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Speaker 2: Living the dream on this Conference Championships Sunday.

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Speaker 2: day the Conference championship games. I equate this to the

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Speaker 2: Elite eight A. Conference championship games to me are the

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Speaker 2: highest pressure games along the way because if you get

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Speaker 2: to the Super Bowl, you get to the super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: Of course you want to win the super Bowl, but

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Speaker 2: at least you're there, you get the hoopla. But these

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Speaker 2: conference championship games, you're already invested a lot into the season,

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Speaker 2: You've already won in the playoffs, and you get to

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Speaker 2: the conference championship game. I dare say the loser today

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Speaker 2: are going to go through the ultimate pain. Nothing more

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Speaker 2: painful in my opinion and talking to other players over

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Speaker 2: the years than getting this far and coming up one

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Speaker 2: game short of the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 4: Completely agree with you, and this is coming from somebody

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Speaker 4: who appeared in a Super Bowl during his playing career,

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Speaker 4: If we would have lost, if we would have lost

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Speaker 4: to the Ravens, as a matter of fact, because that's

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Speaker 4: who we played at Jollette Stadium when I was with

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Speaker 4: the Patriots the twenty eleven season, the twenty twelve postseason,

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Speaker 4: it would have been looked at as much more of

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Speaker 4: a failure than losing in one of the many Super

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Speaker 4: Bowl berths that the Patriots had had during that twenty

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Speaker 1: It's it's really.

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Speaker 4: It's a great comparison to consider it like the Elite

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Speaker 4: eight in college basketball, because even though you get to

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Speaker 4: hang an Elite eight banner in your gym, and many

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Speaker 4: teams do, there's something very different than having the Elite

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Speaker 4: eight banner and the Final four banner completely.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's something extremely different.

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Speaker 2: If college basketball, you dream of getting to the Final Four.

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Speaker 2: In the NFL, your dream is to play in a

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl. So four teams are on the ledger today.

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Speaker 2: First up will be the Chiefs and Ravens in the

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Speaker 2: AFC Championship game.

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Speaker 3: We got two hours until kick off of that game.

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Speaker 2: And then after that it'll be the Lions on the

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Speaker 2: forty nine ers for the NFC Championship.

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Speaker 3: So we're gonna break it all down for you.

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Speaker 2: Got a lot to talk about over the next couple

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Speaker 2: hours before we get to the Chiefs Ravens. Of course,

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Speaker 2: once that game starts, we'll give you everything you need

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Speaker 2: to know here on Fox Sports Red Zone Radio. But Rich,

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Speaker 2: it does give us time to talk about what was

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Speaker 2: a very busy week in the NFL. Six of the

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Speaker 2: eight coaching vacancies have been filled in the NFL. And okay,

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Speaker 2: before we get to that, Before we get to that,

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Speaker 2: understand this. So Nick Copson today for Monsei and obvious.

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Speaker 2: So we got Bo and he's he's he's excited about

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Speaker 2: Kellen Moore being his first new offensive coordinator.

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Speaker 3: Are you excited about that, higher, Bo, that.

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Speaker 2: The Eagles have stolen Kellen Moore away from the Chargers?

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Speaker 5: Sure?

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Speaker 3: Okay?

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Speaker 4: And then and then a little bit of muted enthusiasm

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Speaker 2: There should be all right, So now let's talk to

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Speaker 2: the man of the hour, and that's our our dear

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Speaker 2: friend Chris here. He's working the board today. Fortunately for us,

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Speaker 2: the Chiefs Ravens game will not be will be the

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Speaker 2: first game. I mean, if we had the Lions forty

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Speaker 2: know how Chris could operate. Be Chris, I want to

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Speaker 2: get through your day because, as people know, you're not

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Speaker 2: only a lifelong fan of the Lions, but you have broadcasts.

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Speaker 3: And have done this for years and years and years.

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Speaker 2: Lions fans have feasted off your negativity for the most

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Speaker 2: part until recent times. And now this is there is this,

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Speaker 2: I mean, in the biggest day of your life. I'm

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Speaker 2: trying to set some perspective so far, right, I mean

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Speaker 3: You weren't around for the nineteen ninety one season. No, no,

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Speaker 3: it's been five years old. Five years old, so you

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Speaker 2: Give us a little perspective on this biggest day of

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Speaker 2: your life so far, and how we progress to finally

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Speaker 3: You want to know how it's been going so far.

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Speaker 6: Is that last night there were chants of Jared Goff

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Speaker 6: at Detroit Red Wings game. At a Michigan ice hockey game,

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Speaker 6: someone said they were going to try the Jared golf

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Speaker 6: chant at their church service today in Detroit, Like this

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Speaker 6: is the energy that Detroit Lions fans are feeling, the

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Speaker 6: was just similar to the Jared Goff chant when they

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Speaker 6: made the trade to get him from the Rams. No,

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Speaker 6: it was so that it's been a complete reinvention of

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Speaker 6: is a new era of Lions football, because I think

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Speaker 6: longer anyone could say it's been thirty two years without

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Speaker 6: I start to notice everyone saying, Okay, this isn't a

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Speaker 6: Cinderella story. The Lions belong here. They have turned this

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Speaker 6: page and given themselves not just respect, but they've shown

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Speaker 6: the rest of the world and made the rest world

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Speaker 6: realize that what Dan Campbell and Brad Holmes the general manager,

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Speaker 6: have built in Detroit, they're trying to build something to last,

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Speaker 6: to contend every year. This has been a little bit

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Speaker 6: earlier than even I had anticipated, but it's definitely been.

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Speaker 6: It's been exciting for an organization that for so many

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Speaker 6: years has meant malfunction, dysfunction, misery and failure. To have

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Speaker 6: seems that it's like, yeah, we said it when we

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Speaker 6: started the year. When we started the year in Detroit,

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Speaker 6: who's in Santa Clara for the game here today. I

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Speaker 6: told Jeremy, We've never seen anything like this. There's been

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Speaker 6: playoff teams in Detroit in twenty eleven, twenty fourteen, twenty sixteen,

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Speaker 6: but there's never been this outpouring of support because people

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Speaker 6: that Dan Campbell had had given on something new, something different,

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Speaker 6: in year three to at least say we're going we're

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Speaker 6: playing for an NFC championship, We're playing for a chance

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Speaker 6: to go to the Super Bowl, and that means so much.

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Speaker 6: That means so much, so it's hard to put that

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Speaker 4: Well, that's that's perfectly stated, Chris, And I think that

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Speaker 4: as a player, I didn't get to experience that side

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Speaker 4: get to realize how important this game is to the

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Speaker 4: people who show up, who spend large portions of their

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Speaker 4: buy the jerseys for themselves, for their kids, for their grandkids,

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Speaker 4: to tailgate two, to live the experience of the fan.

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Speaker 4: Because becoming a broadcaster and connecting with people who care

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Speaker 4: so much about this game that that's what keeps the

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Speaker 4: lights on in these stadiums, that's what keeps you know,

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Speaker 4: you're fighting not only for your teammates and for yourself,

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Speaker 4: but you're also fighting for a community. It's incredible to

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Speaker 4: hear that, and it's also something that I think resonates

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Speaker 4: with certain players. And to spin it back to Jared

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Speaker 4: feel like, more so than any other player left in

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Speaker 4: this playoff field, Jared Goff is feeling the weight of

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Speaker 4: the community is feeling the acceptance of a community more

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Speaker 4: than anybody else. I know Lamar Jackson, Baltimore loves Lamar,

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Speaker 4: for Brock Purty. I mean the ardent defense of Brock

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Speaker 4: Purdy from forty nine Ers fans after that win. It

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Speaker 4: was a rough game for Brock, but a win over

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Speaker 1: But Jared Goff has embodied the.

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Speaker 4: that city like no other player in recent memory has

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Speaker 6: And it's funny you mentioned that too with the player,

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Speaker 6: because I've noticed so many former Detroit Lions. It used

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Speaker 6: to be I was always told once you were out

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Speaker 6: during this entire playoff run, it hasn't just been Barry

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Speaker 6: it feels like, you know, it used to be that

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Speaker 6: we would joke that culture just meant your team was winning.

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Speaker 6: But it does feel like for Detroit, this is your

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Speaker 6: It's just this remarkable energy. Dan Campbell has brought as

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Speaker 2: This has a direct effect on the Lions, because it

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Speaker 3: He's that hot coordinator right now.

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Speaker 2: But apparently it's not as done as some people think,

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Speaker 3: What do you make of this?

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Speaker 2: And obviously it's going to be a critical decision for

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Speaker 1: Well, here's the deal.

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Speaker 4: The evil you know sometimes is better than the evil

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Speaker 1: And they have a brand.

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Speaker 4: In fact, I'm a little surprised that there hasn't been

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Speaker 1: Also, by the way, he's safe.

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Speaker 4: Like one thing that I know is if Jerry Jones

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Speaker 4: So I imagine his agent, while Dan is on this

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Speaker 2: All right, I don't think there's any question. The biggest

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Speaker 3: What do you make of that?

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Speaker 4: Well, it's interesting because also this Rams defense that in

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Speaker 1: But we definitely he sent the letter to the season.

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Speaker 1: So it's an interesting hire.

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Speaker 2: Who whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. It's more than an interesting higher.

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Speaker 2: You had multiple interviews with Bill Belichick.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you want with Raheem Morris? Ye, Now, I mean.

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Speaker 2: Something something's amiss here, because it was obvious Belichick was

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Speaker 3: And you went with Raheem Morris.

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Speaker 2: I'm hoping Morris, will you know, suddenly become an elite

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Speaker 2: And Bill Belichick is not going to be the coach

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Speaker 2: How surprised are you that we are going to start

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Speaker 4: Very And I'll tell you why, because Bill Belichick has

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Speaker 4: He has the luxury of taking his time because he

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Speaker 4: This isn't unprecedented. This happened with Mike McCarthy when he

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Speaker 4: After that, This happened with Sean Payton when he retired

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Speaker 1: This was his first season with them.

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Speaker 4: So there is president here with what Bill Belichick is doing,

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Speaker 4: And if you believe the sourced reporting around this, he

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Speaker 4: I I think that's the reason why the Atlanta Falcons

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Speaker 4: and at the last second Bill said, yeah, now I'm

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Speaker 3: All right, so you say he has time? Does he?

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Speaker 3: He'll turn seventy two in April.

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Speaker 2: And the one thing I know about Bill Belichick, and

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Speaker 3: There were two takeaways.

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Speaker 2: One he was very entertaining yes, and two he's extremely

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Speaker 3: I mean, he would watch you know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's three years to get twenty six wins.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if you're on a great team, maybe two,

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Speaker 3: So you're looking at three more years.

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Speaker 2: Well, if he doesn't get a job in twenty twenty four,

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Speaker 3: Him to go another three years of all goes well

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Speaker 4: I get everything you're saying, but seventy eight what it

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Speaker 4: All right. When I hear your voice, how old are you, Steve,

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Speaker 1: When I hear your voice, I think you're a guy

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Speaker 4: But I don't hear an old man sixty which, by

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Speaker 1: I don't know if he's waffling on the decision to

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Speaker 4: You know, maybe there's a part of him that says,

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Speaker 4: England and whatever time it was with the Browns before

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Speaker 4: that as a head coach, and maybe he is starting

441
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Speaker 4: to think, Hey, you know what, I've devoted my life

442
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Speaker 4: to this game. I've given enough to this game. Maybe

443
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Speaker 4: it is time to walk away from this game. I

444
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Speaker 4: don't know if there's any of that. I haven't heard

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Speaker 4: word one from Bill Belichick, so I'm not gonna believe

446
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Speaker 4: any sourced reports about that until we hear from him ourselves.

447
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Speaker 4: But I don't think seventy is what it used to be.

448
00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:55,680
Speaker 4: I think there's a lot more people, a lot more

449
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Speaker 4: healthy these days, and so I don't look at that

450
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Speaker 4: number and automatically think that Bill, you can't coach for

451
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Speaker 4: another five or six years, because I could see that

452
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Speaker 4: as being a possibility. The other thing I wanted to

453
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Speaker 4: say is presenting the Atlanta Falcon side of this. We

454
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Speaker 4: know how big of a commitment it is when you

455
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Speaker 4: hire Bill Belichick. He doesn't just want to be your

456
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Speaker 4: head coach. He's going to want to be everything your

457
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Speaker 4: general manager, last say on personnel at the college, standpoint,

458
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Speaker 4: free agency, around the NFL. He's going to have his

459
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Speaker 4: hands in every single pot. And I imagine there were

460
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Speaker 4: a lot, and I mean a lot of scout and

461
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Speaker 4: trusted personnel directors and the general manager and a lot

462
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Speaker 4: of people around that building in Atlanta, in Arthur Blank,

463
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Speaker 4: the owner's ear saying, hey, we don't really need Bill Belichick.

464
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Speaker 4: I don't know if that's a great fit. And you

465
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Speaker 4: saw how it ended in New England, because guess what

466
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Speaker 4: that means for all those guys. Either they're all going

467
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Speaker 4: to get fired and he's going to bring in his

468
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Speaker 4: own staff, or they're gonna all work under his thumb.

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Speaker 1: And it's a tough place to be.

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Speaker 4: You walk on eggshells when you work with Bill Belichick.

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Speaker 4: So I think there were a lot of reasons, not

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Speaker 4: just on Bill's side, but potentially on the Atlanta Falcon

473
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Speaker 4: side that led to this not happening.

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Speaker 2: I have a gut feeling and that could be it

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Speaker 2: for him. I'm you know, I understand everything you're saying,

476
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Speaker 2: but you're also a man that insisted that Belichick would

477
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Speaker 2: stay on at New England when all signs were that

478
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Speaker 2: he was not. But my guess is, and by the way,

479
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Speaker 2: I think Belichick will thrive as an analyst. I think

480
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Speaker 2: people are going to be stunned again if you watch

481
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Speaker 2: that one hundred year anniversary show on the NFL network.

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Speaker 3: He was dynamite.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he was interesting, he was entertaining, he had

484
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Speaker 2: something to say, he was knowledgeable obviously. All right, so

485
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Speaker 2: we'll see how that all plays out. He got a

486
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Speaker 2: couple other coaches still looking for jobs I want to

487
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Speaker 2: get to. But first let's find out what is trending

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Speaker 2: right now.

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Speaker 3: Nick Cope.

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Speaker 2: Wow, he's in the house's been Nick, I am.

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Speaker 9: I'm honored to be able to fill in for Mansei

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Speaker 9: here on this Conference championship Sunday.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's gonna get busy once we get to noon.

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Speaker 2: I mean, once we get that game kicked off.

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Speaker 1: Goodness great?

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Speaker 3: Yes, anything else going on right now?

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Speaker 9: Well, I did want to say real quick on Belichick.

498
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Speaker 9: I know that head coaching record is out there for him,

499
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Speaker 9: but could you imagine Bill Belichick here in his later

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Speaker 9: years he becomes a media darling and totally flips kind

501
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Speaker 9: of the narrative about him, has this rap as a

502
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Speaker 9: grumpy guy. But as you alluded to, even the college

503
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Speaker 9: game day segment he did for Army Navy was outstanding.

504
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Speaker 9: He could totally change kind of the perception about him

505
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Speaker 9: and become this really likable media figure to go what

506
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Speaker 9: he's done.

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Speaker 3: Everyone thinks he's the goat already. He doesn't need that

508
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Speaker 3: head coaching record. I agree with you.

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Speaker 2: I mean Honestly, if I'm Bill Belichick, why am I

510
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Speaker 2: rolling the dice on another organization? Unless and let's let's

511
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Speaker 2: say Annie Reid unexpectedly would step aside and say, hey, Bill,

512
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Speaker 2: you want to be the head coach of the.

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Speaker 3: Chief Why, yeah, I'll take over that. But he doesn't

514
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Speaker 3: anything to prove.

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Speaker 2: The two most important stats are most Super Bowl appearances

516
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Speaker 2: and most Super Bowl wins.

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Speaker 3: I mean that trumps everything every of course.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so yeah, I would say for his sake, again,

519
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Speaker 2: if it goes as I believe, and I guess you're

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Speaker 2: saying the same thing, Nick, and I know Rid Hill believes,

521
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Speaker 2: is this guy's gonna be dynamite as an analyst if

522
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Speaker 2: he wants to go down that path.

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Speaker 5: Yes, I hope he does. I think we'd all benefit

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Speaker 5: from it.

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Speaker 9: All Right, guys, we got about an hour and a

526
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Speaker 9: half till the AFC Title Game kicks off, three Eastern

527
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Speaker 9: Ravens hosting the Chiefs. Line on this game, by the way,

528
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Speaker 9: is up to Ravens minus four and a half. Last time,

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Speaker 9: Patrick Mahomes was that big of an underdog Week three,

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Speaker 9: twenty eighteen at Pittsburgh. Mahomes that day twenty three of

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Speaker 9: twenty eight passing six touchdowns. NFL Meter reports that Ravens

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Speaker 9: All Pro corner Marlon Humphrey will play today. He had

533
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Speaker 9: been listed as questionable with the cavstrain. NFL media also

534
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Speaker 9: reporting Chief linebacker Willie Gay is trending toward not being

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Speaker 9: able to play due to next spasms. And by the way,

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Speaker 9: I don't know if you guys saw this pre show,

537
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Speaker 9: but about an hour ago, Chiefs receiver Kadarius Tony, who

538
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Speaker 9: won't play today because of a hip injury, he went

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Speaker 9: on Instagram live and in the midst of an expletive

540
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Speaker 9: filled rant, says he's not hurt and the Chiefs are

541
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Speaker 9: lying about his injury and we'll have to see how

542
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:29,960
Speaker 9: that one lies. Yes, he said cap, he said, he

543
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Speaker 9: kept saying cap, and he said, I'm not hurt.

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Speaker 2: Well, first of all, he's been a disaster, yes, I mean,

545
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Speaker 2: they were hoping that somehow they would transform him. He

546
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 2: can't catch the football and he doesn't know how to

547
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Speaker 2: line up on side.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so, oh.

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Speaker 1: My gosh, I missed this story. Nick, thank you for

550
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Speaker 1: bringing us up.

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Speaker 4: But what just I mean to use the word and

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Speaker 4: I think it's probably over you sometimes, but this couldn't

553
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Speaker 4: have gone any worse ton Kansas City.

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Speaker 3: Do they miss him? No? No, no, no.

555
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Speaker 4: By the way, really it costs him that he cost

556
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Speaker 4: them a game this season. I mean, think about their

557
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:15,960
Speaker 4: seeding opportunities. It's just I mean, it's it's beyond Yeah.

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Speaker 9: In honor of Monsie, I do feel compelled to share that.

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Speaker 9: Ian Rappaport on NFL Network this morning said that Taylor Swift,

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Speaker 9: according to sources, will attend the Super Bowl if the

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Speaker 9: Chiefs win. You know, there's a lot of talk because

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Speaker 9: she and Baltimore today. I don't know, we'll find out soon,

563
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Speaker 9: I'm sure. But she has that show in Tokyo scheduled

564
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Speaker 9: for that Sunday in Vegas. Yeah, it'll be nighttime in

565
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Speaker 9: Vegas when that show is going on. So rap sheet

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Speaker 9: says she'll be able to get back in time for

567
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Speaker 9: the Super Bowl, crossing the international dateline.

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Speaker 3: Well, I've talked to a number of Chiefs fans.

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Speaker 2: I don't know why it is that I have so

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Speaker 2: many friends that are diehard Chiefs fans. I mean, not

571
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 2: just Johnny Cumme lately's and their attitude about Taylor Swift

572
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Speaker 2: is they better.

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Speaker 3: Win, Yeah, they better win.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, not that anyone's gonna know SWIFTYE is gonna, you know,

576
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Speaker 2: put it against her if the Chiefs winner lose. But

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Speaker 2: there are Chiefs fans that feel a lot differently about it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, there's no question. Well, superstitions, I mean they

579
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Speaker 4: run deep when it comes to fandom.

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Speaker 1: I mean you know we uh we know.

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Speaker 3: By the way, Nick, thank you very much.

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Speaker 4: Thanks.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you got a guys, We'll check with you a

584
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Speaker 3: little bit later.

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Speaker 1: On the.

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Speaker 4: Resident Detroit Lions blogger broadcaster fan Chris Purfet, I mean,

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Speaker 4: I imagine he has a boatload of superstitions, a lot

588
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Speaker 4: of boxes that he needs to check leading up to

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Speaker 4: kick off.

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Speaker 6: Here, hold on, hold on, Chris is standing up right now? Really,

591
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Speaker 6: I actually don't have I got to ask it and

592
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 6: tell me about where are you watching this game?

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Speaker 3: Home alone? Home alone? It's a home alone. I have

594
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 3: to be in the zone.

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Speaker 2: Do you have a certain beverage, a certain food, maybe

596
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 2: a souvenir in your hands?

597
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Speaker 3: Anything?

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Speaker 6: Uh, reluctant, just the sweatshirt I have right now. I

599
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Speaker 6: I got asked. I had a former friend from usc

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Speaker 6: who is writing for m Live, which is a newspaper

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Speaker 6: in Michigan right now, and he was even asking me

602
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 6: that same thing.

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Speaker 3: You have any supersitions, No, not really.

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Speaker 6: I'll take off the sweatshirt if I start to feel

605
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 6: it's going bad, but otherwise, like the only thing I

606
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 6: really need to go do is go online a couple

607
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Speaker 6: times during the game and post golloins, WO spell, Lions

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Speaker 6: l O I NS And it's kind of become its

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Speaker 6: own thing so.

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Speaker 2: Many times, many times when I'm like like or UCLA right,

611
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Speaker 2: if it's not going well, I'll turn off the game

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Speaker 2: and then come back to it, you know, Like I'm like,

613
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Speaker 2: I'm feeling like I'm the Jinx by watching the game.

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Speaker 3: That was me in the twenty seventeen World Series.

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Speaker 9: You did that all Yeah, from about obviously the first

616
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Speaker 9: inning till about the seventh inning, I would turn it

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Speaker 9: off and turn it back on.

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Speaker 6: And I as a Tigers fan when we had the

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Speaker 6: World's Series in twenty twelve in the ALCS and twenty thirteen,

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Speaker 6: like I cannot.

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Speaker 1: I thought.

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Speaker 6: If you think NFL football in the playoffs is stressful

623
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Speaker 6: with your team in it, which is something I'm learning

624
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 6: very quickly, it's still not as bad as the Tigers

625
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 6: sweating it out against the Red Sox.

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Speaker 3: There were some games. I could just not watch.

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Speaker 2: It's hard to watch. You just you don't want to

628
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 2: watch it, but then you need to watch it, so

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Speaker 2: you turn back on Rich. I want to talk about

630
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 2: two other coaches looking for jobs. Let's start with let

631
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Speaker 2: mean you talk about age. Pete Carroll, Yeah, I mean

632
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 2: Pete Carroll did throw a feeler reportedly to the Chargers job.

633
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:40,959
Speaker 2: Obviously they went into a different direction where we got

634
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Speaker 2: plenty on that coming up. But you talk about youthful,

635
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Speaker 2: a guy that you know, you look at Belichick, you

636
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Speaker 2: look at Pete Carroll, who appears more youthful, who seems

637
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Speaker 2: to have more energy at relatively the same age Carol

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Speaker 2: actually slightly older than Belichick.

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Speaker 3: Why no interest in Pete Carroll?

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Speaker 4: Hmmm, well, listen, I do think that there are I'm

641
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Speaker 4: listen just because it's my opinion that Bill Belichick and

642
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 4: Pete Carroll both could coach for many more years, a

643
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 4: half decade maybe longer. Doesn't mean that everybody feels that way.

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00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 4: It also it doesn't mean that they feel that way.

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Speaker 4: You know, Pete Carroll, depending on who he interviewed with,

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Speaker 4: or Bill Balichick for that matter, with the Atlanta Falcons,

647
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Speaker 4: may have admitted yeah, I mean I only really see

648
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 4: two three years tops, Like maybe maybe that was.

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Speaker 3: Was gonna hire a coach if they say we're going

650
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Speaker 3: to be for the short term.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, and that's kind of my point. Well,

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Speaker 1: here's the deal.

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Speaker 4: There are certain players or coaches you would hire for

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Speaker 4: the short term. Look, at some point, Lebron James is

655
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 4: gonna retire, right, Lebron James is gonna retire? Is he?

656
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Speaker 3: Did you watch that game last night?

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Speaker 1: Dude?

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Speaker 2: At what a game last He is insatial, but at

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Speaker 2: some point he will be done. He said this about

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Speaker 2: Tom Brady for five years.

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Speaker 4: I know it.

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Speaker 3: Quickly. I want to get the name Mike Vrabel.

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Speaker 2: Out, okay, because a lot of people assume that he

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Speaker 2: left the Titans job almost on his own recourse to

665
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Speaker 2: get another opportunity.

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Speaker 3: I didn't see Rabel's name show.

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Speaker 4: Up anywhere, so so Vrabel may have overplayed his hand

668
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Speaker 4: in Tennessee. We should get into that a little bit

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Speaker 4: on the other side. But just to finish the thought,

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Speaker 4: I promise you there will be a day where Lebron

671
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 4: hangs it up the Jets. The Jets just did this

672
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Speaker 4: with with Aaron Rodgers. They signed him to a short

673
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 4: term deal because there's certain coaches or players like my

674
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Speaker 4: point and bring up Lebron is, maybe he doesn't retire

675
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 4: a Laker, Maybe he retires to the team who's gonna

676
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 4: draft Bronni his son. Maybe he wants to play with junior.

677
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Speaker 4: And so that's kind of my point is there may

678
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 4: be a worthwhile moment here for a team to hire

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Speaker 4: a short term coach. And maybe that's the perfect situation,

680
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 4: is what Belichick or Pete Carroll's waiting for.

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Speaker 3: We'll see.

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00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 2: I maybe it's just the league is saying we need

683
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 2: up going a whole different direction. Now we've seen this before,

684
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Speaker 2: and believe me, once we get we'll see how a

685
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 2: lot of these new guys do. Most of these organizations

686
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:19,319
Speaker 2: have a short fuse, very little patience and allowing young

687
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Speaker 2: coaches to develop if they don't show something immediately unless

688
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:25,240
Speaker 2: you're doing See the problem with like a Demico Ryans

689
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 2: is is that everyone expects you to be Demico Rights.

690
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Speaker 2: You come in, Yeah, the place is a complete mass

691
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Speaker 2: and boom, we're a playoff team. Or Sean McVay or

692
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Speaker 2: Sean McVay another public right guys that come in immediately

693
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Speaker 2: first year and completely flipped it and if your guy

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Speaker 2: doesn't do that, now what are you gonna do? All Right,

695
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 2: coming up on the other side, much more about these coaches,

696
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Speaker 2: and yes, we'll talk about the one big, big, big

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Speaker 2: hire in the NFL and how I nailed it. This

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Speaker 2: is Fox Sports Red Zone Radio. Steve Hartman, Rich Harberg. Yeah,

699
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Speaker 2: this is Fox Sports a red Zone radio.

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Speaker 3: A little over an hour away.

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Speaker 2: Kickoff AFC Championship game, Chiefs and the Ravens were live

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Speaker 2: from the ti iraq dot com studios. All Right, it

703
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 2: is rare for those that have listened to me over

704
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 2: the years that I'm right about anything, But every once

705
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:21,759
Speaker 2: in a while I hit on something. So I took

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Speaker 2: my sons to the Raiders Chargers game in Las Vegas.

707
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 2: My sons were all decked out in their Chargers gear

708
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Speaker 2: and we sat down to watch the most embarrassing performance

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Speaker 2: in Chargers history. They're down forty two to nothing at

710
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Speaker 2: halftime to a team that had not scored an offensive

711
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Speaker 2: touchdown in three weeks.

712
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Speaker 3: And then, of course, the.

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Speaker 2: Following morning, as we were driving back to Los Angeles,

714
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 2: the word comes down the Brandon Stay and Tom to

715
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Speaker 2: LESCo have both been fired by the Chargers. Right after

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00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:58,399
Speaker 2: that I get a text from Bernie Fratto here at

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Speaker 2: sports radio and Bernie's asking me, hey, would you I know,

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Speaker 2: you're the Charger guy.

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Speaker 3: Can he come on my show tonight?

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Speaker 4: So?

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Speaker 3: I said sure, Bernie.

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Speaker 2: So that night I go on and he's like, all right,

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Speaker 2: let's talk about coaches that could fill this vacancy. I said,

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00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 2: there is only one coach because the idea that Telesco

725
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:22,840
Speaker 2: got fired along with Staley tells me that this was

726
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 2: an intervention by the league saying enough's enough. And he says, okay,

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Speaker 2: who are they going to hire? I go, it's going

728
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Speaker 2: to be Jim Harbaugh. Well, what if he's not interested? Although,

729
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:34,880
Speaker 2: make sure the NFL will make sure that the Charger

730
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:36,880
Speaker 2: is going to make sure that Jim Harbaugh is going

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Speaker 2: to be the coach of the Chargers. So as this

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Speaker 2: process played out, and of course from we did you

733
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Speaker 2: know at that point, obviously Michigan was still in the season,

734
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Speaker 2: they had won a national championship. Yet they're going to

735
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Speaker 2: win the national championship. There were rumors back and forth

736
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 2: about Harbors stay at Michigan, is he going to take

737
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Speaker 2: the Charger job? But I kept thinking in my head,

738
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna stick with what I said. The NFL will

739
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Speaker 2: make sure that the Charger organization that didn't pay a

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Speaker 2: penny yet in their relocation money, not a penny toward

741
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Speaker 2: the new stadium, not a penny in PSLs. They haven't

742
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Speaker 2: done anything financially to secure any kind of following in

743
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Speaker 2: the city of Los Angeles, which is critical, by the way,

744
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,799
Speaker 2: to the National Football League. The free ride is over.

745
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 2: Dean Spano's digging in your pocket. I don't care how

746
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 2: deep you have to dig. You are going to hire

747
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Speaker 2: Jim Harbor because rich we talked about it, there was

748
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Speaker 2: only one coaching higher possible for the Chargers that would

749
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Speaker 2: move the needle in a city like Los Angeles where

750
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 2: the Dodgers and Lakers ruled the world.

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Speaker 3: And that's exactly what happened.

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Speaker 2: We'll get into what Jim Harbor is facing becoming the

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Speaker 2: coach of the Chargers, but in this instance, I said

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Speaker 2: it was had to happen, and it did happen.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, no, And okay, so two things you said

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00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 4: that were absolutely right, and I'll start with the preme

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Speaker 4: and issue in about the Chargers hiring Jim Harbaugh one

758
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 4: hundred percent accurate. And secondarily, you are often wrong, Like

759
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 4: there is actually websites now dedicated to fading all of

760
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Speaker 4: Steve Hartman's picks. You would be a millionaire if you

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Speaker 4: just win against everything he's said all season long.

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Speaker 2: Let me tell you something, if you had doubled down,

763
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Speaker 2: you'd have more money than Elon Musk.

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Speaker 3: If you just doubled down on every.

765
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Speaker 2: One why he picks the opposite way, you could be

766
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Speaker 2: richer than Elon Musk.

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Speaker 4: So so, but getting back to the point, yeah, you did,

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Speaker 4: you nailed it, you called it now. Obviously it's just

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Speaker 4: speculation to imagine that the league had anything to do

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Speaker 4: with it. But I will say this, we know that

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Speaker 4: there are certain markets that are more important to the NFL,

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Speaker 4: not just the NFL, but all sports league than other markets.

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Speaker 4: Like it's more important that Boston and New York have

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Speaker 4: better teams than Milwaukee in the NBA. It's obvious that

775
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 4: you want LA and New York to have more important

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Speaker 4: baseball teams then for example, oh, I don't know, say

777
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Speaker 4: the Seattle Mariners. Even you know, it's like there are

778
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Speaker 4: certain markets. Now doesn't mean that the other twenty nine

779
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 4: markets aren't important in NBA or Major League baseball, but

780
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 4: there are certain markets that are more important, and in

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Speaker 4: the NFL New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, Green Bay even

782
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 4: has somehow vaulted itself Kansas City recently. There are certain

783
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Speaker 4: markets that you have to keep healthy, and LA is

784
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 4: a market you have to keep healthy. And so there

785
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Speaker 4: could have been conversations that went on between Roger Goodell

786
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Speaker 4: and the Spanos family like, hey, guys, just letting you

787
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 4: know what the other owners are saying about you. And yeah,

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Speaker 4: I'm not saying that anybody's talking about pushing out the

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Speaker 4: Spanos family, Like, obviously we love working with you guys,

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Speaker 4: but it's just a little bit of that, Hey, did

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Speaker 4: they hire anybody good over the last two decades?

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Speaker 1: And the answers kind of no.

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Speaker 4: So maybe you guys just think really hard about Jim Harbaugh. Okay,

794
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Speaker 4: catchu later, Dino, catch later, bye bye, And so you

795
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:10,279
Speaker 4: might be right, I could see it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Well, Also keep in mind they hired him before they

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Speaker 3: hired a general manager. Yeah, just remember that, right.

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Speaker 2: Normally you bring a general manager in and he has

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Speaker 2: some kind of say in terms of who the new

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Speaker 2: coach is. They hired the coach first. The NFL made

802
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Speaker 2: sure of that all right. On the other side, more

803
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Speaker 2: on the Harbaugh situation with the Chargers, and yes we're

804
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Speaker 2: counting down to the AFC Championship game between the Ravens

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Speaker 2: and that team named the Chiefs.

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Speaker 5: One hour away.

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Speaker 3: One hour away.

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Speaker 2: Kickoff of the AFC Championship game between the Ravens and

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Speaker 2: break down that AFC Championship game coming up in this hour, Rich,

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Speaker 2: I do want to finish off on the Harbass situation

817
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Speaker 2: now that he is the new head coach of Los

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Speaker 2: Angeles Chargers, and it's obviously a very important hiring for

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Speaker 2: the Charger organization, but even more so for the National

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Speaker 2: Football League. They need their LA teams to gain more

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Speaker 2: traction in the very important LA market that the NFL

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00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:37,840
Speaker 2: shoved their way into. I mean Stan Kronke shoved his

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00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 2: way into the LA market. There was no call for

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Speaker 2: the NFL to return to the LA market, at least

825
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Speaker 2: from the sports fans in LA. I know because I

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Speaker 2: was on the air that entire twenty one year absence

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Speaker 2: of the NFL in the city of Los Angeles. But

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Speaker 2: Harbaugh I put it out on Twitter slash x that

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Speaker 2: overcoming the span curse will be the greatest challenge of

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00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:07,799
Speaker 2: Jim Harbaugh's career. I actually remember when Jim Harbaugh was

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Speaker 2: a Charger. It was the year after Ryan Leaf's disastrous

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Speaker 2: rookie season. Leaf was hurt. They needed sort of a

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Speaker 2: stopgap quarterback. Harbor had been in the league for years.

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Speaker 2: He had had a nice run with the Colts after

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Speaker 2: an up and down run with the Bears.

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Speaker 3: He actually played pretty well that first year, which.

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Speaker 2: Was in let's see nineteen ninety nine, he was like

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Speaker 2: five hundred as a starting quarterback. And then the next year,

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Speaker 2: which was his last year in the NFL, he was

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Speaker 2: part of that one in fifteen debacle posted by the Chargers.

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Speaker 2: A couple of years later, became a quarterback coach with

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Speaker 2: the Raiders and the rest is history as far as.

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Speaker 3: Coaching his career.

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Speaker 2: But when you look at this Charger organization, beyond the

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Speaker 2: Spanos curse, and by the way, I bring the Spanos

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00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 2: curse up because of this, I think we can all

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Speaker 2: acknowledge that Daniel Snyder was one of the worst owners

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Speaker 2: in the history of the National Football League. He took

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00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 2: a proud Washing franchise and ran them right into the

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Speaker 2: ground both on and off the field. But also he hired,

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Speaker 2: among other coaches, Marty Schottenheimer, Steve Spurrier, Joe Gibbs, and

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Speaker 2: Mike Shanahan among all legendary coaches, all guys that had

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Speaker 2: huge success everywhere they had been, and all of a

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00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 2: sudden they became losers under the ownership of Daniel Snyder.

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Speaker 2: And I throw that out as a warning because by

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Speaker 2: and large, it doesn't matter what sport we're talking about.

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00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:42,919
Speaker 2: The ultimate success of any team that has any sustained

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Speaker 2: success over in a period of time, it starts at

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Speaker 2: the top, yep. And if you don't have there's a

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Speaker 2: reason why the Jets are where they are, and I

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Speaker 2: mean the Lions seem to have overcome it in the moment,

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00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 2: so it is possible and if any coach can turn

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Speaker 2: it around, Jim Harbuck could be that guy. But they

864
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:05,879
Speaker 2: have salary cap woes. They're a mess right now, there's

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Speaker 2: a lot that has to be done to get the

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Speaker 2: right players on the field to you know, support Justin

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Speaker 2: Herbert and get a winner for the Chargers.

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Speaker 4: Well, okay, he said a lot there. Yes, I'll start

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Speaker 4: with do I believe in curses?

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Speaker 9: No?

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Speaker 1: But do I believe in ineptitude of management?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: And I think when we think about.

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Speaker 4: What an owner is, an owner is in charge of

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Speaker 4: some of the most important decisions that a company will make,

876
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 4: like who is going to lead the franchise to any success?

877
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 4: You know, how much money are they going to devote

878
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 4: to facilities and to signing bonuses? Also how much can

879
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:48,400
Speaker 4: they afford to to do in terms of those things, Like,

880
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 4: it's not just this predisposed circumstance where all these owners

881
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 4: are created equal.

882
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:54,920
Speaker 1: They're not.

883
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:59,799
Speaker 4: You know, the Walmart family owns one of these football teams.

884
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:01,719
Speaker 4: They have a lot more money than some of the

885
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 4: other owners. So when you think of it in terms of, Okay,

886
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:07,919
Speaker 4: how much wealth do you actually have and how much

887
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 4: money can you commit to escro to sign future free

888
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:14,359
Speaker 4: agents and compete for signing bonuses because some.

889
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:15,280
Speaker 1: Of these free agents.

890
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:18,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a great idea to in theory to move

891
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:21,760
Speaker 4: your team to Los Angeles, which is a huge media market,

892
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 4: and maybe some of your players who sign as free

893
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:26,440
Speaker 4: agents will have more exposure to the media as a

894
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:30,840
Speaker 4: result and have more opportunities potentially post career. But also

895
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 4: these players are chasing paychecks and guaranteed moneies, and that

896
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:38,399
Speaker 4: money needs to be guaranteed in terms of we have

897
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:40,799
Speaker 4: the money, We're liquid enough to pay you. We're gonna

898
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 4: put that money into escrow before you sign your contract,

899
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 4: and we can compete with the other big dogs around

900
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 4: the league like Denver, like the Rams, right, like the

901
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 4: Dallas Cowboys, like the New York Jets, or the New

902
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 4: York Giants, like we have deep pockets here too, And

903
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:58,719
Speaker 4: that is a question mark with the Spanos family as well.

904
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 4: So it's not a curse that necessarily is because they

905
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:07,239
Speaker 4: accidentally came across a talisman that has been following them

906
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 4: around from a thrift store since the seventies.

907
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 1: No no, no, no. This is the curse of being

908
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:16,919
Speaker 1: the closer to the lower.

909
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:20,280
Speaker 4: Rungs on the ladder in terms of your financial standing

910
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:23,880
Speaker 4: amongst your peers. The rest of the league, there's a

911
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:26,719
Speaker 4: lot of owners that have deeper pockets, and that has

912
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:29,760
Speaker 4: an impact too, which is why this hiring of Jim Harbaugh,

913
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:32,840
Speaker 4: by the way, is so unique by the Chargers, because

914
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:38,360
Speaker 4: the financial commitment is insane compared to their last many

915
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:39,920
Speaker 4: hirings at the same position.

916
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:42,359
Speaker 3: They are going to have to they are so far

917
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:45,399
Speaker 3: over the cap. I mean, let's put it this way.

918
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 3: There are only two Pro Bowlers this year.

919
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 2: Were Keenan Allen and Khalil Mack gone. They can't they

920
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:55,239
Speaker 2: can't keep them on. I mean they're due tens of

921
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 2: millions of dollars over the next season. Joey Bosa gone.

922
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 2: You have no running back. Austin Eckler's finished. Mike Williams

923
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 2: can't stay healthy.

924
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:05,239
Speaker 3: You know.

925
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:08,360
Speaker 2: Quentin Johnston, your first round pick, can't catch the football.

926
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 2: Derwin James can't stay healthy. He's been a come down

927
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:14,640
Speaker 2: player since his rookie year. Even with Shawn Slater, who

928
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 2: showed such great promise is rookie year, he got hurt.

929
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 2: He's not been at that same level since. There are

930
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:23,760
Speaker 2: holes everywhere. And by the way, when people talk about

931
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 2: Jim Harbaugh's incredible record of these quick turnarounds, did they

932
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:30,200
Speaker 2: miss his first six years at Michigan when they are

933
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 2: zero and six against Ohio State and only finished in

934
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 2: the top two in their own division once in those

935
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:37,280
Speaker 2: six years.

936
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 3: They seem to have forgotten those six years.

937
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 2: The last three years obviously they got into the playoff

938
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:45,399
Speaker 2: capped with the national championship. But you and I were

939
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 2: talking about that first six year run where they were

940
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 2: getting hammered by an average of twenty points by Ohio State,

941
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:52,759
Speaker 2: getting beaten down the year after year.

942
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 3: How much long are they going to put up with

943
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:55,200
Speaker 3: Jim Harbaugh?

944
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, they stayed with it and eventually it paid

945
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:03,759
Speaker 2: off with a national championship. But I'm telling you you

946
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:04,279
Speaker 2: got to.

947
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 3: Take a step back.

948
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:08,240
Speaker 2: Everyone's caught up obviously in the moment with Jim Harbaugh.

949
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:11,319
Speaker 2: Jim Harbai he did it with you know USD. Does

950
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:14,240
Speaker 2: that count the two the count Stanford and the forty

951
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 2: nine ers, those were two situations where the turnaround was immediate. Well,

952
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:22,919
Speaker 2: but it took seven years at Michigan just to beat

953
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 2: Ohio State. Seven years, No, I get it to get

954
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:32,239
Speaker 2: a win against Ohio State, So it wasn't some immediate turnaround.

955
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 4: I'm got in close. I get where you're coming from.

956
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 4: I and I completely agree with you that Michigan took

957
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:43,800
Speaker 4: a while to get over certain humps, but they weren't

958
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:47,600
Speaker 4: the dregs of the Big Ten. They just struggled with

959
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:50,880
Speaker 4: some of the most important boxes that need to be

960
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 4: checked for a Michigan for a Michigan head coach to

961
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:55,399
Speaker 4: be considered successful, they.

962
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 2: Were three and three against Michigan State, owen six against

963
00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 2: Ohio State in those first six years exactly.

964
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 4: And I'm not saying that that's a record that Jim

965
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:07,520
Speaker 4: Harbaugh would be proud of as a Michigan man.

966
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:11,319
Speaker 2: Well, his predecessors, Rich Rodriguez and Brady Hoague would have

967
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:14,080
Speaker 2: been fired long before they would have gotten to a

968
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:15,880
Speaker 2: sixth year with that kind of record.

969
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:18,840
Speaker 4: And I also believe that when you look at the

970
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 4: NFL these days, it comes down to two things. And

971
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:25,520
Speaker 4: the reason why people are so excited is because of

972
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:29,319
Speaker 4: these two things that have occurred in Los Angeles in

973
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:33,600
Speaker 4: very short order. You need a great quarterback. And I'm

974
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 4: not talking about necessarily a winning quarterback. I think that

975
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:41,879
Speaker 4: that is a stat that is tied to too many

976
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:46,880
Speaker 4: quarterbacks and it's not appropriate because it's a team sport.

977
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:49,360
Speaker 4: But you need a great quarterback, and I'm talking about

978
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 4: having the intangibles to win big arm, good decision maker athleticism.

979
00:49:56,239 --> 00:50:00,920
Speaker 4: Nowadays it's important you know the ability to improvise and

980
00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:04,719
Speaker 4: improve a play, as opposed to you know, improvise and

981
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:07,799
Speaker 4: screw things up and take too many gambles, like Justin

982
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 4: Herbert is that guy.

983
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 1: Then you need a.

984
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:13,440
Speaker 4: Culture builder and a head coach who knows how to

985
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:17,800
Speaker 4: delegate responsibility, build a staff, create a culture of winning,

986
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 4: and an environment whether players love playing for him or not,

987
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:26,919
Speaker 4: that knows what it takes to win.

988
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:29,239
Speaker 1: And he did that in San Francisco.

989
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 4: Now, I will say this because I've heard first person

990
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:36,320
Speaker 4: accounts from players who were in that San Francisco locker room.

991
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:39,400
Speaker 4: It did not end well between many of the players

992
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:42,840
Speaker 4: in Jim Harbaugh. He lost that locker room. That's essentially

993
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:46,640
Speaker 4: the reason why he lost that job. So he is

994
00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:50,080
Speaker 4: a culture builder and he has won everywhere he's been

995
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:50,760
Speaker 4: a head coach.

996
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:53,400
Speaker 1: It took a little bit longer at Michigan. I agree

997
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:53,680
Speaker 1: with that.

998
00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:57,840
Speaker 4: However, his last stop in the NFL started with a bang.

999
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:00,160
Speaker 4: He got a lot out of those football teams and

1000
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:02,960
Speaker 4: he burned out that locker room. So that's the one

1001
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:05,759
Speaker 4: part of this conversation that I will say I'm a

1002
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:09,200
Speaker 4: little reticent to jump on the bandwagon and say everything's

1003
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:11,880
Speaker 4: gonna be peaches and cream from now until forever. They

1004
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:15,160
Speaker 4: got their coach, they got their Belichick, because I don't

1005
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 4: know if they got their Belichick. I know they got

1006
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:19,640
Speaker 4: a guy who has proven that he can win quickly

1007
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:23,000
Speaker 4: in many different situations, and he's got a great quarterback.

1008
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:26,239
Speaker 4: So he's off to a great start. But he's got

1009
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:28,200
Speaker 4: to win that locker room and he's got to keep

1010
00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:29,200
Speaker 4: those guys invested.

1011
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:32,319
Speaker 2: All right, let's get focused on this AFC Championship game

1012
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:37,120
Speaker 2: coming up. On the other side, there's one player in

1013
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:40,560
Speaker 2: this matchup between the Ravens and Chiefs where this game

1014
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:44,359
Speaker 2: matters most. Tell you who that is. This is Fox

1015
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:48,560
Speaker 2: Sports Red Zone Radio Steve Harman and Rich Armberger. This

1016
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:51,319
Speaker 2: is Fox Sports Red Zone Radio. We are live from

1017
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:55,719
Speaker 2: the tai iraq dot Com studios. We like you, are

1018
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:58,920
Speaker 2: getting revved up for this AFC Championship game between the

1019
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:01,200
Speaker 2: Chiefs and the Ravens. By the way, weather is not

1020
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:03,279
Speaker 2: going to have an impact on this game. We've had

1021
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:07,239
Speaker 2: a lot of really really bad weather over the last

1022
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:10,840
Speaker 2: couple of weeks. It is not that in Baltimore today

1023
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:13,120
Speaker 2: so weather it will not be a factor.

1024
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:15,480
Speaker 3: But I tell you what will be a factor.

1025
00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 2: And that is the performance of Lamar Jackson today. So

1026
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:27,200
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson is going into the biggest game of his

1027
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:31,279
Speaker 2: football career. Yesterday I was working with Kerrie Rose, who,

1028
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:33,879
Speaker 2: along with Lamar Jackson, of course, played their college ball

1029
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:37,520
Speaker 2: at Louisville. He spoke to Lamar this week rich and

1030
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:40,440
Speaker 2: said that he's one hundred percent ready to go. But

1031
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:44,680
Speaker 2: here's the problem for Lamar Jackson potentially, and that is

1032
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:46,399
Speaker 2: on the other side of the field, there's a guy

1033
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 2: named Patrick Mahomes who is thirteen and three in his

1034
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:56,040
Speaker 2: postseason career with thirty eight touchdowns and seven interceptions. He

1035
00:52:56,080 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 2: has not thrown an interception in his last five playoff games.

1036
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:06,440
Speaker 2: His playoff passer rating is actually higher than his regular

1037
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:10,960
Speaker 2: season passer rating. In terms of postseason we're talking about,

1038
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:14,680
Speaker 2: in my opinion, one of the three greatest quarterbacks already

1039
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 2: in the history.

1040
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:16,440
Speaker 3: Of the NFL.

1041
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:18,880
Speaker 2: The only other guys in the conversation are Tom Brady

1042
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:23,480
Speaker 2: and Joe Montana. And if you're Lamar Jackson, what you

1043
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:27,400
Speaker 2: have to get away from is the idea that I

1044
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:29,000
Speaker 2: need to play better.

1045
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 3: Than Patrick Mahomes.

1046
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:33,799
Speaker 2: In other words, he needs to ignore whatever Mahomes is doing,

1047
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:36,320
Speaker 2: and we got to believe based on its track record,

1048
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:38,680
Speaker 2: Mahomes is always going to bring his A game to

1049
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:42,439
Speaker 2: a game like this, and it can't be a shootout game.

1050
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:46,239
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson can't say, all right, he did this, I

1051
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 2: got to do this. It's not going to work that way.

1052
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:54,920
Speaker 2: He's not going to outplay Patrick Mahomes. But that doesn't

1053
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:57,160
Speaker 2: mean the Ravens can't win this game. They have the

1054
00:53:57,200 --> 00:54:00,600
Speaker 2: better defense, they have the better team. The money is

1055
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:04,200
Speaker 2: pouring in on the Ravens in the gambling circles. So

1056
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:07,920
Speaker 2: the only thing that, in my opinion, prevents the Ravens

1057
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:11,799
Speaker 2: from winning this game is Lamar Jackson trying to do

1058
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:17,239
Speaker 2: too much to try to outperform Patrick Mahomes.

1059
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:21,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I agree with everything you just said.

1060
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:24,520
Speaker 1: Look, there's a part.

1061
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:29,840
Speaker 4: Of there's a part of Lamar Jackson's postseason.

1062
00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:35,440
Speaker 1: I guess you would call it report card.

1063
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:38,759
Speaker 4: I hate using that term because, like you know this,

1064
00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:43,120
Speaker 4: it's not like all things are equal every postseason, and

1065
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:49,080
Speaker 4: the quarterback again, isn't the only reason why a team

1066
00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 4: wins or loses. But if we're evaluating his performances independently

1067
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:59,160
Speaker 4: of everyone else. Lamar Jackson, in the most recent postseason

1068
00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:04,400
Speaker 4: runs by the race, has been either a reason or

1069
00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:09,560
Speaker 4: the biggest reason his team has lost the games they've lost. Now,

1070
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:13,520
Speaker 4: I'll also argue the other side, he's also the reason

1071
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:16,560
Speaker 4: why these teams are in the postseason, or a very

1072
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:18,719
Speaker 4: large reason why these teams are in the postseason, and

1073
00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 4: also the biggest or one of the biggest contributing factors

1074
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:25,359
Speaker 4: when they win in the postseason. And that's been true

1075
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:31,760
Speaker 4: since he started replacing Joe Flacco all those years ago. However,

1076
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:38,040
Speaker 4: there's been these moments where big games, Lamar Jackson, he's

1077
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:40,759
Speaker 4: played poorly and he's compounded it.

1078
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:43,279
Speaker 1: And I agree with you.

1079
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:47,040
Speaker 4: By chasing right, by feeling the pressure of the moment,

1080
00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:50,840
Speaker 4: by trying to overdo it, extend plays too far where

1081
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:53,440
Speaker 4: all of a sudden, he's dancing in the backfield and

1082
00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:56,560
Speaker 4: he gets sacked, and you can't take a sack in

1083
00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:58,719
Speaker 4: the situation where he gets sacked, or he's dancing in

1084
00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:00,720
Speaker 4: the backfield and all of a sudden he doesn't feel

1085
00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:03,239
Speaker 4: the pressure, but a pass rusher swats the ball out

1086
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:06,360
Speaker 4: of his hand and he fumbles, and you know, that's

1087
00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:08,840
Speaker 4: that's been an issue in the pass with Lamar Jackson.

1088
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:12,280
Speaker 1: Or he throws an ill fated pass, you know, off.

1089
00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:15,239
Speaker 4: His back foot and it's intercepted by the defense, and

1090
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:19,000
Speaker 4: that's been a problem for Lamar Jackson in big games. Now,

1091
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:21,520
Speaker 4: he did have a big game at the end of

1092
00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 4: the season that I believe he played way over what

1093
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:27,160
Speaker 4: we typically.

1094
00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:28,160
Speaker 1: See out of Lamar in a big game.

1095
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:31,319
Speaker 4: It was a primetime San Francisco forty nine ers in

1096
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:33,960
Speaker 4: Santa Clara game toward the end of the regular season,

1097
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:37,560
Speaker 4: and they absolutely mopped up the Niners, and I thought

1098
00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:42,720
Speaker 4: that was a great especially since they rested everybody, including

1099
00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:45,799
Speaker 4: Lamar the last week of the regular season. That was

1100
00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:49,600
Speaker 4: a great moment for him to use as an analog

1101
00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:52,520
Speaker 4: for this for the type of pressure. It doesn't exactly

1102
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:55,200
Speaker 4: mimic the pressure, but the type of pressure that he's

1103
00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:57,480
Speaker 4: gonna face during the postseason.

1104
00:56:58,120 --> 00:57:01,200
Speaker 1: I agree with you though, the one way to get.

1105
00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:04,040
Speaker 4: Lamar Jackson out of his game is to have him

1106
00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:06,799
Speaker 4: play from behind. So if I'm Andy Reid and I'm

1107
00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:09,920
Speaker 4: the Kansas Kansas City Chiefs, if there's a way to

1108
00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:13,120
Speaker 4: get the football first, I'm doing it. And those first

1109
00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:17,080
Speaker 4: ten plays they better be scripted for success because the

1110
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:19,720
Speaker 4: Ravens are a tough matchup when they have a lead,

1111
00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:22,760
Speaker 4: and I think the game gets a lot easier when

1112
00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:25,320
Speaker 4: they're playing from behind because Jackson is not a play

1113
00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:26,760
Speaker 4: from behind type of quarterback.

1114
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:30,760
Speaker 2: Now, as far as all time legacy, this is where

1115
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:35,400
Speaker 2: I look at Mahomes right now, and some people will

1116
00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:38,720
Speaker 2: say that he may already be number two to Tom Brady.

1117
00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:42,200
Speaker 2: You know, there's no arguing obviously number one. The Joe

1118
00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:48,840
Speaker 2: Montana versus Patrick Mahomes comparison, where I still give Montana

1119
00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:50,160
Speaker 2: the slight edge.

1120
00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:51,960
Speaker 3: Now, overall, we.

1121
00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:54,160
Speaker 2: Mentioned the fact that Malomes is thirteen and three in

1122
00:57:54,200 --> 00:57:57,920
Speaker 2: the postseason, including a couple of playoff runs with the

1123
00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:01,080
Speaker 2: Chiefs at the end of his career. Montana sixteen and seven.

1124
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:05,680
Speaker 2: Here's the edge though to Montana still over Mahomes. First

1125
00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:08,000
Speaker 2: of all, you have four wins in Super Bowls, four

1126
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:12,400
Speaker 2: for four. In those four Super Bowls, Joe Montana did

1127
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:14,040
Speaker 2: not throw a single interception.

1128
00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:16,800
Speaker 3: Just think about that.

1129
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:18,600
Speaker 4: That's insane. So he was He was.

1130
00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:24,040
Speaker 2: Four for four and did not throw a single interception

1131
00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:28,560
Speaker 2: in any one of those Super Bowls. Mahomes already has

1132
00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:31,440
Speaker 2: a Super Bowl loss and it was ugly to Tampa.

1133
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:34,240
Speaker 2: Wasn't all his fault, obviously, he was complete collapse of

1134
00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:39,000
Speaker 2: his offensive line. But that perfection, I mean, that's perfection

1135
00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:41,880
Speaker 2: by Montana and super Bowls then getting more perfect than

1136
00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:46,400
Speaker 2: that four for four, zero interceptions. That's why I still

1137
00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:49,240
Speaker 2: get Montana the edge. But I will say this, if

1138
00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:55,520
Speaker 2: Mahomes this year having to win at Buffalo and at

1139
00:58:55,760 --> 00:59:01,480
Speaker 2: Baltimore just to get to the Super Bowl, that takes

1140
00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:05,680
Speaker 2: him past everybody, with the exception of Brady and Montana.

1141
00:59:06,080 --> 00:59:10,000
Speaker 2: See you later, Peyton Manning, Aaron Rodgers, get any other quarterback,

1142
00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:16,280
Speaker 2: Mahomes is top three all time if he takes this

1143
00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:18,880
Speaker 2: Chiefs team to a third Super Bowl win.

1144
00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:28,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Look, Joe Montana has some He casts a

1145
00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:32,000
Speaker 4: shadow that very few quarterbacks will ever be able to

1146
00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:36,400
Speaker 4: measure up to, and that includes Tom Brady. Right. There's

1147
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:39,520
Speaker 4: no question that there are greats that we will always

1148
00:59:39,640 --> 00:59:43,960
Speaker 4: refer back to when we talk about comparisons and greatness

1149
00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:47,480
Speaker 4: and all time lists and all of those things. However,

1150
00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:51,120
Speaker 4: I will say this about Patrick Mahomes, and this may

1151
00:59:51,600 --> 00:59:55,600
Speaker 4: need years to be proven true, but I don't think

1152
00:59:55,640 --> 01:00:00,000
Speaker 4: I've ever seen a quarterback who's better than Patrick mahone

1153
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:04,080
Speaker 4: Homes at the quarterback position. And what I mean by

1154
01:00:04,080 --> 01:00:07,080
Speaker 4: that not not I'm not talking about winning in success,

1155
01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:09,800
Speaker 4: and obviously he's had winning in success as a result

1156
01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:13,080
Speaker 4: of his talents. I'm talking about being the most talented

1157
01:00:13,160 --> 01:00:18,080
Speaker 4: quarterback I've ever seen. Tom Brady He's won seven championships,

1158
01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:22,160
Speaker 4: and I understand he's uh, He's checked so many boxes

1159
01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:25,000
Speaker 4: it's it's impossible to argue that he's the greatest of

1160
01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:25,520
Speaker 4: all time.

1161
01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:27,600
Speaker 1: And Joe Montana was perfect.

1162
01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:30,160
Speaker 4: You know, he scratched off those four titles and he

1163
01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:35,520
Speaker 4: never missed one on his on his playoff runs. However,

1164
01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:37,760
Speaker 4: I look at Patrick Mahomes and I think he's more

1165
01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:39,240
Speaker 4: talented than both of those guys.

1166
01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:43,080
Speaker 3: I you know, I mean in physical talent. I have

1167
01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:44,080
Speaker 3: no question about it.

1168
01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:46,040
Speaker 4: I look at Aaron Rodgers and I used to he

1169
01:00:46,200 --> 01:00:48,560
Speaker 4: used to be the player that I used to say

1170
01:00:48,560 --> 01:00:51,400
Speaker 4: that about. Like I used to, I really still feel

1171
01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:54,280
Speaker 4: strongly that Aaron Rodgers is more talented than Tom Brady

1172
01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:58,520
Speaker 4: and Joe Montana. But Patrick Mahomes has even surpassed Aaron

1173
01:00:58,560 --> 01:01:02,520
Speaker 4: Rodgers just in his physical capabilities, his gifts, his ability

1174
01:01:02,560 --> 01:01:05,400
Speaker 4: to throw off platform, his ability to play injured just

1175
01:01:05,440 --> 01:01:09,960
Speaker 4: as well as when he's healthy. His ability to read defenses,

1176
01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:12,680
Speaker 4: to read defenses on the run, to extend plays, to

1177
01:01:12,680 --> 01:01:16,160
Speaker 4: get yards with his legs, I mean, his arm talent.

1178
01:01:17,720 --> 01:01:20,280
Speaker 4: All the things that we said about Aaron Rodgers during

1179
01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:24,360
Speaker 4: his four MVP career, his one super Bowl career, I

1180
01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:27,200
Speaker 4: say about Patrick Mahomes, and then you add to the

1181
01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:31,640
Speaker 4: equation he's a proven winner in the postseason consistently over

1182
01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:35,680
Speaker 4: these past six years as a starter. I all of

1183
01:01:35,720 --> 01:01:41,000
Speaker 4: those things being said, Lamar Jackson could potentially have the

1184
01:01:41,080 --> 01:01:46,400
Speaker 4: talent to especially if the game goes right for the Ravens.

1185
01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:49,840
Speaker 4: If the game, if the Ravens jump out to an

1186
01:01:49,840 --> 01:01:52,280
Speaker 4: early lead, if the Chiefs make an early mistake, if

1187
01:01:52,320 --> 01:01:54,640
Speaker 4: they capitalize on that mistake and they turn it into

1188
01:01:54,640 --> 01:01:58,080
Speaker 4: three points or six points. You know, if the Ravens

1189
01:01:58,360 --> 01:02:02,080
Speaker 4: somehow grab momentum early with the home crowd behind them,

1190
01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:05,640
Speaker 4: he could still send Mahomes home today. It's not saying

1191
01:02:05,680 --> 01:02:08,280
Speaker 4: that it's a fate complete that the Chiefs are going

1192
01:02:08,360 --> 01:02:10,520
Speaker 4: to be in the Super Bowl, But I have that

1193
01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:14,520
Speaker 4: much respect for Mahomes that against any team in any season,

1194
01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:18,560
Speaker 4: if Mahomes is on the field, he tilts the favor

1195
01:02:19,080 --> 01:02:24,600
Speaker 4: in that team's direction so violently that I can't even

1196
01:02:24,640 --> 01:02:27,520
Speaker 4: if the Chiefs were dogged by ten points today, I

1197
01:02:27,520 --> 01:02:29,120
Speaker 4: would still take the Chiefs to win.

1198
01:02:29,240 --> 01:02:32,280
Speaker 2: By the way, neither Montana or Brady were perfect by

1199
01:02:32,320 --> 01:02:36,200
Speaker 2: any stretch of the imagination. For instance, between Montana's second

1200
01:02:36,240 --> 01:02:38,919
Speaker 2: and third Super Bowl wins, there were three straight years

1201
01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:40,840
Speaker 2: they got bounced in the first round of the playoffs,

1202
01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:43,200
Speaker 2: and he did not throw a touchdown pass in any

1203
01:02:43,200 --> 01:02:45,880
Speaker 2: of those games. And Tom Brady do we have to

1204
01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:49,240
Speaker 2: remember there was a ten year gap between his first

1205
01:02:49,240 --> 01:02:51,760
Speaker 2: three Super Bowls and the start of his second three

1206
01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:53,000
Speaker 2: time run in New England.

1207
01:02:53,240 --> 01:02:53,880
Speaker 3: Ten years.

1208
01:02:54,600 --> 01:02:57,440
Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean, none of these quarterbacks are perfect,

1209
01:02:57,440 --> 01:03:01,600
Speaker 2: but Mahomes if he wins a Super Bowl this year, wow,

1210
01:03:02,040 --> 01:03:05,920
Speaker 2: especially if it includes road wins against the Bills. Finished

1211
01:03:06,680 --> 01:03:09,520
Speaker 2: And we got unfinished business coming up as the Chiefs

1212
01:03:09,520 --> 01:03:12,240
Speaker 2: get ready to take on the Ravens in Baltimore. All right,

1213
01:03:12,320 --> 01:03:15,320
Speaker 2: let's find out what is trending right now. Nick Cope

1214
01:03:15,400 --> 01:03:18,920
Speaker 2: is back. Right now, Nick, do you have a feeling

1215
01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:21,200
Speaker 2: about this AFC Championship game?

1216
01:03:21,800 --> 01:03:25,320
Speaker 9: Give me the Ravens, the complete team, complete team, most

1217
01:03:25,360 --> 01:03:26,000
Speaker 9: complete team.

1218
01:03:26,160 --> 01:03:26,320
Speaker 7: You know.

1219
01:03:26,560 --> 01:03:28,560
Speaker 9: I like how everybody says, and I get it, Like,

1220
01:03:29,080 --> 01:03:33,040
Speaker 9: I can't bet against Mahomes and Reid unless until they

1221
01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:35,720
Speaker 9: give me a reason. Well, you got to be ahead

1222
01:03:35,840 --> 01:03:38,280
Speaker 9: of the trend at some point, so I'm getting ahead

1223
01:03:38,320 --> 01:03:42,240
Speaker 9: of it right now. Ravens most complete team, chief shorthanded

1224
01:03:42,320 --> 01:03:46,160
Speaker 9: on the offensive line and at linebacker. I just think

1225
01:03:46,160 --> 01:03:47,480
Speaker 9: the Ravens have too much here.

1226
01:03:47,600 --> 01:03:51,120
Speaker 2: The one thing again for the Chiefs going for them

1227
01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:54,240
Speaker 2: is their pass defense, which is outstanding.

1228
01:03:54,480 --> 01:03:57,560
Speaker 9: DB's against those Ravens receivers, that's going to be a

1229
01:03:57,560 --> 01:04:00,000
Speaker 9: great matchup and probably the best secondary that the Ravens

1230
01:04:00,160 --> 01:04:01,480
Speaker 9: have gone against in a little while.

1231
01:04:01,640 --> 01:04:04,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, and again, Mahomes has had some dog games, I

1232
01:04:04,600 --> 01:04:07,560
Speaker 2: mean in the postseason, the blowout loss in the Super Bowl,

1233
01:04:07,640 --> 01:04:10,760
Speaker 2: in that ugly second half against the Bengals to blow

1234
01:04:10,760 --> 01:04:13,160
Speaker 2: that AFC Championship game a couple of years ago. But

1235
01:04:13,800 --> 01:04:17,520
Speaker 2: I'm one of those that say until until proven otherwise,

1236
01:04:18,440 --> 01:04:18,880
Speaker 2: I get it.

1237
01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:20,800
Speaker 3: I'm I'm I'm I'm lading with.

1238
01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:25,520
Speaker 9: Mats ultimate you know, equaling factor in this because all

1239
01:04:25,560 --> 01:04:27,880
Speaker 9: signs point to Baltimore.

1240
01:04:27,640 --> 01:04:31,600
Speaker 2: And and it's a if it's a close game, lookout yep,

1241
01:04:31,680 --> 01:04:32,880
Speaker 2: yeah yeah.

1242
01:04:32,520 --> 01:04:35,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's uh Hey, Nick, I'm I'm with you, but

1243
01:04:35,960 --> 01:04:39,200
Speaker 4: I'm I'm I and well, actually I shouldn't say I'm

1244
01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:42,320
Speaker 4: with you because I'm picking the Chiefs, but I understand

1245
01:04:42,360 --> 01:04:45,080
Speaker 4: where you're coming from. And all I'll say is there

1246
01:04:45,080 --> 01:04:47,320
Speaker 4: were a lot of people looking to jump off the

1247
01:04:47,360 --> 01:04:51,200
Speaker 4: Brady New England train really early on, and they just

1248
01:04:51,640 --> 01:04:52,920
Speaker 4: kept winning.

1249
01:04:53,160 --> 01:04:56,880
Speaker 9: Like this does have a Patriots feel to it here

1250
01:04:57,480 --> 01:05:00,400
Speaker 9: with the Chiefs, and it's just kind of patchwork together.

1251
01:05:00,440 --> 01:05:02,720
Speaker 9: He got the coach, he got the quarterback, and they're

1252
01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:06,200
Speaker 9: gonna find a way with everything else. So I get it,

1253
01:05:06,280 --> 01:05:08,240
Speaker 9: and I think Kansas City is going to be an

1254
01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:10,720
Speaker 9: improved team next year. I don't think they're going anywhere

1255
01:05:10,800 --> 01:05:14,240
Speaker 9: now by a long shot. But if not now, then

1256
01:05:14,280 --> 01:05:16,880
Speaker 9: when For Baltimore, it seems like their team is set

1257
01:05:16,960 --> 01:05:17,800
Speaker 9: up to get this done.

1258
01:05:17,840 --> 01:05:19,720
Speaker 3: Well, we'll see if they learned from four years ago.

1259
01:05:19,840 --> 01:05:21,520
Speaker 2: I mean, they got bounced in the first round four

1260
01:05:21,560 --> 01:05:22,640
Speaker 2: years ago by the Titans.

1261
01:05:22,640 --> 01:05:24,000
Speaker 3: They got the big win last week.

1262
01:05:24,640 --> 01:05:26,760
Speaker 2: They shook off the rust of that first half against

1263
01:05:26,760 --> 01:05:29,320
Speaker 2: the Texans and just dominated the rest of that game.

1264
01:05:29,360 --> 01:05:31,600
Speaker 2: If that team shows up that we saw on the

1265
01:05:31,640 --> 01:05:34,320
Speaker 2: second half against the Texans, yeah, the Ravens will win.

1266
01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:34,560
Speaker 4: Now.

1267
01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:37,320
Speaker 9: A lot of money on Baltimore coming in over the

1268
01:05:37,400 --> 01:05:39,520
Speaker 9: last twenty four hours or so as well, that line

1269
01:05:39,520 --> 01:05:41,560
Speaker 9: all the way up to four and a half in

1270
01:05:41,640 --> 01:05:45,600
Speaker 9: favor of Baltimore. Here this morning injury news Ravens All

1271
01:05:45,640 --> 01:05:48,520
Speaker 9: Pro corner Marlin Humphrey. He was questionable with the capstrain.

1272
01:05:48,640 --> 01:05:51,360
Speaker 9: He's active and good to go. Chiefs will not have

1273
01:05:51,480 --> 01:05:54,680
Speaker 9: linebacker Willie Gay. He is inactive due to next bas.

1274
01:05:54,840 --> 01:05:56,880
Speaker 9: That's a big deal for this Kansas City defense because

1275
01:05:57,120 --> 01:05:58,960
Speaker 9: he was thought to be a guy that could spy

1276
01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:02,800
Speaker 9: Lamar this game and his neck was apparently it was

1277
01:06:02,880 --> 01:06:05,800
Speaker 9: loosening up last night, tightened up again this morning when

1278
01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:08,600
Speaker 9: he woke up. So yeah, no Willie Gay defensively for

1279
01:06:08,680 --> 01:06:12,120
Speaker 9: Kansas City. We also had Cadarius Tony, who won't play

1280
01:06:12,160 --> 01:06:14,440
Speaker 9: today because of a hip injury. He was on Instagram

1281
01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:17,280
Speaker 9: live this morning and in the midst of an exploitive

1282
01:06:17,320 --> 01:06:20,160
Speaker 9: filled rant, he says he's not hurt and the Chiefs

1283
01:06:20,160 --> 01:06:23,240
Speaker 9: are lying about his injury, so we'll see.

1284
01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:25,600
Speaker 2: If about the birth of his daughter, they said that

1285
01:06:25,680 --> 01:06:27,080
Speaker 2: was the personal reason.

1286
01:06:27,360 --> 01:06:30,960
Speaker 9: His designation was hip slash personal and his daughter was

1287
01:06:31,000 --> 01:06:33,880
Speaker 9: born last night. But you know, if he you know,

1288
01:06:34,000 --> 01:06:36,760
Speaker 9: had no injury. I'm sure he would have found a

1289
01:06:36,760 --> 01:06:38,840
Speaker 9: way to play. But you can kind of read into

1290
01:06:38,880 --> 01:06:41,720
Speaker 9: this situation as you like, given the season that Tony

1291
01:06:41,760 --> 01:06:46,920
Speaker 9: has had. We did have a Jim Harbaum appearing on

1292
01:06:47,160 --> 01:06:50,560
Speaker 9: the CBS pregame show and he was asked by Bill

1293
01:06:50,640 --> 01:06:53,760
Speaker 9: Cower about going back to the NFL and how difficult

1294
01:06:53,960 --> 01:06:56,000
Speaker 9: was it? So I have a portion of this. Harbaugh

1295
01:06:56,080 --> 01:06:57,360
Speaker 9: kind of sums up the decision.

1296
01:06:57,760 --> 01:06:58,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was tough.

1297
01:06:59,040 --> 01:07:00,920
Speaker 1: I was torn my wife, kids.

1298
01:07:01,680 --> 01:07:03,160
Speaker 3: I love Michigan, but I love the.

1299
01:07:03,200 --> 01:07:07,360
Speaker 10: NFL too, And there's no Lombardi Trophy in college football,

1300
01:07:07,400 --> 01:07:09,960
Speaker 10: and yeah, I got so many sands left in the

1301
01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:12,000
Speaker 10: hour glass and I want I want to take a

1302
01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:14,680
Speaker 10: crack at that, and there's there's nowhere better to do

1303
01:07:14,760 --> 01:07:17,120
Speaker 10: it than with the Los Angeles Chargers.

1304
01:07:17,520 --> 01:07:18,760
Speaker 9: So you kind of get it right there. And the

1305
01:07:18,800 --> 01:07:21,280
Speaker 9: Lombardi Trophy I thought we expected.

1306
01:07:21,920 --> 01:07:24,120
Speaker 3: Not only was he a coach, he played a long

1307
01:07:24,200 --> 01:07:25,120
Speaker 3: time in the NFL.

1308
01:07:25,360 --> 01:07:26,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean he had.

1309
01:07:26,200 --> 01:07:28,600
Speaker 3: He had a long career in the NFL with the

1310
01:07:28,640 --> 01:07:32,120
Speaker 3: Bears and Coles, the Chargers, and so when you play

1311
01:07:32,160 --> 01:07:36,160
Speaker 3: that long and you're chasing that trophy and it's the

1312
01:07:36,200 --> 01:07:39,880
Speaker 3: only thing missing on your resume. It does make sense. Yeah,

1313
01:07:39,920 --> 01:07:40,720
Speaker 3: a lot of sense.

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01:07:41,040 --> 01:07:41,200
Speaker 4: Yeah.

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01:07:41,320 --> 01:07:43,960
Speaker 9: So excited to see the Chargers next year, six thirty

1316
01:07:44,000 --> 01:07:47,080
Speaker 9: Eastern at Santa Clara forty nine Ers hosting the Lions.

1317
01:07:47,360 --> 01:07:50,600
Speaker 9: Detroit has lost eleven straight road playoff games, longest streak

1318
01:07:50,600 --> 01:07:53,000
Speaker 9: in NFL history. The last time they won a road

1319
01:07:53,000 --> 01:07:56,880
Speaker 9: playoff game nineteen fifty seven at Keysar Stadium in San

1320
01:07:56,920 --> 01:07:59,120
Speaker 9: Francisco against the forty nine Ers.

1321
01:07:59,160 --> 01:08:00,760
Speaker 2: I am glad you meant that, because I'm going to

1322
01:08:00,840 --> 01:08:02,720
Speaker 2: run down a little bit about that game coming up.

1323
01:08:02,880 --> 01:08:05,880
Speaker 5: I had a feel I remember.

1324
01:08:08,360 --> 01:08:09,600
Speaker 3: In the second quarter of that game.

1325
01:08:10,080 --> 01:08:12,800
Speaker 2: Yes, I'll tell you everything you need to know about

1326
01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:13,840
Speaker 2: that famous game.

1327
01:08:14,000 --> 01:08:15,920
Speaker 9: A couple quick notes here before I get it back

1328
01:08:15,960 --> 01:08:19,160
Speaker 9: to you guys. Former Falcons coach Arthur Smith is reportedly

1329
01:08:19,240 --> 01:08:23,280
Speaker 9: interviewing for the Steelers offensive coordinator job Janick Center won

1330
01:08:23,320 --> 01:08:26,920
Speaker 9: the Australian Open over to Neil Medvedev. College basketball Number

1331
01:08:26,960 --> 01:08:30,200
Speaker 9: one Yukon won again blew out Xavier ninety six fifty six.

1332
01:08:30,280 --> 01:08:33,799
Speaker 9: Huskies are eighteen and two per due battling with Rutgers

1333
01:08:33,800 --> 01:08:36,160
Speaker 9: in New Jersey forty five thirty eight for the number

1334
01:08:36,160 --> 01:08:39,240
Speaker 9: two boiler Makers. Midway through the second half back to

1335
01:08:39,280 --> 01:08:40,920
Speaker 9: you guys. All right, thank you very much.

1336
01:08:40,960 --> 01:08:41,120
Speaker 4: Nick.

1337
01:08:41,160 --> 01:08:43,000
Speaker 3: We'll check in with you a little bit later on

1338
01:08:43,000 --> 01:08:45,880
Speaker 3: once this game kicks off, which is now about twenty

1339
01:08:45,920 --> 01:08:47,160
Speaker 3: three minutes away.

1340
01:08:47,920 --> 01:08:51,240
Speaker 2: Once again, this is Fox Sports Red Zone Radio. I'm

1341
01:08:51,240 --> 01:08:53,800
Speaker 2: gonna say that I gotta get this thing out of

1342
01:08:53,840 --> 01:08:58,479
Speaker 2: the way. So nineteen fifty seven, if you're a Lions fan,

1343
01:08:58,520 --> 01:09:00,640
Speaker 2: it's a famous year because that's the last time the

1344
01:09:00,680 --> 01:09:04,519
Speaker 2: Lions won an NFL championship, but they almost didn't get there.

1345
01:09:04,920 --> 01:09:08,520
Speaker 2: So back in those days, pre you know, even AFL,

1346
01:09:08,920 --> 01:09:13,320
Speaker 2: the NFL was divided into the Eastern and Western divisions,

1347
01:09:13,800 --> 01:09:18,120
Speaker 2: and if there was a tie for the division title,

1348
01:09:18,280 --> 01:09:21,760
Speaker 2: they actually had a divisional playoff game, which is what

1349
01:09:21,840 --> 01:09:24,840
Speaker 2: happened in nineteen fifty seven between the Lions and the

1350
01:09:24,880 --> 01:09:27,800
Speaker 2: forty nine Ers. The game was at Keyzar Stadium, which

1351
01:09:27,880 --> 01:09:30,200
Speaker 2: was the old home of the forty nine ers, and

1352
01:09:30,240 --> 01:09:33,080
Speaker 2: the Lions were without their Hall of Fame quarterback Bobby

1353
01:09:33,160 --> 01:09:35,639
Speaker 2: Laney had broken his leg, so they had their backup

1354
01:09:35,680 --> 01:09:38,920
Speaker 2: quarterback Tobin Road in the game. This game was all

1355
01:09:38,960 --> 01:09:42,040
Speaker 2: forty nine Ers, rich twenty seven to seven. The forty

1356
01:09:42,080 --> 01:09:44,880
Speaker 2: nine Ers are winning. Midway through the third quarter, they're

1357
01:09:44,880 --> 01:09:46,840
Speaker 2: dominating the forty nine Ers are going to move on

1358
01:09:46,880 --> 01:09:51,280
Speaker 2: to their first ever NFL championship game, and the Lions

1359
01:09:51,360 --> 01:09:57,120
Speaker 2: came roaring back twenty four unanswered and won the game

1360
01:09:57,360 --> 01:09:59,040
Speaker 2: thirty one to twenty seven.

1361
01:09:59,600 --> 01:10:03,880
Speaker 3: On the now, I say that, yeah, you could you project?

1362
01:10:04,080 --> 01:10:08,559
Speaker 2: Can you imagine the forty nine ers today midway through

1363
01:10:08,600 --> 01:10:12,559
Speaker 2: the third quarter leading the Lions twenty seven to seven,

1364
01:10:13,560 --> 01:10:15,800
Speaker 2: and then the Lions coming all the way back to

1365
01:10:15,840 --> 01:10:18,920
Speaker 2: win thirty one twenty seven as they did back in

1366
01:10:19,000 --> 01:10:23,360
Speaker 2: nineteen fifty seven? How how how insane would that be?

1367
01:10:23,960 --> 01:10:26,040
Speaker 2: And the reaction to that if the Lions were to

1368
01:10:26,080 --> 01:10:29,559
Speaker 2: pull off with the Lions of nineteen fifty seven pulled

1369
01:10:29,560 --> 01:10:31,600
Speaker 2: off on their trip to San Francisco.

1370
01:10:31,720 --> 01:10:34,559
Speaker 1: Well, you know what's funny about that question?

1371
01:10:34,840 --> 01:10:38,719
Speaker 4: And I wouldn't have said this if you didn't mention

1372
01:10:38,840 --> 01:10:43,280
Speaker 4: that game and put it in that context, because my

1373
01:10:43,360 --> 01:10:44,680
Speaker 4: brain probably wouldn't.

1374
01:10:44,320 --> 01:10:45,080
Speaker 1: Have brought me here.

1375
01:10:45,960 --> 01:10:49,600
Speaker 4: But if there's a team like close your eyes and

1376
01:10:49,680 --> 01:10:53,880
Speaker 4: imagine any of the four teams getting behind, like way behind,

1377
01:10:54,920 --> 01:10:57,320
Speaker 4: and think about who has the best chance of coming

1378
01:10:57,360 --> 01:10:59,000
Speaker 4: back and winning, It's the Lions.

1379
01:10:59,479 --> 01:10:59,960
Speaker 1: It's the Lion.

1380
01:11:00,880 --> 01:11:04,080
Speaker 4: I don't really believe in Brock Purdy coming from behind

1381
01:11:04,160 --> 01:11:05,800
Speaker 4: him winning a game, even though we saw it against

1382
01:11:05,840 --> 01:11:10,599
Speaker 4: the Packers, Like if they're getting route routed by the Lions,

1383
01:11:11,160 --> 01:11:13,760
Speaker 4: I don't see Purdy being able to do it. It

1384
01:11:13,800 --> 01:11:16,000
Speaker 4: was a really nice two minute drive that he put together,

1385
01:11:16,120 --> 01:11:18,080
Speaker 4: and I gave him all the credit in the world.

1386
01:11:18,280 --> 01:11:21,040
Speaker 4: He was sensational in that final drive against the Packers

1387
01:11:21,120 --> 01:11:23,559
Speaker 4: last week. But if they're down three scores, you could

1388
01:11:23,760 --> 01:11:26,719
Speaker 4: you just count the forty nine ers out. I feel

1389
01:11:26,760 --> 01:11:29,439
Speaker 4: the same exact way about Lamar Jackson and the Baltimore Ravens.

1390
01:11:30,240 --> 01:11:34,400
Speaker 4: I think that the Baltimore Ravens offense is incapable of

1391
01:11:34,439 --> 01:11:37,240
Speaker 4: coming back from that many scores, And I.

1392
01:11:37,200 --> 01:11:39,120
Speaker 1: Feel similarly about the Chiefs.

1393
01:11:39,200 --> 01:11:42,400
Speaker 4: I think if the Ravens are off to a rampage start,

1394
01:11:43,000 --> 01:11:47,479
Speaker 4: I think there is no way, there's no light against

1395
01:11:47,479 --> 01:11:52,439
Speaker 4: that Baltimore Ravens defense and how powerful that rushing attack

1396
01:11:52,479 --> 01:11:58,040
Speaker 4: from Lamar Jackson and Gus Edwards and that backfield and

1397
01:11:58,680 --> 01:12:01,160
Speaker 4: you know some of the other you know, unique things

1398
01:12:01,160 --> 01:12:03,599
Speaker 4: that they can do with likely now at tight end

1399
01:12:03,640 --> 01:12:06,200
Speaker 4: and Mark Andrew's back with the short passing game. I

1400
01:12:06,280 --> 01:12:08,600
Speaker 4: just don't see how the Chiefs could come back. But

1401
01:12:08,720 --> 01:12:12,920
Speaker 4: the Lions man that Lions Ben Johnson led as an

1402
01:12:12,960 --> 01:12:16,920
Speaker 4: offensive coordinator, Jared Goff led as a quarterback. That Lion's

1403
01:12:17,000 --> 01:12:21,880
Speaker 4: offense is explosive. They're creative, Jared Goff. There have been

1404
01:12:21,960 --> 01:12:25,679
Speaker 4: moments where it looks like he's playing and you could

1405
01:12:25,720 --> 01:12:28,000
Speaker 4: say the same thing about Lamar and Patrick Mahomes two.

1406
01:12:28,040 --> 01:12:29,639
Speaker 4: But it feels like there have been times this season

1407
01:12:29,640 --> 01:12:33,599
Speaker 4: where he was just playing unconscious, like everything was going

1408
01:12:33,680 --> 01:12:34,200
Speaker 4: his way.

1409
01:12:34,479 --> 01:12:35,880
Speaker 1: He's got the he's got.

1410
01:12:35,800 --> 01:12:38,840
Speaker 4: The arm talent. The Lions are kind of playing with

1411
01:12:38,920 --> 01:12:41,880
Speaker 4: house money anyways. So if there's a team in this

1412
01:12:42,240 --> 01:12:44,880
Speaker 4: the four teams left that falls way behind, I think

1413
01:12:44,920 --> 01:12:47,639
Speaker 4: it's the Lions stand the best chance to come back.

1414
01:12:47,680 --> 01:12:49,599
Speaker 2: All right, coming up on the other side, we talk

1415
01:12:49,640 --> 01:12:52,200
Speaker 2: about legacy, and this is what this all comes down

1416
01:12:52,240 --> 01:12:56,800
Speaker 2: to for players and other people involved in games like this.

1417
01:12:57,000 --> 01:13:00,240
Speaker 2: We have one person that could take his legacy to

1418
01:13:00,320 --> 01:13:03,120
Speaker 2: the next level with a win today.

1419
01:13:03,360 --> 01:13:04,240
Speaker 3: Tell you who that is.

1420
01:13:04,280 --> 01:13:08,040
Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Red Zone Radio, Steve Harvey, Rich Hornberger,

1421
01:13:08,080 --> 01:13:10,320
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Red Zone Radio. We are live from the

1422
01:13:10,400 --> 01:13:12,880
Speaker 2: ti iraq dot Com studios. All Right, we're less than

1423
01:13:12,880 --> 01:13:16,080
Speaker 2: fifteen minutes away of kickoff between the Chiefs and the

1424
01:13:16,160 --> 01:13:18,719
Speaker 2: Ravens for the AFC Championship Game.

1425
01:13:19,360 --> 01:13:21,440
Speaker 3: Who's going to go to the Super Bowl.

1426
01:13:21,840 --> 01:13:26,360
Speaker 2: Well, it matters to everybody involved, obviously, And when we

1427
01:13:26,400 --> 01:13:32,120
Speaker 2: talk about legacy, we have players who obviously are judged

1428
01:13:32,240 --> 01:13:35,720
Speaker 2: very much on their team's success in terms of their legacy, but.

1429
01:13:36,160 --> 01:13:37,600
Speaker 3: Even more so coaches.

1430
01:13:38,800 --> 01:13:42,920
Speaker 2: So there are three current coaches in the NFL rich

1431
01:13:43,040 --> 01:13:48,920
Speaker 2: that literally almost have identical resumes. Three All three of

1432
01:13:48,960 --> 01:13:53,040
Speaker 2: these guys have a career regular season winning percentage between

1433
01:13:53,160 --> 01:13:56,800
Speaker 2: six eighteen and six twenty. It's almost identical. All three

1434
01:13:56,800 --> 01:13:58,800
Speaker 2: of these guys have won at least one hundred and

1435
01:13:58,800 --> 01:14:02,080
Speaker 2: sixty games included. Two of these guys have won exactly

1436
01:14:02,120 --> 01:14:04,559
Speaker 2: one hundred and sixty, the other one hundred and sixty seven.

1437
01:14:05,439 --> 01:14:07,640
Speaker 2: They also have one a thinking common all three of

1438
01:14:07,680 --> 01:14:10,599
Speaker 2: these coaches, they've all been in their lengthy careers as

1439
01:14:10,640 --> 01:14:14,400
Speaker 2: head coaches to only a single Super Bowl, and they

1440
01:14:14,439 --> 01:14:21,919
Speaker 2: won it. They are Sean Payton, Mike McCarthy, and John Harbaugh.

1441
01:14:23,240 --> 01:14:26,400
Speaker 2: John Harbaugh get this, His career regular season record is

1442
01:14:26,439 --> 01:14:29,519
Speaker 2: one hundred and sixty and ninety nine. Sean Payton is

1443
01:14:29,520 --> 01:14:33,680
Speaker 2: one hundred and sixty and ninety eight, and both have

1444
01:14:33,760 --> 01:14:37,240
Speaker 2: been to one super Bowl and won it. Mike McCarthy

1445
01:14:37,600 --> 01:14:41,400
Speaker 2: is won sixty seven and one oh two and he

1446
01:14:41,479 --> 01:14:43,800
Speaker 2: went to one Super Bowl and won it. And when

1447
01:14:43,840 --> 01:14:46,160
Speaker 2: I talk about legacy, I'm talking about, you know, Hall

1448
01:14:46,240 --> 01:14:49,040
Speaker 2: of Fame down the road right right. And so if

1449
01:14:49,040 --> 01:14:51,479
Speaker 2: you've only been to a single Super Bowl, even if

1450
01:14:51,520 --> 01:14:54,400
Speaker 2: you won it, and you've won over sixty percent of

1451
01:14:54,439 --> 01:14:57,320
Speaker 2: your games, based on the track record of some other

1452
01:14:57,360 --> 01:15:00,360
Speaker 2: coaches with similar resumes, it's a tough row to get

1453
01:15:00,360 --> 01:15:01,280
Speaker 2: to the Hall of Fame.

1454
01:15:01,800 --> 01:15:03,360
Speaker 3: If John Harbaugh wins a.

1455
01:15:03,400 --> 01:15:07,479
Speaker 2: Super Bowl this year, much as Andy Reid winning multiple

1456
01:15:07,520 --> 01:15:09,960
Speaker 2: Super Bowls with the Chiefs that propelled him into the

1457
01:15:10,240 --> 01:15:14,559
Speaker 2: obvious Hall of Fame, he needs that right now. Otherwise,

1458
01:15:14,640 --> 01:15:18,880
Speaker 2: right now, John Harbaugh is the same as Sean Payton

1459
01:15:18,880 --> 01:15:21,000
Speaker 2: and Mike McCarthy, And I don't think right now I

1460
01:15:21,040 --> 01:15:23,640
Speaker 2: look at those two guys as guys that have as

1461
01:15:23,680 --> 01:15:24,719
Speaker 2: sured ticket to the Hall.

1462
01:15:24,960 --> 01:15:28,800
Speaker 4: Well, well, here's a guy who I think a lot

1463
01:15:28,880 --> 01:15:30,960
Speaker 4: of people think he's on the fast track to the

1464
01:15:31,000 --> 01:15:33,519
Speaker 4: Hall of Fame. And they may be right, because again,

1465
01:15:33,560 --> 01:15:35,320
Speaker 4: this is the reason why I think Halls of Fame

1466
01:15:35,840 --> 01:15:40,160
Speaker 4: are stupid and they shouldn't account for very much because

1467
01:15:40,200 --> 01:15:44,920
Speaker 4: it's completely subjective. Is Mike Tomlin Mike Tomlin. If you're

1468
01:15:44,920 --> 01:15:49,080
Speaker 4: gonna lump John Harbaugh and Sean Payton and Mike McCarthy

1469
01:15:49,120 --> 01:15:52,479
Speaker 4: into the same conversation, Mike Tomlin needs to be there too.

1470
01:15:53,040 --> 01:15:56,120
Speaker 4: In fact, Mike Tomlin has a worse playoff record than

1471
01:15:56,160 --> 01:15:59,960
Speaker 4: Mike McCarthy. Mike Tomlin has only won one Super Bowl,

1472
01:16:00,120 --> 01:16:04,879
Speaker 4: so is Mike McCarthy. Mike Tomlin's winning percentages sixty three percent.

1473
01:16:05,360 --> 01:16:10,680
Speaker 4: Mike mccarthy'says sixty two. So when everybody comes after Mike

1474
01:16:10,760 --> 01:16:13,519
Speaker 4: McCarthy for being this guy who's kind of a choke

1475
01:16:13,640 --> 01:16:17,400
Speaker 4: artist in the playoffs and this guy only has one

1476
01:16:17,479 --> 01:16:21,760
Speaker 4: Super Bowl win and he coached a Hall of Fame quarterback, well,

1477
01:16:21,800 --> 01:16:25,479
Speaker 4: guess what you're saying. You're saying the exact same thing

1478
01:16:25,479 --> 01:16:28,760
Speaker 4: about Mike Tomlin then, because guess what, Mike Tomlin he

1479
01:16:28,880 --> 01:16:31,639
Speaker 4: coached the Hall of Fame quarterback. And guess what, Mike

1480
01:16:31,720 --> 01:16:35,880
Speaker 4: McCarthy has a better playoff resume than Mike Tomlin. So

1481
01:16:36,720 --> 01:16:40,439
Speaker 4: when we start splitting hairs and talking about the all

1482
01:16:40,479 --> 01:16:42,760
Speaker 4: time greats or who belongs in the Hall of Fame,

1483
01:16:42,840 --> 01:16:48,000
Speaker 4: these conversations get really hard. When you start building your criteria,

1484
01:16:48,400 --> 01:16:50,880
Speaker 4: because I bet you for anybody out there, there's a

1485
01:16:50,920 --> 01:16:53,200
Speaker 4: lot of people who are listening to the sound of

1486
01:16:53,240 --> 01:16:55,280
Speaker 4: my voice and they're saying, yeah, Mike Tomlin's a Hall

1487
01:16:55,280 --> 01:16:58,360
Speaker 4: of Famer and Mike McCarthy isn't. But my question is

1488
01:16:58,479 --> 01:17:03,040
Speaker 4: why Mike McCarthy also had an offense that created a

1489
01:17:03,120 --> 01:17:06,080
Speaker 4: two time MVP winner in Aaron Rodgers. Why don't we

1490
01:17:06,120 --> 01:17:09,080
Speaker 4: give Mike McCarthy any credit for his two MVPs. He

1491
01:17:09,120 --> 01:17:12,320
Speaker 4: helped build Aaron Rodgers during his young years in the league.

1492
01:17:12,520 --> 01:17:15,120
Speaker 4: Like so, it's just a little weird, you know how

1493
01:17:15,240 --> 01:17:18,479
Speaker 4: some coaches get all the credit and some coaches are

1494
01:17:18,560 --> 01:17:20,439
Speaker 4: left holding the bag. You know.

1495
01:17:20,560 --> 01:17:22,120
Speaker 1: I well, and by.

1496
01:17:21,960 --> 01:17:23,600
Speaker 2: The way, there are I can give you plenty of

1497
01:17:23,640 --> 01:17:27,439
Speaker 2: examples of Hall of Fame coaches. Don coriel and never

1498
01:17:27,479 --> 01:17:29,400
Speaker 2: got to a Super Bowl. Yeah, and he's in the

1499
01:17:29,400 --> 01:17:32,320
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame. George Allen went to one Super Bowl

1500
01:17:32,400 --> 01:17:36,360
Speaker 2: and lost. He's in the Hall of Fame. John Madden

1501
01:17:37,439 --> 01:17:39,640
Speaker 2: went to one Super Bowl and won it. And he

1502
01:17:39,760 --> 01:17:43,479
Speaker 2: lost six conference or league championship games along the way

1503
01:17:43,760 --> 01:17:45,920
Speaker 2: and got to and they're in now. He had the

1504
01:17:45,960 --> 01:17:48,240
Speaker 2: highest winning percentage of any coach with at least one

1505
01:17:48,320 --> 01:17:51,040
Speaker 2: hundred wins. You look at Marv Levy own four and

1506
01:17:51,120 --> 01:17:53,880
Speaker 2: super Bowls he's in. By Grant owned four and super

1507
01:17:53,920 --> 01:17:56,920
Speaker 2: bowls he's in. So there really is no rhyme or reason.

1508
01:17:57,200 --> 01:18:00,679
Speaker 2: But when you start looking at guys and I understand

1509
01:18:00,680 --> 01:18:02,760
Speaker 2: what you're saying about Tomalin, and again he's been to

1510
01:18:02,840 --> 01:18:05,639
Speaker 2: two Super Bowls, lost one, but he has the single win.

1511
01:18:06,040 --> 01:18:08,320
Speaker 3: But this is the problem. You start lumping together.

1512
01:18:08,360 --> 01:18:12,400
Speaker 2: You say, well, if we're going to put in let's say,

1513
01:18:12,439 --> 01:18:15,599
Speaker 2: Mike McCarthy, well we have to put in John Harbaugh,

1514
01:18:15,720 --> 01:18:17,439
Speaker 2: or we have to put in Sean Payton, or we

1515
01:18:17,479 --> 01:18:20,479
Speaker 2: have to put in Mike Tomlin, because they're all very

1516
01:18:20,479 --> 01:18:21,200
Speaker 2: similar guys.

1517
01:18:21,280 --> 01:18:24,360
Speaker 4: And that's my point is, like, as much as everybody

1518
01:18:24,400 --> 01:18:28,000
Speaker 4: wants to debate the veracity of the Hall of Fame,

1519
01:18:28,360 --> 01:18:32,960
Speaker 4: the Hall of Fame is dumb, it's inaccurate, it's an

1520
01:18:33,000 --> 01:18:37,920
Speaker 4: inept measuring bar. It doesn't it doesn't matter it because

1521
01:18:38,200 --> 01:18:41,200
Speaker 4: you allow certain people in, and you allow and you

1522
01:18:41,320 --> 01:18:45,120
Speaker 4: keep certain people out, and the criteria changes, the conversation

1523
01:18:45,320 --> 01:18:48,960
Speaker 4: changes based on how we feel, and that's not how

1524
01:18:49,000 --> 01:18:49,559
Speaker 4: this works.

1525
01:18:49,880 --> 01:18:51,040
Speaker 1: That's not how this works.

1526
01:18:51,040 --> 01:18:53,200
Speaker 2: How about this, There are seven coaches in the history

1527
01:18:53,240 --> 01:18:55,200
Speaker 2: of the NFL that have won at least two hundred

1528
01:18:55,200 --> 01:19:02,240
Speaker 2: regular season games Shula, Hallis Belichick, read Andre Lambeau and

1529
01:19:02,400 --> 01:19:06,759
Speaker 2: Marty Schottenheimer. Wow, and Marty Schottenheimer, the late great Marty

1530
01:19:06,800 --> 01:19:12,120
Speaker 2: Schottenheimer has not gotten a sniff from the Hall, not

1531
01:19:12,240 --> 01:19:15,400
Speaker 2: even why because his whole season record is five and eleven,

1532
01:19:16,560 --> 01:19:19,040
Speaker 2: that's it. But he won two hundred games in the

1533
01:19:19,080 --> 01:19:22,479
Speaker 2: regular season. Only seven coaches have ever done that.

1534
01:19:22,880 --> 01:19:25,920
Speaker 4: All I'm saying is Mike Tomlin, as it stands right now,

1535
01:19:26,000 --> 01:19:28,760
Speaker 4: has a losing record in the postseason, and everybody has

1536
01:19:28,800 --> 01:19:32,360
Speaker 4: him ere. They have that page in history dog eared.

1537
01:19:32,560 --> 01:19:34,360
Speaker 4: He will be in the Hall of Fame. And like

1538
01:19:34,400 --> 01:19:39,439
Speaker 4: you said, Sean Payton, Mike McCarthy, John Harbaugh, if you

1539
01:19:39,520 --> 01:19:42,519
Speaker 4: put Mike Tomlin in, you better put those guys into

1540
01:19:42,680 --> 01:19:45,440
Speaker 4: because if he's deserving their deserving.

1541
01:19:45,200 --> 01:19:48,160
Speaker 2: Well, John Harbaugh can separate himself with the pack if

1542
01:19:48,160 --> 01:19:50,280
Speaker 2: he wins a second Super Bowl. Yeah, he wins with

1543
01:19:50,320 --> 01:19:53,120
Speaker 2: the record he has had since two thousand and it's

1544
01:19:53,120 --> 01:19:55,200
Speaker 2: been that long since he's been the coach of the Ravens.

1545
01:19:55,240 --> 01:19:58,200
Speaker 2: He's had a long run his sixteenth year with the Ravens.

1546
01:19:58,200 --> 01:20:01,240
Speaker 2: But if they win that second Super Bowl. He's there's

1547
01:20:01,280 --> 01:20:03,960
Speaker 2: no ifs ans er, but just like Andy Reid finally

1548
01:20:03,960 --> 01:20:06,759
Speaker 2: getting those Super Bowl wins with the Kansas City Chiefs.

1549
01:20:06,760 --> 01:20:09,559
Speaker 2: All right, so find a prediction before this game kicks off.

1550
01:20:09,720 --> 01:20:12,200
Speaker 2: I'm gonna give my right now. I'm with you.

1551
01:20:13,000 --> 01:20:17,040
Speaker 3: Chiefs twenty seven, Ravens twenty four.

1552
01:20:17,320 --> 01:20:23,360
Speaker 2: Wow, Wow, you got ten seconds to come up with

1553
01:20:23,400 --> 01:20:23,799
Speaker 2: a score.

1554
01:20:23,960 --> 01:20:27,400
Speaker 4: All right, I'm gonna say Chiefs thirty five. This is

1555
01:20:27,400 --> 01:20:29,960
Speaker 4: gonna be a high scoring game. Ravens twenty eight.

1556
01:20:30,360 --> 01:20:32,720
Speaker 3: Keep it right here, much more coming up, ready to

1557
01:20:32,880 --> 01:20:35,640
Speaker 3: kick it off. We are ready.

1558
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Speaker 2: Should be all right again, whether will not be a

1567
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Speaker 2: factor today. It's cool, but it's not ridiculous like it's

1568
01:21:02,200 --> 01:21:07,080
Speaker 2: been at several venues over the last couple of weeks.

1569
01:21:07,320 --> 01:21:07,960
Speaker 3: Which is good.

1570
01:21:08,439 --> 01:21:12,519
Speaker 2: I don't want you know, excuses either way, this is

1571
01:21:12,560 --> 01:21:18,720
Speaker 2: going to come down to again it's cliche, but it

1572
01:21:18,760 --> 01:21:22,240
Speaker 2: really comes down to the quarterbacks. You have Lamar Jackson,

1573
01:21:22,320 --> 01:21:24,639
Speaker 2: the assumed most valuable player of the league this year,

1574
01:21:25,360 --> 01:21:28,240
Speaker 2: and he's had a phenomenal season. We remember we said

1575
01:21:28,840 --> 01:21:32,000
Speaker 2: even before the season about the Ravens, and by the way,

1576
01:21:32,040 --> 01:21:33,800
Speaker 2: I was one of the people sort of jumped down

1577
01:21:33,800 --> 01:21:37,160
Speaker 2: the Ravens bandwagon a little bit sooner than some others did.

1578
01:21:37,200 --> 01:21:40,160
Speaker 2: But it was all about keeping Lamar Jackson healthy. I mean,

1579
01:21:40,160 --> 01:21:42,960
Speaker 2: if Lamar Jackson is healthy, which he had not been

1580
01:21:43,000 --> 01:21:45,519
Speaker 2: the last couple of years, late in the season, then

1581
01:21:45,520 --> 01:21:48,519
Speaker 2: the Ravens are in the conversation. And that's exactly what

1582
01:21:48,760 --> 01:21:51,760
Speaker 2: happened this year as far as the Ravens getting to

1583
01:21:51,800 --> 01:21:55,280
Speaker 2: this AFC Championship game. And on the other side, the

1584
01:21:55,400 --> 01:22:00,479
Speaker 2: Chiefs really have not looked right, certainly in terms of

1585
01:22:00,520 --> 01:22:03,040
Speaker 2: the level we've seen over the last five years.

1586
01:22:03,640 --> 01:22:07,000
Speaker 3: And yet despite all that, thanks.

1587
01:22:06,640 --> 01:22:10,120
Speaker 2: In large parts of their quarterback, the Chiefs are in

1588
01:22:10,160 --> 01:22:13,759
Speaker 2: their six consecutive AFC Championship game. And by the way,

1589
01:22:14,320 --> 01:22:17,479
Speaker 2: with this, Mahomes now breaks the record that he shared

1590
01:22:17,479 --> 01:22:22,320
Speaker 2: with of all people, Ken Stabler for most consecutive conference

1591
01:22:22,400 --> 01:22:24,840
Speaker 2: championship games started, they'd each had five.

1592
01:22:25,280 --> 01:22:28,840
Speaker 3: This is Mahomes six. So this one really comes down

1593
01:22:28,840 --> 01:22:29,759
Speaker 3: to these two quarterbacks.

1594
01:22:29,840 --> 01:22:34,160
Speaker 4: Rich, Yeah, it does. Look at many times in the NFL,

1595
01:22:34,439 --> 01:22:38,559
Speaker 4: I think we probably give quarterbacks way too much credit

1596
01:22:38,600 --> 01:22:42,599
Speaker 4: and we levy way too much blame. But in this matchup,

1597
01:22:43,000 --> 01:22:45,479
Speaker 4: when you really think about what makes both of these

1598
01:22:45,520 --> 01:22:51,720
Speaker 4: teams tick, the most consequential injury to either side, I mean,

1599
01:22:51,880 --> 01:22:53,760
Speaker 4: just to put it in terms of or lack of

1600
01:22:53,840 --> 01:22:58,280
Speaker 4: availability on either side, would be Patrick Mahomes or Lamar Jackson.

1601
01:22:58,640 --> 01:23:01,479
Speaker 4: Like they are the MVPs of their roster. And if

1602
01:23:01,560 --> 01:23:04,160
Speaker 4: you build a team right, you probably should look at

1603
01:23:04,160 --> 01:23:04,639
Speaker 4: it that way.

1604
01:23:05,000 --> 01:23:06,400
Speaker 1: You know, you should probably.

1605
01:23:06,000 --> 01:23:09,479
Speaker 4: Say, yeah, almost all of the best teams in the NFL,

1606
01:23:09,600 --> 01:23:12,160
Speaker 4: or say the top fourteen who end up going to

1607
01:23:12,200 --> 01:23:17,400
Speaker 4: the postseason, they're built very similarly. But it's especially true

1608
01:23:17,400 --> 01:23:20,799
Speaker 4: with the Chiefs and Mahomes and the Ravens with Lamar Jackson.

1609
01:23:20,880 --> 01:23:23,720
Speaker 4: Lamar Jackson is the beating heart of what makes this

1610
01:23:23,840 --> 01:23:27,520
Speaker 4: offense go. They've built this offense around his talents and ability.

1611
01:23:28,000 --> 01:23:31,439
Speaker 4: It's been very carefully scripted. In fact, they made the

1612
01:23:31,479 --> 01:23:34,559
Speaker 4: decision to move on to Todd munkin this season as

1613
01:23:34,560 --> 01:23:38,280
Speaker 4: their offensive coordinator, teaven continue to improve upon that. And

1614
01:23:38,280 --> 01:23:42,320
Speaker 4: then you look at Patrick Mahomes and for completely different reasons,

1615
01:23:43,120 --> 01:23:45,519
Speaker 4: it really sort of feels like he's just found a

1616
01:23:45,520 --> 01:23:49,240
Speaker 4: way to do more with less than any season he's

1617
01:23:49,280 --> 01:23:52,240
Speaker 4: ever had in the NFL. And here he is a

1618
01:23:52,280 --> 01:23:54,840
Speaker 4: game away from the Super Bowl. So I completely agree

1619
01:23:54,880 --> 01:23:55,599
Speaker 4: with that assessment.

1620
01:23:55,680 --> 01:23:58,000
Speaker 2: You know, there's a couple of quarterbacks that when I'm

1621
01:23:58,040 --> 01:24:01,080
Speaker 2: watching Lamar Jackson that had already you know, had their

1622
01:24:01,200 --> 01:24:04,760
Speaker 2: MVP seasons but kept waiting, waiting, waiting for that run

1623
01:24:04,800 --> 01:24:05,759
Speaker 2: to the Super Bowl.

1624
01:24:06,439 --> 01:24:07,639
Speaker 3: The first one was Steve Young.

1625
01:24:08,200 --> 01:24:10,280
Speaker 2: You know, Steve Young had taken over as the quarterback

1626
01:24:10,800 --> 01:24:12,880
Speaker 2: for the forty nine ers and lost back to back

1627
01:24:13,000 --> 01:24:17,160
Speaker 2: NFC Championship games to the Cowboys before finally winning that

1628
01:24:17,280 --> 01:24:18,360
Speaker 2: championship game.

1629
01:24:18,960 --> 01:24:22,640
Speaker 3: And think about Peyton Manning. Yeah, you know, Peyton Manning.

1630
01:24:22,360 --> 01:24:25,599
Speaker 2: Had a number of runs in the postseason before he

1631
01:24:25,680 --> 01:24:28,040
Speaker 2: finally got to the Super Bowl, and of course they

1632
01:24:28,080 --> 01:24:31,960
Speaker 2: won that Super Bowl against the Bears. People remember about

1633
01:24:31,960 --> 01:24:34,960
Speaker 2: that run for Peyton Manny's first Super Bowl run is

1634
01:24:34,960 --> 01:24:38,880
Speaker 2: that he didn't play particularly dominantly in the postseason like

1635
01:24:40,040 --> 01:24:42,640
Speaker 2: he wasn't the sole reason the Colts got to the

1636
01:24:42,800 --> 01:24:45,600
Speaker 2: Super Bowl. And that's what I keep talking about in

1637
01:24:45,680 --> 01:24:48,439
Speaker 2: terms of Lamar Jackson and already on third and seven,

1638
01:24:49,080 --> 01:24:52,439
Speaker 2: incomplete pass and so on the opening drive of the game,

1639
01:24:52,880 --> 01:24:56,160
Speaker 2: three and out for the Ravens. Not exactly the way

1640
01:24:56,200 --> 01:24:58,040
Speaker 2: you want to start. And by the way, they just

1641
01:24:58,080 --> 01:25:01,400
Speaker 2: posted a stat here where in the regular season Lamar

1642
01:25:01,520 --> 01:25:05,880
Speaker 2: Jackson at home almost a seven forty winning percentage, but

1643
01:25:05,960 --> 01:25:08,280
Speaker 2: in the playoffs one and two at home.

1644
01:25:08,800 --> 01:25:13,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, when I think of this game, you know, the

1645
01:25:13,160 --> 01:25:17,240
Speaker 4: Chiefs and the Ravens matchup, I really think as important

1646
01:25:17,240 --> 01:25:20,040
Speaker 4: as you describe both quarterbacks being in this matchup, I

1647
01:25:20,080 --> 01:25:22,640
Speaker 4: really do think it comes down to Lamar Jackson. And

1648
01:25:22,680 --> 01:25:26,000
Speaker 4: I'm curious your thoughts too, Steve, Like I just I

1649
01:25:26,040 --> 01:25:29,320
Speaker 4: think that Lamar is great, and he's proven himself to

1650
01:25:29,360 --> 01:25:31,320
Speaker 4: be great in the regular season. He's well on his

1651
01:25:31,360 --> 01:25:34,920
Speaker 4: way to earning his second NFL MVP, and this is

1652
01:25:34,960 --> 01:25:38,040
Speaker 4: a very short career so far. I mean, he's done

1653
01:25:38,479 --> 01:25:41,800
Speaker 4: what very few human beings on the planet have done

1654
01:25:42,439 --> 01:25:46,719
Speaker 4: in a handful plus of years with this franchise. However,

1655
01:25:47,600 --> 01:25:50,439
Speaker 4: he's gone out in the postseason and even after winning

1656
01:25:50,479 --> 01:25:53,440
Speaker 4: a game in advancing He's had stinkers.

1657
01:25:53,920 --> 01:25:54,840
Speaker 1: He's had stinkers.

1658
01:25:54,920 --> 01:25:58,000
Speaker 4: You know he's got He's got two playoff wins, including

1659
01:25:58,080 --> 01:26:01,000
Speaker 4: this pass game that they just played against the Houston Texans.

1660
01:26:01,720 --> 01:26:04,920
Speaker 4: The game after his first playoff win. He was the

1661
01:26:04,960 --> 01:26:10,280
Speaker 4: reason the Ravens loss. He struggled, he was inaccurate, he fumbled.

1662
01:26:11,600 --> 01:26:14,080
Speaker 4: You look at this game and you say, okay, well,

1663
01:26:14,680 --> 01:26:17,840
Speaker 4: this Chiefs defense. You know, it may not compare to

1664
01:26:17,880 --> 01:26:20,280
Speaker 4: some of the defenses he's faced in the past, but

1665
01:26:20,320 --> 01:26:23,720
Speaker 4: I don't necessarily think that's the most important factor here

1666
01:26:23,760 --> 01:26:27,560
Speaker 4: because we've seen Lamar Jackson have success against great defenses.

1667
01:26:27,600 --> 01:26:29,680
Speaker 4: I think the most important thing is him keeping his

1668
01:26:29,760 --> 01:26:33,880
Speaker 4: composure in the moments that matter the most. And we're

1669
01:26:33,880 --> 01:26:36,919
Speaker 4: going to see if he there has been personal growth

1670
01:26:37,479 --> 01:26:41,000
Speaker 4: from that ability to handle the moment for Lamar Jackson,

1671
01:26:41,040 --> 01:26:43,720
Speaker 4: because I think he's plenty capable. It's just a matter

1672
01:26:43,840 --> 01:26:46,280
Speaker 4: if he can keep his composure in the big moments.

1673
01:26:46,320 --> 01:26:49,040
Speaker 3: Well, again, this Ravens defense. Watching them.

1674
01:26:49,080 --> 01:26:51,160
Speaker 2: By the way, the Chiefs got the first first down

1675
01:26:51,200 --> 01:26:53,200
Speaker 2: of the game, so they're off to a good start here.

1676
01:26:53,760 --> 01:26:55,760
Speaker 2: This is a Ravens defense that led the league in

1677
01:26:55,800 --> 01:26:58,479
Speaker 2: everything defensively, right. I mean they were number one in

1678
01:26:58,520 --> 01:27:03,120
Speaker 2: total defense, number one scoring defense, so they got up

1679
01:27:03,160 --> 01:27:06,479
Speaker 2: obviously played at that level. Interesting about the Chiefs in

1680
01:27:06,560 --> 01:27:10,320
Speaker 2: the postseason in their two wins is the fact that

1681
01:27:10,320 --> 01:27:12,679
Speaker 2: they've been able to run the ball a lot more

1682
01:27:12,680 --> 01:27:15,760
Speaker 2: effectively than they did in the regular season. Can they

1683
01:27:15,800 --> 01:27:17,840
Speaker 2: do that today against the Ravens? Which would be an

1684
01:27:17,840 --> 01:27:21,400
Speaker 2: added bonus. But right now, another first down for the Chiefs.

1685
01:27:21,400 --> 01:27:24,640
Speaker 2: So this opening drive after the Ravens go three and out,

1686
01:27:25,080 --> 01:27:26,639
Speaker 2: you and I are on that Chiefs bandwagon.

1687
01:27:26,720 --> 01:27:28,360
Speaker 3: Looking good on this opening drive.

1688
01:27:28,479 --> 01:27:29,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure.

1689
01:27:29,320 --> 01:27:31,439
Speaker 4: And you see how they're doing it. It's the short

1690
01:27:31,479 --> 01:27:34,080
Speaker 4: passing game. It's getting the ball out to the sideline,

1691
01:27:34,120 --> 01:27:36,560
Speaker 4: staying away from the middle of the field against this

1692
01:27:36,680 --> 01:27:41,080
Speaker 4: Baltimore Ravens defense where you're going to get mashed up.

1693
01:27:41,200 --> 01:27:43,479
Speaker 4: I mean this is a physical group. This is a

1694
01:27:43,479 --> 01:27:46,479
Speaker 4: physical group. The Baltimore Ravens are built around beating you

1695
01:27:46,560 --> 01:27:49,799
Speaker 4: down physically. So I think it's a great plan. Wow,

1696
01:27:50,040 --> 01:27:52,240
Speaker 4: high percentage throws out to the sideline, Get the ball

1697
01:27:52,280 --> 01:27:55,040
Speaker 4: into your playmakers' hands, make some damage. Get these guys

1698
01:27:55,120 --> 01:27:56,520
Speaker 4: running sideline the sideline.

1699
01:27:56,600 --> 01:27:59,519
Speaker 2: Interesting run the poteco right there up the middle. Look

1700
01:27:59,680 --> 01:28:02,519
Speaker 2: like nothing in the middle. I'm watching a replay at

1701
01:28:02,520 --> 01:28:05,559
Speaker 2: this run. It looked like he just hit the line

1702
01:28:05,680 --> 01:28:09,800
Speaker 2: and they just stone nothing, and somehow he slipped through

1703
01:28:09,840 --> 01:28:10,960
Speaker 2: and got a first down.

1704
01:28:11,200 --> 01:28:14,280
Speaker 1: Well, you see what the Ravens are doing against that formation.

1705
01:28:14,520 --> 01:28:17,080
Speaker 4: They got two tight ends right, and then they have

1706
01:28:17,439 --> 01:28:20,519
Speaker 4: Kelsey in motion and he was getting a block on

1707
01:28:20,560 --> 01:28:22,559
Speaker 4: the edge. Or actually that wasn't Kelsey, that was one

1708
01:28:22,600 --> 01:28:25,760
Speaker 4: of their backup tight ends. But three tight ends on

1709
01:28:25,800 --> 01:28:30,040
Speaker 4: the field. So you have the Ravens in big base defense,

1710
01:28:30,360 --> 01:28:32,559
Speaker 4: and so they committed everyone to line of scrimmage and

1711
01:28:32,600 --> 01:28:35,200
Speaker 4: when that happens and everybody gets blocked up. So great

1712
01:28:35,280 --> 01:28:37,639
Speaker 4: job by the tight ends in the offensive line, there's

1713
01:28:37,680 --> 01:28:39,320
Speaker 4: going to be a gap and a safety has to

1714
01:28:39,320 --> 01:28:41,120
Speaker 4: make a play, and Pacheco was able to get the

1715
01:28:41,200 --> 01:28:42,920
Speaker 4: yardage needed for another first down.

1716
01:28:42,960 --> 01:28:46,120
Speaker 2: All right, So the Chiefs now are in Baltimore territory.

1717
01:28:46,160 --> 01:28:50,519
Speaker 2: They have pass midfield on this opening drive. We'll be

1718
01:28:50,600 --> 01:28:53,160
Speaker 2: interesting on the other side to see if Lamar Jackson

1719
01:28:53,200 --> 01:28:56,280
Speaker 2: can get something going with the passing game. Mark Andrews

1720
01:28:56,360 --> 01:28:58,439
Speaker 2: is in uniform. That's certainly going to be a huge

1721
01:28:58,439 --> 01:29:01,360
Speaker 2: help to him. He needs the help. But you know

1722
01:29:01,439 --> 01:29:03,960
Speaker 2: last week The numbers were perfect as far as Lamar

1723
01:29:04,040 --> 01:29:05,960
Speaker 2: Jackson is concerned. He had one hundred and fifty two

1724
01:29:06,000 --> 01:29:09,000
Speaker 2: yards passing, but he had one hundred yards rushing, two

1725
01:29:09,040 --> 01:29:13,800
Speaker 2: touchdown passes, two rushing touchdowns. Again anywhere near that kind

1726
01:29:13,840 --> 01:29:16,040
Speaker 2: of level. And believe me, the Ravens will win this

1727
01:29:16,120 --> 01:29:19,880
Speaker 2: game today. But this is a perfect opening drives so

1728
01:29:20,040 --> 01:29:21,080
Speaker 2: far for the Chiefs.

1729
01:29:21,640 --> 01:29:24,880
Speaker 4: They are setting up a third and three out by

1730
01:29:24,960 --> 01:29:26,000
Speaker 4: the Baltimore Ravens.

1731
01:29:26,000 --> 01:29:28,240
Speaker 3: Now, do you run here? Do you run here? You pass?

1732
01:29:28,280 --> 01:29:29,920
Speaker 3: What are you doing here on third and three? I

1733
01:29:30,360 --> 01:29:32,080
Speaker 3: like running the ball pretty well right now.

1734
01:29:32,200 --> 01:29:34,920
Speaker 4: I agree Pacheco is off to a hot start, but

1735
01:29:35,000 --> 01:29:36,800
Speaker 4: I would get the ball out to the sideline and

1736
01:29:36,840 --> 01:29:39,479
Speaker 4: attack the edges of this Ravens defense here.

1737
01:29:39,560 --> 01:29:42,839
Speaker 2: All right, Something that Mahomes is seeing in the Ravens defense,

1738
01:29:42,880 --> 01:29:46,400
Speaker 2: he's calling an audible right now, and they are handing

1739
01:29:46,400 --> 01:29:49,880
Speaker 2: the ball off and that's going nowhere. So that one

1740
01:29:50,120 --> 01:29:54,360
Speaker 2: absolutely nowhere, And I do not believe that the Chiefs

1741
01:29:54,400 --> 01:29:57,080
Speaker 2: are going to go for it here on fourth and two.

1742
01:29:57,520 --> 01:30:00,200
Speaker 2: That doesn't seem like to play. So he saw some

1743
01:30:00,280 --> 01:30:02,799
Speaker 2: of the defense, but that run went nowhere.

1744
01:30:02,920 --> 01:30:06,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, So what happened was, yeah, they they switched to

1745
01:30:06,800 --> 01:30:10,600
Speaker 4: a run play because the Ravens were lined up in

1746
01:30:10,720 --> 01:30:14,240
Speaker 4: something that the Chiefs wanted to get away from in

1747
01:30:14,320 --> 01:30:16,200
Speaker 4: terms of whatever play was the first.

1748
01:30:16,000 --> 01:30:18,120
Speaker 3: One, hold on, hold on, they're going to go for it.

1749
01:30:18,240 --> 01:30:21,040
Speaker 1: Here we go fourth and two. That's a long two.

1750
01:30:21,360 --> 01:30:22,479
Speaker 3: That is a long two.

1751
01:30:22,640 --> 01:30:24,880
Speaker 2: And they are at the forty two yard line of

1752
01:30:24,920 --> 01:30:28,320
Speaker 2: the Ravens and Mahome's going to roll out throw the ball.

1753
01:30:28,320 --> 01:30:30,240
Speaker 3: Oh, great catch by Kelsey.

1754
01:30:32,280 --> 01:30:35,840
Speaker 2: He saved him on that one was high and it

1755
01:30:36,040 --> 01:30:40,919
Speaker 2: was hot throw. That was hot and high, and Kelsey

1756
01:30:41,000 --> 01:30:43,160
Speaker 2: needed to extend and he got the ball and the

1757
01:30:43,200 --> 01:30:43,840
Speaker 2: first down.

1758
01:30:44,160 --> 01:30:47,840
Speaker 4: However, will the Chiefs. That's the reason why Kelsey and

1759
01:30:47,960 --> 01:30:51,240
Speaker 4: any great pass catching tight end is such an unfortunate

1760
01:30:51,280 --> 01:30:53,360
Speaker 4: matchup for any defense because look.

1761
01:30:53,240 --> 01:30:56,479
Speaker 2: Where that ball went. That it had to be thrown hot,

1762
01:30:56,640 --> 01:30:58,840
Speaker 2: and there's no one else but it was a hot throw.

1763
01:30:59,439 --> 01:31:00,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was coming it hot it.

1764
01:31:01,040 --> 01:31:02,360
Speaker 3: I got there quickly, all right.

1765
01:31:02,400 --> 01:31:03,320
Speaker 1: So you had to get.

1766
01:31:03,160 --> 01:31:04,880
Speaker 4: That ball to him fast and he had to get

1767
01:31:04,960 --> 01:31:07,960
Speaker 4: him away from his defensive back who was trailing him.

1768
01:31:08,000 --> 01:31:09,280
Speaker 4: That was a great throw, all right.

1769
01:31:09,320 --> 01:31:12,280
Speaker 2: So down to the twenty eight yard line and another run,

1770
01:31:12,400 --> 01:31:14,720
Speaker 2: picking up four five yards but check go off to

1771
01:31:14,760 --> 01:31:15,400
Speaker 2: a good start.

1772
01:31:15,479 --> 01:31:17,280
Speaker 3: Oh we're just getting started here.

1773
01:31:17,479 --> 01:31:22,000
Speaker 2: Whoo Okay, okay, opening drives for the Kansas City Chiefs

1774
01:31:22,000 --> 01:31:24,439
Speaker 2: after the Ravens go three and a half. For all

1775
01:31:24,520 --> 01:31:27,880
Speaker 2: that's happening in this AFC Championship game, keep it right here,

1776
01:31:27,880 --> 01:31:29,519
Speaker 2: this is Fox Sports Red Zone Radio.

1777
01:31:29,920 --> 01:31:32,560
Speaker 3: Mahomes to throw against a four man rush, fires.

1778
01:31:32,280 --> 01:31:34,240
Speaker 1: It in your side, the Kelty comes back.

1779
01:31:34,120 --> 01:31:38,799
Speaker 11: To the ball that holds it in touchdown, Chanzon City.

1780
01:31:39,240 --> 01:31:43,200
Speaker 11: Patrick Mahomes absolutely took duct tape and just wrapped the

1781
01:31:43,240 --> 01:31:46,599
Speaker 11: ball around the waist of Travis Kelcey for a nineteen

1782
01:31:46,680 --> 01:31:47,560
Speaker 11: yard touchdown.

1783
01:31:48,360 --> 01:31:50,519
Speaker 2: That's one oh six five the Wolf and the Chiefs

1784
01:31:50,600 --> 01:31:52,400
Speaker 2: Radio network opening drive.

1785
01:31:52,560 --> 01:31:54,000
Speaker 3: Perfection for the Chiefs.

1786
01:31:54,080 --> 01:31:57,560
Speaker 2: Any with that nineteen yard touchdown pass Patrick Mahomes to

1787
01:31:57,640 --> 01:32:01,400
Speaker 2: Travis Kelcey, this is Fox Sports Red Zone. We're broadcasting

1788
01:32:01,439 --> 01:32:04,000
Speaker 2: live from the tire Rack dot Com studio. So on

1789
01:32:04,040 --> 01:32:07,360
Speaker 2: that opening drive, Rich Mahomes five for five fifty seven

1790
01:32:07,439 --> 01:32:11,280
Speaker 2: yards and that touchdown pass and but Checko four carries

1791
01:32:11,320 --> 01:32:15,559
Speaker 2: twenty three yards. That's six yards a carry. So they

1792
01:32:15,560 --> 01:32:18,680
Speaker 2: did everything right on their opening drive to take the

1793
01:32:18,720 --> 01:32:20,400
Speaker 2: early seven to nothing lead.

1794
01:32:20,640 --> 01:32:24,639
Speaker 4: Yeah, perfectly balanced five runs five passes, all complete Captain

1795
01:32:24,840 --> 01:32:29,639
Speaker 4: by finding your favorite passing target against the best pass

1796
01:32:29,720 --> 01:32:33,920
Speaker 4: defender the Ravens have to provide in Hamilton. That's a

1797
01:32:33,960 --> 01:32:36,240
Speaker 4: one on one matchup that we knew we would see

1798
01:32:36,280 --> 01:32:39,519
Speaker 4: during this game. Hamilton hadn't had a tight end score

1799
01:32:39,520 --> 01:32:42,680
Speaker 4: on him yet this season. And the Chiefs find a

1800
01:32:42,720 --> 01:32:46,360
Speaker 4: way on their opening drive to pretty much be perfect,

1801
01:32:46,479 --> 01:32:50,280
Speaker 4: zero negative plays on the drive, and they ran the ball.

1802
01:32:50,320 --> 01:32:52,839
Speaker 4: There was a commitment to sticking the ball up between

1803
01:32:52,880 --> 01:32:56,360
Speaker 4: the tackles and they had effectiveness there too. But here

1804
01:32:56,800 --> 01:33:00,920
Speaker 4: come the Ravens Kamara Jackson with a big run and

1805
01:33:01,200 --> 01:33:04,120
Speaker 4: a needed first down on the Chiefs side of the field.

1806
01:33:04,240 --> 01:33:06,960
Speaker 2: All right, So here on this next drive for the Ravens,

1807
01:33:07,000 --> 01:33:09,639
Speaker 2: they had a fourth and one at their own thirty

1808
01:33:09,840 --> 01:33:13,680
Speaker 2: four yard line and they went for it. Think about this,

1809
01:33:13,760 --> 01:33:16,120
Speaker 2: You're down seven out the other Chiefs. Fourth and one

1810
01:33:16,160 --> 01:33:19,439
Speaker 2: at your own thirty four yard line, they go for it.

1811
01:33:19,560 --> 01:33:22,600
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson on the keeper finds a hole and he

1812
01:33:22,680 --> 01:33:27,240
Speaker 2: runs for twenty one yards. Wow, I mean you talk

1813
01:33:27,280 --> 01:33:30,680
Speaker 2: about a ballsy move now. John Harbaugh is one of

1814
01:33:30,720 --> 01:33:33,080
Speaker 2: those guys that's a big believer on going for it

1815
01:33:33,160 --> 01:33:36,759
Speaker 2: on fourth down. But you talk about rolling the dice, wow,

1816
01:33:37,000 --> 01:33:39,439
Speaker 2: from your own thirty Because my feeling is you go

1817
01:33:39,520 --> 01:33:43,240
Speaker 2: down two scores of the Chiefs, it's over. I don't

1818
01:33:43,280 --> 01:33:46,360
Speaker 2: see how the Ravens could overcome that. But they go

1819
01:33:46,520 --> 01:33:48,679
Speaker 2: for it on fourth and one from their own thirty

1820
01:33:48,720 --> 01:33:51,760
Speaker 2: four yard line. Lamar Jackson was a keeper all the way,

1821
01:33:51,920 --> 01:33:54,880
Speaker 2: just found a little sliver, boom, pops through, goes for

1822
01:33:54,960 --> 01:33:57,920
Speaker 2: twenty one yards and now the Ravens just called a

1823
01:33:58,000 --> 01:34:03,720
Speaker 2: time out so they realize how important this drive is.

1824
01:34:03,760 --> 01:34:07,559
Speaker 2: They got to get something going because the Chiefs, I mean,

1825
01:34:07,600 --> 01:34:12,080
Speaker 2: it was shocking how dominant they were in that opening

1826
01:34:12,160 --> 01:34:14,679
Speaker 2: drive against the number one ranked defense in the NFL.

1827
01:34:15,040 --> 01:34:16,280
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1828
01:34:16,320 --> 01:34:21,800
Speaker 4: Look, John Harbaugh has some onions, man, because I'll tell

1829
01:34:21,800 --> 01:34:25,280
Speaker 4: you right now, if you miss this fourth and one

1830
01:34:25,400 --> 01:34:28,400
Speaker 4: conversion and you turn the ball over to the Chiefs,

1831
01:34:28,880 --> 01:34:33,519
Speaker 4: you're guaranteeing them three points, but you're also most likely

1832
01:34:33,560 --> 01:34:37,280
Speaker 4: giving up a touchdown just based on percentages. If you

1833
01:34:37,360 --> 01:34:40,439
Speaker 4: go down to the Chiefs fourteen to nothing, I mean,

1834
01:34:40,760 --> 01:34:43,479
Speaker 4: I just don't say there's no catching them. No, And

1835
01:34:43,720 --> 01:34:46,400
Speaker 4: you're talking about a game being decided what within the

1836
01:34:46,439 --> 01:34:50,519
Speaker 4: first six minutes of play, I mean that is boy,

1837
01:34:50,560 --> 01:34:55,720
Speaker 4: oh boy, John Harbaugh man he needs a wheelbarrow to

1838
01:34:55,760 --> 01:34:58,400
Speaker 4: walk out of the stadium today, win or lose because

1839
01:34:58,560 --> 01:34:59,840
Speaker 4: he's got some onions on him.

1840
01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:02,280
Speaker 2: Well, Lamar Jackson needed that right He was one for

1841
01:35:02,360 --> 01:35:05,120
Speaker 2: three passing one nine yard pass, a couple of runs

1842
01:35:05,120 --> 01:35:07,800
Speaker 2: have done nothing. He needs that play. I mean, this

1843
01:35:07,840 --> 01:35:10,160
Speaker 2: is why Lamar Jackson is going to win an MVP

1844
01:35:10,280 --> 01:35:14,880
Speaker 2: award is his ability to be to a multi wayte

1845
01:35:15,240 --> 01:35:17,680
Speaker 2: and he did it right there with that twenty one

1846
01:35:17,760 --> 01:35:20,320
Speaker 2: yard keeper. By the way, right after our show, our

1847
01:35:20,320 --> 01:35:22,720
Speaker 2: podcast is going to be going if you miss any

1848
01:35:22,720 --> 01:35:25,320
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1849
01:35:25,360 --> 01:35:29,280
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1850
01:35:29,280 --> 01:35:31,960
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1851
01:35:32,000 --> 01:35:34,439
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1852
01:35:34,439 --> 01:35:36,639
Speaker 2: this show posted right after we get.

1853
01:35:36,439 --> 01:35:37,120
Speaker 3: Off the air.

1854
01:35:37,240 --> 01:35:41,599
Speaker 2: So again, first down for the Ravens right now, and

1855
01:35:41,720 --> 01:35:45,479
Speaker 2: this is a critical drive for the Ravens to answer

1856
01:35:45,560 --> 01:35:48,840
Speaker 2: back as their defensive staff tries to put their heads

1857
01:35:48,880 --> 01:35:51,640
Speaker 2: together to try to figure out what went wrong in

1858
01:35:51,640 --> 01:35:53,280
Speaker 2: that opening drive against the Chiefs.

1859
01:35:53,520 --> 01:35:57,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the other thing is how talented and vicious

1860
01:35:57,560 --> 01:36:01,320
Speaker 4: this Baltimore Ravens defense has been especially star games. I

1861
01:36:01,360 --> 01:36:04,280
Speaker 4: think that was only the second time in the entire

1862
01:36:04,360 --> 01:36:08,439
Speaker 4: season postseason included for the Ravens that they've given up

1863
01:36:08,520 --> 01:36:12,000
Speaker 4: a first drive touchdown and whoa, this Ravens run game

1864
01:36:12,080 --> 01:36:13,120
Speaker 4: is doing exactly.

1865
01:36:14,520 --> 01:36:17,960
Speaker 2: They're thirty fifteen yards on that so all of a sudden,

1866
01:36:18,080 --> 01:36:22,040
Speaker 2: back to back big runs by Jackson and Edwards and

1867
01:36:22,080 --> 01:36:24,599
Speaker 2: now they have moved all the way to the Kansas

1868
01:36:24,640 --> 01:36:25,799
Speaker 2: City thirty yard line.

1869
01:36:26,080 --> 01:36:28,639
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, But getting back to what I was saying,

1870
01:36:28,680 --> 01:36:31,600
Speaker 4: the Ravens are on the sideline. They're they're trying to

1871
01:36:31,600 --> 01:36:34,679
Speaker 4: figure that out, because, let's face it, if they remain

1872
01:36:34,760 --> 01:36:39,360
Speaker 4: that balanced the entire game, the Chiefs do. And Kelsey,

1873
01:36:40,400 --> 01:36:42,960
Speaker 4: who did whatever he wanted on that drive, he was

1874
01:36:43,000 --> 01:36:46,519
Speaker 4: targeted twice for over thirty yards, You're gonna have a long,

1875
01:36:46,560 --> 01:36:52,439
Speaker 4: hard day. And Lamar Jackson is just a magician into

1876
01:36:52,520 --> 01:36:53,120
Speaker 4: the hocket.

1877
01:36:53,360 --> 01:36:54,240
Speaker 3: What are you playing?

1878
01:36:54,360 --> 01:36:57,679
Speaker 2: Flowers on the receiving end of that touchdown right there?

1879
01:36:57,960 --> 01:36:58,160
Speaker 4: Yep?

1880
01:36:58,520 --> 01:37:00,440
Speaker 3: He scramble play.

1881
01:37:00,000 --> 01:37:04,759
Speaker 2: Hey, Lamar Jackson trying to avoid the rush, somehow found

1882
01:37:04,800 --> 01:37:09,320
Speaker 2: the moment and throws a thirty yard touchdown strike to say, Flowers,

1883
01:37:09,400 --> 01:37:11,080
Speaker 2: what a play by the MVP.

1884
01:37:11,560 --> 01:37:16,560
Speaker 4: Yep? That's the reason why we said the most consequential

1885
01:37:16,600 --> 01:37:19,560
Speaker 4: player on the field in any of these games is

1886
01:37:19,640 --> 01:37:23,719
Speaker 4: Lamar Jackson, because good game Lamar Jackson does these things,

1887
01:37:23,880 --> 01:37:25,960
Speaker 4: and frankly, I don't think there's a quarterback in the

1888
01:37:26,040 --> 01:37:28,160
Speaker 4: league who can do those type of things outside of

1889
01:37:28,200 --> 01:37:32,640
Speaker 4: maybe Josh Allen. Bad game, Lamar Jackson can ruin your

1890
01:37:32,760 --> 01:37:36,639
Speaker 4: chances for success if he doesn't make those sort of plays.

1891
01:37:37,360 --> 01:37:40,679
Speaker 4: That was an incredible play that you're really only gonna

1892
01:37:40,680 --> 01:37:43,040
Speaker 4: see Baltimore be able to make this postseason.

1893
01:37:43,200 --> 01:37:45,439
Speaker 3: Wow. Okay, this is a game.

1894
01:37:46,479 --> 01:37:51,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I need what a start to this AFC Championship game.

1895
01:37:51,160 --> 01:37:54,439
Speaker 2: Seven to seven, just to tick under five minutes ago

1896
01:37:54,560 --> 01:37:57,040
Speaker 2: in the first quarter. But if this is an indication

1897
01:37:57,120 --> 01:38:00,320
Speaker 2: of what's to come in this game, buckle up, man.

1898
01:38:00,360 --> 01:38:03,080
Speaker 2: This is going to be a shootout. So they needed

1899
01:38:03,360 --> 01:38:05,920
Speaker 2: a spark. I mean, think about it. You got fourth

1900
01:38:05,960 --> 01:38:08,599
Speaker 2: and one at your own thirty four yard line. Almost

1901
01:38:08,680 --> 01:38:11,720
Speaker 2: any coach, especially as easily as the Chiefs scored on

1902
01:38:11,760 --> 01:38:13,760
Speaker 2: their opening drive, would just say, all right, we got

1903
01:38:13,760 --> 01:38:17,559
Speaker 2: a punt, and they go for it. And in the

1904
01:38:17,720 --> 01:38:20,960
Speaker 2: three plays after you get a twenty one yard run,

1905
01:38:21,080 --> 01:38:24,160
Speaker 2: a fifteen yard run, and a thirty yard.

1906
01:38:23,960 --> 01:38:25,920
Speaker 3: Touchdown pass in the next three plays.

1907
01:38:27,120 --> 01:38:32,080
Speaker 2: I mean, just that one decision by John Harbaugh to

1908
01:38:32,200 --> 01:38:36,040
Speaker 2: go for it has changed the whole dynamic of this game.

1909
01:38:36,160 --> 01:38:39,320
Speaker 4: I mean, you're one hundred percent right when we go

1910
01:38:39,439 --> 01:38:41,360
Speaker 4: back and we look at this game, and I'm sure

1911
01:38:41,360 --> 01:38:45,160
Speaker 4: there'll be more big plays, but there are going to

1912
01:38:45,200 --> 01:38:48,360
Speaker 4: be moments where you start counting them up. There's usually

1913
01:38:48,400 --> 01:38:50,679
Speaker 4: about four or five of them a game where you say,

1914
01:38:50,920 --> 01:38:54,520
Speaker 4: and the game hinged on that moment and the Ravens

1915
01:38:54,880 --> 01:38:57,439
Speaker 4: they were successful and at very least one of those

1916
01:38:57,479 --> 01:39:00,800
Speaker 4: moments that was an incredible drive to bounce back from

1917
01:39:00,800 --> 01:39:04,080
Speaker 4: trailing by seven at home in an AFC championship game

1918
01:39:04,120 --> 01:39:06,920
Speaker 4: after giving the ball up on your first drive. That

1919
01:39:07,120 --> 01:39:08,280
Speaker 4: was unbelievable.

1920
01:39:08,320 --> 01:39:10,639
Speaker 2: All right, total yards in this game, casey eighty one

1921
01:39:10,760 --> 01:39:13,600
Speaker 2: Baltimore seventy eight. It is going to be one of

1922
01:39:13,640 --> 01:39:15,960
Speaker 2: those games. Will be interesting now with the Chiefs getting

1923
01:39:15,960 --> 01:39:21,080
Speaker 2: the ball back, because it always seems like when we

1924
01:39:21,240 --> 01:39:24,920
Speaker 2: see Patrick Mahomes in a shootout game and Josh Allen

1925
01:39:24,960 --> 01:39:27,519
Speaker 2: and him have had a few of those, he loves it,

1926
01:39:27,600 --> 01:39:30,960
Speaker 2: like you know, that's that's his that's his thing, unless,

1927
01:39:30,960 --> 01:39:34,040
Speaker 2: of course it's Joe Burrow for some reason, that's his kryptonite.

1928
01:39:34,080 --> 01:39:37,280
Speaker 3: I don't know about Joe Burrow, but anyone else, hey,

1929
01:39:37,600 --> 01:39:38,040
Speaker 3: bring it on.

1930
01:39:38,200 --> 01:39:41,000
Speaker 2: But this, this is so important for Lamar Jackson to

1931
01:39:41,080 --> 01:39:45,040
Speaker 2: have this happen and really showing why he's such a

1932
01:39:45,040 --> 01:39:48,880
Speaker 2: special quarterback. And it was on full display on this drive. Yeah,

1933
01:39:48,920 --> 01:39:51,800
Speaker 2: that was a full display. First the run and then

1934
01:39:51,880 --> 01:39:54,599
Speaker 2: the scramb I mean he is getting sacked, I mean

1935
01:39:54,640 --> 01:39:54,960
Speaker 2: he is.

1936
01:39:55,520 --> 01:39:57,840
Speaker 3: You got the hand on to pull him down.

1937
01:39:57,880 --> 01:40:01,719
Speaker 2: He gets out of it and then sees flowers open

1938
01:40:01,760 --> 01:40:03,200
Speaker 2: and just hit him with a stripe perfect.

1939
01:40:03,200 --> 01:40:06,120
Speaker 4: I mean, it's just it's just sensational what we just witnessed.

1940
01:40:06,160 --> 01:40:12,040
Speaker 4: I love, I mean love Lamar Jackson's athleticism and his

1941
01:40:12,120 --> 01:40:14,760
Speaker 4: ability to keep his eyes down the field. Like that's

1942
01:40:14,800 --> 01:40:18,639
Speaker 4: the most important development in his game, is the fact

1943
01:40:18,640 --> 01:40:23,080
Speaker 4: that Lamar Jackson isn't a run first quarterback any longer.

1944
01:40:23,439 --> 01:40:25,240
Speaker 4: He's the type of guy who's going to train his

1945
01:40:25,320 --> 01:40:27,679
Speaker 4: eyes down the field. He's gonna find the open man

1946
01:40:27,920 --> 01:40:30,680
Speaker 4: when he's scrambling, he's looking to give the ball to

1947
01:40:30,720 --> 01:40:33,840
Speaker 4: a playmaker who can get all those yards that you know,

1948
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Speaker 4: sometimes he can get you on it on his feet,

1949
01:40:36,360 --> 01:40:38,400
Speaker 4: but it's a lot safer for the team if he

1950
01:40:38,520 --> 01:40:40,840
Speaker 4: throws it to one of his capable receivers. He did

1951
01:40:40,880 --> 01:40:43,559
Speaker 4: right there to Zay Flowers, who is a breakout star

1952
01:40:43,640 --> 01:40:46,799
Speaker 4: this season for the Baltimore Ravens. And that is how

1953
01:40:46,960 --> 01:40:48,519
Speaker 4: you tie a football game.

1954
01:40:48,560 --> 01:40:51,920
Speaker 2: All right, Tucker's kickoff is in the end zone. Touchbacks.

1955
01:40:52,200 --> 01:40:55,320
Speaker 2: See what the Chiefs haveing starved for us. But first

1956
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Speaker 2: let's find out what is trending right now.

1957
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Speaker 3: I'm gonna go doing them a little bit early. Got

1958
01:41:01,120 --> 01:41:02,920
Speaker 3: a little break in the action right now.

1959
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Speaker 2: By the way, without talking about it, you have turned

1960
01:41:06,479 --> 01:41:09,400
Speaker 2: me on to the greatest website in the history of

1961
01:41:09,439 --> 01:41:13,080
Speaker 2: the nationale Football League. Rich, I'm on a site right

1962
01:41:13,120 --> 01:41:16,160
Speaker 2: now that literally is giving me these plays before they happen.

1963
01:41:16,280 --> 01:41:18,639
Speaker 3: I don't know how they are so bad That head

1964
01:41:18,640 --> 01:41:20,040
Speaker 3: of Good delay on TV.

1965
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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, text it to me, Nick Cope.

1966
01:41:23,040 --> 01:41:24,400
Speaker 3: It is unbelievable.

1967
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Speaker 1: I am.

1968
01:41:25,479 --> 01:41:28,000
Speaker 2: I'm holding back because I know you're watching the game

1969
01:41:28,120 --> 01:41:30,880
Speaker 2: like I am, Rich, and I could literally tell you

1970
01:41:30,960 --> 01:41:32,400
Speaker 2: every play before it happens.

1971
01:41:32,439 --> 01:41:33,840
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, I.

1972
01:41:33,840 --> 01:41:36,840
Speaker 9: Mean it's about like ten to twenty seconds ahead here.

1973
01:41:36,920 --> 01:41:38,760
Speaker 3: I mean, it's so remarkable.

1974
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Speaker 9: Both fourth downs, I watch knowing what would happen, like.

1975
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Speaker 3: I already know what's happening here.

1976
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Speaker 9: Okay, all right, well hey we all love some sound. Right,

1977
01:41:49,000 --> 01:41:50,479
Speaker 9: here's how that touchdown sounded.

1978
01:41:51,000 --> 01:41:53,120
Speaker 3: It's the snap Chiefs rush five.

1979
01:41:53,240 --> 01:41:56,280
Speaker 9: Lamar swings out of a sack, back pedals, He's at

1980
01:41:56,280 --> 01:41:58,120
Speaker 9: the forty five yard line going deep.

1981
01:41:58,360 --> 01:42:03,200
Speaker 2: He's got a man open hot Tom Ravens safe flowers.

1982
01:42:03,360 --> 01:42:06,439
Speaker 7: What a spectacular drab and we are an.

1983
01:42:06,280 --> 01:42:09,760
Speaker 9: Extra point away from a tie game. That's courtesy of

1984
01:42:09,840 --> 01:42:15,479
Speaker 9: ninety eight Rock Ravens Radio Network. And not to discount this, guys,

1985
01:42:15,760 --> 01:42:18,880
Speaker 9: the Willie Gay being out, Leo Chanal was the guy

1986
01:42:18,960 --> 01:42:21,160
Speaker 9: who's playing more because Gay is out. He's the one

1987
01:42:21,200 --> 01:42:24,559
Speaker 9: who missed that sack on Lamar Jackson had him wrapped up.

1988
01:42:24,680 --> 01:42:27,840
Speaker 9: So you're already seeing the effects of Kansas City not

1989
01:42:28,000 --> 01:42:30,519
Speaker 9: having one of their better linebackers. Total numbers so far,

1990
01:42:30,560 --> 01:42:33,680
Speaker 9: Patrick Mahomes is perfecty seven for seven, seventy yards in

1991
01:42:33,720 --> 01:42:36,320
Speaker 9: a score. Pachecko has been effective on the ground five

1992
01:42:36,400 --> 01:42:40,160
Speaker 9: carries twenty one yards, three receptions for Travis Kelcey thirty

1993
01:42:40,160 --> 01:42:42,320
Speaker 9: six yards in a score. On the other side, Lamar

1994
01:42:42,439 --> 01:42:45,720
Speaker 9: Jackson twenty three yards on the ground, and thirty nine

1995
01:42:45,800 --> 01:42:49,960
Speaker 9: yards through the air. Not much passing so far for Baltimore.

1996
01:42:50,000 --> 01:42:52,160
Speaker 9: They have got it done on the ground thirty nine

1997
01:42:52,320 --> 01:42:56,160
Speaker 9: net rushing yards to this point. Got the NFC Championship

1998
01:42:56,160 --> 01:42:59,400
Speaker 9: game coming up six thirty Eastern, the Niners hosting the Lions.

1999
01:42:59,640 --> 01:43:02,679
Speaker 9: As it's andre now, everybody looking healthy for both signs.

2000
01:43:02,840 --> 01:43:05,920
Speaker 9: Elsewhere in the league, NFL Meter reports former Falcons coach

2001
01:43:06,040 --> 01:43:09,799
Speaker 9: Arthur Smith is interviewing for the Steelers offensive coordinator John today.

2002
01:43:10,120 --> 01:43:11,800
Speaker 3: Italian Janick Center won the.

2003
01:43:11,760 --> 01:43:15,440
Speaker 9: Australian Open over to Neil Medvedev and in college basketball

2004
01:43:15,680 --> 01:43:19,799
Speaker 9: wins today for number one Yukon and number two Purdue guys.

2005
01:43:19,800 --> 01:43:21,320
Speaker 9: Back to you, as the Chiefs are a getting the

2006
01:43:21,360 --> 01:43:22,440
Speaker 9: ball back towards.

2007
01:43:22,120 --> 01:43:26,080
Speaker 3: Midfield, Yes they are, with a nice scramble thereby Patrick Mahomes.

2008
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Speaker 3: Thank you, Nick. We'll check it with you a little

2009
01:43:27,840 --> 01:43:28,639
Speaker 3: bit later on.

2010
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Speaker 2: So let's see here the Chiefs now after the eleven

2011
01:43:33,439 --> 01:43:36,519
Speaker 2: yards scrambled by Mahomes or a yard short of a

2012
01:43:36,680 --> 01:43:40,880
Speaker 2: first down. I'm telling you, I mean, we went into

2013
01:43:40,960 --> 01:43:43,320
Speaker 2: this game. These are two of the top defenses in

2014
01:43:43,360 --> 01:43:44,080
Speaker 2: the NFL.

2015
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Speaker 4: YEP.

2016
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Speaker 2: But when you have great quarterbacks, throw those defensive numbers

2017
01:43:50,120 --> 01:43:52,960
Speaker 2: out the window because these quarterbacks can both beat you

2018
01:43:53,040 --> 01:43:55,559
Speaker 2: in so many different ways. All right, big third and

2019
01:43:55,600 --> 01:43:58,800
Speaker 2: one right now for the Chiefs, and they're gonna throw

2020
01:43:58,840 --> 01:44:01,519
Speaker 2: the ball to who else? Travis Kelcey first down.

2021
01:44:01,720 --> 01:44:04,919
Speaker 4: I would do that as well, number eighty seven until

2022
01:44:05,000 --> 01:44:07,800
Speaker 4: they can stop it. That's what this game should look

2023
01:44:07,920 --> 01:44:11,800
Speaker 4: like because he is the most trusted pass catcher and

2024
01:44:11,880 --> 01:44:17,200
Speaker 4: also has the most innate ability and practiced the ability

2025
01:44:17,280 --> 01:44:20,080
Speaker 4: to get upfield and get the yards needed. There are

2026
01:44:20,080 --> 01:44:23,200
Speaker 4: so many times where you throw the football to a

2027
01:44:23,280 --> 01:44:26,639
Speaker 4: guy who maybe he's a little young, little inexperienced, maybe

2028
01:44:26,640 --> 01:44:28,679
Speaker 4: he's a little nervous in a big game and he's

2029
01:44:28,680 --> 01:44:32,160
Speaker 4: trying to create more than he should. What Travis Kelcey

2030
01:44:32,240 --> 01:44:34,760
Speaker 4: does so well as he understands his situation, he's great

2031
01:44:34,800 --> 01:44:35,759
Speaker 4: situational player.

2032
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Speaker 1: Third and one.

2033
01:44:36,880 --> 01:44:39,240
Speaker 4: Just get north south, get the yards you need, protect

2034
01:44:39,280 --> 01:44:41,479
Speaker 4: the football, and that's how you extend drives.

2035
01:44:41,560 --> 01:44:44,000
Speaker 2: This is a Ravens team. They had three players named

2036
01:44:44,000 --> 01:44:45,240
Speaker 2: first team All Pro this year.

2037
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Speaker 4: Yep.

2038
01:44:45,640 --> 01:44:48,439
Speaker 3: Three. That doesn't happen a lot when you look at

2039
01:44:48,479 --> 01:44:50,960
Speaker 3: the All Pro teams every year, and yet they're able

2040
01:44:51,000 --> 01:44:52,400
Speaker 3: to run the ball pretty effectively.

2041
01:44:52,400 --> 01:44:55,360
Speaker 2: But Jecko again a nice four yard run, five yard

2042
01:44:55,439 --> 01:44:56,800
Speaker 2: run here on first down.

2043
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Speaker 3: I mean it changes the whole dynamic, you.

2044
01:44:59,360 --> 01:45:03,519
Speaker 2: Know, second five, and you know you can do a

2045
01:45:03,520 --> 01:45:05,799
Speaker 2: lot of things with that, especially with Patrick Mahomes.

2046
01:45:05,880 --> 01:45:08,479
Speaker 3: I am so hesitant right now because I'm knowing these

2047
01:45:08,520 --> 01:45:11,599
Speaker 3: plays time. Why did you do this to mean?

2048
01:45:11,680 --> 01:45:11,880
Speaker 1: Nick?

2049
01:45:12,000 --> 01:45:16,680
Speaker 2: This is ridiculous. I already I'm staring. It's instantaneous. I

2050
01:45:16,720 --> 01:45:18,439
Speaker 2: know what happens on this play. I'll tell you what.

2051
01:45:18,479 --> 01:45:20,799
Speaker 9: You got to change your tab He had just watched

2052
01:45:20,840 --> 01:45:22,840
Speaker 9: the game. Yeah, and then and then come back to

2053
01:45:22,880 --> 01:45:24,200
Speaker 9: it when you want to flip stats.

2054
01:45:24,200 --> 01:45:26,960
Speaker 3: But I want to know what's it doing for you

2055
01:45:27,040 --> 01:45:30,800
Speaker 3: though it's throwing you off, it's throwing me off right now.

2056
01:45:30,960 --> 01:45:32,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, you gotta watch real time.

2057
01:45:32,960 --> 01:45:33,439
Speaker 4: I know that.

2058
01:45:33,479 --> 01:45:36,040
Speaker 1: By the way, I did actually know the website.

2059
01:45:36,160 --> 01:45:38,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, oh okay, yeah, I texted.

2060
01:45:38,600 --> 01:45:40,000
Speaker 1: Rich thank you. Nick.

2061
01:45:40,120 --> 01:45:40,320
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2062
01:45:40,520 --> 01:45:40,720
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2063
01:45:41,280 --> 01:45:42,840
Speaker 2: It's sort of like the back of the Future, where

2064
01:45:42,840 --> 01:45:45,799
Speaker 2: you know the play before it happens, you know the future.

2065
01:45:46,520 --> 01:45:49,160
Speaker 2: All right, We have a third and four right now

2066
01:45:49,280 --> 01:45:52,200
Speaker 2: for the Chiefs, and again they're down about the forty

2067
01:45:52,320 --> 01:45:55,760
Speaker 2: one yard line of the Ravens. Here as we are

2068
01:45:56,040 --> 01:45:58,519
Speaker 2: inside thirty seconds to go in the first quarter of

2069
01:45:58,560 --> 01:46:04,719
Speaker 2: this AFC Championship game, and once again I predict Mahomes delivers,

2070
01:46:04,760 --> 01:46:08,080
Speaker 2: which he does. Mahomes right now is ten for ten

2071
01:46:08,200 --> 01:46:12,200
Speaker 2: passing for eighty six yards. So then this gets back

2072
01:46:12,200 --> 01:46:13,920
Speaker 2: to what we talked about even before.

2073
01:46:13,680 --> 01:46:16,280
Speaker 3: The game began. You know, Mahomes is going to.

2074
01:46:16,320 --> 01:46:21,000
Speaker 2: Show up, of course, and so does Lamar Jackson feel

2075
01:46:21,000 --> 01:46:25,280
Speaker 2: the pressure of having to outperform Mahomes. Now that incredible

2076
01:46:25,320 --> 01:46:28,840
Speaker 2: scramble play that resulted in the touchdown pass that was

2077
01:46:28,880 --> 01:46:31,880
Speaker 2: his answer to Mahomes on that opening drive. But if

2078
01:46:31,920 --> 01:46:37,120
Speaker 2: Mahomes continues on like this.

2079
01:46:35,280 --> 01:46:36,559
Speaker 3: This does not bode well.

2080
01:46:36,760 --> 01:46:41,040
Speaker 2: I just as great as Lamar Jackson is, he's not

2081
01:46:41,120 --> 01:46:42,680
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes.

2082
01:46:42,800 --> 01:46:44,880
Speaker 1: Right well, and very few players are.

2083
01:46:44,920 --> 01:46:47,800
Speaker 4: In fact, if you ask me, there's no player who's

2084
01:46:47,840 --> 01:46:50,640
Speaker 4: ever played the sport is talented as Patrick Mahomes at

2085
01:46:50,640 --> 01:46:54,200
Speaker 4: the quarterback position. I just think that he is the

2086
01:46:54,240 --> 01:46:57,800
Speaker 4: most complete player we've ever seen at that position, both

2087
01:46:57,840 --> 01:47:01,880
Speaker 4: as a passer and his athletics outside the pocket, whether

2088
01:47:01,920 --> 01:47:04,400
Speaker 4: it's picking up first downs with his legs or extending

2089
01:47:04,439 --> 01:47:08,240
Speaker 4: plays and making off platform throws. You know, we already

2090
01:47:08,240 --> 01:47:11,640
Speaker 4: had that part of the discussion earlier today in this broadcast,

2091
01:47:11,680 --> 01:47:14,880
Speaker 4: I honestly think better than Brady, better than Rogers, better

2092
01:47:14,920 --> 01:47:19,320
Speaker 4: than Montana. He has the most tools that I've ever

2093
01:47:19,400 --> 01:47:23,679
Speaker 4: seen a quarterback possess as a player in this league.

2094
01:47:23,720 --> 01:47:28,000
Speaker 4: It's just insane what he is and if he stays healthy.

2095
01:47:28,560 --> 01:47:31,920
Speaker 4: I mean, all of these championships that Brady won, I'm

2096
01:47:31,920 --> 01:47:33,600
Speaker 4: not saying they're in jeopardy.

2097
01:47:33,360 --> 01:47:34,599
Speaker 1: Not now, not yet.

2098
01:47:34,960 --> 01:47:37,240
Speaker 4: But if there's a player who could potentially get even

2099
01:47:37,360 --> 01:47:41,120
Speaker 4: near that level of prowess, it's a player like Patrick Mahomes,

2100
01:47:41,160 --> 01:47:43,840
Speaker 4: because again, he is the most talented quarterback who's ever

2101
01:47:43,840 --> 01:47:47,000
Speaker 4: played in the NFL in my opinion, And so yeah,

2102
01:47:47,040 --> 01:47:50,800
Speaker 4: the pressure is on Lamar Jackson even though he's hosting

2103
01:47:51,080 --> 01:47:54,760
Speaker 4: the Kansas City Chiefs in Baltimore. Even though you can

2104
01:47:54,920 --> 01:47:58,679
Speaker 4: argue throughout the season the Baltimore offense was more sturdy.

2105
01:47:59,439 --> 01:48:03,120
Speaker 1: It felt like it was built up. The most complete team.

2106
01:48:03,200 --> 01:48:05,680
Speaker 4: I think, as Nick koche put it earlier in this broadcast,

2107
01:48:05,880 --> 01:48:09,360
Speaker 4: there's no doubting that. But that is Patrick f and

2108
01:48:09,479 --> 01:48:12,080
Speaker 4: Mahomes on the other side of the field, and that

2109
01:48:12,240 --> 01:48:16,719
Speaker 4: is a really, really, really high caliber player to compete against.

2110
01:48:16,760 --> 01:48:18,719
Speaker 4: That the most important position on the field.

2111
01:48:18,600 --> 01:48:21,000
Speaker 2: I mean, right now, the Chiefs after a single quarter

2112
01:48:21,120 --> 01:48:22,400
Speaker 2: on pace for five hundred.

2113
01:48:22,200 --> 01:48:23,360
Speaker 3: Yards of offense in this game.

2114
01:48:23,400 --> 01:48:26,120
Speaker 2: That's right against the number one defense in the league,

2115
01:48:26,600 --> 01:48:29,000
Speaker 2: and it's a balance attack. Ten passes of a Homes,

2116
01:48:29,000 --> 01:48:32,960
Speaker 2: they've run the ball eight times, so they're getting the balance.

2117
01:48:33,960 --> 01:48:37,200
Speaker 2: This is where we talk about planning a team game plan,

2118
01:48:38,200 --> 01:48:43,040
Speaker 2: Andy Reid and staff. You're going up against the Ravens, you,

2119
01:48:43,120 --> 01:48:45,479
Speaker 2: by the way, and coming off a lot of emotion

2120
01:48:45,640 --> 01:48:46,320
Speaker 2: in that win.

2121
01:48:46,160 --> 01:48:47,719
Speaker 3: On the road against the Buffalo Bills.

2122
01:48:47,880 --> 01:48:51,320
Speaker 2: I mean that's a hard game to wind down front

2123
01:48:51,760 --> 01:48:53,640
Speaker 2: because it was so back and forth. There was a

2124
01:48:53,720 --> 01:48:57,640
Speaker 2: lot of motion, big rivalry between Josh Allen and Patrick Mahomes.

2125
01:48:57,800 --> 01:49:00,360
Speaker 2: You prevail in that game, and now you have to

2126
01:49:00,439 --> 01:49:03,400
Speaker 2: come down, reset and get ready to go to Baltimore

2127
01:49:03,720 --> 01:49:06,360
Speaker 2: to take on the Ravens. But whatever game plan they

2128
01:49:06,400 --> 01:49:09,840
Speaker 2: set offensively, I mean, everything is working. I mean you

2129
01:49:09,880 --> 01:49:12,920
Speaker 2: could say, well, everything works when you have Mahomes at quarterback,

2130
01:49:12,960 --> 01:49:17,200
Speaker 2: all right, but still it just seems like they are

2131
01:49:17,240 --> 01:49:21,200
Speaker 2: a step ahead of this Ravens defense. And you know,

2132
01:49:21,360 --> 01:49:25,360
Speaker 2: first and after first down, a little short pass right

2133
01:49:25,400 --> 01:49:29,800
Speaker 2: there to Rice and let's see here we're down to

2134
01:49:29,840 --> 01:49:30,519
Speaker 2: second and five.

2135
01:49:30,560 --> 01:49:32,000
Speaker 3: Now for the Chiefs.

2136
01:49:32,320 --> 01:49:35,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, this is exactly the way the Chiefs want

2137
01:49:36,000 --> 01:49:38,559
Speaker 4: this game to go. They wanted to make sure that

2138
01:49:38,640 --> 01:49:41,639
Speaker 4: they could score on this Ravens defense. And then frankly,

2139
01:49:42,240 --> 01:49:45,320
Speaker 4: you get into whatever it is you want to get into,

2140
01:49:45,720 --> 01:49:48,400
Speaker 4: right you know, if you want to be more run heavy,

2141
01:49:48,520 --> 01:49:50,360
Speaker 4: if you want to get the ball out the sideline

2142
01:49:50,400 --> 01:49:52,439
Speaker 4: with the screen game, if you want to throw it

2143
01:49:52,439 --> 01:49:55,000
Speaker 4: over the middle to your tight end. They literally have

2144
01:49:55,320 --> 01:49:58,240
Speaker 4: everything at their availability right now, and so they're just

2145
01:49:58,320 --> 01:50:00,920
Speaker 4: testing out more. They're trying to see what they can

2146
01:50:00,920 --> 01:50:02,559
Speaker 4: stick with, what they need to scrap.

2147
01:50:02,640 --> 01:50:04,519
Speaker 3: Who whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa? What just happened? We had

2148
01:50:04,520 --> 01:50:05,400
Speaker 3: an incomplete pass?

2149
01:50:05,720 --> 01:50:08,960
Speaker 2: Oh no, no, yeah, that's mahomes first incomplete pass of

2150
01:50:09,040 --> 01:50:12,519
Speaker 2: the game, and it was it was behind.

2151
01:50:13,160 --> 01:50:14,280
Speaker 1: James on that play.

2152
01:50:14,560 --> 01:50:15,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, he got to catch that ball.

2153
01:50:16,000 --> 01:50:17,040
Speaker 1: Well, so it was.

2154
01:50:17,200 --> 01:50:20,519
Speaker 4: It was a little bit of a tough catch, but

2155
01:50:20,880 --> 01:50:24,640
Speaker 4: because Mahomes should have targeted the upfield shoulder there as

2156
01:50:24,720 --> 01:50:26,680
Speaker 4: James was breaking out towards the sideline.

2157
01:50:26,680 --> 01:50:27,960
Speaker 3: But you have gloves on.

2158
01:50:28,120 --> 01:50:31,599
Speaker 2: These gloves almost make it impossible to drop the ball

2159
01:50:31,600 --> 01:50:32,960
Speaker 2: if you get both hands on the.

2160
01:50:32,920 --> 01:50:35,280
Speaker 3: Ball and have drop hands on the ball. He had

2161
01:50:35,320 --> 01:50:36,280
Speaker 3: both hands on the ball.

2162
01:50:36,360 --> 01:50:38,599
Speaker 2: You you got to catch that one, all right, Big

2163
01:50:38,680 --> 01:50:41,560
Speaker 2: third and five right now for the Chiefs. Try to

2164
01:50:41,680 --> 01:50:45,759
Speaker 2: keep this drive alive. And Mahomes is scrambling looking looking

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Speaker 2: looking and just running all over the place. Throws the

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Speaker 2: ball down the field and caught by Kelsey.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, this is uh, this is I mean, this is.

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Speaker 1: This well, so so this is time?

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Speaker 3: Did he bie? Was that five second?

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Speaker 1: This was the tweet that I said earlier.

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Speaker 4: I said so after the Lamar Jackson touchdown to Zay Flowers,

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01:51:06,800 --> 01:51:09,559
Speaker 4: I wrote, there are two quarterbacks left in the NFL

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01:51:09,600 --> 01:51:13,479
Speaker 4: playing that can make plays like we just saw. And

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01:51:13,520 --> 01:51:15,599
Speaker 4: they're both on the field together and this is a

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01:51:15,640 --> 01:51:18,519
Speaker 4: prize fight and you just saw it there. So Lamar

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01:51:18,600 --> 01:51:21,760
Speaker 4: Jackson can buy time in the pocket. Yep, so kim

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01:51:21,800 --> 01:51:24,680
Speaker 4: Patrick Mahomes and he just did it. I mean that

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01:51:24,920 --> 01:51:27,960
Speaker 4: it took him about seven seconds to throw that football,

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Speaker 4: and while he was running away from Travis Kelcey literally

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01:51:32,120 --> 01:51:34,720
Speaker 4: in the opposite direction, he was able to float it

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01:51:34,720 --> 01:51:35,519
Speaker 4: out to Kelsey.

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01:51:35,840 --> 01:51:38,360
Speaker 1: He receives it for the first down conversion.

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01:51:38,439 --> 01:51:40,880
Speaker 2: All right, another short pass and all the way to

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01:51:41,000 --> 01:51:45,439
Speaker 2: the Baltimore twelve yard line. Right now, inside thirteen minutes

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01:51:45,439 --> 01:51:48,439
Speaker 2: to go in the first half, and this Chiefs offense

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01:51:48,479 --> 01:51:52,840
Speaker 2: on these two drives has been rolling, rolling, against the

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01:51:52,960 --> 01:51:57,160
Speaker 2: number one defense in the NFL by far, I mean statistically.

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01:51:57,520 --> 01:51:59,439
Speaker 2: Think about what the Ravens did to the forty nine

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01:51:59,520 --> 01:52:02,920
Speaker 2: ers early this year, completely shutting them down. But they

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01:52:02,960 --> 01:52:05,519
Speaker 2: have no answers right now for the Chiefs. They're running

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01:52:05,560 --> 01:52:09,320
Speaker 2: the ball effectively, and they're passing the ball effectively, and

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01:52:09,360 --> 01:52:11,240
Speaker 2: they're doing pretty much what they want, all right. So

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01:52:11,280 --> 01:52:14,920
Speaker 2: we got a third down coming up here, third down four?

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01:52:15,080 --> 01:52:16,920
Speaker 2: The Chiefs are they perfect on third down?

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01:52:17,000 --> 01:52:17,320
Speaker 1: So far?

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01:52:17,920 --> 01:52:21,680
Speaker 4: They've missed one conversion? I believe they miss one on

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01:52:21,760 --> 01:52:24,280
Speaker 4: the opening driver. What's that the Ravens. It must have

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01:52:24,280 --> 01:52:27,040
Speaker 4: been the Ravens because then they converted on their fourth

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Speaker 4: and one.

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Speaker 2: All right, So just to check out the team's stats

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01:52:31,320 --> 01:52:33,639
Speaker 2: right now here, this is something I'm doing as quickly

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Speaker 2: as I possibly can see.

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01:52:34,960 --> 01:52:37,200
Speaker 3: I have this other Yeah, they're three or four, three

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01:52:37,280 --> 01:52:39,040
Speaker 3: or four? Yeah, But then they got it on fourth down.

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01:52:39,160 --> 01:52:41,280
Speaker 3: Remember they went on fourth down and got it, all right,

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01:52:41,320 --> 01:52:41,680
Speaker 3: So a.

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01:52:41,720 --> 01:52:47,439
Speaker 2: Third down here for the Chiefs, and you gotta want

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01:52:47,439 --> 01:52:49,559
Speaker 2: to hear are you gonna run or pass on third

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Speaker 2: and three.

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01:52:50,720 --> 01:52:53,680
Speaker 3: You think the pass is always the call, right, Yeah.

2211
01:52:53,520 --> 01:52:57,599
Speaker 4: I mean my guess is they'll probably throw the football here,

2212
01:52:57,760 --> 01:53:02,920
Speaker 4: because again, that's been so effective the Kelsey Mahomes hookup

2213
01:53:02,920 --> 01:53:05,759
Speaker 4: on third down, especially when you're in the low red zone.

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01:53:06,040 --> 01:53:08,519
Speaker 4: You want to throw a high percentage pass to a

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01:53:08,600 --> 01:53:11,200
Speaker 4: high percentage player, all.

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01:53:11,160 --> 01:53:14,479
Speaker 2: Right, Instead, let's see what they do and uh oh,

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01:53:14,560 --> 01:53:15,439
Speaker 2: Mahomes is out.

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01:53:15,280 --> 01:53:17,479
Speaker 3: Of the pocket. He's gonna run for a first down. Okay,

2219
01:53:17,640 --> 01:53:20,559
Speaker 3: that's what he does. Okay, So wow.

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01:53:20,400 --> 01:53:23,599
Speaker 4: This is just fun to watch, Hary and Frankly, what

2221
01:53:23,640 --> 01:53:27,320
Speaker 4: you're seeing from the Baltimore Ravens, oddly is the same

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01:53:27,360 --> 01:53:30,439
Speaker 4: thing you're seeing from the Kansas City Chiefs defensively, Like

2223
01:53:30,520 --> 01:53:34,280
Speaker 4: so Patrick Queen, he was spying Mahomes. They rushed for

2224
01:53:34,960 --> 01:53:38,000
Speaker 4: and everybody stayed in their rush lanes. Watch on the replay,

2225
01:53:38,160 --> 01:53:40,400
Speaker 4: everybody is trying to contain Mahomes. Don't let him out

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01:53:40,400 --> 01:53:42,360
Speaker 4: of pocket, especially in the low red zone, because he's

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01:53:42,360 --> 01:53:45,320
Speaker 4: gonna find somebody open downfield. And then Queen comes out

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01:53:45,320 --> 01:53:48,040
Speaker 4: of that QB spy position to try to make the

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01:53:48,080 --> 01:53:50,720
Speaker 4: tackle before the yard. Again, but Mahomes is a good

2230
01:53:50,800 --> 01:53:53,240
Speaker 4: enough and big enough athlete to power forward and get

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01:53:53,240 --> 01:53:57,080
Speaker 4: the first down inside the Baltimore six yard line.

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01:53:56,880 --> 01:53:59,760
Speaker 2: All right, and then Pacheco just carried the ball down

2233
01:53:59,760 --> 01:54:02,759
Speaker 2: to the two yard line, so they're getting close once

2234
01:54:02,800 --> 01:54:06,320
Speaker 2: again inside twelve minutes to go. As the Chiefs looking

2235
01:54:06,320 --> 01:54:09,679
Speaker 2: to go two for two as far as scoring drives

2236
01:54:09,720 --> 01:54:12,519
Speaker 2: are concerned. By the ways, listening to the guys this morning,

2237
01:54:12,600 --> 01:54:15,960
Speaker 2: the over under on Chiefs field.

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01:54:15,600 --> 01:54:17,439
Speaker 3: Goals was one and a half.

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01:54:17,840 --> 01:54:18,240
Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 2: And Brian know is like, I can see multiple field

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01:54:23,520 --> 01:54:27,679
Speaker 2: goals here against that Ravens defense where maybe they get stopped,

2242
01:54:28,280 --> 01:54:32,520
Speaker 2: but right now it doesn't look like there's any touchdown Chiefs. Yep, yeah,

2243
01:54:32,520 --> 01:54:37,160
Speaker 2: Pachecko going by the way, really little resistance on that

2244
01:54:37,320 --> 01:54:41,040
Speaker 2: touchdown run by Pachecko. So just like that, the Chiefs

2245
01:54:41,040 --> 01:54:44,000
Speaker 2: are up thirteen to seven, penny the extra point.

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01:54:44,040 --> 01:54:44,240
Speaker 4: All right.

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01:54:44,240 --> 01:54:48,000
Speaker 2: We continue on our coverage of this AFC Championship game.

2248
01:54:48,320 --> 01:54:50,720
Speaker 2: Much more of the game coming up between the Lions

2249
01:54:50,760 --> 01:54:51,880
Speaker 2: and the forty nine Ers.

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Speaker 3: This is Fox Sports Red Zone Radio.

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01:54:54,080 --> 01:54:55,640
Speaker 4: Hands on his knees is p Checko.

2252
01:54:55,880 --> 01:54:57,120
Speaker 1: He'll get it again behind.

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01:54:56,960 --> 01:54:59,160
Speaker 3: Left car trying at putching push on.

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01:55:01,040 --> 01:55:02,280
Speaker 1: Chansas City.

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Speaker 11: The Ravens defense has only average given up sixteen points

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01:55:06,200 --> 01:55:09,400
Speaker 11: a game this year, the Chiefs have fourteen in their

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01:55:09,400 --> 01:55:10,560
Speaker 11: first two drives.

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01:55:11,080 --> 01:55:12,360
Speaker 3: That's one oh six point five.

2259
01:55:12,440 --> 01:55:16,320
Speaker 2: The Wolf and the Chiefs radio network apparently anticipating the

2260
01:55:16,320 --> 01:55:21,040
Speaker 2: extra point. All right, once again, this is a Fox

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01:55:21,040 --> 01:55:24,040
Speaker 2: Sports Red Zone radio Steve Hartbin Rich Armberger. We are

2262
01:55:24,040 --> 01:55:28,240
Speaker 2: alive from the tire rack dot Com studios, and we

2263
01:55:28,400 --> 01:55:34,520
Speaker 2: have a fumble by Lamar Jackson. He was sacked, he fumbled,

2264
01:55:34,520 --> 01:55:38,280
Speaker 2: the ball recovered by the Kansas City Chiefs.

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01:55:38,560 --> 01:55:42,680
Speaker 4: Yep, Lamar Jackson. He has a tendency to fumble in

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01:55:42,720 --> 01:55:47,600
Speaker 4: the postseason. So Lamar, including this last game, he's appeared

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01:55:47,920 --> 01:55:51,440
Speaker 4: in six now, well, I guess including this game seven

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01:55:51,480 --> 01:55:55,360
Speaker 4: postseason games. He's fumbled five times in the postseason. He's

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01:55:55,440 --> 01:55:58,080
Speaker 4: lost one of them. Did they recover?

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01:55:58,240 --> 01:55:59,200
Speaker 1: Did the Chiefs? I miss?

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01:55:59,280 --> 01:56:01,880
Speaker 3: Who got the It was recovered by Kansas City?

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01:56:02,000 --> 01:56:03,840
Speaker 1: Okay, so there you go. So that's the second one

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01:56:03,880 --> 01:56:04,560
Speaker 1: he's lost now.

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01:56:04,640 --> 01:56:06,760
Speaker 2: So yeah, and so all of a sudden, the Chiefs

2275
01:56:06,840 --> 01:56:09,200
Speaker 2: already have fourteen to seven, have the ball at the

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01:56:09,280 --> 01:56:10,920
Speaker 2: Ravens thirty three yard line.

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01:56:11,240 --> 01:56:12,640
Speaker 3: Chiefs have had two drives.

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01:56:12,680 --> 01:56:14,640
Speaker 2: And by the way, it's not just the fact that

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01:56:14,680 --> 01:56:17,200
Speaker 2: they've already rolled up one hundred and fifty six yards

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01:56:17,880 --> 01:56:22,839
Speaker 2: in offense. Those two drives have accumulated almost fifteen minutes.

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01:56:23,240 --> 01:56:23,480
Speaker 4: Yep.

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01:56:24,200 --> 01:56:28,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they are just grinding up this Ravens

2283
01:56:29,000 --> 01:56:31,440
Speaker 2: defense and now they get an opportunity on the short

2284
01:56:31,440 --> 01:56:38,920
Speaker 2: field to extend their lead. Okay, you know, it's interesting

2285
01:56:38,920 --> 01:56:40,960
Speaker 2: when I watch a team like the chief I was

2286
01:56:41,040 --> 01:56:44,320
Speaker 2: reminded us watching the Denver Nuggets the other day. Sure,

2287
01:56:44,880 --> 01:56:47,960
Speaker 2: so you're defending NBA champions and yeah, yeah, a little

2288
01:56:47,960 --> 01:56:51,760
Speaker 2: inconsistent this year, but every time they're on the biggest stage,

2289
01:56:52,000 --> 01:56:54,280
Speaker 2: like they're going to Boston who hadn't lost a home

2290
01:56:54,280 --> 01:56:55,480
Speaker 2: game all year, and all of a sudden they show

2291
01:56:55,520 --> 01:56:58,440
Speaker 2: up and win. You almost feel like with the Chiefs

2292
01:56:58,960 --> 01:57:02,240
Speaker 2: having been down this road so many times now that

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01:57:02,760 --> 01:57:05,000
Speaker 2: I won't say they weren't doing one hundred percent during

2294
01:57:05,000 --> 01:57:09,840
Speaker 2: the regular season, but they have a next gear and

2295
01:57:10,840 --> 01:57:13,640
Speaker 2: they're showing it right now. I mean, they're they're just

2296
01:57:14,120 --> 01:57:17,400
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, the Chiefs team that has underperformed

2297
01:57:17,400 --> 01:57:21,040
Speaker 2: by their standards pretty much most of this season is

2298
01:57:21,120 --> 01:57:24,320
Speaker 2: looking as dominant as ever so far in this AFC

2299
01:57:24,480 --> 01:57:25,280
Speaker 2: Championship game.

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01:57:25,880 --> 01:57:30,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, and again, it's it's one of those things that

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01:57:30,080 --> 01:57:35,160
Speaker 4: can't be replicated, right, you experience in AFC championship games.

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01:57:35,520 --> 01:57:38,040
Speaker 4: You know, I made the comparison yesterday morning on Fox

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01:57:38,040 --> 01:57:41,840
Speaker 4: Sports Radio Countdown to Kickoff that. You know, Lamar Jackson,

2304
01:57:42,480 --> 01:57:46,480
Speaker 4: he can he can talk about, you know, wanting to

2305
01:57:46,520 --> 01:57:50,040
Speaker 4: have success in the AFC Championship game, but he doesn't

2306
01:57:50,080 --> 01:57:53,200
Speaker 4: know what it's like to have success in AFC Championship

2307
01:57:53,240 --> 01:57:56,720
Speaker 4: game because he's never played in an AFC Championship game.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's almost like Bane from bat.

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01:58:00,480 --> 01:58:04,560
Speaker 4: You know the old quote, Wow, you know you merely

2310
01:58:04,600 --> 01:58:06,960
Speaker 4: adopted the doc I was born in it.

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01:58:07,080 --> 01:58:09,400
Speaker 1: Well, that's Patrick Mahomes. He's Bane.

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01:58:09,720 --> 01:58:14,200
Speaker 4: Okay, he's been in the AFC Championship game. He's basically

2313
01:58:14,240 --> 01:58:17,600
Speaker 4: been born in it. He's he's played in only AFC

2314
01:58:17,680 --> 01:58:20,680
Speaker 4: Championship games since he's been a starting quarterback in the NFL.

2315
01:58:20,760 --> 01:58:23,880
Speaker 4: So you're, regardless of whatever you think about hold home

2316
01:58:23,880 --> 01:58:28,480
Speaker 4: field advantage, You're you're on Patrick mahomes turf. Now, this

2317
01:58:28,560 --> 01:58:31,480
Speaker 4: is what it looks like. He understands what needs to

2318
01:58:31,520 --> 01:58:35,040
Speaker 4: be done in this game. And so Lamar Jackson obviously

2319
01:58:35,160 --> 01:58:37,880
Speaker 4: has the benefit of playing in Baltimore, but he hasn't

2320
01:58:37,880 --> 01:58:40,520
Speaker 4: had the experience or the benefit of playing in five

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Speaker 4: AFC championship games before this moment, like Patrick Mahomes.

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01:58:44,480 --> 01:58:46,640
Speaker 2: All right, so they get the ball officially on the

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01:58:46,680 --> 01:58:49,280
Speaker 2: thirty three yard line of the Ravens after the fumble

2324
01:58:49,320 --> 01:58:50,440
Speaker 2: recovery pa Checko.

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Speaker 3: By the way, his tenth carry already in this game.

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01:58:55,320 --> 01:58:58,800
Speaker 3: Tenth carry, Yeah for Bajeco. I mean, which, by.

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01:58:58,680 --> 01:59:02,040
Speaker 4: The way, I had the I had the Pacheco prop

2328
01:59:02,440 --> 01:59:04,760
Speaker 4: that he would have higher than fourteen and a half

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01:59:04,880 --> 01:59:06,800
Speaker 4: rushing attempt that by halftime.

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01:59:07,000 --> 01:59:08,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, looks like that's.

2331
01:59:07,920 --> 01:59:08,919
Speaker 4: Gonna hit by halftime.

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01:59:09,080 --> 01:59:11,840
Speaker 1: And that's a full game prop. That wasn't the halftime prop.

2333
01:59:12,200 --> 01:59:14,040
Speaker 2: By the way, I don't know what the overrunner on

2334
01:59:14,120 --> 01:59:17,000
Speaker 2: Kelsey's receptions. He just caught his six pass of the

2335
01:59:17,040 --> 01:59:20,560
Speaker 2: game fifty eight yards. He's just just short of the

2336
01:59:20,600 --> 01:59:26,160
Speaker 2: first down there. So Kelsey's having a big game so far.

2337
01:59:26,360 --> 01:59:26,480
Speaker 4: Rare.

2338
01:59:26,480 --> 01:59:28,360
Speaker 2: She Rice, by the way, has four catches in this

2339
01:59:28,440 --> 01:59:31,800
Speaker 2: game for the Chiefs as well, and Mahomes is fourteen

2340
01:59:31,840 --> 01:59:32,480
Speaker 2: out of fifteen.

2341
01:59:32,760 --> 01:59:34,880
Speaker 1: Yep, there you go it.

2342
01:59:34,960 --> 01:59:37,920
Speaker 4: Look, part of the problem here is Lamar Jackson. Now,

2343
01:59:38,320 --> 01:59:43,880
Speaker 4: the Chiefs offense obviously is rolling, but Lamar Jackson cannot

2344
01:59:44,400 --> 01:59:45,840
Speaker 4: give the Chiefs.

2345
01:59:45,600 --> 01:59:47,320
Speaker 1: The ball back like he just can't do it.

2346
01:59:47,360 --> 01:59:50,400
Speaker 4: And I understand it's a strip sack and it's from

2347
01:59:50,560 --> 01:59:54,760
Speaker 4: you know, it's from the blind side. But yeah, I mean, like, yeah,

2348
01:59:54,880 --> 01:59:57,640
Speaker 4: you have to find a way to protect the football

2349
01:59:57,680 --> 01:59:58,440
Speaker 4: at all times.

2350
01:59:58,480 --> 01:59:58,960
Speaker 1: You can't.

2351
01:59:59,200 --> 02:00:02,520
Speaker 4: You can't have any you can't have any plays like

2352
02:00:02,600 --> 02:00:06,960
Speaker 4: this affect your team negatively. It's it's going to bite

2353
02:00:07,000 --> 02:00:09,919
Speaker 4: them because you cannot allow the Chiefs to steal possession.

2354
02:00:10,040 --> 02:00:12,280
Speaker 3: By the way, I see a Ravens player going down.

2355
02:00:12,280 --> 02:00:13,960
Speaker 2: I don't know how hurt he is, but it's stopped

2356
02:00:13,960 --> 02:00:16,360
Speaker 2: the clock, which I think they desperately need to do.

2357
02:00:16,400 --> 02:00:18,000
Speaker 3: Another first down for the Chiefs.

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Speaker 2: We continue on with our coverage of this AFC Championship Game,

2359
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Speaker 2: Big day in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: This is Fox Sports Red Zone Radio.

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02:00:25,520 --> 02:00:28,160
Speaker 1: Mahomes raises the right leg and takes the snap, darts

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Speaker 1: a passer.

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Speaker 11: Side talk by Kelsey wrapped to the ground at the

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02:00:31,280 --> 02:00:35,000
Speaker 11: twelve again of nine yards and now Travis Kelcey with

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Speaker 11: that reception the all time NFL postseason reception leader in

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Speaker 11: National Football League history, eclipsing the great Cherry Rice.

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Speaker 2: That's one O six point five The Wolf and the

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Speaker 2: Chiefs Radio network a record reception for Travis Kelcey, but

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Speaker 2: a turnover on downs. We'll get you all updated on

2370
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Speaker 2: this AFC Championship game. This is Fox Sports Red Zone Radio.

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Speaker 2: So after that reception by Kelsey, it's set up a

2377
02:01:19,840 --> 02:01:23,960
Speaker 2: fourth and one and the Chiefs ran the ball, did

2378
02:01:24,040 --> 02:01:27,200
Speaker 2: not get the first down. And how about this for

2379
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Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson. He just threw a thirteen yard pass to

2380
02:01:31,680 --> 02:01:35,360
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson, so the ball was tipped at the line

2381
02:01:35,360 --> 02:01:37,800
Speaker 2: of scrimmage and one up in the air. Everyone's looking up.

2382
02:01:37,840 --> 02:01:40,880
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson just said, I'll catch it. You can do

2383
02:01:40,920 --> 02:01:43,880
Speaker 2: that as long as the ball's tipped. So Jackson did

2384
02:01:44,000 --> 02:01:46,920
Speaker 2: Jackson for thirteen yards, and all of a sudden, the

2385
02:01:47,000 --> 02:01:49,800
Speaker 2: Ravens trying to get back in this game, have got

2386
02:01:49,840 --> 02:01:51,960
Speaker 2: a little momentum. But that was a big stop on

2387
02:01:52,080 --> 02:01:55,320
Speaker 2: fourth and one. It was definitely short. Proteco's knee went

2388
02:01:55,440 --> 02:01:59,480
Speaker 2: down short of the first down, and the Ravens desperately

2389
02:01:59,520 --> 02:01:59,960
Speaker 2: needed that.

2390
02:02:00,400 --> 02:02:05,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, no question about it. Wow, Well, Lamar Jackson, if

2391
02:02:05,520 --> 02:02:10,120
Speaker 4: we say nothing else about him, he'll go down in

2392
02:02:10,160 --> 02:02:13,040
Speaker 4: the history books for that play. Yeah, that is the

2393
02:02:13,200 --> 02:02:17,480
Speaker 4: longest self reception. I should say that's the longest reception

2394
02:02:17,640 --> 02:02:20,880
Speaker 4: a quarterback has ever thrown to himself in an NFL

2395
02:02:20,920 --> 02:02:23,920
Speaker 4: playoff game. There's no question about that. But yeah, I

2396
02:02:24,080 --> 02:02:27,920
Speaker 4: just went through the stats and I was perusing history

2397
02:02:28,000 --> 02:02:30,760
Speaker 4: to give you an update on what we just saw

2398
02:02:30,800 --> 02:02:33,800
Speaker 4: to make sure that had my fact straight. And I

2399
02:02:33,960 --> 02:02:38,360
Speaker 4: wasn't overblowing Jackson's inability to possess the football in the postseason.

2400
02:02:38,440 --> 02:02:41,880
Speaker 4: So check this out. So, Lamar Jackson has been in

2401
02:02:41,920 --> 02:02:47,880
Speaker 4: five playoff games, six including this one today. In his

2402
02:02:47,960 --> 02:02:52,360
Speaker 4: six playoff appearances, he has a total of eight turnovers,

2403
02:02:52,360 --> 02:02:56,240
Speaker 4: including fumbles lost and his five interceptions. He's lost three fumbles.

2404
02:02:56,360 --> 02:02:59,640
Speaker 4: He's fumbled the football six times, they've lost three of them. Now,

2405
02:02:59,680 --> 02:03:02,560
Speaker 4: Mahome has more fumbles in the postseason, but he's also

2406
02:03:02,680 --> 02:03:06,120
Speaker 4: played in ninth or excuse me, seventeen playoff games. During

2407
02:03:06,160 --> 02:03:09,120
Speaker 4: his seventeen playoff games, he has nine fumbles. The Chiefs

2408
02:03:09,160 --> 02:03:11,600
Speaker 4: have only lost one of them. He has seven interceptions.

2409
02:03:11,800 --> 02:03:16,120
Speaker 4: They have the exact same number of turnovers that they're

2410
02:03:16,160 --> 02:03:21,520
Speaker 4: responsible for. And Mahomes has played in eleven more playoff games.

2411
02:03:21,680 --> 02:03:26,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, by the way, the Ravens drive stalled. Lamar Jackson.

2412
02:03:26,880 --> 02:03:29,720
Speaker 2: By the way, just four of nine passing in this game.

2413
02:03:29,760 --> 02:03:32,480
Speaker 2: He didn't have the touchdown pass earlier to Zay Flowers.

2414
02:03:32,760 --> 02:03:34,960
Speaker 2: But they've had to punt the ball away, which is

2415
02:03:35,000 --> 02:03:38,840
Speaker 2: not good news because with less than four minutes to

2416
02:03:38,880 --> 02:03:40,880
Speaker 2: go in the half, that's probably the last time the

2417
02:03:40,960 --> 02:03:42,680
Speaker 2: Ravens are going to see the ball in the first half.

2418
02:03:42,840 --> 02:03:43,040
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2419
02:03:43,600 --> 02:03:47,920
Speaker 2: Time of possession in this game is eighteen minutes to

2420
02:03:48,000 --> 02:03:51,680
Speaker 2: eight in favor of the Chiefs. Not only the Chiefs

2421
02:03:51,680 --> 02:03:55,400
Speaker 2: scored fourteen points. And I mean, but you know, again,

2422
02:03:55,560 --> 02:03:59,120
Speaker 2: you went for an on fourth and one. Understandable, I

2423
02:03:59,160 --> 02:04:02,960
Speaker 2: thought a little running Pacheco again. You know, he's again

2424
02:04:03,040 --> 02:04:06,320
Speaker 2: thirteen carries in the first half of Pacheco. He's averaging

2425
02:04:06,400 --> 02:04:09,680
Speaker 2: three point one yards of carry. Yeah, had one twelve

2426
02:04:09,760 --> 02:04:12,320
Speaker 2: yard run. It's not like he's running wild out there.

2427
02:04:12,880 --> 02:04:15,840
Speaker 2: And I don't know, I've got fourth and one and

2428
02:04:15,880 --> 02:04:17,120
Speaker 2: I got Patrick Mahomes.

2429
02:04:17,160 --> 02:04:18,680
Speaker 3: I'm gonna let him decide the play.

2430
02:04:18,960 --> 02:04:19,240
Speaker 4: Yep.

2431
02:04:19,640 --> 02:04:20,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know.

2432
02:04:20,120 --> 02:04:23,160
Speaker 2: I mean again, it seems like you can just in

2433
02:04:23,200 --> 02:04:27,520
Speaker 2: this game, Kelsey's been targeted seven times, he has seven receptions.

2434
02:04:28,280 --> 02:04:29,760
Speaker 3: Why would you do anything else?

2435
02:04:30,240 --> 02:04:30,400
Speaker 1: Now?

2436
02:04:30,600 --> 02:04:35,160
Speaker 2: They have they literally have not stopped Kelsey the entire game.

2437
02:04:35,960 --> 02:04:38,520
Speaker 2: So regardless of where the ball is fourth and one,

2438
02:04:38,600 --> 02:04:39,760
Speaker 2: I'm throwing the ball to Kelsey.

2439
02:04:39,960 --> 02:04:42,760
Speaker 4: Well, I again, I get what you're saying. I'm not

2440
02:04:43,000 --> 02:04:46,360
Speaker 4: I'm not disagreeing with it. But clearly the Chiefs came

2441
02:04:46,360 --> 02:04:48,840
Speaker 4: in with a game plan. They came in with a

2442
02:04:48,880 --> 02:04:51,800
Speaker 4: game plan that we are going to try to try

2443
02:04:51,840 --> 02:04:55,920
Speaker 4: our hardest, and they have to keep this, keep the

2444
02:04:56,000 --> 02:05:01,360
Speaker 4: rushing and the passing almost completely. And they and they've

2445
02:05:01,360 --> 02:05:05,480
Speaker 4: thrown the football sixteen times, and they've ran the football

2446
02:05:05,560 --> 02:05:08,960
Speaker 4: or excuse me, he's attempted seventeen passes. They've rushed the

2447
02:05:08,960 --> 02:05:12,160
Speaker 4: football sixteen times. Right, it is dead balance.

2448
02:05:12,280 --> 02:05:14,560
Speaker 3: That's fine, But on fourth and one, I'm going to Kelsey.

2449
02:05:14,640 --> 02:05:15,160
Speaker 1: I get it.

2450
02:05:15,920 --> 02:05:16,640
Speaker 3: I did it again.

2451
02:05:16,880 --> 02:05:20,400
Speaker 2: Seven targets, seven receptions. So, by the way, that's most

2452
02:05:20,480 --> 02:05:25,440
Speaker 2: career receptions in postseason history. He tops Jerry Rice number

2453
02:05:25,480 --> 02:05:29,600
Speaker 2: one tight endow by the way, you know who's third

2454
02:05:29,640 --> 02:05:30,200
Speaker 2: on that list?

2455
02:05:30,400 --> 02:05:30,760
Speaker 4: Who's that?

2456
02:05:31,000 --> 02:05:32,720
Speaker 1: Or let me think about it.

2457
02:05:33,280 --> 02:05:41,160
Speaker 4: Most receptions, no, Antonio Gates, no, hang on hand list.

2458
02:05:41,840 --> 02:05:44,360
Speaker 3: This is not just tight ends. This is any receiver.

2459
02:05:44,720 --> 02:05:48,320
Speaker 2: Okay, third a tight end. This most receptions in the

2460
02:05:48,320 --> 02:05:52,840
Speaker 2: postseason all time. Kelsey's now won, Jerry Rice's two. Who's

2461
02:05:52,920 --> 02:05:53,440
Speaker 2: number three?

2462
02:05:53,560 --> 02:05:55,680
Speaker 1: Oh my god, this is such a great question.

2463
02:05:56,040 --> 02:05:57,800
Speaker 3: You know this guy, well I do?

2464
02:05:58,080 --> 02:05:58,840
Speaker 1: Huh yeah, you do?

2465
02:05:59,560 --> 02:05:59,640
Speaker 2: Well?

2466
02:05:59,760 --> 02:06:00,920
Speaker 3: First, that's why you got to think about it.

2467
02:06:01,080 --> 02:06:01,760
Speaker 1: Jillian Edelman.

2468
02:06:01,880 --> 02:06:03,080
Speaker 3: Julian Edelman, there he is.

2469
02:06:03,680 --> 02:06:07,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, yeah, that makes sense because think about like, okay,

2470
02:06:07,680 --> 02:06:11,680
Speaker 4: for example, the Kansas City Chiefs AFC Championship game they

2471
02:06:11,680 --> 02:06:15,440
Speaker 4: were hosting the Patriots, that final drive where Brady had

2472
02:06:15,480 --> 02:06:18,600
Speaker 4: to drive to score to beat the Chiefs and advance

2473
02:06:18,640 --> 02:06:21,120
Speaker 4: to the Super Bowl. Who did he dial up twice

2474
02:06:21,160 --> 02:06:24,480
Speaker 4: on that drive? Number eleven? Julian Edelman. There were two

2475
02:06:24,560 --> 02:06:27,640
Speaker 4: seam routes that they hit on that final offensive drive

2476
02:06:27,720 --> 02:06:30,840
Speaker 4: from the Patriots that sent Mahomes and the Chiefs home

2477
02:06:30,880 --> 02:06:32,920
Speaker 4: and they advanced to a Super Bowl that they later

2478
02:06:33,000 --> 02:06:36,840
Speaker 4: won against the Los Angeles Rams. So yeah, that makes sense.

2479
02:06:36,960 --> 02:06:37,720
Speaker 4: Julian Edelman.

2480
02:06:37,760 --> 02:06:39,680
Speaker 1: Wow. Third on the list all time.

2481
02:06:39,600 --> 02:06:42,560
Speaker 2: All time receptions all right on first down starting this

2482
02:06:42,640 --> 02:06:45,000
Speaker 2: drive on their own twenty nine yard line.

2483
02:06:45,000 --> 02:06:47,920
Speaker 3: The Chiefs go for a DP pass, a good non.

2484
02:06:47,800 --> 02:06:51,560
Speaker 2: Call in a D pass, So second ten coming up

2485
02:06:51,880 --> 02:06:55,280
Speaker 2: for Mahomes and the Chiefs fourteen seven three p forty

2486
02:06:55,320 --> 02:06:58,240
Speaker 2: two to go in this first half, and again time

2487
02:06:58,240 --> 02:07:01,760
Speaker 2: of possession, clearly in camp as a city side, but

2488
02:07:02,000 --> 02:07:04,240
Speaker 2: again that they had a chance.

2489
02:07:03,960 --> 02:07:05,640
Speaker 3: To really put the nail on the coffin.

2490
02:07:05,720 --> 02:07:08,360
Speaker 2: We said, if they if they go up two touchdowns,

2491
02:07:09,720 --> 02:07:13,880
Speaker 2: not impossible, really rough on the Ravens. But they decided

2492
02:07:13,880 --> 02:07:15,560
Speaker 2: to go for on fourth and run with a run

2493
02:07:15,640 --> 02:07:19,040
Speaker 2: and got stuffed. And that's how the Ravens are still

2494
02:07:19,040 --> 02:07:21,160
Speaker 2: in this game. And that's the one thing about a

2495
02:07:21,200 --> 02:07:25,280
Speaker 2: team like the Ravens, right, The Chiefs have dominated this

2496
02:07:25,360 --> 02:07:29,480
Speaker 2: first half. They've dominated this first half in time of possession,

2497
02:07:29,640 --> 02:07:33,080
Speaker 2: total yards, in just about every single measurement, and they're

2498
02:07:33,120 --> 02:07:38,080
Speaker 2: only up one score. And I think back to, you know,

2499
02:07:38,120 --> 02:07:38,720
Speaker 2: their nightmare.

2500
02:07:38,800 --> 02:07:39,400
Speaker 3: You remember that.

2501
02:07:39,400 --> 02:07:43,320
Speaker 2: Incredible AFC Championship game. We were sitting here when they

2502
02:07:43,320 --> 02:07:45,600
Speaker 2: were playing the Bengals at home. Remember the Chiefs were

2503
02:07:45,640 --> 02:07:48,360
Speaker 2: scoring it will in the first half. There there's like

2504
02:07:48,400 --> 02:07:50,480
Speaker 2: a blow. I wasn't twenty one nothing, you know, it

2505
02:07:50,560 --> 02:07:52,840
Speaker 2: was just like every drive and then all of a

2506
02:07:52,920 --> 02:07:57,040
Speaker 2: sudden second half when the Bengals came up with answers

2507
02:07:57,360 --> 02:08:01,800
Speaker 2: defensively and the Chiefs did nothing, and they lost that game.

2508
02:08:01,880 --> 02:08:06,000
Speaker 2: And I just get the suspicion that if somehow the

2509
02:08:06,080 --> 02:08:10,440
Speaker 2: Ravens go on the half only down a touchdown, John

2510
02:08:10,480 --> 02:08:12,200
Speaker 2: Harbaugh and his staff are going to come up with

2511
02:08:12,240 --> 02:08:14,600
Speaker 2: some answers and have a different look in the second half.

2512
02:08:14,760 --> 02:08:17,920
Speaker 1: Well, listen again, you know, going back.

2513
02:08:17,800 --> 02:08:20,000
Speaker 3: To you by the way, the Chiefs are punting for

2514
02:08:20,040 --> 02:08:20,680
Speaker 3: the first time.

2515
02:08:20,920 --> 02:08:27,760
Speaker 4: The statistical comparison between Lamar Jackson and Patrick Mahomes, I know,

2516
02:08:27,800 --> 02:08:31,640
Speaker 4: I talked about the turnovers again, including this game, six

2517
02:08:31,680 --> 02:08:37,200
Speaker 4: playoff appearances for Jackson, he's accounted for eight turnovers, and

2518
02:08:37,320 --> 02:08:40,920
Speaker 4: it's eighteen playoff appearances for Mahomes and he has the

2519
02:08:40,920 --> 02:08:43,920
Speaker 4: same number of turnovers. And then you look at that

2520
02:08:44,000 --> 02:08:47,120
Speaker 4: and you say, okay, well, all right, is eight turnovers

2521
02:08:47,160 --> 02:08:48,600
Speaker 4: over six games all that bad?

2522
02:08:48,720 --> 02:08:51,480
Speaker 1: Well, well, no, not necessarily. But then you look.

2523
02:08:51,320 --> 02:08:55,360
Speaker 4: At total touchdowns including rushing, right because Lamar Jackson, obviously

2524
02:08:55,400 --> 02:08:58,080
Speaker 4: near the goal line, is a threat to nine total

2525
02:08:58,120 --> 02:09:02,160
Speaker 4: touchdowns over that span of six games to Mahomes forty

2526
02:09:02,320 --> 02:09:06,160
Speaker 4: four total touchdowns over the span of eighteen games. Now,

2527
02:09:06,240 --> 02:09:09,720
Speaker 4: I understand that can be lopsided because Mahomes has played

2528
02:09:09,720 --> 02:09:12,400
Speaker 4: in so many more games, but the same number of

2529
02:09:12,440 --> 02:09:15,000
Speaker 4: turnovers over that time. That means that the Chiefs are

2530
02:09:15,040 --> 02:09:18,640
Speaker 4: more careful with the football. Patrick Mahomes specifically, is more careful.

2531
02:09:18,280 --> 02:09:18,959
Speaker 1: With the football.

2532
02:09:19,400 --> 02:09:23,760
Speaker 4: Lamar Jackson, also in the postseason, isn't the touchdown machine

2533
02:09:23,760 --> 02:09:26,920
Speaker 4: that he is in the regular season because those stats

2534
02:09:27,200 --> 02:09:30,600
Speaker 4: are not equitable to what he does in the regular season.

2535
02:09:30,960 --> 02:09:34,480
Speaker 1: I'm not sure why. In fact, I do know why.

2536
02:09:35,200 --> 02:09:38,839
Speaker 4: It's because there's certain guys who can operate when stress

2537
02:09:38,920 --> 02:09:42,320
Speaker 4: is extremely high, and there's certain guys who can or

2538
02:09:42,400 --> 02:09:43,560
Speaker 4: still need to learn how to.

2539
02:09:44,000 --> 02:09:46,360
Speaker 1: And I still put Lamar Jackson in that camp.

2540
02:09:46,840 --> 02:09:49,440
Speaker 4: If you're trailing by seven points at halftime, this is

2541
02:09:49,480 --> 02:09:52,320
Speaker 4: going to be a hard second half for the Ravens.

2542
02:09:52,320 --> 02:09:54,800
Speaker 2: Well, they may not be down seven because Townsend just

2543
02:09:54,840 --> 02:09:58,440
Speaker 2: had a thirty yard punt oh geez, So all of

2544
02:09:58,440 --> 02:10:01,120
Speaker 2: a sudden, the Ravens take over at their own forty

2545
02:10:01,160 --> 02:10:03,400
Speaker 2: one yard line with two forty seven to go in

2546
02:10:03,440 --> 02:10:03,960
Speaker 2: the half.

2547
02:10:04,040 --> 02:10:05,960
Speaker 1: It helps you when you hand a team half a

2548
02:10:06,000 --> 02:10:06,880
Speaker 1: field to deal with.

2549
02:10:07,080 --> 02:10:09,400
Speaker 2: I mean, that was a disastrous punt. It was one

2550
02:10:09,440 --> 02:10:11,800
Speaker 2: of those that hit and went backwards and you never

2551
02:10:11,840 --> 02:10:14,120
Speaker 2: want to see that in a punt. So great field

2552
02:10:14,120 --> 02:10:17,520
Speaker 2: position for the Ravens. Was still two forty seven to

2553
02:10:17,560 --> 02:10:21,040
Speaker 2: go in this half. They still have three timeouts left,

2554
02:10:21,080 --> 02:10:23,600
Speaker 2: so they've got plenty of time. If they could go

2555
02:10:23,640 --> 02:10:27,680
Speaker 2: into this half tied after being outplayed for most of

2556
02:10:27,720 --> 02:10:31,680
Speaker 2: the half, I'm sure John Harbow would have plenty to

2557
02:10:31,680 --> 02:10:33,400
Speaker 2: say to get his team ready for the second half

2558
02:10:33,440 --> 02:10:36,280
Speaker 2: of this game. So what it looked like at times

2559
02:10:36,280 --> 02:10:39,800
Speaker 2: like the Chiefs, especially after the fumble recovery, right, yeah,

2560
02:10:39,840 --> 02:10:42,800
Speaker 2: and he had the short field. You're up seven and

2561
02:10:43,280 --> 02:10:45,560
Speaker 2: then you get down to the twelve yard line, fourth

2562
02:10:45,560 --> 02:10:47,440
Speaker 2: and won, and you run the ball up the middle

2563
02:10:47,480 --> 02:10:51,760
Speaker 2: and go no game. Yeah, So let's see what the

2564
02:10:51,800 --> 02:10:55,000
Speaker 2: Ravens do on this drive right now. Again, some of

2565
02:10:55,000 --> 02:10:57,760
Speaker 2: the numbers so far in this game. Lamar Jackson just

2566
02:10:57,840 --> 02:11:00,520
Speaker 2: four of nine passing for sixty one yards. That includes

2567
02:11:00,560 --> 02:11:05,880
Speaker 2: a thirteen yard reception by himself. Yeah, well, okay, Mark

2568
02:11:05,920 --> 02:11:08,640
Speaker 2: Anders has one catch for nine yards. Zave Flowers two

2569
02:11:08,680 --> 02:11:11,560
Speaker 2: catches for thirty nine yards. There was the thirty yard touchdown.

2570
02:11:11,840 --> 02:11:14,720
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson is also doing it in the running game

2571
02:11:14,760 --> 02:11:18,680
Speaker 2: three carries for twenty eight yards. Where's Edwards he had

2572
02:11:18,720 --> 02:11:20,480
Speaker 2: one carry for fifteen yards?

2573
02:11:20,840 --> 02:11:23,960
Speaker 3: How's he had no more carries in this game? Where?

2574
02:11:24,040 --> 02:11:25,600
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm trying to figure this out.

2575
02:11:25,640 --> 02:11:28,760
Speaker 2: I know that again they've only had eighteen plays, But

2576
02:11:29,480 --> 02:11:32,720
Speaker 2: why aren't the Ravens running the ball more in this game?

2577
02:11:33,080 --> 02:11:33,280
Speaker 4: Yeah?

2578
02:11:33,320 --> 02:11:34,840
Speaker 1: I'm a little confused too.

2579
02:11:35,120 --> 02:11:37,880
Speaker 4: Now. I know, obviously with Todd mounkn this is a

2580
02:11:37,960 --> 02:11:41,680
Speaker 4: very different looking Ravens team. They're more pass centric than

2581
02:11:41,720 --> 02:11:45,440
Speaker 4: they've ever been. But still, even this season, their bread

2582
02:11:45,520 --> 02:11:47,840
Speaker 4: and butter is how they've been able to lean on

2583
02:11:48,000 --> 02:11:51,800
Speaker 4: opponents in the run game. They just they've been non

2584
02:11:51,800 --> 02:11:54,240
Speaker 4: existent from that offensive standpoint.

2585
02:11:54,360 --> 02:11:57,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, so again another short pass here to get this

2586
02:11:57,400 --> 02:12:01,040
Speaker 2: drive started. Six yard pass to life right there. So

2587
02:12:01,120 --> 02:12:04,480
Speaker 2: the Raven's in a great position right now. Time wise,

2588
02:12:04,520 --> 02:12:08,720
Speaker 2: we've hit the two minute warning. But they yeah, I

2589
02:12:08,760 --> 02:12:10,920
Speaker 2: mean they if they can get even if you just

2590
02:12:10,960 --> 02:12:13,680
Speaker 2: get points. And obviously they have a seven time Pro

2591
02:12:13,760 --> 02:12:16,800
Speaker 2: Bowl kicker. Sometimes you forget about that with Tucker, right,

2592
02:12:16,880 --> 02:12:19,400
Speaker 2: you know, that's a little bit of a weapon there.

2593
02:12:20,680 --> 02:12:22,760
Speaker 1: Pregame with justin Tucker funny moment.

2594
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Speaker 4: So he was set up on the chief side of

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Speaker 4: the field, which that's not unique when you're setting up

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Speaker 4: to kick some field goals from both ends of the field.

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Speaker 4: Kickers and punters both are allowed to do that to

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Speaker 4: sort of test out the grass and you know, the

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Speaker 4: wind and things like that. So you know, the Chiefs kicker,

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Speaker 4: I'm sure was on the Baltimore side of the field

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Speaker 4: as well at different points during preseason or pregame warmups.

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Speaker 4: But Justin Tucker was camped out with his gear right

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Speaker 4: on the Chiefs like two yard line, right where Kelsey

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Speaker 4: and Mahomes and the offense was warming up throwing some

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Speaker 4: passes out to the sideline, and Justin Tucker knew exactly

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Speaker 4: what he was doing. He had his helmet, a couple

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Speaker 4: of his kicking balls, and his kicking tee in the

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Speaker 4: way of Mahomes and the offense, and so Kelsey walked over,

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Speaker 4: grabbed his gear and chucked it, just chucked it down

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Speaker 4: and it was rolling in the end zone and they

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Speaker 4: exchanged some words. But it's so funny. There was a

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Speaker 4: lot of people on there like, oh, Travis is a

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Speaker 4: bully and Mahomes and.

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Speaker 1: All this stuff. Meanwhile, I'm like, Justin Tucker knew exactly

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Speaker 1: what he was doing.

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Speaker 4: He was trying to irritate them, and that's exactly what

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Speaker 4: he did.

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Speaker 2: I've had this interesting one play forty seven seconds and

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Speaker 2: they purposely ran that clock down to the two minute warning.

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Speaker 2: All right, we continue our coverage of this AFC Championship game.

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Speaker 1: Keep it here.

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Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Red Zone Radio, Steve Hartman, Chronberger,

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Red Zone Radio. We're live from the tai

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Speaker 2: Iraq dot Com studios. The Ravens have a problem right now,

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Speaker 2: and it's Lamar Jackson throwing the football. Yep, he's five

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Speaker 2: of twelve sixty seven yards. I remember one of those

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Speaker 2: completions was to himself on a tip ball, So you

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02:14:05,480 --> 02:14:09,640
Speaker 2: throw that one out four for eleven passing. And on

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Speaker 2: this drive again, they were afforded great field position near midfield,

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Speaker 2: and on a third and short, he just threw a

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02:14:16,880 --> 02:14:20,760
Speaker 2: bad pass, like he overthrew a receiver in the flat.

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Speaker 2: That was just a bad pass. Yeah, and when you

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02:14:25,720 --> 02:14:29,000
Speaker 2: got Mahomes on the other side of the field, you

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02:14:29,080 --> 02:14:31,880
Speaker 2: got to do better than that. Lamar Jackson throwing the

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02:14:31,920 --> 02:14:35,120
Speaker 2: football in this game, outside of that one bomb to

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Speaker 2: Zay Flowers has been completely ineffective.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Look, this has been a problem for Lamar Jackson throughout

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Speaker 4: the course of his career against the better defenses who

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Speaker 4: know how to play Lamar Jackson, and in the AFC

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Speaker 4: he runs into a lot more teams who know how

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02:14:55,400 --> 02:14:57,440
Speaker 4: to play against him. If you look at his record

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Speaker 4: against NFC teams versus those in the same division as Lamar,

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Speaker 4: those obviously in the same conference as well, it's a

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Speaker 4: lot different, you know. So the Chiefs they've had to

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02:15:09,880 --> 02:15:12,040
Speaker 4: prepare for Lamar in the past. And what's the best

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Speaker 4: way to prepare for Lamar. Well, load up the middle

2648
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Speaker 4: of the field, stop the run if you can, and

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02:15:17,960 --> 02:15:20,920
Speaker 4: that sometimes that's just impossible because he's that special of

2650
02:15:21,000 --> 02:15:24,720
Speaker 4: a rusher and that that offense is pretty special at

2651
02:15:24,760 --> 02:15:27,360
Speaker 4: running the football. But if you can slow down the

2652
02:15:27,440 --> 02:15:29,360
Speaker 4: run game and you can get a lead, which the

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Speaker 4: Chiefs have, which is important too, because you got to

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02:15:31,400 --> 02:15:34,600
Speaker 4: play complimentary football and the offense is doing what they're

2655
02:15:34,600 --> 02:15:38,760
Speaker 4: supposed to do for Kansas City, well, then it forces

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Speaker 4: the Ravens to throw the football. And if you guard

2657
02:15:43,040 --> 02:15:46,680
Speaker 4: between the hash marks and you force Lamar Jackson to

2658
02:15:46,800 --> 02:15:50,080
Speaker 4: try to make plays in the passing game out toward

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02:15:50,160 --> 02:15:54,640
Speaker 4: the sideline, that's where his ineffectiveness is he's not a

2660
02:15:54,680 --> 02:15:57,760
Speaker 4: strong passer down the field to the sideline.

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Speaker 1: That's what we're seeing in this game.

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Speaker 3: By the way, Kansas City.

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Speaker 2: He does not have a twenty yard completion in this

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Speaker 2: first half, so they're not throwing the ball. The longest

2665
02:16:05,000 --> 02:16:08,000
Speaker 2: completion in this game was that opening touchdown by Kelsey

2666
02:16:08,120 --> 02:16:11,160
Speaker 2: nineteen yards, So they've been dinking and dunking all over

2667
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Speaker 2: the place. Mahomes has seventeen completions, but he only has

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Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty five yards passing in this game.

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Speaker 2: So the Baltimore defense is hanging in. But again for

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Speaker 2: Baltimore's offense, first half, five first downs, one hundred and

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Speaker 2: eleven total yards, that is just not going to.

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Speaker 3: Get it done.

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Speaker 2: They're going to have to come up with a new

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02:16:29,880 --> 02:16:33,440
Speaker 2: game plan in the second half. Meanwhile, the Ravens are

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Speaker 2: making some just dumb places. Did they call another? First

2676
02:16:37,760 --> 02:16:39,880
Speaker 2: of all, they had van Noy and so they have

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02:16:40,000 --> 02:16:42,000
Speaker 2: the ball in their own like eleven yard line to

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02:16:42,000 --> 02:16:45,160
Speaker 2: start this drive after the punt, and then Vanoi got

2679
02:16:45,160 --> 02:16:49,800
Speaker 2: called for a unnecessary roughness penalty and now they just

2680
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Speaker 2: had a.

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Speaker 3: Roughing the passer.

2682
02:16:51,720 --> 02:16:55,440
Speaker 2: This is two personal foul on the Ravens on this drive,

2683
02:16:55,520 --> 02:16:58,480
Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, the Chiefs, with three timeouts,

2684
02:16:58,520 --> 02:17:00,000
Speaker 2: still are almost to midfield.

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Speaker 4: Well it's getting a little chippy, and here's why the

2686
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Speaker 4: Ravens are getting frustrated. And so Mahomes trying to climb

2687
02:17:06,959 --> 02:17:11,520
Speaker 4: the pocket on this second down pass, gets clobbered after

2688
02:17:11,600 --> 02:17:13,520
Speaker 4: he let the football go, or really it might have

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Speaker 4: been while he was letting go of the.

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Speaker 3: Football, shot to the helmet.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you're just not allowed to hit a quarterback

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Speaker 4: in that area. And that's it's not a new rule.

2693
02:17:22,240 --> 02:17:24,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're not supposed to anybody in the face. And

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Speaker 2: it was blatant. It was an easy call. So thirty

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02:17:27,120 --> 02:17:31,879
Speaker 2: of the yards on this drive had been two roughing

2696
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Speaker 2: penn On personal fouls against the Ravens. So again, the

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Speaker 2: Chiefs still have three timeouts, remaining forty three seconds to

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Speaker 2: go in the half. They're exactly at midfield with a

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Speaker 2: second and seven. So we were talking about the Ravens

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Speaker 2: getting back in this game, and there's a wide open

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Speaker 2: Travis Kelcey, and this is the question I always have,

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02:17:51,160 --> 02:17:54,480
Speaker 2: how is he always wide open? That's eight targets, eight

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02:17:54,560 --> 02:17:56,600
Speaker 2: receptions for Travis Kelcey in this game.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean it's it's twofold.

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Speaker 2: Think a defense says, we got to watch Kelsey. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you would think that, and nobody covered him. It's twofold.

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Speaker 4: It's it's he's wide open because he's a talented route

2708
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Speaker 4: runner and you know, many of the things we already know.

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Speaker 4: But also he's wide open because Andy Reid schemes it

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Speaker 4: that way. You know, he makes sure that Travis Kelcey

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Speaker 4: is the player that you target that time working against zone,

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Speaker 4: and there were complimentary routes around Travis Kelcey that were

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Speaker 4: drawing coverage and he was able to sit down in

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Speaker 4: the bubble in the zone deep downfield and catch that football.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Kelsey eight catches. He's already passed Jerry Rice during

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Speaker 2: this game as the player with most receptions in Playoff history.

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Speaker 3: Unbelievable wide receiver, tight end doesn't matter. I mean, what

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Speaker 3: a career he has already number.

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Speaker 2: One all time, made his ninth Pro Bowl this year,

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Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, the Chiefs are in prime territory.

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Speaker 2: They just called the time out, but they are at

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Speaker 2: the twenty nine yard line of the Ravens and this

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Speaker 2: is where the Chiefs can I'll put it this way,

2724
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Speaker 2: they get it into the end zone on this drive,

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Speaker 2: it's over.

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Speaker 4: Well listen, I mean, I mean, you go.

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Speaker 2: Down twenty one to seven and a half time to

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Speaker 2: Mahomes and the Chiefs. The way the Ravens' offense is

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Speaker 2: sputtering right now, forget it not going to happen.

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Speaker 4: And that was another completion for about a six yard

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Speaker 4: game to Rashi rice Out, who.

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Speaker 3: By the way, has six catches in this game as well.

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Speaker 4: And so you look at this and you just think, well, okay, well,

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Speaker 4: I mean they're they're in field goal range, so at

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Speaker 4: very least it's going to be a ten point ten

2736
02:19:34,840 --> 02:19:39,800
Speaker 4: point game here heading in at halftime, and they've got

2737
02:19:39,840 --> 02:19:42,440
Speaker 4: time to strike at the end zone before they trot

2738
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Speaker 4: out their kickers.

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Speaker 1: So this is I mean, this.

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Speaker 3: Is second and four is the time to go to

2741
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Speaker 3: the end zone.

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Speaker 1: Crunch time for true Gray.

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02:19:50,200 --> 02:19:53,440
Speaker 3: On that one. Oh all right, so that passed there.

2744
02:19:53,440 --> 02:19:56,000
Speaker 2: But anyway, all right, now third and four and again

2745
02:19:56,040 --> 02:19:59,520
Speaker 2: for the Ravens. Man, if you can hold into a

2746
02:19:59,520 --> 02:20:04,160
Speaker 2: field goal here, seventeen to seven is a lot easier

2747
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Speaker 2: than twenty one seven.

2748
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Speaker 4: Still, I mean, this is exactly what we were talking

2749
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Speaker 4: about prior to this game, Steve, and I said it

2750
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Speaker 4: to you before this game kicked off. The one thing

2751
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Speaker 4: the Ravens cannot do at any point is trail because

2752
02:20:17,240 --> 02:20:21,400
Speaker 4: they're just not built for a comeback. And the excuse me,

2753
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Speaker 4: the Patrick Mahomes Chiefs. They can hold on to a lead.

2754
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Speaker 4: We've seen that many times before. So this is a

2755
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Speaker 4: rock in the hard place for the Ravens.

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Speaker 3: You look at Mahomes takeoff for a first down. There

2757
02:20:34,280 --> 02:20:36,760
Speaker 3: you go, that's what he does. There's a penalty, wo

2758
02:20:36,600 --> 02:20:37,520
Speaker 3: wo wo penalty.

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02:20:37,600 --> 02:20:40,080
Speaker 4: Yep, yep. Too many problems on the field though at once.

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Speaker 2: For there's gonna be a holding on this one. That's

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Speaker 2: gonna call this one back. Yeah, yeah, there's a hold,

2762
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Speaker 2: all right, Well that's going to make it now third

2763
02:20:47,320 --> 02:20:51,280
Speaker 2: and fourteen yard line, third and fourteen at the thirty

2764
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Speaker 2: three yard line, which is a fifty yard field goal attempt.

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Speaker 3: So all of a.

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Speaker 1: Sudden, twenty seconds left.

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Speaker 3: And by the way, was that their usual Is that

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Speaker 3: Smith again?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Right guard?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a well listen, I mean,

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Speaker 4: Baltimore is getting paid to like and they have a

2773
02:21:10,280 --> 02:21:13,720
Speaker 4: top defense in the NFL. This is this is a

2774
02:21:13,800 --> 02:21:17,480
Speaker 4: difficult group to pass protect against. And so there's gonna

2775
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Speaker 4: be these moments. It wasn't an insane hold. It more

2776
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Speaker 4: looked like as the defensive tackle was bending towards Mahomes,

2777
02:21:27,320 --> 02:21:31,760
Speaker 4: he was trying to push him past Mahomes. And so listen,

2778
02:21:32,480 --> 02:21:35,400
Speaker 4: that's that's one of the key points of this game. Also,

2779
02:21:35,480 --> 02:21:39,280
Speaker 4: this crew who's officiating this game, they've called the least

2780
02:21:39,360 --> 02:21:40,039
Speaker 4: number of holding.

2781
02:21:40,280 --> 02:21:44,480
Speaker 2: No, no, look at this to rise another flag, another

2782
02:21:44,600 --> 02:21:45,320
Speaker 2: flag though.

2783
02:21:46,080 --> 02:21:48,960
Speaker 3: Gonna short pass all that's gonna be another hold.

2784
02:21:49,320 --> 02:21:51,120
Speaker 1: That's gonna be another hole. Did you see the line

2785
02:21:51,120 --> 02:21:53,360
Speaker 1: of scrimmage, same exact thing.

2786
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Speaker 3: It's the same guy.

2787
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Speaker 1: It's Trey Smith, the right guard again.

2788
02:21:57,280 --> 02:22:00,360
Speaker 2: So Trey Smith on back to back plays, this would

2789
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Speaker 2: have been a Chiefs touchdown.

2790
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Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, back.

2791
02:22:03,480 --> 02:22:05,520
Speaker 3: To back plays he gets called for holding.

2792
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Speaker 4: Trey Smith has accounted for twenty yards of lost offense.

2793
02:22:11,160 --> 02:22:13,600
Speaker 4: It takes them out of field goal range and a

2794
02:22:13,800 --> 02:22:19,240
Speaker 4: touchdown is nullified. Oh my goodness, that is the worst

2795
02:22:19,320 --> 02:22:22,400
Speaker 4: stretch we've seen in a long time in the postseason.

2796
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Speaker 3: For the rest of the time I'm watching this. You're

2797
02:22:24,240 --> 02:22:26,000
Speaker 3: a former guard. Look at this play.

2798
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Speaker 1: What are you doing?

2799
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Speaker 3: That's a hold? He tackled him. I mean, that was

2800
02:22:30,320 --> 02:22:32,440
Speaker 3: so blatant. I mean, you got it. You can't just

2801
02:22:32,480 --> 02:22:34,680
Speaker 3: grab a guy, bear, hug him and swing him.

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Speaker 4: Well, what they were doing on this play was setting

2803
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Speaker 4: up the screen.

2804
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Speaker 1: So watch what he was doing.

2805
02:22:40,240 --> 02:22:44,720
Speaker 4: He was trying to step down influence his defensive tackle upfield,

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Speaker 4: and he's allowing him to ruch Mahomes because he knows

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Speaker 4: it's a quick screen. And the reason why he was

2808
02:22:49,720 --> 02:22:53,000
Speaker 4: looking back toward the quarterback is because your job when

2809
02:22:53,000 --> 02:22:55,240
Speaker 4: you're the third man out on the screen is you're

2810
02:22:55,280 --> 02:22:57,560
Speaker 4: called the rat killer. You try to you try to

2811
02:22:57,600 --> 02:23:00,880
Speaker 4: hit anybody who's trying to chase down the screen from behind.

2812
02:23:01,200 --> 02:23:04,560
Speaker 4: And so that's what Tray Smith's responsibility on that play was.

2813
02:23:05,040 --> 02:23:08,360
Speaker 4: But as he was trying to wheel around and just

2814
02:23:08,560 --> 02:23:12,000
Speaker 4: influence his defensive tackle up field, he got called for

2815
02:23:12,080 --> 02:23:14,680
Speaker 4: the hold and negated a touchdown.

2816
02:23:14,800 --> 02:23:18,480
Speaker 2: Pass home Man telling him the Ravens are hanging in

2817
02:23:18,520 --> 02:23:20,959
Speaker 2: all right, third and twenty four now they start.

2818
02:23:20,760 --> 02:23:24,920
Speaker 4: Hanging in the Chiefs are absolutely screwing up this drive.

2819
02:23:25,240 --> 02:23:27,119
Speaker 3: Let's find out what's trending right now.

2820
02:23:27,400 --> 02:23:30,400
Speaker 2: Let's find out as Nick Cope's watching this, I'm watching

2821
02:23:30,480 --> 02:23:32,879
Speaker 2: Nick because he keeps throwing the flag he's getting.

2822
02:23:32,720 --> 02:23:34,679
Speaker 5: Me telling you're getting excited.

2823
02:23:36,480 --> 02:23:36,760
Speaker 1: Line.

2824
02:23:36,840 --> 02:23:39,400
Speaker 5: I'm like, no, it's coming back. I'm making the flag.

2825
02:23:39,080 --> 02:23:41,360
Speaker 3: Motions like Smith is on the field.

2826
02:23:41,440 --> 02:23:43,640
Speaker 1: It's almost like you're seeing into the future.

2827
02:23:44,000 --> 02:23:46,520
Speaker 9: No, no, no, I'm not. I was literally just watching

2828
02:23:46,560 --> 02:23:48,720
Speaker 9: the game. CBS has been on it. They had that

2829
02:23:48,800 --> 02:23:51,920
Speaker 9: little flag graphic right away, and Steve's getting excited.

2830
02:23:51,920 --> 02:23:55,000
Speaker 3: I'm like, come on, all right, we got that right now,

2831
02:23:55,120 --> 02:23:57,879
Speaker 3: and it's a short pass to Kelsey. That play for

2832
02:23:57,920 --> 02:24:00,200
Speaker 3: the field, it's like a fifty one yard field goal

2833
02:24:00,280 --> 02:24:01,039
Speaker 3: attempt coming out.

2834
02:24:01,240 --> 02:24:03,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, so we'll see if they can make that.

2835
02:24:03,560 --> 02:24:06,520
Speaker 9: But defenses have made their adjustments here on the second

2836
02:24:06,600 --> 02:24:09,200
Speaker 9: quarter after it was all about the offenses for the

2837
02:24:09,240 --> 02:24:13,120
Speaker 9: first quarter and change. I'm curious to get Rich's thoughts.

2838
02:24:13,200 --> 02:24:14,840
Speaker 9: Why isn't Baltimore running the football?

2839
02:24:15,320 --> 02:24:15,920
Speaker 5: I mean, they're just.

2840
02:24:16,440 --> 02:24:18,840
Speaker 2: Sad that earlier I said, where is their running gig

2841
02:24:18,879 --> 02:24:21,800
Speaker 2: Gus Edwards for Gus Edwards.

2842
02:24:21,879 --> 02:24:25,000
Speaker 9: Hill's got three even even let Lamar run it more.

2843
02:24:24,840 --> 02:24:26,080
Speaker 9: He's got three attempts.

2844
02:24:26,080 --> 02:24:26,560
Speaker 5: They have eight.

2845
02:24:27,560 --> 02:24:28,680
Speaker 1: I don't I don't.

2846
02:24:28,800 --> 02:24:31,520
Speaker 4: I don't understand why they're getting away from it all together.

2847
02:24:31,680 --> 02:24:35,720
Speaker 4: Although I will say this, if you think about how quickly.

2848
02:24:35,840 --> 02:24:38,120
Speaker 4: The Chiefs went down the field on whatever it was,

2849
02:24:38,160 --> 02:24:40,560
Speaker 4: a teen play drive to score on that opening drive,

2850
02:24:40,600 --> 02:24:43,880
Speaker 4: and they were down seven points immediately. I think panic

2851
02:24:43,959 --> 02:24:48,119
Speaker 4: mode set in for Todd Munkin and this offensive staff.

2852
02:24:47,879 --> 02:24:53,760
Speaker 2: Well exactly the whole game ahead. I know, I don't

2853
02:24:53,760 --> 02:24:56,080
Speaker 2: get it. I don't get but a lot. I'm telling you, Nick,

2854
02:24:56,120 --> 02:24:57,640
Speaker 2: I've been in these games, yep.

2855
02:24:57,720 --> 02:25:02,280
Speaker 4: And I've I've seen offensive coordinator completely lose bearing on

2856
02:25:02,360 --> 02:25:04,920
Speaker 4: the game script because all of a sudden you're trailing

2857
02:25:04,920 --> 02:25:06,520
Speaker 4: and they feel like, well, the only way we're gonna

2858
02:25:06,520 --> 02:25:08,000
Speaker 4: be able to keep up is if we get the

2859
02:25:08,000 --> 02:25:10,279
Speaker 4: ball down the field. And it's like, no, no, no, let's

2860
02:25:10,320 --> 02:25:13,760
Speaker 4: just concentrate him on what we do best. Yeah.

2861
02:25:13,800 --> 02:25:16,120
Speaker 3: Now, fucker just kepped a fifty two yard field.

2862
02:25:16,240 --> 02:25:17,959
Speaker 9: Yeah he made it. So it's seventeen to seven. They

2863
02:25:18,000 --> 02:25:19,959
Speaker 9: still got four seconds left in the second quarter. So

2864
02:25:20,000 --> 02:25:23,320
Speaker 9: let's see if Kansas City can execute the middle eight,

2865
02:25:23,560 --> 02:25:25,440
Speaker 9: which I love keeping an eye on in these games,

2866
02:25:25,440 --> 02:25:27,440
Speaker 9: because they're gonna get the ball coming out of halftime.

2867
02:25:27,959 --> 02:25:31,080
Speaker 9: They could really make this game dicey for the Ravens.

2868
02:25:31,080 --> 02:25:32,840
Speaker 9: So I got a moment just some of the numbers

2869
02:25:32,879 --> 02:25:35,920
Speaker 9: Mahomes has been very strong, twenty of twenty five bucks,

2870
02:25:36,000 --> 02:25:39,960
Speaker 9: sixty one and a touchdown. Pacheco hasn't been as effective

2871
02:25:40,000 --> 02:25:43,039
Speaker 9: as he was at the start. Total numbers fourteen carries,

2872
02:25:43,080 --> 02:25:45,600
Speaker 9: forty one yards and a touchdown. Mahomes by the way,

2873
02:25:45,640 --> 02:25:48,640
Speaker 9: eighteen yards on three carries. On the ground, Travis Kelcey's

2874
02:25:48,680 --> 02:25:52,080
Speaker 9: been a stud nine targets, nine receptions, ninety six yards

2875
02:25:52,080 --> 02:25:55,160
Speaker 9: and a touchdown. Rice also has six catches for forty

2876
02:25:55,200 --> 02:25:57,879
Speaker 9: one yards. On the other side, Lamar Jackson, you guys

2877
02:25:57,879 --> 02:26:00,800
Speaker 9: were talking about it earlier, but he's just five of twelve,

2878
02:26:01,040 --> 02:26:03,640
Speaker 9: and one of those five was to himself sixty seven

2879
02:26:03,720 --> 02:26:06,879
Speaker 9: yards and a touchdown. Zave Flowers with two catches thirty

2880
02:26:06,959 --> 02:26:09,880
Speaker 9: nine yards in a score, and not much going on

2881
02:26:09,920 --> 02:26:10,760
Speaker 9: the ground.

2882
02:26:10,400 --> 02:26:11,320
Speaker 3: For Baltimore at all.

2883
02:26:11,360 --> 02:26:14,840
Speaker 9: Gus Edwards fifteen yards, and their secondary running back Hill

2884
02:26:14,920 --> 02:26:19,080
Speaker 9: He's got just three yards on three carries. And we've

2885
02:26:19,120 --> 02:26:23,360
Speaker 9: got the NFC Championship game still to come. That'll be

2886
02:26:23,440 --> 02:26:26,440
Speaker 9: at six thirty eastern from Santa Clair. The forty nine

2887
02:26:26,520 --> 02:26:28,760
Speaker 9: ers and the lines looks like everybody's going to be

2888
02:26:28,840 --> 02:26:32,720
Speaker 9: healthy for that game. College basketball Number one Yukon and

2889
02:26:32,840 --> 02:26:36,440
Speaker 9: number two Perdue both picked up wins. And then finally

2890
02:26:36,560 --> 02:26:38,960
Speaker 9: one more word in the NFL. Guys, former Falcons coach

2891
02:26:39,080 --> 02:26:43,480
Speaker 9: Arthur Smith interviewed for the Steelers offensive coordinator job today.

2892
02:26:43,600 --> 02:26:44,440
Speaker 3: Back to you guys.

2893
02:26:44,680 --> 02:26:47,320
Speaker 2: All right, Nick, thank you very much. Once again, this

2894
02:26:47,440 --> 02:26:51,440
Speaker 2: is Fox Sports Red Zone Radio. All right, halftime now

2895
02:26:51,600 --> 02:26:56,040
Speaker 2: officially seventeen to seven. The Chiefs lead the Baltimore Ravens.

2896
02:26:56,080 --> 02:26:58,440
Speaker 2: And again time of possession of this first half twenty

2897
02:26:58,480 --> 02:27:01,280
Speaker 2: one minutes for the Chiefs, nine for the Ravens.

2898
02:27:01,280 --> 02:27:04,040
Speaker 3: There's a difference there, you know, listen, I know, three

2899
02:27:04,080 --> 02:27:05,760
Speaker 3: offensive plays to twenty two.

2900
02:27:06,040 --> 02:27:11,080
Speaker 4: I know it's a it's a championship game, and I

2901
02:27:11,120 --> 02:27:14,760
Speaker 4: know everybody gets a little bit tighter, and you know,

2902
02:27:14,879 --> 02:27:18,720
Speaker 4: it's it's all things aren't equal. This isn't the regular season.

2903
02:27:18,840 --> 02:27:21,600
Speaker 4: It's win or go home time. And I totally get it.

2904
02:27:22,040 --> 02:27:25,240
Speaker 4: But when you look at the total plays ran like

2905
02:27:25,280 --> 02:27:29,880
Speaker 4: you mentioned, twenty two total plays, and you start thinking

2906
02:27:29,879 --> 02:27:34,840
Speaker 4: about how many of those plays were designated to running

2907
02:27:34,879 --> 02:27:38,040
Speaker 4: the football for the Ravens, I mean less than half.

2908
02:27:38,360 --> 02:27:40,920
Speaker 4: That's not who they are. That's not who they are

2909
02:27:41,040 --> 02:27:44,400
Speaker 4: at all. Like, it just doesn't it doesn't really add up.

2910
02:27:44,440 --> 02:27:49,000
Speaker 4: I mean, I and also with the ineffectiveness of the

2911
02:27:49,040 --> 02:27:52,000
Speaker 4: passing game. I don't know how at some point you

2912
02:27:52,040 --> 02:27:54,760
Speaker 4: don't get back to it and say like, hey, you know,

2913
02:27:55,120 --> 02:27:58,000
Speaker 4: we know who we are, and we know that the

2914
02:27:58,120 --> 02:28:01,440
Speaker 4: Chiefs know who we are. Let's make the Chiefs stop

2915
02:28:01,520 --> 02:28:05,640
Speaker 4: us before we turn into some you know, high flying

2916
02:28:05,680 --> 02:28:08,960
Speaker 4: passing team, which that's not the Ravens. They are more

2917
02:28:09,000 --> 02:28:12,680
Speaker 4: balanced team than the Chiefs are, and so far the Chiefs,

2918
02:28:12,959 --> 02:28:15,480
Speaker 4: I mean they're the ones doing the balancing act. I

2919
02:28:15,520 --> 02:28:17,360
Speaker 4: mean they've thrown the ball more now down the end

2920
02:28:17,360 --> 02:28:20,200
Speaker 4: of the half because they were trying to get down

2921
02:28:20,280 --> 02:28:22,440
Speaker 4: the Ravens side of the field with the penalties and everything.

2922
02:28:22,480 --> 02:28:25,119
Speaker 4: So they threw the ball twenty five times to eighteen.

2923
02:28:25,200 --> 02:28:28,800
Speaker 4: But my goodness, they abandoned I'm talking about Baltimore now,

2924
02:28:28,879 --> 02:28:30,720
Speaker 4: they've completely abandoned the run game.

2925
02:28:30,800 --> 02:28:33,640
Speaker 2: Well, when you look at the numbers, first down sixteen

2926
02:28:33,680 --> 02:28:37,080
Speaker 2: to five, KC total yards two twenty one to one,

2927
02:28:37,240 --> 02:28:40,959
Speaker 2: ten plays forty three to twenty two, time of possession

2928
02:28:41,280 --> 02:28:44,920
Speaker 2: twenty one minutes to nine, and still the Ravens are

2929
02:28:44,920 --> 02:28:47,959
Speaker 2: only down ten. I mean you look at those numbers,

2930
02:28:48,000 --> 02:28:51,680
Speaker 2: you're thinking, what twenty one a halftime? I mean it

2931
02:28:51,680 --> 02:28:54,360
Speaker 2: would be a zero, but they did get the one

2932
02:28:54,400 --> 02:28:57,360
Speaker 2: big play off the scramble by Jackson to Ze Flowers

2933
02:28:57,360 --> 02:29:01,120
Speaker 2: for the thirty yard touchdown. Gona be very interested. And

2934
02:29:01,160 --> 02:29:02,880
Speaker 2: by the way, Chiefs get the ball first in the

2935
02:29:02,920 --> 02:29:06,320
Speaker 2: second half. Yeah, remember the Ravens open up. I mean,

2936
02:29:06,360 --> 02:29:08,440
Speaker 2: they've got to get it stopped. They got to get

2937
02:29:08,440 --> 02:29:12,160
Speaker 2: a turnover, they got to get something going here. Travis

2938
02:29:12,240 --> 02:29:15,320
Speaker 2: Kelsey putting on a show for his girlfriend. She's there

2939
02:29:15,480 --> 02:29:18,640
Speaker 2: and she could not be happier. Nine catches, ninety six

2940
02:29:18,720 --> 02:29:22,320
Speaker 2: yards in a score. He's been targeted nine times, so

2941
02:29:22,520 --> 02:29:25,560
Speaker 2: every time he's been targeted, he has caught the ball.

2942
02:29:25,680 --> 02:29:29,320
Speaker 2: And Kelsey just putting on another Hall of Fame performance.

2943
02:29:29,400 --> 02:29:31,920
Speaker 2: So it'd be very interested in the second half to

2944
02:29:31,920 --> 02:29:34,279
Speaker 2: see if the Ravens can come up with any answers.

2945
02:29:34,720 --> 02:29:38,400
Speaker 3: But offensively, it has to start with a running game.

2946
02:29:38,400 --> 02:29:40,160
Speaker 2: They need to get a stop of the Chiefs on

2947
02:29:40,200 --> 02:29:42,160
Speaker 2: that opening drive, and I mean a quick stop. They

2948
02:29:42,160 --> 02:29:44,840
Speaker 2: can't let the Chiefs run off five or six minutes

2949
02:29:44,879 --> 02:29:45,680
Speaker 2: of the third quarter.

2950
02:29:45,959 --> 02:29:48,440
Speaker 3: That's just not working. And they've got to get a

2951
02:29:48,520 --> 02:29:49,520
Speaker 3: running game going here.

2952
02:29:49,560 --> 02:29:52,320
Speaker 2: And again right on that, you remember that they got

2953
02:29:52,320 --> 02:29:55,440
Speaker 2: the twenty one yard keeper on that fourth and one

2954
02:29:55,520 --> 02:29:58,160
Speaker 2: huge call there, and then they hand the ball to

2955
02:29:58,280 --> 02:29:59,920
Speaker 2: Edwards and he runs for fifteen yards.

2956
02:30:00,280 --> 02:30:04,200
Speaker 3: That's his only carry of the game. Yeah, that just

2957
02:30:04,200 --> 02:30:05,160
Speaker 3: doesn't make any sense.

2958
02:30:05,160 --> 02:30:05,440
Speaker 1: All Right.

2959
02:30:05,480 --> 02:30:07,840
Speaker 2: We got some time here at half to take a

2960
02:30:07,840 --> 02:30:11,039
Speaker 2: look ahead here, and I want to get I want

2961
02:30:11,040 --> 02:30:12,720
Speaker 2: to get our resident Lions fan.

2962
02:30:12,640 --> 02:30:13,879
Speaker 3: Chris in here for a second.

2963
02:30:13,920 --> 02:30:16,320
Speaker 2: Here at Chris as we get ready for the NFC

2964
02:30:16,440 --> 02:30:21,160
Speaker 2: Championship game that is less than two hours away.

2965
02:30:21,560 --> 02:30:21,880
Speaker 3: It is.

2966
02:30:22,480 --> 02:30:24,560
Speaker 2: It's a huge game. By the way goff if he

2967
02:30:24,600 --> 02:30:27,320
Speaker 2: were to win, and by the way he's done it before.

2968
02:30:27,520 --> 02:30:29,760
Speaker 2: Everyone remembers, you know, when he led the Rams of

2969
02:30:29,800 --> 02:30:34,039
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl. They also remember that road win against

2970
02:30:34,080 --> 02:30:36,480
Speaker 2: the Saints in the NFC Championship game. The only thing

2971
02:30:36,520 --> 02:30:38,520
Speaker 2: we ever remember that game was the non call in

2972
02:30:38,560 --> 02:30:39,599
Speaker 2: the pass interference.

2973
02:30:39,920 --> 02:30:41,520
Speaker 3: The fact is GoF has done it.

2974
02:30:41,640 --> 02:30:45,720
Speaker 2: He's won a road playoff game in a conference championship game.

2975
02:30:45,800 --> 02:30:51,599
Speaker 2: So he's been there, done that. He has been very animated,

2976
02:30:51,840 --> 02:30:55,000
Speaker 2: has he not in terms of we feel like we're

2977
02:30:55,000 --> 02:30:56,000
Speaker 2: the best team on the field.

2978
02:30:56,400 --> 02:30:57,039
Speaker 3: I think he is.

2979
02:30:57,520 --> 02:30:59,960
Speaker 6: He's stepping into the role of leader. This is a

2980
02:31:00,080 --> 02:31:02,640
Speaker 6: guy too, that is just ever since he was traded

2981
02:31:02,680 --> 02:31:06,200
Speaker 6: Detroit has been absolutely doubted, and we took the lines

2982
02:31:06,200 --> 02:31:09,840
Speaker 6: from Sean McVay to heart, which Sean McVay since has

2983
02:31:10,120 --> 02:31:13,320
Speaker 6: apologized for and said he wished they could have figured

2984
02:31:13,320 --> 02:31:16,200
Speaker 6: things out differently than that report that had come out

2985
02:31:16,600 --> 02:31:18,160
Speaker 6: when his time was up with the Rams about the

2986
02:31:18,160 --> 02:31:19,080
Speaker 6: breakup McVeigh.

2987
02:31:19,080 --> 02:31:21,680
Speaker 3: But that's followed him his entire career. Well, they were

2988
02:31:21,680 --> 02:31:22,640
Speaker 3: desperate to get rid of it.

2989
02:31:22,720 --> 02:31:25,920
Speaker 6: They were desperate. Now every time I've everything I've heard

2990
02:31:25,959 --> 02:31:28,120
Speaker 6: since then has been well, GoF can't play in the

2991
02:31:28,120 --> 02:31:31,440
Speaker 6: big game, the expectations will rise up and swallow golf Goff.

2992
02:31:31,600 --> 02:31:34,360
Speaker 6: Goff shies away from the light. Well, I would think

2993
02:31:34,400 --> 02:31:37,480
Speaker 6: this season, with every game that they've played, every big

2994
02:31:37,480 --> 02:31:39,560
Speaker 6: game that they've had where they've needed him to step up,

2995
02:31:39,600 --> 02:31:41,680
Speaker 6: he's made mistakes, But then he has the memory of

2996
02:31:42,120 --> 02:31:44,320
Speaker 6: a picture out there to go right back out there

2997
02:31:44,320 --> 02:31:48,119
Speaker 6: and not make that same mistake twice. And I don't

2998
02:31:48,120 --> 02:31:49,959
Speaker 6: know what else he needs to do in the playoffs

2999
02:31:50,040 --> 02:31:51,760
Speaker 6: to really show you that he can play on this

3000
02:31:51,840 --> 02:31:54,959
Speaker 6: big stage. He's not afraid of those responsibilities. If we

3001
02:31:55,000 --> 02:31:57,360
Speaker 6: do it again here just because he loses this game,

3002
02:31:57,400 --> 02:31:59,600
Speaker 6: then we're just looking for a way to Bury the guy.

3003
02:31:59,680 --> 02:32:02,920
Speaker 6: But I think, look, there are people, as I said,

3004
02:32:02,920 --> 02:32:05,840
Speaker 6: who are chanting Jared Goff's name across Detroit. I think

3005
02:32:05,879 --> 02:32:08,960
Speaker 6: he's kind of been encouraged to step up and become

3006
02:32:09,120 --> 02:32:11,320
Speaker 6: something of a leader for this team. He wasn't for

3007
02:32:11,360 --> 02:32:14,199
Speaker 6: a long time in Detroit. Even Hard Knocks they shied

3008
02:32:14,240 --> 02:32:17,560
Speaker 6: away from Jared talking a lot about Jared Goff, and

3009
02:32:17,680 --> 02:32:20,400
Speaker 6: Jared Goff's kind of always had this reputation as being

3010
02:32:20,440 --> 02:32:25,160
Speaker 6: the California cool But this season he's ridden the wave.

3011
02:32:25,200 --> 02:32:26,959
Speaker 6: He's been in front of a lot of the press

3012
02:32:27,000 --> 02:32:30,760
Speaker 6: in Detroit a lot of times, and yeah, he's becoming

3013
02:32:30,800 --> 02:32:35,480
Speaker 6: this voice for the Lions at pretty much the right time.

3014
02:32:35,640 --> 02:32:37,920
Speaker 2: Well, think about this, rich, I mean, this is Goff's

3015
02:32:38,200 --> 02:32:39,520
Speaker 2: ninth playoff game.

3016
02:32:39,600 --> 02:32:41,160
Speaker 3: Start yep, yep.

3017
02:32:41,680 --> 02:32:44,920
Speaker 4: I mean this is this quarterback who's appeared in a

3018
02:32:44,959 --> 02:32:48,440
Speaker 4: super Bowl. And to be perfectly honest with you, I

3019
02:32:48,520 --> 02:32:53,600
Speaker 4: know everybody remembers it one way, which is well, Jared

3020
02:32:53,640 --> 02:32:56,600
Speaker 4: Goff wasn't good enough to beat the Patriots. It's like, well, okay,

3021
02:32:56,720 --> 02:32:59,160
Speaker 4: could we slow down for a second. I understand the

3022
02:32:59,160 --> 02:33:03,240
Speaker 4: offense was pretty and that was a defense that was

3023
02:33:03,520 --> 02:33:06,240
Speaker 4: I mean stacked, and they were world beaters, But are

3024
02:33:06,280 --> 02:33:09,240
Speaker 4: we forgetting what Jared Goff and that offense did throughout

3025
02:33:09,280 --> 02:33:14,839
Speaker 4: that RAM season. I mean, Jared Goff played way over expectations,

3026
02:33:14,959 --> 02:33:19,360
Speaker 4: and everybody wanted to credit Sean McVay for reinventing Goff,

3027
02:33:19,920 --> 02:33:23,480
Speaker 4: and you know, Sean McVay and rightfully so took a

3028
02:33:23,480 --> 02:33:26,680
Speaker 4: lot of bows. And then they brought in Stafford in

3029
02:33:26,800 --> 02:33:29,240
Speaker 4: trade and he went and he won a super Bowl

3030
02:33:29,240 --> 02:33:32,640
Speaker 4: in the ensuing season. But now Jared Goff is onto

3031
02:33:33,240 --> 02:33:36,959
Speaker 4: his third or his fourth offensive coordinator with Ben Johnson,

3032
02:33:37,320 --> 02:33:40,280
Speaker 4: and it looks even better than it did with Sean McVay.

3033
02:33:40,800 --> 02:33:42,640
Speaker 4: So it's kind of like what came first, the chicken

3034
02:33:42,720 --> 02:33:45,760
Speaker 4: or the egg? Was Jared Goff a great quarterback who

3035
02:33:45,879 --> 02:33:48,280
Speaker 4: just needed to be paired with a better team, a

3036
02:33:48,280 --> 02:33:51,000
Speaker 4: better coordinator, a better offensive voice in the room for

3037
02:33:51,120 --> 02:33:55,520
Speaker 4: him to finally have success in the league. Or was

3038
02:33:55,560 --> 02:33:57,520
Speaker 4: he lucky enough to be paired with two of the

3039
02:33:57,560 --> 02:34:01,840
Speaker 4: most brilliant minds in the NFL offensively over his past

3040
02:34:01,879 --> 02:34:04,959
Speaker 4: two runs with these coaches, and he's had success as

3041
02:34:05,000 --> 02:34:09,480
Speaker 4: a result of that. I really do believe that certain

3042
02:34:09,560 --> 02:34:15,360
Speaker 4: coaches like Andy Reid, like Bill Walsh. You know, if

3043
02:34:15,360 --> 02:34:18,400
Speaker 4: you want to go back. They innovate and they create

3044
02:34:18,600 --> 02:34:22,920
Speaker 4: offenses that absolutely maximize a player's potential.

3045
02:34:23,400 --> 02:34:25,640
Speaker 1: But you also need to have the quarterback.

3046
02:34:26,120 --> 02:34:29,360
Speaker 4: Like great coaches, we give them a ton of credit,

3047
02:34:29,440 --> 02:34:33,480
Speaker 4: but every single great coach that we talk about on

3048
02:34:33,520 --> 02:34:36,560
Speaker 4: the offensive side of the ball, they're paired with great quarterbacks.

3049
02:34:36,720 --> 02:34:40,160
Speaker 4: So I don't understand the Jared Goff slander. Jared Goff

3050
02:34:40,280 --> 02:34:41,880
Speaker 4: is a very talented quarterback.

3051
02:34:42,000 --> 02:34:45,119
Speaker 2: Let me give you a number on Goff that's impressive.

3052
02:34:45,560 --> 02:34:50,920
Speaker 2: So he has two hundred and sixty seven postseason pass attempts.

3053
02:34:51,040 --> 02:34:53,640
Speaker 2: Mm hmm, he has thrown two interceptions.

3054
02:34:54,160 --> 02:34:55,320
Speaker 1: Careful with the football.

3055
02:34:55,520 --> 02:35:00,200
Speaker 2: Two hundred and sixty seven postseason passing attempts, he is

3056
02:35:00,240 --> 02:35:05,320
Speaker 2: only thrown two interceptions, and in this postseason in two games,

3057
02:35:05,640 --> 02:35:09,960
Speaker 2: he's fifty two out of seventy zero interceptions.

3058
02:35:09,959 --> 02:35:10,240
Speaker 3: All right.

3059
02:35:10,280 --> 02:35:12,720
Speaker 2: Coming up on the other side, our predictions for the

3060
02:35:12,840 --> 02:35:16,840
Speaker 2: NFC Championship Game and our predictions for the second half

3061
02:35:16,840 --> 02:35:20,080
Speaker 2: of the AFC Championship Game. This is Fox Sports Red

3062
02:35:20,160 --> 02:35:23,520
Speaker 2: Zone Radio, Steve Harvey, Rich Oberger, Fox Sports Red Zone

3063
02:35:23,600 --> 02:35:27,480
Speaker 2: Radio live from the TAIRAKA dot Com studios. Wanting to

3064
02:35:27,480 --> 02:35:32,160
Speaker 2: thank the crew today Nick doing a great job boar

3065
02:35:32,280 --> 02:35:36,959
Speaker 2: producer doing a great job, and Chris, well, good luck

3066
02:35:37,040 --> 02:35:38,440
Speaker 2: to you, good luck to you.

3067
02:35:38,560 --> 02:35:40,359
Speaker 3: Almost need to nap before this begins.

3068
02:35:40,680 --> 02:35:44,080
Speaker 1: He's emotionally exhausted. I mean, and it's just after noon.

3069
02:35:44,320 --> 02:35:47,000
Speaker 2: We were just fortunate that the NFC game was not first.

3070
02:35:47,200 --> 02:35:48,280
Speaker 2: Oh forget it.

3071
02:35:48,320 --> 02:35:51,400
Speaker 3: It would have been an absolute mess for us here.

3072
02:35:51,440 --> 02:35:53,960
Speaker 2: By the way, I got a text from a friend

3073
02:35:53,959 --> 02:35:58,160
Speaker 2: of mine who's a big Chiefs fan also happens to

3074
02:35:58,200 --> 02:36:02,760
Speaker 2: be a big Taylor Swift fan, and he said, considering

3075
02:36:02,840 --> 02:36:06,200
Speaker 2: the price tag on the suite that she is in,

3076
02:36:07,560 --> 02:36:08,240
Speaker 2: when't you think.

3077
02:36:08,080 --> 02:36:12,039
Speaker 3: They'd have a little more room? I mean they I don't.

3078
02:36:12,400 --> 02:36:15,360
Speaker 2: Don't they have like a maximum number of people in

3079
02:36:15,440 --> 02:36:19,240
Speaker 2: a suite because that suite which also has By the way,

3080
02:36:19,720 --> 02:36:22,400
Speaker 2: I think mahomes wife's in the same suite, but it's

3081
02:36:22,400 --> 02:36:25,360
Speaker 2: not Kansas City, obviously, they're in Baltimore. But they're just

3082
02:36:25,560 --> 02:36:29,200
Speaker 2: sandwiched in like sardines in that suite.

3083
02:36:29,480 --> 02:36:32,040
Speaker 3: I think that's the problem when you have Taylor Swift.

3084
02:36:32,040 --> 02:36:35,720
Speaker 3: There is she she I don't know if she requires,

3085
02:36:35,760 --> 02:36:38,840
Speaker 3: but she certainly attracts a large entourage.

3086
02:36:38,959 --> 02:36:43,720
Speaker 4: Well that way, as as a celebrity, yeah, which she

3087
02:36:44,040 --> 02:36:44,959
Speaker 4: obviously is.

3088
02:36:45,120 --> 02:36:46,680
Speaker 3: I thought you were talking about yourself.

3089
02:36:46,680 --> 02:36:48,160
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, listen.

3090
02:36:48,600 --> 02:36:50,760
Speaker 3: Hold on, what is it? Can you open up Nick's

3091
02:36:50,920 --> 02:36:51,959
Speaker 3: mike for a second year?

3092
02:36:52,680 --> 02:36:55,000
Speaker 9: Oh no, I was just alluding to the game I

3093
02:36:55,240 --> 02:36:58,240
Speaker 9: put up with you're watching the games. I'm actually watching

3094
02:36:58,320 --> 02:37:00,680
Speaker 9: the game. Oh okay, what do you do?

3095
02:37:01,000 --> 02:37:03,560
Speaker 3: I'm sorry? I was trying to the game time.

3096
02:37:03,840 --> 02:37:06,240
Speaker 9: I thought you'd be excited Steve, because he said Baltimore

3097
02:37:06,320 --> 02:37:08,320
Speaker 9: needs to get a stop, get off the field fast,

3098
02:37:08,360 --> 02:37:09,280
Speaker 9: and they did just that.

3099
02:37:09,360 --> 02:37:12,640
Speaker 3: Well, and I'm talking about job here.

3100
02:37:12,959 --> 02:37:16,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, okay, actually, no, no, no, you guys have it

3101
02:37:16,680 --> 02:37:17,160
Speaker 4: all wrong.

3102
02:37:17,280 --> 02:37:19,240
Speaker 1: And bo, I'm shocked that you don't know this.

3103
02:37:19,680 --> 02:37:22,920
Speaker 4: There is a Tailor Swift quota that we are supposed

3104
02:37:22,920 --> 02:37:24,080
Speaker 4: to fill a Fox or three.

3105
02:37:24,240 --> 02:37:26,280
Speaker 3: We never mentioned her once, and I had to get

3106
02:37:26,440 --> 02:37:27,280
Speaker 3: one at it.

3107
02:37:27,360 --> 02:37:30,560
Speaker 9: I hey, in honor of Monsey, I mentioned her in

3108
02:37:30,600 --> 02:37:31,320
Speaker 9: the first hour.

3109
02:37:31,480 --> 02:37:33,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, got it in. It's in my contract.

3110
02:37:34,160 --> 02:37:37,199
Speaker 1: One per update. We have at least one per four

3111
02:37:37,200 --> 02:37:37,760
Speaker 1: hour show.

3112
02:37:37,840 --> 02:37:40,600
Speaker 2: All right, So updating the game, Yes, three and out

3113
02:37:40,640 --> 02:37:44,520
Speaker 2: for the Chiefs and Townsley got a decent puntoff. So

3114
02:37:44,640 --> 02:37:47,480
Speaker 2: the Ravens will take over at their own twenty two

3115
02:37:47,640 --> 02:37:52,480
Speaker 2: yard line. And obviously a critical tribe to start the

3116
02:37:52,520 --> 02:37:55,080
Speaker 2: second half, but certainly a good start to the second

3117
02:37:55,080 --> 02:37:58,720
Speaker 2: half as the Ravens defense got the job done. Yeah

3118
02:37:58,760 --> 02:38:00,280
Speaker 2: all right, so let's see what the ravee is do

3119
02:38:00,360 --> 02:38:02,600
Speaker 2: on this drive. But let's let's get some thoughts here

3120
02:38:02,600 --> 02:38:03,960
Speaker 2: on the remainder of this game.

3121
02:38:04,160 --> 02:38:08,600
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, this is what the Ravens need to do. Uh,

3122
02:38:08,640 --> 02:38:11,840
Speaker 4: they're trailing by ten points. You got the ball back

3123
02:38:11,879 --> 02:38:17,560
Speaker 4: immediately in the second half. They need to run law football.

3124
02:38:17,160 --> 02:38:19,960
Speaker 3: And on first down they ran the ball for no game.

3125
02:38:20,480 --> 02:38:24,200
Speaker 4: Okay, there you have it. I'm gonna go back.

3126
02:38:24,440 --> 02:38:27,440
Speaker 3: I'm gonna they say, where's Edwards? Why is any guy

3127
02:38:27,480 --> 02:38:28,120
Speaker 3: carrying the ball?

3128
02:38:28,120 --> 02:38:30,240
Speaker 4: I'm gonna settle I'm gonna settle down, and I'm just

3129
02:38:30,280 --> 02:38:34,600
Speaker 4: gonna say this. Among the most explosive plays the Ravens had,

3130
02:38:35,120 --> 02:38:38,440
Speaker 4: arguably the most explosive was on a fourth one where

3131
02:38:38,720 --> 02:38:41,880
Speaker 4: Lamar Jackson carried the football himself for like a twenty

3132
02:38:41,920 --> 02:38:42,680
Speaker 4: five yard game.

3133
02:38:43,320 --> 02:38:44,240
Speaker 1: Let's let's start.

3134
02:38:44,400 --> 02:38:46,520
Speaker 4: Let's start using the run game as a tool like

3135
02:38:46,560 --> 02:38:47,920
Speaker 4: they've used it all season long.

3136
02:38:48,560 --> 02:38:52,440
Speaker 3: All right, so they are Yeah, this is I agree

3137
02:38:52,440 --> 02:38:52,720
Speaker 3: with you.

3138
02:38:52,800 --> 02:38:55,000
Speaker 2: I mean you you can't be thinking, all right, we

3139
02:38:55,040 --> 02:38:55,800
Speaker 2: got to pass the ball.

3140
02:38:55,840 --> 02:38:58,320
Speaker 3: We're down ten. We know the Chiefs are probably gonna

3141
02:38:58,400 --> 02:39:00,320
Speaker 3: score again. They're running the ball was.

3142
02:39:00,280 --> 02:39:02,959
Speaker 2: A flowers right now, and I'm setting up in a

3143
02:39:02,959 --> 02:39:07,119
Speaker 2: big third down play. So again you stop them three

3144
02:39:07,160 --> 02:39:09,360
Speaker 2: and out. I don't know how many times you're gonna

3145
02:39:09,360 --> 02:39:12,720
Speaker 2: pull that off now against the Chiefs. You can't give

3146
02:39:12,760 --> 02:39:14,439
Speaker 2: the ball back on a three and out.

3147
02:39:14,520 --> 02:39:17,800
Speaker 4: No you can't, You absolutely cannot. You have to find

3148
02:39:17,840 --> 02:39:20,640
Speaker 4: a way to extend this drive. There's I mean this

3149
02:39:20,920 --> 02:39:22,080
Speaker 4: you're getting down.

3150
02:39:21,840 --> 02:39:22,560
Speaker 3: To all right?

3151
02:39:22,600 --> 02:39:24,960
Speaker 2: Here we go third and six, they got they need

3152
02:39:24,959 --> 02:39:28,040
Speaker 2: a first down here and they throw the ball in complete.

3153
02:39:29,680 --> 02:39:31,760
Speaker 2: And so a three and out by the Chiefs is

3154
02:39:31,800 --> 02:39:33,680
Speaker 2: followed by a three and out by the Ravens.

3155
02:39:33,800 --> 02:39:35,720
Speaker 3: By the way, this did not come as surprise.

3156
02:39:35,800 --> 02:39:38,640
Speaker 2: These are two of the top defenses in the NFL,

3157
02:39:39,120 --> 02:39:42,840
Speaker 2: and after a shaky start, both these defensives have definitely

3158
02:39:42,879 --> 02:39:45,640
Speaker 2: tightened up. All right, Rich, what's your prediction on the

3159
02:39:45,640 --> 02:39:48,360
Speaker 2: game coming up later between the Lions and the forty

3160
02:39:48,440 --> 02:39:48,840
Speaker 2: nine ers.

3161
02:39:49,520 --> 02:39:53,520
Speaker 4: Look, the Lions right now are big dogs in this game.

3162
02:39:53,680 --> 02:39:56,240
Speaker 4: I'm rolling with the dogs on the point spread, and

3163
02:39:57,120 --> 02:39:59,280
Speaker 4: the money line bet on the Lions is the most

3164
02:39:59,320 --> 02:40:03,920
Speaker 4: popular at bet MGM right now, and I understand why,

3165
02:40:04,000 --> 02:40:06,200
Speaker 4: because I think the Lions have a puncher's chance. I'll

3166
02:40:06,200 --> 02:40:08,000
Speaker 4: take the forty nine ers to win, but I got

3167
02:40:08,000 --> 02:40:09,160
Speaker 4: the Lions covering all right.

3168
02:40:09,200 --> 02:40:10,920
Speaker 3: Thirty eight fourteen forty nine ers.

3169
02:40:11,000 --> 02:40:11,440
Speaker 1: Keep it here.

3170
02:40:11,520 --> 02:40:12,880
Speaker 3: This is Fox Sports Radio.