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Speaker 1: Hello again everyone, and welcome to the Official Colts Podcast.

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Speaker 1: Jeffrey Gorman, j miss learra Ulberton. Huge week in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: This is kind of the whole mushroom, the culmination, if

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Speaker 1: you will, the culmination. And by the way, I hope

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Speaker 1: you guys are satiated after this podcast. Did I use

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Speaker 1: it right? Did I use it right?

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Speaker 2: Incorporating like a word of the week, like you know

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Speaker 2: that we drop into the pot. It's like, you know when.

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Speaker 3: I covered the White Sox Chris Sale back when he

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Speaker 3: was on the White Sox, he had a word of

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Speaker 3: the day that he had to use in every postgame

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Speaker 3: press conference after he started, and it was always some

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Speaker 3: like big word that one of their video guys gave him.

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Speaker 3: And you could see like the gears turning in his

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Speaker 3: head of like I gotta get this work in. I

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Speaker 3: gotta get this word in. I'd have to go back

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Speaker 3: and find him, but we could.

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Speaker 1: And then he just then he just go mow down

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Speaker 3: What are great players And you know he didn't do

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Speaker 3: it after cut up the jerseys, but yeah, satiated, Thank

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Speaker 3: you for that.

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Speaker 2: You're welcome. Also, we were hanging out on Monday, and

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Speaker 2: we were watching TV. I scrolling through, pulled up the

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Speaker 2: guide and it said like super Bowl opening nights. Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 2: and my husband is like, this has become like the Olympics,

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Speaker 2: Like it's like the opening ceremonies right of now it's

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Speaker 2: not just like used to kind of just be like

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Speaker 2: there was Super Bowl Media Day and then the game.

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Speaker 2: Now it's like there's something every single day that you

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Speaker 2: have seven days straight of kind of wall to wall

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Speaker 2: coverage of the whole thing. So it's incredible, like the

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Speaker 2: magnitude of it all, Like Scott Hansen was up there

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Speaker 4: It's great.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, think about it too. Then, so the super Bowl

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Speaker 3: is gonna end on Sunday, and then you'll get this

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Speaker 3: sort of maybe slight little dip you'll get through parade

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Speaker 3: coverage and then oh, here comes the NFL combine. Yeah

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Speaker 3: in like two weeks, right, I mean we're we're gonna

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Speaker 3: be sitting down in the Indiana Convention Center in like

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Speaker 3: what three weeks from today talking with can't wait. That's great, schmoozing,

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Speaker 3: rubbing elbows with everyone who's walking by our table. I

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Speaker 3: mean that's in three weeks. That is interesting that's like

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Speaker 3: the official start of the offseason in terms of the

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Speaker 3: news cycle is the combine and three weeks and.

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Speaker 1: Is right down the street, which is great, by the way.

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Speaker 1: I love that. Hey, I'm excited about this one because

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Speaker 1: we talked about the Super Bowl and Super Bowl Week.

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Speaker 1: You know all the media's you know, a lot of

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Speaker 1: teams send Cruz there and stuff like that. Robert Mays

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Speaker 1: from the Athletic, one of the best in the business.

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Speaker 1: He's down there at New Orleans. He's on Radio Row,

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Speaker 1: but he's also on this show. JJ had a chance

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Speaker 1: to catch up with Robert Mays recently from the Athletic.

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Speaker 1: I want to go over that real quick. I love

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Speaker 1: the national perspective of this team because the question marks

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Speaker 1: that happened with the quarterback. Then you've got a guy

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Speaker 1: like Jonathan Taylor and how special he is, and then

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Speaker 1: the defense and our Gus Bradley's gone and lou Anarumo.

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Speaker 1: Just give me a quick thing, what was the thing

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Speaker 1: that you were most interested in asking about this football

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Speaker 1: team with Roberts.

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Speaker 3: So the reason why I want to have rob on

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Speaker 3: is to talk about lou Anarumo. He's, like I told

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Speaker 3: him at the start of it. He's one of the

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Speaker 3: foremost lou Anarumo guys in the national football media sphere.

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Speaker 1: But why does he love him? Does he say why

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Speaker 1: he loves him or.

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Speaker 3: It's yeah, we'll get into that. It's what he does,

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Speaker 3: mixing up coverages and disguising things. But the question that

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Speaker 3: really interesting answer was I was like, Okay, you get

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Speaker 1: That's gonna be fun. All right. Here it comes host

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Speaker 1: of the Athletic Football Show, Robert May's also a writer

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Speaker 1: at The Athletic had a chance tim to sit with

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Speaker 1: JJ recently enjoyed.

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Speaker 3: It is my pleasure to welcome back to the official

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Speaker 3: Colts podcast, My North Star when it comes to understanding football.

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Speaker 3: Robert May is the host of The Athletic Football Show,

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Speaker 3: which you can listen to wherever you get your podcast.

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Speaker 3: You can also watch it on YouTube. Check it out

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Speaker 3: after you're done watching this episode or listening to this episode.

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Speaker 3: The stuff Robert and Derek Klassen do is really really

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Speaker 3: good stuff, really in depth. I always learn a lot

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Speaker 3: listening to every episode, So Rob thinks for taking the time, man,

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Speaker 3: I'm happy to do it. And as one of the

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Speaker 3: foremost lou Anarumo guys in the football media sphere, what

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Speaker 3: was your general reaction when you saw him get scooped

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Speaker 3: up by the Colts. I mean it was only two

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Speaker 3: weeks after he got let go by Cincinnati. It seemed

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Speaker 3: like a pretty quick process. What do you think about

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Speaker 3: the fit with the Colts and what he can bring

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Speaker 4: Not surprised to see it happen that fast.

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Speaker 5: I think everything about the process from him getting let

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Speaker 5: sense because obviously the Bengals had to do something after

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Speaker 5: the way that their season went. They had one of

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Speaker 5: the worst defenses in the league last year and it

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Speaker 5: has been a two year problem for them. I think

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Speaker 5: you could make an argument that that's more talent based

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Speaker 5: than it is coordinator based. This is a team that

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Speaker 5: had a plan for how it was going to build.

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Speaker 5: As they started paying their offensive pieces and that plan

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Speaker 5: involved getting cheaper on defense, getting younger on defense, and

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Speaker 5: taking a lot of swings in the draft. A lot

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Speaker 5: of those swings were missus and so they were not

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Speaker 5: left with much to work with on that side of

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Speaker 5: especially up front for them this year, and low was.

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Speaker 4: In a tough situation. You know, it's difficult to.

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Speaker 5: Win with out a lot of high end pieces, and

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Speaker 5: so I'm not surprised that they moved on. But I'm

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Speaker 5: also not surprised that another team said, we think that

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Speaker 5: good job. From a schematic perspective, it's just going to

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Speaker 5: be more dynamic than it's been in Indianapolis, and that's

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Speaker 5: not really hard to say.

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Speaker 4: You know, the Colts for the most part, were one

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Speaker 5: Static defenses in the league for the last several years

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Speaker 5: Little bit over the last couple of years, where it's

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Speaker 4: You've got some more too high looks, etc.

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Speaker 5: But when you look at other elements of the defense,

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Speaker 5: two things that I would point to one, just blitz

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Speaker 5: That's just not how Gus Bradley wanted to live. And

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Speaker 5: into coverage, I believe the Colts were dead last in

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Speaker 5: see mugged up linebackers dropping, You're going to see a

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Speaker 5: to see more man coverage, You're going to see more blitzing.

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Speaker 5: It's just going to drop eight. For example, the Bengals

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Speaker 4: You don't want to live that way, but as a

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Speaker 5: I believe the Colts were near the bottom of the

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Speaker 5: do that, So just small little vacillations in what sort

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Speaker 3: I want to go back to the Bengals defense last

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Speaker 3: Aroumo not getting those guys to work together. Like where

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Speaker 3: Lou and I sort of default to the same thing

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Speaker 3: you just said, Robert of like, yeah, they didn't have

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Speaker 3: a whole lot of players there, but how did that

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Speaker 5: I think it's really hard to feel the competent NFL

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Speaker 5: Can't do it, it's harder to do everything else. And

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Speaker 5: You know, the guys that they had kind of made

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Speaker 5: Those guys really took a significant step backward. So I

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Speaker 5: And as I projected forward to Indianapolis, the Colts don't

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Speaker 5: the way that he's played over the last couple of years.

439
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Speaker 4: So when you've had.

440
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Speaker 5: That level of success, when you've stayed the course, I

441
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Speaker 5: think it can be tempting to say we're going to

442
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Speaker 5: see what sort of growth we have from our in

443
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Speaker 5: house players, and that just didn't happen in the defensive

444
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Speaker 5: backfield this year, and so I think showing a little

445
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Speaker 5: bit more urgency there would probably be the first place

446
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Speaker 5: that I would go.

447
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Speaker 4: On offense.

448
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Speaker 5: I don't really know what my answer would be, like,

449
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Speaker 5: I like the pieces that they have on offense. I

450
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Speaker 5: like the receivers, I like the offensive line. I think that,

451
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Speaker 5: you know, we'll see what happens with Braden Smith. Obviously

452
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Speaker 5: he's getting a little bit expensive, and I wouldn't be

453
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Speaker 5: shocked if they tried to save a little bit of

454
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Speaker 5: money somewhere along the way, because they have drafted a

455
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Speaker 5: bunch of potential succession plans there, Like you have BORDERLINI

456
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Speaker 5: now potentially at center. You know, you have Goncalves now, Yes, whatever,

457
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Speaker 5: however you pronounce that, I just see it.

458
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Speaker 4: I just see it on a depth chart.

459
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Speaker 3: So you can't. You can't be expected to know how

460
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Speaker 3: to pronounce thousands of players' names like that.

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Speaker 5: The fact that I even know that that that he's

462
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Speaker 5: the backup or swing tackle in the of the future

463
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Speaker 5: for the probably.

464
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Speaker 4: I deserve much of a sick of that. But I

465
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Speaker 4: think that you.

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Speaker 5: Know that that area, I wouldn't be surprised to see

467
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Speaker 5: a couple of changes to save a little bit of

468
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Speaker 5: money somewhere along the way.

469
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Speaker 4: But the complexion of the offense itself.

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Speaker 5: I actually do appreciate how a lot of the pieces

471
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Speaker 5: fit together there. I think that with some baked in

472
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Speaker 5: development from Ady Mitchell into next year. You know, he's

473
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Speaker 5: he was a wild horse this year, right Like it

474
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Speaker 5: wasn't easy to understand where he would be and why.

475
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Speaker 5: But the guy really does create separation. And so you

476
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Speaker 5: have that combined with Pittman, combined with downs what Pierce

477
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Speaker 5: is giving you. I do like the pieces that they

478
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Speaker 5: have on that side of the ball. I just think

479
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Speaker 5: that we can do this all day. It's about the quarterback.

480
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Speaker 5: Like it just we could do this all day. It's

481
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Speaker 5: about what you eventually get from the quarterback. And I

482
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Speaker 5: think more than any single personnel move they could make

483
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Speaker 5: this offseason, that is going to be the question that

484
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Speaker 5: hangs over this team for the next two years, five years,

485
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Speaker 5: until we figure out exactly what he is.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that is That's as you said, that's the

487
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Speaker 3: big one right there to get figured out. And it

488
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Speaker 3: doesn't feel like nothing else matter, because there's still a

489
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Speaker 3: lot that goes into fielding a good team. But you're right,

490
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Speaker 3: that's the most important one to get figured out.

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Speaker 1: All right.

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Speaker 3: I want to talk about the AFC South before we

493
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Speaker 3: let you get out of here. Why the Texans move

494
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Speaker 3: on from Bobby Slowick.

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Speaker 5: You can't have that few answers in pass protection over

496
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Speaker 5: the course of the entire season.

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Speaker 4: You just can't do it, you know.

498
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Speaker 3: So is that an issue of a bad offensive line

499
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Speaker 3: makes you a bad play caller or it was something deeper.

500
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Speaker 4: Than much deeper than that.

501
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Speaker 5: If you look at the amount of unblocked pressures that

502
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Speaker 5: that team had over the course of the season, we

503
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Speaker 5: talk about manipulating pass protection plans.

504
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Speaker 4: I think you can make.

505
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Speaker 5: An argument that they were the most easily manipulated pass

506
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Speaker 5: protection unit in the entire league for the entire season.

507
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Speaker 4: And this happened over the whole year.

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Speaker 5: The game that I think really started like flashing alarm

509
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Speaker 5: bells for people. I can't remember which week it was

510
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Speaker 5: they played against the Packers on the road, and what

511
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Speaker 5: Jeff Hathley did to Bobby Sloweck in that game in

512
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Speaker 5: terms of manipulating what they were doing up front, he

513
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Speaker 5: ran circles around him, and you would hope, okay, can

514
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Speaker 5: that get a little bit better? And as they swapped

515
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Speaker 5: out individual pieces on the offensive line, Okay, we're gonna

516
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Speaker 5: put Jared Patterson at center instead of Juice Scrugs. We're

517
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Speaker 5: going to move Titus Howard to left guard, and we're

518
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Speaker 5: gonna put Blake Fisher at right tackle. When they had

519
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Speaker 5: what they thought was their best five out there, it

520
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Speaker 5: didn't go. It didn't do anything to combat how easily

521
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Speaker 5: teams were manipulating them. In the Division round against the Chiefs,

522
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Speaker 5: they gave up nine unblocked pressures per Next Gen Stats.

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Speaker 5: That was like the sixth most into game all year.

524
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Speaker 5: So their worst pass protecting game of the season in

525
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Speaker 5: terms of having a plan for how teams are going

526
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Speaker 5: to attack them, was the last game of the season.

527
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Speaker 5: They had the entire year to get this sorted out,

528
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Speaker 5: and they just couldn't do it. And So if that's

529
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Speaker 5: your problem when you've invested all they have in their

530
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Speaker 5: offensive line, at a certain point, that rests with the

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Speaker 5: offensive coordinator in the offensive why coach, both of whom

532
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Speaker 5: are no longer in Houston.

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Speaker 3: All right, let's talk about the Jags. I think the

534
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Speaker 3: headlines have been about Liam Cohen that this is kind

535
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Speaker 3: of a weird process for him to get there. He

536
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Speaker 3: sort of left the Buccaneers at the altar, and he says,

537
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Speaker 3: du vall weird. You're someone who maybe cares less about

538
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Speaker 3: those things and more about the actual impact he could

539
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Speaker 3: have in an organization, which is why you're the right

540
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Speaker 3: person to ask this question. You mentioned this on your

541
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Speaker 3: podcast last week that as soon as it kind of

542
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Speaker 3: became clear that Doug Peterson or maybe it was Derek

543
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Speaker 3: Lassen mentioned it. As soon as it be kind of

544
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Speaker 3: it was clear that Doug Peterson was not going to

545
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Speaker 3: work out there and the Buccaneers offense is doing some

546
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Speaker 3: really fun things. It was like Liam Cone would be

547
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Speaker 3: a great fit there. Why is he a really good

548
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Speaker 3: fit for the pieces they have there? And then specifically

549
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Speaker 3: Trevor Lawrence.

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Speaker 5: I just have always wanted to see an offense for

551
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Speaker 5: Trevor Lawrence where he just wasn't asked to do very much,

552
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Speaker 5: you know, and that you don't want to minimalize, you know,

553
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Speaker 5: want to minimize a quarterback making fifty five million dollars

554
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Speaker 5: a year, but it's okay to make the game easier

555
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,440
Speaker 5: in your quarterback, like that's an okay place to land.

556
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Speaker 5: And I think Baker Mayfield has been really good for

557
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Speaker 5: the Bucks over the last couple of years. But if

558
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Speaker 5: you look at the structure of that offense, he can

559
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Speaker 5: take a lot of plays off. They had one of

560
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Speaker 5: the best running games in the NFL. And some of

561
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Speaker 5: that is drafting Graham Barton in the first round, and

562
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Speaker 5: you know, having an offensive line with some nice pieces,

563
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Speaker 5: you get some in house development from your second round

564
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Speaker 5: right guard, all of that stuff. But the structure of

565
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Speaker 5: that running game was beautiful. Like there's no other there's

566
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Speaker 5: no other word that I would use. They went from

567
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Speaker 5: the worst running game in the league in twenty twenty

568
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Speaker 5: two and twenty twenty three combined to a top five

569
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Speaker 5: running game last year. You don't have to have that

570
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Speaker 5: sort of transformation from Trevor Lawrence. But if you can

571
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Speaker 5: go from a bottom five running game to a top

572
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Speaker 5: half of the league running game, and you compare that

573
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Speaker 5: with a screen game that in my opinion, was the

574
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Speaker 5: most dynamic screen game in the NFL this year for Tampa.

575
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Speaker 5: You have play actions that tie to that running game.

576
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Speaker 5: You let him be under center doing a little bit

577
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Speaker 5: more play action. You just give him some easier and consistently.

578
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Speaker 5: I think he's the sort of like quick trigger quarterback

579
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Speaker 5: that could really thrive in that world. And I'm very

580
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Speaker 5: excited to potentially see him there, especially considering this team

581
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Speaker 5: has weapons. You know, if Christian Kirk can get back healthy,

582
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Speaker 5: you've got some receiving talent on that team.

583
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Speaker 4: So you want to go out.

584
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Speaker 5: You want to add, whether it's with a highdraft deck

585
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:25,959
Speaker 5: or somewhere in free agency you drop an into your

586
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Speaker 5: offensive lineman piece in there with your brand and surri

587
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Speaker 5: if money and.

588
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Speaker 4: You feel like the scheme can lift you a little bit.

589
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Speaker 5: I think that is suddenly an offense that gets pretty

590
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Speaker 5: interesting pretty fast, especially when you consider how much they

591
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Speaker 5: struggled over the last couple of years.

592
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Speaker 3: All Right, Robert May is where can people listen to

593
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Speaker 3: your stuff? Where can they find your analysis? Obviously a

594
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Speaker 3: big week coming up from New Orleans with your coverage

595
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Speaker 3: from the Athletic Football Show down there.

596
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Speaker 5: Oh, we're going to be in your ears and on

597
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Speaker 5: your YouTube channel way too often, so we were going

598
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Speaker 5: to be doing shows.

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Speaker 4: I think we all four shows next week.

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Speaker 5: We have a show where we talked to our individual

601
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Speaker 5: athletic beat writers who cover these teams about how they arrived.

602
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Speaker 5: At this point, we'll do our main preview show. I'm

603
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Speaker 5: going to have a show on Sunday night into Monday

604
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Speaker 5: with Diana Russini just scooping up all the scuttle butt

605
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Speaker 5: from the Senior Bowl, which we did last year when

606
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Speaker 5: was always a fun conversation. So we'll have all of

607
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Speaker 5: those in your podcast feed wherever you get your podcasts.

608
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Speaker 5: And then every day from the Super Bowl from Radio

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Speaker 5: Row Live five pm Eastern, we will be doing a

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Speaker 5: live stream hitting all the stuff we did over the

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Speaker 5: course of that day, featuring all the athletic talent that

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Speaker 5: we have down there, and that will be available on

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Speaker 5: the Athletic Football Show YouTube page. So if you're sitting

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Speaker 5: there from four to five pm and you're just finishing

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Speaker 5: up your workday and you want to spend some time

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Speaker 5: taking in Radio what Row was for us that day,

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Speaker 5: we would love if you would come hang out with us.

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Speaker 3: Fantastic. I will be definitely listening to all that. Robert

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Speaker 3: Mays from the Athletic Football Show, thanks for joining us

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Speaker 3: here on the Official Cults podcast. I can talk football

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Speaker 3: all day with you, but I know you've got a

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Speaker 3: busy week ahead. Thanks for joinning us Man.

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Speaker 1: Great stuff. Thank you. Robert Mays from the Athletic JJ.

624
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Speaker 1: Looks like cornerback was the position, yet he talks about

625
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Speaker 1: what do you think agreed?

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Speaker 3: Okay, So here's what I wanted to get at here,

627
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Speaker 3: because I think it's an interesting perspective. You bring in

628
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 3: lou Anarrumo, you get that kind of number one corner.

629
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Speaker 3: Cincinnati didn't have the big name number one corner. They

630
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Speaker 3: had Shadobi, a woozie they brought in via free agency.

631
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Speaker 3: I think it was twenty twenty one. They had him

632
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Speaker 3: for three years and they lost him to free agency

633
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Speaker 3: to the Titans last year. So I found this. I

634
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Speaker 3: was just digging around this morning, trying to just look

635
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Speaker 3: at some old stuff, and I want to pull something

636
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Speaker 3: that's real old nineteen years ago, in fact, twenty years ago,

637
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Speaker 3: because it's twenty twenty five. I got to remind myself

638
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Speaker 3: that twenty years ago at the NFL Combine, Colts general

639
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 3: manager Bill Pollian said, quote, recognizable names don't mean anything

640
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Speaker 3: to us. We don't play that game. We're interested in

641
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 3: guys that play football. If they're not recognizable, it doesn't

642
00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 3: matter as long as they can play. This is a

643
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:03,160
Speaker 3: good reminder going into free agency. I know we all

644
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 3: want the Colts to make the big splash move and

645
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 3: go get really aggressive. That's not how you have to operate.

646
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Speaker 3: One of the best free agent signings the Colts have

647
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Speaker 3: made recently was Samson ebacom Right got nine and a

648
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Speaker 3: half sacks. Was he a big name free agent? No,

649
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Speaker 3: not even close. Deniko Autry, was he a big name

650
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:25,719
Speaker 3: free agent? Not even close. Those type of guys can

651
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Speaker 3: have a big impact. Shadobe A Woozier, not a big

652
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 3: name free agent, had a huge impact on the Cincinnati

653
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Speaker 3: Bengals Von Bell. It's safety, same thing, So you can

654
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Speaker 3: make those games now. Granted, the Bengals also signed Trey Hendrickson,

655
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Speaker 3: who was a big name for you. But just saying

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Speaker 3: as we get through this process and when you start

657
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Speaker 3: thinking about this offseason, just because the Colts. Look, if

658
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Speaker 3: the Colts go out and get a big name who

659
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 3: can play football, great, they get someone who's under the

660
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 3: writer who can play football. That's great. You just may

661
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 3: not get that, you know, do you can't?

662
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Speaker 2: I mean Matt Gay similarly, like not necessarily like big

663
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 2: flashy name probably at the time, like it was a

664
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Speaker 2: big deal to get him, but not necessarily one that

665
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Speaker 2: was probably on a ton of people's radar, right, yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean Gardner Minshew.

667
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: You know, like you think back into the past here,

669
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Speaker 3: and sometimes if you get the big name guy, it

670
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 3: doesn't always work out. But sometimes if you get those

671
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 3: guys who it's like it just kind of incrementally makes

672
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 3: your team better all of a sudden, that has an

673
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 3: outsize impact on what your roster can look.

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Speaker 1: We know what free agency is, we know how it works.

675
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 1: Everybody's looking at the board saying, oh my gosh, it's

676
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 1: opening now. This signing, this signing summer leaked out there.

677
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 1: But what JJ is saying with Robert is in agreement,

678
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 1: especially with Bill Pollion bringing that in the Gary Bracketts

679
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 1: of the world. The Robert mathis is of the world

680
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 1: guys that aren't big time players' names, guys that aren't

681
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Speaker 1: going to anywhere on day one, day two, day three

682
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 1: of free agency, but a week later or two weeks

683
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 1: later they get signed like that. Those are the guys

684
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Speaker 1: that you stack them on top of one another. Then

685
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 1: he got something. Robert May's on this team as a whole.

686
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 1: What did he like about this team. Obviously he loves

687
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 1: lou Anaruma, but there is some you know, there's gonna

688
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 1: be some new faces on this roster. JJ. We're going

689
00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 1: to talk about it at nauseum for the next of months.

690
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 1: But outside of cornerback, does he like the personnel and in

691
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 1: their bak because I mean NFL in the forest, I mean.

692
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 3: If you caught it in there. He said he kind

693
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 3: of likes this wide receiver corps. And I keep hearing

694
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Speaker 3: that from people when they talk about the Colts, like nationally,

695
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 3: that they like this wide receiver corps, that it compliments

696
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 3: each other. Well, I think they maybe don't view Michael

697
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 3: Pittman's season last year as an indication of where he's

698
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 3: going in his career. I think everyone knows a guy's

699
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 3: back was pretty messed up all year. Another year of

700
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 3: growth out of Josh Downs. He got a really nice

701
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 3: year on Alec Pierce. Hopefully you get more ont Ady Mitchell.

702
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,239
Speaker 3: I kind of liked hearing that that all of a sudden, Hey,

703
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 3: the Colt's got a pretty decent wide receiver corp. I

704
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 3: don't know what you think about that. Lera Oh.

705
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 2: I think that there's a ton of opportunity for growth

706
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 2: there and what with this wide receiver corps will benefit

707
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 2: most greatly from is just consistency at the quarterback position

708
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 2: and having more time with Anthony Richards. And you think

709
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 2: about the fact that the spring was obviously so impeded

710
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 2: because Anthony was coming off of surgery, his going into

711
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 2: the off season relatively healthy. Obviously he had a few

712
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:58,719
Speaker 2: things that he was dealing with, but nothing that seemed

713
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 2: to be long term or needing lengthy rehabilitation. That's going

714
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 2: to be advantageous because you look at what this group

715
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 2: has worked with the last two years. You start with

716
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 2: Anthony Richards and then you have Gardner Minshew, you start

717
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 2: back with Anthony, he gets hurt that it's Joe, and

718
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 2: then you have some of that rotation over the course

719
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Speaker 2: of the season. So I think it's impressive that a

720
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Speaker 2: lot of the elements of that wide receiver or group

721
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Speaker 2: have had the type of production that they have had

722
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 2: with so much inconsistency under center. And that's where I

723
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 2: think that there is a lot of reason for optimism

724
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Speaker 2: with this group of wide receivers, just knowing Anthony, seeing

725
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 2: the opportunities with Anthony, having him healthy and being able

726
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:39,240
Speaker 2: to build off of what were some really positive indications,

727
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Speaker 2: especially you know, the downfield threat of Alec Pierce. You

728
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 2: know what you know you're going to get in the

729
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 2: physicality of Michael Pittman, the versatility with Josh Downs. I

730
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 2: agree they do all well complement each other. Now it's

731
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Speaker 2: about okay, we've seen flashes of it, like now, I

732
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 2: don't want to see, you know, lightning, like I want

733
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 2: to see it all the time. You want to see

734
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Speaker 2: you want to see consistent bolts of that type of production,

735
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 2: and you want to see it in terms of, you know,

736
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 2: being the downfield passing game, being that type of deep threat,

737
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 2: but then also that intermediate range two which is where

738
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 2: Josh Downs is obviously so so strong and you know,

739
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 2: such a powerful weapon.

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Speaker 3: I think if we're thinking about like what I saw

741
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Speaker 3: during the playoffs, and I know we're going to talk

742
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 3: about the super Bowl here in a little bit and

743
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 3: the teams that are playing in them, but you did

744
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 3: see some teams, the Buffalo Bills being one of them,

745
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 3: that went on a bit of a run without that

746
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 3: kind of number one wide receiver, that guy who were

747
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 3: like that dude's getting the ball. They had him, they

748
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 3: traded him away to the Texans instead of Yeah, so

749
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 3: you can build a receiver room that you don't maybe

750
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 3: need to have your Jamar Chases, You're justin Jefferson's in

751
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 3: that room. The guys who can do it all, who

752
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 3: can win on all three of those levels and are

753
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 3: such gravitational forces that they change the way you got

754
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 3: to play defense. But you got to have the quarterback

755
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 3: to do it. And I think that's what I just

756
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 3: keep coming back to with this Colts team and those

757
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 3: wide receivers, is you hope that the combination of this

758
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 3: offseason of Anthony Richardson, like you mentioned, Lara being healthier

759
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 3: and being able to participate in everything without needing to rehab,

760
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 3: hopefully without needing to worry about his shoulder or anything,

761
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:16,800
Speaker 3: and then the likely addition of some competition there being

762
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 3: something that maybe rises everyone's level and gets them to

763
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:22,919
Speaker 3: the point where those talents of Josh Towns, of Alec

764
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 3: Pearson and Michael Pittman Junior, and then you know, also

765
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:28,319
Speaker 3: hopefully Adie Mitchell can all work in concert a little

766
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 3: bit better than they did last year.

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Speaker 1: I like what you're saying, is Shaki the number one

768
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Speaker 1: option for Josh Allen. I guess that that was and

769
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Speaker 1: the two tight ends. I mean like, yeah, Cooper didn't

770
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Speaker 1: really do much for him, not.

771
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Speaker 3: Much, but didn't get a whole lot out of Coleman's.

772
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Speaker 1: A good point. Yeah, good point. Hey, the quarterback makes

773
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 1: everything go around. It's kind of what it is.

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Speaker 3: I mean. The thing is, it's also easy to say

775
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 3: if you got Josh Allen, Yeah, I mean, this is

776
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:52,799
Speaker 3: kind of what the Chiefs have done right where you

777
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,719
Speaker 3: trade away Tyreek Hill this year they lost her she

778
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 3: Rice early in the season, and it's like, okay, who's

779
00:34:57,640 --> 00:34:58,319
Speaker 3: their number one guy?

780
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Speaker 2: So when you have Travis Kelcey and also like you

781
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 2: can't you can suffer some losses from the wide receivers.

782
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 2: That's that's a little bit. He re kind of calibrates

783
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Speaker 2: the conversation.

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Speaker 3: I agree, right, it's the gravitational force in there. But also,

785
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 3: if you got Mahomes, you got Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson,

786
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:19,880
Speaker 3: you know you can you can get by without a

787
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 3: number one wide receiver, no question.

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00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:23,920
Speaker 1: Well, good great segue, by the way, going in there

789
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 1: talking some Chiefs and Eagles. Right now, let's shift it.

790
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 1: NFL Honors are coming out on Thursday night of this week.

791
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 1: We're going to have our own little NFL honor segment

792
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 1: here coming up in a minute, but I wanted to

793
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 1: talk about the Super Bowl. Think about your winners there

794
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:38,839
Speaker 1: for a minute and who's going to win and why.

795
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Speaker 1: But JJ, let's start off with comparing coaching staffs of

796
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:48,320
Speaker 1: the Casey Chiefs led by Andy Reid, the Philadelphia Eagles

797
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 1: with Nick Siriani, And I want you to have some

798
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:54,719
Speaker 1: fun with this, like what are those guys doing well?

799
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Speaker 1: Because we've got an old time old timer and Andy

800
00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:59,360
Speaker 1: Reid who's waltzing into the Hall of Fame, and now

801
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 1: Nick Sirian in like four years that two super Bowl visits.

802
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:05,840
Speaker 3: I think those are That's a really good question. You

803
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 3: look at what the the and you Reid staff has.

804
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 3: They have continuity, just constantly. They've got an offensive coordinator

805
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:16,400
Speaker 3: in Matt Naggie who's got light interest from teams. I

806
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 3: think he had an interview with the Jets this year,

807
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:20,799
Speaker 3: but Matt Naggie's probably gonna be an OC for a

808
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 3: while there. On defense, you probably have the best defensive

809
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 3: coordinator in the NFL and Steve Spagnolo.

810
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 1: Still trying to figure out how he's not getting a

811
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 1: head job.

812
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 3: That's a great question. But for whatever reason he's not.

813
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 3: I mean there's ten years ago he's at the Rams

814
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 3: and you know that was a tough place to win

815
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:38,239
Speaker 3: before Sean McVay showed up and they moved to LA.

816
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 3: But their staff is gonna be They're gonna have a

817
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:43,959
Speaker 3: lot of continuity. They're they're not even getting picked over,

818
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 3: like Mike Kaffka, I think was the last guy to

819
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:50,360
Speaker 3: leave for a promotion, I think when he went to

820
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:53,279
Speaker 3: be their quarterback coach to the Giants o CE. So

821
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:55,360
Speaker 3: they just got all this continuity there. And they've got

822
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:58,239
Speaker 3: guys who are like great in their roles but maybe

823
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:01,839
Speaker 3: aren't great in elevated roles potentially, which I think leads

824
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 3: to you can have a program that's set from the

825
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:06,359
Speaker 3: top down by like you mentioned a guy and Andy Reid,

826
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:07,759
Speaker 3: who might go down is the best coach of all

827
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:10,359
Speaker 3: time right when it's all said and done, like that

828
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:12,760
Speaker 3: gap between Belichick and Andy Reid and you know Belichick

829
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 3: and shoot up here and Andy Reid. He's closing that quick. Yeah,

830
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 3: So you've got that continuity on that staff. What Nick

831
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:23,840
Speaker 3: Sirianni has had to do is he had to deal

832
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:26,399
Speaker 3: with what a lot of coaches of successful teams deal

833
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 3: with Lara, which is losing his two coordinators after a

834
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:32,839
Speaker 3: run and losing him early on three years in. There

835
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:34,920
Speaker 3: goes Shane stike in to the Colts, There goes Jonathan

836
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 3: Gannon to the Cardinals. How do you replace them? Last

837
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 3: year that was a struggle to replace those guys with

838
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 3: I think it was Sean Decie was their DC and

839
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:48,799
Speaker 3: Brian Johnson was their OC. So then they kind of

840
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 3: they fall apart at the end of the year and

841
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 3: then all of a sudden, Okay, we got to go

842
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:56,280
Speaker 3: out and get the top guys to be in those roles.

843
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 3: He gets Kellen Moore, he gets Vic Fangio. They're back

844
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 3: in the Super So that is what I think is

845
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 3: what most teams are gonna have to deal with. Most

846
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:07,840
Speaker 3: teams that have success are going to have their staffs

847
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 3: picked over. And if the Colts were to get there,

848
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, guess what, Shane steichenstaff is going

849
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:18,360
Speaker 3: to get picked over. But if you can have the

850
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:23,279
Speaker 3: ability to replace those guys, maybe with fresh ideas, Like

851
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 3: I think what the Eagles did last year was they

852
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 3: kept continuity where they elevated Desigh. I think Desai was

853
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 3: maybe on that staff. Andybe wasn't, but they elevated Brian Johnson,

854
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 3: and then they kind of struggled to replicate what they

855
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 3: had under Shane bringing. Sometimes bringing in the outside influences

856
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:40,800
Speaker 3: I think is good. I think we just did that

857
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 3: here with Lulanarumo, where you kind of bring in that

858
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:46,719
Speaker 3: different voice, that different philosophy here. Sometimes that can have

859
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:49,279
Speaker 3: an impact on a team almost as much as just

860
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:52,880
Speaker 3: the overall scheme and the coaching acumen the guy brings.

861
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:55,239
Speaker 1: Are you surprised? I want to ask you about that

862
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 1: because you knew Sarahanni and you knew him well when

863
00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 1: he was here. Yeah, you know what I mean. And

864
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 1: like he didn't get up out in front of the

865
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:02,799
Speaker 1: cameras all that much. Sure he did, he was there

866
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:05,239
Speaker 1: for the coordinators and stuff. I guess my question you is,

867
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 1: I've only been waiting about three and a half four

868
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 1: years asked to say, is are you surprised that the

869
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:11,879
Speaker 1: success of Nick Sirianni in such a short period of time.

870
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:14,839
Speaker 2: I'm I'm not, Like. I just think about a guy who,

871
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:17,880
Speaker 2: like you, looked at the dynamic that he had. He

872
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 2: was very much like like a player's coach. Like one

873
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 2: of the things that I loved about Nick being able

874
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:26,880
Speaker 2: to watch Nick like firsthand, right and from the field

875
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:29,359
Speaker 2: and just different things. Nick would get really fired up,

876
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 2: like and I just think like seeing that level out

877
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:34,400
Speaker 2: of like seeing that fire out of your coach is

878
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:35,920
Speaker 2: like such a great thing. And I feel like that

879
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 2: Nick has this like infectious energy and this I mean

880
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:48,319
Speaker 2: ruthless competitiveness that I think resonates with that team in particular.

881
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:51,440
Speaker 2: I think it fits you know, Philly and their franchise,

882
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:53,239
Speaker 2: a kind of what the city is built on. And

883
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 2: I just think that now it may have worked different

884
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 2: somewhere else, Right, There's so much it has to do

885
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:01,759
Speaker 2: with head coaches finding success us being with certain franchises

886
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 2: and being a fit for really the kind of character

887
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 2: of the team that they're representing, right, And I think

888
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:12,840
Speaker 2: Nick does that. And I think two, he has built

889
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 2: incredible relationships across the league, and that's why he has

890
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 2: been able to as his staffs have you know, been

891
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 2: kind of plucked over, he's been able to refill and

892
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 2: you know, kind of go back in and find guys,

893
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:29,240
Speaker 2: and not only guys, but a guy like Vic Fangio

894
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:31,879
Speaker 2: who wanted to be there. I mean, yeah, that's one

895
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:36,319
Speaker 2: in what one year, first year in Philadelphia Fangio, the

896
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:39,880
Speaker 2: Eagles ranked first in total defense, second in scoring defense.

897
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 2: They were twenty six and thirtieth respectively in those categories

898
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:47,840
Speaker 2: in the twenty three season. So that's just the impact

899
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 2: that a not only a high level coordinator can have,

900
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:55,719
Speaker 2: but also a high level coordinator is empowered by his

901
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 2: head coach to just lead that group. Right. We saw

902
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 2: Nick's evolution a little bit, and this is where I'll

903
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 2: give it to him too, is like adapting where you know,

904
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 2: obviously like he was more at a role in the

905
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:09,360
Speaker 2: play calling and then he's kind has kind of evolved

906
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:12,320
Speaker 2: from that standpoint. Now I believe it's completely on Kellen

907
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 2: Moore right, like from the offensive standpoint. So that's another thing.

908
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 2: I think Nick has always been always like adapting, looking

909
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:22,839
Speaker 2: to improve, looking to evolve, and I think that that's

910
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:24,799
Speaker 2: something that you have really seen come to fruition there.

911
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:26,279
Speaker 2: But there are a lot of guys, I mean on

912
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 2: that staff. Kevin Petullo is there, Jason Michael is there,

913
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:31,400
Speaker 2: you know, number of former colts who on that squad.

914
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 2: But you're talking about you know, coaching staves being you know,

915
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 2: like acknowledged by other teams, like you think about when

916
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:42,359
Speaker 2: Frank Reich was here, Like Jonathan Gannon was here, he's

917
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 2: now the head coach the Arizona Cardinals. Nick was here

918
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 2: with a number of those guys, and the amount of

919
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 2: turnover that there was, Like you know, Marcus Brady is

920
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 2: now with the Chargers, and so look.

921
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:52,839
Speaker 3: A look at I mean, you know, to go back

922
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 3: to twenty twenty one or even like kind of those

923
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 3: successful years under Frank, his staff started to get picked over,

924
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 3: and maybe there is something too. Once that staff got

925
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 3: picked over, it kind of things declined here. It's hard

926
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 3: to replace those guys. It's really hard, and you don't

927
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:13,359
Speaker 3: get that many chances to do it. If you miss

928
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:15,839
Speaker 3: one time, you might not get a chance to hit

929
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:16,359
Speaker 3: another one.

930
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, poached was the word I was looking for. I

931
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 2: kept it, searching for it over and over. Satiate. I

932
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 2: was fine with poached. I couldn't think of. But I

933
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 2: also think it speaks to, like, you know, kind of

934
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 2: what you're talking about. What works with the Chiefs is

935
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 2: the dynamic of a variety of different like personalities, right,

936
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:33,919
Speaker 2: and just kind of finding a way. And I think

937
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 2: that sometimes that can be hard when you have like

938
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:41,799
Speaker 2: such a good fit of complementary approaches and philosophies and

939
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 2: dynamics in terms of, you know, how you're working with

940
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 2: the players and all of that. But when you look

941
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:49,439
Speaker 2: at the commonality between the two teams and the Super Bowl,

942
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:51,359
Speaker 2: I think you look at these are both guys who

943
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 2: are regarded as you know, very like obviously shrewd defensive

944
00:42:57,000 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 2: minds who have a propensity to adapt and you know,

945
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:04,880
Speaker 2: have a lot of variety within their scheme, you know,

946
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 2: super versatile with what they want to do, a lot

947
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 2: of discuss and I think that that's an indication of

948
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:11,399
Speaker 2: you know, what you hope that you're going to get

949
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:13,719
Speaker 2: out of. Obviously, those are kind of characteristics that you

950
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:15,799
Speaker 2: here talked about with Louis Rumo as well.

951
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, it's it is similar in that like veteran

952
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 3: defensive coordinator. Now Vic and Spags both got a shot

953
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 3: at being a head coach, but just those veterans who

954
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 3: have done it, they've evolved and I mean, look like

955
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:31,360
Speaker 3: it's not like every defense Vic Fangio's coach has been awesome.

956
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:34,840
Speaker 3: Those Dolphins players last year hated the guy, like Steve

957
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 3: Spagnolo had some you know, early on with trying to

958
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:40,279
Speaker 3: get those Chiefs teams up and running. It wasn't just

959
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 3: sunshine and rainbows from the start, but they both evolved,

960
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 3: and I think for my money, these are is like

961
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:51,800
Speaker 3: this defensive coordinator matchup, Wow, just as interesting to me

962
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 3: as the actual game.

963
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 2: I think it's better, right, I think it's it's better

964
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 2: Like I'm more interested I don defensively scheming up than

965
00:43:58,040 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 2: I am the offense.

966
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:01,880
Speaker 3: I don't think Vic's gonna get like his coverage is

967
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 3: like messed with with like Tom and Jerry the way

968
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 3: that you know Jonathan Gannon. It's a good DC. He

969
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 3: got a head coaching job out of it, obviously, but

970
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 3: it's maybe a little more inexperienced. You try to do

971
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:12,719
Speaker 3: that against Vic Fangio, I think he's gonna have an

972
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:13,239
Speaker 3: answer for it.

973
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 1: Thirty eight thirty five. I want to say, the last

974
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 1: time these two teams played in a Super Bowl, I

975
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:20,720
Speaker 1: mean a barn burner obviously with a lot of points scored.

976
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 1: You're saying no on that this year? I mean I'm

977
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:25,839
Speaker 1: just looking at Spagnola and Fangio. Are you saying no,

978
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 1: We're not gonna get that.

979
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 3: I think it's gonna be lower scoring him, lower scoring

980
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 3: look at I mean, I think it's been like every

981
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 3: game in the playoffs this year, the team that's won

982
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:35,799
Speaker 3: the turnover battle has won the game. It's like the

983
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:38,759
Speaker 3: most boring possible answer, but I think it's gonna be

984
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:39,319
Speaker 3: a little cagy.

985
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:41,879
Speaker 2: Also, you guys probably saw this. I wish I could

986
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 2: go back to it right now and look. But like

987
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 2: the number of starters different for the Eagles roster from

988
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 2: when they were there two years ago. Like, I mean,

989
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:54,759
Speaker 2: there's been some significant significant like you think you're like, oh,

990
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 2: you know, it's hurts, you know, you kind of think

991
00:44:57,040 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 2: about these different but like I mean massive, Like, shoot.

992
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 3: It's a lot on defense, it's a lot You've.

993
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:06,919
Speaker 2: Got like your Jalen Carter's and you know, like an

994
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:08,840
Speaker 2: influx of like talent.

995
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:13,880
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, ye.

996
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:17,359
Speaker 3: The one thing I want to bring up about this

997
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 3: matchup that I think is really interesting, we go, how

998
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:27,839
Speaker 3: both teams have their highly paid quarterback. Right, both teams

999
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 3: have their highly paid quarterback. But look at what they've done.

1000
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:34,880
Speaker 3: The Chiefs and Eagles have both invested in their offensive

1001
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 3: line in a way that is like, hey, this is

1002
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 3: this is super important. We have got to do that.

1003
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 3: I mean, the Eagles have probably the best O line

1004
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 3: in the NFL. Like every single year what they have

1005
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 3: there with Jeff Stoutland, obviously they're great O line.

1006
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 1: Coach Jason Kelcey retires, a new kid comes in, right,

1007
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:51,399
Speaker 1: I mean.

1008
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 3: Like Jason Kelsey retires maybe early on in the season.

1009
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 3: It was, but all of a sudden, Okay, awesome.

1010
00:45:57,040 --> 00:46:01,759
Speaker 2: Here we go. Just twenty players who are on the

1011
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:04,320
Speaker 2: field for the Super Bowl and twenty three against the

1012
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:06,439
Speaker 2: Chiefs are slated to be on the fifty three man roster.

1013
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 1: Half Yeah, it's two years ye gone, I mean that's

1014
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 1: a good poler.

1015
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:15,719
Speaker 3: With these teams though, So that that's the Eagles, right,

1016
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 3: you got Lane Johnson there, you got Jordan Mylotta obviously

1017
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:22,359
Speaker 3: Landon Dickerson, Cam Jery, Like, those guys are awesome even

1018
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:26,320
Speaker 3: without Jason kelce the Chiefs, every single year they've poured

1019
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 3: money into that offensive line, and they've used high draft

1020
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 3: picks to bring in a Creed Humphrey, you know, someone

1021
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 3: like that. They've brought in Joe Tooney, who's been all

1022
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:37,240
Speaker 3: over and you know, is one of the best alignment

1023
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 3: in the NFL. They continue to invest in that as opposed,

1024
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 3: and the Eagles have invested in wide receiver too. They're

1025
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 3: paying two top receivers, right, it's all the same.

1026
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:47,759
Speaker 1: I'm gonna agree with you almost outside of specials. I mean,

1027
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 1: outside of that they are spending. They are spending a

1028
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:55,239
Speaker 1: lot of resources, money, draft choices and everything, even more

1029
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:57,279
Speaker 1: so on the outside guys, the running backs and wide

1030
00:46:57,320 --> 00:46:59,919
Speaker 1: receivers yea, and tight end with Kelsey at the offensive line,

1031
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:01,720
Speaker 1: that's a good makeup for success.

1032
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:03,160
Speaker 3: Right now, I think, and I think the Chiefs are

1033
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:06,320
Speaker 3: probably a little more you should. This is going to

1034
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 3: sound weird because you can't look at the Homes at

1035
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:10,719
Speaker 3: all in terms of your team building because he's a unicorn.

1036
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:13,359
Speaker 3: But what they have done, I think is maybe a

1037
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:16,840
Speaker 3: more sustainable format for the rest of the league. The Eagles,

1038
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:18,879
Speaker 3: the way they're able to build it is a little

1039
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:22,800
Speaker 3: bit different. The Chiefs, though they invest in their line.

1040
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 3: They've got one highly paid skill position player in Kelsey,

1041
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 3: and even then it's a tight ends. You're not paying

1042
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 3: him as much as wide receiver. And then on defense

1043
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:35,520
Speaker 3: you've got your dominant defensive lineman Jones, and you just

1044
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 3: you cycle through draft picks there. They trade away Lugarius

1045
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 3: Snead and their secondary is still awesome because they got

1046
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:47,880
Speaker 3: Trent McDuffie and okay, now yeah right, and you supplement

1047
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:52,400
Speaker 3: it with guys like Jordan Reid are Eric Reid? Excuse me?

1048
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 3: Who's great? Safety? Like that? Guys are not great. He's

1049
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 3: a really good player, and they just have a bunch

1050
00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:00,279
Speaker 3: of really good players around this kind of like cent

1051
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:02,440
Speaker 3: triple to force in the middle in Chris Jones. You

1052
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:04,239
Speaker 3: can do whatever the hell you want with him and

1053
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 3: you can't block the guy. So that I think that

1054
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:11,799
Speaker 3: they have such an interesting model where their resources are

1055
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:14,799
Speaker 3: maybe not what the Eagles have, right, the resources maybe

1056
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:18,440
Speaker 3: more what arrested the NFL is dealing with. You just

1057
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:20,799
Speaker 3: have mahomes, But how they build around him, I think

1058
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 3: is really instructile.

1059
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 1: We saw a couple off seasons ago Chris Jones was saying, hey,

1060
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:26,919
Speaker 1: I'm not playing. You pay me, I'm not playing. Finally,

1061
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 1: after about three weeks they we need Christianos and they

1062
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:32,840
Speaker 1: hoist a Super Bowl trophy. I'm going to start here

1063
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:36,920
Speaker 1: with my predictions. Oh and I am going out and

1064
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:38,440
Speaker 1: not on a limb on this because they're both good

1065
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:40,920
Speaker 1: football teams. But I got a Sirianni story attached to it.

1066
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:43,440
Speaker 1: I'm picking the Eagles. I'm picking on Nick Sirianni, and

1067
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:45,319
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you why because I never knew him

1068
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:46,840
Speaker 1: very well when he was here. I was going for

1069
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 1: a while, I came back here, Larry's up in the

1070
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:53,439
Speaker 1: booth doing preseason sideline radio for television. I take over

1071
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:56,799
Speaker 1: Larr's responsibilities doing sideline radio. And I don't know these

1072
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:58,840
Speaker 1: guys well because I've only been town in beck Intown

1073
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:00,799
Speaker 1: for about six weeks up to day point, and I've

1074
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:04,759
Speaker 1: seen practices and never talked to Sirianni. So after the halftime,

1075
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:07,799
Speaker 1: the coordinators that come out, and I've always went up

1076
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 1: to the coordinators ever since I did this, say hey,

1077
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:10,799
Speaker 1: what have we got in the second half? What are

1078
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:12,160
Speaker 1: we looking at? I? And I was gonna ask him

1079
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 1: a question I don't know, I like Paris Campbell or

1080
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:16,560
Speaker 1: something like that. So Sirihanni comes running out of the tunnel.

1081
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:18,279
Speaker 1: I go, hey, coach, you want to find out about

1082
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:20,880
Speaker 1: the get the flip away from me? Who the flipp

1083
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 1: or you get away for me? So he keeps running.

1084
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 1: I understand he didn't know me for madam, like I

1085
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:27,720
Speaker 1: got the Colts shirt on in the in the flag

1086
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:30,279
Speaker 1: but I haven't had that discussion and our PR team

1087
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 1: didn't say it. So Matt Conti comes up during the game.

1088
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:35,719
Speaker 1: He goes, did you have something with Sirianni. I said, yeah,

1089
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 1: I bum rushed him and I took him by surprise,

1090
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:39,920
Speaker 1: and he's like, well, he wanted to apologize to you,

1091
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:42,120
Speaker 1: and I'm like, don't worry about it.

1092
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:42,359
Speaker 5: I go.

1093
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:44,239
Speaker 1: I go to the locker room. After the game, he

1094
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:46,000
Speaker 1: seeks me out. He's like, I'm sorry, I don't know

1095
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 1: your name, but I'm sorry about that. I just didn't

1096
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:49,319
Speaker 1: know who you were and you were shoving the thing.

1097
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:51,359
Speaker 1: So hey, Nick, sorry about that a few years ago,

1098
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:51,880
Speaker 1: but go ahead.

1099
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 2: One of my favorites while we're here. Yeah, my favorite

1100
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:56,759
Speaker 2: Sirianni moments. This was very well documented in with the

1101
00:49:56,800 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 2: Next Pick, and it was the draft when everyone is

1102
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 2: on zoom for the draft and Nick is like at

1103
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:11,759
Speaker 2: his house in his basement. He's wearing a sweatband like

1104
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 2: I don't know if it was he'd been like working

1105
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 2: out or whatever, but uh, it was when they drafted

1106
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:23,480
Speaker 2: Pitt and JT. And obviously like it's all the scouts

1107
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:26,120
Speaker 2: and everything, he were on the zoom out in nowhere,

1108
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 2: Sirianni appears full screen on the zoom whoa like just

1109
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:32,960
Speaker 2: like shouts and like gives a fist bump because he

1110
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:36,279
Speaker 2: was like thanking the scouts like for what they did

1111
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:39,560
Speaker 2: to like get those guys. It was awesome, Like it

1112
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:43,120
Speaker 2: was so funny. You're just like such a great moment.

1113
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:46,480
Speaker 2: And again, like that's like his enthusiasm, That's what he brings.

1114
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:48,200
Speaker 2: That's what he brings into you know, in the locker

1115
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:51,840
Speaker 2: room and meeting rooms on the sideline, Like it's it's great.

1116
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 2: And you know, I got to know his family like

1117
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 2: of course when they were here too.

1118
00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 1: I want to see Rock the Sweat Band come Sunday

1119
00:50:56,600 --> 00:51:00,319
Speaker 1: afternoon on this What do you think? What do you like? Yeah?

1120
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 3: I kind of think like Chiefs twenty four, Eagles twenty two,

1121
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:09,360
Speaker 3: just something learn something just like close and like I

1122
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:11,800
Speaker 3: don't know if you've ever been to like a World

1123
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:15,080
Speaker 3: Series game where it's like every pitch you are just

1124
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:18,279
Speaker 3: like it's like agony of like, oh, what's gonna happen here?

1125
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:20,680
Speaker 3: It was like if any like we have any Cubs

1126
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:23,480
Speaker 3: fans watching the game five of the twenty sixteen World Series.

1127
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:25,479
Speaker 3: So the Cubs are down three to one, They're playing

1128
00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 3: the Indians at home, and it was like every pitch

1129
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 3: is just like, oh, man, is this gonna be it?

1130
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:31,880
Speaker 3: Because it was such a close game, It's like every snap,

1131
00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 3: I think it's gonna be just like, oh, like here

1132
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:37,359
Speaker 3: we go. Like it's gonna be a like if I'm

1133
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:39,319
Speaker 3: a fan of the Chiefs or the Eagles, I am

1134
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 3: just like white knuckling this whole thing. Now. For me,

1135
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna be like I'm gonna like I'm gonna

1136
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:45,759
Speaker 3: be watching on the couch with my kids and be like,

1137
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:48,440
Speaker 3: look at this like protection they just messed with by

1138
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:50,279
Speaker 3: moving Jalen Carter around here, and they're gonna be like,

1139
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:53,439
Speaker 3: what are you talking about? Uh? I think it's gonna

1140
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:55,160
Speaker 3: be close, and I think the Chiefs win, because why

1141
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:57,760
Speaker 3: would you better predict anything else at this point?

1142
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:00,399
Speaker 1: You're right, I went with the Eagles. JJ is going

1143
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:03,800
Speaker 1: with the Chiefs. What do you what say? You learas Eagles?

1144
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:06,560
Speaker 1: Let's go, Sirihani, let's go. The only thing I'm saying

1145
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:09,319
Speaker 1: is one hundred and six yards. Vic Fangio defense gives

1146
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:12,399
Speaker 1: up rushing each week, and now they got the best

1147
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:14,840
Speaker 1: player in the game running back at one hundred and

1148
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:17,960
Speaker 1: six are awful tough. I think they're ninth overall. I

1149
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:19,480
Speaker 1: don't know it's gonna be fun, but I just want

1150
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:19,919
Speaker 1: a great game.

1151
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 3: We have a speaking of Saquon, can we have an

1152
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:22,600
Speaker 3: MVP discussion here?

1153
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:24,399
Speaker 1: I want to That's where I want to go right now.

1154
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 1: Let's get into this. Let me get some paperwork going MVP.

1155
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:29,799
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get your take on MVP, and I'm gonna

1156
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:32,040
Speaker 1: get your take on Coach of the Year. Guys. Okay,

1157
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 1: we're picking these two and the MVP. I'm not I

1158
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:37,560
Speaker 1: want to start there because I'm gonna say just yes

1159
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:40,120
Speaker 1: or no, agree with me or disagree. Can any of

1160
00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 1: these guys win it? And you guys are shocked? Yes?

1161
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:44,720
Speaker 3: Really, Saquon wins it? I'm shocked.

1162
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:47,000
Speaker 1: Okay, any any of these guys. And when I say

1163
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:49,480
Speaker 1: these guys, I mean Josh Allen, I mean Saquon Barkley,

1164
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:51,080
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow, Jared GoF Lamar.

1165
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:52,440
Speaker 3: Jackson, Saquon wins it. I'm shocked.

1166
00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:55,840
Speaker 2: I think Joe Burrow wins it.

1167
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 1: I'd be shocked, you'd be shocked.

1168
00:52:57,120 --> 00:52:58,880
Speaker 3: Hell here speaking Yeah.

1169
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:03,520
Speaker 2: But like I playoffs, Yeah, like you missed the playoffs? Like, yeah,

1170
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 2: I think you kind of have to me to be

1171
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:09,200
Speaker 2: an m v P, Like you've got to have something

1172
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:11,279
Speaker 2: to show for it from the team standpoint, and like

1173
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:14,799
Speaker 2: you've you've got to get You've got to get in

1174
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:18,280
Speaker 2: in my opinion, because to me, that's what makes you,

1175
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:22,400
Speaker 2: what makes you valuable, is taking a team to another level. Like, No,

1176
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:25,920
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow is absolutely one of the top quarterbacks in

1177
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:30,480
Speaker 2: the NFL. I just I think that unfortunately, by nature of.

1178
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:34,759
Speaker 1: The MVP play, should the MVP discussion have to be

1179
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:36,280
Speaker 1: of the Super Bowl teams?

1180
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:39,919
Speaker 2: No, No, I don't think right. And yeah, I don't

1181
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:42,759
Speaker 2: think so. But Saquan would be my pick, Like I

1182
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:44,360
Speaker 2: think would be floored.

1183
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:46,399
Speaker 3: I don't even think he's going to get a vote.

1184
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:48,040
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm just.

1185
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 2: Saying in terms of, you know, the the impact of

1186
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:54,480
Speaker 2: like taking a singular player and the impact I don't know,

1187
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:56,840
Speaker 2: like when you look at them, I that's to me,

1188
00:53:57,040 --> 00:54:00,480
Speaker 2: that's he would be mine. But obviously it always favors quarterback.

1189
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:02,960
Speaker 3: I think it favors for me. It's always going to

1190
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:05,760
Speaker 3: be a quarterback. Ye, unless you have a defensive lineman

1191
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:08,319
Speaker 3: have thirty sacks in a season or something, it's gonna

1192
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:10,120
Speaker 3: be a quarterback because they touched the ball on every play.

1193
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson this year, Oh my god, he had an

1194
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 3: unbelievable season. I think narratively, I'd love to see Josh

1195
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:22,920
Speaker 3: Allen get it because I think he should be an

1196
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:26,480
Speaker 3: MVP at some point, I'm giving it to Lamar Lamar.

1197
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:28,240
Speaker 3: Look look at Lamar Jackson.

1198
00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:28,640
Speaker 5: This year.

1199
00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:32,760
Speaker 3: He completed sixty six point seven percent of his passes

1200
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:36,520
Speaker 3: forty one hundred yards. He threw forty one touchdowns. How

1201
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:41,439
Speaker 3: many interceptions did he throw? Take a guess five four

1202
00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:46,279
Speaker 3: four correct. Forty one touchdowns and four interceptions. And that's

1203
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:49,399
Speaker 3: not even mentioning what he did as a runner, nine

1204
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:52,680
Speaker 3: hundred and fifteen rushing yards, the average six point six

1205
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:53,440
Speaker 3: yards per carry.

1206
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:55,560
Speaker 1: Let me ask you something, really, Lamar Jackson.

1207
00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:59,439
Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson is the best pocket passer, maybe not the best,

1208
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:01,279
Speaker 3: He's a top five pocket passer, and he's the best

1209
00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:02,239
Speaker 3: running quarterback.

1210
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:03,880
Speaker 1: In Let me ask you a question. A guy who

1211
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:07,200
Speaker 1: had a killer career as a running back? Oh J Simpson. Okay,

1212
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:12,600
Speaker 1: if Saquon Barkley breaks breaks his record, guy and plays

1213
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:15,400
Speaker 1: that final game of the season and has in a

1214
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:18,239
Speaker 1: one singular regular season, has the most yard by a

1215
00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:20,439
Speaker 1: running back. Is he an MVP this year?

1216
00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:24,160
Speaker 3: No, Still that the one guy, the one guy who

1217
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:29,520
Speaker 3: I will listen to was actually last year, it was

1218
00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:32,760
Speaker 3: Christian McCaffrey. He's the one guy had listened to because

1219
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:35,520
Speaker 3: of what he did in the passing game as well.

1220
00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:39,160
Speaker 3: Saquan is awesome. The year he had was incredible. It

1221
00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:42,359
Speaker 3: was so much fun watching him, the explosive playability he

1222
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:45,319
Speaker 3: brought to the Eagles. Really, you're right, it changed the

1223
00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:51,600
Speaker 3: Eagles offense. But he like the impact that McCaffrey had

1224
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:54,160
Speaker 3: last year. He had sixty seven catches for five hundred

1225
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:56,960
Speaker 3: and sixty four yards and seven touchdowns in addition to

1226
00:55:57,200 --> 00:56:00,640
Speaker 3: fourteen hundred rushing yards. I just think that the way

1227
00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:04,520
Speaker 3: that McCaffrey changed everything for the Giants last year is

1228
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:08,000
Speaker 3: different than it changed Saquon and McCaffrey last year got

1229
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:12,160
Speaker 3: twenty nine percent of the vote share. Okay, I really

1230
00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:14,759
Speaker 3: don't think Saquon is gonna get He got zero first

1231
00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:17,440
Speaker 3: place votes last year. McCaffrey did after that season, So

1232
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:19,440
Speaker 3: let me let me rephrase this. Saquon Barkley does not

1233
00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:20,520
Speaker 3: get a first place vote.

1234
00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:22,120
Speaker 1: I get you. I'm not gonna argue with you.

1235
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:23,640
Speaker 3: I don't think a running back has got a first

1236
00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:25,040
Speaker 3: place vote since Todd Gurley.

1237
00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:29,440
Speaker 1: Well, then if it's gonna take three thousand rushing yards

1238
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:31,720
Speaker 1: in an NFL season for running back, let's do away

1239
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:34,120
Speaker 1: with that and just make the most valuable quarterback.

1240
00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:36,480
Speaker 3: I mean, but that's that's the problem with the way

1241
00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:37,600
Speaker 3: that it's defined.

1242
00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:42,400
Speaker 2: So do you do who's your offensive player in the year?

1243
00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:43,040
Speaker 2: With this argument?

1244
00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:43,920
Speaker 4: Barkley?

1245
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:46,480
Speaker 2: Okay, So there's this is I was like, that Offensive.

1246
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:49,040
Speaker 3: Player of the Year then becomes like the best offensive

1247
00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:50,480
Speaker 3: player who's not a quarterback.

1248
00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:53,040
Speaker 1: You just said, you just said the NFL honors, I mean,

1249
00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:55,880
Speaker 1: before it even airs, that's gonna happen, rightak went the

1250
00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:57,960
Speaker 1: AP Offensive Player the Year whatever, that's.

1251
00:56:57,760 --> 00:57:00,759
Speaker 3: For Jamar Chase. But like two thousand and yards. Yeah,

1252
00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:04,040
Speaker 3: I mean, come on, it's interesting. It's squon for me.

1253
00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:09,040
Speaker 3: But I like, give me Lamar Jackson, Lamar one, Josh

1254
00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 3: Allen two, and if I were voting for a third,

1255
00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:14,640
Speaker 3: give me those names again. I'd probably put Burrow three.

1256
00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:19,640
Speaker 1: Burrow at three uh names on the MVP. Allen, Barkley, Burrow.

1257
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:22,400
Speaker 3: Go okay, okay, out of those five, I'll go Lamar,

1258
00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:26,040
Speaker 3: Josh Burrow, I'll go Saquon and then I'll go golf.

1259
00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:28,880
Speaker 1: Not too far behind. Boy. Hell of you're Derek Henry

1260
00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:32,560
Speaker 1: in Baltimore, first year as a Raven. I mean, we're

1261
00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:34,200
Speaker 1: talking about these great players and stuff.

1262
00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:36,920
Speaker 3: I think I think with m VP, it's like, if

1263
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:40,040
Speaker 3: you took that guy off the team, what's the what's

1264
00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:42,560
Speaker 3: the drop off? You take Lamar Jackson off the Ravens,

1265
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:45,640
Speaker 3: it's a it's a drop You take Josh Allen off

1266
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:47,440
Speaker 3: the Bills, it's a drop off. You take Saquon off

1267
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:50,080
Speaker 3: the Eagles, it's a drop off. I don't think it's

1268
00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:53,480
Speaker 3: from you are contending to go to the Super Bowl

1269
00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:56,920
Speaker 3: to you are barely making the playoffs. I think the

1270
00:57:56,920 --> 00:58:00,680
Speaker 3: Eagles still probably make the playoffs. That might be a

1271
00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:01,760
Speaker 3: kind of a spicy taker.

1272
00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:06,600
Speaker 2: That's spicy that is, that's yeah. It was Gainwell and

1273
00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:08,960
Speaker 2: Sanders where they're running backs in the last Super.

1274
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:11,080
Speaker 1: Bowl running Yeah, Miles Sanders.

1275
00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:15,400
Speaker 2: Is twenty twenty four this season of the running back comeback.

1276
00:58:16,040 --> 00:58:20,960
Speaker 3: Mhm, here you go. There were Let's see if I

1277
00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:22,480
Speaker 3: can do this. Off the top of my head, there

1278
00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:25,400
Speaker 3: were six running backs this year that had three hundred

1279
00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:29,120
Speaker 3: or more carries last year twenty twenty three zero.

1280
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:32,840
Speaker 1: Wow, okay, okay, those six Jonathan Taylor among them.

1281
00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:35,520
Speaker 3: Jonathan Taylor was among them those six were. Of those

1282
00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:40,720
Speaker 3: six running backs, four were on extensions or had signed

1283
00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:45,840
Speaker 3: as free agents, Saquan, Jonathan Taylor, Derrick Henry and who's

1284
00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:47,680
Speaker 3: the other one, Josh Jacobs.

1285
00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:48,560
Speaker 4: Oh.

1286
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:51,600
Speaker 3: And then the fifth guy was b Jon Robinson, the

1287
00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:54,280
Speaker 3: seventh overall pick. And then the sixth guy was kind

1288
00:58:54,320 --> 00:58:58,360
Speaker 3: of your more traditional type, not traditional, but like the

1289
00:58:58,400 --> 00:59:01,560
Speaker 3: guy's become more in vogue in recent years, which is

1290
00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:04,200
Speaker 3: the mid round draft pick who explodes, And that was

1291
00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:05,040
Speaker 3: Kirn Williams.

1292
00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:05,240
Speaker 4: Oh.

1293
00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:06,480
Speaker 3: I think it was a fourth round pick at a

1294
00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:07,320
Speaker 3: round LA.

1295
00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:07,360
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1296
00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:10,320
Speaker 3: So I think this year it became much more valuable

1297
00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:14,680
Speaker 3: to give running backs to those contracts because explosive passing

1298
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:18,840
Speaker 3: plays have tanked, and it's more it's as important as

1299
00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:20,320
Speaker 3: it's been in the last ten years to be able

1300
00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:23,600
Speaker 3: to run the football now. But I do think just

1301
00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:25,919
Speaker 3: I don't know, if I'm looking at MVP like it's

1302
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:27,720
Speaker 3: for me, it's always gonna be the guy touches the ball.

1303
00:59:27,720 --> 00:59:30,600
Speaker 1: In running back contracts, they're not coming close to the

1304
00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:31,600
Speaker 1: wide receiver contracts.

1305
00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:33,680
Speaker 3: They're not. But look at look at what the Eagles did, though,

1306
00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:38,200
Speaker 3: like Saquon Barkley and Darnell Mooney got comparable contracts this offseason.

1307
00:59:38,280 --> 00:59:41,920
Speaker 3: Darnell Mooney is the second receiver on the Falcons, probably

1308
00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:44,680
Speaker 3: their third or fourth target. Or are you going to

1309
00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:47,400
Speaker 3: give that money to Saquon Barkley who is going to

1310
00:59:47,400 --> 00:59:49,320
Speaker 3: have that kind of elevating impact on your offense. I

1311
00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:51,280
Speaker 3: think what they did, and I think what the Colts do.

1312
00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:54,880
Speaker 3: Jonathan Taylor looks like that was a pretty good Bismart

1313
00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:56,480
Speaker 3: move right there. Good business, good business.

1314
00:59:56,640 --> 00:59:58,080
Speaker 1: All right, guys, this one I want to have some

1315
00:59:58,120 --> 01:00:00,439
Speaker 1: fun with. We're going outside of our comfort zone, which

1316
01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:03,360
Speaker 1: is Indianapolis. And and you know, four sixty five here,

1317
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:07,200
Speaker 1: coach of the year, coach of the air. Our coach

1318
01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:09,600
Speaker 1: is not up for it. So coach of the year.

1319
01:00:09,840 --> 01:00:12,960
Speaker 1: Give me a little take on Dan Campbell, Lions. Hit

1320
01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:16,400
Speaker 1: me with Dan Quinn because Kevin Oh okay, Kevin O'Connell,

1321
01:00:17,160 --> 01:00:19,880
Speaker 1: Sean Payton, dan Quinn, Andy Reid, all of them. Again,

1322
01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:21,920
Speaker 1: there's one that I say, Hey, I'm not surprised at someone.

1323
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:23,960
Speaker 2: Let me see. Please go right ahead, look at the

1324
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:27,280
Speaker 2: single greatest franchise turnaround that we have seen of late. Yeah,

1325
01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:32,800
Speaker 2: look in one singular year with a rookie quarterback, I mean,

1326
01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:34,840
Speaker 2: I don't know how you argue against it.

1327
01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:35,840
Speaker 1: And Dan Quinn.

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01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:40,400
Speaker 2: I mean, here's the thing is like, Okay, Sean Payton

1329
01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:42,840
Speaker 2: and the Broncos. To see the argument Andy Reid, it's

1330
01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:45,920
Speaker 2: he's there every year, right, he can't to argue against

1331
01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:48,720
Speaker 2: Kevin O'Connell. I I kind of see the Donald. I

1332
01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:50,120
Speaker 2: did that with Donald, Right.

1333
01:00:51,160 --> 01:00:54,200
Speaker 3: Dan Campbell is the guy who I I was wrestling

1334
01:00:54,200 --> 01:00:56,600
Speaker 3: between fans on the list, which.

1335
01:00:56,400 --> 01:00:58,080
Speaker 2: I agree, I'm always going to vote for a Dan.

1336
01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:03,960
Speaker 2: But and part of the argument I see there is

1337
01:01:04,040 --> 01:01:08,400
Speaker 2: because the degree of injuries and the way they had

1338
01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:12,600
Speaker 2: to adapt, and the depth that was tested from that team,

1339
01:01:12,640 --> 01:01:14,640
Speaker 2: and the way that team showed up to play each

1340
01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:18,200
Speaker 2: and every week regardless of circumstance, regardless of everything else

1341
01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:22,480
Speaker 2: going on. It was zero excuses. All of that still

1342
01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:25,920
Speaker 2: still single. I mean, when have we seen a single

1343
01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:29,760
Speaker 2: season franchise turnaround like you did under Dan quintin? Now

1344
01:01:30,080 --> 01:01:33,320
Speaker 2: A lot of in year in year one, Like that's

1345
01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:35,600
Speaker 2: the thing is, this is like Sean Payton, I get

1346
01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:38,480
Speaker 2: not your one for him? Like you know, like a

1347
01:01:38,560 --> 01:01:39,800
Speaker 2: lot of things came into play there.

1348
01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:41,520
Speaker 3: One that kind of came into my mind was Zach

1349
01:01:41,560 --> 01:01:44,800
Speaker 3: Taylor in Cincinnati. Yeah, but he was there in two thousand,

1350
01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:49,280
Speaker 3: nineteen twenty and twenty one was his third year, second year,

1351
01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:51,960
Speaker 3: whatever it was, so he had some time to kind

1352
01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:55,480
Speaker 3: of like, yes, essentially like flush the guys out from

1353
01:01:55,480 --> 01:01:58,360
Speaker 3: the previous regime and that build something up and Sanela.

1354
01:01:58,040 --> 01:01:59,959
Speaker 2: Now a lot of things working. I mean, dan Quinn,

1355
01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:03,880
Speaker 2: you obviously have you know, ownership group, and you drafted

1356
01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:07,040
Speaker 2: Jade and Daniels, and you had some great free agency

1357
01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:07,960
Speaker 2: moves as well.

1358
01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:09,600
Speaker 3: But one of the most important things the head coach

1359
01:02:09,640 --> 01:02:12,200
Speaker 3: can do is hire the right staff. And when they

1360
01:02:12,280 --> 01:02:14,760
Speaker 3: hired Cliff Kingsbury, I'll be honest, I was skeptical of that,

1361
01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:17,160
Speaker 3: but he nailed that hiring of an oc.

1362
01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:22,160
Speaker 2: The other thing is dan Quinn as a head coach,

1363
01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:24,520
Speaker 2: regardless of who they were going to draft, regardless of

1364
01:02:24,560 --> 01:02:27,640
Speaker 2: who they were bringing in, whatever, he established a culture

1365
01:02:28,440 --> 01:02:32,200
Speaker 2: in Washington, something that that franchise had been lacking. Right

1366
01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:35,240
Speaker 2: Like we it's well documented, of course, the struggles that

1367
01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:38,040
Speaker 2: have been there. Dan Quinn came in with a very

1368
01:02:38,200 --> 01:02:43,040
Speaker 2: clear vision and a path, a plan, a structure of

1369
01:02:43,080 --> 01:02:45,000
Speaker 2: exactly this is how we are going to do it.

1370
01:02:45,160 --> 01:02:46,960
Speaker 2: This is how we get the buy in and this

1371
01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:50,480
Speaker 2: is Yes, it is obviously the spectacular play of Jaden Daniels,

1372
01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:52,880
Speaker 2: who is the offensive rookie of the year, no question,

1373
01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:55,760
Speaker 2: but it's also what you got from the rest of

1374
01:02:55,800 --> 01:02:57,880
Speaker 2: the guys, from you know, players who had been a

1375
01:02:57,920 --> 01:03:00,080
Speaker 2: part of that team, who had been through all of

1376
01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:02,640
Speaker 2: the struggles and all of the adversity that they have seen,

1377
01:03:02,720 --> 01:03:05,800
Speaker 2: and to buy in to exactly what Dan Quinn is doing,

1378
01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:08,760
Speaker 2: which is not unlike what Dan Campbell did from the

1379
01:03:08,840 --> 01:03:10,240
Speaker 2: day he stepped in the building in.

1380
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Speaker 1: Detroit's there's a little difference here. I don't disagree with

1381
01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:13,480
Speaker 1: you as.

1382
01:03:13,400 --> 01:03:15,400
Speaker 2: All, so I'm always here for a backward hat moment.

1383
01:03:15,480 --> 01:03:20,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, us guys to go from Dan Snyder to Josh Harris,

1384
01:03:20,640 --> 01:03:24,120
Speaker 1: new ownership within two years and to have success as

1385
01:03:24,120 --> 01:03:28,160
Speaker 1: as a program in this league, it's tough. It's tough

1386
01:03:28,160 --> 01:03:30,680
Speaker 1: to have ownership flip the switch on it totally new

1387
01:03:30,840 --> 01:03:32,520
Speaker 1: like that. So now you got new owners in, you

1388
01:03:32,560 --> 01:03:34,640
Speaker 1: come in, you say, okay, Ron Rivera, thank you for

1389
01:03:34,680 --> 01:03:36,640
Speaker 1: doing everything that he did. Now set it up with

1390
01:03:36,680 --> 01:03:39,640
Speaker 1: another veteran coach and you get the quarterback and you

1391
01:03:39,680 --> 01:03:42,560
Speaker 1: get the young GM and you get the young assistant GM,

1392
01:03:42,600 --> 01:03:44,600
Speaker 1: and the front office is right. I'm just saying, if

1393
01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:49,000
Speaker 1: dan Quinn wins this award, which I think he's obviously,

1394
01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:52,240
Speaker 1: you know, more qualified than it's the two dance for

1395
01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:54,960
Speaker 1: me as well in this thing, but as an organization,

1396
01:03:55,120 --> 01:03:57,680
Speaker 1: that organization will get that Coach of the Year award

1397
01:03:57,880 --> 01:04:00,240
Speaker 1: because all the factors that had to come in and

1398
01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:02,800
Speaker 1: playing in a championship game with a rookie quarterback. It's

1399
01:04:02,920 --> 01:04:05,960
Speaker 1: it's mind boggling to me that that turnaround, that how

1400
01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:06,640
Speaker 1: they did that.

1401
01:04:06,800 --> 01:04:10,080
Speaker 3: This is probably unfair to dan Quinn, but I just

1402
01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:12,720
Speaker 3: I I have the kind of lodged in the back

1403
01:04:12,760 --> 01:04:15,280
Speaker 3: of my brain that Matt Naggi got Coach of the

1404
01:04:15,320 --> 01:04:17,600
Speaker 3: Year in twenty eighteen and by the end, but not

1405
01:04:17,640 --> 01:04:20,400
Speaker 3: even the end, three weeks into the twenty nineteen season,

1406
01:04:20,480 --> 01:04:24,240
Speaker 3: Bears fans wanted him fight No, I mean, it happens quick.

1407
01:04:24,400 --> 01:04:27,040
Speaker 3: So that's why I also I like giving it to

1408
01:04:27,960 --> 01:04:30,160
Speaker 3: the guy who it's like, you know what, it's been

1409
01:04:30,240 --> 01:04:32,640
Speaker 3: like three years of this and for Dan Campbell, that's

1410
01:04:32,640 --> 01:04:35,000
Speaker 3: what it's been. It's been three years of like this

1411
01:04:35,040 --> 01:04:37,479
Speaker 3: guy is an awesome football coach. He should get Coach

1412
01:04:37,480 --> 01:04:40,040
Speaker 3: of the Year at some point, Like you mentioned, Lara,

1413
01:04:40,080 --> 01:04:43,720
Speaker 3: everything they dealt with, losing Aiden Hutchinson, losing Alee McNeil,

1414
01:04:43,880 --> 01:04:46,520
Speaker 3: like every impact player on that defense, it felt like

1415
01:04:46,560 --> 01:04:48,640
Speaker 3: got hurt by the end of the year and it

1416
01:04:48,760 --> 01:04:51,160
Speaker 3: cost him in the playoffs. Yeah, but not in the

1417
01:04:51,200 --> 01:04:55,360
Speaker 3: regular season. And that like the inspirational factor that that

1418
01:04:55,440 --> 01:04:59,120
Speaker 3: guy has is like it is. It is very hard

1419
01:04:59,160 --> 01:05:02,280
Speaker 3: to find someone a Dan Campbell and I would put

1420
01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:03,240
Speaker 3: him right up there. All right.

1421
01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:06,240
Speaker 1: NFL Honors Thursday night. The big game, Super Bowl is

1422
01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:08,040
Speaker 1: Sunday afternoon, early evening.

1423
01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:08,680
Speaker 3: I love it.

1424
01:05:08,680 --> 01:05:10,360
Speaker 1: It's a long day of hurry up and wait. I

1425
01:05:10,400 --> 01:05:12,680
Speaker 1: gotta go there, Lara, I gotta go there. We got

1426
01:05:12,720 --> 01:05:15,080
Speaker 1: favorites now on this big day. This is a big,

1427
01:05:15,120 --> 01:05:20,800
Speaker 1: big day around And by the way, there is some legislation, legislation, legislation.

1428
01:05:21,240 --> 01:05:22,640
Speaker 2: It's being brought in sciation.

1429
01:05:23,240 --> 01:05:27,360
Speaker 1: It's being brought in by an Indiana lawmaker to make

1430
01:05:27,600 --> 01:05:29,600
Speaker 1: the Monday following the Super Bowl.

1431
01:05:30,200 --> 01:05:33,120
Speaker 2: Is this lawmaker Matt Taylor, because he's holiday, he's been no,

1432
01:05:33,160 --> 01:05:34,080
Speaker 2: he's the one who brought it to him.

1433
01:05:34,160 --> 01:05:35,520
Speaker 3: Something right in the other room.

1434
01:05:35,880 --> 01:05:38,800
Speaker 1: This they're there, they are going for legislation to make

1435
01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:42,280
Speaker 1: that a national holiday the day after, and it's literally

1436
01:05:42,320 --> 01:05:45,480
Speaker 1: called like Pro Football Memory Day or something like that

1437
01:05:45,520 --> 01:05:46,520
Speaker 1: the Monday afterwards.

1438
01:05:46,560 --> 01:05:50,320
Speaker 2: So any of you lawmakers, it's called like heartburn and indigested.

1439
01:05:50,200 --> 01:05:52,360
Speaker 1: Right, you need it though, by anybody watching the show, hey,

1440
01:05:52,360 --> 01:05:53,960
Speaker 1: we want it, We want to push it through. Want

1441
01:05:54,000 --> 01:05:55,960
Speaker 1: a day off. It's it's either this, guys, and then

1442
01:05:56,000 --> 01:05:58,480
Speaker 1: I'm going off a tangent. Can't you just make this

1443
01:05:58,520 --> 01:06:02,080
Speaker 1: thing on Saturday night? How big ratings? How big it

1444
01:06:02,160 --> 01:06:02,480
Speaker 1: will be?

1445
01:06:02,520 --> 01:06:06,560
Speaker 2: The ratings from a Sunday Sunday Super Bowl Sunday. It's

1446
01:06:06,600 --> 01:06:09,360
Speaker 2: like branded in packaged as as that el.

1447
01:06:09,600 --> 01:06:12,080
Speaker 1: Do you want the day off the next day?

1448
01:06:12,400 --> 01:06:12,720
Speaker 4: No?

1449
01:06:12,840 --> 01:06:15,400
Speaker 1: Not really, It's okay, Yeah, I don't know.

1450
01:06:15,440 --> 01:06:20,120
Speaker 3: Well, here's okay. Here is where I get what you're saying.

1451
01:06:21,120 --> 01:06:23,840
Speaker 3: We are we live in the East Eastern time zone,

1452
01:06:24,120 --> 01:06:27,720
Speaker 3: the absolute worst time zone for watching sports, the Eastern

1453
01:06:27,720 --> 01:06:30,320
Speaker 3: time Zone. Unless you're a soccer fan, then it's great.

1454
01:06:30,680 --> 01:06:30,880
Speaker 1: Uh.

1455
01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:34,720
Speaker 3: The Super Bowl for us ends at what nine o'clock?

1456
01:06:35,440 --> 01:06:38,560
Speaker 3: But if you're living in Palo Alto or you know,

1457
01:06:38,560 --> 01:06:40,320
Speaker 3: I guess Palo Alto's on my mind because you know

1458
01:06:40,440 --> 01:06:43,400
Speaker 3: your luck interview. Uh, if you're living in you know,

1459
01:06:43,760 --> 01:06:46,280
Speaker 3: Colorado Springs Mountain time the best time zone for watching

1460
01:06:46,280 --> 01:06:50,440
Speaker 3: sports games over at eight o'clock, seven o'clock, you can

1461
01:06:51,040 --> 01:06:53,320
Speaker 3: and then watch Murder Coming Down, Coming Down for your buzz,

1462
01:06:53,360 --> 01:06:55,280
Speaker 3: you watch Murder, She wrote afterwards.

1463
01:06:55,320 --> 01:06:58,240
Speaker 1: I mean, what's it's hell to Sunday?

1464
01:06:58,320 --> 01:07:02,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you're fine, keep it where it is. How

1465
01:07:02,040 --> 01:07:04,320
Speaker 3: about this just for the Eastern time zone, we get this.

1466
01:07:04,480 --> 01:07:06,080
Speaker 2: Bump it or just bump it up earlier.

1467
01:07:06,760 --> 01:07:08,240
Speaker 3: You could also just stop earlier.

1468
01:07:09,080 --> 01:07:11,760
Speaker 1: I'm okay with a four to thirty kickoff the West coast.

1469
01:07:11,760 --> 01:07:15,160
Speaker 2: That's already it's already a common time slot. It's like

1470
01:07:15,240 --> 01:07:17,200
Speaker 2: you know, that's already established.

1471
01:07:17,360 --> 01:07:19,800
Speaker 1: But whatever, I agree, And this is just for you

1472
01:07:19,840 --> 01:07:21,360
Speaker 1: at home. Just think of this because if you go

1473
01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:24,760
Speaker 1: to places special mom and dad, sisters, brothers, boyfriend's girlfriends,

1474
01:07:24,840 --> 01:07:27,080
Speaker 1: what's a must have? Because you said it earlier and

1475
01:07:27,080 --> 01:07:29,080
Speaker 1: then my mouth gets watering and if there's not a

1476
01:07:29,080 --> 01:07:32,640
Speaker 1: buffalo dip around me within arms reach, come this Sunday,

1477
01:07:32,800 --> 01:07:33,920
Speaker 1: all hell's gonna break.

1478
01:07:33,760 --> 01:07:36,080
Speaker 2: Loose buffalo dip. That's so that that is min we

1479
01:07:36,080 --> 01:07:39,040
Speaker 2: were talking about like an ultimate super that's a power

1480
01:07:39,120 --> 01:07:40,560
Speaker 2: ranking to.

1481
01:07:40,440 --> 01:07:42,560
Speaker 1: I don't need a blow any other ship.

1482
01:07:42,640 --> 01:07:44,800
Speaker 2: Tip and I want like a little like I want

1483
01:07:44,800 --> 01:07:46,720
Speaker 2: like a tortilla chip. I really like the blue corn

1484
01:07:46,760 --> 01:07:49,360
Speaker 2: tortilla chips. They feel like they're you know, they get

1485
01:07:49,400 --> 01:07:52,360
Speaker 2: a little more thickness. Yeah, big fan of those. I

1486
01:07:52,440 --> 01:07:54,480
Speaker 2: also like to have like some you know, carrots and

1487
01:07:54,520 --> 01:07:58,479
Speaker 2: celery on the side. That's my that is my go too.

1488
01:07:58,600 --> 01:08:01,880
Speaker 2: Like I could go into that stuff just fork to mouth,

1489
01:08:02,040 --> 01:08:05,040
Speaker 2: even like if you just set that little kraka goodness

1490
01:08:05,120 --> 01:08:05,680
Speaker 2: right in front of it.

1491
01:08:05,720 --> 01:08:07,400
Speaker 1: I want my own mini crock pot of that. And

1492
01:08:08,120 --> 01:08:11,120
Speaker 1: and I'm in heabit. Yeah, anything anything at the house.

1493
01:08:11,160 --> 01:08:12,960
Speaker 1: You get the kids running around, you got a cow,

1494
01:08:13,040 --> 01:08:14,800
Speaker 1: and you got anything else in your face.

1495
01:08:15,040 --> 01:08:16,800
Speaker 3: We've done a Super Bowl party the last couple of years,

1496
01:08:16,880 --> 01:08:18,439
Speaker 3: but not not this year.

1497
01:08:18,720 --> 01:08:21,000
Speaker 1: Okay, So I don't know.

1498
01:08:21,120 --> 01:08:23,280
Speaker 3: I gotta figure out what I'm gonna make. I'm just

1499
01:08:23,280 --> 01:08:25,200
Speaker 3: gonna let my kids stay up late and they'll be terrory.

1500
01:08:25,240 --> 01:08:27,360
Speaker 2: The only reason I want to.

1501
01:08:27,320 --> 01:08:29,719
Speaker 3: Actually hold on wait real quick, that's the best reason

1502
01:08:29,720 --> 01:08:32,040
Speaker 3: to not have Super Bowl Sunday, the day after being

1503
01:08:32,120 --> 01:08:34,679
Speaker 3: national holiday. Kids, you still got to go to school. Yeah,

1504
01:08:34,800 --> 01:08:36,320
Speaker 3: I might tick the day off. I might put in

1505
01:08:36,360 --> 01:08:38,720
Speaker 3: pto I mean, I probably want this year, but like

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Speaker 3: if I yeah, I'm gonna just take PTO that day.

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Speaker 3: But my kids are going to school. You get that

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Speaker 3: unicorn day where you're at home, the kids are at well.

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Speaker 2: Okay, hold on, let's talk about this. Then there was

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Speaker 2: a brief conversation on Monday in Roger Gudell's press conference

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Speaker 2: about the eighteen game schedule. If the yes, if the

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Speaker 2: league went to an eighteen game schedule, that was then

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Speaker 2: push the Super Bowl to overlap with President's Day so

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Speaker 2: you would get that day off. Correct, So eventually that

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Speaker 2: will happen.

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Speaker 3: Kids are going to camp that day.

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Speaker 2: That's that's that's when grandparents come in, you know, to

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Speaker 2: the grandparents exactly.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, eighteen games.

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Speaker 3: Daddy had a little. Daddy hit the blends a little

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Speaker 3: too much.

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Speaker 1: And I'm also sniffing a game in Australia I'm hearing about.

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Speaker 1: I mean, my gosh, you guys reading anything about that.

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Speaker 3: I've seen a couple of reports about.

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Speaker 1: In Australia and the NFL, the worldwide domination. It continues.

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Speaker 1: But Saturday night, excuse me, Sunday night. You got me

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Speaker 1: talking on this same Sunday night. We're gonna find out

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Speaker 1: who did it the best and who did it and

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Speaker 1: how many is Andy Reid gonna end up with. I

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Speaker 1: know the Chiefs are a good team. I'm going with

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Speaker 1: the Eagles. I'm just going to nick Sirianni on that

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Speaker 1: and wrap up. Guys, so much loved it. I thought

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Speaker 1: you'd be at the Alehouse, my Ilimporium, el emporium rather

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Speaker 1: on Sunday because of the wings of what they do

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Speaker 1: to you.

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Speaker 2: But I love them. I love them, might go pick

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Speaker 2: them up. But it's just it's so packed and it's great.

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Speaker 2: It's great if you want to be a I just

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Speaker 2: prefer to be like either like at a friend's house

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Speaker 2: or something we're like can watch a little bit more

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01:10:04,520 --> 01:10:07,360
Speaker 2: like It's guys, I know this is really gonna surprise you,

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Speaker 2: but I have a hard time focusing if I'm in

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Speaker 2: like a large public like social setting, because then I'm just.

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Speaker 1: Like you're everywhere.

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01:10:12,720 --> 01:10:16,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Like I need to be like locked in, right,

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Speaker 2: Like you have to remove the stimuli for me to

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Speaker 2: be able to like laser and even on something as

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Speaker 2: big as the Super Bowl? Am I the only one

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Speaker 2: who's really intrigued by the fact that in his first

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Speaker 2: season as a broadcaster, Tom Brady gets a Super Bowl. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'm so like, I'm like, oh, like I'm excited by that.

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01:10:33,040 --> 01:10:36,479
Speaker 2: Like that is the like broadcaster nerd in me, I think,

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Speaker 2: But like I'm excited for that factor too.

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Speaker 3: Like what did you bring you.

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Speaker 1: Talked about before? You're excited about Kendrick Lamar and friends. Uh, halftime, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's it.

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Speaker 3: That's gonna be a good halftime, not bad, not bad,

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Speaker 3: just rap song of all time.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they're bringing it right to the stage. Hey,

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Speaker 1: let's have some fun guys coming up. We have so

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Speaker 1: much stuff the Combine coming right here to Indianapolis and

1562
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Speaker 1: obviously filling out this rostery. We're gonna have priority lists

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01:10:59,320 --> 01:11:00,680
Speaker 1: for you guys coming up in the weeks to have

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Speaker 1: where the Colts are going to concentrate on filling holes

1565
01:11:03,320 --> 01:11:06,719
Speaker 1: in this team offensively and defensively. Obviously what lou Anarumo

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Speaker 1: brings to this defense, We're gonna discuss it and a

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Speaker 1: whole lot more and again the combine right around the corner.

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Speaker 1: Colts dot Com has you covered you like social media

1569
01:11:13,960 --> 01:11:17,960
Speaker 1: watches at JJ Stankovitz, at Larra Overton, best in the business.

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Speaker 1: Things are gonna start kicking into high gear. Right now,

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Speaker 1: we're celebrating the year, super Bowl week and everything, but

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, come Monday, I'm gonna put the

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Speaker 1: you know, the nose of the grindstone as they say,

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Speaker 1: get downtown to the combine and figuring out what this

1575
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Speaker 1: roster is going to look like. Appreciate you guys watching

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Speaker 1: on the YouTube channel and of course the Colts Radio

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Speaker 1: Network for JJ Stankovitz, Larra Overton. I am Jeffrey Gorman.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for watching, Thanks for Robert Mays for a

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01:11:40,680 --> 01:11:43,080
Speaker 1: great interview with JJ, and guys, we will talk to

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Speaker 1: you as I lost win there, guys, we will talk

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Speaker 1: to you next week.