1 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:04,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff You Missed in History Class, a production 2 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 1: of I Heart Radio. Hello, and welcome to the podcast. 3 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 1: I'm Conny Fry and I'm Tracy V. Wilson, and we've 4 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:21,280 Speaker 1: recently covered the photographer Wuigi on the show and as 5 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:24,480 Speaker 1: you may recall, he allegedly got his nom de lens 6 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 1: because he was nicknamed after the Wigia board. And of 7 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: course that got me thinking about how I have been 8 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: planning for a long time, a really long time, to 9 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 1: do a spirit board episode, but I could never figure 10 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 1: out exactly how to tackle it. And that's because it's 11 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 1: hard because there is a lot of different information and 12 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:48,560 Speaker 1: ways you can go, uh so to level set. This 13 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 1: is not going to be like a survey of ways 14 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 1: people have used spirit boards around the world through history. 15 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 1: Instead of what we're really talking about today is the 16 00:00:57,320 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 1: rise of the Weigia board in North America, and that 17 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 1: is different from just calling it a spirit board because 18 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:06,119 Speaker 1: Weigia is a trademarked name and the story behind it 19 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:08,760 Speaker 1: and how it became a corporate thing is kind of 20 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 1: a morass. Listen, this is a Halloween episode, but you're 21 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:14,279 Speaker 1: going to get a lot of stuff you might not expect. 22 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 1: We're going to talk a little bit about spiritualism, yes, 23 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:21,479 Speaker 1: but there is a lot more corporate intrigue and betrayal 24 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 1: and family feuds and litigation and even some psychology, And 25 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 1: there is so much that it is a two parter, 26 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 1: even having gone with a really limited scope of the 27 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 1: u s and the Weigia boards specifically. So for this 28 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 1: first part, we're going to cover how talking boards started 29 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:41,400 Speaker 1: to show up in the press in North America and 30 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 1: then how that interested businessmen and ultimately how what seems 31 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 1: like a surprise player kind of comes out of nowhere 32 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 1: to essentially run the entire industry of spirit board production. 33 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 1: And then in part two we're going to continue with 34 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 1: the commercial manufacturer weig boards. Were also going to touch 35 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 1: on some exam poles of how it comes up in 36 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 1: pop culture over the years, as well as in legal cases. 37 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:09,920 Speaker 1: That's where we get into probably more Halloween, certainly some 38 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 1: gruesome stuff. And then we will wrap by talking about 39 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:16,639 Speaker 1: what is really happening psychologically when you play with a 40 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:20,800 Speaker 1: Wigia board and become convinced that something or someone other 41 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:24,359 Speaker 1: than you is controlling that plan set. So there's been 42 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 1: various devices intended to help the living speak with the 43 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 1: spirit realm really just about as long as there's been 44 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 1: recorded history. As Polly just alluded to, if this were 45 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 1: a global history of spirit writing and communication like that 46 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 1: would be a whole different episode. During the rise of 47 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: spiritualism in the United States specifically, there was an explosive 48 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 1: growth and the number and the variety of these kinds 49 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 1: of devices. They all had their pros and cons, but 50 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 1: towards the end of the nineteenth century, one approach to 51 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 1: solving transdimensional communication was embraced by believers and nonbelievers alike. 52 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 1: It is still popular today, and that is, of course 53 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:12,399 Speaker 1: spirit boards or wegi boards as they came to be known, 54 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 1: and their commercial offerings. So just as a level set 55 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:19,640 Speaker 1: in case you don't know what we're talking about, a 56 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 1: weed to board or a talking board or spirit board, 57 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 1: you'll hear all of those phrases used. Is a printed board. 58 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:28,800 Speaker 1: Sometimes it's painted, sometimes it's printed and then varnished. There 59 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 1: are lots of different ways they can be made. It's 60 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 1: usually rectangular or round with letters, numbers and a few 61 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 1: words printed on it. We're gonna talk a little bit 62 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 1: more about specifics in a bit, But then there is 63 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 1: a planchett that sits on top of the board and 64 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 1: players gently rest their fingertips on the plan schett. To play. 65 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 1: The players ask questions and then wait for answers to 66 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 1: be spelled out by the plantchett moving across the board 67 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 1: to land on the various options. Where do these answers 68 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 1: come from? Well, that is part of the fun, and 69 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 1: it's been actually a matter of debate since the beginning. 70 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 1: In spring of six, an Associated Press news article that 71 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 1: was first published in the New York Tribune and then 72 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 1: got picked up and appeared in papers all across the 73 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 1: US mentioned spiritualists using what was referred to as a 74 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:22,239 Speaker 1: talking board. This article ran under the title the New 75 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 1: plan Set. If you've ever played with a Wegia board, 76 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 1: you know that the plant set is a little tool 77 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 1: for the board. It's normally shaped like an inverted heart. 78 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 1: There's a small pointer window that it moves across the 79 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 1: game board to select letters or words as a means 80 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 1: of communication. But before the development of the Regia plant set, 81 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 1: the object that was usually called a plan set was 82 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 1: shaped the same basic way, but it had a pencil 83 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 1: attached to it vertically at one of the points where 84 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:56,599 Speaker 1: it was touching the surface, so that surface would be 85 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 1: a piece of paper, not a board with printing on it. 86 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:03,480 Speaker 1: That older version of the plant sett was invented in 87 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 1: France in the eighteen fifties as a divination tool, thus 88 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:10,839 Speaker 1: the name it means little plank in French. As the 89 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 1: plant Sjett moved across the surface, that pencil on it 90 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 1: produced writing on the piece of paper, writing typically more 91 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 1: like a scribble that you had to discern and interpret. 92 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 1: It was really subject to different interpretations. Yes, and we're 93 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:31,480 Speaker 1: giving you all of this background on the plant set 94 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 1: because it helps to understand the opening of that eight 95 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:38,600 Speaker 1: eight six article Tracy just mentioned, which starts out Planchett 96 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:41,679 Speaker 1: is simply nowhere, said a Western man at the Fifth 97 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 1: Avenue Hotel, compared with the new scheme of communication being 98 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 1: used in Ohio. I know of whole communities that are 99 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 1: wild over the talking board, as some of them call it. 100 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 1: I have never heard a name for it, but I 101 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 1: have seen and heard some of the most remarkable things 102 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 1: about its operations, things that seemed to pass all human 103 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:05,480 Speaker 1: comprehension or explanation. The write up goes on to share 104 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 1: an interview with this unnamed Western man about the board 105 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 1: and the plant set. The description is gonna sound really familiar. 106 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:16,559 Speaker 1: He sketched out a board for the reporter just about 107 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: exactly what you would see if you bought a commercially 108 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:24,679 Speaker 1: available version today. According to this interviewee, it was about 109 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 1: eighteen by twenty inches. The board included the alphabet numerals 110 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 1: zero to nine, the yes and no options, and then, 111 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:38,840 Speaker 1: according to this account, the words good eve and good night, 112 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 1: which sounds like the same thing to me, So like, 113 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 1: what uh to use this? There needed to be quote, 114 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 1: a little table three or four inches high with four legs. 115 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 1: According to the interviewee quote, anyone can make the whole 116 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:58,359 Speaker 1: apparatus in fifteen minutes with a jack knife and a 117 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 1: marking brush. You can see this would be a lot 118 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 1: faster and maybe easier than trying to decipher scribbles that 119 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 1: had been created with the original style of plant set. Yeah, 120 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 1: and to be clear, that little table four inches high 121 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 1: he's talking about is what would become the Wegia plan chet. 122 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 1: The four inches high seems very tall to me and 123 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 1: like it might careen around into kind of a tippy way. 124 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 1: But listen, I wasn't there. Uh. This whole right up though, 125 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 1: is pretty thorough in terms of just describing how the 126 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 1: board was used. It kind of reads almost like a 127 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 1: game manual. The Western man describes taking the board in 128 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 1: your lap across from another person, and each person then 129 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 1: grasping what he called the little table today as we said, 130 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 1: we'd call that the plan chet, and then asking the 131 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 1: question are there any communications? According to this account quote, 132 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 1: pretty soon you think the other person is pushing the table. 133 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 1: He thinks you are doing the same. He told the 134 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 1: reporter that the communication starts with the use of yes 135 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 1: or no and then progresses to spelling out more detailed 136 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 1: replies to questions. The only real difference in this description 137 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 1: to the way a Weegi board functions today is that 138 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 1: the users would look for where the legs of the 139 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 1: table or the plan chet landed on the board instead 140 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 1: of having that clear window to see what letters centered 141 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 1: in it. This created some confusion and people would have 142 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 1: to re ask questions because of course two legs could 143 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:32,440 Speaker 1: be touching letters at the same time. But the account 144 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 1: reads quote, some remarkable conversations have been carried on until 145 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:40,679 Speaker 1: men have become a measure superstitious about it. This ap 146 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:44,440 Speaker 1: article really sets out the whole life that the spirit 147 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 1: board would have because It also offers some cautionary tales 148 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:52,959 Speaker 1: about its dangers. The interviewee mentions a man named Jack 149 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 1: who became so distressed at his family's obsession with this 150 00:08:57,120 --> 00:09:01,199 Speaker 1: talking board that he burned it. Allegedly, when the wife 151 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 1: had it replaced and asked what happened to the first one, 152 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 1: the new talking board spelled out, Jack burned it. This 153 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 1: account mentions valuable business information being communicated, and even the 154 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:18,320 Speaker 1: possibility that a person not touching the plan set could 155 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 1: silently ask a question if two other people were touching it, 156 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 1: and that the answer to that silent question would still 157 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 1: be spelled out. This had become hugely popular in a 158 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 1: lot of Ohio towns, and according to the rite up, 159 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:35,599 Speaker 1: it was replacing card games at parties as an amusement. 160 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 1: All all of the superstitious stuff, all of all of 161 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 1: the functioning. But this article also mentions the bias with 162 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 1: which people approach the board, although it doesn't call it that, 163 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:51,960 Speaker 1: Western man merely says quote. There are, of course any 164 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 1: number of nonsensical and irrelevant answers spelled out, but the 165 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 1: workers pay little heed to them. If the answers are relevant, 166 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:03,720 Speaker 1: they talk get over with a superstitious awe. This entire 167 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 1: thing that we've been discussing has so many ingredients about 168 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 1: what the board was, what it could do, and how 169 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 1: informative and or spooky it could be that if it 170 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 1: hadn't come out several years before the commercial release of Luigia, 171 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 1: it would be easy to think it was sort of 172 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 1: a nineteenth century viral ad campaign in the style of 173 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 1: the Blair Witch Project. So in just a minute, we'll 174 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:27,440 Speaker 1: be talking about a talking board that made its way 175 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 1: to the White House. But first we will pause for 176 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 1: a sponsor break. In the second half of six that 177 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 1: was the year that article we mentioned in the first 178 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:49,320 Speaker 1: section appeared. The New York Times ran a very brief 179 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 1: but really interesting note under the headline the President's witch Board. 180 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:56,839 Speaker 1: It turns out that when Grover Cleveland got married, the 181 00:10:56,920 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 1: Lemonster Massachusetts company W S. Read to Wait in Manufacturing 182 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:04,440 Speaker 1: sent him what the company called a witch board as 183 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 1: a wedding gift. The President's response was all that was 184 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:12,719 Speaker 1: included in the Times blurb with the header of Executive Mansion, Washington, 185 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 1: June twelfth, six It reads, quote, Dear Sir, I acknowledge 186 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:20,200 Speaker 1: with thanks the witch board you sent me as a 187 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 1: wedding present. I accept it as an evidence of kind 188 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 1: feeling and friendship, and can admire it for its ingenuity, 189 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 1: but I hardly think that I shall immediately test its 190 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:33,199 Speaker 1: power to quote disclose the past and foretell the future. 191 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:38,560 Speaker 1: Yours very truly, Grover Cleveland. So that date is important. 192 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 1: It is an account of a company making a witch 193 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 1: board for a president in eighteen eighties six. As we 194 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 1: look at the rise of the Luigia board, it's notable 195 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 1: that this one predated it, but it's not clear if 196 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 1: this was a product that was intended for a short 197 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 1: run of production, or whether it was some kind of 198 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 1: prototype or one off. We do know that WS Reid 199 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 1: did not start offering the talking boards widely to consumers 200 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 1: until a few years after that. So this leads us 201 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 1: to the point that there are varying stories of the 202 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 1: invention of the Wigia board. Many even among a very 203 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 1: small group of men who were part of the first 204 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 1: big manufacturer and marketing push. The story varies, and it 205 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 1: has changed over the years. Now. Some of that is 206 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:29,080 Speaker 1: probably just a matter of memory failure, but some of 207 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 1: it was due to legal disputes and various stakeholders trying 208 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:37,680 Speaker 1: to ensure the story that circulated supported their claims. That 209 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:40,839 Speaker 1: ap article that we were talking about earlier was seen 210 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 1: by Charles Kennard, or it probably was. He was certainly 211 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 1: aware of the growing interest and talking boards. Canard was 212 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 1: a businessman who was born in Delaware in eighteen fifty seven, 213 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 1: and he had made an early fortune by developing a 214 00:12:57,000 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 1: fertilizer made from bone meal that was rich in phosp fit. 215 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:05,560 Speaker 1: But then Kennard and his partner, Henry clay Chase kind 216 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 1: of faltered in their fertilizer business that was a very 217 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 1: competitive industry. Other problems like drought had impacted their production 218 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:17,959 Speaker 1: and they lost the plant. Kennard moved to Baltimore, Maryland, 219 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:21,560 Speaker 1: to start over once more in fertilizer. The change in 220 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:24,960 Speaker 1: market really didn't help his efforts, though, so soon he 221 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 1: turned from fertilizer to real estate, which was more successful. 222 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 1: The address of his Baltimore fertilizer factory would become important 223 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 1: to the Wegis story. It was the address he used 224 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 1: to form the company that he would use to manufacture them. 225 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 1: That company, which was exclusively intended to make and sell 226 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:48,680 Speaker 1: what would become WIGI boards, was the Kennard Novelty company 227 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:51,560 Speaker 1: that was started in eight ninety by Charles Kinnard and 228 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 1: four other businessmen. So it was Kennard, Colonel Washington Booey, 229 00:13:56,360 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 1: Harry Wells Rusk, John F. Green, and William H. A. Moppin. 230 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 1: To be clear, no one involved with the Canard Novelty 231 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 1: Company was a spiritualist. They were businessmen who saw interest 232 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 1: in a product that they thought they could capitalize on them. 233 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 1: There was another person in the mix early on who 234 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 1: did not become a part of Canard Novelty. That was 235 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 1: ec Wright, who made his living building cabinets and coffins. 236 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 1: During a period before Kennard opened his business in Baltimore, 237 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 1: he was in Chestertown, Maryland, and had an office right 238 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 1: next to Rice, and Cannard is said to have described 239 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 1: these talking boards that he had heard about. He asked 240 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 1: Rice to make some. This would lead to Rice later 241 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 1: claiming that he was the inventor of the Weigia board 242 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 1: and that Kennard had taken it from him and started 243 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 1: his business. Cannard did sell the boards in Chestertown for 244 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 1: a few years immediately following that eight article, but he 245 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 1: clearly had a larger vision for the scope of his 246 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 1: sales efforts. Another important figure in the mix was a 247 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 1: man named Elijah Bond. Kennard met Bond, who was a 248 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 1: lawyer after he moved to Baltimore, and it was Bond 249 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 1: who applied for the first patent on Theligia board. Bond's 250 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 1: sister in law was instrumental in securing that patent and 251 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 1: for naming the board. You've probably read, or maybe worked 252 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 1: out for yourself, that the word luigia is a combination 253 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 1: of the French and German words for yes, we and yeah. 254 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 1: That may be true, but the lore for the name's origin, 255 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 1: as given by Cannard Novelty, was very much different. According 256 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 1: to their story, the board named itself with the help 257 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 1: of a medium, and that medium just so happened to 258 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 1: be Elijah Bond's sister in law, a woman named Helen Peters. 259 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 1: According to the publicized story, the group held a sort 260 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 1: of seance with Helen leading it, and they asked the 261 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 1: board what to call it. It's spelled out O U 262 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 1: I J A. When asked for a meaning to the word, 263 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 1: the boards told the assembled group that it meant good luck. 264 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 1: But there is a second version of that story that 265 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 1: is not so mystical. And it may just involve bad eyesight. 266 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 1: According to notes that were exchanged among those businessmen, Helen 267 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 1: Peters was wearing a locket with a woman's picture in it, 268 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:26,479 Speaker 1: which had the word Wuijia over her image. A Smithsonian 269 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 1: article from by Linda Rodriguez McRobbie suggests that this actually 270 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 1: could have been a portrait of the woman known as Weeta, 271 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 1: which was the pen name of English novelist Maria Louise 272 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 1: remay Remy would have been alive when the Wigia board 273 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 1: was named, and she would have been in her early sixties, 274 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 1: so it's possible because she was also, you know, a 275 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 1: pretty outspoken feminist, and a lot of women really followed 276 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 1: her story, so it's certainly possible Helen Peters had her 277 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 1: picture in a locket. Whether or not Helen Peters really 278 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 1: tried to channel spirits to name the board, that will 279 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 1: probably remain a mystery. But she was present at a 280 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 1: demonstration of the Weigia board at the U S. Patent Office. 281 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:13,399 Speaker 1: This would have been a really unusual patent filing, because 282 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 1: how do you prove that a printed board with the 283 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 1: plan chet is capable of channeling messages from the spirit realm? 284 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 1: According to family lore. When Elijah Bond and Helen Peters 285 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 1: went to the patent office, the clerk they spoke with 286 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 1: was worried that he'd become a laughing stock if he 287 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 1: issued a patent on their application. So to prove that 288 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 1: the board worked, the investigating patent officer asked that Bond 289 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 1: and Peters use it to spell out his first name. 290 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 1: They did successfully. The clerk was allegedly a little shaken, 291 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:51,120 Speaker 1: and Bond received the patent on February tenth. But it's 292 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 1: worth noting here that Bond was a patent attorney, he 293 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 1: probably knew everyone in the patent office, or he would 294 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 1: have been able to acquire such a formation pretty easily. 295 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 1: Something that's interesting, though, is if you read the text 296 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:08,880 Speaker 1: of the patent, it does not really give any mention 297 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:13,679 Speaker 1: of channeling spirits. It mentions questions being answered by the board, 298 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:16,679 Speaker 1: but it gives no explanation of how that takes place. 299 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 1: The patent summary reads quote, My invention relates to improvements 300 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:25,120 Speaker 1: in toys or games, which I designate as an Uigia 301 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:29,400 Speaker 1: or Egyptian luck board, and the objects of the invention 302 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 1: are to produce a toy or game by which two 303 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:37,199 Speaker 1: or more persons can amuse themselves by asking questions of 304 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:40,879 Speaker 1: any kind and having them answered by the device used 305 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 1: and operated by the touch of hand, so that the 306 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:48,920 Speaker 1: answers are designated by letters on the board. The invention 307 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:52,959 Speaker 1: consists of a board of suitable thickness, having the letters 308 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:56,919 Speaker 1: of the alphabet printed, painted, engraved, or affixed upon it 309 00:18:57,040 --> 00:19:00,359 Speaker 1: in any suitable manner, but flush with the sir fists, 310 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:03,880 Speaker 1: and also the numerals from one to zero inclusive, as 311 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 1: well as other configurations, and in conjunction, therewith of a 312 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 1: peculiarly shaped table having legs and a pointer, and said 313 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:16,400 Speaker 1: table operated by the hand when placed upon said board, 314 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 1: all of which will be more fully described here and after, 315 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:23,440 Speaker 1: and specifically pointed out in the claims reference being had 316 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:27,399 Speaker 1: to the accompanying drawings and the letters marked there on. 317 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:31,199 Speaker 1: It's an interesting patent because there's no here's how this works. 318 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:34,959 Speaker 1: It's just like I invented two things. They go together. 319 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 1: But there's nowhere in the patent even when you read, 320 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 1: like into the deeper discussion in details, is there here's 321 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:46,400 Speaker 1: how it works. Um, you can see why this would 322 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 1: have been a tricky one. But once that patent was secured, 323 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 1: Bond assigned it to Charles Kinnard and William H. Mobbin. 324 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 1: They then sold the patent to the Canard Novelty Company, 325 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 1: which applied for a trademark on the name we Jim. 326 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 1: Although the company bore his name, Kennard was the general manager, 327 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 1: he wasn't the president. Harry Wells Rusk was president. Was 328 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 1: because he had more experience in that type of thing. 329 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 1: Colonel Washington Booie was the treasurer, and he also held 330 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:19,359 Speaker 1: a controlling interest in the company, having provided more of 331 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 1: the capital than anyone else. Are going to talk about 332 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:25,439 Speaker 1: Colonel Booey a bit more in just a moment after 333 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:28,119 Speaker 1: we hear from the sponsors. That keeps stuffy missed in 334 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 1: history class going. Colonel Washington Booie the third was born 335 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:44,679 Speaker 1: into a wealthy family. He was well educated. He had 336 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:48,199 Speaker 1: become a prominent customs figure with an appointment to the 337 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:52,160 Speaker 1: role of Acting Surveyor of the Port of Baltimore. Role 338 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 1: he was appointed to you by President William McKinley. When 339 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 1: Buoye and his four colleagues founded the Canard Novelty Company, 340 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 1: there was a point in their incorporation papers that would 341 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 1: become really significant. Point five of those papers stated quote. 342 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 1: We do further certify that the said corporation will be 343 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:15,640 Speaker 1: managed by five directors, and that Harry Wells Rusk, Charles W. Knard, 344 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 1: William H. A. Moppin Washington Booey, and John F. Green 345 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 1: are the names of the directors who will manage the 346 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 1: concerns of the said corporation for the first year. We're 347 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 1: mentioning that here because it is going to come back 348 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:33,400 Speaker 1: up in just a moment. We Ji boards started appearing 349 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 1: in newspaper advertisements in that timing is not surprising. It's 350 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 1: right when spiritualism was having a major surge in the US, 351 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 1: and the advertising really played on that. For example, one 352 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 1: ad read Wigia, the Egyptian luck Board, a talking board. 353 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:55,879 Speaker 1: The Wigia is without doubt the most interesting, remarkable, and 354 00:21:55,960 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 1: mysterious production of the nineteenth century. It's operation are always 355 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 1: interesting and frequently invaluable, answering as it does questions concerning 356 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:10,119 Speaker 1: the past, present and future with marvelous accuracy. It furnishes 357 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 1: never failing amusement and recreation for all classes, while for 358 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 1: the scientific or thoughtful, it's mysterious movements invite the most 359 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:23,399 Speaker 1: careful research and investigation. Apparently forming the link which unites 360 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 1: the known with the unknown, the material with the immaterial. 361 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 1: It forces upon us the conviction that great truth was 362 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:35,120 Speaker 1: contained in the statement of the Danish prince there are 363 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:38,359 Speaker 1: more things in heaven and earth Horatio than where ever 364 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 1: dreamed of in thy philosophy. Although the Wigia board may 365 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 1: have caused some to fear it, it was really kind 366 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 1: of seen as a harmless pastime right from its introduction 367 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:53,639 Speaker 1: in a society column in the Denton Journal of Denton, 368 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:59,120 Speaker 1: Maryland on January thirty. One of the entries casually mentions 369 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 1: the board right alongside other innocuous games. Quote Wigia cards, 370 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:07,359 Speaker 1: tiddly winks, and a delightful repast were the features of 371 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:11,199 Speaker 1: the entertainment given the Thursday Evening Sociable by Mr and 372 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 1: Mrs G. A. Dekine this week. A week before that, 373 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 1: there was another mentioned, this time in the Catoctin Clarion 374 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:23,160 Speaker 1: of Mechanics Town, Maryland that ran an opinion piece titled 375 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 1: the Wuijia Craze. The brief write up called it the 376 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 1: latest fad and made it clear that, in the opinion 377 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 1: of the writer, only people who were prone to superstitious 378 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 1: behavior would take it seriously. That article goes on to say, quote, 379 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,919 Speaker 1: it is, in its way a most convincing proof of 380 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 1: the existence of a vein of superstition, more or less 381 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 1: potent to control belief in every human. It mentions that 382 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:52,919 Speaker 1: there are two Wigia boards in the town, and that 383 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 1: while reports are flooding in about the quote marvelous answers 384 00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 1: that people are getting through them. The writer's doubtful concludes 385 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:06,640 Speaker 1: with quote, at our first opportunity, these questions will be asked, 386 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 1: and should the answers astound us, we will honestly confess it. 387 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 1: For the present, we doubt Both of this and the 388 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:20,440 Speaker 1: previous Society column piece ran before Cannard Novelty had their patents. Yeah, 389 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 1: it seems like they probably had made these boards and 390 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 1: given them to people in society that they knew because 391 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 1: these are all businessmen to play with, and that like 392 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 1: kind of drove their early word of mouth advertising. There 393 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 1: is an element in the multifaceted marketing identity of the 394 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:40,159 Speaker 1: Weichi board that offers an interesting case study in the 395 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 1: crossover of business and spiritualism, because the board was marketed 396 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:48,440 Speaker 1: both as an amusement or a toy, as well as 397 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:52,439 Speaker 1: an object that just might connect people with the afterlife 398 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 1: of the spirit realm. The net was cast really, really 399 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 1: wide to catch all kinds of different levels of interest 400 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 1: in such a thing, ing people who believed in spiritualism 401 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:06,159 Speaker 1: wanted them, people who thought it would just be a 402 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:10,359 Speaker 1: fun parlor game wanted them, and kids wanted them. Some 403 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:13,440 Speaker 1: mediums started using them, but there were plenty who did 404 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 1: not appreciate the fact that a d I Y seance 405 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 1: tool had been made available to the masses, thus cutting 406 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 1: into their business. We mentioned in our recent episode on 407 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:26,439 Speaker 1: Rose Makenburg that she had warned people that the number 408 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:30,119 Speaker 1: of people fraudulently claiming to be psychics jumped up in 409 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:34,440 Speaker 1: times when there was panic and war and economic uncertainty. 410 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 1: The same holds true for sales of Luigi Board, so 411 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:42,200 Speaker 1: in times following some kind of social crisis, sales would rise. 412 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 1: The Luigia Board had a great success right out of 413 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 1: the gate. Demand was already outpacing production, so a second 414 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:54,439 Speaker 1: factory had to be opened, and then more. The company 415 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 1: opened up factories in New York, Chicago, and London, in 416 00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:00,959 Speaker 1: addition to the two in Baltimore. But there was another 417 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 1: big change for Canard Novelty Company in eight nine two 418 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 1: a huge change in leadership, instructure, and in name. Booie 419 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:14,400 Speaker 1: and Rusk reorganized the entire company, and in the process 420 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 1: they pushed out the other three founders. That meant that 421 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 1: Charles Kennard, for whom it was named, was no longer 422 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:24,400 Speaker 1: part of the organization. But it also didn't stay Canard 423 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 1: Novelty for very long because Booie and Rusk also changed 424 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:31,119 Speaker 1: the name of the company two Uigion Novelty Company, and 425 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:33,399 Speaker 1: they moved it out of the offices that Kennard had 426 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:37,200 Speaker 1: established at two twenty South Charles Street to a new location. 427 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 1: It almost seems that Buoye, who had the controlling interest 428 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 1: because of his larger financial contribution to the startup, had 429 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:47,360 Speaker 1: had a plan in mind all along to take over 430 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 1: the company completely, thus our mention of that we're going 431 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:54,480 Speaker 1: to run it together for one year clause. But perhaps 432 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:58,120 Speaker 1: the most significant change was that they put a man 433 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 1: named William Fold into a position of head of operations. 434 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 1: William Fold had been part of the early Kennard Novelty 435 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 1: Company team. He was hired as an employee and also 436 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 1: became a stockholder. He was also good friends with Booie 437 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:15,200 Speaker 1: and Rusk. He and Booie were particularly close, and this 438 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 1: friendship would lead to a lot of opportunities for Fold. 439 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 1: William Fold, who was born in eighteen seventy, was said 440 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:25,719 Speaker 1: to have been imaginative and inventive from the very beginning 441 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,760 Speaker 1: of his life. As a kid, he made up games 442 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:32,479 Speaker 1: to entertain his nine siblings, So it seems sort of 443 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:34,679 Speaker 1: right that he landed a job at a company that 444 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 1: made what many people considered to be a game. He 445 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 1: got his first job at the company as a shop foreman, 446 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:44,399 Speaker 1: according to one report. Others list him as a varnish er. 447 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 1: Some other accounts kind of combine those two and say, like, yes, 448 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:51,399 Speaker 1: he was doing things like varnishing, but he was also 449 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,720 Speaker 1: overseeing other people in the shop. But in any case, 450 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 1: it definitely was a massive jump up the ladder to 451 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 1: suddenly be named general manager. Once he moved into a 452 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:06,800 Speaker 1: leadership position at Wegia novelty company, Fold started filing more 453 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 1: patent applications, making improvements to the wegi board. Ultimately, he'd 454 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:15,399 Speaker 1: file several patent and trademark applications, all of them as 455 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:19,119 Speaker 1: a means to protect the company's legal interests. Five years 456 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:23,879 Speaker 1: into folds tenure running the company, things once again shifted significantly, 457 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,359 Speaker 1: so up to that point, Colonel Washington Buey and Harry 458 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:29,640 Speaker 1: Wells Rusk were still involved in the day to day 459 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 1: operations of the company, but they were both ready to retire, 460 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:35,200 Speaker 1: although they didn't really want to give up that really 461 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:37,879 Speaker 1: nice revenue stream that they got from Wigi Board. So 462 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 1: the Wegia Novelty Company assigned its assets to Buoy and 463 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 1: Rusk proportionate to their holdings of the company. That meant 464 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 1: that went to Buoy and the remainder to Rusk and 465 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 1: Fold opened up the Wigia Board to licensees approved by 466 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 1: the Regia Novelty Company. One of those licensees was William Fold. 467 00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 1: Really it was William Fold and his brother Isaac Fold, 468 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 1: under a company named Isaac Fold and Brother. Their license 469 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 1: was agreed to in July and had a term of 470 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 1: three years. William and Isaac manufactured wigi boards as well 471 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 1: as other novelties during that time, but when the three 472 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 1: year term ended, Williams next move just destroyed his relationship 473 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 1: with his brother. Isaac. Fold and Brother were not given 474 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 1: the option to continue to manufacture Wigi boards, but the 475 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 1: Wegia Novelty Company did enter into a new licensing agreement. 476 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 1: This time with William fold only excluding Isaac. There's a 477 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 1: little bit of a Chicken or the Egg situation here, 478 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 1: because we don't know if William and Isaac had a 479 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 1: falling out that led to this business decision, or if 480 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 1: the business decision was a betrayal that rendered their relationship 481 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 1: as brothers irreparable. We're gonna get into what happened after 482 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 1: all of this uh in our next episode, and in 483 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 1: part two of this two part episode, there is a 484 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:08,400 Speaker 1: lot more coming. Like I said at the top, we 485 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 1: will also talk about UH, some court cases involving which boards, 486 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:16,560 Speaker 1: some pop culture references to each boards, and some psychology 487 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:19,520 Speaker 1: of it, as well as more corporate intrigue on the 488 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 1: next one. But in the meantime, I have a little 489 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 1: brief listener mail. This is from our listener e J, 490 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 1: and it is about our WEIG episode, which I mentioned 491 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 1: at the top of this episode. I have been saving 492 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:33,560 Speaker 1: it for when we finally got to Wigi boards UH, 493 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 1: just to have a little nice bookender. So this is 494 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:39,240 Speaker 1: a brief emale. It says, Hi, my name is e J, 495 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 1: and I love your podcast. I listened to it every week. 496 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 1: I wanted to write and tell you about Wednesday's episode 497 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 1: about we G. I had one of the craziest days 498 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 1: of my life this Wednesday, and I got into the 499 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:52,480 Speaker 1: car after work crying. I'm sorry, I have been there. 500 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 1: It's a really terrible feeling. But e J says, my 501 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:57,720 Speaker 1: mood turned around when I turned on your podcast and 502 00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 1: it was about my favorite photographer of all time. No 503 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 1: one knows about him, and I love to hear people 504 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,560 Speaker 1: talking about his unique work. It was a glimmer of 505 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:07,520 Speaker 1: good in what seemed like an awful day. Thank you 506 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 1: for giving me that little bit of joy. Another thing 507 00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 1: about Weg that many people don't know is that they 508 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 1: suspected that he had mob connections. He would show up 509 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 1: minutes after mob hits and would say it was because 510 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:20,760 Speaker 1: of the police scanner, but a lot believed he was 511 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 1: tied into the mob. I thought that was a cool 512 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 1: fact that not many people know about. Thank you for 513 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:28,240 Speaker 1: giving me this podcast to listen to each week, e J. 514 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:30,720 Speaker 1: E J one, I'm so sorry you had a bad 515 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 1: day too. I'm so thankful we could help in our 516 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 1: small way, uh and turn it around a little bit. Three. 517 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 1: I had heard that that mob connection thing, but I 518 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:42,480 Speaker 1: could never find any thing beyond sort of rumory stuff 519 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 1: about it, so I didn't include in the episode, but 520 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:46,800 Speaker 1: it's sure makes sense given that he did, as you said, 521 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:50,240 Speaker 1: show up right as things seemed to be happening. Uh, 522 00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 1: and I well before the police. We did mention he 523 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 1: got to a lot of crime scenes before the police did, 524 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:59,200 Speaker 1: which seemed a little I don't know if suspicious is 525 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:01,720 Speaker 1: the right word, but a little confusing. That is, after all, 526 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 1: how he got his name. We do because they joked 527 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 1: that he was psychic. Um, So thank you for sharing 528 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:09,959 Speaker 1: that with us, and I'm glad, like I said, that 529 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:12,240 Speaker 1: we can help make a bad day a little bit better. 530 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:14,480 Speaker 1: If you would like to write to us, you can 531 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 1: do so at History Podcast at i heeart radio dot com. 532 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 1: You can also find us on social media as missed 533 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:22,480 Speaker 1: in History And if you would like to subscribe to 534 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:24,600 Speaker 1: the podcast and you haven't gotten around to it yet, 535 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:26,760 Speaker 1: it is the easiest thing in the world. 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