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Watch Unstoppable now exclusively on Amazon Prime Video. 9 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:45,839 Speaker 2: Welcome in episode two seventeen, What's right with Nick Wright? 10 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 2: Apologies on the front end for my voice. So here's 11 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 2: the deal. This happens every year that the Chiefs have 12 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 2: a parade. I for the better part of three hours, 13 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 2: shake hands and take pictures with you know, a thousand 14 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 2: people maybe, and then I get on an airplane, I 15 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:09,040 Speaker 2: come back to New York, and I'm a little sick, 16 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 2: and so I typically would maybe not be doing the 17 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 2: show today, but this is our first show since the Prey, 18 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:24,959 Speaker 2: and I want to talk about it, and so we 19 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 2: talked about it some on the TV show. I then 20 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 2: did a bit of a Kansas City media tour on 21 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:39,199 Speaker 2: Friday when we didn't have the TV show, and we're 22 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 2: in the A bloc here, not going to really talk sports. 23 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:46,760 Speaker 2: We're going to talk about my experience there in some 24 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 2: ways to move forward and the ways to move forward. 25 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 2: I'm going to steal from Jason Kandor, who was in 26 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 2: the US military for very long time, ran for US 27 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:08,359 Speaker 2: Senate in Missouri, lost a very close election, then was 28 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 2: running for mayor against my friend Quentin Lucas and dropped 29 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:16,359 Speaker 2: out of the mayoral race as he had to deal 30 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:20,640 Speaker 2: with some PTSD from his time in the military. And 31 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 2: he went on my buddy Laslow's radio show and podcast 32 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 2: and presented a way forward on the scourge of gun 33 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 2: violence in America that does not involve passing new laws, 34 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 2: but instead involves repealing one. 35 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 3: Law we already have. 36 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 2: And I think it's a really sharp and smart way 37 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 2: to address it. And so we'll do that. But Demanse's 38 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:58,079 Speaker 2: here with us. Demanse's in la and Demonse, you feel 39 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 2: free to jump in at any point, and we are. 40 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 2: I'm gonna give a little anecdote from this weekend, and 41 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 2: then I'm gonna go back to the parade and then 42 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 2: we're gonna bounce around a bit. So this weekend I 43 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 2: took Deanna, our youngest, to off Broadway show called The 44 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:32,080 Speaker 2: Play That Goes Wrong, and it's actually really well done. 45 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 2: It's won a bunch of awards, and the concept behind 46 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 2: it is it's supposed to be a regular play, but 47 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 2: everything imaginable goes wrong, and that's intentional. I'm not gonna 48 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 2: explain the play to you, but it's funny and it's 49 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 2: well done. And in the midst of it, about forty 50 00:03:54,680 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 2: percent halfway through the play, thereabouts off screen or off stage, 51 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 2: I should say, a murder takes place and there are 52 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 2: three loud gunshots that you hear and I knew, I mean, 53 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 2: the play that they're doing is called like the Murder 54 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 2: at Whatever Place man or maversham manor or something, and 55 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 2: you knew something like this was coming. And those three 56 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 2: gunshots wrung out and I flinched in like a very 57 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:36,599 Speaker 2: defined way, and I was like, oh, that's the kind of, 58 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 2: for lack of a better term, shrapnel from what had 59 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:46,039 Speaker 2: happened Wednesday, Like the me that was somewhere in my 60 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 2: brain the last time I had heard something like that 61 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 2: was when we were scurrying off the stage at the 62 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 2: parade and we heard a very distinct gunshot and the 63 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 2: fox secure folks, who I can you know, I will 64 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 2: continue to say what a brilliant job they did, said 65 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:09,280 Speaker 2: get down somewhere in my brain that like really impacted 66 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 2: and affected me. And so when I heard it again, 67 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 2: even though, like you know, I'm in a Broadway show 68 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 2: and that's part of the show, I wasn't really expecting it, 69 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:21,799 Speaker 2: and my heart raced and I flinched, and it was weird. 70 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 2: And I'm a near forty year old man who didn't 71 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 2: see any of the actual shooting and didn't see any 72 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 2: of the actual victims, and it had an impact on me. 73 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 2: And so I have spent a lot of the time 74 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 2: since the parade talking about us failing our kids and 75 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 2: the young people who have had, you know, preparing for 76 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 2: these events and knowing what to do in all of 77 00:05:55,480 --> 00:06:00,080 Speaker 2: that just be part of how they grow up. And 78 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:05,159 Speaker 2: I apologize that I'm kind of taking a circuitous path here, 79 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 2: but I promise I'll layd the plane that we we 80 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:16,719 Speaker 2: have a couple different types of reactions to these types 81 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 2: of incidents. If it's like the one in Kansas City 82 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 2: where it appears to be gang violence that spills out 83 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 2: into what I would call the general population outside of 84 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 2: where we as a society have accepted that gang violence 85 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 2: will take place. The reaction is throw the book at them, 86 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:49,159 Speaker 2: police the streets, keep the criminals in jail, all that stuff. 87 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 3: And when it is. 88 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 2: The type of shooting that is very unique to America. 89 00:06:57,560 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 3: The lone. 90 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 2: Wall usually seventeen to twenty eight year old loner guy 91 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 2: who loses his mind or has been radicalized by the Internet, 92 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 2: or you know, any of the above, we go to 93 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 2: mental health. We say we need to do more on 94 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 2: that front. And the mental health thing really really irritates me, because, 95 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 2: while yes, I wish we had vastly more mental health resources, 96 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 2: it is I find it wildly and offensively disingenuous to 97 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 2: claim to care about mental health and want to prioritize 98 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 2: that and not recognize the mental health damage we're doing 99 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 2: to a generation of kids. If I, as a near 100 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 2: forty year old man, was it a play five days 101 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 2: later and heard a couple obviously cinematic gunshots, and my 102 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 2: heart raised and I flinched. What about the thousands of 103 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 2: kids at that parade? What about them and what does 104 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 2: that do to their mental health? What does that do 105 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 2: to their ability to be happy, healthy, well adjusted kids. 106 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 2: And the answer is we it's now been a problem 107 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 2: in America for long enough and enough people have been 108 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:51,439 Speaker 2: a party to some type of mass shooting incident that tragically, 109 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 2: we might have the data to actually do a proper 110 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 2: sample sized study to see the mental health damage that 111 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 2: active shooter drills and that being on the periphery much 112 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 2: less in the mix of a mass shooting incident what 113 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 2: it does to people. But claiming to care about mental 114 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 2: health and then sticking your fingers in your ear and 115 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 2: failing to recognize the damage this uniquely American epidemic has 116 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 2: to do with mental health or has impacts people's mental health, 117 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:43,560 Speaker 2: I find offensive, and so I will admit I have 118 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 2: very extreme feelings. And this is where people will get mad, 119 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 2: and that's fine. People are allowed to disagree. I have 120 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 2: very very extreme feelings on guns in this country. I 121 00:09:56,440 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 2: do not believe it to be a constitutional right. I 122 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 2: do not believe that the way in my lifetime the 123 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 2: Second Amendment has been understood and interpreted by the courts 124 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 2: is correct. Flatly, I think it is. I think the 125 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:24,679 Speaker 2: fact that we have totally disregarded the fact that the 126 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 2: first four words of the Second Amendment is a well 127 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:35,679 Speaker 2: regulated militia. It is not well regulated, and it is 128 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:38,560 Speaker 2: not a militia. The fact that we have just thrown 129 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 2: that out, I think is a crime. Okay, so I 130 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:48,680 Speaker 2: will admit, though I am on the extremes there, I 131 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:53,839 Speaker 2: think it is a logical fallacy. I think that if 132 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 2: we are really talking about if you believe the reason 133 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 2: you have a right to an ar is because you 134 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 2: must protect yourself against a tyrannical government, well then shouldn't 135 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:16,960 Speaker 2: you then also have the rights to any weapons you 136 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 2: can afford fully automatic machine guns, uh, drones, smart bombs, 137 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 2: that's what the government's working with, the government comes for you. 138 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:36,079 Speaker 2: They've got they've got suitcase nukes, guys. And so if 139 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:38,479 Speaker 2: we're going to take it to its furthest logical conclusion, 140 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 2: and it is no, it is our inalienable rights to 141 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 2: be able to be able to take on the first 142 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 2: infantry if they come for us, Well then we then 143 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 2: you know, nukes at trade shows to go along with 144 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:01,560 Speaker 2: tanks if you can afford it, right, And I don't 145 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 2: think many people actually believe we have those rights. So 146 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 2: I think the Second Amendment is consistently misinterpreted. But I've 147 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 2: lost that argument. The courts have lost that decided. I've 148 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:20,840 Speaker 2: lost that argument. The politicians, even the politicians I support, 149 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 2: have decided they don't want to have that argument. And 150 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 2: the guns and the gun lobby and the gun owners 151 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:32,439 Speaker 2: have won that argument. So how do we move forward? 152 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 2: And this is where I give Jason Candor and Laslow 153 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 2: credit for starting this conversation, which is, instead of adding 154 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 2: a law, repealing a law, because there was a law 155 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 2: that was passed nearly twenty years ago, the PLCAA, the 156 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:03,679 Speaker 2: Protection of Lawful in Arms Act, And what that law 157 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 2: did was make it illegal to sue gun manufacturers. It 158 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 2: made it you, you do not have the rights in 159 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 2: America now to sue a gun manufacturer unless the gun malfunctions. 160 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:34,080 Speaker 2: And what that law has, in my opinion, and again 161 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 2: Jason Kandor wrote an article about this, did podcasts about it, 162 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 2: and people should check it out. It has allowed the 163 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 2: gun manufacturers to operate in an area somewhat outside of 164 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 2: capitalism where they do not have to put in the 165 00:13:57,120 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 2: protections or safeguards that every other industry does, because they 166 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 2: don't have to be worried about being held to account 167 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 2: in a multi billion dollar civil lawsuit. Now, removing this 168 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 2: law would not guarantee anything. You wouldn't guarantee you would 169 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 2: win your lawsuit. Wouldn't guarantee any of those things. But 170 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 2: what it would do is guarantee that you would have 171 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 2: a chance to find out, Okay, are they marketing these 172 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 2: guns to children through the discovery process of a lawsuit. 173 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 2: Do they have smart gun technology that they easily could 174 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 2: be implemented that they're choosing not to because it would 175 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 2: cost an extra twelve bucks a gun and they've decided 176 00:14:52,640 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 2: not worth it. And so to use an analogous situation demonse, 177 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 2: you're not old enough to remember this, But when I 178 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 2: was around eighteen years old, anybody, and I'm very, very 179 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 2: very fortunate that I didn't get hooked on this. Anybody 180 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 2: who wanted oxy could get it. It was handed out 181 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 2: like candy in at clubs parties. Yes, anybody that wanted 182 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 2: oxy could get it. It was that ubiquitous. And the reason, 183 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 2: and it's the cause of the opioid epidemic, or a big. 184 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 3: Cause of it. 185 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 2: The reason that changed was because the opioid makers got 186 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 2: sued into oblivion. They lost billions and billions of dollars 187 00:15:55,560 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 2: in lawsuits, and because of that they ran you related themselves. 188 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 2: And because my dream of a proper interpretation of the 189 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 2: Second Amendment, that ship seems to have sailed. We are 190 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 2: just we are just gonna pretend that there is nothing 191 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 2: you can do when you just need to look to 192 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 2: any other country in the world to see, well, there's 193 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 2: obvious things you can do. And my dream of a 194 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 2: gun buy back program and it not being legal for 195 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 2: individual citizens to possess these types of weapons, that's gone. 196 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 2: But without this law, would these gun companies start to 197 00:16:56,240 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 2: operate in their own financial best interests and create their 198 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:09,679 Speaker 2: own gun registry and to enforce their own background checks, 199 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 2: And Candor speculated they might create their own insurance companies 200 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 2: about having to purchase your own gun insurance. They might 201 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 2: because the fear of being sued into oblivion because you 202 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:41,120 Speaker 2: knowingly and wantonly marketed these guns to kids, to people 203 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 2: who you knew were mentally unstable, sold them to people 204 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 2: with a history of domestic violence, all those things. If 205 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 2: they just had to worry about being held to account, 206 00:17:57,640 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 2: how much would that change things? How much would that 207 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:13,359 Speaker 2: change how they operate because what we know is that 208 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 2: this will simply keep happening and we will simply continue 209 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 2: on the path of everyone at this point having either 210 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 2: been on the receiving end or the I guess giving 211 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 2: end of a wellness check. And it's a tragic state 212 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:59,119 Speaker 2: of affairs. And I'm gonna tell one anecdote that I 213 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 2: did not tell on the TV show, but I'm gonna 214 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 2: tell it now, and then we're gonna move on. When 215 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:15,879 Speaker 2: I talk about what this is doing to our kids, 216 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:23,199 Speaker 2: and I demands I apologize on the front end, I 217 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 2: don't know how this is going to impact or affect you. So, yeah, 218 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 2: maybe should have told you this beforehand. So the Wednesday, 219 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 2: So the parade happens Wednesday, and and just just put 220 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 2: me on camera, please. The parade happens Wednesday. And again 221 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 2: we were fine, right, we were fine. We literally had 222 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 2: security with us. We we were fine. 223 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 3: That I am. 224 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 2: Of the eight hundred thousand people there, there were hundreds 225 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 2: of thousands, I would say, in more danger than I was. Okay, 226 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:08,359 Speaker 2: So this is not a woe is me. 227 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 3: This is just. 228 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:15,959 Speaker 2: Despite that, this is the impact it has on our 229 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:24,119 Speaker 2: on our people, especially our young people. So Deanna was 230 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 2: saying with my mom. And you know, I sent the 231 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 2: text before they had even seen the news. Demante didn't 232 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 2: even know yet. Diora didn't even. 233 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 3: Know yet that it had happened. 234 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 2: And I sent the text, were fine because I did 235 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:42,959 Speaker 2: not want you guys to see the news and not 236 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 2: be able to, you know, not know what was going on. 237 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 2: But your mom's phone hadn't been working great at the parade. 238 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:56,440 Speaker 2: And then when we got back to the hotel, your 239 00:20:56,440 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 2: mom laid down taken nap and I called my mom 240 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:09,360 Speaker 2: and face timed her, and your little sister, who's ten 241 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 2: years old, said, I was. I was outside of the hotel, 242 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 2: I was walking around. I paced when I'm on the phone, 243 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 2: and your little sister said, hey, can I talk to 244 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:24,919 Speaker 2: mommy And I said, na, she's taking a nap. She 245 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 2: said no, let me talk to mommy. And I said, 246 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 2: she's taking a nap. It's been a tough day, you know. 247 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 3: Sorry. 248 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 2: She was like okay, and I was like, if she 249 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:38,159 Speaker 2: wakes up before you know, you go to bed, we'll call. 250 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 2: And that was that. And then the next day, Deanna 251 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:48,879 Speaker 2: and I went to dinner and she told me that 252 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 2: when we got off the phone, she was worried that 253 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:59,159 Speaker 2: I was lying to her that her mom had been shot, 254 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 2: and I want to tell her and that while is 255 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 2: irrational from an adult's perspective, I get it. It is 256 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 2: for whatever. And again we were on the furthest periphery, 257 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 2: but for kids, this is now something she carries. And 258 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 2: if we are just okay that that is going to 259 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 2: be the world in which we live, then I don't 260 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 2: even want to say so be it, because I'm not. 261 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 2: But don't you fucking dare ever tell me again you 262 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:45,880 Speaker 2: care about mental health or you care about you know, 263 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 2: the youth of America. Because we are opting into living 264 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:03,880 Speaker 2: like this and acting as if there is no possible 265 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:09,920 Speaker 2: solution when every other developed country in the world has 266 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 2: figured it out. Is not acceptable. All right, talk a 267 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 2: little sports, come back with her? All right, welcome back 268 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 2: in What's Try to Think Right, Episode two seventeen. So 269 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 2: the major story from this weekend obviously was one of 270 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 2: the worst All Star Games ever played. Uh And I 271 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:43,359 Speaker 2: I think that this is mostly the media's fault, And 272 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 2: by that I mean people respond to incentives. We have 273 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:56,920 Speaker 2: changed NBA coverage in a way to where true we 274 00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:06,200 Speaker 2: reward truly nothing nothing, pardon me other than postseason performance 275 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:13,360 Speaker 2: and success. There is nothing about the journey that we 276 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:20,680 Speaker 2: find cool that we talk about it being worthwhile, and 277 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:28,639 Speaker 2: so players have responded accordingly. Players initially responded with load management, 278 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 2: and teams were obviously a big piece of that, which was, well, 279 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:37,640 Speaker 2: why would I care about playing seventy eight games if 280 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:41,199 Speaker 2: that's going to make me ten percent less fresh for 281 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:44,919 Speaker 2: the postseason when all that you guys are going to 282 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 2: talk about my legacy? Where I rank, how good I 283 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 2: am is based on how I do in the postseason. 284 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:57,639 Speaker 2: And so of course, a you know, a casualty of 285 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 2: that is going to be the All Star Game. Once 286 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:07,160 Speaker 2: upon a time, NBA media rewarded guys who kicked ass 287 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 2: in All Star Games. It was part of their legacy. 288 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 2: It wasn't a huge part, but it was part of it. 289 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 2: How you looked in the closing minutes of these All 290 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:22,440 Speaker 2: Star Games. It no longer is. It's now totally irrelevant. 291 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 2: It's now not If I were to say out loud 292 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:35,880 Speaker 2: on TV, hey, guys, Lebron has more All Star Game 293 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:39,200 Speaker 2: points than anyone in history by a mile, I would 294 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:42,439 Speaker 2: be laughed at. People would say, are you kidding me? 295 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:46,880 Speaker 2: How many rings does he have. If somebody said, hey, 296 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:51,399 Speaker 2: part of dame now his resume is he won an 297 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:54,880 Speaker 2: All Star Game MVP, people would say that's the most 298 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 2: ridiculous thing I've ever heard. The guys never even won 299 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:00,360 Speaker 2: a game in the conference finals. 300 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 3: So. 301 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 2: I if they If you actually want to fix the 302 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 2: All Star Game, Demanse, I think the answer is pretty simple. 303 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:16,720 Speaker 2: The winning conference gets home court advantage in the finals. 304 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 2: It's what Baseball did with their All Star Game. You 305 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 2: can say that's unfair, but I don't know how unfair 306 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:30,399 Speaker 2: it is, because here's the thing. The East and the 307 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 2: West play unbalanced schedules as is, so having a fifty 308 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 2: eight win Eastern Conference team have home court advantage over 309 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 2: a fifty six win Western Conference team in a year. 310 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:49,399 Speaker 2: If the West is the deeper, tougher conference, that wasn't 311 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:56,960 Speaker 2: quote fair unquote to begin with. And folks can say, well, still, 312 00:26:57,080 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 2: some guys won't care. Well, then those guys will don't play. 313 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:05,360 Speaker 2: The coaches will care because anyone who's coaching an All 314 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 2: Star Game, he's coaching an All Star Game because his 315 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 2: team has the best record at the breaker, one of 316 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 2: the best records at the break. He thinks he has 317 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:21,639 Speaker 2: a real chance of playing in the final. Coaching in 318 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 2: the finals exactly so, and you would be able to 319 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 2: find even if it's twelve guys and a few of 320 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:33,360 Speaker 2: them don't care, those guys wouldn't play. The coach could 321 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:37,399 Speaker 2: then just pick the guys who are locked in. Now, 322 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 2: if you don't want to do that, then I'm here 323 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:50,440 Speaker 2: to tell you there is no obvious fix the international 324 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:55,440 Speaker 2: versus the North America that could work for a year. 325 00:27:56,600 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 2: My idea from yesterday of because right now, the winning 326 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:04,680 Speaker 2: players demonse get one hundred grand, the losing players get 327 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:09,639 Speaker 2: twenty five thousand. I think having that one hundred and 328 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 2: twenty five thousand being duffel bags in cash along the baseline, 329 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:19,280 Speaker 2: and the losing players have to present it to the 330 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 2: winning players after they get all the money could again 331 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 2: briefly temporarily impact competitiveness, but overall, guys respond to incentives, 332 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 2: and what we reward in NBA coverage is postseason success 333 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 2: and only postseason success. So as long as that is 334 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 2: how the league is discussed, everything else is going to 335 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 2: take a back seat to that. So those are my fixes. 336 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:51,240 Speaker 2: Go ahead, pal. 337 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 3: So another focus on the weekend is the buddy Buddy stuff. 338 00:28:56,720 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 3: Luca and yo kids seem to be having soap opera 339 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 3: thing going on. The NBA in general seems to be 340 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 3: a little bit too focused on the story these days 341 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 3: and not the basketball. What do you think about that? 342 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 2: Well, that's again, yeah, I mean that's again. I would 343 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 2: argue a symptom of how the league is covered the league. 344 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 2: I think that, And I can check the data on this. 345 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:32,960 Speaker 2: I think NBA television shows or my show when we 346 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 2: talk NBA, the highest ratings are during the playoffs, and 347 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:45,240 Speaker 2: I think the second highest ratings are during free agency, 348 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 2: not during the regular season. The drama and the free 349 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 2: agency and the player movement has become yeah, exactly right, 350 00:29:56,840 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 2: has become far more. I don't know if it's interesting 351 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 2: or if it's just what we discussed, or maybe it 352 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 2: is what the fans want. 353 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 3: I don't know. 354 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 2: That has become the second biggest part of an NBA's 355 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 2: year is not the regular season. It is the off season. 356 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 2: It's the playoffs one and the off season two. 357 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 3: All right, Next, you think Luca and Jokic whatever team up. 358 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:27,040 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, Jokic said I love Denver, so Luca 359 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:32,480 Speaker 2: would have to come to me. I don't think so. 360 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 2: I think Luca would be more likely to go to 361 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 2: a more international city. I want a coastal place. But 362 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 2: I do think that it is more than on the 363 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 2: board that Luca doesn't spend his whole career in Dallas again, 364 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:56,480 Speaker 2: because listen, the folks will come for Luca too. Let 365 00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 2: the MAVs go out in round one this year, and 366 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:01,840 Speaker 2: I don't care if he averages thirty four to nine 367 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:05,080 Speaker 2: and nine, folks are gonna be at his doorstep saying, 368 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 2: where's the wins, where's the finals appearances, where's the champ 369 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:10,000 Speaker 2: I was not in. 370 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 3: My head for something completely different, but yeah, fair enough on. 371 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 2: Too, Okay, go ahead. 372 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 3: Yeah. Another huge story of the weekend was Lebron. Supposedly 373 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 3: he could have ended up playing in Golden State with Steph, 374 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 3: but he's claiming that he didn't know about it. I 375 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 3: think he might have known about it, But the story 376 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,720 Speaker 3: here here is him not knowing about it, is if 377 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:34,800 Speaker 3: he were, if he would have gone. I'm sorry, I'm 378 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 3: a little choked up. 379 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:36,920 Speaker 2: But you're right. 380 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,280 Speaker 3: Lebron obviously says that he wants to end his career 381 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 3: with the Lakers. You're the Lebron whisperer. What do you think. 382 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 2: Listen. I think he does want to end his career 383 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 2: with the Lakers. I don't want him to. I think 384 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 2: he does want to. I don't trust the Lakers front 385 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:56,840 Speaker 2: office or ownership at all at all. I think the 386 00:31:56,920 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 2: Lakers ownership is bad, and I don't think Rob Polink 387 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 2: has done a good job. And they when they do, 388 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:10,280 Speaker 2: when they make good moves that you know, the front 389 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:14,480 Speaker 2: office making these hard calls, and when they make the 390 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 2: Russell Westbrook trade, it's what do you want us to do? 391 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:20,040 Speaker 2: Lebron made us do it. I mean, this team has 392 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:24,720 Speaker 2: tried for three years to acquire Buddy Heald, couldn't find 393 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:27,160 Speaker 2: a way to do it. Daryl got him for cork 394 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:30,480 Speaker 2: Mas and three second round picks. So I don't think 395 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 2: the Lakers are very well run. Lebron going to Golden 396 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:43,959 Speaker 2: State can't happen. He can't go to Steph's team. They 397 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 2: would have to find a neutral site, if you will, 398 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:53,760 Speaker 2: they would have to find a third party team. And 399 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:57,680 Speaker 2: the Warriors are never trading Steph, so that's not gonna happen. 400 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:01,480 Speaker 2: Let me hold on, I have apologize Dean. 401 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:06,320 Speaker 3: Go to Golden State because it's Steph's team, and it's like. 402 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:08,640 Speaker 2: Go to the deli and get me another one of 403 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 2: these waters. Thank you, baby. Yeah, I'm just saying, yeah, 404 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:14,560 Speaker 2: go ahead, I'm on still on the air, go ahead. 405 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:16,800 Speaker 2: Uh sorry, I need another water because I'm a little 406 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:19,200 Speaker 2: on the weather. So I'm sending Deanna go get it 407 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,800 Speaker 2: for me. Deanna is here today because she didn't have school. 408 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 2: But uh, I just think it would look bad. I think, 409 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 2: first of all, I think Lebron doesn't want to ever 410 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 2: be traded, and so that's why the Golden State trade 411 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,160 Speaker 2: never got off the ground. I think if he wants 412 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:38,360 Speaker 2: to leave, he wants to do it on his own volition. 413 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:43,920 Speaker 2: But he is not gonna go join Steph's team. You 414 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:47,480 Speaker 2: can say, oh, he did it with d Wade, very different. 415 00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:51,200 Speaker 2: D Wade, Yes, he had won the title, but he 416 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:55,880 Speaker 2: had won a title five years before Lebron got there, 417 00:33:56,600 --> 00:34:00,480 Speaker 2: and that he had just missed the playoffs. And as 418 00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:03,840 Speaker 2: great as d Wade was, nobody ever actually thought d 419 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:05,280 Speaker 2: Wade was better than Lebron. 420 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:09,320 Speaker 3: People have been Ron against Curry. I feel like throughout 421 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:13,480 Speaker 3: his career, exactly. 422 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:16,000 Speaker 2: Right, exactly right. And so even though Lebron and Steph 423 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:19,640 Speaker 2: are buddies now and I think them playing together I'd 424 00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:24,400 Speaker 2: love the old man team Lebron, Stephen Durant, those three 425 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:28,879 Speaker 2: guys you know somewhere all playing together. I think it'd 426 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:31,279 Speaker 2: be super fun. The three of the oldest players in 427 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:34,720 Speaker 2: the league. Uh, that's still the standard bearers of the league. 428 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:40,480 Speaker 2: But Lebron can't go to Golden State, in my opinion, 429 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:43,520 Speaker 2: can't do it. So where would I listen? I think 430 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:46,400 Speaker 2: he's going to stay with the Lakers. His son is 431 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:49,799 Speaker 2: at USC, Bryce is his whole family's there. 432 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,520 Speaker 3: The tactics to get Golden State to try and get 433 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:54,360 Speaker 3: to draft Bronny. 434 00:34:56,520 --> 00:35:00,160 Speaker 2: No, I see, here's the thing. I do not think 435 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:05,400 Speaker 2: this was a Lebron spurred thing. I think it was 436 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:10,239 Speaker 2: a Draymon spur thing. I think Draymond wanted it and 437 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:11,520 Speaker 2: Draymond pitched it. 438 00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:14,520 Speaker 3: Didn't he go on and say something to oh, wait, no, no, no, no, 439 00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:15,360 Speaker 3: I'm sorry. 440 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:18,960 Speaker 2: I think that's a no Draymond did. Draymond did go 441 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,480 Speaker 2: out and say like I had came across my desk 442 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:24,160 Speaker 2: and I told him we can't trade Kaminga. 443 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:24,680 Speaker 3: It was weird. 444 00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:28,520 Speaker 2: I don't I don't fully buy what Draymond said, but 445 00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:34,680 Speaker 2: set that aside. I think it was Draymond Uh was 446 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:38,560 Speaker 2: the impetus here, and Draymond and Lebron obviously have the 447 00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:42,880 Speaker 2: same agent. Now here's what I'll tell you this off season. 448 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:48,200 Speaker 2: There are four places that I would love to see 449 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:51,759 Speaker 2: Lebron go. They're all in the Eastern Conference, and they 450 00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:54,960 Speaker 2: all make sense, and they are all better run than 451 00:35:55,000 --> 00:36:00,600 Speaker 2: the Lakers, and they all could win a title with 452 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:05,919 Speaker 2: Lebron at this level in my opinion, the first one, 453 00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,640 Speaker 2: go ahead, and you go go, demonse if you want 454 00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:10,279 Speaker 2: to guess, because you don't know who I'm going to. 455 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:13,160 Speaker 3: Say, I figured you'd have the Knicks on there. 456 00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:18,600 Speaker 2: Uh, maybe stop, hold on, hold on, So let's go no, no, no, 457 00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:20,640 Speaker 2: because I want you to go one by one. The 458 00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:26,880 Speaker 2: Knicks are on there. Now. Lebron understandably does not like 459 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:30,480 Speaker 2: James Dolan and has said he wouldn't play for him. 460 00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:34,399 Speaker 2: Rich his agent has an old kind of I don't 461 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,880 Speaker 2: know if beef's the right word, but a history with 462 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:40,520 Speaker 2: Leon Rose and Worldwide West, who are running the Knicks. 463 00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:45,120 Speaker 2: So that part of it makes it a little would 464 00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:49,319 Speaker 2: make it a little awkward. But yes, the Knicks if 465 00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:52,840 Speaker 2: Lebron came there this offseason. Because here's the thing. Lebron 466 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:56,040 Speaker 2: has the ability to do this offseason. If he wants 467 00:36:56,040 --> 00:37:00,719 Speaker 2: to go somewhere and play for very little money, go 468 00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:04,000 Speaker 2: to an already built team that doesn't have to carve 469 00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:07,080 Speaker 2: out cap space. I don't know that he wants to 470 00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:13,879 Speaker 2: do that. Lebron is notoriously cheap and wants to own 471 00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:17,960 Speaker 2: a team one day, so he needs so he needs 472 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:22,800 Speaker 2: the money, Thank you, Deanna. It needs the money sounds weird, 473 00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:25,360 Speaker 2: but I mean if he wants to be a primary 474 00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:31,040 Speaker 2: owner of something that's gonna cost billions of dollars, leaving 475 00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:34,600 Speaker 2: forty to fifty million on the table, doesn't sound like 476 00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:37,680 Speaker 2: he wants to do it. But yes, the Knicks with 477 00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:42,080 Speaker 2: Jalen there could win the title. I believe with this 478 00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:45,320 Speaker 2: level Lebron, who's the next team you you were gonna. 479 00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:52,600 Speaker 3: Say, I said Cleveland, that's correct, but copy. 480 00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:56,280 Speaker 2: Cleveland's the next team. They don't have a small forward, 481 00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:59,439 Speaker 2: they trust, they have two guards, they have big men, 482 00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:02,319 Speaker 2: they don't know how to win. It would be an 483 00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:05,840 Speaker 2: awesome third and final act for Lebron. 484 00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:07,560 Speaker 3: I love that idea. 485 00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:11,319 Speaker 2: I don't think he's gonna do it, but that team 486 00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:13,160 Speaker 2: would be good enough to win the East again with 487 00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:18,239 Speaker 2: Lebron at this level, Mitchell, Garland, Mobley Allen. That team, yes, 488 00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:20,600 Speaker 2: all right? Can you guess the last two? 489 00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:23,320 Speaker 3: The Heat? 490 00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:29,000 Speaker 2: The Heater? Absolutely the next team. I love the ownership, 491 00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:35,319 Speaker 2: front office and coach playoff Jimmy, Lebron, Bam, He's been there, 492 00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:38,279 Speaker 2: his family loved it there that you know they might 493 00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:41,160 Speaker 2: go to the finals again. This year they haven't been 494 00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:45,040 Speaker 2: able to quite get over the hump, the heat and 495 00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:48,439 Speaker 2: then the last last year. Right, do you have a fourth? 496 00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:49,880 Speaker 2: Do you know who the fourth one is? 497 00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:55,480 Speaker 3: Fourth and final? I'm either gonna go. I feel like 498 00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:00,040 Speaker 3: it's this. I mean, you said take little money, so 499 00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,000 Speaker 3: maybe the Sixers, but I feel like it might be that. 500 00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:03,520 Speaker 2: That's right, it's the Sixers. 501 00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:04,280 Speaker 3: It's the Sixers. 502 00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:10,719 Speaker 2: No, the Sixers. Yes, because while the Sixers are the 503 00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:17,080 Speaker 2: only team that I listed of the Knicks Cavs, Heat, 504 00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:20,000 Speaker 2: the Sixers are the one team that has a player 505 00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:25,000 Speaker 2: that is clearly better than Lebron Jalen Brunson. I don't 506 00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:28,399 Speaker 2: think it's better than Lebron. I it's close. I don't 507 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:31,200 Speaker 2: think he's better. Donovan's not better than Lebron. Jimmy's not 508 00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:34,080 Speaker 2: better than Lebron. Even year twenty one old ass Lebron. 509 00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:37,680 Speaker 3: I think if a little bit bigger, you'd think that 510 00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:39,160 Speaker 3: maybe he was better than Lebron. 511 00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:41,799 Speaker 2: Yes, well, if you were a little bit bigger, he'd 512 00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:46,000 Speaker 2: be better. He's an excellent player. But in the NBA, 513 00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:48,600 Speaker 2: there's real you know what I mean, Like, there's real limit. 514 00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:53,200 Speaker 2: There's a reason in all of NBA history the only 515 00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:57,880 Speaker 2: guys under six to six to be the best players 516 00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:02,200 Speaker 2: on a champion are Isaiah Thomas and Steph Curry and 517 00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:04,279 Speaker 2: Brunson's way under si you know what I mean, It's 518 00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:10,640 Speaker 2: really hard, really really hard. And so but the reason 519 00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:14,560 Speaker 2: why I think Philly would work for Bron is because 520 00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:23,080 Speaker 2: while Embiid's better, that team has never won. That team 521 00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:27,040 Speaker 2: forget winning a title, forget being in the finals, has 522 00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:31,759 Speaker 2: never been in the conference finals. They've been the Philadelphia 523 00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:35,440 Speaker 2: seventy six ers have been in the conference finals or 524 00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:40,719 Speaker 2: further once since Doctor J was there, the one iverson team. 525 00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:46,279 Speaker 2: Embiid's never been passed round two. So Lebron's showing up 526 00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:49,520 Speaker 2: and that, yes, that would work. I don't think it's realistic, 527 00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:52,480 Speaker 2: but that's where I would like him to go. I 528 00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:56,120 Speaker 2: do not think he is going to go any of 529 00:40:56,160 --> 00:41:00,359 Speaker 2: those places. I think He's probably gonna stay in LA, 530 00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:03,080 Speaker 2: which you know is a Lebron guy I don't love, 531 00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:04,799 Speaker 2: but I think it's what he wants. All right, let's 532 00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:06,040 Speaker 2: go to Steph first, Sabrina. 533 00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:10,160 Speaker 3: All Right, So All Star Weekend was a joke except 534 00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:12,680 Speaker 3: for the three point contest between Steph and Sabrina. I 535 00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:14,920 Speaker 3: think it was a really huge moment for sports and 536 00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:18,560 Speaker 3: basketball in general. What was the story for you here? 537 00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:22,200 Speaker 3: So the competition, the commentary around it, or anything else 538 00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:22,920 Speaker 3: poke out to you. 539 00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, what poked out to me is I think women's 540 00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:28,759 Speaker 2: basketball is having a real moment right now, and it 541 00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:33,319 Speaker 2: thrills me. I think Sabrina going toe to toe with 542 00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:36,920 Speaker 2: Steph at the exact same time that Caitlin Clark is 543 00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:42,640 Speaker 2: showing the world that women's basketball can get big time ratings, 544 00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:50,120 Speaker 2: big big time ratings. Like she's awesome, man, she is awesome. 545 00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:53,279 Speaker 2: And to circle back to what I was saying was wrong, 546 00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:58,839 Speaker 2: demands with the All Star Game, Jay Williams, and I'm 547 00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:01,600 Speaker 2: gonna try and take a shot at Jay. He refused 548 00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:05,279 Speaker 2: to call her great Caitlyn Clark, and his answer was 549 00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:08,439 Speaker 2: she's never won a title, and this is what I'm saying, 550 00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:13,280 Speaker 2: We've done to basketball. Caitlyn Clark is by any metric, 551 00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:16,759 Speaker 2: one of the greatest female college basketball players ever, one 552 00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:20,680 Speaker 2: of the greatest college basketball players ever. But because they 553 00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:23,400 Speaker 2: you know, they lost in the nat they lost the 554 00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:28,000 Speaker 2: national final last year instead of winning the national final, 555 00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:31,080 Speaker 2: you can't call her a great. Now. If the conversation 556 00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:36,680 Speaker 2: was is she the greatest female college player ever, that's 557 00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:39,640 Speaker 2: a different discussion. Then if you want to say you 558 00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:41,839 Speaker 2: have to at least win one title to be the 559 00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:47,760 Speaker 2: greatest player ever at your thing, So forget a title. 560 00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:51,399 Speaker 2: Of course, to not even be willing to call her 561 00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:56,439 Speaker 2: a great is crazy. And so I loved what Sabrina did. 562 00:42:56,560 --> 00:43:00,719 Speaker 2: And my suggestion for All Star Weekend next year is 563 00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:07,160 Speaker 2: Steph Versus Sabrina Part two and Caitlin versus Dame in 564 00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:14,400 Speaker 2: a super long range like logo for these competition. I 565 00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:17,720 Speaker 2: think that would be all I think. I think Caitlin 566 00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:22,600 Speaker 2: versus Dame on like essentially the four point competition and 567 00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:25,040 Speaker 2: Steph first Sabrina in that. So, yeah, I loved you. 568 00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:27,359 Speaker 2: I thought it was great. And I like how the 569 00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:31,960 Speaker 2: NBA guys are embracing the women's hoopers because they're awesome. 570 00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:35,000 Speaker 2: All Right, We've got to never a Doubt update, and 571 00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:37,520 Speaker 2: I'm gonna continue to take some cough drops quick break 572 00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:45,799 Speaker 2: right back, What's right? All right? Welcome back in What's 573 00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:46,319 Speaker 2: right with Nick? 574 00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:46,880 Speaker 3: Right? All right? 575 00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:51,000 Speaker 2: So we've got some never a Doubt updates for for you. 576 00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:55,080 Speaker 2: So let's roll through some of them. Father and son. 577 00:43:56,239 --> 00:44:00,319 Speaker 2: Look at that from Seth Warland. I mean that a 578 00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:03,960 Speaker 2: baby with the never a Doubt tattoo and Jeff Willett 579 00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:08,920 Speaker 2: with both kids with the never a Doubt tattoos. I 580 00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:13,839 Speaker 2: love it though, and the never a Doubt tattoos are 581 00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:18,759 Speaker 2: incredibly well produced, and the way they were able to 582 00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:23,560 Speaker 2: kind of mimic the exact UH font that I have 583 00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:26,200 Speaker 2: on my arm is unbelievable. All right, let's keep rolling 584 00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:29,239 Speaker 2: through them, uh, because I didn't need to not talk 585 00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:30,640 Speaker 2: for the next few hours for TV. 586 00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:31,600 Speaker 3: UH. 587 00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:36,839 Speaker 2: Scotty might know out in San Diego, San Diego, those 588 00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:42,560 Speaker 2: folks Summer Campbell Collins UH has a great one with 589 00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:45,839 Speaker 2: also with a category two take sign. I wonder if 590 00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:48,759 Speaker 2: they were out at the parade. That's great, and I 591 00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:52,560 Speaker 2: think we've got a we've got something to play you by. 592 00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:08,120 Speaker 2: That's awesome. That is really great. Those folks, I think 593 00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:10,920 Speaker 2: back on the show for the second time. All right, 594 00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:13,640 Speaker 2: let's get through a few more before I've got to go. 595 00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:18,880 Speaker 2: Ryan Hodges and Tommy Spears with their tattoos watching the 596 00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:25,120 Speaker 2: Super Bowl. Mark Hernandez he's got one along with the 597 00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:31,000 Speaker 2: Lebron James action figure. Dallas says the tattoo didn't arrive 598 00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:33,160 Speaker 2: in time, so he just wrote a NAD on his arm. 599 00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:36,600 Speaker 2: Maybe not the greatest idea, but I understand. And then, 600 00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:41,759 Speaker 2: of course Mahomes is never a doubt, which was super dope. 601 00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:46,600 Speaker 2: All right, Uh, demand's a great job today. I'm gonna 602 00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:52,439 Speaker 2: answer one listener question real quick. Matt Gronkey says, Nick 603 00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:55,759 Speaker 2: is Harrison Bucker a lot Hall of Famer? No no, no, no, 604 00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:58,640 Speaker 2: no no. I love Bucker, but Kickers are making the 605 00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:03,760 Speaker 2: Hall of Fame incredibly, incredible difficult. He is building a resume, 606 00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:12,400 Speaker 2: but right now, the only the only Lock Hall of 607 00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:17,719 Speaker 2: famers involved in the Chiefs Dynasty or Mahomes, Kelsey Hill 608 00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:24,600 Speaker 2: and Chris Jones. Those are the Andy Obviously there are 609 00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:28,000 Speaker 2: no other Lock Hall of Famers. Bucker is building the 610 00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:30,920 Speaker 2: postseason resume, but he's gonna have to do it far longer. 611 00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:33,480 Speaker 2: He is unbelievable, and I got to spend some nice 612 00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:36,600 Speaker 2: time with him at the parade. All right, programming update, 613 00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:41,880 Speaker 2: we are off. Go ahead, Demansey, nothing, I was fed 614 00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:47,600 Speaker 2: Tony and yeah, there's the producers always setting you up 615 00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:52,480 Speaker 2: to fail. We are off Thursday and then all of 616 00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:56,680 Speaker 2: next week off TV and podcast next week, so we 617 00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:59,959 Speaker 2: will be back two weeks from today for the next 618 00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:03,040 Speaker 2: episode of What's Right Again. 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