1 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:08,880 Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson, home 2 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 1: of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome to 3 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:17,479 Speaker 1: the Drive. I'm Dale Lolly here with Matt Williamson. It 4 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:21,320 Speaker 1: is a Monday in Pittsburgh. It is a rainy, cold Monday, 5 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 1: and this this feels like a fall day. Uh you 6 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 1: should they should be playing football? Uh, you know sometimes 7 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 1: week wet, gold, cold, all that good stuff after, you know, 8 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 1: being in T shirts over the weekend and stuff. But Matt, 9 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:40,480 Speaker 1: we're less than two weeks out from the draft now, 10 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:44,880 Speaker 1: and I keep seeing a lot of stuff everywhere about 11 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 1: the Steelers potentially trading up for I would assume what 12 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 1: is a quarterback? Um, here's the thing. Here's what happens 13 00:00:56,840 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 1: every year. M Kevin Colbert, well, either Kevin Colbert or 14 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:07,839 Speaker 1: Brandon Hunt or somebody within the organization will contact every team. Hey, 15 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 1: what would you know? Are you interested in moving down? 16 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 1: Are you interested in moving up? Depending on where they're at. 17 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 1: It's what you do. You kind of lay the groundwork 18 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 1: and let teams know that, hey, we might be interested 19 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 1: in you know, keep us in mind if you if 20 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:22,479 Speaker 1: you want to do something here, because that's what you do. 21 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 1: And I think so many people are getting caught up 22 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 1: in this Steelers quarterback stuff that there automatically assuming the 23 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 1: Steelers want to trade up and go get a quarterback, 24 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 1: because they're they're you know, they're they're on the phone 25 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 1: with teams. First of all, nobody's making nobody's making any 26 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 1: of these trades now right now, right and that like 27 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 1: that Saints Eagles trade was very odd, and if the 28 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 1: Eagle's done three first round picks, it probably doesn't happen, 29 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 1: you know, which was odd to begin with. A couple 30 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 1: levels here are I think you know, Ozzie knew some 31 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 1: drafted are with his for his going away president, Kevin's 32 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 1: going to do the same thing. I don't think Kevin 33 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 1: looks at it that way. I think he probably looks 34 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:09,920 Speaker 1: at it like what's best for this team. It doesn't 35 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 1: matter if I'm gonna be here for the next ten 36 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 1: years or next ten minutes. I'm gonna do his best 37 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 1: for this team. I'm not going to draft a quarterback 38 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 1: to leave my legacy behind. I think that's foolish and 39 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 1: slightly selfish way of looking at it, which is anything 40 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 1: but what Kevin Colbert truly is. You know, so, and 41 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 1: everyone has made so much about toml and Colbert have 42 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 1: been at every pro day and have really studied these quarterbacks, Okay, 43 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:37,639 Speaker 1: I mean maybe more so than any other team or 44 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:41,079 Speaker 1: any other year. Nobody wants to Nobody wants to to 45 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:43,839 Speaker 1: to think though, that the Steelers have studied all these 46 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 1: quarterbacks and they don't like any of them. Maybe that's 47 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 1: that's at the stake. But like, just because you studied 48 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 1: them all, you may have looked at all of them said, 49 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 1: you know, yeah, we did our due diligence here, but 50 00:02:57,280 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 1: we don't think any of these guys are franchise quarterbacks, 51 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:02,360 Speaker 1: right right right, Maybe they think five of them are. 52 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know, but it does anybody else. 53 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 1: And there's exactly and no one makes a fuss of it. 54 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 1: If they went to Ohio State, Alabama, USC, Penn States 55 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 1: pro Day and why I picked those names just because 56 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:21,800 Speaker 1: they're all top receivers, or if they went to Georgia, 57 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 1: Penn State, Notre Dame Michigan Pro Day because they're all 58 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 1: the top safeties. No one puts those two things together. 59 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 1: They probably went to all of the above, you know, 60 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 1: it's just just because they happened to be a quarterback 61 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: landing spots or are doing due diligence on quarterback doesn't 62 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 1: mean that they're trading up or even would take one 63 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 1: at twenty or like any of them. I honestly think 64 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 1: it's a bigger story if they wouldn't be there. Absolutely, 65 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 1: And I'll say I'll say this as well. Outside of 66 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 1: going to Liberty to see Malik Willis, the other schools 67 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 1: that they went to to see quote unquote see the quarterbacks, 68 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 1: there were a lot of other players. There were a 69 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 1: lot of other players there that you know. I can 70 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 1: remember that a couple of years ago somebody tweeted something 71 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 1: out Kevin Colbert at this such and such game just 72 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 1: to watch the quarterback. Well, folks, are twenty one other 73 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: players on the field at any one time other than 74 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:22,720 Speaker 1: the quarterback. You know, there's specifically just to see the quarterback. 75 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:25,799 Speaker 1: You're there to see he may be part of the process, 76 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 1: but you don't go to Cincinnati just to see Desmond Ritter. 77 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:32,719 Speaker 1: Cincinnati's got guys all through this draft right right. It's 78 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:36,920 Speaker 1: not the typical Bearcats draft. And people made a big 79 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: fuss out of they went to L s U. I'm 80 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:42,279 Speaker 1: sure they would are interested to see Stingley. I think 81 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:47,799 Speaker 1: Stingley is probably a incomplete evaluation before his pro day, 82 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 1: But I have a hunch they were interested in that 83 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 1: nose tackle and the second corner they have to you know, 84 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:56,160 Speaker 1: or you know, kicking the tires on with a new 85 00:04:56,200 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 1: coaching staff, knowing that that's gonna be a quarterback or 86 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 1: a prospect factory for years to come. Hey, who the 87 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 1: guys next year? You know, I mean nobody thinks about 88 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 1: that thing, you know, but when you go to a 89 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:11,040 Speaker 1: pro day, you're talking through the train or the strength 90 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 1: coach everybody around, you know, like who are the kids 91 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 1: coming through the pipeline next year? Or who did you 92 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 1: guys play against? That was really good, you know, like 93 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:20,040 Speaker 1: there's a lot of information to gather, more than just 94 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 1: a forty time of Stingley. Yeah, and you mentioned the 95 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 1: L s U Pro day. It just it just so happened. 96 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 1: L s U was after a lot of the other 97 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:30,280 Speaker 1: ones this year, so it was kind of a standalone 98 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 1: pro day. Of course you're gonna go to l s D. Yeah, 99 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 1: why wouldn't you go? You know, Tom Tomlin was ticked 100 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 1: off that he you know, he at first he wasn't 101 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 1: gonna be able to go to Alabama. Um, you know, 102 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 1: and then after you know, I talked to him and 103 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 1: he said that, you know, he could have gone, but 104 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:50,279 Speaker 1: a lot of the guys weren't working out, so he said, 105 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 1: he so he scrapped it. Yeah, saw him many hours 106 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 1: in a day. And you gotta pick and choose. But 107 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 1: going to L s U is never a bad idea. 108 00:05:57,240 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 1: Going to Alabama never a bad idea. Going to Georgia's 109 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:02,039 Speaker 1: never a bad idea. You know. It's that's where the 110 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 1: players are. Florida. Uh, you know, we can go check 111 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:07,360 Speaker 1: off the list. Michigan. Hey, they were at Michigan's Pro 112 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 1: day this year. Well, yeah, they're players in Michigan. I' 113 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 1: and there are Georgia's too, you know, right, I mean uh. 114 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 1: And then the other thing is you and I are 115 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 1: guilty of this, I mean, and we can see it 116 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 1: through media eyes. We're getting all this quote interest for 117 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 1: the Steelers quarterback in the trade up through draft nicks, 118 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 1: through schefters, through media people, and anyone that's done a 119 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 1: mock draft realizes that the puzzle never completes perfectly, you know, 120 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 1: and you want to get a quarterback in there. You 121 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 1: want to maybe get to you don't want to leave 122 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 1: Willis and pick it out of the first round. So 123 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:45,280 Speaker 1: where do I put them? And I'm not going to 124 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 1: put them to the Detroit or you know, maybe Caroline 125 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:51,160 Speaker 1: is one spot, but I don't believe the Saints are 126 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:54,239 Speaker 1: in the market. So the Steelers are a very easy 127 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 1: landing spot for mocks. I keep seeing the words quarterback 128 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:02,039 Speaker 1: and desperate with the Steelers, and I just don't see that. 129 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 1: I don't see I don't see the Steelers ever showing 130 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 1: desperation when it comes to something like that. Uh, it 131 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 1: just it just doesn't fit. And I'll say this, you know, 132 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 1: if the Steelers draft a quarterback this year, it to me, 133 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 1: it doesn't necessarily make sense. And here's why you've got 134 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 1: to get Mitch Robinsky starter snaps this offseason in training camp. 135 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 1: Have to if he's gotta, if he you've got to. 136 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 1: And you also have Mason Rudolph there, who you're saying, Okay, 137 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 1: we're gonna get We're gonna have an open competition with 138 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 1: these guys. If you're gonna have a true competition between 139 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 1: Mason Rudolph and Mitch Robinski, they're gonna dominate the snaps 140 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 1: in you know, in the off season program and in 141 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 1: training camp, where does that leave you to get time 142 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 1: to get snaps for your rookie quarterback? Yeah, there's not. 143 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 1: The logistics don't work out great and people overlook that 144 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 1: stuff all the time, especially once the season starts. But 145 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 1: even in camp you have again, unfortunately there's not three, 146 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 1: there's two still, you know, and I don't want to 147 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 1: harp on that, but that's a terrible tragedy. We all 148 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 1: know it. And then you add another three is difficult enough, 149 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 1: let alone what would have been possibly for And just 150 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 1: because Dwayne Paskins unfortunately passed away, I don't think that's 151 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 1: going to change the way they look at this quarterback class. 152 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 1: You know. So in order they like Bason Rudolph folks 153 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 1: enough that they want to keep them around and give 154 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 1: them snaps. It's not just like he's totally forgotten. They 155 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 1: like Dwayne Haskins where they want to give him snaps. 156 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 1: They apparently loved Trabisky because they wouldn't and got him 157 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 1: right away. They want to give him snaps. Like if 158 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 1: you draft Willis, you need to give him all sorts 159 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 1: of practice snaps. And if you draft pick it, don't 160 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 1: just expect them to walk in here and play right 161 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 1: away and beat everybody out. That's bonkers. Yeah, Any any 162 00:08:55,240 --> 00:09:00,440 Speaker 1: quarterback that they draft or you know, an't matter if 163 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:02,440 Speaker 1: it's in the first round, if it's in the seventh round, 164 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 1: isn't going to be no better than number three this year. 165 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 1: Most likely means well as might get a game day 166 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:12,559 Speaker 1: package or you know, but the chances are he's going 167 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:15,320 Speaker 1: to be number three, even if you picking a rudder, 168 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:18,680 Speaker 1: will probably not beat out Rudolf for the two right 169 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:21,679 Speaker 1: and and and likely won't be given a big lot 170 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 1: a lot of chances to do so. I mean, that's 171 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 1: just the reality of the situation. Ben Roethlisberger was supposed 172 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 1: to be number three, alright, Charlie Badge got hurt and 173 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:35,560 Speaker 1: trained in the preseason and that moved him up to two. 174 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 1: And then and then Tommy Mannis got hurt in week 175 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:40,080 Speaker 1: two and that moved him up to number one. But 176 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:43,319 Speaker 1: the plan all along was to have Roethlisberger red shirt 177 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 1: for a year. And I just don't know that you 178 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:51,719 Speaker 1: still have to get that quarterback snaps, and you know, 179 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 1: he can't just have him running your scout team all 180 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 1: the time. But you also you also have to prep 181 00:09:57,160 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 1: to go and try to win games that year, right, 182 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:03,679 Speaker 1: That's what's overlooked here too, is they're trying to win games, 183 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 1: like as you were trying, you know, talking there, I 184 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 1: was thinking about the Houston Texans situation, like, by no 185 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:14,599 Speaker 1: means of the Texans roster or state of the franchise 186 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 1: anywhere close to the Steelers. However, everyone in the media 187 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 1: seems to be super cool with Houston, who has two 188 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 1: first round picks as well as more early picks, just 189 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:29,080 Speaker 1: not taking a quarterback at all, which personally I am too. 190 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 1: I would not if I were them with the and 191 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 1: where I'm going with this is it's cool for the 192 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 1: Mels and Todds of the world to say, well, Houston 193 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 1: likes Davis Mills more than any of these quarterbacks. Okay, 194 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 1: I totally understand that, Matt Williamson totally understands that, and 195 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:47,559 Speaker 1: I would be in the same boat. But why can't 196 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:50,439 Speaker 1: we say the Steelers like Trabisky more than an these quarterbacks, 197 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, that's what you're compared them to. 198 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:57,440 Speaker 1: And are they massively different? Is Davis Mills so much 199 00:10:57,440 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 1: further along than Trabinsky? You know, Like, well, I want 200 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 1: you to put on your way back helmet machine here 201 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 1: for a second. Let's let's crank up the way back machine. 202 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:12,199 Speaker 1: Let's go back to the draft Mason and put Mason Rudolph, 203 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:16,319 Speaker 1: rookie Mason Rudolph coming out of of of Oklahoma State 204 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 1: in this quarterback draft class. He's no worse than two 205 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 1: or three in this draft class. I'm gonna fight you 206 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 1: on that. I'm just like, I hear what you're going. 207 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 1: If you look at his track record, what he did 208 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 1: in college, it matches up very well with anybody in 209 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:38,560 Speaker 1: this draft class. Maybe not athletically. Athletically was where I 210 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 1: was gonna have. But is he is he any Is 211 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:44,439 Speaker 1: he any less athletic than Sam how Oh? I think 212 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 1: How's a better runner. I don't know who it is. 213 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 1: Mason Ruolf ran in the four sevens when he came 214 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 1: out there. I know, I know he was not. He 215 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:55,200 Speaker 1: was not as a statue um and How's running abilities 216 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 1: vastly overrated. It's usually, but he also passesn't there talking 217 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 1: and run slide, you know, like he's not a great runner. 218 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 1: But Rudolph's got one thing is something a lot of 219 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:08,680 Speaker 1: these guys in this draft don't have, and that's some size. Yeah, 220 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 1: starting this thickness body mass. Yeah, yeah, you're right. And 221 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 1: from the pocket, he's better than several of them for sure. 222 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 1: I don't know that he's as tool as he as 223 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 1: any of the top five though, in terms of athleticism 224 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 1: and arm strength to me, you know, but I hear 225 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 1: what you're saying, and he would be in the conference. 226 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:29,959 Speaker 1: I think that's where people when when the Steelers, when 227 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 1: Kevin Colbert came out, and he probably should have never 228 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 1: said this is he always say this about the guy 229 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:37,440 Speaker 1: that you drafted, Well, we had a we had a 230 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 1: much higher grade on him. We had him right right 231 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:41,079 Speaker 1: up there. We had a first round grade on him. 232 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 1: Well in this in this draft, he might have a 233 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 1: first round grade on Mason Rudolph compared to some of 234 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 1: these other guys. I get, I had a first round grade. 235 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 1: Is is a fuzzy word. It's a very fuzzy word. Yeah. 236 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 1: I remember there were five quarterbacks taken in that in 237 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 1: that first round that year, and well, Mason Rudolph's outperformed 238 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 1: least one of them. Yeah. I mean the Steelers may 239 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 1: have had him in the same tier. But back to tearing, 240 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 1: it's Rudolph and Trabinsky a tear way below than these 241 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 1: guys coming out. I don't think the answer is yes 242 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 1: with the possible seption of Willis. I mean, I think 243 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 1: Willis is kind of a standalone player, and if they 244 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 1: don't want to get involved with developing him, I would 245 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 1: understand that. But I think if I'm going to take 246 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 1: a chance down the road on any of these guys, 247 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 1: including Trobisky or Rudolph, I'll roll my dice with Willis. 248 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 1: But it's not gonna be a quick fix. I mean 249 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 1: at all. It's not gonna be a quick fix. And 250 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 1: I'm not, again, not interested in trading future picks to 251 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 1: go get him from where I get from where I'm 252 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 1: at right now, I mean to move from seventeen and 253 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:54,199 Speaker 1: to cost you a future third. Yeah, maybe you get 254 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 1: into the top ten to trade up to six with 255 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:01,200 Speaker 1: Carolina to go get him. No, because you're probably given 256 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:04,200 Speaker 1: up next year's first as well, to get that right 257 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 1: right right right now, next year first, and he's off 258 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 1: the table for any player in this draft. Yeah, And 259 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 1: I just I just think I like this draft four 260 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:16,719 Speaker 1: to five rounds into it, and I don't want to 261 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 1: give up any of those picks. I mean, frankly, you 262 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 1: don't want to miss on Willis. If you love them, 263 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 1: and if anyone in this draft loves them, I would 264 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 1: going all in, including the Steelers. I won't kill the 265 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 1: Steelers if they would trade next year's first to go 266 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 1: get Willis because I would understand it. What I do it. 267 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 1: I don't think so, but I would get it. But 268 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 1: to me, the way this draft is set up, in 269 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 1: the state of the Steelers roster and quarterback situation, I 270 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 1: think I would rather see who calls me when twenty 271 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 1: rolls around than calling people in the top ten. No, 272 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 1: I completely agree. And I was reading uh Peter King's 273 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 1: Monday Morning Quarterback today and he was talking with he 274 00:14:55,720 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 1: had he had pulled twelve general managers around the league, 275 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 1: and they don't think necessarily that teams looking to trade 276 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 1: back this year are going to get the bounty that 277 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 1: they typically would get because so many teams are potentially 278 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 1: looking to move back, or you know, you got so 279 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 1: many teams with multiple draft picks as well, that it 280 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 1: lessens the value of those picks and there aren't the 281 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 1: targets to move up for that's the whole. That's the 282 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 1: other thing like that that that top ten, well, I 283 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 1: think I think that's our top ten is the top 284 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 1: ten by and large, and we'll probably you know, if I, 285 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 1: if I, if you and I put together our top ten, 286 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 1: which we've done for for the you know, for the 287 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 1: Steelers dot Com pieces, and they're the same guys. They 288 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 1: may not be necessarily in the same order, but I'd 289 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 1: be willing to bet at least nine of those guys 290 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 1: going to top ten picks, right right, I mean maybe 291 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 1: Jermaine Johnson or McDuffie might be ten, eleven, twelve, you know, 292 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 1: those type of guys. You know, they're really good players, 293 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 1: you know, but right, and then there's a drop off, 294 00:15:56,440 --> 00:16:00,120 Speaker 1: And yeah, I'm with you on that too. And I 295 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 1: didn't read Peter King's peace, but I would assume he's 296 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 1: mostly talking about the top of the first round because 297 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 1: I could see teams Kansas City, Green Bay calling the 298 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 1: Steelers at twenty, calling the Chargers at seventeen. You know, like, 299 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 1: once you get out of that top tennis prospects, I 300 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 1: think there might be some trade up from teams that 301 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 1: are willing to pay the usual price if Crystal Lave 302 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 1: starts falling or you know what I mean. Yeah, no, 303 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 1: I I think that another thing that he mentioned that 304 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 1: was interesting, is that this could be the first year 305 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 1: since we've had an actual like draft, uh that there 306 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 1: might be somebody who does not touch the football go 307 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 1: in the top ten. They might be we might get 308 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 1: through ten picks uhout a quarterback, wide receiver, running back 309 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 1: or definitely a tight end and definitely a tight end 310 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 1: going into the positions or slam dunks. Yeah, and yeah, 311 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 1: I think there's a real good chance. It's interesting. And 312 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 1: you're also hearing more and more Mayfield could be linked 313 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:07,680 Speaker 1: to the Panthers before long too, And well, I don't 314 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:10,680 Speaker 1: see that. I don't see can you see the Robbie 315 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 1: Anderson tweet about that somebody meant somebody mentioned that that 316 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:18,120 Speaker 1: that the Panthers might and again, this is the same 317 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 1: thing that happened with the Steelers might be interested in 318 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 1: in in drafted or trading for uh for for Mayfield 319 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 1: or they would jump out, they would leap it at 320 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 1: the thrilled to get him. Whatever it was. It came 321 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:36,879 Speaker 1: from Cleveland dot Com. It's pure speculation, folks. But as 322 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 1: soon as Robbie Anderson saw it, he put out a 323 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:45,880 Speaker 1: tweet that said, no, Baker Mayfield is not that popular 324 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 1: of a guy. In NFL locker rooms. No, And I 325 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:51,880 Speaker 1: don't know how much of the interview stuff you've seen 326 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 1: since then, but he had a point of a lot 327 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 1: of pointing the fingers that everybody else and that's not 328 00:17:56,880 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 1: what any quarterback anything. I mean, even going back to 329 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:04,159 Speaker 1: like the Odells situation, but I had nothing to do 330 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 1: with it. Was Odell's fault, you know, like nobody wants 331 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:09,639 Speaker 1: to hear that from a quarterback. But back to the 332 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 1: Panthers super quick. If I were them, though, without a 333 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 1: second and third round pick, I'm taking Charles Cross and 334 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 1: signing Mayfield or trading for Garoppolo on the cheep or 335 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 1: something like, uh, you don't have a quarterback right now. 336 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 1: I mean, that's the problem. That's a problem. It's a 337 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 1: it's a big problem. Um, you know. So I could 338 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:32,239 Speaker 1: see them being interested in doing that. Man, I'd want 339 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 1: to do better than Mayfield. I would. I would. I 340 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:36,199 Speaker 1: would be more interested in trading for Garoppolo if I 341 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 1: was them. Yeah, I mean, I think Garoppolo costs you 342 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:41,920 Speaker 1: a future pick. Mayfield you could probably get because otherwise, 343 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 1: and you're looking at you know, do do we trade 344 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:47,359 Speaker 1: for your getting Nick Foles or Ryan Fitzpat thirty nine 345 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:51,439 Speaker 1: year old Ryan Fitzpatrick. I saw a thing today like 346 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 1: an offering for Jordan's love. Yeah, there was a there 347 00:18:54,080 --> 00:19:00,240 Speaker 1: was a It was a Steelers Twitter thing that said, 348 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 1: should this do the Steelers need to go sign Brian Fitzpatrick. 349 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:06,160 Speaker 1: Why the hell, Why the hell would the Steelers side 350 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 1: Ryan Fitzpatrick? Why would you add him to this mix? 351 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 1: First of all, he's thirty nine years old, he's coming 352 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 1: off a hip injury. He's starting years over the hip injury. 353 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 1: He may not be all a walk. I only like 354 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:23,879 Speaker 1: Ryan Fitzpatrick if he were Zach Wilson's mentor or you know, 355 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 1: there's been Ridder's mentor or something like that, without any 356 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 1: intentions of playing him. Because, oh, by the way, one 357 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:33,360 Speaker 1: of the beautiful things the Steelers have accomplished is an 358 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:37,879 Speaker 1: unbelievably cheap quarterback room. You don't ruin that by giving 359 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:40,200 Speaker 1: the thirty nine year old ten million. He's not gonna 360 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:43,359 Speaker 1: play for leg minimum. He's not. He might not even be. 361 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 1: It's not good, he's not, he's just whatever. It's just silly. 362 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 1: Is this is a silliness that goes on. There's so 363 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:52,639 Speaker 1: much that I see on Twitter and things of that nature. 364 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 1: When I just I want to comment, like you are 365 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:59,639 Speaker 1: you out of your mind? And you know, people just 366 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 1: trying to get clicks on stuff. It's just nuts. And 367 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 1: how many how many things have you seen out there? 368 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 1: I think I've seen fourteen different times now that the 369 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 1: Steelers are going to sign the Honey Badger, Like, oh, 370 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 1: I know, I was in an Easter party right right, 371 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:18,359 Speaker 1: right right, and then and then I look at the 372 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 1: person's uh I immediately like put the cursor on top 373 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:25,359 Speaker 1: of the guy who's who's written it, and he's got like, 374 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:28,679 Speaker 1: you know, seven hundred followers. You don't have any sources 375 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 1: right right, You've just been out of a thousand of 376 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 1: those guys is an up and coming dude that is 377 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 1: hooked up. They're just making stuff up, just trying to 378 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 1: get followers exactly exactly the word you know right right. 379 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:43,640 Speaker 1: This time of year is hard. I mean it's hard 380 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 1: for you and I to put out good shows this 381 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 1: time a year. We still do it, but there's just 382 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 1: not a lot to talk about because everyone is in 383 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 1: the bunker preparing for the bunkers are now the doors 384 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 1: are sealed, and you know, there's there's no puffle wake 385 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 1: smoke that comes out that to let you know what's 386 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 1: going on. That's just the way it is. But we're 387 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 1: going to take a break. He is Matt Williams and 388 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 1: I'm Dale Lally. You're listening to the Drive here on 389 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 1: Steelers Nation Radio.