WEBVTT - Draft Show: Importance Of 30 Visits & Pro Days 0:00:04.280 --> 0:00:07.880 He's the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show. Cowboys on 0:00:08.360 --> 0:00:11.720 your war room for in center news and draft analysis 0:00:11.720 --> 0:00:15.120 from deep within the confines of Cowboys Headquarters at the 0:00:15.200 --> 0:00:20.080 Star in Fresco, Dallas Cowboys Select Bozikiel Elliott and now 0:00:20.360 --> 0:00:25.400 your hosts Dane Brugler, David Hellman and Brian brought us. Well, 0:00:25.440 --> 0:00:28.840 we welcome you to the SWBC Mortgage Studios. You have 0:00:29.000 --> 0:00:32.760 the Draft Show on a Thursday morning as we inch 0:00:32.880 --> 0:00:36.920 closer to the end of April and the twenty eighteen 0:00:37.040 --> 0:00:40.839 NFL Draft which will take place and at the stadium 0:00:40.840 --> 0:00:44.280 at AT and T in Arlington. We've got the normal 0:00:45.760 --> 0:00:49.479 set of guys, with the exception of one. Dane Burglar 0:00:49.760 --> 0:00:52.400 is out today and but he should be back with 0:00:52.440 --> 0:00:56.160 us next Monday. Kevin kt Turner from one oh five 0:00:56.240 --> 0:00:58.560 three the Fan in the Ben and Skin Show, one 0:00:58.560 --> 0:01:03.080 of my scouting buddies, is here with us. Katie. Welcome 0:01:03.120 --> 0:01:05.480 back to the Fray. We appreciate you showing up. Thank you. 0:01:05.720 --> 0:01:09.280 This is episode three for me this year. Yeah, it's 0:01:09.280 --> 0:01:11.600 been a good year for draft showing for me. Yeah. 0:01:11.640 --> 0:01:13.760 These are our highest rated shows. When we have you 0:01:13.840 --> 0:01:17.000 on by far, you good like a good spot duty 0:01:17.160 --> 0:01:21.480 linebacker like Joe Thomas. Joe Thomas, I was the Kyle 0:01:21.520 --> 0:01:24.080 Wilber back in the day, a special teams guy as well. 0:01:24.120 --> 0:01:25.880 I can do a little bit everything everything. But we're 0:01:25.880 --> 0:01:28.560 five weeks away, man, Yeah, five weeks crazy. This is 0:01:28.560 --> 0:01:31.280 coming fast. It is coming fast, and I and I 0:01:31.560 --> 0:01:33.520 it's we're starting to see, you know, we're winding through 0:01:33.560 --> 0:01:37.280 these pro days as well. Got Dallas Day stuff that 0:01:37.319 --> 0:01:41.120 will happen on April sixth, where the local kids will 0:01:41.160 --> 0:01:44.000 come in and work out. Cowboys have an opportunity to 0:01:44.040 --> 0:01:45.800 bring them in here to Ford Center to work him 0:01:45.800 --> 0:01:48.880 out on the field. We've also got the twenty twenty 0:01:49.000 --> 0:01:52.080 thirty visits coming up as well, and we're starting to 0:01:52.160 --> 0:01:55.960 kind of hear some names of guys. You know, it's 0:01:55.960 --> 0:01:58.400 a great thing about social media and things like that. 0:01:58.520 --> 0:02:00.800 You can reach out to these kids and kind of 0:02:00.880 --> 0:02:03.360 learn where they're going to visit in places, you know, 0:02:03.440 --> 0:02:07.760 with the fountain. The receiver from Northern Iowa that we 0:02:07.880 --> 0:02:10.560 watched the other night did not go to the combine, 0:02:11.160 --> 0:02:14.120 but he's got like seven or eight visits already lined up. 0:02:14.160 --> 0:02:16.040 And I feel sorry for that kid because every one 0:02:16.080 --> 0:02:18.720 of those visits is gonna be a physical he's gonna get. 0:02:18.840 --> 0:02:21.720 He's gonna get eight physical is what he's gonna get. 0:02:22.040 --> 0:02:24.600 And you know, here's a guy kat third round type 0:02:24.639 --> 0:02:26.519 of a player on you know, if you've talked about 0:02:26.560 --> 0:02:30.480 wide receivers, you know, Dane Bugler's talked about him as 0:02:30.520 --> 0:02:32.519 being a guy. Hey you need to check a check 0:02:32.560 --> 0:02:36.440 out my Northern Iowa wide receiver fountain and so you know. 0:02:36.520 --> 0:02:38.880 But yeah, he's gonna have seven or eight visits coming up, 0:02:38.880 --> 0:02:40.480 and every one of them are going to be a physical. 0:02:40.560 --> 0:02:44.320 That poor guy blood work going on. He's always up 0:02:44.360 --> 0:02:51.200 to twelve. I saw, I don't know, you have a check? 0:02:51.639 --> 0:02:54.000 Should they should bring him to the medical recheck is 0:02:54.000 --> 0:02:56.840 what they should do. That. They should absolutely bring him 0:02:56.880 --> 0:02:59.280 there and let him take one physical and let all 0:02:59.320 --> 0:03:01.680 the teams seem right there is what they should do. 0:03:01.760 --> 0:03:03.840 Maybe they are, but it sounds like to me, if 0:03:03.840 --> 0:03:06.560 they don't do that, he's gonna have it. I want 0:03:06.560 --> 0:03:08.720 to get into that though. I kind of want to 0:03:08.720 --> 0:03:10.240 get because David I think we have a little bit 0:03:10.240 --> 0:03:12.799 of an idea we're gonna get the thirty visits. I'm 0:03:12.960 --> 0:03:15.160 going on a draft show. We'll kind of go through 0:03:15.200 --> 0:03:17.960 some guys. We'll get a hint, but some of the 0:03:18.000 --> 0:03:19.840 guys go through some of the guys. I'm trying to 0:03:19.840 --> 0:03:25.240 get a direction here, maybe early Katie, that maybe the 0:03:25.280 --> 0:03:28.720 Cowboys might be looking at here. It's it's an interesting 0:03:28.760 --> 0:03:30.960 time of year because I mean, working here, you know, 0:03:31.000 --> 0:03:33.600 at the Mothership, we tend to have an idea of 0:03:33.600 --> 0:03:37.160 what's going on before everybody else, right, but this is 0:03:37.200 --> 0:03:40.280 one of those situations where we're the last to know, 0:03:40.480 --> 0:03:42.280 you know, because these guys aren't try and keep us 0:03:42.280 --> 0:03:44.600 as the last well, well, these guys aren't in the building. 0:03:44.640 --> 0:03:48.320 And obviously the scouting department likes to try to keep 0:03:48.400 --> 0:03:50.840 some secrets. Yeah they do. But then these guys go 0:03:50.880 --> 0:03:53.200 out to their pro days and their workouts and they 0:03:53.240 --> 0:03:54.880 talk to members of the media and I mean, all 0:03:54.880 --> 0:03:56.400 you got to do is ask them you're working out 0:03:56.400 --> 0:03:58.040 with the Cowboys. They're like, yeah, I gotta visit set 0:03:58.120 --> 0:04:00.200 up with the Cowboys and that, and then it's on 0:04:00.240 --> 0:04:02.920 Twitter and it's out there, so you know, we're not 0:04:03.000 --> 0:04:05.640 the ones gathering that information. But it gets back to 0:04:05.720 --> 0:04:07.840 us space speaking to that. Helma and I will be 0:04:07.840 --> 0:04:10.280 on the road for the US. Yeah, we're gonna be 0:04:10.280 --> 0:04:12.119 at a and m in Texas. Maybe we can ask 0:04:12.160 --> 0:04:14.080 some of these guys ourselves. Exact, we will ask a 0:04:14.080 --> 0:04:16.159 bunch of questions. Well, actually, you know, instead of just 0:04:16.200 --> 0:04:19.120 letting other people do our work for us, right Jefferson, Yeah, 0:04:19.279 --> 0:04:23.000 coming to Dallas. Well let's talk about Malik Jefferson maybe. Yeah. Well, 0:04:23.040 --> 0:04:25.520 I mean, so you know, there's thirty guys. They're allowed 0:04:25.560 --> 0:04:27.760 to bring it, right, they can target whoever they want. 0:04:27.839 --> 0:04:30.640 You know, two years ago they famously brought in every 0:04:30.720 --> 0:04:34.360 quarterback worth talking to. Right, last year it was all 0:04:34.520 --> 0:04:38.039 dbs and pass Rusher Rusher. I feel like it seems 0:04:38.040 --> 0:04:40.160 a little more scattershot so on it like we don't 0:04:40.160 --> 0:04:42.280 have the full list, right, it's not there there yet. 0:04:42.279 --> 0:04:44.640 But you look at the you know, you've heard seven 0:04:44.720 --> 0:04:47.799 eight names. H Calvin Ridley's a name. You hear a lot. 0:04:47.920 --> 0:04:50.400 Rashaun Evans. Okay, hang on just a second, you okay? 0:04:50.760 --> 0:04:52.640 How are you? How are is our comfort level now 0:04:52.640 --> 0:04:55.120 with Calvin Ridley here? Mine? Has it changed at all? 0:04:55.160 --> 0:04:57.680 In fact, I've been a little, uh not not frustrated, 0:04:57.680 --> 0:04:59.680 maybe a little annoyed with everyone kind of trying to 0:04:59.760 --> 0:05:01.960 drop up him after the combine and everything, like, oh, 0:05:02.080 --> 0:05:04.160 you're saying, you're saying, but yeah, I mean, Dane's kind 0:05:04.200 --> 0:05:06.200 of think he's gonna be there at nineteen now, and 0:05:06.279 --> 0:05:08.719 then I'm I'm excited about that. Okay. That for me, 0:05:08.800 --> 0:05:10.400 if you can tell me Calvin Ridley's gonna be there 0:05:10.400 --> 0:05:12.800 in nineteen, then I'll just stay there and not give 0:05:12.880 --> 0:05:14.479 up a resource to go up and get a guy 0:05:14.520 --> 0:05:17.640 like Derwin or Real Quantuments or whoever. Calvin Ridley is 0:05:17.680 --> 0:05:20.960 the classic, like we're tired of talking about this guy guy, 0:05:21.160 --> 0:05:24.160 you know, like he's been a constant topic of conversation 0:05:24.279 --> 0:05:27.560 since early January and by this point in the draft process, 0:05:27.600 --> 0:05:29.800 like he's still good, right, but it's just like what 0:05:29.880 --> 0:05:31.360 else is there to say about him? And I feel 0:05:31.400 --> 0:05:34.920 like so he gets pushed down in the conversation just 0:05:34.960 --> 0:05:37.240 because there's nothing else to say. But you know, I 0:05:37.279 --> 0:05:40.120 would still I wouldn't be surprised if he's there at nineteen. 0:05:40.279 --> 0:05:42.160 But I feel like maybe he tends to get a 0:05:42.160 --> 0:05:45.440 little bit devalued just because he's been has been so 0:05:45.600 --> 0:05:48.760 thoroughly covered, you know, worried about his age. Oh well 0:05:48.800 --> 0:05:52.240 you know what I got, Bryan tell him that those 0:05:52.320 --> 0:05:54.359 Terrence Newman was too old too. He's still playing for 0:05:54.400 --> 0:05:56.280 the for the VIC that's last time I checked. My 0:05:56.640 --> 0:05:59.480 one legitimate concern with him, and it's body type. It's 0:05:59.520 --> 0:06:01.920 just the fact that his legs are so skinny. Yeah, 0:06:01.920 --> 0:06:03.919 he's one hundred eighty eight pounds guy there and go, okay, 0:06:03.960 --> 0:06:06.200 so how is one helmet to the shin that that 0:06:06.440 --> 0:06:10.160 might affect things? Yeah, but but I mean I kind 0:06:10.200 --> 0:06:12.640 of Dj Moore is not my second wide receiver, so 0:06:12.680 --> 0:06:14.400 maybe that's trut up. Maybe I'm not as high on 0:06:14.520 --> 0:06:19.760 Dj Moore kirk Kirk that we'll see him at Texas 0:06:19.800 --> 0:06:22.000 and named helmet? Last name? Is you plenty playing with 0:06:22.000 --> 0:06:24.920 the Cowboys? Cowboys? Or what's going on here? You're doing 0:06:24.920 --> 0:06:28.080 a three visits? So Ridley's a guy. Yeah, his Alabama 0:06:28.080 --> 0:06:30.839 teammate Rashaan Evans as a guy. Okay, let's talk about Evans. 0:06:31.000 --> 0:06:35.160 We're not talking about him enough, right, do you think? So? No, See, 0:06:35.160 --> 0:06:38.040 I'm I feel the opposite. And like I just said, 0:06:38.200 --> 0:06:40.760 Ridley's the classic. We're tired of talking about this guy. 0:06:41.120 --> 0:06:44.200 Evans is the classic, Like we gotta there's gotta be 0:06:44.240 --> 0:06:46.240 somebody else we can talk about that makes sense. And 0:06:46.279 --> 0:06:48.720 so he's like the late Riser, which and I think 0:06:48.720 --> 0:06:51.159 it makes sense, don't get me wrong, But you're hearing 0:06:51.240 --> 0:06:53.839 his name more and more as people are looking for 0:06:54.080 --> 0:06:56.800 options at nineteen, like, yeah, who might they draft? I 0:06:56.839 --> 0:06:59.039 think did? I think did? He kind of started off 0:06:59.120 --> 0:07:03.120 kind of slowly in the whole process, and now it's like, okay, 0:07:03.120 --> 0:07:05.120 wait a minute, we keep talking about a lot of 0:07:05.120 --> 0:07:10.440 the same names. But is Evans as opposed to I 0:07:10.480 --> 0:07:13.040 think you're gonna say another guy that's potentially gonna visit 0:07:13.120 --> 0:07:17.119 here as well from Boise Ah, yes, Laton, vander Ish Okay, 0:07:17.240 --> 0:07:21.800 Vanderish Okay. Now we're gonna get cringing over here, for sure, 0:07:21.960 --> 0:07:24.960 we're gonna get cringing, and we're gonna get the Okay, 0:07:25.080 --> 0:07:30.040 who is who would we rather have? Evans or Vanderish? Well? 0:07:30.320 --> 0:07:32.840 And that's and that's where I think a lot of 0:07:32.840 --> 0:07:36.200 people are saying, not a lot. I think this bunch here, 0:07:37.040 --> 0:07:39.800 I think that they like Vanderish a lot. I do. 0:07:40.000 --> 0:07:42.520 I think that. To me, I just have a feeling 0:07:42.520 --> 0:07:44.880 we're gonna be sitting here on draft night and we're 0:07:44.880 --> 0:07:46.960 gonna look at this thing and that and that and that. 0:07:47.040 --> 0:07:50.120 We're gonna we're gonna and the Commissioner's gonna go and 0:07:50.120 --> 0:07:52.000 and you call your shot right now. I'm calling it 0:07:52.080 --> 0:07:54.200 right draft And that was it again. I'm waiting toward 0:07:54.280 --> 0:07:57.080 the right field bleachers. I look a little like Babe 0:07:57.120 --> 0:07:59.920 Ruth done it right now, my big fat face, big port. 0:08:00.080 --> 0:08:03.800 The guy likes hot dogs, you know. I I think 0:08:03.880 --> 0:08:08.239 that to me if he visits and we're hearing rumors 0:08:08.240 --> 0:08:12.080 about private workouts and all that stuff, and you know, 0:08:12.280 --> 0:08:17.520 thirty visits and I just just deep down in my gut, 0:08:18.680 --> 0:08:21.680 I think, and it's only it's only things lining up. 0:08:21.760 --> 0:08:23.960 He's going in the first round now. And I'm not 0:08:24.040 --> 0:08:26.280 saying he should be. But if someone's taking him, that's 0:08:26.320 --> 0:08:29.520 an overreaction on your part. And that's don't get me wrong. 0:08:29.560 --> 0:08:31.160 He could he could very well be the pick. I'm 0:08:31.200 --> 0:08:32.480 not saying that. Do you want him you have to 0:08:32.480 --> 0:08:35.040 get him at nineteen because he ain't gonna be there, no, absolutely, 0:08:35.200 --> 0:08:39.960 but he should be there at fifty. It got knew. 0:08:40.000 --> 0:08:43.559 I knew he was gonna come. Let's play one year 0:08:43.600 --> 0:08:45.679 and then everyone goes crazy. You know what. There's people 0:08:45.760 --> 0:08:48.480 that are actually kind of connected. I've talked about this 0:08:49.080 --> 0:08:51.880 a little bite. People to say, hey, he's he was 0:08:51.880 --> 0:08:54.120 one hundred ninety five pounds. He was a walk on. 0:08:54.320 --> 0:08:56.719 He hate man football, hate man football. Yeah, I mean 0:08:56.720 --> 0:08:58.640 there were a lot of things that people are kind 0:08:58.679 --> 0:09:01.240 of the people that want to line up against him 0:09:01.400 --> 0:09:03.959 or lining up, they're lining up. And then there's people 0:09:04.000 --> 0:09:06.760 that are absolutely totally on board with this guy, and 0:09:06.800 --> 0:09:09.120 they're and they're and they're driving the train. I mean 0:09:09.160 --> 0:09:12.439 they're saying, oh no, this guy's six four, he's two 0:09:12.520 --> 0:09:15.720 hundred and fifty pounds, he's got a tremendous closing burst. 0:09:15.800 --> 0:09:17.440 And I mean you need to be on here with 0:09:17.520 --> 0:09:19.920 Dane and let him talk to him. Oh Dan, Dane 0:09:19.920 --> 0:09:23.040 will stay. You would swear him. Oh Dane is all 0:09:23.040 --> 0:09:25.760 over it. Now. Dan started out kind of like you. 0:09:26.679 --> 0:09:29.000 He started out kind of like you, and now he's 0:09:29.080 --> 0:09:32.600 kind of the well, I don't know, maybe we need 0:09:32.640 --> 0:09:34.520 but I just I just don't know. I don't know 0:09:34.559 --> 0:09:37.000 how you zero in on anybody when you're picking where 0:09:37.000 --> 0:09:40.160 you're picking. Oh trust No, I mean I'm gonna I 0:09:40.160 --> 0:09:42.720 will remember this conversation on draft night if it comes 0:09:42.760 --> 0:09:45.680 to that, because I will take a bite that much smarter. 0:09:45.920 --> 0:09:47.960 I will take a bite of that turkey sandwich and 0:09:48.040 --> 0:09:51.560 sip of the diet pepsia sip your tea like a frog, 0:09:51.640 --> 0:09:55.760 and I'll just kind of think that napkin, and oh, kat, 0:09:55.920 --> 0:09:58.520 would you like to talk about But I know, I mean, 0:09:58.760 --> 0:10:00.760 I think I think all right, well, let's all right, 0:10:01.520 --> 0:10:04.480 let's go let's talk about that for a minute, because 0:10:04.640 --> 0:10:06.240 we can we like I said, the list is an 0:10:06.280 --> 0:10:07.920 official we can talk about a few more guys. But 0:10:08.040 --> 0:10:09.720 that's kind of the point. I'm not going to kill 0:10:09.800 --> 0:10:13.839 this kid like I did Bosa Evans. I think so. 0:10:14.080 --> 0:10:16.520 I think so too. Let's let's just let's look at this, 0:10:16.640 --> 0:10:19.439 all right. So you start out, and this is so 0:10:19.559 --> 0:10:22.079 fascinating me about the draft process. You start out. You've 0:10:22.120 --> 0:10:24.680 got your You've got your Roquan Smiths. Yeah, you start 0:10:24.720 --> 0:10:27.679 out big, you got your Derwin James. And then you're like, 0:10:27.840 --> 0:10:30.480 that's not that's not likely, that's not likely. He's that's 0:10:30.520 --> 0:10:33.000 too high for him, that's too yeah, And all of 0:10:33.080 --> 0:10:35.920 a sudden, all right, so you're left you're left with 0:10:36.280 --> 0:10:38.440 what do we? What do we? Really? Let's let's put 0:10:38.480 --> 0:10:40.240 it out all. I couldn't get Day in the draft 0:10:40.280 --> 0:10:43.120 a guard just just now he's on vander Schli. Let's 0:10:43.200 --> 0:10:47.000 really let's zero in on four names that makes sense. 0:10:47.120 --> 0:10:49.800 That that seem realistic. And I think the linebackers are 0:10:49.800 --> 0:10:52.320 two of them. Yeah, but they have to because nineteen 0:10:53.040 --> 0:10:55.920 nineteen seems nineteen seems high for both of them. But 0:10:56.160 --> 0:11:00.839 beggars can't be choosers when you're picking, uh Ridley, I 0:11:00.960 --> 0:11:02.959 think you probably put him in there. Yeah, sure, and 0:11:03.040 --> 0:11:05.520 I and we should be pumped about that. No, no, right, 0:11:05.600 --> 0:11:08.079 no argument here is everyone's still happy with that. Oh no, 0:11:08.160 --> 0:11:10.599 I'm happy, all right. Word on the street is that 0:11:10.679 --> 0:11:15.120 the Cowboys have signed Deonta Thompson. Yeah, so you kind 0:11:15.120 --> 0:11:18.439 of a lot like the Joe Thomas and you've probably 0:11:18.520 --> 0:11:21.839 you've addressed your wide receiver corps in some situation. But 0:11:21.920 --> 0:11:24.600 I don't think that would come remotely close to stopping 0:11:24.679 --> 0:11:27.920 them from draft. No, not at all. No. Um, all right, 0:11:27.960 --> 0:11:30.000 so that you got your three and then you probably 0:11:30.040 --> 0:11:34.280 thinking guard, Oh sure, Hernandez and Win. Yeah, we've beaten 0:11:34.320 --> 0:11:35.839 them into the ground. We have I don't need to 0:11:35.880 --> 0:11:38.640 do that. Tuck you into James Daniels into that mix. Sure, 0:11:38.679 --> 0:11:42.040 if you want to throw him in there. You know what, Hey, 0:11:42.240 --> 0:11:44.319 this man, this man did a mock draft and it's 0:11:44.360 --> 0:11:46.719 coming up on in our magazine here. Oh nice, and 0:11:46.840 --> 0:11:49.199 our magazine's coming up. I mocked him at twelve. He 0:11:49.280 --> 0:11:51.880 mocked him at twelve. He's got a giant's trade back 0:11:51.960 --> 0:11:56.520 and him take, yeah, how about that? Hey, well, don't 0:11:56.559 --> 0:11:59.560 get weird with it. That's my don't get my mom Oh, 0:11:59.600 --> 0:12:01.760 I'm just got to give people to buy the magazine, 0:12:01.960 --> 0:12:05.320 absolutely to buy it. For his mock trapped alone. I guess, 0:12:05.440 --> 0:12:08.559 my man, is there something we're forgetting? I mean, you know, 0:12:08.679 --> 0:12:12.640 I love DJs, that's realistic. Is there a position we're forgetting? 0:12:12.720 --> 0:12:15.000 KT You're kind of you're you're kind of the outlier 0:12:15.080 --> 0:12:17.800 here in I mean, it sounds, it sounds crazy, and 0:12:17.960 --> 0:12:21.600 I'm I'm number one and team don't don't move people 0:12:21.640 --> 0:12:25.520 around anymore. Let's let players be what they are telling me. 0:12:25.600 --> 0:12:28.120 Mike mcglinchie's there at nineteen, who is the number one 0:12:28.160 --> 0:12:30.080 tackle in the draft. I would take him and move 0:12:30.200 --> 0:12:32.640 Lele Collins to guard, and I would go against everything 0:12:32.679 --> 0:12:34.920 I said about moving players around, because the number one 0:12:34.960 --> 0:12:37.040 tackle in the draft is there for you. I like 0:12:37.200 --> 0:12:39.400 Mike mcglinchiy a lot. I think he can play bonus 0:12:39.480 --> 0:12:41.840 points for thinking outside the box. Oh no, this Catt'll 0:12:41.880 --> 0:12:43.520 do that. He's a great idea he is. He is 0:12:43.600 --> 0:12:46.280 weird and he thinks outside the box. There's two things 0:12:46.320 --> 0:12:47.840 I love about it. So you get the number one 0:12:47.920 --> 0:12:51.320 tackle and he's an owner of the man my dad 0:12:51.480 --> 0:12:53.480 is you move your tackle. I could live with that. 0:12:53.679 --> 0:12:56.120 What if? Well, speaking of the Green Bay Packers, I 0:12:56.200 --> 0:12:59.120 know who you love? Are we not talking enough about 0:12:59.200 --> 0:13:02.880 Harold Landry? You know what? And I would take him 0:13:02.920 --> 0:13:04.959 at nineteen if he's there. In fact, I would love that. 0:13:05.080 --> 0:13:08.439 I would love that more than any of those linebackers 0:13:08.520 --> 0:13:11.679 we talked about. I would like Harold Landry more than 0:13:11.920 --> 0:13:16.160 Isaiah Wynn, will Hernandez. Okay, even the guard Jan I 0:13:16.240 --> 0:13:18.920 mean gets Harold Landry. I think he's closer to the 0:13:18.960 --> 0:13:22.960 twenty sixteen player than Yeah, like if if you if 0:13:23.000 --> 0:13:26.120 a guy's got a messed up ankle, his ability to 0:13:26.240 --> 0:13:28.839 rush the passer is going to be compromised, Like that's 0:13:28.960 --> 0:13:31.880 just what happened, yea, And but they try to play 0:13:31.960 --> 0:13:33.800 through it. That guy. Give the kid credit? Yeah, and 0:13:33.920 --> 0:13:36.520 everything you're saying, right, tell me about his measurables and 0:13:36.600 --> 0:13:38.559 stuff like that. No, No, who is he? Who is? 0:13:38.640 --> 0:13:41.560 He looks a lot his his profile looks a lot 0:13:41.640 --> 0:13:43.760 like T. J. Watt see it. I'm saying a lot. 0:13:43.920 --> 0:13:46.000 But he puts his hand in the ground. He does, okay, 0:13:46.200 --> 0:13:49.240 played in some four three looks as well. But I'm 0:13:49.320 --> 0:13:52.000 with you on the way he looks. I mean, if 0:13:52.200 --> 0:13:54.640 if the I just I don't buy that he's saying, 0:13:54.679 --> 0:13:57.640 they won't they will, they won't tag him because of 0:13:57.760 --> 0:14:01.000 the measurables. I just wonder why that's why. And to me, 0:14:01.120 --> 0:14:04.520 that's a problem then, because the thing last year was 0:14:04.720 --> 0:14:06.680 that T J. Watt doesn't put his hand in the ground, 0:14:06.760 --> 0:14:09.120 and that's it. It's a project, all right, the project. 0:14:09.200 --> 0:14:11.080 Harold Ladry is a sixteen and a half sat guy 0:14:11.120 --> 0:14:13.319 in twenty sixteen. He's not a project. I have a 0:14:13.520 --> 0:14:16.959 I have a hard time adjusting to the concept that, 0:14:17.120 --> 0:14:18.800 like they don't think they could teach a guy to 0:14:18.840 --> 0:14:20.680 put his hand in the dirt, Like that's the only 0:14:20.760 --> 0:14:23.920 problem too, are like, that's crazy to me? So is 0:14:23.920 --> 0:14:26.360 that your honey badger argument too? Yeah, it is, which 0:14:26.360 --> 0:14:28.120 we'll get into that, get into that. Yeah, we'll get 0:14:28.120 --> 0:14:30.240 into that. But well, actually no, but that's a great 0:14:30.440 --> 0:14:32.280 it's a great tie in to bring it back to 0:14:32.360 --> 0:14:36.000 these thirty guys because for instance, okay, we know Rashaan 0:14:36.040 --> 0:14:39.320 Evans is coming, right, we know Layton vander esh is coming, right, 0:14:39.640 --> 0:14:43.160 we know Will Hernandez is coming. These are probably Allen 0:14:43.240 --> 0:14:47.360 right there. These are probably all guys that you got 0:14:47.440 --> 0:14:50.280 a draft at nineteen R Yeah, i'd hope unless there's 0:14:50.320 --> 0:14:52.400 a trade back. But for the sakes of this, we'll 0:14:52.440 --> 0:14:56.360 just say nineteen. We don't know if Harold Landry is 0:14:56.400 --> 0:14:59.080 coming or Marcus Davenport, and that's we should have that 0:14:59.160 --> 0:15:01.280 next week. That's what make this list so interesting is 0:15:01.800 --> 0:15:03.880 when the full list is out, you're gonna have a 0:15:04.000 --> 0:15:07.880 pretty good idea of what they're targeting at nineteen because, 0:15:08.120 --> 0:15:12.160 as we famously repeat every year, uh, the only first 0:15:12.240 --> 0:15:15.440 round pick in the last decade that didn't visit the 0:15:15.560 --> 0:15:17.720 facility during the lead up to the draft was Moa 0:15:18.640 --> 0:15:21.080 and it didn't work out that well. Yeah. And and 0:15:21.360 --> 0:15:24.000 just you know, for anybody at home that maybe doesn't 0:15:24.000 --> 0:15:27.720 follow along every year, Um, it's just important in general, 0:15:27.840 --> 0:15:29.880 down the down the whole board of the draft. I mean, 0:15:29.960 --> 0:15:31.920 these these are the guys that they want to draft. 0:15:32.000 --> 0:15:34.400 They you know, if they're bringing you in, they really 0:15:34.440 --> 0:15:36.840 want to draft you. Taco was a thirty visit last year. 0:15:37.200 --> 0:15:39.720 Cheetoh was a thirty visit last year. Xavier Woods was 0:15:39.800 --> 0:15:42.800 a thirty visit. Zeke and Dak were both thirty visits 0:15:43.080 --> 0:15:45.440 the years they were drafted. So these are you know, 0:15:45.640 --> 0:15:48.080 if you're coming here, right, there's a better one of 0:15:48.120 --> 0:15:50.320 those guys. It's a better than good chance that the 0:15:50.360 --> 0:15:52.200 Cowboys are. And you like the idea though, Dallas Day 0:15:52.240 --> 0:15:54.640 you get some help with that, right Yeah, Corland Sutton's 0:15:54.640 --> 0:15:58.120 a guy. Yeah, it's honestly, it's like the best cheat 0:15:58.200 --> 0:16:01.480 code ever because there's so I found this out. Yeah, 0:16:01.480 --> 0:16:04.360 did you know Josh Jackson's from Dallas. Yeah, so theoretic, 0:16:04.440 --> 0:16:08.240 and well so is Malik Malik Jefferson. Yeah. So the 0:16:08.280 --> 0:16:10.960 areas guys that you know, you can you don't have 0:16:11.120 --> 0:16:13.120 to do thirty visits with them, have them come to 0:16:13.240 --> 0:16:15.720 Dallas days. It's like Dallas and then the Florida teams 0:16:15.760 --> 0:16:19.320 and night oh no Miami. Yeah, Miami's honestly is kind 0:16:19.360 --> 0:16:21.680 of unfair, Like, yeah, the packers are not too happy. 0:16:22.960 --> 0:16:25.280 Are just like, what the hell are y'all talking about 0:16:25.320 --> 0:16:28.960 up here? Not not anybody, but but like I said, 0:16:29.000 --> 0:16:30.880 I think you're you're you make a great point about 0:16:30.880 --> 0:16:33.600 those thirty visits, you know, and some of the names. 0:16:33.840 --> 0:16:38.000 That's it's the most important information. Like if if you 0:16:38.200 --> 0:16:40.800 only could know one thing in the draft process, like 0:16:41.080 --> 0:16:42.680 look at the names of the thirty visits. Oh if 0:16:42.680 --> 0:16:44.280 you if you wanted to and you got the list 0:16:44.320 --> 0:16:46.920 of the thirty names, just study those thirty guys. Yeah, 0:16:47.040 --> 0:16:48.880 not that, I mean that might give you an idea 0:16:49.160 --> 0:16:51.160 exactly what you said, give you an idea of who 0:16:51.240 --> 0:16:54.640 potentially because it's not all first round guys on there. No, 0:16:55.000 --> 0:16:57.360 there's some there's some guys we've heard, you know, Naheim 0:16:57.440 --> 0:17:00.200 Hines then got back out of North Carolina, stay like 0:17:00.320 --> 0:17:03.160 and they do that every year too. Um. I remember, 0:17:03.160 --> 0:17:05.240 you know, and maybe it's not even a draft pick. 0:17:05.240 --> 0:17:08.880 I remember who's the who's the nose tackle? Rodney co Yeah, 0:17:09.160 --> 0:17:10.880 he was a Dallas Day guy I think a few 0:17:10.960 --> 0:17:13.960 years ago. Sure. But when it's all said and done, 0:17:14.119 --> 0:17:16.800 you know, between draft picks and undrafted free agents, they'll 0:17:16.840 --> 0:17:20.440 probably add like eighteen players, maybe twenty, and like half 0:17:20.480 --> 0:17:22.520 of those guys will be names that you saw on 0:17:22.640 --> 0:17:25.320 these lists. Maybe more than that. All right, let me 0:17:25.359 --> 0:17:27.119 ask you something real quick. I kind of have an 0:17:27.200 --> 0:17:30.440 idea where he's going. He's he's willing to go he's 0:17:30.440 --> 0:17:33.360 going right for the right, for the right guy. Are 0:17:33.400 --> 0:17:36.840 you willing to go No, I'm willing to go at 0:17:36.880 --> 0:17:39.440 the price of eighty one. You're not willing to go 0:17:39.520 --> 0:17:41.879 at fifth, you know what? You know where I'm so 0:17:42.040 --> 0:17:44.160 that means that you're only willing to go as high 0:17:44.160 --> 0:17:46.359 as like sixteen or seventeen. I have a feeling his 0:17:46.480 --> 0:17:49.400 board in the second round looks pretty good. My second board, yeah, 0:17:49.440 --> 0:17:51.680 my second round board looks really good. And here's also 0:17:51.720 --> 0:17:54.040 what I would prefer doing then than going up because 0:17:54.080 --> 0:17:55.680 at nineteen, I do feel like you're gonna get a 0:17:55.720 --> 0:17:58.760 really good player. Don't say don't say trade back. Uh No, 0:17:58.960 --> 0:18:00.919 I'm gonna do what we did a few years ago 0:18:00.960 --> 0:18:04.800 with DeMarcus Lawrence. And if you like someone you're at fifty, 0:18:04.840 --> 0:18:06.800 and you like someone sitting there at thirty eight or 0:18:06.840 --> 0:18:09.000 thirty nine or forty or whatever it takes, then put 0:18:09.080 --> 0:18:10.960 eighty one in there and maybe another fourth round or 0:18:11.000 --> 0:18:12.720 whatever you have to do, and get up there and 0:18:12.760 --> 0:18:14.920 get a guy you like that's not gonna get to 0:18:14.960 --> 0:18:18.040 you at fifty. I don't hate that idea, but I 0:18:18.400 --> 0:18:23.199 just did the idea of nineteen for me personally. If 0:18:23.240 --> 0:18:26.159 it's Roquan. Yeah, let's move, let's go do it, you know, 0:18:26.280 --> 0:18:29.040 because I think he's that special. I think Derwin's really good. 0:18:29.080 --> 0:18:31.160 I love Derwin James. I just don't want to give 0:18:31.200 --> 0:18:33.240 up pick fifty. What about would you trade up for 0:18:33.320 --> 0:18:36.560 Ridley if it looks like he's not gonna last? Yeah, 0:18:36.600 --> 0:18:38.720 I'd give up the third rounder to get Ridley? Okay, No, 0:18:39.000 --> 0:18:41.440 you know what? Now you got me wafflin. Because there's 0:18:41.440 --> 0:18:44.000 about a million wide receivers. Yeah, they're not all as 0:18:44.040 --> 0:18:50.480 good as so I will say ness, yo, just a 0:18:50.560 --> 0:18:53.280 domination of yes, and I was I did not pick up. 0:18:53.560 --> 0:18:55.520 Let me ask you this. Okay, yeah, on the draft, 0:18:55.560 --> 0:18:58.200 on the Draft show, we don't waffle. So you're gonna 0:18:58.200 --> 0:19:00.920 go or not. I've got six seconds round wide receivers. 0:19:01.320 --> 0:19:03.960 I've got eight third round wide receivers brought us. I 0:19:04.040 --> 0:19:06.000 got eight fourth round wide receivers. I'm gonna get a 0:19:06.000 --> 0:19:09.280 wide receiver later. Yeah. I'm not moving well, okay, sitting 0:19:09.320 --> 0:19:11.159