1 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:07,880 Speaker 1: He's the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show. Cowboys on 2 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:11,720 Speaker 1: your war room for in center news and draft analysis 3 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 1: from deep within the confines of Cowboys Headquarters at the 4 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:20,080 Speaker 1: Star in Fresco, Dallas Cowboys Select Bozikiel Elliott and now 5 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 1: your hosts Dane Brugler, David Hellman and Brian brought us. Well, 6 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 1: we welcome you to the SWBC Mortgage Studios. You have 7 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 1: the Draft Show on a Thursday morning as we inch 8 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 1: closer to the end of April and the twenty eighteen 9 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:40,839 Speaker 1: NFL Draft which will take place and at the stadium 10 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 1: at AT and T in Arlington. We've got the normal 11 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 1: set of guys, with the exception of one. Dane Burglar 12 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 1: is out today and but he should be back with 13 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 1: us next Monday. Kevin kt Turner from one oh five 14 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 1: three the Fan in the Ben and Skin Show, one 15 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 1: of my scouting buddies, is here with us. Katie. Welcome 16 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:05,480 Speaker 1: back to the Fray. We appreciate you showing up. Thank you. 17 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 1: This is episode three for me this year. Yeah, it's 18 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 1: been a good year for draft showing for me. Yeah. 19 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 1: These are our highest rated shows. When we have you 20 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 1: on by far, you good like a good spot duty 21 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 1: linebacker like Joe Thomas. Joe Thomas, I was the Kyle 22 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 1: Wilber back in the day, a special teams guy as well. 23 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 1: I can do a little bit everything everything. But we're 24 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 1: five weeks away, man, Yeah, five weeks crazy. This is 25 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 1: coming fast. It is coming fast, and I and I 26 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 1: it's we're starting to see, you know, we're winding through 27 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 1: these pro days as well. Got Dallas Day stuff that 28 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 1: will happen on April sixth, where the local kids will 29 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 1: come in and work out. Cowboys have an opportunity to 30 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 1: bring them in here to Ford Center to work him 31 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 1: out on the field. We've also got the twenty twenty 32 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 1: thirty visits coming up as well, and we're starting to 33 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 1: kind of hear some names of guys. You know, it's 34 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 1: a great thing about social media and things like that. 35 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 1: You can reach out to these kids and kind of 36 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 1: learn where they're going to visit in places, you know, 37 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 1: with the fountain. The receiver from Northern Iowa that we 38 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 1: watched the other night did not go to the combine, 39 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 1: but he's got like seven or eight visits already lined up. 40 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 1: And I feel sorry for that kid because every one 41 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 1: of those visits is gonna be a physical he's gonna get. 42 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 1: He's gonna get eight physical is what he's gonna get. 43 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 1: And you know, here's a guy kat third round type 44 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:26,519 Speaker 1: of a player on you know, if you've talked about 45 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 1: wide receivers, you know, Dane Bugler's talked about him as 46 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:32,519 Speaker 1: being a guy. Hey you need to check a check 47 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 1: out my Northern Iowa wide receiver fountain and so you know. 48 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 1: But yeah, he's gonna have seven or eight visits coming up, 49 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 1: and every one of them are going to be a physical. 50 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 1: That poor guy blood work going on. He's always up 51 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 1: to twelve. I saw, I don't know, you have a check? 52 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 1: Should they should bring him to the medical recheck is 53 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 1: what they should do. That. They should absolutely bring him 54 00:02:56,880 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 1: there and let him take one physical and let all 55 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 1: the teams seem right there is what they should do. 56 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 1: Maybe they are, but it sounds like to me, if 57 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 1: they don't do that, he's gonna have it. I want 58 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 1: to get into that though. I kind of want to 59 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 1: get because David I think we have a little bit 60 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:12,799 Speaker 1: of an idea we're gonna get the thirty visits. I'm 61 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 1: going on a draft show. We'll kind of go through 62 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 1: some guys. We'll get a hint, but some of the 63 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 1: guys go through some of the guys. I'm trying to 64 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 1: get a direction here, maybe early Katie, that maybe the 65 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 1: Cowboys might be looking at here. It's it's an interesting 66 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 1: time of year because I mean, working here, you know, 67 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 1: at the Mothership, we tend to have an idea of 68 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 1: what's going on before everybody else, right, but this is 69 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 1: one of those situations where we're the last to know, 70 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 1: you know, because these guys aren't try and keep us 71 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 1: as the last well, well, these guys aren't in the building. 72 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 1: And obviously the scouting department likes to try to keep 73 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 1: some secrets. Yeah they do. But then these guys go 74 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 1: out to their pro days and their workouts and they 75 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 1: talk to members of the media and I mean, all 76 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 1: you got to do is ask them you're working out 77 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 1: with the Cowboys. They're like, yeah, I gotta visit set 78 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 1: up with the Cowboys and that, and then it's on 79 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 1: Twitter and it's out there, so you know, we're not 80 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 1: the ones gathering that information. But it gets back to 81 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 1: us space speaking to that. Helma and I will be 82 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 1: on the road for the US. Yeah, we're gonna be 83 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:12,119 Speaker 1: at a and m in Texas. Maybe we can ask 84 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 1: some of these guys ourselves. Exact, we will ask a 85 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:16,159 Speaker 1: bunch of questions. Well, actually, you know, instead of just 86 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 1: letting other people do our work for us, right Jefferson, Yeah, 87 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 1: coming to Dallas. Well let's talk about Malik Jefferson maybe. Yeah. Well, 88 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 1: I mean, so you know, there's thirty guys. They're allowed 89 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 1: to bring it, right, they can target whoever they want. 90 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 1: You know, two years ago they famously brought in every 91 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 1: quarterback worth talking to. Right, last year it was all 92 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:38,039 Speaker 1: dbs and pass Rusher Rusher. I feel like it seems 93 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:40,160 Speaker 1: a little more scattershot so on it like we don't 94 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:42,280 Speaker 1: have the full list, right, it's not there there yet. 95 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 1: But you look at the you know, you've heard seven 96 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:47,799 Speaker 1: eight names. H Calvin Ridley's a name. You hear a lot. 97 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 1: Rashaun Evans. Okay, hang on just a second, you okay? 98 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 1: How are you? How are is our comfort level now 99 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 1: with Calvin Ridley here? Mine? Has it changed at all? 100 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 1: In fact, I've been a little, uh not not frustrated, 101 00:04:57,680 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 1: maybe a little annoyed with everyone kind of trying to 102 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 1: drop up him after the combine and everything, like, oh, 103 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:04,160 Speaker 1: you're saying, you're saying, but yeah, I mean, Dane's kind 104 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 1: of think he's gonna be there at nineteen now, and 105 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:08,719 Speaker 1: then I'm I'm excited about that. Okay. That for me, 106 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 1: if you can tell me Calvin Ridley's gonna be there 107 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 1: in nineteen, then I'll just stay there and not give 108 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:14,479 Speaker 1: up a resource to go up and get a guy 109 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 1: like Derwin or Real Quantuments or whoever. Calvin Ridley is 110 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 1: the classic, like we're tired of talking about this guy guy, 111 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:24,160 Speaker 1: you know, like he's been a constant topic of conversation 112 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 1: since early January and by this point in the draft process, 113 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 1: like he's still good, right, but it's just like what 114 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 1: else is there to say about him? And I feel 115 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:34,920 Speaker 1: like so he gets pushed down in the conversation just 116 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 1: because there's nothing else to say. But you know, I 117 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 1: would still I wouldn't be surprised if he's there at nineteen. 118 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:42,160 Speaker 1: But I feel like maybe he tends to get a 119 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 1: little bit devalued just because he's been has been so 120 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 1: thoroughly covered, you know, worried about his age. Oh well 121 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 1: you know what I got, Bryan tell him that those 122 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:54,359 Speaker 1: Terrence Newman was too old too. He's still playing for 123 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:56,280 Speaker 1: the for the VIC that's last time I checked. My 124 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 1: one legitimate concern with him, and it's body type. It's 125 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 1: just the fact that his legs are so skinny. Yeah, 126 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:03,919 Speaker 1: he's one hundred eighty eight pounds guy there and go, okay, 127 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 1: so how is one helmet to the shin that that 128 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:10,160 Speaker 1: might affect things? Yeah, but but I mean I kind 129 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 1: of Dj Moore is not my second wide receiver, so 130 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 1: maybe that's trut up. Maybe I'm not as high on 131 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 1: Dj Moore kirk Kirk that we'll see him at Texas 132 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 1: and named helmet? Last name? Is you plenty playing with 133 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 1: the Cowboys? Cowboys? Or what's going on here? You're doing 134 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 1: a three visits? So Ridley's a guy. Yeah, his Alabama 135 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:30,839 Speaker 1: teammate Rashaan Evans as a guy. Okay, let's talk about Evans. 136 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:35,160 Speaker 1: We're not talking about him enough, right, do you think? So? No, See, 137 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:38,040 Speaker 1: I'm I feel the opposite. And like I just said, 138 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 1: Ridley's the classic. We're tired of talking about this guy. 139 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 1: Evans is the classic, Like we gotta there's gotta be 140 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 1: somebody else we can talk about that makes sense. And 141 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:48,720 Speaker 1: so he's like the late Riser, which and I think 142 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:51,159 Speaker 1: it makes sense, don't get me wrong, But you're hearing 143 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:53,839 Speaker 1: his name more and more as people are looking for 144 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 1: options at nineteen, like, yeah, who might they draft? I 145 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:59,039 Speaker 1: think did? I think did? He kind of started off 146 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 1: kind of slowly in the whole process, and now it's like, okay, 147 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 1: wait a minute, we keep talking about a lot of 148 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 1: the same names. But is Evans as opposed to I 149 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 1: think you're gonna say another guy that's potentially gonna visit 150 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:17,119 Speaker 1: here as well from Boise Ah, yes, Laton, vander Ish Okay, 151 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 1: Vanderish Okay. Now we're gonna get cringing over here, for sure, 152 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 1: we're gonna get cringing, and we're gonna get the Okay, 153 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 1: who is who would we rather have? Evans or Vanderish? Well? 154 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 1: And that's and that's where I think a lot of 155 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 1: people are saying, not a lot. I think this bunch here, 156 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 1: I think that they like Vanderish a lot. I do. 157 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 1: I think that. To me, I just have a feeling 158 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 1: we're gonna be sitting here on draft night and we're 159 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 1: gonna look at this thing and that and that and that. 160 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 1: We're gonna we're gonna and the Commissioner's gonna go and 161 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 1: and you call your shot right now. I'm calling it 162 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 1: right draft And that was it again. I'm waiting toward 163 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 1: the right field bleachers. I look a little like Babe 164 00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: Ruth done it right now, my big fat face, big port. 165 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 1: The guy likes hot dogs, you know. I I think 166 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:08,239 Speaker 1: that to me if he visits and we're hearing rumors 167 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 1: about private workouts and all that stuff, and you know, 168 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 1: thirty visits and I just just deep down in my gut, 169 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 1: I think, and it's only it's only things lining up. 170 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 1: He's going in the first round now. And I'm not 171 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 1: saying he should be. But if someone's taking him, that's 172 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 1: an overreaction on your part. And that's don't get me wrong. 173 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 1: He could he could very well be the pick. I'm 174 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 1: not saying that. Do you want him you have to 175 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 1: get him at nineteen because he ain't gonna be there, no, absolutely, 176 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:39,960 Speaker 1: but he should be there at fifty. It got knew. 177 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:43,559 Speaker 1: I knew he was gonna come. Let's play one year 178 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:45,679 Speaker 1: and then everyone goes crazy. You know what. There's people 179 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 1: that are actually kind of connected. I've talked about this 180 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 1: a little bite. People to say, hey, he's he was 181 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 1: one hundred ninety five pounds. He was a walk on. 182 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:56,719 Speaker 1: He hate man football, hate man football. Yeah, I mean 183 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 1: there were a lot of things that people are kind 184 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 1: of the people that want to line up against him 185 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:03,959 Speaker 1: or lining up, they're lining up. And then there's people 186 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 1: that are absolutely totally on board with this guy, and 187 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 1: they're and they're and they're driving the train. I mean 188 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:12,439 Speaker 1: they're saying, oh no, this guy's six four, he's two 189 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty pounds, he's got a tremendous closing burst. 190 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 1: And I mean you need to be on here with 191 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 1: Dane and let him talk to him. Oh Dan, Dane 192 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 1: will stay. You would swear him. Oh Dane is all 193 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 1: over it. Now. Dan started out kind of like you. 194 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 1: He started out kind of like you, and now he's 195 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 1: kind of the well, I don't know, maybe we need 196 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 1: but I just I just don't know. I don't know 197 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 1: how you zero in on anybody when you're picking where 198 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 1: you're picking. Oh trust No, I mean I'm gonna I 199 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 1: will remember this conversation on draft night if it comes 200 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:45,680 Speaker 1: to that, because I will take a bite that much smarter. 201 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 1: I will take a bite of that turkey sandwich and 202 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:51,560 Speaker 1: sip of the diet pepsia sip your tea like a frog, 203 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 1: and I'll just kind of think that napkin, and oh, kat, 204 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 1: would you like to talk about But I know, I mean, 205 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 1: I think I think all right, well, let's all right, 206 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 1: let's go let's talk about that for a minute, because 207 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 1: we can we like I said, the list is an 208 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 1: official we can talk about a few more guys. But 209 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 1: that's kind of the point. I'm not going to kill 210 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:13,839 Speaker 1: this kid like I did Bosa Evans. I think so. 211 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 1: I think so too. Let's let's just let's look at this, 212 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:19,439 Speaker 1: all right. So you start out, and this is so 213 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:22,079 Speaker 1: fascinating me about the draft process. You start out. You've 214 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:24,680 Speaker 1: got your You've got your Roquan Smiths. Yeah, you start 215 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:27,679 Speaker 1: out big, you got your Derwin James. And then you're like, 216 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 1: that's not that's not likely, that's not likely. He's that's 217 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 1: too high for him, that's too yeah, And all of 218 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 1: a sudden, all right, so you're left you're left with 219 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:38,440 Speaker 1: what do we? What do we? Really? Let's let's put 220 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 1: it out all. I couldn't get Day in the draft 221 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 1: a guard just just now he's on vander Schli. Let's 222 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 1: really let's zero in on four names that makes sense. 223 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 1: That that seem realistic. And I think the linebackers are 224 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:52,320 Speaker 1: two of them. Yeah, but they have to because nineteen 225 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 1: nineteen seems nineteen seems high for both of them. But 226 00:10:56,160 --> 00:11:00,839 Speaker 1: beggars can't be choosers when you're picking, uh Ridley, I 227 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:02,959 Speaker 1: think you probably put him in there. Yeah, sure, and 228 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 1: I and we should be pumped about that. No, no, right, 229 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:08,079 Speaker 1: no argument here is everyone's still happy with that. Oh no, 230 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:10,599 Speaker 1: I'm happy, all right. Word on the street is that 231 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 1: the Cowboys have signed Deonta Thompson. Yeah, so you kind 232 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:18,439 Speaker 1: of a lot like the Joe Thomas and you've probably 233 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:21,839 Speaker 1: you've addressed your wide receiver corps in some situation. But 234 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 1: I don't think that would come remotely close to stopping 235 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 1: them from draft. No, not at all. No. Um, all right, 236 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 1: so that you got your three and then you probably 237 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 1: thinking guard, Oh sure, Hernandez and Win. Yeah, we've beaten 238 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:35,839 Speaker 1: them into the ground. We have I don't need to 239 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 1: do that. Tuck you into James Daniels into that mix. Sure, 240 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 1: if you want to throw him in there. You know what, Hey, 241 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:44,319 Speaker 1: this man, this man did a mock draft and it's 242 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:46,719 Speaker 1: coming up on in our magazine here. Oh nice, and 243 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:49,199 Speaker 1: our magazine's coming up. I mocked him at twelve. He 244 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 1: mocked him at twelve. He's got a giant's trade back 245 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 1: and him take, yeah, how about that? Hey, well, don't 246 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 1: get weird with it. That's my don't get my mom Oh, 247 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 1: I'm just got to give people to buy the magazine, 248 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:05,320 Speaker 1: absolutely to buy it. For his mock trapped alone. I guess, 249 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:08,559 Speaker 1: my man, is there something we're forgetting? I mean, you know, 250 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 1: I love DJs, that's realistic. Is there a position we're forgetting? 251 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 1: KT You're kind of you're you're kind of the outlier 252 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 1: here in I mean, it sounds, it sounds crazy, and 253 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 1: I'm I'm number one and team don't don't move people 254 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 1: around anymore. Let's let players be what they are telling me. 255 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 1: Mike mcglinchie's there at nineteen, who is the number one 256 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:30,080 Speaker 1: tackle in the draft. I would take him and move 257 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 1: Lele Collins to guard, and I would go against everything 258 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 1: I said about moving players around, because the number one 259 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 1: tackle in the draft is there for you. I like 260 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 1: Mike mcglinchiy a lot. I think he can play bonus 261 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 1: points for thinking outside the box. Oh no, this Catt'll 262 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 1: do that. He's a great idea he is. He is 263 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 1: weird and he thinks outside the box. There's two things 264 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 1: I love about it. So you get the number one 265 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:51,320 Speaker 1: tackle and he's an owner of the man my dad 266 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 1: is you move your tackle. I could live with that. 267 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 1: What if? Well, speaking of the Green Bay Packers, I 268 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 1: know who you love? Are we not talking enough about 269 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 1: Harold Landry? You know what? And I would take him 270 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:04,959 Speaker 1: at nineteen if he's there. In fact, I would love that. 271 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:08,439 Speaker 1: I would love that more than any of those linebackers 272 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:11,679 Speaker 1: we talked about. I would like Harold Landry more than 273 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 1: Isaiah Wynn, will Hernandez. Okay, even the guard Jan I 274 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 1: mean gets Harold Landry. I think he's closer to the 275 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:22,960 Speaker 1: twenty sixteen player than Yeah, like if if you if 276 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 1: a guy's got a messed up ankle, his ability to 277 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:28,839 Speaker 1: rush the passer is going to be compromised, Like that's 278 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 1: just what happened, yea, And but they try to play 279 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 1: through it. That guy. Give the kid credit? Yeah, and 280 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 1: everything you're saying, right, tell me about his measurables and 281 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:38,559 Speaker 1: stuff like that. No, No, who is he? Who is? 282 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:41,560 Speaker 1: He looks a lot his his profile looks a lot 283 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 1: like T. J. Watt see it. I'm saying a lot. 284 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 1: But he puts his hand in the ground. He does, okay, 285 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 1: played in some four three looks as well. But I'm 286 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 1: with you on the way he looks. I mean, if 287 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 1: if the I just I don't buy that he's saying, 288 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 1: they won't they will, they won't tag him because of 289 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 1: the measurables. I just wonder why that's why. And to me, 290 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 1: that's a problem then, because the thing last year was 291 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:06,680 Speaker 1: that T J. Watt doesn't put his hand in the ground, 292 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 1: and that's it. It's a project, all right, the project. 293 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:11,080 Speaker 1: Harold Ladry is a sixteen and a half sat guy 294 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:13,319 Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen. He's not a project. I have a 295 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:16,959 Speaker 1: I have a hard time adjusting to the concept that, 296 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 1: like they don't think they could teach a guy to 297 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 1: put his hand in the dirt, Like that's the only 298 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 1: problem too, are like, that's crazy to me? So is 299 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 1: that your honey badger argument too? Yeah, it is, which 300 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 1: we'll get into that, get into that. Yeah, we'll get 301 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 1: into that. But well, actually no, but that's a great 302 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 1: it's a great tie in to bring it back to 303 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 1: these thirty guys because for instance, okay, we know Rashaan 304 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 1: Evans is coming, right, we know Layton vander esh is coming, right, 305 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 1: we know Will Hernandez is coming. These are probably Allen 306 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 1: right there. These are probably all guys that you got 307 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 1: a draft at nineteen R Yeah, i'd hope unless there's 308 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 1: a trade back. But for the sakes of this, we'll 309 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 1: just say nineteen. We don't know if Harold Landry is 310 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 1: coming or Marcus Davenport, and that's we should have that 311 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 1: next week. That's what make this list so interesting is 312 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 1: when the full list is out, you're gonna have a 313 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 1: pretty good idea of what they're targeting at nineteen because, 314 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 1: as we famously repeat every year, uh, the only first 315 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 1: round pick in the last decade that didn't visit the 316 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 1: facility during the lead up to the draft was Moa 317 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 1: and it didn't work out that well. Yeah. And and 318 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 1: just you know, for anybody at home that maybe doesn't 319 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 1: follow along every year, Um, it's just important in general, 320 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 1: down the down the whole board of the draft. I mean, 321 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 1: these these are the guys that they want to draft. 322 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 1: They you know, if they're bringing you in, they really 323 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 1: want to draft you. Taco was a thirty visit last year. 324 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 1: Cheetoh was a thirty visit last year. Xavier Woods was 325 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 1: a thirty visit. Zeke and Dak were both thirty visits 326 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 1: the years they were drafted. So these are you know, 327 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 1: if you're coming here, right, there's a better one of 328 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 1: those guys. It's a better than good chance that the 329 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 1: Cowboys are. And you like the idea though, Dallas Day 330 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 1: you get some help with that, right Yeah, Corland Sutton's 331 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 1: a guy. Yeah, it's honestly, it's like the best cheat 332 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 1: code ever because there's so I found this out. Yeah, 333 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 1: did you know Josh Jackson's from Dallas. Yeah, so theoretic, 334 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 1: and well so is Malik Malik Jefferson. Yeah. So the 335 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 1: areas guys that you know, you can you don't have 336 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 1: to do thirty visits with them, have them come to 337 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 1: Dallas days. It's like Dallas and then the Florida teams 338 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 1: and night oh no Miami. Yeah, Miami's honestly is kind 339 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 1: of unfair, Like, yeah, the packers are not too happy. 340 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 1: Are just like, what the hell are y'all talking about 341 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 1: up here? Not not anybody, but but like I said, 342 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 1: I think you're you're you make a great point about 343 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 1: those thirty visits, you know, and some of the names. 344 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 1: That's it's the most important information. Like if if you 345 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 1: only could know one thing in the draft process, like 346 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 1: look at the names of the thirty visits. Oh if 347 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 1: you if you wanted to and you got the list 348 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 1: of the thirty names, just study those thirty guys. Yeah, 349 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 1: not that, I mean that might give you an idea 350 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 1: exactly what you said, give you an idea of who 351 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 1: potentially because it's not all first round guys on there. No, 352 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 1: there's some there's some guys we've heard, you know, Naheim 353 00:16:57,440 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 1: Hines then got back out of North Carolina, stay like 354 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 1: and they do that every year too. Um. I remember, 355 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 1: you know, and maybe it's not even a draft pick. 356 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:08,880 Speaker 1: I remember who's the who's the nose tackle? Rodney co Yeah, 357 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:10,880 Speaker 1: he was a Dallas Day guy I think a few 358 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 1: years ago. Sure. But when it's all said and done, 359 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 1: you know, between draft picks and undrafted free agents, they'll 360 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:20,440 Speaker 1: probably add like eighteen players, maybe twenty, and like half 361 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 1: of those guys will be names that you saw on 362 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 1: these lists. Maybe more than that. All right, let me 363 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:27,119 Speaker 1: ask you something real quick. I kind of have an 364 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:30,440 Speaker 1: idea where he's going. He's he's willing to go he's 365 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:33,360 Speaker 1: going right for the right, for the right guy. Are 366 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 1: you willing to go No, I'm willing to go at 367 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:39,440 Speaker 1: the price of eighty one. You're not willing to go 368 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:41,879 Speaker 1: at fifth, you know what? You know where I'm so 369 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:44,160 Speaker 1: that means that you're only willing to go as high 370 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:46,359 Speaker 1: as like sixteen or seventeen. I have a feeling his 371 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:49,400 Speaker 1: board in the second round looks pretty good. My second board, yeah, 372 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:51,680 Speaker 1: my second round board looks really good. And here's also 373 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 1: what I would prefer doing then than going up because 374 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:55,680 Speaker 1: at nineteen, I do feel like you're gonna get a 375 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 1: really good player. Don't say don't say trade back. Uh No, 376 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:00,919 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do what we did a few years ago 377 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 1: with DeMarcus Lawrence. And if you like someone you're at fifty, 378 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 1: and you like someone sitting there at thirty eight or 379 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 1: thirty nine or forty or whatever it takes, then put 380 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:10,960 Speaker 1: eighty one in there and maybe another fourth round or 381 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 1: whatever you have to do, and get up there and 382 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:14,920 Speaker 1: get a guy you like that's not gonna get to 383 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 1: you at fifty. I don't hate that idea, but I 384 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:23,199 Speaker 1: just did the idea of nineteen for me personally. If 385 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:26,159 Speaker 1: it's Roquan. Yeah, let's move, let's go do it, you know, 386 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 1: because I think he's that special. I think Derwin's really good. 387 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:31,160 Speaker 1: I love Derwin James. I just don't want to give 388 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 1: up pick fifty. What about would you trade up for 389 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 1: Ridley if it looks like he's not gonna last? Yeah, 390 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 1: I'd give up the third rounder to get Ridley? Okay, No, 391 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:41,440 Speaker 1: you know what? Now you got me wafflin. Because there's 392 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 1: about a million wide receivers. Yeah, they're not all as 393 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 1: good as so I will say ness, yo, just a 394 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 1: domination of yes, and I was I did not pick up. 395 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 1: Let me ask you this. Okay, yeah, on the draft, 396 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:58,200 Speaker 1: on the Draft show, we don't waffle. So you're gonna 397 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:00,920 Speaker 1: go or not. I've got six seconds round wide receivers. 398 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 1: I've got eight third round wide receivers brought us. I 399 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 1: got eight fourth round wide receivers. I'm gonna get a 400 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 1: wide receiver later. Yeah. I'm not moving well, okay, sitting 401 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:11,159 Speaker 1: tight and you feel quality. You feel good about all 402 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 1: the guys though. Right If nineteen means take a guard, 403 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:17,199 Speaker 1: we'll take a guard. What's this team do they run 404 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 1: the ball? They need to protect the quarterback. Let's get 405 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:22,440 Speaker 1: the guard. He's making sense to me. I mean, so 406 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 1: you're only going up. You're not going up for Derwin James, 407 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 1: not panic. He's going for Derwin James Q. And you're 408 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:33,440 Speaker 1: going Okay, here talking into qu I'm talking to but 409 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:36,680 Speaker 1: hey should need to talk abo. His work out this 410 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:41,440 Speaker 1: morning at Georgia. Okay, Betty looked great. Yeah, always looks great. 411 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 1: Just throwing the film. That's just great film to watch. 412 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 1: You know what happened? You watch other Remember watching that 413 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 1: Georgia tackle the other day, the try hard guy? Why 414 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 1: my Trenton Thompson. Trenton Thompson watching t Yeah, we're that point. 415 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 1: We're watching Trenton Thompson Georgia tackle. He's like Thompson, Okay, good, 416 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:00,640 Speaker 1: good good. Oh well, three's making a play. Three's making 417 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:02,879 Speaker 1: another play. Oh, three's made a third play in a row. 418 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 1: I'm just watching three now. I'm not watching Thompson rushed. 419 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:08,159 Speaker 1: The people's distracted. This happened too. That happens with the 420 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 1: guys who aren't even getting drafted this year. Like we're 421 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 1: watching the bad I should say bad. But a late 422 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:18,640 Speaker 1: round linebacker from Ohio State, Jerome Baker Baker and sitting 423 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:22,120 Speaker 1: there going, Oh my god, Joey Bosa's brother, that kid 424 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:25,440 Speaker 1: can play. Get ready for next January. Yeah, that's true. 425 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 1: Top five. Hey, all right, Dave, thank you for putting 426 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 1: that together though again Dallas Day will be the same. 427 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:33,119 Speaker 1: Thank you to all of our comports on Twitter. We're 428 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:35,440 Speaker 1: helping us get that Bobby Belt. Guys like that. You're 429 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:39,119 Speaker 1: tremendous and hustling and getting that information. That is awesome 430 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 1: the way you guys kind of put that together. We'll 431 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:42,640 Speaker 1: get the list together and try and get all thirty 432 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:45,119 Speaker 1: guys for you for another Draft Day, another show on 433 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 1: the Draft Show coming up. We're gonna get into a 434 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 1: little Twitter on the twenty, so stay tuned. 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I brought us Kevin kat 476 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:04,919 Speaker 1: Turner of one oh five three, the fan and scouting 477 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:07,359 Speaker 1: buddy that spends a lot of late nights watching tape 478 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:10,399 Speaker 1: with me. David Hellman, King Garrison, Executive producing it. Just 479 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 1: want to kind of plug a little bit. We got 480 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:16,120 Speaker 1: our draft guide coming up here. As you can see, 481 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 1: all chalk full of information everything pertaining to these players 482 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 1: list Dane Bruge. A lot of guys work very hard 483 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 1: on this. This draft guide so I just hope that 484 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:29,920 Speaker 1: you have an opportunity to when we get it out, 485 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:33,159 Speaker 1: that you purchase it. I think it'll help you. Got 486 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:34,920 Speaker 1: a lot of reports in there, a lot of lists, 487 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:36,959 Speaker 1: a lot of facts and figures you kind of need 488 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 1: for the draft. Also will plug Dane Bruglers. He's not here, 489 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 1: but I'll plug the Beast for him. This is another 490 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 1: thing that another supplement you need to have. Will have that. 491 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 1: Dane'll have that on his Twitter page. I think he 492 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:52,120 Speaker 1: said he's gonna have it out April second or April 493 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 1: of April. That's this gold right now. But so anyway, 494 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:56,880 Speaker 1: that's kind of where that's at. Check that out. That's 495 00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:00,440 Speaker 1: two things you need. You need the Cowboys Drafts Draft 496 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 1: Guide and then also the Beast from Dane Brugler. Also too, 497 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,160 Speaker 1: I want to promote if you're in the Dallas Fort 498 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 1: Worth area, Dane, Jeff Kavanaugh, and Kat and myself will 499 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 1: host UH Draft one oh one uh and you can 500 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 1: register for that. Is that on one h five three. 501 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 1: I've tweeted out the link on that as well. Is 502 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 1: it But I think you go to the website at 503 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 1: one h five three and be a part of that 504 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:28,400 Speaker 1: night April twelfth. I believe Katia April twelfth, and it's 505 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 1: in then Dallas in the showroom at the station where 506 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 1: one O five three the Fan is. If you go 507 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 1: to one oh five three the Fan dot com. Yeah, um, 508 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:36,440 Speaker 1: you can find it and you can register. You have 509 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:39,360 Speaker 1: to sign up. There's limited space, so sign up fast 510 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 1: one five three fan dot com. Yeah. This is like 511 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 1: our fourth or fifth year doing this, I think. Yeah, 512 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 1: and it's it's gotten into a great night and it's 513 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:48,359 Speaker 1: great as the audience comes and they have a lot 514 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 1: of quod questions and the kind of go back and 515 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 1: forth with you as well, and it's really a good time. 516 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:54,120 Speaker 1: If you could do that draft one oh one, that'll 517 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 1: be one oh five three the Fan. We'll tweet out 518 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 1: the links and stuff like that makes you do that 519 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:00,879 Speaker 1: the Beast and the Draft guide as well. Okay, David Hellman, 520 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 1: give me a little Twitter. You got it, sir, We'll 521 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 1: do a lot of pro Pro days are in full swing. 522 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 1: He saw Sam Darnold work out earlier this week, so 523 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 1: Austin wants to know. He says, he thinks pro days 524 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 1: seems so overblown. Has a quarterback ever had a Pro 525 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 1: day so bad that it actually cost him his draft stock. 526 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 1: I'm talking first round guys. That's a good question because 527 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 1: I've been a part of some pro days where quarterbacks 528 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 1: have thrown, but they're not been top guys. You know, 529 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 1: they've been like guys like Okay, that solidifies that guy 530 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 1: shouldn't be picked. You know, you're kind of watching them throw. 531 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 1: What about the studs though, Yeah, I would venture no, 532 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 1: because they're scripted. That's funny. I had a discussion with 533 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 1: Scott Linahan about this the other day, and I asked 534 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 1: him because he ran the pro day for his son 535 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:50,920 Speaker 1: at Idaho, and he thought, it's not about volume, but 536 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 1: what you show the scouts, you know, it's not about 537 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 1: throwing the ball eighty times, just about making them right. Yeah, 538 00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:58,200 Speaker 1: you know, he said, you know, you look at some 539 00:25:58,240 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 1: of these pro days and they have eighty throws and 540 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 1: the kid and misses eight, nine, ten of him and 541 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:05,680 Speaker 1: it makes him look bad. Just kind of showcase some throws, 542 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 1: you know, kind of keep it simple to where the 543 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 1: scouts get an idea. Prove that you can throw. Yeah, yeah, 544 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:13,720 Speaker 1: you're standing on the you're standing on the right hash 545 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 1: you make the left sideline throw stand you could you 546 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,360 Speaker 1: could fit the ball inside on the end, don't you're 547 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 1: you're accurate on the out and speed out. You know, 548 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 1: the combine kind of goes through a lot of things 549 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:24,240 Speaker 1: if you felt. But I don't think I've ever seen 550 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 1: a workout just totally totally just mess a kid up badly. 551 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:29,880 Speaker 1: I've seen some kids not throw well at the combine 552 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 1: and then throw better at the pro Day, which actually helped. 553 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 1: I think it's usually the opposite that I remember. You know, 554 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,160 Speaker 1: as recently as two years ago, everybody was all over 555 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:41,119 Speaker 1: golf because of his hands. Yeah. Yeah, Pro Day was 556 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 1: so heavily scrutinized. They like dunked his hands in water. 557 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 1: He went one over if I'm remembering correctly, the Bridgewater 558 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 1: one where he wore gloves and everyone was like, oh, 559 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:51,719 Speaker 1: I thought he wasn't gonna wear gloves. Yeah, well, if 560 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 1: you knew him as a player, as you watched him 561 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:55,720 Speaker 1: as a player, you knew he wore gloves going into 562 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 1: the into whatever. That's what he is, that's what he does, 563 00:26:57,880 --> 00:26:59,680 Speaker 1: that's how he plays. So yeah, that's kind of where 564 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:04,200 Speaker 1: it's at. Our boy, b schlurf. I think, um, I 565 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:07,119 Speaker 1: actually hadn't seen this, So kudos to all y'all on Twitter. 566 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 1: I guess the Cowboys reportedly worked out Dane's guy, Nathan 567 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 1: Shepherd from Fort Hayes. Yeah, the D three defensive tackle. Yeah, 568 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:18,399 Speaker 1: so we got we got like eight questions about this 569 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 1: guy today, which so and we've talked about him on 570 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 1: the show before, but just as a refresher, what's what's 571 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:25,960 Speaker 1: your range on him? You know where? Where would they 572 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 1: have to draft him? What do y'all think about him? 573 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:29,359 Speaker 1: Go ahead, man, Well, I could play the one or 574 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 1: the three. But here's the thing that everyone gets a 575 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 1: little worked up about with him is that he went 576 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 1: to a school called Fort Hayes State. Yeah, and if 577 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 1: you watch tape on Fort Hayes State game, they have 578 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:42,000 Speaker 1: the bounce house in the end zone. It's still great, 579 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:45,680 Speaker 1: it's really good. I have him as my number one 580 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 1: defensive tackle in the third round, ahead of guys like 581 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:51,399 Speaker 1: Harrison Phillips, who you see a lot. Yeah, world, but 582 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 1: Shephard would give you value at the three. I think 583 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:55,680 Speaker 1: he could place him one. He's about three ten. I 584 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 1: don't know what his official combine measurement was, but about 585 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 1: three ten is what I had him actually, And I 586 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:03,879 Speaker 1: just think he's a type of guy who he plays with, 587 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:07,640 Speaker 1: good power, good violence. Yeah. Good. You know you look 588 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 1: for a good butt right there if you're looking for 589 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:11,879 Speaker 1: a you know, a big old buttone the ways you 590 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 1: can get away with saying that on the air. Yeah, 591 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:17,920 Speaker 1: but he's look he looked awesome and dominant in Division two. Yeah. 592 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:20,159 Speaker 1: So that's the thing. I don't have tape of him 593 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 1: going up again. Yeah. I think if you go back 594 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 1: and look at his Senior Bowl stuff too, it was 595 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:25,720 Speaker 1: actually pretty good as well. The measurements on him is 596 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:27,960 Speaker 1: six h three six dave less when I do this 597 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 1: six zo three six six h three six, So he 598 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 1: six four three h fifteen pounds. Good calling that one kat. 599 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:37,400 Speaker 1: The speed you're gonna have him at is right about. 600 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 1: That's gonna be seven about five one one Yeah, is 601 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 1: what you know what this team looks for. The get 602 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 1: off the ball right there. And I mean, MALIEK. Collins, 603 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 1: one of his good better traits was I'm the first 604 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 1: one off the line of scrimmage. Nathan Shepherd gives you 605 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 1: that type of thing. Oh, this is a disruptive cat. 606 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 1: I mean you watch him playing games and stuff like that, 607 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 1: and you're like, you know, it's not again, it's Division 608 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 1: it's it's a lower division than all that. But I'm 609 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 1: just kind of like I was always impressed with him, 610 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 1: and like I said, the Senior Bowl stuff didn't look 611 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,720 Speaker 1: too big for him. I mean, it wasn't it wasn't 612 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 1: too big, and you know he was. He showed up 613 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 1: and he battled there, he broke his hand, He beat 614 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:20,160 Speaker 1: Will Hernandez a lot. Yeah, and that kind of got 615 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 1: everybody's That got every attention. But I'm looking at my 616 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:25,240 Speaker 1: notes real quick. Here really good in his hands. Katie 617 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 1: talked about that plays with some power, hold the point, 618 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,360 Speaker 1: plays with punch, can drive his man. Plays a little 619 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 1: tall at times. The word violence you use that, I 620 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 1: got that one as well, squeezed down. He'll get in 621 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 1: some personal battles and that'll hurt him finding the football. 622 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 1: He'll kind of like getting tied up with a guy 623 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 1: and then the ball goes by him right there. But 624 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 1: he could beat double teams. He attacks the gaps. He's 625 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:47,760 Speaker 1: a hard guy to move, falls back inside to make plays. 626 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 1: I mean he plays outside the tackle box. There's a 627 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 1: lot of good things to like about Nathan Shepherd from 628 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 1: Fort Hay State. As Katie said, don't let the school 629 00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 1: hein't cover your eyes. Cowboys once found a pretty good 630 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,240 Speaker 1: defensive lineman from a nobody's school in Kansas by the 631 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:09,560 Speaker 1: name of Leon Lett. Yeah, so yeah, um Matthew Matthew says, 632 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 1: seems like most of the safeties in this draft when 633 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:14,640 Speaker 1: we talk about him, you know, you call them box guys. Yes, 634 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:17,960 Speaker 1: what about are there any center fielders in this draft? 635 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:21,240 Speaker 1: Which this I have a theory here that maybe in 636 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 1: a single draft class, you've got like one or two 637 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 1: safeties that you feel good about, like as cover guys. Yeah, 638 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 1: and those guys go early. That's your Malie Cooker and 639 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,880 Speaker 1: you're you know, your Derwin James type safety. So yeah, 640 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 1: pro tell me if I'm wrong. But like, if you 641 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 1: feel great about a safety in coverage, he's probably not 642 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 1: lasting as far down in the draft as you would think. Yeah, 643 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 1: I don't know about UKT. I mean I think a 644 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 1: guys like Jesse Bates I've said his name from Wake four, Yeah, 645 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:53,920 Speaker 1: as a guy that I would like, the guy that 646 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 1: I really like. My pet cat is the golden kid 647 00:30:57,080 --> 00:31:00,480 Speaker 1: from Tennessee, and I think that I think did he's 648 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 1: a He's he plays the guy that put the double 649 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 1: birds on the fan. Apologize, but I bet yeah he 650 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 1: did apologize after they got just drove by Alabama. But ahead, 651 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:13,800 Speaker 1: I think to me that he's a guy that could play. 652 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 1: He plays corner, he plays slot, he can cover, He's 653 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 1: not fraid to get involved with tackles. He's physical, he 654 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 1: shows range. Don't let the four six one speak. He 655 00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 1: plays so much faster than that. He's got a burst, 656 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 1: He's got range. I would like to see him play 657 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 1: him Bates as another guy, like I mentioned, give me 658 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,160 Speaker 1: the guys that if we've got plenty of those guys 659 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 1: that could play down now. I mean, and it might 660 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 1: mean Xavier Woods. I mean we as a group campaigned 661 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 1: for Xavier Woods last year and maybe that's their way 662 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 1: of doing things now with moving Byron Jones, it's gonna say, okay, 663 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:51,239 Speaker 1: Xavier Woods, you're gonna be now our free safety. If 664 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 1: they go get a second backup type of guy again, 665 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 1: Bates Golden, those are the types of guys that I 666 00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:03,560 Speaker 1: would uh surely look at the kid from in state though, uhi, 667 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 1: and they pick yeah, yeah, Marcus Allen's the guy ever 668 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:08,000 Speaker 1: what is excited about it? But he's a he But yeah, 669 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,600 Speaker 1: Marcus Allen's a down down the box. He's a down 670 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:13,240 Speaker 1: the box player. The more he the deeper he plays, 671 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 1: the worst he plays. I want he never gets there. 672 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:17,960 Speaker 1: I mean he's never He just never gets to where 673 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 1: he needs to be. I'm gonna take this opportunity to 674 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:22,720 Speaker 1: steal a line from Brad Sham that I loved a 675 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 1: couple of days ago when he was here at the office, 676 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,160 Speaker 1: which you know, we talk about safe here, we talk 677 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 1: about safety. I'm just we talk about safety a lot, 678 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:31,400 Speaker 1: and people think that means that, like you know that 679 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,600 Speaker 1: I don't have any faith that like Xavier Woods or 680 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 1: Cavan Frasier can be a good safety. That's not the 681 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,520 Speaker 1: case at all. It's just that hope is not a strategy, 682 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:41,479 Speaker 1: Like I don't want to hope that those guys are 683 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:44,560 Speaker 1: gonna blossom into great players. Yeah, throw throw bodies at 684 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:48,280 Speaker 1: the problem until somebody steps up and fixes it, exactly. UM. 685 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 1: Current event question from Stephen how will trading Jason Pierre 686 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 1: Paul affect the Giant's draft strategy? They sent him to 687 00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:58,640 Speaker 1: Tampa this morning. They did for a third and a 688 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,640 Speaker 1: fourth or the fourth for Dave Gentleman. What you think 689 00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 1: which and to they so that that they weren't missing 690 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:07,640 Speaker 1: picks they've got, so they've no I thought that if 691 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:09,960 Speaker 1: Seattle that's missing a two and a three, yeah, that's 692 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,000 Speaker 1: the team to New York. The Giants, they've got their company. 693 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 1: New York is picking two thirty four sixty six, so 694 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:19,320 Speaker 1: that's their first three and then add whatever Tampa's third 695 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:21,200 Speaker 1: and fourth are onto that. So they're gonna gets like 696 00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 1: sixty eight. They're gonna be picking a lot in the top. 697 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:27,840 Speaker 1: You can I ask you a giant's question then about that? 698 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 1: Are you gonna are you gonna stand in there and 699 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:34,440 Speaker 1: take Chubb? Now? Are you gonna stand in there and 700 00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:38,160 Speaker 1: take him and turn down all these potential draft offers 701 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 1: maybe a huge one from the Jets, maybe a mountin 702 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:44,440 Speaker 1: of Jets, a huge one from Buffalo? Maybe yeah, Are 703 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:46,120 Speaker 1: you gonna sit there and are you gonna say we're 704 00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:49,200 Speaker 1: gonna take Chubb now at two and just move on 705 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 1: with our way without? I mean, is it worth it 706 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,920 Speaker 1: to you to take all those picks and try and 707 00:33:56,320 --> 00:34:01,040 Speaker 1: make your team better that way? Or take Chubb and say, okay, 708 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:03,360 Speaker 1: that's what we are. We're just gonna go order of 709 00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,480 Speaker 1: things that I'm doing there too, Okay, I am looking 710 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:08,600 Speaker 1: for offers I'm trying to get a better offer than 711 00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 1: what the Jets just got with then with the Jets, 712 00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:17,399 Speaker 1: Buffalo better offer. Yeah, okay, so I'm looking for that. Yeah. Two, 713 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:21,600 Speaker 1: I'm taking my next franchise quarterback at number two. Yeah. Three, 714 00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:27,200 Speaker 1: I'm taking Bradley chib Okay, so in the Giants order 715 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:30,160 Speaker 1: of things. Yeah, keep in mind that quarterback. The Giants 716 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:33,520 Speaker 1: still have Olivier Vernon. Yeah, and they still I mean, 717 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:35,400 Speaker 1: I know he's not an end, but they have Snacks Harrison, 718 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:38,279 Speaker 1: so like they have talent on their D line. Right. Wait, 719 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:40,279 Speaker 1: don't get me wrong, Bradley Chubb would be a great 720 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:43,440 Speaker 1: addition to any D line, right, but I wonder how 721 00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:45,800 Speaker 1: drastic it is for them. I don't know. And I 722 00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:49,080 Speaker 1: mean when I think about what the Bills would be 723 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:51,319 Speaker 1: prepared to give them, I mean what it would cost. 724 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:53,759 Speaker 1: And I'm stealing this from somebody else. But like when 725 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:56,160 Speaker 1: it comes to jumping ten spots to draft a quarterback, 726 00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,600 Speaker 1: throw the chart out the window. No, you're absolutely right. 727 00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:02,200 Speaker 1: You can ask whatever at six to three. Yeah. No, 728 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:04,560 Speaker 1: I mean, ask for whatever you want, because if a 729 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:07,000 Speaker 1: team wants a quarterback badly enough, they'll pay it. Oh no, 730 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:10,080 Speaker 1: they will. They will then, So that's the main I'm 731 00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:12,480 Speaker 1: I'm trying to fleece the Bills, is what I'm trying 732 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:15,080 Speaker 1: to do, first and foremost, because I know twelve is 733 00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,320 Speaker 1: a long way to trade, but you'll still get a 734 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:19,879 Speaker 1: really good player, and then you'll pick again at twenty two, 735 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:21,880 Speaker 1: and then you'll have a one for next year, and 736 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:26,560 Speaker 1: probably you'll pick again in the second round. I bet 737 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:28,560 Speaker 1: you could get a second or third round pick in 738 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:31,880 Speaker 1: addition to everything else. This is gonna sound really strange, 739 00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:35,319 Speaker 1: but I would do. You haven't done the quarterbacks yet, 740 00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:39,840 Speaker 1: and I this is my guy, Mike White from Western Kentucky. 741 00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:42,960 Speaker 1: If I'm the Giants and I'm pick him at thirty four, 742 00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:48,279 Speaker 1: thirty four, absolutely okay, Yeah, I know we're getting Yeah, 743 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:50,080 Speaker 1: add him to the man. I mean to me, he 744 00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:53,160 Speaker 1: looks like the one guy. And again you're talking to 745 00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:55,759 Speaker 1: a guy that sucks at evaluating quarterbacks, but he look 746 00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:58,080 Speaker 1: I talked to some guys in the building that are like, 747 00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:01,080 Speaker 1: I know the Cowboys are going to work Mike White out. 748 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:03,880 Speaker 1: I know that them and the kid from they do 749 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,279 Speaker 1: want to They want to development quarterback like I would 750 00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:08,520 Speaker 1: guess the Cowboys are gonna try to draft one. Yeah, 751 00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:10,960 Speaker 1: So I mean, they're gonna go work this guy out 752 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:17,480 Speaker 1: to me? Take it a quarterback at two? Okay, maybe not. 753 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:20,280 Speaker 1: Maybe I should take this, take this guy, Mike White, 754 00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:22,759 Speaker 1: or maybe I should take you know what I'm saying, 755 00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:24,520 Speaker 1: I could, you know, I can, I can piece the 756 00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:26,359 Speaker 1: logic on that together, because I mean, if you're kind 757 00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:30,239 Speaker 1: of a situation depends on how much you like you yeah, yeah, no, No, 758 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:32,399 Speaker 1: I'm just trying to say, and you like a guy, 759 00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:35,359 Speaker 1: yeah a bit, but maybe darnold your first time, Maybe 760 00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:39,160 Speaker 1: he doesn't. Maybe Mike White later out of out, just 761 00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:43,480 Speaker 1: outside the mix of the six guys, maybe he is 762 00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:45,719 Speaker 1: the guy that make you say, We'll make you say 763 00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:49,759 Speaker 1: I don't have to have a quarterback at two if well, 764 00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:51,520 Speaker 1: if you're day, if you like him that much, if 765 00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:53,719 Speaker 1: you're at two, you take a quarterback you Oh sure. 766 00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,920 Speaker 1: I'm trying to make an argument with you. This is 767 00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,000 Speaker 1: the same an argument about that that this is. This 768 00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:02,200 Speaker 1: is the same show where the Cowboys picked it for 769 00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:05,120 Speaker 1: and everybody on this show was basically an agreement that 770 00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:07,719 Speaker 1: they didn't need a quarterback. So I'm not going to 771 00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:09,759 Speaker 1: kill the giants if they decide I'm gonna kill the 772 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:12,879 Speaker 1: team that takes Josh Allen, Well, oh easily that means 773 00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:17,120 Speaker 1: go away? Yeah, no way. But if I'm Dave Gettlman Wait, 774 00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:20,319 Speaker 1: do you see that tape? If I've seen a little bit, 775 00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:24,680 Speaker 1: but actual tape you watch, just leave me alone about that. No, 776 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,839 Speaker 1: I don't want no go away, But I mean, if 777 00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:29,839 Speaker 1: Eli Manning gives you the best chance to win over 778 00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:32,520 Speaker 1: the next three years, and you can add to me, 779 00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:35,440 Speaker 1: you can add to the team around him without just 780 00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,240 Speaker 1: not wasting a pick but drafting a guy too overall 781 00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:40,600 Speaker 1: who's not gonna play. Yeah, I'm all in on that, especial. 782 00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:42,239 Speaker 1: And you tell me I can draft a guy at 783 00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:44,920 Speaker 1: thirty four and pair him with the guy pair him 784 00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:49,680 Speaker 1: with twenty two? You like, whatever, we gotta get ahead 785 00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:54,560 Speaker 1: of What if the Giants traded back and got Quentin 786 00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:57,480 Speaker 1: Nelson at twelve whatever, that's probably low, but just bear 787 00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:00,800 Speaker 1: with me. You get a guard or my guy, James Daniels, 788 00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:02,279 Speaker 1: Like I said, you get a guy who can start 789 00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:05,480 Speaker 1: right away. And then they lost their center and they 790 00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:09,320 Speaker 1: draft Lamar Jackson at twenty two, then I would be 791 00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,120 Speaker 1: taking before that. Well, then you could use all your picks. 792 00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:15,080 Speaker 1: Are you gonna go out that night of the gonna 793 00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:17,960 Speaker 1: be cheering for the Giants. I'll just if the Giants 794 00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:19,680 Speaker 1: could do a lot of stuff that was sure, they 795 00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:22,040 Speaker 1: could really scary for you. Sure they could, That's all 796 00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:24,200 Speaker 1: I'm saying. Yeah, if get them in places right, he 797 00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:26,040 Speaker 1: can have he could, he could hurt you for a 798 00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:28,279 Speaker 1: little bit. Would you would you let the Giants trade 799 00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:30,439 Speaker 1: up to nineteen to get Lamar if they were sitting 800 00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:32,399 Speaker 1: at twenty two. We're like so deep in the weeds 801 00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:34,879 Speaker 1: right now, but I don't care what about that though 802 00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:37,600 Speaker 1: the Giants are trying to get it. Would I take 803 00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:41,239 Speaker 1: Lamar a nineteen? Would you? I bet you would? But 804 00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:43,120 Speaker 1: I don't think they would. I don't think they would, 805 00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,440 Speaker 1: either the Giants or the cowboys. We're talking about the 806 00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:48,640 Speaker 1: cowboy cowboys. It's having fun, right If having fun, we're 807 00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:52,000 Speaker 1: just throwing out scenarios. We've talked about that on here before, 808 00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:54,120 Speaker 1: Like if they were completely wiped out and they couldn't 809 00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:56,400 Speaker 1: get out of it, I mean, I would do it. 810 00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:58,920 Speaker 1: Whatever you have to get ahead of the quarterback situation? 811 00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:00,839 Speaker 1: Do you do it? There? You sit there and take 812 00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:04,040 Speaker 1: calls all day? Yeah, but your next options to be 813 00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:06,160 Speaker 1: ready to take rosen or Mayfield or I'm with you, 814 00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:11,080 Speaker 1: not Josh Allen. That's a bad pick. Challenge your second 815 00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:13,120 Speaker 1: best quarterback, then get out of there. Okay, we're gonna 816 00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:15,120 Speaker 1: go to a break when we come back. Thank you 817 00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:17,040 Speaker 1: for everybody for the Twitter on the twenty. We appreciate. 818 00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:21,000 Speaker 1: We go back. Taste Takes. Taylor Stern joins the Fray 819 00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:25,600 Speaker 1: coming right back. Cowboys fans know that the second best 820 00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:28,360 Speaker 1: of anything simply won't cut it, and your skincare should 821 00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:30,520 Speaker 1: be no different. 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I hear all this 839 00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:25,800 Speaker 1: talk about what it takes to be a cowboy. Everyone's 840 00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:28,279 Speaker 1: got their ideas, but I just say to myself, it's 841 00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:31,120 Speaker 1: what's up top that matters. Sure, you need men with 842 00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:33,480 Speaker 1: the muscle and heart to get her done. But if 843 00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:36,279 Speaker 1: your scouts and coaches are listening out there a word 844 00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:39,560 Speaker 1: of advice. Pick the man with the most well worn stetson. 845 00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:42,000 Speaker 1: That's the one most cut out to be a cowboy. 846 00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,800 Speaker 1: Stetson hats are handmade right here in Texas and have 847 00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:47,920 Speaker 1: been on Cowboys heads for over one hundred fifty years. 848 00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:50,440 Speaker 1: The rest of you can visit stetson dot com slash 849 00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:53,040 Speaker 1: cowboy to find a retailer nearest you. What does it 850 00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:56,040 Speaker 1: mean to be a Dallas Cowboys fan. It means you've 851 00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:58,239 Speaker 1: got the passion of the heart to do your part 852 00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:01,360 Speaker 1: supporting the boys no matter why. That's why when the 853 00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:04,080 Speaker 1: game's on the line, you're on your feet, whether you're 854 00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:06,719 Speaker 1: at home or in the stands. Actually, you're more than 855 00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:09,680 Speaker 1: a fan. You are a member of Cowboys Nation. And 856 00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:12,719 Speaker 1: so is AT and T doing their part to keep 857 00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:17,000 Speaker 1: you connected to America's team all season. Law AT and 858 00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:22,480 Speaker 1: T is a proud member of Cowboys Nation. This is 859 00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:26,680 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys dot Com drafted you Cowboys. We're back 860 00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:30,399 Speaker 1: here in the SWBC Mortgage studios. Brian broad As, Kevin 861 00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:33,440 Speaker 1: KT Turner, David Hellman, David, I have to ask you 862 00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:35,799 Speaker 1: real quick. Yeah, I need to do something about Tommy 863 00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:38,400 Speaker 1: John underwear. Well, all you need to know, Brian is 864 00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:40,759 Speaker 1: that it's really good underwear. And also the socks and 865 00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:42,799 Speaker 1: shirts are great too. They send us some of those. 866 00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:45,359 Speaker 1: It's very comfortable. It's like it's not even there at all, 867 00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:47,960 Speaker 1: like like Ned Flanders. Look, I'm wearing nothing at all. 868 00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:50,480 Speaker 1: There you go. You can find it at Tommy John 869 00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:54,120 Speaker 1: dot com. Forward Slash Cowboys for twenty percent off. Of course, 870 00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:57,680 Speaker 1: Taylor Stern is videoing me on her Instagram story. She says, 871 00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:00,120 Speaker 1: I'm on social media too much. She is the I 872 00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:03,239 Speaker 1: don't do this on top y. He just says it 873 00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:05,160 Speaker 1: when she's here, Dave, put your phone down and live 874 00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:10,959 Speaker 1: your life. Speaking of the aforementioned at Taylor Stern, Welcome 875 00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,000 Speaker 1: to the program, my friend, so much. Nice to have 876 00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:15,680 Speaker 1: you back. Happy to be back in the building. We 877 00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:19,000 Speaker 1: discussed earlier some different things that we could talk about today. Yeah, 878 00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:20,960 Speaker 1: you kind of throw a stone in the fire upstairs, 879 00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:24,080 Speaker 1: so you know, I'm glad we have the opportunity to 880 00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:27,799 Speaker 1: bring you on and let you Oh, I'm glad you're wise. Yeah, 881 00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:30,279 Speaker 1: that's all I gotta say here. I try old man wise. No, 882 00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:33,760 Speaker 1: you're you're very wise and it's been proven, but you know, hellman. 883 00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:39,360 Speaker 1: And yeah, even unfortunately Katie is another questionable topic here. Yes, okay, 884 00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:42,560 Speaker 1: my take, I'm thrown at you guys. Yeah, all right. 885 00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:45,680 Speaker 1: So this is the Draft Show, right, Marily covering all 886 00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:50,280 Speaker 1: draft things right and Cowboys fans are up in arms 887 00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:53,960 Speaker 1: this past week with free agency, thinking that the Cowboys 888 00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:57,440 Speaker 1: are essentially doomed. Right. To me, it feels like preseason, 889 00:42:57,880 --> 00:42:59,719 Speaker 1: you know, when a team goes four and oh and 890 00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:03,000 Speaker 1: the preseason, Oh they're the next super Bowl winner, Cleland. 891 00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:05,400 Speaker 1: But not true, Yeah, not true. Yeah, the fact of 892 00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:09,000 Speaker 1: the matter is that preseason is a random team. It's 893 00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:12,759 Speaker 1: not even your fifty three man roster mostly playing. It's 894 00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:17,160 Speaker 1: an assortment. So coming back to free agency, Cowboys fans 895 00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:19,040 Speaker 1: want them to go out and get the big names, 896 00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:21,279 Speaker 1: or at least that's what I'm seeing on Twitter. Right, 897 00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:23,799 Speaker 1: it seems like they keep saying, oh, they've done nothing. Right, 898 00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:27,200 Speaker 1: I think they've done something. And with the current free 899 00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:31,359 Speaker 1: agents that they had in this year particular, right, I'm 900 00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:34,719 Speaker 1: not upset with the moves that they've made. Okay, so 901 00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:37,359 Speaker 1: you're you're you're thinking, you're lyne of thinking is though, 902 00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:40,080 Speaker 1: draft is the most important Draft is the most important thing. Yes, 903 00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:44,000 Speaker 1: ten picks. Yeah, you know, I think that the I 904 00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:48,200 Speaker 1: think that he will argue with me about that. He 905 00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:52,560 Speaker 1: likes balance in the thing, and I see, I mean, hey, 906 00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:55,000 Speaker 1: you gotta supplement. You got to be able to do 907 00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:57,640 Speaker 1: what you need to do. That's the point of it, right, Yeah, 908 00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:00,320 Speaker 1: that's the point. And I think that to me, I 909 00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:04,919 Speaker 1: am on board with the Cowboys approach. Not because Jerry 910 00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:07,719 Speaker 1: Jones signs my check. I'm on a board because I 911 00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:11,960 Speaker 1: like to draft. But but I could also see where 912 00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:15,480 Speaker 1: that's not enough. I get it. But I'm gonna take 913 00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:18,440 Speaker 1: ten shots at this thing. I'm going to I mean, 914 00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:20,560 Speaker 1: I'm gonna move around. I'm gonna do whatever I'm gonna 915 00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:22,080 Speaker 1: have to do. What if I told you you could 916 00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:24,600 Speaker 1: take ESPN thirty for thirty. What if I told you 917 00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:28,200 Speaker 1: you could take seven shots and then spend three draft 918 00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:30,799 Speaker 1: picks to bring in like some better Okay, so you're 919 00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:34,600 Speaker 1: saying I need to trade, saying trade, make trades, use 920 00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:37,799 Speaker 1: what asset I have. Can't rely on the draft, which 921 00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:40,640 Speaker 1: is historically a crapshoot, and if you're good at it, 922 00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:42,480 Speaker 1: it's the one thing that they're good at here. But 923 00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:46,200 Speaker 1: even my right, even if you're if you're great at 924 00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:49,080 Speaker 1: the draft, isn't it still only yielding like sixty to 925 00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:52,040 Speaker 1: seventy percent success? Well, like even the good teams do 926 00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:54,719 Speaker 1: they hit on every single pick? Does every pick you 927 00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:58,840 Speaker 1: make in a draft? Agency? Why they're chilling out on 928 00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:01,520 Speaker 1: free agency though? But because of what happened years ago, 929 00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:04,360 Speaker 1: you think that's in the case with with with with 930 00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:08,359 Speaker 1: with Brandon Carr, that's why what then that's about? Well, 931 00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:10,160 Speaker 1: I didn't have a problem with Brandy Carr. But what 932 00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:12,000 Speaker 1: I'm saying is, like the best for agent signing they've 933 00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:13,960 Speaker 1: had is a guy like Jeremy Mincy over the last 934 00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:16,200 Speaker 1: five years. And that's kind of weird to me if 935 00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:17,840 Speaker 1: we start looking at it and going, Okay, I understand 936 00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:20,080 Speaker 1: what they're doing. They don't need to be restructuring Jeremy. 937 00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:24,279 Speaker 1: Jeremy Mincy would is like a great signing compared to 938 00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:26,080 Speaker 1: some of the stuff that they've done. I mean, Jeremy 939 00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:28,400 Speaker 1: Mincy had six sacks. That's get me a guy that 940 00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:31,080 Speaker 1: can get six sacks for I think they paid him 941 00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:32,680 Speaker 1: two million a year or maybe it was one point 942 00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:35,799 Speaker 1: five a year. Even Vincent Mayo that first year. I mean, 943 00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:40,040 Speaker 1: somebody lacks but go ahead, no, no, go ahead and 944 00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:41,360 Speaker 1: make your point. What was it? The point is, like 945 00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:44,040 Speaker 1: cod they start restructuring contracts that they were doing all 946 00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:46,440 Speaker 1: the time, just flipping switches, and people act like there 947 00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:48,719 Speaker 1: is no salary kept. No there is. Yeah, And like 948 00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:50,680 Speaker 1: if Tyrn's got a bad back, I don't need to 949 00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:53,399 Speaker 1: be restructuring his contract into each Oh. I think that's 950 00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:55,400 Speaker 1: I think that we didn't see that this year. It 951 00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:57,600 Speaker 1: was Travis Frederick. That's going to be the flip. When 952 00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:00,680 Speaker 1: that happened, you trusted him to stay healthy. Yeah, Now, Dave. 953 00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:02,800 Speaker 1: The only thing that I'm saying that I've seen the 954 00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:05,680 Speaker 1: shift in the NFL particularly, and then the Cowboys are 955 00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:07,520 Speaker 1: at the forefront of that with what they did with 956 00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:10,000 Speaker 1: the secondary last year. Yeah, that this is such a 957 00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:13,040 Speaker 1: young man's league, right league. I mean, we were just 958 00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:16,120 Speaker 1: talking about receivers that are thirty and oh they're out 959 00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:18,440 Speaker 1: of it, they're past their prime. Well, the fact of 960 00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:20,520 Speaker 1: the matter is is like when you go on free agency, 961 00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:22,560 Speaker 1: these guys are a little bit older because they've been 962 00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:26,040 Speaker 1: with other teams, right, they've experienced other things, They've had 963 00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:28,760 Speaker 1: other injuries that you don't know about. With the draft, 964 00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:32,200 Speaker 1: you have a lot more control about the projection of 965 00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:35,000 Speaker 1: their career. You do, No, you absolutely do. And like 966 00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:37,840 Speaker 1: for the record, drafting is the right way to do this, 967 00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:40,520 Speaker 1: like it should be the foundation of your team. But 968 00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:43,680 Speaker 1: to assume that you can just replenish guys through the 969 00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:46,320 Speaker 1: draft and let them go as they age and not 970 00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:48,920 Speaker 1: look for other ways to stock your roster, I just 971 00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:51,440 Speaker 1: think that's wrong. I mean, and you know you mentioned 972 00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:54,799 Speaker 1: you feel like it's the preseason. Teams that perform well 973 00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:57,320 Speaker 1: in free agency don't usually amount to anything that is 974 00:46:57,400 --> 00:46:59,720 Speaker 1: true to a degree. And if you're out there throwing 975 00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:02,960 Speaker 1: Tomi Dolphins two years ago. How about the Philadelphia Eagles 976 00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:06,520 Speaker 1: last year? Okay, well that's because their fans were pumped 977 00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:08,600 Speaker 1: on their free agency moves. I think their fans probably 978 00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:10,960 Speaker 1: were because they looked good. They got a very good 979 00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:13,560 Speaker 1: wide receiver on a very team friendly deal. They traded 980 00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:15,799 Speaker 1: for a first round defensive tackle and didn't give up 981 00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:18,040 Speaker 1: a lot to get it. They signed a veteran Chris Long, 982 00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:20,279 Speaker 1: who the Cowboys were interested in two years ago, who 983 00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:22,520 Speaker 1: they couldn't get their hands on because of New England England. 984 00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:24,440 Speaker 1: They didn't pay them a lot of money. I think 985 00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:27,080 Speaker 1: it wasn't sexy, and I don't know that they were 986 00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:30,560 Speaker 1: hosting parades in free agency, but I think that they 987 00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:32,839 Speaker 1: were all very happy about the way that those deals 988 00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:35,840 Speaker 1: panned out. And that's that's where I'm at, which is 989 00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:38,399 Speaker 1: that did they have to resign anyone big on their 990 00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:42,760 Speaker 1: team before they made moves? Well, they have. They redo 991 00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:45,919 Speaker 1: Lane Johnson's conj have Fletcher Cox, they have Lane john 992 00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:49,600 Speaker 1: franchise tag anyone. No, no, you had a franchise tag 993 00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:52,200 Speaker 1: one of your best defense events, that's the best defensive vents. 994 00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:54,600 Speaker 1: That's fine, and they should have. I'm in favor of 995 00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:57,359 Speaker 1: that move. They could still be doing more. And you're right, 996 00:47:57,400 --> 00:47:59,360 Speaker 1: there is a salary cap. There's also a way around 997 00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:02,239 Speaker 1: that salary cap. Like, but we've been I've been saying 998 00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:04,360 Speaker 1: it since I'm till I'm blue in the face. Morgan 999 00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:07,160 Speaker 1: Burnett's getting four and a half a million dollars a year. Dude, 1000 00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:10,239 Speaker 1: you can accomlatch Morgan Burnette player break and he's good, 1001 00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:12,839 Speaker 1: you can. You can accommodate. He's got to get hurt. 1002 00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:16,400 Speaker 1: He's gonna get hurt. Love, but five million dollars you 1003 00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:18,719 Speaker 1: can acc And you know, I worry about bringing this 1004 00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:20,600 Speaker 1: name up because I went to LSU and I don't 1005 00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:23,560 Speaker 1: want to look like a homer. Tyron Matthew seven million 1006 00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:26,040 Speaker 1: dollars a year or for one year on a prove 1007 00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:29,080 Speaker 1: it deal. You can accommodate that too, if you really want. Okay, 1008 00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:30,880 Speaker 1: let me well, let me just real quick there, Okay, 1009 00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:34,080 Speaker 1: then tell me how you would use Tyron Matthew. Yeah, 1010 00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:36,840 Speaker 1: and and and and and no, I'm just staying scheme wise, 1011 00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:40,600 Speaker 1: and will this coaching staff do it the way you 1012 00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:42,200 Speaker 1: want to do it? Off the top of my head 1013 00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:45,080 Speaker 1: without like knowing that I'm not an expert. I would 1014 00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:47,640 Speaker 1: use him a lot like they use Xavier Wood Xavier Woods, 1015 00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:49,920 Speaker 1: which is that he can play slot corner and he 1016 00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:53,120 Speaker 1: could probably be your third safety in nickel and dime situations. 1017 00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:55,280 Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to put him back in center field 1018 00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:57,960 Speaker 1: all the time, but I think he would be a 1019 00:48:58,120 --> 00:48:59,920 Speaker 1: massive upgrade. And I would try to put him into 1020 00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:02,160 Speaker 1: situations where he can be a freelancer because that's what 1021 00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:04,000 Speaker 1: he's good at and you think these guys are capable 1022 00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:06,520 Speaker 1: of that. If they're not, then that's a problem. Then 1023 00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:08,760 Speaker 1: that needs to be changed out. I mean, just figure 1024 00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:11,239 Speaker 1: something out and then that's you know, I'm I'm tired 1025 00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:13,759 Speaker 1: of hearing things like, well, he doesn't fit, and if 1026 00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:16,680 Speaker 1: it's if it's a schmo, fine, but if you're talking 1027 00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:18,600 Speaker 1: about a Pro Bowl player not being able to fit, 1028 00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:21,160 Speaker 1: that's a problem. For Let's tie this back. Income pro 1029 00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:24,560 Speaker 1: Bowl player fit, make your scheme fit if he's good enough. 1030 00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:25,920 Speaker 1: I mean, if if you can't find a way to 1031 00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:28,960 Speaker 1: use a guy that that's talent, that's that talented, that's bizarre. Okay, 1032 00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:30,680 Speaker 1: let's tie this all back in the draft. It goes 1033 00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:33,479 Speaker 1: back to the one technique thing man you on board 1034 00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:35,680 Speaker 1: with the I mean they will not they will you 1035 00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:39,839 Speaker 1: know the one I've brought. Are they too? Scheme depended here? 1036 00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:43,239 Speaker 1: I think I think they're stubborn, stubborn across the ball. 1037 00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:45,200 Speaker 1: I think that I think they're stubborn. I think they 1038 00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:48,120 Speaker 1: like their guys and so sure, you know, I don't 1039 00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:51,759 Speaker 1: think it's a coincidence that you know the guys. It's 1040 00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:56,040 Speaker 1: it's very peculiar, peculiar and coincidental to me that the 1041 00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:58,919 Speaker 1: fullback all the Walley and Joe Thomas have both spent 1042 00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:02,200 Speaker 1: time here in their career, so they're even familiar with 1043 00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:03,920 Speaker 1: them on at least some kind of level. They liked 1044 00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:05,480 Speaker 1: them enough to bring them in at one point in 1045 00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:08,720 Speaker 1: their career. Whether you call it you know they're afraid 1046 00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:10,680 Speaker 1: of getting burned by a guy they're not familiar with, 1047 00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:13,160 Speaker 1: or whether they're just stubborn and they think the guys 1048 00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:15,640 Speaker 1: that they evaluate are better than the guys other people evaluate, 1049 00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:19,799 Speaker 1: I don't know, but there's something there. There's a stubbornness there. 1050 00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:23,600 Speaker 1: I think I respect their persistence on just relying on 1051 00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:26,200 Speaker 1: the scheme and this is what we do, and like, 1052 00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:28,720 Speaker 1: I think it's weird and it kind of bothers me sometimes, 1053 00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:31,160 Speaker 1: but I actually respect it, Like they go back with it, 1054 00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:33,000 Speaker 1: do you? We don't. We don't take a one and 1055 00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:35,279 Speaker 1: it's fun. I'm like, I would adjust to it. But hey, 1056 00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:37,879 Speaker 1: do you guys believe in something you respect? I wish 1057 00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:40,800 Speaker 1: I believe Bolts. I wish I believe the handborn plane 1058 00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:43,360 Speaker 1: right now, Kent. That's what taste takes you, m I 1059 00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:45,680 Speaker 1: wish I believed in something as much as the Cowboys 1060 00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:47,480 Speaker 1: believe in their scheme. That's the other I bring it 1061 00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:48,960 Speaker 1: up all the time, and I know, like, you're not 1062 00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:51,120 Speaker 1: high on him, he would you would call him a bust, 1063 00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:53,520 Speaker 1: but give up a third round pick and get a 1064 00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:56,040 Speaker 1: fifth in return and add Danny Shelton to this defensive 1065 00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:57,880 Speaker 1: line and just let him. Oh no, I mean, I 1066 00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:00,600 Speaker 1: don't think Danny Shelton's a bust. I just think I 1067 00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:03,080 Speaker 1: think it's Danny Shelton the right way. Let him take 1068 00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:05,600 Speaker 1: on blocks and free up your linebackers to make plays, 1069 00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:07,319 Speaker 1: and he'd be way better at it than a guy 1070 00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:09,839 Speaker 1: that you draft in the seventh round. I think, yeah, 1071 00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:12,400 Speaker 1: And I think that's worth swapping draft picks for for 1072 00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:15,319 Speaker 1: And again, one year the Eagles sent I think they 1073 00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:18,320 Speaker 1: sent a third to Baltimore for Timmy Jernigan. Yeah, they're like, 1074 00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:20,400 Speaker 1: this might not work out. Well, it did and they 1075 00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:22,880 Speaker 1: gave him an extension and he's a valuable part of 1076 00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:24,840 Speaker 1: their defense. All right, well, we'll see you on Eagles 1077 00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:29,040 Speaker 1: dot Com. Think hey, you want to it's a copycat lead. 1078 00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:35,240 Speaker 1: My main point of this whole discussion was that Cowboys 1079 00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:38,480 Speaker 1: fans have an optimistic silver lining at the end of 1080 00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:41,000 Speaker 1: this tunnel in the fact that you have ten draft picks, 1081 00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:44,959 Speaker 1: primarily what you've done last year in free agency, letting 1082 00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:48,919 Speaker 1: big name guys go in mo Clayborne, Berry Church, those guys, etc. 1083 00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:52,680 Speaker 1: So all I'm saying is, at least look at the 1084 00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:56,520 Speaker 1: fact that your past Pro bowlers, your big time Pro bowlers, 1085 00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:59,640 Speaker 1: have all been draft picks. You're absolutely right, like, there's 1086 00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:01,680 Speaker 1: all there's all the reason in the world to be 1087 00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:03,960 Speaker 1: optimistic that they're going to find some really good players 1088 00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:06,960 Speaker 1: in this draft. But it's not realistic to think that 1089 00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:09,640 Speaker 1: all of those got I mean twenty sixteen draft class 1090 00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:12,080 Speaker 1: don't come along every day you find an all Pro 1091 00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:14,640 Speaker 1: quarterback and all Pro running back and a six sack 1092 00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:17,719 Speaker 1: defensive tackle with your first four picks. Very off, bringing 1093 00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:20,799 Speaker 1: up Anthony Brown him too. You're right, You're absolutely right. 1094 00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:23,279 Speaker 1: He deserves credit too. That doesn't come around every year, 1095 00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:26,200 Speaker 1: and it's not realistic to think that those guys are 1096 00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:28,200 Speaker 1: going to put you over the top on a team 1097 00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:30,160 Speaker 1: that fell short of the playoffs. Let me ask you this, 1098 00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:32,960 Speaker 1: with the move for Sammy Watkins, do you question now 1099 00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:35,640 Speaker 1: the pro personnel side of it. I mean, she's trying 1100 00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:37,840 Speaker 1: to tell you need to go draft. There's I mean, 1101 00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:39,640 Speaker 1: does that kind of make you pause a little bit? 1102 00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:42,640 Speaker 1: Like WHOA? This team almost feels schizophrenic right now. Like 1103 00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:46,160 Speaker 1: on one hand, they're they're reluctant to bring in guys 1104 00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:48,200 Speaker 1: and spend a lot of money, and on the other hand, 1105 00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:50,200 Speaker 1: the report is that they were trying to give Sammy 1106 00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:53,600 Speaker 1: Watker sack million dollars. Yeah, it's it's like they don't 1107 00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:56,560 Speaker 1: know exactly what they want to do, which is goodness. 1108 00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:59,399 Speaker 1: They didn't do the Packs and Lynch deal. Hey oh yeah, 1109 00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:02,600 Speaker 1: I'm talking if we're talking about draft too. I mean, 1110 00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:04,600 Speaker 1: that was the back that was the other backup plan. Right, 1111 00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:07,160 Speaker 1: There's a million different ways all that stuff can go. 1112 00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:09,080 Speaker 1: And yeah, I mean, you know, Sammy Watkins could be 1113 00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:10,839 Speaker 1: the number one receiver on this team, right Now, if 1114 00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:13,680 Speaker 1: Kansas City hadn't decided to up the offer, if the 1115 00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:16,359 Speaker 1: Paxton Winch thing happened, Garrett wouldn't have a job right now. 1116 00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:18,680 Speaker 1: They would all have been wiped out. I know, he's 1117 00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:21,759 Speaker 1: done pretty good at the broncos M. He's rocks a 1118 00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:24,440 Speaker 1: lot of hats. He was crying on the sidelines, a 1119 00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:27,480 Speaker 1: lot of hats, although it was a pretty bad at 1120 00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:29,920 Speaker 1: the at then, I mean, I think we're all in agreement. 1121 00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:31,920 Speaker 1: I mean, this is the draft show. The draft is 1122 00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:35,200 Speaker 1: the most important piece of team building in top picks, babe, 1123 00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:38,480 Speaker 1: That's what we're talking about. And honestly, today's point it 1124 00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:40,680 Speaker 1: worked out beautifully for them in the sense that they 1125 00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:43,000 Speaker 1: let a lot of salary go in the offseason last 1126 00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:45,439 Speaker 1: year and replaced it with young defensive backs who look 1127 00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:48,080 Speaker 1: like they have all the upside of the world. Um, 1128 00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:51,120 Speaker 1: I need Cavon Frasier. You know Bury Church Now, well, 1129 00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:55,480 Speaker 1: Cason point right, but well you're James. Cavon Frasier is 1130 00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:58,080 Speaker 1: going to become Cavon Frasier is going to become Burry 1131 00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:00,239 Speaker 1: Church just in time to leave. And then you're gonna 1132 00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:01,839 Speaker 1: let him go, and then you're gonna have the same 1133 00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:04,520 Speaker 1: problem how is that any different than Smith becoming just 1134 00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:06,960 Speaker 1: good enough to leave? You're right, no, I mean, I 1135 00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:09,680 Speaker 1: mean they just questions on if if all you're doing 1136 00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:11,640 Speaker 1: is drafting, then I feel like you're on a four 1137 00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:15,160 Speaker 1: and five year cycle where you're never fixing your problems 1138 00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:17,840 Speaker 1: enough to really bolster your team. Like you know, I 1139 00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:19,759 Speaker 1: said this off the air to Taylor, it's like the 1140 00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:22,759 Speaker 1: Jerry Jones analogy of holding jello, Like as soon as 1141 00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:25,320 Speaker 1: you feel good about it another you know, it's sports 1142 00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:26,880 Speaker 1: out the other side of your head. But let's be 1143 00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:29,719 Speaker 1: honest about the real problems, the real problems last year 1144 00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:31,680 Speaker 1: for this team that caused them to miss the playoffs. 1145 00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:34,360 Speaker 1: There's a suspension and a bad bad and well and 1146 00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:36,400 Speaker 1: a bad hand I get and a slot player that 1147 00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:39,319 Speaker 1: was half the production. That's and that's all. I bet 1148 00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:41,239 Speaker 1: you that's a big part of the reason. Like they 1149 00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:45,040 Speaker 1: don't they think we're ridiculous for the amount of concern 1150 00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:47,600 Speaker 1: there is, because I'm sure they see themselves as a 1151 00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:50,279 Speaker 1: much better team and win ten games next year to 1152 00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:53,120 Speaker 1: be to be. I mean, they were rolling when Zeke 1153 00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:55,680 Speaker 1: got suspended, They really were. I mean they they kicked 1154 00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:58,600 Speaker 1: the crap out of the Chiefs. So I get that, 1155 00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:00,640 Speaker 1: and and I like you know, I always say this, 1156 00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:02,239 Speaker 1: I don't think it's as dire as a lot of 1157 00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:04,759 Speaker 1: frustrated fans want to make it out to be. But 1158 00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:07,200 Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's a bad idea to 1159 00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:10,040 Speaker 1: also ignore your problems and act like you're good and 1160 00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:12,720 Speaker 1: not try to bolster your team. Okay, two quick questions 1161 00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:14,839 Speaker 1: for the panel. If I could, this team we got 1162 00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:17,120 Speaker 1: on the mail back this morning. This is team at 1163 00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:21,480 Speaker 1: nine and seven, worse at nine the worse now than 1164 00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:22,640 Speaker 1: they were at the end of the area. Yeah, they 1165 00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:23,960 Speaker 1: worse now than they worked the end of the year. 1166 00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:27,880 Speaker 1: I don't think so. No, I don't think they are. Okay, 1167 00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:31,160 Speaker 1: you your top two tackles were hurt, Your running back 1168 00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:34,480 Speaker 1: was coming off a suspension, your linebackers were in disarray. 1169 00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:37,759 Speaker 1: All that stuff you would assume would be better in 1170 00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:40,200 Speaker 1: twenty eighteen. You're going to add a draft class to that. 1171 00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:43,680 Speaker 1: Anthony Hitchens is something worth worrying about. But you've signed 1172 00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:45,719 Speaker 1: a linebacker to help with that. You're going to draft 1173 00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:48,399 Speaker 1: a linebacker to help with that. So no, I don't 1174 00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:49,600 Speaker 1: you know. When it's all said and downe, No, I 1175 00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:51,120 Speaker 1: don't think they're worse than they were at the end 1176 00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:53,200 Speaker 1: of the ally. I think they're about the same, do 1177 00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:56,160 Speaker 1: you really, Yeah, which is hey nine and seven, Yeah, 1178 00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:59,160 Speaker 1: eight and eight, Yeah, and around there. I don't think. 1179 00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:01,440 Speaker 1: I just I don't think an Anthony Hitchins makes this 1180 00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:04,920 Speaker 1: team worse. What do you think take losing Anthony Hitchins. Yeah, 1181 00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:07,160 Speaker 1: I don't think it makes the team overall worse. Doesn't 1182 00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:09,520 Speaker 1: make them better. No, but it's not. It's not one 1183 00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:11,160 Speaker 1: of those things that if it makes you makes you 1184 00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:13,040 Speaker 1: think the whole roster suck. If you do what you 1185 00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:16,080 Speaker 1: have to do and protect Shaun Lee and Jaylen, yeah, 1186 00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:20,000 Speaker 1: that's whatever you draft someone think, Yeah, and I agree 1187 00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:23,560 Speaker 1: with you. I mean they have for the most part, 1188 00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:26,359 Speaker 1: they have the starting personnel to get the job done. Yeah, 1189 00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:29,839 Speaker 1: because Anthony Hitchins was still gone four games to start 1190 00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:33,120 Speaker 1: your season. Granted everyone was like, oh, Hitchens and Lee 1191 00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:35,360 Speaker 1: haven't played together. Well, the problem I mean, and the 1192 00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:38,040 Speaker 1: problem is they rarely do. And the problem is Tyrons 1193 00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:40,080 Speaker 1: had back problems for the last two years. It's it's 1194 00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:42,239 Speaker 1: not about what you're starting twenty two can do. It's 1195 00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:45,440 Speaker 1: about fortifying everything behind them, which they haven't done well. 1196 00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:47,239 Speaker 1: All Right, and in my next question for you guys, 1197 00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:50,400 Speaker 1: if you're Jason Garrett, what approach should you take in 1198 00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:54,759 Speaker 1: this draft? Their draft meets start, say April ninth, what 1199 00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:57,560 Speaker 1: approach if you're if you just play Jason Garrett, what 1200 00:56:57,600 --> 00:56:59,920 Speaker 1: should your approach be in this draft. I'm not gamble 1201 00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:02,360 Speaker 1: and we're not doing any long term gambles, no project 1202 00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:05,560 Speaker 1: betting on We're not betting on nerves to regenerate like 1203 00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:08,319 Speaker 1: things like that. If we that's on, that can't happen. 1204 00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:10,480 Speaker 1: And I think they all know that. Yeah, I think 1205 00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:13,360 Speaker 1: everyone knows that what the deal is here, free agency 1206 00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:16,080 Speaker 1: is not over. But if we can if we're just 1207 00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:18,960 Speaker 1: going to assume that they're not gonna make any major plays, 1208 00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:20,880 Speaker 1: if they're not going to add any major players to 1209 00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:22,920 Speaker 1: the team as it is right now, they need to 1210 00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:27,000 Speaker 1: come out of this draft with three starter caliber, like 1211 00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:31,000 Speaker 1: quality players. I'm there. I'm with that. If you can 1212 00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:33,920 Speaker 1: give me Dak and Zeke and then one other badass, 1213 00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:35,240 Speaker 1: I'm good with it. I'll tell you what I'm with 1214 00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:38,400 Speaker 1: you if you can get me too with Kat on this, 1215 00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:40,760 Speaker 1: I'm not taking any If I'm Jason Garrett, i am 1216 00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:44,200 Speaker 1: not letting them take any projects I'm saying, listen, move up, 1217 00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:47,920 Speaker 1: give me guys. Yeah, gi me. I'm being so we're 1218 00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:50,680 Speaker 1: going up for real. Qual I'm standing in that up. 1219 00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:54,040 Speaker 1: I know my jobs on the line. I'm gonna go 1220 00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:56,440 Speaker 1: down in flames if that's If that's the case, I'm 1221 00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:58,720 Speaker 1: gonna try and be as aggressive and get me as 1222 00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:01,000 Speaker 1: many players as you can here. They can they can handle, 1223 00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:04,520 Speaker 1: get a lot. Get a left guard though, yeah, that's 1224 00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:07,600 Speaker 1: get to get a good solid For the record, I 1225 00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:09,760 Speaker 1: don't seem runs the ball one way or another. They're 1226 00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:13,680 Speaker 1: not done. Yeah, I mean they signed Thompson earlier. They'll 1227 00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:15,920 Speaker 1: there's a few more signings left to come. Thank you 1228 00:58:16,040 --> 00:58:19,200 Speaker 1: very much. Taylor coming in takes place though. We need 1229 00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:21,600 Speaker 1: the hamhorn. Yeah, exactly. I want to thank you again, 1230 00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:24,560 Speaker 1: Taylor Stern. I want to thank Katie, Kevin turnerper coming 1231 00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:27,080 Speaker 1: in sitting in for Dane Bruger, David Hillman. Thank you. 1232 00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:30,439 Speaker 1: We will be back Monday ten am for the Draft show. 1233 00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:35,000 Speaker 1: Keep watching the tape, Polkes. This has been a production 1234 00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:38,840 Speaker 1: of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.