1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:04,120 Speaker 1: Recent court filing by the Special Counsel John Durham stated 2 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: that a technology executives whose company was hired by the 3 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 1: White House to provide Internet related services was exploiting the 4 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 1: sense of agreement and his access to the White House 5 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 1: Internet domain name information to work with the Clinton campaign 6 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 1: operatives in twenty sixteen to create a quote false narrative 7 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 1: that rival Kennett Donald Trump was colluding with Russia. We 8 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 1: also know now that Hillary Clinton's campaign from twenty sixteen 9 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 1: has been fined because they broke the rules when they 10 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:42,839 Speaker 1: were supporting and paying for misinformation, the Russia hoax bs 11 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 1: that they put out there in the world that actually 12 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 1: they used to impeach Donald Trump. Now a quick reminder, 13 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 1: if you're listening to this podcast, please make sure you 14 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 1: hit the subscriber auto download button and tell your friends 15 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 1: about this podcast, share this on social media, and if 16 00:00:57,040 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 1: you would write us a five star review to help 17 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 1: us as Democrats have been attacking our podcasts recently with 18 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:07,400 Speaker 1: bad reviews. Now joining me is United States Senator Marsha Blackburn. 19 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 1: I know we got a lot to talk about, but 20 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 1: let's first talk about Hillary Clinton's campaign. Senator. We know 21 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 1: the laptop from Hunter Biden is real. All right, that's 22 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:18,319 Speaker 1: a fact. You and I have known that for years. 23 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 1: But that's big because now Democrats admitting in yeah, we 24 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 1: now know that Hillary Clinton's campaign has been fine for 25 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:30,479 Speaker 1: doing an illegal activity, which was which was paying for misinformation, 26 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 1: the same thing that they said Russia cannot do. And 27 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 1: it's a threat to our democracy. Let's get your take 28 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 1: on that, and then let's move to this other legislation. Yes, 29 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 1: and what's the Clinton campaign. What the FEC has done 30 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 1: is to find them exactly as you said, because what 31 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 1: they were doing was colluding and working with these outside 32 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 1: entities to build out this narrative. Now, it started out 33 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 1: as one of these campaign disinformation plots and let's make 34 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 1: up a story and let's blame Donald Trump for this 35 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:18,239 Speaker 1: because he is our opponent. And then, as you said, 36 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 1: it grew from that. And it's one of those things 37 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 1: where someone is a sore loser. And I know parents 38 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 1: to deal with this all the time with kids. I 39 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 1: did with mine. Something comes up, they end up losing, 40 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 1: they're angry about it and they want to lash out. Well, 41 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 1: what the Clinton campaign did was to try to discredit Trump, 42 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 1: blame him for something that was not true. They made 43 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:56,079 Speaker 1: it up, and then they built out this narrative, then 44 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:59,920 Speaker 1: they got the FBI in on it, and the Russia 45 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 1: collusion hoax came about. And then that brings you to 46 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 1: twenty twenty, as you mentioned, with the Biden Hunter Biden 47 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:17,360 Speaker 1: lamptop fiasco and the way Joe Biden continued to say 48 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:23,359 Speaker 1: his son never discussed any business dealings with him, and 49 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 1: the way the media covered for Hunter Biden saying that 50 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 1: he was not involved in these transactions, and of course 51 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 1: his business partner Tony bob Olenski said he is involved 52 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 1: and laid out what was there. And now the New 53 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 1: York Times and Washington Posts have said the laptop is real, 54 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 1: the accusations are real. And this is why those of 55 00:03:54,480 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 1: US on Judiciary Committee have continued to support John Durham 56 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 1: in his investigation and the indictments that he's bringing forward, 57 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 1: because we need to get to the bottom of this. 58 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 1: Let me ask you this center, I am worried now 59 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 1: that there is no way that any private citizen, or 60 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:18,919 Speaker 1: for that matter, the president of the United States of America, 61 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 1: if he's of the wrong party, the Republican Party, the 62 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 1: GOPA Conservative can trust the United States government. I'm talking 63 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 1: about the FBI, the Deep State, the DOJ, because everybody 64 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:36,119 Speaker 1: knew while they were using the Steel dossier and while 65 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:39,479 Speaker 1: they were using all of this to impeach Donald Trump, 66 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:44,159 Speaker 1: the deep State, the FBI, all the DOJ knew that 67 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 1: this was all paid for by Hillary Clinton's campaign, and 68 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:50,919 Speaker 1: they knew it wasn't legitimate, and they still allowed what 69 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 1: I would refer to is nothing more than the potential 70 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 1: overthrow of the will of the people by impeaching a 71 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 1: present based on a false narrative, a lie. They knew 72 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: it was a lie, and they still allowed it to happen. 73 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 1: Do you have any faith in the DOJ or the 74 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 1: FBI at this point, knowing that they could have stopped 75 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:09,719 Speaker 1: all this saying no, this is not real and Hillary 76 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:14,480 Speaker 1: Clinton's campaign paid for it, and that is exactly what 77 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 1: they should have done the minute it was presented to them. 78 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 1: But it's like they were all in on building this 79 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:25,040 Speaker 1: out and it took on this life of its own. 80 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 1: And that is the reason that people do not have 81 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 1: faith in this DOJ and in this Justice Department. And 82 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 1: when they hear somebody blamed for something, they're saying, hey, 83 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 1: wait a minute, I want to see why, and I 84 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:47,480 Speaker 1: want more of the detail, and I want to hear 85 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:50,839 Speaker 1: the other side of the story from this person. And 86 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:53,480 Speaker 1: of course Trump kept saying at the top of this lungs, 87 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 1: they're making this up. I don't have this involvement. I'm 88 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 1: not this has never happened. And the media kept saying 89 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:05,919 Speaker 1: Donald Trump is lying, and then Trump kept saying, no, 90 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 1: they're spying on me. What don't we know now they 91 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:15,360 Speaker 1: were spying on him. He was right about every bit 92 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 1: of that, and that does bring us to this legislation. 93 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 1: It is one of those things that is so beyond 94 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 1: what you would believe because you don't expect this kind 95 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 1: of activity. But then they went in and they somehow 96 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:43,160 Speaker 1: got this individual that had this contract to come into 97 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 1: their little cabal, and then they used him to snoop 98 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 1: so that they could say we've got inside sources and 99 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:59,719 Speaker 1: to blame Donald Trump for this myriad of things, spying 100 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:02,040 Speaker 1: on people in the White House. And as I've told 101 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:05,480 Speaker 1: you before, when you look at what was happening was 102 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 1: Trump Tower and the spying there as he was President 103 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 1: elect Trump and then going into the White House. I 104 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 1: vice chaired the Transition Committee for President Trump, and I 105 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 1: still cannot find out from dj if they were monitoring 106 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 1: my email, my phone calls, I don't know. They have 107 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 1: still not responded to me. Devin Nunez was a vice 108 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 1: chair of that. He's also asked, and these are things 109 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 1: we'd like to know. Were you without our knowledge? Were 110 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 1: you in here spying? And let's be clear for people, 111 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 1: because I think this matters so much. We know now, Senator, 112 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 1: that they were spying on Trump from the very beginning 113 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 1: when he was president elect. We know that they had 114 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 1: insider spying on what was going in and out the 115 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 1: White House right with with monitoring the Internet. We know 116 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 1: that they were lying about the spying, and they were 117 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 1: lying about Donald Trump, and they were lying about the 118 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 1: you know this report and this still dossier. We know 119 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 1: that the dj knew of all these lies, and we 120 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 1: know that the FBI was was this This to me 121 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 1: sounds like a active coup attempt by the former Obama 122 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 1: administration slash the Democratic Party because even after they knew 123 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 1: all of this was set up on purpose by the left, 124 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 1: they still went with it to impeach the president. Is 125 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:39,680 Speaker 1: there going to be any accountability for this or is 126 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 1: this just like, yeah, we did it, deal with it. No, 127 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 1: We're not going to let them get by with saying yeah, 128 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:48,560 Speaker 1: we did it and it took you four years to 129 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 1: prove it, five years, six years whatever. This is why 130 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:57,679 Speaker 1: we are continuing to push the Durham report, and it 131 00:08:57,800 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 1: is why we had put Bill Barr to move him 132 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 1: from an investigator to moving him to a special counsel 133 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:10,559 Speaker 1: so they could not shut this down. And we were 134 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:16,320 Speaker 1: successful in doing that before President Trump left office and 135 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 1: being able to go back and say, okay, building out 136 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:27,719 Speaker 1: this whole story, this is what has transpired, this is 137 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:32,200 Speaker 1: what they did. Here is the proof. Hunter Biden's laptop 138 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:35,680 Speaker 1: is a big part of this because what did they do. 139 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 1: They said, Okay, you know we're going to push We're 140 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 1: going to push this collusion through DJ and you've got 141 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 1: James Comey and Peter Struck, all these people that were 142 00:09:56,679 --> 00:10:01,079 Speaker 1: involved in knowing in this and Durham has already had 143 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 1: a couple of indictments. The assessment indictment was an important 144 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 1: one and giving him the time to do his job 145 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 1: and bring this forward so we will know and have 146 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 1: that complete workup of what happened, when it happened, who 147 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 1: all was involved, and then have them with the indictments 148 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 1: with the trials that will ensue from that. Two other 149 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 1: questions I want to ask for you real quick, Hunter 150 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 1: Biden and what we are witnessing now with Hunter Biden, 151 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 1: the laptop, this investigation. If you if this was Donald Trump, 152 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 1: Don Junior, or Eric or any one of the Trump 153 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 1: family members, there would be wall to wall coverage. How 154 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:53,719 Speaker 1: has he not been I would say one arrested? And 155 00:10:53,760 --> 00:11:00,200 Speaker 1: how is the White House not concerned over bringing down 156 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:02,560 Speaker 1: this entire White House? I mean, there's no way to 157 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 1: separate Hunter Biden and the finance of what I referred 158 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 1: to as the Biden crime family from the president. None 159 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 1: of these deals exist without Joe Biden's involvement. None of 160 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 1: the money that was coming into Hunter Biden based on 161 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 1: his emails would have been possible. No one would have 162 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 1: been speaking to Hunter Biden on his own if it 163 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 1: wasn't for selling the access to his father when he 164 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 1: was the vice president. Now the president with these deals, 165 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 1: and yet the media is just continuing to act like 166 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 1: this is not a story. I believe they are worried 167 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:36,080 Speaker 1: finally that this could bring down this PRESIDENCYE your reaction, 168 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 1: I think you can see this. They're finally worried about 169 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 1: this because the New York Times in Washington posts admitting 170 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:48,559 Speaker 1: that the laptop and the emails are real and that 171 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 1: the connections are there. They obviously know that what had 172 00:11:57,200 --> 00:12:02,080 Speaker 1: been accused, what the Biden's had been accused ustav is accurate. 173 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 1: Because now as Durham is continuing this investigation, as he 174 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 1: has people that are indicted that are now talking, then 175 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 1: what they're doing is getting this information to pull it together. 176 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 1: But then it just shows you there were good actors 177 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 1: and bad actors in DOJ and FBI, and the people 178 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:24,719 Speaker 1: that are the good actors that are there that are 179 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 1: doing their job, they want to be able to rebuild 180 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:33,560 Speaker 1: that trust in the FBI and in the DOJ. So 181 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 1: this is going to be the time for them to 182 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 1: stand up and do their job and to rid the 183 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 1: DOJ and the FBI of these people that had politicized 184 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:53,680 Speaker 1: their job and we're putting an agenda in front of 185 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 1: what they were supposed to be doing. Lastly, I want 186 00:12:57,240 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 1: to ask you about this hot mic that catched caught 187 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 1: a school board member literally asking to set Senator Marcia 188 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 1: Blackburn on fire. This happened during a meeting of the 189 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 1: Metropolitan Nashville Board of Public Education this week and this 190 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 1: hot mic kind of board member pondering, can we just 191 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 1: go set Marcia Blackburn on fire? Your reaction to again 192 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 1: another liberal caught on a hot mic wanting you to 193 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 1: be caught on fire. And unfortunately we're seeing this be 194 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 1: a trend around the country when they don't like someone 195 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:33,080 Speaker 1: that's speaking, a parent, a concerned citizen, or you as 196 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 1: a senator. Well, and that is what they did, and 197 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 1: it was caught, it is being investigated by law enforcement. 198 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 1: We're going to leave all of that with Sam. But 199 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 1: to the broader point, it shows you how far the 200 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:54,680 Speaker 1: left is pushing to take control of classrooms, what kids 201 00:13:54,679 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 1: are learning, to disrupt our school system, to cause confusion, 202 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 1: to cause division. And I do not know this school 203 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 1: board member. They were upset with my line of questioning. 204 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 1: When I questioned Judge Jackson, who is nominated for the 205 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 1: Supreme Court. I did a line of questioning on CRT 206 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 1: and the woke kindergarten program that is taught as a 207 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 1: private school where she's on the school board. And I 208 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 1: asked about the Virginia Military Institute decision that Justice Ginsberg 209 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 1: wrote where she said there are enduring differences between male 210 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 1: and female, and Judge Jackson said she wasn't familiar with 211 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 1: that case and couldn't give me an opinion. So I 212 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 1: looked at her and I said, well, can you give 213 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 1: me the definition of woman? And she said I can't. 214 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 1: So this school board member was obviously upset with me 215 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 1: doing the job I'm elected to do, which is to 216 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 1: ask hard questions of people that are up for a 217 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 1: lifetime appointment on the US Supreme Court. Yeah, it's part 218 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 1: of the job. You did your job, and it's said 219 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 1: that people say they should set you on fire because 220 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 1: of its center. Appreciate your time. We'll talk to you again. 221 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 1: I'm sure real Stager keep it up. Thank you, ma'am. 222 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 1: This past week, I got a phone call from someone 223 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 1: that I do business with. Many of you know that 224 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 1: I own a gun range in a gun store and 225 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 1: we buy a lot of AMMO, and one of the 226 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 1: guys that buy AMO from we become colleagues, friends, and 227 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 1: during the AMMO shortage, you get to know people, and 228 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 1: you want to make sure that when you pay for AMO, 229 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 1: you're given it to good human beings. There's a lot 230 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 1: of people can buy from and you want to make 231 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 1: sure that you source it from people that are have 232 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 1: integrity and honesty. And that's actually how I met Ken 233 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 1: Cooper through another colleague, and he told me about this 234 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 1: story about his friend Andrew Slobosian and his grandparents getting 235 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 1: out of Ukraine. And he was telling me about what 236 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 1: they've been doing trying to help many of the people 237 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 1: that have had to flee Ukraine, getting them basic necessities. 238 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 1: You have well over a million people that have been 239 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 1: forced to flee Ukraine and they're in desperate need of 240 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 1: basic things. And then he started telling me about a 241 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 1: friend of his by the name of Andrew Slobosian and 242 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 1: how his grandparents were involved in what's happening in Ukraine, 243 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 1: and I said, we were talking about it, said we 244 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 1: got to tell this story because it's such a great 245 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 1: story and there's people that need help and we can 246 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 1: help them, and I'm going to bring them on now. 247 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 1: Ken Cooper is Kylie Gamine and his friend Andrew H. 248 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 1: Slovazian Andrew, Ken, I appreciate both of you guys coming 249 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 1: on in Ken this story. I want to I want 250 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:13,919 Speaker 1: to start with um. Really, I guess, I say, Andrew's 251 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 1: part of the story. You have a direct connection to Ukraine. 252 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 1: Specifically through family members, talk a little bit about what 253 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 1: you know, your connection and what's going on right now 254 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 1: in Ukraine. Absolutely, and thank you Ben for having me um. 255 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 1: So it's been a wild ride to say the least, 256 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 1: and we're certainly not seeing it first hand, but reliving 257 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 1: it through our family members. So as you mentioned, yes, 258 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 1: we do have a lot of family members, grandparents, uh, 259 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:51,160 Speaker 1: you know, uncle's, cousins, think and and others that still 260 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 1: live there, and it has been wild, to say the least, 261 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 1: just hearing from them, you know, from the time that 262 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 1: Russia first invaded Ukraine, to the bombs going off, you know, 263 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 1: my grandparents windows getting blown out from their apartment buildings 264 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 1: that they live in because of a bomb landing close by, 265 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 1: and then finally, I mean they're in their eighties, so 266 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 1: it took a while to convince them to you know, 267 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:21,719 Speaker 1: it's time to leave, and they finally did, and that 268 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 1: was a very harrowing journey for them. And what would 269 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:28,879 Speaker 1: normally take probably a day to make the trip, you know, 270 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 1: took multiple days, countless hours and just a lot of 271 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:38,160 Speaker 1: luck to get to get from Hikov where they lived, 272 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:41,359 Speaker 1: to all the way through Kiev, all the way to 273 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:46,200 Speaker 1: viv on the west side and then through the Polish borders. 274 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 1: So my family, I want to I just gotta step back. 275 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:52,440 Speaker 1: I gotta step back for a second. And I'm just 276 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 1: thinking about you guys getting phone calls from your eighty 277 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 1: year old grandparents who are in Ukraine. You're witnessing and 278 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 1: watching what's happening on TV. You're seeing that war is 279 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 1: about to break out. There's all these telegraphs coming from 280 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 1: Putin that this is going to go down. You know 281 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:08,199 Speaker 1: they're there. You obviously want them to leave, and I'm 282 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 1: sure they're saying, look, we're eighty, this is our home. 283 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 1: We're not leaving. How long did it take, you guys? 284 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 1: How many weeks were they in a in the war 285 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 1: going on before they finally decided, Okay, are you guys 286 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 1: convincing just to get out? Sure it was about two weeks. 287 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:30,639 Speaker 1: It was two weeks, and Hike, you've got hit pretty hard. 288 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 1: And I think the back and forth of Ukrainian army 289 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:37,719 Speaker 1: versus Russian army, you know, back and forth, fighting, bombs 290 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:41,199 Speaker 1: going off, until they finally said, listen, it's getting close. 291 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:44,440 Speaker 1: I mean they hear these bombs all the time. When 292 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 1: I was talking to them, on the phone. You hear 293 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:48,919 Speaker 1: the sirens going off in the background, and we do 294 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 1: it through Skype, you know, so I can see their 295 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:54,879 Speaker 1: worries things like that. But it took two weeks until 296 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 1: they said, you know what, we got to do this 297 00:19:57,680 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 1: or we're not going to make it out alive. So 298 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:02,680 Speaker 1: they finally you pulled the trigger and made the move 299 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 1: and everything worked out in the end. How hard was 300 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:08,359 Speaker 1: the evacuation process? I mean, at that point, you're in 301 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:11,200 Speaker 1: an active war zone, your grandparents are I should say, 302 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:14,199 Speaker 1: You're trying to figure out the logistics. It's not like 303 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:16,119 Speaker 1: you can just say, hey, go to the airport and 304 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:18,680 Speaker 1: catch this plane. I booked you on it. It one 305 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 1: twenty seven out of Terminal C. It doesn't work that 306 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 1: way at this point. So what do the logistics look 307 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:30,199 Speaker 1: like for them? Absolutely so. Luckily they were close to 308 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 1: a train station, which is more of like a local 309 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 1: train station. It's not one that runs, you know, through 310 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 1: different countries through Europe, So it was a matter of 311 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:43,680 Speaker 1: going there and standing in line. My grandma was telling 312 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 1: me the story of exactly what happened is the lines 313 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:50,119 Speaker 1: were astronomical, and you don't know. You go there not 314 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 1: knowing whether you're getting on a train or not. You're 315 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:56,159 Speaker 1: not buying tickets or anything like that. It's kind of 316 00:20:56,200 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 1: first come, first first, you know, first come first get 317 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:04,640 Speaker 1: and they stood in line. Somebody else said, hey, there's 318 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 1: going to be a train pulling up on another line 319 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:11,199 Speaker 1: that's going to be going through Kiev to leave, or 320 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 1: a town right outside of Leviev. And they said, listen, 321 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:16,880 Speaker 1: we know where that is. That's on the western side 322 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:20,640 Speaker 1: of Ukraine. We have to go there because otherwise we'd 323 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 1: be standing here for days. So they jumped a couple 324 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 1: of lines, and again, these are eighty year old women 325 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:31,439 Speaker 1: making this trek with nothing but a little backpack on 326 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:35,639 Speaker 1: because that's all you can take with you. Andrew, I 327 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:40,679 Speaker 1: can't imagine first you had to convince your grandparents to 328 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:43,200 Speaker 1: leave a country they didn't want to leave and leave 329 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 1: their home. But what was the conversation like when they're 330 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 1: even talking about what to take. I mean, there's got 331 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:51,200 Speaker 1: to be a grieving process there in a sense where 332 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 1: you know there's a good chance you're probably never gonna 333 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:57,639 Speaker 1: come back, and your stuff if you do come back, 334 00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 1: may not be there. It may be destroyed from the bombing. 335 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:04,119 Speaker 1: How do they even decide what to take. Yeah, I 336 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:06,640 Speaker 1: mean it was I think it was a last minute 337 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:11,160 Speaker 1: decision as far as what are my most valuable things, 338 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 1: and most of it is you know, identification, documents, passports, 339 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 1: you know, titles, deeds, things like that. I think that's 340 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:22,960 Speaker 1: pretty much the most the most important things that they 341 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:25,439 Speaker 1: took at. So everything then that you would put in 342 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 1: your safe, I think was thrown into a backpack. And 343 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 1: that's what most everybody's leaving with. Just enough to get 344 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 1: them by for a couple of days and that's it 345 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:37,920 Speaker 1: and documents. That's all they left with, with the clothes 346 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:41,439 Speaker 1: on their back and a little backpack. What about money 347 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 1: at that point, I mean they stayed for two weeks 348 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:47,440 Speaker 1: during the war. What happened with money? The banking, all 349 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 1: of those things that most people ask me questions about. 350 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 1: They asked that same question, what do you do with this? 351 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 1: How does this work? Sure? And I think they took 352 00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:59,879 Speaker 1: some I don't want to I don't know if I 353 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:02,919 Speaker 1: know the details as far as the exact amounts that 354 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 1: were taken or anything like that, but again enough to 355 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 1: get by what The one really positive thing that I've 356 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 1: heard from both of my grandparents coming through this process 357 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 1: is anybody that they offered money to. Everybody turned it down. 358 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 1: Um in western Ukraine where they stayed at night with 359 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:24,639 Speaker 1: a family that was hosting them, to you know, the 360 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 1: bus drivers, uh, to you know individuals in Poland that 361 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 1: we're helping them out. Everybody said, listen, you can pay 362 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:35,679 Speaker 1: it forward. You can you can buy some supplies for 363 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:38,160 Speaker 1: the next family that's going to be coming through our house. 364 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:41,439 Speaker 1: But they said, we would be you know, dishonored if 365 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 1: we were to take your money. So that was that 366 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:47,400 Speaker 1: was a really positive thing. A lot of individuals helping individuals. 367 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:52,400 Speaker 1: Let's talk about their homes that they left. Do they 368 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 1: know about what the status is of their property at 369 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 1: this point? Is there anyone there to even tontact or 370 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:01,679 Speaker 1: talk to neighbors, family friends to say, hey, is my 371 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:06,880 Speaker 1: home still standing? Not at this time. You know, they 372 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 1: had some close relatives and friends that still stayed back, 373 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,400 Speaker 1: but nobody that they've been in contact with. So at 374 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 1: this point it's you know, your guess is as good 375 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:19,679 Speaker 1: as mine if it's still standing. We just do not know. 376 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 1: Let's talk about the refugee aspect of this, the crisis. 377 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:31,360 Speaker 1: Well over a million people have fled Ukraine. Now your 378 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:34,199 Speaker 1: parents journey. How long of the journey was it and 379 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 1: where are they now? Sure? So my grandparents, so they 380 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:43,399 Speaker 1: made it. You know, that train trip it was pretty 381 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:47,919 Speaker 1: much an eighteen hour train trip with I mean it 382 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:49,720 Speaker 1: was packed, like they said, it was like pack like 383 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 1: sardine cans. You were shoulder to shoulder, no place to sit, 384 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 1: and if there were some seats, people were taking turns 385 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 1: sitting on them. Pretty much one bathroom per you know 386 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 1: train cart. So it was just packed, but people would 387 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:06,679 Speaker 1: do anything to get out. And then they stayed a 388 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:11,400 Speaker 1: couple of nights with a family in Viva, and then 389 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 1: took a bus ride which would normally be a couple 390 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:18,000 Speaker 1: hours through the Polish border, which I think took eighteen 391 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 1: hours on a bus to get from western Ukraine to 392 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 1: Warsaw where some of my family members. My mom flew 393 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 1: over from Detroit to Warsaw to meet them, just to 394 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,719 Speaker 1: make sure they get situated, you know, and then we 395 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 1: started working on getting them over to the United States, 396 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 1: which they had their visas, so everything you know, logistically 397 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 1: worked out well other than just buying a ticket taking 398 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 1: the COVID test, but again, something that would normally take 399 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 1: a couple hours was taken three quarters of a day. 400 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 1: They're now in the US, which I think is incredible 401 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 1: part of this story. And luckily they have family members 402 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:02,560 Speaker 1: like you guys are aiding and helping and supporting. When 403 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 1: you when you look back over the last several weeks 404 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 1: from a monetary standpoint, what did it cost to get 405 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:10,360 Speaker 1: them out, get them where they need to be, get 406 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:13,159 Speaker 1: them to America? I don't know if I would be 407 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 1: able to even put a number on that. Flights there, 408 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:21,640 Speaker 1: hotels there which were incredibly hard to find, import in Poland, 409 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:27,160 Speaker 1: flights back, you know, things that what's nice is like said, 410 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 1: in Poland and Warsaw, there were a lot of you know, 411 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:34,240 Speaker 1: individuals willing to help to help, and not just individuals 412 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:39,399 Speaker 1: but businesses. Cafes were you know, offering free to almost 413 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 1: you know, very very cheap food to refugees and things 414 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:48,920 Speaker 1: like that. I would say, monetarily overall, five to ten 415 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,919 Speaker 1: thousand amazing. And you think, and the reason why I 416 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 1: bring up that number is there's a lot of people 417 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 1: that are refugees that don't have five ten grand to 418 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:01,280 Speaker 1: be able to pull off what you guys were able 419 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,879 Speaker 1: to pull off for your family, Which brings me to 420 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 1: the other part. Of this conversation, Ken, I want to 421 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:10,440 Speaker 1: bring you in real quick because when you called me, 422 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:15,360 Speaker 1: you said, we're putting together basic needs and necessities and 423 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:18,920 Speaker 1: helping get them to people that need them, the refugees, 424 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 1: those that have fled Ukraine. And you're doing this just 425 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 1: because of this connection with your friend Andrew and this story. 426 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,160 Speaker 1: And I want to pick it up there. When did 427 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:33,600 Speaker 1: you realize this was something? And you deal with logistics, 428 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:36,119 Speaker 1: you guys ship from around the world and the business 429 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,920 Speaker 1: world that you're in, But when did you realize this 430 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:40,679 Speaker 1: is something we need to get involved in and we 431 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:45,239 Speaker 1: need to do it right now. Yeah, so you're exactly right. 432 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:48,119 Speaker 1: We're out to dinner, we're talking about the grandparents that 433 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 1: I've met, that I've stood on the sidelines with Andrew 434 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:54,720 Speaker 1: and his grandparents at my daughter's soccer game nine years old. 435 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 1: And you know, you go from the last time I 436 00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:59,680 Speaker 1: saw these people were cheering on nine year old girls 437 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:03,200 Speaker 1: play soccer, to now we're having dinner talking about how 438 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:06,119 Speaker 1: we need to hurry up and help get these folks 439 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:09,200 Speaker 1: out of Ukraine before things get bad, and giving them 440 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:12,360 Speaker 1: our support and hoping that things don't get bad. And 441 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 1: nobody knew I mean, this is a month ago. Nobody 442 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 1: knew that Putin was about to invade. And we pull 443 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 1: in our driveways and we find out, oh my gosh, 444 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 1: I mean literally twenty minutes ago. And we left the 445 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,359 Speaker 1: restaurant it was hey, we wish them the best. Then 446 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 1: we pull in our homes and we find out the 447 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:30,120 Speaker 1: invasion is starting and these people are most likely stuck 448 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 1: over there, and it's heartwrenching, and so you fast forwards. 449 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 1: Thing drags on a couple of weeks and a couple 450 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 1: of weeks ago, I'm talking to our freight forwarder, who 451 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 1: is our logistics international shipping agent who gets goods all 452 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 1: around the globe, and he tells me we're talking about 453 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 1: a load that I'm bringing in from Europe of goods 454 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 1: and he says, hey, I got to hop off this call. 455 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 1: This is about air freight that I'm sending to Ukraine tomorrow, 456 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 1: and I have to take this call because these are 457 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 1: urgent goods to help their refugees. And said, what kind 458 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,480 Speaker 1: of stuff are we talking about? He said, well, medical, 459 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 1: first aid, sanitation stuff to the refugee camps. You know, 460 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 1: we have to get it there because there's millions of 461 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 1: people coming across the border. Well, when he tells me 462 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:13,240 Speaker 1: the kind of stuff that he needs, I go, hey, 463 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 1: I got a friend I think might be able to 464 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 1: help with this. So I hang up the phone. I 465 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 1: call one of my best friends here in Finny, Ohio's 466 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 1: names Rich Kramer. He and his dad Paul run city 467 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 1: uniforms in Linen there. They're like a uniform and janitorial 468 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 1: and sanitation company. And he says, man, I've got like 469 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:31,480 Speaker 1: twelve twelve pallets of that stuff. I think I could 470 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 1: get it out of here like tomorrow if you're ready 471 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:36,239 Speaker 1: for it. So we organize the goods. We send it 472 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 1: to our freight forwarder, who has a nonprofit arm of 473 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 1: their business. It's related but obviously a separate entity. It's 474 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 1: a five or one C three and they do amazing 475 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 1: stuff all over the globe South Africa and Bosnia and 476 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:53,680 Speaker 1: Lebanon and Panama. They've got orphanages and hospitals and schools. 477 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,959 Speaker 1: And he said, then, this is what we do, the 478 00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 1: fact that we need. And by the way, this is 479 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 1: the moment where I say to people, this is why 480 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:04,520 Speaker 1: I have no doubt there's a God. And I say 481 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 1: that because I don't think that any of what you're 482 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 1: just describing with what you do and shipping and this 483 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 1: dinner and this relationship and knowing that you knew someone 484 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:16,480 Speaker 1: that had a large quantity of these goods that are 485 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,920 Speaker 1: desperately needed from from a company that just does something 486 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 1: that's so you know, basic, right. I mean, this isn't sexy, 487 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 1: but this is exactly what the people need, the basic 488 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,600 Speaker 1: things that you need in life, and to be able 489 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 1: to know how to even get it there. It's incredible 490 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 1: to me that all this is happening just from random 491 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 1: people talking. And I say, it's amazing, and I believe 492 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 1: there's a God because I don't think all this happens 493 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 1: by accidents. Then you're absolutely right because you me and 494 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 1: countless of other Americans, obviously a lot of them are 495 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:52,600 Speaker 1: going to be listening to your show. Everybody's heart goes out. 496 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 1: If you have a heart and you watch television, you 497 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 1: listen to the radio, you see what's going on, you go, 498 00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 1: I want to do something. I feel for those people. 499 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 1: It's aside from the politics. These are people fleeing their 500 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 1: homes to escape getting bombed or shot down. Right, They're 501 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,560 Speaker 1: leaving everything they have behind. How can I help? Is 502 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 1: the question? That comes to mind, and you feel powerless 503 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 1: generally because the world feels so big. But in this case, 504 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 1: you're right. God put people in each other's pathways. One 505 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:20,520 Speaker 1: guy knew how to get stuff where it needs to go. 506 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 1: Another guy knew somebody else who had the right stuff. 507 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 1: We make the connection and the project has gone from there, 508 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 1: and so let's talk about this stuff. Let's talk about 509 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 1: the stuff real quick. When you say this is the 510 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 1: basic things needed to explain how basic these things are 511 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:39,720 Speaker 1: that they people desperately need. Yeah, so we'll give them 512 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 1: a website they can hop too to see the specifics, 513 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 1: but in general, we're talking about hygiene supplies. So it's soap, shampoo, lotion, 514 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:51,400 Speaker 1: Q tips, band aids, antiseptic whites, just things that it 515 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:55,080 Speaker 1: takes people to get toothbrush, toothpaste through their day to 516 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 1: day life. Because, like Andrew said, when is eighty year 517 00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,840 Speaker 1: old grandma grabs her stuff, she grabbed the documents that 518 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,640 Speaker 1: prove who she is so that she can maybe someday 519 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 1: get back to the home that she left. And that's it. 520 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:09,280 Speaker 1: That's all they have. Yeah. One of the things I 521 00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:11,400 Speaker 1: think a lot of people don't understand. And Andrew, you 522 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:14,760 Speaker 1: can probably talk to this real quick is they weren't 523 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 1: allowing you to bring luggage while traveling when you were 524 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 1: trying to get out of Ukraine. Many people I've talked 525 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:24,200 Speaker 1: to said they left their luggage at the bus stops 526 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:26,880 Speaker 1: or the train stops because they said, no luggage you 527 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,440 Speaker 1: could take a back like imagine getting on a flight 528 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 1: leaving your home country and all you can take is 529 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:35,200 Speaker 1: your carry on because they said, we just don't have 530 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 1: the room for a suitcase with personal belongings outside of 531 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 1: the paperwork you described, and that's probably what your grandparents 532 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:48,280 Speaker 1: dealt with as well. Yeah, I mean there were so 533 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:52,480 Speaker 1: many seen pictures and you know, first see and testimonials 534 00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:57,320 Speaker 1: of just things, just bags, luggages, just left you at 535 00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:00,840 Speaker 1: the train station, at the bus stations because every time 536 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 1: they know somebody wants to take a big piece of luggage, 537 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,280 Speaker 1: that could be a person sitting in that spot. So 538 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 1: no luggage, just a very very small carry on size bag. Quickly, guys, 539 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:15,840 Speaker 1: tell people where they can go to help if you 540 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,480 Speaker 1: want to make a donation and you want to help 541 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 1: pay for the shipping costs, because this is one of 542 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:22,560 Speaker 1: the things I think it's so neat about what you 543 00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:25,800 Speaker 1: guys are doing is This is really simple. There's goods 544 00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:28,760 Speaker 1: that are already there and we just need to help 545 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:32,360 Speaker 1: raise the money through this nonprofit to send the stuff 546 00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 1: that people need. So tell people where they can go, 547 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 1: what website, and how they can get involved. And so 548 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,959 Speaker 1: folks go to Buffalo Cartridge dot com. That's our business 549 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:45,160 Speaker 1: that does the ammunition you're referring to earlier. If they 550 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 1: go to Buffalo Cartridge dot com and scroll down to 551 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:50,000 Speaker 1: the middle of the page, they'll see project help Now 552 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:52,400 Speaker 1: and you can see a complete overview of the project. 553 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 1: But there is a link to Dtcare and that's the 554 00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:59,120 Speaker 1: nonprofit that's linked to the logistics company that's getting this 555 00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,640 Speaker 1: stuff where it needs to go and getting it distributed 556 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:03,800 Speaker 1: on the ground. And then you're one hundred percent right. 557 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,720 Speaker 1: We have goods flowing in from all over the country. 558 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:09,439 Speaker 1: What we need help with from your listeners right now 559 00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:11,759 Speaker 1: is for people who can help pay for the air 560 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:13,840 Speaker 1: freight to get it where it needs to go. The 561 00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:16,799 Speaker 1: nonprofit is doing their best, they're stretching their resources as 562 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,800 Speaker 1: far as they can, but there are millions of people 563 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 1: who need these goods, and so if you go to 564 00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:25,399 Speaker 1: our website, Buffalo cartridge dot com go to Project help Now, 565 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:27,840 Speaker 1: or if you go directly to the nonprofit, which is 566 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:32,560 Speaker 1: dtcare dot org forward slash donate. I don't care if 567 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:35,799 Speaker 1: it ten dollars, twenty dollars, whatever you can spare. God 568 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,840 Speaker 1: bless you because you are directly paying for goods to 569 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:41,359 Speaker 1: get to people who left their homes behind, and we're 570 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:44,239 Speaker 1: providing what they need to continue on. You know, one 571 00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,320 Speaker 1: of the reasons why I wanted to have you guys 572 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:51,640 Speaker 1: on tonight is because this is all being done by people. 573 00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:54,879 Speaker 1: They're volunteering their time, just like you, and that's why 574 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:58,600 Speaker 1: I love it. This is not some big, grand corporate operation. 575 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:01,400 Speaker 1: This is people that are getting pause with their daily 576 00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:04,120 Speaker 1: lives and their work what you guys do with Ammo 577 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:06,839 Speaker 1: every day to add this to your website to help 578 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,160 Speaker 1: get the goods over there needed because of a personal 579 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:14,000 Speaker 1: connection between you and Andrew. And that's why I love this. 580 00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,480 Speaker 1: Because you want to talk about shoes shoes stringing it. 581 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:19,640 Speaker 1: This is shoestringing it and I think it's so great. 582 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:22,839 Speaker 1: So Andrew, I'm so happy that you've gotten your grandparents 583 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:25,840 Speaker 1: here to the US. It's part of the miracle of 584 00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:28,480 Speaker 1: this story that they're one alive until you got them here. 585 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:32,040 Speaker 1: And Ken, thank you for hitting pause with your work 586 00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:35,880 Speaker 1: life to spend the time to do this, and again 587 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,799 Speaker 1: one more time for people that are listening tonight. The 588 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,759 Speaker 1: two websites you can go to if you want to 589 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:45,680 Speaker 1: make a donation and help so it's Buffalo Cartridge dot 590 00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:48,680 Speaker 1: com and then click the link to Project Now, or 591 00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,480 Speaker 1: you can go directly to the nonprofit website, which is 592 00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:57,720 Speaker 1: dtcare dot org forward slash donate. There you go. All right, guys, Andrew, 593 00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:01,520 Speaker 1: thank you for coming on. 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