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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.

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Speaker 2: Diddy strikes back and the state braces for the defense

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Speaker 2: closing arguments. Good evening, I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories.

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Speaker 2: I want to thank you for being with us at

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Speaker 2: the courthouse Vegas. Odds even Shawn Comes will spend no

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Speaker 2: time behind bars, and Shawn Comes will spend life behind bars.

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Speaker 2: It's all down to twelve jurrrs. We are headed into

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Speaker 2: a verdict. Watch here at Crime Stories. Now straight to

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Speaker 2: Crime Stories. Investigative reporter Sidney Sumner, Sydney. The state is

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Speaker 2: braced closing arguments going throughout the day. The state went

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Speaker 2: five hours in closing arguments and they were withering the jury,

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Speaker 2: making notes furiously and leaning forward in their seats. That's

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Speaker 2: always a good sign. But you can't call this in

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Speaker 2: the fifth inning. No, there's a long way to go, Sydney,

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Speaker 2: Summer Today. Defense closing arguments start at the beginning with

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Speaker 2: Seawan Kinmes walking into the courtroom.

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Speaker 1: ALTONA must stay. What happened?

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Speaker 3: Well, Nancy, we have heard reports, but did he has

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Speaker 3: been greeting his lawyers with a yoga studio esque bow.

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Speaker 3: Class's hands together gives them a little nod of respect

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Speaker 3: as he greets them in the morning. Today is all

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Speaker 3: about decent.

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Speaker 4: Just stop right there? What what woll whoa whoa woe?

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Speaker 4: What a yoga zen thing? What are you talking about?

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Speaker 3: Well, Nancy, I don't know if you've ever been to

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Speaker 3: a yoga class. I used to attend pretty often. But

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Speaker 3: you just at the end of class, at the beginning

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Speaker 3: of class, you put your hands together and you do

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Speaker 3: a short little bow to everyone else in the classroom

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Speaker 3: to show your respect for everyone. And that's exactly what

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Speaker 3: Colms has been doing to all eight of his lawyers

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Speaker 3: in the courtroom every morning when he comes to see them.

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Speaker 2: Sidney, you cannot live in New York City, in Manhattan

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Speaker 2: and not be subjected to a yoga class, particularly a

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Speaker 2: hot yoga class the worst.

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Speaker 1: But what you're saying is like a zen. Nama stay

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Speaker 1: oh okay, you know what?

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Speaker 2: Straight out to Lynnshaw joining me, executive director, founder of

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Speaker 2: Lynn's Lawyers, dedicated to ending s exploitation, trafficking of women

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Speaker 2: and girls. You know, Nama, stay my rear end he

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Speaker 2: can nom stay his way all the way to the MDC.

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Speaker 2: He was an all Noma stay in the middle of

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Speaker 2: all these free coughs. You know how big of a

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Speaker 2: stack they had to do, an eight hundred number for

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Speaker 2: all the women calling in claiming that they were victims.

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Speaker 1: Of Sean Comb's freak.

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Speaker 2: Offs, King Knights, Hotel Knights, whatever, whatever ephemism he wants

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Speaker 2: to use, these women claiming they were drugged in their drinks,

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Speaker 2: that they woke up covered in baby oil with their

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Speaker 2: vagina's herding, and he's allnomous day my rear end.

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Speaker 5: What a slap in the face to all victims of

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Speaker 5: any kind of sexual exploitation abuse. I mean, this is horrific.

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Speaker 5: And you know what, I'm putting my money on the

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Speaker 5: jury that everybody can see right through this, this act

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Speaker 5: of contrition, because this is horrific that he's allowed to

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Speaker 5: walk into court an Easy's being all cute and calm,

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Speaker 5: and you know what, yesterday I was saying, I don't

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Speaker 5: want to call him the nicknames. I've called him dirty

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Speaker 5: Diddy and things like that, But today I want to

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Speaker 5: go back to that because I am sick and tired

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Speaker 5: of this. Who is protecting, who is talking to, who

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Speaker 5: is giving advice counsel to these hundreds as far as

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Speaker 5: we know right, you know, victims of his probably thousands

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Speaker 5: over the years. So I'm just hoping that this playbook

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Speaker 5: of his, this dirty diddy playbook. Everybody's onto him, everybody's

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Speaker 5: sick of him. And you know what, we have to

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Speaker 5: turn that focus and hope and hope and hope that victims, survivors.

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Speaker 5: Anybody watching this this he's turning it into a laugh

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Speaker 5: you know, a laugh stockfest here, you know, some kind

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Speaker 6: This is a court of law.

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Speaker 5: He's supposed to be up for his life right and

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Speaker 5: the family and him and the lawyer singing. It's too much, Nancy,

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Speaker 5: It's just too much.

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Speaker 4: I know.

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Speaker 1: Did you hear that yesterday?

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Speaker 2: Doctor Bethany Marshall, you were with us last night when

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Speaker 2: we learned that Agnifolo, the defense attorney went on the

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Speaker 1: Her name was Lula.

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Speaker 2: He started singing copa cabana and a sex trafficking trial.

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Speaker 2: And it just threw me over the edge because I

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Speaker 2: have dealt with rape victims. You know, look around, look around.

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Speaker 2: I'm looking around the studio. At least one in four

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Speaker 1: A nama stay.

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Speaker 2: Really, he can chill out behind bars for the rest

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Speaker 1: What's the dichotomy? What is this?

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Speaker 5: Well, it's one more male and females do it to

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Speaker 5: minimizing the severity of sex trafficking. Nancy, I don't think

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Speaker 5: our nation or world really understands what sex trafficking is.

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Speaker 5: This whole question that maybe the women consented that means

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Speaker 2: I just got to tell you he's got a nerve

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Speaker 2: coming into the courtroom at all. Namasteak no stay my

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Speaker 2: rear end okay? Joining us now outside the courthouse, Tisa

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Speaker 2: tells Tisa tailstar off teas Tales on YouTube.

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Speaker 7: Tisa, what happened in court? Start at the beginning today,

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Speaker 7: Mark agnifil. It was like a roller coaster. He started

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Speaker 8: Mark Pagnaffilial started off making a beautiful argument, and then

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Speaker 8: it turned into weird blaming things that Cassie she was

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Speaker 8: no angel. He even accused Cassie of saying she was

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Speaker 6: I think he lost some of the jury.

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Speaker 8: It was very disgusting, very very nineteen sixties coded misogyny.

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Speaker 6: I don't know what happened, but it was weird.

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Speaker 8: The biggest shocker is when Mark Agnofili was making his

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Speaker 6: I'm not gonna lie. He was doing very well.

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Speaker 8: The judge letters hot for break and all of a sudden,

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Speaker 8: Marine called me shot up and I knew she met

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Speaker 8: this woman needs business. She bought up three objections and

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Speaker 8: three ways where he was grossly improper and across the line.

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Speaker 8: One implying that the jury needs to judge why we

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Speaker 6: What the law is telling them. The assault is only

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Speaker 8: This is improper, and what's more, we are demanding a

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Speaker 8: The jury was out the room. Of course, she gave

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Speaker 8: going to war with the judge, saying, well, you don't understand.

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Speaker 8: They did this and they did that, and we didn't

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Speaker 8: You should have And they're like, you know, you're bringing

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Speaker 8: The prosecution objected, and I'm now addressing that objection. The

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Speaker 8: final point of the motive is the story, and the

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Speaker 8: moral of the story is he lost complete control of

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Speaker 8: the jury after that, because when we came back from break,

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Speaker 8: the judge gave a curative instruction, telling them that don't

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Speaker 8: listen to market agnofilial about what he told you about

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Speaker 8: the government's motives. That's not your job, and moving forward,

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Speaker 8: when it comes to anything in the law, you don't

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Speaker 8: had a very chilling effect on the jury. Some of

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Speaker 8: the jury looked not puzzled. But you can tell after

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Speaker 8: that when Mark came back to do his closing, he

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Speaker 8: when he got into disgusting.

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Speaker 6: Cassie wanted it. She was in a victim land tasted tails.

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Speaker 2: Explained to me the dynamic in the courtroom during the

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Speaker 6: This is a funny thing. In the beginning, he was funny,

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Speaker 8: He has an old Harley Golly hometown lawyer in a

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Speaker 8: big city act down pack. But he went too far

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Speaker 8: with the misogyny. When they were making the jokes in

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Speaker 8: They if one of them even met him with a

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Speaker 8: he started going down on massogyny lane and actually saying that.

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Speaker 8: One of the biggest shocking things where I think he

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Speaker 8: lost a lot of the jury is when he literally,

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Speaker 8: against all odds, rerounded the Intercontinental tape and then tried

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Speaker 8: to convince us. He literally started off by saying like,

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Speaker 8: it's unclear what happened in the tape.

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Speaker 6: Could have been Cassie's, could have been Shawn's. Maybe it

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Speaker 8: And then they walked us to the tape, framed by

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Speaker 8: shocking to see. And at that point some jurors were

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Speaker 8: One person had a look of disbelief. Everybody it stopped

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Speaker 6: He was off. He kind of lost some of the timing.

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Speaker 6: So it was a lot.

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Speaker 1: Tastes of tales.

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Speaker 2: We saw the female victims dragged through the mud and

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Speaker 2: the defense closing statement stating it's quote all about the money.

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Speaker 2: But when Cassie Vanteria took the stand, the money issue

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Speaker 2: was long over. Her civil case was settled before she

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Speaker 2: took the stand, So what was her motivation to testify?

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Speaker 2: How was the jury reacting when Agnifolo referred to this

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Speaker 2: as being all about the money.

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Speaker 8: Okay, where he started off on his road to to

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Speaker 6: Off talking about Diddy and how he's self made and

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Speaker 6: blah blah blah blah blah.

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Speaker 8: And by the way, there's not many that many black

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Speaker 8: billionaires to me.

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Speaker 6: Okay, Mark, what we just let it slide, Okay.

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Speaker 8: The issue was when he literally started talking about Cassie's

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Speaker 8: and saying, Kathie's a millionaire, Cassie's fine, Caffie's not a victim,

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Speaker 8: almost applying that because she had to fight him too

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Speaker 8: for now, for that money, that we should let this

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Speaker 8: all go away. He even went so far as to say,

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Speaker 8: and I'm sure she wants to be a good mother

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Speaker 8: to her son, but we know that he's sitting there

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Speaker 8: and she's sitting there probably watching this from the house

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Speaker 8: that Sean COLEMs is paying for.

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Speaker 6: They kept putting it back the money.

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Speaker 8: Cassie's not a real victim because she has thirty million dollars.

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Speaker 6: Cassie's not a victim.

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Speaker 8: And then he started painting Cassie into this almost like

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Speaker 8: And it was really disgusting to see Pisa Tails, who

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Speaker 8: His whole family was there. Everybody was there, everybody was eager.

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Speaker 8: You know, I usually have so many fun things to

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Speaker 8: What do we think is trafficking? And at what point

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Speaker 6: She got thirty million dollars.

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Speaker 8: The displays and the misogynist narratives that Mark Agnifilial.

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Speaker 8: You will do anything, You will make a pack with

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Speaker 6: What do you have to believe? What do you believe?

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Speaker 2: After all the Anoma stay went down in the courtroom,

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Speaker 3: Well, Mark Agnippolo came up to the stand to start

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Speaker 3: The words coming out of their mouths and those these

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Speaker 2: Okay, here we go the minimization of what happened. That

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Speaker 2: Slavic exaggeration. You know, Eric Fattus, there are women on

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Speaker 1: He is the founding partner of Varner.

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Speaker 2: Fattest, elite legal and former felony prosecutor. That would be

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Speaker 9: Yeah, Nancy, there are sensitive issues in this case, clearly,

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Speaker 9: And so I think he's got to really be careful

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Speaker 2: Straight back guy to Sidney Sumner, Crime Stories investigative reporter.

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Speaker 2: I understand that Sean Comes had his son, Christian Comes

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Speaker 2: along with what his god uncle Kanye very busy last night.

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Speaker 1: Yes, they have.

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Speaker 3: Released an EP today and one of the songs on

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Speaker 3: that EP is called Biddy Free, and the lyrics say

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Speaker 3: And the lyrics actually mention you, Nancy. They don't understand,

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Speaker 3: So this isn't the first song that he's released speaking

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Speaker 2: Okay, you know that your ours get to go home

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Speaker 2: every night, they are not sequestered, and they can be

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Speaker 2: exposed to this rap song created by God help him

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Speaker 2: Christian Combs and Kanye. Why you would want your child

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Speaker 2: other cans. Let's take a look at the lyrics. Ain't

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Speaker 2: they try to play the victim, playing the victim. That's

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Speaker 2: an attack on the victims outspoken. I ain't keeping in

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Speaker 2: uh blah blah blah blah. Now you know, I noticed

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Speaker 2: says they ain't got to lose. What are they talking about?

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Speaker 2: The victims or the jurors? I ain't one of them.

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Speaker 2: And then it goes on to talk about astro what

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Speaker 2: in the tabloids?

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Speaker 1: You know what, that's a really good question.

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Speaker 2: Why comes as children have been dragged in to this?

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Speaker 1: They are being.

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Speaker 2: Used as a pr tool And now you want to

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Speaker 2: course Christ gets dragged in. It's one night. I want

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Speaker 2: B Okay, we heard the testimony, and we know about

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Speaker 1: They don't understand me.

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Speaker 2: Tell them give me grace even Nancy, and it refers

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Speaker 2: to bad Boy throughout.

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Speaker 1: That would be bad Boy records. Okay, let's hear it.

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Speaker 1: They don't understand what they stand me. Tell them give

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Speaker 1: you angry? No, I'm not. I'm full of.

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Speaker 2: Remorse for what Seawan Colmes is doing to his children.

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Speaker 2: I'm Eric fattis joining me veteran try a lawyer. Have

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Speaker 2: you ever prosperedd a case where the children, unless they

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Speaker 9: And I can't think of one really. The family often

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Speaker 9: But oftentimes, like you mentioned, the family can be brought

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Speaker 9: And I think a lot of folks think that that

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Speaker 1: Let's take one more Listen to Diddy Free.

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Speaker 2: This is released by possibly the only person in the

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Speaker 2: King comes and of course the illustrious Kanye.

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Speaker 8: They don't understand what they stand me tell him give

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Speaker 8: me grace. Even then, me and you can be mad,

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Speaker 8: I have a spat, we can have whatever.

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Speaker 6: Than I did you better get on your job. That's really,

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Speaker 6: that's all it is.

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Speaker 8: Ain't no threat.

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Speaker 6: I'm just being clear.

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Speaker 1: Get on your job, Get on your job. Get on

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Speaker 1: your job. That says to me, sex trafficking, get in

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Speaker 2: I think you a nail in half A videoed having

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Speaker 2: kiss my hard working rear in. Throughout the defense closing arguments,

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Speaker 2: Magnifilow has done exactly what we expected, dragging the victims

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Speaker 2: I always found that to be a crutch, a crutch

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Speaker 2: where you pause because you don't know what you're going

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Speaker 3: Well, Nippolo is making it seem that Cafi was not

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Speaker 3: And interestingly, Agabillo pointed to Cafie's relationship with Kid Cutty

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Speaker 3: and this was on a break. They had taken a break,

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Speaker 3: So I think it's interesting that agne Phillo was trying

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Speaker 2: Straight out to doctor beth Andy Marshall announced psycho analyst

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Speaker 2: adjoining out of the Beverly Hills jurisdiction.

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Speaker 1: She's the author of deal Breakers.

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Speaker 2: You can see her now on Peacock and you can

437
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Speaker 2: find her at doctor Bethanymarshall dot com. Could I see

438
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:12,159
Speaker 2: the video please, New York Control Room. Here's all the

439
00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:17,280
Speaker 2: love Agnifilo is talking about. There's one person that at

440
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:20,200
Speaker 2: the get go look the other way. He tried.

441
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:23,760
Speaker 1: He tried to get Cassie Ventira to file a police report.

442
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:25,040
Speaker 1: She wouldn't.

443
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:29,240
Speaker 2: She just wanted to leave. Here's the love. There you go.

444
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:33,240
Speaker 2: What about that, Doctor Bethany Marshall. There's all the love

445
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:36,080
Speaker 2: Agnifilos talking about enclosing statements.

446
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:39,280
Speaker 5: Magnifilo better mind his p's and q's with the jurors,

447
00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:41,879
Speaker 5: because jurors are real people, just like you and I,

448
00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:45,480
Speaker 5: and they can feel insulted by these kinds of arguments.

449
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:48,359
Speaker 5: By now, we all know a sex trafficking that the

450
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:52,600
Speaker 5: initial stage of the trafficker in trapping the victim, is

451
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:56,880
Speaker 5: pretending that it's a love relationship. But it quickly deteriorates

452
00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:00,879
Speaker 5: when they start to share sexual fantasies. The victim of

453
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:03,880
Speaker 5: being with other people, the victim initially believes that they're

454
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 5: pleasing their boyfriend. Then it escalates to violence, which is

455
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 5: what we're talking about right now. Cassie had a burner

456
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:13,879
Speaker 5: phone because she was afraid for her life, and for

457
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:18,200
Speaker 5: good reason. Allegedly pitt Daddy went and threw a molotov

458
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:21,600
Speaker 5: or had one of his staff throw molotov cocktail into

459
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 5: Kid Cuttie's car. Of course she had a burner phone.

460
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:29,480
Speaker 5: She's not stupid. She wanted to protect them and serve

461
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:30,080
Speaker 5: their life.

462
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Speaker 2: As much as I would love to talk about the

463
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:36,960
Speaker 2: Molotov cocktail on k Cutty's car that obviously Sean Combs

464
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:40,119
Speaker 2: did with his designer scarf as a wick, I'm talking

465
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:44,320
Speaker 2: about love right now, all the love that we're seeing.

466
00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:48,080
Speaker 2: To Eric Fattis, let me talk to you about all

467
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:52,200
Speaker 2: the love that Agnifilo is describing to the jury as

468
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,560
Speaker 2: if what they should believe him instead of their lyon

469
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:57,040
Speaker 2: eyes when they saw that beat down at the Intercontinental.

470
00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:01,640
Speaker 2: Here's the thing before the so much close circuit TV

471
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:07,640
Speaker 2: security cams, doorbell cams, you name it. Right. Very often,

472
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:11,399
Speaker 2: the defense could get away with so much because it

473
00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:14,480
Speaker 2: wasn't on video. And I would have to argue, the

474
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 2: jury's what do you want a video? Because there's not

475
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:22,120
Speaker 2: a video. These things happen behind closed doors. You have

476
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 2: to decide who you believe him or her, right, And

477
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:30,919
Speaker 2: I would argue, think about it, who's got skin in

478
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:34,000
Speaker 2: the game, Who's got something to lose?

479
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:38,120
Speaker 1: He is looking at life.

480
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:42,240
Speaker 2: Behind bars, he's got a dog in the fight. So

481
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:46,719
Speaker 2: think about that when you weigh credibility. Who is telling

482
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:51,120
Speaker 2: the truth? Who to believe? But now we have the video,

483
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:58,920
Speaker 2: so Agnifello Wait, so Agnifilo is actually arguing.

484
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:02,640
Speaker 1: She loved him and he loved her.

485
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 2: So what are they supposed to just erase that video

486
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,919
Speaker 2: out of their mind because we have the video?

487
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 9: Yeah?

488
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:09,960
Speaker 1: Exactly.

489
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Speaker 9: I mean here, the defense can't really, you know, sort

490
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:18,400
Speaker 9: of fabricate something about a really rosy and nice relationship

491
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 9: and rainbows and sunshine and everything else. You look at

492
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:25,200
Speaker 9: the video and clearly it's much more complicated than that.

493
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 9: That being said, defense has no choice but to go

494
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 9: after Cassie's credibility. There have been some inconsistent statements, and

495
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 9: that is the defense.

496
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 2: See love Story with Ryan O'Neill and Allen McGrath.

497
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 1: Did you ever see it?

498
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 2: That's a yes, no, simple yes, no fadus No, well,

499
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 2: maybe you need to brush up on love story. You

500
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 2: can even just listen to the song, Okay, and that

501
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 2: really is what Agnifilo's closing argument is. Okay, Lynn, I

502
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 2: know you're sitting down, but you may need to lay down.

503
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 2: Sidney Soner correct me if I'm wrong, because this morning

504
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:07,720
Speaker 2: in a very bold strategy.

505
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 1: Let me just say ephemistically.

506
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 2: Agnifilo calls the relationship between Combs and Ventura a great

507
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 2: modern love story. No, no, I don't know if that's

508
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 2: bold or just damn stupid. There's really no other way

509
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 2: to put that. He also told the jurors that the

510
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 2: couple's text messages, many of them, of course, were sexually graphic,

511
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 2: were some of the quote most beautiful things I've ever read. Okay,

512
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 2: can we start with a great modern love story?

513
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 5: When I'm almost speechless, but I'm going to try to

514
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 5: just pull myself up and go through this. First of all,

515
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:53,240
Speaker 5: I did see Love Story, actually saw it in a

516
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:54,720
Speaker 5: movie theater. I was a kid, but I saw it

517
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 5: in the movie theater. Women Love Women love to get beaten,

518
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 5: you know, pulled by their ne their hair, they're hoodie.

519
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 1: They love to get kicked.

520
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 5: When they're down. And you know what, this is the

521
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 5: same all playbook. I am such a broken record here

522
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 5: that we see every time I'm in court with victims

523
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 5: the justice system, they're always blaming them. That's what they

524
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 5: do because they have nothing else. The strongest piece of evidence,

525
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 5: in my opinion, is this video right here. And you

526
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 5: know what, I woke up thinking about something today, Nancy,

527
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 5: And I hope you just indulge me for a minute.

528
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 5: You know, right now, everybody knows in public spaces and hotels,

529
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 5: we have cameras. So this guy isn't concerned at all

530
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:35,320
Speaker 5: with kicking her, beating her, dragging her, knowing, knowing, probably

531
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 5: knowing there are cameras. You know what he's concerned with.

532
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 5: It occurred to me, he's concerned with holding his towel up.

533
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 5: Have you noticed he has his hand on it. He

534
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 5: tucks it in at one point, not concerned with the beating,

535
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 5: holding his towel up, and Nancy, I'm going somewhere I

536
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 5: never thought I would go. He's afraid for his towel

537
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 5: to fall off off and I think you might have

538
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 5: that prop somewhere around you because he doesn't want people

539
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 5: to see his body. He doesn't care he's beating a

540
00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 5: woman and we're all seeing it. We have video evans

541
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 5: about keeping that. There you go. I thought I'd never

542
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 5: go here, Nancy, but I have to go there because

543
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 5: I woke up thinking about it. He's more concerned that

544
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 5: we don't see that t R. I don't want to

545
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 5: say the whole thing because this is a family program.

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00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 4: That's what some.

547
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 2: People were all so far to refer to it as

548
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 2: a little raisin. But that said, he does I don't

549
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 2: know anything about that. Well, he's holding that towel. He's

550
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 2: not concerned about beating. But can I can I get

551
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 2: your take on uh hey, wait wait for this. I'm

552
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 2: just wondering if the women, especially on the jurior, are like, what.

553
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 1: Is he saying?

554
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 6: Yes?

555
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 1: Has he lost his mind?

556
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 2: You know that's that's a sign when I have to

557
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:42,720
Speaker 2: say has he lost his mind? This many times in

558
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 2: one trial, referring to the defense attorney another thing, Agnifolo argued,

559
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 2: in addition to the horribly hey, can we show the

560
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:59,720
Speaker 2: bruises on Cassie's side? These are just some of the

561
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 2: brew uses. This is the loving relationship we're talking about now, Okay.

562
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 2: To doctor Bethany Marshall, Agnifilo calls the relationship between Combs

563
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 2: and his victim, Casi Ventira a quote great modern love story.

564
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 2: He also says that their texts referring to free coughs

565
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 2: and graphic sex were a quote, some of the most

566
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 2: beautiful things I've ever read.

567
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 1: Poor thing.

568
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 2: He obviously did not take English literature in college. But also,

569
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 2: you're sitting down right, Bethany. Okay, Because Agnifilo argues to

570
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 2: the jury, wait for it. Combs and Ventor were, quote

571
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 2: their best selves when it came to sex. It was

572
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 2: a relationship based on love and intensity.

573
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 1: You mean the intensity of his right hook.

574
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 6: Best sex.

575
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 5: Us of sex worker urinating in her mouth, mouth sores, vomiting.

576
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 6: I don't think so.

577
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 5: Remember Scott Peterson, the one in the Midwest, the police

578
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 5: officer who wrote a Valentine's note to his wife saying

579
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 5: nothing says I love you like a glock and then

580
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 5: she ended up dead. That's where violence and love get

581
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 5: confused as one and the same. Violence and love are

582
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 5: not the same thing at all. They're very different. They're

583
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 5: different properties, they're different attachment styles. I see no evidence

584
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 5: of love in this relationship, none at all. Why would

585
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 5: Cassie love somebody who abuses her? In fact, I think

586
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 5: it's more of the Stockholm syndrome. These supposed love letters

587
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 5: are when the victim is just happy that the perpetrator

588
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 5: hasn't killed them. They feel inordinately grateful to still be alive,

589
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 5: and then they placate the abuse, sir, so that they

590
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,959
Speaker 5: will not be abused again. That's not a love letter, Nancy,

591
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 5: that's a sex traffic victim trying to keep herself safe.

592
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.

593
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 5: P did he was walking on sunshine today, Twinkle Tools

594
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 5: just dancing into fair feeling extremely confident going into closing argument,

595
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:30,839
Speaker 5: and they're acting like he is going to get away

596
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 5: with something here.

597
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:33,839
Speaker 6: This is a man that thinks he's going to walk away.

598
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:36,959
Speaker 2: Straight back to Crime Stori's investigative reporter on the case

599
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 2: from the beginning, Sidney Sumner joining us. Okay, so in

600
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 2: closing arguments this morning, a niffelo hit and he hit hard,

601
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:52,319
Speaker 2: basically conjuring up the love song of love Story with

602
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 2: Ryan O'Neill and Alan McGraw, Right, could you please refresh

603
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:59,800
Speaker 2: your recollections on what he actually fixed his mouth to

604
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 2: say to the journey.

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00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 3: His words exactly were a great modern love story, describes

606
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 3: the relationship between Sean Cones and Cassy Ventura, and he

607
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:14,800
Speaker 3: said that their text messages were some of the most

608
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 3: beautiful things I've ever read.

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00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 2: Okay, Doctor Bethany Marshall, Doctor bethany, Where do I begin

610
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:25,759
Speaker 2: to tell the story of how great a love can be?

611
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:29,799
Speaker 2: The sweet love story that is older than the sea,

612
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,719
Speaker 2: the simple truth about the love she brings to me?

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00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 2: Where do I start?

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00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:35,760
Speaker 1: See?

615
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:40,720
Speaker 2: That's the problem right there, what Agniffil is doing right there,

616
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:49,800
Speaker 2: He is transplanting love onto vicious beatings where the victims

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00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 2: would get mouth sores, stomach ailments, STDs that were so

618
00:35:57,040 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 2: strong that antibiotics would work on them anymore. The beatings,

619
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 2: the draggings, the slices to the head, and he calls

620
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 2: this the greatest love story he's ever sane. Is anybody

621
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 2: buying that that's why women continue to be beaten and killed?

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00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 5: He's saying it was a great love story. We can

623
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 5: all see that there was no love there at all.

624
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 5: But you know, Agnifilo is actually engaging in a logic

625
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:33,320
Speaker 5: flaw because let's say there was love, which there wasn't,

626
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 5: that doesn't matter in terms of the charges. All that

627
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 5: has to be proven is that once he used force,

628
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 5: fraud or coersion to get somebody to perform sex acts.

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00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:47,239
Speaker 5: So why does it matter if there was a great

630
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:50,319
Speaker 5: love story, which we know there wasn't. But most of all,

631
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 5: this this just serves as a huge disservice to women.

632
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 5: And I think it's interesting that a man is making

633
00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:01,360
Speaker 5: this argument. Doesn't he have daughter's sisters, a mother. Doesn't

634
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 5: he know what sex abuse is. I know he's just

635
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 5: trying to mount a defense, but I don't know how

636
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:11,879
Speaker 5: he could get up there and just lie. It's so

637
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 5: so unfortunate. It's like he's manipulating the jury.

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00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 2: Another thing that we must keep in mind is the

639
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:22,360
Speaker 2: state has the right to a rebuttal argument.

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00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 10: Explain very quickly, Eric Faddus. Because the state has the burden.

641
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 10: They get essentially two closing arguments, an initial one and

642
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:31,319
Speaker 10: then the defense goes and then the state goes again,

643
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 10: and it really has to be responsive to the defense's

644
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 10: argument and encountering some of the points defense makes during

645
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 10: their closing argument.

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Speaker 2: Guys, the world has known what was happening behind closed

647
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 2: doors forever. The fans finally acted when Cassie Venturer bought

648
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,839
Speaker 2: a civil lawsuit and got a settlement of twenty million dollars.

649
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:57,880
Speaker 2: The very next day, Seawan comes issuing a pathetic, sad

650
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Speaker 2: seck apology that win out on his insta. I mean

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Speaker 2: even Eminem rapped about it. Listen, well, I'm like so many.

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Speaker 1: He didn't just fail the word rapper and the avout.

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Speaker 2: Did he. He didn't just say raper, did he? I mean,

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Speaker 2: come on, he is rapping about it. He's waving it

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Speaker 2: right under the Fed's noses. Everybody knew. Okay, uh, what

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Speaker 2: about this on Conan? And this was years before these charges.

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Speaker 1: When you go to a hotel, anytime you go to

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Speaker 1: a hotel, you don't just check in the way everybody

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Speaker 1: else does. You send someone ahead to prepare the hotel

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Speaker 1: room for you. It's called preparing the sexy.

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Speaker 2: Of course, as we learned at trial, the people really

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Speaker 2: preparing the sexy as he refers to it, or the

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Speaker 2: minions translation in legal terms, all of the employees and

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Speaker 2: co defendance, co conspirators that create a c i'minal enterprise.

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Speaker 2: Now that was from our friends at late night with

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Speaker 2: Conan O'Brien.

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Speaker 6: And there's more if we work hard, and I just

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Speaker 6: like I like my room.

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Speaker 1: To be sexy. Sure, you like to prepare the sexy,

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Speaker 1: is what you're saying. You can't just count on the sexy,

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Speaker 1: prepare the sex sy.

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Speaker 8: You have to make sure you go, you go through

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Speaker 8: the proper measures to make sure that you're sexy is there.

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Speaker 6: When you are arrived.

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Speaker 1: Can you say criminal enterprise?

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Speaker 2: All of the employees that had to clean up the

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Speaker 2: free costs one involved two slipping falls. The oil, the

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Speaker 2: baby oil was so deep and thick in the room.

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Speaker 2: Again from our friends at late Night with Conan O'Brien

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Speaker 2: and wait for it comes even goes on National TV

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Speaker 2: and jokes about locking women in the hotel room.

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Speaker 8: If you don't have what they need, they're gonna leave, right,

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Speaker 8: Gotta keep them there, right, need locks on the doors.

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Speaker 1: Okay, this is sounding kind of dangerous. Now that's a

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Speaker 1: little kinky.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, again from our friends at late Night with

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Speaker 2: ConA O'Brien, Doctor bethany Many, a true word is spoken

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Speaker 2: in jest.

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Speaker 1: I mean all of the predictors were there.

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Speaker 5: This is a true confession. And if it had been

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Speaker 5: a female host. Do you think she would jokingly say

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Speaker 5: this sounds dangerous. She would look at him and say

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Speaker 5: this is inappropriate. So I'm really concerned about how men

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Speaker 5: are conspiring in the situation to minimize what is happening.

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Speaker 5: You know that Eminem's song Nancy, he's not minimizing it.

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Speaker 5: He is calling Sean Combs out because Eminem has a

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Speaker 5: daughter he loves, Hayley. Eminem is very protective of women.

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Speaker 5: So here he's outing p Diddy and nobody pays attention.

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Speaker 5: It's like a societal collusion on the fact that women

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Speaker 5: should be oppressed in this way.

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Speaker 2: You know, it brings to mind to Sidney Sumner, Crime

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Speaker 2: Story's investigative reporter, that moment of testimony, and if I

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Speaker 2: were the prosecut in this case, I would be beaten

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Speaker 2: on this with a hammer. If I had a hammerman,

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Speaker 2: I'd be singing out in the courtroom where Cassie Ventura

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Speaker 2: in the middle of a beating, people were just standing

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Speaker 2: around doing nothing. And she looked at them and to me,

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Speaker 2: this is a poignant moment of his trial.

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Speaker 1: And she said, can't you see what he's doing?

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Speaker 2: To me? Why aren't you doing anything? And I would

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Speaker 2: put it to that jury. Are you going to be

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Speaker 2: one of them? Why aren't you doing anything convict him?

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Speaker 2: Do you remember that moment in trial, Sidney Sumner, Absolutely.

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Speaker 3: That was former assistant George Kaplan testifying about one of

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Speaker 3: the violent incidents he witnessed that led to him quitting,

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Speaker 3: leaving this job, saying I can't be a part of this.

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Speaker 3: And that was on a twenty fifteen flight to Las

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Speaker 3: Vegas on Comb's private jets, and Caplan said that he

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Speaker 3: heard the sound of glass shattering, and he turned to

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Speaker 3: look at the couple and he saw Cassy laying with

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Speaker 3: her back on the ground, powering, covering her face with

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Speaker 3: her hands, and Cones was standing over her, holding a

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Speaker 3: whiskey glass over his head, poised to like throw this

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Speaker 3: at Cathy's face. And in this standoff, Cassey screamed out,

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Speaker 3: isn't anybody seeing this? Because there's other security guards Kaplin's

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Speaker 3: on this flight. They were not alone on this plane

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Speaker 3: with Kaplan, and multiple people saw this and did nothing.

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Speaker 1: We are headed to a verdict.

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Speaker 2: Watch here at crime Stories as we wait for justice

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Speaker 2: to unfold in the Monahan Federal Courthouse, we remember an

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Speaker 2: American hero, Sergeant J. D. White, Angleton PD, just fifty one,

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Speaker 2: killed in a line of duty. Served nineteen years.

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Speaker 1: In LA law enforcement.

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Speaker 2: Lie's behind a grieving wife, Amy and children Jonathan, Austin

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Speaker 2: and Rachel American hero J D.

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Speaker 8: White.

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Speaker 1: Nancy Grace signing off goodbye friend,