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Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 1: Home of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to the Drive. I'm Dale Lolly here with Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: and Matt it is Armageddon. Armageddon done some local radio

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Speaker 1: in the last couple of days, and oh my god,

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Speaker 1: Holy smokes, like this isn't this what? At least if

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Speaker 1: you've been listening to this show, we've been telling you

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Speaker 1: this is how it's gonna go. They have any attention

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Speaker 1: to this organization for the last thirty years, you know,

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Speaker 1: this is how it's gonna go. The Steelers have lost

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Speaker 1: nobody that they didn't expect you could lose. You can

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Speaker 1: make the argument to Tyson and Lulu was a bit

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Speaker 1: of a surprise outside of that, but this was all expected.

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Speaker 1: It's when Juju falls, it's not gonna be any different either,

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Speaker 1: you know, right, And maybe it's Oh my god, I

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Speaker 1: can't believe these guys all left in a two day period.

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Speaker 1: That's how the league works. I mean, that's they're good players,

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Speaker 1: you know, right, I mean Juju an Hour are still

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Speaker 1: out there. You know, they're they're gonna be signed in

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Speaker 1: the next day or two. I'm sure. Um, you know,

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Speaker 1: back to Lulu, I'm sure we'll get into all the specifics.

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Speaker 1: But the Jags had the most cap money in the league.

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Speaker 1: If they want them, they're not gonna pay the same

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Speaker 1: price that you are, right. You know, people looked at

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Speaker 1: the price. It was only to two years and six million.

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Speaker 1: I was fully guaranteed, first of all for thirty four

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Speaker 1: year old player. Right, that's sort of a rotational guy,

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Speaker 1: you know, snaps last year. I mean personally, I was

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Speaker 1: trying to figure out a way to keep Filer. I

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Speaker 1: would have loved that when the last time we got together.

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Speaker 1: And if you saw his deal, yeah, right, I mean,

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Speaker 1: if someone's gonna make you a big offer in the

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Speaker 1: first day of free agen, so you can take it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and st yours were in that position next year, maybe

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Speaker 1: they will be for their own guys or whatever. But

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Speaker 1: so be it that you knew this was coming. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's it's there's no surprise here. Um.

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Speaker 1: You know, even Evince Vince Williams being released, we talked

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Speaker 1: about this. This was actually pleasantly surprised if they got

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Speaker 1: Sutton done as quickly as they did, right, I thought

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Speaker 1: that I thought he might linger and I'd be nervous

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Speaker 1: about that, you know. I mean, I think they've done

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Speaker 1: fine their positions. As I put out, I tweeted this yesterday,

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Speaker 1: this will be my twenty ninth year covering the Steelers.

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Speaker 1: This is the start of it. Okay, I've covered three

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Speaker 1: losing seasons, one for decade. This is how they lost

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Speaker 1: your starting quarterback for the whole Well, no, that was

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Speaker 1: they went eight and eighty. Oh that's what I mean. Like,

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Speaker 1: I mean one of those twenty nine years. I mean,

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Speaker 1: there's been some bad years that just are out of

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Speaker 1: your hands. Cordell Stewart and Ken Graham and you know,

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Speaker 1: things like that. This is how they do business, folks.

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Speaker 1: If you can't figure that out, you can't be a

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Speaker 1: Steeler fan and look at this and somehow be surprised.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, I can't believe they're doing you know,

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Speaker 1: they've they've lost all these guys. If you just moved

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Speaker 1: here and you became a Steeler fan this year and

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Speaker 1: we're in a football fan, you're off the hook. Or

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Speaker 1: if you're a young kid and you this is you're

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Speaker 1: new to all this, you're off the hook. But if

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Speaker 1: you've been watching games for the last couple of years,

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Speaker 1: if not the last fifty years. You should know these things.

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Speaker 1: I mean people on on d K Pittsburgh Sports dot com.

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Speaker 1: And I don't want to pick on anybody, but there

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Speaker 1: was like one poster who said, oh my god, you

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Speaker 1: know that's all the Steelers are losing all these guys

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Speaker 1: and they have no plan. B Holy free free agency

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Speaker 1: just started down at four o'clock today. How about we

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Speaker 1: sitting wait a few days before we make these grand this,

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Speaker 1: you know, give it a week? How about two days? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Give it up. Yeah, let's see what happened. What the

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Speaker 1: team looks like on draft day. There hasn't even been

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Speaker 1: a draft yet. They're not playing this week. Now. It's

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Speaker 1: mind boggling to me. I mean this year more than ever,

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Speaker 1: So everyone's doom and gloom and this is the end,

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Speaker 1: and boy, this is gonna be a four and twelve

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Speaker 1: Bend here too long? You're wrong. They show a year

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Speaker 1: it's amazing to me. Um, you know, you know another jeez,

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Speaker 1: might use they may find, they may bring back Vince,

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Speaker 1: they may bring back Georgia's Pro day today and Dylan

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Speaker 1: Moses ran a four or five seven and a four

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Speaker 1: or six o four. Could he be a Steeler? Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: We've had Monty Rice, I guess yeah, he's a guy

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Speaker 1: third fourth round super time. Right, all right, they're gonna

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Speaker 1: do other things. They're just not gonna buy at this rate.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's silly to people, Oh my god, look

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Speaker 1: what Belichick's door. He just so what so what? It

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Speaker 1: doesn't matter. It still is the worst roster in the league.

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Speaker 1: And some years, you know, they'll be like, boy, the

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Speaker 1: rest of the divisions and them usually the Browns are

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Speaker 1: doing all kinds of crazy great things. How are we

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Speaker 1: going to compete with them? I mean I heard something

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Speaker 1: the other day too. The eight teams that have done

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Speaker 1: made the least moves. And this was as of like

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Speaker 1: Patriots had done and they're, oh my god, I can't believe. Okay,

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Speaker 1: here's what they've signed. Can Newton at quarterback, brought him back,

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Speaker 1: Nelson Aguilar and Kendrick Borne at wide receiver. Yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: gonna fix their wide receiver problems. You could have got

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Speaker 1: year they're paying Nelson Aguilar and Kendrick Borne combined fifty

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Speaker 1: forty eight point five million dollars. Right, they wouldn't see

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Speaker 1: a snap here Kendrick Born. You have Kendrick Born twenty

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Speaker 1: two and a half million dollars over three years. I

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Speaker 1: thought that was one of the worst signs of the league.

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Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? He's a third receiver on a

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Speaker 1: good day on his best day, he's the number three.

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Speaker 1: He's the number four receiver on this on the Steelers

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Speaker 1: all day long, all day long, even when Jujue leaves. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they gave Nelson Aguilar thirteen million dollars a year. I

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Speaker 1: I can't believe Nelson Aguilar has gone right, No, we

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Speaker 1: They couldn't wait to get that guy out of town.

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Speaker 1: Their receivers are still not good and there's yeah, their

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Speaker 1: not wait to get rid of Nelson Agilar. Couldn't wait

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Speaker 1: Johnny Smith. I mean, that's a ridiculous tight end investment. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: you've got almost a hundred million dollars tied up in

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Speaker 1: two tight ends. I like that. I love both players,

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Speaker 1: like they're both talented and they're be in the field

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Speaker 1: those guys will be released in two years. Oh, that's

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Speaker 1: very possible. I mean there. I mean I think Austin

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Speaker 1: and it's gonna be hard to maintain that salary. You

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Speaker 1: can't have five million dollars a year tied up in

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Speaker 1: your tight end room. Tight end room. Yeah, that's insane.

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Speaker 1: canna do that trade for Travis Kelsey. I would say

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Speaker 1: If you're gonna do that, we're gonna get a wide

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Speaker 1: you've got a bunch of wide outs on their first

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Speaker 1: Patriots don't. Okay, you have two tight you know you

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Speaker 1: have a Kiddle Kelsey driven offense. I can buy that

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Speaker 1: big picture thoughts on the Patriots. Well, huge picture thoughts

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Speaker 1: are we we bashed Belichick the GM rightfully so, but

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Speaker 1: office is built in two half. There's a college half

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Speaker 1: of the pro half. Belichick throughout his career and I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna get the sword of the benefit of doubt in

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Speaker 1: this last week is good at watching pro tape and

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Speaker 1: saying I can do this with my team. Sure stinks

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Speaker 1: at college evaluation. And that's why you get in a

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Speaker 1: record is in years in which Tom Brady is not

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Speaker 1: his main starting quarterback. There's not many of them, but

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Speaker 1: there were seven and nine in Brown's years, right, more

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Speaker 1: I can buy that. Fifty nine and sixty nine. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, you're not gonna convince me that he's not

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Speaker 1: the best coach I've ever seen. Though. Let's wait and

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Speaker 1: see what he's This is Belichick, the GM doing all

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Speaker 1: this crap. We haven't even gotten through it all yet.

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Speaker 1: I know, I know Trent Brown. Okay, you went out

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Speaker 1: and you got Truck. I don't have a problem with that.

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Speaker 1: of Marcus kN Ted Carriss one year, four million dollars.

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Speaker 1: That just happened today, right, Ted Carriss, four million dollars

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Speaker 1: for Ted Carress' And he's just a guy, just a

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Speaker 1: guy Dietrich Wise, a defensive end four years thirty million dollars.

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Speaker 1: to four years thirty billion dollars. Like when day one

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Speaker 1: passed on my podcast, I said, does anyone think, like,

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Speaker 1: are the Bills worried? Oh? No, the Patriots are coming

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Speaker 1: after BEHINDI million dollars or over Devon Gutshaw two years

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Speaker 1: be on the field when they play the Bills. No,

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Speaker 1: absolutely true. Okay, Henry Anderson got two years, seven million dollars.

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Speaker 1: who are the contenders that are running away with this thing?

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Speaker 1: I mean, who's who? Bills look good, but they haven't

423
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Speaker 1: done much. Who in the a f C has gotten

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Speaker 1: markedly better? Like yeah, you know, it's not like Indie

425
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Speaker 1: signed five stuff cults have all their cults are sitting

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Speaker 1: on all this money and they're only offseason moved thus far.

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Speaker 1: Was this was the trade for Carson Wentz. The only

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Speaker 1: thing that they've done. They're the one team that has

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Speaker 1: a smart team, all kinds of cap space and they've

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Speaker 1: spent none of it because they're gonna get bargains. They're

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Speaker 1: gonna get bargains. Yeah. Yeah, many people aren't called it,

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Speaker 1: calling the Colts saying, hey, you got more. I'm only

433
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Speaker 1: getting a million million around the league offers. Won't you

434
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Speaker 1: give me one point five because you have it? Okay?

435
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Speaker 1: That's how they get just in Houston, Like you know

436
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Speaker 1: what I mean, that's that's so this I kind looks

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Speaker 1: noticeably worse to me. They just cut of how do

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Speaker 1: they Why do they cut a Dory Jackson? Why? I

439
00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:30,280
Speaker 1: don't like that makes that makes no sense. I don't

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Speaker 1: understand that at all. And the offense is losing guys,

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Speaker 1: which you knew was coming, but I mean, your first

442
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Speaker 1: round pick last year, Isaiah Wilson's gone, You first round

443
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Speaker 1: pick a little year before that, Door Jackson's gone. Like,

444
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Speaker 1: I don't think they're going in the right direction. No,

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Speaker 1: I mean I just look around the league and I'm like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I don't see where all these you know, the Raiders,

447
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Speaker 1: all they got John Brown, Jonik and Doc Way and

448
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Speaker 1: Nicholas to Morrow. Yeah, but they cut two of their

449
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Speaker 1: best offensive line all of a sudden. Their offensive line

450
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Speaker 1: is awful, right, that was the strength of their team,

451
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Speaker 1: and they had a good thing going, and they got

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Speaker 1: rid of the only good thing they have. They actually

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Speaker 1: took on additional cap space, lost money by cutting releasing

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Speaker 1: Rodney Hudson. I wouldn't see he design him, by the way,

455
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Speaker 1: that's total side note. I love Rodney Hudson. I don't

456
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Speaker 1: understand that move at all. He'd be a fantastic player

457
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Speaker 1: Seattle Pits. I mean, so many teams, Um, I don't

458
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Speaker 1: understand what that. And that's that leads me to my

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Speaker 1: next point, Like people, how those the Steelers, how could

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Speaker 1: they possibly figure out who's going to replace uh Tyson

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Speaker 1: and Lulu. The one move that we thought, okay, maybe

462
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Speaker 1: they resigned Tyson Luis. There are fifteen guys out there

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Speaker 1: right now that are in the same tier. They are

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Speaker 1: in the same tier that you can bring in who

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Speaker 1: are younger. They are younger, they're they're proven. Yeah, they're

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Speaker 1: not going to Pro Bowls, but they're fine. And one

467
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Speaker 1: of the one of the things I mentioned the other

468
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Speaker 1: day to you that I was looking at up seven

469
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Speaker 1: round mock draft. I can't remember where it was at now,

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Speaker 1: and they had the Steelers taking three defensive linemen because well,

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Speaker 1: they're their defensive lines getting up in age. Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was if you if you brought Tyson a lu

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Speaker 1: Lu back. Now you didn't, so now you can get

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Speaker 1: younger if you want. You know, by the way, they

475
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Speaker 1: didn't have a starting nose tackle. They went into the draft.

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Speaker 1: They drafted Javonne Hargrave. He became their starting nose tackle

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Speaker 1: for the next four years. That's not hard to find.

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Speaker 1: Last year, at this time, the big question for everybody was, well,

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Speaker 1: who's replacing Jawan Hargrave in the Steelers defense? And said, well,

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Speaker 1: Tyson Lulu, well, I don't know if he can play

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Speaker 1: that position. What they're asking the nose tackle to do now.

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Speaker 1: They're they're not looking for Casey Hampton here, No, No,

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Speaker 1: they absolutely aren't. They want a big body that's top

484
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Speaker 1: that can rotate with the other guys they're gonna they

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Speaker 1: usually have two of those guys in the field most

486
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Speaker 1: SAPs anyway, you know, And you want somebody right now, yeah, no,

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Speaker 1: no doubt about it. I don't think that. I don't

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Speaker 1: think any of the three young guys that are on

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Speaker 1: their roster are the answer there. But that doesn't mean

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Speaker 1: that you can't go get somebody. No, No, there will

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Speaker 1: be guys. There's no doubt about the way I look

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Speaker 1: at it, though, I don't look at it as the

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Speaker 1: starting nose. I look at it as the third d tackle. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And I think that's the way people look at it.

495
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Speaker 1: And they don't have to look exactly like to it

496
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Speaker 1: and Hayward and be six six and be able to

497
00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:07,879
Speaker 1: run like gazelles. But they need to be able to

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Speaker 1: rotate with those guys and hold their own whenever they're

499
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Speaker 1: in they're oaky front their three four, Yeah, but they

500
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:15,800
Speaker 1: don't have to be, you know, a big kick. Nobody

501
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:17,720
Speaker 1: runs the ball anymore, no, And if they do, fine,

502
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:20,080
Speaker 1: you beg them to. Yeah, and why is Vince Williams

503
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Speaker 1: on the team anymore? Yeah? I mean it's the whole

504
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:28,080
Speaker 1: thing to me is again, you knew this was coming.

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Speaker 1: If you know something's coming, It's like if you if

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Speaker 1: you get laid off from your job, but they tell

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Speaker 1: you six months ahead of time, Hey, six months from now,

508
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:41,520
Speaker 1: we're gonna lay off. And you're in the building every

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Speaker 1: day and you see they're not making any money and

510
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Speaker 1: everyone else is getting laid off, and like, are you

511
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Speaker 1: suddenly when they lay you off? Going? I can't believe

512
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Speaker 1: they laid me off? What am I gonna do? I

513
00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 1: wasn't shocked when I was let go of the Browns.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you make contingency plans, you have a plan

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Speaker 1: in place. Okay, I'm gonna get laid off in six months,

516
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna start calling around other people and see, Okay,

517
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 1: what can I do about this? The Steelers knew this

518
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Speaker 1: was coming a year ago. That's why they drafted Chase Claypool.

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Speaker 1: That's why they drafted Alex high Smith. They knew they

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Speaker 1: were going to lose Bud Dupree and Juju Smith Schuster. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I mean they had to have awful years to not

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Speaker 1: to be even considered to come back. I mean they

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Speaker 1: have to play for nothing. I mean, that's what you want.

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Speaker 1: You develop. These players are good, okay, and that's what's

525
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Speaker 1: nice about next year. Next year you might keep those guys, right,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean, because you'll have money in

527
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:31,879
Speaker 1: your quarterback, won't need to eat up as much and

528
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,240
Speaker 1: all those things. But you knew that this was the

529
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Speaker 1: hand your doubt. But they're not playing this week. You

530
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Speaker 1: know they still have They're still gonna be five moves

531
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Speaker 1: a game for six months, right right, right, it's half

532
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,639
Speaker 1: a year away. Lots of stuff will happen. Lots of

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Speaker 1: stuff will happen. What's the over under on how many

534
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Speaker 1: guys they'll sign from outside the organization? Four or five?

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Speaker 1: Probably at at least three, at least at least three

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Speaker 1: d lineman, maybe a running back. Right then, maybe you

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Speaker 1: sound you know, but it's gonna be the right deals. Yeah,

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00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:05,880
Speaker 1: you're not gonna you know, it does you no good.

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00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 1: We just went through all those Patriots signings. Which one

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Speaker 1: of those are you jealous of? You're like, boy, I

541
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Speaker 1: really really wish they would have Steelers have made that

542
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:19,639
Speaker 1: exact same. Well, I wish Nelson the Jaguars got Carlos

543
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:22,199
Speaker 1: said Jamal Agnew Philip Dors said, I didn't even know

544
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Speaker 1: he was still playing. Marvin Jones, Cam Robinson, Tyler Shatley,

545
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Speaker 1: Dwayne Smoot, Tyson and Leuilla Gee hub Ward, Malcolm Brown,

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Speaker 1: Roy Robertson, Harris Sidney Jones, check Griffin, Rudy Ford for

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Speaker 1: Sean Ray Shawn Jenkins. That's that's just that's the definition

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Speaker 1: of signing a bunch of Jags. Griffin will be a

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Speaker 1: starting corner opposite Henderson form. Okay, um, what's his face?

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00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 1: The d tackle they signed from the Bears is a

551
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 1: pretty good player, rotational, good dude. They kept Cam Robinson,

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Speaker 1: who's their own. Marvin Jones is a third receiver. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but we're not talking about world beaters here, you know

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Speaker 1: you're talking. I mean, most of those names aren't on

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00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:08,360
Speaker 1: the field that often. Trevor Lawrence hasn't gone wha look

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Speaker 1: at that? Yeah right, sign Tyler's back right right there.

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00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:15,639
Speaker 1: You have to look up Tyler Shllley on the Google

558
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 1: to find out who the heck he was. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I know they didn't give Carlos Hide much, but they

560
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 1: could have called Carlos Hide two months from now and

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Speaker 1: call god him the same with most of those guys.

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Speaker 1: You know, they give him six six million over two years, right,

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00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:28,439
Speaker 1: I mean it's not a ton of money, but but

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Speaker 1: he's a thirty two year old running back state connection

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Speaker 1: with you know, you could have called him a month

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Speaker 1: from now, he's gonna be he's gonna be available, and

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00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 1: most of those names is probably the same way. Good

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00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 1: thing they spent the money. Yeah, it's odd. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, anything that you're buying now

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Speaker 1: is you're you're paying, you're paying a dollar fifty dollars.

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Speaker 1: Two weeks from now, you're spending seventy five cents per dollar. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, it's totally different. You're it's a bargain as

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Speaker 1: opposed to overpaying, and that's gonna happen soon. That might

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Speaker 1: start happening tomorrow ish, you know. Um. The one part

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Speaker 1: the position it's interesting to me is all the edge guys,

576
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 1: because there was nine or ten good ones, they got

577
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 1: scooped up quick. The a lot of the good receivers

578
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 1: are still out there. The edge guys got scooped up quick,

579
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Speaker 1: and they've got big contracts, including dupri And to me,

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00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 1: that just kind of shows. We don't love this edge

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00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 1: class of rookies. Um, we love all the receivers that

582
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Speaker 1: are out there, and edges are tough, tough position to

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Speaker 1: go get. Yeah, so I don't think the Steelers need one.

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Speaker 1: They're in a good position not to. Yeah. Absolutely, but

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Speaker 1: we're gonna take a break. He is Matt Williamson. I'm

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Speaker 1: Dale LOLLI. You're listening to the Drive here on Steelers

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Speaker 1: Nation Radio. We want to thank Jacob Bregg for keeping

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Speaker 1: us on the air here throughout the show, and we

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