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Speaker 1: Yo, yo yo.

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Speaker 2: We live on location with another Knuckleheads classic for this episode. Hey, man,

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Speaker 2: it's all d Miles. Man, you got your brother from

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Speaker 2: another mother. You the blackest one, he the blackest one.

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Speaker 2: What's going on?

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Speaker 1: Who is it?

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Speaker 3: Man?

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Speaker 4: We got Tim Thomas black on Black. Tim Thomas one

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Speaker 4: of the best high school players I've ever seen in

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Speaker 4: my life, Like man, one of the coldest dudes I've

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Speaker 4: ever seen in high school. Man, he was doing everything

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Speaker 4: and he's one of my favorite Hoopers of all time. Man,

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Speaker 4: Philly boy, you don't represent man Tim Thomas. Man, just

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Speaker 4: the episode was just crazy just to talk to Tim

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Speaker 4: Thomas and had these conversations with Tim Thumps, the relationships

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Speaker 4: you have and how he liked me, liking black on Black.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Man, it was dope to him, Like he's one

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Speaker 2: of them guys. Really got to play against a young

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Speaker 2: Kobe and came up in that era. He's from Jersey, man,

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Speaker 2: he represents now. Moved back to Jersey, got an academy,

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Speaker 2: got schools, got a program there, doing his thing.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 2: Tim, I had the fortunate being his teammate in New York,

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Speaker 2: got a chance to know him a little bit better.

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Speaker 1: But Man, like you said, one of the.

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Speaker 2: Absolute coldest high school players I've ever seen. How people say,

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Speaker 2: like this dude is a youth like he was six'

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Speaker 2: nine and not little. I can't tell you his way,

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Speaker 2: but he was six' nine and then everything was. Easy

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Speaker 2: he could do, everything, handle, shoot, score, dribble, post, rebound block.

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Speaker 2: Shots he did. Everything but BLACK i, KNOW i know

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Speaker 2: this one was special to. You this is your brother in, black,

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Speaker 2: Man so tell me what he meant to you and your,

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Speaker 2: career because he's one of them high school phenoms like

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Speaker 2: you that paved the way for everything you did to

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Speaker 2: kind of be. Possible he laid some bricks in that.

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Speaker 2: Foundation even though he didn't go straight out of high

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Speaker 2: school he could.

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Speaker 3: Have, YEAH i never had a chance to see him in.

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Speaker 4: Person it's just THAT i had a homeboy that used

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Speaker 4: to HAVE vcr. Tapes and for some of you young

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Speaker 4: you and these v just.

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Speaker 2: Tape, boy you believe and what did you? Have a

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Speaker 2: combo TO tv and in THE, vca both of.

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Speaker 4: Them get you getting, old, man you know you you,

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Speaker 4: know but THESE vcr Tape my homeboy had SOME vcr

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Speaker 4: tapes of his.

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Speaker 1: Games, MAN i.

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Speaker 4: Just seen, it probably about three or four of his

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Speaker 4: games and, man the way he, played how he, played

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Speaker 4: the swag he had and all that. STUFF i just

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Speaker 4: had to add it to my game man and go.

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Speaker 4: Out and he was black like. Me so this Episode july,

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Speaker 4: fourteenth twenty, twenty, man check this, Out Tim.

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Speaker 1: Thumps first question we.

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Speaker 4: Asked everybody when they come on the show is when

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Speaker 4: you first got to the.

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Speaker 3: League who was the first person to bust your straight straight?

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Speaker 3: Too Steve? SMITH.

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Speaker 4: Snittyt, yeah it was, slow but it was right to the.

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Speaker 3: Point.

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Speaker 5: Man you, Know steve was great in the pick and roll.

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Speaker 5: Setting you, know another six eighty sixty nine guy get

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Speaker 5: a shot off and he only, needed you, know so

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Speaker 5: much room to get a shot. OFF i just couldn't

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Speaker 5: figure it. OUT i do remember my first four preseason.

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Speaker 5: Games first game At North, carolina we played The.

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Speaker 3: Bulls and then we went To New.

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Speaker 5: York then we came, home played The, pistons and then

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Speaker 5: we played In atlanta And SMITTY i think that game

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Speaker 5: had about.

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Speaker 3: Forty maybe thirty.

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Speaker 5: Five it was preseason, early so he was it was

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Speaker 5: getting getting himself Going mookie back in.

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Speaker 3: The, Day.

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Speaker 1: Yo yo yo live on.

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Speaker 2: Location me And Dean, MILES i stay in our asses

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Speaker 2: at home here In, orlando trying to stay, safe and

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Speaker 2: we got our og big, Brother New Jersey, Legend New

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Speaker 2: jersey player in the building with us.

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Speaker 1: Live on location From La.

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Speaker 2: California Tim thomas in the, building y'all what it?

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Speaker 1: Do T what's?

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Speaker 3: Up? Fellas what's going?

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Speaker 4: On WHEN i was coming up, early it was three

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Speaker 4: guys that was my skin, color that was sh hey

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Speaker 4: and you one of them, Guys kemp one of them,

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Speaker 4: guys and going that one of them. Guys WHEN i

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Speaker 4: first seen tape on you in high, school it was just, like,

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Speaker 4: man that dude looked exactly like. ME i want to

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Speaker 4: be like that. Dude smooth as, hell you know What i'm. Saying,

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Speaker 4: Patison New? Jersey how was it going to pass In

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Speaker 4: catholic and doing what you did In Peasant Patterson general

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Speaker 4: In New jersey is Like East Saint louis And.

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Speaker 3: Chicago exactly exactly Passing? Catholic how was that it was?

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Speaker 5: Different because the two dominant schools Was Eastside high where

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Speaker 5: they have the Infamous lean On me, movie and Then

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Speaker 5: Kennedy High, school so those schools was well, established and

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Speaker 5: then going to pass The catholic was something totally, different something.

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Speaker 5: Totally you, know they was known as Punk city because

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Speaker 5: they had the best looking girls and.

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Speaker 3: All that kind of. Stuff so going in just changing

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Speaker 3: the culture was.

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Speaker 5: Everything and then you, know being the number one freshman

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Speaker 5: in the country it kind of helped as. Well SO

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Speaker 5: i was considered like The tony soprano Of New jersey

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Speaker 5: at that particular, time and coming To New jersey to see,

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Speaker 5: me you, know knowing did they wanted us to.

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Speaker 3: Come and see.

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Speaker 5: Them so in the four year, span got rest is.

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Speaker 5: Soul in the four year, span me And kobe was

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Speaker 5: one and two in the.

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Speaker 3: Country, right we an.

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Speaker 5: Hour and a half away from each. Other never played

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Speaker 5: a game against each. Other that's crazy.

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Speaker 4: Together, though yeah we played au ball, together but that

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Speaker 4: was you, know a little.

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Speaker 5: Younger But i'm talking like our high school, days, right

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Speaker 5: been one on, one you, KNOW i was half.

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Speaker 3: Away from each. Other never made it.

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Speaker 2: Happen That that is. Crazy so how about this do you?

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Speaker 2: REMEMBER i CAN'T i want to say it. Was it

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Speaker 2: had to be ninety, six ninety seven y'all came To

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Speaker 2: chicago for The hoops and The loop classic. Bruh now

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Speaker 2: this the first TIME i see you in. Person i'm young,

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Speaker 2: BOY i was with them at fifteen sixteen freshman SOPHOMORE

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Speaker 2: i THINK i was a. Sophomore Then i'm up in

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Speaker 2: that joint and they were, like, yeah it's you, Know Tim,

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Speaker 2: thomas blah, blah you know you and what was his?

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Speaker 2: Name Kevin Kevin. Freeman Kevin freeman had stupid bounced. Too

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Speaker 2: these like the first two, DUDES i seem, like, yo

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Speaker 2: these dudes look like, pros like grown me. In Kevin

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Speaker 2: freeman was like six six thieves throwing that. Thing this

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Speaker 2: man like six nine sixteen just, Look i'm talking about

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Speaker 2: everything about.

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Speaker 1: It he was physically bigger than.

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Speaker 2: Everybody he had the lightest like thirty whatever or forty

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Speaker 2: whateaven like fifteen twenty, boys and ALL i remember is

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Speaker 2: the head just bopping while he ran it down, school hitting,

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Speaker 2: threes posting people up like catching.

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Speaker 1: The, ball just like oh they.

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Speaker 2: Little he just looking like his face, expression everything's like this.

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Speaker 2: LIGHT i was, like dude Till i'll never. Forget after,

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Speaker 2: THAT i was like Ten thomas the coldest high school

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Speaker 2: Flaer i've ever seen in Person at that, Point, Bro,

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Speaker 2: like how was that when you came To, chicago like

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Speaker 2: with that one of the few, times or did y'all

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Speaker 2: travel out the state a.

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Speaker 5: Lot, now we always traveled out of the state to,

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Speaker 5: play you, know against the best teams in the best

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Speaker 5: showcases of.

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Speaker 3: Tournaments being In chicago was.

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Speaker 5: Cool we just heard a lot of talk About Ronnie

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Speaker 5: fields AND kg and a lot of people wanted us

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Speaker 5: to play in that particular. TOURNAMENT i don't think discuss

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Speaker 5: word out BECAUSE i believe they went.

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Speaker 3: Somewhere it was, cool, Man it was. COOL i, Mean

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Speaker 3: chicago has a lot of.

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Speaker 5: HISTORY i mean it's, hard you, know with the game

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Speaker 5: and as many players as you guys put in the

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Speaker 5: lead and all that kind of.

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Speaker 3: Stuff so it was cool to be In, chicago.

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Speaker 1: Man, yeah how was?

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Speaker 3: It, like you, Know East.

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Speaker 4: St louis is a, small small city and it's in

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Speaker 4: Between Saint louis and it's in Between, chicago and to

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Speaker 4: be in a small town to get fame like you

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Speaker 4: in THE nba but you actually just in high, School,

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Speaker 4: like how was that experience For we had a few.

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Speaker 5: Guys we had a few guys come before, Me Roy

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Speaker 5: sparrow who went to The hall he still works in THE. Nba,

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Speaker 5: yeah The White wilver who went TO nova as. Well

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Speaker 5: and then my Guy James scott went To Saint john's

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Speaker 5: and played with The Miami heat for like two.

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Speaker 3: Years no one has done it Like i've done.

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Speaker 5: It on the scale as far as you, know being

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Speaker 5: a senior in high school have an opportunity to you,

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Speaker 5: know go straight to the lead and all that kind of.

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Speaker 3: Stuff it was.

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Speaker 5: DIFFERENT i think, overall it definitely put our city back

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Speaker 5: for some of the youngsters that came behind.

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Speaker 2: Me you, know, hey you came up in that era

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Speaker 2: where you, know the basketball camps and the. Ds this

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Speaker 2: was when the legendary it, was the legend was made.

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Speaker 2: Up SO i want to know BECAUSE i KNOW i

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Speaker 2: came the following, year the year, BEFORE i heard how

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Speaker 2: epic it was with, You cobe and then all of

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Speaker 2: the young guys That elden that was there my, year

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Speaker 2: but they were a year. Younger so tell me how

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Speaker 2: was that when you set foot in that set and

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Speaker 2: you knew this was where your proven grounds was gonna.

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Speaker 1: Be how was that experience for?

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Speaker 3: You i'll tell you. What the kids up today wouldn't

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Speaker 5: SURVIVE i wouldn't be able to survive it at. ALL

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Speaker 5: i mean it. Was it was, war. HONESTLY i mean

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Speaker 5: each and every game you was really going up against

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Speaker 5: somebody that was.

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Speaker 1: Adult.

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Speaker 5: Yeah it's not like now where you could hide in

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Speaker 5: the Under armored circuit or The nike circuit up things like.

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Speaker 5: THAT i mean you had to face, guys no matter

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Speaker 5: if it was in THE aau sentence or.

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Speaker 1: Camp you had to run.

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Speaker 5: Into those guys and you had to show. Improve it was, war,

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Speaker 5: man it was. WAR i mean it was. Competitive guys

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Speaker 5: didn't care about names. Ranked, man you, know when you're

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Speaker 5: going up against, somebody that's just what it. IS i

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Speaker 5: remember MY i think it was our junior year going

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Speaker 5: into our senior year AT abc, Camp kobe actually took

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Speaker 5: over the number one. RANK i was playing At jermaine o'

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Speaker 5: nail AND i was tearing him. Up dump the ball

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Speaker 5: wrapped my finger nail off AND i couldn't play anymore

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Speaker 5: the rest of the, camp And kobe was just. Killing

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Speaker 5: i'm sitting on the side just watching, them you, know.

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Speaker 5: Kill but, yeah, man these kids up, today, man they

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Speaker 5: wouldn't be able to. Survive back, then the WAY au,

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Speaker 5: was it was like the wild Wild.

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Speaker 3: Win Oh, man ninety six was? Cool.

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Speaker 4: Man we played down at The university of Pitt LIKE

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Speaker 5: And, kobe our rooms was probably like four rooms. Apart

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Speaker 5: Man it was the first time for a lot of

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Speaker 3: Talent for, ME i saw what it was.

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Speaker 5: ABOUT i just wanted to showcase to everyone that you,

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Speaker 4: nba Players like kareem was, Out There grant hell, Was There,

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Speaker 5: With them get some insight on our decision was. Very

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Speaker 3: His decision i'm going straight to.

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Speaker 2: The, league hey how cool was it when you was

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Speaker 5: Those, things yeah a lot, of us, you know went

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Speaker 3: I got my budget on.

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Speaker 5: The right but it was one of those experiences for

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Speaker 4: The, CEOs, yeah donald, you know getting that, free food fries,

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Speaker 5: EVERYTHING man i mean they really make you feel like

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Speaker 4: Around you you was already equipped with that SHIT like

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Speaker 5: Choose, villanova well the thing about the whole pro thing,

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Speaker 3: With that but the whole pro THING was i wanted

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Speaker 5: Any draft so the year, ninety six Me and kobe

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Speaker 5: The alvin williams guys that was considered to. Be Pros

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Speaker 5: Played With, shaheen HOLLOWAY but i chose, to go, you

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Speaker 5: Chose, Villanova also lapis was going to allow me to

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Speaker 5: you know allowed me to play, the THREE and i

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Speaker 5: I went I, Went philly, jersey twice And then Boston

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Speaker 5: with boston, YOU know i kind Of Ate brick patino

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Speaker 5: all the Way to kentucky For a. Boston workout just

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Speaker 3: Like that so you Being in.

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Speaker 4: Philly and you get Drafted, for, philly like was you

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Speaker 4: excited to be After.

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Speaker 5: With phil man actually being, drafted seventh actually got drafted

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Speaker 5: to the home Team To new, Jersey first Keith van horne.

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Speaker 1: Got drafted, that's right.

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Speaker 4: That's, right Yeah but Keith van horn had the, power

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Speaker 5: Got traded actually on, draft day, for me it was

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Speaker 5: The, ground man he just, try to, you know run

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Speaker 5: IT man i thought THAT if i would have Stayed,

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Speaker 3: Numbers right and that's no Knock.

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Speaker 5: You know so it was just, you know for me

441
00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:40,080
Speaker 5: being close, to home being in the AREA where I

442
00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:41,919
Speaker 5: knew i'm going to school there and.

443
00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:43,679
Speaker 3: ALL that, i mean it just. Made sense it. Was

444
00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:44,640
Speaker 3: perfect we.

445
00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:49,040
Speaker 4: Got in the league in two thousand And the lakers

446
00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:49,760
Speaker 4: ran off.

447
00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:52,800
Speaker 3: Three straight but that year we watched so.

448
00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:56,760
Speaker 4: Much basketball but that year the only TEAM that i

449
00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:59,159
Speaker 4: felt could beat them Was.

450
00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:01,720
Speaker 3: The bucks When you sam, could.

451
00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:06,360
Speaker 4: Say big, dog like y'all's why was equipped to? Beat

452
00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:10,040
Speaker 4: them and y'all beat, them TWICE like i think, years yeah,

453
00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:12,960
Speaker 4: you know like we're watching, the GAME and i Felt

454
00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:14,240
Speaker 4: like philadelphia.

455
00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:15,440
Speaker 3: Cheated y'all.

456
00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:20,160
Speaker 4: There was a lot of conspiracy behind That them bucks

457
00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:23,680
Speaker 4: Teams with Ray and sam and You And big dog

458
00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,480
Speaker 4: and like all that y'all was trying to get over

459
00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:29,879
Speaker 4: there HUMP because i felt like y'all was like we

460
00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:33,240
Speaker 4: used to call y'all two point, Geez is like none

461
00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:37,280
Speaker 4: of y'all missed like so well for ME when i got,

462
00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:39,159
Speaker 4: TRADED there i never really wanted to.

463
00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:40,280
Speaker 3: BE there i was trying to.

464
00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:44,840
Speaker 1: Get out They want nobody wanted to Go. To milwaukee it.

465
00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:46,560
Speaker 5: Wasn't because of. The city it was just because of.

466
00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:50,040
Speaker 5: The team talk, about Yeah and, i'm like You Have.

467
00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:53,320
Speaker 5: Big dog he's still, you know in, his contract so he's,

468
00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:56,359
Speaker 5: gonna play, you know the money plays me for. The

469
00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:58,919
Speaker 5: talent and then You, had ray, who was, you know

470
00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:01,800
Speaker 5: trying to stablish yourself and He had sam coming off

471
00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:05,160
Speaker 5: of WINNING two. Nba Championships so, i'm.

472
00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:06,600
Speaker 3: Like these Guys are.

473
00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:08,919
Speaker 4: THEY'RE enough i don't need to, Be here like you

474
00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:11,159
Speaker 4: could have sent Me to memphis and, let me, you

475
00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:13,439
Speaker 4: know figure, it out because all my peers was in

476
00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:15,400
Speaker 4: position where they was able.

477
00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:17,760
Speaker 3: To go out and do, their THING and, i, am

478
00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:18,680
Speaker 3: YEAH here i.

479
00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:22,679
Speaker 5: Am Coming from PHILLY where i can do my thing a,

480
00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:25,280
Speaker 5: little bit and then now Waring to milwaukee and now

481
00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:27,760
Speaker 5: got to figure out the six. Man role so it,

482
00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:30,840
Speaker 5: was difficult but we had some. Great runs we kept

483
00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:34,840
Speaker 5: running into That talented. Indiana team detroit used to beat,

484
00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:37,480
Speaker 5: us up never wanted to let us in. The playoffs

485
00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:40,000
Speaker 5: AND then I just i really still to this day

486
00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,199
Speaker 5: don't know how we Lost, to philly, You know.

487
00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:45,600
Speaker 4: Combince FINALS but I mean allen was just, you know

488
00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:48,119
Speaker 4: terrific at that, particular time and it was he was a.

489
00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:51,480
Speaker 4: Natural killer we was. Right there it was a very very,

490
00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:53,640
Speaker 4: talented team but we just never could get over.

491
00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:56,440
Speaker 2: That hump that's a different, perspective though that you're given

492
00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:58,440
Speaker 2: as far, as LIKE because i never thought about it

493
00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:00,560
Speaker 2: how you just said it when you, WENT that i was, just,

494
00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:02,280
Speaker 2: thinking man they about To get. Tim tims they about

495
00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:04,320
Speaker 2: to be even. More loaded but you're not thinking. About

496
00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:06,840
Speaker 2: it i'm not looking at IT if i look at it.

497
00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:09,120
Speaker 2: For me, you know first couple years in, league now

498
00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:12,239
Speaker 2: we young guns were trying to hit this springboard and

499
00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:14,760
Speaker 2: go become who we want. To be and it's even,

500
00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:17,520
Speaker 2: more hard like, you say when you see your peers in,

501
00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:21,240
Speaker 2: them positions they being giving them opportunities to go out there.

502
00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:23,399
Speaker 1: AND sit i can remember our rookie year we On.

503
00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:25,800
Speaker 2: The clippers of course we already know going into the

504
00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:28,159
Speaker 2: season we're not gonna get, the playoffs but, you know

505
00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:30,239
Speaker 2: we excited, to play and we playing hard and. We

506
00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:33,159
Speaker 2: compete then with season, over season oh we go straight to.

507
00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,960
Speaker 2: THE crew i can remember sitting at the crib And

508
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,840
Speaker 2: Watching mo pete For the raptors be in, the PLAYOFFS

509
00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:41,359
Speaker 2: and i, was, like, dang bro like this IS what.

510
00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:42,919
Speaker 1: I wish all y'all you Know what. I'm saying he.

511
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,119
Speaker 2: Got, Drafted later I'm like i'm, back, there, Like man

512
00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:47,040
Speaker 2: i'd have went twenty two to be in the playoffs

513
00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:48,480
Speaker 2: and not like, forget it like you Know what. I'm

514
00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:52,440
Speaker 2: saying but that's definitely a different perspective, that me even as.

515
00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:54,240
Speaker 2: A player i was a young, player THEN but i

516
00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:55,000
Speaker 2: wasn't looking at it.

517
00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:55,199
Speaker 3: Like.

518
00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:58,000
Speaker 5: That, YEAH yeah i was trying to, get, out MAN

519
00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:00,280
Speaker 5: because i was still in my, he.

520
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:02,600
Speaker 1: Deal, RIGHT yeah i really had.

521
00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:04,840
Speaker 3: No control so the only way to get out was to.

522
00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:05,480
Speaker 1: Be traded.

523
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:07,719
Speaker 3: YOU know i went through my ups. And, DOWNS man

524
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:09,000
Speaker 3: i was frustrated at.

525
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,840
Speaker 5: THAT time i Had, arn tellam who was really a,

526
00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:15,119
Speaker 5: baseball agent, you know into the, basketball world and he

527
00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:19,080
Speaker 5: signed all The, young bucks, Like Myself Kobe. TEAM matt

528
00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:23,280
Speaker 5: I believe antoine was. With Us, Antoine, walker yeah man

529
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:25,480
Speaker 5: was it. Was difficult, you know the game is, the

530
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:26,680
Speaker 5: game and he just got to figure.

531
00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:28,879
Speaker 3: It out oh, four.

532
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:32,960
Speaker 4: Five you go To, the Knicks Like, new york right

533
00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:36,760
Speaker 4: across the Wall To. New jersey how was that Being In?

534
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,600
Speaker 4: New york real real close. IN crib I know philly,

535
00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:42,840
Speaker 4: was closed but.

536
00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:43,840
Speaker 5: It, was, everything man growing up As a, knicks fan,

537
00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:46,320
Speaker 5: you know having a couple of opportunities in high school

538
00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:48,520
Speaker 5: to play in, the garden but to put.

539
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:51,840
Speaker 3: On that, next, gear man it meant everything. To me.

540
00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:54,439
Speaker 5: The family it was just like a, you know a

541
00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:56,080
Speaker 5: dream come too when you could play for the.

542
00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:59,960
Speaker 3: Home team, YOU know i thought that we had a talented.

543
00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:03,560
Speaker 5: Team, early on a lot of, veteran guys but we

544
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:05,399
Speaker 5: was kind of banged up a. Little bit but it

545
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:07,879
Speaker 5: was a thrill man to be able to be home and,

546
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:10,600
Speaker 5: you know be in that environment playing the guard and.

547
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,720
Speaker 5: Get booed you know all of that kind of that comes, with,

548
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:16,080
Speaker 5: it man, you know so it was.

549
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,879
Speaker 2: Great tell people about you, just said like being in

550
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 2: the guard and they, get booed and just you Being

551
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:24,239
Speaker 2: An East coast jersey guy knowing how. That is just

552
00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:27,240
Speaker 2: tell people how that is to be a nick and

553
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:29,440
Speaker 2: that whole VAC because i remember when we. WAS there

554
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:30,919
Speaker 2: i used to look at you. Every day it was

555
00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:33,200
Speaker 2: like me and you only got like forty games in.

556
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:36,480
Speaker 2: That season GOT but i my ever. LAST amember i

557
00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:38,720
Speaker 2: tell you this all. The Time like tim was the

558
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:42,600
Speaker 2: happiest dude all. The time tim, come in got that big,

559
00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,760
Speaker 2: cheese on like, sub doggy. Sub docky like you Know what,

560
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:48,600
Speaker 2: I'M saying, I like i'm, like yo he like man

561
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:51,600
Speaker 2: like none. Of it like you to me ward and dealt.

562
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:52,960
Speaker 1: With it you Know what. I'm saying you did. Your

563
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:53,919
Speaker 1: thing you can't put in.

564
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:56,320
Speaker 2: Your word you went to the games and then you

565
00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:58,399
Speaker 2: know you did your thing after you didn't, sweat, it

566
00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:01,119
Speaker 2: like so tell me what was your perspective on all

567
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:02,320
Speaker 2: of that and how you dealt with it?

568
00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:05,640
Speaker 5: SO well i mean, growing up you know what it's

569
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 5: about with the media and all, of that with the

570
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:08,359
Speaker 5: vibes and.

571
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:10,040
Speaker 3: Stuff there but a lot of people.

572
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 5: DON'T know i lost my sister and my cousin within

573
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:17,320
Speaker 5: a two week span from. THAT season, i mean, you,

574
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:19,960
Speaker 5: Know KID but i was just trying to hold it,

575
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 5: all in, you know for the family and just have

576
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 5: a different perspective on life AND where i was at that.

577
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 5: PARTICULAR time i remember Playing lebrono i'm. AT home i

578
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:33,440
Speaker 5: shot a straight away THREE and i hit the side

579
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:38,560
Speaker 5: of the backboard and the fans was just. Going crazy

580
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 5: i'll Never forget lebron. Ran down it, was like, come,

581
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:43,680
Speaker 5: on man you better. THAN that i know you're going through,

582
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 5: a lot but you're better. Than that and that at

583
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:49,199
Speaker 5: that point, right there it kind of flicked for ME because, i,

584
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:51,919
Speaker 5: realized like this is a game we love and, you

585
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:53,520
Speaker 5: know this is something that, you know you can get

586
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:56,440
Speaker 5: your mind. Off it, you know don't bring the death

587
00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:59,359
Speaker 5: part of it to. The arena, enjoyed it you know

588
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,879
Speaker 5: what you do with the fellas and traveling and. The

589
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,639
Speaker 5: place so that's why you always see me bubbly, LIKE,

590
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:06,920
Speaker 5: that q because it was LIKE when i was able

591
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 5: to leave the house environment and then get to work

592
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:12,919
Speaker 5: and be Around the fellasn't joking all. That stuff that

593
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 5: was my my energy. Right there that was THE vibes

594
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:17,160
Speaker 5: i needed at that. Particular time.

595
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 1: Straight up that was definitely what you.

596
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:22,160
Speaker 2: Showed Too, bro hey this IS what i wanted to, ask,

597
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:25,199
Speaker 2: you MAN because i remember when we. PLAYED together i

598
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 2: don't remember at WHAT point i figured. It out how

599
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,679
Speaker 2: did you get tight with fifty IN the g?

600
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 1: Unit MOVEMENT because i remember you.

601
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 2: Coming in you used to HAVE g uni year and

602
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 2: then fast forward to recent you get the whole power

603
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:40,359
Speaker 2: season before everybody else.

604
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:40,719
Speaker 1: Get it.

605
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 2: FITTY feet i seen it fitty to, him though he

606
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:45,919
Speaker 2: got the whole joint before it even, Come out, like

607
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:47,200
Speaker 2: yeah and you know you're gonna.

608
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,560
Speaker 1: Be solid you know you.

609
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 2: Know me i'm with YOU because i remember when we.

610
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:54,680
Speaker 2: Was there you had them come around a couple of

611
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,200
Speaker 2: TIMES and i, was, like man like ten times really Tight, with.

612
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,359
Speaker 3: Well actually what happened was the g and their office

613
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 3: is right across.

614
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 1: THE street i remember that because we used to park right.

615
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:05,960
Speaker 1: UNDER there i.

616
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 3: Used to park right up.

617
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,320
Speaker 4: Under there so one, PARTICULAR game i don't know which game,

618
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:14,399
Speaker 4: It Was lloyd banks came to an actual game and

619
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 4: the fans.

620
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:18,439
Speaker 5: Rushed them so my security went over to help them

621
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:22,480
Speaker 5: out to hold them down for that. Actual game so after,

622
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:24,120
Speaker 5: THE game i don't know if, you remember that's when

623
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:27,159
Speaker 5: that was the Time that BANKS and I believe yaloe.

624
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:28,920
Speaker 1: Was, with him came out in the, locker room, right

625
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 1: yeah and.

626
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:30,679
Speaker 3: That's when the.

627
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,720
Speaker 1: First, Introduction okay so, all, Right okay.

628
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:37,199
Speaker 5: So, from there from, that night instead of going out to,

629
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 5: EAT dinner i went straight across the street to the

630
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 5: office and THAT'S when i met fifty, and everybody and,

631
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 5: you know at that point it just became a. Family

632
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 5: thing everybody was just so down to earth and cool,

633
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 5: Whatever whatever and then, you.

634
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 3: Know they started coming around more and to more games

635
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 3: and stuff.

636
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 2: Like that we used always he always had a call,

637
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 2: over there like a fantom with the cover run. And

638
00:28:58,000 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 2: STUFF cause i remember a couple of times My partner

639
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 2: rio used to tell, him, like man if any want

640
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:03,160
Speaker 2: to want to meet you, one time want you to

641
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 2: come to the office. Or whatever we never got a

642
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 2: chance to really make. It happen but we definitely that

643
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 2: WAS like i, was, like MAN because i remember you

644
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 2: came you had used to had a. Gear ON then, i,

645
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 2: SAID yo i didn't know that was the first time

646
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 2: you met, him though when they, Came IN like i

647
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 2: thought you had already knew him already.

648
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 5: And, everything yeah that was that was the very. First

649
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 5: time and you know that's when he was super. Super hot,

650
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 5: you know That's when, i'm there, you know going across

651
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 5: the street and you don't finally getting a chance to,

652
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 5: meet him.

653
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 3: Just the way. We, Vibe man it's just, you know it's.

654
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 4: JUST cool i still got my rebox gus to, this day.

655
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 3: Caught us, You guys jordan babies and you let that. It's.

656
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 2: Over hey look you, Know me i'm straight up. And

657
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 2: down you see you see behind me first.

658
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 1: And last you Know what.

659
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 3: I'm saying that's some great pictures.

660
00:29:55,760 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 4: Right there How roller coasters a season for you to

661
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 4: go to three different cities and you just Explaining From

662
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:14,280
Speaker 4: New york Chicago. To, Phoenix, man, Yeah YEAH.

663
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 5: Well i Was In new YORK and i was coming off,

664
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 5: the books meaning that was the last year My dial

665
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 5: chicago was always. Upsetting ME Because bj armstrong, will retired

666
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 5: Turned agent art to tell him my free, agency year

667
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 5: went back and Told the BULLS that i was coming To.

668
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:31,040
Speaker 3: THE bulls i was.

669
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 5: GONNA sign i believe at that time it was after

670
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 5: Me And eddie jones come after the team that broke up,

671
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 5: and everything and that's when they bring in the Young

672
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 5: fellas tyson and.

673
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:43,239
Speaker 3: Testing all.

674
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:47,480
Speaker 5: Those guys, but yeah.

675
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 2: That's the FORGOT time ej And the. BULLS uniform i

676
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 2: likewaight forgot, about?

677
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 1: That.

678
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 3: Man, Yeah yeah so that. Was that That was.

679
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 5: Daybrookie year AND then i, was Like now i'll go Back,

680
00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 5: to milwaukee try to, you know get deep in the

681
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 5: playoffs again or. Whatever whatever, but, no MAN once i Got,

682
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 5: to chicago it, was basically, you know it was putting

683
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:07,959
Speaker 5: me on the shelf due TO what.

684
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 3: Bj said so it, was like, you know you're not gonna.

685
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 3: PLAY here i.

686
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 5: Believe That Was derrick rose rookie year or his. Second

687
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 5: year it was, basically, like, look man you're not gonna.

688
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 5: Play here and They Had scott skiles There and, i'm like,

689
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 5: you was, you know got caught as an alcoholic back in,

690
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 5: the day and you're trying to, you know tell the,

691
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 5: old vet, you know some of these young things to

692
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 5: do and stuff.

693
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 3: Like that so.

694
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 5: She just trying to get up out. Of there and

695
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 5: then once they finally, released me they made me. Go

696
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 5: west SO initially i was gonna Go To san antonio

697
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 5: because at, That Time san antonio was going TO the

698
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 5: chip almost. Every Year but phoenix was a great opportunity

699
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 5: because the big guys, Was Hurt kurt.

700
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 3: Thomas and stat was hurt at.

701
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 4: That time so they, basically, said look if you, come

702
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:59,720
Speaker 4: in you're gonna play, right away thirty games left and then,

703
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 4: you know hopefully we have a nice run in. The

704
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 4: playoffs and that's how. It, happened man it.

705
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,720
Speaker 5: Was crazy the most important thing for me was just

706
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 5: trying to find a way to stay.

707
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 3: In shape, you know It. Was, tony yeah this was the.

708
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 2: Crazy part this was the STRETCH where i call it amazing,

709
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 2: because like as tough as, it was you went to all,

710
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 2: these teams but then it was like you hit a

711
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 2: stretch where, it's like, all right he might be out

712
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 2: Of whatever i'm about sign play with like forty games

713
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 2: and then, bag men you Know what. I'm saying it

714
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 2: was like you got It to phoenix and you. Balled

715
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 2: out so then you come to All season dallas had

716
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 2: to hit you with. A bed you was probably the

717
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 2: most most well paid journeyman. I've seen you Know what, i'm,

718
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 2: saying like how was that?

719
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 1: For YOU like, i said it, was.

720
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 5: CRAZY man, i mean, you know Playing In, new york

721
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 5: starting the season off camp and all, of that and

722
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 5: then getting traded, you know mid way through Getting the

723
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 5: chicago and just basically shutting everything down its body and stuff,

724
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 5: like that and then it got to a point where it, was.

725
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:00,080
Speaker 3: Like we don't even want you around. THE team i,

726
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 3: was like, all.

727
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 5: Right perfect so at, that time the family was still

728
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:05,239
Speaker 5: Living In, new YORK so i went Back To. NEW

729
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 5: york i was Running through manhattan and Going To basketball

730
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 5: city all that. Crazy stuff Getting, the, PHOENIX man i was.

731
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 5: Just ready, you know, as players if you, get injured

732
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 5: you out. Two weeks when you, come back it's like.

733
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 2: It's, ON yeah, i remember because that was always a

734
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 2: theme in the games when you'll, be, playing well they

735
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 2: like he's been sitting now that he, hasn't like, so yeah.

736
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 5: You know and then at the, same time it was a,

737
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 5: free AGENT so I mean i wanted to put myself

738
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 5: in a good position to get, another bag.

739
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 3: You know and that was my, third CONTRACT and i

740
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 3: actually went To.

741
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 5: THE clippers i was really five minutes away from signing With.

742
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:40,720
Speaker 1: The, lakers wow.

743
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 5: Could You, And matt Me and lo on the same

744
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 5: team with code Crazy that that was the Same year

745
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 5: ramaidovich was a.

746
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 4: Free agent he was coming From, the clippers and we

747
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 4: had to Beat the lakers And the clippers in.

748
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 3: The playoffs both teams was looking for shooters at.

749
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 5: That Time the clippers offered four for, twenty Four the

750
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 5: lakers offer four for, twenty Four and phoenix was three.

751
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 5: For FIFTEEN before i can get back on the phone

752
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:12,719
Speaker 5: to Call the lakers, and, Like yeah i'm gonna take,

753
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 5: that Deal but mightily ch had already took. The deal

754
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:19,280
Speaker 5: so THAT'S how i ended up With. The clippers during

755
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:21,719
Speaker 5: that old four or five year THAT'S when i had

756
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 5: purchased my house out Here in LA so i wanted to,

757
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:26,359
Speaker 5: you know home and finish.

758
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:28,359
Speaker 3: IT off i want to.

759
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 4: Talk about like basketball politics because people, don't realize like IN,

760
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 4: the nba you can be on, a, team yeah, nothing

761
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 4: wrong and the upstairs will be like it's a younger

762
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,800
Speaker 4: team and you're a, little older so upstairs will, BE

763
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 4: like i don't want you to come in and work

764
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,360
Speaker 4: out and practice while the. Team practice then it go

765
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,319
Speaker 4: from you go on the trip with the team and

766
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:52,839
Speaker 4: just cause you don't have nothing to do because y'all

767
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 4: won't play me or even give me. A jersey oh you,

768
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 4: know what we don't even want you to travel no

769
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 4: more or be around. The team and some people know

770
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 4: the politics, of that and it ain't all about oh

771
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 4: he's a bad person or he did.

772
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 3: Something wrong. That's somebody it's just that you would go

773
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:08,879
Speaker 3: to the team and.

774
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 4: The politics of it and, be, LIKE yeah i ain't fucking, with,

775
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 4: you right and, people thinking, you know they so quick.

776
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:16,400
Speaker 4: With media the pointed that the players, be like oh

777
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 4: he did out and he just detrimental to. The team

778
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 4: and ain't always the case the person don't do, nothing

779
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:24,439
Speaker 4: wrong it's just, that shit we don't want.

780
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:28,400
Speaker 5: You around, WELL yeah, i mean it's always politics and

781
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:31,400
Speaker 5: everything across. The board but, FOR me i learned at

782
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:34,279
Speaker 5: the early age With, THE sixers i was told that

783
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 5: Me and allen was the only two. UNTRADABLE players i

784
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 5: had a meeting WITH, the gm the coach and the

785
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 5: owner and ten minutes LATER after i left, THE meeting

786
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 5: i was already Gone. TO milwaukee i learned that at an.

787
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,759
Speaker 5: Early age and then With the, chicago, thing man that

788
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:53,320
Speaker 5: really wasn't. MY fault i Mean bj armstrong was THE

789
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 5: assistant gm and he felt like because we had the

790
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 5: same agent that maybe he got some insight on talking

791
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 5: TO and i thought that that was gonna be. My decision, but,

792
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 5: yeah man a lot of times, AS players, i mean

793
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:07,880
Speaker 5: we go through that kind of stuff and you, guys,

794
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 5: know man like you might have been on the team

795
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 5: where you felt as though you was better than, you

796
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:14,239
Speaker 5: know the person ahead, of you but he had a

797
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 5: bigger check. Than you so it's like it want, you

798
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:19,320
Speaker 5: know it's like, the circus come see the clowns and.

799
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 4: The tigers that's what, it is. You know and money,

800
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 4: guy's gonna, you know play ahead. Of you so it's

801
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:25,920
Speaker 4: just politics.

802
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 3: And.

803
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:29,759
Speaker 5: EVERYTHING man i learned that, early on and then going

804
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:33,399
Speaker 5: through that Situation with chicago was. Was hell and EVEN

805
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 5: when I when i moved on, from that like they

806
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:36,839
Speaker 5: Was telling, phoenix that.

807
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 3: YOU know i was a, mad person and, YOU know

808
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:42,879
Speaker 3: i got to find twenty thirty times.

809
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:45,319
Speaker 5: Like what's, you know showing me, the things even all

810
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 5: the way Down to dallas my last two years, of

811
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:48,800
Speaker 5: Playing telling dallas.

812
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 4: Like he's a, bad person, he's this, he's that, You

813
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 4: KNOW and i never got Fined.

814
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 3: IN chicago i want from teammates talking about you a. Bad,

815
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 3: person yeah none of.

816
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 1: That everybody but they didn't want me.

817
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 4: To, FOLLOW well i didn't follow the rules that they

818
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 4: were setting at that particular TIME because i thought it.

819
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,919
Speaker 4: Was dumb they was doing psychological classes where they would

820
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:10,400
Speaker 4: put a tree in front, of, you actually what?

821
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 3: Is?

822
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 5: That right or put them hire in front of you

823
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 5: and say what? Is that, i'm like this has nothing

824
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:17,880
Speaker 5: to do. With basketball but, you know you had all

825
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 5: those young guys at, that time and the vets on

826
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 5: that team was Myself And. Lindsey, hunter yeah and You

827
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 5: know lindsey was on his way out and he was close,

828
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 5: to home, you know Being. IN chicago i think he

829
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:32,439
Speaker 5: was Living. In DETROIT but, i mean at, that, time

830
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 5: man it was just it. Was weird but business business

831
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:35,920
Speaker 5: and politics.

832
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:37,879
Speaker 1: Is, politics hey tell me how does?

833
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,360
Speaker 2: It FEEL because i see how much of an impact

834
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 2: you have Back In new jersey and WITH your, aau team,

835
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 2: the players and tell me how it is for you

836
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 2: to be able to give back and make such an

837
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 2: impact with that program and then to see a lot

838
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:52,240
Speaker 2: of kids going to college and stuff.

839
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 1: Like that talk about how that makes. You, feel, oh man.

840
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 3: It's great. It's. Everything man it's twenty twenty three.

841
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 5: YEARS players i started that my rookie year and it's.

842
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 3: Been.

843
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:07,800
Speaker 5: Great man we produced TWENTY four nba players, nineteen Dollars.

844
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 5: All americans thousands of kids went. To college and also

845
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:14,280
Speaker 5: on the, GIRLS side i have a girl's A Program

846
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 5: New jersey sparks and that's twenty two years and we

847
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:19,360
Speaker 5: have SIX w.

848
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 3: Nba players so. THAT'S hard, i mean that's that's what, it's.

849
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 5: ABOUT man, i mean get put in position where you're

850
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:26,799
Speaker 5: blessed and, you know you want to be able to.

851
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 3: Help others and, you know those programs definitely has done.

852
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:32,719
Speaker 4: Their part and now we have a. New program the

853
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 4: players is kind.

854
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:37,240
Speaker 5: Of done there's a new Program Called New jersey Scholars,

855
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 5: the league which is, you know basically the.

856
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:42,880
Speaker 4: Same THING another, ae PROGRAM nike e Y b. L program,

857
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 4: you know it's all about, giving, Back man it's all about.

858
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:48,240
Speaker 4: Giving back and Then now i'm on the school board

859
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 4: at the School Called pioneer Academy And Wayne new.

860
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:53,360
Speaker 3: Jersey also, you know Head Of.

861
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 5: Basketball operation so, you know we're going to turn that

862
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 5: thing Into An east coast Version Of mount VERDY or

863
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 5: img where we, you know give these kids what they've.

864
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:03,879
Speaker 5: Been missing you know a lot of times these kids

865
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:06,880
Speaker 5: THEY play, au ball they get their rank and recognition

866
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 5: and stuff, like that but they really don't have the

867
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 5: skill set.

868
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 3: To, survive yeah a lot of kids go.

869
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 5: Into it they really don't even hit the college, floor

870
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:16,239
Speaker 5: today sophomore end of.

871
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 1: The, sophomore year.

872
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 5: Junior year and these are the same kids talking about

873
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:22,799
Speaker 5: they want to, be pros, you know so they.

874
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 3: Have two years to try to get. It done it's kind.

875
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 3: Of difficult so, you know we just.

876
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 5: Want to prepare our kids for when they touch the

877
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 5: floor the freshman year or go. To campus they, freshman

878
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:32,839
Speaker 5: year they able to hit that floor a, little bit.

879
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 3: You, know YEAH when i was in, high school we

880
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:36,439
Speaker 3: played Against The tim.

881
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:41,360
Speaker 4: Thomas, PLAYERS yeah I Had tony Yale And.

882
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 3: Eddie griffin.

883
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 1: You switch plays for, y'all TOO. Right O J.

884
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 2: Yeah jr clark Played, for yeah that's my young.

885
00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 3: Boy, Easy, yeah yeah your game is.

886
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:04,240
Speaker 4: So dope you want my favorite people to, watch play

887
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 4: like who instilled the game? In you who you watch

888
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 4: coming up like it was them guys, LIKE man i

889
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 4: want to be like them or.

890
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 1: Growing.

891
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:15,319
Speaker 4: Up man, you know early ON on tv at that,

892
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 4: particular time it was local you Watched the knicks Or,

893
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 4: the nets, you know whenever.

894
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:21,320
Speaker 3: You could but for the, most part the national games

895
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 3: You watch Magic.

896
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:25,920
Speaker 5: And bird so, you know, being tall being, SIX' nine i,

897
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 5: always you know wanted to be able to do all things.

898
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:32,360
Speaker 5: On the court, SO you know i watched a little, bit, of, everybody,

899
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 5: man Honestly everybody but pick.

900
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:36,200
Speaker 3: Was, my guy yeah.

901
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 5: Was.

902
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:40,279
Speaker 3: My guy yeah you know in.

903
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 5: High School when the bulls Came To the east Coast Or,

904
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:45,840
Speaker 5: Or New, york new, JERSEY you know i was always

905
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 5: you know. At those Games so when pitt came about

906
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 5: and got on, That superstar status pitt was the.

907
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 3: Guy for me but you watching them, all, he did

908
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:56,359
Speaker 3: yeah because.

909
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:58,959
Speaker 5: He did everything, he did, Everything you Know, but before

910
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:00,799
Speaker 5: Pitt it was magic and then of COURSE.

911
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 3: Everybody watched mj but you just want to get that.

912
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 5: All around game and they're also playing against the older

913
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:09,360
Speaker 5: guys in my town and you know in the parks and.

914
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:11,360
Speaker 5: Stuff like that that kind of helped you, because you know, on,

915
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 5: the playgrounds man you you missed a shot or you

916
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 5: missed a layup or, they.

917
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:21,319
Speaker 3: From yeah exactly so you got to grow up real fast, in.

918
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 1: Those parks man so that's what these young kids don't really.

919
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 1: Get these days.

920
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:28,319
Speaker 3: They don't, have, a club man they don't.

921
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:29,319
Speaker 1: Have a club they.

922
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:31,839
Speaker 2: Tell, me, this so like you Done Made McDonald's, All

923
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 2: american games freshman, in the year top, ten draft pick

924
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 2: all type of. Deals and money but how did it

925
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 2: feel to have a street named after you and your

926
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 2: hometown and for? The whole city you, got a day

927
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 2: you got the key. To the city you got a

928
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:51,359
Speaker 2: street in Your Hometown? Named, tim thomas like how?

929
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 1: Do? That feel, bro, It's.

930
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 4: Great man it's it's. A great honor It's actually. ON

931
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 4: eleventh five i lived on eleventh fift. Twice, coming up

932
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 4: man it's right in front of my. Old high school,

933
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:04,839
Speaker 4: so you know it's just the history and the area.

934
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 3: Of that.

935
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 5: Building you know we Had Guys, Like Kyle, henderson daryl

936
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:11,319
Speaker 5: watkins He, played at syracuse PLAYED in the nba for.

937
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:15,320
Speaker 3: A Little bit victor cruz. Came Through, there stanley.

938
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:17,759
Speaker 5: Jackson He Played at ohio state and one of the

939
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 5: fastest Guys Ever, From New. JERSEY jason ferry i forget

940
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 5: what college, he went to but he Played with the

941
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:23,920
Speaker 5: chargers for.

942
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 3: A few YEARS.

943
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:28,279
Speaker 5: And, then tj cummins who's actually STILL. In the nba

944
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 5: and it's a couple other young fellas that played. Football

945
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 5: as well but it's just a. GREAT hond, man i mean,

946
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 5: from my city you Have Guys, Like, Ruben Hurricane, carter

947
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 5: abo costello, You Know. Myself larry dobie just to be a, part,

948
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:43,439
Speaker 5: of that man.

949
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:45,759
Speaker 3: It means everything out of.

950
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:47,839
Speaker 4: All the teams, you played for if you had to pick,

951
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 4: four other players like from, all the teams if you

952
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 4: have to pick four other, players to play all, four,

953
00:42:54,719 --> 00:43:00,400
Speaker 4: other players mm four other players all the seams, you

954
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 4: played with find them all who the four players out

955
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:03,399
Speaker 4: all of them?

956
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:03,719
Speaker 3: You would.

957
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 1: Pick mm, Hmm all right.

958
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 5: I'm gonna go I'm Gonna go allen allen, At the

959
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 5: two steve, AT the one i put myself.

960
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:23,399
Speaker 3: At The, THREE oh Man I put derrick coleman. At

961
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:30,280
Speaker 3: THE Four, d c yeah and at. The five man

962
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 3: i'll probably do my tumble.

963
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:36,879
Speaker 1: At, the, five, no, NO no love.

964
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:40,800
Speaker 3: I got another but this Is.

965
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:44,799
Speaker 4: Gonna Be electricy, start bank's cut but one more kick him.

966
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 3: Out the league so it's just four players start?

967
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:50,840
Speaker 1: Kick him out what you gotta kick him? Out the

968
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 1: league are your name?

969
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 3: Of the players are you?

970
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 1: Name the?

971
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 3: Players The, Players, Is durant Lebron.

972
00:43:58,200 --> 00:43:59,799
Speaker 1: Bird, AND pippen.

973
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 6: Oh i, gotta start one kick one out, of the,

974
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:13,239
Speaker 6: lead start one bench one cut one was.

975
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:15,440
Speaker 1: The, Curve, ball RIGHT yeah like.

976
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 3: I Have to kick bird. Out the League, Don't Make.

977
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:26,240
Speaker 2: Larry larry legend is getting listen to, THIS go, ahead

978
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:29,319
Speaker 2: i know but look. AT the list i KNOW that's.

979
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 2: What i said this is the predicament that he. Put,

980
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:33,240
Speaker 2: You in right i'm gonna Have to kick bird.

981
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 5: Out the league I'm, gonna Start lebron and i'm gonna

982
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:40,319
Speaker 5: have TO. Bench K d and you're gonna Have to

983
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:42,759
Speaker 5: Cut pip and i'm gonna Have. To cut pip.

984
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 3: You gotta make, Sure, you're saying bie.

985
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 4: That's, that's going off going off. For right, now BUT

986
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 4: no only i, Will, Flipping around yeah.

987
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 5: I'M flipping around kd would probably be, out the LEAGUE

988
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 5: and then i Will.

989
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:06,880
Speaker 4: Probably, start pitt Yeah. Probably, Bench, bird right yeah. You

990
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 4: coming up you've just seen a lot Of basketball and

991
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 4: you've seen a lot of guys along the Way From

992
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:14,760
Speaker 4: the twine Walkers to The kovid To, jermaine on hills

993
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 4: and you know when we go through this aau circling

994
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 4: and this whole, high school thing we see, so many

995
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:21,920
Speaker 4: guys and we see guys that we thought was, Gonna

996
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:25,280
Speaker 4: make it guys that did.

997
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:26,319
Speaker 3: Make or surprise us.

998
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 1: That, make it like who was that?

999
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:31,560
Speaker 4: Guy that was like when you've seen him coming up and,

1000
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 4: all that stuff he was just a walking bucket every

1001
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:36,840
Speaker 4: time you see it was just.

1002
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:39,920
Speaker 3: That walking bucket My, Guy From.

1003
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 5: Chicago Ronnie feels ronnie feels, was amazing man just the,

1004
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 5: way you know he played the game and it. Looked

1005
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:57,239
Speaker 5: so easy he had like that grown manstring, similar to,

1006
00:45:57,280 --> 00:46:00,400
Speaker 5: myself you know but all THE guys, that i class

1007
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:01,400
Speaker 5: but he was.

1008
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:03,879
Speaker 3: Just DIFFERENT man and i wish the accident would.

1009
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 5: HAVE never happened i wish he would have been able

1010
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 5: to showcase his talent in the Ninety Six From downsall

1011
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:10,319
Speaker 5: american Game And that.

1012
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:13,399
Speaker 3: Magic groundball game he's A guy that i know.

1013
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 5: For sure if he would have been able to lace

1014
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:18,320
Speaker 5: him up, in our league he would have really.

1015
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 3: Did some damage could you Imagine Him.

1016
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:24,800
Speaker 2: And, vince carter, Yeah and yo i'm telling you he

1017
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 2: WAS definitely going i feel like he was definitely. Going

1018
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:29,960
Speaker 2: STRAIGHT out and i feel like he definitely would have

1019
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 2: either won or competed or put on a crazy Show

1020
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 2: in the dunk Contact, BECAUSE he.

1021
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 5: Yeah i mean you know when we, was coming, up

1022
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 5: you know different high school showcases or, even YOU know.

1023
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:43,320
Speaker 5: Doing aau time if it was certain guys that, played

1024
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 5: before you you had to get to the gym and.

1025
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 5: Check THEM out and i think We was In cincinnati

1026
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:52,440
Speaker 5: and ronnie was, playing before us and, you don't, normally

1027
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 5: you know you don't like to you want when you walked,

1028
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:55,759
Speaker 5: in the gym you want to.

1029
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:58,440
Speaker 3: Control the. GYM you know i had just swag, and

1030
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:00,880
Speaker 3: ALL that and, i WAS like now i got To Go.

1031
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:04,240
Speaker 5: See ronnie man he put on the, show before US

1032
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 5: and then i. Capped it, Off but Yeah ronnie feels

1033
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:09,839
Speaker 5: man was definitely a guy that you had the opportunity.

1034
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 3: To go, see him play he would have. Definitely been

1035
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 3: impressed so.

1036
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 2: We were the same, conference AS him bro i was

1037
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:17,280
Speaker 2: in the same conferences and he was a year. Older,

1038
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:19,279
Speaker 2: than me yes he was, older THAN me but i

1039
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:22,280
Speaker 2: got this up. Close and personal the boy gonna walk

1040
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:26,359
Speaker 2: on air. Telling you levitate He Had the jordan jean

1041
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:29,799
Speaker 2: like he had the walk that man. The lay out he,

1042
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:32,440
Speaker 2: Wasn't six six that's what. Made it crazy he was

1043
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:36,600
Speaker 2: like six. Three Or something and i'm Talking about man

1044
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:40,319
Speaker 2: boy used to get up. In the air Boy him

1045
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:43,600
Speaker 2: and Paul, mcphierston in chicago they was The levitators them boy.

1046
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 1: Used, to fly yeah.

1047
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:46,799
Speaker 3: We was in a couple.

1048
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 4: Of circuits together we didn't play against each, other that

1049
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:51,239
Speaker 4: much but we was always in.

1050
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 3: The same area so you know guys like that.

1051
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:56,759
Speaker 4: When you know they on that list and, they're right there,

1052
00:47:57,239 --> 00:47:59,400
Speaker 4: let me go let me go shout over there and

1053
00:47:59,400 --> 00:47:59,799
Speaker 4: see what he.

1054
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:03,840
Speaker 3: Got going on but you. Working, With it yeah ronnie.

1055
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:06,400
Speaker 4: Was different man he could, score, the, ball inside outside.

1056
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 4: Jump over you all of that was strong enough to carry.

1057
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:13,840
Speaker 4: You AS well so i CAN, just imagine, q you

1058
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 4: know you having to go up against that. Man STRAIGHT

1059
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:20,719
Speaker 4: up when, i came out they was trying to give

1060
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 4: me the credit, of oh man you the first six.

1061
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 3: Nine guy.

1062
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:29,719
Speaker 4: To drive the, ball, but LIKE that truly like i tell,

1063
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:32,760
Speaker 4: everybody all, the time like man me seeing you play

1064
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:37,399
Speaker 4: or seeing lamar Old them like tron walker was a guy,

1065
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 4: who dribbled, the ball of course piped with the point forward.

1066
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:42,279
Speaker 3: And stuff like that was the guy who kind of.

1067
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 4: Paid away for ME you think that i can be six' nine,

1068
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 4: and dribble and be Fast and you know what i'm

1069
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:51,880
Speaker 4: saying that actually can play on, the wing because you,

1070
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:54,279
Speaker 4: know being a big guys the first thing, coming up

1071
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:55,360
Speaker 4: in high school you the.

1072
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:58,560
Speaker 3: Center of the power forward, Got somebody bigger than. You

1073
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:00,879
Speaker 3: you're gonna be powerful but, IF you're gonna play center

1074
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 3: i don't give, how. Much you can Drive right. You

1075
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:07,000
Speaker 3: know WHAT i'm saying it's like i. PLAYED center during

1076
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:09,360
Speaker 3: pro aram i played on. THE wing during.

1077
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:11,360
Speaker 4: High SCHOOL i played center when, I got to the

1078
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:12,480
Speaker 4: league i finally played.

1079
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 3: The three and A coach. You know what i'm saying

1080
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:17,360
Speaker 3: was that the same experience? Like, kind of for.

1081
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 5: You no not, FOR me in high school I pretty

1082
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:22,880
Speaker 5: much did what i wanted, to do, in high.

1083
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:25,960
Speaker 1: School everything everything and.

1084
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:28,879
Speaker 3: YOU guys Could Go on i. Am tim thomas the documentary.

1085
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 3: Check out some old clips. I'm putting the doc, together,

1086
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:32,520
Speaker 3: BUT in high school man i.

1087
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:34,799
Speaker 5: WAS all over the, place i played you know one

1088
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:36,760
Speaker 5: through five in high, school and then.

1089
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 3: You know my college decision basically came.

1090
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 5: Down to me being, able to play THE three and

1091
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 5: that's why i, went to nov you. Know, GOING into the, league,

1092
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 5: Man i was, like look i'm you.

1093
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 1: Know you know.

1094
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:48,879
Speaker 4: How you put it down either you go Power, forward

1095
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:52,719
Speaker 4: or small. Forard nope strictly, small forward but, no man

1096
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:55,439
Speaker 4: like you know playing in the, Greatest, era in those

1097
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:57,880
Speaker 4: nineties man you had a lot of guys. That can handle, the,

1098
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 4: ball it's not fifteen.

1099
00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:04,040
Speaker 5: Yeah you, know that strength you know guys like that

1100
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:07,839
Speaker 5: man that can shoot the ball and handle, the ball and.

1101
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:10,239
Speaker 3: You know get everybody involved so the game was.

1102
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 5: Changing at that particular time but we latched on at

1103
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:15,960
Speaker 5: the perfect time BECAUSE when, you watch the nba now

1104
00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:19,879
Speaker 5: you just see. Us, and all all up, yeah see

1105
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:22,280
Speaker 5: us six nine sixteen shooting.

1106
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:25,160
Speaker 4: Threes and stuff like that So When, you look at

1107
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:29,319
Speaker 4: kevin DURANT because that's basically some Dna For you, to

1108
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:33,560
Speaker 4: See kevin durant sixteen got gribbel, shooting.

1109
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:36,400
Speaker 1: It from range, long dunky he.

1110
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:39,560
Speaker 4: Doing, everything he posts up right you guy like that

1111
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:43,440
Speaker 4: play and knowing that's, from this THAT. Point FORWARD small

1112
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:48,319
Speaker 4: forward dna like i Remember his, rookie, year and i'm,

1113
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:50,799
Speaker 4: Like Well first of. All kevin durant is seven let's, stop,

1114
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 4: saying that.

1115
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:58,880
Speaker 3: He's. SEVEN right that's number one i remember his rookie,

1116
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:01,719
Speaker 3: year Man playing, against, someone, and, i'm, Like man.

1117
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:04,360
Speaker 5: Like okay yeah, i'm getting a little older but he

1118
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:07,400
Speaker 5: just reminded, me so, much of. MYSELF you know coming

1119
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:10,640
Speaker 5: in i mean he wasn't, as both and as, Strong but,

1120
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:13,759
Speaker 5: ill set, wise i'm like you know this guy is out,

1121
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:15,279
Speaker 5: on the three point line just.

1122
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:19,239
Speaker 3: Crossover, after crossover after crossover.

1123
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:22,800
Speaker 5: Yeah and still having, his balance and you know stuff

1124
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:24,799
Speaker 5: together to be able to. Get a good shot off

1125
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:27,200
Speaker 5: anytime you, get a good shot, off man, with that

1126
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 5: hype you know it's almost a ninety percent. Chance that it's, going,

1127
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 5: in but it's great man when you look at just the,

1128
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:35,520
Speaker 5: way the game, has changed and you know knowing that

1129
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:37,640
Speaker 5: he was a guy that was pretty much doing.

1130
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:40,880
Speaker 3: THAT at an Early age. I remember, my milwaukee, days, i,

1131
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 3: WAS you know six man. I was the first sub,

1132
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 3: it didn't.

1133
00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:47,960
Speaker 4: Matter for who matter who yeah you, got.

1134
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:52,360
Speaker 5: And like You, said you, know earlier dy you know,

1135
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:55,600
Speaker 5: playing against, you know shock you know having a guard

1136
00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:58,200
Speaker 5: shot on one, end and then you know having him guard,

1137
00:51:58,320 --> 00:51:59,839
Speaker 5: me on the, other end and you know being, able

1138
00:51:59,880 --> 00:52:02,840
Speaker 5: to stretch the floor shoot threes or go around them or.

1139
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 3: Whatever the case, may. BE it was everything man i.

1140
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:08,640
Speaker 5: REMEMBER playing in the Playoffs i believe it was old

1141
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:13,960
Speaker 5: one or Maybe, two thousand against the Pacers and they had,

1142
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:18,120
Speaker 5: the davis boys Out There Strong man big rick, RICK

1143
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 5: smith's and you know i was just using my skills

1144
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:22,480
Speaker 5: set and, stuff to, get around, them you know my

1145
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 5: quickness handler and the. Ball and stuff like that so when, you,

1146
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:27,680
Speaker 5: watch the game now man. You see, all of that,

1147
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:31,800
Speaker 5: you know just, six ten, six y nine you, know six, eleven,

1148
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:32,880
Speaker 5: seven forts you.

1149
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:35,719
Speaker 3: Know, Handling shooting the ball man it's.

1150
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:40,799
Speaker 2: Amazing watching the last dance and everything. That went on with, that,

1151
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:43,479
Speaker 2: what was your takeaways like how? DID you, feel about

1152
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:45,799
Speaker 2: document i mean obviously we all loved, it and it

1153
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:47,879
Speaker 2: was crazy but was it any like type of new

1154
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:50,800
Speaker 2: information that you really didn't know or that you kind of.

1155
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:51,719
Speaker 1: Knew or something like THAT.

1156
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:55,440
Speaker 5: TRUST the insight on mj i, love all of, the

1157
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:58,160
Speaker 5: stuff the pregame stuff how he was kind of separate

1158
00:52:58,640 --> 00:52:59,280
Speaker 5: away from.

1159
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:01,640
Speaker 3: Everybody else no. MATTER where he was at.

1160
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:04,320
Speaker 5: I think, that was amazing you know you get a

1161
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:06,680
Speaker 5: chance to really get some insight on just.

1162
00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:09,320
Speaker 3: The beginning of the game him wearing. New shoes almost

1163
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:10,120
Speaker 3: every game.

1164
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:13,360
Speaker 1: That's Unheard, of, back then especially.

1165
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:15,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, YEAH like but no man i mean, just, overall

1166
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:17,719
Speaker 5: it was great man just to get, some insight on

1167
00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:20,359
Speaker 5: you know how he pushed the new players that never

1168
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:20,880
Speaker 5: really won the.

1169
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:23,920
Speaker 3: Championship AND stuff like that so, i, Mean it was.

1170
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 3: Great man it was.

1171
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:27,919
Speaker 2: Great that was a little tripped out thing to see

1172
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:31,239
Speaker 2: how like he would be like a different locker room or,

1173
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 2: Something like what he had like what are you doing.

1174
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:37,920
Speaker 5: Right with the coffee and the security guys, And everybody

1175
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:38,840
Speaker 5: else somewhere else so.

1176
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:42,040
Speaker 3: It. Was a little different man, he had his own.

1177
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:44,719
Speaker 4: Office like, like, assistant coaches they.

1178
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 5: Say, yeah and then you know, me being a formal

1179
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:50,279
Speaker 5: ball just going back to, my mind a little bit

1180
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:51,719
Speaker 5: trying to, think, about, the locker.

1181
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:55,480
Speaker 3: Room like okay he that, was his room over here that's. What,

1182
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:56,920
Speaker 3: He WAS chilling at.

1183
00:53:56,840 --> 00:53:59,040
Speaker 2: Yeah and i seen some people make tweets to, play

1184
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:01,200
Speaker 2: with the like man he ain't never pulled all the

1185
00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:03,279
Speaker 2: way up. Into the arena, LIKE that then they said

1186
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 2: i had to look at the look at the red

1187
00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 2: range and remember, Who, That, WAS doing it like okay

1188
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 2: i forgot he probably got a special.

1189
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:10,760
Speaker 1: Little. Spot, in that somewhere.

1190
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:13,440
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah it was only a few people that was allowed.

1191
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:15,240
Speaker 3: To pull, UP in it you know i wasn't allowed

1192
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:23,440
Speaker 3: to put. Up pull up in there want rain and

1193
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:27,480
Speaker 3: they don't. Let you up in that jont. You got

1194
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:29,560
Speaker 3: to fark outside tell me.

1195
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:32,120
Speaker 2: ABOUT your, documentary YOU doing i mean obviously i know

1196
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:33,960
Speaker 2: about IT because we talk and i follow you on,

1197
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:36,520
Speaker 2: On social media and stuff but tell me about What

1198
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 2: You're doing. WITH your tim thomas documentary us.

1199
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:42,080
Speaker 5: As, former players, and retired players you know the young

1200
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:45,400
Speaker 5: younger generation don't really get a chance to really, grasp

1201
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:48,120
Speaker 5: what you know. What you was back then so it's

1202
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:50,279
Speaker 5: just basically just, trying to, show THE kids you know How,

1203
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:52,520
Speaker 5: i grew up in PATTERSON a small town That, i

1204
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 5: grew up IN patterson all the obstacles, i had.

1205
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:55,719
Speaker 3: To go through you.

1206
00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:58,360
Speaker 4: Know in, the early eighties Of course Everybody watched THAT

1207
00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:01,560
Speaker 4: lean on me and, i grew up right there like

1208
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:03,640
Speaker 4: literally in that same block, when the crack.

1209
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:06,359
Speaker 3: Era HIT you, know stuff.

1210
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:08,440
Speaker 5: So i, mean it's just you know my story and,

1211
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:11,800
Speaker 5: then also showing you know the basketball side of It

1212
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:14,800
Speaker 5: with being that passing catholic and just to growth throughout the,

1213
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:17,560
Speaker 5: years we're, going to COLLEGE, you know in, the nba

1214
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:19,000
Speaker 5: and you know it's just some of the, things that,

1215
00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:21,840
Speaker 5: happened to me, you know throughout my life in the

1216
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 5: middle of my life of. Playing and stuff like that,

1217
00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:26,680
Speaker 5: so it's a typical documentary. But it's just my life

1218
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:28,480
Speaker 5: is not anyone else's coming.

1219
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:30,359
Speaker 4: From where we, come from the, first, DAY we'd be

1220
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:32,400
Speaker 4: like nah i. TAKE this to the grave i don't got.

1221
00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:35,880
Speaker 4: TO say nothing about. Nothing i bring nothing up but

1222
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:40,120
Speaker 4: now we're, in The era that man AND i'm older now.

1223
00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:42,439
Speaker 4: And i, got, KIDS now it's like man i. WANT

1224
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:45,080
Speaker 4: to tell my Story i want. TO hear tim timmons

1225
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:48,600
Speaker 4: story i want, to hear this person's stories like with

1226
00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:51,000
Speaker 4: the DNA's now and it feel so good, to kind

1227
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:52,480
Speaker 4: of release that let.

1228
00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:54,279
Speaker 1: It get out your mind that was one.

1229
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:56,840
Speaker 4: OF, the things doing with, tvt doing with the. Article

1230
00:55:57,400 --> 00:56:00,000
Speaker 4: or EVEN doing this one thing i love about our. Podcast,

1231
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:02,320
Speaker 4: asking what we're doing man we get to be, fans

1232
00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:06,160
Speaker 4: of guys that man we, admired and we appreciate it

1233
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 4: and some guys don't even know that. We even, felt

1234
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:10,480
Speaker 4: this way You know when we played, I'M not gonna tell. You,

1235
00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:12,399
Speaker 4: i fuck you Yeah yeah.

1236
00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:17,080
Speaker 3: You know what i'm Saying i'm, not, saying the i'm like,

1237
00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:21,319
Speaker 3: man big, dog my, guy like like oh man. They.

1238
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:23,279
Speaker 4: Got mace over That man. You know what, i'm saying

1239
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:25,239
Speaker 4: you see them but it's like when, you get on

1240
00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:27,800
Speaker 4: that court you. Can't give them no. Love you gotta

1241
00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:30,040
Speaker 4: show that i'm just glad to even be on THE

1242
00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:32,359
Speaker 4: platform like this where i can give players like you

1243
00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:35,080
Speaker 4: AND all the players that. I grew UP in mind,

1244
00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:37,400
Speaker 4: EVEN when i was playing i was admiring for them, For,

1245
00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:40,319
Speaker 4: TO tell them like man i thought you was.

1246
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:43,520
Speaker 3: Just one of, the, Dopest we appreciate it.

1247
00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:45,879
Speaker 5: Man we all appreciate. It, MAN as former players man

1248
00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:48,160
Speaker 5: i definitely know. What, you guys Are doing man you

1249
00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:48,600
Speaker 5: know i've been.

1250
00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:48,920
Speaker 3: TUNED.

1251
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:52,120
Speaker 2: That the, money question Q oh. Yeah that's, what, i

1252
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:54,879
Speaker 2: got no big. Big, big pockets over here man when,

1253
00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:59,560
Speaker 2: you first got the? Bag what did you do you

1254
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:01,719
Speaker 2: know how y'all did SOMETHING where it was like i

1255
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:03,239
Speaker 2: don't know, if it was a whip if there was

1256
00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:03,920
Speaker 2: some joey or.

1257
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:05,719
Speaker 1: It could have been both what did you do?

1258
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:08,040
Speaker 2: When you got the bad and then, but Also with,

1259
00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:11,680
Speaker 2: that question if i'm correct you didn't have the rookie, scale,

1260
00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:13,560
Speaker 2: when you came IN right our.

1261
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:17,120
Speaker 3: Scale was i think. It, was a five year yeah it,

1262
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:19,960
Speaker 3: was like a five year but it was. DEFINITELY a limit.

1263
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:22,040
Speaker 2: On, It i don't know okay so you came in

1264
00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:24,280
Speaker 2: after they had, Put, the, lemony in there okay yeah,

1265
00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:28,040
Speaker 2: you missed about one year and you, missed About one

1266
00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:30,840
Speaker 2: year though. Because jao was in It jayo got the, whatever,

1267
00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:34,320
Speaker 2: jo went to Lead right so him. And, kobe you

1268
00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:37,680
Speaker 2: missed it oh. You Missed About, One, year, the Big

1269
00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:39,360
Speaker 2: dog yeah.

1270
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:42,520
Speaker 3: Okay big, dog killed it but.

1271
00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:44,919
Speaker 1: Yeah so so so what so what did you do When?

1272
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:48,000
Speaker 5: You, got THE bag man actually when i, first signed

1273
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:50,480
Speaker 5: with my AGENT the, very FIRST thing i got and i,

1274
00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:53,560
Speaker 5: STILL was in the Hood, i got the. BIG body

1275
00:57:53,600 --> 00:58:00,880
Speaker 5: the six hundred i had a, car sitting outside my house,

1276
00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:03,600
Speaker 5: our apartment at the time work more than.

1277
00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:04,920
Speaker 3: We had in the bank.

1278
00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:10,280
Speaker 5: So that was that WAS the first thing once i

1279
00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:12,880
Speaker 5: really got my. Hands on my actual money first thing

1280
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:14,600
Speaker 5: that they was. TAKING care of my, moms.

1281
00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:17,760
Speaker 3: I got her house. Got her situated and everything but that.

1282
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:18,959
Speaker 3: Was the first two.

1283
00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:23,080
Speaker 1: Things big that big body you have to pay.

1284
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:24,720
Speaker 3: My Agent, Back for THE big body and. Then i

1285
00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:25,400
Speaker 3: got my moms.

1286
00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:29,760
Speaker 5: You, know got her situated. Yeah black on black too

1287
00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:31,880
Speaker 5: that's how. WE like it right there.

1288
00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:37,640
Speaker 3: I don't know that was.

1289
00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:42,440
Speaker 1: Coming like.

1290
00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:43,320
Speaker 3: The bat mood.

1291
00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:50,240
Speaker 1: Everything back you just, Made, His millennium right now bro?

1292
00:58:55,000 --> 00:59:00,320
Speaker 3: Black you need anything anytime you getting on you doing

1293
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:03,880
Speaker 3: the rest. Of yall y'all podcast series just let THEM

1294
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:06,840
Speaker 3: KNOW you're GONNA call t t and i, Hold up.

1295
00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:09,560
Speaker 2: All.

1296
00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:10,880
Speaker 3: Black, everything all.

1297
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:14,480
Speaker 1: Black everything, boy it's hilarious hey. Man that's a.

1298
00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:17,160
Speaker 2: Rap man it's been real WE'VE been chilling with our,

1299
00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:22,480
Speaker 2: o G Our big. Homie the New Jersey legend we

1300
00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:23,680
Speaker 2: got tim thomas.

1301
00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:23,800
Speaker 3: In.

1302
00:59:23,840 --> 00:59:25,880
Speaker 1: The building with us man we appreciate. You.

1303
00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:30,960
Speaker 3: Bro all the, time man always. Loved fellas, my young, fellas.

1304
00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:34,520
Speaker 2: Yes sir yes sir thank you for, Not, acting ass.

1305
00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:36,600
Speaker 2: Right there darius that's, cool.

1306
00:59:37,640 --> 00:59:39,920
Speaker 3: You GOTTA beat yourself man because i always see you acting.

1307
00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:40,640
Speaker 1: Ass, man.

1308
00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:45,680
Speaker 3: When you, listen indeed when you act, the ass is.

1309
00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:50,560
Speaker 4: FOR us the skin brothers i have to check, these ice,

1310
00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:53,920
Speaker 4: CAN cast, Man you know i know.

1311
00:59:54,040 --> 00:59:56,680
Speaker 1: Man shaking my head because. I'm not like, light skinned

1312
00:59:56,680 --> 00:59:57,360
Speaker 1: but all right.

1313
00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:02,760
Speaker 3: You need another about, two, months in, the pool man get.

1314
01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:06,480
Speaker 4: Outside don't getting no tan how you getting out of

1315
01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:07,400
Speaker 4: because he GO.

1316
01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:11,520
Speaker 3: Outside of, Sixth p m like me i'm.

1317
01:00:11,560 --> 01:00:14,240
Speaker 2: Not going into the sun I'm gonna tell you to i'm.

1318
01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:15,439
Speaker 2: Not going into the sun.

1319
01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:16,640
Speaker 1: I'm. Telling you that now

1320
01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:34,560
Speaker 2: Yeah the players tribute dot com