WEBVTT - Two Women and a Pig with Hannah Gadsby 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:01.800 Okay, guys, here are my dates for the High and 0:00:01.840 --> 0:00:05.840 Mighty Tour. In August you can find me in Red Bank, 0:00:05.880 --> 0:00:09.920 New Jersey, Montclair, New Jersey, and Calgary that's Canada. And 0:00:10.000 --> 0:00:13.039 September I will be in Santa Barbara, San Diego, New 0:00:13.119 --> 0:00:22.440 York City, Philly, and New Haven, Connecticut. October is Atlanta, Baltimore, Saginaw, Michigan, Pittsburgh, Toronto, Boise, 0:00:22.560 --> 0:00:25.959 Idaho and Spokane. And then in November I'll be in 0:00:26.000 --> 0:00:29.280 San Francisco. I'm coming to Salt Lake City, Austin, Houston, 0:00:29.400 --> 0:00:32.760 Dallas Babies, I'll be there. And then in December I 0:00:32.760 --> 0:00:36.279 am closing out my tour in Denver and Vancouver. So 0:00:36.440 --> 0:00:39.320 get your tickets at Chelseahandler dot com for the High 0:00:39.400 --> 0:00:44.200 and Mighty Tour. Hi Catherine, Hi Chelsea. 0:00:44.240 --> 0:00:45.800 Are you on a boat? 0:00:46.159 --> 0:00:48.400 Where am I? I'm on the Amalfi Coast. 0:00:49.800 --> 0:00:53.120 Hell, Yes, I am off shore on the month. 0:00:53.240 --> 0:00:55.880 I've decided to work in oil? Where you are? I'm 0:00:55.920 --> 0:00:59.640 on an oiler. You're an oil rigger, yes, I'm an 0:00:59.680 --> 0:01:02.120 oil I felt like I had to get down to 0:01:02.200 --> 0:01:05.000 my roots, and that is oil rigging. You know how 0:01:05.040 --> 0:01:05.959 popular that's been. 0:01:06.319 --> 0:01:08.920 Down to your roots in and down into the sea. 0:01:09.000 --> 0:01:11.120 Yes, I just am happy that I'm not in America 0:01:11.200 --> 0:01:13.800 right now, and I'm enjoying my free time while I 0:01:13.840 --> 0:01:16.000 have it. I have the month of July off before 0:01:16.480 --> 0:01:20.160 I get back on tour. Everybody, I'll be back in August. 0:01:20.160 --> 0:01:23.880 And in the meantime, I am drinking and swimming and 0:01:24.080 --> 0:01:28.080 acting like the way God intended me to behave. 0:01:28.440 --> 0:01:30.600 And meanwhile, like the powers that be over here are 0:01:30.640 --> 0:01:31.600 dropping like flies. 0:01:31.920 --> 0:01:34.039 So I know, I can't believe. Though, When are they 0:01:34.040 --> 0:01:36.560 gonna admit that Mitch McConnell's dead? I mean, this is 0:01:36.640 --> 0:01:38.040 absolutely ridiculous. 0:01:38.319 --> 0:01:40.920 I know that photo that they posted is like clearly 0:01:41.000 --> 0:01:44.080 AI because the newspaper he was holding like the picture 0:01:44.200 --> 0:01:44.679 is wrong. 0:01:44.800 --> 0:01:46.200 I saw a thing about it online. 0:01:46.240 --> 0:01:48.400 It's yeah, But if the Democrats can't get it together 0:01:48.560 --> 0:01:51.080 to get them to prove that Mitch McConnell is dead 0:01:51.120 --> 0:01:54.280 before that special election kicks in, then they deserve that, 0:01:54.520 --> 0:01:57.240 you know what I mean, like, get it together, and 0:01:57.360 --> 0:02:00.040 you cannot. This is weekend at Bernie's. I mean, I 0:02:00.120 --> 0:02:03.200 honestly was laughing when I heard this. I'm like, this 0:02:03.240 --> 0:02:05.160 is seriously happening in our country. 0:02:05.280 --> 0:02:08.440 And you heard the thing about his assistant called to 0:02:08.520 --> 0:02:11.240 cancel his like country club reservation, and they're like, why 0:02:11.240 --> 0:02:13.160 do you need to cancel She's like, my boss is dead. 0:02:13.600 --> 0:02:14.640 That was like two weeks ago. 0:02:15.480 --> 0:02:17.840 Oh oh, no, I didn't hear that. That's even better. 0:02:17.880 --> 0:02:18.720 I mean, this is good. 0:02:19.080 --> 0:02:21.960 They're gonna make movies about this. It's so stupid. I mean, 0:02:22.000 --> 0:02:23.600 they're gonna make movies about a lot of this. 0:02:23.800 --> 0:02:25.960 It's fully Wagged the Dog totally. 0:02:26.360 --> 0:02:28.800 Yeah, that was a good movie. It's Wag the Dog 0:02:28.880 --> 0:02:31.320 beats Weekend at Bernie's. But Wag the Dog is good 0:02:31.360 --> 0:02:33.840 for anyone. If you're listening and you haven't seen that movie, 0:02:33.880 --> 0:02:35.400 it's worth seeing that movie. 0:02:35.680 --> 0:02:36.320 Absolutely. 0:02:37.120 --> 0:02:40.799 Oh and also we should mention, since we recorded this episode, 0:02:40.840 --> 0:02:43.320 poor Bonnie Tyler has passed away, which is a subject 0:02:43.320 --> 0:02:44.040 of conversation. 0:02:44.520 --> 0:02:47.360 Oh, yes, Bonnie Tyler died. Yes, this comes up in 0:02:47.360 --> 0:02:49.560 this conversation. They were gonna go on a cruise with 0:02:49.600 --> 0:02:51.960 Bonnie Tyler. Well you'll hear it. Listen to the episode. 0:02:52.000 --> 0:02:55.480 Yes, yes, we had a really good time talking to them. 0:02:56.000 --> 0:02:59.680 You know, our guests from their blockbuster comedy specials Now 0:03:00.040 --> 0:03:03.680 at Douglas and then Something Special and their new special 0:03:03.760 --> 0:03:08.680 Woof is on YouTube now, so please welcome Hannah Gatsby. Hi, 0:03:08.840 --> 0:03:13.240 Hannah Gadsby, Hi, welcome to America. 0:03:14.280 --> 0:03:16.640 Oh, thank you so much having me. 0:03:17.080 --> 0:03:19.400 Oh my god, I love you. I love you. 0:03:20.160 --> 0:03:21.000 I thank you. 0:03:21.200 --> 0:03:21.680 Yeah, I do. 0:03:21.800 --> 0:03:23.560 I think you're such a breath of fresh air. 0:03:23.840 --> 0:03:26.519 You should spend more time with me. I change. 0:03:26.600 --> 0:03:27.919 It's easy to love from Afar. 0:03:28.720 --> 0:03:31.000 Yeah, I like to keep the distance. 0:03:31.160 --> 0:03:33.520 Well, you are keeping the distance because you live in 0:03:33.639 --> 0:03:35.400 fucking Tasmania, which. 0:03:35.240 --> 0:03:36.560 Is oh no, no, no, no, no, no no. 0:03:37.000 --> 0:03:38.440 Oh you're from Tasmania. 0:03:38.480 --> 0:03:43.880 You mean, but I'm on the mainland these days. 0:03:44.160 --> 0:03:45.680 How did you get over to the mainland? 0:03:46.760 --> 0:03:51.240 Oh? Ships, ahoy, we've got a faery. 0:03:51.560 --> 0:03:52.760 I've been to Tasmania. 0:03:53.320 --> 0:03:54.320 Now tell me about that. 0:03:54.680 --> 0:03:57.520 I was doing, you know, some dates in Australia. So 0:03:58.160 --> 0:04:00.640 I thought my cousin and I thought, oh, we should 0:04:00.640 --> 0:04:03.600 go somewhere we've never been. And somebody said you should 0:04:03.600 --> 0:04:04.560 go to Tasmania. 0:04:04.960 --> 0:04:05.960 And he said that to you. 0:04:06.080 --> 0:04:09.400 In Australia, this guy, Johnny, his name is Johnny Cox. 0:04:09.440 --> 0:04:11.720 Actually I'd like to yeah, exactly, I'd like to shout 0:04:11.800 --> 0:04:14.600 him out. And he said, but before you go, you 0:04:14.720 --> 0:04:18.680 have to read Robert Hughes's book the Fatal Shore. 0:04:20.320 --> 0:04:22.680 That's intense homework. 0:04:23.000 --> 0:04:25.440 This is a book that is about eight hundred pages. 0:04:25.480 --> 0:04:29.360 Have you read it, Hannah, Yes, yes I did. Yeah. 0:04:30.160 --> 0:04:32.560 When I was studying out history, I didn't read at all, 0:04:32.720 --> 0:04:33.240 flick through. 0:04:34.960 --> 0:04:35.560 Well I did. 0:04:35.720 --> 0:04:37.600 I read all of it, and. 0:04:39.279 --> 0:04:41.680 Thank you, thank you. I love books. I love books. 0:04:41.720 --> 0:04:45.719 I read your book. I loved your book. I read 0:04:45.720 --> 0:04:48.719 that book and I was in Tasmania and it was 0:04:48.760 --> 0:04:51.720 such a disturbing book because it talks about the colonization 0:04:52.160 --> 0:04:54.960 which started in Tasmania for all of Australia and. 0:04:54.880 --> 0:04:56.920 All the people that they would are going to pull 0:04:56.960 --> 0:04:57.200 you up. 0:04:58.240 --> 0:05:00.960 Maybe I didn't entertain that, let's have a chat this okay. 0:05:01.040 --> 0:05:05.000 So Tasmania was the second penal colony, its great word 0:05:06.160 --> 0:05:09.040 after Sydney. Because they landed in Sydney set up the 0:05:09.560 --> 0:05:13.080 jail situation. They thought, it's quite nice here. This is 0:05:13.120 --> 0:05:18.840 hardly punishment, and then like, let's find somewhere terrible. And 0:05:18.880 --> 0:05:22.000 that's when they said, well Tasmania, Like it's so it 0:05:22.080 --> 0:05:25.400 was the second one. And then what were you going 0:05:25.440 --> 0:05:27.440 to say about Tasmania. I take a while to warm up. 0:05:27.480 --> 0:05:32.159 It's no problem, afilin Tasmania was the more severe penal 0:05:32.240 --> 0:05:35.000 quality where they took the really bad guys and where 0:05:35.040 --> 0:05:37.880 they had And funnily enough, when you go to Sydney, 0:05:38.360 --> 0:05:40.200 like if you go on a boat ride in Sydney 0:05:40.279 --> 0:05:43.360 and you're coming back in, you're like, can you imagine 0:05:43.360 --> 0:05:48.039 bringing a bunch of prisoners and criminals here? Like and 0:05:48.080 --> 0:05:51.000 then why you're like, this is paradise, Like why would 0:05:51.000 --> 0:05:55.240 you be against that? So but obviously it wasn't paradise 0:05:55.320 --> 0:05:59.159 because the book The Brutality a Fatal Shore is that 0:05:59.240 --> 0:06:02.919 book gave me for four days in a row in 0:06:03.000 --> 0:06:06.480 Tasmania reading about the whipping and the lashing, and they 0:06:06.480 --> 0:06:09.000 would hang these guys by the post and then the 0:06:09.040 --> 0:06:11.680 guys were eating people. They would trying to escape and 0:06:11.720 --> 0:06:12.520 they're in the rest here. 0:06:12.640 --> 0:06:16.000 That's that's Alexander Piace you're talking about there. So when 0:06:16.040 --> 0:06:18.400 they've gone, oh, Tasmania is terrible, and then I'm like, 0:06:18.440 --> 0:06:20.920 well it's coming together. Let's find another island. So they 0:06:20.920 --> 0:06:23.560 found another island on the east coast, the furthest away 0:06:23.600 --> 0:06:26.080 you can get from Hobart, which is the only town 0:06:26.160 --> 0:06:29.440 in town. And Alexander Peace and a bunch of his 0:06:29.520 --> 0:06:33.080 buddies on this island broke out and then like, we've 0:06:33.080 --> 0:06:34.800 got to make our way to Hobat and it is 0:06:34.880 --> 0:06:38.080 and it is still really dense wilderness, Like there are 0:06:38.080 --> 0:06:40.839 parts of the eastern coast of Tasmania that no one's 0:06:40.880 --> 0:06:43.599 been no west west coast that's where I'm from, that 0:06:44.160 --> 0:06:48.000 no one's really been through, you know. So it's dense 0:06:48.200 --> 0:06:51.719 and ancient forest, right. And they made their way to 0:06:51.800 --> 0:06:56.719 Hobut eventually, but only Alexander Piace arrived because he had it. 0:06:57.560 --> 0:07:02.000 He just eighties other escapeees on away, like one by one, 0:07:02.839 --> 0:07:05.400 and and then they said, well you should go back 0:07:05.400 --> 0:07:07.520 to this island. And then he escaped again and some 0:07:07.800 --> 0:07:10.320 people went with him, and at that time he just 0:07:10.440 --> 0:07:12.840 they got to the beach of the mainland of Tasmania 0:07:12.880 --> 0:07:16.120 and he just ate them there. He's like, I don't 0:07:16.120 --> 0:07:18.320 need to walk this far. I just like eating people now. 0:07:18.600 --> 0:07:20.800 No, yeah, yeah, that's what I happened. 0:07:20.840 --> 0:07:23.040 I'm told we were elated. Whenever we're get in trouble, 0:07:23.080 --> 0:07:25.480 you're at Alexander Pears. 0:07:26.120 --> 0:07:28.400 That's good, that's a good recall for his name. 0:07:28.600 --> 0:07:28.760 Well. 0:07:28.800 --> 0:07:32.560 Another thing, though, is in Sydney and in Tasmania, all 0:07:32.600 --> 0:07:35.760 the streets or lots of the streets are named after 0:07:35.840 --> 0:07:39.440 these prison wardens. So you're walking down the street all 0:07:39.520 --> 0:07:41.120 the names from the book, I'm like, why does this 0:07:41.200 --> 0:07:43.200 sound familiar? And then I'm like, oh, this was named 0:07:43.200 --> 0:07:45.720 after one of the prison wardens. Did you ever notice that? 0:07:46.760 --> 0:07:51.680 Of course, of course, we're very proud of our terrible history. 0:07:50.560 --> 0:07:55.760 I'm a direct descendant of a lady off the first fleet. 0:07:55.840 --> 0:07:57.880 It wasn't quite the first fleet, it was the second fleet. 0:07:57.920 --> 0:08:00.080 I think they talked about it, and that's all the 0:08:00.080 --> 0:08:04.520 the floating brothel because they realized everyone was dying, and 0:08:04.560 --> 0:08:07.880 then they thought, you know, we should just send a 0:08:07.880 --> 0:08:10.680 lot of women down there. And so it was just 0:08:10.960 --> 0:08:15.440 a ship full of women. And my descendants stole a 0:08:15.480 --> 0:08:19.880 Bible classic and that was the only ship that arrived 0:08:19.920 --> 0:08:24.920 with more people on it than left because they just 0:08:25.080 --> 0:08:27.320 had babies on the way. They had a birthing tent 0:08:27.680 --> 0:08:30.720 on the deck because usually when you'd stop in all 0:08:30.760 --> 0:08:32.880 the ports on the way, if there were women on 0:08:32.920 --> 0:08:35.640 the ship, they'd be rowed to other ships to have 0:08:35.679 --> 0:08:39.960 a bit of a plow and and. 0:08:42.000 --> 0:08:44.480 No, just want to put that out there, but kind 0:08:44.480 --> 0:08:45.079 of funny and. 0:08:45.040 --> 0:08:46.319 That there's just the language. 0:08:46.720 --> 0:08:49.760 Sorry, And then so but there's a lady on board 0:08:49.760 --> 0:08:53.719 who took all these young women under her wing and 0:08:54.120 --> 0:08:56.840 established the floating brothel. And it was just like, no, 0:08:56.960 --> 0:08:59.600 these guys can come here and I'll protect all these women. 0:08:59.720 --> 0:09:01.880 So and then they had a berthing tent on board, 0:09:02.360 --> 0:09:04.480 and I think they had three or four berths because 0:09:04.480 --> 0:09:08.240 it took takes so long to get there. My descendant. 0:09:08.360 --> 0:09:13.280 They landed in Sydney and everyone's like women. And then 0:09:13.120 --> 0:09:16.440 they so they sent her off to Norfolk Island, which 0:09:16.480 --> 0:09:20.520 is just off the way off the east coast of Australia, 0:09:20.600 --> 0:09:24.760 and that they colonized that because they thought Norfolk pines 0:09:24.760 --> 0:09:27.360 are great for building boats and they're not. So then 0:09:27.360 --> 0:09:30.240 they're just stuck there on this wild island. There. They 0:09:30.280 --> 0:09:34.479 lived in threes. Polygamy was established there and every household 0:09:34.600 --> 0:09:39.840 got two women and a pig, and so it's pretty wild. 0:09:39.880 --> 0:09:42.640 And then she went to Tasmania. I don't come from 0:09:42.720 --> 0:09:43.320 good stock. 0:09:43.679 --> 0:09:45.760 Wow, two women and a pig. 0:09:46.760 --> 0:09:50.920 Yeah. She eventually got, you know, after she served a sentence. 0:09:51.840 --> 0:09:55.720 She got a huge plot of land outside Sandy Bay 0:09:55.880 --> 0:09:58.600 in Sandy Bay in Hobart, which is the posh suburb 0:09:58.720 --> 0:10:01.800 like you know, but she sold it for a barrel 0:10:01.840 --> 0:10:09.520 of rum obviously. Mm hmmm, yeah, so that's yeah, the 0:10:09.520 --> 0:10:12.040 Fatal Show is Yeah, I quite I quite like that's 0:10:12.040 --> 0:10:14.160 an uplifting book for me. It's full of hope. 0:10:14.640 --> 0:10:17.000 Well, I'm just thinking, like, two women in a pig 0:10:17.080 --> 0:10:19.320 is better than being on your own with the pig 0:10:19.360 --> 0:10:20.520 and a guy, you know what I mean. 0:10:20.640 --> 0:10:23.120 A pig sounds great if a man is not there, like. 0:10:23.120 --> 0:10:25.559 But even if a man is there, I would want 0:10:25.600 --> 0:10:28.160 another woman and if I absolutely you know what I mean, 0:10:28.440 --> 0:10:31.000 better than to be alone with the pig and the man. 0:10:31.559 --> 0:10:34.080 Yeah, not many of those marriages lasted. 0:10:37.880 --> 0:10:40.600 Congratulations on your marriage. How long have you been married now? 0:10:40.679 --> 0:10:44.160 Thank you? Hello? Five years? Five years? 0:10:45.520 --> 0:10:49.560 What words of wisdom? What kernels of wisdom have you 0:10:49.640 --> 0:10:51.880 picked up from being married for five years? 0:10:52.400 --> 0:10:54.840 Look, I think five years is not long enough to 0:10:54.960 --> 0:10:57.599 just like let me do you know, like that's I 0:10:57.640 --> 0:10:59.200 haven't even out to the seven year itch. 0:10:59.400 --> 0:11:02.640 Let me let me rephrasee it. Then, let me rephrase it. 0:11:02.920 --> 0:11:06.359 How has marriage impacted the way that you see yourself 0:11:06.720 --> 0:11:08.600 as an individual on this earth? 0:11:08.840 --> 0:11:15.240 Oh? Well, cohabitating that someone has made me understand just 0:11:15.360 --> 0:11:20.240 how badly I operate through life. So it's having a 0:11:20.280 --> 0:11:26.960 constant witness. That's both alarming and comforting, you know, just 0:11:27.600 --> 0:11:31.880 you know, being seen by someone all the time. I 0:11:32.000 --> 0:11:36.240 quite enjoy it because I have the capacity to disappear. Yeah, 0:11:36.280 --> 0:11:40.800 I've really enjoyed it. Nice. And that's not very funny. 0:11:41.280 --> 0:11:43.040 No, and you don't have to be funny. I mean 0:11:43.080 --> 0:11:44.200 it's a serious question. 0:11:44.679 --> 0:11:54.600 Well, I've made a rod for my back, haven't I. 0:11:54.600 --> 0:11:57.959 I watched your new special. It's called Wolf. Everybody listening. 0:11:58.080 --> 0:12:02.600 It's now out on YouTube. It's Hannah Gatsby's newest special 0:12:03.520 --> 0:12:07.720 and it's very non traditional. I liked it. I liked 0:12:08.240 --> 0:12:10.720 the opening particularly. I want to bring that up because 0:12:10.720 --> 0:12:14.120 I have a big history. We're probably of the same age. 0:12:14.240 --> 0:12:17.840 I have a history of Cabbage Patch children in my 0:12:17.920 --> 0:12:21.559 life and I as soon as you started talking about that, 0:12:21.679 --> 0:12:26.440 it brought me back to the time where parents were 0:12:26.600 --> 0:12:29.240 going to Toys r Us at six o'clock in the morning, 0:12:29.720 --> 0:12:33.640 standing in line for Toys r Us to open to 0:12:33.720 --> 0:12:36.839 get the right cabbage Patch kid for their daughter, which 0:12:36.880 --> 0:12:39.520 was me, and they never got the right one. I 0:12:39.559 --> 0:12:43.360 got two premies before I got a real one, and 0:12:43.440 --> 0:12:46.320 one of them had to say, yeah, they had got me. 0:12:46.440 --> 0:12:49.720 Like the Rudders, the runts of the litter the rudders. 0:12:56.559 --> 0:12:59.400 Exactly, so I got two of them. Then I got 0:12:59.400 --> 0:13:02.000 a fake cabinet because my dad was like, fuck this shit, 0:13:02.080 --> 0:13:04.240 I'm not standing in line at Toys r us at 0:13:04.280 --> 0:13:06.600 six o'clock in the morning, and I was like why not. 0:13:07.120 --> 0:13:09.600 I'm like everyone, I need to bring a cabbage patch 0:13:09.640 --> 0:13:12.800 to school to be legitimate, Like I have to legitimize myself. 0:13:13.240 --> 0:13:14.679 Did you have a cabbage patch? 0:13:15.360 --> 0:13:19.200 There was nothing a cabbage patch doll could do to 0:13:19.360 --> 0:13:22.880 legitimize me, Like I think you have to be edging 0:13:22.920 --> 0:13:27.760 toward legitimacy. But no, I got a I think called 0:13:27.800 --> 0:13:31.080 an ice cream doll, like it was a fake one. 0:13:31.120 --> 0:13:34.320 You know, when cabbage patch dolls took off, other people like, well, 0:13:34.400 --> 0:13:37.800 let's people prefer ice cream. You think the ice cream 0:13:37.840 --> 0:13:40.200 doll would have taken off before a cabbage patch doll, 0:13:40.280 --> 0:13:46.120 you know, like cabbage right ice cream? Correct. I didn't 0:13:46.200 --> 0:13:50.000 like dolls, so I wasn't and they were not. They 0:13:50.040 --> 0:13:54.080 were ugly. They were objectively ugly, and they always used 0:13:54.120 --> 0:13:57.960 to confuse me why everyone was excited about them. And 0:13:58.000 --> 0:14:01.559 then but you trace it. It keeps happening like la 0:14:01.559 --> 0:14:07.560 boo boos, and every generation has this and like I 0:14:07.600 --> 0:14:10.960 think the trick is dolls of frightening. 0:14:13.000 --> 0:14:15.560 But there is actually an answer to your question because 0:14:15.600 --> 0:14:17.599 you're talking the special about like where did all the 0:14:17.600 --> 0:14:21.080 cabbage patch dolls go? And there was I think I 0:14:21.080 --> 0:14:23.400 think it was a my strange addiction that they covered 0:14:23.400 --> 0:14:26.480 this on. But there is this couple in like Ohio 0:14:27.000 --> 0:14:31.120 and they have like fifteen thousand cabbage patch dolls and 0:14:31.120 --> 0:14:33.440 they have names for all of them, and they have 0:14:33.480 --> 0:14:36.280 parties with their friends, and they have like a special 0:14:36.360 --> 0:14:39.200 building that's you know, heat temperature regulated. 0:14:39.280 --> 0:14:42.960 It's very imagine they have friends. I think there's a 0:14:43.000 --> 0:14:44.760 list that there's a litter that's a kind. 0:14:44.560 --> 0:14:47.320 Of obsession that truly include a lot. 0:14:47.600 --> 0:14:49.560 What did you play with when you were growing up 0:14:49.840 --> 0:14:53.280 if you didn't like cabbage patch kids? 0:14:52.600 --> 0:14:59.520 I liked to play with my with my animals. I 0:14:59.520 --> 0:15:03.360 had a dog. I just smucked about. Really we lived. 0:15:03.800 --> 0:15:07.720 We were sort of quite feral. There's a lot of swimming. 0:15:08.160 --> 0:15:09.000 I played golf. 0:15:09.920 --> 0:15:10.840 Do you still play gold? 0:15:12.360 --> 0:15:15.320 I picked it up again. I used to play. I 0:15:15.360 --> 0:15:18.280 was a state champion. Wow, the state was Tasmania. So 0:15:18.280 --> 0:15:21.600 we can just back off the impressiveness there, excuse you? 0:15:22.160 --> 0:15:25.320 And so that that was what I did on weekends. 0:15:25.320 --> 0:15:27.960 I would play. It was a little country golf club, 0:15:28.080 --> 0:15:30.200 so basically girls just hanging out with the elderly. 0:15:31.040 --> 0:15:34.120 Yeah. Well, I mean I know you you suffer from 0:15:34.240 --> 0:15:37.920 social anxiety and that you've talked about panic attacks and such. 0:15:38.040 --> 0:15:39.440 Was that happening when you were a kid too? 0:15:40.400 --> 0:15:42.240 No, because I was just hanging out with old people. 0:15:42.680 --> 0:15:48.280 Take the stress right off. Tea and biscuits. They don't care. 0:15:48.320 --> 0:15:51.200 They're just happy someone's talking to them. I just walked 0:15:51.200 --> 0:15:54.520 the walk the straight. I knew who had who had 0:15:54.520 --> 0:15:57.640 bad mobility and biscuits they can get away from me. 0:15:58.480 --> 0:16:00.960 So tell us when did that stuff? Like when did 0:16:00.960 --> 0:16:04.280 you start identifying that something or that you felt some 0:16:04.440 --> 0:16:07.840 way about your like disposition or that you had panic 0:16:07.840 --> 0:16:10.680 attacks or that you had anxiety, Like at what age 0:16:10.720 --> 0:16:13.720 did that become relevant to you or that you had 0:16:13.760 --> 0:16:15.600 a name for it. Yeah. 0:16:15.960 --> 0:16:18.160 Not. While I was a child, you didn't have a 0:16:18.240 --> 0:16:22.080 name for it. I just got tired. I'm sort of avoidant, 0:16:22.120 --> 0:16:24.280 and I get burnt out and tired, So I just 0:16:24.320 --> 0:16:27.400 become a potato as as opposed to a jittery bug. 0:16:27.920 --> 0:16:31.960 But as I've gotten older and like, I just can't 0:16:32.200 --> 0:16:36.080 impress upon people enough. Just how isolated my childhood was. 0:16:36.200 --> 0:16:40.280 Like it's Tasmania. As you know, Chelsea is very isolated. 0:16:40.280 --> 0:16:41.880 It's like it's a hop, skip and a jump to 0:16:42.000 --> 0:16:44.800 get there, and it is. But in the eighties it 0:16:44.880 --> 0:16:48.440 was even more isolated. You know, there just wasn't we 0:16:48.480 --> 0:16:51.320 had two or three channels on television. Leaving the state 0:16:51.400 --> 0:16:56.800 was prohibitively expensive, you know, and it's incredibly inbred. It's 0:16:56.840 --> 0:17:01.280 like it's a bit like Iceland actually, you know. Yeah, 0:17:01.440 --> 0:17:04.159 Iceland and Tasmania get studied a lot because of the 0:17:04.200 --> 0:17:07.800 purity of our genetic pool. Wow. They say purity, but 0:17:07.920 --> 0:17:08.880 I say it's you. 0:17:08.840 --> 0:17:12.399 Know, you don't meet a lot of Icelandic people that 0:17:12.440 --> 0:17:14.520 have left Iceland, you know what I mean. They're not 0:17:14.560 --> 0:17:16.800 about in the world, Like you don't run into people 0:17:16.840 --> 0:17:19.600 from Iceland. And you're the first person I've met, well, 0:17:19.640 --> 0:17:22.640 the first person that I know of that's from Tasmania. 0:17:23.160 --> 0:17:25.760 There's a couple of people like I can't remember who 0:17:25.760 --> 0:17:27.360 they are, so we probably shouldn't talk about. 0:17:27.359 --> 0:17:29.240 You also can't have that kind of competition. 0:17:29.800 --> 0:17:33.280 No, Although I'm not a very competitive person, I'd rather 0:17:33.359 --> 0:17:37.400 not a very big part of being Australian is understanding 0:17:37.440 --> 0:17:39.080 the power of being second best. 0:17:40.920 --> 0:17:43.800 Well, right now, right now, you're doing a lot better 0:17:43.840 --> 0:17:45.760 than we are, so I wouldn't. 0:17:45.880 --> 0:17:48.359 I know. I think that's a lot to do with 0:17:48.440 --> 0:17:52.240 our attitude because you guys are so hopeful, you're always striving, 0:17:52.320 --> 0:17:56.760 and sometimes being still is better. I think it's really interesting. 0:17:57.000 --> 0:18:00.280 I think we're an interesting experiment because of you know, 0:18:00.320 --> 0:18:06.479 we're both settled, we're both American Australia both exist because 0:18:06.560 --> 0:18:09.600 Britain couldn't get this shit together and they still can't 0:18:09.600 --> 0:18:11.920 get their shit together, but they don't think about that. 0:18:12.600 --> 0:18:15.560 Britain should never be responsible for drawing maps. 0:18:16.080 --> 0:18:18.480 Yeah, you know what, You raise a very good point. 0:18:18.720 --> 0:18:21.320 Like they've just shown time and time again that every 0:18:21.359 --> 0:18:25.080 time they draw up a new border, bad stuff happens 0:18:25.359 --> 0:18:29.800 for centuries. But also, but you guys were settled because you're, like, 0:18:30.240 --> 0:18:33.720 you know, hopeful and thought that Britain wasn't pure enough, 0:18:33.920 --> 0:18:37.879 and we were settled because you know, they needed somewhere 0:18:37.880 --> 0:18:41.359 to send the dregs. So we understood who we are 0:18:41.400 --> 0:18:43.919 from the beginning. Your country is built on this, like 0:18:43.960 --> 0:18:46.040 we're better than that, and we're just like we're not 0:18:46.119 --> 0:18:48.080 even good enough. For that dirty Island. 0:18:51.359 --> 0:18:53.840 Dirty do you know? When I went to Tasmania for 0:18:53.920 --> 0:18:57.159 that first like three months before the trip. Once we 0:18:57.200 --> 0:18:59.359 booked the trip, I was convinced I was going to 0:18:59.520 --> 0:19:01.359 Africa because of towns. 0:19:01.119 --> 0:19:04.720 In here, oh mad the amount of times, the amount 0:19:04.720 --> 0:19:09.240 of times people think I'm from Africa. 0:19:10.800 --> 0:19:13.040 Well, if the shoe fits. 0:19:13.119 --> 0:19:18.840 It doesn't. Yeah, I was doing it. I had one 0:19:18.840 --> 0:19:22.720 of those lovely general meetings back in the day. This 0:19:22.840 --> 0:19:26.440 is when I was too naive to have meetings in Hollywood. 0:19:27.640 --> 0:19:30.159 My success is really funny because it's just I just 0:19:30.200 --> 0:19:33.280 got launched into a place that really only very ambitious 0:19:33.280 --> 0:19:37.560 people belong and it was so you know, i'd given up. 0:19:37.600 --> 0:19:41.159 I was too old, not too old, but like I 0:19:41.520 --> 0:19:44.680 was forty, and you just get enough information to go, well, 0:19:44.720 --> 0:19:47.080 I'm never going to be a superstar. I'll just hang 0:19:47.119 --> 0:19:50.000 out here and do my thing. And then all of 0:19:50.040 --> 0:19:52.480 a sudden I was in a place where I really 0:19:52.560 --> 0:19:56.119 needed to have different muscles anyway. So I was taking 0:19:56.119 --> 0:19:59.080 these meetings and not making the most of them. But 0:19:59.160 --> 0:20:03.960 that funny ultimately, and I think it was Warner Brothers 0:20:04.200 --> 0:20:08.960 and they were all, you know, you know, when there's 0:20:09.000 --> 0:20:11.760 a feeding frenzy on, you know, and they're all very 0:20:11.800 --> 0:20:16.320 excited this is past. And they made me a cup 0:20:16.320 --> 0:20:18.160 of tea. They were very keen to make me tea, 0:20:18.320 --> 0:20:21.040 or they asked me if I wanted tea, and so 0:20:21.600 --> 0:20:24.080 I said yes because it's tea. Then at the forgetting 0:20:24.119 --> 0:20:28.080 I was in America, no offense, and they're like, oh no, 0:20:29.119 --> 0:20:30.960 Like they offered me take didn't know how to make 0:20:31.000 --> 0:20:34.639 it and made like the hottest water in a paper 0:20:34.680 --> 0:20:37.880 cup and I couldn't hold it. And it's like, thank 0:20:37.880 --> 0:20:39.199 you for the tea. And I'm like, I'm gonna have 0:20:39.200 --> 0:20:41.360 to drink this because they're like, is it good. I'm like, 0:20:41.400 --> 0:20:44.520 it's too hot. And then they went around the table 0:20:45.040 --> 0:20:47.760 telling us each who they were and why I should 0:20:47.800 --> 0:20:50.160 be interested, and of course they bought in the whole 0:20:50.160 --> 0:20:53.879 department of reality television. And you know that who's the 0:20:53.880 --> 0:20:56.159 guy with the cowboy hat? He was there, the one 0:20:56.160 --> 0:20:57.119 who's ruined the world. 0:20:57.280 --> 0:21:01.360 Oh oh, the guy that did The Apprentice. Yeah, yeah, 0:21:01.680 --> 0:21:03.080 I don't know his name, but I know who you're 0:21:03.119 --> 0:21:03.680 talking about. 0:21:04.000 --> 0:21:07.520 Yeah, giddy up. He was there and someone else in 0:21:07.600 --> 0:21:09.600 his team was talking and they're like, oh, we've done 0:21:09.640 --> 0:21:12.480 the Bachelor. The Bachelor you've seen The Bachelor. The Bachelor's amazing. 0:21:12.520 --> 0:21:15.600 It's very big in Australia. I'm not sure about Tanzania, 0:21:17.440 --> 0:21:21.679 and I'm like, I was, you know, I'm like, I 0:21:21.680 --> 0:21:23.480