1 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: Hello, Bachination, Welcome back to another episode of Happy Hour. 2 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: We have a good one for you this week. Trist 3 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:12,400 Speaker 1: the Sutter, Welcome to the podcast. 4 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 2: How you thanks for having me, Welcome back. 5 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:21,480 Speaker 3: I mean, right, you guys were here. But yeah, somebody, it's. 6 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 1: Nice to finally meet you. I've heard you. 7 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 3: So. I don't know if you guys are the same. 8 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 3: Were you even born when The Bachelorette started? Surena, I 9 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 3: don't know if that's true. 10 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 2: What year did it start? I don't know if I 11 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:42,159 Speaker 2: want to answer this question. 12 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:46,239 Speaker 3: So, but the reason I say that is because I've 13 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 3: watched every single season of the show and huge fans 14 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 3: of both of yours. So I love that I'm getting 15 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 3: a chance to meet. 16 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 2: Oh, thank you. 17 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 1: Actually, if Paradise was a thing right and you and 18 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:10,759 Speaker 1: your your husband didn't work out, would you have considered 19 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 1: going on that show? 20 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 3: Well, I can't say, because we did work out. 21 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 1: You know that's fair? 22 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:21,319 Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, you're a little late with that question. 23 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. 24 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 2: I think they had together for like twenty years. 25 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 3: You know what, though, I do love the show. I 26 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 3: love Bachelor in Paradise. I love that it continues to, 27 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 3: you know, bring people together from the show. I don't 28 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 3: know that I can say I love it more because 29 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 3: my heart, you know, kind of is all about Bachelorette, 30 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 3: just because that's, you know, our where our love story started. 31 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 3: But I am a huge fan of Bachelor and Paradise. 32 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 3: I love what they've done. Bachelor Pad was fun, and 33 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 3: then I had the challenges and you know, the kind 34 00:01:56,880 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 3: of like survivor ask thing to it. But I do 35 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 3: love watching Bachelor and Paradise. That's not to say that 36 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 3: I don't know that I would do it, but I'm 37 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 3: just thankful that everything did work out. 38 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 1: For Do you feel like when you watch because I 39 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 1: kind of feel this way when I watch Paradise, do 40 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 1: you feel like when you watch Bachelor at you're almost like, 41 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:27,920 Speaker 1: you know a little too much? 42 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 3: Like, yeah, to a degree. I don't know if it's 43 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 3: just because I'm a hopeless romantic and I love seeing 44 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 3: the love stories unfold, or the fact that I feel 45 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 3: very maternal towards everyone on the show because I am 46 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 3: so much older than everyone, Serena especially, but I just 47 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 3: feel very maternal, and so I from my couch, from 48 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 3: my living room, I feel like I get very protective 49 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 3: over people, So it's weird for me to watch because 50 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 3: I kind of have that weird perspective. This is kind 51 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 3: of a little what do you call it? 52 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 2: Teaser? 53 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 3: Also happens with two children. You forget a lot of 54 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:23,079 Speaker 3: things that you want to say. It's called I don't 55 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:24,920 Speaker 3: even know what it's called. My brain doesn't work a 56 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 3: lot anymore. Maybe it's because I'm fifty. Anyway. I will 57 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 3: be appearing on the Mentel Hall, which was so so 58 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 3: exciting for me because I do feel very maternal towards 59 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 3: everybody everybody, and just to be able to give Charity 60 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 3: a hug felt really great. I did give her a 61 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 3: little piece of advice and tell her that even though 62 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 3: I feel maternal towards everyone, I don't like to say 63 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 3: that because I feel like it kind of disrespects their 64 00:03:57,080 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 3: own families. You know, obviously I don't even know you guys, 65 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 3: but I do kind of feel just protective over everyone 66 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 3: on the show, just because we are kind of like 67 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 3: a crazy, dysfunctional if you will, family, but still we're family. 68 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, no, I don't think it it disrespects 69 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 2: the Failies at all. I think there's like a unique 70 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:21,839 Speaker 2: bond within the franchise and especially within the Bachelorette community. 71 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 2: I'm sure Charity feels a strong sense of connection to 72 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 2: you as well, and we're so excited for people to 73 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:30,599 Speaker 2: get to see you on the mental all and you 74 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 2: know the conversation you have with Charity, because we had 75 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 2: the pleasure of getting to watch it as well and 76 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 2: it was a really great moment, so fun. 77 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 3: Thank you. 78 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, we want to get your thoughts on Charity thus far. 79 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:44,279 Speaker 1: But I do want to ask, has there ever been 80 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 1: a lead a bachelorette where you were like, not, only 81 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 1: do I not really feel maternal for this one? I 82 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 1: don't really like her? 83 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 2: Oh my god, not my favorite child? Do you least 84 00:04:57,240 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 2: favorite child? 85 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,160 Speaker 1: Say who it is? You know what? 86 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:05,839 Speaker 3: No? Not? Actually not bachelorette, Bachelor? 87 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 2: Yes, that's fair. 88 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, I actually okay, So I'm going to back up. 89 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 3: I kind of made I lied to you a little 90 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 3: bit because I haven't watched every single season, every single show. 91 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 3: I there is one season that I have still to finish. 92 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:30,160 Speaker 3: I watched a few of the episodes, but I didn't 93 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 3: finish the season. Can you guess which one it is? 94 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 2: Is it a recent one? Yeah? 95 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 3: Ish? 96 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 1: Is it a bachelor season or a bachelorette? 97 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 3: It's a bachelor I've watched all the Bachelorette seasons and 98 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 3: all the Bachelor in Paradise and Bachelor Pad and Winter 99 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 3: Games and YadA, YadA, YadA. 100 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:53,159 Speaker 2: I'm going to say, yeah, let's each take our guests. 101 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:55,840 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say just just I feel like the way 102 00:05:55,920 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 1: you're phrasing it, it's Matt James, because that's that Serena. 103 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go Clayton. 104 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 3: Oh nope, I watched both of those. 105 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:05,719 Speaker 2: It was. 106 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 3: That it was Zach most recent, yeah, right, the most yes, yeah, yeah. 107 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 3: I didn't want to give it away by saying most recent. 108 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, why do you why do you not like Zach? 109 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 3: I didn't say that, Joe, No, he's still child of mine. No, uh, 110 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 3: you know, my fairy godmother's status. So I don't know. 111 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 3: I don't know what it was about his season. I 112 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 3: just couldn't connect, okay, in in some some episodes in 113 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 3: the beginning, there were points that and I hate to 114 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:59,280 Speaker 3: say this, but so maybe I shouldn't, but I don't know. 115 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 3: There were points that I just felt he wasn't being 116 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:08,480 Speaker 3: genuine and and that could have just been me and 117 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 3: my you know, my take through the television screen. I've 118 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 3: heard wonderful things about him. We actually had him Bob. 119 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 3: Bob Guinea is my co host for my podcast called 120 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 3: The Almost Famous Ogs, So we're kind of like a 121 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 3: little spin off of Ashley and Ben's Almost Famous podcast. 122 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 3: And they were all together. I couldn't be there, but 123 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 3: they were all together, Bob and then Ashley and Ben 124 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 3: and Zach was there. And I've heard wonderful things about him. 125 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 2: So I think I saw this social media. Was it like, so, 126 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:42,679 Speaker 2: did you big hangout in like Texas or something? 127 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 3: It was in in in California or maybe. 128 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 2: It was California. I just remember seeing a bunch of 129 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 2: people from the franchise together. 130 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 3: Gabby and Rachel were there. Yeah, they did like a 131 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 3: big almost It was kind of like we did the 132 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 3: same thing last year. We did on in Tahoe and 133 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 3: had a bunch of people just get together, which was 134 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 3: super fun. But I've heard wonderful things about him. I'm 135 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:09,559 Speaker 3: sure he's a wonderful guy. I wish him and Katie 136 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 3: all the best. I just couldn't gain this, Yeason. 137 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 2: You can't. You can't connect with every lead the same. 138 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 2: Do you have like favorite children from the franchise? Then 139 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 2: if you have children, you maybe don't connect with as much. 140 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 2: Who are the children that are your like superstars? 141 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 1: Yeah? 142 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 3: You know, I I am close with Caitlin, Bristo, Dianna Desiree. 143 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 3: We have a bachelorette text thread that we love to 144 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 3: just stay in touch. It's mostly like pushing everyone's birthday, 145 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 3: Happy birthday, or you know, congratulations on your marriage or whatever. 146 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 3: So I feel connected to all of them. But I 147 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:59,200 Speaker 3: would say Caitlin and I talk pretty fufuently. 148 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 2: You had a was it a birthday trip that Caitlyn? 149 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, yeah, I turned fifty and went to beaches 150 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 3: in Currosow It's in the Caribbean, and Kitlyn and Jason 151 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 3: came on the trip. I invited a bunch of my 152 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 3: friends and including them, including you know, some other batchelor 153 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 3: people that couldn't attend, but Kitlyn and Jason could make it, 154 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 3: so I loved that they could be there. It was 155 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 3: great to have them there and we had a great time. 156 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 1: Nice. Nice, Okay, so let's let's tell a little bit 157 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 1: about charity season. What are your thoughts, What are your thoughts? 158 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 1: How's she doing? 159 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 3: I think she's doing great. I kind of love like 160 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:47,440 Speaker 3: I feel like they're kind of getting back to the 161 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 3: roots of when it started, Like, it's not as long 162 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 3: of a season. It they had started with twenty five 163 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:59,200 Speaker 3: guys instead of thirty or thirty five or whatever. So 164 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 3: on my season, we started with twenty five twenty five 165 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 3: guys went down to fifteen. It was very short season. 166 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 3: It was six weeks long. So I kind of like 167 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 3: the fact that they're getting back to maybe a little 168 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 3: bit of that because as a viewer, I don't know 169 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 3: how do you guys feel, but watching three hour episodes 170 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:22,679 Speaker 3: is a lot. It's a huge time commitment, and I 171 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:28,960 Speaker 3: feel like it's so much more easily digestible if it's 172 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 3: between an hour and two hours. 173 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:31,679 Speaker 2: I agree. 174 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 1: I mean even when we hear like, oh this, you know, 175 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 1: Oppenheimer just came out, but it's it's almost three hours, Like, ah, 176 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 1: I can't go sit in a movie theater for three hours. 177 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 1: But then's yeah that we're watching our college. 178 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:45,599 Speaker 2: And we're like, oh, yeah, I have a bone to 179 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 2: pick with three hour movies. 180 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you actually you have. 181 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 2: I feel strung. I need an intermission. At least when 182 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 2: I'm watching TV at home live there's like commercial breaks. 183 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:56,680 Speaker 2: I can get up, I can go to the bathroom, 184 00:10:56,760 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 2: I can refill my water, but yeah, yeah, a positible 185 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 2: other thing, Yeah, you can posit there's PVR. 186 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, you just wait until you have kids and then 187 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:06,680 Speaker 3: you have to go to the bathroom. 188 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, that'll be a whole that I'll be using Hulu 189 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 2: a lot more. 190 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 3: That's right, Right. 191 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 1: Do you think do you think yourself is a lead? 192 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 1: Do you think it would have been different if you 193 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:25,840 Speaker 1: would have had a blueprint like you, you know, you being 194 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:27,960 Speaker 1: the first one. Do you think you would have handled 195 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:31,680 Speaker 1: it different if you were, let's say, Bachelorette number twelve. 196 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 3: You know, that's really interesting because I'm sure in some 197 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 3: way it would have been different. I was actually just 198 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 3: thinking about that today. Is the fact that going into it, 199 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 3: we all had no clue on the first season of 200 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:52,320 Speaker 3: The Bachelor, no clue what this show is all about. 201 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:56,680 Speaker 3: I mean, rose ceremony, that was not a thing, you know, 202 00:11:56,880 --> 00:12:04,320 Speaker 3: like it It was totally brand new. And I feel 203 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 3: like even though some people say that they go on 204 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:10,560 Speaker 3: the show for the right reasons and they're not there 205 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 3: to get Instagram famous or get a podcast. 206 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 1: That No, that's true, it's not just you. 207 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 3: But you know, like I just feel like there's something 208 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 3: there where. How can they not think about that? How 209 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:30,319 Speaker 3: can they not think about the fact that they'll probably 210 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:33,079 Speaker 3: have a second chance on Bachelor in Paradise if they 211 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 3: stand out enough, you know what I mean, or maybe 212 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 3: if they under the radar. I don't know. 213 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 1: I always I always said that that people if if 214 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 1: you're not acknowledging the fact that you can now make 215 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 1: a living off of social media. There are podcast opportunities, 216 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 1: there's our spin off shows. If you're not acknowledging the 217 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:54,680 Speaker 1: fact that that is a possibility, you're lying. 218 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 2: You're totally lying, because at the end of the day, 219 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 2: like best case scenario, you go on and you find 220 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 2: the love of your life. Worst case scenario, you get 221 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 2: your heart broken. But then there's stuff that lives in 222 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:09,679 Speaker 2: between of like, okay, well if neither of those happen, 223 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 2: Like what are the other possibilities here? And you know, 224 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 2: we were lucky enough to be two of the people 225 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 2: that fell in love. Obviously you were as well, But 226 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 2: I think there's so many more options in the in 227 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 2: between now than there were ten years ago. 228 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree, That's what I really wanted to ask you, 229 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 4: because were there any other like there had to be, 230 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 4: like there had to be some allure of just or 231 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 4: maybe there wasn't of just like going on national television. 232 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:48,680 Speaker 1: Like, was there anything that you were like, Oh, I know, 233 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 1: I may fall in love, but if I don't, maybe 234 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 1: I will be the next Oprah Winfrey, you know, like 235 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 1: with anything like oh, I. 236 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:00,839 Speaker 3: Will say as to cut you off if you. 237 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:04,200 Speaker 1: Have more No, no, no, no, I will say that. 238 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 3: I was a pediatric physical therapist, so I was like 239 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 3: nine to five every day Miami Children's Hospital. That was 240 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 3: my life. And and then being surrounded by this group 241 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 3: of people like the crew, the camera guys, the producers, 242 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 3: everybody right here and make up all of it. I 243 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 3: felt like they had so much fun doing their job. 244 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 3: And I don't know if you guys felt that way, 245 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 3: but the energy with the people that I was with constantly, 246 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 3: and when I was back from Intel, all it was 247 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 3: the same. You just slide right back into it. I mean, 248 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 3: Carrie Fetman, I just love the man and getting to 249 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 3: see him like it's just it really truly is like 250 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 3: a family reunion. Whenever I get to, you know, go back, 251 00:14:55,400 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 3: I just feel like it is. What was I even 252 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 3: getting at? What was the question? I mean, seriously, my brain, no. 253 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 2: Were there other incentives, other things. 254 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 3: That's where I was going, right. So the energy of 255 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 3: the crew, the host, the the producers, everybody was just 256 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 3: so uplifting. It like gave me energy. And that's my 257 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 3: personality too, like being in a social environment like fills 258 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 3: me up, fuels me up. I do like my time 259 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 3: away every now and then. But for Ryan it was 260 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 3: the opposite. So being around all of these people, constantly 261 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 3: having the cameras on him, constantly totally drink totally drinked him. 262 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 3: I cannot believe he's did. But so for me, I 263 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 3: loved that stuff and I ended up like going down 264 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 3: the host route. I was on the view. I did 265 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 3: Good Day LA, I did Good Morning America and Extra 266 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 3: and all this correspondent stuff because I just loved the 267 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 3: industry and the energy and the people and it was fun. 268 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 3: So my job as a pediatric physical therapist was really 269 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 3: rewarding in that I worked with kids. I helped them 270 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 3: walk for you know, like whatever they needed to do 271 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 3: depending on their diagnosis, And it was super rewarding. And 272 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 3: I love kids and I loved my job, but this 273 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 3: was different, Like it was just like the energy was 274 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 3: amazing and I wanted to be able to do something 275 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 3: like that. So through the show, yes, I figured that out, 276 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 3: but it wasn't something coming into the show that I 277 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 3: thought would be a possibility. I took a leave of 278 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 3: absence from my job doing The Bachelor and then for 279 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 3: the Bachelorette. When they asked me, I asked my boss 280 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 3: if I could have another leave of absence because I 281 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 3: thought I was going to come back, and she was like, 282 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 3: as sorry, no. So that's when I ended up moving 283 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 3: to la and just we weren't even signed to do 284 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 3: the show yet, but they were pretty confident that the 285 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 3: sho show was going to happen. So they ended up 286 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 3: paying like my rent and that kind of stuff because 287 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:07,360 Speaker 3: I didn't have a job. And thankfully the show happened 288 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 3: and you know, I got to meet the love of 289 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 3: my life. But I had planned to go back to 290 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 3: my normal, normal life. 291 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:19,679 Speaker 1: And I think even now, like you could you could 292 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 1: get ready for like you could be like accept like, oh, 293 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:29,159 Speaker 1: I'm going to maybe change my career or you know, 294 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 1: make money off of social media or whatever. But the 295 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 1: main thing after this show is you have to prioritize 296 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:39,119 Speaker 1: the relationship if you wanted to work because both people 297 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:42,200 Speaker 1: most likely are going to be living in two separate cities, 298 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:45,239 Speaker 1: and if you don't make that number one priority, your 299 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:48,919 Speaker 1: relationship will fizzle out. And then if it's all about business, 300 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 1: you're You're done. 301 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 3: You good, which is why, like I mean, and coming 302 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 3: from me, I'm sure this is like, well, whatever, she 303 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 3: can't talk. I did Dancing with the Stars, but I didn't. 304 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 3: You didn't hear if the stars were right after the show. 305 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 3: I did it after we were married, and the show 306 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 3: wasn't even a thing when I finished the Bachelorette. It 307 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 3: was the first season of Dancing with the Stars. But 308 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:17,639 Speaker 3: whenever I hear that someone is immediately going to Dancing 309 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 3: with the Stars after the show, I know you did 310 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 3: it too, Joe. I always worry for those for my 311 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:27,719 Speaker 3: children that they're not going to work out because of 312 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:32,439 Speaker 3: the priority thing. Like I I know wholeheartedly that that 313 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 3: is one of the biggest reasons that Ryan and I 314 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 3: were able to make this relationship work because we moved 315 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:45,359 Speaker 3: to Colorado, we took advantage of some of the fun, 316 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:48,679 Speaker 3: the fun things like you know, going to the Aims 317 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:51,680 Speaker 3: and being on Oprah and you know, all of these things. 318 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 3: But I do think you're right, Joe. I think it 319 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 3: is all about prioritization. 320 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, one hundred percent. That's usually our biggest tip to 321 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:04,920 Speaker 2: any new couples from the franchise is if you want 322 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 2: to make it work. There's a lot of distractions and opportunities, 323 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 2: and you know, take advantage of anything that sounds fun 324 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:13,120 Speaker 2: or exciting. But the number one thing, like we were 325 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:18,120 Speaker 2: different countries, so we really, you know, had to prioritize 326 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 2: the relationship. But what do you think is like, so 327 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 2: you were the first ever boucharette and now we've done 328 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:27,119 Speaker 2: twenty seasons of the Bautcherette, what do you think is 329 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 2: the biggest thing that's changed from your season to now 330 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 2: Charity season through like this evolution over the years. 331 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 3: Well, I feel like social media, you know, not it's 332 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 3: it's impacted it. So I feel like it's changed in 333 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:46,640 Speaker 3: that because social media exists, people come on the show 334 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 3: with that in the back of their minds, like there 335 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:56,719 Speaker 3: is a social media component to it. I I don't know. 336 00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 3: I I do, like I was kind of alluding to before. 337 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 3: I feel like they're kind of getting back to how 338 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 3: it was in the beginning, like shortening the season and 339 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 3: not making it this huge thing. And I have always 340 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:13,159 Speaker 3: said for years and years and years and years. You know, 341 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:15,159 Speaker 3: I get asked this all the time, what do you 342 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 3: think the show can do to continue to have legs 343 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 3: to stand and stay around? And my biggest thing was 344 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 3: always pluck someone from obscurity, let us all fall in 345 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:33,400 Speaker 3: love with them together instead of using people from past seasons. 346 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 3: And I feel like they're doing that with Golden Bachelor. 347 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:42,199 Speaker 3: And I'm really excited because he is so wholesome, Like 348 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:43,680 Speaker 3: my word for him is wholesome. 349 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:48,400 Speaker 1: And yeah, you met him for our listen, all right. 350 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 3: Oh my god, I adore him, adore him. I think 351 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 3: he's going to be like everyone is going to fall 352 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 3: This is my prediction. Everyone is going to fall in 353 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 3: love with him together as a community, as Bachelor Nation, 354 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 3: and we're all going to be rooting for him because 355 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 3: his story is heartbreaking how he lost his wife, and everyone, 356 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 3: me included, we're all going to want him to find 357 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:17,480 Speaker 3: this happiness again. And from what I hear, the women 358 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 3: are incredible. There's going to be some incredible dates. I 359 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 3: might get to see him again. So so yeah, I 360 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:32,879 Speaker 3: just I'm really excited that they're kind of going back 361 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:36,959 Speaker 3: to the beginning in a way in plucking someone out 362 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:42,439 Speaker 3: of obscurity, because they very well could have had a 363 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:46,439 Speaker 3: golden Bachelor that we know from like another show, like 364 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:51,199 Speaker 3: maybe someone's parent or grandparent or whatever, like Gabby's grandparent 365 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:56,359 Speaker 3: for example, everyone loved him or grandpa. But the fact 366 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:58,879 Speaker 3: that we are all going to get to know him 367 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 3: together and fall in love with him together. I just 368 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 3: loved that. 369 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. Same, But that's interesting. Do you think do you 370 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 1: think that would work though for the Bachelor or Bachelorette? 371 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 2: Okay, I think well, I will say the closest I 372 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 2: was just going to say the closest thing that we've 373 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 2: had to that since, you know, way back when is 374 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 2: my season on The Bachelor, which was Matt James, the 375 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 2: season who had never been a contestant. But I don't 376 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 2: know if you would consider that necessarily plucked out of 377 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 2: obscurity because he still was like really good friends with 378 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:39,640 Speaker 2: Tyler Cameron and Hannah. 379 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:42,160 Speaker 1: Brown and he was cast that he was also cast 380 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 1: on Claire's season and then. 381 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 2: It got yes, and I think there was probably pros 382 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 2: and cons to him having never done the show before. 383 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 2: You know, there is that sense of naivete of not 384 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 2: full and then having to carry the show to be 385 00:22:57,040 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 2: the lead and not fully knowing everything that's going on, 386 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:03,440 Speaker 2: I think can be hard, but I think Gary will 387 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:05,440 Speaker 2: experience all of that as well. But I do think 388 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:08,880 Speaker 2: it is exciting because, yeah, you're like, he literally got 389 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 2: plucked out of you know, Indiana or wherever where's he 390 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,440 Speaker 2: have his retirement home. And they were like, you are 391 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:18,400 Speaker 2: now the Bachelor and he is so excited. I think 392 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 2: that makes everyone else so excited. 393 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 3: Yeah. I agree. I think he's just really sincere in 394 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 3: his intention and I love that personally. 395 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:33,399 Speaker 1: And I think you're going to get all the women 396 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 1: there sincere in there, Yeah. 397 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 3: Right, because most of them don't know anything about social media. Yeah, 398 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 3: if they're maybe they're on Facebook, but yeah, I don't. 399 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:53,720 Speaker 3: It's funny. When I first met him, it was really 400 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 3: really cute. I actually walked in their makeup room. He 401 00:23:56,800 --> 00:24:01,200 Speaker 3: was sitting in the chair and I was like, I'm carry, 402 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 3: how are you. I had no idea asking me who 403 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:05,200 Speaker 3: I was. I just was like, I'm going to talk 404 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 3: to him. So we start talking and I said, so, 405 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 3: how is social media going for you? Because I know 406 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 3: that I think they had done a video maybe it 407 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 3: was good Morning America or something where he talked about 408 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 3: how he knows nothing, and like they actually got him 409 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 3: signed up for his Instagram account, which I think is 410 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 3: so cute. And I was like, so, how's social media going? 411 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 3: And he goes, oh, yeah, are you on the social 412 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 3: media team? And I was like, noorette, And he jumped 413 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:35,639 Speaker 3: out of his chair gave me the biggest hug. It 414 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 3: was the cutest thing ever. But no, I just I 415 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:43,159 Speaker 3: just love him. I love him. I really think that 416 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:45,680 Speaker 3: this is this is too America going to fall in 417 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 3: love with that like plucked out of obscurity thing, you know. 418 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 3: And if they did it for bachelor or bachelorette, I 419 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 3: think it would totally depend on who the person is 420 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:59,879 Speaker 3: and if they have a story that people feel worthy 421 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 3: of us falling in love with them, do you know 422 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:04,439 Speaker 3: what I mean? Like kind of like his story, you know, 423 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:10,159 Speaker 3: I feel like all of us as a community feel 424 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:13,359 Speaker 3: like he deserves this second chances. 425 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:16,200 Speaker 2: You know, yes, and you know that that's really what 426 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:19,639 Speaker 2: he's looking for, and he's just excited for this experienced opportunity, 427 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 2: but most of all to have this second chance at love, 428 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,680 Speaker 2: which is going to be so beautiful if he finds it. 429 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 2: And I when we interviewed him, I said I was like, 430 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:30,199 Speaker 2: I really think this is going to work for you. 431 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 2: I really think you're gonna find love. 432 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 3: I hope it does. I do. And that's weird because 433 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 3: I feel maternal towards everyone, but clearly I can't feel 434 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:42,120 Speaker 3: maternal towards him. It'd be like my grandpa. 435 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 2: Ye know, he's He's Bachelor Nation's grandpa. 436 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:48,200 Speaker 3: I love it, I love it he is. 437 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 1: Let's cut to Let's cut to this episode real quick. 438 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:56,199 Speaker 1: Just want your thoughts. I don't know. To me, it 439 00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:59,399 Speaker 1: was the biggest part of the episode with Charity saying 440 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,199 Speaker 1: that she's in love with two guys. 441 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:05,399 Speaker 3: You think that was the biggest part of the episode. 442 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 1: I well, it's I mean, I agree. 443 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 3: But I also think there's another part. 444 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:16,119 Speaker 1: Well, Aaron be coming back or Xavier Xavier? Okay, all right, 445 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 1: that's interesting. What about Xavier? Because I don't know. 446 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:24,880 Speaker 2: I guess, I guess what about Xavier? Joe, Well, there's 447 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:25,959 Speaker 2: a lot about Xavier. 448 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 1: Okay, I guess, I guess. I was just I don't know. 449 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 1: For me, I guess I was more shocked Harrier say 450 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 1: I love you to two guys than I was seeing 451 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 1: Xavier basically panic and then and then talk about cheating. 452 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no, I get that, and I do think 453 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 3: it is shocking that she told two guys that she 454 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 3: loved them because of what has happened in the past 455 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 3: with people telling two people that they love them. Yeah, 456 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 3: but I think that what is kind of off putting 457 00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:03,120 Speaker 3: to me is the fact that he didn't share about 458 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 3: his infidelity, his past infidelities with her prior to that night. 459 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:11,680 Speaker 3: And maybe it just didn't feel right never talking about it, 460 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:15,399 Speaker 3: But I feel like it took away the spot for Aaron, 461 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 3: you know, unfortunately, and Aaron showed up obviously, but it 462 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:22,679 Speaker 3: took away his ability, it seems like to have a 463 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 3: date on the Fantasy Suite Date episode, and I feel 464 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 3: like if he would have shared about his infidelity, and 465 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 3: maybe he was just scared, he wanted to get farther 466 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 3: along in order to feel more confident in their relationship 467 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:43,960 Speaker 3: before he shared it, but knowing that Charity had been 468 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 3: through what she went through with her past boyfriend, and 469 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 3: maybe he didn't know the exact details of what happened, 470 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 3: but he knew that it was a trigger for her, 471 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 3: is what he said. I just think that lesson learned 472 00:27:56,280 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 3: is be upfront and honest from the get go because 473 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,879 Speaker 3: I think it stripped her of time with Aaron, and 474 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,360 Speaker 3: who knows what will become of that relationship. 475 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 1: If if Xavier, because he clearly couldn't he couldn't commit 476 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:15,640 Speaker 1: to the fact that he wouldn't cheat in the future, 477 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 1: but if he would have told Charity, in my heart, 478 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 1: I won't cheat, and in my head I also won't cheat. 479 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 1: It does seem like she probably would have would have 480 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:29,440 Speaker 1: went to the fantasy suites with him. Do you think 481 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:31,879 Speaker 1: that would have been the right move or would you 482 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,399 Speaker 1: would you have sent them home regardless? 483 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:38,479 Speaker 3: So I think that, you know, if he had and 484 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 3: he owned up to it, but he owned up to 485 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 3: it in a way that in my mind, in a 486 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,960 Speaker 3: way that was like, hey, this happened, and it could 487 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 3: possibly happen again. I don't know, you know. 488 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, literally, that is exactly what we took from it 489 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 2: as well. 490 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 3: Like wait, whoa, whoa, whoa, Like you what to maybe 491 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 3: marry this girl? You're on this because you know that 492 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 3: that's kind of what's happened, what happens at the end 493 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 3: of the show, and you're like, oh, well, this might 494 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 3: happen again. If I go on vacation with my boys, 495 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 3: I'm like oh what. 496 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:15,240 Speaker 2: Literally, Like the line that really got me was that 497 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 2: I wanted to be like Xavier, zip it stop saying 498 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:21,479 Speaker 2: this was I don't want to cheat on you, but 499 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 2: I don't know if I won't be able, if I'll 500 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 2: be able to like control myself. I was like, Okay, 501 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 2: I respect to the honesty, but like that's a huge problem. 502 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 1: It is. It's also difficult too because he is being honest, 503 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 1: like it's just you know, but I don't. 504 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 3: Know, I don't know. I do I respect that he 505 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:46,760 Speaker 3: was being honest, agreed, I just feel like he should 506 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 3: have been if he was going to be that honest 507 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 3: and that was truly how he was feeling. Maybe he 508 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:51,720 Speaker 3: should have been honest the week before. 509 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:56,120 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, I personally think the one on one 510 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 2: would have been probably the more appropriate time to bring 511 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:00,720 Speaker 2: that com asation up. 512 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah yeah. 513 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 3: And to listen, people make mistakes, right, So it's not 514 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 3: to say that everyone in the world who has been 515 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 3: unfaithful that they can't make it work in a future relationship, right, 516 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:22,200 Speaker 3: But it seemed like from her line of questioning that 517 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 3: he really didn't do much to better himself besides being 518 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 3: introspective is what he said. He could have said I 519 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 3: read books, I listened to podcasts, I went to therapy, 520 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:36,920 Speaker 3: I you know, all of these things. I talked to 521 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 3: my friend, they talked to my family, you know, I 522 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 3: went to my priest. I don't know what. But I 523 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:51,120 Speaker 3: just feel like he wasn't necessarily very remorseful. And I 524 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 3: think had he been more remorseful and said, like this happened, 525 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 3: I feel horrible. It broke her heart, you know, it 526 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:01,840 Speaker 3: broke her relationship and ship up. I want to be 527 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:05,400 Speaker 3: honest with you. It's scary to me to be committed, 528 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:07,880 Speaker 3: but I am here for you. Like had he said 529 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:13,360 Speaker 3: something like that, like I like, obviously it doesn't have 530 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 3: to be a mistake that lingers for the rest of 531 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:21,120 Speaker 3: your life, but I think you need to learn something. Yeah. Yeah, 532 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 3: And it doesn't seem like. 533 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 1: He's just we said it like we just he's just 534 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 1: and I think he I think he is a nice guy. 535 00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 1: I just think he just wasn't ready, Like he's just 536 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 1: wasn't ready, like he he expressed it throughout the episode 537 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 1: or throughout the season, where he's like, scares me to 538 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:40,600 Speaker 1: just be with with one woman. 539 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:42,440 Speaker 2: You know, I don't think he wants to be with 540 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 2: just one woman. I think he wants to be with 541 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:46,920 Speaker 2: multiple women, and I think that is why he doesn't 542 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,800 Speaker 2: trust himself to not cheat. And I think this was 543 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:51,959 Speaker 2: maybe a learning process for him that he should just 544 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 2: go be single for a little while and enjoy that. 545 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:57,160 Speaker 2: And that's fine, that's a single It's not your time, 546 00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 2: it's not your time to settle down. You're not you're 547 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 2: not there yet, That's okay. Don't be with just one 548 00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 2: woman if you don't think you can do it right 549 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:05,200 Speaker 2: right then. 550 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:09,040 Speaker 3: That's kind of like my beef with it is you're 551 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 3: on the show. If you know that about yourself, then 552 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:15,240 Speaker 3: why take away from someone else's time. And it seemed 553 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 3: like she was right there with Aaron too, And you know, 554 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,959 Speaker 3: who knows what could have and what could happen with 555 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,960 Speaker 3: their relationship now that he's in BEG. We'll see. 556 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:30,480 Speaker 2: So now we have dotten Joey and potentially Aaron B. 557 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:34,160 Speaker 2: Do you have any predictions that you think might happen 558 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 2: or anything you would like love to see happen for 559 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 2: the rest of the season. 560 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 3: I have loved Joey from the very first show, but 561 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 3: I don't know. She clearly is in love with two 562 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:50,440 Speaker 3: at least falling in love with Aaron, and now that 563 00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:54,240 Speaker 3: he's back, maybe that will happen. I love her and 564 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 3: Dotton together. I think that both of those connections, obviously 565 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 3: they have tons of chemistry. They seem like they make 566 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:06,080 Speaker 3: each other happy, they laugh together, you know, all of 567 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:09,400 Speaker 3: these like critical things in a relationship I think are 568 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:13,200 Speaker 3: there for both of them. And it's too bad. Like 569 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 3: I've talked to people, I'm sure you guys have had 570 00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:19,840 Speaker 3: this conversation with people too, in that it's possible to 571 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:22,640 Speaker 3: fall It didn't happen to me, but I know that 572 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:26,200 Speaker 3: it's possible for the lead to fall in love with 573 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:30,480 Speaker 3: multiple people, and I think that that's it's clear that 574 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 3: that has happened this season, and it breaks my heart 575 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 3: for not only her, because that's so hard to have 576 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 3: to choose, and I would assume, and I mean I 577 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:46,920 Speaker 3: was freaking crying the first row ceremony of my season. 578 00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:50,239 Speaker 3: So like having getting down to like the two that 579 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:53,400 Speaker 3: you've told that you're in love with, I can't even imagine. 580 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:57,560 Speaker 3: And obviously for the guy whoever you know, or guys, 581 00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:01,440 Speaker 3: since Arnby has kind of been the situation too, what 582 00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:06,280 Speaker 3: will happen? It's just heartbreaking, but I know, whatever happens, 583 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 3: they'll all land on their feet and they'll be fine. 584 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 3: And I'm a firm believer and everything happens for a reason, 585 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:16,239 Speaker 3: and I think that she can't go wrong. The last 586 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:19,279 Speaker 3: guys are the quality guys to me. Yeah, and they 587 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:21,560 Speaker 3: seem like they are really truly by me. 588 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:30,720 Speaker 1: So if she could, you know, reach out to anyone 589 00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:32,319 Speaker 1: at this point in the show, and she reached out 590 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:35,279 Speaker 1: to you in this in the current situation she's in, 591 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:38,400 Speaker 1: what advice would you give her? 592 00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:42,160 Speaker 3: So before I went on the show, I can't remember 593 00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:47,960 Speaker 3: who gave me. This actually might have been my mom, 594 00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:54,120 Speaker 3: I can't remember. But the best advice I think that 595 00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:59,399 Speaker 3: I would even give my kids is you have to 596 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:06,000 Speaker 3: choose the person that you are going that you're you 597 00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:10,760 Speaker 3: can't live without. Essentially, so if she is envisioning the 598 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,400 Speaker 3: next day, the next week, the next year, and she 599 00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:17,040 Speaker 3: thinks she's gonna miss one of them more, then that's 600 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:22,040 Speaker 3: who she needs to choose. I think it's different for 601 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:28,480 Speaker 3: every person, Like for me, I wanted to feel safe, 602 00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:32,440 Speaker 3: I wanted to feel loved. I wanted to be happy 603 00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:37,000 Speaker 3: and have fun. And so it's all about like, what 604 00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:42,040 Speaker 3: qualities did she have going into the show that are 605 00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:45,680 Speaker 3: really important to her and kind of reflecting on those 606 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:49,560 Speaker 3: qualities that make her who she is and make her 607 00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:54,839 Speaker 3: happy and whether that's like good family life or you know, 608 00:35:55,040 --> 00:36:00,320 Speaker 3: like having babies or I don't know, whatever's in iportant 609 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,640 Speaker 3: to her. I think really reflecting on who you are 610 00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:06,960 Speaker 3: as a person and then thinking about the guys and 611 00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:09,760 Speaker 3: who really fits into that life. 612 00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:14,520 Speaker 1: Lovely advice. 613 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:17,000 Speaker 3: You are? 614 00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:19,719 Speaker 2: Is this? 615 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:23,719 Speaker 1: So you know? 616 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:25,040 Speaker 3: Not for nothing? 617 00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:30,479 Speaker 1: Almost famous og your podcast? Did you guys talk about 618 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:32,560 Speaker 1: this stuff? Like what goes on on that podcast? 619 00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:38,000 Speaker 3: Yeah? So we usually have like o G people. We've 620 00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:42,520 Speaker 3: been interviewed a lot of people from older seasons and 621 00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:46,480 Speaker 3: we either talk about what's happening in their life or 622 00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:51,200 Speaker 3: for the current season. I actually watched the first episode 623 00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:56,480 Speaker 3: live with Sadie Robertson, who was on the Lorenzo's season 624 00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:59,799 Speaker 3: back in the day and who is hysterical. She's in 625 00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:01,960 Speaker 3: a she does a lot of TV stuff, so you 626 00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:08,680 Speaker 3: might recognize the name, and then Courtney roberts No, I said, 627 00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:11,480 Speaker 3: Sadie Robertson. I mixed their names up, Sadie and then 628 00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:21,840 Speaker 3: Courtney Robertson from Thank You. So we actually watched the 629 00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:25,239 Speaker 3: show together. We played it on each of our computers 630 00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:28,640 Speaker 3: and then like hit play at the same time, and 631 00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:32,120 Speaker 3: we commented through the whole show. So really it's just 632 00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:37,440 Speaker 3: a mix of talking about old season's current season with 633 00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,399 Speaker 3: older people, if you will. It's a lot of fun. 634 00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:43,799 Speaker 3: I mean, I can't not have a good time with 635 00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,840 Speaker 3: Bob Guinea. He just makes me laugh, He's hysterical. We're 636 00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:51,359 Speaker 3: good friends to this day. And you know, I'm sure 637 00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:54,080 Speaker 3: you guys feel the same way. It's just fun to podcast. 638 00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:57,439 Speaker 3: I was always drawn to radio interviews too, even more 639 00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:00,960 Speaker 3: than television because of the energy of radio hosts, Like 640 00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:04,480 Speaker 3: you really have to be good at your job and 641 00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:08,080 Speaker 3: have great energy as a radio host because people, at 642 00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:12,239 Speaker 3: least until Zoom, weren't seeing you, you know. And so 643 00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:15,560 Speaker 3: I just I love podcasts. I love chatting with people, 644 00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:19,440 Speaker 3: and especially people from my little Bachelor Nation family. 645 00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:23,160 Speaker 1: Nice. Okay, all right, well, our listeners, uh, make sure 646 00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:26,600 Speaker 1: make sure to tune in one more question Trista before 647 00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:27,920 Speaker 1: we're going to play a quick game with you, and 648 00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:29,239 Speaker 1: then we'll let you get out of here because we're 649 00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:32,520 Speaker 1: taking too much of your time and I want an 650 00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:38,080 Speaker 1: honest answer here. Okay, all right, your children when they 651 00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:39,000 Speaker 1: are of the age. 652 00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:41,160 Speaker 3: I was like, you gonna ask me who my favorite 653 00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:41,680 Speaker 3: child is? 654 00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:47,280 Speaker 2: Like real biological children, not your Bachelor Nation children. 655 00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:51,640 Speaker 1: They when they are of the age, and if they 656 00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:55,560 Speaker 1: are single, and one of them approaches you and says, hey, ma, 657 00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,640 Speaker 1: I think I'm going to go on the show. How 658 00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:02,000 Speaker 1: do you've handled that situation? 659 00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:05,960 Speaker 3: Well, maybe my daughter's talking to me. I'm sitting in 660 00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:12,399 Speaker 3: her room right now. I can't. I would be so 661 00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:14,880 Speaker 3: hypocritical if I told either one of them not to 662 00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:18,680 Speaker 3: do it. So number one, I couldn't not tell them. 663 00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:22,359 Speaker 3: I couldn't tell them now because it's how I met 664 00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:26,919 Speaker 3: their father and how they actually exist. So I mean, 665 00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:30,920 Speaker 3: you know, but I will say that I if they 666 00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:36,399 Speaker 3: wanted to. I can guarantee you that Max will never 667 00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:39,960 Speaker 3: go on a show like this. He is his father. 668 00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:45,240 Speaker 3: He yeah, definitely not drawn to that stuff. But my daughter, 669 00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:47,600 Speaker 3: on the other hand, I can I could totally see 670 00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:51,760 Speaker 3: her wanting to do something like that. We've actually talked about. 671 00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:54,640 Speaker 3: They do a dancing with a Dancing with the Stars 672 00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:58,879 Speaker 3: juniors and she's a dancer, She's a competitive dancer. And 673 00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,640 Speaker 3: I literally wrote Gina Katz, who I know is still 674 00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:04,840 Speaker 3: I probably was still doing her show when you were there. 675 00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:08,319 Speaker 3: I wrote her and I'm like, hey, if you ever 676 00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:12,200 Speaker 3: need a team, So I know that she would do 677 00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:16,920 Speaker 3: something like that or could see herself. Max definitely wouldn't, 678 00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:19,799 Speaker 3: so he's definitely not even part of this conversation. But 679 00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:22,320 Speaker 3: I would just give her a whole lot of advice. 680 00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:25,760 Speaker 3: We would have a lot of conversations about what happens 681 00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:31,240 Speaker 3: on the show. She's been back for the Bachelorette reunion. 682 00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:33,600 Speaker 3: When that happened, I think it was like four or 683 00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:38,680 Speaker 3: five years ago. She came with me, and she loves 684 00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:41,719 Speaker 3: all of those ladies. I mean, it just was the 685 00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:45,800 Speaker 3: cutest thing seeing her with Jojo and Rachel and Caitlin 686 00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:48,719 Speaker 3: and all of them. It was just really sweet. So 687 00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:52,879 Speaker 3: I could totally see her wanting to do it. Would 688 00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:55,480 Speaker 3: we be happy about it? I knew it would be 689 00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:58,440 Speaker 3: a little scary for me, but like I said, total 690 00:40:58,480 --> 00:40:59,200 Speaker 3: hypocrit If I. 691 00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:02,040 Speaker 1: Said now, I have to say it well, with the 692 00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:03,640 Speaker 1: way it sounds, I feel like Max is going to 693 00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:09,720 Speaker 1: be the one that actually does it. Imagine the greatest 694 00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:13,760 Speaker 1: bachelor of all time, the best greatest love story ever. 695 00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:17,359 Speaker 2: If we have children, I feel the same, Like I 696 00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:20,000 Speaker 2: couldn't say no. Also, they're like adults by the time 697 00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:21,319 Speaker 2: they go on the show, so like you can't really 698 00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:24,640 Speaker 2: control that. But like and obviously yes, I agree with you, 699 00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:27,200 Speaker 2: Like I would feel hypocritical we met and fell in 700 00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:30,320 Speaker 2: love on the show, but I would have so much 701 00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:35,160 Speaker 2: anxiety with that on it, Like I would be like, 702 00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:37,640 Speaker 2: are you sure, I'm sure you want to do it, 703 00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:40,040 Speaker 2: Like there's just so much that comes with it. There's 704 00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:44,600 Speaker 2: so much risk, like ye oh my god, Like I 705 00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:47,080 Speaker 2: can't imagine, but yeah, you have to say yes. I 706 00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:48,560 Speaker 2: guess we all do it. 707 00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:51,520 Speaker 3: I would have to, Like I couldn't. I couldn't say 708 00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:56,560 Speaker 3: oh no, you can't do that, like whatever. For whatever 709 00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:59,839 Speaker 3: my reasons would be, the fact of the matter is 710 00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:03,280 Speaker 3: that I actually still believe in the premise of the show. 711 00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:05,880 Speaker 3: I know, I'm old school, I am the og, the 712 00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:10,200 Speaker 3: old gal, whatever you want to call me. I believe 713 00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:13,920 Speaker 3: that people can fall in love through the show. Is 714 00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:17,239 Speaker 3: it totally untraditional? Is it totally wacky doodle crazy? Yes 715 00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:21,360 Speaker 3: it is, but I still believe that it can happen. 716 00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:25,000 Speaker 3: So because of that, if she wanted to do it, 717 00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:27,200 Speaker 3: if Max wanted to do it, then of course I. 718 00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:31,160 Speaker 1: Would nice nice. I love Dina Katz by the way. 719 00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:34,000 Speaker 1: And also, you know I met I don't know if 720 00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:37,560 Speaker 1: she was your agent or still raps you. I met 721 00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:41,600 Speaker 1: her a while back, but Perry, yeah, nice. 722 00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:48,759 Speaker 3: She was actually involved in the wedding negotiations. So she 723 00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:54,640 Speaker 3: was with me way back in the day. Yes, she's awesome. Cool. 724 00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:57,439 Speaker 2: Okay, wait one question before we do the game. I'm sorry, 725 00:42:57,480 --> 00:42:59,080 Speaker 2: I always do this. Joe will be like one last 726 00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:02,320 Speaker 2: question and then I'll be wait, no, one actual last question. 727 00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:05,960 Speaker 2: So our wedding is coming up, it's in like a 728 00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:11,239 Speaker 2: month ish. Do you have any wedding tips twenty year 729 00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:15,200 Speaker 2: marriage tips for us going into this time? 730 00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:21,080 Speaker 3: Yeah? One? Okay. So I'm so excited for you guys. 731 00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:22,960 Speaker 3: I think you for some reason, I thought you were 732 00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:23,560 Speaker 3: already married. 733 00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:28,719 Speaker 1: Yes, clearly the ceremony. 734 00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:34,759 Speaker 3: Okay, that's what. Okay, that's right. So I asked one 735 00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:38,399 Speaker 3: of my best friends for dad was celebrating like their 736 00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:41,600 Speaker 3: fiftieth wedding industry or something, and I asked him what 737 00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:46,719 Speaker 3: his advice was, and he had like five things, but 738 00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:52,400 Speaker 3: one of them was forgiveness. And it's not like in 739 00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:55,680 Speaker 3: terms of like with Xavier, like the big kind of 740 00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:59,680 Speaker 3: infidelities like, obviously that's something that the couple would have 741 00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:06,040 Speaker 3: to work, but I feel like I have to and 742 00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:09,640 Speaker 3: Ryan has to too, because we are not perfect. We 743 00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:12,280 Speaker 3: are human, and we have bad days and we feel 744 00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:16,759 Speaker 3: like crap some days, and sometimes we just wake up 745 00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:18,520 Speaker 3: on the wrong side of the bed. Sometimes we have 746 00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:23,120 Speaker 3: too much stress going on whatever. Sometimes we say stuff 747 00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:26,960 Speaker 3: that we don't mean that is hurtful to the other person. 748 00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:29,439 Speaker 3: We ignore the other person because we have something else 749 00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:34,480 Speaker 3: that's a priority in that moment. And so I think 750 00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:37,960 Speaker 3: that forgiveness is huge, just forgiving each other for the 751 00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:40,239 Speaker 3: little moments that you've for each other's feelings, you know, 752 00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:45,880 Speaker 3: for whatever reason, I feel like for any in any 753 00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:50,400 Speaker 3: part of your relationship that's important, but especially the longer 754 00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:55,160 Speaker 3: you are together, you know, because you get comfortable and 755 00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:57,920 Speaker 3: you treat the people that you love the most the 756 00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:01,319 Speaker 3: worst sometimes because you are so comfortable in that relationship. So, 757 00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:05,920 Speaker 3: you know, I just think it's about the little forgivenesses 758 00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:09,360 Speaker 3: every day, every week, every month, whatever, whenever they happen. 759 00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:11,399 Speaker 3: And hopefully you guys won't have to forgive each other 760 00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:17,600 Speaker 3: for anything, but just knowing that you're human and and 761 00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:19,880 Speaker 3: you both are going to have bad days in the future, 762 00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:23,960 Speaker 3: hopefully not as many as good days. But just forgiving 763 00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:25,239 Speaker 3: each other for that's great. 764 00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:29,080 Speaker 2: And I mean I have to forgive because. 765 00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:30,320 Speaker 1: I am. 766 00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:34,720 Speaker 2: We just exactly. 767 00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:36,480 Speaker 3: That. 768 00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:38,920 Speaker 2: This is the third time just called himself perfect on 769 00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:41,239 Speaker 2: this podcast today, so I'll be forgiving him for that 770 00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:42,160 Speaker 2: at the end of. 771 00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:46,919 Speaker 1: This love all right, We're gonna do a little quick 772 00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:51,120 Speaker 1: game Trista's rapid Fire first and it comes to your head. 773 00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:52,560 Speaker 2: All easy, fun questions. 774 00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:53,880 Speaker 1: You want to shoot uIP, you go? 775 00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:56,680 Speaker 2: Sure, I got it? Okay. What is the first thing 776 00:45:56,680 --> 00:46:00,360 Speaker 2: you do when you wake up in the morning. I 777 00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:02,960 Speaker 2: shouldn't say it, but look at my phone? 778 00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:05,160 Speaker 1: Normal, that's normal. We all do it. 779 00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:06,600 Speaker 2: How do you like your pizza? 780 00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:11,719 Speaker 3: Eh? Oh god, I learned a lesson or chief. Aren't 781 00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:12,400 Speaker 3: you from Chicago? 782 00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:13,200 Speaker 1: Yeah? 783 00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:19,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I do. Oh sorry, I'm from Saint Louis. Emo's 784 00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:25,480 Speaker 3: pizza it is real. I'm sure you hate it. It's 785 00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:27,840 Speaker 3: not Deep Dish Chicago, and I do love Deep Dish, 786 00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:32,399 Speaker 3: but Emo's is my favorite. It's provel cheese. 787 00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:35,799 Speaker 1: It is the strangest tasting pizza ever. 788 00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:36,640 Speaker 2: Have you had it? 789 00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:39,080 Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah? 790 00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:41,320 Speaker 2: Oh my god? Is that the one you went with? 791 00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:41,839 Speaker 3: Uh? 792 00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:44,520 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. That's so funny. 793 00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:46,480 Speaker 1: I've heard about this pizza, but I get it, like 794 00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:48,279 Speaker 1: if you're from there, you love it, and that I 795 00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:49,920 Speaker 1: understand that Ryan. 796 00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:53,360 Speaker 3: Hates it, so he and he's not from there, So yeah, that's. 797 00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:56,600 Speaker 2: A hometown thing. What is the best dating advice you 798 00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:58,880 Speaker 2: ever received? Are the best marriage advice? 799 00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:04,439 Speaker 3: Pick the one that you're that you can't without, can't. 800 00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:08,680 Speaker 2: What is your go to cocktail? M? 801 00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:12,120 Speaker 3: Moscowel, Oh, that's a lovely gingereer. 802 00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:15,520 Speaker 2: Who is one person living or not that you would 803 00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:16,520 Speaker 2: like to have dinner with? 804 00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:27,680 Speaker 3: Oh, it's actually my grandparents. The anniversary today Both of 805 00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:30,200 Speaker 3: my grandparents on my mom's side and my dad's side 806 00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:35,760 Speaker 3: are have passed and I feel like it is their birthday, 807 00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:39,160 Speaker 3: so I would love to do a little joint. 808 00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:41,680 Speaker 2: Oh that's nice. My answer to that would be my 809 00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:46,520 Speaker 2: grandma too. What is one word or phrase that your 810 00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:54,800 Speaker 2: friends used to describe you loyal? 811 00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:58,960 Speaker 3: Loyal? That's me and I have to say my grandparents 812 00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:01,680 Speaker 3: are who I named we named our daughter after. 813 00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:10,240 Speaker 2: Really that's beautiful. Okay, do you have any bad habits? 814 00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:12,600 Speaker 2: Who does it? 815 00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:15,360 Speaker 3: If you don't, what's your secret? 816 00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:16,920 Speaker 2: If you don't, you're a liar. 817 00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:24,759 Speaker 3: I take my nails. So these are like glue on. Yeah, 818 00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:28,520 Speaker 3: they helped me to not take my nail my worst 819 00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:29,080 Speaker 3: habit I hate. 820 00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:31,319 Speaker 2: I feel like people that have the habit of doing 821 00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:34,040 Speaker 2: their nails. It's like you either have it or you don't. 822 00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:35,920 Speaker 2: If you do it, it's like so addicting, Like I've 823 00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:38,000 Speaker 2: never thought it picking my nails in my life. But 824 00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:40,440 Speaker 2: then I have a friend that does really bad and 825 00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:42,880 Speaker 2: she's like, I can't stop for lifeing. I love it. 826 00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:45,520 Speaker 3: It's me. Yeah, I hate it, hate it. I wish 827 00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:48,319 Speaker 3: I could change it. I'm fifty years old, haven't been 828 00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:49,160 Speaker 3: able to figure it out. 829 00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:52,719 Speaker 2: So yeah, I hate to love it. What is your 830 00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:53,759 Speaker 2: go to karaoke song? 831 00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:57,680 Speaker 3: I do not seem Carrio, No. 832 00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:02,160 Speaker 2: Never even after moscows. 833 00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:06,000 Speaker 3: Ah yeah no no. And because my husband would kill 834 00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:07,760 Speaker 3: me if we went to karaoke. 835 00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:11,480 Speaker 2: Like okay, Joe and I would never drag Joe to karaoke, 836 00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:12,520 Speaker 2: which just never happened. 837 00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:13,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, there you go. 838 00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:17,880 Speaker 2: What is your current screensaver on your phone? 839 00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:23,719 Speaker 3: It is this. It's like a a hike that we 840 00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:29,640 Speaker 3: went on Feaver Lake in Colorado, Like all the Flowers. 841 00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:31,400 Speaker 1: Is in Colorado. 842 00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:35,439 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, is that where your husband's from? 843 00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:39,640 Speaker 3: He's from Fort Collins, which is where Colorado State is, 844 00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:43,840 Speaker 3: and then he went to see you. He moved to 845 00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:48,080 Speaker 3: Vale before I met him, and then we've been here 846 00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:52,440 Speaker 3: for twenty years. We're actually moving to Denver, which is 847 00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:56,000 Speaker 3: a whole other story, but for multiple, multiple reasons. But 848 00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:58,760 Speaker 3: we do truly love the mountains. It's just beautiful. 849 00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:02,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, that'd be great, we should go. I've never I 850 00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:04,360 Speaker 2: was gonna say I've never been, but I feel like 851 00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:07,160 Speaker 2: I would love it. It's kind of giving Canadian vibes. 852 00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:11,200 Speaker 3: I mean I can show you like out my window. Yeah, 853 00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:13,480 Speaker 3: it's just oh my gosh. 854 00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:15,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, it little looks like Canada. 855 00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:21,120 Speaker 3: It's it's really pretty. I love it. And this summer 856 00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:23,560 Speaker 3: so what the phrase is that you come for the 857 00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:24,960 Speaker 3: winter and you stay for the summer. 858 00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:29,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, it make summer people smell cigarettes. 859 00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:33,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, it doesn't smell. It doesn't smell like where you 860 00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:35,200 Speaker 2: are here. Like we stepped out of a car the 861 00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:37,439 Speaker 2: other day and our friend Natasha goes and we're back 862 00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:41,920 Speaker 2: in the city. It smells like gasoline and urine. You're like, 863 00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:44,040 Speaker 2: yayay yay. 864 00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:46,840 Speaker 3: That is actually something that when you step off a 865 00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:51,120 Speaker 3: plane in Colorado, like you're like, oh, yeah, no pollution, 866 00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:52,200 Speaker 3: no nothing. 867 00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:56,200 Speaker 2: It's really fresh and that is very nice and probably 868 00:50:56,239 --> 00:51:00,120 Speaker 2: a lot healthier for you. Okay. Last question is if 869 00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:02,359 Speaker 2: you could visit anywhere in the world, where would you go? 870 00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:10,040 Speaker 3: Oh? Wow, too many places. Maybe back to Fiji, Like 871 00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:12,319 Speaker 3: I'm getting these Fiji vibes. Ryan and I went on 872 00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:14,680 Speaker 3: our honeymoon to Fiji, and now that charity is there, 873 00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:15,920 Speaker 3: I kind of want. 874 00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:18,920 Speaker 2: To go back. I was just saying, we're going to 875 00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:20,200 Speaker 2: change the honeymoon. 876 00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:23,719 Speaker 1: Don't start. I took I took months planning this. 877 00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:27,320 Speaker 2: Honeymoon, and Joe has changed our unband so many times 878 00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:29,200 Speaker 2: of like, can we just change it one more time? 879 00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:30,200 Speaker 2: We can go to Fiji? 880 00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:35,080 Speaker 3: Now, right, where are you guys going? Can you say Italy? 881 00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:40,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're doing. We're doing Lake Como, Florence, and Tuscany, 882 00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:42,719 Speaker 2: which are all places in Italy that we've never been. 883 00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:45,360 Speaker 2: So actually I've been to Florence once for like a 884 00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:47,280 Speaker 2: half day. But yeah, we're very excited. 885 00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:51,720 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, love it and the food like come on, yeah. 886 00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:54,120 Speaker 2: Oh yeah. All of our dinner reservations I believe are booked. 887 00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:54,919 Speaker 2: There are there. 888 00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:55,640 Speaker 1: I booked everything. 889 00:51:57,719 --> 00:51:58,440 Speaker 2: He's amazing. 890 00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:02,240 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, I got trained for pation book dinners, everything, 891 00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:03,840 Speaker 1: I know everywhere to go for everything. 892 00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:07,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I love it. You got you a key bursary. 893 00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:10,040 Speaker 2: He is the travel agent of the relationship, which is 894 00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:11,080 Speaker 2: the best thing ever. 895 00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:17,040 Speaker 1: Well, Trista, Honestly, this was incredibly fun and enjoyable. Thank 896 00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:21,240 Speaker 1: you so much for being here, and to our listeners, 897 00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:23,760 Speaker 1: thank you guys for tuning in. Without you, we wouldn't 898 00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:24,120 Speaker 1: be here. 899 00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:28,279 Speaker 2: And don't forget. Next week is the mental all, so 900 00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:30,719 Speaker 2: make sure to tune in on Monday at eight seven 901 00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:32,840 Speaker 2: Central on ABC and then stream the next day on 902 00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:36,319 Speaker 2: Hulu to see Charity reunited with all the men and 903 00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:38,000 Speaker 2: also reunited with Trista. 904 00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:41,080 Speaker 1: Yes, and make sure to tune in to new episodes 905 00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:43,360 Speaker 1: of Batchelor Happy Hour every week. We're going to have 906 00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:45,680 Speaker 1: some great guests now. We got all kinds of exclusive 907 00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:49,840 Speaker 1: interviews coming up, so you don't want to forget to subscribe. 908 00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:53,839 Speaker 2: Thanks again, everyone, see you next time. Bye bye, Thanks 909 00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:58,920 Speaker 2: for having you.