WEBVTT - The Problem With Urban Living, Ft. Saint Andrew 0:00:00.000 --> 0:00:10.920 Oh it could welcome here the podcast that happens ship. 0:00:12.880 --> 0:00:16.520 All right, Well St Andrew, I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm 0:00:16.560 --> 0:00:18.759 gonna pivot to you to pull us out of this 0:00:18.880 --> 0:00:25.280 tailspin I've locked. Hello. Hello, what's the seen everyone today? 0:00:25.320 --> 0:00:28.440 I wanted to go on a bit of a personal meandering, 0:00:28.520 --> 0:00:32.120 I guess on Um, some of the ideas and concepts 0:00:32.120 --> 0:00:34.880 are just kind of fluting on my head, um, surrounding 0:00:35.040 --> 0:00:39.600 sustainable city planning and city living. I want to see 0:00:39.600 --> 0:00:42.559 a lot of these ideas and stuff. Um, I'm just 0:00:43.960 --> 0:00:48.879 crimp them from like all over the place, and in 0:00:48.920 --> 0:00:53.080 some cases they are a bit less I would say 0:00:54.240 --> 0:00:58.080 viable and others. But I do find like the work 0:00:58.160 --> 0:01:03.240 of for example, lu tech magazine, dot com and um 0:01:03.320 --> 0:01:07.160 and so on to be very inspiring in terms of 0:01:07.200 --> 0:01:14.800 all capabilities, Um, what potential there is an obsolete technologies, 0:01:15.520 --> 0:01:21.800 what the tech solutions exist for issues, and what we 0:01:21.840 --> 0:01:25.279 can do as people to just kind of make living 0:01:25.319 --> 0:01:37.080 in urban sprawl or suburban hell a little bit less hellish. Yeah. 0:01:37.160 --> 0:01:39.200 That is definitely a topic close to my heart as 0:01:39.240 --> 0:01:42.199 well as someone who lives in a city. I would 0:01:42.240 --> 0:01:47.000 like cities to be less hellish. Yeah, that seems, and 0:01:47.040 --> 0:01:52.240 I would like suburbs and not exist. So internal more 0:01:52.320 --> 0:01:55.200 on the suburbs. We have to ally with rural America 0:01:55.320 --> 0:02:01.559 and protracted people against the suburbs. Yes, yes, yeah, my my, 0:02:01.560 --> 0:02:04.840 my crank proposal has always been reintroducing Macedons and just 0:02:05.120 --> 0:02:09.080 like just having macedons, just like walking through and destroying buildings, 0:02:09.120 --> 0:02:12.760 because that's that's what the suburbs deserves. Mastadons is in 0:02:12.840 --> 0:02:17.480 the actual animals. Yes, yes, I thought you meant like 0:02:17.520 --> 0:02:21.359 the social media platform. No, no, I think we need 0:02:21.440 --> 0:02:24.040 to clone leopards so that they breed as quickly as 0:02:24.120 --> 0:02:27.840 rabbits and just let them loose. Wasn't Dr Defferend Schmootz 0:02:27.919 --> 0:02:32.120 raised by lepids? Sure? Why not? I would Robertino, who 0:02:32.160 --> 0:02:38.760 doctor ches? No, Okay, let's just let's just let's just 0:02:38.840 --> 0:02:46.799 let's just let's just move on. Okay. I think I'm I'm, 0:02:47.120 --> 0:02:49.240 I think I think we are. We are roughly the 0:02:49.240 --> 0:02:52.519 same in the same age bracket. For television, we watched 0:02:52.600 --> 0:02:58.520 so I'M movies to catch up on. I'm very familiar 0:02:58.600 --> 0:03:04.280 with the Good Doctor. The platypus pilled, very very very platypilled, 0:03:04.320 --> 0:03:15.040 as they say, platipilled. Let's right. So, um, there are 0:03:15.040 --> 0:03:20.359 a lot of aspects of my evil plan to make 0:03:20.440 --> 0:03:25.480 the entire tri state area more sustainable, but I think 0:03:25.480 --> 0:03:27.680 I would want to start with something that tends to 0:03:27.720 --> 0:03:31.120 consume a lot of the energy in cities, and that 0:03:31.320 --> 0:03:34.480 is like heating and cooling. I mean, for me, living 0:03:34.520 --> 0:03:39.480 in a tropical country, heating has never been a consideration. Um. 0:03:39.520 --> 0:03:44.040 I mean, the coolest it gets isn't like the I 0:03:44.040 --> 0:03:49.440 would say, like eighteen nineteen twenty degrees celsius area. Um, 0:03:50.920 --> 0:03:54.400 And to me, that is like chili. That's like layering 0:03:54.920 --> 0:03:57.000 up kind of thing, because I can't handle that kind 0:03:57.000 --> 0:03:59.240 of cool um, which is kind of wild to me 0:03:59.240 --> 0:04:02.600 that I have a concern moving to kind of I 0:04:02.600 --> 0:04:05.640 don't think it's a handle it. It does, it does get, 0:04:06.120 --> 0:04:08.520 it does get much colder. I mean we when I 0:04:08.560 --> 0:04:11.800 was in Canada, we would have not not uncommonly have 0:04:11.960 --> 0:04:19.720 minus forty celsius weeks. So yeah, yeah, I experienced minus 0:04:19.800 --> 0:04:25.359 degrees before. I don't know, No, it is, Oh, it's fine, 0:04:25.440 --> 0:04:27.159 it's it's not a big deal. You just put on 0:04:27.200 --> 0:04:29.320 an extra pair of socks. You're good to go. Okay, 0:04:29.400 --> 0:04:32.560 So when when it when it hits negative forty degrees fahrenheit. 0:04:34.440 --> 0:04:37.719 You've experienced negative forty degrees It's not like it's not 0:04:37.800 --> 0:04:43.359 like temperatures like negative negative forty. Negative forty fahrenheit is 0:04:44.040 --> 0:04:46.920 the temperature of the surface of bars are a sunny day. 0:04:48.640 --> 0:04:52.480 Negative fairness is the same as negative forty celsius. Oh 0:04:52.560 --> 0:04:56.560 is it they actually converted at that point? Yeah, it's 0:04:56.600 --> 0:05:01.719 like you just yeah, yeah, it's just your hain like 0:05:01.760 --> 0:05:04.080 it's not even cold anymore. Like you just like your 0:05:04.120 --> 0:05:07.400 your face just hurts. It's It's great. Many time, I'm 0:05:07.400 --> 0:05:10.120 going to call out my my, my favorite meme again 0:05:10.240 --> 0:05:14.000 and have negative forty fahrenheit, negative forty selfius celsius clapping 0:05:14.040 --> 0:05:23.400 hands in the middle. Yeah, classics anyway, yes, yea, Honestly, 0:05:25.080 --> 0:05:29.600 I can't even conceive of that kind of temperature. Um 0:05:29.640 --> 0:05:35.120 I am an island boy, so that's how I operate, 0:05:36.120 --> 0:05:39.240 and as an island boy, um I had to say that. 0:05:39.320 --> 0:05:46.880 Like heat is very very uncomfortable. Humidic humid heat is 0:05:46.920 --> 0:05:52.159 even more uncomfortable. Dry heat is also extremely uncomfortable. When 0:05:52.160 --> 0:05:56.440 you have a hot day combined with like sahara and 0:05:56.520 --> 0:06:02.159 dust in the air and no clouds in the sky. 0:06:02.480 --> 0:06:11.880 It is truly, truly miserable. I can't imagine, um, what 0:06:13.240 --> 0:06:17.719 life in a city would be like if um, you know, 0:06:17.760 --> 0:06:22.920 these sort of temperatures continue to climb as they are climbing, um, 0:06:22.960 --> 0:06:26.920 as we're seeing you know, global average temperatures rising by 0:06:27.040 --> 0:06:30.920 you know, a half degree or a degree or two 0:06:31.000 --> 0:06:34.080 degrees celsie. That's just ridiculous, let alone three or four 0:06:34.120 --> 0:06:40.320 degrees celsius increase, especially compounded with the fact that in 0:06:40.320 --> 0:06:44.039 a city, there's this thing called the urban heat island effect, 0:06:44.520 --> 0:06:48.000 So cities are ten degrees c it's hotter than the 0:06:48.080 --> 0:06:51.919 surrounding countryside. And the reasons for the other numerous. You know, 0:06:52.000 --> 0:06:56.760 you have like vehicles emitting heat constantly, you have air 0:06:56.800 --> 0:07:02.200 conditioners camping heat into the air. You have concrete covering 0:07:02.400 --> 0:07:07.560 every surface just like absorbing and radiating the sun's rays. 0:07:07.880 --> 0:07:10.760 And you have these urban canyons between tall buildings to 0:07:10.880 --> 0:07:14.000 prevent heat from escaping from and to keep it at 0:07:14.000 --> 0:07:19.560 the sort of street level. It's miserable, right, And the 0:07:19.640 --> 0:07:23.560 typical solutions, the individual solutions, the short term solutions, they 0:07:24.280 --> 0:07:26.760 just make the situation worse because, I mean, when you're 0:07:26.760 --> 0:07:28.760 feeling hot, I mean I was just feeling hot just now, 0:07:28.880 --> 0:07:31.080 and I feel on the e C. Right when you're 0:07:31.080 --> 0:07:32.440 feeling hot, you know you're doing on the e C. 0:07:32.760 --> 0:07:36.120 Or you put on a fan, but not to wash 0:07:36.120 --> 0:07:39.840 a fan. But the e C continues and fuels this 0:07:40.120 --> 0:07:43.840 vicious cycle of heating the outdoors to cool the indoors, 0:07:44.240 --> 0:07:48.600 making experience spaces even more uncomfortable. So you end up 0:07:48.640 --> 0:07:53.680 with air conditioning use accounting for like one five of 0:07:53.800 --> 0:07:58.360 global energy electricity usage of building related global electricity usage. 0:07:59.240 --> 0:08:02.200 And do you end up with the thing that's supposed 0:08:02.200 --> 0:08:06.560 to be cooling us heating things even more because you know, 0:08:06.680 --> 0:08:11.640 as developing countries, you know they have access to one 0:08:11.640 --> 0:08:14.120 and more air conditioning, especially and you know toveloping countries 0:08:14.160 --> 0:08:17.880 and to be in the hotter side of the world. Um, 0:08:17.920 --> 0:08:19.800 you know, the use of the air condition just continues 0:08:19.960 --> 0:08:26.080 to skyrocket. And um the International Energy Agency actually estimated 0:08:26.120 --> 0:08:29.160 that it would take the amounts of energy needed to 0:08:29.280 --> 0:08:33.400 cool buildings will triple by twenty fift which is equivalent 0:08:33.640 --> 0:08:37.080 to the current elecacy demand in the US and Germany combined. 0:08:41.080 --> 0:08:45.000 So on top of all that, you will have an 0:08:45.000 --> 0:08:52.360 issue of like heat and heat deaths, right, the deaths 0:08:52.360 --> 0:08:55.840 and injuries caused by heat. I mean, heat stroke is 0:08:56.920 --> 0:09:00.560 becoming more and more of an issue in cities, especially 0:09:00.600 --> 0:09:04.400 when you know temperatures reach above twenty five degrees celsius. 0:09:04.559 --> 0:09:07.320 People you know, manual labels, people who work outside, people 0:09:07.320 --> 0:09:09.360 who just have to move around a lot, you know, 0:09:09.400 --> 0:09:13.079 experience the symptom the symptoms of heat stroke whenever there 0:09:13.240 --> 0:09:16.040 is like the spike in temperature, right and then even 0:09:16.360 --> 0:09:18.200 you know, if you don't experience like a heat stroke, 0:09:19.160 --> 0:09:26.199 heat is exhausting. It is energy draining, is utterly sapping, 0:09:26.640 --> 0:09:31.080 and it requires a lot out of your body to 0:09:31.760 --> 0:09:38.720 keep you cool and prevent you from like eating. And surprisingly, 0:09:40.080 --> 0:09:42.640 this overheating is you is not just like you know, 0:09:42.840 --> 0:09:46.559 a tropical issue or like a hot country is issue, 0:09:47.200 --> 0:09:52.400 like places like Moscow had like an asthmating eleven thod 0:09:52.480 --> 0:09:57.160 people die due to heat wave in twenty ten. And 0:09:57.200 --> 0:09:59.080 so with all these heat waves and stuff, we need 0:09:59.120 --> 0:10:02.240 to like figure out what to do with all these 0:10:02.280 --> 0:10:06.319 giant concrete buildings. I mean, and for some people, like 0:10:08.000 --> 0:10:13.400 eco brutalism is you know, wow, so cool to me personally, 0:10:13.720 --> 0:10:16.000 and this is just my subjective opinion. I find it 0:10:16.200 --> 0:10:19.960 ugly and disgusting and I hated, but you know each 0:10:20.000 --> 0:10:25.160 soon right. Brutalism discourse, I mean, what what do you 0:10:25.240 --> 0:10:32.200 all think of rutalism. I think Yugoslavia and brutalism was cool. 0:10:32.400 --> 0:10:35.320 Every other kind of brutalism is just like my opinions 0:10:35.360 --> 0:10:38.800 on brutalism boiled down to thinking the game control is fun. 0:10:40.280 --> 0:10:45.960 I have stayed in a Yugoslavian brutalist architecture hotel, which 0:10:46.040 --> 0:10:48.080 was one of the weirdest nights of my life because 0:10:48.120 --> 0:10:49.839 it was clearly made. It was like one of these 0:10:49.880 --> 0:10:52.840 gigantic like people's hotels that was meant to provide everyone 0:10:52.840 --> 0:10:55.800 with vacations, and so there's like twenty thousand rooms and 0:10:55.840 --> 0:10:57.760 we were like the only three people there. So there 0:10:57.800 --> 0:11:00.360 was one person at the desk, and it's just favern 0:11:00.520 --> 0:11:05.040 of empty rooms such this. Everything felt like a liminal space. 0:11:05.120 --> 0:11:07.719 It was. It was very odd. It can be, it 0:11:07.760 --> 0:11:11.640 can be very very uncanny. It wasn't like bad, it 0:11:11.720 --> 0:11:15.960 was like reasonably well constructed. It was just deeply strange. 0:11:16.040 --> 0:11:18.000 I mean, that's whet to spend the night. I think 0:11:18.040 --> 0:11:20.480 that's what makes the game control so cool, is that, Yeah, 0:11:20.480 --> 0:11:24.080 it plays with those uncanny feelings on brutalism while still 0:11:24.120 --> 0:11:28.200 being like very cool, like it's still is the game 0:11:28.280 --> 0:11:31.680 that Jacob Keller made a video. Vote right, yes he 0:11:31.760 --> 0:11:33.320 made a he he didn't make a video like I 0:11:33.320 --> 0:11:36.480 watched that recently. This is like the sort of oldest 0:11:36.559 --> 0:11:40.360 house kind of thing, right right, right right? Yeah, yeah, 0:11:40.640 --> 0:11:43.360 I wanted to go that game because I mean that's 0:11:43.360 --> 0:11:46.080 what that's kind of like my issue a brutalism. It 0:11:46.160 --> 0:11:51.560 feels like a boss level in a video game, like 0:11:51.640 --> 0:11:53.679 you have to go through each level clear what's all 0:11:53.720 --> 0:11:55.960 dominians and it gets it Tot and Peter the boss. 0:11:56.600 --> 0:12:00.520 It's kind of unsettling, yes, and then like eism is 0:12:00.559 --> 0:12:06.520 just like oh what if trees tres Yeah, and it's 0:12:06.600 --> 0:12:09.679 like okay cool. But I mean like one of my 0:12:10.080 --> 0:12:15.280 many occupations and I still maintain it seasonally. Um. I 0:12:15.360 --> 0:12:18.480 was a power washer and I hate moss, and so 0:12:18.559 --> 0:12:21.000 to see moss all over buildings just really bothers me, 0:12:21.040 --> 0:12:22.720 Like I just want to get, you know, my spring 0:12:22.720 --> 0:12:28.040 gun and just clear it all off. Um, and especially 0:12:28.080 --> 0:12:31.280 in like this climate, moss is like a very significant issue. 0:12:31.320 --> 0:12:35.560 So that that makes sense, you know. Yeah, one of 0:12:35.600 --> 0:12:40.280 my pet peeves among many. So I mean there's many 0:12:40.320 --> 0:12:43.719 different ways we could combat the when heat island effects 0:12:44.040 --> 0:12:50.839 um that don't involve equo brutalism. And they can also 0:12:50.880 --> 0:12:54.360 help to facility, you know, creating more attractive spaces to 0:12:54.440 --> 0:12:59.080 live and to play. You know. UM. Obviously the solution 0:12:59.160 --> 0:13:01.760 isn't just like those every building that ever been built 0:13:02.240 --> 0:13:04.840 and make it more sustainable, you know, with vernacular materials 0:13:04.840 --> 0:13:07.360 and stuff. So of course new buildings should be built 0:13:07.360 --> 0:13:10.800 with those principles in mind. UM. But you know it's 0:13:10.800 --> 0:13:14.320 not practical to us even sustainable to destroy all the 0:13:14.320 --> 0:13:17.520 buildings we've already built and rebuild them. You know, the 0:13:17.559 --> 0:13:22.840 best thing we can do is try to mitigate and 0:13:23.000 --> 0:13:29.200 adapt with what we already have. UM. Greenery and I 0:13:29.200 --> 0:13:32.760 know it's just roasting eco brutalism just trap slack trees 0:13:32.800 --> 0:13:37.840 and everything is an important part in that, right because 0:13:37.920 --> 0:13:43.280 you know it called it causes evapple transporation, which is 0:13:43.280 --> 0:13:48.600 like where what's evaporates and plants leaves and cools the temperature. Um. 0:13:48.640 --> 0:13:56.360 You know, it also improve people's like psychological well being, um. 0:13:56.400 --> 0:13:59.880 And they just the nice look at um then I 0:14:00.120 --> 0:14:02.120 look at the keep things cool. In fact, they could 0:14:02.120 --> 0:14:04.760 help cause temperatures to drop by like two to three 0:14:04.800 --> 0:14:08.920 degrees celsius in the like the surrounding area. I think 0:14:08.960 --> 0:14:11.120 people certainly was interpreted, but like this, this is one 0:14:11.120 --> 0:14:13.320 of the big things you can see with with racism 0:14:13.320 --> 0:14:16.000 in the U s. Where like you can literally like 0:14:16.360 --> 0:14:18.439 you can literally track racial device in a lot of 0:14:18.480 --> 0:14:22.440 American cities by the by the temperature because like people 0:14:22.480 --> 0:14:25.520 places where not why people live just don't have trees. 0:14:26.480 --> 0:14:31.000 And you know this this has like a just this 0:14:31.120 --> 0:14:36.520 sort of like cascading series of environmental and social effects 0:14:36.560 --> 0:14:44.200 which are a disaster and environmental racism, yeah, yes, released stock. Honestly, 0:14:44.240 --> 0:14:45.600 if you look at the heat maps with some of 0:14:45.640 --> 0:14:48.280 these cities and you could literally see, you know, where 0:14:48.920 --> 0:14:52.080 poor black folks live. You know, you can see the 0:14:52.120 --> 0:14:56.000 places with less trees, the places next to factories with 0:14:56.120 --> 0:14:58.040 like talks like you're on a off and waste and 0:14:58.080 --> 0:15:02.480 that kind of thing. It's just right there and it sucks, 0:15:05.680 --> 0:15:08.560 which is why, of course, part of any sort of 0:15:08.880 --> 0:15:17.480 efforts to improve cities and make things more sustainable would involve, 0:15:17.720 --> 0:15:23.280 you know, social justice and would involve responding to an 0:15:23.280 --> 0:15:29.240 addressing the compounding effects of like environmental racism over the 0:15:29.280 --> 0:15:33.120 past several decades. So you know, and part of the 0:15:33.160 --> 0:15:37.640 issue again trying things back to environmental racism, is that 0:15:38.800 --> 0:15:41.680 a lot of the climate change policies that you know, 0:15:42.120 --> 0:15:48.320 ostensibly amend to fever, like high density urban and smart 0:15:48.400 --> 0:15:51.720 growth you know, like sustainable blocks and that kind of thing, 0:15:53.360 --> 0:15:57.120 they are not conceived or implemented in a way that 0:15:57.520 --> 0:16:02.560 involves the people being acted by them. You know. In fact, 0:16:02.640 --> 0:16:07.320 a lot of these like sort of green um projects 0:16:08.640 --> 0:16:13.160 raise the cost of food, energy, water, transport, housing for 0:16:13.280 --> 0:16:16.440 people in the area. You know, they create these sorts 0:16:16.480 --> 0:16:21.480 of like gentrified neighborhoods essentially whether the original inhabitants can 0:16:21.520 --> 0:16:26.560 no longer afford to live there. So if we wants 0:16:26.600 --> 0:16:31.320 to develop like a sustainable city or resiliencity, sustainable obvious 0:16:31.320 --> 0:16:38.960 again neighborhood, it requires social justice, It requires you know, equity, 0:16:39.160 --> 0:16:45.960 and you know, like the involvement of all affected through 0:16:46.520 --> 0:16:55.480 you know, consensus or democracy. UM just really shape the 0:16:55.600 --> 0:16:59.920 future that you know, they will be experiencing because they 0:17:00.040 --> 0:17:04.240 the ones being affected by it. There a lot of 0:17:04.280 --> 0:17:07.840 other ways as well to heap proof as it were 0:17:07.880 --> 0:17:13.800 a city, UM reflective roofs and roads UM can also 0:17:13.880 --> 0:17:21.400 helped reduce the absorptive powers of UM solar radiation by 0:17:22.200 --> 0:17:25.840 concrete and asphalt. So in fact, in some cities like 0:17:26.560 --> 0:17:29.800 l A and in New York, there's this wide reflective 0:17:29.880 --> 0:17:36.280 coating that UM has been implemented in some five thousand 0:17:36.840 --> 0:17:40.800 meters square of roof space that saves an estimated two 0:17:40.880 --> 0:17:45.280 thousand two tons of CEO two per year from cooling emissions. 0:17:46.200 --> 0:17:47.879 I mean, all it takes really is just like that 0:17:48.000 --> 0:17:53.520 sort of white reflective code, and it saves dividends in 0:17:53.600 --> 0:17:58.359 the long run. UM NASA had done some research on 0:17:58.480 --> 0:18:02.280 this and it demonstra e to the results demonstrated that 0:18:02.320 --> 0:18:05.800 a white roof could be twenty three degrees celsius or 0:18:05.960 --> 0:18:09.560 forty two degrees fahrenheit cooler than a typical black roof 0:18:10.119 --> 0:18:16.159 UM on a hot New York somebody UM and in 0:18:16.400 --> 0:18:21.080 places where like yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm sorry, it's kind 0:18:21.080 --> 0:18:23.000 of like glossed the river. That is crazy, that is 0:18:23.359 --> 0:18:31.480 absolutely absolutely And then cities where like we're like of 0:18:31.560 --> 0:18:35.199 the land area is like asphalt. You can imagine how 0:18:35.480 --> 0:18:40.480 that sort of UM, that sort of reflective ceilon can 0:18:40.600 --> 0:18:48.480 impact UM the cooling or the heating of the area water. 0:18:48.880 --> 0:18:53.400 Of course, there's another like important aspect of cooling cities 0:18:55.000 --> 0:19:01.679 um in and louse, which was like okay, the Muslim 0:19:01.800 --> 0:19:07.760 kingdom in Gabrian Peninsula in the fourteenth century. UM, they 0:19:07.840 --> 0:19:11.440 used to have these sort of like courtyards with pools 0:19:11.520 --> 0:19:17.000 and fountains. They would stimulate water evaporation and cool the air, 0:19:17.480 --> 0:19:21.240 and so like cities today, you know, take some hints 0:19:21.280 --> 0:19:23.840 from that. You know, you have ponds and pools and 0:19:23.920 --> 0:19:27.440 fountains and missing systems and stuff that can sort of 0:19:27.480 --> 0:19:30.280 chill things out. I mean we see that being UM 0:19:32.080 --> 0:19:37.280 implemented in China, where you have like, for example, UM 0:19:39.040 --> 0:19:43.480 water misteres at like bus stops, which can chill the 0:19:43.640 --> 0:19:47.320 air and you know, cool passengers as they wait. UM. 0:19:47.560 --> 0:19:51.560 And they found actually that adding water features and like 0:19:51.680 --> 0:19:56.560 cool coatings reduces the cooling requirements of an area by 0:19:56.640 --> 0:20:01.240 twenty nine tot and also lowers the overall averaging at 0:20:01.280 --> 0:20:04.720 temperature by one point five degrees celsius. So it's like, 0:20:05.680 --> 0:20:09.240 honestly wild, like these little things can have such a 0:20:09.440 --> 0:20:16.720 major impact on temperature. Speaking of like old methods of cooling, UM, 0:20:18.080 --> 0:20:22.359 ancient methods of cooling, there's this Middle Eastern shading device 0:20:22.520 --> 0:20:27.200 quality Mastra bil um or I think it's Mastra ba 0:20:28.359 --> 0:20:32.280 and It's basically an architectural element that is usually built 0:20:32.440 --> 0:20:38.919 by um wooden lattice work and sometimes stay in the glass. 0:20:40.040 --> 0:20:45.440 It's used to like catch and cool the wind through 0:20:45.560 --> 0:20:50.040 like having these basins of water in them. Is I mean, 0:20:50.040 --> 0:20:52.080 so I could try to describe it. It's like a 0:20:52.200 --> 0:20:57.639 window jutting out of a building UM with sort of 0:20:57.680 --> 0:21:01.800 decorated by lattice work, with jars and basins of water 0:21:01.960 --> 0:21:04.800 placed within them to let the wind pasture. As the 0:21:04.840 --> 0:21:07.880 wind is passing through, it's caused an evaporative cooling, then 0:21:08.000 --> 0:21:13.919 it chills out the interior. And so these mastra beas UM. 0:21:15.119 --> 0:21:18.440 They've been used since the Middle Ages by you know, 0:21:18.720 --> 0:21:25.840 the Coptic churches of Egypt and the Art Deco movement 0:21:26.040 --> 0:21:31.280 in Iraq, and and by you know the architecture um 0:21:31.560 --> 0:21:35.280 in bad Dad as well. And so these sort of 0:21:35.320 --> 0:21:38.920 construction methods, while they tend to be developed for you know, 0:21:39.760 --> 0:21:44.320 individual homes or individual buildings, UM, they can in fact 0:21:44.359 --> 0:21:49.640 be implemented um with even the aesthetics of Islamic geometry 0:21:50.359 --> 0:21:55.840 to help to cool a building and reduce its overall 0:21:55.880 --> 0:22:08.359 seor twe mission MH. So I've been talking about heats 0:22:08.359 --> 0:22:11.720 in and cooling and stuff for a while now, and 0:22:11.840 --> 0:22:14.760 speaking of much, probably too amazing. It's seen off my 0:22:14.840 --> 0:22:17.920 ec rather though, I think I heard either either it 0:22:18.000 --> 0:22:20.200 was you, Andrew or maybe it was Robert talking about 0:22:20.280 --> 0:22:27.919 the ceramic kind of cooling idea. Yeah, I mean that's 0:22:27.960 --> 0:22:31.199 the thing. And like the part of the American Southwest, 0:22:31.280 --> 0:22:33.600 like New Mexico, there's a lot of like swamp coolers 0:22:33.640 --> 0:22:36.040 that are basically working, right, Yeah, so I'm cool, So 0:22:36.080 --> 0:22:39.159 I'm cool those It only works in certain climates, right, 0:22:39.200 --> 0:22:41.679 Like you wouldn't really, I don't know, because it's if 0:22:41.720 --> 0:22:45.239 it's too it's too humid, it's not gonna work. You're 0:22:45.280 --> 0:22:50.520 just gonna Yeah. I think there's kind of a broader 0:22:50.640 --> 0:22:54.840 thing there architecturally, which is that like we have a 0:22:55.040 --> 0:22:59.960 lot of sort of like like we we've we've lost 0:23:00.040 --> 0:23:02.560 still a lot of in the way we do architecture. 0:23:02.600 --> 0:23:07.119 We've lost a lot of the sort of like building 0:23:07.280 --> 0:23:09.040 we've we've lost a lot of sort of building techniques 0:23:09.040 --> 0:23:14.560 adapted to specific locations. Yeah, yeah, yeah, And like that's 0:23:14.600 --> 0:23:18.359 something that has to be reversed like immediately, because like 0:23:18.800 --> 0:23:21.280 our our current model of building houses, that of oil 0:23:21.880 --> 0:23:27.800 is going to get us all killed really what's what's 0:23:27.840 --> 0:23:31.200 the problem there? What's wrong? What's that? I mean and 0:23:31.320 --> 0:23:35.200 tough with that, right, not just vernacular architecture, but vernacular clothing. 0:23:36.160 --> 0:23:39.560 I mean it's I mean as again, so when lire 0:23:39.560 --> 0:23:41.440 in a tropical country, I see it for myself, Like 0:23:42.080 --> 0:23:47.280 working people going to work. We're in like full long 0:23:47.440 --> 0:23:51.920 sleeve dress shoots and long long dress pans and you know, 0:23:52.080 --> 0:23:58.159 like formal shoes and it's honestly up you know sometimes 0:23:58.240 --> 0:24:00.639 like they have the whole tie like you pull up 0:24:00.680 --> 0:24:05.400 and everything. It's not it's entirely based on like European 0:24:05.480 --> 0:24:10.720 standards of professionalism, and um, it needs to be abolished. 0:24:11.640 --> 0:24:15.680 Abolish dress codes all right, abolished like this whole idea 0:24:15.960 --> 0:24:19.320 that you know, we have to dress this particular way, um, 0:24:19.600 --> 0:24:24.760 despite you know, the temperature, because it's more professional or 0:24:24.800 --> 0:24:30.200 whatever for professionalism. Honestly, yeah, we we have we have 0:24:30.320 --> 0:24:32.959 podcasting or in the vanguard of this, but we need 0:24:33.520 --> 0:24:37.880 help to destroy professionalism once and for all. Yeah yeah, yeah, 0:24:38.400 --> 0:24:43.520 show up to work, can you be then suit? Um? 0:24:44.960 --> 0:24:48.400 But yeah, like vernacular buildings as well. You know obviously 0:24:49.880 --> 0:24:53.439 you had in in Africa, in different parts of Africa, 0:24:53.480 --> 0:24:58.520 you would have different structures that will particularly ticult. You know, 0:24:58.600 --> 0:25:01.159 if you're in a in a trap coal reinforest environment, 0:25:01.160 --> 0:25:03.600 you would have a billing a steeler to you know, 0:25:04.240 --> 0:25:09.159 keeping mosquitoes out and maintaining a certain temperature within and 0:25:10.160 --> 0:25:14.440 maintaining comfort as well within or you know, in cooler 0:25:14.520 --> 0:25:19.240 regions you would have um, certain construction that would keep 0:25:19.359 --> 0:25:28.800 heats within the building and prevent um excessive discomfort you know. Um. 0:25:29.880 --> 0:25:31.920 And they were also of course, like when it comes 0:25:31.960 --> 0:25:36.360 to like cooler areas, you will also expected to sort 0:25:36.400 --> 0:25:39.320 of keep yourself warm as well as you know, keep 0:25:39.400 --> 0:25:41.600 your building. Woman. In fact, it was more still keeping 0:25:41.600 --> 0:25:44.040 yourself personally warm, so keeping yourself lay it up even 0:25:44.080 --> 0:25:46.480 when you're indoors. And of course that's kind of lost 0:25:46.520 --> 0:25:49.000 today people are expected to just you know, turn on 0:25:49.080 --> 0:25:53.800 the heater and vibe for the months of winter. But 0:25:54.160 --> 0:25:58.040 it isn't sustainable. A lot of things we enjoy today unsustainable. 0:25:58.840 --> 0:26:02.040 Keeps coming back to that, it yeah, speaking of things 0:26:02.119 --> 0:26:05.280 that we enjoy that are not at all sustainable, how 0:26:05.280 --> 0:26:09.600 about cause get rid of cause? Please get rid of cause. 0:26:10.200 --> 0:26:13.119 I mean, cause are very convenient in terms of like 0:26:13.400 --> 0:26:18.119 if you want to get somewhere very specific, um, you know, 0:26:18.320 --> 0:26:20.440 if there's a place you want to go, I'm the 0:26:20.560 --> 0:26:24.000 one you need to know. I'm a car. I'm a car. 0:26:24.160 --> 0:26:28.359 I'm a car. You know kind of thing. But my 0:26:28.440 --> 0:26:34.359 little musical interview there, thank you for appreciating it. But ultimately, 0:26:36.800 --> 0:26:42.119 like they honestly aren't sustainable. They honestly on something that 0:26:42.240 --> 0:26:46.480 we can maintain in the nail even well potentially in 0:26:46.520 --> 0:26:49.959 the neighbors where the far future. I mean, people are 0:26:49.960 --> 0:26:53.520 already know the problems with gascars, really know my gascars 0:26:53.520 --> 0:26:56.000 are bad. But you know, things just just things are 0:26:56.080 --> 0:27:01.120 just sort of pivoted towards electric cars. And who electric cars, 0:27:01.160 --> 0:27:04.160 Let's get a bunch of electric cars. Who But electric 0:27:04.240 --> 0:27:09.480 cars aren't better. I mean, the materials they require, the 0:27:10.520 --> 0:27:16.080 energy they require, it's quite frankly not sustainable in the 0:27:16.160 --> 0:27:21.240 long run, and it just lengthens the amount of time 0:27:21.280 --> 0:27:25.760 that we spend dependence on cause for shorts and long 0:27:25.840 --> 0:27:29.320 distance travel. And especially how in the States we've built 0:27:29.359 --> 0:27:31.679 our cities around the idea of a car, which has 0:27:31.720 --> 0:27:35.720 expanded the urban terrain unnecessarily. And if you look at 0:27:35.720 --> 0:27:37.919 like all the space taken up like highways and overpasses, 0:27:38.000 --> 0:27:40.600 and how much of just like urban space has taken 0:27:40.720 --> 0:27:44.400 up but just been built around the idea of the car. 0:27:45.080 --> 0:27:47.040 It really kind of makes the whole idea of a 0:27:47.119 --> 0:27:51.119 city so much less useful. It's it's really it's really frustrating, 0:27:52.000 --> 0:27:53.800 and I think it's also working at the cars are 0:27:54.400 --> 0:27:58.720 so unbelievably dangerous. Yea, yeah, yeah, we're very much used 0:27:58.760 --> 0:28:01.919 to like having these like death machines driving around at 0:28:01.960 --> 0:28:05.120 all times, and that that makes for like a very 0:28:06.640 --> 0:28:12.520 um cool like series of metal band song names or whatever. 0:28:12.720 --> 0:28:18.359 But the death statistics on funny when it comes to cause. No, 0:28:18.680 --> 0:28:23.520 and like the average transport transportation time having cars has 0:28:23.600 --> 0:28:26.960 not actually decreased, Like the amount of time it takes 0:28:27.040 --> 0:28:28.960 to get from place to place based on like where 0:28:29.000 --> 0:28:31.359 you live in your city has not actually decreased because 0:28:31.400 --> 0:28:34.680 now everything has just spread further apart. So a hundred 0:28:34.760 --> 0:28:36.720 years ago would take you know, like a fifteen minute 0:28:36.720 --> 0:28:39.080 trek to get to like you know, the market or something, 0:28:39.400 --> 0:28:41.720 it can take often times longer, especially if you're driving 0:28:41.840 --> 0:28:44.440 in like rush hour traffic to get just just just 0:28:44.560 --> 0:28:47.200 like a couple of miles, where even in some cases 0:28:47.400 --> 0:28:50.880 a decent job gets you there faster. Um, just because 0:28:50.920 --> 0:28:54.000 of how we've just designed the cities all around these 0:28:54.320 --> 0:28:58.160 rolling metal death cages. Um. Yeah, it's not it's it's 0:28:58.200 --> 0:28:59.960 not great. It's one of the reasons I don't current 0:29:00.040 --> 0:29:03.280 they have a car. Yeah, and that's kind of that's 0:29:03.280 --> 0:29:04.920 something that's shocking to a lot of people when I 0:29:05.000 --> 0:29:07.760