1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:25,640 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in wherever you may be across 3 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 1: this great country or this great land. It is the 4 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 1: Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show and we are off 5 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 1: and running, calling out hypocrisy across the land, having fun 6 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:41,880 Speaker 1: with you. Guys. We appreciate all of you. I don't 7 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 1: want to make it seem like we're struggling at a 8 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 1: high level, but the show is so hot on day 9 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 1: two that the air conditioner is not working in the studio. Yesterday, Buck, 10 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:52,840 Speaker 1: you made fun of me kind of because I came 11 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 1: in in shorts flip flops. I'm a pretty chill guy, 12 00:00:55,440 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 1: like a beach vacation. Unbelievable. But today he was prepared. 13 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 1: My friends, it is balmy in the studio, and I 14 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:06,119 Speaker 1: gotta call you out a little bit. We were talking 15 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 1: about how there's no mask requirement. Basically we're doing the 16 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: show from Nashville, which is my hometown. You're a New 17 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 1: York City guy. You've been lockdown for basically sixteen eighteen months. 18 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 1: I'm a lockdown expert, yes, and you are staying in 19 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 1: a hotel that is at most a half mile from 20 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:25,040 Speaker 1: the studio. Yes, you took an Uber. Yeah, of course 21 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 1: you are a New York City guy. You guys walk everywhere. 22 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:31,040 Speaker 1: And in addition to taking an Uber, you got one 23 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: of the few ubers in the city of Nashville that 24 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 1: immediately mandated you put your mask on when you've got 25 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 1: in the car, which I gotta say, I feel like 26 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 1: it's basically letting you know that you should be walking 27 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 1: to the studio from now. By the way, weather perfect 28 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 1: outside seventy five degrees in Nashville in the summer, which 29 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 1: doesn't happen that often, and you were in an uber 30 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:51,279 Speaker 1: with a mask on. I had no choice. Gotta be polite, 31 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 1: Gotta make sure that the folks feel like they don't 32 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 1: have to worry about COVID even when vaccinated, even at 33 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 1: this stage of the decline of Fauchism. But but I 34 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 1: can I take us to the world of politics for 35 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 1: a moment, mister, mister Travis, because I am concerned that 36 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 1: we may be feeling like things are going too well 37 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 1: in one area right now. The Democrats are trying an 38 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 1: enormous power grape. You know this, This is this has 39 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 1: been central in fact, from the very beginning of this 40 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 1: Biden administration. They've wanted to make structural changes. They talk 41 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 1: about things like statehood for DC and for Puerto Rico 42 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 1: right statehood. And they want to eliminate the philibus or 43 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:38,360 Speaker 1: why do I want to eliminate the filibuster because they 44 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 1: want to create a legislative steamroller effect where they can 45 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:43,799 Speaker 1: get whatever they want. I mean, they want amnesty boom 46 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 1: done fifty one votes or fifty plus Kamala as the 47 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 1: vice president as the tiebreaker. Today, Senate Republicans are going 48 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 1: to be blocking the Democrats in the Senate from this election. 49 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 1: However they call it election at Ethics Reform Bill. I 50 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 1: was not of the impression that our elections were so 51 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 1: polluted and awful that they needed reform in this regard. 52 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 1: But when you actually dig down into what has happened 53 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 1: here and what's actually going on with their efforts, you 54 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 1: see that a lot of this claim. I don't think 55 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 1: this will be a surprise to you. They're lying to 56 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 1: people about where the public actually is on things like 57 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 1: voter ID. They're lying to people about what it will 58 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 1: actually mean if you federalize elections at this level. So 59 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:30,359 Speaker 1: it's important that Republicans hold this line not only are 60 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 1: they lying and I don't really and I understand it. 61 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 1: There's always this great topic. Remember Brian Williams and Hillary Clinton. 62 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 1: Brian Williams loses his job in the media for lying 63 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 1: about being under fire in Iraq. He said the exact 64 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 1: same thing that Hillary Clinton said, she lied about being 65 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 1: under fire in Iraq too, And they went and they 66 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 1: looked at the response and they said, well, why did 67 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 1: you hold as a nation, Brian Williams to this standard 68 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 1: that you didn't hold Hillary Clinton too? And it's kind 69 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 1: of an antiquated standard back in the day, Buck, But 70 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 1: the answer was because people expect politicians to lie. Several 71 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 1: years ago, at least, there was the hope that if 72 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 1: you were a journalist, if you were a media member, 73 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 1: that you would be held to the standard of truth 74 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 1: and honey, remember when the Billy Bush tape came out 75 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:23,920 Speaker 1: with the Access Hollywood with Donald Trump. Billy Bush wasn't 76 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 1: allowed to work on the Today Show anymore and Donald 77 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:30,720 Speaker 1: Trump got elected president. Right. The disconnect sometimes between the 78 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 1: way that media and politicians get treated based on similar behavior. 79 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 1: So what upsets me is not that politicians lie, because 80 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 1: I think, unfortunately most of us have come to the 81 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 1: realization that politicians often lie, but that this wouldn't be 82 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 1: a big story. To your point, the data is out 83 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:51,599 Speaker 1: of what the American public actually supports when it comes 84 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 1: to voting bills. Do you do you think that politicians 85 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 1: lie more than journalists, because I would actually I would 86 00:04:56,880 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: argue that journalists are more dishonest now than your stand 87 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:02,719 Speaker 1: ed issue. Politis a good question. I think it used 88 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:07,599 Speaker 1: to be that there was more trust in journalists than 89 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 1: there was in politicians. I think it is now the 90 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 1: case that there is less trust in journalist. There's not 91 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 1: a lot of trust in politicians or journalists. Like I 92 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:19,720 Speaker 1: remember when you look at the professions that people trust 93 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:22,799 Speaker 1: in the country. I remember I was for a while 94 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 1: when I was practicing law, and then I moved into journalism. 95 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 1: I think lawyer and journalist are the two least trusted 96 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:32,799 Speaker 1: positions in America. Right. There have been lawyer jokes for decades. 97 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 1: The journal jokes, jerks jokes same thing are just starting now, 98 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:42,160 Speaker 1: no doubt. And also lawyers recognize that we are hired assassins. Right. 99 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 1: If you pay a lawyer enough money, his job or 100 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 1: her job is to argue your side. That's why I 101 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:51,839 Speaker 1: like not practicing lawfull time now because I get to 102 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:54,239 Speaker 1: look at all the facts and I get to choose 103 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 1: which side I want to argue. I didn't like necessarily 104 00:05:57,480 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 1: being a hired gun, because you talk to any lawyer 105 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 1: out there. You can look at two sides of a case, 106 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 1: and if you give them five minutes to review it, 107 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:06,480 Speaker 1: they'll be like, oh, I'd choose that side. So I 108 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 1: would argue that journalists are in fact very much the 109 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:12,160 Speaker 1: same as lawyers in this regard, and that people who 110 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 1: work in the media are all taking orders for a 111 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:19,359 Speaker 1: side for a constituency, and that journalism as a profession 112 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 1: of neutrality and objectivity has always been a farce in 113 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:26,280 Speaker 1: this country. It's just gotten more apparent. I think it's 114 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 1: gotten worse in social media era. And that's an interesting 115 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 1: discussion the difference, I would say between lawyers and journalists. 116 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 1: Warriors don't pretend that they're doing anything other than advocating 117 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 1: for their client. Journalists, I always like to call them 118 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 1: capital jay journalists, the people who think that they have 119 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: the most important job in America. They will argue with 120 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:51,840 Speaker 1: you that the sanctity of truth is their only light, 121 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:54,359 Speaker 1: when in reality it often isn't. But This is what 122 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:57,359 Speaker 1: a good journalist I think should be doing. They should 123 00:06:57,360 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 1: be looking at the data from the country as a whole. 124 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:02,919 Speaker 1: This is from Monmouth, right. They do a big poll 125 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:06,040 Speaker 1: dealing with this question of whether or not we trust 126 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 1: a left. They're a little liberal. By the way, monmouthskews left. 127 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 1: Just so we're all so every listening, we're on the 128 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 1: same page. Monmouthskews a little liberal. Okay, So this result 129 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 1: then is even more fascinating. The question was pretty straightforward. 130 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 1: Do you support or oppose requiring voters to show a 131 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 1: photo ID in order to vote? Eighty percent support it. 132 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 1: That includes buck ninety one percent of Republicans, eighty seven 133 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 1: percent of Independence. Do you know how hard it is 134 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 1: to get eighty seven percent of Independence to agree on anything? 135 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 1: The numbers continue, sixty two percent of Democrats, seventy seven 136 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 1: percent of white voters, and prepare for your jaw to drop, 137 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 1: eighty four percent of non white voters, eighty one percent 138 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 1: of all voters under fifty thousand dollars a year in income. 139 00:07:57,240 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 1: And yet every night when you watch not that any 140 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 1: of you should, but if you watch MSNBC or you 141 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 1: watch CNN, you turn on these shows, you want you 142 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 1: read these newspapers, they will tell you, and this is 143 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 1: the central narrative, that voter ID is racist. They will 144 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 1: say this to you. They'll say that that any effort 145 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 1: to impose voter ID. They'll even you. Remember Joe Biden, 146 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 1: I was, honestly, I'm rarely shocked Clay by how over 147 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 1: the top and dishonest Democrats are in political discussions. But 148 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 1: when Joe Biden was referring to the Jim Crow of 149 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:35,960 Speaker 1: this Jim Crow two point zero, that felt like, you 150 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 1: guys have got to be kidding me, right, I mean, 151 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 1: this is this is called the filibuster Jim Crows. This 152 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 1: is the same level of stupidity as when there were 153 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 1: there were some Democrats, including Unfortune, the former CIA director, 154 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 1: who were comparing under the Trump administration the the detention 155 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:54,199 Speaker 1: centers for migrants coming to the country to the Holocaust. 156 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:59,680 Speaker 1: So yeah, it's concentration camps, a level of stupidity beyond 157 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 1: what you would even expect from Democrats. But they keep 158 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:06,199 Speaker 1: saying that it's it's racist, night after night on TV, 159 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:08,320 Speaker 1: and then as you point out, the data show so 160 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 1: very clearly, folks, I mean, they're just lying, They're just lying. 161 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 1: Absolute This is also fascinating. Buck. Do you know what 162 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:20,440 Speaker 1: you're required to do to get a vaccine for COVID? 163 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 1: Bring a photo ID. I got my email before I 164 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 1: didn't get my vaccine. I was signed up to get 165 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:29,719 Speaker 1: the one shot because I told my wife i'd get 166 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:32,079 Speaker 1: a shot get the vaccine if three things happened. One 167 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 1: all the people who were severely in danger had had 168 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 1: their right to do it. Two there was a one shot. 169 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 1: Three I didn't have to wait. I'm impatient, so I 170 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:41,559 Speaker 1: had it scheduled. On the day that they pulled the 171 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 1: Johnson and Johnson vaccine, I was scheduled to go get 172 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 1: the vaccine. Right, I got an email Publics, which is 173 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 1: where I was getting at the local grocery store chain. 174 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 1: The email told me Buck that in order to get 175 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 1: my vaccine, I had to bring a photoid. So we 176 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 1: are a allowing an argument to be made that it 177 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 1: is racist to require a photo ID to vote, but 178 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 1: in order to get this holy Grail vaccine, you have 179 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 1: to bring a photo ID. Supreme Court's already ruled on this. 180 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 1: By the way, in the past, there's nothing there's nothing 181 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:23,560 Speaker 1: discriminatory or wrong about voter ID, and yet it is 182 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 1: one of the most misrepresented. And why are we we're 183 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 1: not just talking to this because it's we're trying to 184 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 1: have some academic discussion right now. They're trying to make 185 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 1: it so that you have a federal control. Here's the truth. 186 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 1: You want to know what really happens. If Democrats were 187 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:42,200 Speaker 1: to get their way on this, Republicans are not going 188 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 1: to win another national election for a few years and 189 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 1: maybe forever because after this goes through. If they were 190 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 1: to get let's say they get HR one, which they're 191 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:54,080 Speaker 1: not going to because of cinema the filibuster right now, 192 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 1: but let's just accelerate this a little bit. If they 193 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 1: were to get their way, and of course you've got 194 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 1: amnesty down the line, and you've got all these things 195 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:04,200 Speaker 1: the Democrats have been promising. They want to do HR 196 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 1: one for the People Act, which is I mean it 197 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:12,679 Speaker 1: does have a kind of Orwellian or Soviet vibe or 198 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 1: the four the People Act. How could you be against that? 199 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 1: It's the It's the Good People Act. If they get 200 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 1: this clay, they have such an advantage. They use COVID. 201 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 1: Here's what happened the last election cycle. They use COVID 202 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 1: as an excuse to force through under emergency circumstances, everything 203 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 1: that they thought would assist them expanding and I would argue, 204 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 1: in the case of Pennsylvania, I don't care the Supreme 205 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 1: Court didn't take it up still in an unconstitutional fashion, 206 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:42,680 Speaker 1: expanding the voting parameters and early voting and getting rid 207 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:45,079 Speaker 1: of ID requirements, all this stuff, and now they want 208 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 1: to make it permanent. That's what HR one's all about, which, 209 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 1: by the way, it's really the make Democrats a permanent 210 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 1: majority Act. That's the purpose of this. And I think 211 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 1: we agree, and we talked about this. I'm sure we're 212 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 1: going to talk about it a lot. Trump wins in 213 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:01,559 Speaker 1: a landslide if COVID doesn't happen. Democrats latched on to 214 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:05,080 Speaker 1: COVID what I call fear porn as a way to 215 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 1: beat Trump in twenty twenty. Now we can talk about 216 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 1: whether that beating in quotation marks ever actually occurred even 217 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 1: with all the parameters that were in place. But you're right, 218 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 1: they want to give themselves a permanent home court advantage. 219 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 1: For lack of a better way to say it, you 220 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 1: talked about it potentially adding once the other way with 221 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 1: the filibuster. Two seats for Washington d c two seats 222 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 1: for Puerto Rico, also expanding the Supreme Court. I mean, 223 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 1: these are monumentally radical ideas, and we're going to talk 224 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 1: about when we come back. Kristen Cinema and Joe Mansion, 225 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 1: and I think several other senators in the Democratic Coalition 226 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 1: who haven't been willing to go public yet. But Kristin Cinema, 227 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:55,720 Speaker 1: actually senator from Arizona, called out her own party in 228 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:58,840 Speaker 1: a pretty massive way buck in the Washington Post, and 229 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 1: we're gonna read you some of the lines from that 230 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:05,200 Speaker 1: argument that she made against ending the filibuster and talk 231 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 1: about why it matters. It was also just a clear 232 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:11,080 Speaker 1: abandoning of principle. It's actually like the Democrats like to 233 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:14,080 Speaker 1: show everybody that whatever they said a year ago, whatever 234 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:17,440 Speaker 1: they said five years ago, irrelevant to where they are now. 235 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 1: As long as they can achieve power, that is the soul. 236 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 1: The unifying goal of Democrats is the relentless pursuit of power. 237 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:27,440 Speaker 1: But Clay, I also believe in the relentless pursuit of savings. 238 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:31,599 Speaker 1: When it comes to my wireless what a transition seamless 239 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 1: in fact, secret is out, folks. People are abandoning their 240 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 1: overpriced wireless carriers and flocking to Pure Talk for the 241 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 1: same coverage but at a fraction of the price. 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Kristen cinema senator from Arizona, seems 269 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 1: to be standing in the way, at least for now. 270 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 1: It is going to tell you exactly why she's making 271 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 1: that case. But first, Senator Lindsey Graham, besides that, he 272 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 1: needs to call out what he's seeing here. I light 273 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 1: Joe Mansion a lot, but we had the largest turnout 274 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 1: in the history of the United States, and states are 275 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 1: in charge of voting in America. So I don't like 276 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 1: the idea of taking the power to redistrict away from 277 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 1: state legislators. You're having people moved from blue states to 278 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 1: red states. Under this proposal. You would have some kind 279 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 1: of commission redraw the new districts, and I don't like that. 280 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 1: I want states where people are moving to have control 281 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 1: over how to allocate new congressional seat. So as much 282 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 1: as I like Mansion, the answer would be no. In 283 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 1: my view, SR one is the biggest power grab in 284 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 1: the history of the country. It mandates ballot harvesting, no 285 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 1: voter idea. It does away with the states being able 286 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 1: to redistrict when you have population shifts. It's just a 287 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 1: bad idea, and it's a problem that most Republicans are 288 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 1: not going to sign. They're trying to fix a problem 289 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 1: most Republicans have a different view of So Lindsey Graham 290 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 1: play lays out what this would do, and everyone should know. 291 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 1: These are enormous changes top down from the federal government 292 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 1: to the states, and we really want states to actually 293 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 1: be running their own election procedures for national elections. This 294 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 1: is what Democrats want. The only reason they can get 295 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 1: it is that they don't yet have the votes. Because 296 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 1: christin Cinema says, not down with this Christian Cinema and 297 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 1: Joe Mansion, and it's worth mentioning to me putting my 298 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 1: lawyer hat on here. Buck. If this bill were to pass, 299 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 1: we would spend years in litigation over whether this bill 300 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 1: is constitutional or not, and we would have all the 301 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:05,359 Speaker 1: different circuit courts weighing in. We would have all the 302 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:07,879 Speaker 1: Eventually the Supreme Court would have to step in and 303 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 1: decide this thing. It's just a colossal mess. But fortunately 304 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 1: there are enough same people who are at least staying 305 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:22,159 Speaker 1: committed to some aspect of the idea of the filibuster 306 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 1: needing to exist. And I thought that Kristen Cinema, who 307 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:29,920 Speaker 1: has a piece up that went up yesterday in the 308 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:33,879 Speaker 1: Washington Post. This follows Joe Mansion writing in a local 309 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:39,440 Speaker 1: West Virginia newspaper, basically cutting the legs out from underneath this. 310 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:43,199 Speaker 1: Kristen Cinema says, the headline is we have more to 311 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 1: lose than gain by ending the filibuster. And it's a 312 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 1: really interesting argument. But in particular, what I thought was 313 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 1: most fascinating about it is she gently, gently calls out 314 00:17:57,280 --> 00:18:00,920 Speaker 1: her entire party and says, and I'm reading directly from 315 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:04,879 Speaker 1: her peace in the Washington Post, good faith arguments have 316 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:10,920 Speaker 1: been made both criticizing and defending the Senate's sixty vote threshold. 317 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 1: I share the belief expressed in twenty seventeen by thirty 318 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:21,200 Speaker 1: one Senate Democrats opposing elimination of the filibuster, a belief 319 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 1: shared by President Biden. While I'm confident, several senators in 320 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 1: my party share that the Senate has not held a 321 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:33,400 Speaker 1: debate on the matter. 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Hope you 344 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 1: guys are having a fantastic day wherever you may be 345 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 1: out there in this great country or this great world. 346 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 1: We're talking about a potential structural challenge to the government 347 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 1: at large. As we just finished the last segment, we 348 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 1: were reading from the Washington Post editorial written by Kristen Cinema, 349 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 1: a Democratic senator from Arizona, explaining why she opposed the 350 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 1: filibuster being altered and going with a simple majority in 351 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 1: the Senate. We got a lot of people actually who 352 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 1: want to weigh in. You can always call us and 353 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:24,160 Speaker 1: weigh in. Eight hundred two eight two two eight eight two. 354 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 1: And I thought we'd hop on the line here and 355 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:31,639 Speaker 1: talk to Frank in Merritt Island, Florida. Frank, you have 356 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 1: an interesting take here that I think Buck and I 357 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:37,360 Speaker 1: wanted to explore a little bit. Well, yeah, well, I'm 358 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 1: trying to even wonder about it, But I just think 359 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 1: we should let him kill a filibus and when we 360 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:46,440 Speaker 1: get back in the House and the Senate and the Whitehouse, 361 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:51,159 Speaker 1: they will be totally true. Thanks for call, Frank. There 362 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 1: are some people out there, Buck, who would make that 363 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:56,199 Speaker 1: argument right, And I think probably what Frank's building on 364 00:20:56,240 --> 00:21:00,439 Speaker 1: there is the idea that we saw with the judges 365 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:03,199 Speaker 1: right the Supreme Court, the fact that you change it, 366 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 1: and obviously, Mitch McConnell there's an viral clip where he 367 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 1: says to Harry Reid, you may regret this day. I 368 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:11,359 Speaker 1: think you're going to regret this day and may regret 369 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:14,160 Speaker 1: it much sooner than you expect, and boom, it ends 370 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:18,160 Speaker 1: up happening obviously in twenty twenty that the Democrats change 371 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:20,399 Speaker 1: the rules and then the Republicans are able to come 372 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 1: in over the top and Trump gets three Supreme Court justices. 373 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 1: But Buck, the downside, here is something we were talking 374 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:29,120 Speaker 1: about off air, and I think it's a pretty coaching argument. Well, 375 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 1: this goes to why conservatives get so frustrated when even 376 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 1: they have a majority, which we did for least total 377 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 1: majorities for the first two years the Trump administration. Democrats 378 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 1: play wield power. They have an idea, they want to 379 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:46,479 Speaker 1: pursue it, they go for it. Conservatives, as we were 380 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:48,879 Speaker 1: joking around the break, conservatives generally when I say, by 381 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:51,120 Speaker 1: the way, I mean Republicans. Now now we're talking about 382 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 1: elected officials, not the ideology of conservatism GIOPI officials. They 383 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 1: want to cut taxes. Yes, Democrats, when they have a majority, 384 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:01,680 Speaker 1: want to change the fun to mental structures of government, 385 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:04,919 Speaker 1: change the electoral map, create an amnesty for I know 386 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:07,159 Speaker 1: it's officially eleven million, but ask anybody as I have 387 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 1: a border patrol and it's more like fifteen to twenty 388 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:12,880 Speaker 1: to twenty plus million illegal immigrants in the country. They 389 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:17,120 Speaker 1: want to make sure that they are a permanent majority. 390 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:19,479 Speaker 1: They don't want this pendulum effect. They don't want they 391 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 1: back and forth. So that's why DC statehood, Puerto Rico statehood, 392 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 1: court packing, these are all things. Supreme court packing. These 393 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:29,479 Speaker 1: are things that we could play clip after clip of 394 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:33,440 Speaker 1: Democrats in the past, including some today, who are saying 395 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 1: that they would do these things, when back when they 396 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 1: were very clear that this would be destabilizing, this would 397 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:42,639 Speaker 1: be harmful, that there should be some rights for the 398 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 1: political minority. The constitutional checks and balances. They you know, 399 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 1: there's a line. I think it's a Frank Herbert children 400 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 1: of Dude. When I am strong, or rather, when you 401 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 1: are strong, I ask for freedom because that is according 402 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:58,879 Speaker 1: to your principles. When I am strong, I demand obedience 403 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 1: because that is according to my principles. And this is 404 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:04,160 Speaker 1: the way that Democrats approach politics. When they can get 405 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 1: what they want, they go for it. When they want 406 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:09,439 Speaker 1: to make an argument about balance of powers in the Constitution, 407 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:11,679 Speaker 1: it's not because they actually believe in those things in 408 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 1: a principal sense. It's because they want they want protection 409 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:18,919 Speaker 1: from the very rules that they would implement against the 410 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 1: other side. And that's why I think the filibuster issue 411 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:23,879 Speaker 1: is so interesting now. I do think Clay that the 412 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:28,960 Speaker 1: Democrats have at least recognized that on the judge side 413 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 1: of things, there's that they did have to deal with 414 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 1: the consequences of that mushroom cloud from the so called 415 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 1: nuclear option. It is such a fascinating question to me, 416 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:42,159 Speaker 1: and that's why reading Kristen Cinema's editorial, as I just 417 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:45,160 Speaker 1: did a little bit from the Washington Post, she points 418 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 1: out first the hypocrisy here right thirty one Senate Democrats 419 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 1: opposed ending the filibuster in twenty seventeen, including President Biden. 420 00:23:55,440 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 1: You know then obviously not the president. But what is 421 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:05,119 Speaker 1: so fascinating about this is her real argument is something 422 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:08,200 Speaker 1: that is ingrained, I think in many different minds out 423 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 1: there in America. What the filibuster maintains and guarantees is 424 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 1: that we don't have massive swings based on who happens 425 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 1: to end up in power in any given year. And 426 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 1: this ties in buck you were talking about. I think, 427 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 1: really sort of interestingly there the argument that you made 428 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,159 Speaker 1: about minority and majority rights. I used to when I 429 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:32,360 Speaker 1: was in constitutional law class. I remember my professor Rebecca 430 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 1: Brown saying democracy is two wolves and a sheep deciding 431 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 1: what's for dinner, which is really kind of an interesting 432 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:41,440 Speaker 1: way to think about it. Minority rights matter a great 433 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 1: deal in our government. But you've probably heard this story, 434 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 1: maybe apocryphal over time, Thomas Jefferson and George Washington talking 435 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 1: about the senatorial saucer. Have you heard this story where 436 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 1: Jefferson would say, why did you Washington asked Jefferson, why 437 00:24:57,320 --> 00:25:00,159 Speaker 1: did you pour that coffee into your saucer before drinking 438 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:03,200 Speaker 1: to cool it? My throat is not made of brass. 439 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 1: And the argument is the Senate is the cooling mechanism 440 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 1: in our country, right, And it is such a fascinating 441 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 1: way to think about it, because if we allow the 442 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:17,920 Speaker 1: Senate to be governed by a fifty fifty tie break 443 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:21,879 Speaker 1: vote by Kamala Harris in either direction, then that Senate saucer, 444 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 1: which is supposed to cool the overall heat of the 445 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 1: temper in this country, I think, threatens to become much 446 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 1: more of a conflagation and make things that much worse 447 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 1: and that much more heated. We need a little bit 448 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 1: of coolness sometimes in this country, particularly in a social 449 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:40,439 Speaker 1: media era. When you look at sweeping legislation, though I 450 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 1: mean in the last two decades, I think is a 451 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 1: good example of this, putting aside foreign policy and wars 452 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 1: and stuff for a moment domestic sweeping domestic legislation. When 453 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 1: Democrats have the option, they go for it. Yes, when 454 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:56,239 Speaker 1: Republicans have the option, they make the Senate is the 455 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 1: cool the place for passions to go and cool off 456 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 1: or whatever. The truth is that the Democrat Party of 457 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 1: today is increasingly embracing a whole bunch of different people 458 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:11,120 Speaker 1: called cultural Marxism and racial Marxism and even sometimes economic Marxism, 459 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 1: what I would say is insanity. And as long as 460 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 1: that's the ethos that they have, they believe in. And 461 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:20,920 Speaker 1: I'm somebody that this goes back to the era where 462 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:22,960 Speaker 1: I had to deal with the Jihadis and the counter 463 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:25,479 Speaker 1: Terrorism Center at the CIA. You know, you should take 464 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 1: you should take opponents seriously and at their word, right, 465 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 1: you should believe them when they say and the radical 466 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:34,200 Speaker 1: left fringe of the Democrat Party is really no longer 467 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:38,640 Speaker 1: the fringe. They're actually they're drawing comokos, they're driving the bus, 468 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 1: and they want to create a transformation of the country. 469 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:45,200 Speaker 1: They're very open about this. They push this forward. They 470 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 1: want to use the apparatus of the state as a 471 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 1: weapon against their political opponents, which is what goes right 472 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:52,360 Speaker 1: to the insurrection narrative we hear about every day. They 473 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 1: want to use the laws to punish people that they 474 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:57,919 Speaker 1: don't like for purely political reasons. Mind you, while actual 475 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 1: violent criminals are supposed to be getting recently a pass, 476 00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:06,359 Speaker 1: these are revolutionary characteristics. These this comes from people that 477 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:10,240 Speaker 1: really do believe in a fundamental transformation of the country. 478 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 1: So while we sit here and just the factly that 479 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 1: we're even having this debate about getting rid of something 480 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,360 Speaker 1: that has been in existence in the Senate as long 481 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:21,119 Speaker 1: as it has specifically to avoid what they're talking about doing, 482 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 1: just goes to show you that, you know, we're often 483 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:26,479 Speaker 1: defending on our goal line here and thinking that we're 484 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 1: on offense. Well, I think your point is a good one. 485 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:32,199 Speaker 1: To the caller from Florida. There's a difference between a 486 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 1: tax decrease, which may end up getting taken away in 487 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 1: four years or two years or whatever else, and a 488 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:44,440 Speaker 1: fundamental transformation, because if for instance, Washington, DC and Puerto 489 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:49,320 Speaker 1: Rico became states, they're not going to be unbecoming states. Right, Like, 490 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:53,240 Speaker 1: you can change a tax rate, which what they're trying 491 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:55,159 Speaker 1: to do right now, right, You can change the capital 492 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 1: gains rate, you can change that happens all the time 493 00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 1: throughout history based on who's in a position to power. 494 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:04,200 Speaker 1: But once you give a state senators, you can't unring 495 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,720 Speaker 1: that bell. And once you decide that you're going to 496 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:10,399 Speaker 1: have fifteen Supreme Court justices, if that became the law, 497 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 1: you can't suddenly go in and just say, hey, you 498 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:16,679 Speaker 1: six Supreme Court justices, you can't exist anymore. There's a 499 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:20,160 Speaker 1: difference between advocating for a belief that you have which 500 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,639 Speaker 1: may or may not be permanent, which is typically what 501 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 1: Republicans are trying to do, and go out there and 502 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:30,920 Speaker 1: fundamentally alter the trajectory and transformational nature of our government, 503 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 1: which is what would happen if this filibuster did not exist. 504 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:37,199 Speaker 1: You look at what they've wanted from the beginning and 505 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,719 Speaker 1: what Joe Biden, I would note, he went from you know, 506 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 1: Grandpa who's always squinting and acting like he's what's going on. 507 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 1: You know, he's just sort of wandering around. He's got 508 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 1: the handlers who are making sure he doesn't call on 509 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 1: the wrong people at the press conferences. We know how 510 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 1: that goes. You got Joe Biden wandering around during the election, 511 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,000 Speaker 1: and of course Trump they made it sound like he 512 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 1: created COVID in you know, Marlago in a lab or something. 513 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 1: I mean, it was all his fault. Yeah, that was 514 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 1: the approach, that it was racist if you even mentioned 515 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:09,240 Speaker 1: China's response, event's right, And that then transformed very quickly. 516 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 1: The Biden messaging transformed after the election to okay, now 517 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,120 Speaker 1: we actually have the trojan horse. You know, the trojan 518 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 1: horse is in the gates of Troy, so to speak, 519 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 1: so we can actually allow the progressive stuff to start 520 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 1: to come out and see what they can get away with. 521 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 1: You mentioned how there are some things you can't undo, 522 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 1: you can't unring the bell. I think in some ways 523 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 1: the biggest you could roll back the four the People 524 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:34,200 Speaker 1: Act theoretically if you could actually win enough elections to 525 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 1: do it right, to get that majority, which I don't 526 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:37,960 Speaker 1: know if you could do. If it's the legal even 527 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 1: which I which is a big question, espially whether it's 528 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 1: even permissible. It's the federalization of elections, which are supposed 529 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 1: to be controlled, as we all know, by the States. 530 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 1: But amnesty is I think still the single most obvious 531 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,360 Speaker 1: extension of exactly what you're talking about. When you give 532 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:56,880 Speaker 1: people permanent legal status, the chance of you taking that 533 00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:00,240 Speaker 1: away is zero. That's that's never going away. And the 534 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 1: Democrats recognize that. Between changing and I look, I almost 535 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 1: it's like dealing with I don't want to say evil 536 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 1: geniuses because they're not that smart, but maniacal and somewhat 537 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 1: evil strategy here. They see that they only have a 538 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 1: certain period here before they're going to have to run 539 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 1: back to being a little more normal. They gotta put 540 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 1: Grandpa Joe out there to make everyone feel like everything's 541 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:23,240 Speaker 1: going to be cool before the midterms. So it's between 542 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 1: now and the real midterm cycle kicking in that they're 543 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:27,800 Speaker 1: trying to push and push and push. If they don't 544 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 1: get radical transformation in year one, they might have to 545 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 1: wait until they do a head fake in the mid term, 546 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 1: and maybe not even year one Buck because think about 547 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 1: how often the reason why Democrats have control in the 548 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,320 Speaker 1: Senate right now is because of the lack of health. 549 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 1: In Georgia right we had a special election because a 550 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 1: senator could not fulfill his term. There are a lot 551 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 1: of old people in the United States Senate statistically, if 552 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:54,720 Speaker 1: you look at the data we saw before years and 553 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 1: years ago Jim Jeffords decided to switch parties. I don't 554 00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:59,440 Speaker 1: necessarily think a Joe Mansion or a Christen Cinema is 555 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,040 Speaker 1: ever going to switch parties. But there's a lot of 556 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,560 Speaker 1: unhealthy people in the United States Senate. There's a lot 557 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 1: of people over the age of seventy. So it may 558 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,600 Speaker 1: not even be until twenty twenty two until we have 559 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:12,240 Speaker 1: some sort of health related condition that could arise. And 560 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 1: that's why so much of this is being pushed to 561 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,360 Speaker 1: need to happen right now. Why you have the auspices 562 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 1: of the crisis and everything that we're saying right now 563 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 1: about the cooling of the passions in the Senate. The 564 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 1: pressure doesn't stop on mansion on cinema and right now, 565 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,720 Speaker 1: sure they're able to and I think they like it. 566 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 1: Look attention. The Democrats have a have a John McCain 567 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:37,360 Speaker 1: situation here where I think they like the national attention. 568 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,719 Speaker 1: And there's there's a lot of it's basically a country. 569 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 1: They're as powerful or more powerful than the press. Then 570 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 1: now think of the amount of pressure and you and 571 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 1: I both know the way. The one thing that Democrats 572 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,120 Speaker 1: always do so much better than the other side. It 573 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:56,240 Speaker 1: drives me insane is all the inducements. Oh it's it's 574 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:59,240 Speaker 1: so sweet to go along with the Democrat machine. Those 575 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:04,400 Speaker 1: book deals waiting for you, those Netflix consulting deals, those professorships, 576 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,160 Speaker 1: board seats. You know, that's the stuff that people don't 577 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,200 Speaker 1: hear about when you're talking about some of these senators 578 00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:11,680 Speaker 1: right now who are who are holding the line for 579 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 1: the filipbuster. All it takes as you get a couple 580 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 1: of breaks in that damn cracks in the dam, and 581 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:19,880 Speaker 1: we got a whole different ball game all of a sudden. 582 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 1: Speaking of cracks in the dam, Warnuck obviously won an 583 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:29,120 Speaker 1: incredibly close election in Georgia. He's running next year for reelection. 584 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:33,040 Speaker 1: There's a guy who wants to run against him that 585 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 1: sports fans are really familiar with and is maybe the 586 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:40,400 Speaker 1: biggest legend in any individual state anywhere in the country. 587 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 1: Herschel Walker. Good move or bad move for him to 588 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:46,840 Speaker 1: throw his hat in the Senate ring in Georgia and 589 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 1: potentially upset this fifty fifty mess. We'll discuss that. That's 590 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:52,680 Speaker 1: going to be our poll question in the day that 591 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 1: is next. You are hanging out with us, you can 592 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 1: go vote at Clay Travis, at Buck Sexton, and at 593 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:01,240 Speaker 1: Clay and Buck. Also encourage it go follow the Twitter feed, 594 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:04,200 Speaker 1: follow us on Facebook. Make sure that you are checking 595 00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 1: out Clayinbuck dot com, where you can stream every single 596 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 1: aspect of the show. Also, podcast is up right after 597 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:12,320 Speaker 1: the show ends. Encourage you to go sign up for 598 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 1: that and also give us a five star. We'll be 599 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,840 Speaker 1: right back. Herschel Walker smart or not in the Senate 600 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:21,920 Speaker 1: this giving play Travis Deck Aheadache twenty four seventh, Join 601 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:33,480 Speaker 1: us at Clay in Buck on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram. 602 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:37,560 Speaker 1: Welcome back Clay Travis and Buck Sexton show. Hope your 603 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 1: Tuesday is going fantastically well. We're talking about the fifty 604 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:45,840 Speaker 1: fifty Senate. What's going to happen with the filibuster? One 605 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,040 Speaker 1: of the big questions has been given the fact that 606 00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:51,600 Speaker 1: he has to run for reelection in twenty twenty two. 607 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 1: Reverend Raphael Warnock, who won a close election in Georgia, 608 00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 1: who the Republicans are going to pick to run against 609 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:03,840 Speaker 1: him has become a massive storyline. And one of the 610 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 1: guys that I think would absolutely dominate in the state 611 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:13,799 Speaker 1: of Georgia is herschel Walker, legendary former running back of 612 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:17,400 Speaker 1: the Georgia Bulldogs. We just saw in the state next Doorbuck, 613 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:23,040 Speaker 1: Tommy Tubberville in Alabama, former Auburn football coach, get elected 614 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:26,839 Speaker 1: and he replaced Doug Jones after the mess with Roy 615 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:30,120 Speaker 1: Moore in that Senate election. I think the same thing 616 00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:34,200 Speaker 1: could happen if herschel Walker ran against Warnock, and herschel 617 00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:37,279 Speaker 1: Walker is teasing it in a big way. Listen to 618 00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:43,440 Speaker 1: what he posted on social media earlier this week. Hey, 619 00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:47,839 Speaker 1: what you hear that? As Holt that's what I call him. 620 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:56,080 Speaker 1: You know he's ready. I'm getting ready, and we can 621 00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:04,160 Speaker 1: run with the big dolls. So herschel Walker the National 622 00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:07,600 Speaker 1: Championship running running back for the Georgia Bulldogs, who have 623 00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:10,200 Speaker 1: not won a title since he was there. And it's 624 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:12,279 Speaker 1: a video that he put out where he zooms in 625 00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,480 Speaker 1: on that car, says he's ready to run with the 626 00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:19,120 Speaker 1: big dogs and shows a Georgia Wison plate on that car, 627 00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:22,080 Speaker 1: and many people, including me, are taking that as a 628 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:25,400 Speaker 1: sign Donald Trump has tried to encourage him to run. Buck. 629 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:28,440 Speaker 1: Are you at all intrigued by this story? Does herschel 630 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:31,279 Speaker 1: Walker for Senate in any way make sense to you? Well, look, 631 00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:35,680 Speaker 1: Kelly Leffler, you remember was appointed. That's right, right, Kelly 632 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:40,040 Speaker 1: Leffler was appointed and then defeated by Raphael Warnock. But 633 00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:44,239 Speaker 1: I think that was a perfect storm of bad timing 634 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:49,080 Speaker 1: for Republicans in Georgia. You had a lot of GOP 635 00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:53,960 Speaker 1: on GOP consternation, to put it politely, family show here consternation, 636 00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:57,879 Speaker 1: and Trump was obviously getting all the attention because of 637 00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:02,520 Speaker 1: the after election traverses and all the debates about what 638 00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,600 Speaker 1: happened there. So we lost. I mean the fact that 639 00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:08,400 Speaker 1: we lost those two Georgia Senate seats was a gut 640 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:12,000 Speaker 1: punch after getting kicked in the face on election day. 641 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,879 Speaker 1: And I think that the next time around you'll see 642 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:18,760 Speaker 1: a far more favorable environment because the great thing about Democrats, Clay, 643 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:20,800 Speaker 1: is the more people have to deal with their actual 644 00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,800 Speaker 1: results of governance, the more they realize maybe they shouldn't 645 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,560 Speaker 1: actually have them in charge. 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