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Speaker 1: Okay, guys, here are my dates for the High and

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Speaker 1: Mighty Tour. In August you can find me in Red Bank,

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Speaker 1: New Jersey, Montclair, New Jersey, and Calgary that's Canada. And

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Speaker 1: September I will be in Santa Barbara, San Diego, New

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Speaker 1: York City, Philly, and New Haven, Connecticut. October is Atlanta, Baltimore, Saginaw, Michigan, Pittsburgh, Toronto, Boise,

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Speaker 1: Idaho and Spokane. And then in November I'll be in

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Speaker 1: San Francisco. I'm coming to Salt Lake City, Austin, Houston,

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Speaker 1: Dallas Babies, I'll be there. And then in December I

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Speaker 1: am closing out my tour in Denver and Vancouver. So

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Speaker 1: get your tickets at Chelseahandler dot com for the High

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Speaker 1: and Mighty Tour. Hi Catherine, Hi Chelsea.

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Speaker 2: Are you on a boat?

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Speaker 1: Where am I? I'm on the Amalfi Coast.

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Speaker 3: Hell, Yes, I am off shore on the month.

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Speaker 1: I've decided to work in oil? Where you are? I'm

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Speaker 1: on an oiler. You're an oil rigger, yes, I'm an

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Speaker 1: oil I felt like I had to get down to

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Speaker 1: my roots, and that is oil rigging. You know how

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Speaker 1: popular that's been.

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Speaker 4: Down to your roots in and down into the sea.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I just am happy that I'm not in America

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Speaker 1: right now, and I'm enjoying my free time while I

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Speaker 1: have it. I have the month of July off before

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Speaker 1: I get back on tour. Everybody, I'll be back in August.

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Speaker 1: And in the meantime, I am drinking and swimming and

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Speaker 1: acting like the way God intended me to behave.

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Speaker 4: And meanwhile, like the powers that be over here are

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Speaker 4: dropping like flies.

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Speaker 1: So I know, I can't believe. Though, When are they

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Speaker 1: gonna admit that Mitch McConnell's dead? I mean, this is

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Speaker 1: absolutely ridiculous.

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Speaker 4: I know that photo that they posted is like clearly

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Speaker 4: AI because the newspaper he was holding like the picture

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Speaker 4: is wrong.

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Speaker 2: I saw a thing about it online.

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Speaker 1: It's yeah, But if the Democrats can't get it together

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Speaker 1: to get them to prove that Mitch McConnell is dead

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Speaker 1: before that special election kicks in, then they deserve that,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like, get it together, and

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Speaker 1: you cannot. This is weekend at Bernie's. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: honestly was laughing when I heard this. I'm like, this

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Speaker 1: is seriously happening in our country.

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Speaker 4: And you heard the thing about his assistant called to

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Speaker 4: cancel his like country club reservation, and they're like, why

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Speaker 4: do you need to cancel She's like, my boss is dead.

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Speaker 4: That was like two weeks ago.

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Speaker 1: Oh oh, no, I didn't hear that. That's even better.

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Speaker 2: I mean, this is good.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna make movies about this. It's so stupid. I mean,

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Speaker 1: they're gonna make movies about a lot of this.

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Speaker 3: It's fully Wagged the Dog totally.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a good movie. It's Wag the Dog

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Speaker 1: beats Weekend at Bernie's. But Wag the Dog is good

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Speaker 1: for anyone. If you're listening and you haven't seen that movie,

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Speaker 1: it's worth seeing that movie.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely.

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Speaker 4: Oh and also we should mention, since we recorded this episode,

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Speaker 4: poor Bonnie Tyler has passed away, which is a subject

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Speaker 1: Oh, yes, Bonnie Tyler died. Yes, this comes up in

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Speaker 1: this conversation. They were gonna go on a cruise with

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Speaker 1: Bonnie Tyler. Well you'll hear it. Listen to the episode.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, we had a really good time talking to them.

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Speaker 1: You know, our guests from their blockbuster comedy specials Now

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Speaker 1: at Douglas and then Something Special and their new special

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Speaker 1: Woof is on YouTube now, so please welcome Hannah Gatsby. Hi,

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Speaker 1: Hannah Gadsby, Hi, welcome to America.

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Speaker 2: Oh, thank you so much having me.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, I love you. I love you.

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Speaker 2: I thank you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I do.

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Speaker 3: I think you're such a breath of fresh air.

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Speaker 2: You should spend more time with me. I change.

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Speaker 3: It's easy to love from Afar.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I like to keep the distance.

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Speaker 1: Well, you are keeping the distance because you live in

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Speaker 1: fucking Tasmania, which.

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Speaker 2: Is oh no, no, no, no, no, no no.

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Speaker 1: Oh you're from Tasmania.

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Speaker 2: Oh? Ships, ahoy, we've got a faery.

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Speaker 1: I've been to Tasmania.

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Speaker 2: Now tell me about that.

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Speaker 1: I was doing, you know, some dates in Australia. So

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Speaker 2: And he said that to you.

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Speaker 1: In Australia, this guy, Johnny, his name is Johnny Cox.

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Speaker 1: Actually I'd like to yeah, exactly, I'd like to shout

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Speaker 1: him out. And he said, but before you go, you

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Speaker 1: have to read Robert Hughes's book the Fatal Shore.

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Speaker 2: That's intense homework.

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Speaker 1: This is a book that is about eight hundred pages.

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Speaker 2: Have you read it, Hannah, Yes, yes I did. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: When I was studying out history, I didn't read at all,

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Speaker 1: Well I did.

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Speaker 3: I read all of it, and.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you. I love books. I love books.

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Speaker 1: I read your book. I loved your book. I read

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Speaker 2: All the people that they would are going to pull

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Speaker 1: Maybe I didn't entertain that, let's have a chat this okay.

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Speaker 2: So Tasmania was the second penal colony, its great word

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Speaker 1: It's no problem, afilin Tasmania was the more severe penal

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Speaker 1: then why you're like, this is paradise, Like why would

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Speaker 1: because the book The Brutality a Fatal Shore is that

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Speaker 2: That's that's Alexander Piace you're talking about there. So when

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Speaker 1: No, yeah, yeah, that's what I happened.

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Speaker 2: I'm told we were elated. Whenever we're get in trouble,

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Speaker 1: That's good, that's a good recall for his name.

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Speaker 1: Another thing, though, is in Sydney and in Tasmania, all

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Speaker 2: Of course, of course, we're very proud of our terrible history.

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Speaker 2: I'm a direct descendant of a lady off the first fleet.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't quite the first fleet, it was the second fleet.

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Speaker 1: That there's just the language.

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Speaker 2: So and then they had a berthing tent on board,

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Speaker 2: They landed in Sydney and everyone's like women. And then

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Speaker 2: And then she went to Tasmania. I don't come from

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Speaker 3: Wow, two women and a pig.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. She eventually got, you know, after she served a sentence.

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Speaker 2: She got a huge plot of land outside Sandy Bay

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Speaker 2: Fatal Show is Yeah, I quite I quite like that's

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Speaker 2: an uplifting book for me. It's full of hope.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm just thinking, like, two women in a pig

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Speaker 1: is better than being on your own with the pig

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Speaker 1: and a guy, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 5: A pig sounds great if a man is not there, like.

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Speaker 1: But even if a man is there, I would want

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Speaker 1: another woman and if I absolutely you know what I mean,

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Speaker 1: better than to be alone with the pig and the man.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, not many of those marriages lasted.

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Speaker 1: Congratulations on your marriage. How long have you been married now?

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Speaker 2: Thank you? Hello? Five years? Five years?

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Speaker 1: What words of wisdom? What kernels of wisdom have you

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Speaker 2: Look, I think five years is not long enough to

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Speaker 2: Not. While I was a child, you didn't have a

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Speaker 1: Well, right now, right now, you're doing a lot better

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Speaker 2: I know. I think that's a lot to do with

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Speaker 1: Dirty do you know? When I went to Tasmania for

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Speaker 2: Yeah, giddy up. He was there and someone else in

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Speaker 2: Yeah, when you saw me. Yeah, that was a hell

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Speaker 1: It was? It was. That's a good party, actually really,

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Speaker 2: It feels like any party with comedians is like a

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Speaker 1: I like a daytime event. I like a daytime party,

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Speaker 2: I just don't like parties. Yeah, right, And then what

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Speaker 2: the logistics.

435
00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:05,280
Speaker 1: So I heard what you said earlier about America, and

436
00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:07,280
Speaker 1: I like what you say. I think I agree with you.

437
00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:10,200
Speaker 1: We think we're better than everybody. What are your other

438
00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:14,640
Speaker 1: impressions of America, Like your first impressions when you came

439
00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:16,000
Speaker 1: over here for the first time.

440
00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:19,480
Speaker 2: I mean, Americans are very friendly and I enjoy that.

441
00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:24,440
Speaker 2: Sometimes your voices can pitch a bit loud, but that's

442
00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:28,639
Speaker 2: the accent. The way that you speak. You really your

443
00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:30,360
Speaker 2: tongue gets out of the way and there's a lot

444
00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:33,080
Speaker 2: of noise comes out. I've learned the American accent, but

445
00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:35,320
Speaker 2: I will not speak because it is too loud coming

446
00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:39,359
Speaker 2: from within. I started easily, so the only way I

447
00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:42,400
Speaker 2: can speak American is with if I do like a Batman,

448
00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:47,680
Speaker 2: So I can speak American, but I won't go louder

449
00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:52,359
Speaker 2: than that. I like Americans. I married one. Yeah. I

450
00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:55,000
Speaker 2: think it's always an interesting thing when you have an

451
00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:58,440
Speaker 2: idea of a culture and then when you have to mingle,

452
00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:01,640
Speaker 2: it breaks apart, like the idea of a national identity

453
00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:05,639
Speaker 2: always breaks apart because individuals ruin everything. This is true.

454
00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 1: This is true. How did you and your How did

455
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:09,000
Speaker 1: you and your wife meet?

456
00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:12,080
Speaker 2: Jenny was my producer of Nannette when I took it

457
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:16,199
Speaker 2: to New York, so she was looking after me. This

458
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:19,199
Speaker 2: was before it went on to Netflix, and she was

459
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:21,760
Speaker 2: so good at her job, like she knew what I

460
00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:23,440
Speaker 2: wanted before I wanted it. She's like, oh, do you

461
00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:27,160
Speaker 2: want a cup of tea? And I'm like, no, oh, oh,

462
00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:30,560
Speaker 2: actually I think I do. You know. That kept happening.

463
00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:33,520
Speaker 2: So when I was gearing up to do my first

464
00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:37,720
Speaker 2: world tour and we were spoken, she was at a

465
00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:41,120
Speaker 2: loose end and we I brought her on to sort

466
00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:45,320
Speaker 2: of help me tour. We had a strong working relationship

467
00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:47,800
Speaker 2: before I wore her down.

468
00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:49,240
Speaker 1: And how did you make your move?

469
00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:54,399
Speaker 2: I didn't. We apparently we looked back on it, and apparently,

470
00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,399
Speaker 2: you know, we we were dating for a year before

471
00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:59,800
Speaker 2: we understood that we were dating. We just did everything

472
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:04,960
Speaker 2: you go that was romantic. Didn't clock that. And Jenny

473
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:08,560
Speaker 2: was being very professional. She's very professional, very good job.

474
00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:11,320
Speaker 2: And I was just hyper aware of the you know,

475
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:19,359
Speaker 2: Weinstein factor, which was my employee. So you know, we

476
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:23,439
Speaker 2: how long was it, Ginny? Nine months?

477
00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:26,639
Speaker 1: We're nine months you were and you were working together

478
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,679
Speaker 1: for nine months before you became a couple. Yeah, and

479
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:31,320
Speaker 1: we know you're not good at a party. We know

480
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:33,639
Speaker 1: you don't like parties. We know you don't want to.

481
00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 2: Oh, Chelsea, I have to tell you something. I'm doing

482
00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:43,600
Speaker 2: a gay cruise in August through the Mediterranean. Three thousand people.

483
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:52,440
Speaker 2: I accepted because it's through the Mediterranean and sailing through

484
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:56,159
Speaker 2: the path of totality for the Total Eclipse, and the

485
00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:59,440
Speaker 2: headline act was going to be Bonnie Tyler, but she's

486
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 2: now in an induced coma and not going so now

487
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:07,879
Speaker 2: I'm just on a boat, and I thought, you know

488
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:11,400
Speaker 2: who might know how to handle that is Chelsea Handler.

489
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:12,720
Speaker 2: Have you done a cruise?

490
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:16,639
Speaker 1: You know what, Hannah? Even I know not to do

491
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:17,520
Speaker 1: a fucking cruise.

492
00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:19,240
Speaker 2: Fucking hell? What have I done?

493
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,159
Speaker 3: I mean, I really think you should get out of that.

494
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:29,119
Speaker 2: Really something I do a lot. I'm like, I don't

495
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 2: like these things. I don't like these things, and then

496
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 2: for some reason sometimes I just inexplicably move toward a thing.

497
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:35,240
Speaker 2: I do that?

498
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:36,719
Speaker 1: Should I do that too?

499
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,960
Speaker 2: So? Yeah, so that's what this is. So I guess

500
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:42,840
Speaker 2: I'm anyway. So you've not done a cruise.

501
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 1: I haven't. I have an aversion to cruises, and that

502
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:46,919
Speaker 1: what's your version?

503
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:47,960
Speaker 2: It's probably the same as so.

504
00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:51,439
Speaker 1: Many people, the amount of people stuck on one pile

505
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:56,159
Speaker 1: of essential basically garbage, because that's what you're doing.

506
00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:58,440
Speaker 3: You're floating on garbage.

507
00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:01,679
Speaker 1: And it's too many people, and it's you run. I

508
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,200
Speaker 1: don't want I don't want to be trapped. It's everything

509
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:08,440
Speaker 1: that you already think, is what I'm saying out loud.

510
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 2: What have I done?

511
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 1: How long? How long is the cruise?

512
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:16,200
Speaker 2: I did it for Bonnie? Nine nine nights? Nine?

513
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 3: Okay, I thought we're going to say nine months.

514
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 2: I'm like, what, Yes, I'm doing a reverse convict.

515
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:25,720
Speaker 1: I was like, how long is the sun totality?

516
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 2: I thought that was like a night.

517
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,439
Speaker 1: Okay, so nine days in the Mediterranean. I mean you

518
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,119
Speaker 1: should just bring your journal and keep track of everything.

519
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:34,640
Speaker 1: I'm assuming Jenny's going with.

520
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:37,840
Speaker 2: You, Yes, Jenny. I think we'll have a lot of fun.

521
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:39,639
Speaker 1: Is there going to be gambling on the cruise?

522
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 2: Yes, they all have a casino. I think it's a

523
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 2: gamble to go on from.

524
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:48,719
Speaker 1: That is funny. That is funny that you signed up

525
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,200
Speaker 1: for Bonnie Tyler and now she's in a coma. I mean,

526
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:53,120
Speaker 1: I mean, how glorious.

527
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 2: Would that be, Little Bonnie Tyler, little Welsh witch, just

528
00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:01,119
Speaker 2: belting out total eclips of the heart doing an eclipse

529
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 2: on a boat.

530
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 1: Well maybe she'll come too in the Timeez not, when

531
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:09,879
Speaker 1: do you set sail.

532
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,679
Speaker 2: In August? It's done. I'm stuck on a boat without that.

533
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:16,919
Speaker 3: They're going to have to get some musical act.

534
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:19,359
Speaker 2: And everyone's going to be so excited. And I can't

535
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,359
Speaker 2: rain on their parade. They've saved up for it. This

536
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 2: is their yea as much as it's my nightmare, and

537
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:31,200
Speaker 2: then I have to do two hours of comedy during

538
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 2: the Moroccan themed night party, and but back to back,

539
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 2: and I'm just like, oh, yeah, I'm sure I'll be funny.

540
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 1: Like an early show and a lad show.

541
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 2: Yeah.

542
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 1: Oh, I mean take pictures, is all I have to say.

543
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:52,240
Speaker 3: And take some videos as well.

544
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:54,960
Speaker 2: Okay what I might do, And this is what I

545
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 2: tend to do because I don't live on the surface

546
00:28:56,760 --> 00:29:00,480
Speaker 2: of reality. I like to you know, the constant posting

547
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 2: of what you're doing now is not not anything I've

548
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 2: ever been able. It seems to be too soon, right,

549
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 2: So I'll keep a daily diary and then post it later.

550
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's fine, that's better. It's better that way anyway.

551
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 1: I like when I see people post about their trips

552
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 1: after they've had some thought put into it, rather than

553
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 1: it means. I agree with that. So you're way ahead

554
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 1: of the game in that department.

555
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 2: Only they're just like so they're sending all the things,

556
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 2: and they're just like, as long as you cover up

557
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 2: your balls, your penis, and your vagina at breakfast, anything goes.

558
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh, that was that in writing?

559
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 2: It was in writing?

560
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 1: Wow, I would use that as a that would be

561
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 1: a big red flag.

562
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 2: Well, they send it after you sign the contract, so.

563
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 4: Right, it's like a nine day party, which it is

564
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 4: going to be a party.

565
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 1: But I do do you drink or do you.

566
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 2: I probably will?

567
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I need to.

568
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 3: You don't strike me as someone who drinks or does drugs.

569
00:29:56,800 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 2: Oh, come on, I do. I'm a dark horse.

570
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 1: When Your Special Neat came out, it was humongous. It

571
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 1: had a huge cultural impact and huge reaction from people.

572
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 1: I want to know how that impacted you and what

573
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:19,960
Speaker 1: you thought about.

574
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 2: That it was massive. I don't think I kind of

575
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 2: appreciated because you're in the middle of it and it's

576
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 2: quite intense, and it was just such a I think

577
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 2: what I struggled the most with as it's you know,

578
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:36,720
Speaker 2: I've moved away from it, is that it like, it

579
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:39,200
Speaker 2: was such a personal show, and up until the moment

580
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 2: it went on Netflix, it was mine, and you know,

581
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 2: the story was who I was telling in the room.

582
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 2: And I'm a live performer. I've not done much screen.

583
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 2: I've done a little bit, but not with my work,

584
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:52,920
Speaker 2: you know, so my audience was built on people I'd

585
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 2: spoken to who were sharing the same room as me,

586
00:30:55,520 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 2: and this was my first adventure into not that you know,

587
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 2: so by understanding of who my audience really disintegrated. And

588
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 2: then when you start to write new shows and stuff,

589
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 2: you're like, who are you talking to anymore? And I've

590
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 2: always struggled with that, like who do you know who

591
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 2: your audience is? Chelsea? And does that like do you

592
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 2: sometimes go, well, I'm changing a little bit as a human.

593
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 2: How do you bring your audience along with that without

594
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 2: sort of alienating them? Because people really do like your

595
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 2: old stuff better than your new stuff, and like it's

596
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 2: always this constant conversation and because you don't, I don't,

597
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 2: you know, I'm at a loss, like I feel at Sea.

598
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 2: I think the biggest feeling for me at the moment

599
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 2: is I quite afraid because I'm not a benign figure now,

600
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:46,480
Speaker 2: so anytime I speak up about something, it's a you know,

601
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 2: it can be a problem. I'm a lightning rod, like

602
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 2: it or not. And and you know, it's not like

603
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 2: me too worked. You know, who would have thought hashtag

604
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 2: was not actually equal to actual structures of power. And

605
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 2: so we're in the middle of this disastrous and angry backlash.

606
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 2: And I you know, as soon as I poked my

607
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,960
Speaker 2: head up I'm a target and so that that feels

608
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 2: quite frightening. So on the one hand, I've trauma bonded

609
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 2: on a grand scale, so I could start a cult.

610
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:26,479
Speaker 2: But on the other hand, it's like, you know, there

611
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:29,360
Speaker 2: are angry people at people are angry at me. Still.

612
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, first of a, if you're going to start

613
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 1: a cult, you're going to have to go back to

614
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 1: Tasmania to do it, because that's the proper place for that,

615
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 1: the proper backdrop. But what about the opposite part of that,

616
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 1: all the love and adulation you got, didn't you notice

617
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 1: that as well? I totally hear what you're saying, and

618
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 1: I think people are really hateful and bigoted and everything. Yeah,

619
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 1: everything we're experiencing in the United States specifically and on

620
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 1: a global level, but specific to me because that's my experience.

621
00:32:56,440 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 1: Our experience is everything feels like a like the overturning

622
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 1: of Roe v Wades feels like a repercussion of me too,

623
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 1: and feels like a repercussion of times up, like men

624
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 1: are like, oh, you think you're gonna tell on us?

625
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 2: And then no. I think what we're discovering is there's

626
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 2: a reactivity where culture is saying we would rather not

627
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 2: feel bad, and we would rather not feel bad about

628
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 2: this and continue to do this like it's just like, oh,

629
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 2: we've just discovered they have no shame mm hm. And

630
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 2: that's you know, that's what you have to do the

631
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 2: other side of it, you know. I mean, when you've

632
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 2: got sort of complex trauma going on, hearing positive affectation

633
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 2: is incredibly difficult. My team drip feeds me praise, you know,

634
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 2: we've got a nice message from a fan, you know,

635
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 2: because sometimes I can't take it on and then I

636
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 2: resent the fan for writing. I'm like, why are you

637
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 2: talking to me? But over time I've and because the

638
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 2: heats disappeared a little bit, you know, and I'm left

639
00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 2: with my fans, and I have a really lovely fan base.

640
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 2: So I'm learning how to exist in that. It's nice,

641
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:09,319
Speaker 2: you know, and I do like my fans, and that's

642
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 2: where that's where our work is now. You know, I

643
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:14,799
Speaker 2: sort of hit that crossroad where it's just like you

644
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 2: need to have wide public you know, I guess success

645
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 2: and then you can have a career, Whereas now you

646
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:27,239
Speaker 2: so that if you can find your audience, you can

647
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 2: have a career. And so I have an audience and

648
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 2: that feels really privileged. You know. I feel like younger

649
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:39,719
Speaker 2: comics are really struggling to find, you know, because industries

650
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 2: in such flux. The world we know has changed, so

651
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:45,759
Speaker 2: it's not like we can give actual advice to new

652
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 2: comics because the landscape is so different in the way

653
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:50,880
Speaker 2: they're finding their audience is so different. So it just

654
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:53,839
Speaker 2: feels like a really unstable landscape. But I feel very

655
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 2: grateful for my fans.

656
00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 3: And you want awards.

657
00:34:58,080 --> 00:34:59,919
Speaker 1: I mean, you want a Peabody Award. You won the Emmy,

658
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:03,719
Speaker 1: didn't you for your so you must have that must

659
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 1: have felt good.

660
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:07,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I felt frightened for about the Emmy because I

661
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 2: did beat out Beyonce and speaking of dedicated fan bases,

662
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 2: so my first first words were sorry. But that's probably

663
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 2: the Australian part of me. It was so big for me.

664
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 2: What other people understood it to be and what I

665
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 2: understood it to be has taken a long time to

666
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:32,439
Speaker 2: sort of synthesize. But I feel like I'm there now.

667
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:36,440
Speaker 2: But it's it's over, is there?

668
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 1: Is that one of the reasons what what you're describing

669
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:43,279
Speaker 1: why you didn't want to film this standup special in

670
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:44,919
Speaker 1: a more in the traditional way.

671
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 2: Well, when I mean, as soon as I started doing

672
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 2: that tool Wolf, it was clear I was in a

673
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 2: bad way, Like I was in a very bad mental

674
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:58,839
Speaker 2: health situation. And you know, you could just see other

675
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,720
Speaker 2: people who you know, in the middle of a working

676
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,320
Speaker 2: phase and under stress and not in good mental health,

677
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:07,800
Speaker 2: they say and do things that are very destructive, not necessary,

678
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,879
Speaker 2: and and I'm like, you know, because you can't when

679
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,720
Speaker 2: you're you know, sitting on an anxiety that a tour

680
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:17,879
Speaker 2: means you can't tamp that down. You du like, right,

681
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:20,879
Speaker 2: I'm on tour now, I'm constantly traveling, I'm putting out work,

682
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 2: I'm self promoting, I'm in the public eye. You don't

683
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 2: get to tamp that down. So if you're starting up here,

684
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 2: I'm like, this is a dangerous space to be. And

685
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 2: in a volatile time, you know, like it's things were

686
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 2: really heating up, particularly for my people, because you know,

687
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 2: that was the time when you know, the scapegoating of

688
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 2: trans and queer people really you know, started to drop.

689
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:47,279
Speaker 2: And you know, because people forget because the Internet makes

690
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:49,359
Speaker 2: it feel like we have a voice, but we don't

691
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 2: actually have protections. But the voice bit upset people. So

692
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 2: we became the scapegoat, so you know it's fear. I

693
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:59,359
Speaker 2: was afraid, and also you know it's a physiological thing

694
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 2: for me. I don't like change, and tour is nothing

695
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:07,880
Speaker 2: but change. So I understood that, and I'm like, I

696
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:10,759
Speaker 2: don't want because I do overthink it a bit because

697
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 2: of the nature of the natte. I understand that my

698
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 2: fan base hang on to my work because, like I said,

699
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 2: I've trauma bonded, like it means stuff to people that

700
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 2: it's that has nothing to do with me, But I

701
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 2: am the figurehead of that, and I take that really seriously,

702
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 2: like I don't want to abuse that, you know, because

703
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 2: you know when I did Nanetta, it was like I

704
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:35,759
Speaker 2: didn't I didn't give a trigger warning, you know, like

705
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:38,919
Speaker 2: it was a the angry as people of course were

706
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 2: men and particularly male comedians, and then it filters down

707
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 2: from there. But there was also I knew that risk

708
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 2: and I was happy to take that. But the other risk,

709
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:54,400
Speaker 2: which was always an unknown for me, is like it's

710
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:58,280
Speaker 2: people have experienced similar trauma. This could either be cathartic

711
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:00,439
Speaker 2: or really damaging. Like I took a little of care

712
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:03,280
Speaker 2: in the show writing a show that it was something

713
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 2: that could hold as a piece of work, like I

714
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:09,319
Speaker 2: wasn't you know, this wasn't you know me sort of

715
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 2: trauma bombing, like I'd work this out, like I thought

716
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 2: about this, this was you know, you know, I channeled

717
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 2: a funneled a rage instead of just sprayed a rage.

718
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:21,359
Speaker 1: Yes, well said, that's exactly right.

719
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:24,400
Speaker 2: But having said that, it's like all my decisions, I'm like,

720
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 2: I feel a duty of care to that audience not

721
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 2: to muck about, and I was up here with this anxiety,

722
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:34,800
Speaker 2: so and you know, I look back on this decision,

723
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:38,440
Speaker 2: I'm going, that's a decision only an anxious mind would make.

724
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 2: But I really and I think it worked out in

725
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 2: a way. I'm just like, how did I channel this

726
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:51,439
Speaker 2: instability and direct that to Netflix in my career because

727
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:55,279
Speaker 2: it's a victimless crime, you know, like if I make

728
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 2: these odd decisions, and like, you know everyone and this stage,

729
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 2: Netflix was like everything's funny, and so I ran in

730
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:06,880
Speaker 2: an experiment like are you funny? Though? Like can you

731
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:10,239
Speaker 2: be the joke? And I think I've told too many

732
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 2: hostile jokes about Netflix to really truly be welcome on

733
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:17,840
Speaker 2: the platform. But it's a two way street, Like I

734
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 2: don't Netflix fucking sucks, like they made transphobia profitable and

735
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:28,720
Speaker 2: they formed very deliberately a feeding frenzy on a tiny,

736
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 2: tiny minority, and we have no recourse, you know. And

737
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 2: I remember at this party that we went to in

738
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 2: Netflix and this you know, Ted stood up once everyone

739
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,840
Speaker 2: worked out where to look, and he's like, we have

740
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 2: made the world less to busif because we've opened up

741
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 2: free speech. You know, I mean, speech just needs to

742
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:53,879
Speaker 2: be free because it's important and it's powerful and it

743
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 2: can you know, make people feel things, and you know,

744
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 2: when you're adjuit people, then you can maneuver for people.

745
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 2: You know, it's flooding the zone. And they paid no care,

746
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 2: absolutely no care. And because I am that person, you know,

747
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:14,400
Speaker 2: whenever it's like if you can't say you know, the

748
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 2: you know, the transphobic debate within comedy, I was the

749
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:21,760
Speaker 2: figurehead and they pulled me into that, you know, Ted

750
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 2: put me up as that, like we have Dave Chappelle

751
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 2: and we have Hannah Gatsby, but I don't get paid

752
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:32,240
Speaker 2: nearly enough for that, right, you know, like I don't

753
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:35,879
Speaker 2: have those protections. I don't, you know, like and it

754
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 2: was just a very vile time. So I channeled that

755
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:41,759
Speaker 2: and I only went to the Netflix as a joke thing,

756
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:45,760
Speaker 2: so that you know, I used it as they paid

757
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 2: for my airline tickets and my top surgery and I

758
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:53,719
Speaker 2: haven't spoken about my top surgery publicly, but it's just like,

759
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 2: you know what, that's a good use of their money.

760
00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 2: And it just, you know, it feels so hostile because

761
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 2: for a lot of those guys, it's just sport. They're

762
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 2: just like what can I say? Who can I upset?

763
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 2: How close to the edge can I skate? I'm like,

764
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 2: good on you, But there are people who are trying

765
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 2: to live there and are actually you know, we're losing

766
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 2: our rights, you know, and it's people hostile and I

767
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 2: think Netflix was really cavalier with that. And it's not

768
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:28,839
Speaker 2: like I expect anything to change. People hate us now.

769
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:31,800
Speaker 2: It's been established, like people are sick of us talking,

770
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 2: and the tide is too angry and activated about you know,

771
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 2: everything else. There's no point trying to change that now,

772
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 2: Like it's too big and too angry, and we are

773
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 2: a scapegoat and people are distressed, and it's a moment

774
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 2: in history where people like you know, people are scared

775
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:58,400
Speaker 2: of losing equality of life that they currently exist in

776
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 2: and that's across the whole spectrum, from billionaires to people

777
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:05,279
Speaker 2: living in abject poverty. But it's not the responsibility of

778
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 2: people who are on the struggle bus to sort of

779
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 2: rain in their terror. It's the people who have genuine

780
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 2: privilege that have a responsibility and they're not taking it.

781
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 1: So did you decide not to go back to Netflix

782
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:21,799
Speaker 1: for this?

783
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 2: Is that? It was that A, I don't think we're speaking. Oh,

784
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:27,320
Speaker 2: I think I don't think I'm on the radar anymore.

785
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 1: Well, it's like, I mean, so you're on the radar

786
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 1: for sure because you were at the party.

787
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:34,719
Speaker 2: I mean no, I don't think I'm on Like, I'm

788
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 2: sure I'm on the radiar, but I'm not like I

789
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:37,400
Speaker 2: don't think did.

790
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 1: You go to them and try to sell them the

791
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:39,800
Speaker 1: special they're special?

792
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 2: No, that's what this point the point of it was

793
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:45,799
Speaker 2: like it's like I deliberately made something they because they

794
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:47,879
Speaker 2: had the first ride of refusal, and so I made

795
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 2: something they Yeah, it doesn't exist. It's just an animation

796
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 2: and an audio only and I knew, like I wasn't

797
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:57,279
Speaker 2: like I'm going to stick it to them, Like I

798
00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:59,400
Speaker 2: know it's a losing battle. But when you're like I

799
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 2: was in dist so I thought, this is these are

800
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:05,320
Speaker 2: victimist crimes, Like it doesn't matter. I can't do anything

801
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 2: to Netflix, They're too big, it's over, it's done whatever.

802
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 2: But a little fight felt good in that sort of distress.

803
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 1: I was feeling, Yeah, you must feel a big I mean,

804
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:19,879
Speaker 1: the way you're talking about it makes me really kind

805
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 1: of understand, have a better understanding of the responsibility that

806
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 1: you must feel and or the own and the onus

807
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:31,719
Speaker 1: that you must feel for like being a figurehead and

808
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 1: what that means to people, because I hear what you're saying,

809
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:41,279
Speaker 1: and yeah, it's pretty it's pretty hard to watch men

810
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 1: get away with such bad comedy and picking on the

811
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:51,760
Speaker 1: people that need the like need the allies the most,

812
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 1: like picking on that. It's like, if you're such a

813
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:57,400
Speaker 1: good comedian, why aren't you going over there and thinking

814
00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:00,800
Speaker 1: of something more clever and picking on the higher levels

815
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 1: of like fruit that are that are so easy to grab.

816
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 2: Well, it doesn't do good for your career. Like that's

817
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 2: what I did. I went for the high fruit, and

818
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 2: you know they don't love it. You know, it's it's

819
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:22,400
Speaker 2: a complex time to be alive. Though this isn't personal

820
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:25,799
Speaker 2: it's everybody is distressed.

821
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, how do you handle your stress?

822
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:29,799
Speaker 1: Now? What do you do?

823
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:35,319
Speaker 2: I've clocked off. I don't listen to the news. I

824
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 2: don't I'm not on social media. I am early onset quaint.

825
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:41,919
Speaker 2: I'm going on a cruise, but I don't think that'll

826
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 2: help me connect.

827
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 1: Now that cruise is going to set you back.

828
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 2: I think I'm running experiment of like, what is it

829
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:53,880
Speaker 2: like to be a human not involved in social media?

830
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 1: I'm sure it's fruitful. It's much more fruitful than.

831
00:44:57,160 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 2: Being Yeah, but it's also interesting because you I'm losing

832
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:04,880
Speaker 2: you're losing touch. So as a comedian, it's like, you know,

833
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:06,760
Speaker 2: what do you talk about? Then? How do you connect

834
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 2: to people? But it is very calm. I highly recommend it.

835
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 1: How long have you been off social media?

836
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:14,399
Speaker 3: Yeah?

837
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 2: About four years? Four or five years?

838
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 1: Wow.

839
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's too dangerous for me.

840
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I hear you. I hear you. I

841
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 1: think it's probably dangerous for most people. But people are

842
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:25,800
Speaker 1: so addicted that they can't.

843
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 2: It's really this is you know, I'm not an economist,

844
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:34,319
Speaker 2: and I don't understand you know, broad economic principles, but

845
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 2: it's a logical extension of capitalism. You know, it's like

846
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:43,400
Speaker 2: making money now is culture. So you know, for a

847
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 2: long time it's culture happened elsewhere, but now making money

848
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 2: is our culture. It's not cultural capital, it's just capital capital.

849
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 2: And that's what social media is. It's you know, turning

850
00:45:56,719 --> 00:46:00,319
Speaker 2: art into data points. And now everyone's trying to create

851
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 2: all the time, all the time. If you don't say something,

852
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:05,239
Speaker 2: you don't exist. If you don't put yourself on the screen,

853
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 2: don't exist. And you know, people are talking about it

854
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 2: over here, and then it's constantly moving and I I,

855
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 2: as an organism, cannot cope, you know. But I grew

856
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:22,440
Speaker 2: up in such isolation. And I see people my age

857
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:26,240
Speaker 2: losing their minds because they're on social media too much.

858
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 2: They melted.

859
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 1: My sisters and I were on a girl's weekend. We

860
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:35,760
Speaker 1: went to Sedona, Arizona, and my sister Simone was saying,

861
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 1: we were talking about the state of affairs in our country,

862
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 1: and she was like, we have no culture left. America

863
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:46,280
Speaker 1: has no culture, and that's the capital.

864
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:46,920
Speaker 2: Yeah.

865
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's like the price you pay for capitalism,

866
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:54,279
Speaker 1: which sounds in theory like a great idea, but put

867
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:57,839
Speaker 1: to practice, ends up being something completely opposite. Of what

868
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 1: the intention is and then the average that comes with

869
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 1: the capitalism, and then this whole experience with technology and

870
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 1: what's happened. It's like there's no soul, Like the soul

871
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 1: of our country is gone and has diminished so greatly

872
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:16,319
Speaker 1: that I don't know, like I do you feel like

873
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 1: the soul is gone in Australia?

874
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 3: Do you feel the same way.

875
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 2: It's gonna happen? You know, there's a slide beginning, but

876
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:28,239
Speaker 2: we're a bit delayed. It's not as bad here, but

877
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:30,920
Speaker 2: it's just there's no escaping it. I don't think, you know,

878
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 2: because the we're going to continue having more and more

879
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 2: natural disasters and no infrastructure to help people, you know,

880
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 2: recover from these things. You know, natural to the existence

881
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:47,759
Speaker 2: of being human is ebb and flow. And the way

882
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:50,720
Speaker 2: we've built things is like we always strive and building, building,

883
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:53,840
Speaker 2: and we've just created a pile of fucking jenger and

884
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:57,759
Speaker 2: we just got to watch it. You know, were you?

885
00:47:57,960 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 2: But you?

886
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 1: I mean, at least your country was smart enough to

887
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 1: prohibit social media for sixteen year olds and.

888
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:07,840
Speaker 2: Under all, Australian kids are going to reach eighteen like

889
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 2: their homeschooled you know, it's going to have these like

890
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:16,439
Speaker 2: you know, like what does that mean for and they're

891
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 2: on social media? Well, no, it's not like it's been successful.

892
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 1: It hasn't.

893
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 2: No, their kids know how to get around it.

894
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:28,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, but parents aren't parents held responsible if their kids

895
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:30,480
Speaker 1: are on social media. There, I know they did that.

896
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:31,239
Speaker 1: There they didn't do.

897
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:32,239
Speaker 2: I don't know.

898
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:36,279
Speaker 1: I mean, that's one step. That's a major step that

899
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:37,400
Speaker 1: needed to be taken.

900
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:40,920
Speaker 2: It is. Yeah, I mean, I think the regulation of

901
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:45,840
Speaker 2: social media and Silicon Valley, like, I mean, I started

902
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:48,279
Speaker 2: to think, what's going to happen once the circle jerk

903
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:52,239
Speaker 2: that is Silicon Valley collapses? You know, like it's going

904
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:56,680
Speaker 2: to imploded. It's something, you know, it's just a it's wild.

905
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:59,319
Speaker 2: It's a wild time to be alive. It is so

906
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:04,719
Speaker 2: many unstable men with huge swarts of power, and it's

907
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 2: just like that's we know this doesn't work.

908
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 1: Okay, let me ask you a question. If it's in

909
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:20,480
Speaker 1: order to avoid this cruise that you're performing on, you

910
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:23,040
Speaker 1: had to go on a boat with Jeff Bezos and

911
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:27,680
Speaker 1: Lauren Sanchez, that's option one. I'm gonna give you a selection. Okay.

912
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 1: One option is Jeff Bezos and Lauren Sanchez. You have

913
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 1: to go away with just the two of them on

914
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:36,320
Speaker 1: the boat and have every meal with them for a week,

915
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:38,359
Speaker 1: for a week, for the nine days. Sorry, you're going

916
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 1: for nine days, So nine days you can either go

917
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:43,320
Speaker 1: with them. You can go with Elon Musk and whoever

918
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 1: he's dating, or you can go with Mark Zuckerberg and

919
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 1: his wife for the nine days.

920
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:49,960
Speaker 3: You have to choose one of those couples.

921
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 2: Okay, well not Elon Musk.

922
00:49:55,719 --> 00:50:01,239
Speaker 1: Sorry I threw that one. I'm sure they are the

923
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 1: same way about the same thing, so.

924
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 2: They're a trifecta. I think I could cope with all

925
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:14,360
Speaker 2: of them because I would make them jump overboard. I could,

926
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:18,200
Speaker 2: you know, if it's just them, I could work them.

927
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:20,920
Speaker 2: I would win on one on one with any of

928
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:27,440
Speaker 2: those guys like I can't. I will outrage. I know

929
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:29,840
Speaker 2: how to annoy people like that. I've met Jeff. I

930
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:30,600
Speaker 2: annoyed him.

931
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 1: Did you When did you meet him?

932
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 2: I went to his silly little camp, oh Amazon for Amazon? Yeah? Yeah,

933
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:41,480
Speaker 2: how was that? It was weird? It was a cult.

934
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 2: And I told him, why don't they stop trying to

935
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:47,959
Speaker 2: start a cult? You're not charming enough.

936
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:53,279
Speaker 1: Ah, I know he really isn't he did?

937
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:56,279
Speaker 2: He did all the things. They invite people, but they

938
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:58,480
Speaker 2: don't tell them why, and sometimes they invite you back,

939
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:03,120
Speaker 2: and sometimes they don't. It's what I want. And he

940
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 2: was trying, you know, He's like, oh, let's get all

941
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 2: this culture here. I'm like, what the culture you're actively

942
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 2: trying to destroy? Cool story, buddy.

943
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:13,080
Speaker 1: Yeah. I once went to one of those think tanks

944
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:17,040
Speaker 1: weekends for Google years ago, and I just remember I

945
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:19,319
Speaker 1: met some interesting people that I'm still in touch with,

946
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:24,879
Speaker 1: but overall it felt like you were, yeah, a part

947
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 1: of a group that wasn't going to age. Well.

948
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:33,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, think tank's are funny concept.

949
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:36,879
Speaker 1: It is a funny concept. As soon as if once

950
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 1: you all get together, you're going to come up with

951
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:40,960
Speaker 1: all these great ideas and solutions.

952
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 2: Because we know committees work will Yeah, aren't you happy

953
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:55,000
Speaker 2: you don't have a child? You know, Klinder, But who's

954
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:57,040
Speaker 2: going to look after me when I'm old? You know?

955
00:51:57,080 --> 00:51:59,440
Speaker 2: The genis why you have children? No, that is not

956
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:04,680
Speaker 2: why you have children. Look part of me, Yes, absolutely,

957
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:09,680
Speaker 2: because it's just so much to think about. And then

958
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:11,120
Speaker 2: as like, as soon as you have a child, you've

959
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:13,439
Speaker 2: got to start booking them in for their education. It's

960
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:18,320
Speaker 2: so much, you know, so much decision making. And then

961
00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:23,240
Speaker 2: but I think, you know, the idea of children remained

962
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 2: sensible because it's like it keeps you connected. I think

963
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:33,799
Speaker 2: I'm going to recede. I'm I'm just full witch. I'm

964
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:35,560
Speaker 2: great guarding Greg grey Garden.

965
00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:37,920
Speaker 1: Why don't you go out and about at all? I mean,

966
00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 1: you're not going to receive by just because you're off

967
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:41,560
Speaker 1: of social media. I don't buy that.

968
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:45,359
Speaker 2: No, I'm actively trying to go out and about. I

969
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:48,439
Speaker 2: really became a lock in. I got the anxiety was bad,

970
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:50,799
Speaker 2: and then I became a habit. I didn't recover from

971
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:54,439
Speaker 2: the pandemic. I just wasn't leaving the house. So I've

972
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:58,400
Speaker 2: started taking myself on little jaunts and just rebuilding my

973
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:01,440
Speaker 2: confidence because you know, when the net happened, like I

974
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 2: couldn't go out. It was really a lot, you know,

975
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 2: and I wasn't used to being perceived. You know. I

976
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:09,880
Speaker 2: was someone who could go out and observe and that's

977
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:14,279
Speaker 2: how I lived, you know, skulking. So it sort of

978
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:16,120
Speaker 2: like took me a long time. Now. I took myself

979
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:19,520
Speaker 2: to the football as I went to a major sporting

980
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:22,879
Speaker 2: event the other day, being in a crowd was kind

981
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:25,720
Speaker 2: of exciting a lot of men. I think it's important

982
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:28,120
Speaker 2: to keep an eye on the patriarchy. So I'm following

983
00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:30,360
Speaker 2: Australian rules football and Formula one.

984
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:32,799
Speaker 1: I saw that you were into Formula one and I

985
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 1: was wondering what that was about. I've been to a

986
00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:37,600
Speaker 1: Formula one race. I went last summer in.

987
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:40,680
Speaker 2: Nahtich One, Miami, or I was in Europe.

988
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:43,600
Speaker 1: I was in Europe. Oh, I must have been in Barcelona.

989
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 1: Outside of Barcelona. Yeh yes, yes, yeah classic.

990
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:51,240
Speaker 2: How did you go? Too noisy? Right? Too much?

991
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:53,680
Speaker 3: I loved it. The catering was incredible.

992
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:56,120
Speaker 2: I mean, what did you have? What's now everything?

993
00:53:56,200 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 1: They had beautiful catering stations upstairs in that VIP section

994
00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 1: and you could get a steak, and then you could

995
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 1: get pasta and then you could get I mean they

996
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:07,920
Speaker 1: had everything you could imagine. And it wasn't like just

997
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:10,840
Speaker 1: nice food at a VIP event. It was next level,

998
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:14,400
Speaker 1: like it was beautiful food, beautiful drinks. I mean I

999
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:16,879
Speaker 1: barely watched the racing, you know, I wasn't really there

1000
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:17,120
Speaker 1: for that.

1001
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:18,440
Speaker 2: Did you do the grid walk?

1002
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:20,399
Speaker 1: I did? I did do the grid walk?

1003
00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 2: Did you get that really insanely awkward interview was his name?

1004
00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:26,280
Speaker 1: Yes, I did.

1005
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:31,240
Speaker 2: Obsessed with him. He have you ever watched that happen

1006
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:33,920
Speaker 2: outside of the one you participated in?

1007
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:36,839
Speaker 1: I have watched it. I don't know that I saw

1008
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 1: that interview. I've seen one, but not that interview.

1009
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:42,839
Speaker 2: He's just walking through. Nobody wants to talk to him,

1010
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:45,319
Speaker 2: and he's just him and the cameraman and they don't

1011
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:47,400
Speaker 2: know how to follow each other, and he has the

1012
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 2: most awkward conversation. I live for it.

1013
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:53,480
Speaker 1: The whole thing was quite awkward actually, because, yeah, they

1014
00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:55,920
Speaker 1: put you down with all the other like VIPs or

1015
00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:58,359
Speaker 1: celebrities that are there, and I'm not in a Formula one,

1016
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:00,279
Speaker 1: so I don't even want to be like, I don't

1017
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:02,080
Speaker 1: even want to be seen there because I don't want

1018
00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:04,160
Speaker 1: to have to answer questions about Formula one? Do you

1019
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:06,480
Speaker 1: know what I mean? I'm just gonna sound like a

1020
00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:08,839
Speaker 1: fucking asshole. So I was like, please, I don't want

1021
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:11,440
Speaker 1: to be interviewed. And then they wrangle you and they

1022
00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:13,399
Speaker 1: ask you questions and you're just trying to be as

1023
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:17,920
Speaker 1: banal as possible in your answers and responses. But yeah,

1024
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:20,680
Speaker 1: it was quite a It was an interesting watching those

1025
00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:24,360
Speaker 1: guys get into those cars. That was where they're like,

1026
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:27,680
Speaker 1: they're holding these hoses to them to keep them cool

1027
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:30,640
Speaker 1: with air conditioning because they're so so they're blowing this

1028
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:34,520
Speaker 1: freezing cool well free on I think, onto them or

1029
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:37,840
Speaker 1: not free on, but whatever it's called coolant there. They're

1030
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:39,960
Speaker 1: blowing it onto them as they get in these suits

1031
00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:42,399
Speaker 1: and their cars. And these guys are dripping before they

1032
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:44,560
Speaker 1: even take off, and that's before the car.

1033
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:47,560
Speaker 3: The door is closed. So I was more like shocked

1034
00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:47,960
Speaker 3: by the.

1035
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:48,880
Speaker 2: Door is closed.

1036
00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:56,440
Speaker 1: There's no door, right, whatever that is, it's a tough thing.

1037
00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:57,440
Speaker 3: They just.

1038
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:03,280
Speaker 2: Put a little like oh yeah yeah, like a heavy scoff.

1039
00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:03,839
Speaker 2: That was my.

1040
00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:07,239
Speaker 1: Takeaway that there was a door. So obviously I was

1041
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:09,000
Speaker 1: playing very close to touch it. But I was more

1042
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:11,799
Speaker 1: I was more concerned about their temperatures. I couldn't get

1043
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:14,480
Speaker 1: my mind off of how hot they must be.

1044
00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:16,520
Speaker 5: Because of all the fire retardant they're wearing or what.

1045
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:19,480
Speaker 1: I think. It's a pretty high. Also, it's just a

1046
00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:22,880
Speaker 1: hot sport, like they're sitting there running motors and reving

1047
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:25,439
Speaker 1: engines and so it's really hot in that room where

1048
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:25,680
Speaker 1: you go.

1049
00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:29,040
Speaker 2: No, famously, not a lot of trees on a Formula

1050
00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:29,520
Speaker 2: one track.

1051
00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:34,840
Speaker 1: Well, Hannah Gadsby, this has been a very big pleasure.

1052
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:38,160
Speaker 1: I really enjoy you. I am glad that you have

1053
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:39,520
Speaker 1: Jenny in your life.

1054
00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:41,600
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, we're glad.

1055
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:43,839
Speaker 1: And I'm glad that you're doing well. And your new

1056
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:46,800
Speaker 1: special is fantastic. It's called Wolf.

1057
00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:49,160
Speaker 3: Everybody can watch it on YouTube.

1058
00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:53,560
Speaker 2: It's also a full album like it, certainly the twenty

1059
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:56,400
Speaker 2: minutes on YouTube, and then there's like the eighty minute

1060
00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:57,800
Speaker 2: show on audio only.

1061
00:56:58,040 --> 00:57:01,000
Speaker 1: I like, yeah, And so it's like a book on tape,

1062
00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:04,720
Speaker 1: but fun much funnier, much funnier than any funny book

1063
00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:06,399
Speaker 1: on tape, that's right.

1064
00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:09,480
Speaker 2: I like tape tape, funny book tape.

1065
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:15,799
Speaker 1: Doors. You know, we're bringing all the stuff back tape, doors, driveways, heat, whatever. Okay, well,

1066
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:17,800
Speaker 1: well Hannah, we'll let you go. Thank you so much

1067
00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:18,720
Speaker 1: for your time today.

1068
00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:20,360
Speaker 2: We're doing questions, food.

1069
00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:23,080
Speaker 1: We ended up talking. We ended up talking for a

1070
00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:25,520
Speaker 1: full hour. This was a full hour, so we don't

1071
00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:28,680
Speaker 1: have to take questions. I'm so looking forward to I

1072
00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:31,120
Speaker 1: knew you weren't looking forward to that, so I kind

1073
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:33,880
Speaker 1: of was like, let's just keep talking. You I had answers,

1074
00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:39,360
Speaker 1: all right, I love it. Thank you so much for

1075
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:40,480
Speaker 1: being with us.

1076
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:44,880
Speaker 2: It's been lovely. I one day will hang out.

1077
00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:47,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, well when I come to Australia, I'll hit you up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I have a plus fun on the cruise if

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Speaker 2: you want.

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Speaker 1: Okay, let me think about that, let me sleep on

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Speaker 1: that and get back to you.

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Speaker 2: Well, best wishes. You're doing a mouthless job. I also

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00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:03,160
Speaker 2: enjoy you. I enjoy how you've evolved. It's not not

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Speaker 2: as in you had to evolve, but in like as

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Speaker 2: a human, we evolve and it's hard to do that

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Speaker 2: in the public eye when people want to pin you

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Speaker 2: where they understand you and I think you you've navigated

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Speaker 2: quite a graceful career.

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Speaker 3: Oh that's so nice of you. Thank you, Thank you.

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Speaker 2: I can do it.

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Speaker 1: Yes, you can lo poo. That's Spanish for you can

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00:58:24,080 --> 00:58:24,360
Speaker 1: do it.

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Speaker 3: Well, that's Spash for I can do it.

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Speaker 1: Oh, thank you, Chelsea. Chelsea, I can't speak English or

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Speaker 1: Spanish anymore.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what to say to that.

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Speaker 1: Adios.

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Speaker 2: Oh of course, goodbye.

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Speaker 1: Bye, Hannah.

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