1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,200 Speaker 1: All right, are you with me on this? We all 2 00:00:02,279 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 1: stretch the truth from time to time, but for some 3 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:08,400 Speaker 1: it gets out of control, and that includes big shots 4 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:12,800 Speaker 1: in politics, business, and Hollywood. The unbelievable tale of a 5 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 1: hot shot writer for Grey's Anatomy who lied about her 6 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:20,120 Speaker 1: cancer battle and her brother's suicide is what we're talking about. 7 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 1: I'm Patty Steele. A compulsive liar gets nailed. Next on 8 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:34,159 Speaker 1: the backstory. We're back with the backstory. Sure, most of 9 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:37,879 Speaker 1: us tell little lies occasionally. Studies say we do it 10 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:40,839 Speaker 1: maybe twice a day, and if you deny it, you're 11 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 1: probably lying. Usually we do it to look good, or 12 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:47,599 Speaker 1: protect someone's feelings, or because we're scared. But there are 13 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 1: people who really go off the deep end. Some are 14 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 1: surprisingly big names, like a guy we all know about, 15 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 1: Congressman George Santos, who lied about Oh, I don't know everything. 16 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 1: And Elizabeth Holmes, who conned investors out of billions for Thoroughnose, 17 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:07,320 Speaker 1: her startup company that produced a device she said could 18 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:11,119 Speaker 1: diagnose almost any illness it's just a drop of blood, 19 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 1: only it couldn't. And she's in jail. But what about 20 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 1: Elizabeth Finch, who is she? Well, she was a really 21 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 1: respected Hollywood producer writer. She wrote for True Blood in 22 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 1: Vampire Diaries. She was successful, but she wanted more. She 23 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 1: wanted to be famous, and she was willing to tell 24 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:34,959 Speaker 1: horrific lies to get there. So she writes this really 25 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 1: compelling article for l magazine about herself being a TV 26 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:44,399 Speaker 1: writer while undergoing treatment for bone cancer. Hollywood loves her story, 27 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 1: and Grey's Anatomy hires her. She becomes a superstar writer 28 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 1: for the show. Now, she starts using her cancer battle 29 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 1: in storylines for Grays, but it sort of becomes like 30 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 1: an emotional Ponzi scheme. The more she shares, the more 31 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 1: empathy she gets, and the more storylines she has for scripts, 32 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 1: so she invents even more. She claims she'd lost a 33 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 1: kidney and had to abort a baby due to her treatment. 34 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 1: She then started wearing makeup to make herself look sick. 35 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:16,079 Speaker 1: She shaved her head and even complained of losing her 36 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 1: sense of smell all due to chemo. She wore a 37 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 1: fake catheter port and pretended to vomit in public bathrooms 38 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 1: so people thought she was sick. Friends took her on 39 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:30,359 Speaker 1: vacations and put together lavish monthly care packages for her. 40 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:34,360 Speaker 1: Grey's Anatomy celebrates her, even putting her on the show 41 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 1: playing a nurse. The show's creator, Shonda Rhymes, has her 42 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:41,920 Speaker 1: write about her life and her medical issues on shondaland 43 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 1: dot com, but she needs even more so. She shares 44 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 1: other personal traumas, claiming that her brother had sexually abused 45 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:53,359 Speaker 1: her when they were kids and that he'd later committed 46 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 1: suicide because of it. She said she had a friend 47 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 1: who was killed in the twenty eighteen mass shooting at 48 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 1: the Tree of Life Synagogue in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, and that 49 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 1: the FBI had allowed her into the crime scene to 50 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 1: remove her friend's remains. At one point, Elizabeth throws herself 51 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 1: a huge fortieth birthday party. She rents a warehouse in 52 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 1: la with lavish catering for hundreds of guests. She says 53 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 1: the party is also celebrating the remission of her life 54 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:27,079 Speaker 1: threatening cancer. She told the crowd that her doctors from 55 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 1: the Mayo Clinic were there but didn't want to be identified. 56 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 1: But after ten years of lies, it started to unravel 57 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 1: when she got married to a woman who for several 58 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 1: years pushed her to come clean. When Elizabeth didn't, her 59 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 1: wife finally went public with the truth and eventually left, 60 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 1: taking her kids with her. At Grey's anatomy, Elizabeth was 61 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 1: put on administrative leave, investigated by Disney's HR, and later 62 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 1: she lost her job. She finally admitted she never had 63 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 1: any kind of care answer and that her brother is 64 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 1: actually a doctor and he is alive and well living 65 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 1: in Florida. She says it was just a lie that 66 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 1: got bigger and bigger, and she calls her lis a 67 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 1: maladaptive coping mechanism, which I guess sounds better than compulsive liar, 68 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 1: says Elizabeth. Some people drink to hide or forget things. 69 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 1: Drug addicts try to alter their reality. Some people cut themselves. 70 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 1: I lie. She says she just wanted to be seen 71 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:32,719 Speaker 1: and heard, and that it all kicked in after a 72 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 1: knee injury. At the time, friends were helpful and sympathetic, 73 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 1: but when the knee healed, she really missed the attention 74 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 1: and she invented the cancer story to get it back. 75 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 1: It's been rough for her since it all went public. 76 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:50,799 Speaker 1: She's not allowed to see the kids. She says. Family 77 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 1: and friends called me a monster and a fraud and 78 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 1: said that all I'll ever be known for and soon 79 00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 1: more truth would come out about me. What does she 80 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:02,839 Speaker 1: did now? She says she fills her days with long 81 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 1: walks and a lot of therapy. A friend says, her 82 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 1: lies were so detailed and so deep. She built her 83 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 1: career around her cancer and made millions off of it, 84 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 1: and she didn't care who she dragged into it. Part 85 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 1: of the problem is we live in a world where 86 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 1: a good liar gets rewarded right. A politician gets elected, 87 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:28,160 Speaker 1: a business person gets money like crypto king Sam bankman 88 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 1: Fried or Ponzi schemer Bernie Madoff, who can forget him? 89 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 1: Both of those guys cost billions for investors. And finally, 90 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 1: in Hollywood, a well crafted lie about your own illness 91 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 1: and pain gets you money, empathy, and a chance to 92 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 1: be seen in the spotlight, at least for a little while. 93 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:04,239 Speaker 1: I'm Patty Steele. The Backstory is a production of iHeartMedia 94 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 1: and Steel Trap Productions. Our producer is Doug Fraser. Our 95 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 1: executive producer is Steve Goldstein of Amplified Media. We're out 96 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:15,039 Speaker 1: with new episodes twice a week. Thanks for listening to 97 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:18,359 Speaker 1: the Backstory. The pieces of history you didn't know you 98 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:19,039 Speaker 1: needed to know