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Speaker 1: This One Bill's Live presented by Calida Health. Hey, everybody,

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Speaker 1: welcome into the show. It's a lovely Tuesday. Here. Chris Brown,

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Speaker 1: Steve Tasker with you. One Bill's Lives, your program of choice,

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Speaker 1: and thank you for making it. Got plenty to discuss today,

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Speaker 1: and some interesting developments with the broadcast partners of the

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Speaker 1: NFL that we want to get into. It's our topic

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Speaker 1: of discussion. We'll explain in a moment. I don't know

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Speaker 1: about you, Steve, but you know the weather is finally

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Speaker 1: turning here in Western New York.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's warming up a little more every day.

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Speaker 1: Right, but it's like we can't quite break through where

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Speaker 1: it's short sleeve weather on a permanent basis. We're in

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Speaker 1: that in between stage now. And I know you've come

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Speaker 1: in You've come in here a couple of times. I

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Speaker 1: wore the hoodies yesterday, and all of a sudden, you're like,

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Speaker 1: because you come in here and your bill's polo. And

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Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, an hour later, you got

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Speaker 1: a sweatshirt on over it because you're like, I'm cold.

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Speaker 2: I wore double instigator hoodies yesterday. I was cold. It is.

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Speaker 2: It's it's great outside. It's beautiful out, and I'm you.

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Speaker 1: Know, I got plans for the golf season.

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Speaker 2: I'm playing golf tonight after work and and everything and

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Speaker 2: and it's.

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Speaker 1: But you're not going to short sleeves tonight?

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Speaker 2: Probably not. No, I won't go a long sleeves. Maybe shorts,

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Speaker 2: but probably not.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Not.

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Speaker 1: So the way around this for me is much like you.

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Speaker 1: I have a Bill's Polo on. I got an undershirt.

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Speaker 2: Man, Oh, you got a T shirt on or anything?

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Speaker 1: No, not a T shirt. I got a I got

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Speaker 1: the old the wife beater.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that thing they used to call them, the tank

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Speaker 2: top thing. I hate, that's right, that word that's but

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Speaker 2: you know what, it's a stereotype. I'm sorry.

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Speaker 1: But the undershirt that every Italian grandpa, that's what I

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Speaker 1: got on. And I don't care. Like they're comfortable for me.

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Speaker 1: I kind of like having free motion of the arms.

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Speaker 1: It's easier to put on deodor in the morning.

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Speaker 2: I can't use that word anymore.

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Speaker 1: Than tank topank. Just say tank top undershirt. That's the

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Speaker 1: safer way to say.

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Speaker 2: The other way say it. But yet that's I knew

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Speaker 2: what you were talking about. The rib that is not

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Speaker 2: a than top, that is not a thing for I've

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Speaker 2: never done.

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Speaker 1: That's all I need. Though, when it's when it's not

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Speaker 1: getting to seventy, when it's like only going to be

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Speaker 1: sixty something to me, For me, I gotta throw on

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Speaker 1: the rib tank top undershirt under my polar and I'm good.

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Speaker 2: I do not even own one of those.

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Speaker 1: Well yeah, if you if you grew up in a household,

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Speaker 1: if you grew up in a house dad came Alian mom.

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Speaker 2: When dad came to the to the table with a

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Speaker 2: white shirt and a tie on the.

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Speaker 1: Well no, But like what I'm saying is, if you

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Speaker 1: grew up in an Italian household with an Italian mom,

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Speaker 1: your mom bought these for you, just like she bought

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Speaker 1: her husband those. My dad had them, right, my grandfather

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Speaker 1: had him. And there I will say. They're comfortable. They're comfortable.

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Speaker 1: They give you that a little extra layer insulation. And

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Speaker 1: on a day when it's only getting a sixty eight, yeah,

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Speaker 1: and you know that breeze comes by and you're like, whoa,

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Speaker 1: if you only got one layer on it, just it

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Speaker 1: makes just enough of a difference.

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Speaker 2: I get it. And for me, I am a I'm

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Speaker 2: one of them. I'm an extreme. If Like yesterday I

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Speaker 2: got chili. I didn't put just a hoodie on. I

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Speaker 2: put one hoodie on and another.

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Speaker 1: You had another one on.

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Speaker 2: Dad, I'd like zip up twice. I had two of them.

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Speaker 2: I notice that I had like two hood the whole thing.

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Speaker 2: I had two of them on from friends. If I

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Speaker 2: want to get warm, I don't see if this will

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Speaker 2: keep me warm. I get stuff that's gonna make me

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Speaker 2: so warm that I'm gonna I do not do anything

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Speaker 2: just to see if it will work. It's gonna work.

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Speaker 1: You're turning the personal temperature dial up at eleven. I'm

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Speaker 1: to get as warm as possible as fast as that's right.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna fix the problem. And I may create other problems,

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Speaker 2: but I'm gonna fix the one that i'm thinking about it. So,

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Speaker 2: all right, that's the way I do the thing. And yeah,

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Speaker 2: so that's why yesterday instead of I had instead of

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Speaker 2: putting on a T shirt, I put on two hoodies.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. We're in that in between stage now, and I

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Speaker 1: don't know what it is because some years, as Steve

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Speaker 1: and I have discussed many times on this show, there

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Speaker 1: is fake spring one, fake spring two, and then summer.

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Speaker 1: Like there's like a week of spring and then all

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Speaker 1: might be actual spring we might be experiencing.

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Speaker 2: The consensus usually around Western New York is the winter.

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Speaker 2: People go through the winter. We you know, the snow fine,

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Speaker 2: and we've said it before on the show, but the

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Speaker 2: season where people leave town has been in the last

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Speaker 2: four weeks. When it's thirty eight and raining, people, I

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Speaker 2: gotta get out out, I am out. It's forty two,

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Speaker 2: it's raining, it's forty seven, it's raining. It's thirty eight

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Speaker 2: and raining. It's like so bad. That's when people lose

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Speaker 2: heart and they got to get out. It's not the

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Speaker 2: winter when you get four feet of snow. Everybody's hunger down.

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Speaker 2: It's like fun, you know, it's all this, you know,

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Speaker 2: it's fun stuff. It's the thirty eight and raining in

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Speaker 2: late April that that just makes you want to just

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Speaker 2: I gotta I'm leaving. I'm leaving, And that's what that's

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Speaker 2: I think the consensus that I've seen now this kind

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Speaker 2: move into Buffalo in this time coming back.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's palatable. Whether you're not quite in shorts and

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Speaker 1: short sleeves every day yet, but you're close. At least

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Speaker 1: you can see the light at the end of the great.

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Speaker 2: Thing about it is like if you go out to

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Speaker 2: the desert, and I've spent some time in Phoenix, Scottsdale, Tempee,

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Speaker 2: that kind of place. You go out there and it's nice.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you go out and it's it's you know,

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Speaker 2: really hot and all that stuff. But at one am,

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Speaker 2: it's still ninety eighth.

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Speaker 1: Back when I was doing arena football games, they play

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Speaker 1: spring and summer, and the old Buffalo Destroyers go out

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Speaker 1: to play the Arizona Rattlers in the middle of July.

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Speaker 1: And we're in Phoenix in the middle of July. And

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Speaker 1: I remember after the game, we went over to the

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Speaker 1: to the local tavern for a couple of pops. After

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Speaker 1: the game. It's eleven PM and we pass a bank,

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Speaker 1: and that's back when the banks used to have right

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Speaker 1: eleven pm.

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Speaker 2: See, the thing about Buffalo is, even if it gets

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Speaker 2: up to eighty five ninety degrees in the summer, and

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Speaker 2: I'm nice at night, you'll sleep and you get to

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Speaker 2: put it. You get to put something on, you know,

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Speaker 2: you have to get to where your whole wardrobe. You

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Speaker 2: go out to Phoenix temp you're you're not wearing it.

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Speaker 1: I walked two blocks to the tavern we went to

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Speaker 1: after the game. I needed a towel.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's crazy. So that's that's why Buffalo is awesome,

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Speaker 2: because you get it's it's not crazy one way or

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Speaker 2: the other. You know, certainly the humid you have a

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Speaker 2: it's hot, you know, hot and humid, but it's nothing

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's this is when it gets to be

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Speaker 2: elite weather in Western New York is this time of

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Speaker 2: year is when it really gets cranking. And then it

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Speaker 2: lasts all the way through late September October, and it's

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Speaker 2: it's spectacular here. Yeah, that's that's what you live for.

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Speaker 2: You know, it is the great the great season. But

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Speaker 2: the favorite season of the year is always the next

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Speaker 2: one here in Buffalo, you know what I mean, unless

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Speaker 2: it's winter, unless it's winner, well, unless it's yeah, unless.

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Speaker 1: Does anybody look forward to winter? I don't know. I

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Speaker 1: guess I don't know.

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Speaker 2: This last winner was it wasn't so bad because we

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Speaker 2: got three historic storm, three generational storms, two snow and

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Speaker 2: it was an extreme weather. But between those storms, it

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Speaker 2: wasn't it wasn't that bad.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just glad I still have a roof.

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Speaker 2: I had to get I had my guy over. We

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Speaker 2: had to replace some shingles.

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you, let's go around the NFL though, brought

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Speaker 1: to you by Collida Health, the official healthcare system of

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Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills, and as we know, a lot of

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Speaker 1: the rookie mini camps, they're all in the books now.

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Speaker 1: Across the league, a handful of teams started the previous

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Speaker 1: weekend to this past weekend. The rest of the league

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Speaker 1: got on the field this past weekend with their draft

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Speaker 1: class and undrafted rookie free agent signings, and the word

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Speaker 1: out of Colt's rookie mini camp was the coaches Steve

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Speaker 1: have been enormously impressed by Anthony Richardson's pocket awareness. We

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Speaker 1: heard all the concerns about his accuracy as a thrower,

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Speaker 1: which we know he was working on diligently in the

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Speaker 1: pre draft run up. But now there is word coming

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Speaker 1: out that Richardson is not as raw as initially believed.

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Speaker 1: What are we to make of this? It's not real

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Speaker 1: football yet, so it's kind of hard. I mean, how

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Speaker 1: do you assess pocket awareness when it's not real football?

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: I'll say this, I he would have been the guy

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Speaker 2: I took first.

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Speaker 1: Overall, it's hard to ignore that physical and I think

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Speaker 1: most people as long is his head's on straight.

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Speaker 2: And I am sure that most of what I'm saying

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Speaker 2: is because of Josh and how he improved and had

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Speaker 2: the player he became. He he's the same raw talent.

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Speaker 2: But the word has it that is only thirteen games.

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Speaker 1: Right, I mean, at least Josh played more than that.

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Speaker 2: Right, This guy, this guy the top end on. This

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Speaker 2: guy's limitless like it has been for Josh. And he's

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Speaker 2: starting from even less experience than Josh even and he's

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Speaker 2: at least as productive as Josh playing at the highest

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Speaker 2: level Joshah playing at Wyoming against you knows, lesser level

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Speaker 2: of competition, also was.

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Speaker 1: Playing with lesser talent helping him, right, not forget that.

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Speaker 2: So there was that, but this guy was due at

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Speaker 2: the top level thirteen games starting of the SEC, and

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Speaker 2: I just he was the guy for me. I thought

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Speaker 2: this draft was about Anthony Richardson and everybody else. And

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Speaker 2: I still I can still say that now because we

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Speaker 2: haven't seen him take a snap. Now, there'll be other

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Speaker 2: guys who have some success too. I think Bryce Young

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Speaker 2: will be pretty good to begin with, if he can,

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Speaker 2: if he can stand up to it physically, and CJ. Stroud,

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Speaker 2: I think he's gonna do well if the organization he

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Speaker 2: got drafted by doesn't know, doesn't ignite and burn to

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Speaker 2: the ground. Yep, all of that. But Anthony Richardson, I

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Speaker 2: and I think he's gonna be I think it's gonna

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Speaker 2: be Josh Allen two point at two point zero. Week

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Speaker 2: by week, fans of that team are gonna say, ah,

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Speaker 2: he's a little better this week, a little better this week,

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Speaker 1: We all know that Daminkan Sue is far closer to

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Speaker 2: Put me on that list. If you need, call me

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Speaker 1: more and more, I don't think in totality, but more

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Speaker 1: and more. As a matter of fact, there is a

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Speaker 1: Bills game season that will be broadcast exclusively on Peacock,

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Speaker 1: and that is their game late in the season at

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Speaker 1: the LA Chargers I think it's what is that Week sixteen?

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Speaker 1: I want to say.

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Speaker 2: It is, uh so yeah, week sixteen.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so they're at the Chargers Week sixteen, Saturday. It's

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Speaker 1: a primetime Saturday game, and that one is being broadcast

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Speaker 1: on Peacock as well. Now, there are more than a

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Speaker 1: handful nowadays of streaming services that are out there that

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Speaker 1: you can subscribe to, so we thought it would be

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Speaker 1: interesting to ask if a Bills game is only available

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Speaker 1: through a streaming service, you do, what do you do?

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Speaker 2: I get it too, And I'm a little hesitant to

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Speaker 2: ask our listeners about this because I don't know if

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Speaker 2: any of them care enough, right, I mean, for me,

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Speaker 2: most old people like me when the game comes up

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Speaker 2: and say what do I gotta do? And they switch,

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Speaker 2: I gotta pay five bucks for the service or whatever

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Speaker 2: to whatever give it to me, you know whatever. It's

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Speaker 2: because the Internet is so you know, instant gratifying, instantly gratifying.

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Speaker 2: You can just wait till the moment, then do it

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Speaker 2: if you need to it right, and wait till you

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Speaker 2: maybe you're at some you end up being at somebody

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Speaker 2: else's house and they had to do it. You don't

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Speaker 2: have to pay for it. Right, Yeah, and so it's

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Speaker 2: a little bit of a Brownian tasker issue.

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Speaker 1: Well, I will say this, and I don't think I'm alone,

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Speaker 1: which is part of the reason why we're asking this question.

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Speaker 1: I don't think I'm alone in this line of thinking.

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Speaker 1: So I am. You know, I haven't cut the cord yet.

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Speaker 1: As far as being a cable subscriber, I'm close, right.

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Speaker 1: But at the same time, there are certain streaming services

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Speaker 1: that I subscribe to, but I've got about four of

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Speaker 1: them in addition to my cable bill. I'm done doing

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Speaker 1: the Ola cart thing, right, I don't want to do

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Speaker 1: another one, right, Like I'm at I'm at the end

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Speaker 1: of my rope here. As far as what I'm willing

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Speaker 1: to budget for my television entertainment, I'm the.

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Speaker 2: Same thing I've got. I went wireless with TV, but

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Speaker 2: I've got a cable package, right, That's what I'm saying. Right, So,

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Speaker 2: but you're right. You turn your TV on and it's

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Speaker 2: it looks like the top of your phone with all

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Speaker 2: the apps on it, and you got like, okay, where

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Speaker 2: am I at here? You know that kind of thing.

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Speaker 2: So I'm it's just the way it's the world we

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Speaker 2: live in now. That's how you do it and when

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Speaker 2: you really gab something that you got to say, and

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Speaker 2: it nowadays it's so different. My kids and your kids too.

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Speaker 1: They don't they don't have this well because it looks

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Speaker 1: just like their phone, right.

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Speaker 2: They go, I don't have this Tuesday night date where

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Speaker 2: I got to watch you know, the Office or you know,

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Speaker 2: all in the family. They all in the family or

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Speaker 2: Milton Burrow. Like back in the day, like the whole

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Speaker 2: towns would shut down in the Midwest because Milton Burrell

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Speaker 2: was on Tuesday nights. The whole place would shut down.

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Speaker 2: So they go home and watch the guy. Now it's like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I just finished. It's like ten am, says, yeah, I

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Speaker 2: just binged you know the office. So it's a whole

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Speaker 2: different way to see things. And maybe I'm showing through

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Speaker 2: with my OG stuff. I'm just the old guy in

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Speaker 2: the room. It's an adjustment and I'm still adjusting to it.

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Speaker 2: But I don't know whether most people out there who

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Speaker 2: listen to us, I don't even know what they you know,

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Speaker 2: what do they do?

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Speaker 1: Well? It is a consumption thing. How do you consume

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Speaker 1: the NFL? You know, and that's number one. But if

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Speaker 1: the bills game is only available through a streaming service,

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Speaker 1: What are you doing. I'm just curious where our listening

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Speaker 1: audience is at in the realm of the a la

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Speaker 1: carte streaming services, cable television, all of that stuff. Because

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Speaker 1: NFL viewership, as we know, doesn't seem to suffer no

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Speaker 1: matter where they put it. But I gotta believe there's

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Speaker 1: a portion of every fan base out there that's just like,

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Speaker 1: oh my god, this game is only here. I'm not

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Speaker 1: paying for another service. I'm just listening to the game

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Speaker 1: on the radio this week, like I'm wondering, like what

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Speaker 1: they're what they're doing.

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Speaker 2: And here's the problem and the thing, the reason in

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Speaker 2: the NFL is a little bit of a different animal

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Speaker 2: than all the other TV that people consume, or most

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Speaker 2: people consume, and most of the other TV is because

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Speaker 2: it's right now, you got to watch it like you

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Speaker 2: don't want to get you gotta you gotta see it

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Speaker 2: when it's on, and it is appointment viewing. And that

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Speaker 2: changes it for this day and age, for these kind

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Speaker 2: of people who consume me. I'm used to that. I

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Speaker 2: gotta be okay on Friday nights, I gotta be there.

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Speaker 2: That's the way I grew up for the for my

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Speaker 2: kids and maybe people of your age. It's not like

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Speaker 2: I get I'll watch it whenever I want, and it

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Speaker 2: this doing the NFL thing where it's scheduled and you

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Speaker 2: gotta be somewhere. Does it bother people? I want to know.

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Speaker 2: I want to know whether it bothers people who are

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Speaker 2: actually like, you know, into this stuff, you know the

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Speaker 2: so I'm it's an interesting question. I didn't know if.

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Speaker 2: I hope some people can call in and give us

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Speaker 2: an opinion, because I'm really interested to see what young

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Speaker 2: people think about it.

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Speaker 1: If the Bills game is only available through a streaming service,

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Speaker 1: what are you doing? Eight oh three five fifty the

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Speaker 1: number to get on board locally outside the seven one

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Speaker 1: six calling area one eight eight eight five fifty two

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Speaker 1: five fifty the number to get on board. Curious to

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Speaker 1: know what you would do? Uh, let's go to the

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Speaker 1: phones and leading us off here today is Mark and

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Speaker 1: West Seneca. What do you have for is Mark here?

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Speaker 1: On one Bill's Live.

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Speaker 5: Hey guys, great topic. This is something I've been telling

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Speaker 5: a lot of people for a long long time, literally

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Speaker 5: several years, going to the streaming services. I don't think

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Speaker 5: is that big of a deal for most people. Like

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Speaker 5: Steve said, you know, you pay the five dollars and

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Speaker 5: you get it hooked up and you watch so now,

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Speaker 5: but now you're on the hook for a monthly fee,

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Speaker 5: which is really not that big of a deal for

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Speaker 5: most people. I believe dealing with a league of told

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Speaker 5: the two biggest things in the NFL worry about image

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Speaker 5: Number one and revenue and two are intertwined. I believe

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Speaker 5: they're gonna it's gonna be a short hop, skip and

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Speaker 5: a jump from streaming to pay per view, and they're

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Speaker 5: gonna base it on marketplaces and they're gonna say, hey,

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Speaker 5: for the price of a ticket, you can have a

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Speaker 5: houseful of people.

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Speaker 6: Uh.

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Speaker 5: In New York fifty yard line seat three hundred bucks,

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Speaker 5: that's what you're gonna get charged in Buffalo fifty yard

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Speaker 5: line seat, maybe it's one hundred and a half.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 5: And they're always, always, always about maximizing revenue, opening up

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Speaker 5: revenue streams, and they're doing this slowly because they're not dumb.

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Speaker 5: And it's gonna be, like I said, I believe, and

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Speaker 5: I don't know. I think even the day of NFL

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Speaker 5: package and be able to choose all those games that's

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Speaker 5: gonna go away too. It's gonna be you want to

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Speaker 5: watch this game, it's gonna cost you this. I want

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Speaker 5: to watch that game, it's gonna cost you that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I don't I'll say this, Mark,

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Speaker 2: and you're right about all that. I make some really

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Speaker 2: good points. I think one of the things is I

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Speaker 2: think they really have a hard time going backwards from

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Speaker 2: the NFL package. I think the Sunday ticket. If you're

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Speaker 2: gonna get all the games all the time, you can

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Speaker 2: get them, but it's it's gonna cost you. It's it's

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Speaker 2: a couple of hundred bucks now to get all the games.

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Speaker 2: I don't think they'll back off of that or your

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Speaker 2: ability to get all that. But depending on the demand

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Speaker 2: and the price point is going to be the window.

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Speaker 2: They're never gonna go away from that.

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Speaker 1: And the review is an interesting red zone proposition though,

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Speaker 1: because it is, as you know, this league is always

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Speaker 1: trying to find new revenue streams, and it's gonna would

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Speaker 1: be one way to do it.

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Speaker 2: I think what they'll probably do, and it just occurred

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Speaker 2: to me, what they'll probably do is they'll give you

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Speaker 2: the game. Like if you're in Buffalo, you're gonna get

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Speaker 2: the Bills games like you always have, at least for

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Speaker 2: the time being untilling. But now then if you want

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Speaker 2: to go pay per view, if you're say, if you

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Speaker 2: a transplant and like a lot of Bills pays would

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Speaker 2: be transplants another place. If you're living in Miami, you

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Speaker 2: get the Miami games all the time, but for a

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Speaker 2: pay per view you can get the Bills game.

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Speaker 1: For one, which is kind of what the Sunday ticket

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Speaker 1: has been.

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Speaker 2: Yes, except that you have to get to all of them.

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Speaker 2: If you want just that one team, they'll make it

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Speaker 2: so a Buffalo person in Miami can get the Buffalo

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Speaker 2: games instead of the Miami games, or in addition to

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Speaker 2: the Miami games. That would be I think a step

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Speaker 2: where they're going to go to so your team follows

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Speaker 2: you wherever you live. Bill's Mafia around the world can

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Speaker 2: watch the Bills games on a pay per view base.

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Speaker 2: I think that's one next intermediate step before every game

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Speaker 2: up for grabs.

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Speaker 1: Break time for us. Here open line for you at

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Speaker 1: eight h three oh five point fifty one eight eight

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Speaker 1: eight five fifty two five point fifty. If you're holding

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Speaker 1: their hang tight, we're wide open for your phone calls

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Speaker 1: in the next segment. If the Bills game's only available

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Speaker 1: through a streaming service, as is the case in week sixteen,

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Speaker 1: and there's a wild card game in the playoffs, it's

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Speaker 1: going to be on Peacock only.

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Speaker 2: What are you doing?

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Speaker 1: Eighth, three h five fifty to get on board. We're

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Speaker 1: back with your phone calls. Next here on one, Bill's

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Speaker 1: Live presented by Kalida Health. It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right,

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Speaker 1: back here, I want Bills Live on a Tuesday. Chris

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Speaker 1: Brown Steve Tasker talking with you about the streaming service

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Speaker 1: exclusives that the NFL is announced not only for a

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Speaker 1: wild card game that is only going to be appearing

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Speaker 1: on Peacock, but also a Bills game in week sixteen

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Speaker 1: at the Chargers on Peacock. Now, we will calm everybody

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Speaker 1: down and let you know that if you're in the

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Speaker 1: Buffalo television market, those games are obligated to be put

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Speaker 1: on network television in addition to Peacock. So if you're

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Speaker 1: here in Buffalo, you're fine. If you're outside of the

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Speaker 1: Buffalo viewing area, though, and we get a lot of

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Speaker 1: people that call this show that are outside of Buffalo.

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Speaker 1: They go to get Peacock or they don't see the game.

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Speaker 1: So and an NBC Sports spokesman confirmed the Front Office

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Speaker 1: Sports incidentally that fans must sign up for a Peacock

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Speaker 1: Premium subscription for four ninety nine a month or forty

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Speaker 1: nine to ninety nine a year to watch that NFL

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Speaker 1: Wildcard game in January. So it's gonna be very interesting.

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Speaker 1: So we're asking you today, if the Bill's game is

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Speaker 1: only available through a streaming service, what would you be doing.

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Speaker 1: We got a full bank of calls here, so we're

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Speaker 1: gonna get to everybody as best we can. We go

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Speaker 1: to Kenny in Indiana first. What do you got first?

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Speaker 7: Kenny, gentlemen, it's great to talk to you. It's an honor.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks for calling you.

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Speaker 7: Hey, I gotta say Chris Brown, if you don't mind

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Speaker 7: my saying so. All the way back to Bill's Digest,

647
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Speaker 7: I've been a fan. Who wow, and I got to

648
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 7: say Bill's. Without Bills Digests, this Indiana kid would not

649
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 7: have known anything about his Buffalo Bill.

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Speaker 1: Well, thank you. I appreciate that.

651
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Speaker 7: I've been admier ever since. But yeah, about this streaming

652
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 7: for the playoff game, I just it's a cash grab,

653
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 7: is all The is plain and simple, and it punishes

654
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 7: those who the supporters of the team who've already paid

655
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 7: and paid and paid all season, and now the playoffs,

656
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:11,400
Speaker 7: which used to be free, now obviously they're going that

657
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:13,240
Speaker 7: way too. They want you to pay for the playoffs.

658
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 7: I think of myself here in Indiana. For years, I've

659
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 7: paid for the Sunday ticket, hundreds of dollars a season

660
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 7: for my bills so I can watch my bills down

661
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,400
Speaker 7: here in Indiana. Well, what if the Bills are the

662
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 7: game that they choose for Peacock in the playoffs, that's

663
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 7: right now, I have to I got to pay for

664
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Speaker 7: that game too. I'm like, come on, and also, let

665
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Speaker 7: me do my task here. This just in not everybody

666
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:41,360
Speaker 7: uses streaming platforms. That's a big myth. Everyone doesn't use them.

667
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:44,919
Speaker 7: And there's also people out there, you know who. There's

668
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:48,239
Speaker 7: millions of Americans who when it comes to TV, the

669
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 7: best they can do for themselves is basic cable. Millions

670
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Speaker 7: of Americans. So that's a slap in the face to

671
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Speaker 7: them when it comes to something that's always been free,

672
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Speaker 7: and all of a sudden, the NFL wants to slap

673
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Speaker 7: a price to on it.

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Speaker 8: Yep.

675
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Speaker 7: So and the main thing is another thing. The precedent

676
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:08,759
Speaker 7: being said here is scary because this January it's one

677
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 7: playoff game. What about the next year, Is it gonna

678
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:12,919
Speaker 7: be two? Is it gonna be more? Yeah?

679
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:14,359
Speaker 1: Right, not gonna be less?

680
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:16,800
Speaker 2: Right. You can see, Kenny, You're right, Kenny. It's what

681
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:19,320
Speaker 2: it's kind of like turn into is the regular season

682
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 2: and then the postseason is going to be another total

683
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 2: package all of its own. You can get a good

684
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Speaker 2: friend of the show on social media. John Olson, He's right.

685
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Speaker 2: Three hundred and fifty bucks. You get all the games.

686
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 2: But if you're only gonna watch the Bills, you get

687
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:37,440
Speaker 2: the Bills game. And it's and there's ten games that

688
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 2: you can get that are not in primetime that are

689
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 2: gonna be you know, at different times. It's thirty five

690
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:47,320
Speaker 2: bucks a game that you're paying already. Now, if you

691
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,799
Speaker 2: do that during the regular season, and then somewhere down

692
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,719
Speaker 2: I'm not this is not happening now, it may and

693
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 2: which is what I'm saying, they may just say, hey,

694
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 2: here's the regular season. Now, all of a sudden, now

695
00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 2: here's the NFL Sunday ticket for the playoffs. So you

696
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:02,359
Speaker 2: got to you gotta cough up more cash. That may

697
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Speaker 2: be the way this goes. I don't know, Uh, I

698
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 2: know this is one thing. If they can do that.

699
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Speaker 2: If they do that and it sours too many people

700
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Speaker 2: on the product, they won't do it. They will do

701
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,279
Speaker 2: it in such a way is that you may not

702
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:22,320
Speaker 2: like it or may think I wish I didn't have

703
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 2: to do that, but you're gonna do it anyway. They'll

704
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 2: do it. Yeah, if they get paid.

705
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Speaker 1: By easing them in. Let's go with one game and

706
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:31,719
Speaker 1: see how that.

707
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 2: If this is a water tank, it's a graduated it's

708
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 2: a graduated impact that a little by little we're gonna

709
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:40,759
Speaker 2: go and we're gonna get to a point where the

710
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 2: only thing that's gonna change is the price tag instead

711
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:45,880
Speaker 2: of what you pay for. It used to be you

712
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Speaker 2: don't have to pay for any of it. Now it's

713
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 2: you know, you can you can pay for enhanced versions

714
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 2: of the Red Zone Sunday ticket, and now it there's that.

715
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 2: Now they're gonna say, well, now you got to do

716
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:00,880
Speaker 2: the streaming thing too. If you want these particular games,

717
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 2: you gotta pay a little bit more so you can

718
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 2: be you can see the slope there on. And now

719
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Speaker 2: it's just to me how they're gonna package it and

720
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 2: what I'm gonna have to pay to get what I want.

721
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Speaker 2: I mean, that's what That's basically what it is, right,

722
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 2: I mean, how are you gonna package it? And what

723
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:20,280
Speaker 2: do I have to cough up to watch these games?

724
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's get back to the phones. We go to

725
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:24,279
Speaker 1: Risk in Buffalo next.

726
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 2: What do you got for us?

727
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 1: Chris, Chrissy there?

728
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Speaker 9: Yeah you hear?

729
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, I can now.

730
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:37,759
Speaker 10: Uh So I told the guys. You know I'm young, right,

731
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 10: so I'm only twenty six. I'm not like all these

732
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 10: old hans out here. I like it, you know what

733
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:45,800
Speaker 10: I'm saying. Because my wife she she don't like football,

734
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 10: so we out in Walmart because you know, I do

735
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 10: what she wants. We out in Walmart. Are saying, I

736
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:52,239
Speaker 10: just fill out the phone from my earbuds in and

737
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 10: walk through the aisle.

738
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Speaker 11: You know.

739
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 10: But that's not saying that. I'm not an sit at home,

740
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 10: drink of beer on the college or scream at the

741
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:00,399
Speaker 10: TV kind of guy. I'd rather watch it on TV.

742
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:03,400
Speaker 10: But you know, with my kids and everything and everything

743
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 10: how it is nowadays, I don't have cable TV. We

744
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 10: use all you know, Disney plus Hulu and all that

745
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 10: for my kids. So it's it kind of has a

746
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 10: win win for me because every week I'm trying to

747
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:16,359
Speaker 10: find what app you know, what app I gotta use,

748
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:18,320
Speaker 10: So it is a pain, but I just pay for

749
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 10: Paramount and Peaco just in case.

750
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, I get it. Chris. So you're you're kind

751
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:24,359
Speaker 1: of at the other end of the spectrum from where

752
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 1: Kenny was. You're a guy that's completely cut the cord.

753
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 1: No more cable, it's all. It's all streaming services. And

754
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:34,320
Speaker 1: his biggest challenge is finding which one he's got to

755
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 1: use in given week to watch whatever game he wants

756
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:38,440
Speaker 1: to watch. But he's clearly a guy on the go.

757
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 1: He's in his car now, you know, and he can't

758
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,839
Speaker 1: always watch his he can't always he can't always watch

759
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 1: his game on on TV because his wife's watching something

760
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:48,440
Speaker 1: else in the house television, so he's gonna watch it

761
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:50,319
Speaker 1: on his phone or his laptop or something else.

762
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 2: That's exactly why this top is kind of interesting to me,

763
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:56,360
Speaker 2: because I'm I'm of a generation that's completely different than that.

764
00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:59,239
Speaker 2: I don't I don't get that. I mean he's and

765
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:02,239
Speaker 2: I get I've got I've got noise canceling headphones, and

766
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 2: they're great for travel. You just pop your you can

767
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 2: get on your phone. Your phone's connected to the headphones

768
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 2: and presto change o. You can't hear see you have

769
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 2: to interact with anybody. You can listen to what you want,

770
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:17,279
Speaker 2: including a game. I get that. That's not where I'm

771
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 2: at for football, and I'll do it for hockey.

772
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:23,719
Speaker 1: Plus, some people like to watch football with friends, like

773
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 1: they want the communal thing instead of just you know.

774
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 1: I mean, our last caller may want to just kind

775
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:34,319
Speaker 1: of he's got his kids watching Disney stuff over here,

776
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 1: his wife's watching some home show. He wants to be

777
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 1: isolated and watch the game.

778
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 2: Yes, that's right, and I I it's interesting how you

779
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:46,840
Speaker 2: know secular, I mean, how you know you can segment

780
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 2: what you watch. You just pay for whatever streaming service

781
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:53,279
Speaker 2: you need. You don't have to you don't have to

782
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 2: have TV at all. And I get it too. For

783
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:59,360
Speaker 2: most of us, football is a watch sport, not a

784
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 2: listen sport. Although Murphy you know, and the radio guys,

785
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:04,800
Speaker 2: they do fantastic job. When you're out and about you,

786
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm I'm like concentrating on Murph's voice in

787
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 2: your voice when you're doing the game. I'm concentrating on it, man,

788
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:14,920
Speaker 2: I'm you know well, and you don't have the views, right,

789
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:19,400
Speaker 2: and so there's that. But for the streaming services for

790
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 2: the video, yeah, I'm I mean for me, and people

791
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 2: would know I'm different than everybody else because I played

792
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 2: for the team. I worked for the team. I mean,

793
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 2: we you know, I gotta watch and that's where that's

794
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 2: my mindset. No matter what it takes, I'm gonna be

795
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 2: watching it and whether when I got to shell out

796
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 2: or not. So for me, it's a little different than

797
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 2: it is I think for the for most people. Just

798
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:47,280
Speaker 2: out of the finger quotes general public.

799
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 1: Let's get back to the phones and we go to

800
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:52,360
Speaker 1: Diana in Brooklyn. What do you got for us? Diana?

801
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:56,840
Speaker 12: Hi, I'm actually calling on behalf of all the bills

802
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:58,720
Speaker 12: backers bars around the country.

803
00:40:59,280 --> 00:40:59,400
Speaker 13: Uh.

804
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:02,880
Speaker 12: The problem of streaming, especially a streaming platform like peacock,

805
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 12: is it doesn't have a license that allows a commercial

806
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:12,880
Speaker 12: establishment to stream content to its viewers. So basically my

807
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 12: bar is not showing that game unless we illegally do it.

808
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 4: Right.

809
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 10: Yeah, problem is is like.

810
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 12: A streaming signal to be put out to ATVs in

811
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 12: a sports bar requires equipment that colust thousands of dollars,

812
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:28,279
Speaker 12: so it's kind of a hard step.

813
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 2: Yeah.

814
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 1: I mean it's like last year.

815
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Speaker 12: They worked out a deal with an Amazon Prime because

816
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 12: they moved all those games to Thursday.

817
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:36,320
Speaker 1: I remember that minute.

818
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 12: But they literally worked out the deal a week before

819
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:42,759
Speaker 12: the season, so we had no idea whether we had

820
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:45,279
Speaker 12: to go out and spend all this money or not.

821
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:48,760
Speaker 1: Right, I mean, it does. And thanks for the call, Diana.

822
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:50,840
Speaker 1: That's we're up against the break here, and that is

823
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 1: that is another element of this that's worth mentioning too,

824
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 1: knowing how Bills fans outside of Buffalo have their communal

825
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 1: spaces where they gather together to watch games. Businesses depend

826
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 1: on it, right, And the other thing about that is

827
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:09,400
Speaker 1: and I think none of us are naive enough to

828
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 1: think that the whole reason for these games being put

829
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 1: exclusively on a streaming service is to boost subscriber rates

830
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:18,399
Speaker 1: on that streaming service. That's why Amazon did the deal

831
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 1: with the NFL. I mean we were talking about it

832
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 1: during the break last year. Amazon added what'd you say,

833
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:27,319
Speaker 1: twelve million subscribers the first week that an NFL game

834
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 1: was on.

835
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 2: That's more than they get in a year. Right, it's

836
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:33,320
Speaker 2: twelve million to subscribers. New subscribers they got. And I

837
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:38,399
Speaker 2: was telling Brownie that Lebron James, Steph Curry Game seven

838
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:40,840
Speaker 2: the other night only had seven million people watching it,

839
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 2: so they got more. They got five million more new

840
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 2: subscribers just for the game the NFL actually the NFL

841
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:53,399
Speaker 2: game than they actually even watched the entire game seven

842
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 2: and Lebron and Steph. That's a that's powerful, that's really

843
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:02,880
Speaker 2: powerful in the industry. So now you got Peacock jumping

844
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 2: on that. But you're right, She's right. That's to me,

845
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 2: that's a really important aspect of this because part of

846
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 2: the enjoyment for a ton of people is to go

847
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 2: to a place and watch it together. And that means

848
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 2: a bar, restaurant.

849
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, that does it.

850
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 2: And I think it's a huge part of the culture

851
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 2: of the league and the fan bases that they have

852
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 2: those things places to go.

853
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:25,399
Speaker 1: Yep.

854
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 2: And as of this moment, it's a question as to

855
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:30,400
Speaker 2: whether those will be available.

856
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 1: Break time for us here, But if you're on hold,

857
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 1: stay there, we'll get to you. We're wide open for

858
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:36,759
Speaker 1: phone calls today and we do want to hear from you.

859
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 1: If the bill's game is only available through a streaming service.

860
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 1: What are you doing? Eighth three oh five point fifty.

861
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Speaker 1: We're back with your phone calls next year on one

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Speaker 1: Bill's Live. Stay tuned all right, one Bill's Live talking

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Speaker 1: streaming services, knowing that wild Card Playoff next January is

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Speaker 1: going to be on Peacock only, and the Bills games

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Speaker 1: on Peacock as well. In week sixteen at the Chargers,

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Speaker 1: what do you do if that's the only available way

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Speaker 1: to watch a game? Getting some good feedback so far,

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Speaker 1: we're going to continue with the phone calls and we

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Speaker 1: go to Josh in Boston, mass next. What do you

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Speaker 1: got for us? Josh?

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Speaker 14: Hey, what's up?

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Speaker 4: Guys?

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Speaker 15: How are you doing good?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 16: So obviously I'm from Massachusetts, so I got to deal

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Speaker 16: with the Patriot fans, but I mean they're not they

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Speaker 16: don't really have much to say anymore.

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Speaker 2: But that's right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's tough for me because I have to pay.

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Speaker 16: For I usually pay for the Sunday ticket because I

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Speaker 16: mean it's a little bit easier now because the Bills

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Speaker 16: are actually irrelevant. But back in the day they were

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Speaker 16: never on TV. And if the Pats are on at

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Speaker 16: the same time, then I couldn't watch the game. And

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Speaker 16: also i'd always get the Sunday ticket. It's actually a

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Speaker 16: little bit cheaper with YouTube TV, and that's what I

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Speaker 16: have for a subscriber, So it kind of works out,

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Speaker 16: but it is annoying having to keep on subscribe because

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Speaker 16: I like watching football on Thursday nights, even if it's

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Speaker 16: not Buffalo, and you know, to have to have the

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Speaker 16: Prime now to watch those games. It does kind of

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Speaker 16: get annoying.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so you're so you're you don't have cable TV anymore,

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Speaker 1: so you're technically a chord cuttery and you're doing the

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Speaker 1: streaming services. But even that gets to a point like

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Speaker 1: how many more of these do I have to get? Right?

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Speaker 14: Yeah?

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Speaker 16: And then I got And then I noticed that the

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Speaker 16: Buffalo got stuck with the Peacock game. I was hoping

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Speaker 16: we didn't get that game, so I'm like, oh man,

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Speaker 16: and then I find out now that the playoff game

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Speaker 16: is on Peacock.

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Speaker 10: I'm like, this is crazy.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, right, But I did agree with the previous caller.

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Speaker 16: But having it on your phone, I mean, I don't

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Speaker 16: I haven't missed a Bill's game in a long time.

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Speaker 16: But if there is something that you have to do

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Speaker 16: and you can't be home. At least you do have

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Speaker 16: it on the phone, so I mean it works so

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Speaker 16: in a way.

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Speaker 8: But yeah, because that's.

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Speaker 2: Right, that's right, John. You can also cast it off

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Speaker 2: your phone onto some unsuspecting television in your house, but

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Speaker 2: that you can do that as well. But uh, it is.

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Speaker 2: I think we're the point and I think Diana uh

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Speaker 2: Brooklyn from Brooklyn told us to We're to point now

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Speaker 2: where the technology needs to catch up with the user methods, right,

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Speaker 2: I mean the user habits, right, the user habits and

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Speaker 2: the technology needs to get to where they use you

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Speaker 2: don't want And I think the league is kind of evolving.

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Speaker 2: They're trying to get people to do it. But do

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Speaker 2: you shape the technology so that people can continue their

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Speaker 2: habits or do you force them into new habits with technology?

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Speaker 2: That's a you know, a line you got to walk

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Speaker 2: And I don't know what the answer is or what's

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Speaker 2: even called, but that's kind of where we're at right now. Right,

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Speaker 2: you got these streaming services and they don't make it

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Speaker 2: available to the bars and restaurants because they want individual

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Speaker 2: subscribers to come to their site so that they can say, hey,

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Speaker 2: we've got this many viewers. Well, people want to don't

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Speaker 2: don't want to do that. They want to, you know,

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Speaker 2: consume it like they have. And every time they give

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Speaker 2: the rights to a bar or restaurant that many people

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Speaker 2: may not subscribe to their service. Right, it's yeah, it's exactly.

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Speaker 2: It's the dilemma that we've been talking about.

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Speaker 1: Let's go back to the phones. It's Kevin and Hamburg.

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Speaker 1: What do you got for us? Kevin?

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Speaker 11: How you doing? How you doing? Guys?

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Speaker 2: Good?

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Speaker 11: First of one want to say is I think the

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Speaker 11: streaming being in some ways of getting out of control

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Speaker 11: in some ways. I hope you agree with that, because

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Speaker 11: I thought, can I tell you a little story real fast?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we got about thirty seconds for you. What do

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Speaker 1: you got?

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Speaker 11: I talked to a person last fall after the Tennessee

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Speaker 11: Packer game. He missed it. He's not a Packer band

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Speaker 11: and he got missed that game retaining book like Dan

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Speaker 11: Marino threw with three hundred dollars because of streaming, and

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Speaker 11: he said it was out of control. The streaming came

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Speaker 11: to be like out of control. But to answer your question,

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Speaker 11: I've been the game like important, like the Charger really

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Speaker 11: really playoff important. I guess you can go to a restaurant,

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Speaker 11: bar or listen on the radio if it's something like

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Speaker 11: Tampa Bay or washing It. Something's important but not super

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Speaker 11: super important.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: The only thing is, you know, we were talking to

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Speaker 1: the bar owner Diana and Brooklyn, and she was saying

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Speaker 1: that these Peacock streaming services, you can't broadcast to the

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Speaker 1: masses in a local establishment. Business owners can't use it. Ye,

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Speaker 1: because Peacock is trying to drive up their subscriber base

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Speaker 1: on their streaming service. NBC is trying to do that,

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Speaker 1: and I think they believe that business owners who own

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Speaker 1: bars or other areas where they can broadcast to their

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Speaker 1: patrons defeats that purpose of trying to build their subscriber

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Speaker 1: base because now people, instead of subscribing, are going down

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Speaker 1: the street to the local bar or tavern to watch

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Speaker 1: the game to avoid subscribing. I'd rather go hang out

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Speaker 1: with my friends at the bar than subscribe to Peacock.

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Speaker 1: And that's so they're trying to prevent that as well.

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Speaker 1: It's crazy. Let's jump back to the phones. Go to

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Speaker 1: Jim in South Buffalo is we got a lot of

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Speaker 1: people to get to here. What you got Jim, How

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Speaker 1: you guys doing good good.

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Speaker 14: Hey.

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Speaker 6: You know, I'm old fashioned. I'm sixty three retired, and

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Speaker 6: I'm really disappointed with this streaming stuff. I'm old fashioned,

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Speaker 6: you know. I watch it on television. And my concern

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Speaker 6: is you got ESPN Plus, which is a new thing now,

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Speaker 6: is going to be ESPN Plus two to two next year,

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Speaker 6: you know, because I have a sports package and I

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Speaker 6: came again ESPN Plus unless you pay for it.

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Speaker 7: I'm already.

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Speaker 6: I'm with you, Chris, I'm already. I'm at the line.

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Speaker 6: I'm only I don't want to pay more for Peacock

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Speaker 6: or Amazon or ESPN Plus. I'm at that point, and

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Speaker 6: I just don't agree with you know, and Peacock too.

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Speaker 6: On top of that. I'm just I'm at that point

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Speaker 6: right now. It's like, I don't know, guys, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 1: I'm not trying to be rude, but you no, it's fine, No,

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Speaker 1: this is what we want. We want opinions like yours.

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Speaker 1: And I'm glad you called because you know, there are

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Speaker 1: people all across the spectrum here, Jim. You got younger

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Speaker 1: people that say, hey, I like the convenience of watching

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Speaker 1: it on my phone. If I can't get home in

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Speaker 1: time to watch the game, and I don't use cable anymore.

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Speaker 1: All I use our streaming services, so it's fine by me.

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Speaker 1: Then there's other people like you. Uh, and there's even

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Speaker 1: the guy that we just talked to in Boston, mass

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Speaker 1: He can't watch if the game's on Peacock. He's out

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Speaker 1: of Buffalo market. He can't watch it on network television

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Speaker 1: like you can like that Peacock game. You're here in Buffalo,

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Speaker 1: you can watch it on NBC or whatever over the air.

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Speaker 1: Network is going to carry the game for us here

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Speaker 1: in Buffalo because they're obligated to do so as a league.

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Speaker 1: But if you're in Boston and you're a Bills fan,

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Speaker 1: you're out of luck.

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Speaker 2: So that's right. Yeah, thanks for the thanks for the call.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're up here at the break.

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Speaker 7: Sorry.

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Speaker 2: Last thing I would say is that that's the balance

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Speaker 2: you're that they're trying to find, and that we're all

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Speaker 2: curious about how many people are like you know John

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Speaker 2: who said, listen, I'm that's it. If it comes on

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Speaker 2: and I gotta watch it, I'm going someplace. So I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna go find someplace where I can watch it. I'm

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Speaker 2: not paying for it. And that's the line where they're

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Speaker 2: trying to find because they just they would like to

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Speaker 2: tell how much is too much? How much is too much?

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Speaker 2: How many people are gonna say I'm done? And because

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Speaker 2: I'm we're not at anywhere near it. It sounds like

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Speaker 2: we're not anywhere near the point where everybody's going, I'm

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Speaker 2: not watching the NFL anymore. Nobody's saying that, but they

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Speaker 2: are saying, I'm gonna do something different. I'm not gonna subscribe.

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Speaker 1: Find a way around it.

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Speaker 2: I'm finding a way around it. That's that's kind of

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Speaker 2: the line we're looking for. So where are you at?

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Speaker 1: If the Bill's game's only available through a streaming service

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Speaker 1: and you're at a market, what are you doing? Eight

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Speaker 1: oh three oh five point fifty to jump on board? Here,

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Speaker 1: got an open line for you, and we are wide

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Speaker 1: open for your phone call. So we want to continue

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Speaker 1: hearing from you. Jerry in Rochester will lead us off.

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Speaker 1: Jerry and Buffalo, Jim and Florida. Hang tight, We'll get

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Speaker 1: to you in the next segment. Here on One Bill's

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Speaker 1: Live presented by Colida Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio. This

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Speaker 1: This One Bills Live presented by Kalida Health. Hour number

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Speaker 1: two that we're talking to you. Got a Bills game

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Speaker 1: on Peacock in week sixteen at the Chargers. Also, an

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Speaker 1: NFL wild Card game will be exclusively on Peacock, the

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Speaker 1: streaming service of NBC. What are you doing if the

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Speaker 1: Bills game's only available through a streaming service, what are

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Speaker 1: you doing? We've got some great comments so far. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna look for some more here as we are wide

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Speaker 1: open for your phone calls at eight oh three oh

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Speaker 1: five fifty and as promised, we lead off this hour

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Speaker 1: with Jerry in Rochester. What do you got Jerry?

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Speaker 15: Hey, guys, great show, Thank you very much.

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Speaker 7: Sure, two quick things.

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Speaker 15: Number one, the we're already we're already paying for Thursday

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Speaker 15: night games. I think the damn is broken, you know,

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Speaker 15: I don't know. I don't know anybody's going back anywhere.

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Speaker 15: But the other point that really bothers me about degreed

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Speaker 15: to the NFL. As a citizen in New York State.

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Speaker 15: We are building the one in only stadium that's in

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Speaker 15: New York State for the NFL. And I think we

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Speaker 15: just wrote a check for six hundred dollars to get

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Speaker 15: that done. Like your comments, I'm going to hang up.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean public money, is a part of just

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Speaker 1: about every stadium being built. I mean, yes, you can

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Speaker 1: run down the list in New York State alone. I mean,

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Speaker 1: the Yankees got a new stadium that was privately financed.

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Speaker 1: That's the only one. The Steinbrenners built it with no,

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Speaker 1: with very little public money. But the Mets got a

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Speaker 1: new stadium with public money. The Islanders got a new

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Speaker 1: arena with public money Syracuse, and then Madison Square Garden

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Speaker 1: got renovated with public money for the Rangers and the Knicks.

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Speaker 1: The Nets got a new arena in Brooklyn with public money.

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Speaker 1: So it's been happening left, right and center. So it's

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Speaker 1: not new, and so I don't know that it's going

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Speaker 1: to change anytime soon. When that's the precedent. Yeah, so

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Speaker 1: the bills are gonna the bills, What do you do?

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Speaker 1: What do you want the bills now to have to

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Speaker 1: pay all out of pocket? I mean, it's not like

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Speaker 1: the Pagoulas aren't putting up money for the stadium, right

1077
00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:36,280
Speaker 1: they're Yeah, they're putting putting four fifty.

1078
00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:40,600
Speaker 2: Yeah they're And let's put it this way as well,

1079
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure there's a commercial lender that would have

1080
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:47,120
Speaker 2: financed the whole thing for the Pagoulas if they wanted

1081
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:49,120
Speaker 2: to do it on their own as well. But there's

1082
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:52,120
Speaker 2: public money available, it's just that simple. Then they're gonna

1083
00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:54,520
Speaker 2: use it. They don't have to pay it back.

1084
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:56,719
Speaker 1: And it's not just New York State. There's a bunch

1085
00:54:56,760 --> 00:54:59,520
Speaker 1: of other states that have put up public money for stadiums.

1086
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:02,840
Speaker 1: Look at what Nashville's doing to two point one billion

1087
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:06,359
Speaker 1: dollars stadium. They're financing sixty eight sixty five sixty eight

1088
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:07,080
Speaker 1: percent of the thing.

1089
00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:09,719
Speaker 2: Tennessee is giving more money than New York stadium. Yeah,

1090
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:12,040
Speaker 2: for a more expensive facility.

1091
00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:15,719
Speaker 1: And that's and that's the problem because if there were

1092
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:17,400
Speaker 1: other states that.

1093
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:21,680
Speaker 2: You know, that would like California right like that, that

1094
00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:22,560
Speaker 2: would balk at that.

1095
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:25,440
Speaker 1: You know, maybe there wouldn't there would be a leg

1096
00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:27,720
Speaker 1: to stand on for New York State or Tennessee.

1097
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:31,000
Speaker 2: But it's an interesting conversation because think about it, California

1098
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:34,360
Speaker 2: doesn't do that. And the Raiders left.

1099
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:36,360
Speaker 1: Now the what happened.

1100
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:38,120
Speaker 2: The Raiders left and the A's are leaving.

1101
00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:42,719
Speaker 1: The Golden State Warriors moved across the bay. They left.

1102
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:46,319
Speaker 2: The Golden State has moved. So it's the only let

1103
00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:48,319
Speaker 2: and you know, there are old guys like me who

1104
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:50,760
Speaker 2: remember back in the day, back in the late nineties,

1105
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:53,040
Speaker 2: the threat was made the bills were going to be

1106
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:56,560
Speaker 2: like you know what, the San Antonio bills or the

1107
00:55:56,880 --> 00:56:01,520
Speaker 2: Columbus bills, remember that whoever, whoever, wherever they were. It's

1108
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:04,719
Speaker 2: it's a it's a business, and.

1109
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:09,080
Speaker 1: The state business stay and there's a precedent.

1110
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:12,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a business, and the state is interested in

1111
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:15,160
Speaker 2: keeping the pay In fact that I remember that the

1112
00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:18,560
Speaker 2: building that we're sitting in, this field house where our

1113
00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:22,160
Speaker 2: studios are here on campus, back when it was built

1114
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:24,360
Speaker 2: in the mid nine like ninety five, I believe it

1115
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:26,879
Speaker 2: was built, and it was like a thirteen million dollar

1116
00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:31,640
Speaker 2: tab back then. One year of the Buffalo Bill's payroll,

1117
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 2: the payroll tax paid for it. So the state has

1118
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:38,600
Speaker 2: now been making money off of that deal ever since

1119
00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:41,960
Speaker 2: because the payroll stayed here. So that's just the way

1120
00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:45,400
Speaker 2: it works. They do a business deal and that's it.

1121
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:48,480
Speaker 2: And that's a lot there's always going to be and rightfully,

1122
00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:50,440
Speaker 2: so I'm not going to argue with him. There's a

1123
00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 2: lot of people who are very against public money for

1124
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:57,360
Speaker 2: US football stadium or some such thing like that, and

1125
00:56:57,520 --> 00:57:00,440
Speaker 2: I there's certainly that debate can be had, and you

1126
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:02,959
Speaker 2: can make a very valid point about it shouldn't happen,

1127
00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:05,920
Speaker 2: and states have come out against it, but that's not

1128
00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:09,359
Speaker 2: the way it is in New York State, and that's.

1129
00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:11,120
Speaker 1: Not the way it is in Tennessee. It's not the way,

1130
00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:11,839
Speaker 1: and a bunch of other.

1131
00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:14,759
Speaker 2: States, a ton of other states. So it's just it's

1132
00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:19,360
Speaker 2: the world we live in. And you know, i'm business owners,

1133
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:24,000
Speaker 2: I wouldn't. You don't have to like it, but there's

1134
00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:26,160
Speaker 2: no reason anybody has to apologize for it that they're

1135
00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:27,960
Speaker 2: doing business. That's that's business.

1136
00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:31,919
Speaker 1: But we're talking about streaming services for NFL games. Knowing

1137
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:37,040
Speaker 1: the playoff wild Card game for the NFL this January

1138
00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:39,400
Speaker 1: is going to be on Peacock. Only got a Bills

1139
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:42,280
Speaker 1: game on Peacock in week sixteen? What are you doing

1140
00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:44,440
Speaker 1: if that's the only way for you to view the game,

1141
00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:46,800
Speaker 1: especially if you're out of the Buffalo market. Eight oh three,

1142
00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:49,160
Speaker 1: five point fifty. Let's go to Jerry and Buffalo next.

1143
00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:53,680
Speaker 1: What do you got for us? Jerry? Jerry? Are there

1144
00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:55,360
Speaker 1: are good?

1145
00:57:57,560 --> 00:58:00,320
Speaker 7: Chris Brown and you know ask her?

1146
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:02,200
Speaker 17: I love both of you guys. You guys are fantastic.

1147
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:07,520
Speaker 17: I just have a real quick question. Sure, yeah, go ahead, okay,

1148
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:11,520
Speaker 17: And my kick that kick question is mutually, how do

1149
00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:16,320
Speaker 17: you think that DeMar Hamlin and T Higgins? Now, how

1150
00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:18,120
Speaker 17: do you approach that? I guess you know, and this

1151
00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:21,320
Speaker 17: mostly for Steve, how do you approach you know, that

1152
00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:25,520
Speaker 17: game the Cincinnati you know, going through that situation, it

1153
00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:28,080
Speaker 17: seems kind of SENSI I just want to know.

1154
00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:32,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're drifting in and out. Jerry, Sorry, I gotta

1155
00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:35,680
Speaker 1: let you go. He was asking about the rematch. I'm

1156
00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:38,080
Speaker 1: guessing Buffalo Cincinnati. Yeah.

1157
00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:41,320
Speaker 2: Brownie and I have talked at length about it on

1158
00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:46,000
Speaker 2: the air and also off the air. I think there's

1159
00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:50,840
Speaker 2: gonna be some baggage for those teams when they get together.

1160
00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:53,400
Speaker 2: There was a picture Damar was actually hanging out and

1161
00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:57,040
Speaker 2: working out with the wide receivers from Cincinnati in this

1162
00:58:57,360 --> 00:58:59,880
Speaker 2: this last off season with T Higgins and and Jamar

1163
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:05,040
Speaker 2: Chase and that crew. There was a lot that needed

1164
00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:09,040
Speaker 2: to happen for these guys to get on emotionally with

1165
00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:12,280
Speaker 2: their lives. That was left on the field in Cincinnati

1166
00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:15,400
Speaker 2: on that Monday night and going back and Brownie and

1167
00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:18,800
Speaker 2: I have both said when the when the schedule came out.

1168
00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:22,720
Speaker 2: We think it's really important that that Cincinnati game happened

1169
00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:25,760
Speaker 2: later in the season, and it is. It's November fifth game,

1170
00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:28,880
Speaker 2: Sunday Night Football. It'll be a primetime game, it'll be

1171
00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:32,960
Speaker 2: in Cincinnati. It's going to be an exact replay of

1172
00:59:33,120 --> 00:59:35,160
Speaker 2: what happened last at the end of the last season.

1173
00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:39,720
Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be difficult for some of the guys,

1174
00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:42,000
Speaker 2: not all of them, but I think they'll be a

1175
00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:46,040
Speaker 2: handful of guys at least on the Bills side, that

1176
00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:51,080
Speaker 2: are that are gonna have a hard time. I think

1177
00:59:51,080 --> 00:59:52,560
Speaker 2: they'll have a hard time.

1178
00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:55,320
Speaker 1: Because you're going back to the same place, same team,

1179
00:59:55,600 --> 00:59:56,439
Speaker 1: and it's a night game.

1180
00:59:56,560 --> 01:00:00,240
Speaker 2: It's gonna look exactly the same. I think the gonna

1181
01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:01,880
Speaker 2: have a hard time with it. I don't think there's

1182
01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:05,080
Speaker 2: any question about it. And Damar being first and foremost.

1183
01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:06,840
Speaker 2: If you know, if he's if he's on the team,

1184
01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:08,120
Speaker 2: if he's playing, you think about that.

1185
01:00:08,560 --> 01:00:12,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's hope, totally wish. Hopefully he's got other games

1186
01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:13,440
Speaker 1: under his belt before then.

1187
01:00:13,600 --> 01:00:13,960
Speaker 2: That's right.

1188
01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:17,800
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's week thirteen. I think, yeah, fourteen.

1189
01:00:17,840 --> 01:00:19,760
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, that's a good thing. I think, Yeah, I

1190
01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:20,560
Speaker 1: do all agree on that.

1191
01:00:20,760 --> 01:00:26,360
Speaker 2: I think it is. It's uh, it's actually the am

1192
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:28,440
Speaker 2: I looking at it right? Yeah, it's it's all. It's yeah,

1193
01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:31,000
Speaker 2: it's week nine. Yeah, it's week nine, so it's not

1194
01:00:31,160 --> 01:00:35,800
Speaker 2: it's halfway through the season, and I was hoping it'd

1195
01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:36,840
Speaker 2: be like week I.

1196
01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:38,360
Speaker 1: Don't know, half a season.

1197
01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:41,520
Speaker 2: Half fine, probably, I think that might be better than

1198
01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:43,240
Speaker 2: having it late in the season like it was last year.

1199
01:00:43,280 --> 01:00:47,640
Speaker 2: So I'm uh, yeah, I think it's the thing. I

1200
01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:49,760
Speaker 2: don't think there's any I think it's a really good question, Jerry,

1201
01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:51,640
Speaker 2: and I don't think I have the answer for although

1202
01:00:51,800 --> 01:00:56,920
Speaker 2: I think I think we're all waiting to see because

1203
01:00:56,960 --> 01:00:58,400
Speaker 2: it's really compelling to think about.

1204
01:00:58,520 --> 01:01:00,640
Speaker 1: There are still some steps in that process that had

1205
01:01:00,680 --> 01:01:02,919
Speaker 1: to play themselves out, so it's hard to answer that question,

1206
01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:05,160
Speaker 1: but appreciate the question, Jerry. Let's go to Jim and

1207
01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:06,439
Speaker 1: Florida next. What do you got Jim?

1208
01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:12,080
Speaker 9: Well, my son him who used to be a ball

1209
01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:17,720
Speaker 9: boy when Steve was playing. He sent me all the information.

1210
01:01:18,640 --> 01:01:22,040
Speaker 9: This year's NFL package is going to be on YouTube

1211
01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:26,480
Speaker 9: and the price has gone all the way to four

1212
01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:29,880
Speaker 9: hundred and forty nine dollars, or if you want the

1213
01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:34,200
Speaker 9: red zone, the four hundred and eighty nine dollars. Now,

1214
01:01:34,640 --> 01:01:36,760
Speaker 9: you know, we have an awful lot of Bills fans

1215
01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:40,680
Speaker 9: that aren't living near Buffalo, and that's a that's quite

1216
01:01:40,720 --> 01:01:45,880
Speaker 9: a large an amount of money to pay. Yeah, I agree,

1217
01:01:46,080 --> 01:01:46,320
Speaker 9: thank you.

1218
01:01:46,680 --> 01:01:49,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, And I think too, Jim. I said

1219
01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:51,240
Speaker 2: this earlier. I think one of the things the league

1220
01:01:51,280 --> 01:01:55,760
Speaker 2: could do to bring that price down, if the technology

1221
01:01:55,800 --> 01:01:59,960
Speaker 2: would allow it, is to allow people like you, Jim,

1222
01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:04,720
Speaker 2: to buy the team they want wherever they live. So

1223
01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:06,560
Speaker 2: if you want to say, if you want a Bills

1224
01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:09,480
Speaker 2: season ticket, you don't get all the games all over

1225
01:02:09,520 --> 01:02:12,680
Speaker 2: the league. You get the Bills and that's it. And

1226
01:02:12,800 --> 01:02:16,560
Speaker 2: I think that would give people around the country a

1227
01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:19,680
Speaker 2: chance to pick and choose what they want and not

1228
01:02:19,800 --> 01:02:22,760
Speaker 2: have to pay for everything, right and all.

1229
01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:25,280
Speaker 1: The cart streaming service right now anyway, right, So why

1230
01:02:25,360 --> 01:02:27,760
Speaker 1: not make the Ali card Ali card even more and

1231
01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:29,000
Speaker 1: let them pick their team.

1232
01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:30,480
Speaker 2: I don't know if the nf I don't know if

1233
01:02:30,480 --> 01:02:32,080
Speaker 2: the technology is in place that they can do that,

1234
01:02:32,160 --> 01:02:35,320
Speaker 2: I don't know, but to me, that would be better

1235
01:02:35,360 --> 01:02:37,080
Speaker 2: because you're right, if you're gonna watch the Bills, now,

1236
01:02:37,080 --> 01:02:38,880
Speaker 2: if you're in Florida and you and you're gonna get

1237
01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:39,240
Speaker 2: the ticket.

1238
01:02:39,800 --> 01:02:42,720
Speaker 1: You got to cough it up for everybody for everything, Right,

1239
01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:45,160
Speaker 1: You're paying for everything when maybe all you want is.

1240
01:02:45,360 --> 01:02:47,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you want, if you just want your team,

1241
01:02:48,560 --> 01:02:50,840
Speaker 2: that's the way to go. So I'm I'm kind of

1242
01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:53,520
Speaker 2: thinking that I would lean there. That would keep the

1243
01:02:53,640 --> 01:02:56,400
Speaker 2: price down so that you know, you don't have to

1244
01:02:56,440 --> 01:02:58,520
Speaker 2: pay for you know, four hundred and fifty bucks or

1245
01:02:58,520 --> 01:03:02,160
Speaker 2: four hundred bucks for all the games. And so I'm

1246
01:03:02,200 --> 01:03:04,959
Speaker 2: thinking that would be a great option if the league

1247
01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:07,040
Speaker 2: could make that happen. I don't know that they can

1248
01:03:08,280 --> 01:03:10,520
Speaker 2: because I'm an old guy. I don't know if your

1249
01:03:10,960 --> 01:03:17,600
Speaker 2: technology confuses and scares. So so that's what I'm thinking.

1250
01:03:17,680 --> 01:03:19,360
Speaker 2: But you're right. I mean, it's a lot of money

1251
01:03:19,400 --> 01:03:22,680
Speaker 2: to pay for. But like I said, you and you're

1252
01:03:22,680 --> 01:03:23,640
Speaker 2: paying for stuff you don't want.

1253
01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:26,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, if the Bills game is only available through a

1254
01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:29,560
Speaker 1: streaming service like the week sixteen game at the Chargers,

1255
01:03:29,960 --> 01:03:32,360
Speaker 1: and you live outside Buffalo, what are you doing? What

1256
01:03:32,440 --> 01:03:35,640
Speaker 1: are you doing about that NFL Wild Card playoff game

1257
01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:38,520
Speaker 1: that's only gonna be on peacock eight oh three zero

1258
01:03:38,560 --> 01:03:40,680
Speaker 1: five fifty open line for you to get on board

1259
01:03:40,760 --> 01:03:42,960
Speaker 1: one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty the

1260
01:03:43,040 --> 01:03:45,080
Speaker 1: total free number. Let's go all the way out to

1261
01:03:45,160 --> 01:03:47,560
Speaker 1: Montana and talk to Mike. Mike, what are you doing

1262
01:03:47,600 --> 01:03:48,360
Speaker 1: in this situation?

1263
01:03:49,720 --> 01:03:51,720
Speaker 14: Oh? Hey, guys, thanks for taking my call.

1264
01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:52,120
Speaker 2: Sure.

1265
01:03:52,440 --> 01:03:55,600
Speaker 14: Well, you know, I'm a native Buffalonian and I've lived

1266
01:03:55,640 --> 01:03:59,160
Speaker 14: outside of Buffalo for the most of my life, and

1267
01:03:59,680 --> 01:04:00,840
Speaker 14: for the last twenty.

1268
01:04:00,640 --> 01:04:03,560
Speaker 7: Five years, I've been out of market.

1269
01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:06,600
Speaker 14: So I subscribe to the Sunday Ticket and I have

1270
01:04:06,800 --> 01:04:10,720
Speaker 14: never missed a Buffalo Bills game that's you know, on

1271
01:04:11,600 --> 01:04:15,880
Speaker 14: normal television because of that. So this year, the short

1272
01:04:15,960 --> 01:04:19,680
Speaker 14: answer to your first question, I'm gonna subscribe to Peacock

1273
01:04:20,160 --> 01:04:24,120
Speaker 14: right because I don't like it. I think it stinks.

1274
01:04:24,400 --> 01:04:27,280
Speaker 14: I think that your suggestion about being able to do

1275
01:04:27,360 --> 01:04:32,600
Speaker 14: an ala cart Buffalo Bill's only menu that makes like

1276
01:04:32,880 --> 01:04:38,680
Speaker 14: a brilliant sense to me. I believe that technology exists.

1277
01:04:39,080 --> 01:04:43,240
Speaker 14: I've experienced a lots of weird things with having to

1278
01:04:43,520 --> 01:04:46,080
Speaker 14: use the Sunday Ticket to watch every football game for

1279
01:04:46,120 --> 01:04:47,080
Speaker 14: the last twenty.

1280
01:04:46,840 --> 01:04:49,320
Speaker 7: Five years, you know.

1281
01:04:49,560 --> 01:04:53,480
Speaker 14: So this year, yeah, I'm going to subscribe to YouTube.

1282
01:04:55,120 --> 01:04:55,320
Speaker 17: You know.

1283
01:04:55,480 --> 01:04:58,040
Speaker 14: I mean, it wasn't cheap to get the Sunday Ticket either,

1284
01:04:58,280 --> 01:04:58,440
Speaker 14: you know.

1285
01:04:58,640 --> 01:05:01,640
Speaker 10: But but you know, that's just the way it is.

1286
01:05:02,080 --> 01:05:03,600
Speaker 14: I'm not going to miss a Gold game.

1287
01:05:03,680 --> 01:05:06,560
Speaker 10: I mean, I I live for the football season, so

1288
01:05:06,880 --> 01:05:08,160
Speaker 10: I'll just do what I have to do.

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Speaker 1: I guess, all right, fair enough, Mike. I appreciate the

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Speaker 1: phone call. It's that's what people out of market are doing, Steve.

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01:05:15,600 --> 01:05:18,160
Speaker 1: They got they got to They may not want to

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Speaker 1: do it, but they got to do it if they

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Speaker 1: want to see it or a playoff game this January.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Brownie, and I don't see this like all our listeners.

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01:05:24,680 --> 01:05:27,320
Speaker 2: We don't see this corporately, you know, we see it.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, we're just talking about the personal view Montana, Mike.

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01:05:31,160 --> 01:05:35,000
Speaker 2: We're just like, you know, reluctantly, I'm anna pay, Yeah,

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01:05:35,320 --> 01:05:37,720
Speaker 2: but I'm reluctant to do it. So they haven't got

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Speaker 2: to that line. I And thank you for your compliment.

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01:05:41,200 --> 01:05:43,920
Speaker 2: I think it's brilliant too, because it's my idea. They

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Speaker 2: should they should just be allowed to buy. You know,

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01:05:46,880 --> 01:05:49,440
Speaker 2: if we're at this point with this technology, if I'm

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01:05:49,560 --> 01:05:53,000
Speaker 2: living in Montana like Mike is, I want to buy

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01:05:53,040 --> 01:05:55,880
Speaker 2: the Bills games. That's it. I don't want I don't

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01:05:55,880 --> 01:05:58,200
Speaker 2: need to be watching I don't, you know, the Sunday night.

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Speaker 2: Whatever I get in my on my regular over the AIRTV,

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01:06:00,880 --> 01:06:05,080
Speaker 2: that's fine. I'm not gonna I want the game. The

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01:06:05,160 --> 01:06:08,120
Speaker 2: team I want Yeah is my team fan of Yeah,

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01:06:08,360 --> 01:06:12,080
Speaker 2: and I'll pay that. And if it should be, you

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01:06:12,120 --> 01:06:16,240
Speaker 2: would think way less that it should be a five

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01:06:16,320 --> 01:06:18,360
Speaker 2: dollars a month thing for the for the four months

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Speaker 2: that you're in the you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: Yep.

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01:06:21,360 --> 01:06:25,760
Speaker 2: So it's not there yet, And I think too it's

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01:06:25,840 --> 01:06:29,320
Speaker 2: probably because to me, it seems like it's the business

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01:06:29,400 --> 01:06:32,120
Speaker 2: side of it that's keeping that from happening rather than evolving,

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01:06:32,160 --> 01:06:32,320
Speaker 2: you know.

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Speaker 1: Because there are probably some forces at work there, yes, right,

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01:06:35,880 --> 01:06:37,800
Speaker 1: who they are and who they are, it's kind of

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Speaker 1: tough to discern sometimes.

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Speaker 2: I think it has just gotten to the point where,

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01:06:42,360 --> 01:06:45,720
Speaker 2: because of the business demands, they never really got into

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01:06:45,760 --> 01:06:47,120
Speaker 2: the thing where you could just pick your team and

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Speaker 2: buy it right.

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Speaker 1: And the thing you have to think about is try

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01:06:50,080 --> 01:06:53,360
Speaker 1: to think of this from the network perspective. You've got

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01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:57,960
Speaker 1: networks that are paying over a billion dollars each just

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01:06:58,080 --> 01:07:02,600
Speaker 1: to have NFL games on there on their network, and

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01:07:03,600 --> 01:07:06,840
Speaker 1: they're trying to find out or trying to find new

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01:07:07,000 --> 01:07:11,360
Speaker 1: means of generating revenue so they can continue to afford

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Speaker 1: to pay for the rights to air NFL games. And

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Speaker 1: NBC looks at Amazon Prime last year and says, holy cow,

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01:07:18,880 --> 01:07:22,960
Speaker 1: they added twelve million subscribers to their streaming service in

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Speaker 1: a week, one NFL game in a week. We got

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Speaker 1: to ask for that from the league after we re

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01:07:28,400 --> 01:07:31,600
Speaker 1: up these deals. So they probably did and said, hey,

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Speaker 1: what can you do for us? We're paying you over

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01:07:34,400 --> 01:07:36,280
Speaker 1: a billion a year, and they say, all right, well,

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Speaker 1: what if we put a regular season game on your

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Speaker 1: streaming service, peacock, and what if we put a playoff

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Speaker 1: game on your streaming service? Will that do you good?

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Speaker 1: And they're like, yeah, if it does just as good

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Speaker 1: as Amazon Prime did for them last year, that'll work

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Speaker 1: for us.

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Speaker 2: It would seem to me as well that they would

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01:07:52,400 --> 01:07:56,000
Speaker 2: get a lot of really valuable data if they allowed

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01:07:57,760 --> 01:08:02,200
Speaker 2: people individuals across the country to buy whatever team they wanted,

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01:08:02,400 --> 01:08:05,680
Speaker 2: all a cart the whole season ticket, because then they

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01:08:05,680 --> 01:08:08,280
Speaker 2: would say, okay, listen, if you're NBC and you're going

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01:08:08,360 --> 01:08:11,680
Speaker 2: to get a Bills Dallas game, there's the subscriber numbers.

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Speaker 2: That's who's going to be watching that game. Those are

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01:08:13,800 --> 01:08:16,800
Speaker 2: the numbers you can absolutely count on and it would

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01:08:16,880 --> 01:08:19,880
Speaker 2: make it possible for them to do you know, cost

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01:08:20,000 --> 01:08:22,960
Speaker 2: benefit analysis, you get the and they would be able

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01:08:23,040 --> 01:08:26,519
Speaker 2: to Then it would the lead the networks in the

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Speaker 2: broadcast industry would know exactly who's going to be watching

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Speaker 2: if they get a boost. On top of that, at

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Speaker 2: least they have a baseline number where they would know

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Speaker 2: who's watching and no beforehand. That to me would be

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Speaker 2: really interesting And I don't know how they would spin

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01:08:42,320 --> 01:08:45,960
Speaker 2: that business wise to help themselves, except that they could

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01:08:46,880 --> 01:08:50,240
Speaker 2: bump the advertising chargers for that particular game because they

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01:08:50,320 --> 01:08:52,080
Speaker 2: know it's going to get a much bigger number than

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Speaker 2: the other game last week.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: I think they would really be able to carve up

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Speaker 2: their data because everybody's watching, not that they don't now

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01:09:01,240 --> 01:09:03,040
Speaker 2: they I mean maybe with the red zone they can

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01:09:03,120 --> 01:09:08,040
Speaker 2: tell who's watching what anyway, but still let the subscribers.

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Speaker 2: You would think you could get into more individual subscribers

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Speaker 2: if they could a la carte their team.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, eight oh three five point fifty local number to

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Speaker 1: get on board.

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Speaker 2: One eight eight eight.

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Speaker 1: Five point fifty two five point fifty. The Bills game's

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01:09:21,360 --> 01:09:24,200
Speaker 1: only available through a streaming service. What are you doing

1377
01:09:24,520 --> 01:09:28,080
Speaker 1: just kind of curious as to your viewing habits and

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01:09:28,520 --> 01:09:31,040
Speaker 1: how much is too much? You know, if you've got

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01:09:31,880 --> 01:09:34,479
Speaker 1: the a la carte streaming services and you don't have

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01:09:34,600 --> 01:09:37,519
Speaker 1: cable service, how many are too many to pay for

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01:09:37,760 --> 01:09:40,759
Speaker 1: that is? And maybe you're trying to split the difference

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Speaker 1: between keep an old school cable and just picking and

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Speaker 1: choosing from streaming services that have the NFL games. Because

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you right now, Steve, NBC has Peacock and

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01:09:51,760 --> 01:09:53,679
Speaker 1: they're getting two games. We know they got the Bills

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01:09:53,720 --> 01:09:55,760
Speaker 1: game in week sixteen, and we know they have a

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Speaker 1: playoff game. CBS is going to be next in line

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Speaker 1: with their streaming service, Paramount. They're gonna be like, whoa, well,

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01:10:01,600 --> 01:10:03,960
Speaker 1: we gotta get a game on Paramount. What's going on? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: They're gonna be the next network with your handout asking.

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Speaker 2: For a trek act like NFL players. If some guy

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01:10:10,280 --> 01:10:12,360
Speaker 2: other guy over here gets a contract worth this, all

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01:10:12,360 --> 01:10:14,960
Speaker 2: you gotta do is say hey me too, me too.

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01:10:15,080 --> 01:10:17,800
Speaker 2: And that's what Paramount will do. The CBS affiliate that

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01:10:17,960 --> 01:10:21,200
Speaker 2: is like Peacock for NBC. Let's say hey me too,

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01:10:21,479 --> 01:10:23,640
Speaker 2: us too. Let's let's see what it does. And you

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01:10:23,680 --> 01:10:27,200
Speaker 2: know we're gonna up our subscriber ship. And that's listen.

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Speaker 2: That is a magic elixir for the streaming services. If

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01:10:30,479 --> 01:10:34,280
Speaker 2: you can up your subscriber list by twelve million name names.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, oh twelve million, even if they're only

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01:10:36,479 --> 01:10:40,120
Speaker 1: taking you at four ninety nine a month. Twelve million subscribers,

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01:10:40,200 --> 01:10:41,920
Speaker 1: I mean, do the math. It's sixty million dollars in

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01:10:41,960 --> 01:10:45,120
Speaker 1: a week revenue. That's all profits.

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01:10:45,160 --> 01:10:49,080
Speaker 2: Signed me up, bro, Yeah, that's true. At you get

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01:10:49,160 --> 01:10:51,240
Speaker 2: and you get the whole. Here's the thing, you get

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01:10:51,280 --> 01:10:53,680
Speaker 2: the whole wide rangees. You might suspect if anybodyho's any

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01:10:54,040 --> 01:10:56,000
Speaker 2: ever spend any time on social media knows you get

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01:10:56,040 --> 01:10:57,560
Speaker 2: every end of the spectrum. You got one guy on

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01:10:57,640 --> 01:10:59,679
Speaker 2: our reply, she's got one guy going, hey, I paid

1410
01:10:59,800 --> 01:11:02,240
Speaker 2: four last week. It's worth every penny. I'll do it again.

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01:11:02,840 --> 01:11:05,280
Speaker 2: And then another guy's like going, I'm gonna illegally do it.

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01:11:05,320 --> 01:11:07,040
Speaker 2: That's an honest answer. I'm gonna find a way to

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01:11:07,040 --> 01:11:08,680
Speaker 2: do it illegally. I'm not gonna pay that.

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01:11:08,680 --> 01:11:10,320
Speaker 1: There are always gonna be people trying to find a

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01:11:10,360 --> 01:11:11,840
Speaker 1: work around. That's the right question about it.

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01:11:12,000 --> 01:11:15,600
Speaker 2: For various reason, some people refuse and won't watch. Some

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01:11:15,720 --> 01:11:19,160
Speaker 2: people refuse and watch anyway on somebody else's dime, and

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01:11:19,240 --> 01:11:22,000
Speaker 2: some people just saying, shoot, I'm in give me, give

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01:11:22,040 --> 01:11:23,680
Speaker 2: me the service home. Yeah, I got five bucks a

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01:11:23,760 --> 01:11:27,280
Speaker 2: month go, and you know, and there's everything across the board.

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01:11:28,479 --> 01:11:30,200
Speaker 2: The simple fact of the matter is when you're talking

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01:11:30,200 --> 01:11:32,639
Speaker 2: about the NFL, and this is why we you Brownie

1423
01:11:32,680 --> 01:11:34,160
Speaker 2: and I sit here and we talk about this stuff

1424
01:11:34,160 --> 01:11:40,320
Speaker 2: and we shake our heads. The NFL is like it's

1425
01:11:40,439 --> 01:11:43,160
Speaker 2: like the Earth moves when it does something. I mean,

1426
01:11:43,240 --> 01:11:46,639
Speaker 2: you're talking massive numbers of people who are interested.

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01:11:46,680 --> 01:11:48,400
Speaker 1: Think about the NFL schedule last week.

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01:11:48,520 --> 01:11:52,960
Speaker 2: Oh my god, listen, a schedule that we already knew

1429
01:11:52,960 --> 01:11:56,360
Speaker 2: who they were playing. This is just like when like

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01:11:56,520 --> 01:11:58,599
Speaker 2: I knew we were you, we had all the names,

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01:11:58,640 --> 01:12:00,479
Speaker 2: we knew who we were playing. We knew this, we

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01:12:00,640 --> 01:12:05,400
Speaker 2: just didn't know when. And we put out a standalone

1433
01:12:05,520 --> 01:12:10,920
Speaker 2: broadcast and made social videos. Every team had social for

1434
01:12:11,520 --> 01:12:16,120
Speaker 2: a schedule. We already knew. Dude.

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Speaker 1: That is massive.

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01:12:18,400 --> 01:12:22,880
Speaker 2: We are we are, We're nuts, we are absolutely our

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01:12:23,240 --> 01:12:24,759
Speaker 2: our priorities are complete.

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01:12:24,800 --> 01:12:26,880
Speaker 1: That's why, and that's why you're seeing what you're seeing here.

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01:12:26,960 --> 01:12:30,760
Speaker 1: It's why you're seeing a playoff game being streamed on

1440
01:12:30,840 --> 01:12:34,040
Speaker 1: a streaming service only because they believe that there is

1441
01:12:34,160 --> 01:12:38,200
Speaker 1: enough of an appetite, not only for NFL football playoff football,

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01:12:38,600 --> 01:12:42,200
Speaker 1: that people will subscribe to watch that game.

1443
01:12:42,320 --> 01:12:46,960
Speaker 2: You gotta feel it. It's even now, fans, the interest

1444
01:12:47,120 --> 01:12:51,200
Speaker 2: is simmering, just simmering, waiting for training camp to start,

1445
01:12:52,840 --> 01:12:56,599
Speaker 2: just like bubbling at the surface. It's crazy.

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01:12:56,840 --> 01:12:58,920
Speaker 1: We got to take a break here. If you're trying

1447
01:12:58,920 --> 01:13:00,880
Speaker 1: to call in UH at eight O three oh five

1448
01:13:00,880 --> 01:13:03,120
Speaker 1: point fifty, they'll get you. So hang tight, keep ringing.

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01:13:03,360 --> 01:13:05,200
Speaker 1: We'll get you on the line and get your comments

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01:13:05,240 --> 01:13:07,240
Speaker 1: next as we take a break here on One Bill's Live,

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01:13:07,280 --> 01:13:20,599
Speaker 1: presented by Colida Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right

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01:13:20,680 --> 01:13:22,240
Speaker 1: back here on One Bill's Live. I want to get

1453
01:13:22,280 --> 01:13:24,000
Speaker 1: right to the phone since some people have been waiting

1454
01:13:24,040 --> 01:13:27,200
Speaker 1: patiently to get through. And we lead off with Candy

1455
01:13:27,280 --> 01:13:29,400
Speaker 1: and Lancaster. I think it's going to enlighten us on

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01:13:29,920 --> 01:13:32,040
Speaker 1: being able to pick your team. Go ahead, Candy.

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01:13:32,920 --> 01:13:37,679
Speaker 13: Yeah, the AHL had a package that you could purchase

1458
01:13:38,120 --> 01:13:41,040
Speaker 13: and you could follow a certain team that was one

1459
01:13:41,080 --> 01:13:43,360
Speaker 13: of the choices, and that was on a streaming service.

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01:13:43,400 --> 01:13:46,320
Speaker 13: They already have the technology in place.

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01:13:46,240 --> 01:13:48,120
Speaker 1: Okay, And that was on a streaming service candy.

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01:13:48,760 --> 01:13:50,800
Speaker 13: Oh yeah, that was on the AHL app.

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01:13:51,040 --> 01:13:53,240
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, so all right, an app for the league,

1464
01:13:53,320 --> 01:13:56,040
Speaker 1: Yeah and some of the minor leagues. There's reason to

1465
01:13:56,120 --> 01:13:58,040
Speaker 1: do that. They know they've got a fan base. Maybe

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01:13:58,080 --> 01:14:00,360
Speaker 1: they don't have a television deal, so they found a

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01:14:00,439 --> 01:14:02,519
Speaker 1: way to make sure it's accessible.

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01:14:02,520 --> 01:14:04,840
Speaker 2: To you know, it's interesting. Yeah, you can put it

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01:14:04,880 --> 01:14:07,120
Speaker 2: on an app. That's interesting too, because here's the thing

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01:14:07,479 --> 01:14:11,000
Speaker 2: I would suspect the league might give a little pushback

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01:14:11,080 --> 01:14:16,559
Speaker 2: to that having it on their own app, because if

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01:14:16,560 --> 01:14:18,720
Speaker 2: it's on your own app, you can't sell it, you

1473
01:14:18,800 --> 01:14:19,599
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying.

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01:14:19,560 --> 01:14:21,960
Speaker 1: Right, But maybe that is a tough sell for the AHL,

1475
01:14:22,200 --> 01:14:24,639
Speaker 1: Like right, I mean the AHL markets and the markets

1476
01:14:24,640 --> 01:14:25,200
Speaker 1: are smaller.

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01:14:25,680 --> 01:14:29,960
Speaker 2: AHL is looking for exposure. The NFL is selling its

1478
01:14:30,000 --> 01:14:33,280
Speaker 2: exposure piece meal, and if they put it on their

1479
01:14:33,320 --> 01:14:40,519
Speaker 2: own app, that might cut into Hulu, Plock, Peacock, Paramount, Amazon,

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01:14:40,640 --> 01:14:43,840
Speaker 2: whoever they're streaming it with. So if so, it's a

1481
01:14:43,960 --> 01:14:47,200
Speaker 2: different kind of animal with the NFL because they're looking

1482
01:14:47,360 --> 01:14:51,800
Speaker 2: to sell what they already have and the AHL is

1483
01:14:51,960 --> 01:14:56,320
Speaker 2: trying to get exposure to get anybody to watch it

1484
01:14:56,400 --> 01:15:01,799
Speaker 2: they can get it, And you're right, You're right, Cindy.

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01:15:02,200 --> 01:15:04,080
Speaker 2: The technology has got to be there. I mean, it

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01:15:04,120 --> 01:15:07,519
Speaker 2: can't be that difficult. But I don't know that they

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01:15:07,640 --> 01:15:10,040
Speaker 2: can package it or or put it out there in

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01:15:10,120 --> 01:15:13,759
Speaker 2: a way that would make let's face it, they've got NBC.

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01:15:14,479 --> 01:15:17,000
Speaker 1: Well, they've got a CBS. That's a big scale up

1490
01:15:17,040 --> 01:15:17,880
Speaker 1: from the AHL.

1491
01:15:18,120 --> 01:15:26,040
Speaker 2: Right, it's NBC, CBS, ABC, ESPN, ESPN plus Amazon and

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01:15:26,200 --> 01:15:27,920
Speaker 2: now Peacock.

1493
01:15:28,400 --> 01:15:30,879
Speaker 1: And Paramount's probably right around the corner and the CBS

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01:15:31,000 --> 01:15:31,719
Speaker 1: streaming service.

1495
01:15:31,840 --> 01:15:33,800
Speaker 2: There's a lot of partners that they got to work

1496
01:15:33,840 --> 01:15:35,320
Speaker 2: with and they don't want to. They don't want to,

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01:15:36,760 --> 01:15:39,839
Speaker 2: you know, come in that. They don't want to damage

1498
01:15:39,880 --> 01:15:43,040
Speaker 2: any of those relationships. Now they may have those relationships

1499
01:15:43,120 --> 01:15:46,320
Speaker 2: in competitive nature with the with those people, but they

1500
01:15:46,320 --> 01:15:48,479
Speaker 2: don't want to damage any of those relationships. And by

1501
01:15:48,520 --> 01:15:51,760
Speaker 2: putting the games on their own app, that's probably a

1502
01:15:51,840 --> 01:15:52,040
Speaker 2: no no.

1503
01:15:52,280 --> 01:15:54,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's go back to the phones and to Scott

1504
01:15:54,880 --> 01:15:56,639
Speaker 1: in Florida next. What do you that for a Scott?

1505
01:15:57,640 --> 01:15:57,840
Speaker 14: Yeah?

1506
01:15:58,560 --> 01:15:59,519
Speaker 1: How are you doing good?

1507
01:16:00,920 --> 01:16:01,519
Speaker 8: That's very good.

1508
01:16:03,000 --> 01:16:05,120
Speaker 3: The bills have a very unique to Catchell this year,

1509
01:16:05,160 --> 01:16:09,360
Speaker 3: it seems to me when it comes to buying. I

1510
01:16:09,439 --> 01:16:12,439
Speaker 3: have been on DirecTV for a long time because I

1511
01:16:12,600 --> 01:16:17,320
Speaker 3: love the bills and I moved away thirty years ago. Well,

1512
01:16:17,720 --> 01:16:19,560
Speaker 3: and I paid all the money and been happy to

1513
01:16:19,600 --> 01:16:23,040
Speaker 3: do it. It's a lot of money, okay, we I mean,

1514
01:16:23,160 --> 01:16:26,599
Speaker 3: look at the schedule. There's only like three or four

1515
01:16:26,760 --> 01:16:28,519
Speaker 3: games they're going to be paying for me.

1516
01:16:29,720 --> 01:16:32,479
Speaker 1: Right, It is few. But I think that the concern

1517
01:16:32,680 --> 01:16:38,040
Speaker 1: is it's they're taking an inch now. But who's to

1518
01:16:38,120 --> 01:16:40,000
Speaker 1: say into it? Because I think we can all agree

1519
01:16:40,040 --> 01:16:43,400
Speaker 1: Scott that more and more programming is moving to the

1520
01:16:43,439 --> 01:16:45,960
Speaker 1: streaming services, right, so I think there are a lot

1521
01:16:46,000 --> 01:16:48,479
Speaker 1: of people that are fearful that it's not going to

1522
01:16:48,479 --> 01:16:51,880
Speaker 1: be one or two games for very long. That pretty soon, great,

1523
01:16:52,000 --> 01:16:53,600
Speaker 1: pretty soon it's going to be the majority of the

1524
01:16:53,600 --> 01:16:56,760
Speaker 1: schedule on stream and even less on networks.

1525
01:16:59,200 --> 01:17:02,600
Speaker 3: Yes, but my point is that the more popular or

1526
01:17:02,640 --> 01:17:07,200
Speaker 3: so popular right now, that they're actually if I'm gonna

1527
01:17:07,240 --> 01:17:11,040
Speaker 3: have to pay for the big NFL packages I'm talking about, Yeah, no,

1528
01:17:11,200 --> 01:17:13,479
Speaker 3: I get it, which has been a lot of money

1529
01:17:13,560 --> 01:17:15,320
Speaker 3: for a lot of years, right, and it's still is

1530
01:17:15,439 --> 01:17:18,240
Speaker 3: happy to enjoy it. But I think this year, if

1531
01:17:18,280 --> 01:17:21,360
Speaker 3: I have to change from the direct TV to the

1532
01:17:21,720 --> 01:17:24,880
Speaker 3: the other one, it seems to me it's like only

1533
01:17:24,920 --> 01:17:27,840
Speaker 3: two or three games if I really think.

1534
01:17:27,720 --> 01:17:29,439
Speaker 1: About it, that's right.

1535
01:17:29,560 --> 01:17:32,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, that's right. That's so you.

1536
01:17:32,840 --> 01:17:34,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you still have to step outside of your

1537
01:17:34,840 --> 01:17:37,800
Speaker 1: normal you're I mean, you're a direct TV guy, but

1538
01:17:38,320 --> 01:17:41,920
Speaker 1: to watch that playoff game, yeah, I think you have

1539
01:17:42,120 --> 01:17:43,840
Speaker 1: to get peacock even if you.

1540
01:17:44,000 --> 01:17:46,320
Speaker 2: Well, if you think about this, you can equate this

1541
01:17:46,439 --> 01:17:48,479
Speaker 2: to the music industry in one way, shape or form,

1542
01:17:48,520 --> 01:17:51,439
Speaker 2: because music, it took a long time for music to

1543
01:17:51,520 --> 01:17:53,639
Speaker 2: make the change. Well not, it didn't take that long

1544
01:17:53,720 --> 01:17:57,200
Speaker 2: because most people have their favorite music in some way,

1545
01:17:57,240 --> 01:17:59,879
Speaker 2: shape or fashion already with them. They either on albums

1546
01:18:00,360 --> 01:18:02,400
Speaker 2: or and then on c it was it was eight

1547
01:18:02,520 --> 01:18:07,360
Speaker 2: track because record, and then and then it became digital

1548
01:18:07,800 --> 01:18:09,760
Speaker 2: and then everything kind of the roof came off. Then

1549
01:18:09,800 --> 01:18:11,080
Speaker 2: you could you know, and then you have apps and

1550
01:18:11,120 --> 01:18:12,600
Speaker 2: you can get it any time you want. But it

1551
01:18:12,680 --> 01:18:15,040
Speaker 2: took a while to get there. It's going to be

1552
01:18:15,120 --> 01:18:17,240
Speaker 2: the same way with this and the way you consume

1553
01:18:17,360 --> 01:18:20,840
Speaker 2: this and the way it becomes accessible a lot of people.

1554
01:18:21,520 --> 01:18:23,360
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know that there's anybody with it

1555
01:18:24,120 --> 01:18:26,120
Speaker 2: that still goes back and waits for the TV to

1556
01:18:26,200 --> 01:18:30,200
Speaker 2: warm up, you know, the way we did with We're kids,

1557
01:18:31,240 --> 01:18:36,120
Speaker 2: but now everybody is trying to learn and find their

1558
01:18:36,160 --> 01:18:39,920
Speaker 2: own way in a marketplace that's trying to manipulate people

1559
01:18:39,960 --> 01:18:42,200
Speaker 2: into getting to the same place, right, you know what

1560
01:18:42,240 --> 01:18:45,479
Speaker 2: I'm saying. Uh So, you know they want they want,

1561
01:18:45,680 --> 01:18:47,800
Speaker 2: you know, Scott in Florida to be in the same

1562
01:18:47,840 --> 01:18:50,000
Speaker 2: place as our friend Mike in Montana. They want them

1563
01:18:50,000 --> 01:18:51,639
Speaker 2: to do it the same way, get it the same way,

1564
01:18:51,720 --> 01:18:54,080
Speaker 2: and be able to quantify it and monetize it.

1565
01:18:54,120 --> 01:18:56,559
Speaker 1: And then they'll build out how many games are there

1566
01:18:56,720 --> 01:18:59,040
Speaker 1: once they get the people to Once they get the

1567
01:18:59,080 --> 01:19:02,160
Speaker 1: people to the desk nation and enough numbers, then watch

1568
01:19:02,240 --> 01:19:04,800
Speaker 1: the amount of programming expand I think that's how it's

1569
01:19:04,800 --> 01:19:05,120
Speaker 1: gonna go.

1570
01:19:05,360 --> 01:19:08,519
Speaker 2: We're caught in a in an evolutionary process here at

1571
01:19:08,640 --> 01:19:11,760
Speaker 2: broadcast industry, and we're all trying to find our way.

1572
01:19:11,800 --> 01:19:13,559
Speaker 2: And that's why we asked the question today, and it's

1573
01:19:13,840 --> 01:19:15,120
Speaker 2: we're getting a lot of answers.

1574
01:19:15,360 --> 01:19:17,000
Speaker 1: Let's go to Ken in Atlanta next. What do you

1575
01:19:17,040 --> 01:19:17,639
Speaker 1: got for his Ken?

1576
01:19:19,200 --> 01:19:20,000
Speaker 4: How you doing, guys?

1577
01:19:20,320 --> 01:19:20,519
Speaker 1: Good?

1578
01:19:21,680 --> 01:19:23,400
Speaker 4: That's great, Hey, I got a way to do it.

1579
01:19:23,479 --> 01:19:27,519
Speaker 4: I actually bought me a firestick and I downloaded all

1580
01:19:27,600 --> 01:19:29,679
Speaker 4: the Buffalo channels from up there, so I could actually

1581
01:19:29,720 --> 01:19:34,160
Speaker 4: watch actual Buffalo Bill's Network on NBC every weekend.

1582
01:19:34,560 --> 01:19:36,519
Speaker 1: Well there you go. All right, Well that's one to

1583
01:19:36,600 --> 01:19:36,880
Speaker 1: grow on.

1584
01:19:37,960 --> 01:19:38,120
Speaker 7: Yo.

1585
01:19:38,400 --> 01:19:40,840
Speaker 4: Oh I love it. I love it. Well. Actually, a

1586
01:19:40,880 --> 01:19:43,720
Speaker 4: bunch of my buddies down here, we are part of

1587
01:19:43,760 --> 01:19:45,880
Speaker 4: the Bill's Mafius in this far away and too. We

1588
01:19:46,000 --> 01:19:47,600
Speaker 4: got like four or five of us that did it.

1589
01:19:47,840 --> 01:19:48,559
Speaker 2: How's that work?

1590
01:19:50,240 --> 01:19:52,760
Speaker 4: Uh, gotta find a man from up there to do

1591
01:19:52,840 --> 01:19:55,639
Speaker 4: it for you. So you just when I came when

1592
01:19:55,640 --> 01:19:58,800
Speaker 4: I when I came up there, I got a certain

1593
01:19:58,800 --> 01:20:01,439
Speaker 4: fella that I know he can turn around program everything

1594
01:20:01,520 --> 01:20:03,200
Speaker 4: for me, and I just brought them back with me.

1595
01:20:03,920 --> 01:20:06,559
Speaker 1: Alrighty oh, well done.

1596
01:20:06,640 --> 01:20:07,839
Speaker 2: Then, oh it's illegal.

1597
01:20:07,960 --> 01:20:11,519
Speaker 1: Well that that's that's an example of a workaround which

1598
01:20:11,560 --> 01:20:14,120
Speaker 1: we have talked about. There are some people that say, hey,

1599
01:20:14,840 --> 01:20:17,320
Speaker 1: it's too many, it's too many apps, it's too many

1600
01:20:17,400 --> 01:20:20,200
Speaker 1: streaming services. I can't pay for all of them. Right,

1601
01:20:20,320 --> 01:20:22,400
Speaker 1: I'm gonna find a work around. I got a guy,

1602
01:20:22,560 --> 01:20:25,040
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like, that's some people get going.

1603
01:20:25,320 --> 01:20:28,840
Speaker 2: Guy, it's you gotta pay your regular broadcast TV, which

1604
01:20:28,920 --> 01:20:31,080
Speaker 2: is free if you got even a TV Anten or

1605
01:20:31,160 --> 01:20:33,720
Speaker 2: whatever cable package for all the stuff you watch the

1606
01:20:33,800 --> 01:20:37,160
Speaker 2: local channels of where you're at in Charlotte or in Montana,

1607
01:20:37,240 --> 01:20:41,120
Speaker 2: Bozeman or you know, La or wherever. Then you've got

1608
01:20:41,320 --> 01:20:43,839
Speaker 2: the programs you want to watch that are not football,

1609
01:20:44,600 --> 01:20:47,600
Speaker 2: like you know, ted Lasso and Game of Thrones and

1610
01:20:47,640 --> 01:20:49,160
Speaker 2: all of that. You know what I mean. Go down

1611
01:20:49,200 --> 01:20:53,120
Speaker 2: the list, yep, you know Yellowstone all that, And then

1612
01:20:53,160 --> 01:20:59,800
Speaker 2: you got all the platforms that hold football, and which

1613
01:20:59,840 --> 01:21:01,760
Speaker 2: is becoming more and more prevalent.

1614
01:21:01,560 --> 01:21:02,320
Speaker 1: So numerous.

1615
01:21:02,360 --> 01:21:08,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, So it's a lot for a lot of people,

1616
01:21:09,400 --> 01:21:11,919
Speaker 2: and they a lot a lot of people aren't interested

1617
01:21:12,120 --> 01:21:16,960
Speaker 2: in spending that much time sorting through all of that. Right,

1618
01:21:17,120 --> 01:21:19,120
Speaker 2: it's hard to go from just turn your TV on

1619
01:21:19,240 --> 01:21:24,439
Speaker 2: and getting the right channel to another five bucks on

1620
01:21:24,560 --> 01:21:28,120
Speaker 2: another different credit card, on another different account that you

1621
01:21:28,200 --> 01:21:31,200
Speaker 2: have with another password and another username and another you know,

1622
01:21:31,880 --> 01:21:33,920
Speaker 2: all the way down the line bill and another bill.

1623
01:21:34,760 --> 01:21:36,439
Speaker 1: Let's go back to the phones and to Kevin on

1624
01:21:36,560 --> 01:21:37,760
Speaker 1: a cell here, what do you got for us?

1625
01:21:37,840 --> 01:21:38,080
Speaker 2: Kevin?

1626
01:21:39,200 --> 01:21:39,920
Speaker 8: Hey, what's up?

1627
01:21:40,439 --> 01:21:40,920
Speaker 7: I use this?

1628
01:21:41,479 --> 01:21:44,519
Speaker 8: I have my own streaming TV service where we get

1629
01:21:44,560 --> 01:21:48,280
Speaker 8: all the games for forty three ninety nine, Steve. You

1630
01:21:48,360 --> 01:21:52,400
Speaker 8: can even ask Marcus Allen, I have him on it

1631
01:21:52,680 --> 01:21:54,479
Speaker 8: if you want to talk to him about it. But

1632
01:21:54,640 --> 01:21:56,839
Speaker 8: it's a really good service. You get all the games

1633
01:21:57,720 --> 01:21:59,559
Speaker 8: and you get all the coverage that you don't get

1634
01:21:59,600 --> 01:22:02,800
Speaker 8: no black bats, even if it's like on Peacock and

1635
01:22:02,880 --> 01:22:06,320
Speaker 8: stuff like that. So it's a really good app for

1636
01:22:06,400 --> 01:22:08,400
Speaker 8: people to use. If people want to get a hold

1637
01:22:08,439 --> 01:22:11,040
Speaker 8: of me to uh learn how to use it, all

1638
01:22:11,160 --> 01:22:13,840
Speaker 8: you do is you just download it to a like

1639
01:22:13,920 --> 01:22:17,280
Speaker 8: the guy kind of said similar, but it's not illegal,

1640
01:22:17,600 --> 01:22:20,640
Speaker 8: like a firestick or a Google Chrome cast device, and

1641
01:22:20,720 --> 01:22:24,720
Speaker 8: you get everything. You get your locals and all that, and.

1642
01:22:24,800 --> 01:22:27,160
Speaker 2: That's just a that's a single app that you put

1643
01:22:27,200 --> 01:22:27,719
Speaker 2: on your phone.

1644
01:22:28,640 --> 01:22:31,920
Speaker 8: Yep, so with movies and series and everything too. So

1645
01:22:32,040 --> 01:22:35,680
Speaker 8: you do my phone, you can do a laptop, all right.

1646
01:22:35,960 --> 01:22:37,920
Speaker 2: So if I get on that, I can get rid

1647
01:22:37,960 --> 01:22:39,320
Speaker 2: of all my other accounts.

1648
01:22:40,360 --> 01:22:41,240
Speaker 8: Correct, all right?

1649
01:22:41,560 --> 01:22:45,320
Speaker 1: Okay, all in one that that's a Smorgesborg, not an

1650
01:22:45,360 --> 01:22:46,000
Speaker 1: Olid card for.

1651
01:22:46,080 --> 01:22:49,880
Speaker 2: Forty four bucks. Okay, Well that's what that's that's what

1652
01:22:50,000 --> 01:22:54,360
Speaker 2: we're asking now if that if it's like everything sounds

1653
01:22:54,400 --> 01:22:58,400
Speaker 2: too good to be true, it does, and it probably is,

1654
01:23:00,439 --> 01:23:03,400
Speaker 2: but that's what we're kind of asking, right, because that's

1655
01:23:04,479 --> 01:23:05,759
Speaker 2: that's a cheap cable bill.

1656
01:23:05,680 --> 01:23:07,080
Speaker 1: To me, Oh my god, it is.

1657
01:23:07,200 --> 01:23:07,400
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1658
01:23:07,520 --> 01:23:13,160
Speaker 2: Right, if that is equal to what I got, now,

1659
01:23:15,520 --> 01:23:18,080
Speaker 2: I'm good with it. That's a great idea. But that's

1660
01:23:18,080 --> 01:23:19,760
Speaker 2: what I need. That's what I want right there, right

1661
01:23:19,840 --> 01:23:22,320
Speaker 2: right there. Give me every football game, give me the one,

1662
01:23:22,479 --> 01:23:27,120
Speaker 2: the all in one, one, one stop shopping at a reasonable,

1663
01:23:27,200 --> 01:23:30,320
Speaker 2: not even a reasonable price, an unbelievable price. I want it.

1664
01:23:30,720 --> 01:23:34,000
Speaker 1: Or just give me my team, you know, if you

1665
01:23:34,080 --> 01:23:36,240
Speaker 1: want to throw in red zone for an extra whatever

1666
01:23:36,840 --> 01:23:38,600
Speaker 1: so I can kind of cruise around, you know, with

1667
01:23:38,720 --> 01:23:40,160
Speaker 1: my games at halftime or something.

1668
01:23:40,280 --> 01:23:43,400
Speaker 2: Absolutely that, that's that's right. Give me what I want,

1669
01:23:44,640 --> 01:23:47,080
Speaker 2: Give me what I want at a give me what

1670
01:23:47,200 --> 01:23:50,240
Speaker 2: I want cheap. I want my team and I and

1671
01:23:50,360 --> 01:23:52,479
Speaker 2: I want all the national games.

1672
01:23:54,520 --> 01:23:54,840
Speaker 1: That's it.

1673
01:23:54,960 --> 01:23:57,240
Speaker 2: I want the primetime games, the holiday game, you know

1674
01:23:57,280 --> 01:24:00,519
Speaker 2: what I mean. I want the holiday games, the standalone games,

1675
01:24:02,240 --> 01:24:04,200
Speaker 2: my team, the playoffs.

1676
01:24:05,520 --> 01:24:05,840
Speaker 1: That's it.

1677
01:24:06,680 --> 01:24:11,800
Speaker 2: That's all I need. And what am I missing? I'm not. No,

1678
01:24:12,120 --> 01:24:14,800
Speaker 2: that's it. And you got what you want, right and

1679
01:24:14,960 --> 01:24:18,720
Speaker 2: and that that can all that can go right to

1680
01:24:18,840 --> 01:24:22,600
Speaker 2: the shield. That's fine, go right to the NFL or

1681
01:24:22,680 --> 01:24:28,000
Speaker 2: the whatever, and then I'm good as far as football goes,

1682
01:24:28,040 --> 01:24:32,479
Speaker 2: then I still need, you know, other TV to watch,

1683
01:24:35,160 --> 01:24:35,599
Speaker 2: right then?

1684
01:24:36,280 --> 01:24:36,560
Speaker 17: Is that that?

1685
01:24:36,840 --> 01:24:37,760
Speaker 1: Well, that's the question.

1686
01:24:37,880 --> 01:24:38,439
Speaker 2: That's the question.

1687
01:24:38,520 --> 01:24:40,679
Speaker 1: I mean he did say all your channels and everything.

1688
01:24:41,320 --> 01:24:42,599
Speaker 2: When all your channels?

1689
01:24:42,640 --> 01:24:43,000
Speaker 4: What is that?

1690
01:24:43,240 --> 01:24:45,519
Speaker 1: Right? It's different. That's different things for different people.

1691
01:24:45,640 --> 01:24:47,880
Speaker 2: Two four and seven, it's not. That's what I'm still

1692
01:24:47,960 --> 01:24:48,280
Speaker 2: more than that.

1693
01:24:49,320 --> 01:24:51,320
Speaker 1: You mean what I used to watch when I was five,

1694
01:24:51,800 --> 01:24:53,439
Speaker 1: when I had an antenna on top of my house

1695
01:24:53,520 --> 01:24:54,160
Speaker 1: and no cable.

1696
01:24:54,680 --> 01:24:56,719
Speaker 2: Uh, when I was the remote control?

1697
01:24:56,880 --> 01:24:59,439
Speaker 1: Yes exactly, Chris, get up and change the channel.

1698
01:25:00,120 --> 01:25:00,720
Speaker 2: What are you doing?

1699
01:25:01,960 --> 01:25:03,280
Speaker 1: Pay attention? We got we got it.

1700
01:25:04,360 --> 01:25:05,400
Speaker 2: Hey, it's a commercial. Let's go.

1701
01:25:06,880 --> 01:25:12,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, different a different time for sure. Let's crack open

1702
01:25:12,120 --> 01:25:13,840
Speaker 1: the tweet sheets. See what you gotta say over there?

1703
01:25:13,880 --> 01:25:16,880
Speaker 1: And one Bill's live? If the Bills games streaming only,

1704
01:25:16,960 --> 01:25:20,799
Speaker 1: what do you do? Paul says? And tweet sheet incidentally

1705
01:25:20,880 --> 01:25:23,240
Speaker 1: brought to you by Corrigan Moving Systems, the official equipment

1706
01:25:23,280 --> 01:25:26,760
Speaker 1: moving company of the Buffalo Bills. Paul says, Get really mad,

1707
01:25:27,000 --> 01:25:30,080
Speaker 1: then pay for the service for the month. Yeah uh,

1708
01:25:30,360 --> 01:25:34,479
Speaker 1: missus Tolhouse says, or sorry, Miss Tolhouse says, purchase it

1709
01:25:34,600 --> 01:25:37,000
Speaker 1: probably or do as I have done the last few

1710
01:25:37,080 --> 01:25:39,400
Speaker 1: years as an out of market fan listen to the

1711
01:25:39,479 --> 01:25:42,800
Speaker 1: game on the radio while refreshing the bird app and

1712
01:25:43,000 --> 01:25:46,760
Speaker 1: texting what's happening to my friends back home? Can't wait

1713
01:25:46,840 --> 01:25:49,639
Speaker 1: for a Sunday ticket on YouTube? Smiley fixed.

1714
01:25:49,920 --> 01:25:52,280
Speaker 2: That's the thing too that she says too, that it's

1715
01:25:53,000 --> 01:25:54,680
Speaker 2: sometimes it's a little behind.

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01:25:54,439 --> 01:25:56,960
Speaker 1: The Actually the streaming services are a couple of minutes

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Speaker 1: behind the radio.

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Speaker 2: In my house, my own I've got you know, I

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01:26:01,600 --> 01:26:04,000
Speaker 2: told you we're wireless, right, Well, where is a lag?

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01:26:04,240 --> 01:26:07,000
Speaker 2: One of the TVs is hardwired, right.

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01:26:07,040 --> 01:26:09,200
Speaker 1: It's like fifteen seconds ahead, right, it's.

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01:26:09,120 --> 01:26:11,400
Speaker 2: Like thirty five. Oh wow, Right, it's like it's a

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01:26:11,720 --> 01:26:15,120
Speaker 2: big lag, right, So it's it's it's a play behind.

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01:26:15,200 --> 01:26:17,800
Speaker 2: So you can there's a TV in the basement, and

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01:26:17,800 --> 01:26:20,800
Speaker 2: I know this is the first world problem, right, I

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01:26:20,840 --> 01:26:23,600
Speaker 2: got a TV in the basement that's like live or

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01:26:23,720 --> 01:26:28,120
Speaker 2: you think it's live. Upstairs is lagging, so you can

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01:26:28,240 --> 01:26:30,280
Speaker 2: you know where the kitchen is and every so if

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01:26:30,280 --> 01:26:34,760
Speaker 2: there's a part, you can hear one room roar play

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01:26:34,800 --> 01:26:37,560
Speaker 2: ahead of here, right, and then you can run upstairs

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01:26:37,880 --> 01:26:41,000
Speaker 2: and watch it and watch it again live and celebrate twice.

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01:26:41,360 --> 01:26:44,360
Speaker 2: There you go. But yeah, the lag is an issue,

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01:26:44,520 --> 01:26:48,479
Speaker 2: particularly with social media, because you'll get your phone, you're

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01:26:48,479 --> 01:26:51,280
Speaker 2: get an alert. You can't check that alert.

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01:26:51,560 --> 01:26:54,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, right away, break time for us here some final

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01:26:54,560 --> 01:26:56,439
Speaker 1: thoughts on the tweets sheet. Next here on One Bill's Live,

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01:26:56,520 --> 01:26:58,639
Speaker 1: presented by Collide Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

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01:27:13,479 --> 01:27:13,800
Speaker 9: All right.

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01:27:13,880 --> 01:27:16,400
Speaker 1: Back here on One Bill's Live, Chris Brown, Steve Tasker

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01:27:16,600 --> 01:27:19,479
Speaker 1: with you, and back to the tweechee for some final

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01:27:19,600 --> 01:27:23,439
Speaker 1: thoughts on if the Bill's game streaming only, what are

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01:27:23,479 --> 01:27:25,599
Speaker 1: you doing and that really affects the out of market

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01:27:26,280 --> 01:27:28,880
Speaker 1: people more than anybody else. William says, get a free

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01:27:28,920 --> 01:27:31,559
Speaker 1: trial of that streaming service forget to cancel it after

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01:27:31,640 --> 01:27:34,400
Speaker 1: the game, pay for it the rest of the time. Actually,

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01:27:34,479 --> 01:27:36,280
Speaker 1: you can't get a free trial. You have to get

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01:27:36,320 --> 01:27:40,200
Speaker 1: the premium subscription, according to a Peacock representative. So you're

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01:27:40,240 --> 01:27:42,519
Speaker 1: gonna have to fork over four ninety nine for the

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01:27:42,600 --> 01:27:44,360
Speaker 1: first month at the very least.

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01:27:44,920 --> 01:27:47,960
Speaker 2: To get you get That's the thing. If you're gonna,

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01:27:48,560 --> 01:27:50,360
Speaker 2: if we're gonna do what we've been talking about doing

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01:27:51,080 --> 01:27:54,320
Speaker 2: and getting your team on the internet whenever you want

1753
01:27:54,840 --> 01:27:56,680
Speaker 2: just your team, right, you have to pay for all

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01:27:56,720 --> 01:27:57,080
Speaker 2: the games.

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01:27:57,160 --> 01:27:58,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, the other thirty one teams.

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01:28:00,160 --> 01:28:00,639
Speaker 2: Gonna cost.

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01:28:02,080 --> 01:28:05,400
Speaker 1: I would imagine that there are algorithms being formulated right now.

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01:28:06,240 --> 01:28:08,559
Speaker 2: I mean we've had some people conjected like twenty five

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01:28:08,600 --> 01:28:10,639
Speaker 2: bucks a game. I am I paying twenty five bucks

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01:28:10,720 --> 01:28:14,360
Speaker 2: a game. No, I'm thinking more like seriously, like ninety

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01:28:14,400 --> 01:28:18,640
Speaker 2: nine cents and you get you'd have millions of you know,

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01:28:18,760 --> 01:28:21,599
Speaker 2: you do this streaming service all of a sudden, if

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01:28:21,640 --> 01:28:24,880
Speaker 2: you now for a guy like you and me, not

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01:28:25,000 --> 01:28:27,080
Speaker 2: only would I stream the bill, I'd get the bills,

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01:28:28,000 --> 01:28:32,040
Speaker 2: but for four ninety nine or four ninety six or

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01:28:32,120 --> 01:28:35,439
Speaker 2: three ninety six, you get the whole AFC East. You

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01:28:35,520 --> 01:28:36,080
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying.

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01:28:36,200 --> 01:28:37,000
Speaker 1: Build it out from there.

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01:28:37,040 --> 01:28:38,400
Speaker 2: You could build it from there. You could pick okay,

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01:28:38,400 --> 01:28:39,760
Speaker 2: and I want to watch the other other teams too,

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01:28:39,760 --> 01:28:42,280
Speaker 2: I want to have access to them, right So if

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01:28:42,320 --> 01:28:45,639
Speaker 2: you did it like that, I think you'd really max

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01:28:45,760 --> 01:28:48,400
Speaker 2: it out then, because you're not gonna have people paying

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01:28:48,439 --> 01:28:50,360
Speaker 2: twenty five bucks a week for one game.

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01:28:51,080 --> 01:28:52,840
Speaker 1: Rum Oak on the tweet, she says it will be

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01:28:52,920 --> 01:28:56,280
Speaker 1: on locally in Buffalo, but if history prevails, not Rochester.

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01:28:56,880 --> 01:28:59,640
Speaker 1: We have plenty of Rochester listeners. I'll just join for

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01:28:59,720 --> 01:29:03,479
Speaker 1: one since they have a playoff game, scheduled as well.

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01:29:03,960 --> 01:29:05,720
Speaker 1: That is the good news because I think if you

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01:29:05,800 --> 01:29:07,840
Speaker 1: do get Peacock to watch the Bills game, if you're

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01:29:07,880 --> 01:29:10,519
Speaker 1: somebody in Rochester, watch the Chargers game in week sixteen,

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01:29:10,600 --> 01:29:14,559
Speaker 1: Wildcard weekend is just three weeks later, so that's you're

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01:29:14,600 --> 01:29:17,920
Speaker 1: still within your first month. Fortunately, you maybe only get

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01:29:17,960 --> 01:29:20,160
Speaker 1: away with paying for one month and then you're good

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01:29:20,200 --> 01:29:23,120
Speaker 1: to go. Thanks for all the responses today. We wanted

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01:29:23,160 --> 01:29:24,640
Speaker 1: your opinions, and boy did we get him.

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01:29:24,760 --> 01:29:25,320
Speaker 2: Thanks a lot.

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01:29:25,400 --> 01:29:27,960
Speaker 1: That was plentiful supply, that was fantastic, So thanks for

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01:29:28,040 --> 01:29:31,400
Speaker 1: your participation. Tomorrow, we'll be right back here at one pm.

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Speaker 1: We've got ESPN's Mike Reese coming on with us the

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01:29:34,360 --> 01:29:37,479
Speaker 1: Intrepid Patriots reporters, so look forward to catching up on

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01:29:37,560 --> 01:29:40,519
Speaker 1: the AFC East off season doings with him. We'll see

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Speaker 1: you tomorrow