WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Make The Call

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<v Speaker 1>The following. Here's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Boys. Let's go. Are

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<v Speaker 1>you ready for a break? Yes? Are you ready for

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<v Speaker 1>a break? Absolutely? Ready for a break? Yeah, and so

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<v Speaker 1>much for that. It's time for The Break on Dallas

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys dot Com with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, am Bar Garcia,

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<v Speaker 1>and Derek Eagleton. It is Wednesday, March second, twenty twenty two,

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<v Speaker 1>Season seventeen, episode number one oh six. Welcome to the

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<v Speaker 1>latest edition of The Break. We are alive from this

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<v Speaker 1>s WBC Mortgage Studios at the Star, joined by Nick Eatman.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got Amber Garcia. Dave is not with us today.

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<v Speaker 1>He is out in Indianapolis covering the combine. He's going

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<v Speaker 1>to join us here in a moment, catch us up

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<v Speaker 1>on all the things that are happening out there, the

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<v Speaker 1>people he's talking to, the information that he's getting. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And just if you guys have any questions for him,

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<v Speaker 1>you can kind of throw those at him too. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>be good. We got to start the show. What, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't have any glass? Yeah, in case you guys

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<v Speaker 1>haven't noticed, we got like no glass. It's actually a

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<v Speaker 1>good thing. I love this, but we gotta start the show.

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<v Speaker 1>We wishould go very happy birthday to my dude. Thank you,

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<v Speaker 1>Happy birthday. Okay, man, pretty old, you're not old. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's all about to say story. Sure, it tells the story.

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<v Speaker 1>So this seems old, but go ahead. Yeah. When I

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<v Speaker 1>was thirteen years old, just a while ago. Um, I

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<v Speaker 1>was thirteen and I've just moved from Oklahoma to Dallas.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was like, you know, a little small town, Okhom,

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<v Speaker 1>very rural, and then all of a sudden get here

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<v Speaker 1>and it's like a little different, little preppy. I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>you sed saw that. It didn't have a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>friend I hate it, you know, want to move in

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<v Speaker 1>your thirteen seventh grade. So it was like my fifth

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<v Speaker 1>sixth day of school, March second comes around. I'm in

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<v Speaker 1>the history class and the teacher was really nice, like

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta gotta it's a very special birthday to day.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh, thank awesome, because do y'all know

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<v Speaker 1>whose birthday it is? And I was about to raise

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<v Speaker 1>my hand. They're like, it's Texas's birthday. It's Texas Independence

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<v Speaker 1>Day and everybody was like oh. I was like okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So then they went through that, and then she goes,

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<v Speaker 1>hold on, there is another birthday, another birthday, and I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, Okay, finally she's like doctor Seus's birthday is today,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, I hate this class, I hate

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<v Speaker 1>this world. I want to go back home. But I

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<v Speaker 1>hate Texas. I hate Texas. I hate forever. So anyways,

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<v Speaker 1>so those two birthday Happy birthday to doctor SEUs, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and happy birthday to Texas. And it funny how you

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<v Speaker 1>kind of know, like, you know, celebrities, you know, things

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<v Speaker 1>like world Chamberlain scored one hundred points today. Really you

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<v Speaker 1>probably saw it somewhere. Yeah, I put a hundred points

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<v Speaker 1>in a game March second. Yeah. Yeah, you know you

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<v Speaker 1>share birthday with like bon Jovi and things like that,

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<v Speaker 1>do you. Yeah, that's what about you? What do you

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<v Speaker 1>share through it? You know, like the celebrity I want

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<v Speaker 1>to say, Denzel Washington, it's either the same day or

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<v Speaker 1>like a day or two apart. But that's the only

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<v Speaker 1>thing on what I know. I don't know. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think I've looked it up. No, but happy birthday too.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a it's always a good right here right here

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<v Speaker 1>day back there. There's something I don't know what it is.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh gosh, hey, what does Indianapolis feel so far away?

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<v Speaker 1>It's like reporting from Baghdad? Like, what's up? Man, That's

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<v Speaker 1>just that's just the cherry picker driving down the street. Sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>I got it. Happy birthday, Nick, Thanks Bud, appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 1>Mind so isolated here, you know, like you guys in December,

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<v Speaker 1>and so we run back and back to Man, we're

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<v Speaker 1>all together. It's like here here, here, here, Dave eating

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<v Speaker 1>this half eating cake that we gave to Broadest. So Dave, Man,

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on out there in Indianapolis. Give us an

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<v Speaker 1>update on what what you're seeing, what you're hearing, what's

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<v Speaker 1>going on. You know, it's kind of ironic because, like,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, the combine has started and it's picking up.

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<v Speaker 1>But like I've been here since Monday, and the thing

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<v Speaker 1>that people are here for, which is the drills, like

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<v Speaker 1>that doesn't even start until the weekend because they want

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<v Speaker 1>to maximize the TV viewership. So yeah, like people are

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<v Speaker 1>talking and then all of the good combine whispers and everything.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just funny to me that we're three days in

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<v Speaker 1>and like nothing has actually happened. But yeah, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the sideshow of the honnestly, the real reason you're here.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody actually cares about the drills. It's all about you know,

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<v Speaker 1>contract negotiations and all that type of stuff, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>going on in earnest We talked to Stephen Jones Monday.

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<v Speaker 1>I still don't know when we're gonna talk to Jerry Jones,

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<v Speaker 1>but I actually I have another interview with Stephen set

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<v Speaker 1>up in just a little bit. So all of the good,

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<v Speaker 1>all of the good combine storylines of who might be

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<v Speaker 1>getting a pay cut or who might they be targeting

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<v Speaker 1>for an extension, all that fun stuff. So Dave, Dave

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<v Speaker 1>and I have talked about this, like I think, I

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<v Speaker 1>think the meeting is this afternoon, and then after that,

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<v Speaker 1>like they got to get off the bus because then

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<v Speaker 1>the agents are coming in. Wait, So the meeting with

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<v Speaker 1>Jerry on the bus, no, no no, no, the meeting with

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<v Speaker 1>Steven day. They're gonna meet with Steven and then after that,

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<v Speaker 1>reportedly the agents are coming in to meet afterwards. So

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<v Speaker 1>Dave's gonna go to the bathroom real quick and stay there.

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<v Speaker 1>I stay there. Well, Jay ron Curses agent or Schultz's

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<v Speaker 1>agent or Gregory's agent come in and meet on the bus.

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<v Speaker 1>You got that phone charged up, Dave. Oh yeah, report

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<v Speaker 1>all that. I got a solid I'm gonna hang out

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<v Speaker 1>in the back and see what they'll let all right, Dave.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm gonna put you on the spot a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>And I understand as a reporter you can't always talk

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<v Speaker 1>about everything that you hear. But what has been the

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<v Speaker 1>most interesting little tidbit you've heard this week? That that's

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<v Speaker 1>safe for for air, safe for radio, that is, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's quite a contradiction, um man. So I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like it's it's almost kind of beaten into the ground

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<v Speaker 1>at this point. We've just we've talked so much amar

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<v Speaker 1>and so much to Marcus Lawrence, I think, honestly, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'll kind of I'll bail myself out because the funny

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<v Speaker 1>thing is, like you hear it, you hear it a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of both ways. Like you know, we got

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<v Speaker 1>here Monday, and again we've been talking about this for

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<v Speaker 1>a month where it's like, oh man, they got some

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<v Speaker 1>decisions to make. This could be a really hectic month,

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<v Speaker 1>and and Stephen was very noncommittal about Amari Cooper's shooture

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<v Speaker 1>on Monday. So you start connecting the dots and it's

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<v Speaker 1>like a certainty that Amari Cooper is not going to

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<v Speaker 1>be on the team. And then I was out, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>doing the hobnobbing thing last night. You just never know

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<v Speaker 1>who you're going to run into, and then you wind

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<v Speaker 1>up having a conversation where it's like, you know, that's

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<v Speaker 1>don't don't be too quick with that, Like, well, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>see what happen. Yeah. Absolutely, But then the other side

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<v Speaker 1>of it is like, oh, they you know, they're already

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<v Speaker 1>they're already talking about using that money to bring back

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<v Speaker 1>Schultz or a Gallup or whatever. Like it's it really

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<v Speaker 1>is chaos, and the truth is somewhere in the middle.

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<v Speaker 1>But I guess the most interesting thing I've heard is

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<v Speaker 1>I've heard it all Like everybody's got a story that

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<v Speaker 1>they're trying to sell depending on who you're talking to. Yeah, wow,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, So you guys did talk to Steven and

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<v Speaker 1>you talked to Mike McCarthy. What were you were out

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<v Speaker 1>takes from that? What were the I guess the things

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<v Speaker 1>that stood out to you from those conversations, from those

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<v Speaker 1>interviews that we've all heard, what was most interesting to you.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a man to be honest with. It's funny, like

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<v Speaker 1>again like I was out late last night talking with

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys people, talking with NFL people. We did Steven, We've

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<v Speaker 1>got another interview with Stephen that we've been prepping for.

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<v Speaker 1>I completely like forgot. Not only did we get to

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<v Speaker 1>talk to Mike yesterday, but he took us to lunch

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<v Speaker 1>and again like most of the good stuff happened after

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<v Speaker 1>they made us turn our records off. But always, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll talk about that when you get back. Yeah, no, absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's um. It was interesting. I thought I might

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<v Speaker 1>talked a lot yesterday about UM about the offense, and

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<v Speaker 1>I mean he did. He made the comment at the

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<v Speaker 1>podium that he was or no, I think he said

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<v Speaker 1>it at lunch. He was like, we've got to find

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<v Speaker 1>a way to improve the most productive offense in the league,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a nice problem to have. That's an interesting perspective.

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<v Speaker 1>But he talked about wanting, you know, the walk around

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<v Speaker 1>head coach. You're all about where you need to be,

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<v Speaker 1>what you need to focus on, and he made it

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<v Speaker 1>pretty clear he thought he needed to focus on on

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<v Speaker 1>the offense. And at the same time, though I actually

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<v Speaker 1>I asked him directly how he felt about the job

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<v Speaker 1>that Kellen Moore's done. He was very complimentary of Kellen,

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<v Speaker 1>but talked about I felt very smart for all four

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<v Speaker 1>of us, honestly, because he talked about talk to me

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<v Speaker 1>about a lot of the stuff that we've talked about

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<v Speaker 1>in regard to Kellen, whether it's situational stuff, red zone stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, growing pains that any young offensive play caller has.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought it was interesting because I don't I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think he shied away from some of the problems that

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<v Speaker 1>the offense has had. Talked a lot about endencies, um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, being being sure not to give away your

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<v Speaker 1>tendencies to too many people, are not to telegraph them

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<v Speaker 1>too much. Um. So yeah, I thought that was a

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<v Speaker 1>really interesting and it sounds like he wants that to

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<v Speaker 1>be a focal point for his third year. Is not

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<v Speaker 1>to like take play calling away from Kellen or revamp anything,

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<v Speaker 1>but just to kind of maybe help him a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit with the expertise that he does have as a

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<v Speaker 1>play caller. Dave, I have a question for you going

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<v Speaker 1>back to kind of switching the conversation to the combine.

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<v Speaker 1>I know you you said that not a lot has

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<v Speaker 1>happened yet, but usually, you know, you kind of tend

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<v Speaker 1>to keep an eye on certain guys or wanting to

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<v Speaker 1>look at certain guys. So as of right now, what

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<v Speaker 1>would be like either a name or a position that

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<v Speaker 1>And I know the Cowboys are kind of all over

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<v Speaker 1>the board, so it's very hard to pick one. But

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<v Speaker 1>at this moment, what would be a position that's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of getting hot for the Cowboys. Well, the interesting thing

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<v Speaker 1>for me is, I mean, like I always say this,

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<v Speaker 1>there's like there's several storylines. There's the storyline when the

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<v Speaker 1>season ends, there's the storyline at the combine when you're

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<v Speaker 1>starting to revamp your roster, and then like when free

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<v Speaker 1>agency gets going and the league gear starts, it completely

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<v Speaker 1>changes again. And I bring that up because again, like

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<v Speaker 1>what we were just talking about me right now, like

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<v Speaker 1>there's there's like a small list of guys that I'm

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<v Speaker 1>focused on, but I know it's completely going to change.

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<v Speaker 1>Like we've talked a lot about Tyler Linderbaum is the

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<v Speaker 1>center out of Iowa. Nikobe Dean is a linebacker out

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<v Speaker 1>of Georgia. This team obviously needs help a linebacker next

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<v Speaker 1>to Michael Parsons. But if all of this stuff pops

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<v Speaker 1>off with Amari Cooper and or DeMarcus Lawrence, this is

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<v Speaker 1>a super deep edge rushing edge rushing class. Obviously there's

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<v Speaker 1>two guys at the top of it that the Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>don't have a shot at. But like a guy like

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<v Speaker 1>George Carlostis out of Purdue is a guy that becomes

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<v Speaker 1>very very interesting. If DeMarcus Lawrence isn't on this team,

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<v Speaker 1>how about I joked with Nick about this the other

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<v Speaker 1>day when we were talking about work stuff. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>if a Maria Cooper is not on this team, Traylan

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<v Speaker 1>Burke out of Arkansas, like he skyrockets to the top

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<v Speaker 1>of my list of guys that I would love for

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<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys to draft. And that's the funny thing. Like

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<v Speaker 1>two weeks from now, we could be hyper focused on

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<v Speaker 1>wide receivers, of which there are a lot of good ones.

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<v Speaker 1>Burke's is one. Chris Lave out of Ohio State actually

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<v Speaker 1>just spoke to the media about an hour ago, really

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<v Speaker 1>talented player who I think is going to perform very

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<v Speaker 1>well in the drills this week. So I just I

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<v Speaker 1>always love the way that that shifts is, like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we're super focused on guards and centers and linebackers right now,

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<v Speaker 1>but two weeks from now, it could be a completely

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<v Speaker 1>different story. So edge rusher and wide receiver become a

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<v Speaker 1>lot interesting, a lot more interesting to me depending on

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<v Speaker 1>what happens with free agency. All right, Dave, I'm want

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<v Speaker 1>to go back to the roster real quick. And so

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<v Speaker 1>you say, like, I can foresee this conversation you had

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<v Speaker 1>last night, like what everyone's saying, Amar, he's probably going

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<v Speaker 1>to be cut, and then whoever another drink, whoever was

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<v Speaker 1>sitting there like, oh, having some drinks, Like uh contrary,

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<v Speaker 1>hold on, you know, like like that's what people do.

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<v Speaker 1>I felt like Mike was doing that yesterday when Tony

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<v Speaker 1>Pollard needs more carries or Amari Cooper didn't get open.

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<v Speaker 1>And I felt like he was kind of defending that, like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>that's just the narrative for you. I thought so too.

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<v Speaker 1>I absolutely thought that was the case. Like he was

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of like hold on, you know, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>yeah he was. Yeah. He basically was like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>what are other guys doing? Like are we doing enough

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<v Speaker 1>to get get him featured? Are other guys doing enough

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<v Speaker 1>to take the pressure off him? That's the way I

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<v Speaker 1>took it. And here he was like, yeah, you have

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<v Speaker 1>to have these types of football conversations before you can

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<v Speaker 1>have a contract conversation because it all ties in. It's like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if he's if he's sitting in your cap

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<v Speaker 1>for twenty millions. Yeah, that's what everybody focuses on. But okay,

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<v Speaker 1>let's look at you know, how our teams playing him?

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<v Speaker 1>How are we How are the other guys on this

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<v Speaker 1>offense helping him? And he had a big thing about,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, to win playoff games, to win games against

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<v Speaker 1>really good teams deep in the postseason, like you need

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<v Speaker 1>your your third, fourth, fifth perimeter player to step up.

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, I like, I was kind of side eyeing

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<v Speaker 1>Mike while he was saying all this, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't sound like a guy that thinks Amari Cooper's

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<v Speaker 1>abum um. So I don't know. Yeah, Like it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>one of those things that it's it's like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>like everybody's selling a narrative, and I like, I still

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<v Speaker 1>I lean toward thinking something's going on with Amari, But

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<v Speaker 1>who knows. Maybe they really haven't made up their minds. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And that's so honestly, it sounds like to me, across

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<v Speaker 1>the boys, there's a lot of decisions have to be made,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm not sure that anybody in this building where

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<v Speaker 1>I guess the guys that are down in Indie really

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<v Speaker 1>know exactly what they're gonna do with all of them.

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<v Speaker 1>That's where the conversations are going to come in. What

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<v Speaker 1>are they gonna hear when they talk to the different agents,

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<v Speaker 1>and what are they gonna hear when they when they

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<v Speaker 1>start thinking about who they can possibly get in the

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<v Speaker 1>draft and who they think you'd be available to them

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<v Speaker 1>that could possibly replace guys. There's a lot of stuff

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<v Speaker 1>that has to be decided. I don't think they know

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<v Speaker 1>the answers right now, no, which that's kind of I

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<v Speaker 1>love that you said that, Derek. I think it's like

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<v Speaker 1>you read my story. That's I mean, that's what I

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<v Speaker 1>wrote the other day. And Stephen kind of said that.

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<v Speaker 1>He was like, you know, it's still pretty early and

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<v Speaker 1>this is this is typically where you start talking to

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<v Speaker 1>agents and start trying to lay the groundwork for what's

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<v Speaker 1>going to happen. And that's all well and good, but

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I blink. I feel like I blinked, and

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<v Speaker 1>it was March. I mean the league years fifteen days

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<v Speaker 1>away or fourteen days away. Now it's March second. Now, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not even the first anymore, So you got two

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<v Speaker 1>weeks to figure it out, or maybe maybe two and

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<v Speaker 1>a half because Amari's salary doesn't become guaranteed until the

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<v Speaker 1>fifth day of the league year. So I mean, you

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<v Speaker 1>can stretch it out if you want to, but get

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta it's time to start figuring this out. You don't.

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<v Speaker 1>It seems like a lot of time. It's really not. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, Dave, real quick, give us a schedule. What's

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<v Speaker 1>coming up here in the next I guess day or so?

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<v Speaker 1>When when can we can Well, those of us that

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<v Speaker 1>will be watching it on TV, do you know when

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<v Speaker 1>those when the players are actually going to be on

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<v Speaker 1>the field and doing the drills. That's the funny thing, man,

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<v Speaker 1>to be I'll be very blunt with you. I have

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<v Speaker 1>no clue because like that stuff, that stuff feels so secondary.

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, like we're not allowed in we're not

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<v Speaker 1>allowed in the building to watch it, and then they

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<v Speaker 1>stretch it out to the weekend, which honestly is usually

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<v Speaker 1>when reporters leave town. But I like, we have so

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<v Speaker 1>much stuff coming. Like I said, I'll say it for

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<v Speaker 1>the tenth time. We're meeting with Stephen in a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna get a nice little exclusive with him talk

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<v Speaker 1>about some draft talk about some free agency stuff. I

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<v Speaker 1>think we're gonna have that on the site, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think we're also going to have it on the Draft

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<v Speaker 1>Show today. Well, we're supposed to record another episode of

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<v Speaker 1>The Draft Show with Dame Brugler later this afternoon. Good stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I heard a rumor that Will McClay is actually gonna

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<v Speaker 1>come and sit down on our set tomorrow, which would

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<v Speaker 1>be amazing. He usually doesn't do that till after the draft,

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<v Speaker 1>so for him to take the time to do that

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<v Speaker 1>in the middle of the combine would be really great.

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<v Speaker 1>And then there's the ingering Jerry Jones State of the

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<v Speaker 1>Union is still to come too, So I mean, we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have more content and I can even wrap my

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<v Speaker 1>brain around here in the next like three or so days.

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<v Speaker 1>So do me one favorite when you when you talk

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<v Speaker 1>to Steven, I do have one question I'd love for

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<v Speaker 1>you to ask him. I'm just interested to know, do

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<v Speaker 1>they how comparable do they think Blake Jarwin is to

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<v Speaker 1>Dalton Schultz, Because I think there's a lot of talk

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<v Speaker 1>about Dalton Schultz and what he provided for this offense.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd be interested to know if they would even say it,

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<v Speaker 1>how comparable they think those two players are. So ask

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<v Speaker 1>him that. Hey, we're the only ones talking to him,

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<v Speaker 1>so I can do that for you. Good, awesome, Let's

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<v Speaker 1>do that, all right, Dave, appreciate you. Man you. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>have you back at the studio with us next week.

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<v Speaker 1>You have a safe trip and enjoy Indianapolis, and we're

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<v Speaker 1>lots of questions to talk about here. We'll talk about

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<v Speaker 1>We were just joined by Dave Helmont. He told us

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<v Speaker 1>all about what he's hearing out there in Indianapolis. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure Nick, you've had that experience. Is you know that

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<v Speaker 1>part of the trip we talk about the trip we

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<v Speaker 1>talk about it's the stuff that we get that may

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<v Speaker 1>not necessarily be on camera, that might be just as

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<v Speaker 1>good as the stuff that is on camera and those

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<v Speaker 1>opportunities just to talk to different guys and get to

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<v Speaker 1>know things that will help us down the roads. Certainly,

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<v Speaker 1>it's fun and it's it's one of those head on

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<v Speaker 1>the swivel type things because you never know where to

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<v Speaker 1>go and and that's the difference. And I say this

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<v Speaker 1>all the time. And one of the writers who's been

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<v Speaker 1>doing this for years, he told me my very first

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<v Speaker 1>year covering the team. He said, there's a difference between

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<v Speaker 1>covering the team and covering the beat. And I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>understand that at the time, and I certainly understand it now.

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<v Speaker 1>You see people that show up at restaurants. You're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I go to this restaurant every year. Why because Jerry

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<v Speaker 1>and Steven and Jerry Junior and whoever they'll be there.

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<v Speaker 1>And then when they're there, then you talk to him

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<v Speaker 1>and all that, and then you may sit there and

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<v Speaker 1>who knows how the conversation goes. Yeah, this other place

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<v Speaker 1>over here is a lot more fun. But this place

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<v Speaker 1>is where you might have to talk to people. And

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<v Speaker 1>other writers know it too, and you have to play defense.

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<v Speaker 1>That's covering the beat, that is like, hey, I have

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<v Speaker 1>to do this. I have to walk eighteen holes with

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<v Speaker 1>Tony Romo for this golf tournament that he's not going

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<v Speaker 1>to win, but we're gonna walk and we're gonna talk

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<v Speaker 1>to him and all that for that one minute where

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<v Speaker 1>you might get some stuff, right. Yeah, that's covering the beat, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and so that that's kind of what Dave's doing.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, not not that Dave doesn't want to

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<v Speaker 1>go to the bar, you know, but we're saying. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's part of it though. So I think that's probably

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<v Speaker 1>the fun part of it for report is that's a

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<v Speaker 1>part of what you get geeked up to do, right.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, there's a lot of people there's talking about

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<v Speaker 1>the Combine movement and all that, and there's there will

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<v Speaker 1>be people that will kind of be you know, disappointed

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit if it moves to Dallas, because it

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<v Speaker 1>Indian Indianaples does it well. But it is fun to

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<v Speaker 1>like go on the road and do that stuff. It'll

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<v Speaker 1>be a little different if you're in health you're here,

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<v Speaker 1>but like, of course be better for us. We have

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<v Speaker 1>more resources as well. That's that's kind of like what

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<v Speaker 1>we do. And we have to do training camp here

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<v Speaker 1>in the past, like it's like it's harder because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>when we're at training camp California. You're at training camp

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<v Speaker 1>in California, like husband, wife can't say, hey, I need

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<v Speaker 1>you to come home and help out with this. You

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<v Speaker 1>can't come home. But when you're here in Dallas, it's like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>when we go over there, it's like you're in a

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<v Speaker 1>different space, but you feel like family in a way,

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<v Speaker 1>like we know each other, we talk around each other,

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<v Speaker 1>and you feel closer. Yeah, when training camp, for example,

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<v Speaker 1>you're seeing training camp and is an example. We go

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<v Speaker 1>come over here, then we have restrictions and there's more limitations,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's just the disconnect is creative where now we're

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<v Speaker 1>just like everybody else in the media. Yeah, exactly, just

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<v Speaker 1>feels like working late, you know, basically a training training

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<v Speaker 1>camp here. You know. All right, let's jump in. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to talk about Stephen Jones and then some of

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<v Speaker 1>the comments that he made earlier this week and get

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<v Speaker 1>you guys' opinions. He was talking about Amari Cooper and

0:22:09.840 --> 0:22:12.680
<v Speaker 1>I think just it was also kind of about DeMarcus,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think the question was specific to Himri and

0:22:16.480 --> 0:22:18.800
<v Speaker 1>his response was it's too early for me to address

0:22:18.880 --> 0:22:21.120
<v Speaker 1>that I don't want to address any of that as

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<v Speaker 1>far as the details of the contract, and where I

0:22:24.640 --> 0:22:27.240
<v Speaker 1>found a stark contrast was he was asked about Zeke

0:22:27.280 --> 0:22:30.480
<v Speaker 1>Elliott and his response was, I want Zeke on my team. Obviously,

0:22:30.520 --> 0:22:33.120
<v Speaker 1>his contract, his money's guaranteed, He's going to be here,

0:22:33.359 --> 0:22:36.840
<v Speaker 1>there's no question. My question for you guys is, obviously

0:22:36.840 --> 0:22:39.880
<v Speaker 1>we all understand the contracts are one thing, but does

0:22:39.920 --> 0:22:42.399
<v Speaker 1>that also tell you something. Do you get some insight

0:22:42.440 --> 0:22:44.560
<v Speaker 1>out of what they're thinking about with a Mari maybe

0:22:44.560 --> 0:22:48.240
<v Speaker 1>with DeMarcus, just knowing that that that is not as concrete,

0:22:48.280 --> 0:22:50.000
<v Speaker 1>that is not as as written in stone, and it

0:22:50.040 --> 0:22:53.040
<v Speaker 1>does make it a situation where maybe those guys are

0:22:53.280 --> 0:22:56.560
<v Speaker 1>are legitimately out of the door. No, I don't think so.

0:22:57.280 --> 0:22:59.920
<v Speaker 1>I think that if Zeke's contract was similar to that

0:23:00.040 --> 0:23:02.399
<v Speaker 1>at then I think they might say it. I think

0:23:02.440 --> 0:23:05.159
<v Speaker 1>they would be on the table to maybe release him.

0:23:05.200 --> 0:23:08.320
<v Speaker 1>I think it starts with the with the fact that

0:23:08.800 --> 0:23:11.199
<v Speaker 1>you can't move them. You know, It's like it's like

0:23:11.240 --> 0:23:12.919
<v Speaker 1>you you go up and this is your house and

0:23:12.920 --> 0:23:15.720
<v Speaker 1>this is a huge statue and it's it's not being moved,

0:23:15.760 --> 0:23:17.800
<v Speaker 1>and you're like, do you like the statue? It's like,

0:23:17.960 --> 0:23:19.439
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. You can say it's ugly or not,

0:23:19.440 --> 0:23:21.040
<v Speaker 1>but guess what, you're not moving it, so it's just

0:23:21.160 --> 0:23:23.600
<v Speaker 1>gonna sit here. So we might we better like it

0:23:23.760 --> 0:23:25.600
<v Speaker 1>because this is why it's going to be at least

0:23:25.600 --> 0:23:27.440
<v Speaker 1>for right now. So yeah, of course you got to

0:23:27.440 --> 0:23:29.360
<v Speaker 1>say that about Zeke and all that stuff. I think

0:23:29.359 --> 0:23:31.520
<v Speaker 1>if Zeke's contract was at the point that those other

0:23:31.520 --> 0:23:34.000
<v Speaker 1>two were, I think they might try to move on.

0:23:34.040 --> 0:23:35.840
<v Speaker 1>I know they would move on from I really do.

0:23:35.880 --> 0:23:38.800
<v Speaker 1>I mean his his Yes, he had a good season

0:23:38.880 --> 0:23:40.960
<v Speaker 1>when he was healthy and all that, but that's part

0:23:41.000 --> 0:23:43.160
<v Speaker 1>of it. That's the running back that doesn't They don't

0:23:43.160 --> 0:23:46.360
<v Speaker 1>stay healthy at this part in their career. So um,

0:23:46.920 --> 0:23:49.000
<v Speaker 1>but I think they're gonna say all the right things

0:23:49.040 --> 0:23:51.000
<v Speaker 1>because they know he's going to be here. But the

0:23:51.040 --> 0:23:53.720
<v Speaker 1>other two, you can, you can move on from them

0:23:53.760 --> 0:23:57.440
<v Speaker 1>because they have other options as well. And that's the thing.

0:23:57.520 --> 0:24:00.240
<v Speaker 1>It's like, um, if they were sure about it, it's

0:24:00.280 --> 0:24:02.520
<v Speaker 1>one of those things you are talking about two guys

0:24:02.600 --> 0:24:05.679
<v Speaker 1>or guys that are under contract currently. This is not

0:24:05.720 --> 0:24:08.600
<v Speaker 1>a free agent guy that's about you know that you

0:24:08.640 --> 0:24:10.879
<v Speaker 1>want to keep it kind of to yourself and not

0:24:11.000 --> 0:24:13.880
<v Speaker 1>really say anything but if you feel one hundred percent

0:24:14.000 --> 0:24:16.920
<v Speaker 1>sure or close to being sure to wanting someone to stay,

0:24:16.960 --> 0:24:19.400
<v Speaker 1>I think you would go out and say, well, yeah,

0:24:19.440 --> 0:24:21.720
<v Speaker 1>we're looking at all, you know, all the options and stuff,

0:24:21.720 --> 0:24:24.160
<v Speaker 1>but we definitely want to keep or try to keep

0:24:24.760 --> 0:24:27.240
<v Speaker 1>a guy like Amark Cooper, or not even say keeping,

0:24:27.400 --> 0:24:30.159
<v Speaker 1>but say yeah, a guy like Amary Cooper. There's a

0:24:30.160 --> 0:24:31.919
<v Speaker 1>whole lot for us, and kind of just kind of

0:24:31.920 --> 0:24:34.760
<v Speaker 1>back it up and give them more flowers, you know,

0:24:35.160 --> 0:24:38.800
<v Speaker 1>and make you feel like, Okay, they definitely But something

0:24:38.840 --> 0:24:42.000
<v Speaker 1>about it, it's like makes me want to think something's

0:24:42.040 --> 0:24:45.720
<v Speaker 1>going on to where maybe they're not feeling as sure

0:24:45.960 --> 0:24:49.520
<v Speaker 1>or as happy or as like you feel like they

0:24:49.520 --> 0:24:52.159
<v Speaker 1>are gonna keep him. I don't know, I don't know

0:24:52.200 --> 0:24:54.240
<v Speaker 1>how to feel right now, but it just doesn't feel

0:24:54.280 --> 0:24:58.199
<v Speaker 1>like Amari Cooper would be here next year. Yeah, what

0:24:58.240 --> 0:25:00.440
<v Speaker 1>do you think is the timeline? Obviously, for Mark, you've

0:25:00.480 --> 0:25:03.239
<v Speaker 1>got the five days into the next cale, I mean

0:25:03.280 --> 0:25:06.320
<v Speaker 1>the next year for the NFL, they have to make

0:25:06.320 --> 0:25:09.399
<v Speaker 1>a decision or they're going to be tied into his money.

0:25:09.720 --> 0:25:12.000
<v Speaker 1>But for DeMarcus, what do they have a timeline? What

0:25:12.040 --> 0:25:14.520
<v Speaker 1>do you think it's a timeline for that decision. You know,

0:25:14.640 --> 0:25:17.800
<v Speaker 1>I think that I don't know about the time. I

0:25:17.800 --> 0:25:20.760
<v Speaker 1>don't know if he's got a bonus on the in

0:25:20.840 --> 0:25:23.679
<v Speaker 1>that at all, but I do think that there's a

0:25:23.680 --> 0:25:27.480
<v Speaker 1>priority there that they have to decide on both positions.

0:25:27.720 --> 0:25:30.399
<v Speaker 1>And then the interesting thing is those two guys are

0:25:30.480 --> 0:25:34.480
<v Speaker 1>under contract, but the next guy that's in the consideration

0:25:34.720 --> 0:25:37.800
<v Speaker 1>is not under contract. So is Gregory a higher priority

0:25:37.840 --> 0:25:40.520
<v Speaker 1>than d Law? Do you have to sign resign him?

0:25:40.560 --> 0:25:42.800
<v Speaker 1>And if you do, we got to cut d Law

0:25:42.960 --> 0:25:45.719
<v Speaker 1>Or do we want to sign Michael Gallop or Cedric

0:25:45.760 --> 0:25:47.600
<v Speaker 1>Wilson or both? And then if that's the case, that

0:25:47.680 --> 0:25:49.560
<v Speaker 1>you cut you know, so because if you sit there,

0:25:49.640 --> 0:25:52.160
<v Speaker 1>let's just say that they don't do anything with Amar

0:25:52.600 --> 0:25:55.200
<v Speaker 1>and Gallop signs with another team, and what Cedric signs

0:25:55.240 --> 0:25:57.160
<v Speaker 1>with another team, and they don't really like what they're

0:25:57.160 --> 0:25:59.439
<v Speaker 1>seeing from other you know, other guy free agents. They're like,

0:25:59.440 --> 0:26:01.399
<v Speaker 1>wait a second, do we really want to cut him on?

0:26:01.720 --> 0:26:03.880
<v Speaker 1>You can't. So that's why I think that's why it's

0:26:03.880 --> 0:26:05.720
<v Speaker 1>set for the fifth day of the league here. That's

0:26:05.720 --> 0:26:07.720
<v Speaker 1>why those things are setting like that to see kind

0:26:07.720 --> 0:26:10.360
<v Speaker 1>of how things go and see what the market looks like.

0:26:10.960 --> 0:26:14.280
<v Speaker 1>You know, because if four guys signed deals in free

0:26:14.280 --> 0:26:16.760
<v Speaker 1>agency that are twenty million a year twenty two, twenty three.

0:26:16.800 --> 0:26:18.840
<v Speaker 1>You know some guy and you're like, he's half as

0:26:18.880 --> 0:26:21.000
<v Speaker 1>good as a Mari hold up here, you know what

0:26:21.000 --> 0:26:23.479
<v Speaker 1>I mean? So I don't know. I don't know if

0:26:23.480 --> 0:26:25.679
<v Speaker 1>I answered the question, no, you did good. I was

0:26:25.680 --> 0:26:28.399
<v Speaker 1>just gonna say it is interesting the way that Stephen

0:26:28.480 --> 0:26:30.960
<v Speaker 1>Jones cannot put those two groups because we've been talking

0:26:30.960 --> 0:26:34.000
<v Speaker 1>about these guys on here. But me, in my head,

0:26:34.040 --> 0:26:37.080
<v Speaker 1>I guess I didn't necessarily put the two groups of like, okay,

0:26:37.280 --> 0:26:40.119
<v Speaker 1>wide receiver. You got Amari Cooper on their contract, and

0:26:40.160 --> 0:26:42.680
<v Speaker 1>then the two next guys, which would be free agent

0:26:42.880 --> 0:26:46.080
<v Speaker 1>Michael Gallups Cedrick Wilson on the other side of the ball,

0:26:46.359 --> 0:26:48.800
<v Speaker 1>the Marcus Lawrence on their contract. Then you got Randy

0:26:48.840 --> 0:26:52.119
<v Speaker 1>Gregory and then another guy that also a guy that

0:26:52.160 --> 0:26:54.919
<v Speaker 1>has done fairly well and that you're still considering, is

0:26:55.600 --> 0:26:59.040
<v Speaker 1>Daurn's Armstrong. And they're all in the defensive end position.

0:26:59.359 --> 0:27:03.159
<v Speaker 1>So that's a tough decision because you got both sides

0:27:03.200 --> 0:27:06.280
<v Speaker 1>equally as important on both sides of the ball, and

0:27:06.320 --> 0:27:09.160
<v Speaker 1>then what do you do? And right now I don't know, like,

0:27:09.880 --> 0:27:12.040
<v Speaker 1>are you guys feeling like, for sure, for sure, they

0:27:12.080 --> 0:27:15.120
<v Speaker 1>do need to make a decision, whether it's a guy

0:27:15.160 --> 0:27:18.359
<v Speaker 1>like DeMarcus Lawrence or Amari Cooper, Like there has to

0:27:18.400 --> 0:27:20.280
<v Speaker 1>be a decision made between those two guys of like

0:27:20.359 --> 0:27:24.879
<v Speaker 1>actually getting rid of or maybe just restructuring their contract somehow.

0:27:25.520 --> 0:27:27.760
<v Speaker 1>I honestly believe it has to do with what like

0:27:27.760 --> 0:27:29.480
<v Speaker 1>like Nicol saying, like, what are you doing with those

0:27:29.520 --> 0:27:32.720
<v Speaker 1>other guys? Because if you're target, Let's say, for example,

0:27:32.760 --> 0:27:36.080
<v Speaker 1>your target is Michael Gallup, You're like, we really want

0:27:36.080 --> 0:27:38.679
<v Speaker 1>Michael Gallup back on this team? Then yes, Now, I

0:27:38.720 --> 0:27:40.840
<v Speaker 1>think your decision on Amari has to come, and it

0:27:40.880 --> 0:27:44.000
<v Speaker 1>needs to come swiftly because that's going to affect that decision.

0:27:44.320 --> 0:27:46.440
<v Speaker 1>If you feel the same way about DeMarcus Lawrence, it's

0:27:46.480 --> 0:27:48.760
<v Speaker 1>the same thing, like do you think you absolutely need

0:27:48.760 --> 0:27:51.080
<v Speaker 1>DeMarcus Lawrence and you're like, he's we really don't want

0:27:51.080 --> 0:27:53.160
<v Speaker 1>to let him go, then I think you're probably making

0:27:53.200 --> 0:27:54.960
<v Speaker 1>a decision that we're okay with the idea that we're

0:27:54.960 --> 0:27:56.919
<v Speaker 1>gonna let him. Randy Walkers, you can't have both. I

0:27:56.960 --> 0:27:59.639
<v Speaker 1>don't think in these instances you can have Gallop and

0:27:59.720 --> 0:28:05.240
<v Speaker 1>Amr or you can have DeMarcus and Randy. So I

0:28:05.280 --> 0:28:08.040
<v Speaker 1>think all of those decisions kind of flow together. Some

0:28:08.119 --> 0:28:09.840
<v Speaker 1>of them are free agent decisions, some of them are

0:28:09.880 --> 0:28:12.359
<v Speaker 1>just decisions about guys that are under contract. Yeah, well,

0:28:12.400 --> 0:28:15.680
<v Speaker 1>it's crazy, is how you would consider your second guy

0:28:15.840 --> 0:28:19.560
<v Speaker 1>on both sides, on both positions, Like your second guy

0:28:19.880 --> 0:28:23.280
<v Speaker 1>is gonna determine what you do with your first guy,

0:28:23.520 --> 0:28:26.440
<v Speaker 1>with your starter, like your main starter. Yeah, which I

0:28:26.760 --> 0:28:28.800
<v Speaker 1>think we can all agree, like Delo would be like

0:28:28.880 --> 0:28:32.240
<v Speaker 1>their main starter over Randy at this point, right a

0:28:32.280 --> 0:28:34.320
<v Speaker 1>little bit ahead. I don't know that. See, that's the

0:28:34.359 --> 0:28:36.600
<v Speaker 1>interesting quart. That's why I said maybe. And the reason

0:28:36.600 --> 0:28:42.200
<v Speaker 1>why I say maybe is because I think, when everybody's healthy,

0:28:42.280 --> 0:28:46.760
<v Speaker 1>I think DeMarcus is a better player than Randy. But

0:28:46.880 --> 0:28:49.680
<v Speaker 1>when you factor in all the injury things that you've

0:28:49.680 --> 0:28:52.040
<v Speaker 1>had to deal with with DeMarcus over the last few years,

0:28:52.600 --> 0:28:55.240
<v Speaker 1>then I start to say, well, I think Randy might

0:28:55.280 --> 0:28:58.000
<v Speaker 1>have the leg up because he hasn't played as much football,

0:28:58.280 --> 0:29:01.520
<v Speaker 1>his body's probably healthier. So so from that same but

0:29:01.600 --> 0:29:02.960
<v Speaker 1>I think I don't I don't know that I would

0:29:02.960 --> 0:29:05.560
<v Speaker 1>say that he's clear that DeMarcus is clearly the better

0:29:05.600 --> 0:29:08.200
<v Speaker 1>of the two guys. It says like playing cards What

0:29:08.360 --> 0:29:11.120
<v Speaker 1>I like about this is when you think about these

0:29:11.120 --> 0:29:13.880
<v Speaker 1>two positions we're talking about Gregory and d Law, we're

0:29:13.880 --> 0:29:16.280
<v Speaker 1>trying to figure out who's the king, who's the queen.

0:29:16.760 --> 0:29:20.880
<v Speaker 1>Same with with with Gallup and and Amar and all that,

0:29:21.160 --> 0:29:24.960
<v Speaker 1>because in their mind they got aces in both, they

0:29:25.000 --> 0:29:28.080
<v Speaker 1>got pass rushers. They have an ace in Michael Parsons.

0:29:28.120 --> 0:29:29.480
<v Speaker 1>They got to figure out how to use them and

0:29:29.520 --> 0:29:32.600
<v Speaker 1>then they feel like CDs the ace. So that's a

0:29:32.640 --> 0:29:35.240
<v Speaker 1>good problem to have, is that it's a great analogy. Yeah,

0:29:35.680 --> 0:29:38.640
<v Speaker 1>and the thing about receiver's more like Amari's the king.

0:29:39.160 --> 0:29:40.760
<v Speaker 1>But you would rather have the jack and the queen,

0:29:40.800 --> 0:29:42.959
<v Speaker 1>which is like sed Rick and all that kind of stuff.

0:29:43.120 --> 0:29:46.480
<v Speaker 1>But you know, I'm like calling any other players like

0:29:46.480 --> 0:29:48.120
<v Speaker 1>a queen. But you know what I'm saying, I get

0:29:48.120 --> 0:29:49.719
<v Speaker 1>your point, and I think it's a really good analogy

0:29:49.760 --> 0:29:51.640
<v Speaker 1>because they do their chest. I wouldn't do a chest.

0:29:51.720 --> 0:29:54.880
<v Speaker 1>But I don't know anything about that. I don't know. Well,

0:29:55.120 --> 0:29:58.320
<v Speaker 1>the queen is the that's that's the leader, right. Yeah,

0:29:58.360 --> 0:30:01.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying not to say words, but she is. Yeah,

0:30:01.640 --> 0:30:05.000
<v Speaker 1>she can hand a little business. She's the man. Yeah

0:30:05.360 --> 0:30:07.920
<v Speaker 1>probably no, No, she's the woman. You can hand a

0:30:07.960 --> 0:30:14.800
<v Speaker 1>little business. Absolutely, yes, Yeah, she's protecting him. Yeah, exactly. Um, okay,

0:30:15.240 --> 0:30:17.400
<v Speaker 1>let's do this. Let's let's let's move that conversation a

0:30:17.400 --> 0:30:20.480
<v Speaker 1>little bit. I want to talk about the franchise tag. Actually,

0:30:20.480 --> 0:30:23.040
<v Speaker 1>Stephen was asked about that and this response was, we

0:30:23.080 --> 0:30:26.000
<v Speaker 1>haven't ruled that out, says they're still thinking about what

0:30:26.040 --> 0:30:28.120
<v Speaker 1>they might do and how they might use it. Talking

0:30:28.160 --> 0:30:30.560
<v Speaker 1>about who the candidates are, obviously you've got guys like

0:30:30.600 --> 0:30:33.040
<v Speaker 1>Dalton Schultz and Randy Gregory. Are there other guys you

0:30:33.040 --> 0:30:35.320
<v Speaker 1>think could be in play here that they could consider

0:30:35.480 --> 0:30:37.720
<v Speaker 1>for the franchise to I think it's Schultz, it was

0:30:37.840 --> 0:30:41.040
<v Speaker 1>it would be the one candidate there. So Randy you

0:30:41.040 --> 0:30:45.480
<v Speaker 1>don't even think of as a franchise tag candidate. It's

0:30:45.520 --> 0:30:47.840
<v Speaker 1>like seventeen million or something like that. I mean, as

0:30:47.880 --> 0:30:51.320
<v Speaker 1>it ain't cheap, no, because you've got guys like I mean,

0:30:51.360 --> 0:30:53.560
<v Speaker 1>you've got these defensive ends that are that are out there.

0:30:53.600 --> 0:30:55.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't even know if DeMarcus Lawrence is

0:30:56.160 --> 0:30:59.280
<v Speaker 1>in the top five of that, but I mean it's

0:30:59.400 --> 0:31:02.880
<v Speaker 1>twenty at twenty one million a year, so the average

0:31:02.880 --> 0:31:04.840
<v Speaker 1>of that, I mean, it's it's up there. He probably

0:31:04.880 --> 0:31:06.760
<v Speaker 1>isn't well and you also put in one of the

0:31:06.880 --> 0:31:09.560
<v Speaker 1>stories you did maybe yesterday or the day before yesterday,

0:31:09.600 --> 0:31:12.120
<v Speaker 1>you added um Brian Inger in that list, which was

0:31:12.200 --> 0:31:15.600
<v Speaker 1>kind of like I was like, huh, yeah, yeah, it's interesting.

0:31:15.760 --> 0:31:17.640
<v Speaker 1>If I could it is, but I could go edit that,

0:31:17.640 --> 0:31:20.240
<v Speaker 1>I probably take it out. Yeah. I talked to some

0:31:20.320 --> 0:31:23.080
<v Speaker 1>people about that, that that number is a little higher

0:31:23.120 --> 0:31:25.760
<v Speaker 1>than what they want to go there with Inger. Um,

0:31:25.880 --> 0:31:28.000
<v Speaker 1>that one's going to be interesting too. The Cowboys have

0:31:28.440 --> 0:31:30.440
<v Speaker 1>or have done some research on that. They've looked at

0:31:30.440 --> 0:31:32.560
<v Speaker 1>that and looking at his career and that, you know,

0:31:32.680 --> 0:31:35.680
<v Speaker 1>it sounds like he does better on contract years. He

0:31:35.720 --> 0:31:37.440
<v Speaker 1>hasn't done it as well once they get the deal,

0:31:37.480 --> 0:31:39.240
<v Speaker 1>So they're trying to figure that out. And I do

0:31:39.400 --> 0:31:43.520
<v Speaker 1>think and I know this that the punter position and

0:31:43.560 --> 0:31:45.800
<v Speaker 1>the kicker position will kind of play off of each other.

0:31:45.800 --> 0:31:48.800
<v Speaker 1>There's probably a total number that they want to spend

0:31:49.120 --> 0:31:55.240
<v Speaker 1>within those two guys. Let's not forget Jake McQuaid. Yeah,

0:31:55.280 --> 0:31:58.240
<v Speaker 1>but but um bore, the narrative has changed on John

0:31:58.280 --> 0:32:02.320
<v Speaker 1>Fossil a lot of bones. Um now you know he's

0:32:02.360 --> 0:32:04.600
<v Speaker 1>had I mean last year was like after the fake punt,

0:32:05.160 --> 0:32:07.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, if Yasco and all that stuff this year

0:32:07.560 --> 0:32:10.320
<v Speaker 1>though special teams has done a really good job they

0:32:10.400 --> 0:32:13.600
<v Speaker 1>blocking punts. The punter had an all worlds you know

0:32:13.720 --> 0:32:16.160
<v Speaker 1>years haven't had to do crazy stuff to do it.

0:32:16.200 --> 0:32:19.920
<v Speaker 1>Like they're playing good sound football. Yeah. So and the

0:32:20.000 --> 0:32:22.000
<v Speaker 1>and the and the guys know that. I mean, Anger

0:32:22.080 --> 0:32:24.360
<v Speaker 1>knows that. He knows that he benefits by being in

0:32:24.360 --> 0:32:26.640
<v Speaker 1>this system with John Fossil. So we'll see if that,

0:32:26.760 --> 0:32:29.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, there's any kind of discount there, if this

0:32:29.200 --> 0:32:32.400
<v Speaker 1>is where they wants to be. But um zero line.

0:32:32.480 --> 0:32:34.920
<v Speaker 1>You know, he's under contract. The zerline is and another

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<v Speaker 1>one of those d law amari that he may not

0:32:38.320 --> 0:32:41.520
<v Speaker 1>be here just just further, you know, just contracted me.

0:32:42.280 --> 0:32:44.080
<v Speaker 1>It's two and a half million a year. That's not

0:32:44.200 --> 0:32:48.200
<v Speaker 1>a lot. It's seventeenth among kickers in the in the league.

0:32:48.520 --> 0:32:50.600
<v Speaker 1>I thought two point five million for a kicker would

0:32:50.640 --> 0:32:52.760
<v Speaker 1>be a lot higher than probably where he is as

0:32:52.800 --> 0:32:54.960
<v Speaker 1>far as his ability to kick right now. If you

0:32:55.000 --> 0:32:56.920
<v Speaker 1>look at like his statistic middle the road, Yeah, it's

0:32:56.920 --> 0:32:59.240
<v Speaker 1>the middle roll kind of guy. Yeah. Yeah, I mean

0:32:59.320 --> 0:33:03.440
<v Speaker 1>he's been in middle of the road. Yeah, and that's

0:33:03.200 --> 0:33:05.920
<v Speaker 1>he's one of those guys. He's a clutch kicker. I

0:33:05.960 --> 0:33:09.640
<v Speaker 1>think he makes good kicks, but he also will miss it,

0:33:09.800 --> 0:33:12.720
<v Speaker 1>you know, some head scratch. Yeah I did. I went

0:33:12.760 --> 0:33:15.520
<v Speaker 1>around the league and looked this up at the top

0:33:15.520 --> 0:33:19.600
<v Speaker 1>twenty five kickers in the league. Um, the average extra

0:33:19.640 --> 0:33:23.440
<v Speaker 1>point misses is like one point five every kicker. This

0:33:23.560 --> 0:33:26.840
<v Speaker 1>is about average one point five. He missed six season

0:33:27.440 --> 0:33:29.800
<v Speaker 1>just last year. Oh last year. Because there's a few

0:33:29.840 --> 0:33:31.640
<v Speaker 1>kickers that did not miss an extra point. There's some

0:33:31.760 --> 0:33:35.280
<v Speaker 1>miss one two average one. But he missed six and

0:33:35.400 --> 0:33:39.680
<v Speaker 1>Nick Folk miss five. I mean, that's just it's amazing.

0:33:41.280 --> 0:33:43.520
<v Speaker 1>I have to I have to think that's a mental thing.

0:33:44.000 --> 0:33:46.400
<v Speaker 1>If you can kick a fifty yard or a forty

0:33:46.400 --> 0:33:49.520
<v Speaker 1>eight yard or with pretty good regularity and you miss

0:33:49.600 --> 0:33:52.400
<v Speaker 1>six extra points when the average is one point five,

0:33:52.440 --> 0:33:54.600
<v Speaker 1>I have to think that's play mental. But here's the

0:33:54.640 --> 0:33:57.840
<v Speaker 1>best part, or here's the interesting part about that, And

0:33:57.880 --> 0:34:01.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm not shrink at all. Yeah, he mixes it like mentally.

0:34:01.840 --> 0:34:03.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't even know if you could say it's mental,

0:34:03.480 --> 0:34:06.320
<v Speaker 1>because if it was mental, then why can you miss

0:34:06.360 --> 0:34:08.640
<v Speaker 1>in Tampa Bay miss an extra point, miss another thirty

0:34:08.680 --> 0:34:11.360
<v Speaker 1>yard kick that didn't even hit the ship it was

0:34:11.400 --> 0:34:13.799
<v Speaker 1>so far left. And then he comes back and hits

0:34:13.800 --> 0:34:17.400
<v Speaker 1>two clutch kicks. But can't mental also be about focus?

0:34:17.400 --> 0:34:20.000
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes the miss has a way of focusing you in.

0:34:20.280 --> 0:34:22.640
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes the miss has the ability of allowing you to

0:34:23.920 --> 0:34:26.479
<v Speaker 1>kind of figure out what to get wrong and correct right.

0:34:26.520 --> 0:34:29.040
<v Speaker 1>So so that could also be metal isn't as bad

0:34:29.040 --> 0:34:31.200
<v Speaker 1>as you think. Right. That's my point, and I was

0:34:31.200 --> 0:34:34.320
<v Speaker 1>actually making that point that if it's mental, that doesn't

0:34:34.320 --> 0:34:36.560
<v Speaker 1>always mean that that's a guy you necessarily want to

0:34:36.560 --> 0:34:38.960
<v Speaker 1>get rid of, because sometimes you can fix mental. Right.

0:34:40.840 --> 0:34:43.280
<v Speaker 1>What I've heard is that sometimes when it comes to Kicker,

0:34:43.800 --> 0:34:45.520
<v Speaker 1>in order to fix something like that, you need a

0:34:45.600 --> 0:34:48.600
<v Speaker 1>change of environment. So it would lead to him not

0:34:48.680 --> 0:34:51.520
<v Speaker 1>even being here and going somewhere else. But mental or

0:34:51.600 --> 0:34:54.560
<v Speaker 1>not mental, I think most will agree that a change

0:34:54.800 --> 0:34:59.160
<v Speaker 1>at the Kicker position it's needed. So his time seems

0:34:59.200 --> 0:35:03.360
<v Speaker 1>to be up for me from I think everybody listening

0:35:03.360 --> 0:35:05.960
<v Speaker 1>to us agrees with you. I guess the point I'm

0:35:06.000 --> 0:35:09.960
<v Speaker 1>making though, is when I talk mental, I think sometimes

0:35:10.000 --> 0:35:13.280
<v Speaker 1>not being mentally tough is what requires a different venue.

0:35:13.360 --> 0:35:14.920
<v Speaker 1>It doesn't sound like that's the issue. I don't think

0:35:14.920 --> 0:35:17.000
<v Speaker 1>he's not mentally tough because he wouldn't be able to

0:35:17.000 --> 0:35:19.520
<v Speaker 1>correct if he wasn't mean, he would go downhill every

0:35:19.520 --> 0:35:22.040
<v Speaker 1>time it went bad. I think the difference is he

0:35:22.080 --> 0:35:24.040
<v Speaker 1>just may not for whatever reason, he may not be

0:35:24.080 --> 0:35:26.879
<v Speaker 1>as focused, he may not be able to during the game.

0:35:26.960 --> 0:35:29.399
<v Speaker 1>At the beginning of the game, may not be right

0:35:29.480 --> 0:35:32.320
<v Speaker 1>and sync, but as the game goes on, he's mentally

0:35:32.360 --> 0:35:34.759
<v Speaker 1>tough enough to be able to. Okay, I could let

0:35:34.800 --> 0:35:36.920
<v Speaker 1>that go, let me figure out what I did wrong. Okay,

0:35:36.920 --> 0:35:39.160
<v Speaker 1>I'll make this one adjustment and bam, now we're kicking

0:35:39.239 --> 0:35:41.360
<v Speaker 1>him in right. And so that kind of mental I

0:35:41.400 --> 0:35:43.279
<v Speaker 1>do think you can fix those kinds of things. But

0:35:43.560 --> 0:35:45.880
<v Speaker 1>I also I have to put some blame on the

0:35:45.920 --> 0:35:48.480
<v Speaker 1>Cowboys because why do they try so hard to kind

0:35:48.520 --> 0:35:52.200
<v Speaker 1>of protect their kickers, Like why again, remind me of

0:35:52.280 --> 0:35:54.439
<v Speaker 1>training camp from what I remember. I know it wasn't

0:35:54.440 --> 0:35:57.280
<v Speaker 1>there and I wasn't taking care of a baby, but

0:35:57.560 --> 0:36:00.640
<v Speaker 1>from what I remember, there was no competition and we

0:36:00.719 --> 0:36:02.879
<v Speaker 1>go I feel like it's been several years where we

0:36:03.000 --> 0:36:05.480
<v Speaker 1>go into training camp thinking there's, oh, there's gonna be

0:36:05.520 --> 0:36:09.279
<v Speaker 1>a healthy competition at the kicker position, and it never

0:36:09.320 --> 0:36:13.120
<v Speaker 1>really actually happens. So and then even like preseason games,

0:36:13.360 --> 0:36:16.160
<v Speaker 1>did he play? Was he playing a preseason games? Did

0:36:16.160 --> 0:36:21.120
<v Speaker 1>he played? Yes? At the back all during camp the

0:36:21.160 --> 0:36:23.920
<v Speaker 1>back end, nice Winder kicked all that. Yeah he was

0:36:24.000 --> 0:36:27.200
<v Speaker 1>kicking in punting what yeah, and not kicking very well,

0:36:27.239 --> 0:36:29.440
<v Speaker 1>and they didn't have a kicker, and then he kicked

0:36:29.880 --> 0:36:32.760
<v Speaker 1>and preseason, the last preseason game they try to fifty

0:36:32.800 --> 0:36:35.640
<v Speaker 1>something yard or any okay, well, either the point, it's

0:36:35.680 --> 0:36:37.920
<v Speaker 1>like you go into the season, you start the season

0:36:38.040 --> 0:36:41.200
<v Speaker 1>not really seeing a whole lot from your kicker, and

0:36:41.280 --> 0:36:45.160
<v Speaker 1>even years before, you don't see somebody else kicking because

0:36:45.200 --> 0:36:46.920
<v Speaker 1>it's easy to say, oh, yeah, we can bring in

0:36:47.120 --> 0:36:50.600
<v Speaker 1>a new kicker anytime, but then when does it actually happen?

0:36:50.640 --> 0:36:52.560
<v Speaker 1>And then we get guys during the middle of the

0:36:52.560 --> 0:36:55.440
<v Speaker 1>season trying now, and then that doesn't lead to anywhere.

0:36:55.719 --> 0:36:58.920
<v Speaker 1>At that point, most kickers are taking most kickers that

0:36:59.400 --> 0:37:02.560
<v Speaker 1>can do actually something. So I just put it on

0:37:02.600 --> 0:37:05.200
<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys. But going back to the tag, I don't

0:37:05.239 --> 0:37:07.080
<v Speaker 1>think this is a year for any tag. I wouldn't

0:37:07.080 --> 0:37:10.920
<v Speaker 1>take anybody at all. There's nobody that seems appealing to

0:37:10.960 --> 0:37:12.880
<v Speaker 1>me to put a tag on that I agree with that.

0:37:13.719 --> 0:37:15.880
<v Speaker 1>The only reason I kind of was intrigued by what

0:37:15.920 --> 0:37:20.440
<v Speaker 1>you said with Anger is talking about his career and

0:37:20.480 --> 0:37:23.040
<v Speaker 1>how he's done better when he has like one year

0:37:23.560 --> 0:37:26.600
<v Speaker 1>and or us a contract year. To me, I look

0:37:26.600 --> 0:37:28.440
<v Speaker 1>at that and say, that would be a prime candidate

0:37:28.440 --> 0:37:30.399
<v Speaker 1>for somebody. You put on a franchise tag and say

0:37:30.440 --> 0:37:32.680
<v Speaker 1>do it again. And if the number, if the amount

0:37:32.680 --> 0:37:35.239
<v Speaker 1>of money that you pay him isn't crazy, then it

0:37:35.360 --> 0:37:37.160
<v Speaker 1>makes sense. You get to make him do it again,

0:37:37.239 --> 0:37:39.080
<v Speaker 1>make him show you what he did last because he

0:37:39.120 --> 0:37:41.440
<v Speaker 1>did he played really well last year. So if you

0:37:41.480 --> 0:37:43.560
<v Speaker 1>can get one more year to say, hey, show me

0:37:43.640 --> 0:37:45.719
<v Speaker 1>that again, and then maybe we'll talk about a long

0:37:45.840 --> 0:37:48.399
<v Speaker 1>term deal. I think that's the example of where you'd

0:37:48.400 --> 0:37:51.120
<v Speaker 1>want to use. I just don't think that that number

0:37:51.200 --> 0:37:53.399
<v Speaker 1>for the franchise tag for a punter is as high.

0:37:53.719 --> 0:37:55.960
<v Speaker 1>It's just too higher that they want to go. And

0:37:56.000 --> 0:37:59.080
<v Speaker 1>that makes sense. Yeah, So I mean I think I

0:37:59.080 --> 0:38:01.200
<v Speaker 1>think Schultz might be the best option if they want

0:38:01.239 --> 0:38:03.239
<v Speaker 1>to do it. But I agree, I wouldn't do it

0:38:03.280 --> 0:38:07.280
<v Speaker 1>at eleven million a year. I don't know, because especially

0:38:07.320 --> 0:38:10.000
<v Speaker 1>because you can't. I mean, if I'm gonna do that

0:38:10.280 --> 0:38:12.920
<v Speaker 1>for Schultz, I mean I don't think he's gonna. I

0:38:12.960 --> 0:38:14.680
<v Speaker 1>think this is what he is. I think he's a good,

0:38:14.719 --> 0:38:16.680
<v Speaker 1>solid panelic. He can get a lot better. I think

0:38:16.680 --> 0:38:18.759
<v Speaker 1>he's gonna get this is it. So if I'm gonna

0:38:18.800 --> 0:38:21.000
<v Speaker 1>do that with Schultz at eleven a year, then I'll

0:38:21.000 --> 0:38:23.520
<v Speaker 1>sign him to a four year, forty four million dollars

0:38:23.600 --> 0:38:26.600
<v Speaker 1>deal and then work with the where they you don't

0:38:26.600 --> 0:38:28.680
<v Speaker 1>have to pay eleven this year because I think he's

0:38:28.719 --> 0:38:31.160
<v Speaker 1>gonna be what he is. I think he's a good player.

0:38:31.400 --> 0:38:34.960
<v Speaker 1>He'll never be like the star tight end. So I mean,

0:38:35.120 --> 0:38:37.080
<v Speaker 1>if I'm gonna get him at eleven a year, then

0:38:37.120 --> 0:38:38.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna do it in a long term deal and

0:38:39.000 --> 0:38:41.000
<v Speaker 1>spread it out and maybe don't eat so much of

0:38:41.000 --> 0:38:42.759
<v Speaker 1>it right now. I can't pay eleven for him right

0:38:42.760 --> 0:38:44.719
<v Speaker 1>now on this cap. I'd be interested to see what

0:38:45.120 --> 0:38:48.440
<v Speaker 1>Steven says to that question. But I honestly believe he

0:38:48.520 --> 0:38:50.759
<v Speaker 1>and Blake jarr were are comparable players. I think had

0:38:50.760 --> 0:38:52.680
<v Speaker 1>it not been for the injury with Jarwin, we'd be

0:38:52.680 --> 0:38:54.960
<v Speaker 1>talking about Jarwin right now in the same way of

0:38:55.040 --> 0:38:57.319
<v Speaker 1>being a guy that that's a safety valve for Dak.

0:38:57.680 --> 0:38:59.520
<v Speaker 1>Dak drops the ball off to him. And by the way,

0:39:00.040 --> 0:39:01.920
<v Speaker 1>Blake does have the ability I think to make some

0:39:01.960 --> 0:39:05.120
<v Speaker 1>bigger plays like Blake is not. He is the kind

0:39:05.120 --> 0:39:07.120
<v Speaker 1>of guy that can get downfield a little bit more

0:39:07.160 --> 0:39:09.719
<v Speaker 1>than than Schultz can. And I think Schultz, he is

0:39:09.760 --> 0:39:11.680
<v Speaker 1>just a guy that has a knack for getting in

0:39:11.680 --> 0:39:14.239
<v Speaker 1>the right spot and he'll catch the ball and that

0:39:14.320 --> 0:39:16.680
<v Speaker 1>there's a place for that, and that matters. That's not

0:39:16.719 --> 0:39:19.760
<v Speaker 1>eleven million dollars though, And I think those are comparable players.

0:39:19.880 --> 0:39:21.600
<v Speaker 1>I think if he's gone, I think Blake will do

0:39:21.719 --> 0:39:24.080
<v Speaker 1>every bit of what Dalton Schultz did for you. Schultz

0:39:24.080 --> 0:39:26.760
<v Speaker 1>has never been in a situation where that you didn't

0:39:26.800 --> 0:39:30.400
<v Speaker 1>have Cede Lamb and I'm MARII Cooper taking these outside

0:39:30.400 --> 0:39:31.840
<v Speaker 1>stuff like that, and then he could just work the

0:39:31.840 --> 0:39:34.839
<v Speaker 1>middle and that's where Dak wants to throw it. But

0:39:35.400 --> 0:39:37.359
<v Speaker 1>if you don't have that on the outside and you're

0:39:37.400 --> 0:39:39.440
<v Speaker 1>not worried about the receiver as much, and you can

0:39:39.480 --> 0:39:42.239
<v Speaker 1>maybe get a safety or something to guard Schultz, then

0:39:42.560 --> 0:39:44.120
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if he's gonna be as good. I

0:39:44.120 --> 0:39:46.680
<v Speaker 1>think he's benefited from these great receivers and he may

0:39:46.719 --> 0:39:48.880
<v Speaker 1>be taking one of them away. I agree wholeheartedly. All Right,

0:39:48.880 --> 0:39:50.719
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0:39:50.800 --> 0:39:53.120
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<v Speaker 1>Life from the s WBC Mortgage Studios. At the start,

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about the franchise tag. I have a scenario. Okay, good,

0:42:28.480 --> 0:42:31.200
<v Speaker 1>I have a question. If you don't mind me ruining

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<v Speaker 1>your go for it. It's the sea. During the Break

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<v Speaker 1>we were talking about contracts and it's expectations and why

0:42:39.880 --> 0:42:42.719
<v Speaker 1>kind of expectations come with the money that you pay

0:42:42.760 --> 0:42:45.200
<v Speaker 1>the player. And we see it all the time. It

0:42:45.280 --> 0:42:48.960
<v Speaker 1>happens all the time where someone gets paid and then

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<v Speaker 1>people start killing them and criticizing them for not being

0:42:52.640 --> 0:42:57.600
<v Speaker 1>us good on the field. But is it maybe that

0:42:57.719 --> 0:43:00.279
<v Speaker 1>we're at a point where we are the ones who

0:43:00.360 --> 0:43:04.680
<v Speaker 1>need to change our own mindsets rather than keep expecting

0:43:04.960 --> 0:43:07.879
<v Speaker 1>these players that get paid to perform at an even

0:43:08.080 --> 0:43:12.680
<v Speaker 1>higher level. Or do we still keep complaining and say, no,

0:43:12.960 --> 0:43:16.360
<v Speaker 1>this player actually needs to be playing at that level,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean? The difference between them actually

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<v Speaker 1>doing it versus us maybe kind of lowering our own

0:43:22.440 --> 0:43:25.000
<v Speaker 1>self expectations of what we think of a player, No,

0:43:25.600 --> 0:43:27.680
<v Speaker 1>I think you're the first way you put it is

0:43:27.719 --> 0:43:31.680
<v Speaker 1>absolutely right. It ain't gonna happen like it's not gonna happen, like,

0:43:31.760 --> 0:43:34.680
<v Speaker 1>yes it should. But that's the world, the world we

0:43:34.680 --> 0:43:38.360
<v Speaker 1>live in. Like everybody is always going to the money

0:43:38.400 --> 0:43:41.560
<v Speaker 1>becomes the big target, and that means if you're making

0:43:41.600 --> 0:43:43.839
<v Speaker 1>that money. And by the way, part of this is

0:43:44.160 --> 0:43:46.279
<v Speaker 1>not fair to the player, but part of this is

0:43:46.320 --> 0:43:49.600
<v Speaker 1>the amount of money these guys makes so much higher

0:43:49.640 --> 0:43:52.680
<v Speaker 1>than your average everyday fan, and so the fan looks

0:43:52.719 --> 0:43:55.040
<v Speaker 1>at it and it's like, man, you give me an

0:43:55.360 --> 0:43:58.279
<v Speaker 1>eleven million dollars a year, I'll make that block. No,

0:43:58.400 --> 0:44:01.520
<v Speaker 1>they can't, but they will say I'll make that block,

0:44:01.600 --> 0:44:05.120
<v Speaker 1>like y'a'll making eleven million dollars. So I don't think

0:44:05.120 --> 0:44:08.520
<v Speaker 1>it's ever gonna change. That's my target. It's that mindset

0:44:08.600 --> 0:44:11.920
<v Speaker 1>that people think that you would do it if you

0:44:12.080 --> 0:44:15.200
<v Speaker 1>made eleven million dollars. The reason why you don't and

0:44:15.239 --> 0:44:17.600
<v Speaker 1>you probably make eleven dollars an hour or is because

0:44:17.600 --> 0:44:19.600
<v Speaker 1>you can't make that block and you've never made it

0:44:19.640 --> 0:44:26.560
<v Speaker 1>since junior high. Like that's that's why and maybe too right. Um,

0:44:26.640 --> 0:44:29.800
<v Speaker 1>So it's it's funny. I people think like the money

0:44:29.920 --> 0:44:32.759
<v Speaker 1>is supposed to make things different and better and it's

0:44:32.880 --> 0:44:35.160
<v Speaker 1>and it's not, but it's just the market value is

0:44:35.200 --> 0:44:38.200
<v Speaker 1>what it is. But you're onto something though, that there

0:44:38.239 --> 0:44:41.799
<v Speaker 1>are people that think that your team needs to that

0:44:41.920 --> 0:44:45.640
<v Speaker 1>you need to keep a stay hungry approach, which means

0:44:46.200 --> 0:44:48.520
<v Speaker 1>you don't pay. You don't sit there and go all right, well,

0:44:48.600 --> 0:44:50.200
<v Speaker 1>if you don't pay the law, we're gonna lose them.

0:44:50.600 --> 0:44:53.120
<v Speaker 1>Then then let them go, you know, like at some

0:44:53.160 --> 0:44:54.680
<v Speaker 1>point you have to do that. And that's why I

0:44:54.680 --> 0:44:56.400
<v Speaker 1>think the Cowboys are right right now. You're gonna lose

0:44:56.480 --> 0:44:58.399
<v Speaker 1>Dalton Shoulders, You're gonna lose Randy Gregor if you don't

0:44:58.400 --> 0:45:00.000
<v Speaker 1>pay them, and they're gonna have to make some tough

0:45:00.080 --> 0:45:02.560
<v Speaker 1>decisions and say, all right go. But here's the flip

0:45:02.640 --> 0:45:05.200
<v Speaker 1>side of that. Then people sit there and they look

0:45:05.239 --> 0:45:07.400
<v Speaker 1>at a Byron Jones and he goes to Miami and

0:45:07.400 --> 0:45:10.319
<v Speaker 1>plays really well. And they look at a Cheetobowoozier and

0:45:10.320 --> 0:45:12.320
<v Speaker 1>he goes to the Bengals and he plays really well.

0:45:12.520 --> 0:45:14.480
<v Speaker 1>And they look at a DeMarcus Square that goes to

0:45:14.600 --> 0:45:17.600
<v Speaker 1>Denver and wins his championship. And again I'm not saying

0:45:17.600 --> 0:45:20.319
<v Speaker 1>that there are lots of caveats to that. All I'm

0:45:20.320 --> 0:45:23.359
<v Speaker 1>saying is when fans are looking at it, they're like, man,

0:45:23.480 --> 0:45:25.799
<v Speaker 1>we let him go. But man, he's so much better

0:45:25.840 --> 0:45:28.200
<v Speaker 1>in that place than he was here. What's wrong with us?

0:45:28.480 --> 0:45:30.520
<v Speaker 1>You know? But like you said in the Break, the

0:45:30.640 --> 0:45:33.239
<v Speaker 1>Tyrone Crawfords of the world, the Jason Hatcher's of the world.

0:45:33.440 --> 0:45:37.239
<v Speaker 1>If you would have said, hey, Anthony Hitchins, is he

0:45:37.360 --> 0:45:39.520
<v Speaker 1>wants ten million a year, you gotta let him go.

0:45:39.840 --> 0:45:42.160
<v Speaker 1>You gotta cheat. They want to give Cheeto nine million

0:45:42.200 --> 0:45:45.759
<v Speaker 1>a year. By I mean, but he kind of earned it.

0:45:46.000 --> 0:45:48.440
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, But I mean, don't get me started by

0:45:49.880 --> 0:45:51.880
<v Speaker 1>that comment he made before the Super Bowl. I mean,

0:45:51.920 --> 0:45:54.640
<v Speaker 1>I thought that was it was low hanging through and

0:45:54.680 --> 0:45:57.279
<v Speaker 1>that was that was what was the critical thing he said.

0:45:57.320 --> 0:46:00.560
<v Speaker 1>He basically said that we don't even have an indoor facility.

0:46:00.719 --> 0:46:03.000
<v Speaker 1>You don't have you don't need all the lights and

0:46:03.000 --> 0:46:06.160
<v Speaker 1>the bells and whistles to do well. He's basically taking

0:46:06.200 --> 0:46:08.120
<v Speaker 1>a shot at what the Cowboys have and all that.

0:46:08.360 --> 0:46:10.360
<v Speaker 1>But he said Beasley said the same thing when he

0:46:10.400 --> 0:46:14.080
<v Speaker 1>went to the Buffalo, Right. But Beasley, he but Cheeto

0:46:14.160 --> 0:46:15.959
<v Speaker 1>called himself a blue call. He goes I'm a blue

0:46:15.960 --> 0:46:20.680
<v Speaker 1>collar guy. Yeah, no, you're not. He's not. He's not.

0:46:20.800 --> 0:46:22.919
<v Speaker 1>He did he didn't do that when when he had

0:46:22.920 --> 0:46:25.120
<v Speaker 1>a hamstring injury, he milked it as long as he

0:46:25.120 --> 0:46:26.600
<v Speaker 1>could because he knew he was going to be a

0:46:26.600 --> 0:46:28.600
<v Speaker 1>free agent and he said as much, and he didn't

0:46:28.600 --> 0:46:30.400
<v Speaker 1>want to when they were six and ten and losing

0:46:30.440 --> 0:46:32.040
<v Speaker 1>games at the end of the year. He didn't want

0:46:32.040 --> 0:46:33.960
<v Speaker 1>to be a part of that. So you don't come

0:46:33.960 --> 0:46:36.160
<v Speaker 1>back now because your team, because of Joe Burrow, made

0:46:36.200 --> 0:46:38.239
<v Speaker 1>it to the Super Bowl and call yourself a blue

0:46:38.280 --> 0:46:40.440
<v Speaker 1>collar guy when the Cowboys were trying to trade him

0:46:40.440 --> 0:46:43.480
<v Speaker 1>because he did wasn't playing. So I have a problem

0:46:43.520 --> 0:46:45.000
<v Speaker 1>with that. And then and then to talk about the

0:46:45.040 --> 0:46:47.279
<v Speaker 1>indoor facility and all that stuff. But you know, that's

0:46:47.320 --> 0:46:50.120
<v Speaker 1>that's the nage. Guys always, especially guys that leave here

0:46:50.120 --> 0:46:53.359
<v Speaker 1>at leave here when they were underappreciate it like they

0:46:53.440 --> 0:46:55.520
<v Speaker 1>all will to take the shot. The Cowboys are just

0:46:55.600 --> 0:46:58.279
<v Speaker 1>glitz and glamour. And then media does it as well.

0:46:58.280 --> 0:47:00.640
<v Speaker 1>It's fine, it's fine. But I guess my point though,

0:47:00.719 --> 0:47:03.480
<v Speaker 1>is I think there are you know, there is that

0:47:03.600 --> 0:47:05.879
<v Speaker 1>that thinking of okay, let a guy go a little

0:47:05.920 --> 0:47:08.360
<v Speaker 1>too soon rather than a little too late, But I

0:47:08.400 --> 0:47:11.880
<v Speaker 1>think it also burned you when you see those players

0:47:11.960 --> 0:47:14.080
<v Speaker 1>leave and go somewhere else, and the same thing happened

0:47:14.120 --> 0:47:16.160
<v Speaker 1>with Hitchens. Hitchens might not have been a great player,

0:47:16.160 --> 0:47:18.000
<v Speaker 1>but he went to Kansa city won a championship as

0:47:18.000 --> 0:47:20.360
<v Speaker 1>a starting linebacker. So when you see that, you're just

0:47:20.440 --> 0:47:23.200
<v Speaker 1>kind of like, many, why aren't the guys able to

0:47:23.239 --> 0:47:26.399
<v Speaker 1>have that same kind of impact here? They leave here

0:47:26.440 --> 0:47:29.640
<v Speaker 1>and immediately have that type of success or impact somewhere else.

0:47:29.680 --> 0:47:32.000
<v Speaker 1>You know, I always think of that, But look at

0:47:32.360 --> 0:47:34.879
<v Speaker 1>and I don't know if you guys might know any

0:47:34.960 --> 0:47:37.120
<v Speaker 1>names out of the top of your head, but are

0:47:37.160 --> 0:47:40.040
<v Speaker 1>there guys where that story happens with us that they

0:47:40.120 --> 0:47:44.360
<v Speaker 1>kind of are bad? Any notable guys? Mark Colombo is

0:47:44.400 --> 0:47:46.480
<v Speaker 1>a great example. I'm sure the Bears fans were like,

0:47:46.560 --> 0:47:49.160
<v Speaker 1>how the heck is he playing like he's playing over there?

0:47:49.440 --> 0:47:52.240
<v Speaker 1>When he played like that over here? Jayron Curse wherever

0:47:52.280 --> 0:47:54.080
<v Speaker 1>he's been there probably like that wasn't the guy that

0:47:54.200 --> 0:47:56.080
<v Speaker 1>was here? You know, I'm those guys. I mean, the

0:47:56.080 --> 0:47:58.919
<v Speaker 1>same thing happens here. Now we haven't had the team success. Yeah,

0:47:59.000 --> 0:48:02.480
<v Speaker 1>when you start talking about guys like DeMarcus and Hitchens

0:48:02.480 --> 0:48:05.799
<v Speaker 1>and Cheeto, but certainly from just individual I think it

0:48:05.800 --> 0:48:08.759
<v Speaker 1>happens all around the league every single year. Yeah, I mean,

0:48:09.040 --> 0:48:11.719
<v Speaker 1>but the point that I was making is is that

0:48:11.960 --> 0:48:15.080
<v Speaker 1>the other teams are in better financial situations. So the

0:48:15.400 --> 0:48:18.640
<v Speaker 1>Bengals needed to they needed to get a good cornerback,

0:48:18.719 --> 0:48:22.200
<v Speaker 1>so they got They paid for Cheeto, and the Cowboys

0:48:22.200 --> 0:48:24.440
<v Speaker 1>just couldn't afford in the nineteen million, and they couldn't

0:48:24.440 --> 0:48:27.719
<v Speaker 1>afford the Dolphins the seventeen million for Byron Jones. I mean,

0:48:27.800 --> 0:48:30.800
<v Speaker 1>but I don't I mean as Byron Jones light in

0:48:30.880 --> 0:48:33.040
<v Speaker 1>the world on fire over there. This last year, he

0:48:33.080 --> 0:48:34.640
<v Speaker 1>wasn't as good as the first. The first year, I

0:48:34.719 --> 0:48:36.799
<v Speaker 1>think he was a lot of people were questioning, like,

0:48:37.040 --> 0:48:39.680
<v Speaker 1>did Dallas make the right decision? I think now it

0:48:39.760 --> 0:48:42.279
<v Speaker 1>probably is a less of a conversation because Treyvon dig

0:48:42.320 --> 0:48:44.600
<v Speaker 1>is playing in the way that he's playing, right, But

0:48:44.719 --> 0:48:46.640
<v Speaker 1>if Trayvon wasn't playing that way, I think people would

0:48:46.640 --> 0:48:48.480
<v Speaker 1>probably still be saying, was that the right decision? What

0:48:48.800 --> 0:48:50.719
<v Speaker 1>I want to know, and I bet we can look

0:48:50.760 --> 0:48:53.600
<v Speaker 1>this up. What players have the Cowboys drafted here that

0:48:53.680 --> 0:48:56.680
<v Speaker 1>have gone to another team and made Pro Bowls? Like

0:48:57.040 --> 0:48:59.160
<v Speaker 1>Beasley has had a good year, and he's not the

0:48:59.200 --> 0:49:01.600
<v Speaker 1>reason the build have done great. And neither was Hitchens

0:49:01.600 --> 0:49:04.800
<v Speaker 1>and neither was Cheeto. I mean, they were great contributors.

0:49:05.160 --> 0:49:07.319
<v Speaker 1>But who's gone and been the man? Did? Did Chee

0:49:07.320 --> 0:49:10.120
<v Speaker 1>don't get to the Pro Bowl this year? No, no,

0:49:10.120 --> 0:49:12.960
<v Speaker 1>no way, I mean I don't think he didn't. He

0:49:13.080 --> 0:49:15.920
<v Speaker 1>was I'm sure yelled. No, he was up there. He

0:49:16.000 --> 0:49:17.960
<v Speaker 1>was considered one of the better corners in the in

0:49:18.040 --> 0:49:21.479
<v Speaker 1>the AFC. But I didn't I don't think so. Okay,

0:49:21.520 --> 0:49:23.399
<v Speaker 1>obviously didn't play because they were playing in the game

0:49:23.640 --> 0:49:26.000
<v Speaker 1>and he got a pick in that game. Um and again,

0:49:26.040 --> 0:49:27.920
<v Speaker 1>And I'm not I'm not trying to knock him. I

0:49:28.239 --> 0:49:30.640
<v Speaker 1>like him as a person. I just didn't think I

0:49:30.719 --> 0:49:33.160
<v Speaker 1>hated that comment because I thought it was it was like,

0:49:33.200 --> 0:49:35.960
<v Speaker 1>it's funny how your narrative changed over over the time.

0:49:36.000 --> 0:49:37.960
<v Speaker 1>But good for him, good for the Bengals and all

0:49:38.000 --> 0:49:40.239
<v Speaker 1>that they had the money to pay for it. But

0:49:40.520 --> 0:49:42.279
<v Speaker 1>the only person I can think of it, and just

0:49:42.280 --> 0:49:44.040
<v Speaker 1>because I remember running into him one time in the

0:49:44.040 --> 0:49:48.160
<v Speaker 1>Pro Bowl, was was Martelli's Bennett, you know, Yeah, and

0:49:48.520 --> 0:49:51.040
<v Speaker 1>he had Witten his way, and so that was gonna happen,

0:49:51.239 --> 0:49:55.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, Um, I can't think of many others though

0:49:55.160 --> 0:49:57.719
<v Speaker 1>that have gone. I mean DeMarcus Ware, but that was

0:49:57.880 --> 0:50:01.800
<v Speaker 1>kind of a different time as well. They wanted a

0:50:01.840 --> 0:50:04.280
<v Speaker 1>different role from him than what the Cowboys need. Cowboys

0:50:04.280 --> 0:50:06.279
<v Speaker 1>needed him to be the man there, they needed him

0:50:06.280 --> 0:50:08.239
<v Speaker 1>to be a piece. Yeah, as a different kind of

0:50:08.239 --> 0:50:10.120
<v Speaker 1>helped Von Miller be the man. And von Miller will

0:50:10.160 --> 0:50:12.520
<v Speaker 1>tell you right now that having to Marcus there was

0:50:12.600 --> 0:50:14.080
<v Speaker 1>one of the best things that ever happened to him

0:50:14.120 --> 0:50:17.560
<v Speaker 1>in his career. So, but I mean that's a great point.

0:50:18.040 --> 0:50:21.120
<v Speaker 1>But I guess what our conversation really was centered around

0:50:21.200 --> 0:50:23.799
<v Speaker 1>is how fans think about it. Yeah, And I don't

0:50:23.840 --> 0:50:25.800
<v Speaker 1>think fans think about it necessarily like that. They just

0:50:25.840 --> 0:50:28.799
<v Speaker 1>see the success that's surrounding them and they're like, man,

0:50:28.840 --> 0:50:30.520
<v Speaker 1>they must be contriused. They were started, they must be

0:50:30.520 --> 0:50:32.600
<v Speaker 1>contributing to that success. Why weren't they able to have

0:50:32.719 --> 0:50:34.920
<v Speaker 1>that kind of success. You think Schultz will go somewhere

0:50:34.920 --> 0:50:36.879
<v Speaker 1>and catch ninety passes and go to the Pro Bowl

0:50:36.920 --> 0:50:39.520
<v Speaker 1>and all that, unless he's got two great receivers on

0:50:39.560 --> 0:50:41.919
<v Speaker 1>the outside and a good quarterback. I just don't see

0:50:41.960 --> 0:50:44.839
<v Speaker 1>it now. And if that happens, I do think it'll

0:50:44.880 --> 0:50:49.640
<v Speaker 1>be like, Wow, damn. But if you let Randy go

0:50:49.719 --> 0:50:52.000
<v Speaker 1>after all this and he goes and gets fourteen sacks

0:50:52.120 --> 0:50:55.520
<v Speaker 1>for somebody else that's very doable, then that I think

0:50:56.080 --> 0:50:58.560
<v Speaker 1>I don't think Jerry could live with that. Yeah, especially

0:50:58.600 --> 0:51:01.359
<v Speaker 1>after all the time three am phone calls and stuff

0:51:01.400 --> 0:51:03.560
<v Speaker 1>and that the stuff that he's done and both of

0:51:03.560 --> 0:51:05.480
<v Speaker 1>them have done. I don't think Jared can live with

0:51:05.520 --> 0:51:08.239
<v Speaker 1>himself for that. And I think I think that's why

0:51:08.280 --> 0:51:10.160
<v Speaker 1>he's gonna stay, but because I think he can't get

0:51:10.200 --> 0:51:13.600
<v Speaker 1>a fourteen sack year for the Vikings or you know, somewhere.

0:51:13.880 --> 0:51:15.600
<v Speaker 1>But I do think you're facing that with two guys

0:51:15.600 --> 0:51:18.919
<v Speaker 1>this year. I think both DeMarcus and DeMar could leave

0:51:18.960 --> 0:51:21.759
<v Speaker 1>here and go somewhere and have phenomenal years next year.

0:51:21.800 --> 0:51:23.640
<v Speaker 1>I think both of them are capable of. That's true.

0:51:23.680 --> 0:51:26.040
<v Speaker 1>And so no matter how it plays out, if they're

0:51:26.080 --> 0:51:28.480
<v Speaker 1>not on this team, that something fans are going to

0:51:28.520 --> 0:51:30.319
<v Speaker 1>be looking at and they're gonna be like, if they

0:51:30.360 --> 0:51:32.440
<v Speaker 1>have those great seasons, they're gonna be like, man, why

0:51:32.480 --> 0:51:34.120
<v Speaker 1>couldn't they do that? Because I think if if a

0:51:34.200 --> 0:51:37.200
<v Speaker 1>Mari were let's say a Mari were replaced with Davante

0:51:37.320 --> 0:51:40.520
<v Speaker 1>Adams in Green Bay with Aaron Rodgers, he would have,

0:51:40.880 --> 0:51:44.279
<v Speaker 1>in my opinion, Davanta Adams type numbers. Cowboys never used

0:51:44.320 --> 0:51:47.360
<v Speaker 1>him like that, whether it's the quarterback, the offensive coordinator, whomever.

0:51:47.719 --> 0:51:49.760
<v Speaker 1>They never used him in that way. But he's capable.

0:51:49.880 --> 0:51:52.279
<v Speaker 1>He's absolutely capable of being that type of receiver. In

0:51:52.320 --> 0:51:55.799
<v Speaker 1>my opinion, I was gonna say the difference here, or

0:51:55.840 --> 0:51:59.560
<v Speaker 1>for example, with a guy like DeMarcus Lawrence, you have

0:52:00.719 --> 0:52:04.080
<v Speaker 1>a decent enough amount of years to look at, like

0:52:04.200 --> 0:52:06.839
<v Speaker 1>analyze and be like, Okay, what has he done for us?

0:52:06.840 --> 0:52:10.799
<v Speaker 1>How has he improved or declined? And regardless of his

0:52:10.880 --> 0:52:13.560
<v Speaker 1>contract money. But you know we were talking about this

0:52:13.760 --> 0:52:16.799
<v Speaker 1>even putting the money aside, Well you can't put the

0:52:16.800 --> 0:52:18.960
<v Speaker 1>money aside. Okay, you have to look at it too.

0:52:19.239 --> 0:52:22.560
<v Speaker 1>But he hasn't necessarily been the kind of guy that

0:52:23.640 --> 0:52:27.360
<v Speaker 1>is one thousand percent contributing the way you want him to.

0:52:27.800 --> 0:52:31.759
<v Speaker 1>And he is a leader, He's done other things. He

0:52:31.840 --> 0:52:34.840
<v Speaker 1>helps his presence on the field helps other guys around

0:52:34.960 --> 0:52:37.239
<v Speaker 1>him as well. Even Randy Gregory have the kind of

0:52:37.280 --> 0:52:41.080
<v Speaker 1>success that he's had. But when you look at and

0:52:41.120 --> 0:52:44.680
<v Speaker 1>start talking about the injuries, are you now concerned? How

0:52:44.760 --> 0:52:47.040
<v Speaker 1>concerned are you about his injury and last year was

0:52:47.120 --> 0:52:50.160
<v Speaker 1>the main year that he missed that kind of amount

0:52:50.160 --> 0:52:54.160
<v Speaker 1>of time. Yeah, the longest time that he's missed overall.

0:52:54.280 --> 0:52:57.239
<v Speaker 1>But even then, how many years has it been that

0:52:57.280 --> 0:52:59.600
<v Speaker 1>he's dealing with some kind of even what he's got,

0:52:59.760 --> 0:53:02.200
<v Speaker 1>what's going to get the contract? What was it he

0:53:02.320 --> 0:53:05.280
<v Speaker 1>was dealing with the shoulders? So is he now becoming

0:53:05.320 --> 0:53:09.080
<v Speaker 1>that kind of guy that, well, are you going to

0:53:09.160 --> 0:53:11.279
<v Speaker 1>be able to depend on him? Is he kind of

0:53:11.440 --> 0:53:14.400
<v Speaker 1>turning into, like I said it before, the tyrant smith

0:53:14.480 --> 0:53:17.640
<v Speaker 1>of the defense that you don't know how long? And

0:53:17.640 --> 0:53:20.160
<v Speaker 1>And to me, that's a that's a really tough decision

0:53:20.239 --> 0:53:24.479
<v Speaker 1>because you have you have to have a very good

0:53:24.480 --> 0:53:28.120
<v Speaker 1>clarity of the kind of players you're gonna have and

0:53:28.200 --> 0:53:31.040
<v Speaker 1>can count on on the field, and injuries are gonna

0:53:31.080 --> 0:53:34.120
<v Speaker 1>happen regardless, and you don't know when that's going to happen.

0:53:34.760 --> 0:53:37.359
<v Speaker 1>But injury prone is that a word that you want

0:53:37.360 --> 0:53:40.919
<v Speaker 1>to be surrounding or tagged along the guy that's being

0:53:40.960 --> 0:53:43.399
<v Speaker 1>paid that amount of money and that's supposed to be

0:53:43.480 --> 0:53:46.799
<v Speaker 1>contributing the way that you really need to start to contribute. Yeah,

0:53:46.800 --> 0:53:50.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean the six or seven games, eight games where

0:53:50.600 --> 0:53:53.560
<v Speaker 1>he was out I mean dan Quinn and the defense

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<v Speaker 1>figured out how to how to get it done and

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<v Speaker 1>get and win games and rush the password and all that.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think dan quinn success and his history of

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<v Speaker 1>helping these pass rushers. I don't think you need more

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<v Speaker 1>than one guy that's making more than ten to twelve

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<v Speaker 1>million a year. I just I think you grab I

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<v Speaker 1>forgot about that point. You mentioned the success that they

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<v Speaker 1>had without him. Now does that now change? Oh? I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's a partless conversation that they're having about how

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<v Speaker 1>much they need him and whether they can can do

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<v Speaker 1>without him. I mean, everyone said that when Dak was

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<v Speaker 1>getting carted off against the Giants and his tears and

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<v Speaker 1>crying and everyone the whole stadium's crying and press, the

0:54:32.960 --> 0:54:34.839
<v Speaker 1>proct people, you know, and they're like, what's that going

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<v Speaker 1>to do with those contract? Well, they went out and

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<v Speaker 1>they sucked, They couldn't score any points, and they missed

0:54:40.400 --> 0:54:42.880
<v Speaker 1>him his conduct that it did nothing to his contract

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<v Speaker 1>other than maybe he proved his point that how valuable

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<v Speaker 1>he is. It doesn't It doesn't help that when the

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<v Speaker 1>law got hurt, that they figured out other ways to

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<v Speaker 1>do it. And so you know, that's that's just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of the way the way that it is. And so

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't think you need one of the two. And

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<v Speaker 1>who do you think is more special, Randy or d Law?

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<v Speaker 1>And I think I don't. No one's ever called d

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<v Speaker 1>Law just like a freak, you know, like he and

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<v Speaker 1>he's kind of freaking. He can be, he can be,

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<v Speaker 1>But I think there's a little bit more potential. It's

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<v Speaker 1>hard to say that over twenty nine year old Randy Gregory,

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<v Speaker 1>but he's still pretty fresh because he hasn't played as

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<v Speaker 1>many games. I think I think the differentiator for me

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<v Speaker 1>is I think DeMarcus is a better run defender. I

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<v Speaker 1>think DeMarcus is as good a run defender as I

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<v Speaker 1>see on the edge at the Cowboys maybe time I've

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<v Speaker 1>been here outside of maybe DeMarcus like he is really

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<v Speaker 1>really good against the run and so and I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think and that's not a knock on Randy, it's just

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think he's as good as DeMarcus in that area.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think they're comparable pass rushers. I do think

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<v Speaker 1>that that Randy speed off the edge is what makes

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<v Speaker 1>him special. Yeah, and the fact that he's younger that

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<v Speaker 1>obviously helps. So you know what, I what I would

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<v Speaker 1>do is I would focus on the defensive tackles because

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<v Speaker 1>if you have the defensive tackles that can clog that up,

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<v Speaker 1>then where are they gonna go wide? Who? Who do

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<v Speaker 1>you want them to go wide against? D Law or Randy?

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<v Speaker 1>Because you're not getting wide on Randy. We know that.

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<v Speaker 1>We saw that training camp. Everyone tried to reverse. You're

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<v Speaker 1>getting wide on d Law either, Like I haven't seen

0:56:10.040 --> 0:56:13.840
<v Speaker 1>that happen very often. I'm just saying I would get

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<v Speaker 1>some I would beef this thing up in the middle.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if I'm not getting a center, I'm getting

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<v Speaker 1>a d tackle at number twenty four. And I don't

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<v Speaker 1>care if he's two down player. I've heard that argument

0:56:23.640 --> 0:56:26.240
<v Speaker 1>that he get a two down player, which two downs

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<v Speaker 1>first and second? Love it if you can do anything

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<v Speaker 1>to get me the third and nine where I've got

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of freaks running around. You don't know where

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<v Speaker 1>they're coming from. Perfect, do your job. I'll give me

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<v Speaker 1>the big, big old defensive tackle. Ye all right, we

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate you, guys, John Us. We'll be back next week

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<v Speaker 1>and we're gonna get into free agency talk. I have

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<v Speaker 1>the whole list of free agents we're gonna go down

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<v Speaker 1>the full list. We're gonna talk about who you expect

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<v Speaker 1>to be back, who you want to have back. Who

0:56:48.560 --> 0:56:50.319
<v Speaker 1>are the people that you're like, h, it's okay, they

0:56:50.320 --> 0:56:51.879
<v Speaker 1>can go ahead and leave. We'll talk about that next week.

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<v Speaker 1>Till then for Nick Even, Amber Garcia, Dave helm and

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<v Speaker 1>I am Derek Eagelton. This has been The Break live

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