WEBVTT - S2 – 8: Open Graves

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<v Speaker 1>Welcomed unobscured a production of I Heart Radio and Aaron Minky.

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<v Speaker 1>He rushed to embrace his father, but as he neared

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<v Speaker 1>the figure, it faded and disappeared. All of it was

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<v Speaker 1>a shock, of course, because Henri's father was dead. He

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<v Speaker 1>collected himself and moved forward, but the experience left outs.

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<v Speaker 1>You see, before this moment, Henri hadn't believed in spiritualism.

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<v Speaker 1>He'd heard the stories and visited a seance once to

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<v Speaker 1>see if there was anything to it. He, even so,

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<v Speaker 1>his story goes, managed to levitate a table at that sitting,

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<v Speaker 1>but he walked away unconvinced that there was something supernatural

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<v Speaker 1>going on the madness of some people, he laughed. After

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<v Speaker 1>his father's death, though, that encounter with the vanishing figure

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<v Speaker 1>made him reconsider. It made him go back and start

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<v Speaker 1>to think again about what he had experienced in that seance.

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<v Speaker 1>It made him decide to turn to it. He scheduled

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<v Speaker 1>an appointment with a New Orleans medium who called herself

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<v Speaker 1>Sister Louise. When they finally sat down together and formed

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<v Speaker 1>a harmonious circle, Sister Louise said she felt something. Ri's

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<v Speaker 1>hand was trembling, so she handed him a pencil, then

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<v Speaker 1>any other context to shaky hand might be a reason

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<v Speaker 1>to stop writing. But sister Louise saw things with the

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<v Speaker 1>eyes of a spiritualist. As soon as the pencil was

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<v Speaker 1>in his fingers on reset and invisible hand wrapped around

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<v Speaker 1>his own and then started to write. Here's historian Emily Clark,

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<v Speaker 1>and at his first meeting with Louise, he just writes

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<v Speaker 1>and writes and writes and writes and writes, all under

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<v Speaker 1>the powerful influence of spirits. And as he starts to

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<v Speaker 1>get tired, I mean, we don't do a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>handwriting anymore. We're always on our computers. But handwriting pages

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<v Speaker 1>and pages and pages, your arm gets tired. He begins

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<v Speaker 1>to get tired. In the spirit of his father, Bartholomy

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<v Speaker 1>comes to him and assures him, you can keep writing.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not really tired. Me and the other spirits will

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<v Speaker 1>sustain you. And so it's sort of this progression of

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<v Speaker 1>experiences that convinced him Henri would follow the spirit's command

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<v Speaker 1>to write for the rest of his life. At first,

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<v Speaker 1>his seances were private. He started recording messages from the

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<v Speaker 1>spirits in a registered book marked Soul or Solo, but

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<v Speaker 1>he quickly received instructions to open his visitations to others.

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<v Speaker 1>You see, Henri was part of the Afro Creole community

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<v Speaker 1>in New Orleans. They spoke French, where Catholic educated, and

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<v Speaker 1>came mostly from families who were freed from slavery during

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<v Speaker 1>the colonial era. Both of Andre's parents had come from

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<v Speaker 1>Haiti after the revolution and became some of the most

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<v Speaker 1>respected among their Catholic neighbors in New Orleans. They found

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<v Speaker 1>that they enjoyed some of the freedoms denied to other

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<v Speaker 1>black neighbors, like owning property and serving as witnesses in court,

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<v Speaker 1>but they were subject to many of the same disc

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<v Speaker 1>dominations that made publishing black newspapers and organizing religious groups illegal.

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<v Speaker 1>Even so, on Re followed the instructions of the spirits,

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<v Speaker 1>obeying their voices. He held a series of seances with

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<v Speaker 1>Sister Louise for members of his social circle, and soon

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<v Speaker 1>enough spiritualism was bridging divides in New Orleans. Spiritualists around

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<v Speaker 1>on reconnected with mediums like JB. Valmore, who had been

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<v Speaker 1>holding seances in the city for years, and the spirits

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<v Speaker 1>came to speak. But the entries and on Ree's registered

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<v Speaker 1>book came to an end in April of eighteen sixty

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<v Speaker 1>and we know why too. The voices of the spirits

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<v Speaker 1>had been drowned out by the march of boots and

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<v Speaker 1>the shouts of officers as the Southern States seceded. A

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<v Speaker 1>battle for a different nation and a different world swept

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<v Speaker 1>over them. In the opening clashes of conflict. The Civil

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<v Speaker 1>War had begun. This is unobscured. I'm Aaron Manky. They

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<v Speaker 1>were scattered to the winds of war. But the New

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<v Speaker 1>Orleans Sean Circle was only one of many things that

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<v Speaker 1>broke apart when shells fell on Fort Sumter in eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>sixty one. When the fighting began, un Re walked into

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<v Speaker 1>the crowded room at a school his father had founded.

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<v Speaker 1>The other leaders there of the Afro Creole community had

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<v Speaker 1>gathered to decide how to wield their resources in the

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<v Speaker 1>coming conflict. They had also been teachers and administrators in

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<v Speaker 1>the school. Now they would be soldiers. Henri and a

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<v Speaker 1>thousand other free men of color joy into the Native

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<v Speaker 1>guards for on Re. This brought him a captain's commission

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<v Speaker 1>with the Confederacy. Here's Emily Clark once again. So on

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<v Speaker 1>Re and his brother Octave and others, many other Afro

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<v Speaker 1>Creole men in the city joined the war effort, but

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<v Speaker 1>intel New Orleans was seized by the Union in eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>sixty two. When they joined the Louisiana Native Guards the

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<v Speaker 1>Black Regimen for the city, they had to muster for

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<v Speaker 1>the Confederacy, which was not what they wanted. That much

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<v Speaker 1>was clear when the officers and staff of the regiment

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<v Speaker 1>gathered to celebrate Christmas at the end of the year,

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<v Speaker 1>their service was compelled again to serve a social power

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<v Speaker 1>built to exploit them. Their property, their families, and their

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<v Speaker 1>lives were subject to violent retaliation if they didn't step

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<v Speaker 1>forward for service. But when they gathered on re raised

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<v Speaker 1>his glass and a toast to all revolutions. He said,

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<v Speaker 1>for they give birth the progress of man and lead

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<v Speaker 1>him on the way of true fraternity. It was a

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<v Speaker 1>message that had come to him straight from beyond death,

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<v Speaker 1>against the institution of slavery that structured Southern society. On

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<v Speaker 1>ri and Valmore received from the spirits what they called

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<v Speaker 1>the idea. They received so many messages that made mention

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<v Speaker 1>of the idea, And when you put all these together,

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<v Speaker 1>it becomes clear that this was a concept that meant

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<v Speaker 1>humanitarian progress, brotherhood, egalitarianism, equality, harmony. It was similar to

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<v Speaker 1>some other ideas that are going around nineteenth century America,

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<v Speaker 1>ideas of millennial progress. This desire to build the Kingdom

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<v Speaker 1>of God here on earth in the US, the idea

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<v Speaker 1>would require work to make. The idea of reality on

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<v Speaker 1>Earth would not just happen. The triumph of the idea

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<v Speaker 1>would require free thought, democracy, equality, The progressive march of

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<v Speaker 1>humanity is not going to happen on its own. Gathered

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<v Speaker 1>around that revolutionary idea, they took an aim for themselves

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<v Speaker 1>that represented the world they fought for. They became the

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<v Speaker 1>Cirque Harmonique. To them, spiritualism was the key to making

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<v Speaker 1>a fair and just world. It opened the doors to

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<v Speaker 1>the revolutionary leaders and thinkers who had otherwise been lost

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<v Speaker 1>to time. The idea, the revolutionary spark of the cirk Harmonique,

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<v Speaker 1>was lit from the flame of the Haitian Revolution, but

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<v Speaker 1>was smothered by the darkness of war. But it's still

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<v Speaker 1>smoldered under the cloak of Confederate service. In the coming months,

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<v Speaker 1>on Ri would publish a letter in the Afro Creole

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<v Speaker 1>newspaper The Union that celebrated the Native Guards. He wrote

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<v Speaker 1>that anyone watching his troops in parade, would see men

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<v Speaker 1>of all races carrying the same bayonets, gleaming in the sun.

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<v Speaker 1>Be informed. He wrote that we have no prejudice. We

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<v Speaker 1>receive everyone in the camp, but that the sight of

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<v Speaker 1>a human salesman of flesh makes us sick. Statements like

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<v Speaker 1>that were clear challenges to the white supremacy of slave power,

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<v Speaker 1>and once the Native Guards were armed and trained, those

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<v Speaker 1>challenges became more frequent and more fierce. Their agenda was

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<v Speaker 1>to defend their families and homes from whoever threatened them,

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<v Speaker 1>once more from Emily Clark. They joined the war effort

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<v Speaker 1>because they felt strongly about defending their home, but they

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<v Speaker 1>disobeyed the Confederacy's orders. As the Union was approaching the

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<v Speaker 1>city in eighteen sixty two, the Confederacy orders all of

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<v Speaker 1>the troops out and the Black troops stay. They disobey,

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<v Speaker 1>and they want to stay with their homes and protect

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<v Speaker 1>their homes and protect their families. A committee of four

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<v Speaker 1>in the Louisiana Native Guards, including Onri and his brother Octave,

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<v Speaker 1>were the group that surrendered their weapons to the Union

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<v Speaker 1>when the Union comes into New Orleans. But then they

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<v Speaker 1>quickly got them back because now they were able to

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<v Speaker 1>serve on the side they wanted to, so Onri and

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<v Speaker 1>the Louisiana Native Guards took up the work of supporting

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<v Speaker 1>the Union army in their region, and that's when on

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<v Speaker 1>Re met Colonel Nathan Daniels, the white Union officer given

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<v Speaker 1>command of Henri's regiment. You see, Daniels was a spiritualist,

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<v Speaker 1>and his diary includes the notes of his many sittings

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<v Speaker 1>with mediums throughout the city. It's through Daniels that we

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<v Speaker 1>learned that even though the Sir Carmonique wasn't meeting during

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<v Speaker 1>the years of war service, that didn't stop on Ree's

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<v Speaker 1>work as a medium, and an excellent one. In Nathan's words,

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<v Speaker 1>the Native Guards worked as engineers for the Northern troops.

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<v Speaker 1>They built fortifications, chopped wood, fetched and carried Daniels wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>able to keep his command, though he was arrested and discharged.

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<v Speaker 1>The official military record says it was for mishandling lumber

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<v Speaker 1>used in construction. Daniels believed that was because he defended

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<v Speaker 1>his black troops against the racism of their white officers.

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<v Speaker 1>After his discharge, though Daniels continued to sit for seances

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<v Speaker 1>with Henri and velmore while they waited to see if

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<v Speaker 1>the Native guards would be used for anything other than

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<v Speaker 1>manual labor by the Union Army. They were no killer angels,

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<v Speaker 1>but the spirits continued to speak throughout the war, and

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<v Speaker 1>as they did, thousands were added to their number. Nettie

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<v Speaker 1>was close to spiritualism's beating heart. That is, she was

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<v Speaker 1>in Albany, New York, when troops clashed at bull Run

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<v Speaker 1>Creek near Manassas Junction. It was July of eighteen sixty one.

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<v Speaker 1>As Nettie recalled it, The air in New York was

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<v Speaker 1>full of heady optimism. The call had gone out for

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<v Speaker 1>seventy troops to join the Union Army. Despite the previous

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<v Speaker 1>efforts of New York City political and business leaders to

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<v Speaker 1>oppose the war, they sent eight thousand volunteers to the front.

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<v Speaker 1>Once the fighting began. Nettie wasn't far from those concerns.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, she was close to the Governor of Connecticut,

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<v Speaker 1>Thomas Seymour. It was after sitting with him that Nettie

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<v Speaker 1>received entry into the capital of New York State. Nettie

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<v Speaker 1>Colburn was a twenty year old medium in the Fox

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<v Speaker 1>Sisters Mold. Her story began as so many others did,

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<v Speaker 1>with a spirit rattling through her family's house. It began

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<v Speaker 1>when her grandmother died, and they guessed that it was

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<v Speaker 1>the old woman's spirit, striking dead clocks and frightening Nettie's

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<v Speaker 1>grandfather with ghostly whispers, inviting him to join her in death.

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<v Speaker 1>Others answered that call as well, though, when the Civil

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<v Speaker 1>War started, her father and all four brothers were enlisted.

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<v Speaker 1>Soon enough, they were preparing to head south towards Virginia

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<v Speaker 1>and the coming fight. By that time, Nettie had become

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<v Speaker 1>well known. One of her first supporters was a local

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<v Speaker 1>silver plater and merchant who put his money behind her mediumship.

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<v Speaker 1>In that way, Nettie's rise looks a lot like that

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<v Speaker 1>of Daniel Hume, when she found powerful, willing friends to

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<v Speaker 1>lift her into the world of the upper crust, and

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<v Speaker 1>once she was sitting with governors and their cohorts, she

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<v Speaker 1>found herself controlled by prominent spirits to deliver lectures, give advice,

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<v Speaker 1>and even make political predictions. She was the kind of

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<v Speaker 1>spiritualist and elected official could love. But even though there

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<v Speaker 1>was optimism in the air, the spirits wore Nettie against

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<v Speaker 1>a sunny disposition. She didn't record which voices warned her

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<v Speaker 1>away from celebrating the war's beginning, but she remembered them

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<v Speaker 1>telling her that the war would last for four years.

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<v Speaker 1>With her family at the front, this would have been

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<v Speaker 1>a chilling thought. In the following months, Nettie started to

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<v Speaker 1>get messages describing a congress of spirits. There were statesmen

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<v Speaker 1>and public figures who wanted to return to the material

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<v Speaker 1>world and offer their guidance over the affairs of a

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<v Speaker 1>nation at war. Nettie started telling people in her Albany

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<v Speaker 1>circle that the spirits were demanding she speaked directly with

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<v Speaker 1>the President. The messages Nettie shared with her friends told

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<v Speaker 1>her to arrange a trip to Washington. The instructions were

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<v Speaker 1>too ridiculous to obey, though, so Nettie stayed in New York.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't until she received a note from her brother

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<v Speaker 1>the following November that she decided to go south. He

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<v Speaker 1>was in a war hospital and the waves of injured

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<v Speaker 1>soldiers coming back from the front meant that he was

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<v Speaker 1>poorly cared for. He needed someone to help him get

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<v Speaker 1>a military furlough, and that was the spur she needed.

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<v Speaker 1>Nettie set out for Baltimore and then on to Washington.

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<v Speaker 1>Through spiritualist connections, she met Thomas Gayle's Foster, a spiritualist

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<v Speaker 1>lecturer who also happened to be a clerk in the

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<v Speaker 1>War Department. Foster welcomed Nettie to Washington and hosted her

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<v Speaker 1>in his home. He heard her case and her brother's position,

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<v Speaker 1>and got to work turning the wheels of bureaucracy in

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<v Speaker 1>their favor. Soon enough, Nettie was catching a train to

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<v Speaker 1>the war hospital to pass along the good news to

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<v Speaker 1>her brother in person. That night, when she returned to

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<v Speaker 1>the Foster's house, Nettie joined a seance that included officials

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<v Speaker 1>from across the government. During that session, Foster turned to

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<v Speaker 1>her while in a trance. Through him, the voices of

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<v Speaker 1>the spirits told Nettie that she would succeed in sending

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<v Speaker 1>her brother home, but that she had other greater work

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<v Speaker 1>to do in the capital. In the following days, he

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<v Speaker 1>pressed the furlough order from official to official, while in

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<v Speaker 1>the evening, the spirit messages became more insistent. During these sittings,

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<v Speaker 1>Nettie said she met the most powerful physical mediums in

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<v Speaker 1>Washington through introductions to Foster's friends, until finally Nettie herself

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<v Speaker 1>was overcome During a seance, an unknown spirit announced to

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<v Speaker 1>the circle that Nettie should go to Lincoln herself. The

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<v Speaker 1>officials in the seance circle took this message seriously, as

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<v Speaker 1>they had all the other lectures and communications. They urged

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<v Speaker 1>Nettie to arrange a meeting with the presidents, and they

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<v Speaker 1>even offered to help her. She's still declined, but they

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<v Speaker 1>were convinced of the faded nature of the spirit's instructions.

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<v Speaker 1>It was only a matter of time before the circle

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<v Speaker 1>made the arrangements anyway. Among Nettie's new spiritualist acquaintances were

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<v Speaker 1>the medium's Cranston Laurie and his daughter Belle Miller, who

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<v Speaker 1>knew the Lincoln's personally through Kentucky friends. Cranston had worked

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<v Speaker 1>in the Post Office when it was building experimental telegraph

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<v Speaker 1>lines between baltim Or and Washington. By befriending Nettie, it

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<v Speaker 1>seems that he also decided to open a depot in

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<v Speaker 1>his own home for a spiritual telegraph between heaven and Earth,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was through Cranston that Nettie finally received word

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<v Speaker 1>Mary Todd Lincoln had asked to see a trance medium.

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<v Speaker 1>Nettie could not be pushed. That much was clear, but

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<v Speaker 1>this was a poll and one that she could not decline.

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<v Speaker 1>As far as Cranston and Bell were concerned, Nettie Colburn's

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<v Speaker 1>moment had arrived. Spiritualists had to keep up the fight

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<v Speaker 1>even as the war raged on Ohio. Spiritualist author Hudson

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<v Speaker 1>Tuttle wrote Reams of anti radical, anti reform articles in

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<v Speaker 1>May of eighteen sixty two. He complained that the universal

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<v Speaker 1>grasp of spiritualism has gathered the floating rubbish of the

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<v Speaker 1>seas of mankind. This was his view on spirit messages

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<v Speaker 1>that argued for liberty. The land reformer was sure the

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<v Speaker 1>spirits were land reformers, he wrote. The advocate of women's

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<v Speaker 1>rights was equally sure that they advocated his hobby. And

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<v Speaker 1>even in the midst of the conflict, The Banner of

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<v Speaker 1>Light published Tuttle's opinions. He wasn't alone north or South

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<v Speaker 1>on the matter of slavery and abolition. Reformers like Sojourn

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<v Speaker 1>or Truth and the Posts faced comments from Christian spiritualists

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<v Speaker 1>who believed that God permitted slavery and that it was

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<v Speaker 1>part of a divine law. They were the kinds of

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<v Speaker 1>positions that had pushed Isaac and Amy Post out of

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<v Speaker 1>their religious tradition in the first place. The anti reform

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<v Speaker 1>impulse of men like Tuttle was echoed and reinforced among

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<v Speaker 1>many of the mediums we've already met. Cora, for example,

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<v Speaker 1>hosted the spirit of Thomas Jefferson at One Spirit Lecture

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<v Speaker 1>in May of eighteen sixty one. Through her, his voice

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<v Speaker 1>criticized radicals and told them to stop fighting against slavery.

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<v Speaker 1>When his persona argued that the war was the result

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<v Speaker 1>of slaveholders bigotry clashing with the reformers fantasism, Cora's Thomas

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<v Speaker 1>Jefferson offered listeners the sort of blame for both sides

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<v Speaker 1>that's all too familiar and disheartening today. And just like

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<v Speaker 1>the pulpits and public squares across the nation, the seance

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<v Speaker 1>table and the Spiritualist lecture were battlegrounds. The grip of

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<v Speaker 1>slaveholder power and white supremacy still choked out real condemnations

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<v Speaker 1>of the expansion of slavery that came with the Kansas

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<v Speaker 1>Nebraska Act, the Fugitive Slave Act, the Annexation of Texas,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Mexican War, and everywhere it traveled. Both in

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<v Speaker 1>the United States and across oceans. Spiritualism was deeply and

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<v Speaker 1>inescapably political. As the question of slavery split the nation,

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<v Speaker 1>so it split spiritualists as well. So it's not so strange,

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<v Speaker 1>after all that spiritualist believers in positions of power would

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<v Speaker 1>turn to the other world for guidance. In Washington, d c.

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<v Speaker 1>Those spiritualists heard the voices of dead soldiers, dead presidents,

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<v Speaker 1>and lamenting profits. But when Cranston Laurie pulled up to

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<v Speaker 1>the Foster's house in an unusually elegant carriage to bring

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<v Speaker 1>Nettie to a seance, it was a surprise to her.

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<v Speaker 1>Cushioned by Crimson Satin on the road, Nettie would later

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<v Speaker 1>write that she should have known what was coming, but

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<v Speaker 1>she was so distracted by the trouble of getting her

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<v Speaker 1>brother the proper travel papers that she barely noticed that

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<v Speaker 1>the carriage door was opened for her by a well

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<v Speaker 1>dressed footman. When she arrived at the Laurie's house, Nettie

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<v Speaker 1>was greeted by a circle of new faces. The Secretary

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<v Speaker 1>of Interior, the Chief Clerk of the Treasury, a Commissioner

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<v Speaker 1>of Agriculture, a congressman from Maine, and of course Mary

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<v Speaker 1>Todd Lincoln. From their very first meeting. The thing that

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<v Speaker 1>Nettie remembered was Mary Lincoln's eagerness. She was determined to

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<v Speaker 1>hear from the spirits. In fact, it made Nettie so

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<v Speaker 1>nervous that Mrs Lincoln spent the first few minutes trying

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<v Speaker 1>to calm the medium by assuring her that her family

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<v Speaker 1>would be taken care of. Her brother was sure to

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<v Speaker 1>get his furlough and travel home. When Nettie had settled

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<v Speaker 1>into a seat and the believers gathered around her, a

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<v Speaker 1>new and powerful influence took possession of her body. It spoke,

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<v Speaker 1>she later wrote, with great clearness and force. When Nettie

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<v Speaker 1>finally came back to herself, Missus Lincoln was exclaiming to

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<v Speaker 1>the men in the room, this young lady must not

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<v Speaker 1>leave Washington. She must stay here, and mister Lincoln must

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<v Speaker 1>hear what we have heard. To keep Nettie in the capital,

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<v Speaker 1>Mary Lincoln turned to the Commissioner of Agriculture and told

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<v Speaker 1>him to find Nettie a position in his department, but

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<v Speaker 1>she hardly had time to claim the role. Two days later,

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<v Speaker 1>Nettie received a second invitation from the First Lady, this

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<v Speaker 1>time to hold a seance inside the White House, if

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<v Speaker 1>her memory was right. When she finally wrote her memoir,

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<v Speaker 1>she arrived in the Red Parlor for the first time

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<v Speaker 1>in December of eighteen sixty two. When the group filed in,

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<v Speaker 1>Mary Lincoln met them. Cranston Laurie's daughter, Bell was with them,

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<v Speaker 1>and while the group talked, she sat down at the piano.

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<v Speaker 1>A march began to play, and soon, as the piano

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<v Speaker 1>so often did under Bell's hands, the whole instrument began

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<v Speaker 1>to rise from the floor, but everything fell silent, and

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<v Speaker 1>the instrument landed back on the floor the moment Abraham

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<v Speaker 1>Lincoln stepped into the doorway. One by one, the mediums

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<v Speaker 1>were introduced to the President. As Nettie describes it, he

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<v Speaker 1>laid his hands on her head, saying, so this is

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<v Speaker 1>our little Nettie. Is it that we have heard so

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<v Speaker 1>much about? The pair talked for a few minutes, Lincoln

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<v Speaker 1>asking about Nettie's understanding of spiritualism, although she was hardly

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<v Speaker 1>able to squeak out more than a yes or no.

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<v Speaker 1>Cranston Laurie stepped forward to explain how they ordinarily conducted

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<v Speaker 1>their seances, but even as he did, Nettie fell into

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<v Speaker 1>a trance, it was time for the Congress of the

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<v Speaker 1>Spirits to be heard. In her memoir, Nettie wrote that

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<v Speaker 1>the spirits lectured through her for more than an hour,

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<v Speaker 1>and they urged the President to go forward with something

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<v Speaker 1>that he was already considering, the Emancipation Acclamation. He was charged,

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<v Speaker 1>she later wrote, with the utmost solemnity and force of manner,

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<v Speaker 1>not to abate the terms of its issue, and not

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<v Speaker 1>to delay its enforcement as a law beyond the opening

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<v Speaker 1>of the year, and he was assured that it was

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<v Speaker 1>to be the crowning event of his administration and his life.

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<v Speaker 1>Nettie never forgot what she saw when she came back

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<v Speaker 1>to herself. She stood in front of the President, who

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<v Speaker 1>was sitting back in his chair with his arms folded

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<v Speaker 1>on his chest, looking intently at her. Silence had settled

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<v Speaker 1>like a blanket over the room. Eventually the others began

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<v Speaker 1>to question Lincoln. They circled him and muttered commentary that

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<v Speaker 1>Nettie couldn't hear, but Lincoln said very little until the

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<v Speaker 1>flurry died down. Then he approached Nettie and thanked her.

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<v Speaker 1>He shook her hand, kindly, bowed to the rest, and

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<v Speaker 1>then vanished from the room. It wasn't the last time

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<v Speaker 1>Neddie would see Lincoln. Of course, there was no question

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<v Speaker 1>that it was Mary Lincoln who was the most enthusiastic

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<v Speaker 1>about spirit communication, but that impulse had been planted by

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<v Speaker 1>her friend Elizabeth Keckley. Here's historian Margaret Washington. Abraham Lincoln,

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<v Speaker 1>after his son Willie died, went to a spiritualist. His

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<v Speaker 1>wife convinced him to go, and she became interested in

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<v Speaker 1>spiritualism because her what would you call this woman dressmaker?

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<v Speaker 1>She was more than a dressmaker. She was a confidance.

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<v Speaker 1>She was a dressmaker. She dressed her hair. But she

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<v Speaker 1>was a former slave. Her son had passed for white

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<v Speaker 1>so he could join the Union Army at a time

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<v Speaker 1>when they weren't taking black people, and and he was

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<v Speaker 1>killed almost immediately. And that was her only child. So

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<v Speaker 1>spiritualism was very important to her. And then after Willie

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<v Speaker 1>Lincoln died, then she introduced Mary Todd Lincoln to spiritualism,

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<v Speaker 1>and Mary Todd Lincoln took it very seriously. Lincoln, for

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<v Speaker 1>his part, seems to have indulged his wife's enthusiasm at times.

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<v Speaker 1>He even made playful examinations of the spirit manifestations in

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<v Speaker 1>Cranston Laurie's circle. Most famously, in the winter of eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>sixty three, he appeared with Mary unexpectedly at a seance

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<v Speaker 1>circle that was being hosted at the Laurie's home. Neddie

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<v Speaker 1>was there that night too, and she was controlled by

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<v Speaker 1>the spirit of a doctor who recommended that Lincoln take

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<v Speaker 1>a tour of the battle front to raise the dwindoline

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<v Speaker 1>morale of the Union troops. But she wasn't the only

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<v Speaker 1>medium working that night. Cranston's daughter Bell had once again

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<v Speaker 1>sat down at the piano. As she played, under the

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<v Speaker 1>control of the spirits, her piano began to rise and

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<v Speaker 1>fall in time with the music. Then Bell stood up

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<v Speaker 1>and rested an outstretched arm on the piano as it

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<v Speaker 1>continued to move on its own. That's when Lincoln stepped

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<v Speaker 1>toward it. He leaned down to see what he could

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<v Speaker 1>detect beneath it. He swept his arm under the raised

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<v Speaker 1>legs of the piano, but didn't find anything. Turning to

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<v Speaker 1>the group with a mischievous smile, he said, I think

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<v Speaker 1>we can hold down that instrument, and he turned and

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<v Speaker 1>jumped on top of the piano. A congressman from Mayne

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<v Speaker 1>followed his lead along with a few others, but even

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<v Speaker 1>with the added weight, the piano kept rising and falling

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<v Speaker 1>in time with the music. No one in the group

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<v Speaker 1>could find a hidden device causing the motion either. The

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<v Speaker 1>spiritualists there later remembered hearing Lincoln say that he was

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<v Speaker 1>perfectly satisfied that the movement was caused by some invisible power.

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<v Speaker 1>In a later conversation with Cranston Laurie, Lincoln would say

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<v Speaker 1>that he could neither confirm nor deny the spiritual origin

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<v Speaker 1>of the powers he had seen, whether they spoke through

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<v Speaker 1>Nettie or levitated a piano. From time to time, though

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<v Speaker 1>he would pause from his duties to hear a spirit

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<v Speaker 1>lecture from Nettie if she was visiting Mary Lincoln in

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<v Speaker 1>the White House. In his loyally way, this was the

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<v Speaker 1>most Lincoln ever seemed to say about the question of spiritualism. Usually,

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<v Speaker 1>it seems he was merely a silent spectator. Looking back,

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<v Speaker 1>we can see how other concerns must have required his

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<v Speaker 1>full attention. The word eventually got out, though, that the

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<v Speaker 1>President was sometimes willing to hear from the spirits. Even

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<v Speaker 1>before that, rumors with a venomous tone were often launched

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<v Speaker 1>by his critics who saw an opportunity to accuse the

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<v Speaker 1>president of demonizing the country. In eighteen sixty three, one

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<v Speaker 1>anonymous author published a short book under the title Interior

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<v Speaker 1>Cause of the War, The Nation Demonized and its President

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<v Speaker 1>a spirit Rapper. It may have pushed some away from Lincoln,

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<v Speaker 1>but it also brought spiritualists to his cause. The various camps,

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<v Speaker 1>from trans lecturers to the traveling healers and the private mediums,

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<v Speaker 1>finally drew together enough to hold a National Spiritualist Convention

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<v Speaker 1>in eighteen sixty four, bringing members from across the Northern States,

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<v Speaker 1>and it served a fuel Lincoln's reelection campaign because it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't just one meeting, but tides of rallies and conventions

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<v Speaker 1>that gathered spiritualists together. And once they were under one roof,

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<v Speaker 1>they talked just as much about politics as they did

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<v Speaker 1>about theology. Just as they had in Rochester in eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>forty eight, the Spiritualists agreed on a thunderous call for

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<v Speaker 1>perfect and entire equality of rights between the sexes. Liberty

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<v Speaker 1>was the responsibility of the harmonious men and women who

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<v Speaker 1>followed the spirits. Like the front page of Frederick Douglas's

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<v Speaker 1>North Star from sixteen years before they rejected the idea

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<v Speaker 1>that sex, in any instance whatever confers the slightest authority.

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<v Speaker 1>The remaining spiritualist who rejected the reform causes of Lincoln's

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<v Speaker 1>platform withdrew from the public meetings as the war advanced,

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<v Speaker 1>but some warmed up to his leadership. Cora, who had

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<v Speaker 1>begun the war by channeling a Thomas Jefferson who pitted

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<v Speaker 1>both sides against each other, was channeling different voices. By

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen sixty three. She found herself frequently under the control

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<v Speaker 1>of a popular Boston abolitionist who had died in eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>sixty one of the men whose fantasism had been condemned

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<v Speaker 1>by her, Thomas Jefferson. By eighteen sixty three, with two

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<v Speaker 1>years of the war behind her, Cora now channeled the

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<v Speaker 1>spirit that cried out for and I quote, a holy

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<v Speaker 1>crusade to eliminate slavery and redeemed the land from its

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<v Speaker 1>bondage and its sin. This new message directly aligned her

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<v Speaker 1>with the radical Republicans and their liberal social reforms, and

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<v Speaker 1>with President Lincoln's rhetoric about the war. In fact, Lincoln

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<v Speaker 1>spoke of the fighting as a national blood sacrifice that

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<v Speaker 1>might cover the nation's sins of slavery, which of course

0:27:44.480 --> 0:27:48.640
<v Speaker 1>had been sojourner Truth's message for years. In fact, few

0:27:48.720 --> 0:27:52.560
<v Speaker 1>traveling speakers campaigned harder for Lincoln's reelection than she did,

0:27:53.000 --> 0:27:56.440
<v Speaker 1>but other spiritualists did join her at meetings across the Northeast.

0:27:56.960 --> 0:28:00.000
<v Speaker 1>Once Neddie Colburn was a featured speaker at a camp

0:28:00.000 --> 0:28:03.640
<v Speaker 1>Pane rally. In her trance, the Spirits offered his gathered

0:28:03.680 --> 0:28:07.200
<v Speaker 1>supporters the kind of certainty that forecasters today are always

0:28:07.200 --> 0:28:12.880
<v Speaker 1>hoping for. The spirits were certain that Lincoln would win. Later,

0:28:13.119 --> 0:28:17.080
<v Speaker 1>Sojourner traveled to Washington and met with Lincoln, but their conversation,

0:28:17.320 --> 0:28:19.639
<v Speaker 1>as far as we know, was little more than a

0:28:19.640 --> 0:28:24.200
<v Speaker 1>brief exchange of courtesies. Other mediums, though, would get far

0:28:24.320 --> 0:28:28.480
<v Speaker 1>closer to the president, and not always for the best.

0:28:37.800 --> 0:28:42.280
<v Speaker 1>His first seances were sensations. They were less your loving

0:28:42.360 --> 0:28:44.920
<v Speaker 1>father wants to tell you he loves you, and more

0:28:45.360 --> 0:28:48.480
<v Speaker 1>a wealthy murder victim can guide you to their buried treasure.

0:28:48.960 --> 0:28:51.720
<v Speaker 1>But the instructions he offered led his visitors to nothing

0:28:51.760 --> 0:28:54.640
<v Speaker 1>more than New York dirt. In his early days as

0:28:54.640 --> 0:28:58.960
<v Speaker 1>a medium, John Conklin was an object of mockery, but

0:28:59.240 --> 0:29:02.640
<v Speaker 1>he blamed the impish spirits. They were tricking him as

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<v Speaker 1>well as his visitors, or so he said, at least

0:29:06.080 --> 0:29:08.320
<v Speaker 1>the dead word. Just having a laugh at the expense

0:29:08.360 --> 0:29:11.680
<v Speaker 1>of the living. That was what Conklin claimed about the spirits.

0:29:11.760 --> 0:29:13.840
<v Speaker 1>But I think it tells us more about his own

0:29:13.880 --> 0:29:17.920
<v Speaker 1>way of thinking. Even though he tried to pass the buck,

0:29:18.160 --> 0:29:20.600
<v Speaker 1>John still got out of town and he made his

0:29:20.600 --> 0:29:23.560
<v Speaker 1>way to New York City. That's where, in his first

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<v Speaker 1>campaign for the presidency, Abraham Lincoln anonymously visited John Conklin

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<v Speaker 1>several times. It might have been just a meaningless lark,

0:29:31.680 --> 0:29:34.400
<v Speaker 1>but a report on this visit was published in December

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen sixty as one of the early attempts to discredit

0:29:37.560 --> 0:29:42.200
<v Speaker 1>Lincoln by connecting him to spiritualism. Some of lincoln spokespeople

0:29:42.280 --> 0:29:45.400
<v Speaker 1>denied the stories, of course, but Lincoln himself never tried

0:29:45.440 --> 0:29:48.479
<v Speaker 1>to fight them, and why should he. There were plenty

0:29:48.520 --> 0:29:51.320
<v Speaker 1>of people who spent a free afternoon or two sitting

0:29:51.360 --> 0:29:55.120
<v Speaker 1>with a medium in New York City. For his part,

0:29:55.240 --> 0:29:57.560
<v Speaker 1>John Conklin had managed to work his way into a

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<v Speaker 1>mix of mediums and performers who entered tourists with their seances.

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<v Speaker 1>It hadn't been easy, but he had a special talent

0:30:04.960 --> 0:30:08.400
<v Speaker 1>for it and a taste for magical performances that outpaced

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<v Speaker 1>the religious devotion of other spiritualists. Here's historian John Busher.

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<v Speaker 1>He was sailor baker. He had various odd jobs. He

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<v Speaker 1>was born well and up in New York I mean

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<v Speaker 1>Upper New York City, near Bronx, and spent a long

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<v Speaker 1>time working on the docks and in the ships. And

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<v Speaker 1>he'd always been fascinated by magic performing magic. Apparently he

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<v Speaker 1>was an early adopter and transformed himself into a medium

0:30:46.720 --> 0:30:50.640
<v Speaker 1>who used it to make a living. He also set

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<v Speaker 1>up a kind of exhibition space, performance space, I guess

0:30:56.680 --> 0:31:01.040
<v Speaker 1>quite near Arnemus Museum, and he would come to that

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<v Speaker 1>as part of their experience of the big city. They

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<v Speaker 1>would visit Arms Museum, uh, they might take in some

0:31:10.920 --> 0:31:16.640
<v Speaker 1>other sites, but they would also visit his spirit room.

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<v Speaker 1>John Conklin's spirit room would become the place where plenty

0:31:20.360 --> 0:31:23.800
<v Speaker 1>of curious visitors would have their first encounters with the spirits.

0:31:23.960 --> 0:31:26.480
<v Speaker 1>In fact, it was at John Conklin's table that Emma

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<v Speaker 1>Harding had sat for that shocking seance that sent her

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<v Speaker 1>running from the room in horror. While some spiritualists turned

0:31:33.600 --> 0:31:37.080
<v Speaker 1>their attention to troubling national matters. New York was different.

0:31:37.600 --> 0:31:39.960
<v Speaker 1>John and others joined together to put on a sort

0:31:39.960 --> 0:31:44.000
<v Speaker 1>of spiritualist variety show. One medium might give a lecture,

0:31:44.280 --> 0:31:47.440
<v Speaker 1>then a performer like Emma would play some music. Someone

0:31:47.520 --> 0:31:50.240
<v Speaker 1>like John Conklin might even step up and invite some

0:31:50.280 --> 0:31:55.920
<v Speaker 1>audience participation. John's spirit demonstrations always came with a dramatic twist.

0:31:56.280 --> 0:31:59.560
<v Speaker 1>When he received spirit messages, they were written backwards on

0:31:59.600 --> 0:32:01.880
<v Speaker 1>sheets of paper, so they'd have to be held up

0:32:01.880 --> 0:32:04.200
<v Speaker 1>to the light, and when the spirits would tilt and

0:32:04.280 --> 0:32:06.880
<v Speaker 1>turn tables around him. They would also ask him to

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<v Speaker 1>do other things like open combination locks, channel spectral winds,

0:32:11.480 --> 0:32:15.200
<v Speaker 1>and answer questions that curious visitors carried and sealed envelopes,

0:32:15.440 --> 0:32:18.880
<v Speaker 1>lead boxes, or inside bars of soap, as you might

0:32:18.920 --> 0:32:21.520
<v Speaker 1>be able to tell. His claims about spirit power were

0:32:21.560 --> 0:32:25.120
<v Speaker 1>more than a little slippery, but they were also undeniably fun.

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<v Speaker 1>By the end of the eighteen fifties, though, John Conklin

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't just doling out his blend of performance, magic and

0:32:31.960 --> 0:32:37.440
<v Speaker 1>spiritual assayance in New York City. He had stints in Philadelphia, Boston, Cleveland,

0:32:37.560 --> 0:32:40.680
<v Speaker 1>and more. He even took a short trip south to Nashville.

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<v Speaker 1>In eighteen sixty two, Conklin followed the Congress of the

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<v Speaker 1>Spirits and the rumors of Influence to Washington, d C.

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<v Speaker 1>At least once he'd heard generals and other government officials

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<v Speaker 1>tried to use Neddie Coulvern as a means of getting

0:32:54.840 --> 0:32:58.320
<v Speaker 1>their concerns in front of President Lincoln. John Conklin thought

0:32:58.400 --> 0:33:00.760
<v Speaker 1>that he had an even better idea, So he sat

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<v Speaker 1>down at his desk in his boarding house room and

0:33:03.360 --> 0:33:07.800
<v Speaker 1>started to write. Somehow, perhaps through one of Mary Lincoln's

0:33:07.840 --> 0:33:12.160
<v Speaker 1>spiritualist friends, Conklin got a letter dropped into Abraham Lincoln's hand.

0:33:12.640 --> 0:33:15.120
<v Speaker 1>It was written backwards, of course, and it was signed

0:33:15.160 --> 0:33:18.360
<v Speaker 1>by Colonel Edward Baker, a senator who had died while

0:33:18.400 --> 0:33:22.040
<v Speaker 1>commanding Union Army forces. His seats in the Senate had

0:33:22.040 --> 0:33:25.600
<v Speaker 1>been Oregon's, but he had started his political career in Illinois,

0:33:25.920 --> 0:33:30.280
<v Speaker 1>where he and Lincoln had been close friends. Apparently that

0:33:30.320 --> 0:33:33.680
<v Speaker 1>note was enough to get Conklin a meeting with Lincoln. Soon,

0:33:33.840 --> 0:33:36.440
<v Speaker 1>other mediums and writers were reporting that the New York

0:33:36.560 --> 0:33:40.400
<v Speaker 1>magician turned spiritualist showman was in the circle of mediums

0:33:40.400 --> 0:33:44.640
<v Speaker 1>who made regular trips to the White House. In later years,

0:33:44.720 --> 0:33:48.440
<v Speaker 1>Conklin and his friends would make some outlandish claims. Conklin

0:33:48.520 --> 0:33:51.240
<v Speaker 1>said that he held as many as thirty private seances

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<v Speaker 1>at President Lincoln's request. Later, he would even go so

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<v Speaker 1>far as to tell Emma that through him, the spirits

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<v Speaker 1>had dictated the Emancipation Proclamation to Lincoln, letter by letter.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the kind of preposterous claim that highlights Conklin's theatrics

0:34:07.520 --> 0:34:10.040
<v Speaker 1>with a pen and paper. In the context of his

0:34:10.120 --> 0:34:13.320
<v Speaker 1>lifelong passion for tricks and sleight of hand, it's easy

0:34:13.400 --> 0:34:16.560
<v Speaker 1>to laugh them off. But more reliable documents, like the

0:34:16.600 --> 0:34:20.760
<v Speaker 1>private diaries of other politicians, confirmed that he offered Lincoln

0:34:20.800 --> 0:34:24.080
<v Speaker 1>messages from his dead friend more than once, and those

0:34:24.160 --> 0:34:28.799
<v Speaker 1>letters did encourage Lincoln to end slavery. So maybe it's

0:34:28.920 --> 0:34:33.040
<v Speaker 1>more a matter of exaggeration than outright lies. The stories

0:34:33.080 --> 0:34:36.520
<v Speaker 1>took real seances that Conklin held with Lincoln and used

0:34:36.520 --> 0:34:39.400
<v Speaker 1>them to the medium's advantage. But when it comes to

0:34:39.520 --> 0:34:43.239
<v Speaker 1>disreputable kN men, Conklin was far from the worst who

0:34:43.360 --> 0:34:47.759
<v Speaker 1>entered Lincoln's White House. No, for that particular mark of distinction,

0:34:48.440 --> 0:34:51.520
<v Speaker 1>we need to turn to someone new. Allow me to

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<v Speaker 1>introduce to you Charles J. Colchester. Charles Colchester rivaled Conklin

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<v Speaker 1>for theatrics. He could read sealed letters, he could turn

0:35:07.480 --> 0:35:10.120
<v Speaker 1>on the flash and style, crying out the names of

0:35:10.200 --> 0:35:14.360
<v Speaker 1>visitors deceased friends. Drums and banjo's would float around in

0:35:14.400 --> 0:35:18.280
<v Speaker 1>the dark during his more public displays, making loud, annoying music.

0:35:19.040 --> 0:35:23.239
<v Speaker 1>During his seances, his writing wasn't just lines of backward script. No.

0:35:23.400 --> 0:35:26.480
<v Speaker 1>When Colchester did it, blood read letters would appear on

0:35:26.600 --> 0:35:30.200
<v Speaker 1>his arms and forehead. There were many believers among those

0:35:30.200 --> 0:35:33.480
<v Speaker 1>who sat with Charles Colchester for his seances too. By

0:35:33.480 --> 0:35:36.520
<v Speaker 1>all accounts, he was charming and probably used the mark

0:35:36.600 --> 0:35:39.520
<v Speaker 1>of his English birth to good effect as Emma Head,

0:35:39.920 --> 0:35:42.399
<v Speaker 1>But there were plenty more people who saw something more

0:35:42.440 --> 0:35:45.480
<v Speaker 1>sinister in him. They saw him as the worst kind

0:35:45.480 --> 0:35:48.840
<v Speaker 1>of fraud ster, someone who took advantage of grieving people

0:35:49.320 --> 0:35:53.600
<v Speaker 1>to fill his pockets with cash. He began his march

0:35:53.640 --> 0:35:56.560
<v Speaker 1>to the White House by befriending the First Ladies dressmaker

0:35:56.640 --> 0:36:00.520
<v Speaker 1>and confidante, Elizabeth Keckley. Once he gained hurt trust, he

0:36:00.680 --> 0:36:03.040
<v Speaker 1>leaned on her to put him in front of Mrs Lincoln.

0:36:03.440 --> 0:36:06.040
<v Speaker 1>All he needed was an introduction and then he could

0:36:06.080 --> 0:36:11.200
<v Speaker 1>rely on his plentiful arsenal. Mary. Lincoln's beloved son Willie,

0:36:11.280 --> 0:36:15.160
<v Speaker 1>was Colchester's first spirit manifestation, and soon enough he was

0:36:15.200 --> 0:36:18.840
<v Speaker 1>exerting so much control over Mary that the President became concerned,

0:36:19.120 --> 0:36:22.480
<v Speaker 1>so he called in some favors. Specifically, he asked the

0:36:22.520 --> 0:36:27.440
<v Speaker 1>head of the Smithsonian Institution to investigate Colchester. When a

0:36:27.520 --> 0:36:29.960
<v Speaker 1>test wrapped up, he told the President that he couldn't

0:36:29.960 --> 0:36:33.880
<v Speaker 1>find any illegal fraud in Colchester's displayed but just because

0:36:33.880 --> 0:36:37.680
<v Speaker 1>there wasn't any evidence didn't mean everyone's suspicions went away.

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<v Speaker 1>Lincoln next turned to his friend Noah Brooks, who pulled

0:36:41.719 --> 0:36:44.680
<v Speaker 1>Colchester aside and threatened to harm him if he didn't

0:36:44.719 --> 0:36:48.120
<v Speaker 1>leave Mary alone. He had good reason to be concerned too,

0:36:48.600 --> 0:36:50.799
<v Speaker 1>you see. Even though they weren't able to collect good

0:36:50.880 --> 0:36:53.920
<v Speaker 1>evidence to charge Colchester in court, the man had been

0:36:53.960 --> 0:36:57.680
<v Speaker 1>blatantly open about his frauds. It was usually when he

0:36:57.719 --> 0:37:00.839
<v Speaker 1>got drunk a couple of pints in, and Colchester would

0:37:00.840 --> 0:37:04.120
<v Speaker 1>start to make light of his spiritual consultations. He would

0:37:04.160 --> 0:37:07.839
<v Speaker 1>start loud to mocking conversations with the spirits about how

0:37:07.840 --> 0:37:10.080
<v Speaker 1>many more drinks he ought to have, and then he

0:37:10.080 --> 0:37:12.799
<v Speaker 1>would start talking about his real motive, the way he

0:37:12.840 --> 0:37:17.759
<v Speaker 1>constantly worked his seance audiences for cash. He admitted to

0:37:17.800 --> 0:37:21.440
<v Speaker 1>one politician that he often cheated fools. He laughed and

0:37:21.480 --> 0:37:24.120
<v Speaker 1>said that it was so easy, but that's the problem.

0:37:24.400 --> 0:37:28.280
<v Speaker 1>Colchester was constantly flying through his money. He made friends

0:37:28.280 --> 0:37:31.160
<v Speaker 1>with the host of Washington's hard Party years, and was

0:37:31.200 --> 0:37:33.480
<v Speaker 1>always on the lookout for the next mark who might

0:37:33.520 --> 0:37:37.320
<v Speaker 1>be flush with cash and vulnerable to a conman's overtures.

0:37:38.480 --> 0:37:42.439
<v Speaker 1>Despite all of this, it seems Colchester did have Lincoln's ear.

0:37:42.640 --> 0:37:46.200
<v Speaker 1>At least once or twice. Noah Brooks continued to watch

0:37:46.200 --> 0:37:49.239
<v Speaker 1>the predator. He dropped in on his seances and hung

0:37:49.280 --> 0:37:54.000
<v Speaker 1>around to undermine his meetings and conversations. It infuriated Colchester

0:37:54.239 --> 0:37:56.960
<v Speaker 1>so much that, once during a seance that Brooks had

0:37:56.960 --> 0:38:01.200
<v Speaker 1>forced his way into, Colchester physically attacked him. Even so,

0:38:01.840 --> 0:38:05.920
<v Speaker 1>something must have changed after that. Maybe at some point

0:38:05.920 --> 0:38:09.120
<v Speaker 1>Colchester dropped the cheery charisma that was the cover for

0:38:09.160 --> 0:38:12.600
<v Speaker 1>all of his deceptions. Maybe he just became more insistent.

0:38:13.040 --> 0:38:15.640
<v Speaker 1>Maybe he finally had a message to pass on that

0:38:15.800 --> 0:38:19.799
<v Speaker 1>was actually believable. Whatever the case, at some point in

0:38:19.840 --> 0:38:22.680
<v Speaker 1>the spring of eighteen sixty five, in the days leading

0:38:22.760 --> 0:38:24.680
<v Speaker 1>up to the signing of the treaty that would end

0:38:24.719 --> 0:38:27.400
<v Speaker 1>the war. At Appo Mattos, Lincoln got one of the

0:38:27.440 --> 0:38:30.360
<v Speaker 1>many warnings from a government official that his life was

0:38:30.480 --> 0:38:34.040
<v Speaker 1>under threat. It was, sadly nothing new, but this time

0:38:34.080 --> 0:38:39.200
<v Speaker 1>Lincoln responded with the strange message. Yes, he said, Colchester

0:38:39.360 --> 0:38:42.840
<v Speaker 1>has been telling me that it would be natural for

0:38:42.920 --> 0:38:45.520
<v Speaker 1>Lincoln to have ignored the warnings. From the time he

0:38:45.560 --> 0:38:48.520
<v Speaker 1>took office, Spiritualist had been flooding his mail room with

0:38:48.600 --> 0:38:53.240
<v Speaker 1>letters of warning alongside demands, request for favors, and plenty

0:38:53.280 --> 0:38:57.719
<v Speaker 1>more too. A correspondent secretary responsible for checking the president's

0:38:57.760 --> 0:39:02.680
<v Speaker 1>mail later remembered that and I quote, Spiritualist favored him constantly,

0:39:03.000 --> 0:39:06.520
<v Speaker 1>and I still have in my possession urgent epistles signed

0:39:06.520 --> 0:39:09.560
<v Speaker 1>with the facts simile signatures of half the dead worthies

0:39:09.560 --> 0:39:13.120
<v Speaker 1>in our history, not to speak of sundry communications from

0:39:13.160 --> 0:39:17.200
<v Speaker 1>the Apostles and the Angel Gabriel. Of course, most of

0:39:17.200 --> 0:39:19.720
<v Speaker 1>these letters ended up in the trash, although a few

0:39:19.840 --> 0:39:23.480
<v Speaker 1>still remain. Among them are dire warnings of plots against

0:39:23.480 --> 0:39:27.239
<v Speaker 1>Lincoln's life. So yeah, it only made sense for the

0:39:27.280 --> 0:39:30.279
<v Speaker 1>president to dismiss the eager ramblings of a man he

0:39:30.360 --> 0:39:34.520
<v Speaker 1>distrusted as much as Colchester but despite the con man's

0:39:34.560 --> 0:39:37.560
<v Speaker 1>litany of frauds, this was one case in which Lincoln

0:39:37.560 --> 0:39:39.600
<v Speaker 1>would have done well to take his words to heart.

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<v Speaker 1>Not because of any kind of spiritual wisdom or special revelations. No,

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<v Speaker 1>the voice murmuring in Colchester's ear was far more mundane

0:39:48.960 --> 0:39:52.640
<v Speaker 1>than that, and it was also more dangerous because Colchester

0:39:52.760 --> 0:39:55.279
<v Speaker 1>was in a unique position to know precisely what he

0:39:55.360 --> 0:39:59.400
<v Speaker 1>was talking about. You see, one of Colchester's closest friends,

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<v Speaker 1>a drink partner and an associate, on his late nights

0:40:02.520 --> 0:40:05.680
<v Speaker 1>of carousing with someone who had been telling Colchester about

0:40:05.719 --> 0:40:10.160
<v Speaker 1>plans so dark that even the compulsive trickster himself couldn't

0:40:10.200 --> 0:40:13.240
<v Speaker 1>help but fill the chill of fear. And this drinking

0:40:13.280 --> 0:40:17.480
<v Speaker 1>associates name will sound all too familiar to most of us,

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<v Speaker 1>an aggrieved Maryland actor named John Wilkes Booth. That's it

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<v Speaker 1>for this week's episode of Unobscured. Stick around after this

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<v Speaker 1>short sponsor break for a preview of what's in store

0:40:32.719 --> 0:40:41.760
<v Speaker 1>for next week. Next time on Unobscured. Without her father's schemes, placebos,

0:40:41.840 --> 0:40:45.760
<v Speaker 1>and outright poisons rattling on the margins of every seance,

0:40:46.000 --> 0:40:48.400
<v Speaker 1>Victoria was able to give her full attention to her

0:40:48.440 --> 0:40:52.600
<v Speaker 1>clients and the spirits, and those clients paid for nothing

0:40:52.640 --> 0:40:56.480
<v Speaker 1>but her time, her words, and her sympathetic ear. From

0:40:56.480 --> 0:40:59.319
<v Speaker 1>our vantage point today, it's easy to see her work

0:40:59.360 --> 0:41:03.160
<v Speaker 1>as something psychotherapy. But while the physical wounds of war

0:41:03.320 --> 0:41:06.600
<v Speaker 1>were terrible, Victoria was most haunted by the stories she

0:41:06.680 --> 0:41:09.759
<v Speaker 1>heard from women whose lives sounded so much like her own.

0:41:11.680 --> 0:41:14.200
<v Speaker 1>Victoria would go on to spend the coming decades writing

0:41:14.200 --> 0:41:18.200
<v Speaker 1>down accounts of abuse of marriages and terrorized wise women

0:41:18.239 --> 0:41:21.480
<v Speaker 1>who hated their husbands but were forced into sex and motherhood.

0:41:21.480 --> 0:41:24.640
<v Speaker 1>They didn't want young women who were abandoned to fend

0:41:24.640 --> 0:41:29.000
<v Speaker 1>for themselves, And in all these dark mirrors Victoria saw

0:41:29.040 --> 0:41:33.279
<v Speaker 1>the suffering of her own life reflected back. Perhaps that's

0:41:33.320 --> 0:41:36.480
<v Speaker 1>why it didn't take much encouragement from James for Victoria

0:41:36.560 --> 0:41:40.560
<v Speaker 1>to turn her talents away from personal consultations. She had

0:41:40.560 --> 0:41:44.120
<v Speaker 1>started thinking about how a larger platform as a spiritualist

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<v Speaker 1>might give her the chance to fight for the rights

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