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Speaker 1: M h.

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Speaker 2: What story time with the legendary Jerry. I am Jerry Clark,

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Speaker 2: a k A. The legendary Jerry New Face. What's that

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Speaker 2: smirk about you? I'm excited about.

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, because your legendary j But we got a

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Speaker 3: Grammy Award winning legend on the stage too, so I'm

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Speaker 3: just honored to be So I'm gonna let you go.

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Speaker 2: But that's what Yeah, Okay, well, new Face, New Face

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Speaker 2: was there. He's everywhere, my brother, my sidekick, and the

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Speaker 2: piggyback off of what you said, new Face. We have

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Speaker 2: a guest today, our guest. He's on. He's a friend

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Speaker 2: of mine. We were just joking about he's personally. Professionally

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Speaker 2: he's been. He's been, he's been with me and I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna get into in a minute. He had has been

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Speaker 2: instrumental in me coming in the music business. If it

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Speaker 2: weren't for him, you know, having his hands on my

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Speaker 2: early internship, real ship, I wouldn't be here. It wouldn't

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Speaker 2: be no legendary JA. So saying that's with me, without

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Speaker 2: saying anything else, I want to introduce super producer, even

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Speaker 2: a better person, a better to walk in y'all. Super

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Speaker 2: Producer Grimy award winning producer. Uh, I know he dropped

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Speaker 2: the DJ from it, but I'm gonna call on and again.

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Speaker 2: We're just gonna say, what's up playing?

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Speaker 1: How you doing?

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Speaker 2: Hey? Man is a.

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Speaker 1: Jerry Curle, He's still DJ.

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Speaker 3: We were just at the new face in this jont

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Speaker 3: orchestra hauling this man.

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Speaker 2: Nigga and and I forget.

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Speaker 1: I know, yeah, thank you.

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Speaker 3: We don't know what's going upstairs and he down there

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Speaker 3: playing and I'm up there.

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Speaker 1: You had the women out there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you

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Speaker 1: know me man kind of when we're talking about earlier.

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Speaker 3: I even like DJ for like thirty five and up crowds.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, I got you know, some of my playlists.

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Speaker 3: I get in some of the young stuff, but a

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Speaker 3: lot of my stuff, man, between seventies and early two thousands. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: a lot of this new stuff ain't even dacable hooker music.

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Speaker 1: It's not on the couch.

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Speaker 2: And your section is either out of damnitar and depressing

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Speaker 2: section where you want to go lay down and the.

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Speaker 1: Same like everybody want to play, Like say, Tobin, now

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Speaker 1: you know you hear the ship.

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Speaker 2: But I want to tell this story. Is I want

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Speaker 2: to tell this story real quick because it shows you,

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Speaker 2: like I say in the intro of how much this

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Speaker 2: man means to me? Back in we'll just say the

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Speaker 2: early nineties, I interned in two labels. One I was

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Speaker 2: Relativity Ruthless Records, and the other one was an independent label,

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Speaker 2: Down Payment Records. It was Nasty Nasty, Chok you out.

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Speaker 2: It was Brother Marquis, Two Live Crew and uh and

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Speaker 2: and a brother named D. They had the label and

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Speaker 2: they allowed me to intern there and that helped spear

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Speaker 2: head my music career. So that's why I was saying

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Speaker 2: in the intro, I owe a lot to this brother,

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Speaker 2: and I learned a lot because that was my first

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Speaker 2: time going on the rod with an artist. You got

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Speaker 2: to think about, Brother Marquise was fresh off Two Live Crew,

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Speaker 2: so he don't fresh off shot D and all that,

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Speaker 2: you know. So that was my first intro to going

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Speaker 2: on the road talking to radio station program directors, going

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Speaker 2: to retails early nineties, man, get a van, get a van,

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Speaker 2: we got a van, and just hitting them out and

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Speaker 2: that was that was the only job training that I needed.

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Speaker 2: So I just want to say to my audience, you know,

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Speaker 2: all the accolades were gonna give him because we definitely

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Speaker 2: about to give him his flowers and y'all go ahead.

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Speaker 2: One thing about this brother, he don't bite his tongue.

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Speaker 2: So hey, so whatever you ask a new fake to

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Speaker 2: be prepared meats.

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Speaker 1: Man. It love the truth.

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Speaker 2: I putting the truth and we need more people like that. Yeah, man,

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Speaker 2: so we go jumping too. You know we said a

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Speaker 2: minute ago with you working with Shaddy who was signed

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Speaker 2: to Luke Poison Clan was signed to Luke, what was

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Speaker 2: those early days like rolling around with them? And it

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Speaker 2: was you know, because you know, I've had Luke on

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Speaker 2: the show and we're gonna have.

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Speaker 1: Him on again, Luther camerall.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's meant a lot. He's meant a lot to

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Speaker 2: the culture, just not the South, but overall. Yeah, where

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Speaker 2: was those early days like with with with Luke Records

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Speaker 2: with you know, because that was that was the base record,

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Speaker 2: that was that was base musica movement. Yeah, so that

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Speaker 3: So I'm gonna tell you well, to speak of that,

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Speaker 3: I can still compare it to because at first I

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Speaker 3: eighty five, right, so you know that that was from

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Speaker 3: you know, still being in high school, going out of town,

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Speaker 3: distance from Atlanta. And we had you know, a few

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Speaker 3: little records that was, you know, catching around the southeast

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Speaker 3: righthinga dream, another joint called Eliminador produced by me and

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Speaker 3: or whatnot. And so we was like lightweight tours, going

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Speaker 3: around with different artists.

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Speaker 1: We'll open up for l ls and different stuff like that.

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Speaker 3: But boom, once I graduated Man and got with Shadi,

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Speaker 3: I had a chance to.

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Speaker 1: Really see what that real tour life was.

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Speaker 3: First time flying, first time on a real tour bus,

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean, beds stacked up, I ate

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Speaker 3: beds and shoot everything. Man, the whole thing that go

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Speaker 3: on tour, you know. Well, well with with Shadi, I

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Speaker 3: was for Shady, but it was us with Looke the whole.

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Speaker 3: That's when that's when the labels used to tour together,

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean, whoever to that label, it

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Speaker 3: was all on one tour together. So man, so being

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Speaker 3: in Miami and all that man bed with Luke and them,

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Speaker 3: I had a chance to really truly say I experienced

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Speaker 3: an independent label running at its finest.

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Speaker 1: Man with a young dude in.

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Speaker 3: His twenties, you know what I mean, mid late twenties

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Speaker 3: to be exact, true, Man Sending. He had this club

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Speaker 3: pack Jam was all in one.

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Speaker 1: It was the office. It was the warehouse where it

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Speaker 1: was the warehouse. His office was a whole nother.

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Speaker 3: Little spot, but it was the warehouse for all the supplies,

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Speaker 3: all the records and T shirts he had. It was

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Speaker 3: out of that too. Three things going on in this

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Speaker 3: one pack Jam building. If you look the old two

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Speaker 3: we don't have nothing to do with we're not in

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Speaker 3: you know, all the ghetto style DJs and whatnot. And

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Speaker 3: at least four days or four times a day, man,

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Speaker 3: you'll see a ups truck pull up orders going in,

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Speaker 1: Out or whatnot.

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Speaker 3: And that was the real days of independent, yeah, shipping

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Speaker 3: them through the distributors, Big State and Schwartz Brothers and

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Speaker 3: all those different you know, distribution companies in each region.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a few of them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm trying to think of Southwest Hosts Southwest.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so that was the good old days where you

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Speaker 3: could really see how many units were excuse me, we're

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Speaker 3: being sold. You can really audit your music, you know

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Speaker 3: what I mean. So it's like, and I'm great grateful

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Speaker 3: to say that I actually saw that go down and

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Speaker 3: be a part of that era, you know, tangible, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: music being sold, you know.

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Speaker 2: Ninety nine, learning and learning that business early on. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I learned the rare barriers from A to.

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Speaker 3: Z, Yes, sir, Yeah, from there as an independent label,

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Speaker 3: like you said, in Miami a major and you know,

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Speaker 3: in Miami it's always been like a you know a

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Speaker 3: lot of people look at New York and Cali, but

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Speaker 3: Miami always been super strong with independent label. You had

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Speaker 3: Jimmy Bohorn and a lot of other independent artists come

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Speaker 3: from down there. So you got the Cubans, you got

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Speaker 3: the Bahamians and Jamaicans. Everybody had their own pressing plant.

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Speaker 1: You had a lot of Jamaican cats who had pressing

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Speaker 1: plants and they basement, you know what I mean. They

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Speaker 1: just pull the wax in there.

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Speaker 3: And they press out a record a plate that night

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Speaker 3: and next thing you know them, Yeah, and and they'll

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Speaker 1: It could take it.

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Speaker 3: Just meagine you making a song in the studio, let's

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Speaker 3: say at three o'clock, and by the evening they'd have

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Speaker 3: made a plate and they could take it to the

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Speaker 3: you know, of course now we got CDs and demos

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Speaker 3: about the pressing plants. Miami, Yeah, Florida itself. I wouldn't

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Speaker 3: just say Miami Fort Lauderdale too. There was a lot

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Speaker 3: you had Suntown Records, you had jam Packed Records.

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Speaker 2: That was pretty tony.

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Speaker 3: They was doing jam Pony. Well, Jampony was more like

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Speaker 3: the mixtape. It was the mixtape guys, you know what

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Speaker 1: The Body of Guard. Yeah, there was a lot of magic.

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Speaker 3: Mike from from Orlando, but but he but he got

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Speaker 1: With Clay d gotcha. Yeah, Magic Mike.

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Speaker 3: Boom another successful independent record label, Cheata Records. Man, they

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Speaker 3: were selling millions of records and back then and Magic

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Speaker 3: was a youngin he was a millionaire before a lot

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Speaker 3: of cats. So that's that's a story that needs to

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Speaker 3: be on to the story man. Yeah, I know he

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Speaker 3: don't really do too many interviews. That's my guy, definitely me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a.

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Speaker 2: Story that I remember the days in the nineties where

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Speaker 2: people was talking about Cheata Records having platinum record.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, bro, no major distribution whatsoever. Yeah, that's a lot.

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Speaker 1: They had to stop that ship though. It was too

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Speaker 1: many of us.

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Speaker 3: Man, the powers that be, the ones who really want

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Speaker 3: to just just control.

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Speaker 2: Things all these years to all these years are all

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Speaker 2: these Russell Simmons, Puffs, Master p Little J or J Prince,

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Speaker 2: we could sure uh no distribution even like we're talking

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Speaker 2: back in the nineties with those with those guys independently. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: why do you think we we couldn't never have no

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Speaker 2: black owned distributed. I mean you say, they they they

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Speaker 2: they start. I mean why couldn't we come together man

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Speaker 2: and create a distribution out that they say?

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Speaker 3: It almost happened. I think it was supposed to be pink.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: They say it was like a few of them had

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Speaker 3: got together and they was about to do that.

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Speaker 2: So it almost happened.

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Speaker 3: But at the same time, though, it would have taken

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Speaker 3: next thing, you know, it doesn't evolve to where the

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Speaker 3: distribution was end up even being.

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Speaker 2: Something that's really break connect for it changes.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because when they cut off all the distribution in

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Speaker 3: So but it's funny because now it seemed like it's

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Speaker 1: Be available on my site.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Cause I actually sing too, so when they come

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Speaker 3: So it's like all that matters man, But like you said,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you really are just always like that. It had

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Speaker 1: Man, believe it or not? How to cut you off?

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Speaker 3: Really, my whole career been like that, because even Shady

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that old classic album started. Yeah, but damned start

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Speaker 3: I said, he, man, this is cool, but we need

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Speaker 3: I can't with shake it. And I told Shi, yeah, like, man,

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Speaker 3: whole shaked song was my idea I did. Actually, he

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Speaker 3: said in an interview before he actually didn't like that song,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, l A Lakers were dancing off of it like

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they Chilians were dancing off that record way after it.

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Speaker 2: Now when when you so, when you was a cheerleader,

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Speaker 2: I wasn't doing nothing to dance transition the way all right, Look,

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Speaker 2: we've been doing this for years been going on.

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Speaker 4: What I do?

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Speaker 1: That was? That was like, wait, and Jerry's so good

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Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, yeah, let's catch you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: He talked about what he.

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Speaker 3: So I just talked about my introduction a toom right,

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Speaker 3: So again started company. First it was a two live

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Speaker 1: Yeah. And then him and Shy the album with the

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Speaker 2: I was like that ship.

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Speaker 1: So then I seen that.

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Speaker 1: So I pull it. But this is when I'm reading album,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all these years, I see his name in that railroad.

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Speaker 3: next one, I moved to Atlanta, Shorty freaking Little Something

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Speaker 1: That early, right right, right, right right.

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Speaker 2: A freak should be a household name. Just that you

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Speaker 3: One thing I have noticed though, I had to I

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Speaker 3: about the low key, low profile ye Wade jury. But

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Speaker 3: definite real diamonds.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, before the.

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Speaker 2: More than night, We're gonna have so many times and

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Speaker 3: Cool Jesus decent pendent cost five thousand back then we're

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Speaker 2: Come on, Yeah, they gonna they gonna think we sound

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Speaker 3: You know, I was flashing a little bit, just kind

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Speaker 3: I'll try to leave the club for everybody.

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Speaker 1: Want everybody to really just know that was my ship.

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Speaker 1: It parked out and whatnot.

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Speaker 3: So but what but one thing I noticed about now

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Speaker 3: this new generation of entertainment business is period as an

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Speaker 3: they can see this interview is still not know Like

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Speaker 3: just with some youngins and of course you know, I

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Speaker 1: Man, what's up? Man too? Man too?

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Speaker 3: And then about an hour later, if I'm sitting in

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Speaker 3: don't having to be DJ too?

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Speaker 1: Man in them niggas Thursday what they go to? Man,

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 1: It's funny, bro, And I mean tripping cause I'm like

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Speaker 1: you see them on camera or whatever, you can identify them.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, people hear the name. But everybody back. I

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Speaker 3: Production like NFL like basketball players on Front Street, they

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Speaker 2: He yeah, that's how producers was.

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Speaker 3: Like that until you know, you got to jump the

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Speaker 3: His brother over there DJing, and and rappers and up

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Speaker 1: Like, is that over the d.

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Speaker 2: It happened at the symphony orchestra somebody the exact same.

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Speaker 1: They're taking pictures like damn, bro, you got me through college.

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, okay, appreciate man. That's but like I said,

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Speaker 2: Just think even gift that curse though. Man, that's a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know, and it's a gift of the curve.

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Speaker 3: But even with athletes, you got to think some athletes

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Speaker 3: You don't know some certain athletes unless the bill are

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Speaker 2: It's been like that the other way around for years.

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Speaker 2: Hey once again, did y'all see you all are sitting

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Speaker 2: here with Jerry Clark aka the legendary Jerry my brother

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Speaker 2: new face superducer to him. We've been having some great,

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Speaker 2: great dialogue, this history. This dude right here is one

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Speaker 2: of the wisest people that I've ever been around. And uh,

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Speaker 2: I want to ask you the question that we've been

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Speaker 2: What do you feel is the state of urban music

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Speaker 1: Too? Who's yeah urban?

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Speaker 2: Because me and you or me and Toobe have had

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Speaker 3: Well, I would say definitely, man, And like I said,

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Speaker 3: I'm far from an old angry guy. Let's keep that

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Speaker 3: just speaking of what it is, it's it's becoming a

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Speaker 3: who's the most popular, Who's the most popular for doing

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Speaker 1: Fights with their baby mama on camera type shit.

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Speaker 3: You know, this whole thing out there with what's the

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Speaker 3: because people are getting popular for the wrong things, that music,

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Speaker 3: and it's not you know, how good of an actor

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Speaker 3: here doing clown ship too.

440
00:20:57,920 --> 00:20:59,640
Speaker 1: So but let me cut you off.

441
00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:01,800
Speaker 2: What if somebody said, well, that's taken me been going

442
00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:04,719
Speaker 2: on because fifty cent rolled off being shot nine eight

443
00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:06,919
Speaker 2: nine times. But what you're saying is that.

444
00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:09,320
Speaker 1: Was that was he had some talent to come along

445
00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:11,199
Speaker 1: with that ship. Yeah he saw his grind.

446
00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:15,040
Speaker 3: Yeah me when jam massa jay, when he was he

447
00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:18,840
Speaker 3: had them previous signing of being with those labels, you know,

448
00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:22,280
Speaker 3: being side of those previous labels. That was from talent,

449
00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:25,479
Speaker 3: that's from the potential that they saw in him as

450
00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:27,160
Speaker 3: an artist, and what he broke.

451
00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:29,639
Speaker 1: You know, the type of songs and his character and

452
00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:35,080
Speaker 1: all that. But you got now, man, it's like cats are.

453
00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:39,800
Speaker 3: It's so based around being a thug and how much

454
00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:42,840
Speaker 3: you know, how who'd have been to prison the longest

455
00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:45,360
Speaker 3: and to this ship to the point where you got

456
00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:47,040
Speaker 3: athletes trying to be thugged out.

457
00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:48,879
Speaker 1: Now athletes to be gentlemen.

458
00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:50,440
Speaker 3: They the one you to see wearing some of the

459
00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:53,240
Speaker 3: flying suits for football, baseball and basketball players.

460
00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:55,320
Speaker 2: They kill us to R and B.

461
00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:58,280
Speaker 1: R and B guys, you know, Okay, yeah, some of

462
00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:00,320
Speaker 1: them have been looked at it soft, but been a

463
00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:00,879
Speaker 1: lot of R and B.

464
00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:05,680
Speaker 2: Guys who proved that they real being out here, like yeah,

465
00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:10,880
Speaker 2: he definitely ain't no Hope Brown.

466
00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:12,560
Speaker 1: But even Brian McKnight, you know, people look at them.

467
00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:15,640
Speaker 3: Hell, you know one month, you know, but he'd get

468
00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:18,280
Speaker 3: out there to celebrity games and go slam ducking like Jordan,

469
00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:20,840
Speaker 3: and then the whord got out like, oh ship, I

470
00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:23,200
Speaker 3: ain't no punk on that court, like you know, and

471
00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:24,960
Speaker 3: the way they say it's kind of like what you thought,

472
00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:26,600
Speaker 3: just because he's an R and B singer that he

473
00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:28,680
Speaker 3: wouldn't have that, you know what I mean.

474
00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:30,520
Speaker 1: So it's like, but now you've got the R and

475
00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:32,439
Speaker 1: B singers trying to be what.

476
00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:34,520
Speaker 2: You're saying in a nutshell, correct me if I'm wrong.

477
00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:37,720
Speaker 2: Is you think it's a more talent less pool.

478
00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:41,920
Speaker 3: It has turned into that, brother, Yeah, you know what

479
00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:48,040
Speaker 3: people you just got to be. I mean, well, it's

480
00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:49,240
Speaker 3: it's a few things I could say.

481
00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:51,480
Speaker 1: Radio stations.

482
00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:54,520
Speaker 3: They have a right to pick and choose what they play,

483
00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:58,920
Speaker 3: and they should unless it's some higher ups, because I

484
00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:01,840
Speaker 3: hear stuff on the radio. Really, man, that's really unappropriate.

485
00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:04,720
Speaker 3: Even when you hear the so called radio ed it,

486
00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:06,680
Speaker 3: it's like, okay, I still hear what they're saying. They're

487
00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:08,960
Speaker 3: still talking about getting it back in blood. Then they

488
00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:12,280
Speaker 3: start trying to get it back and like, okay, so

489
00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:14,840
Speaker 3: y'all want to play this record so bad with all

490
00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:17,439
Speaker 3: this negative content to where y'all keep trying to remix

491
00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:20,479
Speaker 3: it instead of saying, hey man, just from the content

492
00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:21,119
Speaker 3: of this song.

493
00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:23,160
Speaker 1: Just can't play this it's not appropriate.

494
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:25,159
Speaker 3: But they would go out their way to try to

495
00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:29,520
Speaker 3: remix this record and some other person trying.

496
00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:33,960
Speaker 2: To make it excel. How you know from you know,

497
00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:36,480
Speaker 2: when you're young, you just you just but when you

498
00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:39,280
Speaker 2: have kids, you'd be like, man, don't I don't need

499
00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:41,520
Speaker 2: my kids. I just heard somebody saying recent They was like,

500
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:43,479
Speaker 2: what kind of mess I had my kids in the car.

501
00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:45,800
Speaker 2: They was like, whoever the person was had their kids

502
00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:48,080
Speaker 2: in the car. When Drake girl on uh with a

503
00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:49,880
Speaker 2: girl like girls, what was Drake saying?

504
00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:50,720
Speaker 1: Yeah?

505
00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:55,800
Speaker 2: What kind of messages that sending my daughter? Until you

506
00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:59,880
Speaker 2: have children is when you're like, yea, even like you said,

507
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:01,920
Speaker 2: when if you yeah it out or beep it out,

508
00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:02,240
Speaker 2: you still do.

509
00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:05,399
Speaker 3: And then of course everybody saying, oh man, when you

510
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:07,680
Speaker 3: had two live crew, you had this yeah, but yeah,

511
00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:09,560
Speaker 3: they that wasn't a majority.

512
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:11,840
Speaker 1: It was like a two live crew out of every

513
00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:18,560
Speaker 1: ten artists. Now you got everybody who's two live crew plan.

514
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:19,439
Speaker 1: You had BDP.

515
00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,560
Speaker 2: And it goes back to the conversation and we're gonna

516
00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:26,840
Speaker 2: get it. We had your one of your greatest collaborated,

517
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:30,520
Speaker 2: your partner, mister Harris Tip on the show. Yeah, and

518
00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:33,879
Speaker 2: he was saying without putting words in him out and

519
00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:37,879
Speaker 2: I quote that he didn't really see. It really was

520
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:41,960
Speaker 2: all the same from our generation to now. And I

521
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:44,720
Speaker 2: was trying to pretty much the same thing new face.

522
00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:47,719
Speaker 2: We had a balance, We had X Clan, we had

523
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:51,080
Speaker 2: tribe called quest. Yes, we had, uh, you know, we

524
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:52,680
Speaker 2: had we had a bout it. Now, don't get it wrong.

525
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:57,760
Speaker 2: I listened to two short two Live Crew. But at

526
00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:00,639
Speaker 2: the same time we was able to go and and

527
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:04,080
Speaker 2: check out the public and we have public Enemy but you.

528
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,399
Speaker 3: Know and know and know, and they regular and public

529
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 3: Enemy songs was in rotation as well. But now all

530
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:13,359
Speaker 3: the negative songs are getting the most rotation. Anything with

531
00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:17,719
Speaker 3: some good content ain't even making it on the station period.

532
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:21,320
Speaker 3: You got negative ship, all negative songs that's in rotation.

533
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:23,639
Speaker 3: Even when I think of all, I mean, shout out

534
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:28,359
Speaker 3: to Chris Brown. I love Chris Brown's music, but fine

535
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:30,879
Speaker 3: China was one of my favorite songs by him. But

536
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:33,359
Speaker 3: when I hear some of these R and B songs

537
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:34,960
Speaker 3: you know, from him and a few other ones where

538
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:38,719
Speaker 3: it's just so, it ain't even a love song no more,

539
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:40,000
Speaker 3: it's just get you.

540
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,080
Speaker 1: When I se my head, I was in the gas.

541
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:44,280
Speaker 2: Is R and B any love no more?

542
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:46,520
Speaker 1: It ain't no, I don't know, I guess not.

543
00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:49,440
Speaker 3: I mean, but it's such a merger of music what

544
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:54,239
Speaker 3: is really considered, and that's where and you know, right,

545
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:58,720
Speaker 3: you know, of course, yeah, and so this ship but

546
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:01,080
Speaker 3: then of course, you know, you had the between the sheets,

547
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,680
Speaker 3: but it was still a real slick way of letting.

548
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:06,399
Speaker 1: This woman turned off the lights.

549
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 2: Forward to more of our generation with the jagged edge

550
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 2: and the Jodasy because Jodas had some real but it

551
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,160
Speaker 2: was still some smoothed out type player type ship.

552
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:20,560
Speaker 1: You know, it was about love, it was still kind

553
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:24,760
Speaker 1: of induction. But where where is that?

554
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 3: It's like nobody's I heard a few people say this.

555
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:32,040
Speaker 3: It's like it's no really, no gatekeepers, no more. And

556
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,880
Speaker 3: the ones that are there, they don't get it. That's

557
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:35,760
Speaker 3: why sometimes when I.

558
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 1: When I see certain people get positions.

559
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:44,520
Speaker 3: At us as at a laby, what I'd be like,

560
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 3: all right, how did that person get that position?

561
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 1: What I said?

562
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:52,680
Speaker 2: That ship so much?

563
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 1: Bro, I'll be like, yeah, he or she? You know,

564
00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:56,680
Speaker 1: like what did you do? Like?

565
00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:59,160
Speaker 3: And who are you to tell me what you think

566
00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:05,680
Speaker 3: is hot? Let me know something that you your judgment was,

567
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 3: you know, play a part in a lot of these.

568
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:13,399
Speaker 2: Name one fucking song, I can't hear when it's thundering outside.

569
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:16,199
Speaker 2: They can't hear. They can't hear here, they can't hear

570
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:16,679
Speaker 2: the thunder out.

571
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,440
Speaker 3: Piggybacking off your point and you being in these studios.

572
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,200
Speaker 3: Your musical to talent speaks for itself. And have you

573
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:25,480
Speaker 3: ever been offered a label position?

574
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:28,760
Speaker 2: No, that's crazy.

575
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,160
Speaker 1: I'm not good at lying, man, unless I'm in trouble. Man,

576
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:35,879
Speaker 1: that sucks. That's I've never been one of them, you know.

577
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 3: That's such a something type of person. You know, Hey,

578
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:40,680
Speaker 3: after I see hey boy, it's good seeing your poo

579
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:41,200
Speaker 3: boo boom.

580
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 1: But these industry cats, you know, go do dinner tomorrow.

581
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 1: I'm hit you around noon. That's that's it's a better

582
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:50,200
Speaker 1: way to cant. That's a better way to just say,

583
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:51,639
Speaker 1: hey man, a man get home.

584
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 3: Said.

585
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 2: That point, get another one me tomorrow.

586
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:02,720
Speaker 1: You do call them straight crickets, you know what I mean.

587
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,880
Speaker 3: I never and if I hear if an artist come

588
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:08,119
Speaker 3: in and it's just I'm gonna just say, man, you

589
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 3: know you got to do better. So as a CEO

590
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:13,199
Speaker 3: or as an an r man, they might look at

591
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 3: me as somewhat shrewd, because I'm gonna keep it on.

592
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:19,639
Speaker 2: Very what it is, no matter what color the person is.

593
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:21,919
Speaker 2: That that would be your so called boss. You report

594
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:22,439
Speaker 2: to the.

595
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 3: Man.

596
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 2: I'm different the new artists out here now. Speaking of

597
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:31,440
Speaker 2: new artists, artists who you look at now and be like,

598
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 2: I love I like the funk with them. I like

599
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 2: to get in the studio.

600
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:35,359
Speaker 1: Rappers, R and B.

601
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:36,640
Speaker 2: It don't matter.

602
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:41,240
Speaker 3: It could be I love of RB, ship Soul. I

603
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 3: would say Lucky Day her m hm rap ship j Cole.

604
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 1: Uh oh man. It's a few rappers out there now. Man.

605
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 1: Of course you know the Kendricks.

606
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 2: Shoot man, can you imagine with Damn Kendricks.

607
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's crazy to me. Kendrick got a song out

608
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 3: called Bitch I'm in the club. It's a song we

609
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 3: did a long time.

610
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:08,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, you man, just they just got this.

611
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 2: It's a chemistry that you and Tip. I mean, you

612
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 2: ain't never looked at and put your ears around like,

613
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 2: you know, let me find his next. You know you're

614
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 2: older now if you ever.

615
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 1: But but the thing about it, it's almost like.

616
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:26,240
Speaker 3: I've realized, just as far as how fast things move,

617
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:30,720
Speaker 3: I have to reintroduce myself to the new generation of

618
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 3: artists and just people.

619
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 1: I would say every few years.

620
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 3: That's why I don't have no problem getting on podcasts,

621
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 3: whatnot telling my.

622
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 1: Story all over again.

623
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 3: Even if you've heard it before, you're still thousands who

624
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:43,960
Speaker 3: haven't heard it don't know who the hell Tump is, so.

625
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 1: J I d He's dope. It's a few of them.

626
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 2: He from the A two.

627
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 1: But it's funny too, man, that people be a lot

628
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 1: from other police places. Think I know all the rappers.

629
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:02,400
Speaker 3: I never met Future, just met twenty one Savage. I

630
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 3: don't know Gunner. I don't know none of them. None

631
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 3: of the rug Thug. I don't know none of them cats.

632
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 3: I seen Thug in the passing them in the airport

633
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 3: a few times. Yeah, and I think one of these folks, like,

634
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:14,720
Speaker 3: you know, tell them who I was whatnot? But damn, yeah,

635
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 3: I was just speaking to him stress like, yeah, think.

636
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 2: About that new face. They had to tell you who

637
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 2: DJ top is.

638
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of catch on to their history. Man,

639
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 1: they ain't into that, you know.

640
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 3: And they of course, we had the Word up magazine,

641
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 3: We had Source, and we had a lot of magazines

642
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:28,479
Speaker 3: and we could see who's who.

643
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 1: We had MTV raps, we had BT rap C, we

644
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 1: had video.

645
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 2: Sold those hours.

646
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 1: Man, all those out are gone.

647
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 2: Everybody think now that it's take tik I G and

648
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 2: you would think that it would be better than but

649
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 2: we don't have those out and then rushed home to

650
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 2: watch rap sick.

651
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 3: Come on, man, and you got people who still say,

652
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 3: oh man, TV and radio is obsolete.

653
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 1: Dude, I hear you. That sound good.

654
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 3: That's but that's that's not facts. I still think that

655
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 3: as far as us, we still need a late night

656
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 3: TV show, you know, and our version of that, not

657
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 3: even a late nineteen We need American band stand soul

658
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 3: trained type people.

659
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 2: But I got nobody dance on ball just what everybody be.

660
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 2: Everybody being the sex with their phones and ship, you know.

661
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 1: And then you got that trophy from Bulldogs on that one.

662
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I saw that contest and that ship went viral

663
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 3: like second of kid. Really, first of all, I love

664
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 3: I hope you don't wear that outfit anywhere else.

665
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 1: But Bulldogs man.

666
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 2: Our listeners, they don't even know what, so that lets

667
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 2: them know that it's the place that you frequent.

668
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 1: You don't even know.

669
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 2: I just you take it out. I don't even know

670
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 2: what bull Dogs is.

671
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 1: I mean, we got the Georgia Bulldog, but when I

672
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 1: had bull Dogs, that's what I think.

673
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 3: It's the Rainbow Club in Midtown that you want the

674
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 3: contest dancing with some tight.

675
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 1: Little outfit on.

676
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 2: You see this man neon green.

677
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:00,160
Speaker 1: It.

678
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 2: That's what we look and we've been doing this, like

679
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 2: we say, back from the down payment day. Now we're

680
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 2: talking about year.

681
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 3: This this too got speaking about being like ambiguous man

682
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 3: and being behind the scenes.

683
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 1: A lot of people know you.

684
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 3: One question pops in my head, how do you feel

685
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 3: because to my knowledge, you've never done it? Producer beat tag?

686
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 3: Why was there never one? Or how do you even

687
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 3: feel about hearing like you know Mike Will made or

688
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 3: hit Boy like these?

689
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 1: David Banner, how do you know what I thought something?

690
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 3: If I knew that it was going to get to

691
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 3: the point where people could really not be able to

692
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 3: open up a cover and read the credits like they

693
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 3: used to. Like you said, if I knew that was coming,

694
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 3: I would have put tags in my But after I

695
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 3: started hearing.

696
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 1: Them, I was like, I'm not gonna jump on the band.

697
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 1: Yeah you're going. You might hear some of the elements

698
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 1: and say I think that's ye, and do your research tell.

699
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 2: You something your drum certain your drum kicks and certain stands.

700
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 2: I'm like, soon as out here, I'm.

701
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 4: Like, that's oh yeah, yeah, yeah, Like it's Times Studio

702
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 4: with a new another be like like you know, I'd

703
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 4: like you just notice them drums, bro.

704
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 2: They hit so hard.

705
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 1: Man.

706
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 3: But I'm gonna tell you I definitely missed the days

707
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 3: of being able to just open up a CD cover

708
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:27,960
Speaker 3: read all the credits because I used to be wandering.

709
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 2: I used to read that, Yeah everything master.

710
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 1: That.

711
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 2: You can't do that no more, Studio. I used to

712
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:41,480
Speaker 2: look forward to my name in there.

713
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 1: You still can kind of do that because I got

714
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 1: welcome to You still can do that, see that. So

715
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 1: if you open this up, so there's a song came

716
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 1: Oprah and Gale right here.

717
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 2: This this is new Face and produced.

718
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 1: You read that. If your eyes are.

719
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 3: Still my glasses, read your spectic Gail on that second,

720
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:14,759
Speaker 3: Opraen Gael.

721
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:16,920
Speaker 2: Opraen Gail. Should I need to be with both of them?

722
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:17,719
Speaker 1: Yeah.

723
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:19,399
Speaker 3: I used to have a little crush on Gail too, man.

724
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:21,319
Speaker 3: I was like, Hey, I saw the Grammys one time.

725
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:22,760
Speaker 3: We're like, damn, what Gil.

726
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 1: I've seen that Jay Z interview and she's walking around

727
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:26,439
Speaker 1: with whole and Yeah.

728
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 2: Song produced by DJ Tong.

729
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 1: And this came out this year twenty three. I sneak

730
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 1: a few about every year.

731
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 3: He stay active on Hey, Yeah, Open Gale, two chains,

732
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 3: Wayne and Ben the butcher Man, and I think his

733
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 3: is and this connected me to because I remember this

734
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 3: is full circle moment. You did a remix for the

735
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 3: Ludacris and it was two miles per hour featuring players

736
00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 3: circle and players circle feature two chains.

737
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 1: Correct, that's crazy and now full circle for him as

738
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 1: a as a solo boom that is years later. Yeah,

739
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 1: that's but still got the talent.

740
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:11,759
Speaker 3: Eate that what I'm saying, his brother because before that

741
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:13,440
Speaker 3: the NAS lost tapes.

742
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, let me say that. I got to

743
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 2: look at the camera and say this, This gentleman right

744
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 2: here is one of the dopest, most creative. And I've

745
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 2: been around some creative dope ass this dude too, Mann

746
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 2: A lot of times I've been and I can tell you, man,

747
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 2: I've been in all like i'd be like, you know,

748
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 2: as much as I hate to say, because we talked this.

749
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:36,759
Speaker 3: Hard, appreciate it hard. It's is still fun, bro, you

750
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 3: know it's it's started off as a hobby. I always

751
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:42,400
Speaker 3: love music, man. You know, my dad you know, was

752
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 3: singing and whatnot back in the seventies.

753
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 1: The group called m v p S.

754
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 3: And I learned a lot about harmony and stuff like

755
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:50,759
Speaker 3: around four or five years old. Yeah, but literally I

756
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 3: know that I was gonna be at DJing and just

757
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:53,759
Speaker 3: a hip hop.

758
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:54,359
Speaker 1: I just knew.

759
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:56,360
Speaker 3: I was just crazy about music. I was looking at

760
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 3: album covers back in the days and yeah, bruh, and

761
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:01,839
Speaker 3: like say, it's still a hobby, but you know it's

762
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,360
Speaker 3: a business now too, So I actually love it. Like

763
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:07,399
Speaker 3: you know, everybody say, man, you know life is better.

764
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:08,360
Speaker 2: We love what you do.

765
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,840
Speaker 3: Definitely were passionate about So it's totally real fashionate about it.

766
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 3: And it's clear the city of Atlanta loves what you do.

767
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 3: I mean has its own day, has day the proclamation.

768
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, we were there showing up.

769
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 3: Man had solid solid How did that feel to get

770
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 3: you know, received that news from that?

771
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 1: How did you receive the new man? It was dope.

772
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 3: Arm Uh Marcy, she reached out and you know it

773
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 3: was let me know, like, hey, you know, the city

774
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 3: appreciate you.

775
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:40,239
Speaker 1: At first, I was like, you deserve that ship. They said, yeah,

776
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:41,959
Speaker 1: you gotta get all dressed up. You know we're gonna

777
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:45,240
Speaker 1: you know, present it to you and shoot Andre Cassim

778
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 1: and everybody showed up. Man, it was dope. Man to

779
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 1: turnout was dope.

780
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 3: And thanks again, y'all forgiving me that and even everybody

781
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 3: who showed up, all the loved ones DJ.

782
00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 2: He deserves all these flowers, all these accolades. But I

783
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:03,279
Speaker 2: got a question for him. Let's go fuck with him.

784
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 2: Let's get it not fuck would you per se? But

785
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 2: if you had to do an album right now? Tip

786
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 2: o Kanye? Who would you going to do a full

787
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 2: album with? Between them?

788
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 1: Two? Wow, that's heavy.

789
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 2: If you produce every song like he liked to do, Yeah,

790
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:22,479
Speaker 2: Tip of Kanye, you're going to do a whole album

791
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 2: with him? Which right now in twenty twenty four.

792
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:25,400
Speaker 1: Who would it be?

793
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 3: Got had to be Clifford Harris because Tip, because I

794
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 3: get a few people you know, say, asked me when

795
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 3: me and Kanye is you know, going back in or

796
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,839
Speaker 3: if we're gonna ever go back in? But you think

797
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 3: of the masses, Oh man, that's like some dread snoop shit,

798
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 3: everybody want to see you know, me and Tip go

799
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 3: back in and put the album? Why?

800
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 2: Why with all these as I mean, we're not all

801
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 2: because I know he he came on the show and

802
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:53,800
Speaker 2: he spoke about a couple of albums he that he

803
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 2: has coming out. Yeah, and then he had an album recently,

804
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 2: what what creative you all is unmatched?

805
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 1: Man?

806
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 2: Why?

807
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 1: Well? What is it? Man? Is it just?

808
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:07,320
Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you, well, sometimes man, just you know,

809
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 3: when you think of how many years have passed, everybody's

810
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 3: got they thing to do. But of course I could

811
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 3: easily put some time aside and get in with Clifford

812
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:19,880
Speaker 3: and knock out. Actually, I think we can do it

813
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:21,839
Speaker 3: in a month if we just lock in a whole hour,

814
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:23,800
Speaker 3: the whole album in a month time. If we just

815
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 3: get in at least seven hours a day, even just

816
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 3: four days out of a week, the whole album could

817
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:31,919
Speaker 3: be done. But he don't have that kind of time.

818
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 3: You would think he would, but oh he know, he

819
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 3: may not choose to make that type of time. If

820
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 3: we make time for each other, we kick it, we

821
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 3: hang out, whatever. But when it comes to that, and.

822
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 1: Sometimes I have to really had to really remind him

823
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 1: of what made the classics. And that's me really producing,

824
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:56,239
Speaker 1: not just leaving you with beats back to what we said,

825
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:59,879
Speaker 1: not just being sit in there and like and after

826
00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:01,880
Speaker 1: you wrap over track, I go back and build a

827
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 1: track around your vocals. That's what I knew.

828
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:08,880
Speaker 2: That's why you don't know me thorough man. I've been

829
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 2: in there with him while I watch him.

830
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 3: And that's where most of my classes come from. Was

831
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 3: when not just me giving you the vocals and y'all

832
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 3: mix it, and I don't do that, know when you wrap.

833
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:16,839
Speaker 1: Over that back.

834
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 3: Same even with the Mariah Carrescy, I went back and

835
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 3: built the music around her her vocals on the Love

836
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 3: of Your Long Time. Same thing with all Good Life.

837
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 3: Can't tell me that all of them we were after

838
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:32,880
Speaker 3: we did it, we go back and put the finishing touches.

839
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 3: But now it's so fast. And I mean until we

840
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 3: did about nine songs one time and one night, it

841
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 3: was just some of them had versus, some of them

842
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:44,360
Speaker 3: had hooks. But that lets you know that the formula

843
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 3: is still there, but you just got to really sit

844
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 3: down and more recently with you PSC, and then I

845
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:52,719
Speaker 3: think the Boosty Potential, Boosty and Tip album.

846
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 1: They had like two of them on that Booty album,

847
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 1: so you know that fell through the whole. He's just

848
00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 1: saying he needs more.

849
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 3: Even with PSC, I hear what they're doing, but I

850
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 3: think for their age, I would love to get him

851
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 3: some more mature type.

852
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:07,800
Speaker 1: I would love to hear him niggas over some samples.

853
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what Timple sent him, and Country kings Love

854
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 3: likes that more Mac Boney likes the different sounds.

855
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:19,240
Speaker 1: So they're trying to find that balance. Yeah, it's a balance.

856
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 3: When I hear theyself, I can tell they they're still

857
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:23,839
Speaker 3: trying to find it because you know, you got cats

858
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:25,239
Speaker 3: who haven't really done this in a while.

859
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:27,759
Speaker 1: You know, Country haven't been out in the wild. And Tip,

860
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 1: you know Ship Tip got that vac record, is doing

861
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 1: what they do.

862
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:35,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, I act like it hard.

863
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 1: He's wrapping on it. Yeah, that's it hard. So it

864
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 1: was dressed even great to see him evolve and jump

865
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 1: on something like that. So my whole thing is.

866
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 3: Then at the same time too, I try not to

867
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:52,879
Speaker 3: get it to the andundred three thousand type mind state,

868
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:53,799
Speaker 3: but it's always like.

869
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 1: What we're gonna talk about, you know, fit in. But

870
00:40:58,360 --> 00:40:59,880
Speaker 1: now it's like, no, let's just do what we do.

871
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 1: We innovative, We created a sound and a genre.

872
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:06,399
Speaker 3: We could continue doing that on some twenty twenty four

873
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 3: ship now why I was like, yeah, I got a

874
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 3: I got a twenty four version of every hit that

875
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:13,800
Speaker 3: we've had, you know, if you want those elements. But

876
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:16,360
Speaker 3: still on some more updated type shit. I can do

877
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:17,320
Speaker 3: that very easy.

878
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:19,279
Speaker 1: But just time. Man, just gotta make time.

879
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 3: Like I said, everybody's you know, he's way more children

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