes on Friday, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the rehearsals and dress rehearsals, and and there

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<v Speaker 1>were clothing, their fittings and their wardrobe department's amazing. And

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<v Speaker 1>they make everything by hand. They don't go to coals

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<v Speaker 1>and buy the stuff. Everything is made. It start of

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<v Speaker 1>the fabric. Everything you saw me in and it started

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<v Speaker 1>with the fabric and they made it all and we

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<v Speaker 1>go and put it all on and I'd have mine on,

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<v Speaker 1>Charne would have hers and she would go, now, let's

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<v Speaker 1>change this, and they would freaking change it and they

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<v Speaker 1>would restone things. I've never worked something Ryan Stones in

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<v Speaker 1>my life, never been shirtless in public. More in my

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<v Speaker 1>life then when I was on that show. So, um,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a really great experience. I did went unconventionally. Now

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<v Speaker 1>here's where it starts to get a little a little

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<v Speaker 1>different from my approach to the show, and that I

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<v Speaker 1>knew I was never gonna be able to catch up

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<v Speaker 1>with the great dancers on that show. I knew from

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<v Speaker 1>the beginning they had trained for ten plus years, said

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<v Speaker 1>the ones. I think that all three of the people

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<v Speaker 1>I was in the finals with had years and years

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<v Speaker 1>and years and years of training, maybe ten plus, because

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<v Speaker 1>they said that Alexis had. This is just people talking

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<v Speaker 1>to me that Alexis had ten years of ballet mylos

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<v Speaker 1>been dancing since he was tiny. Of Anna, she was

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<v Speaker 1>like the second favorite to win the show when it started. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure what her dance experience was, but she

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<v Speaker 1>obviously had had some by talking to them. So I

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<v Speaker 1>was the one that didn't have any dance experience. And

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<v Speaker 1>so what I had realized early on when I would

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<v Speaker 1>watch to Nash or Wan Pablo dances that I was

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<v Speaker 1>never going to be that good. And I felt like

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<v Speaker 1>if I could get through week two or three, that

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<v Speaker 1>I could figure out a sideway to win that show,

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<v Speaker 1>meaning that show usually is one by somebody who can

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<v Speaker 1>dance really well. I don't know they've had anyone win

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<v Speaker 1>that show that really couldn't dance in a long time,

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<v Speaker 1>like with no dance experience. The only one I can

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<v Speaker 1>think of, and I'm not sure is Bendy Irwin. Other

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<v Speaker 1>than that, just by looking at all the data on

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<v Speaker 1>Wikipedia and like you're either an athlete or a dancer

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<v Speaker 1>in some capacity, and I wasn't that, and I was

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<v Speaker 1>determined to figure out how to win. Now. Here's what

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<v Speaker 1>I figured out was that if I could get eights

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<v Speaker 1>and even sevens, that put me in a place to

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<v Speaker 1>win every week. Meaning the show was split in half

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<v Speaker 1>half judges half fan vote, and I knew if I

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<v Speaker 1>could get an eight and the best if they got

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<v Speaker 1>a ten, that only put me at a depth sit

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<v Speaker 1>on the first half. But I felt that I could

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<v Speaker 1>get more than a lead over them in the fan vote.

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<v Speaker 1>Of all of them want Pablo to Nash. I felt

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<v Speaker 1>like people would identify more with me than they would

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<v Speaker 1>with them, so they could go and dance their brains

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<v Speaker 1>out because they were such good dancers. But if they

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<v Speaker 1>were getting tents and I was getting seventh orrades, that

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<v Speaker 1>was only a thirty percent at most difference, I felt

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<v Speaker 1>like it could beat them by in the human vote.

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<v Speaker 1>The human vote what people don't realize, and even when

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<v Speaker 1>people on their show, is actually worth more than the

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<v Speaker 1>judges vote. Even though it's fifty, there's a ceiling on

0:13:46.240 --> 0:13:48.839
<v Speaker 1>the judges vote, there is no ceiling on the fan vote.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no top line you can get on the fan vote.

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<v Speaker 1>You can win the fan vote, you can win it

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<v Speaker 1>by to the second place person. There are no rules.

0:13:57.760 --> 0:14:00.480
<v Speaker 1>You may not probably won't, but there are no rules

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<v Speaker 1>on the ceiling of the fan vote. So that's how

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<v Speaker 1>I approached it. I knew that people would not vote

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<v Speaker 1>for me if I was mailing it and not trying hard.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was working as hard as I could to

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<v Speaker 1>get better, and I did get better. But I also

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<v Speaker 1>knew I was playing a different game than everybody else.

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<v Speaker 1>As they were all playing checkers, I was playing chess.

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<v Speaker 1>We were all trying to dance as good as we could,

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<v Speaker 1>but I knew that there are years and years of

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<v Speaker 1>experience I couldn't catch up with, But my years and

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<v Speaker 1>years of experience of being a performer and playing two

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<v Speaker 1>people and four people and surviving based on that they

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't catch up with. And so while they were all

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<v Speaker 1>hyper focused on dance, I was working as hard as

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<v Speaker 1>I could on dance. But you're crazy if you don't

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<v Speaker 1>think I was going what can I do? The people

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<v Speaker 1>will really be entertained by what can I do to

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<v Speaker 1>people will love? And every week it was work, work, work, work,

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<v Speaker 1>and trying to figure out what would be super entertaining

0:14:52.840 --> 0:14:54.320
<v Speaker 1>now never in the dance, and there are things in

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<v Speaker 1>the dance. I couldn't control my mouth being open the

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<v Speaker 1>whole time, could control it, tried so hard to keep

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<v Speaker 1>my mouth shut. I think that's just what I did

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<v Speaker 1>when I was happy and I was moving around so

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<v Speaker 1>um week one, if I'm to go back and and

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<v Speaker 1>look at some of the things I didn't plan to

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<v Speaker 1>fall down obviously, I had never done that day. I

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't all red. We were doing a jive to Travis

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<v Speaker 1>Trip t r o U b l E. And they

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<v Speaker 1>gave me a super country song because I love country

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<v Speaker 1>music obviously, and I was like, okay, cool, and I

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<v Speaker 1>love that song. It's nineties countries. It's right in my wheelhouse.

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<v Speaker 1>And so we uh we did that. I never nailed

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<v Speaker 1>the dance in practice, never, not one time. And we

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<v Speaker 1>got on the show, and the best I ever did

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<v Speaker 1>it was that first show. I remember the music going

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<v Speaker 1>Brian and I was like, oh my god, here we go.

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<v Speaker 1>And I remember finishing it and going I can't believe

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<v Speaker 1>I just did an episode Dancing with the Stars and

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't my best ever, and I started celebrating, probably

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<v Speaker 1>two beats too early, and Charnett was still bent over backward,

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<v Speaker 1>and so she was bent over back where I started

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<v Speaker 1>pumping my fist. It's probably a little too early. So

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<v Speaker 1>finally she's able to get back up, and I run

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<v Speaker 1>into the across the floor. And by the way, there

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<v Speaker 1>were no rules for me. In my head, if you

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<v Speaker 1>don't know the rules, there are no rules. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know the rules of that show as far as where

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<v Speaker 1>you could go and couldn't go, so no one told

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<v Speaker 1>me what I couldn't do. So I was like, this whole,

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<v Speaker 1>this whole like ballroom, it's kind of my canvas. I

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<v Speaker 1>can do whatever I want. And I felt like that,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way the whole show because that no one

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<v Speaker 1>ever came to me said stopped. So I took off

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<v Speaker 1>running through the middle of the floor and I was

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<v Speaker 1>like oh, and then I um was jumping around and

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<v Speaker 1>I fell and hurt my shoulder. My shoulder still hurts today.

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<v Speaker 1>I had to stop acting like it was hurt because

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<v Speaker 1>I did not want it to be a storyline on

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<v Speaker 1>the show. Still hurts today. And so I hurt my shoulder.

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<v Speaker 1>But we went over and we got our scores and

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<v Speaker 1>I think we got all sevens from the first show.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know you don't have to look it up,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think it was like all sevens. But they

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<v Speaker 1>were very complimentary, and the bit that Eddie and I

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<v Speaker 1>do on our morning shows from that, whenever they would

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<v Speaker 1>just say Bobby Jay into the world, the world's a

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<v Speaker 1>better place. You just killed all diseases. What do your

0:17:03.680 --> 0:17:06.880
<v Speaker 1>dance two, I'll be like, oh, becauldn't think they're getting

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<v Speaker 1>big scores, and they wouldn't. Um, So I go out

0:17:10.760 --> 0:17:13.040
<v Speaker 1>and everyone was like, wow, I was crazy. No one's

0:17:13.080 --> 0:17:15.400
<v Speaker 1>ever reacted like that after a dance. No one ever

0:17:15.440 --> 0:17:17.399
<v Speaker 1>came to me and said, don't do that. I think

0:17:17.440 --> 0:17:18.800
<v Speaker 1>people watch the show and they go, oh, we can

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<v Speaker 1>only act a certain way because of ways we've ever

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<v Speaker 1>seen on the show. I was the opposite. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna be exactly how I want to be until

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<v Speaker 1>they tell me not to be. So no one said

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<v Speaker 1>anything about it. So we're go into week two and

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<v Speaker 1>I believe week two was the and I'm not going

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<v Speaker 1>to go through every week, but um, We're going to

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<v Speaker 1>week two and I believe week two is the foxtrot

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<v Speaker 1>where I end up flossing at the end of the dance.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the other Week two, a week three. But we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to the fox Trot and they have me at

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the show. And this is when people,

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<v Speaker 1>the other dancers start to whisper their conspiracy theories of oh,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're at the end of the show, that means

0:17:54.240 --> 0:17:56.240
<v Speaker 1>they're putting you at the end, because they went everybody

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<v Speaker 1>to hang around. I didn't know whether to believe them

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<v Speaker 1>or not. I was knew it was only a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of exam but I was like, oh, I started to

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<v Speaker 1>get into my head a little bit. And our dance

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<v Speaker 1>was super slow, and it was a foxtrot. It was

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<v Speaker 1>New York Week and it was and if I'm actually

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<v Speaker 1>inaccurate in these weeks, Mike, you can tell me. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's New York Week, and that that was my We

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<v Speaker 1>had New York, New York from Frank Frank Sinatra and

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<v Speaker 1>them out and we're doing the foxtrot and it's a

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<v Speaker 1>slow dance and we're last, and I'm thinking of myself

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<v Speaker 1>as much as I've learned it and as much as

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<v Speaker 1>Sharna has been working to teach me these little things

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<v Speaker 1>that I felt like a slow dance was kind of

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<v Speaker 1>boring for the last dance, which by the way, sacriligious

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<v Speaker 1>to say to a dancer, and I said that one

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<v Speaker 1>star she was. I don't think she liked that I said,

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<v Speaker 1>because it was slow, it was boring, and I was

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<v Speaker 1>like at the end, I wanted a big number. And

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<v Speaker 1>so about halfway through the dance, I go, well, I

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<v Speaker 1>haven't really nailed this dance. I've done pretty good, and

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<v Speaker 1>I got to give people something to remember, because you

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<v Speaker 1>remember they were still thirteen people, aren't they twelve people left?

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<v Speaker 1>And so as Sharna sat down at the very end

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<v Speaker 1>of the dance, I lost and I was running backward

0:19:03.400 --> 0:19:04.359
<v Speaker 1>when I did it, and it was a tough I

0:19:04.400 --> 0:19:06.480
<v Speaker 1>gotta tell you. One of my most athletic moves of

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<v Speaker 1>the whole dance season was flossing, running backward and coming

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<v Speaker 1>to a stop right there. And so I flost and

0:19:12.760 --> 0:19:14.280
<v Speaker 1>we got off. We got our scores and they were like,

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<v Speaker 1>what just happened? And Charlotte was so mad at me,

0:19:18.680 --> 0:19:20.040
<v Speaker 1>and we had only known each other three or four

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<v Speaker 1>weeks at this point, and me, I'm thinking, I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>trying to stay memorable. I did the whole dance as

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<v Speaker 1>best I could. This was a game. It was a

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<v Speaker 1>TV show, and it was a game that me and

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<v Speaker 1>my listeners were trying to win together. And so we

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<v Speaker 1>got our scores and then she was off and she

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<v Speaker 1>didn't talk. She wouldn't talk to me. She was so

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<v Speaker 1>pissed and we everybody left and I was like, well, great,

0:19:44.119 --> 0:19:45.880
<v Speaker 1>we're never gonna talk again because she was toos mad

0:19:46.680 --> 0:19:52.560
<v Speaker 1>and not you know, I mean, just just justified. Sure.

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<v Speaker 1>So she came over and I was like, hey listen.

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<v Speaker 1>We both were like hey listen. We both had something

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<v Speaker 1>to say, and she was like, this is my craft

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like completely respect that, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>do you want to know my craft? That I said,

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<v Speaker 1>people are gonna remember us, and she was like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a good moment for us because we kind of

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<v Speaker 1>went it kind of click for both of us that

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<v Speaker 1>we were both in it together, we're both working as

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<v Speaker 1>hard as we could, and that we kind of had

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<v Speaker 1>to trust each other. I had to trust her at

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<v Speaker 1>times when I was like, oh, this does not feel

0:20:24.320 --> 0:20:26.320
<v Speaker 1>comfortable with the dance part. She had to trust me

0:20:26.320 --> 0:20:28.280
<v Speaker 1>when I was like, just go along with it. And

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<v Speaker 1>I also promised her then there will be no more

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<v Speaker 1>super surprises like that. I was like, I promise you

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<v Speaker 1>anything I do that's like related, I'll let you know.

0:20:34.880 --> 0:20:36.680
<v Speaker 1>I never did anything during a dance again, the whole

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<v Speaker 1>the whole season. But so again, I remember telling my like,

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<v Speaker 1>my my people, my team, if I can get through

0:20:45.560 --> 0:20:47.760
<v Speaker 1>the first two or three weeks, I can win this show.

0:20:48.720 --> 0:20:51.800
<v Speaker 1>And they were like, okay, okay, can't dance. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I just feel like I'm gonna put in enough work

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<v Speaker 1>to get good enough to compete in the dancing, but

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<v Speaker 1>to win, because in my mind it was already split

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<v Speaker 1>it in the two halves. All I need to do

0:21:02.480 --> 0:21:05.520
<v Speaker 1>is compete in the judges half and dominate the fan

0:21:05.640 --> 0:21:07.639
<v Speaker 1>vote half. Because I had the people. They did not

0:21:07.720 --> 0:21:10.639
<v Speaker 1>see us coming, as far as they didn't see the

0:21:10.680 --> 0:21:13.680
<v Speaker 1>support that we bring that I bring with my people.

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<v Speaker 1>They had no idea and we show up and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>on the finals or four of us. What's funny is

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<v Speaker 1>everybody had their own fan base. I had the least

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<v Speaker 1>amount of Instagram followers in the final four. Everybody else

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<v Speaker 1>had over a million Instagram followers, and people be like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>you brought your fans, Yeah, so did everybody else. Alexis

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<v Speaker 1>has like twelve million Instagram followers. You know, my law

0:21:33.320 --> 0:21:36.040
<v Speaker 1>has a huge Disney following of Honest from Harry Potter.

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<v Speaker 1>They all had a huge, way bigger social media numbers

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<v Speaker 1>than I did. My my What I'm like lucky to

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<v Speaker 1>have is people that I get to talk to and

0:21:45.400 --> 0:21:47.160
<v Speaker 1>we feel like we're friends and we know each other,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's how to use those people. Because my people

0:21:52.880 --> 0:21:55.320
<v Speaker 1>came to bat for me so hard. I mean, I

0:21:55.359 --> 0:21:58.240
<v Speaker 1>was surprised I was never in Jeopardy the whole year.

0:21:59.119 --> 0:22:00.760
<v Speaker 1>There are only two people that weren't in Jeopardy the

0:22:00.800 --> 0:22:04.800
<v Speaker 1>whole time, which were me and Milo, and until he

0:22:04.880 --> 0:22:07.760
<v Speaker 1>was finished second at the end, he was we were both.

0:22:07.760 --> 0:22:10.840
<v Speaker 1>Also I started to realize, Okay, I must be getting

0:22:10.840 --> 0:22:13.480
<v Speaker 1>a pretty good vote because heat mile is really good

0:22:13.480 --> 0:22:15.680
<v Speaker 1>and getting nines and tens. I also think it hurts

0:22:15.720 --> 0:22:18.080
<v Speaker 1>you early if you're so good, because you have nowhere

0:22:18.119 --> 0:22:20.600
<v Speaker 1>to go. People just expected out of you. And if

0:22:20.640 --> 0:22:23.520
<v Speaker 1>you get nine and tens early, and then you get

0:22:23.600 --> 0:22:26.960
<v Speaker 1>nine and tens again, they're like, yeah, they expected it. Good,

0:22:27.040 --> 0:22:29.960
<v Speaker 1>good for you, we knew you were good. I also

0:22:30.040 --> 0:22:32.080
<v Speaker 1>think that if you get really high scores and you're good,

0:22:32.080 --> 0:22:33.760
<v Speaker 1>people think, oh, they're good, they don't need the votes.

0:22:34.359 --> 0:22:38.280
<v Speaker 1>I'll vote with somebody who needs it. So there's something

0:22:38.280 --> 0:22:41.600
<v Speaker 1>to say for you know, somebody that's rolling in with

0:22:41.680 --> 0:22:45.160
<v Speaker 1>sevens and eights, because people will go, oh, I'm gonna

0:22:45.200 --> 0:22:48.040
<v Speaker 1>give them some votes because they need it, which really, again,

0:22:49.080 --> 0:22:52.600
<v Speaker 1>the fan vote is the biggest part of the show.

0:22:53.240 --> 0:22:56.560
<v Speaker 1>You have to be in striking distance with the judges vote,

0:22:56.920 --> 0:22:58.640
<v Speaker 1>but if you can clean up on the fan vote

0:22:58.640 --> 0:23:00.600
<v Speaker 1>and beating, Like for me, I was such a normal

0:23:00.680 --> 0:23:03.680
<v Speaker 1>human on that show because I'm just not cool. There's

0:23:03.720 --> 0:23:08.000
<v Speaker 1>no part of me that's slick or polished. And about

0:23:08.000 --> 0:23:10.240
<v Speaker 1>week four is when I go when I go, Okay,

0:23:10.320 --> 0:23:13.720
<v Speaker 1>I really can win this thing if I just play

0:23:13.800 --> 0:23:15.600
<v Speaker 1>this work as hard as I can on the dance,

0:23:15.680 --> 0:23:17.240
<v Speaker 1>and I would get so pissed when I wouldn't get

0:23:17.760 --> 0:23:20.240
<v Speaker 1>scores that I thought we're good, Like we did the

0:23:20.280 --> 0:23:22.680
<v Speaker 1>Halloween dance and I think we got like seven eight

0:23:22.720 --> 0:23:27.040
<v Speaker 1>seven or something. I'm not sure of the score. Maybe

0:23:27.240 --> 0:23:31.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Whatever was I was visibly upset on screen.

0:23:32.040 --> 0:23:34.760
<v Speaker 1>I watched it back. I was visibly upset. What I

0:23:34.760 --> 0:23:37.960
<v Speaker 1>get eight seven seven? Okay? I was upset because I

0:23:38.000 --> 0:23:39.359
<v Speaker 1>was like, that's the best I could have danced, and

0:23:39.400 --> 0:23:41.560
<v Speaker 1>I still only got eight seven seven. The only thing

0:23:41.560 --> 0:23:44.720
<v Speaker 1>that we see on that show, the only data that

0:23:44.840 --> 0:23:49.160
<v Speaker 1>we have to justify our week, was so judge those

0:23:49.240 --> 0:23:51.760
<v Speaker 1>judges scores, because they never share us the votes. They

0:23:51.800 --> 0:23:54.400
<v Speaker 1>never tipped me off one bit that I was gonna

0:23:54.440 --> 0:23:57.200
<v Speaker 1>win the show, that I was crushing votes. They never

0:23:57.200 --> 0:23:59.840
<v Speaker 1>said anything to me about that. And so you go

0:24:00.040 --> 0:24:02.960
<v Speaker 1>and the only thing that you can rely on is

0:24:03.000 --> 0:24:05.960
<v Speaker 1>those judges scores as being part of the score. Now,

0:24:05.960 --> 0:24:08.359
<v Speaker 1>I'm still playing the hidden secret vote game. I was

0:24:08.400 --> 0:24:11.199
<v Speaker 1>just counting on and hoping that people would vote for me,

0:24:11.960 --> 0:24:14.600
<v Speaker 1>and I was never in Jeopardy. So I started to go, Okay,

0:24:14.960 --> 0:24:16.399
<v Speaker 1>well what can I do this week. I'm gonna dance

0:24:16.400 --> 0:24:21.320
<v Speaker 1>all week. I'm gonna train hard, and then I would

0:24:21.359 --> 0:24:22.720
<v Speaker 1>do a little something. I would say a little something.

0:24:22.760 --> 0:24:25.159
<v Speaker 1>I would I would be funny. I talked to the

0:24:25.240 --> 0:24:27.040
<v Speaker 1>judges in a weird way. I'd go up to the

0:24:27.080 --> 0:24:30.359
<v Speaker 1>judges table, things that were just different that people that

0:24:30.440 --> 0:24:32.360
<v Speaker 1>listen to the show or listen to podcast already knew

0:24:32.359 --> 0:24:33.600
<v Speaker 1>that I was gonna do. But it was people that

0:24:34.119 --> 0:24:36.199
<v Speaker 1>watch the show and only watch the show. They'd be

0:24:36.200 --> 0:24:38.280
<v Speaker 1>like whoa, you're this guy? Because I think I was

0:24:38.320 --> 0:24:40.240
<v Speaker 1>just brought on to be the kind of funny guy

0:24:40.240 --> 0:24:42.919
<v Speaker 1>that would last a few weeks and then slowly be

0:24:42.960 --> 0:24:46.040
<v Speaker 1>shipped off to see I think because well I never danced.

0:24:47.040 --> 0:24:49.639
<v Speaker 1>It wasn't like people think of country music and go

0:24:50.480 --> 0:24:53.720
<v Speaker 1>let's get some because we're our own little world and

0:24:53.760 --> 0:24:55.600
<v Speaker 1>everybody kind of counts us out or doesn't. They don't

0:24:55.640 --> 0:24:59.640
<v Speaker 1>think about us at all. And so Week four, so

0:25:00.040 --> 0:25:01.320
<v Speaker 1>was one part where we're doing a magic trick. I

0:25:01.320 --> 0:25:02.919
<v Speaker 1>think it's a Week two. It was Las Vegas night.

0:25:02.960 --> 0:25:05.000
<v Speaker 1>Our magic trick fell apart behind us as we were

0:25:05.040 --> 0:25:07.720
<v Speaker 1>doing it. We couldn't get around it. Was the thing

0:25:07.720 --> 0:25:10.040
<v Speaker 1>where we cut a girl in half and we have

0:25:10.119 --> 0:25:12.160
<v Speaker 1>to dance around it. We couldn't get the thing apart.

0:25:12.320 --> 0:25:15.439
<v Speaker 1>Somebody handed somebody a wrong blade. We couldn't split the

0:25:16.240 --> 0:25:18.040
<v Speaker 1>uh what do you call it? Thinking she was in

0:25:19.040 --> 0:25:20.320
<v Speaker 1>she gets in and you cut her in half whatever

0:25:20.440 --> 0:25:22.720
<v Speaker 1>that things in that she's in. It was like a casket.

0:25:23.880 --> 0:25:25.639
<v Speaker 1>We couldn't cut it in half. So we had to

0:25:25.760 --> 0:25:27.840
<v Speaker 1>dance around it, and we were off like by three

0:25:27.960 --> 0:25:30.239
<v Speaker 1>or four beats. We danced the whole song off by

0:25:30.280 --> 0:25:31.960
<v Speaker 1>a few beats because we would just like just keep going,

0:25:32.600 --> 0:25:35.720
<v Speaker 1>just keep going, act like It's like sometimes if you

0:25:35.760 --> 0:25:37.399
<v Speaker 1>just act like supposed to be there, people believe you're

0:25:37.400 --> 0:25:39.000
<v Speaker 1>supposed to be there. It happens a lot of times

0:25:39.000 --> 0:25:43.960
<v Speaker 1>at concerts. Is to be like yeah, yeah, yeah, and um,

0:25:44.080 --> 0:25:46.600
<v Speaker 1>we're just charms, like just go. And she would talk

0:25:46.600 --> 0:25:48.520
<v Speaker 1>to me a lot of times through her teeth, so

0:25:48.560 --> 0:25:51.960
<v Speaker 1>she would smile real big right now she had talk

0:25:52.160 --> 0:25:55.280
<v Speaker 1>with her like an eventuloquist, and at times it was wonderful.

0:25:55.359 --> 0:25:57.199
<v Speaker 1>During a dance at a time she would you know,

0:25:58.280 --> 0:26:03.879
<v Speaker 1>like scold me. So we we do that dance and

0:26:03.920 --> 0:26:06.480
<v Speaker 1>we get through, and that's about when I go, Okay,

0:26:07.000 --> 0:26:09.320
<v Speaker 1>I think we can do this. Um. Still, no one

0:26:09.359 --> 0:26:10.920
<v Speaker 1>saw us coming, but they kept putting me at the

0:26:11.000 --> 0:26:14.679
<v Speaker 1>end of these shows. Every week I was either last

0:26:14.880 --> 0:26:17.479
<v Speaker 1>or next to last, and then I will be first.

0:26:17.960 --> 0:26:20.240
<v Speaker 1>And then I realized, you know, they start the show

0:26:20.280 --> 0:26:21.800
<v Speaker 1>off with a bang or they end the show with

0:26:21.840 --> 0:26:25.600
<v Speaker 1>the bang. Um, And so I think, if I were

0:26:25.640 --> 0:26:27.480
<v Speaker 1>talking to people who were just starting the show, now

0:26:28.240 --> 0:26:29.880
<v Speaker 1>you have to dance, and you have to get better,

0:26:29.960 --> 0:26:32.200
<v Speaker 1>because God knows, I tried so hard to get better,

0:26:32.240 --> 0:26:35.000
<v Speaker 1>and I did get better. You know, I trained, I did,

0:26:35.119 --> 0:26:37.119
<v Speaker 1>I looked at all my schedule over six hundred hours

0:26:37.480 --> 0:26:42.760
<v Speaker 1>in three months, and so but you have to really

0:26:42.800 --> 0:26:46.040
<v Speaker 1>do something extra because you can. There's a ceiling with

0:26:46.080 --> 0:26:48.880
<v Speaker 1>the judge's votes, and that's in the people. They get

0:26:48.920 --> 0:26:52.080
<v Speaker 1>mad at the showy like, oh, I'm never watching it again.

0:26:52.280 --> 0:26:54.719
<v Speaker 1>You knew the rules before the show started. You just

0:26:54.720 --> 0:26:57.840
<v Speaker 1>don't like how the rules played out. And I was

0:26:57.960 --> 0:27:01.040
<v Speaker 1>very different on this show. I've been very different with

0:27:01.080 --> 0:27:04.080
<v Speaker 1>everything I've ever done anytime anything happens to me. But

0:27:04.080 --> 0:27:06.760
<v Speaker 1>people are upset because I go into it a bit different.

0:27:07.320 --> 0:27:09.280
<v Speaker 1>But you knew the rules of the show. I get

0:27:09.320 --> 0:27:11.840
<v Speaker 1>so many like Instagram messages like worse Dancing with the

0:27:11.840 --> 0:27:15.200
<v Speaker 1>Stars ever change the rules now? You love the rules

0:27:15.240 --> 0:27:17.440
<v Speaker 1>before the show started. You can't be mad now because

0:27:17.440 --> 0:27:19.240
<v Speaker 1>the rules for once didn't go the way you liked

0:27:19.280 --> 0:27:22.680
<v Speaker 1>it to go. So I would tell someone if you're

0:27:22.720 --> 0:27:25.200
<v Speaker 1>listening to this now and you're gonna go do the show,

0:27:25.800 --> 0:27:27.760
<v Speaker 1>or if you're just a fan of the show, that

0:27:27.840 --> 0:27:32.240
<v Speaker 1>the people matter way more than the structure. That's just

0:27:32.280 --> 0:27:34.720
<v Speaker 1>in general period, not just Dancing with the Stars, but

0:27:34.760 --> 0:27:37.240
<v Speaker 1>in life, like people are so much more important than

0:27:37.480 --> 0:27:45.439
<v Speaker 1>some set of rules to die and so judges people.

0:27:46.960 --> 0:27:48.440
<v Speaker 1>That's where I would put it if I were making

0:27:48.440 --> 0:27:50.679
<v Speaker 1>my own scale of what's important and what's not. If

0:27:50.720 --> 0:27:52.560
<v Speaker 1>you don't continue to get better dancing, they're gonna vote

0:27:52.560 --> 0:27:54.520
<v Speaker 1>you off. You gotta keep putting the work. But you

0:27:54.640 --> 0:27:58.080
<v Speaker 1>cannot underestimate the power of the people watching that show

0:27:58.119 --> 0:28:00.280
<v Speaker 1>and voting on that show. And you all were gonna

0:28:00.280 --> 0:28:01.359
<v Speaker 1>put in some work to vote for them. And I

0:28:01.359 --> 0:28:04.240
<v Speaker 1>think that was the demise of the really good dancers

0:28:04.240 --> 0:28:07.800
<v Speaker 1>on the show, like the Tnaches and even the Wampablos.

0:28:08.040 --> 0:28:10.000
<v Speaker 1>They were so good people didn't feel like they need

0:28:10.000 --> 0:28:14.040
<v Speaker 1>to vote for them, and then they were just strictly dance.

0:28:15.040 --> 0:28:18.040
<v Speaker 1>And there's always great dancers on the show. Always, every year,

0:28:18.080 --> 0:28:21.960
<v Speaker 1>there's fantastic dancers. People say great dancers all the time.

0:28:23.080 --> 0:28:25.920
<v Speaker 1>Most of the time, a great dancer wins the show.

0:28:26.320 --> 0:28:29.919
<v Speaker 1>But people were shocked when they went home. I went out.

0:28:29.960 --> 0:28:31.600
<v Speaker 1>I was shocked because they were so good. I thought

0:28:31.600 --> 0:28:33.760
<v Speaker 1>they both went home too early. But I wasn't shocked

0:28:33.760 --> 0:28:35.560
<v Speaker 1>they didn't win. I wouldn't have been shocked to that

0:28:35.720 --> 0:28:39.480
<v Speaker 1>one as well. But just knowing how that show works now,

0:28:39.920 --> 0:28:41.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm not shocked by it. You have to put in

0:28:41.280 --> 0:28:44.440
<v Speaker 1>the effort too, to really sell yourself. It's like running

0:28:44.440 --> 0:28:46.960
<v Speaker 1>for a political office. Like we don't just take the

0:28:46.960 --> 0:28:49.240
<v Speaker 1>person with the best resume and go, you are now

0:28:49.720 --> 0:28:51.400
<v Speaker 1>the leader of the free world? Are you are now

0:28:51.440 --> 0:28:54.040
<v Speaker 1>our senator? You take the person with the resume that

0:28:54.080 --> 0:28:58.920
<v Speaker 1>you feel comfortable with, versus do you like them? You

0:28:58.960 --> 0:29:01.440
<v Speaker 1>know your plus do you like them? And whoever has

0:29:01.480 --> 0:29:03.560
<v Speaker 1>the best resume plus who you like the most, that's

0:29:03.600 --> 0:29:06.920
<v Speaker 1>who gets voted into office by the people. So, if anything,

0:29:06.920 --> 0:29:10.240
<v Speaker 1>the show is very much like that. Um, we are

0:29:11.800 --> 0:29:13.960
<v Speaker 1>what am I skipping over here? Because I don't have

0:29:13.960 --> 0:29:15.600
<v Speaker 1>any notes. I don't want to come into with any notes.

0:29:16.840 --> 0:29:24.560
<v Speaker 1>I go and where I want to go next? How

0:29:24.560 --> 0:29:27.760
<v Speaker 1>about they stick us with these partners. This is the

0:29:27.760 --> 0:29:31.120
<v Speaker 1>first time that I've ever said this. We have never

0:29:31.880 --> 0:29:34.920
<v Speaker 1>you don't meet the partner beforehand, right, And I've never

0:29:34.960 --> 0:29:39.000
<v Speaker 1>met Sharna beforehand. We'd never talked, We've never texted or

0:29:39.160 --> 0:29:46.520
<v Speaker 1>been on social media. And so, um, I I am

0:29:46.560 --> 0:29:48.480
<v Speaker 1>in this dance studio on Nashville and she comes in

0:29:48.520 --> 0:29:49.760
<v Speaker 1>and by the way, they have cameras on you the

0:29:49.880 --> 0:29:52.920
<v Speaker 1>entire time. Something I didn't realize was that every practice

0:29:54.120 --> 0:29:57.080
<v Speaker 1>every practice you have to be miked up with the

0:29:57.120 --> 0:30:00.040
<v Speaker 1>camera on you at all times. So there's six of

0:30:00.120 --> 0:30:02.080
<v Speaker 1>hours of footage of me just getting mad at myself

0:30:02.400 --> 0:30:05.200
<v Speaker 1>in a in a practice room, being like and with

0:30:05.360 --> 0:30:08.160
<v Speaker 1>the producers would they wouldn't get mad at me because

0:30:08.160 --> 0:30:10.520
<v Speaker 1>I was Actually I'm pretty good to work with because

0:30:10.520 --> 0:30:12.400
<v Speaker 1>I know what it's like to work with someone. But

0:30:12.480 --> 0:30:13.960
<v Speaker 1>I just in the practice room where they we're trying

0:30:13.960 --> 0:30:16.360
<v Speaker 1>to get all this footage. I didn't say much because

0:30:16.360 --> 0:30:20.080
<v Speaker 1>I was so focused on trying to get these steps

0:30:20.200 --> 0:30:22.560
<v Speaker 1>right and trying to get this movement right that I

0:30:22.600 --> 0:30:25.200
<v Speaker 1>didn't ask a lot of questions. I just kind of

0:30:25.240 --> 0:30:27.360
<v Speaker 1>watched and studied and studied, and I would go home

0:30:27.400 --> 0:30:29.320
<v Speaker 1>and write notes. I would write steps down on paper.

0:30:29.640 --> 0:30:32.880
<v Speaker 1>I would do all these things that really dancers didn't

0:30:32.880 --> 0:30:34.200
<v Speaker 1>have to do because I could never just see it

0:30:34.200 --> 0:30:37.160
<v Speaker 1>and feel it. For me, it was angles and turns

0:30:37.160 --> 0:30:38.880
<v Speaker 1>and putting my foot down in the right spot, and

0:30:39.600 --> 0:30:43.480
<v Speaker 1>every dance was different. I would compare it to we

0:30:43.560 --> 0:30:45.480
<v Speaker 1>know how to speak, but we don't know how to

0:30:45.480 --> 0:30:47.520
<v Speaker 1>speak a different language, Like you can use your mouth

0:30:47.520 --> 0:30:50.040
<v Speaker 1>to make make sounds, but imagine every week you were

0:30:50.080 --> 0:30:52.760
<v Speaker 1>given a Rosetta Stone and you had to learn French. Okay,

0:30:52.800 --> 0:30:54.480
<v Speaker 1>you learn French as best you could take a test

0:30:54.480 --> 0:30:57.840
<v Speaker 1>on it. All right, new day, now start Italian. And

0:30:57.920 --> 0:31:00.240
<v Speaker 1>that is what it was like learning those dances, because

0:31:00.280 --> 0:31:01.800
<v Speaker 1>you knew how to speak and know how to walk.

0:31:02.160 --> 0:31:05.160
<v Speaker 1>I knew how to talk and how to have rhythm

0:31:05.200 --> 0:31:08.680
<v Speaker 1>a bit, but all the dances were so different. Sometimes

0:31:08.680 --> 0:31:10.320
<v Speaker 1>you put your heel down first, and the dances sometimes

0:31:10.360 --> 0:31:13.840
<v Speaker 1>you count one to three, four or five, six, seven, eight.

0:31:13.920 --> 0:31:16.880
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes you count one to three, one to three. All

0:31:16.920 --> 0:31:20.480
<v Speaker 1>the counts were Everything was different, and some are slow

0:31:20.560 --> 0:31:24.920
<v Speaker 1>somewhere fast. Um. So every week it was something different,

0:31:24.960 --> 0:31:29.720
<v Speaker 1>and every the first day after the show it was

0:31:29.760 --> 0:31:32.400
<v Speaker 1>the hardest because you were learning something brand new and

0:31:32.400 --> 0:31:35.440
<v Speaker 1>you were completely clueless. And it was the most frustrating

0:31:35.520 --> 0:31:38.000
<v Speaker 1>day too. Because I was completely good. I would go

0:31:38.040 --> 0:31:41.520
<v Speaker 1>into it. I be like, okay, today's the Vietnamese Viame,

0:31:42.440 --> 0:31:48.880
<v Speaker 1>Viennes Viennese waltz would be like sounds easy enough. Um.

0:31:48.920 --> 0:31:51.200
<v Speaker 1>It was completely different than the jive or the fox

0:31:51.240 --> 0:31:54.160
<v Speaker 1>trot or the and sometimes you could take you know,

0:31:54.240 --> 0:31:55.880
<v Speaker 1>little parts of other dances, but I would have to

0:31:55.960 --> 0:31:58.960
<v Speaker 1>name the one funny things because for me, the Chase

0:31:59.480 --> 0:32:02.960
<v Speaker 1>didn't mean anything. I needed to call it the gummy Bear.

0:32:03.120 --> 0:32:05.720
<v Speaker 1>You know, I'd have to like really dumb things down

0:32:05.760 --> 0:32:11.800
<v Speaker 1>for myself, and so um Sharna whenever she came to Nashville.

0:32:12.840 --> 0:32:14.720
<v Speaker 1>Because I had one goal in mine that was to

0:32:14.760 --> 0:32:16.160
<v Speaker 1>win the whole show, didn't know how I was gonna

0:32:16.160 --> 0:32:18.920
<v Speaker 1>do it. I never really felt like it was bigger

0:32:18.920 --> 0:32:20.920
<v Speaker 1>than me. But I think one of the things that

0:32:21.120 --> 0:32:24.080
<v Speaker 1>has been a guiding part of my success is that

0:32:24.120 --> 0:32:27.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm so oblivious to what's really happening that I don't

0:32:27.600 --> 0:32:31.280
<v Speaker 1>know the rules that that it doesn't putting limitations on

0:32:31.280 --> 0:32:33.920
<v Speaker 1>me because I'm just like, yeah, let's go. I'm not

0:32:34.000 --> 0:32:35.480
<v Speaker 1>scared of it. I don't really know what it was,

0:32:35.760 --> 0:32:37.320
<v Speaker 1>so I wasn't scared of it. The same thing with

0:32:37.400 --> 0:32:39.120
<v Speaker 1>radio something writing books. I know what I was doing,

0:32:39.640 --> 0:32:42.720
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how hard it really was. And because

0:32:42.720 --> 0:32:44.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't know the rules, I create my own set

0:32:44.880 --> 0:32:48.040
<v Speaker 1>of rules, and so I went into it. I was like,

0:32:48.720 --> 0:32:50.680
<v Speaker 1>I never thought I couldn't win it. I just thought

0:32:50.720 --> 0:32:52.000
<v Speaker 1>if I could get to the first few weeks, I

0:32:52.000 --> 0:32:54.920
<v Speaker 1>could figure it out. So I get this partner and

0:32:55.000 --> 0:32:57.600
<v Speaker 1>Charlatta comes to town, and I don't even know that

0:32:57.600 --> 0:32:59.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna say this on the radio show for a bit.

0:32:59.720 --> 0:33:03.560
<v Speaker 1>But Sharnatt comes to town and you know, she has

0:33:03.600 --> 0:33:08.000
<v Speaker 1>this like this crazy red hit red hair and there's

0:33:08.160 --> 0:33:13.440
<v Speaker 1>the super big presents about her and she's Australian, and

0:33:13.480 --> 0:33:15.240
<v Speaker 1>I was like, hey, listen, I want to win this,

0:33:15.440 --> 0:33:17.440
<v Speaker 1>Like I'm not just here to promote. I read nothing

0:33:17.480 --> 0:33:18.960
<v Speaker 1>to promote. A lot of people go on because you

0:33:19.000 --> 0:33:20.920
<v Speaker 1>have something to promote or you know they're doing it

0:33:20.960 --> 0:33:23.720
<v Speaker 1>for Like I just did dancing. I don't have to

0:33:23.800 --> 0:33:26.000
<v Speaker 1>dance with the Stars. I could I missed the first

0:33:26.000 --> 0:33:27.400
<v Speaker 1>part of American I don't have to do Dancing with

0:33:27.440 --> 0:33:29.360
<v Speaker 1>the Stars, So I could have been an American Idol

0:33:29.520 --> 0:33:31.600
<v Speaker 1>already as of right now, because I missed all of

0:33:31.640 --> 0:33:34.360
<v Speaker 1>the audition, the uh where they go to the dimmer cities,

0:33:35.120 --> 0:33:37.200
<v Speaker 1>and so I just wanted to do it like for fun,

0:33:37.480 --> 0:33:39.560
<v Speaker 1>but I don't want to get in anything halfway. And

0:33:39.600 --> 0:33:41.000
<v Speaker 1>I said, I really want to win this, and I

0:33:41.080 --> 0:33:43.640
<v Speaker 1>knew she wanted to win this, and so she came

0:33:43.680 --> 0:33:47.400
<v Speaker 1>over to the house and we were just kind of

0:33:47.400 --> 0:33:50.120
<v Speaker 1>getting to know each other because according to her, you

0:33:50.120 --> 0:33:52.040
<v Speaker 1>spend a lot of time, which I later found out

0:33:52.080 --> 0:33:54.360
<v Speaker 1>you spent all the time with the partner, like your

0:33:54.360 --> 0:33:58.240
<v Speaker 1>whole life is basically you and them. And we were

0:33:58.280 --> 0:33:59.960
<v Speaker 1>sitting on the couch and I was like, the people

0:34:00.160 --> 0:34:03.360
<v Speaker 1>usually like fall in love or hate each other, or

0:34:03.480 --> 0:34:05.360
<v Speaker 1>they end up having sex with each other, Like I

0:34:05.400 --> 0:34:07.080
<v Speaker 1>just really wanted to know what happened on this show,

0:34:07.120 --> 0:34:09.440
<v Speaker 1>like behind the scenes, and she was like, it's just

0:34:09.560 --> 0:34:11.480
<v Speaker 1>like anything else, a little bit of all of it.

0:34:11.640 --> 0:34:14.200
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes composte each other, sometimes they end up looking up.

0:34:14.680 --> 0:34:18.879
<v Speaker 1>And I was like, well, uh, they can't happen with us,

0:34:20.320 --> 0:34:22.879
<v Speaker 1>and she was like, if you we want to win,

0:34:23.080 --> 0:34:25.279
<v Speaker 1>it cannot happen with us. And we knew too. We

0:34:25.320 --> 0:34:26.759
<v Speaker 1>felt like they had put us together because we were

0:34:26.960 --> 0:34:29.880
<v Speaker 1>two single people. And so I remember sitting at my

0:34:29.880 --> 0:34:34.120
<v Speaker 1>house going, Okay, there's I'm not I'm not gonna flirt

0:34:34.200 --> 0:34:37.040
<v Speaker 1>with you. We're not gonna date, I'm not gonna fall

0:34:37.040 --> 0:34:39.319
<v Speaker 1>in love with you. And she was the same way.

0:34:39.360 --> 0:34:42.440
<v Speaker 1>It was like, we're here to win, and if anything

0:34:42.680 --> 0:34:47.319
<v Speaker 1>romantic happens, if it would have happened with us, it

0:34:47.400 --> 0:34:50.319
<v Speaker 1>would have been toxic to what we were trying to do,

0:34:50.880 --> 0:34:53.080
<v Speaker 1>because then there's another layer that you have to poke through.

0:34:54.440 --> 0:34:56.480
<v Speaker 1>And we didn't want that layer. We both were just

0:34:56.600 --> 0:34:59.160
<v Speaker 1>and the thing that I and listen, I'll tell you

0:34:59.239 --> 0:35:01.200
<v Speaker 1>later on. We and I fought a lot because you

0:35:01.239 --> 0:35:03.279
<v Speaker 1>just are not with someone that long or not fight.

0:35:03.280 --> 0:35:05.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean, think about your husband and wife. You're with

0:35:05.239 --> 0:35:08.799
<v Speaker 1>them all time, you're gonna fight sometimes. But we had

0:35:08.840 --> 0:35:12.160
<v Speaker 1>decided from the first time that she was here that

0:35:12.239 --> 0:35:14.040
<v Speaker 1>it just wasn't gonna happen. And I told her I'm

0:35:14.040 --> 0:35:15.120
<v Speaker 1>not fall in love with you. I'm fall in love

0:35:15.120 --> 0:35:18.920
<v Speaker 1>with anybody good luck, how about that? And I think

0:35:18.920 --> 0:35:20.640
<v Speaker 1>she thought I was kind of kidding at first, and

0:35:20.640 --> 0:35:23.400
<v Speaker 1>I was like, no, it's just not going to happen.

0:35:24.440 --> 0:35:27.239
<v Speaker 1>And so and listen, she was down with it. Two

0:35:27.239 --> 0:35:29.160
<v Speaker 1>The first time she met me, what am I? I'm like, freaking,

0:35:29.160 --> 0:35:31.759
<v Speaker 1>how do you duty? You know? Nobody sees me the

0:35:31.760 --> 0:35:34.359
<v Speaker 1>first time and falls in love ever, no one's like, oh,

0:35:34.440 --> 0:35:37.160
<v Speaker 1>I can't wait to see you know, how do you doty?

0:35:37.320 --> 0:35:40.919
<v Speaker 1>Or uh, what was it guy toy story that cowboy? Yeah,

0:35:40.960 --> 0:35:43.920
<v Speaker 1>I can't wait to see Woody naked? Yeah that So

0:35:44.080 --> 0:35:46.520
<v Speaker 1>that so she wasn't trust me when I said she

0:35:46.560 --> 0:35:48.920
<v Speaker 1>wasn't trying to get in my pants either, right, And

0:35:49.040 --> 0:35:52.640
<v Speaker 1>so we had decided early, early, early, it was never

0:35:52.680 --> 0:35:54.440
<v Speaker 1>a thing we were It was not going to be

0:35:54.480 --> 0:35:57.040
<v Speaker 1>a thing whatsoever, because we were both there to win

0:35:57.160 --> 0:36:00.320
<v Speaker 1>and to work and think about, so there's never anything manic.

0:36:01.239 --> 0:36:09.399
<v Speaker 1>And I went out and I UM. At the same time, ironically,

0:36:10.280 --> 0:36:12.960
<v Speaker 1>I had started to go on some dates with someone

0:36:13.239 --> 0:36:16.000
<v Speaker 1>and it wasn't her, and I wanted to talk about

0:36:16.000 --> 0:36:17.680
<v Speaker 1>it on my radio show that I was actually because

0:36:17.680 --> 0:36:19.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't want people feel like I was always just

0:36:19.200 --> 0:36:21.799
<v Speaker 1>sitting at home alone. I started to go out with someone,

0:36:21.800 --> 0:36:25.000
<v Speaker 1>just just a little bit, nothing serious, and it was

0:36:25.080 --> 0:36:27.919
<v Speaker 1>right time when it started, so everyone was just like, oh,

0:36:27.960 --> 0:36:32.360
<v Speaker 1>it's Sharna. But I tried to give people little clues

0:36:32.600 --> 0:36:35.759
<v Speaker 1>that would really know me and know the show to

0:36:35.840 --> 0:36:38.840
<v Speaker 1>know that it wasn't her. For example, I said, I

0:36:38.840 --> 0:36:40.399
<v Speaker 1>don't want to say who it is, but where First

0:36:40.400 --> 0:36:42.000
<v Speaker 1>of all, she wasn't my girlfriend. By the way, we're

0:36:42.040 --> 0:36:46.120
<v Speaker 1>not even dating anymore. UM, I would say, I don't

0:36:46.120 --> 0:36:48.200
<v Speaker 1>want you going over to her social media and bombarding her.

0:36:48.200 --> 0:36:49.799
<v Speaker 1>At the same time, I'm giving out Sharna social media

0:36:49.840 --> 0:36:52.200
<v Speaker 1>all the time. I was like, here, it is that Sharna.

0:36:52.400 --> 0:36:56.000
<v Speaker 1>So people would know if they thought about it. Why

0:36:56.000 --> 0:36:58.799
<v Speaker 1>would I say I don't want to say her name

0:36:58.880 --> 0:37:00.440
<v Speaker 1>or who it is because I wouldn't want of bombarding

0:37:00.480 --> 0:37:02.600
<v Speaker 1>her social media whenever I'm giving out sharinga social media

0:37:02.640 --> 0:37:05.080
<v Speaker 1>the whole time. So and a lot of people picked

0:37:05.160 --> 0:37:08.120
<v Speaker 1>up on that. Um. And also because she wasn't my girlfriend,

0:37:08.800 --> 0:37:09.880
<v Speaker 1>there was no need for her to be in the

0:37:09.880 --> 0:37:13.040
<v Speaker 1>public eye. And most people you date, it doesn't work out.

0:37:13.080 --> 0:37:14.440
<v Speaker 1>And the only reason I was even talking about it

0:37:14.440 --> 0:37:17.200
<v Speaker 1>was because I wanted my listeners to kind of know

0:37:17.239 --> 0:37:18.480
<v Speaker 1>what was happening. And by the way, the time, it

0:37:18.520 --> 0:37:21.160
<v Speaker 1>was terrible for me to date somebody. UM. But it

0:37:21.200 --> 0:37:24.319
<v Speaker 1>was never as never Sharna. And it's the first time

0:37:24.400 --> 0:37:27.239
<v Speaker 1>right now I've ever said that there was never Sharna

0:37:27.520 --> 0:37:30.600
<v Speaker 1>um and it's actually it's nobody now and it was

0:37:30.600 --> 0:37:33.920
<v Speaker 1>never anything even serious. Um, Mike knows who. Everybody knows

0:37:33.920 --> 0:37:39.759
<v Speaker 1>who it was. But yeah, it's not anymore. Did you

0:37:39.800 --> 0:37:44.440
<v Speaker 1>know it wasn't anymore? I think so. Yeah. So the

0:37:44.480 --> 0:37:47.200
<v Speaker 1>thing about Sharna was we kind of had this relationship

0:37:47.239 --> 0:37:49.600
<v Speaker 1>early that we were we were there to work and

0:37:49.680 --> 0:37:52.319
<v Speaker 1>what I respected and still respect the most about her

0:37:52.360 --> 0:37:55.640
<v Speaker 1>and she's hardcore when it comes to work, and so

0:37:55.760 --> 0:37:58.920
<v Speaker 1>am I. You may be more talented than me. You

0:37:58.960 --> 0:38:01.600
<v Speaker 1>were not going to out work me. That's just not

0:38:01.840 --> 0:38:05.279
<v Speaker 1>a thing. You will not outwork me. I'll to my

0:38:05.320 --> 0:38:09.200
<v Speaker 1>toes bleed. So we were just dancing, and at times

0:38:09.400 --> 0:38:12.800
<v Speaker 1>she was so frustrated with me because I just couldn't

0:38:13.080 --> 0:38:16.000
<v Speaker 1>get it. I didn't know I left all right. I

0:38:16.040 --> 0:38:23.160
<v Speaker 1>mean it was like a toddler, and so we we struggled.

0:38:23.719 --> 0:38:28.279
<v Speaker 1>We struggled hard, and I think she would at times

0:38:28.280 --> 0:38:31.120
<v Speaker 1>would get frustrated with herself that she couldn't figure out

0:38:31.160 --> 0:38:33.800
<v Speaker 1>how to teach me because I was such a novice.

0:38:34.120 --> 0:38:35.799
<v Speaker 1>Now people would go like, just have fun. You're out

0:38:35.800 --> 0:38:36.880
<v Speaker 1>of your mind. If you think you just go and

0:38:36.920 --> 0:38:38.880
<v Speaker 1>have fun, You're crazy. Just having funds going out there

0:38:38.920 --> 0:38:40.759
<v Speaker 1>and just shaking your hips and thrust in the air.

0:38:41.280 --> 0:38:43.279
<v Speaker 1>You had your with a professional athlete trying to do

0:38:43.280 --> 0:38:46.240
<v Speaker 1>what a professional athlete does, being judged by other people

0:38:46.239 --> 0:38:48.320
<v Speaker 1>who have been professional at their job in front of

0:38:48.320 --> 0:38:52.440
<v Speaker 1>eight million people. I've never been so nervous then right

0:38:52.480 --> 0:38:55.440
<v Speaker 1>before that show starts, and even more nervous before my

0:38:55.520 --> 0:38:58.239
<v Speaker 1>dance starts, because you're in a room. I think Tom

0:38:58.280 --> 0:39:01.200
<v Speaker 1>Bergeron said it during like the week three, there are

0:39:01.200 --> 0:39:03.839
<v Speaker 1>more people in that ballroom than in my hometown growing up,

0:39:04.480 --> 0:39:07.160
<v Speaker 1>and so it's just people and like three layers just

0:39:07.280 --> 0:39:11.120
<v Speaker 1>looking at you dancing, and their cameras everywhere. But there

0:39:11.160 --> 0:39:14.799
<v Speaker 1>were some really kind people on that show, Like the

0:39:14.800 --> 0:39:16.160
<v Speaker 1>producers would come up to me and be like, you

0:39:16.200 --> 0:39:18.600
<v Speaker 1>gotta just hang in there, hanging there. The stage managers,

0:39:18.800 --> 0:39:20.520
<v Speaker 1>the guys that were they would be like you got it,

0:39:20.600 --> 0:39:24.319
<v Speaker 1>Like they were so encouraging, and you just wouldn't think

0:39:24.320 --> 0:39:27.000
<v Speaker 1>that people would be so caring on a show that

0:39:27.040 --> 0:39:28.719
<v Speaker 1>had been going so long. No, not all of them

0:39:28.719 --> 0:39:31.040
<v Speaker 1>had been been there for all all the time. I

0:39:31.040 --> 0:39:32.359
<v Speaker 1>think some of them been there for most of it.

0:39:33.480 --> 0:39:38.840
<v Speaker 1>Tom bergeron that Best Dude was so nice, was never

0:39:39.400 --> 0:39:42.600
<v Speaker 1>not awesome the finale, we sat and talked for twenty

0:39:42.600 --> 0:39:45.680
<v Speaker 1>minutes about old school television and talk shows and him

0:39:45.719 --> 0:39:48.239
<v Speaker 1>coming to do Hollywood Squares to Los Angeles when he

0:39:48.280 --> 0:39:52.200
<v Speaker 1>was living in Boston. Aaron andrews awesome. I wish there

0:39:52.239 --> 0:39:55.000
<v Speaker 1>were more gossipy stories about people, because I would tell you.

0:39:55.000 --> 0:39:58.200
<v Speaker 1>I'd be like, oh, yeah, they're really note. It was

0:39:58.239 --> 0:40:01.000
<v Speaker 1>such a good the social media a team, the girl

0:40:01.040 --> 0:40:05.480
<v Speaker 1>that did social media awesome, and I don't know, and

0:40:05.520 --> 0:40:07.880
<v Speaker 1>everyone acted like I was the nicest guy. Ever, I'm not.

0:40:07.920 --> 0:40:11.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm just a normal dude. But I think like in

0:40:11.480 --> 0:40:18.720
<v Speaker 1>Los Angeles, everyone has to define themselves publicly differently, meaning

0:40:19.120 --> 0:40:21.799
<v Speaker 1>in Los Angeles, like to show you're a big star,

0:40:21.880 --> 0:40:23.319
<v Speaker 1>you have to be like, I'm big star. Don't talk

0:40:23.360 --> 0:40:28.000
<v Speaker 1>to me where I come from. You talk to everybody.

0:40:28.000 --> 0:40:30.040
<v Speaker 1>And the bigger the star you are, the nicer, you

0:40:30.080 --> 0:40:32.600
<v Speaker 1>better be like a freaking Garth Brooks, nicest dude in

0:40:32.640 --> 0:40:36.200
<v Speaker 1>the whole world. In our world, if you're not nice,

0:40:36.239 --> 0:40:38.600
<v Speaker 1>you better be nice. It felt like in that world,

0:40:38.640 --> 0:40:41.040
<v Speaker 1>if you are nice, you're taught, hey, don't be nice

0:40:41.120 --> 0:40:43.600
<v Speaker 1>because you need to act like a star. And so

0:40:43.640 --> 0:40:45.640
<v Speaker 1>I go into this place and I'm just like, what

0:40:45.960 --> 0:40:48.600
<v Speaker 1>up like hanging out with everybody that everybody's the same

0:40:49.680 --> 0:40:52.640
<v Speaker 1>from the camera guy to Tom Berge. Wrong were everybody

0:40:52.680 --> 0:40:54.920
<v Speaker 1>was just I just wanted to chill and be normal

0:40:55.600 --> 0:41:00.920
<v Speaker 1>and so um, I think, you know, for me, that

0:41:01.000 --> 0:41:05.120
<v Speaker 1>was a cool thing because people were very warm and

0:41:05.160 --> 0:41:10.319
<v Speaker 1>welcoming and they were very helpful to me, and I

0:41:10.360 --> 0:41:13.520
<v Speaker 1>think that allowed me to adjust to it a bit more.

0:41:13.560 --> 0:41:15.640
<v Speaker 1>I never fully adjusted because the time zone was weird

0:41:16.120 --> 0:41:17.440
<v Speaker 1>and I was always in the back of a uber

0:41:18.000 --> 0:41:21.399
<v Speaker 1>and it was tough. I made some good friends. Um,

0:41:21.440 --> 0:41:23.480
<v Speaker 1>but think about Sharna. I'll tell you the time that

0:41:23.600 --> 0:41:26.520
<v Speaker 1>because every times we really got into big fights. But

0:41:26.600 --> 0:41:29.520
<v Speaker 1>again you just aren't with someone that much and and

0:41:29.640 --> 0:41:33.319
<v Speaker 1>not fight. We were practicing for the Waltz. I'm not

0:41:33.400 --> 0:41:37.800
<v Speaker 1>sure which walts was Viennese waltz stuff, Kentucky Waltz. I

0:41:37.800 --> 0:41:40.920
<v Speaker 1>don't know, that's the thing. We're practicing for the Walts.

0:41:41.239 --> 0:41:44.360
<v Speaker 1>And we were exhausted because again I was working on

0:41:44.480 --> 0:41:47.279
<v Speaker 1>radio show. We're flying across the country back and forth.

0:41:47.320 --> 0:41:49.719
<v Speaker 1>I was doing comedy shows. She would fly with me too.

0:41:49.719 --> 0:41:51.319
<v Speaker 1>I had to do a show in Indiana. So she

0:41:51.440 --> 0:41:54.040
<v Speaker 1>met me in Chicago to just dance for six seven

0:41:54.040 --> 0:41:55.440
<v Speaker 1>hours and she flew back out and then I had

0:41:55.480 --> 0:41:58.440
<v Speaker 1>to drive. I mean it was NonStop and so and

0:41:58.440 --> 0:41:59.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't say they complaining, but just so you know

0:42:00.000 --> 0:42:02.320
<v Speaker 1>where our minds where we would get to these practices

0:42:02.880 --> 0:42:05.880
<v Speaker 1>and we were already exhausted. And so she met me

0:42:05.920 --> 0:42:07.759
<v Speaker 1>in Nashville because I had to come home for two

0:42:07.840 --> 0:42:10.520
<v Speaker 1>days for something. Oh, I know what it was. It

0:42:10.600 --> 0:42:15.719
<v Speaker 1>was the musicians musicians on calling thing. Yeah, so um,

0:42:15.760 --> 0:42:19.640
<v Speaker 1>having a big fundraiser with musicians on call and we're

0:42:19.680 --> 0:42:24.279
<v Speaker 1>practicing here. We're both so tired, and she got mad

0:42:24.320 --> 0:42:28.040
<v Speaker 1>at me for rolling my eyes at her. Again, you

0:42:28.080 --> 0:42:30.840
<v Speaker 1>know when you're hungry or you're tired and you're just irritable.

0:42:31.120 --> 0:42:33.600
<v Speaker 1>We were both there. We have both hit our peak.

0:42:35.200 --> 0:42:37.480
<v Speaker 1>This is like week eight or something seven or I

0:42:37.520 --> 0:42:40.120
<v Speaker 1>don't know. We had both hit our peak of just

0:42:40.360 --> 0:42:43.520
<v Speaker 1>so tired and anything was gonna set us off. They

0:42:43.560 --> 0:42:45.960
<v Speaker 1>had traded as producers. We had one producer named Mike

0:42:45.960 --> 0:42:47.640
<v Speaker 1>the whole time that we loved, and he got cut

0:42:47.680 --> 0:42:49.440
<v Speaker 1>for some reason, and we hated that because he was

0:42:49.480 --> 0:42:55.279
<v Speaker 1>like our dude, and anything would have set the other

0:42:55.320 --> 0:42:58.080
<v Speaker 1>person off. And she got mad at me for rolling

0:42:58.120 --> 0:43:03.480
<v Speaker 1>my eyes, and I was like, um, roll my eyes.

0:43:03.760 --> 0:43:05.760
<v Speaker 1>I don't roll my eyes. I don't talk to people

0:43:05.760 --> 0:43:08.839
<v Speaker 1>in roll my but I was like, man, maybe I'm

0:43:08.880 --> 0:43:11.080
<v Speaker 1>so tired to roll my eyes at her. She got

0:43:11.120 --> 0:43:12.840
<v Speaker 1>so mad, and at the same time I was getting

0:43:12.840 --> 0:43:15.400
<v Speaker 1>mad at her because she was frustrated that I couldn't

0:43:15.440 --> 0:43:17.719
<v Speaker 1>get some steps right. We would do it fifty seven

0:43:17.719 --> 0:43:21.040
<v Speaker 1>times and I couldn't get it, and so we were

0:43:21.080 --> 0:43:22.920
<v Speaker 1>both She was like, don't roll your eyes. I was like,

0:43:22.920 --> 0:43:24.799
<v Speaker 1>stop treating me like a kid like, I'm working as

0:43:24.840 --> 0:43:28.520
<v Speaker 1>hard as I can, and she was like, if you're

0:43:28.520 --> 0:43:30.400
<v Speaker 1>gonna roll your eyes, and she left the room and

0:43:30.440 --> 0:43:32.879
<v Speaker 1>the cameras around the whole time, and I remember going,

0:43:33.280 --> 0:43:36.240
<v Speaker 1>this is reality show. Let's show him reality. Well we're fighting,

0:43:36.960 --> 0:43:40.040
<v Speaker 1>and so still in the back of my head, I'm going,

0:43:41.000 --> 0:43:45.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't roll my eyes. Ever, Here's what happened. We

0:43:45.480 --> 0:43:47.040
<v Speaker 1>were doing a waltz and I was spinning so much.

0:43:47.080 --> 0:43:49.040
<v Speaker 1>I was so motion sick that I was trying to

0:43:49.080 --> 0:43:51.799
<v Speaker 1>catch my balance and by doing that, my eyes are

0:43:51.840 --> 0:43:54.160
<v Speaker 1>rolling on the top of my head, like like ohh.

0:43:55.480 --> 0:43:57.319
<v Speaker 1>And she took that as me rolling my eyes just

0:43:57.360 --> 0:43:59.480
<v Speaker 1>miscommunication as all it was because I don't roll my

0:43:59.520 --> 0:44:01.719
<v Speaker 1>eyes and I was getting so sick. I have my

0:44:01.760 --> 0:44:05.000
<v Speaker 1>doctors in medicine pro motion sickness. By the way, first

0:44:05.040 --> 0:44:08.560
<v Speaker 1>danswer she's ever had to get motion sick dancing. Not

0:44:08.680 --> 0:44:11.000
<v Speaker 1>only do we have a hairline fracture on my foot,

0:44:11.120 --> 0:44:13.960
<v Speaker 1>a slight tear on my shoulder, but also I got

0:44:14.000 --> 0:44:18.960
<v Speaker 1>motion sick like crazy and so but that was just

0:44:19.000 --> 0:44:25.600
<v Speaker 1>a product of being together all the time. And I

0:44:25.640 --> 0:44:29.239
<v Speaker 1>don't even know that she was even frustrated, because she

0:44:29.239 --> 0:44:31.920
<v Speaker 1>would watch her the video on the phone and she'd

0:44:31.960 --> 0:44:33.960
<v Speaker 1>be like, Oh, I don't know who she was mad a.

0:44:33.960 --> 0:44:35.239
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. She may not even mad at me.

0:44:35.320 --> 0:44:37.040
<v Speaker 1>She could have mad at herself for me not being

0:44:37.040 --> 0:44:39.000
<v Speaker 1>able to get it. But we were both just so

0:44:39.040 --> 0:44:42.359
<v Speaker 1>worn out that we were we just took it out

0:44:42.360 --> 0:44:44.800
<v Speaker 1>on each other. I remember flying from Nashville back to

0:44:44.880 --> 0:44:47.160
<v Speaker 1>Los Angeles. We sat beside each other. They put us

0:44:47.160 --> 0:44:48.960
<v Speaker 1>in first class every time, which is super cool to

0:44:49.000 --> 0:44:52.759
<v Speaker 1>show to do that. I think it's in everybody's contract. Um.

0:44:52.840 --> 0:44:54.239
<v Speaker 1>We didn't say a worried each other the whole time

0:44:54.280 --> 0:44:56.759
<v Speaker 1>for five hours, got off the airplane, went our separate ways.

0:44:58.800 --> 0:45:00.239
<v Speaker 1>It was like a marriage and that it was the

0:45:00.280 --> 0:45:03.239
<v Speaker 1>week that I said that, like a uh et or something.

0:45:03.280 --> 0:45:05.520
<v Speaker 1>I was like, it was like a marriage. Man. Most

0:45:05.600 --> 0:45:08.560
<v Speaker 1>times great, Sometimes it's not. But you're committed to working

0:45:08.560 --> 0:45:10.640
<v Speaker 1>it out because you have to, because there's a there's

0:45:10.640 --> 0:45:15.360
<v Speaker 1>an end goal. And so we uh We had some

0:45:15.360 --> 0:45:18.239
<v Speaker 1>some big, big blow ups, but it always came back

0:45:18.280 --> 0:45:21.040
<v Speaker 1>to the fact that there was such respect between us

0:45:21.080 --> 0:45:23.520
<v Speaker 1>that we were there to work and win the freaking thing.

0:45:24.560 --> 0:45:27.440
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know how we're gonna do it. We had

0:45:27.440 --> 0:45:28.840
<v Speaker 1>to trust each other. I had to trust her that

0:45:28.880 --> 0:45:30.440
<v Speaker 1>she was gonna get me to whatever place and I

0:45:30.440 --> 0:45:33.040
<v Speaker 1>would stay if we needed. There were again, there were nice.

0:45:33.040 --> 0:45:36.960
<v Speaker 1>We practiced for fourteen hours, and there were nice. We

0:45:37.000 --> 0:45:38.560
<v Speaker 1>would go and do dress rehearsal on the show, and

0:45:38.600 --> 0:45:40.160
<v Speaker 1>she made me we go back to the be the

0:45:40.200 --> 0:45:44.040
<v Speaker 1>only ones to go back and train. But I trusted

0:45:44.520 --> 0:45:48.200
<v Speaker 1>that she wasn't punishing me, that she was actually putting

0:45:48.200 --> 0:45:52.080
<v Speaker 1>me in the best place to move forward. And she

0:45:52.239 --> 0:45:55.480
<v Speaker 1>trusted me to do whatever crazy stuff I was gonna do,

0:45:56.160 --> 0:46:00.239
<v Speaker 1>not even crazy, entertaining and frankly things I wanted to do. Anyway,

0:46:00.360 --> 0:46:02.080
<v Speaker 1>I can't wait till they send my autitrap shoe back.

0:46:02.080 --> 0:46:04.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm waiting for it. I was like, how often am

0:46:04.160 --> 0:46:05.799
<v Speaker 1>I gonna get this is me? And I told Miked

0:46:05.880 --> 0:46:07.000
<v Speaker 1>I was gonna do this is I'm gonna put a

0:46:07.000 --> 0:46:09.160
<v Speaker 1>sharpie in my sock and I forgot to get the

0:46:09.160 --> 0:46:11.920
<v Speaker 1>sharpie from you? Did you bring the sharpie? And if

0:46:11.920 --> 0:46:12.960
<v Speaker 1>we got to get it from you? And I was like,

0:46:13.000 --> 0:46:14.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna put a sharpie in my sock on the

0:46:14.520 --> 0:46:17.160
<v Speaker 1>last night, and if it goes well, I'm gonna go

0:46:17.200 --> 0:46:18.960
<v Speaker 1>getta sign my shoe because how cool will that be?

0:46:19.040 --> 0:46:22.040
<v Speaker 1>To have in my house. I signed to you by

0:46:22.040 --> 0:46:23.520
<v Speaker 1>all three of the judges. What are they ever gonna

0:46:23.520 --> 0:46:25.560
<v Speaker 1>be sitting together again except for on TV? So we

0:46:25.640 --> 0:46:27.960
<v Speaker 1>do the mc hammer dance and everybody's like they do

0:46:27.960 --> 0:46:30.000
<v Speaker 1>this thing where they're like boa and I reached down,

0:46:30.080 --> 0:46:31.680
<v Speaker 1>take my shoe off, pull my sharpy out of my

0:46:31.719 --> 0:46:33.560
<v Speaker 1>sock that I danced in. I felt it too while

0:46:33.560 --> 0:46:35.520
<v Speaker 1>I was dancing, and heart a little bit, and I

0:46:35.520 --> 0:46:37.319
<v Speaker 1>went over and I had him signed my shoe on

0:46:37.360 --> 0:46:38.960
<v Speaker 1>TV because I knew there would be no other time

0:46:38.960 --> 0:46:40.560
<v Speaker 1>to get him to do that. But I did what

0:46:40.560 --> 0:46:42.000
<v Speaker 1>I thought anyone would do if they ran into all

0:46:42.000 --> 0:46:43.680
<v Speaker 1>three of those judges. You're going to sign something, You

0:46:43.719 --> 0:46:46.960
<v Speaker 1>take a picture with them and so um, and she

0:46:47.080 --> 0:46:51.200
<v Speaker 1>trusted me to do really whatever I felt to entertain

0:46:51.239 --> 0:46:54.200
<v Speaker 1>the people watching the show, and she trusted me that

0:46:54.239 --> 0:46:57.799
<v Speaker 1>I thought that I figured out how to actually win

0:46:57.880 --> 0:47:00.919
<v Speaker 1>the show by not being the best dancer. It's not

0:47:01.560 --> 0:47:06.880
<v Speaker 1>strictly a dance competition, are It's not, or they wouldn't

0:47:06.880 --> 0:47:07.960
<v Speaker 1>put the votes in there. If you don't want to

0:47:07.960 --> 0:47:10.360
<v Speaker 1>watch a full dance show, go go to PBS and

0:47:10.440 --> 0:47:13.440
<v Speaker 1>watch ballroom dancing and there's your best dance show right there.

0:47:14.640 --> 0:47:19.960
<v Speaker 1>And so I think if people know that they approached

0:47:20.000 --> 0:47:22.800
<v Speaker 1>it like it's an it's entertainment. They don't put something

0:47:22.840 --> 0:47:27.160
<v Speaker 1>on ABC in prime time that isn't as entertaining as

0:47:27.280 --> 0:47:30.919
<v Speaker 1>it can possibly be. Um, and I freaking want the show.

0:47:31.000 --> 0:47:33.920
<v Speaker 1>I remember the the Uh, we'll run through the contestants

0:47:33.920 --> 0:47:35.560
<v Speaker 1>in a minute if you want, and give your stories

0:47:35.560 --> 0:47:39.840
<v Speaker 1>about each of them. Um, I remember doing we to

0:47:39.920 --> 0:47:43.200
<v Speaker 1>the finale. We're standing there around that ball. Nobody ever

0:47:43.320 --> 0:47:47.480
<v Speaker 1>told me anything. I also listen, there are conspiracy theories

0:47:47.520 --> 0:47:49.720
<v Speaker 1>behind everything on that show where the people are slotted.

0:47:51.440 --> 0:47:55.759
<v Speaker 1>I I I don't think there's a conspiracy to have

0:47:55.920 --> 0:47:58.879
<v Speaker 1>someone win the show. And I say that as someone

0:47:58.880 --> 0:48:02.400
<v Speaker 1>who won is I don't think that it was they had.

0:48:02.400 --> 0:48:06.680
<v Speaker 1>They faced a lot of criticism after I won, and

0:48:06.760 --> 0:48:11.040
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't comfortable for anyone, and I think, really, if

0:48:11.040 --> 0:48:12.960
<v Speaker 1>they were going to do what they thought would be

0:48:12.960 --> 0:48:15.880
<v Speaker 1>best for the show, they would have Milo would have

0:48:15.880 --> 0:48:18.880
<v Speaker 1>won because he was the best dancer, and that had

0:48:18.920 --> 0:48:20.400
<v Speaker 1>made me second. That way, it's like, oh, look at

0:48:20.400 --> 0:48:21.920
<v Speaker 1>this guy, he finished second. He did really good and

0:48:22.040 --> 0:48:25.640
<v Speaker 1>never dance finished second. That's why I don't I just

0:48:25.840 --> 0:48:29.279
<v Speaker 1>I don't believe there's a conspiracy on that show. And

0:48:29.280 --> 0:48:31.480
<v Speaker 1>I say that as a person who won, I know,

0:48:31.560 --> 0:48:34.880
<v Speaker 1>and and how weird that is. I just don't because

0:48:34.880 --> 0:48:36.560
<v Speaker 1>I thought if they were at the last minute, they'd

0:48:36.560 --> 0:48:37.919
<v Speaker 1>have been like, oh, we should give to somebody who's

0:48:37.920 --> 0:48:40.000
<v Speaker 1>really good, because I mean, really, Mike, if I would

0:48:40.000 --> 0:48:41.840
<v Speaker 1>have finished second, everybody's been like, that's a great you

0:48:41.880 --> 0:48:45.719
<v Speaker 1>did a great job. Somebody, Yeah, somebody that the right

0:48:45.760 --> 0:48:48.239
<v Speaker 1>person one because he was the best dancer, which Milo was,

0:48:49.160 --> 0:48:53.279
<v Speaker 1>and look at you you did second. Come on. They

0:48:53.280 --> 0:48:58.040
<v Speaker 1>could have done that so easily, and then the next

0:48:58.080 --> 0:49:00.600
<v Speaker 1>and then nobody gets pissed everybody he would have won,

0:49:01.440 --> 0:49:03.440
<v Speaker 1>not me, and my heart, I wouldn't have one. And

0:49:03.480 --> 0:49:06.439
<v Speaker 1>I felt the pressure to me started about weeks five

0:49:06.520 --> 0:49:10.400
<v Speaker 1>or six, when I really felt like my people just

0:49:10.760 --> 0:49:12.640
<v Speaker 1>voting and I could see it on social media and

0:49:12.640 --> 0:49:15.560
<v Speaker 1>I could feel it. That's where the pressure came from

0:49:15.560 --> 0:49:19.920
<v Speaker 1>to me. It wasn't from me, it wasn't from Sharnay.

0:49:19.960 --> 0:49:22.080
<v Speaker 1>It was like, I really got to work hard and

0:49:22.120 --> 0:49:24.560
<v Speaker 1>I gotta get better because who votes on our freaking

0:49:24.600 --> 0:49:28.920
<v Speaker 1>TV show? I don't like Twice Taylor Hicks on an

0:49:28.840 --> 0:49:33.120
<v Speaker 1>American Idol that maybe it. I think about it, so

0:49:33.200 --> 0:49:34.640
<v Speaker 1>I knew what I was trying to do. I was

0:49:34.640 --> 0:49:36.640
<v Speaker 1>asking people to vote for me when I only ever

0:49:36.719 --> 0:49:38.880
<v Speaker 1>voted up. I got super passionate about something. Why was

0:49:38.920 --> 0:49:40.759
<v Speaker 1>that so passionate about Taylor Hicks by the way, I

0:49:40.840 --> 0:49:44.120
<v Speaker 1>don't know, but I was. And I'm so appreciative because

0:49:44.160 --> 0:49:45.759
<v Speaker 1>I know the people voting for me don't normally vote

0:49:45.760 --> 0:49:48.359
<v Speaker 1>on those shows. They don't, but I felt like I

0:49:48.400 --> 0:49:50.160
<v Speaker 1>was representing them, and because of that, there was a

0:49:50.160 --> 0:49:51.799
<v Speaker 1>lot of pressure that I put on myself to really

0:49:51.840 --> 0:49:55.040
<v Speaker 1>do that and to do them justice. Um, we win,

0:49:56.920 --> 0:49:59.200
<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, holy crap. And what's funny is I

0:49:59.239 --> 0:50:01.680
<v Speaker 1>watched a lot of the videos from other couples when

0:50:01.719 --> 0:50:04.080
<v Speaker 1>they won the show after after we won. I didn't

0:50:04.080 --> 0:50:07.000
<v Speaker 1>do it until after we won. And what happens is

0:50:07.040 --> 0:50:08.880
<v Speaker 1>when people win the show, they hug immediately and go

0:50:09.000 --> 0:50:10.880
<v Speaker 1>right like yeah, and they like what can you believe it?

0:50:11.200 --> 0:50:13.640
<v Speaker 1>We're both so shocked. We run away from each other

0:50:14.239 --> 0:50:15.440
<v Speaker 1>like I'm like I found my hands and I'm like,

0:50:15.440 --> 0:50:19.320
<v Speaker 1>oh my goodness, and she just like starts walking backward. Yeah.

0:50:19.560 --> 0:50:22.680
<v Speaker 1>She was like it was like when you like out

0:50:22.680 --> 0:50:24.160
<v Speaker 1>of breath, you know, put your hands on your legs

0:50:24.239 --> 0:50:26.440
<v Speaker 1>or you're like vomiting. That's what she did. And for me,

0:50:26.480 --> 0:50:27.480
<v Speaker 1>I put my hands in my head. I was like,

0:50:27.520 --> 0:50:30.680
<v Speaker 1>oh my god, I cannot believe this actually happened. It

0:50:30.719 --> 0:50:34.160
<v Speaker 1>was like we were separated, and it was the opposite

0:50:34.160 --> 0:50:36.200
<v Speaker 1>of what other what's happened with other couples, because we

0:50:36.280 --> 0:50:38.719
<v Speaker 1>were both in shocked that they were actually giving us

0:50:38.760 --> 0:50:44.759
<v Speaker 1>that trophy. And so we go and it's a whirlwind.

0:50:46.400 --> 0:50:49.400
<v Speaker 1>It's almost blurry what happened afterwards, because you're just thrown

0:50:49.400 --> 0:50:51.759
<v Speaker 1>to so much press. But what was important to me

0:50:51.840 --> 0:50:54.640
<v Speaker 1>is that all my people that flew out to California

0:50:54.760 --> 0:50:57.120
<v Speaker 1>because I brought out a mod, I brought up Jared

0:50:57.160 --> 0:51:01.040
<v Speaker 1>and Amy and all these people came out that I

0:51:01.040 --> 0:51:02.600
<v Speaker 1>I left all the press and I'll just to go

0:51:02.640 --> 0:51:03.920
<v Speaker 1>out and hang out with you guys for a bit,

0:51:03.960 --> 0:51:07.440
<v Speaker 1>because all of that other stuff wasn't gonna be there

0:51:07.480 --> 0:51:10.560
<v Speaker 1>in three or four days. You know who cares. Dancing

0:51:10.600 --> 0:51:13.480
<v Speaker 1>stars won't even matter in a few weeks to anybody else. Like,

0:51:13.520 --> 0:51:16.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm still living in a bit, but the world moves on.

0:51:16.520 --> 0:51:18.960
<v Speaker 1>I'll be on American Idol. I'll always be the world's

0:51:19.000 --> 0:51:22.879
<v Speaker 1>best dancer. Don't get me wrong, but you know, there's

0:51:22.920 --> 0:51:25.000
<v Speaker 1>been many other Dancing with the Stars champions, and I

0:51:25.000 --> 0:51:26.279
<v Speaker 1>think it's something. This is a cool memory that we

0:51:26.360 --> 0:51:28.200
<v Speaker 1>all have together. But I wanted to come over on

0:51:28.239 --> 0:51:30.120
<v Speaker 1>the ball room and hang out with my people that

0:51:30.160 --> 0:51:32.040
<v Speaker 1>were there to support me, and They're like, Bobby, need

0:51:32.040 --> 0:51:34.640
<v Speaker 1>to get depressed, and I was like, nope, all these

0:51:34.640 --> 0:51:36.319
<v Speaker 1>people came to see me, I'm gonna spend some time

0:51:36.320 --> 0:51:38.680
<v Speaker 1>with them. So in the middle of it, I went

0:51:38.719 --> 0:51:41.000
<v Speaker 1>over and as it was just it was still Haywire

0:51:41.000 --> 0:51:43.000
<v Speaker 1>on the floor, I went over and hung out at

0:51:43.000 --> 0:51:45.200
<v Speaker 1>the judge's table with everybody. It was just like, how

0:51:45.239 --> 0:51:47.200
<v Speaker 1>crazy is this? And then I went back into press

0:51:47.200 --> 0:51:48.719
<v Speaker 1>and I got to meet him at Smith. I gotta

0:51:48.719 --> 0:51:51.120
<v Speaker 1>meet a lot of cool people on the show. Boys

0:51:51.200 --> 0:51:56.800
<v Speaker 1>them in the Blue Man Group, Emtt Smith, Um, Donnie Osmond.

0:51:57.080 --> 0:51:59.920
<v Speaker 1>There were so many people that came through. Lauren Dagle,

0:52:00.320 --> 0:52:03.879
<v Speaker 1>who's a newer pop artist now but I'm a big

0:52:03.920 --> 0:52:05.640
<v Speaker 1>fan of hung out with her, like half an hour

0:52:05.680 --> 0:52:10.600
<v Speaker 1>on the finale we were practicing. Uh, I'll probably go

0:52:10.640 --> 0:52:13.239
<v Speaker 1>through this and look back and realize the mc hammer

0:52:13.239 --> 0:52:16.480
<v Speaker 1>tweeted me that's cool. So many good memories came from

0:52:16.480 --> 0:52:20.680
<v Speaker 1>this show, and I think there will even be some

0:52:20.680 --> 0:52:22.279
<v Speaker 1>people that come from the show that I'll be friends with.

0:52:22.280 --> 0:52:23.920
<v Speaker 1>I think Sharn and I will forever be bonded by us.

0:52:23.920 --> 0:52:25.960
<v Speaker 1>We we did this show together, and had we just

0:52:26.000 --> 0:52:29.640
<v Speaker 1>done the show together, it always been like, remember the

0:52:29.640 --> 0:52:31.319
<v Speaker 1>time we did that show together. We see each other way,

0:52:31.320 --> 0:52:34.080
<v Speaker 1>but because we won, will always be bonded together. There's

0:52:34.120 --> 0:52:37.319
<v Speaker 1>just something to her winning her first trophy with me

0:52:38.000 --> 0:52:40.600
<v Speaker 1>and me not I still don't know what I'm doing.

0:52:42.719 --> 0:52:45.760
<v Speaker 1>I if you ever wondered if you could do something,

0:52:46.120 --> 0:52:47.520
<v Speaker 1>You're like, I don't know if I could do that.

0:52:47.800 --> 0:52:50.280
<v Speaker 1>I freaking want a dance show. You can do anything,

0:52:51.040 --> 0:52:55.200
<v Speaker 1>Like you can do anything. I want to dance show.

0:52:56.040 --> 0:52:57.880
<v Speaker 1>And I didn't win it by just dancing. But it

0:52:57.880 --> 0:52:59.120
<v Speaker 1>doesn't matter what you want to do. You don't win.

0:52:59.200 --> 0:53:00.960
<v Speaker 1>You don't actually get ahead by just doing what you're

0:53:00.960 --> 0:53:04.280
<v Speaker 1>supposed to do. Because I know, I'm really talented people

0:53:04.480 --> 0:53:06.799
<v Speaker 1>that haven't quite figured out how to use their talent

0:53:06.800 --> 0:53:07.960
<v Speaker 1>to get to the highest level. But I know some

0:53:08.040 --> 0:53:09.960
<v Speaker 1>talent to people that also think about things in a

0:53:10.040 --> 0:53:16.640
<v Speaker 1>different way and are and are super successful. Um. But

0:53:16.640 --> 0:53:19.439
<v Speaker 1>but aside from that, let's run through the contestants, because

0:53:19.440 --> 0:53:21.879
<v Speaker 1>there really wasn't anyone that people didn't like. I didn't

0:53:21.880 --> 0:53:24.799
<v Speaker 1>talk to Nash hardly. Ever. She would come in and

0:53:24.840 --> 0:53:26.880
<v Speaker 1>out and she was doing I think she was like

0:53:26.920 --> 0:53:30.400
<v Speaker 1>singing and stuff. So she would be the only one

0:53:30.960 --> 0:53:35.480
<v Speaker 1>that I really don't have any story about because we

0:53:35.560 --> 0:53:39.200
<v Speaker 1>really didn't talk. Never anything negative. Nobody ever said anything negative,

0:53:39.320 --> 0:53:41.040
<v Speaker 1>and they often said that our cast was one of

0:53:41.080 --> 0:53:44.480
<v Speaker 1>the like the nicest casts, because we were all just

0:53:44.480 --> 0:53:48.040
<v Speaker 1>happy to be there. But other than to Nash, I

0:53:48.160 --> 0:53:51.320
<v Speaker 1>kind of had stories with everybody. You know, it's some

0:53:51.400 --> 0:53:54.320
<v Speaker 1>kind of bond. Alright, go ahead, you got Nikki Glazer,

0:53:54.920 --> 0:53:56.440
<v Speaker 1>one of the funniest people I ever met my whole life.

0:53:56.920 --> 0:53:59.600
<v Speaker 1>Like there's like I do comedy right, and it's like

0:53:59.640 --> 0:54:02.320
<v Speaker 1>someone who is really good in their high school, in

0:54:02.360 --> 0:54:04.520
<v Speaker 1>their high school league. I go out in new shows,

0:54:04.520 --> 0:54:07.759
<v Speaker 1>people laughing, right, Oh, it's funny show. But then once

0:54:07.760 --> 0:54:10.239
<v Speaker 1>they get up and they see major league players, are like,

0:54:10.239 --> 0:54:13.480
<v Speaker 1>oh my god, this is not the same. I should

0:54:13.480 --> 0:54:15.200
<v Speaker 1>shut up now and just go back to my high

0:54:15.200 --> 0:54:20.479
<v Speaker 1>school league and have fun there. Um comedian, funniest person,

0:54:20.880 --> 0:54:24.560
<v Speaker 1>possibly the funniest person ever met, such so good that

0:54:24.680 --> 0:54:28.040
<v Speaker 1>it made me realize I suck all right, go ahead

0:54:28.160 --> 0:54:31.440
<v Speaker 1>Danielle instead. Um I didn't spend a whole lot of time.

0:54:31.480 --> 0:54:33.560
<v Speaker 1>She got voted off kind of early. But Danielle was

0:54:33.760 --> 0:54:37.160
<v Speaker 1>she was blind, and what we talked about a lot

0:54:37.239 --> 0:54:38.680
<v Speaker 1>was she wants to write a book. And she was like,

0:54:38.719 --> 0:54:39.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm not to writ a book. I'm not to put

0:54:39.880 --> 0:54:41.520
<v Speaker 1>it all out there. And I was like, I didn't

0:54:41.560 --> 0:54:44.640
<v Speaker 1>know how to write a book. Clueless. That's how ever,

0:54:44.760 --> 0:54:47.319
<v Speaker 1>in Tuna, I said the same thing about that as

0:54:47.360 --> 0:54:49.200
<v Speaker 1>I did with the show. Just do it. Just go

0:54:49.280 --> 0:54:51.480
<v Speaker 1>into it, do it wrong, because you can do it

0:54:51.520 --> 0:54:52.880
<v Speaker 1>wrong and you figure out how to do it right,

0:54:52.920 --> 0:54:54.359
<v Speaker 1>or you realize the wrong way that you're doing it.

0:54:54.360 --> 0:54:56.080
<v Speaker 1>It's just the right way no one else has tried yet.

0:54:56.719 --> 0:54:59.319
<v Speaker 1>And so we talked a lot about that, and we talked.

0:54:59.520 --> 0:55:01.080
<v Speaker 1>We had a lot. Even when she came back, we

0:55:01.080 --> 0:55:05.200
<v Speaker 1>talked about that about her book A super nice um

0:55:05.440 --> 0:55:07.920
<v Speaker 1>I think she got voted off second or third. Yeah,

0:55:08.440 --> 0:55:11.640
<v Speaker 1>So again the quicker people got voted off except for Nicki.

0:55:11.680 --> 0:55:13.280
<v Speaker 1>Nicki and I stayed in touch the whole time because

0:55:13.960 --> 0:55:18.000
<v Speaker 1>we had actually written some stuff with each other. Um

0:55:18.160 --> 0:55:20.000
<v Speaker 1>I still talked to Nicky. Nick was in my final dance.

0:55:20.280 --> 0:55:22.160
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, Danielle, and that's what we really really talked

0:55:22.200 --> 0:55:25.000
<v Speaker 1>about about, Like she was really nice. What else blood

0:55:25.040 --> 0:55:27.440
<v Speaker 1>Mary Lou I asked her to be on my final dance.

0:55:27.480 --> 0:55:29.319
<v Speaker 1>She got sick the last day. She was gonna be

0:55:29.360 --> 0:55:31.440
<v Speaker 1>on top of the cake with NICKI. I thought when

0:55:31.440 --> 0:55:34.040
<v Speaker 1>they cast that show that she was going to win

0:55:34.080 --> 0:55:35.640
<v Speaker 1>the show because she was the most famous one. In

0:55:35.640 --> 0:55:37.680
<v Speaker 1>my mind, she was the most famous one because she

0:55:37.760 --> 0:55:39.200
<v Speaker 1>was the one they put in the header merrily read

0:55:39.280 --> 0:55:41.680
<v Speaker 1>and cast on Dancing with the Stars because she was

0:55:41.719 --> 0:55:43.799
<v Speaker 1>the gold medalist. Now she was gold medalist. I think

0:55:43.960 --> 0:55:45.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't know years she was going medalist. I may

0:55:45.560 --> 0:55:48.000
<v Speaker 1>not even been able to watch it on TV eighty

0:55:48.000 --> 0:55:51.239
<v Speaker 1>four or something. Hey, okay, so I was. I didn't

0:55:51.239 --> 0:55:53.960
<v Speaker 1>watch TV then. I wasn't even a kindergarten yet. But

0:55:54.040 --> 0:55:56.480
<v Speaker 1>she was the most famous. Remember meeting her the first

0:55:56.560 --> 0:55:59.839
<v Speaker 1>day we went up to do uh like clothes like,

0:56:00.360 --> 0:56:02.520
<v Speaker 1>and she was super nice, and I was like, holy crap,

0:56:02.520 --> 0:56:06.360
<v Speaker 1>merely written is nice? Um? But yeah, I really enjoyed

0:56:06.560 --> 0:56:11.239
<v Speaker 1>her and I met her kids. I think she even

0:56:11.280 --> 0:56:12.720
<v Speaker 1>said on the show she was going through a divorce.

0:56:12.760 --> 0:56:15.680
<v Speaker 1>Like on we never saw the packages. Even during the

0:56:15.680 --> 0:56:17.600
<v Speaker 1>show we could we even see them most time because

0:56:17.600 --> 0:56:19.359
<v Speaker 1>they had us going other places, like the things leading

0:56:19.400 --> 0:56:21.920
<v Speaker 1>up to the dance. Go Ahead, Nancy for them the

0:56:21.960 --> 0:56:25.360
<v Speaker 1>Facts of Life Nancy McKinnon. We were both kind of

0:56:25.400 --> 0:56:27.400
<v Speaker 1>clueless when we got there and we were on a

0:56:27.400 --> 0:56:28.800
<v Speaker 1>bus and nobody wanted to sit with us. It was

0:56:28.840 --> 0:56:31.960
<v Speaker 1>like Forrest Gump and I was walking through, and you're

0:56:31.960 --> 0:56:36.399
<v Speaker 1>more intimidated by the fact that you think people don't

0:56:36.440 --> 0:56:37.880
<v Speaker 1>want to sit with you, or don't like you, or

0:56:37.960 --> 0:56:39.719
<v Speaker 1>that you're weird. That's how I felt. I felt like

0:56:39.719 --> 0:56:41.759
<v Speaker 1>the outcast. And I walked through the bus and all

0:56:41.760 --> 0:56:43.640
<v Speaker 1>these fancy dancers, which by the way, I became friends

0:56:43.680 --> 0:56:46.319
<v Speaker 1>with later and realized they're super cool, normal people, but

0:56:46.360 --> 0:56:47.880
<v Speaker 1>it was like, can't see it here, That's what I

0:56:47.920 --> 0:56:51.920
<v Speaker 1>felt like. Seats taken and Nancy Joe from the Facts

0:56:51.920 --> 0:56:53.440
<v Speaker 1>of Life was like, hey, sit with me, and I

0:56:53.480 --> 0:56:56.440
<v Speaker 1>was like, boom, cool person. And she lives in Austin

0:56:57.160 --> 0:57:00.319
<v Speaker 1>and so I was like, does at home? So yeah,

0:57:00.320 --> 0:57:03.600
<v Speaker 1>it was really cool. What else? John Snyder? When I

0:57:03.600 --> 0:57:06.400
<v Speaker 1>would watch John dance, he was like the consummate performer,

0:57:07.040 --> 0:57:08.960
<v Speaker 1>like he regardless, he was getting things right or not.

0:57:09.560 --> 0:57:12.719
<v Speaker 1>His face. Everything about him was controlled and like I

0:57:12.719 --> 0:57:14.160
<v Speaker 1>would watch him and go, man, I wish I could

0:57:14.160 --> 0:57:15.920
<v Speaker 1>do that, because everything about me wasn't. It was the opposite.

0:57:15.920 --> 0:57:19.400
<v Speaker 1>My face is all over the place, my um uh.

0:57:19.400 --> 0:57:21.840
<v Speaker 1>And John was a really nice guy. I know from

0:57:21.840 --> 0:57:23.480
<v Speaker 1>watching reruns The Dukes of Hazzard. I guess he was

0:57:23.520 --> 0:57:25.680
<v Speaker 1>on Small Bill. Didn't know that. But he was gone

0:57:25.680 --> 0:57:27.000
<v Speaker 1>a lot, So I don't have a lot of John

0:57:27.040 --> 0:57:28.959
<v Speaker 1>stories because he was gone a lot. He was staying

0:57:28.960 --> 0:57:31.360
<v Speaker 1>in Louisiana or Nashville, and so he would travel a lot.

0:57:31.360 --> 0:57:33.640
<v Speaker 1>But his dance partner, Emma, one of my favorite people

0:57:33.680 --> 0:57:36.080
<v Speaker 1>that I met that entire show because after they got

0:57:36.160 --> 0:57:38.960
<v Speaker 1>kicked off, she worked with me a lot. Um. But

0:57:39.120 --> 0:57:40.360
<v Speaker 1>Johnson and guy did. I don't have a lot of

0:57:40.360 --> 0:57:41.840
<v Speaker 1>stories about it because he was gone the whole time.

0:57:43.680 --> 0:57:45.919
<v Speaker 1>Maybe my favorite dude that met between him and Joe,

0:57:46.480 --> 0:57:51.520
<v Speaker 1>maybe my favorite dude, nicest guy, possibly the greatest defensive

0:57:51.640 --> 0:57:54.880
<v Speaker 1>end outside linebacker, I wonder, depending on what defense he

0:57:54.920 --> 0:57:56.400
<v Speaker 1>was in that we've seen in the NFL in the

0:57:56.480 --> 0:57:58.640
<v Speaker 1>last twenty years, and I was like this dude, I

0:57:58.640 --> 0:58:00.680
<v Speaker 1>was a little intimidated by him, but the nicest guy

0:58:00.720 --> 0:58:03.400
<v Speaker 1>the nicest guy. Everybody loved a Marcus because he was

0:58:03.440 --> 0:58:05.400
<v Speaker 1>so nice, but he was so big. And I brought

0:58:05.520 --> 0:58:07.400
<v Speaker 1>him my final dance because I loved him so much,

0:58:07.560 --> 0:58:09.680
<v Speaker 1>and he lifted me up above his head. He's huge,

0:58:10.800 --> 0:58:12.720
<v Speaker 1>loved it, loved him, love it. Can't say enough good

0:58:12.720 --> 0:58:16.640
<v Speaker 1>things about him. I really would go to Wan Pablo

0:58:16.680 --> 0:58:18.840
<v Speaker 1>and say, like, dude, you are so freaking talented everything

0:58:18.880 --> 0:58:22.880
<v Speaker 1>you do. And I liked Wan Pablo a lot um

0:58:22.960 --> 0:58:25.000
<v Speaker 1>When he went home, and I said this on the show,

0:58:25.640 --> 0:58:27.120
<v Speaker 1>I thought he was way too good to go home.

0:58:27.160 --> 0:58:29.560
<v Speaker 1>But the competitive part of me was like, I'm glad

0:58:29.600 --> 0:58:31.360
<v Speaker 1>he's gone. I'd never be able to beat him dancing,

0:58:31.720 --> 0:58:33.760
<v Speaker 1>so let's get rid of all the good dancers. Let's

0:58:33.800 --> 0:58:35.600
<v Speaker 1>just leave me and grocery store Joe. Let's let us

0:58:35.600 --> 0:58:38.440
<v Speaker 1>battle it out to the death. I really liked Wan Pablo,

0:58:38.520 --> 0:58:42.560
<v Speaker 1>though quiet, and I think some people we're afraid to

0:58:42.560 --> 0:58:44.600
<v Speaker 1>approach him because he was so perfect and everything he

0:58:44.680 --> 0:58:48.960
<v Speaker 1>looked great, he danced great, seeing he ate great. Everything

0:58:49.000 --> 0:58:52.360
<v Speaker 1>about him was just right. He's just amazing. Everything about

0:58:52.360 --> 0:58:54.000
<v Speaker 1>it was amazing. I think some people were intidated by him.

0:58:54.000 --> 0:58:55.520
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't. I would go up to him. Like dude,

0:58:55.560 --> 0:58:57.080
<v Speaker 1>and I would ask him questions about because he went

0:58:57.120 --> 0:58:59.000
<v Speaker 1>to like fame school that you know, he went to

0:58:59.040 --> 0:59:01.480
<v Speaker 1>school talking about a seing and dance and he danced

0:59:01.640 --> 0:59:03.280
<v Speaker 1>in all these broadways And I was like, dude, you

0:59:03.320 --> 0:59:05.680
<v Speaker 1>were everything I'm not and it's amazing. I like him

0:59:05.840 --> 0:59:09.640
<v Speaker 1>Pablo a lot. Alexis, we didn't talk a whole lot.

0:59:10.040 --> 0:59:11.400
<v Speaker 1>You know, she was around, but she didn't say a

0:59:11.440 --> 0:59:13.560
<v Speaker 1>whole lot. She was very sweet when she would talk,

0:59:13.640 --> 0:59:17.160
<v Speaker 1>but yeah, she we didn't. You know, there was me

0:59:17.200 --> 0:59:20.960
<v Speaker 1>and her partner. I loved Alan, like that was the dude.

0:59:21.360 --> 0:59:23.440
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, Legis, I didn't talk a whole lot. She

0:59:23.520 --> 0:59:26.440
<v Speaker 1>was never not nice, but we just didn't you know,

0:59:26.440 --> 0:59:29.520
<v Speaker 1>what does she like two and I'm thirty eight? Like

0:59:29.560 --> 0:59:30.959
<v Speaker 1>what does she have in common with me? I would

0:59:30.960 --> 0:59:32.520
<v Speaker 1>try to talk to he a little bit, but you know,

0:59:32.600 --> 0:59:35.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. We didn't talk a whole lot. Love

0:59:35.680 --> 0:59:37.680
<v Speaker 1>We got a team weeks. She became a best friend,

0:59:38.480 --> 0:59:40.480
<v Speaker 1>uh and then we became so close after and she

0:59:40.680 --> 0:59:42.760
<v Speaker 1>they were the only couple that I genuinely rooted good

0:59:42.760 --> 0:59:45.120
<v Speaker 1>for everybody else I'd be like, I like you hope

0:59:45.120 --> 0:59:49.320
<v Speaker 1>you fall down? Um her and Kio I would watch.

0:59:49.600 --> 0:59:51.439
<v Speaker 1>I didn't watch a single dance the last four weeks.

0:59:51.440 --> 0:59:54.520
<v Speaker 1>I watched no nobody else's dances ever, because I realized

0:59:54.560 --> 0:59:56.280
<v Speaker 1>it was doing nothing but affecting me in a negative way.

0:59:56.560 --> 0:59:57.920
<v Speaker 1>Because I knew I couldn't do that, I was just

0:59:57.920 --> 0:59:59.800
<v Speaker 1>gonna do what I did, except there's I would watch

0:59:59.800 --> 1:00:01.320
<v Speaker 1>the and I would root so hard that they would

1:00:01.360 --> 1:00:04.160
<v Speaker 1>do good because they were just so awesome. I loved

1:00:04.200 --> 1:00:06.160
<v Speaker 1>them as a team. She was from Harry Potter, never

1:00:06.160 --> 1:00:09.160
<v Speaker 1>seen Harry Potter, so to me, that wasn't a thing. Um,

1:00:09.200 --> 1:00:11.520
<v Speaker 1>it was really cool. And that's the only dances that

1:00:11.560 --> 1:00:14.640
<v Speaker 1>I watched the final like month of the show. She's

1:00:14.640 --> 1:00:17.240
<v Speaker 1>a vegan and she would lecture me on veganism. Didn't care.

1:00:17.680 --> 1:00:18.800
<v Speaker 1>She was the best. And I would go like, how

1:00:18.840 --> 1:00:20.720
<v Speaker 1>do you know plants can't feel We just can't talk

1:00:20.760 --> 1:00:22.720
<v Speaker 1>to them, you know we how we community? She's like, well,

1:00:22.760 --> 1:00:25.920
<v Speaker 1>they have no and I'd be like, anyway, there's a

1:00:25.920 --> 1:00:27.920
<v Speaker 1>whole thing. I loved her. She wrote a funny Instagram

1:00:27.920 --> 1:00:30.280
<v Speaker 1>post in one of her last instagrams about she was

1:00:30.320 --> 1:00:31.920
<v Speaker 1>like he congratulations to Bobby. I would watch you in

1:00:31.960 --> 1:00:33.400
<v Speaker 1>team week and you had you were clueless and you

1:00:33.400 --> 1:00:35.720
<v Speaker 1>would work double the time just to try to catch up.

1:00:35.960 --> 1:00:38.040
<v Speaker 1>She was right, I would have to. And I thought

1:00:38.080 --> 1:00:41.640
<v Speaker 1>her post was so funny because she was like congratulating me,

1:00:41.720 --> 1:00:43.880
<v Speaker 1>but also kind of taking a funny like a little

1:00:43.880 --> 1:00:46.080
<v Speaker 1>funniest fight, like you really weren't a good dancer. I know,

1:00:46.560 --> 1:00:48.840
<v Speaker 1>I know, I loved her. I would talk about her

1:00:48.880 --> 1:00:52.760
<v Speaker 1>for thirty minutes. Go ahead, dude, that kid, he's gonna

1:00:52.800 --> 1:00:55.320
<v Speaker 1>be so famous. He's gonna be still. He's seventeen, He's

1:00:55.320 --> 1:00:59.959
<v Speaker 1>gonna be so famous. Good looking kid, great personality, great dance.

1:01:00.000 --> 1:01:02.800
<v Speaker 1>There can sing like if we would forget sometimes he

1:01:02.840 --> 1:01:05.040
<v Speaker 1>was seventeen because he was so mature for his age,

1:01:05.440 --> 1:01:07.960
<v Speaker 1>and his mom was super nice. Cameron Manheim, who I

1:01:08.000 --> 1:01:09.560
<v Speaker 1>didn't really know her from acting, that would look her

1:01:09.640 --> 1:01:10.920
<v Speaker 1>up afterwards We're like, oh yeah, I like at that.

1:01:10.960 --> 1:01:13.800
<v Speaker 1>She's said some stuff. I love the kid, and early

1:01:13.840 --> 1:01:15.080
<v Speaker 1>on in the the show would kind of give him tips

1:01:15.120 --> 1:01:17.000
<v Speaker 1>on how to work with the camera, like during the

1:01:17.040 --> 1:01:19.000
<v Speaker 1>live show, like, dude, don't do dead face. I always

1:01:19.040 --> 1:01:20.720
<v Speaker 1>have something to say. And I started to coach him

1:01:20.720 --> 1:01:22.800
<v Speaker 1>a little bit and then I realized he's probably gonna

1:01:22.800 --> 1:01:25.240
<v Speaker 1>beat me. And I was about week five I saw him,

1:01:26.840 --> 1:01:29.600
<v Speaker 1>go back, go back, nothing. He used to do great kid,

1:01:30.200 --> 1:01:32.840
<v Speaker 1>like great, his mom should be so proud. Should have

1:01:32.920 --> 1:01:35.400
<v Speaker 1>won the show like you should have. If any other season,

1:01:35.680 --> 1:01:38.000
<v Speaker 1>if I wouldn't have been there and approached a different way,

1:01:38.040 --> 1:01:41.400
<v Speaker 1>he'd have won the show. Best dancer left, all in all,

1:01:41.520 --> 1:01:45.080
<v Speaker 1>best well rounded on that show, like dancer and lovableness.

1:01:46.320 --> 1:01:49.320
<v Speaker 1>If I hadn't cracked the code, he had won the show. Great.

1:01:49.400 --> 1:01:51.960
<v Speaker 1>I couldn't say enough good things about it. Love that kid.

1:01:52.120 --> 1:01:56.400
<v Speaker 1>What else? That was? Like, my dude, Like we bonded

1:01:56.440 --> 1:02:00.280
<v Speaker 1>over just life. We're both thrown into something. We had

1:02:00.280 --> 1:02:03.640
<v Speaker 1>no comfort doing this together doing it, but we were together.

1:02:03.760 --> 1:02:05.720
<v Speaker 1>We'd be at the urinal being beside each other and

1:02:05.760 --> 1:02:08.880
<v Speaker 1>be like, dude, you're nervous. I'm so nervous. Oh my god.

1:02:09.160 --> 1:02:11.560
<v Speaker 1>Every week and then it'll be like you're getting less nervous.

1:02:12.200 --> 1:02:15.840
<v Speaker 1>U uh. And I put him in my final dance

1:02:15.960 --> 1:02:20.520
<v Speaker 1>because we really bonded. They've never seen The Bachelor or

1:02:20.600 --> 1:02:23.400
<v Speaker 1>the Bachelor in Paradise, so there wasn't that where I

1:02:23.400 --> 1:02:26.160
<v Speaker 1>was like, oh, just he was just a normal dude

1:02:26.680 --> 1:02:28.640
<v Speaker 1>aside from me. He was just a normal of the

1:02:28.640 --> 1:02:32.440
<v Speaker 1>normalist dudes there. And we kept getting put through. We

1:02:32.520 --> 1:02:35.840
<v Speaker 1>were both feeling criticism, and he came up to me

1:02:35.880 --> 1:02:37.640
<v Speaker 1>after He's like, hey, man, I know I've been eliminated,

1:02:37.640 --> 1:02:40.080
<v Speaker 1>but like I'm rooted for you because like you're kind

1:02:40.080 --> 1:02:44.439
<v Speaker 1>of representing us. And so I really liked Joe, really

1:02:44.440 --> 1:02:46.479
<v Speaker 1>liked him a lot. Took a minute because he's real quiet,

1:02:46.480 --> 1:02:49.680
<v Speaker 1>and when someone's really quiet, you go they had dick

1:02:50.840 --> 1:02:52.280
<v Speaker 1>or they just quiet. It turns out he was just

1:02:52.360 --> 1:02:54.880
<v Speaker 1>quiet but so funny. I really like Joe. On the

1:02:54.960 --> 1:02:59.160
<v Speaker 1>dancer side of things, I think my favorite like um

1:02:59.200 --> 1:03:01.960
<v Speaker 1>Emma and saw Asha. They're two dancers, two different pros.

1:03:02.160 --> 1:03:06.320
<v Speaker 1>Emma dance with John Schneider and Sasha danced with merry

1:03:06.360 --> 1:03:09.240
<v Speaker 1>Ly Retten, but they're married. They're like, I want to

1:03:09.240 --> 1:03:12.040
<v Speaker 1>be friends with them forever. They were that they were

1:03:12.200 --> 1:03:15.640
<v Speaker 1>so nice and I get to go back on a

1:03:15.680 --> 1:03:17.600
<v Speaker 1>tour for a few days and I really am looking

1:03:17.600 --> 1:03:19.400
<v Speaker 1>forward to hanging out with them and Lindsay, who was

1:03:19.440 --> 1:03:22.080
<v Speaker 1>to Marcus partner. Like they really worked with me um

1:03:22.080 --> 1:03:24.479
<v Speaker 1>Whenever Charlotte was like instructing the big group, they would

1:03:24.840 --> 1:03:28.080
<v Speaker 1>pull me aside and work with me. Um Kio. There

1:03:28.080 --> 1:03:29.320
<v Speaker 1>were times with Keyo had to teach me how to

1:03:29.360 --> 1:03:31.280
<v Speaker 1>dance their team weak goes me and Kyo. Dude, he

1:03:31.360 --> 1:03:34.200
<v Speaker 1>was doing the girl parts and he was just he

1:03:34.280 --> 1:03:36.400
<v Speaker 1>was like, he's that Bobby, let's do it, and that

1:03:36.400 --> 1:03:39.840
<v Speaker 1>sounds like an Australian. He's not a strong but like,

1:03:39.920 --> 1:03:42.680
<v Speaker 1>there's means so many cool people that you don't want

1:03:42.680 --> 1:03:44.360
<v Speaker 1>to vows like the coolest dude ever. But he got

1:03:44.480 --> 1:03:49.640
<v Speaker 1>kicked off quickly because he had Nancy. I think so

1:03:50.400 --> 1:03:53.040
<v Speaker 1>there are a lot of them. The troupe is good.

1:03:53.400 --> 1:03:58.720
<v Speaker 1>Is there anything I haven't said anything that any bombshell?

1:03:59.600 --> 1:04:05.680
<v Speaker 1>I haven't I said I think you think of it

1:04:05.800 --> 1:04:09.120
<v Speaker 1>was that it was the best experience. I'm so glad

1:04:09.120 --> 1:04:12.000
<v Speaker 1>it's over. People were going, man, two days after the show,

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna be wake m Ben and be like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>what's happening? Two days later, welcome the show. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>thank God, it's not happening. I was so tired. I

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<v Speaker 1>actually went in box today for the first time. I

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<v Speaker 1>went to a boxing class. My cardio is an A plus.

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<v Speaker 1>Did a whole class and I was like, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>even breathing. I have a little gut right now because

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<v Speaker 1>I've been eating like crap because I'm like SCREWPT I

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<v Speaker 1>don't care right now, but my cardio is a plus.

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<v Speaker 1>I found this little lump on my lif It talked

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<v Speaker 1>about this little ump I found in my leg um.

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<v Speaker 1>I found this little lump on my leg and I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, oh no, I was kind of rubbing it

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<v Speaker 1>and yeah, it's a calf calf muscle. Yeah it's the

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<v Speaker 1>first time ever. Yeah you like that. Thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 1>It was an awesome experience. I'm glad I didn't know

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<v Speaker 1>how hard it was going into it. I'm glad I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know how bad I was before I did it.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know I was gonna be that bad. To

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<v Speaker 1>everyone who keeps messaging me, going you suck as a dancer,

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<v Speaker 1>shut up. I don't think I'm any better than you do.

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<v Speaker 1>Like anything else that I do, I'm never the most talented,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm gonna outwork everyone, and I'm also gonna I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna know the rules so well. Like radio, I know

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<v Speaker 1>the rules so well, I know when I need to

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<v Speaker 1>go to break. I know the science behind it's so

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<v Speaker 1>well that it allows me whenever I do my creative thing,

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<v Speaker 1>I can work inside the guidelines. The same with the show.

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<v Speaker 1>I just learned the science of the show. And I'll

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<v Speaker 1>end with this. I believe that you have to surround

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<v Speaker 1>yourself with good people in order to do great things.

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<v Speaker 1>And I did that between you guys, the best. Could

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<v Speaker 1>not have done it without you at all, zero present.

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<v Speaker 1>I would have done it without you and Sharna, which

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<v Speaker 1>is would have never happened. I surrounded myself with the

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<v Speaker 1>best people. Let me also put my radio staff in there,

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<v Speaker 1>because they had to endure a lot of me coming

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<v Speaker 1>in exhausted. They had to endure me being the high,

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<v Speaker 1>highest and lowest of moods. It's physically pushed in ways

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<v Speaker 1>I've never been pushed before. And there's a big shadow

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<v Speaker 1>that goes to them too. So I believe if you

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<v Speaker 1>can surround yourself with the best people, great things can happen.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you have people who aren't going around you,

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<v Speaker 1>it's up to you to change it. You can either

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<v Speaker 1>change them or change the way that you're working. And

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<v Speaker 1>so I think this. I think that's how long has

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<v Speaker 1>this been a little over an hour? All right? Anything

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<v Speaker 1>I've not said in that in the tell all? I think.

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<v Speaker 1>The thing I just wondered from being there every week

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<v Speaker 1>is do you guys have like a list of like

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<v Speaker 1>things you can pull from for like the set, like

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<v Speaker 1>if you want fire like water. Um, so there's a creative.

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<v Speaker 1>I would I was not a good enough to answer

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<v Speaker 1>to really know about the creative. But the producers on

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<v Speaker 1>that show, Um, there's an executive producer named Ashley that

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<v Speaker 1>is so good at what she does and like Sharna

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<v Speaker 1>was the best, best choreographer, the best idea person our

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<v Speaker 1>final dance, Like I sent sharnas some ideas like I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to talk and stuff, and she created this fantastic

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<v Speaker 1>dance just for me, like built for me. And they do, um,

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<v Speaker 1>really wonderful jobs of doing that. I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 1>have nothing to do with that, but I think they

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<v Speaker 1>come up with these concepts and um, they make it happen.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not educated enough to give that answer. But no,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't get to walk around a warehouse and go,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll take the cow, I'll take the I'll take the

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<v Speaker 1>large honey badger. Can I get the Bazuka? No? I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>That was just crazy to see them just pull out

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<v Speaker 1>these big, elaborate pieces for one dance. It takes this

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<v Speaker 1>entire team just get this one car out there or

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<v Speaker 1>something or set this like pyrotechnic. It was crazy, no idea,

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<v Speaker 1>not educated enough to give that answer. ABC was fantastic,

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<v Speaker 1>The company BBC was fantastic, the people that own the show,

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<v Speaker 1>the people. It was just such a great experience. The

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<v Speaker 1>hardest thing I would Yeah, is it? So? I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's it? Anything else you wanna ask? All right, thank

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<v Speaker 1>you so much. Hopefully this answer some question sens also

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<v Speaker 1>hit me out. Appreciate you all right? This episode? What

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<v Speaker 1>thanks to life flock you feel like people like this one?

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<v Speaker 1>I think? Yeah, all right, shout out. If I forgot you,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry and I gotta go bye ready m hm

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<v Speaker 1>h