1 00:00:10,690 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: The Colorado River emerges as a tiny stream high in 2 00:00:14,910 --> 00:00:19,759 Speaker 1: a rocky mountain meadow. From that inauspicious beginning, it rolls 3 00:00:19,820 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 1: and roams across 1500 miles of the western United States. 4 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:28,500 Speaker 1: By the time it discharges its power in the Gulf 5 00:00:28,540 --> 00:00:32,590 Speaker 1: of California, It has flowed through a world forever altered 6 00:00:32,670 --> 00:00:37,450 Speaker 1: by its passing. Chief among its creations is the mile-deep 7 00:00:37,550 --> 00:00:42,470 Speaker 1: wound in the lime and sandstone of Arizona. Over millennia, 8 00:00:42,850 --> 00:00:46,880 Speaker 1: it has carved down and down into the soft sedimentary rock, 9 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:51,940 Speaker 1: sculpting the giant natural cleft we now call the Grand Canyon. 10 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 1: The Grand Canyon has long been a place of wonder. 11 00:00:57,320 --> 00:01:01,860 Speaker 1: Inhabited by humans for 12,000 years, it now draws 5 12 00:01:01,860 --> 00:01:05,979 Speaker 1: million tourists and adventurers each year who flock there to 13 00:01:06,020 --> 00:01:10,120 Speaker 1: hike its trails, clamber on its vast red walls, and 14 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:13,700 Speaker 1: revel in the almost cosmic scale of one of nature's 15 00:01:13,830 --> 00:01:19,910 Speaker 1: most awesome sights. And yet, only 5% of visitors ever 16 00:01:19,970 --> 00:01:24,290 Speaker 1: leave the relative safety of the canyon rim empty. Deeper 17 00:01:24,390 --> 00:01:28,750 Speaker 1: down is where its true mysteries are found. Even its 18 00:01:28,990 --> 00:01:34,760 Speaker 1: age is open to doubt. Common geological wisdom dictates that 19 00:01:34,780 --> 00:01:38,580 Speaker 1: the canyon was formed between 5 and 6 million years ago, 20 00:01:39,260 --> 00:01:44,179 Speaker 1: but the rock itself poses troubling questions. You see, the 21 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:49,990 Speaker 1: canyon is missing time. A lot of time. Rock from 22 00:01:50,030 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 1: the Paleozoic era, sits atop a layer known as the 23 00:01:53,500 --> 00:01:58,810 Speaker 1: Vishnu basement rocks, and the roughly 1.2 billion years of 24 00:01:58,940 --> 00:02:04,250 Speaker 1: geological strata that should separate them is simply not there. 25 00:02:05,370 --> 00:02:10,209 Speaker 1: It was Major John Wesley Powell, a soldier, geologist and explorer, 26 00:02:10,570 --> 00:02:16,730 Speaker 1: who in 1869 discovered this literal manifestation of missing time, 27 00:02:17,470 --> 00:02:20,380 Speaker 1: and in the century and a half since, no one 28 00:02:20,620 --> 00:02:25,769 Speaker 1: has been able to satisfactorily explain the absence. It's a 29 00:02:25,810 --> 00:02:31,790 Speaker 1: worldwide anomaly, known as the Great Unconformity, but it is greater, 30 00:02:32,330 --> 00:02:36,669 Speaker 1: more apparent, and more visibly complex at the Grand Canyon 31 00:02:37,070 --> 00:02:41,609 Speaker 1: than anywhere else on Earth. All Powell could say by 32 00:02:41,690 --> 00:02:46,650 Speaker 1: way of explanation is that Dame Nature needed this batch 33 00:02:46,690 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 1: of dough very thoroughly. Such a large chunk of missing 34 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:56,670 Speaker 1: time leaves a vacuum into which theories and speculation have 35 00:02:56,730 --> 00:03:03,090 Speaker 1: inevitably poured. In 1909, the Arizona Gazette reported on a 36 00:03:03,230 --> 00:03:08,750 Speaker 1: Smithsonian expedition which supposedly discovered a huge expanse of caverns 37 00:03:08,900 --> 00:03:12,080 Speaker 1: at the Grand Canyon, large enough to host thousands of 38 00:03:12,139 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 1: people and filled with ancient statues and weapons. each with 39 00:03:17,100 --> 00:03:23,710 Speaker 1: a distinctly Egyptian aesthetic. However, with the Smithsonian claiming not 40 00:03:23,770 --> 00:03:27,510 Speaker 1: to have any record of the apparent expedition, many now 41 00:03:27,570 --> 00:03:33,410 Speaker 1: assume the story was simply concocted to sell newspapers. And yet, 42 00:03:33,910 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 1: there are those who still point to the hundreds, perhaps 43 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 1: thousands of unmapped caves, and those too, perhaps of a 44 00:03:42,300 --> 00:03:48,050 Speaker 1: more conspiratorial mindset. who speculate about the so-called forbidden zones 45 00:03:48,190 --> 00:03:52,650 Speaker 1: of the canyon where exploration is banned, and they wander. 46 00:03:54,430 --> 00:03:57,750 Speaker 1: But for the canyon's most abiding mystery, we have to 47 00:03:57,790 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 1: go right to the bottom, where the river still runs 48 00:04:01,780 --> 00:04:06,940 Speaker 1: as it continues its imperceptible and irrevocable shaping of the world, 49 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 1: to where, pinned between the canyoned walls, The water hurries 50 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:17,940 Speaker 1: and twists with lethal intensity, and what it snatches rarely, 51 00:04:18,260 --> 00:04:23,900 Speaker 1: if ever, makes it back to the surface. You're listening 52 00:04:23,940 --> 00:04:36,330 Speaker 1: to Unexplained, and I'm Richard McLean Smith. Back in 1927, 53 00:04:36,310 --> 00:04:43,529 Speaker 1: 22-year-old Bessie Louise Haley boarded a steamship travelling from San 54 00:04:43,570 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 1: Francisco to Los Angeles. Just the year before, the aspiring 55 00:04:48,900 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 1: poet and artist from West Virginia married her high school sweetheart, 56 00:04:53,980 --> 00:04:57,980 Speaker 1: Earl Helmick. But after spending less than two months living 57 00:04:58,020 --> 00:05:02,860 Speaker 1: with him in Kentucky, she decided to relocate alone to 58 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:07,780 Speaker 1: the West Coast. Little is known about why she left exactly, 59 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:13,060 Speaker 1: But almost immediately upon disembarking in Los Angeles, Bessie wrote 60 00:05:13,110 --> 00:05:17,470 Speaker 1: to her husband requesting a divorce. She'd met someone else 61 00:05:17,850 --> 00:05:23,050 Speaker 1: on board the ship, she said. That man was 29-year-old 62 00:05:23,410 --> 00:05:28,950 Speaker 1: Glenn Rowland Hyde, a potato farmer from Idaho. It was 63 00:05:28,990 --> 00:05:33,060 Speaker 1: just one of many decisions and counter-decisions that Bessie was 64 00:05:33,140 --> 00:05:37,900 Speaker 1: wont to make, hinting at a natural impulsivity. and thirst 65 00:05:37,980 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 1: for adventure. On first look, her mercurial nature seemed ill-suited 66 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:48,420 Speaker 1: to a romance with a 29-year-old potato farmer from Idaho. 67 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 1: Yet there was much more to Glenn Hyde than his 68 00:05:52,260 --> 00:05:57,580 Speaker 1: stolid background would suggest. Glenn was a keen rafter, trained 69 00:05:57,660 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 1: by seasoned rivermen on the salmon and snake rivers of Idaho. 70 00:06:03,060 --> 00:06:07,220 Speaker 1: He once spent six months kayaking, fishing and hunting, the 71 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:12,540 Speaker 1: length of Canada's Peace River. And back in 1922, accompanied 72 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 1: by his younger sister Jean, he'd even completed a thousand-mile 73 00:06:17,140 --> 00:06:20,740 Speaker 1: river journey from his home state to the Pacific Ocean. 74 00:06:21,860 --> 00:06:25,460 Speaker 1: Perhaps it was something in Glenn's own aptitude for adventure 75 00:06:25,820 --> 00:06:29,450 Speaker 1: that appealed to Bessie. Perhaps it was just the natural 76 00:06:29,529 --> 00:06:34,070 Speaker 1: romance of being young and at sea. Either way, they 77 00:06:34,130 --> 00:06:38,630 Speaker 1: quickly fell in love on that passenger ship For his part, 78 00:06:39,170 --> 00:06:44,490 Speaker 1: Bessie's husband, Earl, refused the divorce. But Bessie would not 79 00:06:44,550 --> 00:06:49,110 Speaker 1: be deterred. After promptly moving to Nevada, she established a 80 00:06:49,170 --> 00:06:52,919 Speaker 1: residency there that allowed her to file for divorce on 81 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:59,620 Speaker 1: her own terms. And on April 11th, 1928, it was finalized. 82 00:07:00,380 --> 00:07:04,039 Speaker 1: The very next day, she and Glenn Hyde were married. 83 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:10,170 Speaker 1: The newlyweds soon settled in Murtagh Place, Glenn's farmhouse in 84 00:07:10,230 --> 00:07:14,470 Speaker 1: Twin Falls, Idaho, where he made a modest living growing 85 00:07:14,550 --> 00:07:19,590 Speaker 1: potatoes and raising sheep. It was a life largely tethered 86 00:07:19,690 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 1: to the rigor of farm work, leaving little time for 87 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 1: the adventure that the young couple both craved. Though Bessie 88 00:07:27,940 --> 00:07:31,540 Speaker 1: learnt to ride horses in her scant spare time while 89 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:35,150 Speaker 1: working the farm with her husband, The transition from the 90 00:07:35,250 --> 00:07:39,390 Speaker 1: San Francisco art scene to a life of rural mundanity 91 00:07:39,770 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 1: began to take its toll. Glenn was feeling it too. 92 00:07:45,460 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 1: The river waters, never far from his mind, were beckoning. 93 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:55,309 Speaker 1: Two years earlier, several parties attempted to film a river 94 00:07:55,350 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 1: traversal of the Grand Canyon. One succeeded. Led by the 95 00:08:00,980 --> 00:08:05,220 Speaker 1: novice captain Clyde Eddy, the crew of 13, plus a 96 00:08:05,260 --> 00:08:08,900 Speaker 1: dog and a bear cub, became the first expedition to 97 00:08:08,940 --> 00:08:14,100 Speaker 1: complete the journey during the canyon's high water season. Their 98 00:08:14,140 --> 00:08:18,350 Speaker 1: recorded footage brought the river much publicity and didn't go 99 00:08:18,430 --> 00:08:23,210 Speaker 1: unnoticed by Bessie and Glenn. The images of wild water 100 00:08:23,570 --> 00:08:34,930 Speaker 1: and towering cliffs were too good to ignore. Bessie and 101 00:08:35,010 --> 00:08:39,630 Speaker 1: Glenn made the decision to try and recreate Clyde Eddy's journey. 102 00:08:40,510 --> 00:08:44,459 Speaker 1: It would be a belated honeymoon of sorts, marrying Glenn's 103 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:49,319 Speaker 1: lust for the river with Bessie's desire for renown. But 104 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:54,350 Speaker 1: Glenn wanted to go beyond simply repeating the feat. He 105 00:08:54,380 --> 00:08:57,770 Speaker 1: wanted to break the speed record for traversing the canyon 106 00:08:58,130 --> 00:09:02,210 Speaker 1: and in the process make Bessie the first recognised woman 107 00:09:02,590 --> 00:09:06,930 Speaker 1: to make the run. After an arduous summer of farm work, 108 00:09:07,390 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 1: the couple left the farm and made their way to 109 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:15,100 Speaker 1: the town of Green River in Utah. Feeling excited and 110 00:09:15,179 --> 00:09:20,140 Speaker 1: rejuvenated for the next two days, Glenn, a practiced boat builder, 111 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:24,220 Speaker 1: worked tirelessly to build the vessel they would use at 112 00:09:24,260 --> 00:09:28,490 Speaker 1: a cost of roughly $ 50, just under a thousand by 113 00:09:28,550 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 1: today's standards. He settled on a scowl a broad flat-bottomed 114 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:37,459 Speaker 1: wooden boat said to resemble little more than a plank 115 00:09:37,540 --> 00:09:43,990 Speaker 1: box and often described ominously as a floating coffin. Scowls 116 00:09:44,020 --> 00:09:46,750 Speaker 1: were common to the rivers of Idaho where they were 117 00:09:46,870 --> 00:09:50,470 Speaker 1: usually worked by a two-person crew, one to steer from 118 00:09:50,510 --> 00:09:54,949 Speaker 1: the front while another steered from the back, both using 119 00:09:55,070 --> 00:10:00,119 Speaker 1: long oars called sweeps. Glenn had captained a scowl on 120 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 1: his epic journey to the Pacific just a few years earlier. 121 00:10:04,380 --> 00:10:08,830 Speaker 1: To him, it seemed an obvious, dependable and affordable choice 122 00:10:09,170 --> 00:10:13,790 Speaker 1: for the more robust amounts of the Colorado. The Hydes 123 00:10:14,150 --> 00:10:18,510 Speaker 1: named their boat Rain in the Face. in anticipation of 124 00:10:18,550 --> 00:10:23,670 Speaker 1: the unceasing spray and rough waters that lay ahead. They 125 00:10:23,730 --> 00:10:27,430 Speaker 1: loaded it with supplies for the journey, including a Kodak 126 00:10:27,530 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 1: camera and several journals to record the journey in the 127 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 1: hope of selling it later, and a rudimentary box spring bed, 128 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 1: because this was, after all, their honeymoon. Glenn felt confident. 129 00:10:42,940 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 1: He expected the entire journey could be accomplished in no 130 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 1: more than a month and a half, and he estimated 131 00:10:49,540 --> 00:10:54,550 Speaker 1: their arrival at their final destination of Needles, California, by 132 00:10:54,610 --> 00:11:00,650 Speaker 1: December 6th, certainly no later than December 9th. Despite having 133 00:11:00,750 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 1: no prior river rafting experience, Bessie was also in good 134 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:09,940 Speaker 1: spirits upon leaving. Glenn assured her, that there'd be plenty 135 00:11:09,980 --> 00:11:13,340 Speaker 1: of time on the earlier, calmer stretches of river to 136 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:17,500 Speaker 1: learn the skills necessary for the raging torrents awaiting them 137 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 1: on the Colorado. And with that, the pair set off 138 00:11:22,700 --> 00:11:29,699 Speaker 1: into the canyon's stony throat. On October 20th, 1928, the 139 00:11:29,740 --> 00:11:33,200 Speaker 1: Hydes pushed out into the Green River to begin the 140 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:38,250 Speaker 1: first stage of their journey. By day, they paddled along 141 00:11:38,290 --> 00:11:42,750 Speaker 1: the relatively gentle waters. Then come night, they pulled their 142 00:11:42,809 --> 00:11:47,070 Speaker 1: makeshift bed onto the sandy banks and nestled down together 143 00:11:47,230 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 1: beneath the stars in the ageless embrace of the canyon rock. 144 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:05,579 Speaker 1: Those first few days on the river together proved an 145 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 1: ideal training ground as Glenn had suggested, for Bessie to 146 00:12:09,820 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 1: learn the ways of the scow, which she quickly got 147 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:18,130 Speaker 1: the hang of. After 120 miles, they completed the Green 148 00:12:18,210 --> 00:12:22,790 Speaker 1: River leg without major incident, except for one brief moment 149 00:12:23,230 --> 00:12:27,410 Speaker 1: as they passed through Cataract Canyon when Bessie fell overboard. 150 00:12:28,450 --> 00:12:32,140 Speaker 1: It's easy to imagine the couple laughing as Glenn dragged 151 00:12:32,179 --> 00:12:36,740 Speaker 1: his soaked wife from the slowly meandering river. but the 152 00:12:36,790 --> 00:12:43,100 Speaker 1: Colorado River was a different proposition altogether. At Lee's Ferry, 153 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 1: a river station at the entrance to the canyon, locals 154 00:12:47,260 --> 00:12:51,020 Speaker 1: spotting Bessie and Glenn on their boat warned them that 155 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:55,780 Speaker 1: it was unfit for the rapids downriver. Only weeks before, 156 00:12:56,250 --> 00:12:59,870 Speaker 1: three people had drowned when a flood washed the local 157 00:12:59,950 --> 00:13:04,230 Speaker 1: ferryboat away, a boat far more suited to the river 158 00:13:04,610 --> 00:13:08,970 Speaker 1: than the Hyde Scowl. but Glenn laughed it off and 159 00:13:08,990 --> 00:13:13,710 Speaker 1: the couple continued on their way. It was on November 160 00:13:14,110 --> 00:13:18,739 Speaker 1: 16th when a somewhat harrowed-looking Bessie and Glenn arrived at 161 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:23,620 Speaker 1: the home of Emery Kolb in Grand Canyon Village. Kolb 162 00:13:23,660 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 1: was a photographer who'd opened a local studio with his 163 00:13:27,100 --> 00:13:32,290 Speaker 1: brother Ellsworth in 1906. The Kolbs were key figures in 164 00:13:32,309 --> 00:13:37,530 Speaker 1: the history of Grand Canyon tourism. Their photographs of mule-riding 165 00:13:37,590 --> 00:13:41,790 Speaker 1: visitors and their own hair-raising adventures on the river did 166 00:13:41,850 --> 00:13:46,130 Speaker 1: much to foster romantic impressions of the park, so it's 167 00:13:46,210 --> 00:13:52,750 Speaker 1: no surprise that the promotionally-minded Hydes sought Emery out. By 168 00:13:52,770 --> 00:13:55,990 Speaker 1: this point, Bessie and Glenn had been on the river 169 00:13:56,290 --> 00:14:00,349 Speaker 1: for nearly a month. They were almost 300 miles into 170 00:14:00,390 --> 00:14:05,260 Speaker 1: their journey, 88 miles into the canyon proper, and on 171 00:14:05,340 --> 00:14:09,780 Speaker 1: course to break the speed record. Still, they needed to 172 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:13,680 Speaker 1: restock and were eager for respite from the endless bob 173 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:18,140 Speaker 1: and weave of the rapids, the unrelenting pressure to observe 174 00:14:18,230 --> 00:14:22,650 Speaker 1: and react to the water's every whim. In search of 175 00:14:22,750 --> 00:14:27,650 Speaker 1: both supplies and different scenery, they hiked the 5,000-foot climb 176 00:14:27,950 --> 00:14:32,540 Speaker 1: up Bright Angel Trail to Grand Canyon Village. now a 177 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:37,660 Speaker 1: tourist hub through which most visitors accessed the park. In 1928, 178 00:14:37,660 --> 00:14:41,300 Speaker 1: it was a hamlet of just a few buildings tucked 179 00:14:41,380 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 1: on the southern rim of the canyon. Emery received the 180 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:49,270 Speaker 1: pair warmly and invited them to his home for the night. 181 00:14:50,450 --> 00:14:54,290 Speaker 1: It was immediately clear to Kolb that the Hydes, and 182 00:14:54,390 --> 00:14:57,930 Speaker 1: Bessie in particular, had been left a little shaken by 183 00:14:57,970 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 1: their journey so far. That night over dinner, Bessie described 184 00:15:03,300 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 1: one incident in which the scow had tipped over suddenly 185 00:15:06,860 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 1: in the Colorado's rapids, sending Glenn plunging deep into the 186 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:17,260 Speaker 1: churning waters below. The memory of Glenn swimming for his life, 187 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 1: while Bessie, alone in the boat, had suddenly found herself 188 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:26,100 Speaker 1: not only responsible for her husband's rescue, but the scow 189 00:15:26,420 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 1: upon which both of their lives depended. had clearly left 190 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:34,630 Speaker 1: a haunting impression on the young woman. It was then 191 00:15:34,730 --> 00:15:38,650 Speaker 1: that Kolb also realised the couple had neglected to bring 192 00:15:38,750 --> 00:15:49,700 Speaker 1: life jackets with them. Emery Kolb was so concerned by 193 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 1: the couple's unpreparedness for what he knew lay ahead, he 194 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 1: invited them to stay with him and his wife over 195 00:15:57,000 --> 00:16:02,590 Speaker 1: winter in Grand Canyon Village. But once again, Glenn neglected 196 00:16:02,670 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 1: to heed the warning. It was vital, he said, that 197 00:16:06,180 --> 00:16:08,740 Speaker 1: they make it to the town of Needles within a 198 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:12,740 Speaker 1: week to stay on track for the record. In any case, 199 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:16,850 Speaker 1: he thought, they'd already overcome the worst that the river 200 00:16:16,950 --> 00:16:22,590 Speaker 1: had to offer. Before they departed Grand Canyon Village, Glenn 201 00:16:22,730 --> 00:16:26,710 Speaker 1: asked Emery to take their photograph, promising to collect and 202 00:16:26,790 --> 00:16:31,420 Speaker 1: pay on their return. Emery captured the couple against a 203 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:35,620 Speaker 1: wall of stacked stone, standing side by side with slicked 204 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 1: hair and rugged outdoor clothing. Glenn holds his hat jauntily 205 00:16:40,860 --> 00:16:44,250 Speaker 1: in one hand, the other thrust deep in his pocket, 206 00:16:44,930 --> 00:16:49,290 Speaker 1: while Bessie looks every inch the twenties adventurer, her hair 207 00:16:49,410 --> 00:16:53,530 Speaker 1: slicked back, the fur collar of her leather aviator jacket 208 00:16:53,870 --> 00:16:59,310 Speaker 1: pulled up high around her jaw. Over the years, Researchers 209 00:16:59,330 --> 00:17:03,590 Speaker 1: have pondered whether the photo hints at discord or unease 210 00:17:03,770 --> 00:17:07,580 Speaker 1: between the heights. For Emery Kolb, at least, there was 211 00:17:07,619 --> 00:17:12,359 Speaker 1: little doubt that Bessie seemed nervous, reluctant even, to leave 212 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 1: the safety of the canyon, as if she knew that 213 00:17:15,619 --> 00:17:19,139 Speaker 1: nothing good waited for her back down on the river. 214 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:24,300 Speaker 1: As the pair prepared to descend back into the bowels 215 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:29,680 Speaker 1: of the canyon, Emery's young daughter appeared, wearing fine feminine clothing. 216 00:17:30,619 --> 00:17:35,120 Speaker 1: Emery watched as Bessie observed the child, muttering to herself, 217 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:38,619 Speaker 1: I wonder if I will ever wear pretty shoes again. 218 00:17:39,660 --> 00:17:43,540 Speaker 1: Then the couple made their goodbyes and headed off back 219 00:17:43,580 --> 00:17:47,460 Speaker 1: to the canyon, eventually disappearing out of sight as they 220 00:17:47,500 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 1: turned into the bright angel trail, while Emery watched on uneasily. 221 00:17:54,420 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 1: Back at the river landing, the Hydes found a stranger 222 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:01,340 Speaker 1: standing next to their scow. The man was a friend 223 00:18:01,380 --> 00:18:06,880 Speaker 1: of Emery's, named Adolph Gilbert Sutro, a wealthy tourist enjoying 224 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:11,439 Speaker 1: a tour of the southwestern states. Sutro made the highs 225 00:18:11,510 --> 00:18:14,990 Speaker 1: a proposition. If they would carry him a day downriver, 226 00:18:15,310 --> 00:18:18,170 Speaker 1: he would happily take photographs of the experience for them. 227 00:18:19,090 --> 00:18:23,890 Speaker 1: Perhaps eager for company, and possibly keen for more promotional material, 228 00:18:24,470 --> 00:18:27,270 Speaker 1: or maybe just happy to help out a fellow traveller, 229 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:40,030 Speaker 1: The heights readily agreed. Adolf Sutro was not unfamiliar with danger. 230 00:18:40,790 --> 00:18:44,129 Speaker 1: He was an adventurer himself, though of the air variety 231 00:18:44,470 --> 00:18:47,889 Speaker 1: rather than water. He learned to fly with the Wright 232 00:18:47,950 --> 00:18:52,419 Speaker 1: brothers and had set several solo records for seaplane flights. 233 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 1: Twice he'd been plucked from the wreckage of a crash 234 00:18:56,359 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 1: in San Francisco Bay, yet he was horrified by his 235 00:19:00,700 --> 00:19:04,500 Speaker 1: time on the river with the Hydes. Over a short 236 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 1: seven-mile stretch, they encountered some of the worst rapids on 237 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:12,140 Speaker 1: the course. They got stuck in a fierce eddy for 238 00:19:12,180 --> 00:19:16,140 Speaker 1: hours and the scow was nearly pummeled to driftwood by 239 00:19:16,180 --> 00:19:21,420 Speaker 1: a crashing descent through granite gorge. The Hydes and Sutro 240 00:19:21,740 --> 00:19:24,950 Speaker 1: spent an uneasy night sleeping in the sand on a 241 00:19:25,030 --> 00:19:29,500 Speaker 1: small beach before limping into hermit camp the next morning. 242 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:35,439 Speaker 1: The whole experience haunted the aviator. Later he would write, 243 00:19:36,060 --> 00:19:39,919 Speaker 1: My unfailing guiding light in life has been the precept 244 00:19:40,180 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 1: that it is better to be an alive coward than 245 00:19:43,380 --> 00:19:48,359 Speaker 1: a dead hero. I disembarked permanently at the very first 246 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:53,150 Speaker 1: landing spot. The photos that Sutro took of the heights 247 00:19:53,490 --> 00:19:56,650 Speaker 1: tell a very different story to the one taken by 248 00:19:56,810 --> 00:20:00,850 Speaker 1: Emery Kolb. There are far fewer smiles for a start. 249 00:20:01,930 --> 00:20:06,119 Speaker 1: One picture in particular captures the intensity on Glenn's face 250 00:20:06,619 --> 00:20:10,630 Speaker 1: as he stares dead ahead down their course. Behind him, 251 00:20:11,010 --> 00:20:14,330 Speaker 1: Bessie's mouth is a firm line, as if she is 252 00:20:14,430 --> 00:20:19,180 Speaker 1: girding herself for what is to come. In Sutro's opinion, 253 00:20:19,660 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 1: it was a miracle that the hides had made it 254 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:26,440 Speaker 1: that far. At the point where they parted company, they 255 00:20:26,500 --> 00:20:28,220 Speaker 1: travelled 375 miles and had 430 more to go. Sutro 256 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:38,530 Speaker 1: watched them depart, relieved to be alive. but like everyone 257 00:20:38,630 --> 00:20:41,730 Speaker 1: else who'd met the Hydes along the river, he left 258 00:20:41,770 --> 00:20:47,260 Speaker 1: them worried for their safety. Sutro's final glimpse of the 259 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:50,780 Speaker 1: Hydes as they slipped around the next bend would be 260 00:20:50,820 --> 00:20:54,940 Speaker 1: the last time that anyone saw Bessie or Glenn alive 261 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 1: or dead. Well, no one would ever see Glenn Hyde again. 262 00:21:00,380 --> 00:21:05,679 Speaker 1: As for Bessie, well that is more complicated. When the 263 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:09,920 Speaker 1: hides didn't appear in needles in early December, the alarm 264 00:21:09,980 --> 00:21:15,669 Speaker 1: was quickly raised. Glenn's father, suspecting something amiss, rushed to 265 00:21:15,690 --> 00:21:21,350 Speaker 1: the area. He hired native trackers and even persuaded Dwight Davis, 266 00:21:21,670 --> 00:21:26,070 Speaker 1: the then US Secretary of War, to mobilize an air search. 267 00:21:26,850 --> 00:21:30,780 Speaker 1: He drafted the Cole brothers in to help too. Emery, 268 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:34,120 Speaker 1: who'd never quite got his worry about the young couple 269 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:38,580 Speaker 1: out of his mind was only too happy to help. Then, 270 00:21:39,060 --> 00:21:43,950 Speaker 1: on December 19th, 1928, the pilot of a small plane 271 00:21:44,350 --> 00:21:49,129 Speaker 1: spotted something caught in rocks some 140 miles south of 272 00:21:49,170 --> 00:21:53,429 Speaker 1: where Adolf Sutro had waved them off. It was the 273 00:21:53,490 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 1: Hyde's boat. When they found the scow, it was sitting 274 00:22:07,420 --> 00:22:12,100 Speaker 1: upright and stocked full of supplies. The Hyde's coats and 275 00:22:12,220 --> 00:22:16,270 Speaker 1: boots were also still on board, as was Glenn's gun, 276 00:22:16,830 --> 00:22:22,609 Speaker 1: Bessie's journals and the Kodak camera. Bessie's final journal entry 277 00:22:22,910 --> 00:22:27,350 Speaker 1: was dated November 30th and the last photo was later 278 00:22:27,390 --> 00:22:32,350 Speaker 1: determined to have been taken 60 miles upstream. The gunwale 279 00:22:32,430 --> 00:22:37,090 Speaker 1: was scarred by 41 deep scratches, one for each day 280 00:22:37,130 --> 00:22:41,909 Speaker 1: of the trip between October 20th and November 30th, but 281 00:22:41,930 --> 00:22:46,119 Speaker 1: there was no sight or sign of the hides. The 282 00:22:46,180 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 1: search began in earnest, up and down the nearest stretch 283 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 1: of river and in the surrounding canyon, but still they 284 00:22:53,660 --> 00:22:59,649 Speaker 1: found nothing. Investigators eventually came to the seemingly obvious conclusion 285 00:22:59,670 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 1: that that Bessie and Glenn had met their end in 286 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 1: one of the river rapids. But why then was the 287 00:23:07,340 --> 00:23:11,330 Speaker 1: boat still upright and river-worthy with less than a foot 288 00:23:11,369 --> 00:23:16,050 Speaker 1: of water taken on board? Perhaps clinging to hope, Glenn's 289 00:23:16,109 --> 00:23:20,090 Speaker 1: father insisted that the couple must have attempted to hike 290 00:23:20,290 --> 00:23:23,189 Speaker 1: out of the canyon and might have gotten lost in 291 00:23:23,210 --> 00:23:27,920 Speaker 1: the countless folds of rock and trail. But as others 292 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:31,180 Speaker 1: pointed out, If that were true, why would they have 293 00:23:31,220 --> 00:23:35,850 Speaker 1: left their food, boots and warm clothing in a perfectly 294 00:23:35,990 --> 00:23:41,570 Speaker 1: serviceable boat? That's when the speculation about the character of 295 00:23:41,609 --> 00:23:47,310 Speaker 1: the Hydes themselves began. Word got around that Glenn was 296 00:23:47,350 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 1: an abusive husband, leading some to theorise that his behaviour 297 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:54,980 Speaker 1: had worsened due to the stress of life on the raft, 298 00:23:55,700 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 1: leading him to murder Bessie. before fleeing the crime or 299 00:24:00,020 --> 00:24:04,500 Speaker 1: taking his own life. Others suggested that it was Bessie 300 00:24:04,700 --> 00:24:08,679 Speaker 1: who had in fact committed the murder, either in self-defence 301 00:24:09,220 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 1: or after becoming tired of Glenn's abuse. In response, close 302 00:24:14,580 --> 00:24:17,950 Speaker 1: friends and family came forward to say that Glenn was 303 00:24:18,070 --> 00:24:22,290 Speaker 1: actually a devoted and gentle husband who loved Bessie dearly. 304 00:24:23,570 --> 00:24:28,530 Speaker 1: And there the story may have concluded. Unresolved, but in 305 00:24:28,550 --> 00:24:33,530 Speaker 1: the end, just another disappearance in the American wilderness. A 306 00:24:33,590 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 1: familiar tale of courage colliding with hubris and recklessness. But 307 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:43,160 Speaker 1: as the years went by, a series of strange developments 308 00:24:43,300 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 1: began to emerge to fan the embers of the mystery 309 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:59,359 Speaker 1: and keep it a flicker. In 1971, a rafting tour 310 00:24:59,430 --> 00:25:03,420 Speaker 1: made camp at Diamond Creek, a landing spot just a 311 00:25:03,500 --> 00:25:08,439 Speaker 1: dozen miles from where the Hyde Scow was discovered. As 312 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:12,300 Speaker 1: night fell, the guide gathered his group around the campfire 313 00:25:12,700 --> 00:25:17,300 Speaker 1: to regale them with the 40-year-old mystery. As he reached 314 00:25:17,340 --> 00:25:21,399 Speaker 1: the haunting anticlimax of the tale, an elderly member of 315 00:25:21,420 --> 00:25:25,870 Speaker 1: the group stuck her hand up to quieten him. She 316 00:25:25,950 --> 00:25:31,270 Speaker 1: knew the story well, she said, because she was Bessie Hyde. 317 00:25:32,890 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 1: As the stunned group looked on, she explained that the 318 00:25:36,020 --> 00:25:40,740 Speaker 1: rumours had been true all along. Glenn was an abusive husband, 319 00:25:41,140 --> 00:25:44,859 Speaker 1: whose temper did indeed worsen during their time on the river. 320 00:25:46,030 --> 00:25:49,190 Speaker 1: According to the woman, when she begged him to end 321 00:25:49,230 --> 00:25:54,100 Speaker 1: the expedition early, he beat her into submission. So what 322 00:25:54,140 --> 00:25:58,940 Speaker 1: did you do? the guide asked, half-joking. I stabbed him, 323 00:25:59,300 --> 00:26:04,460 Speaker 1: the woman replied, without missing a beat. The woman then 324 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:08,380 Speaker 1: explained how she'd thrown Glenn's body into the white water 325 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:12,660 Speaker 1: and watched it disappear before hiking out of the canyon alone. 326 00:26:13,580 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 1: When she eventually reached the town of Peach Springs, Arizona, 327 00:26:17,540 --> 00:26:21,490 Speaker 1: she caught a bus and began her life anew. It 328 00:26:21,530 --> 00:26:24,689 Speaker 1: doesn't matter if I say I murdered him now, the 329 00:26:24,730 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 1: woman said, because no one will believe me anyway. That 330 00:26:29,100 --> 00:26:32,179 Speaker 1: part turned out to be true. No one did believe her. 331 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:36,220 Speaker 1: Not least because the mysterious woman was at least four 332 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:40,919 Speaker 1: inches taller than the five foot nothing Bessie Hyde. The 333 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:47,920 Speaker 1: woman later recanted her story. Five years later, in 1976, 334 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 1: human remains were found in a canoe It wasn't on 335 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:56,160 Speaker 1: the river, however, but in the boathouse belonging to none 336 00:26:56,240 --> 00:27:01,900 Speaker 1: other than Emery Kolb. The male skeleton was discovered shortly 337 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:07,149 Speaker 1: after Emery's death by his grandson and occasioned immediate speculation 338 00:27:07,530 --> 00:27:12,070 Speaker 1: that the corpse belonged to Glenn Hyde. A bullet found 339 00:27:12,109 --> 00:27:17,330 Speaker 1: inside the skull implied that Emery had murdered him. Did 340 00:27:17,369 --> 00:27:22,409 Speaker 1: the experienced canyon traveller follow the Hydes Down River? perhaps 341 00:27:22,470 --> 00:27:25,980 Speaker 1: in a misguided attempt to save Bessie from her fate. 342 00:27:27,220 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 1: It's a darkly romantic notion, but here too, such a neat, 343 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:37,530 Speaker 1: if grim, conclusion twists away like the river. Decades later, 344 00:27:37,970 --> 00:27:42,010 Speaker 1: a local sheriff scouring photographs in the Grand Canyon Museum 345 00:27:42,570 --> 00:27:47,540 Speaker 1: identified the remains as belonging to an unidentified suicide victim 346 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:53,229 Speaker 1: found in the National Park back in 1933. The body 347 00:27:53,369 --> 00:27:56,530 Speaker 1: could not be Glenn Hyde, but quite what it was 348 00:27:56,570 --> 00:28:01,709 Speaker 1: doing in Emery Kolb's boathouse is another mystery entirely, one 349 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:05,540 Speaker 1: of the many secrets that the Grand Canyon is unlikely 350 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 1: to ever give up. In 1992, 64 years after the 351 00:28:17,580 --> 00:28:22,290 Speaker 1: Hyde's disappearance on the Colorado River, A woman named Georgie 352 00:28:22,350 --> 00:28:29,060 Speaker 1: White Clark died. She was 81 years old. Georgie spent 353 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:32,659 Speaker 1: nearly 50 years working as a river guide up and 354 00:28:32,700 --> 00:28:37,439 Speaker 1: down the Colorado. She was a vastly experienced rafter, the 355 00:28:37,500 --> 00:28:40,510 Speaker 1: first woman to raft the canyon and the first to 356 00:28:40,620 --> 00:28:44,490 Speaker 1: swim it. Known for her leopard print swimwear and a 357 00:28:44,530 --> 00:28:48,750 Speaker 1: penchant for confronting the waters at full speed. In short, 358 00:28:49,270 --> 00:28:52,910 Speaker 1: Georgie was a legend so integral to the culture of 359 00:28:52,950 --> 00:28:57,270 Speaker 1: the canyon that in 2001 a rapid was even named 360 00:28:57,390 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 1: after her at mile 24. Yet for all her fame 361 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:06,180 Speaker 1: there were things that no one knew about Georgie Clark. 362 00:29:07,340 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 1: After her death friends of Georgie's entered her home for 363 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:15,310 Speaker 1: the first time. Throughout decades of friendship they had never 364 00:29:15,450 --> 00:29:21,410 Speaker 1: been invited inside. While collating her belongings, they stumbled across 365 00:29:21,470 --> 00:29:26,960 Speaker 1: an intriguing discovery. First, they found a birth certificate. It 366 00:29:27,020 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 1: revealed that Georgie White Clark had not been born Georgie 367 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:38,150 Speaker 1: White Clark. Her first name was Bessie DeRoss. Both White 368 00:29:38,230 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 1: and Clark were the surnames of ex-husbands. And according to 369 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:47,340 Speaker 1: other documents that were found, Georgie was born in Oklahoma 370 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 1: and brought up in Colorado, not Chicago as her friends 371 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:56,500 Speaker 1: had been led to believe. Clearly Georgie Clark was not 372 00:29:56,580 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 1: the woman that people thought she was. So who was she? 373 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:07,460 Speaker 1: In a bedside drawer, buried beneath faded lingerie, Georgie's friends 374 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:12,460 Speaker 1: also found a pistol. Comparison with the gun, seen in 375 00:30:12,610 --> 00:30:16,470 Speaker 1: several of the photographs found on Bessie and Glenn's Kodak, 376 00:30:17,050 --> 00:30:20,330 Speaker 1: suggest that it may well have been the very same weapon. 377 00:30:21,750 --> 00:30:25,590 Speaker 1: And beneath that was the most startling discovery of all. 378 00:30:26,630 --> 00:30:31,140 Speaker 1: A marriage certificate. belonging to none other than Bessie and 379 00:30:31,270 --> 00:30:41,190 Speaker 1: Glenn Hyde. So what are we to make of all this? 380 00:30:42,190 --> 00:30:45,630 Speaker 1: It is tempting to believe that Bessie Hyde escaped a 381 00:30:45,690 --> 00:30:51,160 Speaker 1: bad situation on that wild water in 1928 and returned 382 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:54,880 Speaker 1: to slay that dragon repeatedly over the next half century. 383 00:30:55,590 --> 00:30:58,570 Speaker 1: that Bessie was the first woman to raft the canyon 384 00:30:58,690 --> 00:31:03,650 Speaker 1: after all, just under a different name. But if Georgie 385 00:31:03,710 --> 00:31:08,020 Speaker 1: Clark was Bessie Hyde, it still only answers half the question. 386 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:14,380 Speaker 1: Glenn's fate still lingers, unanswered and obscured by a century 387 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:19,420 Speaker 1: of passing water. And if Georgie wasn't Bessie Hyde, what 388 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:22,660 Speaker 1: are we to make of that marriage certificate? How did 389 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:26,790 Speaker 1: it come into Georgie's possession? And what did she perhaps know, 390 00:31:27,270 --> 00:31:31,730 Speaker 1: and keep secret, about the Hyde's final confrontation with the 391 00:31:31,810 --> 00:31:37,729 Speaker 1: white maelstrom of the Colorado? With Georgie's death, maybe the 392 00:31:37,810 --> 00:31:42,330 Speaker 1: final grasp of the truth drifted away forever into history 393 00:31:42,390 --> 00:31:47,130 Speaker 1: and rumor, left only to be recounted on endless starry 394 00:31:47,210 --> 00:31:52,730 Speaker 1: nights around campfires in the canyon. All that remains is 395 00:31:52,770 --> 00:31:55,850 Speaker 1: the memory of a young couple, who once braved a 396 00:31:55,910 --> 00:32:00,570 Speaker 1: river powerful enough to change the world, who became just 397 00:32:00,830 --> 00:32:05,450 Speaker 1: one of the many stories fossilised forever in those folds 398 00:32:05,550 --> 00:32:11,720 Speaker 1: of Arizona rock. Remember, before she became a rafter, Bessie 399 00:32:11,780 --> 00:32:14,980 Speaker 1: Hyde was a poet, so I'd like to leave you 400 00:32:15,060 --> 00:32:18,820 Speaker 1: with a verse from an unnamed poem found in her collection, 401 00:32:19,300 --> 00:32:25,420 Speaker 1: Wandering Leaves. Oh, Mama dear, please come, My Dolly must 402 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 1: be drowned. When I put her on the creek, she 403 00:32:29,060 --> 00:32:34,480 Speaker 1: sunk without a sound. Wee Betty's eyes filled with tears. 404 00:32:35,540 --> 00:32:39,920 Speaker 1: Where could poor Dolly be? 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