1 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:35,240 Speaker 1: The one Bill's Live presented by Kalida Health. 2 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:43,239 Speaker 2: Good Afternoon, Bill's Mafia. Happy to have you with us 3 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 2: for the second of three straight road games as the 4 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 2: three and one Buffalo Bills take on the home standing 5 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:52,880 Speaker 2: three and one Houston Texans. Handoff goes to Acres, right 6 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 2: through a gigantic home and into the end zone for 7 00:00:56,440 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 2: a touchdown. Nobody touched cam Acres fifteen yard touchdown run. 8 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:05,959 Speaker 2: Back to pass, looking deep down the middle on a 9 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 2: post pattern, He's got Collins caught it to fifteen and 10 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 2: in for the touchdown. 11 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 3: He got behind Rasoul Douglas. 12 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:17,679 Speaker 2: Took the loan setback, gets the handoff up the middle, 13 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 2: fighting to the goal line and he's in. 14 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 3: James Cook with a five. 15 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:26,319 Speaker 2: Yard touchdown run and the Bills are finally in the 16 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 2: end zone. Back to pass and it's complete to Covid 17 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 2: gets away from a tackler thirty five thirty, twenty five, 18 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 2: twenty fifteen ten five and Healed supersaults into the end 19 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 2: zone for a touchdown forty nine yards. The rookie sticks it. 20 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:45,680 Speaker 3: In the end zone. 21 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 2: Stroud looking deep over the middle, and it's picked off 22 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 2: by Terrell. 23 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 3: Bernard in the nineteen yard line. 24 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 2: Terrell Bernard read ZJ. Stroud like a book and the 25 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 2: Bills half the football shrouded, fakes, pumps, pocket collapsing. 26 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 3: He fuffled the football. 27 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 2: Dorrian Williams jumped on and it's still loose to the 28 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 2: Bills habit. Yes they do, says the referee, Dorrian Williams. 29 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 2: All over the football do want smooth force the fuffle 30 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 2: that by Ferguson, hold by Martin, kick by basses up 31 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:24,920 Speaker 2: and it is good. And with three eighteen left, the 32 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 2: Bills have come all the way back from a twenty 33 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 2: to three deficit to tie the score. Here at twenty 34 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 2: here's the snap hold his down kick is long enough 35 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 2: and it is good. At the gun Kaimi Fairbear wins 36 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 2: it for the Houston Texans with a fifty nine yard 37 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:50,359 Speaker 2: game winning field goal. Twenty three to twenty is your 38 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 2: final score. That is your game. Rewind presented by connect 39 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 2: Life and official sponsor of the Buffalo Bills. Sign up 40 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:06,799 Speaker 2: to donate at connectlife dot org. Wow. Bills once again 41 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:10,920 Speaker 2: struggle and get off to a slow start on offense. 42 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 2: They score just three points in the first half for 43 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:20,239 Speaker 2: the second consecutive week. Their defense down five starters, plays 44 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 2: an unbelievable second half in which they force a turnover 45 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:27,359 Speaker 2: on downs to take points off the board and then 46 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 2: get two takeaways in the fourth quarter and it helps 47 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 2: them tie the game at twenty, but ultimately they fall 48 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 2: as a final series deep in their own territory, goes 49 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 2: horribly wrong and it gives the Texans another opportunity in 50 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 2: regulation to win the football game. 51 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, and this is as bad as these are bad 52 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 4: numbers as we've seen from Josh Allen since his rookie year, right, 53 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 4: I mean, oh yeah, this is as bad as it gets. 54 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 3: He really did and. 55 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 4: Run game was okay, and I mean cook was like 56 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 4: twenty for eighty two something like that, so it didn't 57 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 4: look bad on paper, but just couldn't get first downs. 58 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 4: They were non existent on third down. 59 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 2: For five in the second half on third three. 60 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:20,280 Speaker 4: Of thirteen on the game from on third down just terrible. 61 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 4: And then they got a fourth down as you saw 62 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 4: on the highlights the fourth and five to Keon Coleman. Great, 63 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 4: they picked they went forward on fourth and five, which 64 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 4: is amazing. They got it and it turned it into 65 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 4: a touchdown. And then you know, earlier in the game 66 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:38,160 Speaker 4: you saw Josh Allen going on a hot read to 67 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 4: Keon not expecting it hits him in the back of 68 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:42,839 Speaker 4: the head. So you get both ends of the spectrum 69 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 4: from Keon Coleman the great forty nine yard touchdown on 70 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 4: a little hitch route and then you know it goes 71 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 4: off the back of his head because he's not miscommunicated 72 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:51,600 Speaker 4: with Josh. Same thing on the other side of the 73 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 4: ball from the rookie cole Bishop play did some pretty 74 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:55,039 Speaker 4: good stuff. 75 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 3: Gives up the deep. 76 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 2: Touchdown, also missed about three Yeah, I. 77 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 4: Missed some tackles, So you all the entire spectrum from 78 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:04,039 Speaker 4: the Bill's rookies who were actually in the game on 79 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:09,040 Speaker 4: the other side of the ball. I thought, once again, 80 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 4: like we saw in Week one of the regular season, 81 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 4: if you remember the Arizona game, and this time, both 82 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 4: offense and defense, they struggled out of the gate like 83 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:22,040 Speaker 4: the game plans did not work, and it took them 84 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:25,159 Speaker 4: till halftime to get it under control, to get it 85 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:29,599 Speaker 4: back on track. These two coordinators, Bobby and Joe seemed 86 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 4: to you know, they they're great at adjusting and say okay, 87 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 4: now we got it. But coming out of the gate 88 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 4: game plans haven't been good. I'll say this too. I 89 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 4: didn't think about this until, you know, a few minutes 90 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 4: before we came on the air. You know you're kind 91 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 4: of like, okay, let me when you take a deep breath, 92 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 4: this is kind of where I thought they'd be three 93 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:52,480 Speaker 4: and two. I thought, Man, it's you know, we got 94 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 4: all these question marks, all these new people were not 95 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:55,239 Speaker 4: gonna come together. 96 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 3: But this is not how I thought it was gonna look. 97 00:05:57,600 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 2: In terms of where the wins loss came. 98 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:02,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, coming out of the gate and flying high three weeks, Man, 99 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:07,040 Speaker 4: let's go right. And then now it's and sitting after 100 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 4: five games at three and two, I'm like, okay with it, 101 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 4: except that it looks like we're going downhill, not uphill. 102 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. 103 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:14,119 Speaker 5: Right. 104 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:16,719 Speaker 2: I think we said for most of the offseason leading 105 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:19,719 Speaker 2: up to the regular season, with all of the roster turnover, 106 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 2: which was higher than it had been in recent years, 107 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 2: that we were expecting them. I know I said this personally. 108 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 2: I said, look, I think in the first month of 109 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 2: the season, they're gonna stub their toe here in a 110 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 2: couple of places. But I think come mid season they 111 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 2: may start to hit their stride. If they can pull 112 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:40,720 Speaker 2: all those pieces together, if you can get some development 113 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:43,719 Speaker 2: for some young players, and then come November and December, 114 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:46,159 Speaker 2: you know, they might be they have the potential to 115 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:48,040 Speaker 2: be an even better team than they were last year 116 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 2: because they're going to be younger and more athletic. So 117 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 2: if those players develop and give you something, you know, 118 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 2: by the time you make the turn towards the second 119 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 2: half of the season, it could be promising. But yeah, 120 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 2: I was kind of expecting them to be somewhere around 121 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:03,479 Speaker 2: here after five games. 122 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'll say this too, and I get it. 123 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 3: Five five. 124 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 2: Much higher expectations after the three and oh start. 125 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, and you got five starters out on defense and 126 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 4: Khalil Shakir was out on offense. 127 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 2: So okay, well those aren't excuses, they're just facts. Yeah, 128 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 2: and player availability is. 129 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 4: Maybe you're not going to be as highly efficient, particularly 130 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 4: on defensive side of the ball, as you thought you 131 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 4: might be, even with you know, the new faces that 132 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 4: are now injured. But yeah, we're all sitting there going man, 133 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 4: and I don't know, I guess most of you heard. 134 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 3: I was watching the game in Chicago. 135 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll get into that a little bit later. 136 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 4: All of us were, you know, that last drive inside 137 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 4: their own five. 138 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 3: I get it. 139 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 4: You put the ball in the hands of your best 140 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 4: player and Josh uh but man, oh man, I thought 141 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 4: for sure they were going to run that football on 142 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 4: the first down. When you get the you get a 143 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 4: penalty on on right, which was the key on which 144 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 4: was declined. I'm like, ah, okay, so not gonna run it. Well, 145 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 4: they didn't run it, and they didn't they didn't complete anything. 146 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 4: I'm like, ugh, you know it was. It was ugly 147 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 4: right there at the end and Josh throwing it up 148 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 4: for grabs to Holland. Yeah, the protection was not good yesterday. 149 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 4: I thought Josh was running. He got to the point 150 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 4: where he was nervous and was running when he didn't 151 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 4: need to run, and he got hit on this throat 152 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 4: to Samuel or the otherwise you would think Samuel was standing. 153 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:35,200 Speaker 4: There was some separation and Josh got hit by the 154 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:37,959 Speaker 4: you know, Dion got pushed back into Josh's lap and 155 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 4: he got hit right before he released it. 156 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 3: So that didn't work. 157 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 4: All that aside, I would have been okay with handing 158 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 4: it off three times, see what you could get. But 159 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 4: I'm also I see that I see what you know 160 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 4: Joe Brady saw trying to listen let's put it in 161 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 4: the hands of Josh see if he can make something happen. 162 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 4: But that's a guy who was having a really rough day. 163 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, he was nine of twenty seven before that drive 164 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 2: and finished nine of thirty, which is the lowest. Well, 165 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 2: I'll read it right off the sheets, so we get 166 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 2: it right here. So first of all, it's his first 167 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:15,959 Speaker 2: career game with a sub forty completion percentage, his fewest 168 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 2: completions in a game with twenty plus pass attempts in 169 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 2: his career, and his thirty percent completion percentage is the 170 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:25,439 Speaker 2: lowest in a game with thirty plus pass attempts by 171 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:29,319 Speaker 2: any player in the NFL over the last thirty seasons. 172 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 2: You have to go all the way back to Week ten, 173 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 2: twenty fourteen to find anybody close. Cincinnati's Andy Dalton completed 174 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 2: thirty point three percent of his passes ten years ago. 175 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:45,200 Speaker 2: So it was it was a bad game by any 176 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 2: measure for Josh. And look, there are other contributors to 177 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:54,439 Speaker 2: the shortcomings of the performance on offense. Joe Brady has 178 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:56,319 Speaker 2: to come up with a better plan at the start 179 00:09:56,520 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 2: and probably call a better game. Pass protection has gone 180 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 2: downhill since Week three in precipitous fashion. The guard play 181 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 2: has not been good the last two weeks in pass protection, 182 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 2: and it is readily noticeable, and you know you're facing 183 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 2: a really good Jets front coming up this week on 184 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 2: Monday Night. So pass protection has been an issue, and 185 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 2: Josh has had a problem with this, and we've talked 186 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:31,440 Speaker 2: to Greg Cosell about this on many occasions since he's 187 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 2: been in the league, and this has been persistent through 188 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 2: his seven years of playing quarterback for this team. He 189 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 2: leaves the pocket prematurely, very often when he doesn't have to, 190 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 2: and he did it again yesterday, and maybe it's because 191 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 2: there was a lot of pressure early in the game 192 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 2: and it sped up his internal clock, But there are 193 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 2: times where there are receivers again running open underneath, and 194 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 2: he's trying to take the big shot down the field 195 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:01,960 Speaker 2: and he avoids. The last two weeks, he has avoided 196 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 2: some easy button answers underneath, instead going for all the 197 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 2: marbles down the field when that's the low percentage play 198 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:11,680 Speaker 2: to make. And on a day where not a lot 199 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 2: was going right for the offense, you could make the 200 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 2: argument that the easy button throws were probably the best 201 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:19,559 Speaker 2: way for this offense to stay on schedule. There were 202 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 2: also instances when he did leave the pocket and had 203 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 2: nothing but green grass in front of him to run 204 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:27,680 Speaker 2: and pick up a first down and keep drives alive, 205 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 2: and he did not do that either. He chose to 206 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 2: throw the football instead, and with limited success. I think 207 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 2: going into this week's game, if he has green grass 208 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 2: in front of him, he'd better take it, because the 209 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:43,959 Speaker 2: Jets make it difficult. You have to earn every single 210 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:46,080 Speaker 2: yard you get. So if you have ten yards of 211 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:48,839 Speaker 2: running room, take the ten yards on the ground and say, 212 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 2: thank you very much, were first and tenth. Gotta do 213 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 2: that this week. 214 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:53,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, you've got to do it. 215 00:11:55,200 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 4: This when you look at how bad those numbers are 216 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 4: and at the end of the game, and you pointed 217 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:05,840 Speaker 4: this out as well, and you were right too about 218 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 4: what the Texans do on their next to the last possession. 219 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 3: It's a butcher. I can't believe that this was a 220 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:14,079 Speaker 3: three point game. 221 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:18,959 Speaker 2: Well, the Bills should have never gotten the ball back 222 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 2: at the end, that's right. They should butchered the end 223 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 2: of the game. The Texans, so they basically force the 224 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:30,359 Speaker 2: Bills to get rid of all three of their timeouts 225 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:33,440 Speaker 2: as they're trying to preserve clock, hoping they get the 226 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 2: ball back. The Bills use their last time out with 227 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:41,080 Speaker 2: one point fifty two left in the game, and it's 228 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 2: a third and ten for the Texans and a gumba 229 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 2: wale leaks out of the backfield, catches a pass, goes 230 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 2: eleven yards, gets the first down and stays in bounds. 231 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 2: Really really smart play like gets past the first down marker, 232 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 2: gives himself up in bounds. 233 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 3: Yeah. 234 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 2: Clock continues to run. Now it's first and ten at 235 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:06,960 Speaker 2: the forty four. A gumbowale up the middle for two yards. 236 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 2: Clock keeps running. Second and eight at the Bills forty two. 237 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 2: At forty nine seconds, they snap the ball. Stroud throws 238 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 2: to Dalton Schultz on the sideline and he runs out 239 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 2: of bounds and stops the clock for Buffalo. With forty 240 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 2: four seconds left, it's third and five at the Buffalo 241 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 2: thirty nine. All CJ. Stroud has to do is run 242 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 2: forward on a sneak and get two yards to the 243 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 2: thirty seven ye and you're looking at a fifty five 244 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 2: yard field goal for Kayimi Fairbairn, who is seven of 245 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:47,080 Speaker 2: eight on fifty yarders on the season, including one earlier 246 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 2: in the game. 247 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 3: And you'll do it with no time left. 248 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 2: Instead, he drops back to pass, he gets blitzed. He 249 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:58,239 Speaker 2: throws it to no One intentional grounding fourth and fifteen 250 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 2: from the Buffalo forty nine. They butchered me the game. 251 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 4: Why did they drop back to pass right there? I 252 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:08,079 Speaker 4: have no idea even a quarterback sneak is a better eye. 253 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 2: Because here's the thing. It's it's forty four seconds on 254 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:14,680 Speaker 2: third and five. You sneak it forward for a yard 255 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 2: two yards. It's a fifty five yard field goal attempt. 256 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 2: The clock's running, you let it go down and it's 257 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 2: under forty seconds, so you let the clock run down 258 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 2: to three seconds, use one of your three timeouts. Here 259 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 2: comes fairbaron to kick it, and if he doesn't make 260 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 2: it, it's overtime. 261 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 4: Right Instead, they give it back to the Bills, who'd 262 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 4: throw it three times. 263 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, we won uped them. Hold our beer. 264 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 4: You not only gave us the ball back without getting 265 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 4: the point the game winning. All I had to do 266 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 4: is whatever both those I mean and the Bills were 267 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 4: worse at than the Texans were. They the end of 268 00:14:57,120 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 4: that game on both sides of it. Now that the tech, 269 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 4: since it all goes away because the kick goes through, 270 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 4: a fifty nine yarder goes through, so it all goes 271 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 4: away for the Texans, and the Bills are sitting there 272 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 4: with egg on their face after stopping the clock three 273 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 4: times on a run play, can't get a yard from 274 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 4: their inside their five yard line, so they got a 275 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 4: short long snap to uh to Sam Martin, he can't 276 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 4: get a good punt. 277 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 2: It pends in thirty four yards. 278 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 4: He puts in thirty four yards in presto change. Oh 279 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 4: you're you're dead in the water. 280 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 2: Oh sorry, he punted fifty six. 281 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 3: Yards, fifty six yards. He put it fifty. 282 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 2: Six forty one, and then Robert Woods returned at thirteen yards, 283 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 2: so he kicked it far. Yeah, So it's the net 284 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 2: was not good. The net was well, the net was 285 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 2: forty three. They're pretty good. So yeah, it's Sam Martin 286 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 2: a good day. 287 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 3: Yeah. 288 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 2: It flipping the field. 289 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 3: Yeah. 290 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 4: Well yeah, it's a rough day when you punish your MVP. 291 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 3: Yeah. 292 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 4: And so it was man, oh man, this is this 293 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 4: is why I say I get it in the big picture. Okay, 294 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 4: all right, you know it's we lost two straight and 295 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 4: it's like one of them was bad. This one makes 296 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 4: you feel even worse almost than the than the Baltimore. 297 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 4: I can't even at the Baltimore loss seems like a 298 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 4: million years ago. Now this loss makes you feel sick 299 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 4: because you played horrible football and you got a chance 300 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 4: to win it and he gave it away. 301 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 3: Now that's that's really hard. 302 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 4: And I get it to Sean sitting and Sean mcderm's 303 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 4: taking the blame for this, and it's his responsibility. 304 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 3: I get it. 305 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 4: We've seen that, and I've Brownie and I've been chewing 306 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 4: this up all morning. In the thirteen second game, they 307 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 4: coached not to lose. They coached like they didn't trust 308 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 4: their players to go up, play an honest defense and 309 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 4: keep it in front of them and hold them back. 310 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 4: There they drew up, they threw them back, gave him 311 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 4: a twenty yard play, gave him another twenty yard play, 312 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 4: and all of a sudden they're in field goal range. 313 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 4: Broome that you lose the game. It's like they didn't 314 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 4: trust their player in that thirteen second game. Remember when 315 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:04,880 Speaker 4: Leslie Frasier was the press, you know, we all remember it. 316 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:10,400 Speaker 4: This time they trusted their players too much, like they 317 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 4: go and he trusted his coordinators too much, said listen, 318 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 4: go out, get a first down. Let's go run this 319 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:17,479 Speaker 4: clock down. Let's get us out of our own end. 320 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:19,159 Speaker 4: And I get it too. In the first play out 321 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 4: of there, say let's see if we can get a 322 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 4: drive starter. Maybe if we do get a positive play, okay, 323 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 4: then we got all right, let's see if we can 324 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:27,720 Speaker 4: get into field goal range and try a sixty five 325 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:28,920 Speaker 4: yarder at the gun. 326 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 3: You know what I mean, that kind of thing. 327 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:34,359 Speaker 4: But when the get a penalty and you're backed up 328 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 4: and say all right, now let's hand it off. Well, 329 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 4: you know, Joe Brady doesn't want to do that. Sean 330 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 4: gives it to his coordinator, say all right, let's do 331 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:46,159 Speaker 4: what you do. Let's see if we can get it. 332 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 4: Brady calls a play. He thinks Canon Josh is throwing 333 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:55,400 Speaker 4: for the moon. Dude, just get a first down. So, 334 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:57,679 Speaker 4: on the one hand, he got the thirteen second game 335 00:17:57,680 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 4: where they didn't trust their players, this one where they 336 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 4: gave the player, there's the chance, and now they they 337 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 4: they puke. So now you punt it. You get a 338 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 4: fifty four yard punch. Sam Martin does his jo you 339 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:10,880 Speaker 4: can't get down there. Robert Woods does a really nice job, 340 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 4: and you end up losing the game on both ends 341 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:16,119 Speaker 4: of the coaching spectrum, one where you didn't trust your 342 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:17,920 Speaker 4: players enough. On the other one you trusted your players 343 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 4: and your coaches too much. And you know Sean's getting 344 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 4: hammered for this. He's got big shoulders. But come on, Josh, 345 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:29,360 Speaker 4: you don't throw the ball on whatever. 346 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:29,880 Speaker 3: I mean. 347 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 4: You got to hand the ball off after that first 348 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 4: drive starter that didn't wasn't a drive starter. Let's take 349 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 4: what we can get. Make them use their timeouts, and 350 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 4: they would have getten down into what inside of twenty seconds? 351 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's safe to say ten to twelve seconds. 352 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:47,120 Speaker 4: Right, you give give him inside a twenty seven time 353 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:50,199 Speaker 4: and no time and they would have had no timeouts. 354 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:54,359 Speaker 4: Big difference. And that's you know. So we've been on 355 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:57,879 Speaker 4: this roller coaster all over the all over the cosmos. 356 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 4: I will losing games all different. 357 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 2: I will submit this one bit of information in an 358 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 2: effort to make Bills fans feel a little bit better. Okay, 359 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:08,400 Speaker 2: because the Bills this is now back to back losses 360 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:11,919 Speaker 2: here to fall to three and two. In each of 361 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:17,639 Speaker 2: the last five seasons, the Bills have had one set 362 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 2: of back to back losses. Even in their twenty twenty season, 363 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:25,160 Speaker 2: when they went thirteen and four, they had one set 364 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:28,119 Speaker 2: of back to back losses. I'm not indicating this is 365 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 2: a thirteen and four football team. My point is this 366 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 2: has happened every season each of the last five seasons 367 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:40,159 Speaker 2: since twenty nineteen. They lose back to back games, and 368 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 2: then it doesn't happen again. Will that be the case 369 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 2: again this year? Who knows? It is a different team 370 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 2: than the one that has played for the better part 371 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 2: of the last five years. I will give. 372 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 3: You that there's a lot to fix. 373 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 2: But the point is we've seen this before, so you know, 374 00:19:57,640 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 2: don't start. 375 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, and they win division every year of those years, 376 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 4: so you know, And then and this just then, all 377 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:08,119 Speaker 4: of a sudden, the AFC East went to the AFC League. 378 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:11,959 Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, look at where we're sitting. The Jets 379 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 4: look horrible. 380 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:12,960 Speaker 6: There. 381 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers is throwing it to the other team through 382 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 4: three picks. Yesterday, the Dolphins are on fire. 383 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:20,879 Speaker 2: Huh against a good Viking. 384 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 4: That's true, but still the Dolphins are going downhill in 385 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 4: a rolling dumpster fire. 386 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 2: And the Patriots are running right next to them. 387 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 4: And the patri there and the pain they're trying to 388 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 4: catch the Patriots going downhill. The Patriots are thinking about 389 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 4: now putting Drake may in and sacrificing him. 390 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:41,680 Speaker 2: Which is foolish because they just lost their starting center 391 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:44,159 Speaker 2: for the season David Andrews this past week. 392 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 3: On the worst offensive line that already. 393 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 2: He is the only thing they had worth their assault 394 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 2: up front. 395 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:52,200 Speaker 4: So that that's the saving grace, you know, right now, 396 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:55,359 Speaker 4: that's keeping the Bills relevant in the division. So but 397 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 4: now you're playing really the best team in the division. 398 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 4: The best other team in the division is the Jets, 399 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 4: and the Bills have a game lead on them. 400 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:04,359 Speaker 2: Yep. 401 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 3: It's yeah, that's the only good thing. And I'll say 402 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 3: this too. 403 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 4: We were coming into this thing, we said, we said 404 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 4: at the beginning of the show, yeah, okay, we're not 405 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 4: We're gonna be slow out of the gate. 406 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 3: But this is not how we thought it was. 407 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 4: Look right, we looked so good in three were okay, 408 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 4: here we go. 409 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:23,479 Speaker 2: The way they looked for the first three games, they 410 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 2: were number one, number one scoring offense in football, number one, 411 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:34,920 Speaker 2: number one over differential and it raised expectations, probably prematurely, 412 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:39,679 Speaker 2: but we all thought, oh, they've already pulled this all together. 413 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 2: With all the newness on this team, maybe they'll be 414 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:46,399 Speaker 2: even better than we anticipated. So we're learning now that 415 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 2: it was premature and they have a lot of things 416 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 2: that they have to fix right now. We are taking 417 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 2: your phone calls though, at eight oh three zero five 418 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 2: point fifty one eight eight eight five fifty two five 419 00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 2: fifty the number to get on board as we're asking 420 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 2: for your biggest takeaways from the bills lost to the Tecans. 421 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:04,439 Speaker 2: And I have a general idea of where a lot 422 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:05,920 Speaker 2: of these thoughts are going to go. And that's fine. 423 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 2: You're entitled to your opinion, so yeah, have at it. 424 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 2: At eight o three oh five fifty, got open lines 425 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:13,359 Speaker 2: for you, and I see some phones ringing there, but 426 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 2: we'll get started here. 427 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:18,119 Speaker 4: Buffalo is tied with Green Bay for number one and 428 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:23,160 Speaker 4: turnover differential in the entire league. That those two, those 429 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 4: two fourth quarter turnovers. I was sitting there watching with 430 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 4: all the old guys and we were all calling, we 431 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:30,919 Speaker 4: need to turnover so bad. Now Now we get one, 432 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:34,680 Speaker 4: we get two. We got two right when they needed 433 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:37,159 Speaker 4: it in the fourth quarter the sack strip fumble on 434 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 4: Stroud and their own end and then the Bernard Yep intercept, 435 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:46,119 Speaker 4: the Bernard interception was spectacular. 436 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 3: He that that. 437 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:51,359 Speaker 4: Right there is why the an illustration of why the 438 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 4: Bills need their guys healthy. 439 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 3: That is a. 440 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 4: Play that an experienced middle linebacker makes. Nobody else on 441 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 4: this team has the film study, the prep, or the 442 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 4: understanding to make that play that Terrell Bernard made in 443 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:05,119 Speaker 4: that spot. 444 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 3: He saw it came. 445 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:11,120 Speaker 4: Off the shallow cross, turned back and got back into 446 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:14,120 Speaker 4: Straus's vision without him seeing it and was ready for it. 447 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:18,119 Speaker 4: It just it was a really veteran, savvy, great play 448 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 4: by middle linebacker. 449 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:22,119 Speaker 3: And that's why you need guys like that healthy. 450 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 2: Yep. 451 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 3: And you know right now the Bills are down five starters, so. 452 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 2: Hopefully that improves. This week, we'll have to see what 453 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:34,440 Speaker 2: at Oliver's situation is with his hamstring injury. We'll see 454 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 2: if Taylor rap can get himself out of concussion protocol, 455 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 2: and we'll see if Taron Johnson is ready to finally return. 456 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 2: He's been out of the lineup since Week one with 457 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 2: a cracked bone in his forearm. So let's go to 458 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 2: the phones, and leading us off today is Mark in 459 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 2: West Seneca. What do you got for his? 460 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:51,119 Speaker 3: Mark? Here? 461 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:55,399 Speaker 7: On One Bill's Live, Hey, gentlemen, frustration and frustration, frustration, 462 00:23:56,359 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 7: just some general observations that I'm sure pretty obviou is 463 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:05,920 Speaker 7: the Curtis Samuel situation and Mike Edwards situation not being 464 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:08,199 Speaker 7: a part of this team at all up until this 465 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 7: point really really are hurting us very badly, Brownie. I 466 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 7: think I don't know if you remember, but in the 467 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 7: summer I did call you about the safety position and 468 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 7: expressed that I was very uncomfortable with where they were 469 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:24,359 Speaker 7: at going into the season. If they stayed with what 470 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 7: they had, nothing against the guys they had, but I 471 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 7: didn't think it was deep enough. And you said, well, 472 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 7: we don't have the money, which was pretty obvious at 473 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 7: the time, but I was hoping Brandon would work his 474 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 7: magic and do something. 475 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was bullish on Mike Edwards Mark, if you remember, 476 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,440 Speaker 2: and we haven't seen him yet for some reason, they 477 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:42,879 Speaker 2: don't want to put him on the field. 478 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 7: I know, and that was part of why I brought 479 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 7: that up with both of Samuel and Edwards. If you 480 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:53,639 Speaker 7: guys could enlighten us, if you can at all, why 481 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 7: is the situation what it is? Has Mike Edwards athletic? 482 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:01,959 Speaker 7: We've fallen off the cliff not comprehending the defense, and 483 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 7: we were led to believe that he played in similar defenses, 484 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 7: so he'd be able to pick up and run right 485 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 7: from the beginning. I know he was hurt all the camp, 486 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 7: which really set him back, but by now you would 487 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:14,399 Speaker 7: think he should be able to get on the field. 488 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 7: And then I'll move on a couple other things. Why 489 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 7: I mean the other thing, two tight ends. We're running 490 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 7: twelve personnel, where we always say, well, causes matchup problems 491 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:28,160 Speaker 7: for the defense. Why we're running twelve personnel right now? 492 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 7: We might as well take Dawson knocks off the field 493 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 7: and put alec Anders in that. 494 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 2: Tight end and that sometimes and. 495 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:40,120 Speaker 7: They well, I don't understand either. Okay, is Dawson what's 496 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 7: going on with him? I don't consider him a bad 497 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:46,159 Speaker 7: offensive player, and in some instance is a good option. 498 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 7: He's shown he can get down the field. He's certainly 499 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 7: not a three yards up the field and turn out 500 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,440 Speaker 7: to the sideline and toss him a short pass. He's 501 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:58,119 Speaker 7: much more than that. I wanted to ask you guys 502 00:25:58,160 --> 00:25:59,919 Speaker 7: before the game, but I could not get on there. 503 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 5: In the week. 504 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 7: Did you think possibly they would go to something along 505 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:07,119 Speaker 7: the lines of two running backs in the backfield and 506 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:11,359 Speaker 7: let James Cook go in motion rather than sending him 507 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 7: out in the slot and have him stationary to run 508 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:19,159 Speaker 7: receiver routes. And wouldn't he be a better option in 509 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:22,200 Speaker 7: my opinion he is than even putting mvs on a field. 510 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 7: Another signing I did not like and don't understand. He's 511 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:29,639 Speaker 7: not helping the team whatsoever. Okay, and last thing, and 512 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:31,159 Speaker 7: then I'll shut up and I'll hang up and let 513 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 7: you guys comment this. Davante Adams, Amari Cooper talk. Please, 514 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 7: let's stop it. Please, let's stop it. Neither one of 515 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:43,400 Speaker 7: those guys make us a super Bowl winner or contender. 516 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 7: In my opinion, we've got one. Two to two's a three, 517 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 7: and I believe two fours. You take two receivers for 518 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 7: defensive players, and you on the way to rebuilding your 519 00:26:54,640 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 7: defense and possibly having some offensive talent at receiver. So please, 520 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 7: and I know Brandon doesn't do it, but please do 521 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 7: not use any of those assets. Brandon, Thanks, guys. 522 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:10,199 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a lot in there, obviously. 523 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:10,440 Speaker 8: Yeah. 524 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 4: The Mike Edwards absence from the lineup and even being 525 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 4: active on game. 526 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:15,119 Speaker 3: Day is puzzling. 527 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 2: Was active yesterday? 528 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:21,119 Speaker 4: Yeah, Okay, because Taylor Rapp was injured. Yeah, athletically, No, 529 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:21,880 Speaker 4: I think he's fine. 530 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 3: Athletically. 531 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:24,919 Speaker 4: He was injured early in camp and we saw it, 532 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 4: and he was also nicked during the offsea. 533 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 2: He missed the entire offseason. 534 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:33,160 Speaker 4: Maybe there's maybe there's some residual catching up he's still doing. 535 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 4: But this is a guy who played what maybe was 536 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 4: it ten games at the end of the season last 537 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:39,679 Speaker 4: year for Kampasyan. 538 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:42,480 Speaker 2: Cook is the starting free safety for the Kansas City Chiefs. 539 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 2: He had a season ending injury, I want to say 540 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 2: in like week nine, ten eleven, somewhere in there. Edwards 541 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:53,720 Speaker 2: came in, played admirably in a very good defense, was productive. 542 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:56,280 Speaker 2: I think he even had an interception in the playoffs. 543 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:59,199 Speaker 2: He actually got hurt in the divisional playoff. He got 544 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:02,240 Speaker 2: a concussion in the first half of the Divisional playoff 545 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:04,920 Speaker 2: against the Bills. But he did come back for the 546 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 2: AFC Title Game and the Super Bowl and played admirably 547 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 2: in the back end for the Chiefs. And I saw 548 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,639 Speaker 2: him as a free agency option because he was a 549 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 2: backup for the Chiefs. They were tight against the cap, 550 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 2: and I thought he would be an affordable option for 551 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 2: the Bill. Sure enough, they sign him, and I was 552 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 2: bullish on him winning the starting job, but I can 553 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 2: only guess that all the time he missed put him 554 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,880 Speaker 2: behind and he's playing catchup. 555 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 3: Now. 556 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:37,360 Speaker 2: Does Bishop's performance open the door a crack to give 557 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,400 Speaker 2: Edwards a shot, or does Rap come back from concussion 558 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 2: protocol and make it a moot point this week? I 559 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 2: like Edwards. I think he is a more athletic safety 560 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 2: than Damar Hamlin. I think he's a more anticipatory player 561 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:56,720 Speaker 2: than Damar Hamlin. Nothing against Damar, but that's just my 562 00:28:56,800 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 2: opinion of Mike edwards skill set. So I don't know. 563 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 2: We'll have to see where it goes and what the 564 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 2: coaches decide. They watch these guys every day, every snap 565 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 2: in practice. I don't have that ability to do because 566 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 2: I'm usually in here doing the show with Steve Right. 567 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 4: And I'll say this too, I'll leave Brownie's evaluation of 568 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:19,320 Speaker 4: Edwards alone that he's he knows as much as I 569 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:21,240 Speaker 4: do about it. The two tight end the twelve people 570 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 4: with Knox. I'll say this on the Kinkaid. They do 571 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:26,960 Speaker 4: have some stuff going on with this twelve personnel. The 572 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 4: problem is, I mean Knox when they're in twelve personnel. 573 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 4: Kinkaid is always the one option, right because in the 574 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 4: passing game anyway, right. 575 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 2: But that's not I'll say that Knox couldn't be an option. Also, 576 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:36,640 Speaker 2: if you. 577 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 4: Look back at the Kinkaid twenty six yard of that 578 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 4: he got him down inside the five late in the game, 579 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:43,959 Speaker 4: there's a really nice play Josh found him. 580 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 3: Dawson. Knox is alone down the left sideline, yep. Alone. 581 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 4: If Josh sees it, it's a touchdown. He didn't, So 582 00:29:56,160 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 4: it's not like Knox is irrelevant out there, but he's 583 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 4: not at the top of the pecking orders. You can 584 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 4: imagine it'll be Khalis Shakir when he's out there and Kinkate. 585 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:07,960 Speaker 2: Let's Cook. Let's think about this though, Steve. 586 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 4: Okay, But on the plays like that, it's up to 587 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 4: Josh to you know, when they scheme it open, it's 588 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 4: up to the QB to get it there and take advantage. 589 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:19,720 Speaker 2: Yes, I said this when I was on This Morning 590 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 2: with Jeremy and Joe on WGR here in Buffalo this morning. 591 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:27,240 Speaker 2: James Cook has to be a featured weapon in your 592 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:30,800 Speaker 2: passing game. He is the most dynamic athlete on offense 593 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:35,720 Speaker 2: on the roster besides Josh Allen, and Josh is back 594 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:39,800 Speaker 2: there throwing it. So James Cook, I agree with Mark 595 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 2: one hundred percent, should be featured in this passing game. 596 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 2: He can get separation and look, I know he's had 597 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:48,040 Speaker 2: a couple of drops here and there over the last 598 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:52,840 Speaker 2: couple of years. He is your most dynamic route running weapon. 599 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 2: Along with Khalil Shakir. Those are your two best route 600 00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 2: running weapons in the passing He has to be featured 601 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:04,240 Speaker 2: in the passing game more going forward, and the pecking 602 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 2: order should really And look, what you're trying to discover 603 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:11,960 Speaker 2: here in your passing game is familiarity and continuity to 604 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,280 Speaker 2: get back on track because you are way off track 605 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:17,480 Speaker 2: right now. There is it's so disjointed. It was so 606 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:21,160 Speaker 2: disjointed yesterday, I mean three or fourteen on third down. 607 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:25,000 Speaker 2: So who is who represents continuity in the passing game? 608 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:30,960 Speaker 2: James Cook, Khalil Shakir, Dalton Kinkaid, and Dawson Knox. Do 609 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:33,960 Speaker 2: people forget he was a nine touchdown tight end three 610 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:34,520 Speaker 2: years ago? 611 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:36,920 Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean yeah, And. 612 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 2: There is something to be said for familiar targets for Josh. 613 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:43,680 Speaker 2: Those guys should be getting more of the snap count 614 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 2: share going forward to try to get this passing game 615 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:47,120 Speaker 2: back on track. 616 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 4: And here's the thing too, it doesn't have to always 617 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:55,720 Speaker 4: be Cook, Shakir, Kinkaid, Knox. It could be Shakiir Knox. 618 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 4: It could be Shakir Cook, Kincaid. Now it can be 619 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:01,040 Speaker 4: in any order you But those are the four guys 620 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:04,080 Speaker 4: you're gonna lean on heavily. And I agree with Brownie, 621 00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 4: you've got to get that out there. The guy the 622 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:11,200 Speaker 4: target share. Obviously, when you when you're nine, when you're 623 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 4: nine for thirty, you twenty one incompletions on the day. 624 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 2: That's just to paint the picture. Snoop Huntley for the 625 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 2: Dolphins was eighteen of thirty four and Jacoby Brissette was 626 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:30,360 Speaker 2: eighteen of thirty one. Yesterday in the fifteen to ten games, 627 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 2: they had twice the number of completions. And you're gonna 628 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 2: tell me that Jacoby Brissette has better people to throw 629 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:39,720 Speaker 2: to than the Bills. Yeah, no way. 630 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 3: I'll say this too. 631 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 4: You know, when you talk about Davante Adams, a Mari 632 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 4: Coop and all these trade for a big, big, bad 633 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 4: wide receiver and getting to spend the money, spend the castle, 634 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:50,920 Speaker 4: get to get him. Here's the thing I I still 635 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 4: and I know this is a really unpopular opinion today. 636 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 4: I still believe in this group. But I'll say this. 637 00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:59,040 Speaker 4: They gotta be healthy. They got to have shak out there, 638 00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 4: and the offensive line's got to play a little better 639 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:02,240 Speaker 4: up front. 640 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,719 Speaker 3: The decisions. 641 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:08,440 Speaker 4: Yes, if you had if you had Jamar Chase, and 642 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,720 Speaker 4: you had you know the guy from Houston that we 643 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:15,880 Speaker 4: saw just yesterday, who's the big time receiver from Houston, Nicolete. 644 00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:18,000 Speaker 4: If you had Nico Collins and Jamar Chase out here, 645 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:21,000 Speaker 4: Yeah you know t Higgins or Yeah, you're gonna play 646 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 4: you'd love to have those guys. It's not gonna happen. 647 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 4: I still have I still have faith in the guys 648 00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 4: they got in the room. But they've got to have 649 00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:35,320 Speaker 4: pass protection and they got to be healthy. Every guy 650 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:40,920 Speaker 4: out there, Shakir, Kincaid, Knox, Cook, Coleman, they've all got 651 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,680 Speaker 4: to be out there. If if you take one of 652 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:47,040 Speaker 4: those guys out there, it's a significant drop. And the 653 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:49,920 Speaker 4: pass protection's got to be one hundred percent all the time. 654 00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:52,320 Speaker 3: If that that none of that was there yesterday. 655 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:55,480 Speaker 4: They weren't healthy and their past protection suffered yesterday, and 656 00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:58,040 Speaker 4: and you got a performance like you did. But that's 657 00:33:58,040 --> 00:33:59,720 Speaker 4: what it's gonna take this year. 658 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:01,960 Speaker 2: Break time for us. Here more of your phone calls 659 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 2: when we come back on a Buffalo Football Monday here 660 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:06,280 Speaker 2: on one Bill's Live, presented by Colidea Health, It's Buffalo 661 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:25,479 Speaker 2: Bills Radio, all right. This week's Player of the Game 662 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:29,840 Speaker 2: is Bill's defensive tackle Dwayne Carter. Had three tackles against 663 00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,440 Speaker 2: the Texans, two for loss, along with a quarterback hit. 664 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:35,760 Speaker 2: Player of the Game is presented by Wegmans, the official 665 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:38,320 Speaker 2: tailgate headquarters of the Buffalo Bills. Get your Dion Dawkins 666 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 2: Buffalo Snow Crunch serial exclusively at Wegmans while supplies last. 667 00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:46,200 Speaker 2: A portion of the proceeds will benefit Dion's Dreamers, an 668 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:51,080 Speaker 2: official foundation of Dion Dawkins. I mean that play there 669 00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:54,880 Speaker 2: when he tackled Acres coming out of the backfield on 670 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,360 Speaker 2: a checkdown. If he doesn't make that tackle, it's a 671 00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:02,879 Speaker 2: fifty yard play. There was nobody after Dwayne Martin because 672 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,319 Speaker 2: the Bills actually, I think had a man coverage call there. 673 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:08,799 Speaker 2: Everybody's backs turned, they're all running down the field, and 674 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,200 Speaker 2: that would have been like a fifty yard catch and run. 675 00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:13,719 Speaker 2: If Dwayne Carter didn't make that tackle, but I know 676 00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:15,440 Speaker 2: he only had three tackles. It felt like he had 677 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,040 Speaker 2: a bigger impact on the game than that. I was 678 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,040 Speaker 2: stunned to see he was only credited with three tackles. 679 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:20,160 Speaker 2: I thought he did even more than that. 680 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:20,759 Speaker 3: And here's the thing. 681 00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:23,440 Speaker 2: Really had a nice encouraging game. That's a rookie there. 682 00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:25,440 Speaker 2: I played really heady football. 683 00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:30,920 Speaker 4: I saw also, my guy Javon Solomon ran the running 684 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:32,440 Speaker 4: back down from behind a lad in the game just 685 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:35,040 Speaker 4: to prevent a first down and ended up getting the 686 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:36,440 Speaker 4: ball back later on. 687 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:37,879 Speaker 3: Here's the thing. 688 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:43,360 Speaker 4: I yes, I am as down as everybody is about 689 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:48,280 Speaker 4: the game yesterday. Somebody reminded me on social we always 690 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:50,680 Speaker 4: say it, and it was true yesterday. The Bills don't 691 00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:54,400 Speaker 4: get beat they beat themselves. Yep, And man do we 692 00:35:54,760 --> 00:36:01,040 Speaker 4: all agree on that today. But I do feel some 693 00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:03,960 Speaker 4: guys on this team are You're starting to because of 694 00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:05,880 Speaker 4: the injuries and because of the you know, they're getting 695 00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:07,920 Speaker 4: guys on the field. I know that the reps are 696 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,279 Speaker 4: gonna help guys like Cole Bishop. He's not gonna play 697 00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:12,960 Speaker 4: like that for the rest of his career. That guy's 698 00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:14,520 Speaker 4: gonna get better and better and better. 699 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:16,440 Speaker 2: It's gonna be some hard lessons and yeah there are. 700 00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:18,200 Speaker 3: And we saw him yesterday, right. 701 00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:21,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, three miss tackles and a blown coverage. 702 00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:23,319 Speaker 4: Right, So then you and you got you know, you've 703 00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:26,400 Speaker 4: got guys like Terrell Bernard getting back on the field 704 00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:30,160 Speaker 4: making some plays like he did, Guys like Carter coming 705 00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:34,400 Speaker 4: in and just you know, starting to play, Javon Solomon 706 00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:35,240 Speaker 4: starting to play. 707 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:39,440 Speaker 2: I wrote solid performers. Here's the list, Cook Bernard, Dorian 708 00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:41,359 Speaker 2: Williams who's played out of his mind in the last 709 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:45,799 Speaker 2: three weeks, Dwayne Carter Smoot Yeah, and Sam Martin had 710 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,839 Speaker 2: a day. Sam Martin flipped the field several times when 711 00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:50,280 Speaker 2: the offense was stuck in neutral. 712 00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:54,920 Speaker 4: And I'll say this, so there's I still have I 713 00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:56,880 Speaker 4: know where the wheelhouse of his coaching staff is. 714 00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:57,640 Speaker 3: I know this too. 715 00:36:57,800 --> 00:36:59,880 Speaker 4: They're gonna get hammered, you know, And there's gonna be 716 00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:02,120 Speaker 4: a ton of snarky comments about how they handle the 717 00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:02,640 Speaker 4: end of the game. 718 00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:03,239 Speaker 3: And I get it. 719 00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:07,000 Speaker 4: But the one thing they have done always is develop players. 720 00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:10,040 Speaker 4: So with the with the injuries that we've had and 721 00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,240 Speaker 4: the and the start they got off to this season, 722 00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:16,319 Speaker 4: I think by the end, I'm still very bullish on 723 00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:17,640 Speaker 4: what this team's gonna be able to do. 724 00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:19,719 Speaker 3: This is kind of and it's hard for. 725 00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:22,319 Speaker 4: Me to say it like this because it sounds like 726 00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:26,880 Speaker 4: crazy after that game yesterday. But I still think this 727 00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:29,799 Speaker 4: team's got a chance to be really good at the 728 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:30,640 Speaker 4: end of the season. 729 00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:32,080 Speaker 3: Uh. 730 00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:36,400 Speaker 4: They certainly got some stuff to fix. But these bumps 731 00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:39,719 Speaker 4: and these games like this going forward are gonna gonna 732 00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:42,480 Speaker 4: yield benefits for these young players going forward, and they're 733 00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:46,239 Speaker 4: gonna learn from it. They're gonna conversations the best. The 734 00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:48,960 Speaker 4: time when players get best is when they go out 735 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:52,360 Speaker 4: and they play. And then they've got some coaches in 736 00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,480 Speaker 4: which these coaches seem to be really good at going 737 00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:57,480 Speaker 4: back and saying, hey, what were you thinking here? Why 738 00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:59,800 Speaker 4: were you thinking that? Get your mind right, You should 739 00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:02,040 Speaker 4: be thinking this for this reason. 740 00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:03,080 Speaker 3: Guys. 741 00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:06,640 Speaker 4: Soak that stuff up and those are lessons that really 742 00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:09,400 Speaker 4: stick with you and they put you in different. 743 00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:11,960 Speaker 3: Positions for yeah, especially after losses. 744 00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:16,960 Speaker 4: So I'm I'm still I still feel really good about 745 00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:20,120 Speaker 4: this team, this particular group, this particular version of the 746 00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:22,919 Speaker 4: Buffalo Bills going forward. They got some stuff to fix, 747 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:25,280 Speaker 4: no question about it. And that goes you know, coaching staff, 748 00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:29,640 Speaker 4: all the whole thing. But I want to see him 749 00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:34,279 Speaker 4: get healthy and I want to see him. I want 750 00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:35,919 Speaker 4: to see him play, and there's no quaint. You gotta 751 00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:38,480 Speaker 4: play better, Yeah, gotta play better. But I think they will. 752 00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:40,319 Speaker 4: I think they will because we've seen him play better 753 00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:44,200 Speaker 4: than this, even earlier in this season. So you know, 754 00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:46,880 Speaker 4: whatever step backwards they've taken, they got to they got 755 00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:49,600 Speaker 4: to gather it up and get them pushed in the 756 00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:51,600 Speaker 4: right direction. I think the coaching staff will do that. 757 00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:54,399 Speaker 4: But I still think there's some there's a lot under 758 00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,800 Speaker 4: the hood in on both sides of this offense and defense. 759 00:38:56,880 --> 00:39:00,160 Speaker 4: But man, oh man, first and foremost, please just get healthy. 760 00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:02,200 Speaker 2: Let's go back to the phones and to John and 761 00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:02,839 Speaker 2: Niagara Falls. 762 00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:06,200 Speaker 9: What do you got, John, Yeah, I just tuned in 763 00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:09,440 Speaker 9: and I was wondering if there's any update on Josh Allen, 764 00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:12,799 Speaker 9: what injury it was, and how's he doing. 765 00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:15,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, he said after the game that he hit his 766 00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:18,400 Speaker 2: shoulder and rolled his ankle on that hit that he took. 767 00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:24,600 Speaker 2: He passed the independent Neurological consultant exam for you know, 768 00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:26,759 Speaker 2: a head injury because he hit his head on the 769 00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:31,200 Speaker 2: turf too. I mean, we won't get an update until 770 00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:34,200 Speaker 2: Sean McDermot addresses the media at four o'clock this afternoon. 771 00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:38,600 Speaker 2: So that's kind of where it stands. Yeah, so that's 772 00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:40,560 Speaker 2: kind of where we're at. Let's go to Tommy on 773 00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:42,719 Speaker 2: the west side. Let me pull him up here. What 774 00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:43,560 Speaker 2: do you got for us? Tommy? 775 00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:46,480 Speaker 10: Hey, guys, how are you good? 776 00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:47,640 Speaker 11: Yeah? 777 00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:51,480 Speaker 10: I know we've all had better Mondays. So why do 778 00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:56,120 Speaker 10: we keep abandoning our run game in the first half. 779 00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:58,440 Speaker 10: I mean, I understand Josh is one of the most 780 00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:02,200 Speaker 10: dynamic players with the ball in his hand, but I 781 00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:05,120 Speaker 10: think James Cook is pretty much proven that he is. 782 00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:06,359 Speaker 11: Also, it's not. 783 00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:09,759 Speaker 12: The number two most dynamic player with the ball in 784 00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:12,520 Speaker 12: his hand on our whole team. I just we keep 785 00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:16,600 Speaker 12: getting away from the run and it's just it seems 786 00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:19,520 Speaker 12: like it's not. The whole point of our run game 787 00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:21,680 Speaker 12: was to open up the middle of the field for 788 00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:25,680 Speaker 12: Kink to go run streaks or SATs or anything up 789 00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:27,880 Speaker 12: the middle and open it up because they have to 790 00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:30,160 Speaker 12: pack the box on us. And when we get away 791 00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:32,880 Speaker 12: from that, all those options seem to be taken away. 792 00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:36,560 Speaker 12: I know you guys feel similar, but I just think 793 00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:39,120 Speaker 12: it's glaring at us that we just need to get Cook. 794 00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:39,440 Speaker 13: The ball more. 795 00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:43,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I respect what you're saying, Tommy. Just looking at 796 00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:46,440 Speaker 2: the numbers at halftime, the Bills threw at eighteen times, 797 00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:50,000 Speaker 2: Cook ran it eleven times. They had thirteen total carries, 798 00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:53,960 Speaker 2: counting a ten yard scramble by Alan and Curtis Samuel 799 00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:57,520 Speaker 2: with a loss of one yard on a carry. So 800 00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:03,720 Speaker 2: thirteen runs, eighteen passes. To me, that's not abandoning the run, 801 00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:05,879 Speaker 2: you know. And at the end of the game, where 802 00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:07,400 Speaker 2: are they. I mean, I know they threw late in 803 00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:11,920 Speaker 2: the game, but there are twenty eight runs and thirty 804 00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:15,480 Speaker 2: pass attempts. I mean, that's not abandoning the run. With 805 00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:16,240 Speaker 2: all due respect. 806 00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:17,319 Speaker 3: Well, I say this too. 807 00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:19,360 Speaker 4: And maybe late in the first half they did, you 808 00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:22,120 Speaker 4: know they were they were down twenty to three. Yeah, 809 00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:25,960 Speaker 4: so you know, you can you can forgive them if 810 00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:27,560 Speaker 4: they feel like they're a little bit of a sense 811 00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:29,440 Speaker 4: of urgency to move the ball a little quicker than 812 00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:33,480 Speaker 4: they did. Certainly that that first drive after halftime, they 813 00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:34,839 Speaker 4: got a nineteen yard run right. 814 00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:35,359 Speaker 3: Out of the gate. 815 00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:41,000 Speaker 4: Then they got the big play to to Kincaid over 816 00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:42,759 Speaker 4: the middle for twenty They got a nineteen yard run 817 00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:44,680 Speaker 4: and twenty six yard pass to Kincaid and there was 818 00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:48,160 Speaker 4: another one in there as well somewhere, so you know 819 00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:51,319 Speaker 4: they had to they were trying to they were trying 820 00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:53,040 Speaker 4: to move it quick to get back in the game 821 00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:55,440 Speaker 4: before halftime a little bit. So I can get that. 822 00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:56,080 Speaker 3: But you're right. 823 00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:00,000 Speaker 4: The running game has been a crucial part of their 824 00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:03,560 Speaker 4: success this year offensively, and they they do need to 825 00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:05,200 Speaker 4: stay with it as much as they can. 826 00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:08,799 Speaker 2: Let's squeeze Mike and Mississippian here before we go to 827 00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:11,520 Speaker 2: break hold on. What do you got for us? 828 00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:11,719 Speaker 3: Mike? 829 00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:16,080 Speaker 14: Hey, well, I wanted to ask, Oh boy, I almost 830 00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:19,000 Speaker 14: ran a red light and sorry about that. I was 831 00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:22,520 Speaker 14: gonna ask Steve if he remembered. I'm sure he does. 832 00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:27,600 Speaker 14: The nineteen ninety two season where we started out like Gangbusters, 833 00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:31,640 Speaker 14: four games, thirty plus points a game, and then we 834 00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:36,359 Speaker 14: got trounced by Miami thirty seven to ten. Then we 835 00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:40,839 Speaker 14: lost the next week. How do you what did the 836 00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:43,799 Speaker 14: Bills do at that time in the locker room to 837 00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:47,799 Speaker 14: turn that around? And are there lessons from that that 838 00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:49,400 Speaker 14: this team could learn from? 839 00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:53,280 Speaker 2: All right, good question, man, Thanks for it. Drive safely please. 840 00:42:54,080 --> 00:43:00,960 Speaker 3: Nineteen ninety two. You got me, bro, I can't. 841 00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:04,680 Speaker 2: Go back generally speaking, bouncing back from like back to 842 00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:07,399 Speaker 2: back gasses, which this team has done very good at 843 00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:08,040 Speaker 2: the last five. 844 00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:10,600 Speaker 4: But nobody wants to Nobody wants to hear the answer. 845 00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:12,919 Speaker 4: I'm you know, to tell you the truth. Nobody really 846 00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:15,400 Speaker 4: wants to hear the answer to that because it's pretty 847 00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:16,440 Speaker 4: mundane and boring. 848 00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:19,239 Speaker 2: You gotta go to work, well, and that's exactly what 849 00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:20,799 Speaker 2: Josh said after the game. You just got to go 850 00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:21,439 Speaker 2: back to work. 851 00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:24,200 Speaker 4: You gotta you gotta go back and say, is there 852 00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:29,040 Speaker 4: something that's that Is there one thing that has been 853 00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:32,520 Speaker 4: our bugaboo? Have we not pass protected? Have we not 854 00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:35,600 Speaker 4: run blocked? Have we not gotten enough turnovers? Have we 855 00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:37,920 Speaker 4: not stopped their run? Have we not stopped their pass? 856 00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:40,839 Speaker 4: Have we turned the ball over too much? If there's 857 00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:44,440 Speaker 4: if there's a generalized one thing or two things that 858 00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:48,600 Speaker 4: are bugging you or that is causing you to play poorly, yeah, 859 00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:52,359 Speaker 4: fix those. But for the most part, it's going in 860 00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:57,160 Speaker 4: and looking at yourself and saying, listen, what like For instance, 861 00:43:57,160 --> 00:43:59,640 Speaker 4: we talked about this early in the show. If you've 862 00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:01,840 Speaker 4: got to coaching staff in a last couple of games 863 00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:05,680 Speaker 4: out of the gate, we've done nothing offensively and nothing defensively. 864 00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:08,680 Speaker 4: Our game plans out of the gate have not been good. 865 00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:11,680 Speaker 4: We have not had early success. Let's see what we 866 00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:15,280 Speaker 4: can do to fix that and then not stick ourselves 867 00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:17,880 Speaker 4: into a hole. That may be one thing they could do, 868 00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:19,880 Speaker 4: and that's on the coaching staff and stuff. But then 869 00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:21,840 Speaker 4: also the players are looking to themselves going, listen, we 870 00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:25,680 Speaker 4: got to tighten this up. What mental mistakes are we making, 871 00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:27,640 Speaker 4: Let's not make those this week. Let's make sure we're 872 00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:30,040 Speaker 4: buttoned up. I mean, it's a mundane thing. You gotta 873 00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:32,279 Speaker 4: go back to work and work harder and do what 874 00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:35,960 Speaker 4: you do better. Nobody wants to hear that because it's 875 00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:38,560 Speaker 4: not very sexy, but it's that really that simple. 876 00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:41,359 Speaker 2: Now break time for us here when we come back, 877 00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:43,880 Speaker 2: more of your phone calls here on a Buffalo Football 878 00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:46,160 Speaker 2: Monday on One Bill's Live, presented by Klidea Health. 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In the third quarter against 885 00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:23,920 Speaker 2: the Texans, facing a fourth and five, Bill's wide receiver 886 00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:27,960 Speaker 2: key On Coleman had a career long forty nine yard touchdown. 887 00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:31,760 Speaker 2: This play marked the team's longest play on fourth down 888 00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:35,759 Speaker 2: since New Year's Eve of two thousand and six went 889 00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:39,200 Speaker 2: against the Patriots. No, it was against the Ravens. JP 890 00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:42,440 Speaker 2: Lossman threw one to Lee Evans for fifty two yards. 891 00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:44,040 Speaker 3: There you go. 892 00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:45,680 Speaker 2: It was a big fourth down play. 893 00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:48,080 Speaker 4: It's exactly what they needed at the time they needed it. 894 00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:52,840 Speaker 4: The fourth going forward on fourth and five was to me, 895 00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:57,120 Speaker 4: it was ultra aggressive and uh, you know they showed 896 00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:58,880 Speaker 4: this on that I thought for a minute they were 897 00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:00,719 Speaker 4: gonna call it back and say out of bounce. But 898 00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:03,800 Speaker 4: his heeled they say, never came down, never touched the ground, 899 00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:07,799 Speaker 4: and I get it. The razor's edge. Yeah, it was 900 00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:11,600 Speaker 4: the razor's edge. And you know that's neither here nor 901 00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:14,640 Speaker 4: there now, but there he goes it was. It was 902 00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:17,839 Speaker 4: a great, great throw and catch. The ball came out 903 00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:22,480 Speaker 4: on time, and I'm yeah, it's a It's just a 904 00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:25,399 Speaker 4: disappointing result to a game where the Bills were down 905 00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:28,919 Speaker 4: twenty to three. Think how differently everybody would feel, if, 906 00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:32,200 Speaker 4: you know, if they win that game after being down 907 00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:33,000 Speaker 4: twenty three. 908 00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:36,239 Speaker 2: Happy for Keon though he had about sixty family and 909 00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:39,600 Speaker 2: friends at that game. That's probably the closest game to 910 00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:45,560 Speaker 2: his home in Opalassus, Louisiana, and they drove in. His 911 00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:49,480 Speaker 2: mom was there, his agent was there, and sixty of 912 00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:52,600 Speaker 2: his closest family and friends were there. So nice that 913 00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:54,759 Speaker 2: he got a touchdown, just unfortunately they didn't get to win. 914 00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:56,520 Speaker 2: Let's go back to the phones, though, and to Kevin 915 00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:58,560 Speaker 2: in Hamburg next, what do you got for us? Kevin? 916 00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:03,120 Speaker 15: Thanks for taking I don't want to beat the time 917 00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:05,600 Speaker 15: management dead horse, so I'll say that right away because 918 00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:07,920 Speaker 15: I'm sure it's going to be beating the rest of 919 00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:10,680 Speaker 15: the next couple of days until you start getting ready 920 00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:14,400 Speaker 15: for the jet game. But the thing that's frustrating isn't 921 00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:17,319 Speaker 15: so much to the mistakes it's made, is that John 922 00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:20,279 Speaker 15: McDermott has been to coach this team the eighth year 923 00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:24,120 Speaker 15: and he's still making the side of time management blunders 924 00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:26,680 Speaker 15: that he should have made maybe the first year we 925 00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:30,600 Speaker 15: slaved the drought dragon. And yet the other coach this 926 00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:32,759 Speaker 15: is his first year. Now the Bills would have won 927 00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:35,400 Speaker 15: that game. The Texas said, well, he's not used to that. 928 00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:38,360 Speaker 15: Even he's only his first year. He should be making 929 00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:42,120 Speaker 15: an eighth year is a little bit. He's the saying, 930 00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:44,640 Speaker 15: I'm sure someone agreed, that's a little bit too long 931 00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:47,960 Speaker 15: to make those kind of bad blunders at the end 932 00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:49,960 Speaker 15: of a game in eight years that he should have 933 00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:52,680 Speaker 15: only made maybe first, second, third, and maybe fourth year. 934 00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:55,919 Speaker 15: That's the worst. It's just like, I don't know why 935 00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:59,520 Speaker 15: he just keeps getting not worse, but not much better. 936 00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:02,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, get what you're saying, Kevin, thanks for the call. 937 00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:06,800 Speaker 2: You're not wrong. I mean I know that Sewn McDermott 938 00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:10,640 Speaker 2: as a head coach, prides himself on getting better because 939 00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:13,400 Speaker 2: he practiced what he practices what he preaches, which is 940 00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:18,799 Speaker 2: try to be your best self, you know, while you're 941 00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:21,000 Speaker 2: in a role here with the Bills organization, and he 942 00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:25,399 Speaker 2: follows that to the letter himself. He constantly, painstaking Lee 943 00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:29,200 Speaker 2: methodically reviews his own performance as much as anybody else's 944 00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:33,080 Speaker 2: inside this building, and he strives to get better because 945 00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:35,680 Speaker 2: he knows how important his role is to team success. 946 00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:38,880 Speaker 2: Didn't happen yesterday. He put his full faith in his 947 00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:42,680 Speaker 2: offensive coordinator and his quarterback to be aggressive at a 948 00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:46,120 Speaker 2: time late in the game, and neither of them came 949 00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:49,319 Speaker 2: through for him. Now, that's ultimately on him because he 950 00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:52,680 Speaker 2: made the decision to trust those men. But there it is. 951 00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:55,799 Speaker 2: You're the head coach, it does fall on you. And 952 00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:57,160 Speaker 2: to his credit, he took the blame. 953 00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:01,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, and he's he's got That's what you sign up 954 00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:03,080 Speaker 4: for as a head coach as part of the job. 955 00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:04,640 Speaker 3: I get it, and you know, and. 956 00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:09,239 Speaker 4: When the players and I'll say that, and I don't 957 00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:10,600 Speaker 4: really want to talk about it too much. 958 00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:12,200 Speaker 3: I mean a lot of people know. 959 00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:15,320 Speaker 4: I watched the game yesterday with Marv Levy and Thurman 960 00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:18,560 Speaker 4: Thomas and Darryl Talley and Jim Kelly and Corneis Bennett. 961 00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:19,399 Speaker 2: Uh. 962 00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:22,160 Speaker 4: We all watched the game together in Chicago with Marv 963 00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:25,200 Speaker 4: and Man watching it with those guys. Uh, they're the same. 964 00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:28,600 Speaker 4: And it's interesting too. They they're kind of like me. 965 00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:36,200 Speaker 4: They're very hesitant and almost never never blame the coaching 966 00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:39,200 Speaker 4: stats for what's going on on the field. They're always 967 00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:41,800 Speaker 4: like the play. They're always putting it on the players 968 00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:46,920 Speaker 4: like we were. And UH, and certainly there's room for both. 969 00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:48,040 Speaker 3: Uh. 970 00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:50,160 Speaker 4: If the player the players can play a bad head 971 00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:52,520 Speaker 4: coach out of a bad decision, no question about it. 972 00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:53,000 Speaker 3: It always is. 973 00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:54,759 Speaker 4: And a coach can help his players and put them 974 00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:55,920 Speaker 4: in a position to be better. 975 00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:56,919 Speaker 3: Uh. 976 00:49:56,960 --> 00:49:59,360 Speaker 4: It just seems like and a lot of the and 977 00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:01,120 Speaker 4: the losses where the Bills had not so much. The 978 00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:04,239 Speaker 4: Baltimore lost this year, of course, that that was a beatdown, 979 00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:06,520 Speaker 4: But games like this and all the games we've talked 980 00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:08,839 Speaker 4: over that forty three game stretch where they never lost 981 00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:12,440 Speaker 4: by more than six points, you just never see enough 982 00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:15,560 Speaker 4: of one group bailing out the other, the coaches not 983 00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:17,360 Speaker 4: bailing the players out, and the players not bailing the 984 00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:20,560 Speaker 4: coaches out. Whether one depends on the other or the 985 00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:23,840 Speaker 4: other depends on the one. It just doesn't happen in 986 00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:28,440 Speaker 4: those games. The Bills when they lose, particularly these games 987 00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:31,600 Speaker 4: like we've seen over the last four years, they lose 988 00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:35,239 Speaker 4: by six points or less, they do it to themselves. 989 00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:41,319 Speaker 4: And man, oh man, it's tiresome, right And we have 990 00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:45,080 Speaker 4: how many remember the Minnesota game where it was that 991 00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:49,120 Speaker 4: Cam Lewis on the fourth and twenty three, fourth and eighteen, 992 00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:52,680 Speaker 4: he almost helps Justin Jefferson. 993 00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:56,000 Speaker 2: Forget the snap on the goal line that was fumbled. 994 00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:57,560 Speaker 3: And the snap on the goal line that is fumbled. 995 00:50:57,600 --> 00:51:02,120 Speaker 4: I mean, ah, those you know, that's you know, all 996 00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:06,360 Speaker 4: you gotta, all you needed was a snap, a quarterback 997 00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:08,920 Speaker 4: sneak for no gain and you win the game and 998 00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:10,240 Speaker 4: we end up losing the game. 999 00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:13,320 Speaker 3: It's just absolutely. 1000 00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:19,640 Speaker 4: Mind boggling how often the Bills help other teams beat them. 1001 00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:23,239 Speaker 4: And this is just it seems like there's another instant. 1002 00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:26,840 Speaker 2: Very often because yeah, they went out. I'm just gonna 1003 00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:28,680 Speaker 2: say this too, not for nothing. I mean, you're spending 1004 00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:31,440 Speaker 2: the weekend with Marv Levy. Sean McDermott is the winningest 1005 00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:33,719 Speaker 2: coach in Bill's history in terms of winning percentage. 1006 00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:35,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, so I mean he wins. 1007 00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:37,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's that too. 1008 00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:39,279 Speaker 3: There's that. Sorry, there's that. 1009 00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:41,000 Speaker 2: I'm just stating the fact there's that. 1010 00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:43,480 Speaker 4: But that's that's where we're at. And man oh man, 1011 00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:47,239 Speaker 4: that's why these losses. Well, actually run a poll. Is 1012 00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:49,480 Speaker 4: it better to lose to the Baltimore Ravens by twenty 1013 00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:50,640 Speaker 4: five or go through this? 1014 00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:54,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, we gotta take a break here. When 1015 00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:56,360 Speaker 2: we come back, we're gonna be joined by my broadcast 1016 00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:58,680 Speaker 2: partner on the Bills Radio network, Eric Wood is going 1017 00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:01,439 Speaker 2: to join us for his thoughts on where things sit 1018 00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:03,759 Speaker 2: with this Bill's team, sitting now at three and two 1019 00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:06,520 Speaker 2: after back to back losses. Eric would coming your way 1020 00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:08,560 Speaker 2: next here on One Bill's Live presented by Colida Health. 1021 00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:48,880 Speaker 2: It's Buffalo Bills Radio. 1022 00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:57,480 Speaker 1: The One Bill's Live presented by Calida Health. 1023 00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:00,840 Speaker 2: All right, our number two here on a Buffalo Football Monday, 1024 00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:04,799 Speaker 2: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you and join now by 1025 00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:08,160 Speaker 2: the radio color analyst on the Bills Radio Network, former 1026 00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:11,280 Speaker 2: Bills Center and host of the Center on Buffalo podcast. 1027 00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:13,440 Speaker 2: It's Eric Wood joining us here as he does after 1028 00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:18,479 Speaker 2: every game day. Eric, I kind of leave it open 1029 00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:20,640 Speaker 2: to you in terms of where you want to start here, 1030 00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:23,120 Speaker 2: but I think we'd be remiss because I know a 1031 00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:24,640 Speaker 2: lot of the subject matter is going to be on 1032 00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:27,680 Speaker 2: the handling of the end of the game. But the 1033 00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:31,640 Speaker 2: defensive effort in the second half was nothing short of impressive. 1034 00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:34,120 Speaker 2: I mean they get a turnover on downs to take 1035 00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:36,279 Speaker 2: points off the board by the Texans, and then the 1036 00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:37,880 Speaker 2: two takeaways in the fourth quarter. 1037 00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:42,120 Speaker 13: Yeah, I like starting on a positive here, and I 1038 00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:46,480 Speaker 13: was impressed with the defense outside of you know, maybe 1039 00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:49,319 Speaker 13: the second, third, fourth drive of the game. I thought 1040 00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:52,280 Speaker 13: they really adjusted well, and look, this is a defense 1041 00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:55,480 Speaker 13: that's banged up. They are out with a number of guys. 1042 00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:57,880 Speaker 13: You know, you hit the huge play to Nico Collins. 1043 00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:00,399 Speaker 13: I'm not exactly sure what happens there, but it sure 1044 00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:03,120 Speaker 13: looks like maybe Cole Bishop getting his first start should 1045 00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:05,200 Speaker 13: have been over the top. And so you have these 1046 00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:08,680 Speaker 13: mistakes and blunders, but then they really settled into their roles, 1047 00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:11,439 Speaker 13: and you know, getting a guy like Trel Bernard back 1048 00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:13,680 Speaker 13: is huge. We saw the fourth and one stop where 1049 00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:15,879 Speaker 13: he goes over the top, the stuff the running back 1050 00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:18,279 Speaker 13: in the backyard. There was nice penetration there as well, 1051 00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:20,759 Speaker 13: but throw Bernard's a playmaker. He goes over the top. 1052 00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:22,360 Speaker 13: You know, a lot of guys aren't even going to 1053 00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:25,799 Speaker 13: try that one. And then the interception he makes being 1054 00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:28,799 Speaker 13: able to ride the tight end Schultz go back and 1055 00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:31,120 Speaker 13: intercept the ball trying to get at the digs. I mean, 1056 00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:33,840 Speaker 13: there's just not a ton of linebackers in the NFL 1057 00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:36,239 Speaker 13: that can make plays like that. So you get him back, 1058 00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:38,839 Speaker 13: which helps a lot. And then with that Oliver out, 1059 00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:42,440 Speaker 13: you're thinking, Okay, can Dwayne Carter make some plays? You know, 1060 00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:44,520 Speaker 13: is he going to be at Oliver? You know, not 1061 00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:47,440 Speaker 13: at this point, but can he make some plays out there? 1062 00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:49,879 Speaker 13: He sniffs out the first screen pass of the game, 1063 00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:52,359 Speaker 13: which was a point of emphesis after last week from 1064 00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:55,160 Speaker 13: Sean McDermott and his press conference, and then he was 1065 00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:57,560 Speaker 13: able to make a few nice plays throughout the game. 1066 00:54:57,600 --> 00:55:01,600 Speaker 13: I was impressed with him flash at times. And then 1067 00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:04,920 Speaker 13: Dorian Williams week after week. He seems to be getting 1068 00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:08,040 Speaker 13: better and better. And there was other individual efforts, you know, Rasull, 1069 00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:10,160 Speaker 13: Douglas and christ and Benford both had a tackle for 1070 00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:12,759 Speaker 13: loss in this game. Seemed like the edge pressure and 1071 00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:16,480 Speaker 13: the pass rushing generally especial in the second half, did 1072 00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:22,480 Speaker 13: a nice job for those watching the Dwan smooth forced fumble, 1073 00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:26,440 Speaker 13: big time play. So there was some great individual efforts, 1074 00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:28,440 Speaker 13: especially on the defense side of the football in the 1075 00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:29,000 Speaker 13: second half. 1076 00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:32,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, and let's talk a little bit about why it 1077 00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:35,600 Speaker 4: has taken like for instance, in the Baltimore game and 1078 00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:39,760 Speaker 4: then also in the Arizona game, it's taken the defense 1079 00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:41,520 Speaker 4: finally a minute to get it going. I mean, the 1080 00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:44,040 Speaker 4: Bills were down twenty to three in this one. They 1081 00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:52,560 Speaker 4: were down seventeen to three against Arizona. Obviously, Baltimore jumped 1082 00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:55,719 Speaker 4: out to a big league how you know, and offensively 1083 00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:59,040 Speaker 4: same thing. They came back from a big deficit in 1084 00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:01,520 Speaker 4: are against Arizona. They came back from this deficit last 1085 00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:03,879 Speaker 4: week and tied it this last game yesterday and tied 1086 00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:04,200 Speaker 4: it up. 1087 00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:06,680 Speaker 3: You know, what can what do you tell? 1088 00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:07,520 Speaker 11: You know? 1089 00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:09,560 Speaker 4: How do you manage coaching staff? Say, listen, we got 1090 00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:11,200 Speaker 4: to get better, We got to be better coming out 1091 00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:14,040 Speaker 4: of the shoot. Our game plans are not working early 1092 00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:16,960 Speaker 4: in these games. Is taking us a minute defined ourselves? 1093 00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:19,080 Speaker 3: What are the issues there? 1094 00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:22,600 Speaker 13: Yeah, it's hard to tell if it's schematic or if 1095 00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:26,239 Speaker 13: it's simply individual breakdowns. Now, we talked about before the 1096 00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:28,319 Speaker 13: season that this could be a slower start to the 1097 00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:31,759 Speaker 13: defense just because of all the different pieces that were 1098 00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:33,640 Speaker 13: gonna have on the defensive side of the football. Well, 1099 00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:36,480 Speaker 13: when you're inexperienced, and Steve I know you know this 1100 00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:39,680 Speaker 13: and Chris from following the game for so long, inexperienced 1101 00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:42,640 Speaker 13: teams generally start slower in games. They just don't have 1102 00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:45,279 Speaker 13: as much experience. The game feels fast to them at 1103 00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:47,200 Speaker 13: the start. I talked to that within my own career. 1104 00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:48,920 Speaker 13: Towards the end of my career, I felt like, you know, 1105 00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:51,920 Speaker 13: the beginning of the game was just you know, routine 1106 00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:54,080 Speaker 13: at this point and earlier in my career, I felt 1107 00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:56,799 Speaker 13: like there was almost a touch of an adjustment with 1108 00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:59,640 Speaker 13: each and every game going into it. And so you 1109 00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:02,120 Speaker 13: know that that could be part of what's costing this defense. 1110 00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:04,640 Speaker 13: You know, the safeties maybe starting a little bit slow. 1111 00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:07,000 Speaker 13: These you know, new linebackers that have been in with 1112 00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:09,680 Speaker 13: the different injuries and different guys that have had to 1113 00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:12,759 Speaker 13: play on this defense. A cam Lewis, who's getting much 1114 00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:16,040 Speaker 13: more starting reps this year, filling in for Arren Johnson. 1115 00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:18,680 Speaker 13: So I think that's part of it. And then you know, 1116 00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:20,640 Speaker 13: you look at your game plan. Here are we maybe 1117 00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:23,880 Speaker 13: two conservative early and then okay, now we're backs against 1118 00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:26,680 Speaker 13: the ball. Now we're being more aggressive. And I'm just 1119 00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:28,080 Speaker 13: throwing that out there. I don't know that to be 1120 00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:29,280 Speaker 13: a fact. 1121 00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:29,360 Speaker 3: All right. 1122 00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:32,640 Speaker 4: Also, too, they got five starters out from on defense 1123 00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:36,160 Speaker 4: playing on defense, so that might tend to give you 1124 00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:37,400 Speaker 4: a slow start, all right. 1125 00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:42,000 Speaker 2: So looking at the offense now, after five games, they're 1126 00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:45,160 Speaker 2: in the bottom third in passing. They're now averaging one 1127 00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:47,800 Speaker 2: hundred and eighty one passing yards a game. I mean, 1128 00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:51,560 Speaker 2: that is a kneemic by a Josh Allen led team 1129 00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:55,920 Speaker 2: standards twenty fourth and first downs per game twenty fifth 1130 00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:58,520 Speaker 2: and third down conversion percentage, a place where they led 1131 00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:00,480 Speaker 2: the league each of the last two years. It's down 1132 00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:05,680 Speaker 2: to thirty two conversion rate. These are the primary issues 1133 00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:08,360 Speaker 2: where they rank very low in the league. Now, after 1134 00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:13,480 Speaker 2: five games, how do you go about correcting what's kind 1135 00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:16,600 Speaker 2: of hit the Bills in the teeth the last two 1136 00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:17,560 Speaker 2: weeks offensively? 1137 00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:21,800 Speaker 13: Yeah, third downs is definitely an issue. When you look 1138 00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:24,960 Speaker 13: at the passing numbers, you know, two weeks over, you're saying, well, 1139 00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:28,160 Speaker 13: those are skewed because you know we had two blowout wins. 1140 00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:29,160 Speaker 16: We didn't have to run the football. 1141 00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:32,560 Speaker 13: Okay, Well, now it's getting back to a normal it's 1142 00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:35,880 Speaker 13: getting back to normalcy where okay, we have five games, 1143 00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:39,600 Speaker 13: only two of those were blowouts. You know, what's what's 1144 00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:42,000 Speaker 13: going on with the passing game? And when when I 1145 00:58:42,040 --> 00:58:44,600 Speaker 13: look at it, to me, when you look at these 1146 00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:47,439 Speaker 13: last two games. Baltimore came over with a game plan 1147 00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:50,320 Speaker 13: and simply said, I don't think if we put pressure 1148 00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:52,160 Speaker 13: on Josh, if we can try confused, then we'll put. 1149 00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:53,640 Speaker 16: Guys all over the line of scrimmage. 1150 00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:56,600 Speaker 13: You know, you try and guess who's coming that's going 1151 00:58:56,640 --> 00:58:58,840 Speaker 13: to expose the second and third level of your defense, 1152 00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:02,120 Speaker 13: So you got to play play man behind it. And 1153 00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:05,240 Speaker 13: they're saying you can't separate in time before we get 1154 00:59:05,240 --> 00:59:08,480 Speaker 13: free rushers. Okay, well, Houston copies that game plan as well. 1155 00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:12,760 Speaker 13: So is it you know, understanding of at the receiver position, 1156 00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:14,800 Speaker 13: understanding what you have to do and how quick you 1157 00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:17,360 Speaker 13: have to win? Is it you know, a lack of 1158 00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:19,960 Speaker 13: talent out there where they aren't able to get that 1159 00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:24,120 Speaker 13: separation or is it scheme? And that's what the Bills 1160 00:59:24,160 --> 00:59:27,080 Speaker 13: have to examine right now, because if I'm prepping for 1161 00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:30,720 Speaker 13: the Buffalo Bills after these last two games, I'm saying, Okay, well, 1162 00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:32,520 Speaker 13: I'm gonna take some chances in this one, and you 1163 00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:35,760 Speaker 13: know what, I might get beat for a forty nine 1164 00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:38,920 Speaker 13: yard touchdown to Keon Coleman. 1165 00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:39,720 Speaker 16: That might happen. 1166 00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:42,360 Speaker 13: You have a cover zero blitz, and that might happen 1167 00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:44,680 Speaker 13: once a game, but we're gonna, you know, force you 1168 00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:48,000 Speaker 13: to be extremely low on third down conversion percentage. We're 1169 00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:49,920 Speaker 13: gonna get you off the field, and we're willing to 1170 00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:51,760 Speaker 13: give up that one if we can get a bunch 1171 00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:53,720 Speaker 13: of other stops. 1172 00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:56,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would expect the Jets to take the same approach. 1173 00:59:57,000 --> 00:59:59,400 Speaker 2: I mean, you're playing at home, Blitz the heck out 1174 00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:01,600 Speaker 2: of them and see if they can fix it, because 1175 01:00:01,640 --> 01:00:03,600 Speaker 2: they haven't after two games, is yeah. 1176 01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:06,680 Speaker 4: And how concerned are you about the upfront the pass 1177 01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:08,640 Speaker 4: protection of the Bills. I certainly, you know, we've seen 1178 01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:11,160 Speaker 4: Josh leave a little early when he didn't need to, 1179 01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:13,800 Speaker 4: but that's probably he's starting to get trained by his 1180 01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:14,960 Speaker 4: own internal clock. 1181 01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:19,960 Speaker 13: You know, I'm still not overly concerned about this offensive 1182 01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:21,680 Speaker 13: line in any way, shape or form. I think they've 1183 01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:23,600 Speaker 13: done a great job in a run game, and then 1184 01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:27,040 Speaker 13: has there been some breakdowns up front, especially on the 1185 01:00:27,040 --> 01:00:30,440 Speaker 13: interior at times. Of course, I think the biggest issues 1186 01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:32,479 Speaker 13: that have in pass protection right now are at times 1187 01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:35,040 Speaker 13: you get these free rushers and you know, yesterday there 1188 01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:37,200 Speaker 13: was one with Ray Davis in the game where it 1189 01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:39,800 Speaker 13: seemed like Josh thought that Ray Davis was going to 1190 01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:41,840 Speaker 13: pick up the guy on the backside, or if that 1191 01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:43,880 Speaker 13: guy comes, you just replace him with the football, which 1192 01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:46,320 Speaker 13: we saw Houston due to us twice for first downs 1193 01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:48,360 Speaker 13: of the game. And so it just seems like whether 1194 01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:51,720 Speaker 13: it's communication issues up front or with Josh or with 1195 01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:54,479 Speaker 13: the backs of the receivers. It seems like the free 1196 01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:57,320 Speaker 13: runners are the biggest issue with the pass protection, not 1197 01:00:57,440 --> 01:01:01,120 Speaker 13: necessarily the individual breakdowns up front. 1198 01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:04,720 Speaker 2: Right because he was pressured on fifteen to thirty four 1199 01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:08,800 Speaker 2: dropbacks against the Ravens last week. I don't think there 1200 01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:11,720 Speaker 2: were as many free rushers this time this week, So 1201 01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:15,200 Speaker 2: maybe they corrected some of those things and reduce the number. 1202 01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:19,480 Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean, you're if you're the Jets, you're 1203 01:01:19,480 --> 01:01:21,520 Speaker 2: probably trying to find some of those kinds of plays 1204 01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:24,080 Speaker 2: that you think might work for your guys when it 1205 01:01:24,120 --> 01:01:24,600 Speaker 2: comes to. 1206 01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:26,840 Speaker 16: And then real quick, real quick, real quick. 1207 01:01:26,920 --> 01:01:29,680 Speaker 13: And then also what affects O line play and pass 1208 01:01:29,720 --> 01:01:32,760 Speaker 13: protection is being down multiple scores of games. Now, you 1209 01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:36,000 Speaker 13: control that yourself, that's the bed you made. But when 1210 01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:39,240 Speaker 13: you're down multiple scores, teams want to get really exotic 1211 01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:41,280 Speaker 13: with the looks that they give you. They're willing to 1212 01:01:41,320 --> 01:01:45,040 Speaker 13: take a few more chances. And the defensive line and 1213 01:01:45,120 --> 01:01:47,440 Speaker 13: knows at all times, you know, we don't really care 1214 01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:49,640 Speaker 13: about giving up a seven yard run right now, We 1215 01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:51,920 Speaker 13: just can't. You know, We're going to go try and 1216 01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:54,000 Speaker 13: te uf on the quarterback. And so I think that's 1217 01:01:54,120 --> 01:01:55,280 Speaker 13: that's played a big factor. 1218 01:01:55,080 --> 01:01:57,640 Speaker 2: These last couple to mention the fact that yesterday the 1219 01:01:57,640 --> 01:02:00,440 Speaker 2: Bills on average were in third and seven or more 1220 01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:05,240 Speaker 2: on average in yesterday's game, And yeah, that's gonna compromise 1221 01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:07,880 Speaker 2: the protection too. As far as the passing game, though, 1222 01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:13,120 Speaker 2: I'm curious for your thoughts on this, Eric, continuity and 1223 01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:17,080 Speaker 2: reliability is what you're seeking right now in the passing 1224 01:02:17,120 --> 01:02:20,720 Speaker 2: game for the Bills going forward. Hopefully Shaki is back 1225 01:02:20,840 --> 01:02:23,320 Speaker 2: the highest catch rate player in the league. That would 1226 01:02:23,320 --> 01:02:27,080 Speaker 2: certainly help. But if you're looking for continuity, in my estimation, 1227 01:02:27,560 --> 01:02:29,560 Speaker 2: I think you have to feature James Cook in the 1228 01:02:29,600 --> 01:02:33,520 Speaker 2: passing game more. You have to feature Kinkaid in the 1229 01:02:33,560 --> 01:02:36,600 Speaker 2: passing game more. And I would even throw Dalton Dawson 1230 01:02:36,680 --> 01:02:39,640 Speaker 2: Knox in there as a fourth option because these are 1231 01:02:39,680 --> 01:02:43,400 Speaker 2: guys that have played the most with Josh Allen going forward. 1232 01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:48,680 Speaker 13: Yeah, sorry, I have I put my computer on mute. 1233 01:02:48,720 --> 01:02:52,520 Speaker 13: I had a dog barking out here. But anyways, uh, yeah, 1234 01:02:52,600 --> 01:02:55,200 Speaker 13: I mean, you gotta get dal kink going. This has 1235 01:02:55,240 --> 01:02:58,360 Speaker 13: been a disappointing second season for him. You know you're 1236 01:02:58,360 --> 01:03:00,720 Speaker 13: gonna get some splash plays from Keion Coleman, but can 1237 01:03:00,760 --> 01:03:03,600 Speaker 13: you get him more involved how can you get Curtis 1238 01:03:03,640 --> 01:03:06,760 Speaker 13: Samuel some catches down the field, which will then open 1239 01:03:06,840 --> 01:03:10,720 Speaker 13: up some of those screens and quick hitters that you're 1240 01:03:10,760 --> 01:03:15,200 Speaker 13: trying to get him almost exclusively right now. And then yeah, 1241 01:03:15,280 --> 01:03:18,520 Speaker 13: obviously getting kleioshak Heir back will help. And then yeah, 1242 01:03:18,600 --> 01:03:21,040 Speaker 13: Dawson Knox has been fairly invisible this year? 1243 01:03:21,080 --> 01:03:22,000 Speaker 16: Can he be an option? 1244 01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:25,400 Speaker 13: Because you know, we could talk all we want about 1245 01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:28,800 Speaker 13: who can we bring in? Or you know, is Devonte 1246 01:03:28,840 --> 01:03:33,240 Speaker 13: Adams or Amari Cooper? Well, you know that's likely a 1247 01:03:33,280 --> 01:03:35,480 Speaker 13: long shot. So how do you make the most of 1248 01:03:35,520 --> 01:03:37,800 Speaker 13: what you have on this roster right now? And I 1249 01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:40,680 Speaker 13: don't think it's far feest to say that, you know, 1250 01:03:41,080 --> 01:03:43,720 Speaker 13: what we saw in the first few weeks can get 1251 01:03:43,720 --> 01:03:46,520 Speaker 13: it done. Now you're gonna have to evolve as the 1252 01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:50,000 Speaker 13: season goes on. And you know, these last couple of weeks, 1253 01:03:50,040 --> 01:03:53,120 Speaker 13: they've gotten exposed, and it seems like it they've gotten 1254 01:03:53,120 --> 01:03:55,640 Speaker 13: exposed with not being able to beat Manavan defense. 1255 01:03:56,080 --> 01:03:58,080 Speaker 3: And I was going to ask you that as well. 1256 01:03:58,240 --> 01:04:00,560 Speaker 4: You know, we saw in the first three weeks some 1257 01:04:00,600 --> 01:04:04,800 Speaker 4: pretty pretty shiny stuff and you know, they're they're throwing 1258 01:04:04,800 --> 01:04:06,720 Speaker 4: thirty points on the board and you know all this 1259 01:04:06,760 --> 01:04:09,240 Speaker 4: stuff's going on this five And we were talking too 1260 01:04:09,320 --> 01:04:11,320 Speaker 4: in the big picture of three and two kind of 1261 01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:13,120 Speaker 4: when we got into there with all these new players 1262 01:04:13,120 --> 01:04:14,640 Speaker 4: and the turnover three and two is kind of where 1263 01:04:14,640 --> 01:04:15,480 Speaker 4: we thought we would be. 1264 01:04:16,080 --> 01:04:16,920 Speaker 3: But man Oman, I. 1265 01:04:16,840 --> 01:04:18,560 Speaker 4: Didn't think it was gonna look like this, right, I 1266 01:04:18,560 --> 01:04:19,640 Speaker 4: thought it would be the other way. 1267 01:04:19,640 --> 01:04:20,720 Speaker 3: You'd flip it upside down. 1268 01:04:20,720 --> 01:04:23,000 Speaker 4: You look like this in the first two weeks, and 1269 01:04:23,040 --> 01:04:25,080 Speaker 4: then the next three weeks you start to get it together. 1270 01:04:25,560 --> 01:04:27,040 Speaker 3: What how hike? 1271 01:04:27,480 --> 01:04:29,520 Speaker 4: I mean, I know, yesterday is like a r you 1272 01:04:29,520 --> 01:04:31,640 Speaker 4: know it, Yeah, it was like a big belly flop. 1273 01:04:31,680 --> 01:04:33,640 Speaker 4: But what about you know, how do you how high 1274 01:04:33,640 --> 01:04:36,200 Speaker 4: are you on this group? On the offensive side, end, 1275 01:04:36,200 --> 01:04:39,200 Speaker 4: defensive side, the personnel, the roster, and the whole kitt kaboodle. 1276 01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:41,200 Speaker 4: This is kind of where we thought we'd be, But 1277 01:04:41,320 --> 01:04:44,960 Speaker 4: man Oman, it feels worse than I thought it would feel. 1278 01:04:46,240 --> 01:04:46,880 Speaker 16: Yeah, it does. 1279 01:04:47,280 --> 01:04:50,640 Speaker 13: And there's obvious concerns, and there are concerns defensively. A 1280 01:04:50,680 --> 01:04:53,160 Speaker 13: lot of that has to do with the injuries. When 1281 01:04:53,160 --> 01:04:54,960 Speaker 13: are you going to get these guys back? You know, 1282 01:04:55,280 --> 01:04:58,760 Speaker 13: does Taron Johnson come back this week? That would certainly help, 1283 01:04:59,480 --> 01:05:02,120 Speaker 13: And that's not knock on cam Lewis. He filled in admirably, 1284 01:05:02,200 --> 01:05:05,360 Speaker 13: but Terren Johnson's an All Pro player at the nickel position. 1285 01:05:05,400 --> 01:05:08,360 Speaker 13: You got Terrel Bernard back last week. That made a difference. 1286 01:05:08,520 --> 01:05:11,160 Speaker 13: How quick can Matt Mlano come back? Is it you know, 1287 01:05:11,320 --> 01:05:13,640 Speaker 13: early December, because that would certainly be a huge boost 1288 01:05:13,680 --> 01:05:16,520 Speaker 13: for this defense. You're gonna get bon Miller back. How 1289 01:05:16,560 --> 01:05:17,080 Speaker 13: long is that? 1290 01:05:17,200 --> 01:05:17,520 Speaker 3: Oliver? 1291 01:05:19,200 --> 01:05:20,360 Speaker 16: Is Taylor rap back this week? 1292 01:05:20,560 --> 01:05:22,280 Speaker 13: A lot of the concerns on the defense side of 1293 01:05:22,280 --> 01:05:24,720 Speaker 13: the football are the injuries and when you have new guys, 1294 01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:27,360 Speaker 13: especially at the safety position, you'd love for Rapp and 1295 01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:29,320 Speaker 13: Hamlin or whatever that do is going to be back 1296 01:05:29,320 --> 01:05:31,640 Speaker 13: there to be able to gel throughout the season so 1297 01:05:31,680 --> 01:05:33,600 Speaker 13: that they're peaking towards the end of the year and 1298 01:05:33,640 --> 01:05:37,520 Speaker 13: you really want to avoid any more injuries. And then offensively, 1299 01:05:37,560 --> 01:05:40,680 Speaker 13: there's definitely some concerns and a lot of that has 1300 01:05:40,800 --> 01:05:43,440 Speaker 13: to do with the passing game, because the run game 1301 01:05:43,520 --> 01:05:46,640 Speaker 13: right now seems to be effective, and so it becomes 1302 01:05:47,120 --> 01:05:49,760 Speaker 13: how do we get this passing game going? Is it 1303 01:05:50,680 --> 01:05:52,920 Speaker 13: lean into the run and it's more play action? 1304 01:05:53,720 --> 01:05:54,080 Speaker 6: Is it? 1305 01:05:54,680 --> 01:06:00,000 Speaker 13: You know, more rub routes to manufacture you know, separate 1306 01:06:00,320 --> 01:06:02,840 Speaker 13: against man man defense and not rely on you know, 1307 01:06:02,920 --> 01:06:06,960 Speaker 13: guys winning a true one on one matchup. But yeah, 1308 01:06:07,160 --> 01:06:11,240 Speaker 13: there is concerns right now. I also feel like, you know, 1309 01:06:11,280 --> 01:06:14,240 Speaker 13: they've really shot themselves in the foot against two really 1310 01:06:14,240 --> 01:06:16,200 Speaker 13: good teams these last two weeks to start the game, 1311 01:06:17,120 --> 01:06:19,160 Speaker 13: and then you just fight and claw to try and 1312 01:06:19,160 --> 01:06:19,720 Speaker 13: get back. 1313 01:06:19,520 --> 01:06:20,200 Speaker 16: In these things. 1314 01:06:20,440 --> 01:06:22,520 Speaker 13: If they could just be more efficient at the start 1315 01:06:22,520 --> 01:06:26,560 Speaker 13: of games and not hurt themselves with penalties or drops 1316 01:06:26,640 --> 01:06:28,960 Speaker 13: or whatever it may be, they're going to set themselves 1317 01:06:29,040 --> 01:06:32,680 Speaker 13: up to play a more just balanced football game, which 1318 01:06:32,720 --> 01:06:34,000 Speaker 13: is going to be a better recipe. 1319 01:06:34,120 --> 01:06:34,320 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1320 01:06:34,320 --> 01:06:36,920 Speaker 2: I like play action on first down a lot because 1321 01:06:37,000 --> 01:06:39,520 Speaker 2: they have run the ball on twenty of their last 1322 01:06:39,560 --> 01:06:43,520 Speaker 2: twenty six first downs. That's not a tendency, that is 1323 01:06:43,720 --> 01:06:47,880 Speaker 2: an extreme lopside, that's a habit. That's a habit exactly. 1324 01:06:47,960 --> 01:06:50,720 Speaker 2: So first down playoffs could go a long way on 1325 01:06:50,760 --> 01:06:51,320 Speaker 2: Monday night. 1326 01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:55,720 Speaker 13: Yeah, especially when you know you're right, you know, depending 1327 01:06:55,760 --> 01:06:58,880 Speaker 13: on the game somewhere probably forty to sixty percent past 1328 01:06:58,920 --> 01:07:01,600 Speaker 13: the run. When you that heavy on first down, then 1329 01:07:01,720 --> 01:07:04,480 Speaker 13: T teams could really clue in on that. 1330 01:07:04,840 --> 01:07:07,640 Speaker 16: And then yesterday we ran the. 1331 01:07:07,160 --> 01:07:10,040 Speaker 13: Naked boot Leg and Daniel Hunter doesn't fall for it, 1332 01:07:10,440 --> 01:07:13,000 Speaker 13: and they actually did. I believe that was a first 1333 01:07:13,040 --> 01:07:14,760 Speaker 13: down and I thought that one was going to get 1334 01:07:14,800 --> 01:07:17,040 Speaker 13: outside the pocket, but they sniffed that one out. 1335 01:07:17,080 --> 01:07:19,560 Speaker 16: But yeah, I'm with you. 1336 01:07:19,560 --> 01:07:22,680 Speaker 13: You know, get get more multiple and then you know, 1337 01:07:22,720 --> 01:07:25,520 Speaker 13: I know Shakiir is somewhat that guy for Josh. But 1338 01:07:25,560 --> 01:07:28,120 Speaker 13: with Shakir out, you know can occur to Samuel. Can 1339 01:07:28,120 --> 01:07:32,479 Speaker 13: a Dalton Kin Kaid be that you know, button throw 1340 01:07:32,720 --> 01:07:35,680 Speaker 13: and not a screen pass, but you know, kind of 1341 01:07:35,720 --> 01:07:38,360 Speaker 13: that quick hit or across the middle of the field 1342 01:07:38,720 --> 01:07:41,360 Speaker 13: or an option route, you know, exposing a slot defender, 1343 01:07:41,400 --> 01:07:44,760 Speaker 13: getting some of those on early downs to just keep 1344 01:07:44,840 --> 01:07:46,160 Speaker 13: you ahead of the down and distance. 1345 01:07:46,240 --> 01:07:50,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm big for James Cook being featured in the 1346 01:07:50,520 --> 01:07:53,040 Speaker 2: passing game. I think he's your most dynamic athlete next 1347 01:07:53,040 --> 01:07:56,120 Speaker 2: to Josh Allen on the offense. Maybe feature him more 1348 01:07:56,120 --> 01:07:58,240 Speaker 2: in the passing game. Let Ty Johnson and Ray Davis 1349 01:07:58,320 --> 01:08:01,000 Speaker 2: handle the run game. And I had some options. I mean, 1350 01:08:01,320 --> 01:08:03,640 Speaker 2: the ultimate sign of respect was on that pass that 1351 01:08:03,680 --> 01:08:07,200 Speaker 2: he almost caught inbounds. They wanted a linebacker matchup, they 1352 01:08:07,200 --> 01:08:09,760 Speaker 2: got a safety instead. That'll show you how much respect 1353 01:08:09,840 --> 01:08:12,640 Speaker 2: James Cook has in the passing game. Already, maybe feature 1354 01:08:12,720 --> 01:08:14,479 Speaker 2: him a little bit more. Eric, thanks for the time. 1355 01:08:14,520 --> 01:08:16,840 Speaker 2: We appreciated. As always, We'll catch up with you later 1356 01:08:16,880 --> 01:08:17,240 Speaker 2: in the week. 1357 01:08:18,400 --> 01:08:19,720 Speaker 16: Sounds good. Have a great week, guys. 1358 01:08:19,760 --> 01:08:22,599 Speaker 2: All right, that's Eric Wood joining us Biel's radio color 1359 01:08:22,600 --> 01:08:25,880 Speaker 2: analyst and host of the Centered on Buffalo podcast. Got 1360 01:08:25,880 --> 01:08:27,639 Speaker 2: to get right back to the Phone's got people waiting 1361 01:08:27,680 --> 01:08:30,719 Speaker 2: patiently there and we go to Neil in North Jersey. 1362 01:08:30,800 --> 01:08:31,400 Speaker 2: What do you got for us? 1363 01:08:31,439 --> 01:08:36,120 Speaker 9: Neil, gentlemen, longtime call out of the station, first time 1364 01:08:36,160 --> 01:08:37,800 Speaker 9: calling you. Thanks for taking my call. 1365 01:08:37,840 --> 01:08:38,519 Speaker 8: I appreciate it. 1366 01:08:38,560 --> 01:08:38,840 Speaker 2: Sure. 1367 01:08:39,840 --> 01:08:40,360 Speaker 11: Excuse me. 1368 01:08:40,920 --> 01:08:43,639 Speaker 9: So, I'm just going to ask a very straightforward this 1369 01:08:43,720 --> 01:08:47,240 Speaker 9: is the sports talk radio. I'm going to propose a statement. 1370 01:08:47,560 --> 01:08:50,160 Speaker 9: I'd like to hear you answer it, and then discuss 1371 01:08:50,560 --> 01:08:54,439 Speaker 9: what would Sean McDermott has to do in your eyes 1372 01:08:54,560 --> 01:08:58,320 Speaker 9: for you to go on these airways and ask for him. 1373 01:08:58,200 --> 01:09:02,960 Speaker 4: To be fired lose the rest of the games. 1374 01:09:03,280 --> 01:09:06,800 Speaker 9: So if so, if he goes nine to eight or 1375 01:09:06,840 --> 01:09:09,479 Speaker 9: ten and seven, we back door in the playoffs and 1376 01:09:09,520 --> 01:09:12,040 Speaker 9: get bounced in the first round, you would keep him 1377 01:09:12,040 --> 01:09:13,360 Speaker 9: as the head coach for the following year. 1378 01:09:13,479 --> 01:09:16,240 Speaker 2: Yes, he's the winning his coach in Bill's history by winning. 1379 01:09:18,240 --> 01:09:21,040 Speaker 9: Okay, that's a budd Okay, So let's let's now it's 1380 01:09:21,080 --> 01:09:22,160 Speaker 9: time to burst the bubble. 1381 01:09:22,200 --> 01:09:22,519 Speaker 11: Okay. 1382 01:09:23,000 --> 01:09:26,760 Speaker 9: Sean McDermott has a gaudy regular season record. He's this 1383 01:09:26,880 --> 01:09:29,439 Speaker 9: generation's party shot in the heimer. He'll get you into 1384 01:09:29,479 --> 01:09:31,760 Speaker 9: the playoffs, and he's a good regular season coach, but 1385 01:09:31,840 --> 01:09:34,760 Speaker 9: he folds in big games and he can't win in 1386 01:09:34,800 --> 01:09:37,320 Speaker 9: the playoffs. He should have been fired up to thirteen seconds. 1387 01:09:37,360 --> 01:09:39,519 Speaker 9: He had two gay losses against Miami where the time 1388 01:09:39,600 --> 01:09:42,240 Speaker 9: ran out. He had ten minute on the field yesterday 1389 01:09:42,680 --> 01:09:45,160 Speaker 9: at a game time field goal, and the three as 1390 01:09:45,280 --> 01:09:48,599 Speaker 9: nine decisions of the three passing downs near the back 1391 01:09:48,640 --> 01:09:51,920 Speaker 9: of his end zone. I don't understand how nobody can 1392 01:09:52,000 --> 01:09:55,040 Speaker 9: look at this and look at what Sean McDermott has 1393 01:09:55,080 --> 01:09:56,839 Speaker 9: done and get And I don't mean you personally. 1394 01:09:56,840 --> 01:09:57,680 Speaker 11: I'm just talking. 1395 01:09:57,400 --> 01:09:59,599 Speaker 3: About go ahead in general, Yeah, sorry, go ahead. 1396 01:09:59,640 --> 01:10:03,840 Speaker 9: How anybody can look at that body of work? And 1397 01:10:03,880 --> 01:10:05,559 Speaker 9: you know, there's an old proverb that I'm fond of. 1398 01:10:05,640 --> 01:10:08,959 Speaker 9: One generation plants the trees, the next one gets to shade. 1399 01:10:09,040 --> 01:10:11,840 Speaker 9: And I give Sean McDermott all the credit for rebuilding 1400 01:10:11,880 --> 01:10:15,280 Speaker 9: the Rex Ryan Spratt house gears and turning us back 1401 01:10:15,320 --> 01:10:18,479 Speaker 9: into respectability. But you know, at some point a coach 1402 01:10:18,520 --> 01:10:21,439 Speaker 9: can only get you so far, and his inability to 1403 01:10:21,520 --> 01:10:25,000 Speaker 9: manage the clock to have these horrific coaching decisions, and 1404 01:10:25,080 --> 01:10:27,559 Speaker 9: as your previous callers said, after eight years, showing no 1405 01:10:27,720 --> 01:10:31,000 Speaker 9: growth in development in the ability to handle clock management 1406 01:10:31,040 --> 01:10:35,200 Speaker 9: situations and quite frankly holding back, Josh Allen's development, to 1407 01:10:35,280 --> 01:10:38,040 Speaker 9: me is inexcusable. And I look at a Brian Johnson 1408 01:10:38,080 --> 01:10:40,320 Speaker 9: in Detroit, I look at a Todd Bunkin on the Ravens. 1409 01:10:40,560 --> 01:10:43,600 Speaker 9: I look at other teams where they have an offensive 1410 01:10:43,640 --> 01:10:47,400 Speaker 9: system that actually is molded toward the talents of their quarterback, 1411 01:10:47,760 --> 01:10:51,360 Speaker 9: where they have a competent general manager that builds pieces 1412 01:10:51,400 --> 01:10:54,040 Speaker 9: around them and then goes up and then gets to 1413 01:10:54,240 --> 01:10:57,200 Speaker 9: championships and gets to super Bowls, because there is a 1414 01:10:57,320 --> 01:10:59,839 Speaker 9: vision going forward. And I just don't see. 1415 01:11:00,080 --> 01:11:02,680 Speaker 2: They said Ben Johnson and Todd Monkun neither of them 1416 01:11:02,720 --> 01:11:05,479 Speaker 2: got to the super Bowl. But I know what you're saying, Okay, yeah, yeah, 1417 01:11:05,560 --> 01:11:07,240 Speaker 2: keep going, You're right, go ahead. 1418 01:11:07,000 --> 01:11:10,280 Speaker 9: Man, And so yeah, and my point, and this is 1419 01:11:10,280 --> 01:11:13,479 Speaker 9: not absolved Josh Allen for his horrific play. It does 1420 01:11:13,520 --> 01:11:15,479 Speaker 9: not absolve the fact that we have wide receivers that 1421 01:11:15,520 --> 01:11:19,439 Speaker 9: can I could separation. But that defense yesterday had more 1422 01:11:19,479 --> 01:11:21,639 Speaker 9: heart than the talent they had in the field. They 1423 01:11:21,640 --> 01:11:24,040 Speaker 9: after the initial they only gave up three field goals. 1424 01:11:24,200 --> 01:11:25,800 Speaker 9: I mean, that was the defense that was at least 1425 01:11:25,840 --> 01:11:28,559 Speaker 9: trying and doing everything they can and keep that team 1426 01:11:28,600 --> 01:11:31,160 Speaker 9: in the game, and we still, excuse me, had a 1427 01:11:31,240 --> 01:11:33,080 Speaker 9: chance to win that game. So I'm just going to 1428 01:11:33,160 --> 01:11:35,200 Speaker 9: go back to my original point. I do not understand 1429 01:11:35,720 --> 01:11:39,960 Speaker 9: why anybody after what Sean McDermott did yesterday. I have 1430 01:11:40,120 --> 01:11:43,960 Speaker 9: cousins who have been Seasons eight holds for twenty five years. 1431 01:11:44,320 --> 01:11:46,240 Speaker 9: I have been going to Bill's games since I was 1432 01:11:46,280 --> 01:11:50,519 Speaker 9: twelve years old, and I can't justify being a Bills 1433 01:11:50,520 --> 01:11:54,120 Speaker 9: fan today after looking at what McDermott has done with 1434 01:11:54,240 --> 01:11:58,320 Speaker 9: these horrific late decisions, with these forrit withsin thirteen seconds. 1435 01:11:58,720 --> 01:12:02,080 Speaker 9: It spits on the face of every blue collar Buffalonium 1436 01:12:02,439 --> 01:12:05,240 Speaker 9: who puts their hard earned money to watch a team. 1437 01:12:05,320 --> 01:12:06,840 Speaker 9: All you want to see from a team at the 1438 01:12:06,880 --> 01:12:08,639 Speaker 9: end of the day is that they're putting a best 1439 01:12:08,640 --> 01:12:10,960 Speaker 9: foot forward and that there's a plan going forward. And 1440 01:12:11,040 --> 01:12:13,679 Speaker 9: with Sean McDermott as his head coach, we will never 1441 01:12:13,760 --> 01:12:16,360 Speaker 9: win a Super Bowl with him because he's good, but 1442 01:12:16,439 --> 01:12:18,080 Speaker 9: he's just not good enough. 1443 01:12:18,600 --> 01:12:21,240 Speaker 2: All right, Nailia said your piece, and hope you uh. 1444 01:12:21,400 --> 01:12:23,400 Speaker 2: I mean, it's obvious where you stand on your opinion. 1445 01:12:24,200 --> 01:12:27,240 Speaker 2: You kind of contradicted yourself a little bit at the 1446 01:12:27,320 --> 01:12:30,559 Speaker 2: end there because you gave a ton of credit to 1447 01:12:30,600 --> 01:12:35,439 Speaker 2: the defense for the effort that they had down five starters, which, 1448 01:12:35,640 --> 01:12:39,080 Speaker 2: in case anybody forgot, turnover on downs to take points 1449 01:12:39,080 --> 01:12:41,320 Speaker 2: off the board for Houston deep in their own territory, 1450 01:12:41,680 --> 01:12:44,680 Speaker 2: and then two turnovers in the fourth quarter along with 1451 01:12:45,080 --> 01:12:49,080 Speaker 2: turning CJ. Stroud into relatively ordinary quarterback. Yes he was 1452 01:12:49,120 --> 01:12:51,200 Speaker 2: sixteen to twenty three, but only for one hundred and 1453 01:12:51,200 --> 01:12:54,000 Speaker 2: forty four yards in the second half with an interception 1454 01:12:54,080 --> 01:12:56,439 Speaker 2: and a sixty eight passer rating and a fumble lost. 1455 01:12:56,920 --> 01:13:00,160 Speaker 2: So if you're going to give all this credit it 1456 01:13:00,240 --> 01:13:03,280 Speaker 2: to the defense, you got to kind of give that 1457 01:13:03,320 --> 01:13:05,920 Speaker 2: to the head coach as well. I mean, we can 1458 01:13:06,000 --> 01:13:10,080 Speaker 2: run down the list of defensive accomplishments during Sean McDermott's 1459 01:13:10,080 --> 01:13:14,000 Speaker 2: tenure as well. So if you want to put all 1460 01:13:14,040 --> 01:13:16,400 Speaker 2: of the blame on him for what happened at the 1461 01:13:16,479 --> 01:13:18,759 Speaker 2: end of the game, and look, they gave the game away. 1462 01:13:18,800 --> 01:13:20,880 Speaker 2: I'm not going to debate it for a second. Their 1463 01:13:20,920 --> 01:13:22,559 Speaker 2: decision at the end of the game on the last 1464 01:13:22,560 --> 01:13:24,840 Speaker 2: possession was wrong. The coach said it himself, we should 1465 01:13:24,880 --> 01:13:27,880 Speaker 2: have been taking the more efficient approach where his direct words, 1466 01:13:27,880 --> 01:13:31,559 Speaker 2: which to me means running the ball, so he understood 1467 01:13:31,600 --> 01:13:34,280 Speaker 2: it as soon as it was over. I know it's frustrating. 1468 01:13:34,439 --> 01:13:37,040 Speaker 2: It seems like he didn't learn from past mistakes. And 1469 01:13:37,400 --> 01:13:40,800 Speaker 2: you feel that's a fireable offense. That's your prerogative, that's 1470 01:13:40,800 --> 01:13:44,400 Speaker 2: your opinion as a fan. Ultimately, I don't think it's 1471 01:13:44,439 --> 01:13:47,320 Speaker 2: going to happen because the guy, as I said earlier, 1472 01:13:47,840 --> 01:13:52,240 Speaker 2: is the winningest head coach in Bill's history by winning percentage. 1473 01:13:52,360 --> 01:13:54,559 Speaker 2: That's better than a Hall of Famer in Marv Levy. 1474 01:13:54,840 --> 01:13:57,719 Speaker 2: It's better than a two time AFL champion and Lou Saban. 1475 01:13:58,080 --> 01:14:01,360 Speaker 2: So it's not happening. 1476 01:14:01,880 --> 01:14:04,880 Speaker 3: It's just not. Yeah, and I. 1477 01:14:04,840 --> 01:14:07,280 Speaker 2: Know that bothers you, and you have your reasons why, 1478 01:14:07,360 --> 01:14:09,120 Speaker 2: and you stated them all and we gave you your time. 1479 01:14:09,160 --> 01:14:10,680 Speaker 2: But that's where it is. 1480 01:14:10,720 --> 01:14:11,040 Speaker 3: I get it. 1481 01:14:11,120 --> 01:14:13,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, And it's hard, Yeah, And I get it. It's 1482 01:14:13,439 --> 01:14:16,120 Speaker 4: hard to defend, you know, the head coach on a 1483 01:14:16,200 --> 01:14:17,800 Speaker 4: day like today when he says, hey, it's my faul, 1484 01:14:17,840 --> 01:14:19,880 Speaker 4: I'm gonna take all the blame for it. I don't 1485 01:14:19,920 --> 01:14:22,400 Speaker 4: believe that's true, but he took the blame and it's 1486 01:14:22,400 --> 01:14:24,600 Speaker 4: his responsibility ultimately, no question about it. 1487 01:14:24,640 --> 01:14:26,080 Speaker 3: I've been we've been down. 1488 01:14:25,880 --> 01:14:27,760 Speaker 4: This road on every one of these tough losses, and 1489 01:14:27,960 --> 01:14:31,240 Speaker 4: there have been a ton of them, too many obviously 1490 01:14:31,320 --> 01:14:35,200 Speaker 4: for a lot of people's taste. And you've all heard 1491 01:14:35,240 --> 01:14:39,960 Speaker 4: my say about it. I mean, would the Philadelphia Eagles 1492 01:14:39,960 --> 01:14:41,720 Speaker 4: have won a Super Bowl before they did if they'd 1493 01:14:41,720 --> 01:14:45,320 Speaker 4: have held on Andy Reid because Andy Reid got fired 1494 01:14:45,360 --> 01:14:48,439 Speaker 4: in Philly because he was poor clock management, Yeah, and 1495 01:14:48,479 --> 01:14:50,200 Speaker 4: couldn't win the big one. Couldn't win a big one. 1496 01:14:50,560 --> 01:14:52,840 Speaker 4: I'll say this too. If you think Sean mcdermot's not 1497 01:14:52,920 --> 01:14:55,160 Speaker 4: good in big games, every playoff game in the National 1498 01:14:55,160 --> 01:14:57,280 Speaker 4: Football League is an enormous game, and he wins one 1499 01:14:57,320 --> 01:14:59,559 Speaker 4: of those every year every year. 1500 01:15:00,200 --> 01:15:04,360 Speaker 3: So that's you know, I don't know if I buy that. 1501 01:15:04,479 --> 01:15:07,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, Neil is clearly not satisfied with great 1502 01:15:07,160 --> 01:15:08,800 Speaker 2: success in the regular season, which is. 1503 01:15:08,760 --> 01:15:09,439 Speaker 3: What I get it. 1504 01:15:12,479 --> 01:15:14,439 Speaker 4: There's a lot of bottom line fans out there. If 1505 01:15:14,439 --> 01:15:16,320 Speaker 4: you don't win the big one. You stink and you 1506 01:15:16,320 --> 01:15:16,600 Speaker 4: need to. 1507 01:15:16,600 --> 01:15:17,440 Speaker 3: Be fired. 1508 01:15:19,280 --> 01:15:20,160 Speaker 2: Careful what you wish for. 1509 01:15:20,280 --> 01:15:22,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's I don't know. 1510 01:15:22,720 --> 01:15:25,200 Speaker 4: I I think you need shots on to be using 1511 01:15:25,240 --> 01:15:27,080 Speaker 4: another sports and now I think you need shots on goal. 1512 01:15:27,160 --> 01:15:30,519 Speaker 4: You got you're there every single year, and we've seen 1513 01:15:30,680 --> 01:15:34,880 Speaker 4: how many quirky, weird wild ways the Bills have found 1514 01:15:34,920 --> 01:15:37,599 Speaker 4: to lose games like this, not only in the regular season, 1515 01:15:37,600 --> 01:15:40,280 Speaker 4: but also in the postseason as well. They've also won 1516 01:15:40,360 --> 01:15:42,320 Speaker 4: a ton of them. And I and one of these 1517 01:15:42,600 --> 01:15:45,080 Speaker 4: I think maybe this year is going to be one 1518 01:15:45,080 --> 01:15:47,120 Speaker 4: of those where we don't get into one of those quirky, weird, 1519 01:15:47,200 --> 01:15:49,280 Speaker 4: wild scenarios that we come out on the short end 1520 01:15:49,280 --> 01:15:51,720 Speaker 4: of it, you know, give us a chance to get 1521 01:15:51,720 --> 01:15:55,080 Speaker 4: back there and take our shot again. This guy and 1522 01:15:55,120 --> 01:16:00,720 Speaker 4: this crew do that every year, and I'm I'm willing 1523 01:16:00,800 --> 01:16:02,760 Speaker 4: to go back and take my swing every year with 1524 01:16:02,840 --> 01:16:06,000 Speaker 4: this crew rather than take six steps back and find 1525 01:16:06,040 --> 01:16:10,440 Speaker 4: out the next guy, whoever that may be, has massive problems, 1526 01:16:10,520 --> 01:16:15,960 Speaker 4: not just clock management problems in a tight game. Yeah, 1527 01:16:16,000 --> 01:16:17,400 Speaker 4: so I'm with you. 1528 01:16:17,439 --> 01:16:19,720 Speaker 3: I hear you, Neil. You got every right to be 1529 01:16:19,800 --> 01:16:20,599 Speaker 3: ticked today. 1530 01:16:20,600 --> 01:16:21,960 Speaker 4: And I know there's a lot of people that are 1531 01:16:22,040 --> 01:16:24,760 Speaker 4: right in your shoes and we hear them every time 1532 01:16:24,800 --> 01:16:25,479 Speaker 4: this comes up. 1533 01:16:28,280 --> 01:16:30,360 Speaker 3: I just don't agree with everything he said. 1534 01:16:30,880 --> 01:16:32,880 Speaker 2: We have to take a break here, but your phone 1535 01:16:32,880 --> 01:16:34,960 Speaker 2: calls next, So if you're waiting on hold, stay there. 1536 01:16:35,000 --> 01:16:36,559 Speaker 2: We'll get to you when we return here on One 1537 01:16:36,600 --> 01:16:53,679 Speaker 2: Bill's Live. All right back here on One Bill's Live, 1538 01:16:53,760 --> 01:16:55,400 Speaker 2: Chris Brown Steve to ask her with you are goin 1539 01:16:55,439 --> 01:16:57,080 Speaker 2: to get right back to the phone, whereas some people 1540 01:16:57,120 --> 01:17:01,519 Speaker 2: are waiting patiently with their takeaways from yesterday's troubling lost 1541 01:17:01,680 --> 01:17:04,280 Speaker 2: at the hands of the Texans, And we go to 1542 01:17:04,479 --> 01:17:06,559 Speaker 2: Butcher on the east Side next, and Butch, we got 1543 01:17:06,560 --> 01:17:07,760 Speaker 2: a lot of people on the line. So if you 1544 01:17:07,800 --> 01:17:09,080 Speaker 2: could make it quick, that'd be great. 1545 01:17:09,840 --> 01:17:12,439 Speaker 17: Yeah, I'm gonna make you real quick. Thanks for taking 1546 01:17:12,479 --> 01:17:15,679 Speaker 17: marcole MSG I love him. W Jalman fans, I love you. 1547 01:17:15,720 --> 01:17:16,600 Speaker 11: But let me just tell you this. 1548 01:17:16,720 --> 01:17:19,559 Speaker 17: The last caller, I'm gonna concur with what he said. 1549 01:17:19,800 --> 01:17:22,559 Speaker 17: You know, I've been forty years, this has been on 1550 01:17:22,600 --> 01:17:25,240 Speaker 17: a radio station called for forty years. But far as 1551 01:17:25,280 --> 01:17:27,800 Speaker 17: being a Bills fan, as the Bills fan back in 1552 01:17:27,840 --> 01:17:30,800 Speaker 17: the late seventies, one thing I'm going to say right now, 1553 01:17:31,560 --> 01:17:34,439 Speaker 17: one thing in this if we're going to go into 1554 01:17:34,520 --> 01:17:38,639 Speaker 17: a new stadium and old fans like myself with these 1555 01:17:38,640 --> 01:17:41,760 Speaker 17: another young kids coming up as new fans. If you're 1556 01:17:41,760 --> 01:17:44,519 Speaker 17: going to just tell me that we're gonna go based 1557 01:17:44,520 --> 01:17:48,519 Speaker 17: off stats, based off wins losses, he's great. Or if 1558 01:17:48,520 --> 01:17:51,600 Speaker 17: that person's a starter, No, you're gonna have to have 1559 01:17:51,640 --> 01:17:55,360 Speaker 17: eleven starters anyway, whether it's defense, offensive, special teams. So 1560 01:17:55,439 --> 01:17:57,799 Speaker 17: regardless if you start, that'll mean you a better player 1561 01:17:58,160 --> 01:18:01,200 Speaker 17: second week. Just because you got more wins than anybody else, 1562 01:18:01,240 --> 01:18:01,599 Speaker 17: that don't. 1563 01:18:01,479 --> 01:18:02,360 Speaker 11: Mean you the best coach. 1564 01:18:02,680 --> 01:18:05,680 Speaker 17: Chuck Knox was better than the better than Sean McDermott. 1565 01:18:05,920 --> 01:18:09,040 Speaker 17: Marv Leedy is definitely better than Sean McDermott. So, don't 1566 01:18:09,040 --> 01:18:11,639 Speaker 17: get me wrong. I respect Sean. Don't get it twisted. 1567 01:18:11,960 --> 01:18:12,400 Speaker 11: I do. 1568 01:18:12,760 --> 01:18:16,599 Speaker 17: But at the same time, competency is very important when 1569 01:18:16,640 --> 01:18:19,439 Speaker 17: you talk about coaching. You've got to have some kind 1570 01:18:19,479 --> 01:18:22,000 Speaker 17: of a mindset to be a head coach. 1571 01:18:22,360 --> 01:18:23,400 Speaker 11: Don't get me wrong. 1572 01:18:23,600 --> 01:18:26,000 Speaker 17: He's on hook to day. He deserved to be on 1573 01:18:26,040 --> 01:18:28,559 Speaker 17: hook to day based off what happened. Thirty two seconds 1574 01:18:28,680 --> 01:18:30,920 Speaker 17: I'm gonna have to take with me, thirteen seconds I'm 1575 01:18:30,920 --> 01:18:32,600 Speaker 17: gonna have to take with me. But let me just 1576 01:18:32,640 --> 01:18:34,000 Speaker 17: say this, and I'm gonna hang out because I know 1577 01:18:34,040 --> 01:18:37,960 Speaker 17: you said you got a lot of calls. Money in 1578 01:18:38,000 --> 01:18:40,920 Speaker 17: this organization has always been the reason of why we 1579 01:18:41,000 --> 01:18:43,960 Speaker 17: play people so long. Instead of saying, well, let's try 1580 01:18:44,000 --> 01:18:46,800 Speaker 17: a person even though we pay a big contract, but 1581 01:18:46,880 --> 01:18:49,639 Speaker 17: if they're not performing, let's move on from our money. 1582 01:18:50,080 --> 01:18:54,160 Speaker 17: We brought two receivers in. We brought Ellis and we 1583 01:18:54,280 --> 01:18:57,760 Speaker 17: brought Sambue in. Here they knew guy. Yeah, you could say, well, 1584 01:18:57,800 --> 01:19:01,639 Speaker 17: Samuel was with Brady and Carolina before he went to Washington. 1585 01:19:01,720 --> 01:19:02,200 Speaker 11: That was here. 1586 01:19:02,280 --> 01:19:05,360 Speaker 17: Say back then right now in our group, as we 1587 01:19:05,479 --> 01:19:06,360 Speaker 17: always say. 1588 01:19:06,560 --> 01:19:09,320 Speaker 11: Trust the system. That's been our model for. 1589 01:19:09,320 --> 01:19:10,880 Speaker 17: I don't know how many years since Shawn and those 1590 01:19:10,920 --> 01:19:12,800 Speaker 17: guys been and go get it twisted again. 1591 01:19:13,120 --> 01:19:15,880 Speaker 11: I do trust the system. But in the system you 1592 01:19:15,960 --> 01:19:16,240 Speaker 11: have to. 1593 01:19:16,360 --> 01:19:19,960 Speaker 17: Just like you promoted Brady and Dorsey from within, you 1594 01:19:20,040 --> 01:19:23,800 Speaker 17: promote your players within that don't paid their dues. You had, 1595 01:19:24,000 --> 01:19:29,280 Speaker 17: you had Terrell Shavers who played with Diggs, all those 1596 01:19:29,320 --> 01:19:31,519 Speaker 17: other guys, all the guys they came up through the 1597 01:19:31,560 --> 01:19:34,639 Speaker 17: ranks in practice. Now, yeah he got opportunity to dress 1598 01:19:34,640 --> 01:19:37,000 Speaker 17: the other day. You don't run place to him. You're 1599 01:19:37,040 --> 01:19:39,960 Speaker 17: still playing Ellis and you're still playing Samuel. He's trying 1600 01:19:39,960 --> 01:19:42,439 Speaker 17: to justify the means because us. 1601 01:19:42,920 --> 01:19:45,200 Speaker 3: But who's Ellis? Who's Ellis? 1602 01:19:45,280 --> 01:19:45,400 Speaker 5: Oh? 1603 01:19:45,520 --> 01:19:49,840 Speaker 17: Sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Hollis correct Thanks, okay, real quick, 1604 01:19:49,880 --> 01:19:53,920 Speaker 17: real quick, I'm hanging up. Thanks, say Steve correctly, Hollis. Hollis, 1605 01:19:54,040 --> 01:19:55,600 Speaker 17: you know you got you hold him, Hollis and you 1606 01:19:55,680 --> 01:19:57,360 Speaker 17: hold Sammy. Okay, you keep me. 1607 01:19:57,439 --> 01:19:59,360 Speaker 11: These guys keep forcing us like we. 1608 01:19:59,400 --> 01:20:02,280 Speaker 17: Uneducated what football is really supposed to be like or what. 1609 01:20:02,280 --> 01:20:03,120 Speaker 11: Is supposed to be played. 1610 01:20:03,160 --> 01:20:05,880 Speaker 17: Like we had Steve Tasterer who go to four Super Bowls, 1611 01:20:06,000 --> 01:20:07,880 Speaker 17: they could have went the six, so we know what 1612 01:20:07,960 --> 01:20:11,360 Speaker 17: good football, what goofball players are So please moving forward 1613 01:20:11,400 --> 01:20:13,280 Speaker 17: with this. And I'm saying this and I'm going after this, 1614 01:20:13,360 --> 01:20:16,120 Speaker 17: and thanks for taking my call. One bills drive. Let 1615 01:20:16,120 --> 01:20:19,840 Speaker 17: me tell you now, shut Hollis down. Let's save a start, 1616 01:20:20,080 --> 01:20:23,000 Speaker 17: and you've got handling out there. You try these guys 1617 01:20:23,000 --> 01:20:26,519 Speaker 17: that's already practicing, working hard, just like everybody else, because 1618 01:20:26,520 --> 01:20:28,880 Speaker 17: we don't play five games, and what we end up 1619 01:20:28,880 --> 01:20:31,479 Speaker 17: seeing with these other two guys, it ain't working. And 1620 01:20:31,520 --> 01:20:33,880 Speaker 17: you're getting our quarterback kills. And I'm letting you know 1621 01:20:33,960 --> 01:20:35,920 Speaker 17: now don't do it. Thank you so much, guys. I 1622 01:20:35,960 --> 01:20:36,720 Speaker 17: love you all right. 1623 01:20:36,760 --> 01:20:39,240 Speaker 2: Thanks Butch, We're gonna move along and go to Mark 1624 01:20:39,280 --> 01:20:40,160 Speaker 2: and Jersey City. 1625 01:20:40,200 --> 01:20:44,040 Speaker 18: What's up Mark, Good afternoon, gentlemen. Thanks taking my call. 1626 01:20:44,360 --> 01:20:46,160 Speaker 18: I'm going to be a glass half full kind of 1627 01:20:46,160 --> 01:20:50,280 Speaker 18: guy because it's week five and you know, people are 1628 01:20:50,520 --> 01:20:52,400 Speaker 18: the sky is falling. Well, there's twelve more games left, 1629 01:20:52,600 --> 01:20:55,599 Speaker 18: and you cannot do that as a collective group coaches 1630 01:20:55,640 --> 01:20:57,599 Speaker 18: of players. Otherwise you're just going to book end these 1631 01:20:57,640 --> 01:21:02,400 Speaker 18: type of performances. These players on offense, they haven't been 1632 01:21:02,400 --> 01:21:05,280 Speaker 18: in these situations before, and they look like it. You 1633 01:21:05,360 --> 01:21:08,320 Speaker 18: see Samuel just not know what the play is, and 1634 01:21:08,600 --> 01:21:10,640 Speaker 18: you know, it just seems like when they try to 1635 01:21:10,640 --> 01:21:12,400 Speaker 18: get him the ball, it's behind the line of scrimmage 1636 01:21:12,520 --> 01:21:15,240 Speaker 18: or something bad happens. Coleman getting hit in the back 1637 01:21:15,280 --> 01:21:17,599 Speaker 18: of the head with the ball not knowing Josh made 1638 01:21:17,600 --> 01:21:20,080 Speaker 18: an adjustment, but he rebounds on a fourth and five, 1639 01:21:20,680 --> 01:21:23,639 Speaker 18: and I think they're kind of trying to crescendo him 1640 01:21:23,640 --> 01:21:26,160 Speaker 18: not too much put on his plate too much too soon. 1641 01:21:26,800 --> 01:21:29,040 Speaker 18: But you know the rest of the guys, I feel 1642 01:21:29,040 --> 01:21:31,320 Speaker 18: like Hamiler should have been up yesterday instead of Shavers. 1643 01:21:31,520 --> 01:21:33,719 Speaker 18: If if Josh was, you know, looking for some quick 1644 01:21:33,760 --> 01:21:37,120 Speaker 18: answers or you know, he hit Cook early in the game, 1645 01:21:37,479 --> 01:21:39,280 Speaker 18: kind of like what we saw in Jacksonville, and he 1646 01:21:39,360 --> 01:21:40,960 Speaker 18: never went back to it. I know that must have 1647 01:21:40,960 --> 01:21:44,360 Speaker 18: been frustrating for UCB, and he just seemed like with 1648 01:21:44,439 --> 01:21:46,519 Speaker 18: the big storyline, he just wanted to get the game 1649 01:21:46,560 --> 01:21:49,240 Speaker 18: over with. He looked tacks. He was doing the sugar 1650 01:21:49,320 --> 01:21:51,400 Speaker 18: high stuff, the one rollout where he almost threw the 1651 01:21:51,439 --> 01:21:55,519 Speaker 18: pick back across his back half, yeah, yeah, and missing. 1652 01:21:56,000 --> 01:21:58,240 Speaker 18: I think the bigger miss was Kinkaid down the scene 1653 01:21:58,360 --> 01:22:01,479 Speaker 18: he had him and you know, just setting his feet 1654 01:22:01,520 --> 01:22:03,759 Speaker 18: and just just letting the guy run under it instead 1655 01:22:03,760 --> 01:22:07,919 Speaker 18: of like overthrowing it. But on defense, they got some players. 1656 01:22:08,280 --> 01:22:10,519 Speaker 18: I don't know if it was that UCB, the Kyle 1657 01:22:10,600 --> 01:22:12,200 Speaker 18: Williams Carter Cup. 1658 01:22:12,640 --> 01:22:14,760 Speaker 2: I say, he reminds me of Williams, a little bit 1659 01:22:14,800 --> 01:22:15,360 Speaker 2: smart player. 1660 01:22:16,439 --> 01:22:20,120 Speaker 18: You you you're you're getting that one right. And Dorian Williams. 1661 01:22:21,040 --> 01:22:21,280 Speaker 11: Yeah. 1662 01:22:21,560 --> 01:22:23,599 Speaker 18: I mean, I don't know when the last time they 1663 01:22:23,600 --> 01:22:26,400 Speaker 18: had a run and Chase hit linebacker like that. Maybe 1664 01:22:26,439 --> 01:22:28,720 Speaker 18: it was Angel Correl before he messed his knee up. 1665 01:22:29,240 --> 01:22:32,479 Speaker 18: But he looks physical plays downhill. I mean he missed 1666 01:22:32,479 --> 01:22:35,040 Speaker 18: one tackle on Stroud, but you know, everybody had their 1667 01:22:35,040 --> 01:22:37,080 Speaker 18: hand in it yesterday. But they gave them some chances 1668 01:22:37,120 --> 01:22:39,200 Speaker 18: and he's always around the ball. He's recovered his second 1669 01:22:39,280 --> 01:22:41,960 Speaker 18: or third fumble of the year. They got some young 1670 01:22:42,000 --> 01:22:46,520 Speaker 18: players on defense and they fought back, made plays, got turnovers, 1671 01:22:47,840 --> 01:22:51,360 Speaker 18: and you know, I think everybody is just kind of 1672 01:22:51,520 --> 01:22:54,080 Speaker 18: needs to relax today. I think they'll get it figured out. 1673 01:22:54,640 --> 01:22:57,360 Speaker 4: I'll say this, some of this made me think about it, 1674 01:22:57,360 --> 01:22:59,360 Speaker 4: and I got it. We all now it's kind of 1675 01:22:59,360 --> 01:23:02,400 Speaker 4: a punch line. Now everybody eats. Everybody's making fun of 1676 01:23:02,400 --> 01:23:04,920 Speaker 4: that now on a day like today. But I think 1677 01:23:04,960 --> 01:23:08,760 Speaker 4: maybe you might be right, maybe less of that. I mean, 1678 01:23:08,840 --> 01:23:12,880 Speaker 4: you got some guys out there who performed. Certainly Shaki 1679 01:23:13,040 --> 01:23:14,600 Speaker 4: was not in the lineup yesterday, and I think that 1680 01:23:14,680 --> 01:23:16,800 Speaker 4: did make a difference for this offense. But Cook and 1681 01:23:16,880 --> 01:23:22,280 Speaker 4: Kinkaid have played well and you can kind of depend 1682 01:23:22,360 --> 01:23:24,679 Speaker 4: on them. And if somebody who elevates to get into 1683 01:23:24,680 --> 01:23:27,599 Speaker 4: that along with Shakir, I mean that's you got Cook, 1684 01:23:27,640 --> 01:23:32,479 Speaker 4: Shakiir Kinkaid. Maybe feed those guys a little bit more, 1685 01:23:32,560 --> 01:23:34,840 Speaker 4: Get the guys who you know are performing and feed 1686 01:23:34,880 --> 01:23:36,640 Speaker 4: them the ball and stop trying to fit in a 1687 01:23:36,640 --> 01:23:38,880 Speaker 4: couple of targets to this guy and to that guy 1688 01:23:39,160 --> 01:23:42,000 Speaker 4: and to these other guys. Pick some guys and go 1689 01:23:42,120 --> 01:23:45,840 Speaker 4: with them, because I think it's hard for players too, 1690 01:23:46,720 --> 01:23:49,120 Speaker 4: you know, even if they're working hard and earning it, 1691 01:23:49,479 --> 01:23:50,760 Speaker 4: to get into the flow of a game and say, 1692 01:23:51,040 --> 01:23:53,040 Speaker 4: I get three targets this game, and I don't know 1693 01:23:53,080 --> 01:23:53,840 Speaker 4: when they're going to be. 1694 01:23:55,120 --> 01:23:58,160 Speaker 2: I'm just saying right now, narrow it down. Yeah, narrow 1695 01:23:58,200 --> 01:24:02,240 Speaker 2: it down. May Cook a featured guy, and I'm telling 1696 01:24:02,280 --> 01:24:06,519 Speaker 2: you he is the most dynamic athlete on offense next 1697 01:24:06,520 --> 01:24:09,240 Speaker 2: to Josh Allen. He's got to get the ball more 1698 01:24:09,240 --> 01:24:11,160 Speaker 2: in the passing game because he's a guy that can 1699 01:24:11,320 --> 01:24:14,519 Speaker 2: create separation. He's athletic enough to do that. Yeah, so 1700 01:24:14,720 --> 01:24:17,679 Speaker 2: is Shakir. So those two guys are one and two 1701 01:24:17,760 --> 01:24:20,920 Speaker 2: in my passing game. And then Kincaid is three. And 1702 01:24:20,960 --> 01:24:22,920 Speaker 2: if you want to bring Coleman along and make him 1703 01:24:22,920 --> 01:24:25,679 Speaker 2: your four, fine, But I wouldn't mind going back to Dawson. 1704 01:24:25,760 --> 01:24:28,240 Speaker 2: Knox big target in the passing game has made plays 1705 01:24:28,240 --> 01:24:31,200 Speaker 2: in the past. That's the continuity. You have to rediscover that. 1706 01:24:31,320 --> 01:24:34,559 Speaker 4: When you yesterday. And I'm not saying throw the whole 1707 01:24:34,800 --> 01:24:37,679 Speaker 4: plan and the whole you know, blueprint out. But I'll 1708 01:24:37,680 --> 01:24:39,760 Speaker 4: say this too, yesterday in a game, after a game 1709 01:24:39,840 --> 01:24:43,240 Speaker 4: like yesterday, you really feel like they need to focus 1710 01:24:43,680 --> 01:24:48,160 Speaker 4: on some guys. You know, great coaches in the past 1711 01:24:48,200 --> 01:24:50,680 Speaker 4: have always said when you get into these tight situations 1712 01:24:50,680 --> 01:24:53,400 Speaker 4: and you get into these games, you don't think plays 1713 01:24:53,400 --> 01:24:56,840 Speaker 4: like run or pass or short pass, long pass, screen pass, whatever. 1714 01:24:57,040 --> 01:25:01,599 Speaker 4: You think players matchups. You think players, not plays. And 1715 01:25:01,920 --> 01:25:04,800 Speaker 4: I think the Bills on a game like yesterday, when 1716 01:25:04,800 --> 01:25:07,960 Speaker 4: your quarterback is all over the map is nine for thirty, 1717 01:25:09,120 --> 01:25:12,160 Speaker 4: give him some focus and help him out that way. 1718 01:25:12,360 --> 01:25:15,559 Speaker 4: I'll listen to that conversation. That makes some sense to me. 1719 01:25:17,280 --> 01:25:21,200 Speaker 4: But I still like this group. But they do have 1720 01:25:21,240 --> 01:25:23,439 Speaker 4: some things they got to tighten up and fix, no question. 1721 01:25:23,960 --> 01:25:25,680 Speaker 2: All right, let's get back to the phones because we've 1722 01:25:25,680 --> 01:25:28,080 Speaker 2: had people waiting. We go to Judy in Buffalo next. 1723 01:25:28,120 --> 01:25:28,759 Speaker 2: What's up Judy? 1724 01:25:30,920 --> 01:25:31,400 Speaker 11: All right? 1725 01:25:31,800 --> 01:25:32,559 Speaker 5: Two things. 1726 01:25:32,840 --> 01:25:35,599 Speaker 19: You know, I'm not upset because right from the beginning 1727 01:25:35,640 --> 01:25:37,600 Speaker 19: I said the Bills had to go four to in 1728 01:25:37,640 --> 01:25:40,519 Speaker 19: the first six games. So now we're down to the 1729 01:25:40,560 --> 01:25:44,120 Speaker 19: game that we really need to win, and we're going 1730 01:25:44,160 --> 01:25:48,960 Speaker 19: to be playing a team that is diminished offensively as 1731 01:25:49,040 --> 01:25:52,120 Speaker 19: much as we are. Everybody is hurting on both of 1732 01:25:52,200 --> 01:25:57,679 Speaker 19: these teams. I think Aaron Rodgers is playing on one 1733 01:25:57,720 --> 01:26:00,680 Speaker 19: and a half legs, so maybe we can make a 1734 01:26:00,680 --> 01:26:02,880 Speaker 19: difference here. The worst thing that could probably happen to 1735 01:26:02,920 --> 01:26:06,080 Speaker 19: us is they take him out and they put tyrod Taylor, 1736 01:26:06,120 --> 01:26:07,400 Speaker 19: and that would be bad. 1737 01:26:08,479 --> 01:26:08,679 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1738 01:26:08,800 --> 01:26:11,160 Speaker 19: The other thing, the other thing I want to mention 1739 01:26:11,320 --> 01:26:15,160 Speaker 19: is this, I would now, I would call up the 1740 01:26:15,160 --> 01:26:20,560 Speaker 19: Green Bay Packers, who have a four of young talented receivers, 1741 01:26:21,320 --> 01:26:26,520 Speaker 19: and offer a second round pick for Dobbs, who apparently 1742 01:26:26,880 --> 01:26:30,240 Speaker 19: is unhappy with his situation there. I think that would 1743 01:26:30,400 --> 01:26:33,440 Speaker 19: upgrade our receiving staff tremendously. 1744 01:26:34,280 --> 01:26:36,599 Speaker 2: All right, Yeah, I mean Dobbs is a guy that 1745 01:26:37,000 --> 01:26:39,439 Speaker 2: pretty much went a wall last week. He was unhappy 1746 01:26:39,439 --> 01:26:41,760 Speaker 2: with his role in the offense and just didn't show 1747 01:26:41,800 --> 01:26:46,160 Speaker 2: up to work for two days. Didn't show up. Yeah, 1748 01:26:46,240 --> 01:26:49,799 Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know if that runs runs 1749 01:26:50,320 --> 01:26:53,599 Speaker 2: in concert with the kind of operation coach McDermott likes 1750 01:26:53,640 --> 01:26:58,519 Speaker 2: to run here. But I get what you're saying, a guy. 1751 01:26:58,920 --> 01:27:01,120 Speaker 3: You might be able to get him, cheat you're not. 1752 01:27:01,200 --> 01:27:03,320 Speaker 4: You're if you're gonna go get Dobbs, you're not gonna 1753 01:27:03,320 --> 01:27:05,120 Speaker 4: give up a two for him. You get five, they're 1754 01:27:05,120 --> 01:27:07,800 Speaker 4: gonna read. They'll be ready to pedal him. A five 1755 01:27:07,840 --> 01:27:10,320 Speaker 4: would they would be jumping, they'd be doing cartwheels. I 1756 01:27:10,320 --> 01:27:12,760 Speaker 4: don't know if Yeah, I get it. Make a move 1757 01:27:12,800 --> 01:27:17,559 Speaker 4: for a guy, Yeah, I'm I'm And you're right, Judy. 1758 01:27:17,640 --> 01:27:20,400 Speaker 4: Everything you said was was right you You've been calling 1759 01:27:20,400 --> 01:27:23,880 Speaker 4: it four and two after six games for a month now, 1760 01:27:24,560 --> 01:27:25,280 Speaker 4: and I get it. 1761 01:27:25,320 --> 01:27:26,519 Speaker 2: And that chance is still out there. 1762 01:27:26,560 --> 01:27:27,400 Speaker 3: It's still out there. 1763 01:27:27,800 --> 01:27:32,000 Speaker 4: This Jet game is these first the first matchup of 1764 01:27:32,040 --> 01:27:35,000 Speaker 4: the Jets series in each season has been to me, 1765 01:27:35,360 --> 01:27:39,040 Speaker 4: it seems like we always struggle struggle against those guys. 1766 01:27:39,080 --> 01:27:40,760 Speaker 4: Like last year we beat him big time at the 1767 01:27:40,840 --> 01:27:42,400 Speaker 4: end of the season. Of course at Rogers wasn't there, 1768 01:27:42,400 --> 01:27:45,439 Speaker 4: but he wasn't there the first matchup either. We still 1769 01:27:45,439 --> 01:27:47,920 Speaker 4: couldn't do it. So it's a it's a problem. Their 1770 01:27:47,960 --> 01:27:50,960 Speaker 4: defense is really salty. They're a good bunch, so it's 1771 01:27:51,160 --> 01:27:53,920 Speaker 4: they're gonna be up against it this week. But you're right, 1772 01:27:53,960 --> 01:27:55,760 Speaker 4: you said you called it from the word and and 1773 01:27:55,880 --> 01:28:00,479 Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers I called that myself. A thousand snaps is 1774 01:28:00,520 --> 01:28:03,559 Speaker 4: a long time and he's got to get it done. 1775 01:28:03,600 --> 01:28:05,400 Speaker 4: He's starting to get nicked up. He had a swollen 1776 01:28:05,479 --> 01:28:07,759 Speaker 4: knee last week. Now this week he rolled his ankle. 1777 01:28:08,560 --> 01:28:08,840 Speaker 3: Uh. 1778 01:28:08,920 --> 01:28:12,680 Speaker 4: It does not look good, man, But they get an 1779 01:28:12,680 --> 01:28:15,719 Speaker 4: extra day to get ready. You gotta think he's gonna 1780 01:28:15,720 --> 01:28:16,760 Speaker 4: be ready to play. 1781 01:28:18,240 --> 01:28:18,679 Speaker 3: As well. 1782 01:28:18,680 --> 01:28:22,439 Speaker 4: So I'm yeah, there these are two teams that are 1783 01:28:22,439 --> 01:28:24,960 Speaker 4: at the you know right now, the last two teams 1784 01:28:24,960 --> 01:28:27,320 Speaker 4: in the division standing, so that this is an enormous 1785 01:28:27,360 --> 01:28:30,800 Speaker 4: game for Buffalo. But I have more faith in this 1786 01:28:30,840 --> 01:28:33,360 Speaker 4: group of wideouts and skill position players than I think 1787 01:28:33,360 --> 01:28:36,240 Speaker 4: most people do today. I'm I'm not ready to kick 1788 01:28:36,320 --> 01:28:38,680 Speaker 4: him to the curb quite yet or bring in a 1789 01:28:38,720 --> 01:28:41,000 Speaker 4: guy like Dobbs from Green Bay Ache any day. 1790 01:28:41,080 --> 01:28:43,680 Speaker 2: I'm not expanding the pool. I am streamlining it. Yeah, 1791 01:28:43,680 --> 01:28:46,400 Speaker 2: and giving the guys I mentioned more playing time. 1792 01:28:46,479 --> 01:28:47,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I'm asking. 1793 01:28:47,560 --> 01:28:52,280 Speaker 2: The game Kinkaid, Shakir, Coleman, Dawson Knox. Yeah, Brownie and 1794 01:28:52,320 --> 01:28:53,679 Speaker 2: I didn't get the table. 1795 01:28:54,160 --> 01:28:56,280 Speaker 4: Brownie and I didn't talk about this before the show, 1796 01:28:56,280 --> 01:28:58,400 Speaker 4: but I think we've kind of talked ourselves down this 1797 01:28:58,600 --> 01:29:03,840 Speaker 4: road together. I'm ready to to let the big dogs 1798 01:29:03,880 --> 01:29:09,320 Speaker 4: eat not everybody. So I'll listen to that conversation a 1799 01:29:09,360 --> 01:29:12,439 Speaker 4: little bit, but I'm not ready to bring in yet 1800 01:29:12,479 --> 01:29:13,400 Speaker 4: another mouth to feed. 1801 01:29:14,080 --> 01:29:15,960 Speaker 2: Break time for us more of your phone calls when 1802 01:29:16,040 --> 01:29:18,120 Speaker 2: we come back, because we're wide open for phone calls 1803 01:29:18,160 --> 01:29:19,800 Speaker 2: only the rest of the way here, So sit tight. 1804 01:29:19,840 --> 01:29:38,320 Speaker 2: We'll get to you here. 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I got to get back 1811 01:30:01,880 --> 01:30:04,679 Speaker 2: to the phones here on a Buffalo Football Monday, Chris Brown, 1812 01:30:04,720 --> 01:30:08,040 Speaker 2: Steve Tasker with you as you look at our adornment 1813 01:30:08,600 --> 01:30:11,360 Speaker 2: of rold Gold and Tostitos those of you watching on MSG. 1814 01:30:11,960 --> 01:30:13,559 Speaker 2: But we got to get back to the phones. There 1815 01:30:13,600 --> 01:30:15,479 Speaker 2: have been a lot of people waiting for a bit here, 1816 01:30:16,080 --> 01:30:18,120 Speaker 2: and let me see who has been waiting the longest. 1817 01:30:18,200 --> 01:30:21,280 Speaker 2: Here we go to Rick and Ken Moore next wait 1818 01:30:21,320 --> 01:30:22,760 Speaker 2: got for us Rick here on One Bill's Live. 1819 01:30:22,840 --> 01:30:25,599 Speaker 5: He thank you for taking my call. Let me first 1820 01:30:25,600 --> 01:30:28,759 Speaker 5: shut off by saying, I'm in the camp promac Dermot 1821 01:30:28,760 --> 01:30:31,200 Speaker 5: camp all the way and nothing is changed in that. 1822 01:30:31,800 --> 01:30:34,719 Speaker 5: But you know, as far as you know, I can't 1823 01:30:34,760 --> 01:30:37,840 Speaker 5: see us. We'd be trying to replace him, and a 1824 01:30:37,840 --> 01:30:39,280 Speaker 5: lot of people think he should be fired. 1825 01:30:39,320 --> 01:30:39,680 Speaker 11: I do not. 1826 01:30:40,200 --> 01:30:42,400 Speaker 5: I do not agree with that at all. I think 1827 01:30:42,400 --> 01:30:45,679 Speaker 5: we'd be spinning our wheels and we'd be hard pressed 1828 01:30:46,040 --> 01:30:48,360 Speaker 5: to replace a guy like that, you know. And then 1829 01:30:48,720 --> 01:30:51,360 Speaker 5: I've got a few years experience behind me. I think 1830 01:30:51,400 --> 01:30:55,160 Speaker 5: it's a little bit educated whatever, you know. And yesterday 1831 01:30:55,320 --> 01:30:58,400 Speaker 5: was it wasn't about winning or losing. It was more 1832 01:30:58,439 --> 01:31:01,840 Speaker 5: about letting the Texans win in regulation. You know, I 1833 01:31:01,920 --> 01:31:06,120 Speaker 5: attribute I attribute thirteen seconds to a learning experience, and 1834 01:31:06,120 --> 01:31:08,280 Speaker 5: I'd say a whole lot went on behind the scenes 1835 01:31:08,280 --> 01:31:10,800 Speaker 5: that maybe I'm guessing that we don't know about. And 1836 01:31:10,880 --> 01:31:14,519 Speaker 5: I'm talking about Leslie Fraser and I'm talking about why 1837 01:31:14,520 --> 01:31:17,880 Speaker 5: did our special teams person go on to another team 1838 01:31:17,920 --> 01:31:20,719 Speaker 5: at that time? You know, yeah, you know that definitely, 1839 01:31:20,800 --> 01:31:23,040 Speaker 5: that's only like three or four that's only four years ago, 1840 01:31:23,360 --> 01:31:26,280 Speaker 5: so that's like a lot a lot more recent. I mean, 1841 01:31:26,439 --> 01:31:29,439 Speaker 5: as far as the time McDermott was a head coach 1842 01:31:29,560 --> 01:31:32,839 Speaker 5: till he experienced that less time has passed. Now we're talking, 1843 01:31:32,920 --> 01:31:36,400 Speaker 5: like Kevin. I totally agree with Kevin from Hamburg's call earlier. 1844 01:31:36,600 --> 01:31:38,960 Speaker 5: We're talking seven eight years now that he's been at 1845 01:31:39,000 --> 01:31:42,760 Speaker 5: the Helm, you know, and as far as starting out 1846 01:31:42,840 --> 01:31:46,599 Speaker 5: those last possessions, starting out on the three yard line, 1847 01:31:46,640 --> 01:31:49,880 Speaker 5: that kind of dictated even more so, how we should, 1848 01:31:50,120 --> 01:31:54,800 Speaker 5: you know, address that particular situation. And you know, I mean, 1849 01:31:54,920 --> 01:31:58,200 Speaker 5: as far as I'm concerned, it's on me. Is the 1850 01:31:58,240 --> 01:32:01,559 Speaker 5: biggest understatement all of a sudden. I mean, there's no 1851 01:32:02,560 --> 01:32:05,160 Speaker 5: I couldn't believe what was going on yesterday in that call. 1852 01:32:05,479 --> 01:32:08,640 Speaker 5: There's a whole lot one on it before that happens. 1853 01:32:08,640 --> 01:32:11,639 Speaker 5: Don't get me wrong, we didn't. We didn't play that well, 1854 01:32:11,680 --> 01:32:13,640 Speaker 5: and there was a lot of mistakes going on, you know, 1855 01:32:14,320 --> 01:32:18,639 Speaker 5: but uh, you know, I just you know, I you know. 1856 01:32:18,680 --> 01:32:19,439 Speaker 11: I don't know, you know. 1857 01:32:19,520 --> 01:32:21,800 Speaker 5: I mean, that's all I gotta say. I mean, yeah, 1858 01:32:21,840 --> 01:32:25,479 Speaker 5: it's you know, going back to Kevin's statement that he's 1859 01:32:25,520 --> 01:32:28,639 Speaker 5: had his time, I mean, I have no confidence if 1860 01:32:28,640 --> 01:32:30,240 Speaker 5: we were, if the bill were ever to reach a 1861 01:32:30,280 --> 01:32:33,519 Speaker 5: crucial game down the road. I mean, I'm all in 1862 01:32:33,600 --> 01:32:36,639 Speaker 5: on McDermott. But as far as having confidence in him 1863 01:32:36,640 --> 01:32:39,160 Speaker 5: making a decision if it comes to it, I don't. 1864 01:32:39,200 --> 01:32:41,519 Speaker 5: I don't have that anymore. And until he does it, 1865 01:32:41,720 --> 01:32:44,040 Speaker 5: until it happens, it's not gonna happen. 1866 01:32:43,800 --> 01:32:47,439 Speaker 2: For me, right, Okay, fair enough, Rick, I mean, look 1867 01:32:47,720 --> 01:32:49,760 Speaker 2: what happened at the end of the game. It's hard 1868 01:32:49,760 --> 01:32:52,280 Speaker 2: to defend. I'll be the first to tell you that. 1869 01:32:52,760 --> 01:32:55,080 Speaker 2: And yeah, you want a coach to learn from their 1870 01:32:55,080 --> 01:32:56,960 Speaker 2: mistakes and be better because of it. And when you 1871 01:32:57,000 --> 01:33:02,400 Speaker 2: see a mess up like this, yeah, it's discouraging and 1872 01:33:02,439 --> 01:33:05,160 Speaker 2: maybe it does tarnish your faith in the guy calling 1873 01:33:05,200 --> 01:33:09,200 Speaker 2: the shots on the sidelines. I'll just say this. I 1874 01:33:09,200 --> 01:33:12,519 Speaker 2: think we all feel like sometimes and I'm not trying 1875 01:33:12,520 --> 01:33:15,160 Speaker 2: to compare this to NFL football, but I guess in 1876 01:33:15,160 --> 01:33:17,000 Speaker 2: a way, I'm trying to make an analogy and draw 1877 01:33:17,040 --> 01:33:22,200 Speaker 2: a parallel. We all feel like we're better at whatever 1878 01:33:22,240 --> 01:33:24,519 Speaker 2: it is that we do. The more experience we get. 1879 01:33:25,320 --> 01:33:27,320 Speaker 2: Doesn't mean that we're gonna be perfect the rest of 1880 01:33:27,360 --> 01:33:31,720 Speaker 2: the way. We're not. I mean, I'm not perfect. I 1881 01:33:31,800 --> 01:33:33,760 Speaker 2: try really hard to be the best play by play 1882 01:33:33,760 --> 01:33:36,840 Speaker 2: broadcaster I can on the radio, and I try to 1883 01:33:36,920 --> 01:33:39,840 Speaker 2: learn from mistakes that I make over the course of 1884 01:33:39,880 --> 01:33:44,280 Speaker 2: a three and a half hour broadcast, But sometimes in 1885 01:33:44,320 --> 01:33:48,960 Speaker 2: the moment I'm not gonna nail it. It's not because 1886 01:33:49,000 --> 01:33:51,839 Speaker 2: I'm not trying, and it's not because I haven't learned lessons. 1887 01:33:51,960 --> 01:33:53,840 Speaker 2: And maybe that's a lot different than coaching an NFL 1888 01:33:53,840 --> 01:33:57,519 Speaker 2: football game. But my point is, even though you try 1889 01:33:57,560 --> 01:34:00,240 Speaker 2: your darnedest to be perfect, perfect is something, and it's 1890 01:34:00,240 --> 01:34:03,000 Speaker 2: difficult to be sometimes not trying to let him off 1891 01:34:03,040 --> 01:34:05,200 Speaker 2: the hook because it's hard to defend. But that's just 1892 01:34:05,280 --> 01:34:06,479 Speaker 2: kind of where I'm coming from on it. 1893 01:34:06,920 --> 01:34:10,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm I'm with you, and it's it's easy to 1894 01:34:10,160 --> 01:34:18,120 Speaker 4: sit here and you know, do that to throw Sean 1895 01:34:18,160 --> 01:34:20,200 Speaker 4: McDermott under the bus and do he's you know he's 1896 01:34:20,240 --> 01:34:22,120 Speaker 4: and think he's never gonna get it, he's never going 1897 01:34:22,200 --> 01:34:25,800 Speaker 4: to be the right guy because he hasn't got any better. 1898 01:34:25,840 --> 01:34:28,920 Speaker 3: We don't like it. I don't know. I'm not quite 1899 01:34:28,920 --> 01:34:29,320 Speaker 3: there yet. 1900 01:34:29,320 --> 01:34:31,799 Speaker 4: They handled the end of the Arizona Cardinals game earlier 1901 01:34:31,840 --> 01:34:37,280 Speaker 4: this season really well. You go back and there's you 1902 01:34:37,320 --> 01:34:40,479 Speaker 4: know that they beat the Tampa Bay Buccaneers last year 1903 01:34:40,479 --> 01:34:43,559 Speaker 4: by six points. They you know, they win against the 1904 01:34:43,680 --> 01:34:46,160 Speaker 4: Jets well, not that one so much. But you know, 1905 01:34:46,200 --> 01:34:48,559 Speaker 4: they get beat by a fifty nine yard kick in 1906 01:34:48,640 --> 01:34:51,960 Speaker 4: the rainstorm in Philly last year and lose in overtime. 1907 01:34:52,520 --> 01:34:56,000 Speaker 3: Otherwise they're you know, they win seven or eight. 1908 01:34:56,320 --> 01:34:59,120 Speaker 4: They win seven straight down the road instead of just 1909 01:34:59,320 --> 01:35:02,920 Speaker 4: five straight. They beat the Kansas City twenty Chiefs twenty 1910 01:35:03,000 --> 01:35:06,639 Speaker 4: seventeen last year December tenth, they beat him by three points. 1911 01:35:06,800 --> 01:35:09,679 Speaker 4: They got clock management, they did exactly right down that stretch. 1912 01:35:10,080 --> 01:35:13,840 Speaker 4: The Chargers win last year in December twenty third, right 1913 01:35:13,840 --> 01:35:16,679 Speaker 4: before Christmas. They beat him by two points. They handled 1914 01:35:16,680 --> 01:35:20,000 Speaker 4: the endgame of that exactly right. They beat the Patriots 1915 01:35:20,080 --> 01:35:22,759 Speaker 4: twenty seven to twenty one last year in December thirty first, 1916 01:35:23,040 --> 01:35:25,080 Speaker 4: by six points. They handled the end of that game 1917 01:35:25,520 --> 01:35:30,280 Speaker 4: just right. Yes, sometimes there have been times when it 1918 01:35:30,400 --> 01:35:40,400 Speaker 4: is maddening because every person who even has you know, 1919 01:35:40,520 --> 01:35:44,080 Speaker 4: as any kind of mature fanship, they've been watching games 1920 01:35:44,080 --> 01:35:47,240 Speaker 4: for a while. Everybody was saying, well, they're gonna run 1921 01:35:47,240 --> 01:35:50,800 Speaker 4: the ball here yesterday when they get down there and 1922 01:35:50,840 --> 01:35:53,760 Speaker 4: they didn't, No three state And I get and I 1923 01:35:53,800 --> 01:35:56,479 Speaker 4: say this too, even if you're aggressive, you're gonna throw 1924 01:35:56,520 --> 01:35:57,880 Speaker 4: it that first down. See if you can get a 1925 01:35:57,960 --> 01:36:01,240 Speaker 4: drive starter because thirty two seconds you think, okay, well 1926 01:36:01,280 --> 01:36:03,000 Speaker 4: we get a drive starter, then we can get out. 1927 01:36:03,040 --> 01:36:05,800 Speaker 4: Maybe we get you know, Josh Britt snaps off a 1928 01:36:05,840 --> 01:36:08,160 Speaker 4: twenty yard run. We're now, don't we get a chance 1929 01:36:08,200 --> 01:36:09,519 Speaker 4: for a long field? Go if you get a drive 1930 01:36:09,560 --> 01:36:12,120 Speaker 4: starter on first down, the very first play. 1931 01:36:11,880 --> 01:36:14,240 Speaker 2: And as a drive starter, you mean, just so everybody 1932 01:36:14,320 --> 01:36:15,120 Speaker 2: on here, like like. 1933 01:36:15,120 --> 01:36:17,760 Speaker 4: A fifteen yard player a ten yard get out of 1934 01:36:17,840 --> 01:36:19,439 Speaker 4: get out of your shadow, of your own end zone. 1935 01:36:19,479 --> 01:36:23,080 Speaker 4: You know, get a positive play, get some mo that 1936 01:36:23,160 --> 01:36:25,680 Speaker 4: doesn't happen. I think, okay, now turn around, hand it off, 1937 01:36:25,760 --> 01:36:29,479 Speaker 4: let's go. Well they didn't, and in fact, Josh makes 1938 01:36:29,479 --> 01:36:31,599 Speaker 4: two of the most of the worst throes of the game. 1939 01:36:33,200 --> 01:36:34,280 Speaker 3: They're off the field. 1940 01:36:34,920 --> 01:36:38,720 Speaker 4: Even with a dynamite punt by Sam Martin, Houston gets 1941 01:36:38,760 --> 01:36:43,160 Speaker 4: the ball right back and it's you know, it's maddening 1942 01:36:43,160 --> 01:36:44,360 Speaker 4: to sit here today and think. 1943 01:36:44,280 --> 01:36:50,800 Speaker 3: Man, we did it to ourselves again. You know. That's why, 1944 01:36:51,080 --> 01:36:52,880 Speaker 3: that's why it's a hard Monday to wake up to. 1945 01:36:54,400 --> 01:36:57,400 Speaker 2: Break time for us here all of your phone calls 1946 01:36:57,439 --> 01:36:59,559 Speaker 2: coming up in hour number three. Here we are wide 1947 01:36:59,560 --> 01:37:03,360 Speaker 2: open your takes on yesterday. So if you're holding an 1948 01:37:03,360 --> 01:37:05,599 Speaker 2: eight oh three oh five point fifty. We will get 1949 01:37:05,600 --> 01:37:07,559 Speaker 2: to you in this next segment here on One Bill's Live. 1950 01:37:07,640 --> 01:37:08,200 Speaker 2: Stay with us. 1951 01:37:53,840 --> 01:37:58,519 Speaker 1: This One Bill's Live presented by Callida Health. 1952 01:37:58,880 --> 01:38:01,040 Speaker 2: All right, here we are hour number three on a 1953 01:38:01,080 --> 01:38:04,000 Speaker 2: Buffalo football Monday. Chris Brown, Steve Jasper with you taking 1954 01:38:04,000 --> 01:38:06,479 Speaker 2: your phone calls at Ago three zero five fifty one 1955 01:38:06,600 --> 01:38:09,240 Speaker 2: eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty and we 1956 01:38:09,360 --> 01:38:12,920 Speaker 2: go right to the phones and to Ryan in Toronto. Next. 1957 01:38:12,920 --> 01:38:17,360 Speaker 20: What's up Ryan, Chris, Steve Barnessy, Man, it's a horrible 1958 01:38:17,400 --> 01:38:20,839 Speaker 20: monday on my on my end, I called you guys 1959 01:38:21,040 --> 01:38:22,840 Speaker 20: after they brought to my game and talked to you 1960 01:38:22,880 --> 01:38:28,360 Speaker 20: guys about you know what, we beat three teams, Arizona 1961 01:38:29,360 --> 01:38:33,880 Speaker 20: Dolphins and the Jacksonville Under five UNDERD teams. To this 1962 01:38:33,960 --> 01:38:37,160 Speaker 20: day they are all three the under five hundred. Secondly, 1963 01:38:37,840 --> 01:38:41,080 Speaker 20: the scoring numbers, the numbers they put up was against 1964 01:38:41,160 --> 01:38:43,760 Speaker 20: three bad teams. And I know they were number two 1965 01:38:44,160 --> 01:38:46,720 Speaker 20: in offense and whatnot. Those number don't matter to me. 1966 01:38:47,080 --> 01:38:50,640 Speaker 20: I also have said, how real test is coming up Baltimore, 1967 01:38:50,960 --> 01:38:54,280 Speaker 20: Houston gets all on the road. He saw these when 1968 01:38:54,320 --> 01:38:57,719 Speaker 20: they are real deal or not? And the game coming 1969 01:38:57,800 --> 01:39:00,679 Speaker 20: up on Monday night, against the guests. If they lose 1970 01:39:00,720 --> 01:39:03,840 Speaker 20: that game, they're going to be second place in AFC East. 1971 01:39:05,040 --> 01:39:06,439 Speaker 20: That's a huge game coming up. 1972 01:39:06,840 --> 01:39:09,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, they get absolutely, they better. 1973 01:39:08,920 --> 01:39:09,720 Speaker 11: Get to create for this. 1974 01:39:10,280 --> 01:39:14,080 Speaker 21: And three games out of the five they came out 1975 01:39:14,560 --> 01:39:19,639 Speaker 21: flat against Arizona, against Baltimore and yesterday. 1976 01:39:20,600 --> 01:39:21,800 Speaker 11: Come on, they gotta fix this. 1977 01:39:22,240 --> 01:39:24,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, what do you think? What do you think, Ryan, 1978 01:39:24,280 --> 01:39:26,920 Speaker 3: what do you think about how to fix it? 1979 01:39:28,720 --> 01:39:30,720 Speaker 21: I don't unerstand if you touched on earlier on at 1980 01:39:30,720 --> 01:39:32,799 Speaker 21: the beginning of the show, you said they came out flat. 1981 01:39:34,760 --> 01:39:36,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, so he was curious if you had a thought 1982 01:39:36,680 --> 01:39:37,479 Speaker 2: on how to fix that. 1983 01:39:39,040 --> 01:39:40,080 Speaker 21: To be honest, I don't know. 1984 01:39:40,240 --> 01:39:41,120 Speaker 11: I'm not the head coach. 1985 01:39:41,439 --> 01:39:42,439 Speaker 8: Yeah, you know what I mean. 1986 01:39:42,760 --> 01:39:43,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, I get you. 1987 01:39:43,880 --> 01:39:48,599 Speaker 21: They came out plant against Arizona and then they you know, 1988 01:39:48,680 --> 01:39:53,800 Speaker 21: they beat Miami and Jacksonville was good, and all of 1989 01:39:53,840 --> 01:39:55,719 Speaker 21: a sudden, they forgot about how they came out flat 1990 01:39:55,760 --> 01:39:58,120 Speaker 21: on week one and I guess what, Baltimore, he said, 1991 01:39:58,120 --> 01:39:58,960 Speaker 21: take advantage of it. 1992 01:39:59,160 --> 01:39:59,760 Speaker 2: Yeah they did. 1993 01:40:00,439 --> 01:40:02,200 Speaker 4: You're right, and you're right as you look at who 1994 01:40:02,200 --> 01:40:04,439 Speaker 4: they've played and how they've played against those teams. The 1995 01:40:04,479 --> 01:40:08,120 Speaker 4: teams that they've beaten are not good, and the last 1996 01:40:08,120 --> 01:40:10,320 Speaker 4: two teams they played are and the Bills have not 1997 01:40:10,400 --> 01:40:10,960 Speaker 4: stacked up. 1998 01:40:11,800 --> 01:40:12,160 Speaker 3: Certainly. 1999 01:40:12,240 --> 01:40:14,800 Speaker 4: Yesterday was a very close game and it could have 2000 01:40:14,840 --> 01:40:17,320 Speaker 4: gone either way. And you can blame the head coach 2001 01:40:17,360 --> 01:40:19,240 Speaker 4: and the time, all the stuff that you can blame 2002 01:40:19,240 --> 01:40:23,559 Speaker 4: it on. I'll say this, they played I've never seen him. 2003 01:40:23,760 --> 01:40:26,640 Speaker 4: We've never seen him play worse offensively, never seen him 2004 01:40:26,640 --> 01:40:29,599 Speaker 4: play worse. They scored twenty points. Yeah, from a passing perspective, 2005 01:40:29,600 --> 01:40:31,960 Speaker 4: they've never seen him play worse. And they had a 2006 01:40:32,040 --> 01:40:33,960 Speaker 4: chance to win that game because they got some stellar 2007 01:40:34,000 --> 01:40:35,880 Speaker 4: play from their defense in the second half all of 2008 01:40:35,880 --> 01:40:40,200 Speaker 4: that stuff. But Josh was nine to thirty. That's as 2009 01:40:40,240 --> 01:40:43,680 Speaker 4: bad as we have ever seen him. So to have 2010 01:40:43,720 --> 01:40:46,040 Speaker 4: a chance to win that game is kind of perplexing. 2011 01:40:46,040 --> 01:40:46,920 Speaker 4: I don't know how it happened. 2012 01:40:46,960 --> 01:40:47,520 Speaker 2: Remarkable. 2013 01:40:48,040 --> 01:40:51,880 Speaker 4: So, yeah, against good teams, sure, they're piling on. They're 2014 01:40:51,920 --> 01:40:54,920 Speaker 4: piling on against bad teams or teams with poor records 2015 01:40:54,920 --> 01:40:57,559 Speaker 4: here in the early going. But they've played a couple 2016 01:40:57,560 --> 01:40:59,439 Speaker 4: of really good teams this last couple of weeks and. 2017 01:40:59,400 --> 01:41:01,599 Speaker 3: Have not looked good. Certainly Houston. 2018 01:41:02,280 --> 01:41:04,640 Speaker 4: Uh, they looked much better than they did against Baltimore 2019 01:41:04,840 --> 01:41:07,040 Speaker 4: and got back into a game and played good enough 2020 01:41:07,080 --> 01:41:10,320 Speaker 4: offensively and defensively to give them themselves a chance. But 2021 01:41:10,520 --> 01:41:13,680 Speaker 4: you're right, Ryan, against the upper echelon of the of 2022 01:41:13,720 --> 01:41:17,920 Speaker 4: the conference right now, they have not played well and I've, 2023 01:41:17,960 --> 01:41:19,639 Speaker 4: as I've said a couple of times in the show, 2024 01:41:20,240 --> 01:41:21,679 Speaker 4: it seems like they're getting out. 2025 01:41:21,520 --> 01:41:26,120 Speaker 3: Too slow stars. And I don't mean in Arizona. I 2026 01:41:26,160 --> 01:41:28,519 Speaker 3: think they looked flat. 2027 01:41:29,040 --> 01:41:33,599 Speaker 4: But against Baltimore and against UH yesterday against Houston, they 2028 01:41:33,640 --> 01:41:36,120 Speaker 4: just didn't work. Yeah, they didn't look they look they 2029 01:41:36,200 --> 01:41:38,400 Speaker 4: looked like they had some energy. It just nothing was there. 2030 01:41:38,720 --> 01:41:41,559 Speaker 2: Disjointed, not they looked out of sorts. 2031 01:41:41,640 --> 01:41:43,880 Speaker 4: Not there's energy, and they looked like their emotions were 2032 01:41:43,880 --> 01:41:47,280 Speaker 4: into it and they were playing with some some zest, 2033 01:41:47,600 --> 01:41:50,240 Speaker 4: but nothing was working. So that was a little different 2034 01:41:50,280 --> 01:41:51,240 Speaker 4: than the Arizona game. 2035 01:41:51,400 --> 01:41:55,519 Speaker 2: And not for nothing, this was the narrative last time 2036 01:41:55,560 --> 01:41:59,080 Speaker 2: this last year, at this time off the London game, 2037 01:41:59,120 --> 01:42:03,280 Speaker 2: Week five, slow start, and it led to the next 2038 01:42:03,280 --> 01:42:08,519 Speaker 2: three games, same problems, slow starts, playing from behind, trying 2039 01:42:08,520 --> 01:42:10,639 Speaker 2: to climb back into a game. This was a problem 2040 01:42:10,720 --> 01:42:16,160 Speaker 2: last year and it ultimately cost Ken Dorsey's job. You 2041 01:42:16,240 --> 01:42:20,439 Speaker 2: gotta hope it gets fixed and fixed quickly, because playing 2042 01:42:20,479 --> 01:42:23,559 Speaker 2: from behind I think is a little more difficult for 2043 01:42:23,600 --> 01:42:26,639 Speaker 2: this offense because they haven't put it all together yet. 2044 01:42:27,200 --> 01:42:29,840 Speaker 2: Playing from behind on the scoreboard is harder for this 2045 01:42:29,960 --> 01:42:33,479 Speaker 2: offense than the offensive crew of the previous couple of 2046 01:42:33,560 --> 01:42:39,920 Speaker 2: years for various reasons. One new parts, two younger parts, 2047 01:42:40,280 --> 01:42:45,080 Speaker 2: so less experience in deficit situations at this level, and 2048 01:42:46,320 --> 01:42:50,439 Speaker 2: separation ability reared its ugly head yesterday. I mean, the 2049 01:42:50,479 --> 01:42:53,800 Speaker 2: Texans are a team that plays man coverage thirty six 2050 01:42:53,840 --> 01:42:56,160 Speaker 2: percent of the time. It's seventh highest in the league. 2051 01:42:56,840 --> 01:42:59,840 Speaker 2: Bill's carved up man coverage in Week three against Jacksonville 2052 01:43:00,160 --> 01:43:03,400 Speaker 2: for whatever reason, could not do it yesterday in Houston. 2053 01:43:03,640 --> 01:43:06,280 Speaker 4: I think their best man beater as a wide receiver 2054 01:43:06,360 --> 01:43:09,680 Speaker 4: is Khalil wasn't on the field, That's that's one thing. 2055 01:43:09,720 --> 01:43:18,040 Speaker 4: So they were hamstrung. And yeah, I just like I said, 2056 01:43:18,040 --> 01:43:19,800 Speaker 4: like I've been saying, I think they need to get 2057 01:43:19,880 --> 01:43:23,599 Speaker 4: healthy first and foremost. Even even though offensively they only 2058 01:43:23,600 --> 01:43:27,360 Speaker 4: had one real guy at well, yeah, Khalil was the 2059 01:43:27,360 --> 01:43:29,479 Speaker 4: only guy out and defense had five guys out, and 2060 01:43:29,520 --> 01:43:32,120 Speaker 4: their defense actually played pretty good after they got their 2061 01:43:32,160 --> 01:43:37,679 Speaker 4: feet under them. But man, oh man, uh, there's still 2062 01:43:37,720 --> 01:43:39,400 Speaker 4: a lot to like about where they're going and what 2063 01:43:39,400 --> 01:43:40,760 Speaker 4: they can do, but they got to do it. 2064 01:43:40,800 --> 01:43:41,479 Speaker 3: I mean they can't. 2065 01:43:42,040 --> 01:43:43,200 Speaker 2: They can't. 2066 01:43:43,760 --> 01:43:45,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I don't know that. 2067 01:43:45,240 --> 01:43:48,920 Speaker 4: I'm totally willing to say they've settled into the mediocre 2068 01:43:48,960 --> 01:43:51,000 Speaker 4: range where they can't be good against a good team 2069 01:43:51,000 --> 01:43:53,160 Speaker 4: and they're always really good against a bad team like 2070 01:43:53,160 --> 01:43:53,639 Speaker 4: the Dolphins. 2071 01:43:53,640 --> 01:43:57,160 Speaker 2: Too early for that, early for that, and if they 2072 01:43:57,320 --> 01:43:59,160 Speaker 2: and and look if they're if they don't even win 2073 01:43:59,240 --> 01:44:01,000 Speaker 2: this game this week, they're three and three. I mean, 2074 01:44:01,040 --> 01:44:03,840 Speaker 2: for Ryan, it's disastrous because you fall out of first 2075 01:44:03,840 --> 01:44:06,880 Speaker 2: place in the AFC East. You've played six games, you 2076 01:44:06,960 --> 01:44:10,120 Speaker 2: got eleven games left, and not to mention the fact 2077 01:44:10,200 --> 01:44:12,920 Speaker 2: you have four division games left, so a lot can 2078 01:44:13,000 --> 01:44:15,799 Speaker 2: happen between week six and week eighteen. 2079 01:44:16,160 --> 01:44:18,080 Speaker 4: So one of the things you got to kind of 2080 01:44:18,080 --> 01:44:19,840 Speaker 4: pin your hat on here too. I think if you're 2081 01:44:19,920 --> 01:44:22,200 Speaker 4: a Bills fan and you're kind of holding out hope 2082 01:44:22,400 --> 01:44:25,960 Speaker 4: for this season, after they've lost two straight, you got 2083 01:44:26,000 --> 01:44:28,240 Speaker 4: to think, Okay, the young guys are gonna get much better. 2084 01:44:28,400 --> 01:44:30,479 Speaker 4: Their offense is going to start to focus in on 2085 01:44:30,520 --> 01:44:33,639 Speaker 4: some guys that and instead of trying to feed nine 2086 01:44:33,680 --> 01:44:36,840 Speaker 4: guys on offense, they're gonna try and feed three or 2087 01:44:36,880 --> 01:44:40,360 Speaker 4: four guys on offense and go with those guys, got 2088 01:44:40,360 --> 01:44:43,000 Speaker 4: a streamline, maybe that will help. But I think and 2089 01:44:43,080 --> 01:44:45,679 Speaker 4: also that with the development of the young guys going forward, 2090 01:44:45,800 --> 01:44:48,040 Speaker 4: they're gonna get better and better and better and everywhere 2091 01:44:48,040 --> 01:44:50,639 Speaker 4: wherever they are. Coleman's gonna get better, Bishop's gonna get better, 2092 01:44:50,640 --> 01:44:52,639 Speaker 4: and all the rest of them, Javon, Solomon's gonna get better, 2093 01:44:52,840 --> 01:44:53,800 Speaker 4: Carter's gonna get better. 2094 01:44:53,800 --> 01:44:54,800 Speaker 3: They're all gonna get better. 2095 01:44:55,120 --> 01:44:57,200 Speaker 4: So you kind of put a little hang your hat 2096 01:44:57,240 --> 01:45:00,000 Speaker 4: on that as well, along with the fact that maybe 2097 01:45:00,040 --> 01:45:01,280 Speaker 4: they'll get some good guys healthy. 2098 01:45:01,360 --> 01:45:03,320 Speaker 2: Let's go to Fred in Rochester next. What do you 2099 01:45:03,360 --> 01:45:04,080 Speaker 2: got Fred? 2100 01:45:05,160 --> 01:45:09,040 Speaker 22: Yeah, Hi, guys, thanks for taking the call. Sure, just 2101 01:45:09,080 --> 01:45:15,679 Speaker 22: a couple of things. Number one, I really get Joe. 2102 01:45:15,720 --> 01:45:18,120 Speaker 22: I get a laugh out of these guys that are 2103 01:45:18,640 --> 01:45:23,280 Speaker 22: are gonna throw Sean under the bus. Okay, you know 2104 01:45:24,240 --> 01:45:27,040 Speaker 22: it just it makes no sense, it doesn't I'm an 2105 01:45:27,040 --> 01:45:31,080 Speaker 22: old high school football coach, all right, coach for a 2106 01:45:31,080 --> 01:45:35,760 Speaker 22: lot of years, and I certainly wouldn't take the heat 2107 01:45:35,880 --> 01:45:38,280 Speaker 22: that he's taken. But I did take the heat from 2108 01:45:38,960 --> 01:45:44,559 Speaker 22: a small towns because obviously I made didn't make stellar 2109 01:45:44,680 --> 01:45:45,639 Speaker 22: calls all the time. 2110 01:45:45,680 --> 01:45:47,880 Speaker 6: All right, but. 2111 01:45:48,200 --> 01:45:50,760 Speaker 22: People running around with the hair on fire doesn't make 2112 01:45:50,760 --> 01:45:56,920 Speaker 22: any sense. All right, Enough out of that Number two, 2113 01:45:57,400 --> 01:46:00,639 Speaker 22: these guys aren't playing against sinn Air. You know, there's 2114 01:46:00,640 --> 01:46:02,880 Speaker 22: another football team out there that happens to be four 2115 01:46:02,920 --> 01:46:07,280 Speaker 22: and one, and they're pretty damn good, all right. So, yeah, 2116 01:46:07,320 --> 01:46:10,920 Speaker 22: did we make mistakes. Of course they made mistakes two, right, 2117 01:46:11,080 --> 01:46:14,719 Speaker 22: Like I said, they're a good football team, no question 2118 01:46:14,800 --> 01:46:19,559 Speaker 22: about it. Number three John McDermott. And if you check 2119 01:46:19,640 --> 01:46:22,479 Speaker 22: this out, I haven't done any real checking on it, 2120 01:46:22,520 --> 01:46:25,679 Speaker 22: but I've watched enough games to know that this coach 2121 01:46:26,640 --> 01:46:29,720 Speaker 22: is probably the best coach that I've ever seen at 2122 01:46:29,760 --> 01:46:33,719 Speaker 22: making halftime adjustments, all right. And he did it yesterday 2123 01:46:33,720 --> 01:46:37,040 Speaker 22: even though they lost. Yep, the difference between the first 2124 01:46:37,120 --> 01:46:40,559 Speaker 22: half and Brownie. You can attest to this because you 2125 01:46:40,600 --> 01:46:42,880 Speaker 22: did the game, the difference between the first half and 2126 01:46:42,920 --> 01:46:46,920 Speaker 22: the second half. They didn't win the game, but they 2127 01:46:47,120 --> 01:46:50,200 Speaker 22: switched everything around, okay, and he did it with five 2128 01:46:50,400 --> 01:46:53,360 Speaker 22: people not on his defense. He's a defensive coach, I 2129 01:46:53,439 --> 01:46:58,160 Speaker 22: understand that, but he makes very good halftime adjustments. 2130 01:46:58,280 --> 01:47:01,559 Speaker 2: Yeah. They outscored him to six in the second half, 2131 01:47:02,200 --> 01:47:04,920 Speaker 2: and C. J. Stroud's passer rating went from one forty 2132 01:47:05,240 --> 01:47:07,559 Speaker 2: eight in the first half to sixty eight in the 2133 01:47:07,560 --> 01:47:08,160 Speaker 2: second half. 2134 01:47:09,120 --> 01:47:12,439 Speaker 22: Exactly that. And this is that wasn't just one case. 2135 01:47:12,800 --> 01:47:16,640 Speaker 22: He's done this a lot this coach. This coach is 2136 01:47:16,640 --> 01:47:21,000 Speaker 22: a very very good halftime adjustment coach. And I think 2137 01:47:21,000 --> 01:47:24,920 Speaker 22: if people check into it, they'll see that that's right. 2138 01:47:25,520 --> 01:47:25,960 Speaker 11: Okay. 2139 01:47:26,600 --> 01:47:28,400 Speaker 22: Again, another thing, and I don't want to take too 2140 01:47:28,439 --> 01:47:30,280 Speaker 22: much more time because I know you got guys involved. 2141 01:47:30,840 --> 01:47:33,559 Speaker 22: Dawson Knox has got to be more involved, all right, 2142 01:47:33,600 --> 01:47:36,880 Speaker 22: There's no question about it. He was before these other 2143 01:47:36,920 --> 01:47:40,479 Speaker 22: guys came. He was a major component to this offense. 2144 01:47:40,960 --> 01:47:45,800 Speaker 22: He's got to be put back in all right. Number five, 2145 01:47:45,920 --> 01:47:49,840 Speaker 22: the offense has got to be much more proactive, and 2146 01:47:49,920 --> 01:47:54,880 Speaker 22: instead of being reactive, they've lost that like dictate to 2147 01:47:54,920 --> 01:47:59,920 Speaker 22: the opponent exactly exactly. Okay, that might have been hard, yes, 2148 01:48:00,280 --> 01:48:02,479 Speaker 22: but again they're not playing against finn Air again, right, 2149 01:48:03,560 --> 01:48:06,840 Speaker 22: but they have to do that. So I think what 2150 01:48:06,920 --> 01:48:08,920 Speaker 22: they've got to work on. The OCA has got to 2151 01:48:08,960 --> 01:48:12,720 Speaker 22: take a little more responsibility. He does shouldn't lose his job, 2152 01:48:12,720 --> 01:48:15,680 Speaker 22: but he needs to take more responsibility. The scheme has 2153 01:48:15,760 --> 01:48:19,479 Speaker 22: to be much more razor sharp, and the QB has 2154 01:48:19,520 --> 01:48:22,040 Speaker 22: got to be much more at Yeah, all right, all right, 2155 01:48:23,720 --> 01:48:24,719 Speaker 22: I'll let you guys talk. 2156 01:48:24,840 --> 01:48:28,360 Speaker 2: All right, Thanks Fred, appreciate the call there. Yeah, I 2157 01:48:28,360 --> 01:48:33,080 Speaker 2: mean I agree with a lot of that. You know. 2158 01:48:33,479 --> 01:48:35,479 Speaker 2: I was just referencing last year and some of the 2159 01:48:35,520 --> 01:48:39,360 Speaker 2: offensive problems that they had last year. Slow starts, everything 2160 01:48:39,400 --> 01:48:41,479 Speaker 2: looked like a heavy lift. Remember we talk about that 2161 01:48:41,560 --> 01:48:44,799 Speaker 2: all the time. It felt like that the last two weeks. 2162 01:48:45,160 --> 01:48:49,120 Speaker 2: Slow starts and everything looked like a heavy lift. Executing 2163 01:48:49,160 --> 01:48:52,439 Speaker 2: a stream looked like a monumental thing, like pushing a 2164 01:48:52,479 --> 01:48:54,960 Speaker 2: boulder up the hill, and it shouldn't look like that. 2165 01:48:56,120 --> 01:48:58,479 Speaker 2: When I was getting ready to do the broadcast for 2166 01:48:58,520 --> 01:49:01,920 Speaker 2: this game, I watch some of the Texans earlier games 2167 01:49:01,920 --> 01:49:04,680 Speaker 2: this season, one against the Minnesota Vikings. You want to 2168 01:49:04,680 --> 01:49:06,679 Speaker 2: talk about a team that's buttoned up, and you can 2169 01:49:06,840 --> 01:49:10,879 Speaker 2: visually see the difference. It's the Minnesota Vikings. On offense. 2170 01:49:11,400 --> 01:49:14,519 Speaker 2: They are sharp out of the huddle, sharp at the 2171 01:49:14,520 --> 01:49:17,800 Speaker 2: line of scrimmage, sharp with their blocking, sharp with their 2172 01:49:17,840 --> 01:49:20,400 Speaker 2: blicks pick up, sharp on their routes, sharp on their 2173 01:49:20,479 --> 01:49:24,720 Speaker 2: drop back and delivery of the football. They are a 2174 01:49:24,760 --> 01:49:27,960 Speaker 2: buttoned up operation and it's a big reason why they're 2175 01:49:28,000 --> 01:49:30,639 Speaker 2: five and oh you gotta sweat the details. And I'm 2176 01:49:30,640 --> 01:49:33,280 Speaker 2: talking to the players now on this. You gotta sweat 2177 01:49:33,320 --> 01:49:36,160 Speaker 2: all those details all the time. I don't know this 2178 01:49:36,360 --> 01:49:38,080 Speaker 2: and that I don't know this for a fact that 2179 01:49:38,120 --> 01:49:40,960 Speaker 2: it happened. But I think that three and oh start 2180 01:49:41,880 --> 01:49:43,759 Speaker 2: was a little bit of fool's gold for the players 2181 01:49:43,760 --> 01:49:46,120 Speaker 2: in that locker room, especially some of the younger players 2182 01:49:46,560 --> 01:49:48,360 Speaker 2: who haven't been through a lot of the ups and 2183 01:49:48,400 --> 01:49:51,440 Speaker 2: downs and trials and tribulations that this team has experienced 2184 01:49:51,439 --> 01:49:54,160 Speaker 2: over the last five or six years. And I wonder 2185 01:49:54,200 --> 01:49:58,200 Speaker 2: if it made them just ever so slightly complacent. And 2186 01:49:58,280 --> 01:50:02,120 Speaker 2: once it turns on you, it's hard to get it back. 2187 01:50:02,200 --> 01:50:04,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I'll say this too, they've made a concerted 2188 01:50:04,400 --> 01:50:08,280 Speaker 4: let's They've made a concerted effort to take some of 2189 01:50:08,320 --> 01:50:10,960 Speaker 4: the burden off of Josh Allen and his ability to 2190 01:50:11,000 --> 01:50:15,720 Speaker 4: just run. Called quarterback runs are rarity now because they 2191 01:50:15,840 --> 01:50:18,080 Speaker 4: run the ball so well with Cook and Ty Johnson 2192 01:50:18,760 --> 01:50:24,080 Speaker 4: and Ray Davis. It's they don't do that anymore. The 2193 01:50:24,240 --> 01:50:27,200 Speaker 4: offense has evolved and they we kind of all expected 2194 01:50:27,200 --> 01:50:33,919 Speaker 4: it to. But I do believe, like like Ray said, yeah, 2195 01:50:34,080 --> 01:50:35,479 Speaker 4: you can pick whatever guys you want. 2196 01:50:35,560 --> 01:50:35,800 Speaker 3: You want. 2197 01:50:35,880 --> 01:50:38,160 Speaker 4: Knocks to be more involved, get him back in. That's fine, 2198 01:50:38,160 --> 01:50:40,960 Speaker 4: that's fine what they need to do. And because everybody's 2199 01:50:40,960 --> 01:50:43,200 Speaker 4: saying they bringing another guy, Listen, we got like nine 2200 01:50:43,240 --> 01:50:45,240 Speaker 4: guys in the room and we had like and it 2201 01:50:45,280 --> 01:50:47,439 Speaker 4: was a big deal. Remember when when they beat Miami 2202 01:50:47,479 --> 01:50:52,000 Speaker 4: and when they beat Arizona, when they beat Jacksonville, Like 2203 01:50:52,080 --> 01:50:55,599 Speaker 4: everybody on the roster was catching passes. That may be 2204 01:50:56,320 --> 01:51:00,800 Speaker 4: not the way to sustain your offensive production. You might 2205 01:51:00,840 --> 01:51:02,760 Speaker 4: want to hone in on some guys and give and 2206 01:51:02,880 --> 01:51:04,439 Speaker 4: let them know that they're gonna be a big part 2207 01:51:04,479 --> 01:51:06,080 Speaker 4: of it so that they know they're gonna. 2208 01:51:05,840 --> 01:51:06,639 Speaker 3: Have to keep going. 2209 01:51:07,360 --> 01:51:11,640 Speaker 4: Right now, it strikes me that some of these, you know, 2210 01:51:11,720 --> 01:51:14,640 Speaker 4: like Keon Coleman, and then nobody's ever running offense like 2211 01:51:14,760 --> 01:51:17,280 Speaker 4: in this offense, Like Keon's brand new to this whole thing. 2212 01:51:17,960 --> 01:51:20,000 Speaker 4: He doesn't know when he's he saw the ball bump 2213 01:51:20,200 --> 01:51:21,200 Speaker 4: pop off his helmet. 2214 01:51:21,320 --> 01:51:22,320 Speaker 2: He he didn't get the check. 2215 01:51:24,400 --> 01:51:27,519 Speaker 4: It's hard to run like you're the main guy when 2216 01:51:27,640 --> 01:51:28,719 Speaker 4: nobody's the main guy. 2217 01:51:29,120 --> 01:51:31,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, and you don't know that you're gonna you're. 2218 01:51:31,120 --> 01:51:33,400 Speaker 2: A streamline and put the onus on them, so they're 2219 01:51:33,400 --> 01:51:35,720 Speaker 2: more investigating what's gonna happen. I don't know that. 2220 01:51:35,760 --> 01:51:38,800 Speaker 4: Anybody is expecting the ball. And I'm not using Keon 2221 01:51:38,840 --> 01:51:40,519 Speaker 4: Coleman that thing off the back of that's That's not 2222 01:51:40,520 --> 01:51:43,040 Speaker 4: what I'm talking about. I'm talking about in your mind, 2223 01:51:44,439 --> 01:51:46,840 Speaker 4: not being confident that you're even on the at the 2224 01:51:46,840 --> 01:51:50,000 Speaker 4: top of Josh's thought process. There's so many guys for 2225 01:51:50,080 --> 01:51:52,560 Speaker 4: Josh to look at. These guys are out there. You know, 2226 01:51:52,600 --> 01:51:55,000 Speaker 4: they're not running with a confidence that says I'm getting 2227 01:51:55,040 --> 01:51:56,800 Speaker 4: open because he's gonna throw me the ball if I do. 2228 01:51:57,680 --> 01:52:00,519 Speaker 2: Let's go to Chuck in Hamburg next. Let me pull 2229 01:52:00,600 --> 01:52:01,960 Speaker 2: him up here. What do you have for us, Juck? 2230 01:52:03,160 --> 01:52:05,920 Speaker 6: Well, I'd like to thank you for taking my call, 2231 01:52:06,000 --> 01:52:10,120 Speaker 6: but I know you guys enjoy talking to me. But anyway, Chris, 2232 01:52:10,920 --> 01:52:13,640 Speaker 6: you got to understand NFL and the Bills are in 2233 01:52:13,680 --> 01:52:16,760 Speaker 6: the entertainment business. And if you weren't entertained by that 2234 01:52:16,840 --> 01:52:20,280 Speaker 6: game yesterday, I don't know what kind of fan you were. 2235 01:52:20,640 --> 01:52:25,639 Speaker 6: That was an extremely exciting game. And it's like, you know, 2236 01:52:25,840 --> 01:52:28,920 Speaker 6: Steve going into rosies and they be it out of 2237 01:52:28,960 --> 01:52:33,880 Speaker 6: your favorite ice cream. You're still disappointed, but you're still 2238 01:52:33,880 --> 01:52:36,840 Speaker 6: glad you're there because of the great product. They put 2239 01:52:36,880 --> 01:52:40,000 Speaker 6: on just like the Bills, they put a great product 2240 01:52:40,000 --> 01:52:43,040 Speaker 6: down the field. If you can't enjoy the football game, 2241 01:52:43,160 --> 01:52:46,120 Speaker 6: I know it's disappointing to lose in the last couple seconds, 2242 01:52:46,680 --> 01:52:50,280 Speaker 6: but it was an entertaining game, and these guys loved 2243 01:52:50,360 --> 01:52:54,479 Speaker 6: playing for these coaches. Rick from ken Mark, and forget 2244 01:52:54,520 --> 01:52:57,720 Speaker 6: about getting rid of the coaches, he's nuts. 2245 01:52:58,360 --> 01:53:02,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I appreciate it. Well, yeah, I appreciate the call, Chuck. 2246 01:53:01,840 --> 01:53:03,519 Speaker 4: And I did say that. Yet I said that to 2247 01:53:03,560 --> 01:53:06,120 Speaker 4: the to the one of the five presidents yesterday. I said, 2248 01:53:06,120 --> 01:53:10,080 Speaker 4: you know, I was, we were bumming. I was like, man, though, 2249 01:53:10,400 --> 01:53:12,519 Speaker 4: what a great what a game, you know, And to 2250 01:53:12,600 --> 01:53:16,400 Speaker 4: have it come down to that clock management and that 2251 01:53:16,600 --> 01:53:18,960 Speaker 4: stuff going on with it, it's like, oh my god. 2252 01:53:19,040 --> 01:53:23,720 Speaker 4: You know, certainly you would rather have it flipped the 2253 01:53:23,720 --> 01:53:26,040 Speaker 4: other way for Bills fans. But think think of what. 2254 01:53:25,960 --> 01:53:29,800 Speaker 3: The Texans fans feel like today. Goodness gracious, beating that. 2255 01:53:29,720 --> 01:53:33,200 Speaker 4: Team in their yard in a game like that where 2256 01:53:33,200 --> 01:53:35,400 Speaker 4: it looked like they were gonna we're not gonna win it. 2257 01:53:35,680 --> 01:53:37,480 Speaker 3: Uh. 2258 01:53:37,560 --> 01:53:39,920 Speaker 4: Yes, it's very That's why the game, that's why the 2259 01:53:40,040 --> 01:53:43,840 Speaker 4: NFL is the eight hundred pound gorilla. But when you 2260 01:53:43,880 --> 01:53:46,440 Speaker 4: start being a fan of a team, you start expecting 2261 01:53:46,439 --> 01:53:48,599 Speaker 4: things from them, and when you don't get it, you're 2262 01:53:48,640 --> 01:53:50,439 Speaker 4: bummed and you want to know why, and you want 2263 01:53:50,479 --> 01:53:52,040 Speaker 4: to see why. You want to see him fixed stuff, 2264 01:53:52,040 --> 01:53:56,320 Speaker 4: and you want to blame somebody, and you know that's 2265 01:53:56,640 --> 01:53:59,439 Speaker 4: that's part of it. So this is this is all natural, 2266 01:53:59,520 --> 01:54:01,280 Speaker 4: and we're gonna this isn't the last time. We're gonna 2267 01:54:01,320 --> 01:54:04,240 Speaker 4: have a bad Monday this season. Let's just hope that 2268 01:54:04,360 --> 01:54:06,720 Speaker 4: we can get back in the win column before too long, 2269 01:54:06,760 --> 01:54:10,639 Speaker 4: particularly this week. This game, I don't know, I will 2270 01:54:10,640 --> 01:54:13,360 Speaker 4: turn the page probably tomorrow or the next day start 2271 01:54:13,360 --> 01:54:14,000 Speaker 4: talking about. 2272 01:54:13,840 --> 01:54:14,800 Speaker 3: The Jets exclusively. 2273 01:54:14,840 --> 01:54:18,240 Speaker 4: But yeah, I've got I've got a little baggage to 2274 01:54:18,240 --> 01:54:20,840 Speaker 4: bring to this game myself, and I'm sure most Bills 2275 01:54:20,880 --> 01:54:21,240 Speaker 4: fans do. 2276 01:54:22,240 --> 01:54:27,280 Speaker 2: Let's go to Adam and Williamsville next. What's up Adam? 2277 01:54:27,439 --> 01:54:27,559 Speaker 11: Hey? 2278 01:54:27,600 --> 01:54:28,639 Speaker 23: Yeah, you guys doing today? 2279 01:54:28,760 --> 01:54:29,000 Speaker 2: Good? 2280 01:54:31,439 --> 01:54:31,679 Speaker 11: Good? 2281 01:54:31,680 --> 01:54:32,000 Speaker 22: All right? 2282 01:54:32,160 --> 01:54:33,880 Speaker 23: I just want to bring this up, but I think 2283 01:54:33,880 --> 01:54:35,840 Speaker 23: we should be talking about some injuries here. And I 2284 01:54:35,840 --> 01:54:38,480 Speaker 23: don't know, I mean, I know that we're plagued with 2285 01:54:38,520 --> 01:54:42,800 Speaker 23: injuries throughout the team here, but Josh still having his 2286 01:54:42,880 --> 01:54:45,480 Speaker 23: hand wrapped obviously, that's a little bit more serious. Than 2287 01:54:45,760 --> 01:54:48,280 Speaker 23: he led us on to believe here and and if 2288 01:54:49,360 --> 01:54:51,800 Speaker 23: maybe it was just me, but last night him hitting 2289 01:54:51,840 --> 01:54:53,800 Speaker 23: the field like that with his hat, look like you 2290 01:54:53,840 --> 01:54:54,720 Speaker 23: got a little concussion. 2291 01:54:54,760 --> 01:54:55,120 Speaker 5: Maybe not. 2292 01:54:55,240 --> 01:54:59,280 Speaker 23: Maybe they're not gonna, you know, address it. Maybe we'll 2293 01:54:59,280 --> 01:55:00,880 Speaker 23: come back to Hannison at some point and they do 2294 01:55:00,880 --> 01:55:03,920 Speaker 23: an investigation. I don't know, but I mean he comes 2295 01:55:03,920 --> 01:55:06,560 Speaker 23: out of the tent and Trubisky Tarbisky, he's he's in 2296 01:55:06,600 --> 01:55:09,240 Speaker 23: the red zone ready to go on the second down there? 2297 01:55:09,440 --> 01:55:11,240 Speaker 23: Why did he just let it play out? So I 2298 01:55:11,400 --> 01:55:12,960 Speaker 23: just wanted to hear your opinion on that. I also 2299 01:55:12,960 --> 01:55:15,240 Speaker 23: wanted to hear your thoughts on how many times are 2300 01:55:15,240 --> 01:55:17,240 Speaker 23: we gonn listen to McDermott, you know, at the podium 2301 01:55:17,280 --> 01:55:18,480 Speaker 23: and I say, you know, this is this is this 2302 01:55:18,680 --> 01:55:20,080 Speaker 23: was on me and we got to do better and 2303 01:55:20,120 --> 01:55:22,360 Speaker 23: be better. I mean, we're gonna we're gonna be talking 2304 01:55:22,360 --> 01:55:24,240 Speaker 23: about this halfway through the season. Why an't we gonna 2305 01:55:24,280 --> 01:55:26,560 Speaker 23: turn and look to maybe a Bill Belichick or just 2306 01:55:26,680 --> 01:55:28,920 Speaker 23: I'm just throwing that out there, right, But how long 2307 01:55:28,960 --> 01:55:32,880 Speaker 23: do we do we let these situations go? So I'll 2308 01:55:32,920 --> 01:55:34,560 Speaker 23: hang up here and hear your thoughts on that. 2309 01:55:34,800 --> 01:55:36,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I'll say this too. A lot and a 2310 01:55:36,320 --> 01:55:40,600 Speaker 4: lot of people throw this right at Sean McDermott. I 2311 01:55:40,600 --> 01:55:44,120 Speaker 4: don't necessarily do that. Certainly he's responsible for it. But 2312 01:55:46,200 --> 01:55:49,960 Speaker 4: when you're a head coach, particularly a defensive head coach, 2313 01:55:52,080 --> 01:55:55,480 Speaker 4: I mean he could. I'm probably sure maybe he did, 2314 01:55:56,280 --> 01:56:01,640 Speaker 4: but get on the headset and say it here, don't 2315 01:56:01,720 --> 01:56:05,360 Speaker 4: don't throw it, do this, don't do that. Give the 2316 01:56:05,400 --> 01:56:09,000 Speaker 4: offensive coordinator some instruction on what you want out of that, 2317 01:56:10,120 --> 01:56:12,600 Speaker 4: out of that series. And I'm sure he probably he 2318 01:56:12,680 --> 01:56:15,920 Speaker 4: was on the headset. I'm sure he said something. He 2319 01:56:16,040 --> 01:56:17,560 Speaker 4: might have said, you can do what you want on 2320 01:56:17,560 --> 01:56:19,280 Speaker 4: first down. See if you can get a drive starter, 2321 01:56:19,360 --> 01:56:21,520 Speaker 4: that's fine. And then I don't know what the conversation 2322 01:56:21,680 --> 01:56:26,280 Speaker 4: was like. But nevertheless, if you're going to be a 2323 01:56:26,320 --> 01:56:28,600 Speaker 4: head coach and you want your coordinators to be their best, 2324 01:56:28,640 --> 01:56:31,400 Speaker 4: you got to give him some freedom, and you know 2325 01:56:31,680 --> 01:56:35,440 Speaker 4: that you're responsible for their mistakes, for their good stuff, 2326 01:56:35,440 --> 01:56:38,320 Speaker 4: for their bad stuff. Don't forget Joe Brady called three 2327 01:56:38,520 --> 01:56:43,520 Speaker 4: straight pass plays. I have a hard time thinking if 2328 01:56:43,520 --> 01:56:47,480 Speaker 4: Sean McDermott's on the headset calling the offensive plays that 2329 01:56:47,600 --> 01:56:50,960 Speaker 4: he's calling three straight pass plays. 2330 01:56:51,520 --> 01:56:53,280 Speaker 3: Now he could say, don't do that. 2331 01:56:54,720 --> 01:56:57,920 Speaker 4: But I think even even somebody who's you know, not 2332 01:56:58,160 --> 01:57:00,560 Speaker 4: well versed in group dynamics can understand what that would 2333 01:57:00,600 --> 01:57:03,520 Speaker 4: do to his coaching and how that makes that relationship 2334 01:57:03,840 --> 01:57:06,560 Speaker 4: telling him what to do when it you know, now, 2335 01:57:06,600 --> 01:57:08,520 Speaker 4: maybe he should have. Obviously he should have, because we 2336 01:57:08,520 --> 01:57:10,960 Speaker 4: should have done something different than they did. But that 2337 01:57:11,120 --> 01:57:13,080 Speaker 4: you're looking and you get you get a peek into 2338 01:57:13,120 --> 01:57:16,160 Speaker 4: the dynamics of what a pro football team is like. 2339 01:57:17,440 --> 01:57:22,880 Speaker 4: You got head coaches that that hammer their coordinators and 2340 01:57:23,600 --> 01:57:25,040 Speaker 4: tell them what to do, when to do it, and 2341 01:57:25,040 --> 01:57:27,240 Speaker 4: how to do it. And you've got other guys who. 2342 01:57:27,240 --> 01:57:31,760 Speaker 2: Lead, you know so, or try to empower them or. 2343 01:57:31,680 --> 01:57:32,960 Speaker 3: Empower their coordinators. 2344 01:57:32,960 --> 01:57:36,440 Speaker 4: But I'll say this, Sean mcdermom, whether you like what 2345 01:57:36,600 --> 01:57:40,160 Speaker 4: happened or not, Sean mcdermot's the guy standing up there 2346 01:57:40,200 --> 01:57:41,640 Speaker 4: at the end of the day saying this is on me, 2347 01:57:42,600 --> 01:57:45,480 Speaker 4: not his coordinator, not the guy he didn't call the place. 2348 01:57:46,080 --> 01:57:47,720 Speaker 2: And I'm just gonna tell you, do you want to 2349 01:57:47,720 --> 01:57:49,760 Speaker 2: know what that does as far as group dynamics goes. 2350 01:57:50,880 --> 01:57:54,680 Speaker 2: You got an offensive coordinator who feels awful as to 2351 01:57:54,680 --> 01:57:55,480 Speaker 2: how the game. 2352 01:57:55,520 --> 01:57:59,960 Speaker 4: The same offensive coordinator who called the trick play against Baltimore. 2353 01:57:59,520 --> 01:58:02,120 Speaker 2: Right, and his head coach is going up there and 2354 01:58:02,160 --> 01:58:06,080 Speaker 2: taking all the heat for his play calls. You don't 2355 01:58:06,080 --> 01:58:08,160 Speaker 2: think that guy's doubling down this week, You don't think 2356 01:58:09,280 --> 01:58:11,600 Speaker 2: think Yeah, you don't think Joe Brady next week. Yeah, 2357 01:58:11,600 --> 01:58:13,760 Speaker 2: you don't think Joe Brady's got skin in this game now. 2358 01:58:14,280 --> 01:58:16,360 Speaker 2: So I'm you can say what you want about And 2359 01:58:16,400 --> 01:58:19,720 Speaker 2: Sean McDermott is responsible, no question. But you know he 2360 01:58:19,720 --> 01:58:22,120 Speaker 2: doesn't call the offensive plays, but he's taking a hit 2361 01:58:22,200 --> 01:58:25,480 Speaker 2: for it, and you know, so that's you can get. 2362 01:58:25,560 --> 01:58:27,800 Speaker 2: It gives you a peek into how difficult it is 2363 01:58:27,880 --> 01:58:29,680 Speaker 2: in that moment when you're trying to win a game 2364 01:58:29,720 --> 01:58:32,760 Speaker 2: that all this stuff's going on, and McDermott has the 2365 01:58:32,840 --> 01:58:34,200 Speaker 2: strength of character or whatever. 2366 01:58:34,200 --> 01:58:36,440 Speaker 4: Maybe you can call it idiots. You can call him 2367 01:58:36,440 --> 01:58:40,920 Speaker 4: a lunatic an idiot for trusting one of his coordinators 2368 01:58:41,360 --> 01:58:42,080 Speaker 4: that he hired. 2369 01:58:43,360 --> 01:58:44,320 Speaker 3: Do anything you want. 2370 01:58:44,400 --> 01:58:46,520 Speaker 4: But that's a guy that's standing there empowering the guy 2371 01:58:46,520 --> 01:58:48,400 Speaker 4: to saying, listen, I know you had a rough week 2372 01:58:48,480 --> 01:58:51,200 Speaker 4: last week when you called a reversed flea flick or 2373 01:58:51,280 --> 01:58:53,680 Speaker 4: pass in our backfield that blew up in our face. 2374 01:58:54,480 --> 01:58:56,440 Speaker 4: But I got faith in you here you go do 2375 01:58:56,520 --> 01:58:59,040 Speaker 4: what you want, make this call, get us out of 2376 01:58:59,040 --> 01:59:02,160 Speaker 4: this jam, and it blew up in his face again 2377 01:59:03,400 --> 01:59:05,360 Speaker 4: and he's up there and then after the game he's 2378 01:59:05,440 --> 01:59:07,400 Speaker 4: up there at the podium saying, listen, this is on me. 2379 01:59:07,800 --> 01:59:10,120 Speaker 4: That's my fault. I should have done we should have 2380 01:59:10,160 --> 01:59:12,320 Speaker 4: run the ball, that all that stuff. You know that 2381 01:59:13,320 --> 01:59:16,080 Speaker 4: if you can take a deep breath as a Bills 2382 01:59:16,120 --> 01:59:18,920 Speaker 4: fan for a minute, and you know from a head 2383 01:59:18,920 --> 01:59:22,320 Speaker 4: coach who is you know, get getting punched is a 2384 01:59:22,360 --> 01:59:25,400 Speaker 4: punching bag today, take a step back and think about 2385 01:59:25,400 --> 01:59:27,920 Speaker 4: the group dyman Namis and the man and the staff 2386 01:59:27,960 --> 01:59:30,920 Speaker 4: and the two hundred and fifty people that are looking 2387 01:59:30,920 --> 01:59:33,120 Speaker 4: to him for leadership, and what it says about it, 2388 01:59:33,160 --> 01:59:36,160 Speaker 4: what he's willing to do for those people, and how 2389 01:59:36,200 --> 01:59:38,160 Speaker 4: hard they're going to work for him in that in 2390 01:59:38,200 --> 01:59:41,000 Speaker 4: the light of what he just did for them. So 2391 01:59:42,240 --> 01:59:44,120 Speaker 4: you can say he should have done this and this 2392 01:59:44,160 --> 01:59:48,400 Speaker 4: and this, but by doing so, he takes control from 2393 01:59:48,440 --> 01:59:50,760 Speaker 4: people who he's trusted with it up to that point. 2394 01:59:51,600 --> 01:59:53,520 Speaker 4: And he even did it from a guy who took 2395 01:59:53,560 --> 01:59:58,800 Speaker 4: a who was a punching bag last week. So you 2396 01:59:58,840 --> 02:00:03,200 Speaker 4: can understand now the twenty thousand layers there are to 2397 02:00:03,320 --> 02:00:06,000 Speaker 4: get in a football team to win a game in 2398 02:00:06,040 --> 02:00:09,200 Speaker 4: the last couple of minutes when it's tight, and all 2399 02:00:09,240 --> 02:00:13,840 Speaker 4: the nuance that goes into that. It's that's why this 2400 02:00:13,960 --> 02:00:17,480 Speaker 4: game is the best game there is all that's going on, 2401 02:00:17,560 --> 02:00:20,320 Speaker 4: and we get to watch it and we're and we 2402 02:00:20,440 --> 02:00:23,000 Speaker 4: got all of us Bill san has skin in that game, 2403 02:00:23,120 --> 02:00:25,600 Speaker 4: and it blew up in all of our faces yesterday 2404 02:00:26,080 --> 02:00:28,680 Speaker 4: and it's done that and we've done it before. But 2405 02:00:29,680 --> 02:00:32,080 Speaker 4: all of the stuff that gives Sean McDermott either And 2406 02:00:32,120 --> 02:00:33,800 Speaker 4: I know there's snark out there and you're saying that 2407 02:00:33,920 --> 02:00:37,640 Speaker 4: he's a he's a dummy for doing it that way, 2408 02:00:38,560 --> 02:00:41,360 Speaker 4: but think about the people who work with him and 2409 02:00:41,400 --> 02:00:43,360 Speaker 4: for him and what they think about him up there 2410 02:00:43,480 --> 02:00:46,960 Speaker 4: after the game saying that's my fault. And you'll see 2411 02:00:46,960 --> 02:00:49,720 Speaker 4: how the motivating, how motivated they will be going forward 2412 02:00:49,800 --> 02:00:51,960 Speaker 4: because he's doing that and because he had the faith 2413 02:00:52,000 --> 02:00:53,160 Speaker 4: in them to do it in the first place. 2414 02:00:53,320 --> 02:00:55,360 Speaker 2: Got to take a break here, more of your phone calls. 2415 02:00:55,360 --> 02:00:57,520 Speaker 2: When we come back, we'll get to Bobby who to 2416 02:00:57,600 --> 02:01:00,000 Speaker 2: lead us off when we return here on one Bill's Lives, 2417 02:01:00,000 --> 02:01:18,640 Speaker 2: say with us back here on one Bills Live. Chris 2418 02:01:18,640 --> 02:01:20,680 Speaker 2: Brown Steve Tasker with you're gonna jump right back on 2419 02:01:20,720 --> 02:01:22,560 Speaker 2: the phone lines where we've got people waiting at eighty 2420 02:01:22,600 --> 02:01:25,160 Speaker 2: or three oh five fifty, And as promised, we lead 2421 02:01:25,200 --> 02:01:27,280 Speaker 2: off with Bobby in Buffalo. What's up? Bobby? 2422 02:01:28,000 --> 02:01:31,960 Speaker 11: Hey, guys, how y'all doing today? Good? Good, good, good good. 2423 02:01:32,280 --> 02:01:36,400 Speaker 11: Listen the couple of things, well, a few things I 2424 02:01:36,400 --> 02:01:39,120 Speaker 11: got to say is, first of all, number one, you know, 2425 02:01:39,800 --> 02:01:43,600 Speaker 11: I do I do appreciate. I do appreciate how the 2426 02:01:43,640 --> 02:01:47,800 Speaker 11: Bills came back on Houston yesterday. You know, I do 2427 02:01:47,880 --> 02:01:52,480 Speaker 11: appreciate the comeback and that that's number one. But uh 2428 02:01:53,120 --> 02:01:56,880 Speaker 11: but I think the the main thing is this. You know, 2429 02:01:57,400 --> 02:02:02,560 Speaker 11: I'll preach these two words about this team all the time. 2430 02:02:03,240 --> 02:02:08,480 Speaker 11: Number one consistency and number two a sense of urgency. 2431 02:02:09,240 --> 02:02:11,800 Speaker 11: And that's what the Bills need. They need to be 2432 02:02:11,960 --> 02:02:16,760 Speaker 11: more consistent, and they need more of a sense of urgency. Okay, 2433 02:02:17,080 --> 02:02:21,800 Speaker 11: And first and well, guys, answer me this question. How 2434 02:02:21,840 --> 02:02:25,760 Speaker 11: would you think how would you think the Buffalo Bills 2435 02:02:25,840 --> 02:02:30,280 Speaker 11: offense would operate if if Josh Allen called his own 2436 02:02:30,320 --> 02:02:35,960 Speaker 11: plays Dave you guys a head scratcher, think about that. 2437 02:02:36,080 --> 02:02:38,000 Speaker 4: I don't have any idea what's your what's your take 2438 02:02:38,080 --> 02:02:39,240 Speaker 4: on that? How would you answer it? 2439 02:02:40,800 --> 02:02:46,280 Speaker 11: Well, well, well, this just like uh, just like back 2440 02:02:46,320 --> 02:02:48,880 Speaker 11: in the day and uh and uh, Steve Casker, you 2441 02:02:48,880 --> 02:02:51,440 Speaker 11: will agree with me on this, just like back in 2442 02:02:51,480 --> 02:02:54,560 Speaker 11: the day when Mark Leedy was coaching, and uh, Jim 2443 02:02:54,640 --> 02:02:57,080 Speaker 11: Kelly called his own plays. And I believe that uh 2444 02:02:57,640 --> 02:03:00,440 Speaker 11: uh it was called the k gun offense if I'm 2445 02:03:00,480 --> 02:03:03,040 Speaker 11: not if if if I'm correct or not, it was 2446 02:03:03,120 --> 02:03:06,800 Speaker 11: called the k gun offense. And listen, Jim, Jim Kelly 2447 02:03:06,920 --> 02:03:11,920 Speaker 11: was responsible for everything that went on that field. Now, 2448 02:03:12,000 --> 02:03:13,480 Speaker 11: am I corrector incorrect? 2449 02:03:14,600 --> 02:03:16,720 Speaker 3: Yes? Yes, Jim called his own plays. 2450 02:03:16,800 --> 02:03:20,800 Speaker 11: Yeah right, he was responsible for everything that went on 2451 02:03:20,880 --> 02:03:24,760 Speaker 11: that field. Now tell me how would how would listen, 2452 02:03:25,160 --> 02:03:28,360 Speaker 11: how would Josh Allen feel if he was placed in 2453 02:03:28,480 --> 02:03:32,400 Speaker 11: that position of calling his own plays? 2454 02:03:32,400 --> 02:03:34,920 Speaker 4: Well, I don't know, he'd probably feel a lot more responsibility, 2455 02:03:34,920 --> 02:03:35,480 Speaker 4: don't you think? 2456 02:03:36,440 --> 02:03:40,800 Speaker 11: Oh? Oh yes, absolutely absolutely. But the thing about it 2457 02:03:40,840 --> 02:03:43,960 Speaker 11: is this, listen, now they got now they got the mentality. 2458 02:03:44,280 --> 02:03:48,240 Speaker 11: Now they have that. Now they have that. Everybody eats mentality. Yeah, 2459 02:03:48,280 --> 02:03:50,920 Speaker 11: that's good and all that, that's good and all. But 2460 02:03:50,960 --> 02:03:55,360 Speaker 11: guess what, though, Guess what, as long as everybody eats. 2461 02:03:55,640 --> 02:03:57,920 Speaker 11: Everybody need to be more consistent. 2462 02:03:58,720 --> 02:04:02,520 Speaker 2: All right, listen, and I would tend to agree with you, Bobby, 2463 02:04:02,520 --> 02:04:05,200 Speaker 2: because what we've been saying today is you got a 2464 02:04:05,240 --> 02:04:08,400 Speaker 2: streamline who you're throwing to in the passing game. And 2465 02:04:08,520 --> 02:04:11,600 Speaker 2: to me, that means more snaps for James Cook, Dalton 2466 02:04:11,640 --> 02:04:15,320 Speaker 2: comes Maid khalilshak here, and maybe Saws and Knox and 2467 02:04:15,360 --> 02:04:18,360 Speaker 2: Keon Coleman and everybody else can take the table scraps 2468 02:04:18,360 --> 02:04:20,160 Speaker 2: after that. Based on what we've seen through the first 2469 02:04:20,200 --> 02:04:21,240 Speaker 2: five games, that's true. 2470 02:04:21,520 --> 02:04:24,240 Speaker 11: That's true. And one more thing, and one more thing, guys, 2471 02:04:24,280 --> 02:04:27,160 Speaker 11: and one more thing. I want to intererrate guys about 2472 02:04:27,200 --> 02:04:32,839 Speaker 11: about about about about the coach. Listen, Uh, Buffalo Bill's fans. 2473 02:04:32,880 --> 02:04:35,880 Speaker 11: I want to say you, guys, this every Buffalo Bill's 2474 02:04:35,920 --> 02:04:38,560 Speaker 11: fan across the city of Buffalo. I want to sell 2475 02:04:38,600 --> 02:04:42,480 Speaker 11: you this. Sean McDermott. Sawan McDermott is a great coach. 2476 02:04:43,200 --> 02:04:47,800 Speaker 11: Don't get me wrong. Listen, great great coaches. Listen. Great 2477 02:04:47,840 --> 02:04:53,040 Speaker 11: coaches make mistakes. Great coaches make mistakes. And if you listen, 2478 02:04:53,280 --> 02:04:56,640 Speaker 11: you want to know why to go down to Kansas 2479 02:04:56,720 --> 02:04:59,280 Speaker 11: City and ask Andy Reid how many mistakes he made 2480 02:04:59,400 --> 02:05:00,760 Speaker 11: before he will the Super Bowl. 2481 02:05:01,120 --> 02:05:03,680 Speaker 2: Yeah all right, Bobby, thanks very much. We got to 2482 02:05:03,680 --> 02:05:06,480 Speaker 2: move along. You got other people on hold here, so 2483 02:05:06,560 --> 02:05:08,800 Speaker 2: we're gonna let me see who's been waiting the longest. 2484 02:05:08,800 --> 02:05:14,280 Speaker 2: We go to Kyle in Depew. What's up, Kyle, Kyle, 2485 02:05:14,320 --> 02:05:14,800 Speaker 2: are you there? 2486 02:05:16,080 --> 02:05:18,400 Speaker 8: This is Carl. This is Carl. 2487 02:05:18,880 --> 02:05:22,520 Speaker 2: You're up, Carl? Okay, sorry about that, just using what's. 2488 02:05:22,360 --> 02:05:26,640 Speaker 8: The let then it sounds like we got way too 2489 02:05:26,640 --> 02:05:31,760 Speaker 8: many Monday morning quarterbacks there. Okay, and they want to 2490 02:05:31,800 --> 02:05:35,880 Speaker 8: talk about McDermott. Let me tell you something. He's on 2491 02:05:36,000 --> 02:05:39,240 Speaker 8: the open market. He'd last about fifteen seconds. He isn't 2492 02:05:39,280 --> 02:05:43,360 Speaker 8: going nowhere. And we got people don't realize that coordinators 2493 02:05:43,360 --> 02:05:47,680 Speaker 8: are relatively new. Okay, there's gonna be a lot of mistakes, 2494 02:05:47,960 --> 02:05:50,960 Speaker 8: but that just on them. Don't blame them. The offensive 2495 02:05:50,960 --> 02:05:53,960 Speaker 8: line has not showed up for the last two weeks. 2496 02:05:55,000 --> 02:06:00,120 Speaker 8: They played horrendous. Our receivers aren't aren't getting separate, and 2497 02:06:00,280 --> 02:06:05,120 Speaker 8: that's not helping us any So, uh, I mean, there's 2498 02:06:05,240 --> 02:06:09,280 Speaker 8: enough blame to go around. But this team will win 2499 02:06:09,360 --> 02:06:12,320 Speaker 8: in New York and they will win the East and 2500 02:06:12,400 --> 02:06:15,839 Speaker 8: people just got to take a chill and just relax 2501 02:06:15,920 --> 02:06:20,320 Speaker 8: a little bit. They're gonna they'll straighten it out. That's uh. 2502 02:06:21,040 --> 02:06:23,480 Speaker 8: I have no doubt about that. And McDermott will get 2503 02:06:23,520 --> 02:06:26,760 Speaker 8: it straightened out. And you know they I know they 2504 02:06:26,800 --> 02:06:32,280 Speaker 8: want his head because of yesterday, but he don't get 2505 02:06:32,640 --> 02:06:36,440 Speaker 8: the blame. One or two plays don't make the whole game, Okay. 2506 02:06:36,680 --> 02:06:39,400 Speaker 8: And the only other thing that the only other thing 2507 02:06:39,440 --> 02:06:42,360 Speaker 8: that I see that I think we can really improve 2508 02:06:42,440 --> 02:06:45,400 Speaker 8: on is we just don't seem to make the adjustments 2509 02:06:45,480 --> 02:06:49,960 Speaker 8: quick enough. Right, We got an offense and defense, we 2510 02:06:50,240 --> 02:06:51,640 Speaker 8: just don't adjust quick enough. 2511 02:06:51,840 --> 02:06:54,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, and that might be that might go right to 2512 02:06:54,280 --> 02:06:57,160 Speaker 2: your point, Carl about the young coordinators who are kind 2513 02:06:57,160 --> 02:06:58,320 Speaker 2: of learning on the fly here. 2514 02:06:59,400 --> 02:07:00,400 Speaker 8: That's what I think. 2515 02:07:00,840 --> 02:07:03,480 Speaker 4: All right, Thanks Carl, appreciate it. Yeah, And there's a yeah, 2516 02:07:03,600 --> 02:07:06,959 Speaker 4: you're kind of echoing a little bit of our sentiments 2517 02:07:07,000 --> 02:07:09,240 Speaker 4: here today as we kind of plow through the our 2518 02:07:09,520 --> 02:07:14,360 Speaker 4: our plow through our feelings about yesterday and what was 2519 02:07:14,400 --> 02:07:15,440 Speaker 4: said before and after. 2520 02:07:15,760 --> 02:07:20,640 Speaker 3: Uh. Yeah, they got to play better upfront offensively, no question. Uh. 2521 02:07:20,680 --> 02:07:24,520 Speaker 4: And both coordinators while they do seem to get it 2522 02:07:24,520 --> 02:07:27,760 Speaker 4: together in a big way, like in the comeback against well, 2523 02:07:27,760 --> 02:07:29,920 Speaker 4: they had a chance there in Baltimore before you know, 2524 02:07:30,000 --> 02:07:32,880 Speaker 4: before the reverse pass and then they had yesterday, they 2525 02:07:32,920 --> 02:07:35,160 Speaker 4: got back in tied the game up. After just getting 2526 02:07:35,160 --> 02:07:37,720 Speaker 4: their heads handed to them for most of the first half, 2527 02:07:38,120 --> 02:07:39,720 Speaker 4: they got back in and tied the game up. 2528 02:07:40,240 --> 02:07:40,320 Speaker 11: Uh. 2529 02:07:40,440 --> 02:07:43,280 Speaker 4: They did the same thing in the Arizona game early 2530 02:07:43,280 --> 02:07:48,240 Speaker 4: in the season, both offensively and defensively. These staffs really 2531 02:07:48,320 --> 02:07:50,120 Speaker 4: seem to get it together once they get into the 2532 02:07:50,120 --> 02:07:53,160 Speaker 4: game and see and dissect what's going on out there. 2533 02:07:54,040 --> 02:07:57,200 Speaker 4: We would love to see it a little faster, no 2534 02:07:57,360 --> 02:08:02,080 Speaker 4: question about it. And Uh, now you go back to 2535 02:08:02,120 --> 02:08:05,280 Speaker 4: the Baltimore game, there's not much you can do when 2536 02:08:05,400 --> 02:08:08,200 Speaker 4: the first play from scrimmage goes, you know, seventy nine 2537 02:08:08,280 --> 02:08:09,480 Speaker 4: yards or whatever it was. 2538 02:08:10,920 --> 02:08:11,680 Speaker 3: For a touchdown. 2539 02:08:11,720 --> 02:08:15,640 Speaker 4: You don't get to adjust to anything right eighty seven yards. 2540 02:08:15,680 --> 02:08:19,640 Speaker 4: So you there's that. But I think that's been part 2541 02:08:19,680 --> 02:08:22,280 Speaker 4: of the conversation today. I got I like the two 2542 02:08:22,320 --> 02:08:26,440 Speaker 4: coordinators they've got, Bobby Babbage and Joe Brady, but they 2543 02:08:26,440 --> 02:08:28,400 Speaker 4: need to come into the game with a little bit 2544 02:08:28,480 --> 02:08:32,440 Speaker 4: more for their players, more production. They gotta have more 2545 02:08:32,440 --> 02:08:34,600 Speaker 4: for their players. They've got to be better earlier on 2546 02:08:34,640 --> 02:08:39,120 Speaker 4: and whatever that is, find out what's holding them back, 2547 02:08:39,880 --> 02:08:43,160 Speaker 4: fix it and get a faster start because the adjustment 2548 02:08:43,240 --> 02:08:44,600 Speaker 4: packages have been great. 2549 02:08:45,160 --> 02:08:48,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, let's go to Peter in Massachusetts. What's up, Peter? 2550 02:08:49,320 --> 02:08:50,440 Speaker 5: Oh, hey, guys, how you doing? 2551 02:08:50,440 --> 02:08:51,120 Speaker 8: Its good? 2552 02:08:51,920 --> 02:08:53,160 Speaker 24: Okay? I got like three points. 2553 02:08:53,200 --> 02:08:54,040 Speaker 9: I'd like to make sure. 2554 02:08:54,240 --> 02:09:00,240 Speaker 24: Okay. So one, I'm infuriated about the James Cook play 2555 02:09:00,360 --> 02:09:05,800 Speaker 24: and the dolphin killed dlphin catch he made on the 2556 02:09:06,440 --> 02:09:08,480 Speaker 24: you know, amazing catch he made on the sideline that 2557 02:09:08,520 --> 02:09:11,560 Speaker 24: we did not challenge those, but we're saving the time outs. 2558 02:09:11,560 --> 02:09:14,200 Speaker 24: There's only two of good up at the place we 2559 02:09:14,320 --> 02:09:16,600 Speaker 24: made out of maybe six the whole game lead any 2560 02:09:16,680 --> 02:09:19,240 Speaker 24: challenge and we let those go away at point one 2561 02:09:19,320 --> 02:09:22,800 Speaker 24: point two Churis Samuels four three, one speed. Why can't 2562 02:09:22,840 --> 02:09:24,880 Speaker 24: we get them the ball? All we do is one out. 2563 02:09:25,320 --> 02:09:28,320 Speaker 24: Franken screen passes right. You know he should be able 2564 02:09:28,360 --> 02:09:30,720 Speaker 24: to get separation, which treats me. The point number three 2565 02:09:31,520 --> 02:09:33,400 Speaker 24: is a lack of talent or. 2566 02:09:33,400 --> 02:09:34,400 Speaker 8: Is it Brady? 2567 02:09:34,840 --> 02:09:38,800 Speaker 24: You know ny Reid would scheme someone up. You know 2568 02:09:38,840 --> 02:09:41,960 Speaker 24: it doesn't you know? So I don't understand why we're 2569 02:09:41,960 --> 02:09:43,200 Speaker 24: four of eighteen. 2570 02:09:42,840 --> 02:09:46,840 Speaker 8: The receivers right with the targets. I think your opinions, Yeah, 2571 02:09:46,920 --> 02:09:48,800 Speaker 8: I get a holiday, my man. 2572 02:09:49,240 --> 02:09:52,360 Speaker 2: No, you're right. I would say with respect to the 2573 02:09:52,440 --> 02:09:55,440 Speaker 2: challenges Peter, there's a reason they didn't challenge either one. 2574 02:09:56,000 --> 02:09:59,840 Speaker 2: Sean McDermott has guys upstairs looking at the replays, even 2575 02:09:59,840 --> 02:10:01,960 Speaker 2: had as a former NFL official. 2576 02:10:01,880 --> 02:10:04,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, John Perry, John Perry, and who's. 2577 02:10:04,800 --> 02:10:08,440 Speaker 2: Charged with doing just that. And what we eventually saw 2578 02:10:08,920 --> 02:10:11,760 Speaker 2: on the Cook replay, and he made a tremendous catch 2579 02:10:11,800 --> 02:10:15,600 Speaker 2: down the sideline despite tight coverage, was his elbow came 2580 02:10:15,640 --> 02:10:17,320 Speaker 2: down out of bounds. If he gets one foot in 2581 02:10:17,360 --> 02:10:20,240 Speaker 2: an elbow in bounds, it is a good catch and 2582 02:10:20,280 --> 02:10:22,480 Speaker 2: you should challenge. But it was clear his elbow hit 2583 02:10:22,520 --> 02:10:26,960 Speaker 2: the sideline. And then on the Kincaid catch, they ruled 2584 02:10:27,000 --> 02:10:29,760 Speaker 2: it incomplete because they said he was bobbling the ball 2585 02:10:29,800 --> 02:10:32,560 Speaker 2: and didn't secure it. And while I disagreed with what 2586 02:10:32,600 --> 02:10:34,680 Speaker 2: the referee said, the reason it was not going to 2587 02:10:34,720 --> 02:10:37,120 Speaker 2: be overturned was because the ball made contact with the 2588 02:10:37,160 --> 02:10:40,440 Speaker 2: ground and as soon as that happens, there's no way 2589 02:10:40,440 --> 02:10:43,800 Speaker 2: they're overturning what's called an incomplete pass. So hopefully that 2590 02:10:43,880 --> 02:10:46,360 Speaker 2: explains that you want to address Samuel downfield. It does 2591 02:10:46,400 --> 02:10:48,520 Speaker 2: make sense. He's four, he runs a four to three. 2592 02:10:48,800 --> 02:10:50,840 Speaker 2: He hasn't run a route over ten yards all season. 2593 02:10:51,400 --> 02:10:52,880 Speaker 4: I'd like to see him take the lid off the 2594 02:10:52,920 --> 02:10:55,320 Speaker 4: defense once in a while. With Samuel, no question about it. 2595 02:10:55,320 --> 02:10:57,600 Speaker 4: I haven't been real happy with the way Josh has 2596 02:10:57,600 --> 02:10:59,480 Speaker 4: tried to hit his deep balls. He's missed a ton 2597 02:10:59,520 --> 02:11:02,960 Speaker 4: of them that were open and just not being able 2598 02:11:02,960 --> 02:11:05,360 Speaker 4: to put the ball on the guy. Whether it's been 2599 02:11:05,400 --> 02:11:07,800 Speaker 4: a guy getting hitting him while he was delivering it 2600 02:11:08,000 --> 02:11:10,760 Speaker 4: or just not putting enough air under it. 2601 02:11:12,080 --> 02:11:14,760 Speaker 3: That he's just hasn't been good yet. They have not connected. 2602 02:11:14,880 --> 02:11:19,920 Speaker 4: And it's taken a great catch by Keon Coleman to 2603 02:11:19,960 --> 02:11:22,400 Speaker 4: get a deep ball down the sideline. 2604 02:11:23,000 --> 02:11:23,360 Speaker 11: You know that. 2605 02:11:23,560 --> 02:11:27,160 Speaker 4: And Hollin's last yesterday was wide open. He was four 2606 02:11:27,240 --> 02:11:29,000 Speaker 4: yards behind everybody and they miss. 2607 02:11:29,600 --> 02:11:32,680 Speaker 2: I mean, that's just scaling and early in the season. 2608 02:11:32,840 --> 02:11:35,680 Speaker 4: I just that is the that's infuriating to me that 2609 02:11:35,800 --> 02:11:37,000 Speaker 4: you gotta hit those. 2610 02:11:37,280 --> 02:11:38,040 Speaker 3: You got to hit those. 2611 02:11:38,040 --> 02:11:40,080 Speaker 4: You got an elite quarterback. He's got to make that throw. 2612 02:11:40,240 --> 02:11:42,560 Speaker 4: And I know he's you could see after they showed 2613 02:11:42,640 --> 02:11:45,000 Speaker 4: the replay he's down on got his hands on both knees, 2614 02:11:45,080 --> 02:11:48,920 Speaker 4: bent over looking at the ground. He's so ticked and 2615 02:11:48,960 --> 02:11:51,520 Speaker 4: he should have been. It was a touchdown. And in 2616 02:11:51,600 --> 02:11:53,080 Speaker 4: a game he lost by three points. 2617 02:11:54,360 --> 02:11:56,520 Speaker 2: Break time for us here, got some time for some 2618 02:11:56,560 --> 02:11:58,560 Speaker 2: final calls when we get back here on one Bill's 2619 02:11:58,560 --> 02:12:17,200 Speaker 2: Live on a Buffalo Football Monday, Stay tuned. This week's 2620 02:12:17,240 --> 02:12:20,240 Speaker 2: efficient Drive of the game is presented by National Grid, 2621 02:12:20,240 --> 02:12:22,760 Speaker 2: a proud partner of the Buffalo Bills. Came in the 2622 02:12:22,760 --> 02:12:26,320 Speaker 2: third quarter six plays, seventy yards to twenty seven off 2623 02:12:26,360 --> 02:12:30,080 Speaker 2: the clock and camp by a five yard touchdown run 2624 02:12:30,360 --> 02:12:32,840 Speaker 2: from James Cook, who got a little bit of assistance 2625 02:12:33,200 --> 02:12:38,560 Speaker 2: on a second effort shove by mainly Spencer Brown and 2626 02:12:38,720 --> 02:12:41,520 Speaker 2: Connor McGovern, and then Osiris Torrance got in there on 2627 02:12:41,560 --> 02:12:45,280 Speaker 2: the act as well to finally put the ball in 2628 02:12:45,320 --> 02:12:47,880 Speaker 2: the end zone there in the third quarter after scoring 2629 02:12:47,880 --> 02:12:51,360 Speaker 2: only three points in the first half. Let's get back 2630 02:12:51,360 --> 02:12:55,120 Speaker 2: to the phones and we'll squeeze in Eric in Tanawanda here. 2631 02:12:55,160 --> 02:12:55,760 Speaker 2: What do you got for us? 2632 02:12:55,880 --> 02:13:00,280 Speaker 5: Eric, Well, my. 2633 02:13:00,280 --> 02:13:04,880 Speaker 25: Concern is receiver. I mean, the drops are tremendous. Yesterday 2634 02:13:05,280 --> 02:13:07,960 Speaker 25: I went to the game. I could hardly sit through it. 2635 02:13:08,040 --> 02:13:08,760 Speaker 25: The first half. 2636 02:13:09,440 --> 02:13:10,120 Speaker 11: It was brutal. 2637 02:13:12,200 --> 02:13:17,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I get it. I don't think Josh, 2638 02:13:18,400 --> 02:13:21,040 Speaker 2: what about a Key Perry from New Orleans? 2639 02:13:21,080 --> 02:13:25,360 Speaker 25: I mean he's a young talented receiver who's not being used. 2640 02:13:25,440 --> 02:13:28,800 Speaker 25: He's on the practice squad. Now why not grab him? 2641 02:13:28,960 --> 02:13:29,760 Speaker 24: He's low risk. 2642 02:13:30,680 --> 02:13:33,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, I understand what you're saying. You want to incorporate 2643 02:13:34,040 --> 02:13:36,040 Speaker 2: him into the offense. That's going to take some time. 2644 02:13:36,120 --> 02:13:38,880 Speaker 2: We know it's a voluminous offense to boot. And then 2645 02:13:38,920 --> 02:13:41,440 Speaker 2: on top of that, the way Joe Brady operates, it's 2646 02:13:41,480 --> 02:13:48,840 Speaker 2: to learn every position at the receiver spot x Z slot, 2647 02:13:49,080 --> 02:13:52,520 Speaker 2: So you got to know all the rules and that 2648 02:13:52,640 --> 02:13:54,920 Speaker 2: takes time. So to do that just to get a 2649 02:13:54,960 --> 02:13:58,800 Speaker 2: guy in here that is low risk, and I mean, 2650 02:13:58,840 --> 02:14:00,600 Speaker 2: you're expecting him to go boot, I don't know if 2651 02:14:00,600 --> 02:14:02,280 Speaker 2: I would count on that. There's a reason he's on 2652 02:14:02,320 --> 02:14:02,919 Speaker 2: a practice. 2653 02:14:02,720 --> 02:14:04,360 Speaker 4: It would take him and the guy might be great, 2654 02:14:05,040 --> 02:14:06,840 Speaker 4: but it's going to take him innute to get him ready. 2655 02:14:07,560 --> 02:14:09,120 Speaker 3: So he's not gonna be ready this week. If even 2656 02:14:09,120 --> 02:14:09,600 Speaker 3: if you got. 2657 02:14:09,520 --> 02:14:15,160 Speaker 4: Him today, Yeah, I'm I I'll reiterate what I said. 2658 02:14:15,280 --> 02:14:18,600 Speaker 4: I don't necessarily agree with Eric. Better players make you better, 2659 02:14:18,680 --> 02:14:21,560 Speaker 4: no question, but you've got you've got to have. You know, 2660 02:14:21,560 --> 02:14:23,080 Speaker 4: what's it gonna take to get him here? And what's 2661 02:14:23,280 --> 02:14:25,600 Speaker 4: one are the long term ramvocations And I have not 2662 02:14:25,680 --> 02:14:29,680 Speaker 4: given up on this group. I want khalilsha Kir is 2663 02:14:29,760 --> 02:14:32,040 Speaker 4: important to this offense. He was not there yesterday and 2664 02:14:32,040 --> 02:14:33,000 Speaker 4: I think it made a big difference. 2665 02:14:33,120 --> 02:14:35,520 Speaker 2: Highest catch right player in the league ninety four point 2666 02:14:35,560 --> 02:14:38,720 Speaker 2: seven makes a difference. That's it for us today. We'll 2667 02:14:38,760 --> 02:14:41,160 Speaker 2: catch you tomorrow at one. We'll have dan Orlowski from 2668 02:14:41,400 --> 02:14:43,560 Speaker 2: ESPN on. He'll break this down as well, and look 2669 02:14:43,560 --> 02:14:44,920 Speaker 2: ahead to the Jets. We'll see you then.