1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Ron Anian, it's not cables and levers and mechanical things anymore. 2 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 1: Your conditioning has become such an electronic component, impart and 3 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:10,480 Speaker 1: parcel of the vehicle that you've got to look at everything. 4 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: The Car Doctor about a good running diesel in that 5 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:23,640 Speaker 1: vehicle if you can afford the swap and do the swap. Yeah, 6 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 1: believe it or not, I like that probably best of all, 7 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 1: Welcome to the radio home of Ron Andanian, the Car Doctor. 8 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 1: Since this is where car owners the world overturned to 9 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:38,880 Speaker 1: for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. If your mechanics 10 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:41,519 Speaker 1: giving you a busy signal, pick up the phone and 11 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:44,879 Speaker 1: call in. The garage doors are open, but I am 12 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:48,880 Speaker 1: here to take your falls at eight five and now 13 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 1: he running. What would a show about how to deal 14 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 1: with a dealer look like? Hello, and welcome Ron and 15 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 1: any in the Car Doctor. The phone number is eight 16 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:08,320 Speaker 1: five zero zo zero eight five five zero nine zero zero. 17 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 1: Here to take your calls and answer your questions. More 18 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 1: information about this radio show available at Car Doctor show 19 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 1: dot com. You'll find all sorts of things they were, 20 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:19,479 Speaker 1: including an affiliate list via tune in dot com. Podcast 21 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:23,039 Speaker 1: subscription availability at iHeart dot com and iTunes dot com 22 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 1: and if you need me during the week, it's Ron 23 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 1: at Car Doctor Show dot com. What would a show 24 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 1: about how to deal with a dealer look like? For 25 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 1: that matter, what would a show about how to deal 26 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 1: with your auto repair shop look like? And would you 27 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:44,400 Speaker 1: want to hear that? I'm gonna think maybe had a 28 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:47,040 Speaker 1: very good customer this week. She had to send her 29 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 1: son back to the Kia dealer for an oil change 30 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 1: because he's his day off didn't coordinate with our availability, 31 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 1: and she had no choice. He has limited access to 32 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 1: time for his because of his job. He works all 33 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 1: kinds of crazy hours. So he went into the Kia 34 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 1: dealer to get an oil change. It's an oil change. 35 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 1: How bad could they do this incorrectly? How wrong could 36 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 1: it be? How much of a beaten could the checkbook 37 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 1: possibly take? It's a car, it's only got twenty nine 38 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 1: thousand miles on it. What could go wrong? Well, he 39 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 1: came out with an oil change, and he came out 40 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 1: with an estimate for a thirty thousand mile service of 41 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 1: about five and fifty dollars. And when Kathy called me 42 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 1: up to go over this with me, I said, how 43 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 1: can that be? How can we do five fifty dollars 44 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 1: worth of service to a car? The car is a 45 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 1: year old and it's got thirty thousand miles on it. 46 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:50,119 Speaker 1: And let's see, the cabin filter had been done four 47 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 1: thousand miles prior, the tires had just been rotated. They 48 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 1: just did the oil change. Those are the three big 49 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:58,080 Speaker 1: things on the thirty case service. The only thing really 50 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:01,959 Speaker 1: left was Kia aims that they're coolant, and I believe 51 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 1: this to be true. Is non long life. So you're 52 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:07,239 Speaker 1: gonna change it every well, I don't know if you 53 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 1: would do it every thirty thousand miles, I would test 54 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:12,679 Speaker 1: the system. Does the system test good? In Kyle's case, 55 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 1: the cool and tested good? So why are we changing it? 56 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 1: Because isn't it every two years or thirty thousand miles? 57 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:21,679 Speaker 1: But it's also conditioned derivative And then how did it 58 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:23,800 Speaker 1: get to be five fifty dollars When you when you 59 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 1: look up and you start comparing it to what's recommended 60 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:32,959 Speaker 1: by manufacturer. Three quarters of the list is check check, check, 61 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 1: check check. So it's about an hour, it's about an 62 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 1: hour shop time and some cooling, and you know, at 63 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 1: best it's a three, three and fifty dollars service five 64 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 1: fifty dollars with the service from and I said to Cathy, 65 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 1: here's what this has to look like. And here's how 66 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 1: you deal with the dealership, and here's how you deal 67 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 1: with the repair shop. Hold their feet to the fire. 68 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 1: Get out the owner's manual. What is the owner's manual? 69 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 1: Call for the owner's manual is where it starts. I'm 70 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 1: not saying that's where it ends, but that's where it starts. 71 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 1: That's where you at the base point of information. The 72 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 1: manufacturer says you need to do the following things to 73 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 1: the car at this mileage, and then you'll find out okay. 74 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 1: In addition to that, because you live in southern California, 75 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 1: or you live in the heat of Florida, or you 76 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 1: live in the cold of Minnesota, or you live in 77 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 1: the dampness of New England, these particular services are recommended 78 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 1: for the life of the car, and then maybe we'll 79 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 1: get up to a five repair because of the additions 80 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:33,919 Speaker 1: that are added to it. But not on a blind spot. 81 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 1: So part of dealing with a dealer or dealing with 82 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 1: an independent repair shop, you know what that show would 83 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:44,679 Speaker 1: look like. Neither one of you have to have preconceived notions. 84 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 1: Everybody's gotta walk in there with an open mind, but 85 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:49,840 Speaker 1: every everybody's got to understand what we're here for. We're 86 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 1: here to maintain the car, not by the guy behind 87 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 1: the counter lawn furniture based on commission of what he sells, 88 00:04:55,760 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: and that does happen by the same token. Not every 89 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 1: dealership is like that. I had lunched this week with 90 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 1: a gentleman who I think probably runs one of the 91 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 1: better Toyota dealerships in the country, and he knows who 92 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 1: he is, and we talked about this, and he explained 93 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:14,919 Speaker 1: to me why that doesn't work at his dealership, and 94 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 1: why they don't do that at his dealership, and why 95 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:22,040 Speaker 1: his customers his priority concerned because he knows making somebody happy, 96 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:25,039 Speaker 1: everybody happy, gets them to come back and not only 97 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:27,280 Speaker 1: service the car, but gets them to buy another car. 98 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 1: And there's no question about it. He had an interesting 99 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:32,719 Speaker 1: comment too. I love talking to to he. He made 100 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 1: a comment to me. He says, you gotta wonder when 101 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 1: you have a dealership. When you walk in the door, 102 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 1: the floors are more marble, the ceiling is tiled, and 103 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:46,280 Speaker 1: like you're standing in an Italian restaurant. And he said, um, 104 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 1: he said, you wonder what all that costs and you 105 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 1: wonder what the customer thinks if they're paying for it 106 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 1: or not. And I just kind of looked at him 107 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:54,360 Speaker 1: and I went and he said, yeah, he goes. You know, 108 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 1: It's it's one thing to make an impression, it's a one. 109 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:58,280 Speaker 1: It's another thing to make it look like you're standing 110 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:00,679 Speaker 1: in the middle of the taj Ma hall and uh 111 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 1: what is that? What does that repair going to really cost? 112 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 1: And who is it paying? So just some interesting points. 113 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:07,839 Speaker 1: So maybe we'll do a show one day on you know, 114 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 1: how to deal with the dealer and what does that 115 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 1: look like and how to catch them and hold their 116 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 1: feet to the fire. And we'll say it as how 117 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 1: to deal with the repair shop in general, because even 118 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 1: independent repair shops there's good in bed and uh, I 119 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 1: think it's something that you need to be aware of 120 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 1: and we need to address. But you, if you're going 121 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:26,279 Speaker 1: to do this as the listener, as the vehicle owner, 122 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 1: you can't have preconceived notions. You've got to know that 123 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 1: you know what there are things there that you'll never understand. 124 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 1: You'll you'll you'll never realize what it is. And if 125 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 1: I had the ability, and I talk about this from 126 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 1: time to time, and I don't think there's any legal 127 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 1: way I can do it. I would love to take 128 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 1: like three people you know for a week, put them 129 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:51,600 Speaker 1: through car doctor boot camp. Let him stand around in 130 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 1: the shop and watch what goes on, and and watch 131 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 1: how something goes wrong and the best intention fails because 132 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:00,120 Speaker 1: of a part, because of an outside influence, because of 133 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 1: the vehicle, usually because of the vehicle, and the mechanic 134 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:06,599 Speaker 1: gets the blame for it, and that creates a whole 135 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 1: cycle of problems as well. So no preconceived notions, I think, 136 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 1: is where I would leave this opening conversation here on 137 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 1: the Car Doctor. When you're dealing with a repair facility, 138 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 1: but try and understand what you're dealing with, and above 139 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 1: all else, make sure you trust the repair shop. Because 140 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 1: if you ever call me and say the mechanics s 141 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 1: that I needed to do this, and I'm gonna ask you, 142 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 1: do you trust the shop? If you you know what, 143 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 1: You're in the wrong shop. There's no excuse for it. 144 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 1: If you can't find a mechanic you trust, turning your 145 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 1: driver's license and start walking hello and welcome. Run any 146 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 1: of the card doctor right zero nine zero zero. Let 147 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 1: me point out I'm a mechanic you can trust because 148 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 1: I've got no act to grind. I just want to 149 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 1: help you fix the car that this radio show is 150 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 1: all about. The websites Car Doctor show dot com. You 151 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 1: can also find all sorts of information there. And before 152 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 1: I take this call, I've got Tommy online. One Before 153 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 1: I take that call, let me pull over and take 154 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 1: the pause and we'll come back and take them fresh 155 00:07:57,720 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 1: right at the going into the bottom of the hour. 156 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 1: So I'm on an any of the Car Doctor. We'll 157 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 1: be back right after this. Stay tuned, tom welcome back. 158 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 1: We're on Annie in the Car Doctor here at five 159 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:37,719 Speaker 1: zero nine nine zero zero, here to take your call 160 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 1: and answer your question. That is number. By the way. 161 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 1: If this show is not on a year, call zero 162 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:45,680 Speaker 1: nine nine zero zero and we'll call you back and 163 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:47,559 Speaker 1: get you in the queue and talk to you about 164 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 1: your car problem. Let's open the garage doors and get 165 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 1: over there and talk to Tommy Jacksonville, Florida and some 166 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 1: problems with the two thousand two Chevy Cavalier. Tommy, Welcome 167 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 1: to the Car Doctor, sir. How can I help? Yes, 168 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 1: sir on um, Yes, my two thousand two, Cavalier was 169 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 1: running hot. I changed out the whole thermostats, you know, 170 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 1: flushed out radiators and stuff. Still um, didn't the gauge 171 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 1: for the thermostate gauge still fluctuate? Running hot? Okay? Is 172 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:22,560 Speaker 1: it now? Let me ask you, Tom, is it is 173 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:25,440 Speaker 1: it in the red? Is it steaming? Do you see 174 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 1: physical signs from under the hood or is it just 175 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:33,679 Speaker 1: by gauge? Um, it is now starting to steam from 176 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 1: the engine? Um, smoke, A little smoke now starting to blow. Okay, 177 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 1: So let's we're gonna make an assumption. And we both 178 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 1: know on family radio why that's a dangerous word, but 179 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:47,839 Speaker 1: we're gonna assume the engines overheating. I would sure love 180 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 1: to verify that by looking at a scan tool and 181 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 1: seeing what that a stream says and seeing we're temp is. 182 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 1: But what we'll make the assumption, all right, So, okay, 183 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:01,320 Speaker 1: one of the things that's a little dangerous here is 184 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:03,200 Speaker 1: that I'm going to talk to you about working on 185 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 1: an engine that's overheating, and if a hose pops could 186 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:09,959 Speaker 1: leave you with pretty serious burns. So you've got to 187 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 1: be careful and considerate of what you're doing here. All right. Um, 188 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 1: one of the first things I look at on a 189 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 1: Cavalier when I come to the diagnostic conclusion that this 190 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 1: engine is overheating. All right, And I've gone through the 191 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 1: the obvious stuff, all right, And I'm sure everybody's talked 192 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 1: to you about are the cooling fans coming on? You've 193 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 1: done a thermostat, You've considered the radiator. Uh, you know, 194 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 1: one of the other things you've got to look at 195 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 1: on a lot of these cars of this generation, not 196 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:40,679 Speaker 1: just Cavaliers, but all vehicles now, because the frontal port 197 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 1: area is so small, everything is critical. Is it missing 198 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 1: any air damns? Is it missing any air restrictors? Is 199 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 1: it missing anything that would channel air into the proper 200 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 1: area of the radiator itself? Once you're sure of all that, 201 00:10:57,440 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 1: all right, and again I just want to cover the basics. 202 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what I think is wrong with this vehicle, 203 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 1: all right, in that if this vehicle is warm, pop 204 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 1: the hood, is the lower hose cold? Do you know 205 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 1: if it is or isn't? Yeah? No, Um, I didn't. 206 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 1: I don't recall. Okay, here's the deal. Here's what And 207 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, you know, and this is this 208 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 1: is you know. This is the somewhere in the mix 209 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 1: of this diagnostic routine. This is you've checked the radiator, 210 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 1: you've you know, you've done a thermostat, you've verified cooling. 211 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 1: The fans come on at the proper time frame. It's 212 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 1: not a head gasket. It's not a combustion issue with 213 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:44,440 Speaker 1: overheating or superheating the cooling. This is the one thing 214 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 1: on a cavalier that everybody misses. You're ready. It may 215 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 1: have a bad heater core, and I'll explain that all right. 216 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 1: Chevy cavaliers of this of this generation take hot water 217 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 1: from the heater cores its cycles through and that's what 218 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 1: activates the thermostat and opens up the thermostat and allows 219 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:11,200 Speaker 1: circulation to happen. When the heater cores get restricted, know, 220 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 1: hot water comes out, the thermostat never opens and it 221 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 1: backs up the cooling and the radiator, causing the car 222 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 1: to overheat. So the question I've got is right. The 223 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 1: question I've got is is the lower radiator host cold 224 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 1: or is it cool? If it's cool, thermostats not opening up. 225 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 1: And then the second part of this becomes when the 226 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 1: car is cold, what you can do is, you know, 227 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 1: let the car sit overnight. The next day, disconnect the 228 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 1: two heater hoses and put a put a splice in there. 229 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 1: Just put a joint to connect the two hoses together 230 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:51,320 Speaker 1: and then start the car, and that will allow hot 231 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:54,840 Speaker 1: water to circulate bypassing the heater core. And if now 232 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 1: the vehicle does not overheat, you've got a restricted heater core. 233 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 1: And you can either try bad flushing it or replacing 234 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 1: it as the second step, but the problem will be 235 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 1: in the heater court itself causing the problem. Okay, okay, 236 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 1: because yeah, it doesn't like it takes to for the 237 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 1: thermostat they open hand for the fan. They jumped on 238 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 1: like they late, let me ask. And you know you're 239 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:24,320 Speaker 1: part of the country. It doesn't get too too too 240 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 1: cold down there. Do you remember the last time you 241 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:30,559 Speaker 1: use the heat did it work at all? Yes, you 242 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 1: did one of them which used it for a few weeks, right, 243 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:37,440 Speaker 1: but that was yeah, that was the winter that was 244 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 1: seven months ago, right, Yeah, So you know I would 245 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:44,560 Speaker 1: I would get this car to warm up up to 246 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:47,440 Speaker 1: a point where you think it's a normal cycle real quick, 247 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 1: being mindful, shut it off, open the hood. If the 248 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 1: lower radiator hose is cold and the upper hose is hot, 249 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 1: that thermostat's not open, and I would be very concerned 250 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 1: and thinking about that that heater core is stricted causing 251 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 1: a a a an overheat condition just like I described. Alright, sir, Okay, 252 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:10,840 Speaker 1: let's take it from there, and remember what I said about, 253 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 1: you know, air restrictors and air channeling and listen. It 254 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 1: could also be a radiator that's just tired to Tom, 255 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 1: But let's verify cool and flow and that the system 256 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 1: has circulation before we go any further. Alright, Ken, So 257 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 1: if you need me, send me an email Ron at 258 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 1: card Doctor show dot com. We'll do my best to 259 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 1: get back to you. All right, very good sir, Good 260 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 1: luck to you. Tom. Let me know what happens. But um, yeah, 261 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 1: that's that's the way that two thousand, two thousand one, 262 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 1: two thousand two Grand Damns Cavaliers sunfires, all vehicles, all 263 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 1: GM vehicles that generation. They circulate hot water the heater 264 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 1: because we want to give customers heat real quick. And 265 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 1: if that heat or core is restricted, it's one of 266 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 1: the downfalls that it won't open the thermostat and now 267 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 1: the heat will back up and overheat and superheat and 268 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 1: the radiator and become a problem. The engine actually does overheat. 269 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 1: So let's get over the line too. Let's go. Hey, 270 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 1: look who it is. Shirley Vaney, our favorite granny and 271 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 1: a Corvette. How are you today, Shirley? I'm good, Ron, 272 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 1: how are you? Oh good? I'm glad we got you back. 273 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 1: I know we were talking about this before the show. Today, 274 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 1: Harry surprised me and brought you on. UM. For those 275 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 1: of you just tuning in, Shirley was running in the 276 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 1: sun Valley Road Rally out there was that in Idaho? Shirley, 277 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 1: I don't remember. Yeah, and Shirley from Boise, Idaho. And 278 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 1: this is this is the second year you're doing this Shirley, 279 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 1: Yes it was. And UM, your goal was to reach 280 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 1: a certain mile an hour in a Corvette. What what 281 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 1: did you want to hit speed wise? Well, I wanted 282 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 1: to do one seventy and actually my speed was one 283 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 1: seventy one four when I crossed the finish line. But uh, 284 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 1: we had a headwind, so I think I could have 285 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 1: maybe gone to one. That would have been great, but 286 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 1: that headwind held held us back. Last year it was 287 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 1: a nice smooth run of a hundred and sixty six 288 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 1: point three and UM, this year. When we we start 289 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 1: out and we had up a small hill and when 290 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 1: we got to the top of the hill, blast the 291 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 1: wind hit as sideways and it knocked the top of 292 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 1: my passenger window out and changed the whole air inside 293 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 1: of the car. Plus that's when we hit the headwind. 294 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 1: So I had my foot on the floor and and 295 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 1: we just kept going. And yeah, yeah, but it could 296 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 1: have been better. Surely. How old are you? I can 297 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 1: ask you that? Can I? Yeah, I'm eight two. Um 298 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 1: uh you know I love you. You're great, You're you're 299 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 1: You've got that spirit in you that's made this country 300 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 1: what it is. And uh, the good stuff, the good 301 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 1: part that you know that can do attitude. Um. I 302 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 1: would have loved to have been there and seen this. 303 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:07,159 Speaker 1: Is this out on YouTube and all by chance it 304 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 1: will be under my name on YouTube there will be 305 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:15,920 Speaker 1: um a video I had a camera in the car, 306 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 1: and also it'll be going to go Granny Go Corvette Facebook, 307 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:27,680 Speaker 1: and UM, I think that's probably about it. And oh, 308 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:31,240 Speaker 1: I have a photo I'd like to send you. It's 309 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 1: of my car coming to the finish line showing the 310 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:38,639 Speaker 1: black and white flags flying straight at me instead of 311 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:42,679 Speaker 1: going with me. That's a deal. You send me, email 312 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 1: them to me Ron at Car Doctor Show dot com 313 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 1: and uh and we'll pick up and we'll pick him 314 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:51,120 Speaker 1: up there. Um, but that's great. I was also going 315 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 1: to ask, when you know, when you're you're barreling along 316 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 1: at a hundred and sixty plus hundred seventy mile, what's 317 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:01,399 Speaker 1: going through your mind? Is it you're just on the 318 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:03,360 Speaker 1: edge and hanging on or do you feel like you're 319 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 1: in control? Well, on this trip, it was a rough, 320 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 1: kind of a rough ride with the wind and um, 321 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 1: so it was pretty much just you know, hanging onto 322 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 1: the wheel and keeping my foot down. And I think 323 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:25,920 Speaker 1: when we get the video up, you'll probably and and 324 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:29,440 Speaker 1: you can see it and you'll probably see that it 325 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 1: wasn't the smooth ride of last year, but it was 326 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 1: welcod for you. Surelee, we're gonna touch base again. We 327 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 1: want to hear about next year's run. Next year we'll 328 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:40,440 Speaker 1: shoot for one eight and we hope that you can 329 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:42,199 Speaker 1: do that as well. Thanks, Shirley, I'm on any in 330 00:18:42,200 --> 00:19:06,200 Speaker 1: the Car Doctor. We're back right after this. Welcome back 331 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 1: round Ninny and the Card Doctor. Zero nine nine zero zero. 332 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:12,640 Speaker 1: Always good to talk to Shirley. Vaney. Now, for those 333 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 1: of you that kind of came in part way in 334 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:18,399 Speaker 1: that conversation, understand, Shirley's eighty two years old. She's a grandma. Um, 335 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:20,399 Speaker 1: we've never met. We just know that we love her 336 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 1: because of her attitude and uh, what she does behind 337 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:25,639 Speaker 1: the wheel of an automobile. Her goal this year was 338 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 1: to go out in that in that rally out there 339 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 1: in Idaho and hit over a hundred and seventy miles 340 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 1: an hour. And she went a hundred seventy one point two. 341 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:33,920 Speaker 1: I don't care if she had a head wind, a tailwind, 342 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:36,639 Speaker 1: aside wind. She still went a hundred and seventy one 343 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 1: and change in a Corvette. And she's eighty two years old. 344 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 1: And that takes a lot to hang on to listen. Um, 345 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:45,119 Speaker 1: I know his story about a youngster compared to Shirley 346 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:46,920 Speaker 1: who was out last night cruising around in a black 347 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 1: fifty five Chevy who has having a hard time hanging 348 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 1: onto the wheel, trying to get it up to ninety 349 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 1: and keep it straight. And um, not anybody that I 350 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 1: know personally, but um, somebody that well you could just 351 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 1: imagine who that was. I'm not telling tales. Let's uh, 352 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 1: let's get over to the phones and let's go talk 353 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:04,199 Speaker 1: to Frank out in Hawaii. Always a pleasure to talk 354 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 1: to anybody in Hawaii. Frank, how are you today? Are today? 355 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:11,120 Speaker 1: I'm on vacation. I'm looking at a two forty. It's 356 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 1: either a d L or an O L Vogel, a 357 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:19,159 Speaker 1: four cylinder, five speed. I want to I want to 358 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 1: build it up from the ground up with my master 359 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 1: mechanic Ken. I won't get his last name. How many? 360 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:26,359 Speaker 1: How many many cars? You've done? A few cars from 361 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 1: what I understand, Frank, how many cars? Fifty seven cars, 362 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:33,920 Speaker 1: title tagged and license in five states? Wow? Um? And 363 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 1: the last car on it was a two thousand and 364 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 1: five cross Fire. But my g T P I brought 365 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 1: from Florida to Hawaii and drag race and came in 366 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 1: second place. What what year do you start building cars? 367 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 1: I was fourteen years old in my nineteen thirty seven 368 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 1: lot car. And then's when the police come. You just 369 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:55,399 Speaker 1: drive off the road onto a farm. And then my 370 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 1: parents taught me to driving a fifty four Lincoln Capri 371 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 1: with five four years Frank, can I ask you a question? 372 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 1: How old are you? Seventy two years old? I got 373 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 1: a high voice. So so yeah, not not that, but yeah, 374 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 1: well that's what I was gonna say. So, so what 375 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 1: year did you start? Nineteen thirty seven you started working 376 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 1: on cars, so the car was ninety seven. I was 377 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:19,640 Speaker 1: fourteen years old. My uncle bought me to the black car. 378 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 1: But my first car was a fifty seven Chevy six 379 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 1: that my dad bought me. But no radio. He said, 380 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:28,400 Speaker 1: that distracts you. Here are four cars in his life, 381 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:33,119 Speaker 1: seven probably about twenty before he died. It's it's a 382 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:34,959 Speaker 1: good thing your father isn't here to see this day 383 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,200 Speaker 1: and age with cell phones and all the distractions people have. 384 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:40,159 Speaker 1: All right, yeah, it's pretty serious in the why with 385 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:43,879 Speaker 1: cell phones is now thine? If they catch you, but 386 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:46,119 Speaker 1: they call the server to make sure that you were 387 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:48,400 Speaker 1: on the phone when they give you the ticket. See, 388 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:50,879 Speaker 1: and I don't understand why if we wanted to just 389 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 1: eliminate all this nonsense, just make it so the cell 390 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 1: phone doesn't work if at the text movement, I don't 391 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 1: get your idea. I don't get why that's not that's 392 00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 1: not up being done texting that the kids do. That's 393 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 1: caused more accidents in this country than you can imagine. Right, 394 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 1: let's just disable the function. The cell phone doesn't work 395 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:10,119 Speaker 1: if you're going over a mile an hour. It's a simple, 396 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 1: as you know. But that the solution. Let's call the 397 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:16,119 Speaker 1: president up in town. Well, I can tell you why. 398 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 1: I can tell you why they'll never do it because 399 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:22,440 Speaker 1: in this, in this humble Mechanics opinion, they won't do 400 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:26,359 Speaker 1: it because all the cell phone carriers will lose business 401 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:29,440 Speaker 1: because they won't be consuming data the way they're consuming 402 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 1: it now. And what your opinion about the Volvo Vovo car? 403 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 1: I owned the hundred and at the eighteen hundreds. The 404 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 1: other model we can my mechanic has one of those 405 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:43,119 Speaker 1: city services, the fourth phone. There was the greatest car. 406 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 1: I ever had. It rolled three times and I walked away. 407 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 1: Let me, let me, let me tell you, let me 408 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 1: tell you my Volvo perspective, Frank, and for you and 409 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:55,199 Speaker 1: everyone else out there, I like the older Volvos all right. 410 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:57,640 Speaker 1: When it when it came time to put my first 411 00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:01,400 Speaker 1: born in a car, I had the opportunity to purchase 412 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 1: for three dollars a forty Volvo that at the time 413 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:10,639 Speaker 1: at the time had a hundred and sixty thousand miles 414 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 1: on it. I had serviced the car from the moment 415 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:15,160 Speaker 1: it hit thirty five thousand. That's when it came into 416 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 1: my life, and I worked on it for a good right. 417 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 1: I know what was done and how it was done, 418 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 1: and a hundred and sixty thousand miles. I believe, I'm 419 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:26,720 Speaker 1: trying to remember what went wrong with it, but not. 420 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:29,960 Speaker 1: It wasn't the engine computer. There was another emission controller 421 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 1: spark computer that went south and it was piece. The 422 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 1: customer didn't want to deal with it anymore, and they 423 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 1: sold me the car for the diagnostics I had in it. 424 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:41,920 Speaker 1: I then went I then went through the car and 425 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 1: from front to back, left to right, and replaced every 426 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:52,680 Speaker 1: single piece part, rubber component, maintenance item, anything that was leaking, dripping, 427 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 1: went through the car perfect. When my daughter turned seventeen, 428 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 1: five months later, I handed her an absolute perfect eight 429 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,680 Speaker 1: nine Volvo with a hundred sixty thousand miles on it, 430 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:07,399 Speaker 1: which was safe on the road. Let me tell you 431 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:09,200 Speaker 1: how safe that car is. I got a phone call 432 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:11,120 Speaker 1: one day. Her and her sister were in the car 433 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:14,440 Speaker 1: on the way to school, and my wife called me 434 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 1: and she said, you know who just just slid off 435 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 1: the road on her way to school in the ice storm. 436 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 1: And I went uh. I turned the plow truck around, 437 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 1: and I was there in about two and a half 438 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:26,879 Speaker 1: minutes or what seemed like too an a half minutes, 439 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,359 Speaker 1: which was really twenty. And as I was there, the 440 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 1: tow truck and the police were just pulling it out 441 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 1: of the ditch. The kids were standing over by the 442 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:38,200 Speaker 1: police car. They were okay, just shook, just shook up, obviously. UM. 443 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 1: I walked around the car. I kicked the snow out 444 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:42,159 Speaker 1: of the wheel. Well as the police know who I 445 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 1: am and what I do. I gave the car the 446 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:46,399 Speaker 1: quick once over, took the key out of the ignition, 447 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 1: went over to my daughter, talked to her for five minutes. 448 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:49,639 Speaker 1: I said, are you okay to drive? We had the 449 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 1: whole conversation. She said yeah absolutely. UM. I handed her, 450 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:54,440 Speaker 1: I handed her back of keys, and I said go 451 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 1: to school. And the cops just looked at me, and 452 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 1: I said, it's a Volvo. There's nothing wrong with it. 453 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 1: Um a five L five five speed for the door, 454 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 1: and I can pick it up and kennel go through 455 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:12,360 Speaker 1: it from the ground up tires and everything said about yeah, 456 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 1: it's O no. No. I called Texas and they said 457 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:20,200 Speaker 1: that's a solid car. Yeah, absolutely, Oh, absolutely, And a 458 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 1: hundred thousand is nothing. Do you know that the average 459 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 1: Volvo four cylinder back in the day was rated to 460 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 1: go a half a million miles? Yeah, but you kind 461 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:35,399 Speaker 1: of realized that the other Volvo was a wagon. To 462 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 1: change the inside belt, we had to take the air 463 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,639 Speaker 1: conditioner off, right, Well, they didn't have the belt that 464 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 1: you could you know, screw together now like da Now 465 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:46,200 Speaker 1: you know, Volvo somewhere around everybody says, why don't I 466 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:48,679 Speaker 1: like Volvos any longer? And I'm gonna tell you, somewhere 467 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:54,920 Speaker 1: around nine six, Volvo became this. They kind of went 468 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 1: from being the skinny Elvis to the heavy elvis alright, 469 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,400 Speaker 1: that sort of they were out of shape. They were, 470 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:04,359 Speaker 1: they were you know, bloated, they were. They just weren't 471 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:06,920 Speaker 1: nice cars and easy to work on. And Volvo was 472 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,680 Speaker 1: kind of in a diagnostic direction where the scan tool 473 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:12,119 Speaker 1: capability and what scan tool to use changed on a 474 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:16,720 Speaker 1: monthly basis. It seemed and and just very difficult to 475 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 1: deal with. And it's funny, you know, up until a 476 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 1: couple of years ago, Volvo had this attitude in my opinion, 477 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,480 Speaker 1: were Volvo, we don't need to conform to anybody and 478 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 1: you know what, but can up and I'll let you 479 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 1: know off the year. I'll tell you his last name. 480 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,199 Speaker 1: He's a master mechanic and he's as good as you are. 481 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 1: But he's a little bit older, so he's been I 482 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 1: would say buy it because you're you know, eighty five 483 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 1: are okay? If this was if this was in the nineties, 484 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 1: I'd be a little leary. But eighty five, you're buying 485 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 1: a very mechanical car. But anyway, I want to thank 486 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 1: you so much for telling the people about safety. Some 487 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,119 Speaker 1: of these new cars that are out gets hit by 488 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,639 Speaker 1: a tractor tiler and I'll tell you what. He'll tell 489 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 1: you what, Frank, I'd like to I'd like to get 490 00:26:58,080 --> 00:26:59,680 Speaker 1: your thoughts on that can. Can you hang onto the 491 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 1: phone for just a second, stay stay right where you 492 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:04,239 Speaker 1: are on any of the Car Doctor. We're back right 493 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 1: after this. Welcome back. We're on any in the car 494 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:39,239 Speaker 1: doctor here zero nine nine zero zero. That's seven Car 495 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 1: Doctor phone number. To give us a call and talk 496 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 1: to us about your car problem. If we're not on 497 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:46,440 Speaker 1: the air, leave a message eight five five five zero 498 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 1: nine zero zero and we'll call you back and get 499 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,679 Speaker 1: you in queue for the following week. Um email Ron 500 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 1: at Car Doctors Show dot com. More information about this 501 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 1: radio show at Car Doctor Show dot com. We're talking 502 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:00,880 Speaker 1: with Frank who's in Florida today but his sides in Hawaii. 503 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:04,400 Speaker 1: Frank has fifty seven cars and he's working on purchasing 504 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 1: number fifty eight. Franc you're still there, sir, Yeah, I'm 505 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:10,480 Speaker 1: still here. We're on the second most expensive thing a 506 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 1: person buys as a vehicle, beside the house. And it 507 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,920 Speaker 1: is important to have a good doctor for your health 508 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 1: and the best doctor for your car. And that's why 509 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 1: your show is so important. You're teaching people that some 510 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 1: of these shadre mechanics aren't what they're built up to be. 511 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 1: Do you think, Frank, You know, you've got a couple 512 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:34,960 Speaker 1: of years on me, not many, but a few. And 513 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 1: where do you see self driving cars taking the country 514 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 1: for better or worse? I don't. I mean. I was 515 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 1: at the sixty four Worlds Fairs my first job, and 516 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 1: they had the self driving cars. They also had the 517 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 1: four World Drive. I've driven the Pontiac uh four World 518 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 1: Drive poor Will Steer car at the eighty eight National Convention. 519 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 1: I don't think it's gonna happen because Walt Disney had 520 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 1: it in his z Epcot world in in sixty four. 521 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,160 Speaker 1: And I don't think it's gonna happened because people like 522 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 1: the freedom of driving, even though it's dangerous. So people 523 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 1: want to be to be behind the wheel and control, 524 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:11,960 Speaker 1: just not on the cell phone. Don't you love your idea? 525 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 1: I really think every manufacturer right now should have it. 526 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 1: When you step in the car, the cell phone doesn't 527 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:19,959 Speaker 1: work well, you know, the cell phone. You know, when 528 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 1: you talk about something that's had such a dramatic effect 529 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 1: on society, in my mind, one of those big things 530 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 1: is the cell phone. You know. I see people all 531 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,360 Speaker 1: the time. You see four people in the car and 532 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 1: one of them is driving, and they're all on the 533 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 1: cell phone. There's no interaction anymore. There's no conversation anymore. 534 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 1: Kids don't know how hands free cellphones. Even in CHRISTI LeBaron, 535 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 1: I had hands free with the little speaker above the 536 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 1: above advisor. I've never gotten a ticket for a cell phone. 537 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:55,719 Speaker 1: I've never had an ey I've never had a ticket 538 00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 1: in the Hawaii for fifteen years. And the main thing 539 00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:02,719 Speaker 1: is care because I'm rescue squad in the fire company. 540 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 1: But I don't. When you get in that car, you're 541 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 1: endangered to other people beside yourself, right, and you've got 542 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 1: to be aware of that. But I just never heard 543 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 1: that before. Cell phones don't work in cars. I love it, Yeah, 544 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 1: just don't make it so well. It's not that it 545 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 1: doesn't work in cars. It doesn't work if you're moving 546 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 1: and there's you're moving that there's just just you know 547 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 1: or you know what. How about if it's moving, He 548 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,600 Speaker 1: isn't even better idea. If it's moving, we're gonna charge 549 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 1: you double the datta usage hit him, hit him in 550 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 1: their pocketbook. You'll see people think this is the worst 551 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 1: idea going all of a sudden, everybody will be throwing 552 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 1: their cell phones out. Uh No, I don't think to 553 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 1: throw them out. I think communication is very important, and 554 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,720 Speaker 1: especially if there's an accident. I had one of the first, 555 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 1: the first cars that had the what's that called it? 556 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 1: Not GPS, the a'n Sorry. I brought it to Hawaii 557 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:56,960 Speaker 1: and it was the third car in Mali with GPS, 558 00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:58,960 Speaker 1: and I the fire department used it because it was 559 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 1: five watts. They called in the fire with my line 560 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:05,720 Speaker 1: when their radios didn't work. Their Dot six amore. Yeah, 561 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 1: you've seen a lot of technology, Frank, haven't you. You've 562 00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 1: seen a lot of change. I was in communication. I 563 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:15,880 Speaker 1: had one of the first units with ibm uh suitcase 564 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 1: for thirty two pounds at the convention Center in New 565 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:23,480 Speaker 1: York with a motor of five what see, five watts 566 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,960 Speaker 1: is what hurts your brain? Dot six is what a 567 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 1: cell phone is. When you hold it up to your ear, 568 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,960 Speaker 1: you're you're not getting as much radiation, right right, Well, 569 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 1: listen to ares that have voice free if you're not 570 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,640 Speaker 1: looking at the screen with the number you're calling. At 571 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,360 Speaker 1: least you can talk and drive. But that's still a distraction. 572 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:43,440 Speaker 1: As I said, my dad would not let me have 573 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:46,400 Speaker 1: a radio in the first car. Well, and you know 574 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 1: cars then and like that or like the Volvo that 575 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:53,480 Speaker 1: you're going to purchase. Uh, you know it's they're very mechanical. 576 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 1: The electronics on the cars today make you very make 577 00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 1: you very um. You're acquired to depend on the car, 578 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,520 Speaker 1: and I think it takes away some Your mechanic is 579 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 1: as good as your your family doctor. So tell your people, 580 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,520 Speaker 1: you know, to look for a great mechanic, not a 581 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 1: shade tree mechanic. Yeah. Well, I've been saying that. Listen, 582 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:19,280 Speaker 1: come January this year, coming January, I'll have been saying 583 00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:22,840 Speaker 1: that for twenty five years. How many people come into 584 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,920 Speaker 1: your place with a basket full of parts that they're 585 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:28,920 Speaker 1: shade tree mchannic couldn't put back together? Oh, you know, 586 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,560 Speaker 1: they come in, but they only get to come in once. Um. 587 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:35,200 Speaker 1: You know, because that's another conversation. You know, around the shop, 588 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:37,080 Speaker 1: we tell everybody we're not here to be fireman and 589 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,200 Speaker 1: put out the fire. We're here to develop a relationship 590 00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:41,239 Speaker 1: with you. And if if you think we're firemen, then 591 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 1: we're not. In Florida, there's a few ace mechanics, then 592 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:48,280 Speaker 1: there's a few master mechanics. And in every state I've 593 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:51,600 Speaker 1: ever been to, um not at the dealerships. The dealerships 594 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:54,720 Speaker 1: have pretty good people. But you're not paying the mechanic. 595 00:32:54,840 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 1: You're paying the dealer that Frank think it's making sixty 596 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:03,520 Speaker 1: if he's lucky. If he's lucky, yeah, and he's not 597 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,480 Speaker 1: making that anymore. To trust me, that's another conversation, Frank, 598 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:09,920 Speaker 1: I enjoyed. I enjoyed my time with you. Off the year, 599 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,320 Speaker 1: I'd like to give Harry the phone number. Yeah, let him, 600 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 1: you know, stay stay right. We are in Harry'll grab 601 00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:16,040 Speaker 1: it from you and I look forward. We'll talk again. 602 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:18,040 Speaker 1: Let us know how the Volvo shapes up. Maybe you 603 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:19,720 Speaker 1: can send us some pictures. I'm running any in the 604 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:40,040 Speaker 1: car doctor. We are back right after this the streets 605 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:48,720 Speaker 1: and welcome back. Why don't you need the car doctor? 606 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:51,120 Speaker 1: Kind of winding things down this hour? The phone number 607 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:52,959 Speaker 1: for well the rest of this hour if you want 608 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:54,360 Speaker 1: to try and sneak in. But if not, if you 609 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 1: give us a qualitt eight five five five six zero 610 00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 1: zero zero, we're off the year. Uh. Keep in mind 611 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,880 Speaker 1: that the seven number, there's an answering service attached to that. 612 00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:08,840 Speaker 1: You can call zero zero zero and UM leave a 613 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:11,480 Speaker 1: message fast Harry. We'll call you back and get you 614 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:13,320 Speaker 1: in que we can talk to you about your car problem. 615 00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:15,240 Speaker 1: Next time we're live on the air, which is Saturday 616 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:18,360 Speaker 1: afternoons to to four pm Eastern time. Real quick story. 617 00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 1: I wanted to finish out the hour, you know, the 618 00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:22,839 Speaker 1: insanity of order repair, and I'm gonna try and bring 619 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:24,520 Speaker 1: more of what goes on behind the scenes and the 620 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:27,920 Speaker 1: repair shop to the forefront, uh here on air because 621 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:29,960 Speaker 1: I keep hearing from all of you and uh that 622 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 1: that's really what you want to hear. Saw a license 623 00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:35,680 Speaker 1: New Jersey Motor Vehicle inspector, And um, I've done all 624 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:37,719 Speaker 1: my certifications, and I've gone through all my tests, and 625 00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:40,160 Speaker 1: I've I've done what I had to do in order 626 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:43,279 Speaker 1: to have the license. I fill out all my paperwork 627 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:46,440 Speaker 1: due diligence. I do everything in a timely manner. I really, 628 00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:48,600 Speaker 1: you know, live the task, because you can imagine I 629 00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:50,680 Speaker 1: try to do it right as much as I possibly 630 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,480 Speaker 1: humanly can within my reach and as the knowledge that 631 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:55,719 Speaker 1: I've gotten, you know, this is the way we've got 632 00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:58,080 Speaker 1: to do it. Let's do it. So I renewed my 633 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:01,480 Speaker 1: PITH for my Private Inspection for Ability license back in May. 634 00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:03,800 Speaker 1: So it was done in a timely manner. It expired 635 00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,840 Speaker 1: in August, so I renewed my license. It's hanging on 636 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,279 Speaker 1: the wall the shop to check clear. The license is right. 637 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:13,720 Speaker 1: Everything is good to go. Imagine my surprise this past 638 00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 1: week when on Tuesday I received the notice from the 639 00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:19,880 Speaker 1: state that says, it's come to my attention that you 640 00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:22,239 Speaker 1: have not renewed your PITH license. You may be locked 641 00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:24,960 Speaker 1: out of your inspection equipment and unable to perform inspections 642 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:28,440 Speaker 1: until you renew your inspection facility license. Please call your 643 00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:31,520 Speaker 1: regional office if you have questions or require assistance, and 644 00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:34,279 Speaker 1: they give you a list of phone numbers. Gee, how 645 00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:36,959 Speaker 1: could that be? You know, Winston Churchill was pretty smart. 646 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:38,640 Speaker 1: I've been thinking about him a lot lately since I 647 00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:41,800 Speaker 1: watched that documentary on Netflix about Stay Calm and carry on. 648 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,520 Speaker 1: And you've gotta understand, as you can imagine, this gets 649 00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:46,719 Speaker 1: my blood boiling. I'm doing my job. Wait a minute, 650 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:48,640 Speaker 1: what do you mean my license isn't renewed. I'm looking 651 00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:50,680 Speaker 1: at it on the wall. It says it expires next year. 652 00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:55,120 Speaker 1: In I called the regional office. I speak to Bob, 653 00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:58,320 Speaker 1: who I always speak to, and UM said Bob, this 654 00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:00,439 Speaker 1: is round. I'm a PIF and waldeck gotta. I said, 655 00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:03,399 Speaker 1: let me guess you got to notice that your license expired? Yeah, 656 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:05,279 Speaker 1: had you know? He goes, Oh, the state just sent 657 00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:08,319 Speaker 1: that out to everybody. Um, it doesn't necessarily mean your 658 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:10,280 Speaker 1: license expired. They were just trying to get your attention. 659 00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:13,839 Speaker 1: Well they succeeded. Um, what does this mean? He goes nothing? 660 00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:15,680 Speaker 1: He goes, you got your license? Yeah, then carry on 661 00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:19,120 Speaker 1: do your inspections. So I couldn't help but think government 662 00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:23,719 Speaker 1: bureaucracy at its best, an official communication generates nothing but aggravation. 663 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,320 Speaker 1: Sometimes you're better if I'm not hearing from anybody until 664 00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:29,759 Speaker 1: the next time. The mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless, se