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Speaker 2: As a nation, we've mostly forgotten about the devastation heroin

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Speaker 2: Without taking heroin into account, one cannot understand African American

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Speaker 2: A nineteen fifty five government report called the city's drug

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Speaker 1: Heroin began to devour.

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Speaker 2: The city's poor black neighborho studies at the DC Central

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Speaker 2: These addicts were overwhelmingly likely to be young black men,

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Speaker 2: drug didn't simply destroy its users' own lives. Each new

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Speaker 2: were forced to turn against their own. Hey, welcome to

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Speaker 2: and bullet ball Extreme And the excerpt that I read

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Speaker 2: A polarizing time where everyone's getting really caught up in

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Speaker 2: Yeah, google it again, We've done it before on the show. Like,

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Speaker 1: If you if you truly can, yeah, google google it.

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Speaker 2: And any fucking city in the world in America, it's

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Speaker 4: And the thing is, I know, for a lot of

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Speaker 5: A lot of times these places, a lot of times

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Speaker 5: But the violence still happens.

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Speaker 2: And the last thing I'll say about that is police

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Speaker 2: Maybe not quote unquote long enough and punitive enough for

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Oh thank you, baby.

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Speaker 5: You know what. The guilt is gone.

444
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Speaker 4: You can come on down, sit in the front row

445
00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:55,560
Speaker 4: with the rest of the Saints, turn around and judge

446
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Speaker 4: everybody else.

447
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Speaker 5: Sometimes I'm judging you until you leave a five star

448
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Speaker 5: of you.

449
00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:01,640
Speaker 2: People say that they hate New Christians. I say, make

450
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Speaker 2: them hate new donators and.

451
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Speaker 1: New five star reviewers.

452
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Speaker 2: A new you know all the people that's leaving us,

453
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Speaker 2: the new five star reviews. Y'all get to beat the

454
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Speaker 2: up NOx just like Wow, I can't believe this spol Jr.

455
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Speaker 4: Arms too, your nose up and I can't believe them senters.

456
00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:23,479
Speaker 2: Y'all still listening to this secular music, like show up

457
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Speaker 2: and say it, juve I.

458
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Speaker 4: We allow you to judge away like you've been here

459
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Speaker 4: for years.

460
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Speaker 5: We don't care when you became a part of a club.

461
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Speaker 5: You're a part of the club.

462
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Speaker 2: Now, always listening five stars, says aka Ac Underscore to

463
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Speaker 2: my friends. This is a long overdue review for the

464
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Speaker 2: best podcast out there. Step one five star review, Step

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Speaker 2: two going premium. Thank you both for all your hard work.

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: I hope you made it the premium and I hope

468
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Speaker 2: you're enjoying it. Lots of good stuff over there. Okay,

469
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Speaker 2: let's see we got comments on the website, all right.

470
00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:04,840
Speaker 1: Episode twenty one seventeen was.

471
00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:08,480
Speaker 2: Called burn it All Down My mom. My mom was

472
00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:11,600
Speaker 2: very inspired by this episode. She text me and she

473
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:13,920
Speaker 2: was like, yeah, I'm don'na care about them people, businesses.

474
00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:16,719
Speaker 2: They got insurance, burn it all down. I said, yes, Mama,

475
00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:20,040
Speaker 2: that's what I'm talking about. And I said, and then

476
00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:23,280
Speaker 2: burn the kids too, and the families. And she was like, no, no,

477
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:27,399
Speaker 2: that's too far. I said, I said, you coon, Okay.

478
00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:30,240
Speaker 1: I can't believe you wrote it. You text me and

479
00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:31,200
Speaker 1: you not woking me.

480
00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:35,760
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm burning all the children, the dogs, do the pets.

481
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:38,680
Speaker 1: Everyone can get it up in their house. You can't

482
00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:39,680
Speaker 1: go too far.

483
00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:43,240
Speaker 2: Wow, y'all are not y'all not black for the black freedom?

484
00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:44,400
Speaker 2: I see.

485
00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:46,240
Speaker 5: My third eye is closed.

486
00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:50,159
Speaker 2: I'm the only one on the podcast for black liberation apparently,

487
00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:53,000
Speaker 2: and the only one in my family that really truly

488
00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:53,680
Speaker 2: believes in this.

489
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Speaker 1: I guess. No, that's sad to see.

490
00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:00,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, she said, now I'm gonna have to kick your ass,

491
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:01,640
Speaker 2: so we'll see how.

492
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:02,160
Speaker 1: That works out.

493
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:09,159
Speaker 2: Thank God, she's practicing social distancing, and you know she

494
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,480
Speaker 2: had to whip it from six feet away. All Right,

495
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:15,840
Speaker 2: I'm gonna this is the first time I appreciate the

496
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:16,600
Speaker 2: social distance.

497
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Speaker 1: Anyway, we had comments.

498
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Speaker 2: MS barn seventy two says, I forgot to leave my

499
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:22,960
Speaker 2: feedback for last week.

500
00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:23,480
Speaker 1: My bad.

501
00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:26,160
Speaker 2: I've never went live on my Facebook and Instagram because

502
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:28,000
Speaker 2: there's nothing that's interesting.

503
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:28,800
Speaker 1: That I would go live for.

504
00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:31,520
Speaker 2: Before going live, I wish to God that there would

505
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:33,320
Speaker 2: be a prompt to ask if you are sure if

506
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Speaker 2: you want to go live. I also wish there was

507
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:37,680
Speaker 2: a filter for those that do go live on Facebook

508
00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:40,360
Speaker 2: and Instagram. I will never forget my cousin went live

509
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:43,159
Speaker 2: on Facebook at the hotel where she caught her husband cheating.

510
00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:46,879
Speaker 1: What just shit, I need.

511
00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:49,560
Speaker 2: To follow your cousin everything from knocking on the door

512
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:52,000
Speaker 2: her trying to get in to see the side piece

513
00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:54,400
Speaker 2: that her husband had to him shoving her out.

514
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:55,720
Speaker 1: The room and slamming the door in her face.

515
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,440
Speaker 2: I'm like, no one wants to see this mess, but

516
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:01,760
Speaker 2: there it is for all of the internets to see.

517
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:04,240
Speaker 1: Don't let me get it on my high horse too much.

518
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:06,560
Speaker 2: I had the videos, say for my sister to see

519
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 2: as she doesn't have Facebook.

520
00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:08,479
Speaker 1: Lol.

521
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,960
Speaker 4: Wow, So you go live and like yeah, I'm live.

522
00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 5: What and then it turns into it and then it

523
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:15,960
Speaker 5: turns into a debaccle.

524
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's stuff that happens sometimes on Facebook and Twitter

525
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:20,800
Speaker 2: and shit where you be like this is wrong.

526
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 1: I shouldn't even be looking at this all. Right, click

527
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:25,880
Speaker 1: say as you know the other.

528
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:28,359
Speaker 2: My first, lem me send it to a friend on't text,

529
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:30,440
Speaker 2: and then we should both say we're wrong.

530
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:32,360
Speaker 1: We shouldn't even be looking at this. This is terrible.

531
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:38,000
Speaker 2: But yeah, that's crazy man. And a lot of it

532
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 2: does have filters. I don't use them, but I think

533
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,239
Speaker 2: you can use some of the filters, like you know,

534
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:46,320
Speaker 2: over your face kind of like snapchat and shit.

535
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:48,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, and doesn't it act you like when you click it?

536
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,000
Speaker 4: Don't just just go live? Don't it prompt you? Like?

537
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,040
Speaker 1: I mean you have to for me.

538
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:55,280
Speaker 2: I know, you hit a button and then you you know,

539
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,920
Speaker 2: turn it like you get live on your on the

540
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Speaker 2: place where you make a new then you got that

541
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:01,359
Speaker 2: live again.

542
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,399
Speaker 1: So but I mean, it's just look the thing. You

543
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:05,680
Speaker 1: gotta realize some people.

544
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 2: Gonna hit it twelve times and still show you their

545
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:08,720
Speaker 2: husband cheating.

546
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:10,159
Speaker 6: You gotta don't care.

547
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, they just don't care the way you care about it. Also,

548
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 2: why the arveys catch astray. I don't see our res

549
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:18,720
Speaker 2: sponsoring homophobia. I don't see them making contributions to the

550
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:20,679
Speaker 2: Grand Cheetos campaign.

551
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 5: Ain't nobody else?

552
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, they don't have to listen. When you have drug money,

553
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 1: you can't have it on you don't have no moral stances.

554
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,200
Speaker 2: You can't have it on the books when you laundering

555
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,640
Speaker 2: drug money what you're trying to do in this community?

556
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 1: Don't care. We know it's from the streets.

557
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,160
Speaker 2: I know that they probably using the heroin and crack

558
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:39,399
Speaker 2: money right now funding Army's.

559
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:41,159
Speaker 5: They don't care what you want as long as the

560
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:41,919
Speaker 5: drugs boom.

561
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:42,399
Speaker 1: Right?

562
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 2: How you gonna try to act like, oh, they don't

563
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 2: put it on the books. Oh you're telling me a

564
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 2: place that has no customers but somehow had the money

565
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 2: to buy a little Caesars doesn't have money on the books.

566
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:53,400
Speaker 1: Oh wow, oh.

567
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:57,440
Speaker 2: Wow, so shocking. Ours are just sitting slicing rosebes making sound?

568
00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 1: Is mine? This business? Then?

569
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:01,160
Speaker 2: It caught it straight from you, right you? I must

570
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 2: be with Eve on this and support Arby's.

571
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:05,119
Speaker 1: Go Arvey's, ha ha.

572
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,240
Speaker 2: Eve says, for the record, I hate burger King, but

573
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:10,919
Speaker 2: Arvy's is still delicious.

574
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 1: Uh.

575
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 5: What y'all agree?

576
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:14,639
Speaker 1: I can't believe.

577
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 2: I can't believe Eve hates burger King and loves Arvey's.

578
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,480
Speaker 2: But that should tell you a lot about how terrible

579
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:24,920
Speaker 2: burger king is. People that love Arvey's hate burger King.

580
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:25,680
Speaker 1: What does that say?

581
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,359
Speaker 5: About Burger King says a lot mm.

582
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 2: Mmm, Lakita says, laugh my ass off. These niggers are people.

583
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:34,880
Speaker 2: Rod got me hearing that shit. Whenever I see white

584
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 2: people trying, then I laugh. I can't help it, but

585
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 2: overall I think it's great.

586
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 1: Uh.

587
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 2: The pole was, has a white person reached out to

588
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 2: check on you in these times? And so she talks

589
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 2: about that, brother Pole, I don't have any white friends

590
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 2: unless you count colleagues who think.

591
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 1: We're friends as right. Isn't that every black.

592
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 2: Person, every black person with a job around white people

593
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 2: have the motherfucker work that think y'all cold because they

594
00:28:58,160 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 2: don't know shit about you.

595
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 5: Like it's always superficial.

596
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 1: All we talk about is traffic, sports, in the weather.

597
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 1: We're not friends.

598
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 4: And if we talk about anything that about we talk

599
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 4: about your kids and your children we want to talk about mine.

600
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, we are not friends, okay.

601
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 2: As I told the chad, I was in need of

602
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:16,959
Speaker 2: a desk and found one on cragslist.

603
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 1: She had to know I was black. My name is Lakita.

604
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 2: When I arrived with my best friend, she the seller,

605
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 2: a white woman told us that she felt terribly about

606
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 2: everything that's happening and asked if she could give us

607
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 2: a hug. I gotta learn how to say no. She

608
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 2: hugged us like we were off the war. Oh not

609
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:35,240
Speaker 2: during the COVID no things, then told us she loved us.

610
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 1: Nigga, you don't know me.

611
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 2: When I went to pay her for the desk, she

612
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 2: handed it back to me and told me buy something

613
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 2: else with it. Her husband and daughter put the desk

614
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 2: in a friends truck and we left. Oh wait, hold on,

615
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 2: I take everything back. You did right, You got free, You.

616
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 1: Got free desk. She was really sweet.

617
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:54,960
Speaker 2: Then when she when we went far enough away, we

618
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 2: started cracking up.

619
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Speaker 1: She did nothing wrong.

620
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Speaker 2: It's just odd that suddenly our blackness is a get

621
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 2: free shit white's card, like they suddenly realized where people.

622
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 2: She texted me later saying that she hoped she get

623
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 2: to see me again. I think they're again for the

624
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 2: free desk.

625
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 1: Nigga.

626
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 2: I will never see you again unless you got some

627
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 2: more freciation. I will never see you again. This is

628
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 2: not the relationship now. My goodness, y'all, y'all had the

629
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 2: white people act too guilty and then you be like,

630
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 2: who did.

631
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 1: You call a nigga? You know what I mean?

632
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 2: We're like you are, like, what happened to bring about

633
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:33,240
Speaker 2: all of this? I didn't need you to give me

634
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 2: a whole free desk, Like, what what kind of fucking

635
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,480
Speaker 2: Confederate flag did you just take down before I walked

636
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 2: in the door?

637
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 1: That made you feel like I need to.

638
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 5: Cover my tracks, get them off the scent?

639
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:46,320
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know.

640
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:48,960
Speaker 2: It's like it's too like you swung too depending on

641
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:50,680
Speaker 2: what swung too hard to our side.

642
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:52,960
Speaker 1: But I don't blame you. The white guilt is.

643
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,240
Speaker 2: Fantastic, right, you better get it while you're It's like

644
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 2: a great groupon self, you know.

645
00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 5: Come on, everybody gotta.

646
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 2: Sell flash sail till miss a night, Racism, everything half

647
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 2: off of blacks. Come on, you know, keep the pressure

648
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 2: on them too, y'all keep bringing up anything they did. Okay,

649
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 2: I'm now, even though I think it's petty, I'm accepting

650
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 2: a lot of these petty petty you know, I don't

651
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 2: appreciate this moment.

652
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, me too.

653
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, because even Uber was like, if you're a black

654
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 4: owned business, we are waving your feet.

655
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 2: H I'm like, well, welcome to the party of Uber

656
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 2: eat Static says for the oh the pole the poe

657
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 2: was has a white person reached out to check on

658
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 2: you in these times.

659
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 5: Cam no, Okay.

660
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 2: The pole is yes, no, or I'm a white person

661
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 2: who has reached out, or I'm a white person who

662
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 2: hasn't reached out.

663
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 1: Okay.

664
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 2: Fifty three percent of our audience says yes, a white

665
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 2: person has reached out to them in these uncertain times. Wow,

666
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 2: that's a lot of blacks. Half of the audience Wow.

667
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 2: Forty percent say no, the whites have not reached out. Now,

668
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 2: that could just be the day know you well enough

669
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 2: to know I don't need to be bothering this motherfucker,

670
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 2: or it could mean that you don't have no white friend.

671
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 2: I am a white person who has reached out five percent. Now,

672
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 2: it's not a lot of white people listening to our shows,

673
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 2: so that's actually pretty high. And two percent I'm a

674
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 2: white person who hasn't reached out. And I appreciate y'all

675
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 2: keeping it real, okay, because I don't want it, like,

676
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 2: do better without me.

677
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 1: I don't need no fucking apology.

678
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 2: Static says it was my boss, and I was sort

679
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 2: of caught off guard because I was expecting him to

680
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 2: talk about work shit. He did seem genuine and to me,

681
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 2: it's better than that. He cares and supports the movement.

682
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 2: I told him I appreciate him checking in, but at

683
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 2: the same time, I don't want to be the black

684
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 2: guy at work. That's to explain racism everyone right. Just

685
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 2: thinking about it makes me tired. So does all this

686
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 2: double thinking?

687
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 1: Uh so, Karen, not even from work?

688
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 2: Did you get anyone reaching out k thees in certain times,

689
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 2: Katania says or is a Katana. I had a couple

690
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 2: of white and brown although I know the Pole didn't

691
00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 2: ask that. However, I thought it would be nice to add.

692
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 2: Then friends reach out and I appreciate it. One of

693
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 2: them is one of my besties from when I worked

694
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 2: in residence life. He has always had my back since

695
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 2: the day we met, and he just wanted to make

696
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 2: sure that I knew I could reach out to him

697
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:16,480
Speaker 2: if I needed to talk. Have a tendency to self

698
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 2: isolate when I'm feeling negative emotions, so it's really nice

699
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 2: to him to reach out. Even in his reaching out,

700
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 2: he kept putting my feelings in the forefront, asking if

701
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 2: I needed to reschedule or FaceTime call. Do the need

702
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 2: more space so if I didn't feel like being social

703
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 2: at the moment. Another white person. Another white friend. He

704
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 2: was my first kiss back in college. My parents didn't

705
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 2: allow me. Today middle in high school reached out, which

706
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 2: surprised me since he voted for Trump. Oh man, what

707
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 2: was that like, the first kiss the dude vote for Trump? Like, oh,

708
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:48,719
Speaker 2: I can't imagine the head trip. I'll be like, I

709
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 2: have let black people down with my kissing. Okay, this

710
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 2: man here, it didn't even work.

711
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 1: Okay.

712
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 2: I feel like if you date a white person, they

713
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 2: gotta be liberal for the rest of their life life regardless.

714
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 1: That's the rules. Once you go black, you don't go

715
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 1: back politically. Okay.

716
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:09,359
Speaker 5: Oh lord, I take that back. I did have one

717
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 5: two people.

718
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 1: Check in on me, oh okay, but.

719
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:15,840
Speaker 4: They were kind of like fancy you know fans. They

720
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:17,799
Speaker 4: were just caught, you know, we're just checking on you,

721
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:19,719
Speaker 4: you know, album.

722
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:21,879
Speaker 5: And I thought about that. I was like, no, no, no.

723
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:23,839
Speaker 5: Then I thought about that. I'm like, yes, you didn't care,

724
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:25,839
Speaker 5: it counts, it counts, it counts.

725
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,920
Speaker 4: And I talked to them and I thank them, you know,

726
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 4: full action, you know, just checking in, And a lot

727
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:32,880
Speaker 4: of times they were like you don't even have to

728
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:34,759
Speaker 4: respond back, Like if you don't want to respond back,

729
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:36,280
Speaker 4: it's no obligation.

730
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 2: I'll be feeling bad because like I don't want to

731
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,279
Speaker 2: discourage them because some other black person might need it,

732
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 2: but I'll be wanted to just tell them, like I

733
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 2: didn't need this, I'm good like you. You don't need

734
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 2: to do it, like honestly, don't do this.

735
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 4: It's not one of those things where it bothers and

736
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 4: irritates me anything like that, you know. I'm just like,

737
00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 4: it's almost like a shock or surprise because I know

738
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 4: for me, I just kind of keep to myself.

739
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 5: I don't really bother nobody or anything like that.

740
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 4: So I was shocked and I was like, okay, you know,

741
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 4: And it's one of those things to where I'm just

742
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:14,360
Speaker 4: glad that they are good, truly good, kind of hearted

743
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 4: people out there.

744
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,879
Speaker 5: But it's different between those people.

745
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:20,759
Speaker 4: And like somebody at work with somebody outside outside of

746
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:22,760
Speaker 4: that circle, I would look at them like they but crazy,

747
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:23,920
Speaker 4: like the hell you con.

748
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 2: It's just so much it's just so much white guilt

749
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:28,799
Speaker 2: capital out there in the world right now, and I

750
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 2: know we need to take advantage of it, but I'm not.

751
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:34,440
Speaker 1: I don't like it. I don't like taking advantage of

752
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:35,799
Speaker 1: it for myself. It's just not my thing.

753
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 4: Oh and that's fine, but particularly at work, because I'm like, hey, nigga,

754
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 4: we at work, like here is not the time nor

755
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 4: the place to talk about it.

756
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 5: No, I'm good.

757
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 1: I've been keeping my distance.

758
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 2: During the tex exchange, he started, he stated that he

759
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:49,359
Speaker 2: thought that the media was making racism be a bigger thing.

760
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 1: Dude, it really is in today's society.

761
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:54,720
Speaker 2: At the siting a couple of examples of systemic racism

762
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:57,400
Speaker 2: redline of property taxes used the fund school district, and

763
00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,799
Speaker 2: pro police brutality, he seemed to understand how racism is

764
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:02,839
Speaker 2: more convert now. When I brought up Megan Markle, how

765
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 2: Megan Markle was treated in the press when her and

766
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:07,840
Speaker 2: Prince henryt public with their relationship, especially with the almost

767
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:11,320
Speaker 2: out of Compton headline, it was nice to hear from him. However,

768
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,319
Speaker 2: they exchange also confirmed that it was the best that

769
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:15,320
Speaker 2: we did not enter too serious or medical relationship.

770
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 1: Well not just that, but like I would be a little.

771
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 2: Mistrusting of that because I worried that you hit me

772
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 2: up to soundboard or weird ass arguments off of and

773
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 2: in this exchange it ended up with you working essentially

774
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 2: because now you're educating this man on these Now I'm

775
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 2: not saying if you don't feel it was work, it's

776
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:42,319
Speaker 2: not work. But I'm just saying for me, it would

777
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 2: feel like work to then't have to be like, well,

778
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 2: now I'm talking about redlining and now I'm talking about this.

779
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 2: You know, it's like the other version of the woke

780
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:52,719
Speaker 2: white person that I really don't fuck with is the

781
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:55,880
Speaker 2: well I mean Jesse Jackson and now Sharpton and just

782
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:58,799
Speaker 2: Race Baters, right, they're just making big deal out of

783
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,360
Speaker 2: nothing and a lot of times woke in every other area.

784
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 2: But I'm like, no, I now have to do work

785
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 2: to tell you that these men are great men who

786
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 2: have dedicated their entire lives of social justice and their

787
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:13,439
Speaker 2: forefathers of the movements that you see now. So even

788
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 2: when a black person disrespects them, many of that, much

789
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:19,279
Speaker 2: of that is through a lens of media attacks on

790
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:22,359
Speaker 2: them for thirty forty years, so that even black people

791
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 2: don't really understand and know what kind of work they've done,

792
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 2: and especially if you're indoctrinated in the whiteness, you've learned

793
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 2: to not like them.

794
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:31,439
Speaker 1: You know, the same thing.

795
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:34,239
Speaker 2: Happened with me with Gloria already, Like I learned to

796
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 2: not like her without thinking about it. It was very subconscious.

797
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:39,280
Speaker 2: But then when I started reading up and seeing stuff

798
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:41,279
Speaker 2: about it, I was like, why the fuck did I was?

799
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 2: I told to roll my eyes whenever her name came up.

800
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 2: She's been fighting for victims her whole fucking life.

801
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:49,799
Speaker 5: Correct, And also I think for me.

802
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 4: And the people that did reach out to me, it

803
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:57,400
Speaker 4: wasn't like an educational thing, so which is completely different

804
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 4: than you than somebody contacted you and they're actually wanting

805
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:05,799
Speaker 4: to pull information out of you.

806
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 5: You know, it was a true a how you doing?

807
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 1: Yeah?

808
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 2: But like I said, I'm not I don't I don't

809
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:14,399
Speaker 2: want you to feel up tight about like accusing white

810
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 2: people doing something.

811
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:18,879
Speaker 1: I don't care. I literally don't care.

812
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. I don't care if they

813
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:22,839
Speaker 2: do it. I don't care if they don't do it.

814
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 2: I'm not one of the black people that different black

815
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 2: people need different shit, And I want to recognize that

816
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 2: because I don't want to make black people feel bad

817
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 2: or weak because they felt like I need to be

818
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 2: acknowledged from the white people in my life that they

819
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:38,840
Speaker 2: understand that I'm going through something different than them, and

820
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 2: it's because of my race. And I've seen people knocking

821
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 2: folks fulfilling that and I'm not gonna knock you. I

822
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:47,800
Speaker 2: don't share it. But that doesn't make me better in

823
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 2: or anything. It's just different, you know, like some of

824
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,319
Speaker 2: us process it differently in their space. For all of that,

825
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 2: d D says Narry, a white person has reached out

826
00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 2: to check on me, and that's soly because I don't

827
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 2: talk to or keep white people as friends hashtag winning.

828
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 2: Besides white folks check checking on me specifically would do

829
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:07,440
Speaker 2: nothing for me in my.

830
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 1: Community as a whole. Yeah, I mean, I hear you.

831
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 2: White people do buy drinks, though I do miss that

832
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:16,840
Speaker 2: they are quick as fucked by the whole.

833
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 1: Just I don't know why. Yeah, that's I'm better than

834
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 1: buying your drink.

835
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I remember, I think it was Roger's birthday.

836
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 4: One of the places we love to go to. The

837
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 4: dude who normally bartends when we used to go for

838
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:34,839
Speaker 4: lunch was bartending for dinner. For dinner, and he didn't

839
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 4: know it was Rosey's birthday. We went and he was

840
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:38,320
Speaker 4: so happy to see us. He actually gave us that

841
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:38,959
Speaker 4: drinks free.

842
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 1: They just love it. I don't know, uh.

843
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 2: Alego says nope, but mainly because a few white people

844
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:46,239
Speaker 2: that are close to me are pretty much ride or

845
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:48,400
Speaker 2: die and they know better when they do check on me.

846
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:50,880
Speaker 2: It's a normal last Tuesday and we haven't talked for

847
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 2: a minute. Alicia says, okay, so y'all gonna stop hating

848
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:54,799
Speaker 2: on burger King.

849
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:58,759
Speaker 1: Oh God, here we go. Burger King truthers, Why has

850
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 1: burger King ever done the whopper? Is this shit? Me

851
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:02,880
Speaker 1: and my son be tearing.

852
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:04,759
Speaker 2: It up well before I went on to die, and

853
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 2: the nuggets are actually good. I love burger King, and

854
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 2: the one by my house stayed with the line.

855
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 1: Humph.

856
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 2: They stay with a line because they have terrible service

857
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:17,720
Speaker 2: burg King. Burd King has to make everything the second

858
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 2: you order it because they don't actually sell food.

859
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 1: That's never there's.

860
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 2: Never gonna need to pre make a whopper because hey,

861
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 2: it might be three four hours before we sell the shit,

862
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 2: so just only start cooking when the person orders it.

863
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 2: I know, I've waited thirty minutes to get my food

864
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 2: before from burger King.

865
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 1: We have waited before. Like, you're not gonna fool me, y'all.

866
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:41,399
Speaker 2: Y'all always trying to gas like somebody into liking these

867
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:44,840
Speaker 2: shitty ass franchises. And I won't stand for it. Okay,

868
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:47,759
Speaker 2: I just need y'all to be honest with yourselves. There's

869
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 2: never aligned for Arby's. There's just a long wait. There's

870
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 2: a difference. There's never aligned for Burger King.

871
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:54,280
Speaker 1: It's just a long wait.

872
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:56,920
Speaker 2: It's a different I've never seen a lobby full of

873
00:40:56,960 --> 00:41:00,839
Speaker 2: people because oh like when Popeye's had chicken sandwich, that's

874
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 2: a lobby full of people because they can't keep up

875
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 2: with the with the people that are ordering so much.

876
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 2: But there's never a line for Burger King because of that.

877
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:12,799
Speaker 2: It's a line because of service is shitty anyway, I

878
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 2: hope you get paid, Alisha, Alisha Burger King, I know

879
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 2: you worked there, Alisha King, Alisha King out here selling burgers.

880
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna trick the black community and eating that stuff.

881
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:30,400
Speaker 2: Alisha, not on my watch, Amerror says nope, And I

882
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 2: don't want it. I want black people to reach out

883
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 2: to me because we understand this pain. Why look for

884
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:38,359
Speaker 2: sympathy and validation from someone who has to learn that

885
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:41,280
Speaker 2: black people are murdered and made from a viral video.

886
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:43,880
Speaker 2: Many black people know that police brutality and other facets

887
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:46,399
Speaker 2: of white supremacy are real things that interfere with our lives.

888
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:49,840
Speaker 2: And a random person slash friend asking are you okay?

889
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 1: How can I help?

890
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:53,400
Speaker 2: It's shallow and the most unhelpful for me. I personally

891
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:56,280
Speaker 2: think that many of the black people that are asking

892
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 2: for white people to check up on them might living

893
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 2: spaces where they get little face to face interaction the

894
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:03,840
Speaker 2: black people that can comfort them and validate their feelings,

895
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 2: so they need to ask non black people to do so,

896
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:07,880
Speaker 2: which is sad, and you end up talking to a

897
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 2: brick while that doesn't understand because we will never they

898
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 2: will never have this experience. I personally don't have white

899
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,840
Speaker 2: friends because I grew up learning Black history and African

900
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:19,759
Speaker 2: schools from grades K through eight, then American history in

901
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:20,320
Speaker 2: high school.

902
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:20,920
Speaker 1: So hokey.

903
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 2: I thought all the whites were the KKK adjusted until

904
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 2: proven otherwise.

905
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 1: Lol.

906
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:28,319
Speaker 2: I think people want to preserve relationships they have had

907
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 2: in their lifetimes, in which that now they are seeing

908
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 2: might not serve them in the long run. It's a

909
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:36,319
Speaker 2: sad thing, but it's part of this progression that people want.

910
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:39,479
Speaker 2: Not everyone's going to progress with us it's a very

911
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 2: thoughtful response to Mayor. I will say, yeah, it could

912
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:49,240
Speaker 2: be that people were more surrounded by more of whiteness,

913
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:50,880
Speaker 2: because you know, it's kind of a privilege to do

914
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 2: what you did, to be taught how you were taught,

915
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 2: and most of us, you know, especially that young K

916
00:42:56,600 --> 00:43:00,920
Speaker 2: through eight, there's a lot of people that just don't

917
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:04,920
Speaker 2: have that social circle around them to be insulated in

918
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 2: times like this. And then also it reminds me of

919
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:09,880
Speaker 2: an article we covered a long time ago. It was

920
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 2: about black kids at the Ivy League school and how

921
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:17,240
Speaker 2: they were dealing with racism, and they made a video

922
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:20,440
Speaker 2: and the video was like, you know, all these microaggressions,

923
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 2: you know, like oh are you from Africa?

924
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 1: What part of Africa are you from?

925
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 2: Or you know, your name sounds weird, and it was

926
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:32,279
Speaker 2: all these things that for me personally, because I haven't

927
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 2: experienced too much of that at my first response is

928
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 2: just laugh it off, like what these aren't even problems.

929
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 2: This isn't even like real racism, like you know I'm

930
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 2: thinking of, you know, like someone putting their hands on you,

931
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:47,319
Speaker 2: someone calling you the N word, things like this, Right,

932
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 2: But I remember either the same episode as we talked

933
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 2: about it or the feedback show when we talked about it.

934
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 1: I remember being coming around and being like, wait, I'm tripping.

935
00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:00,760
Speaker 2: Okay, this is the fight that they have to fight

936
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 2: where they are at. So so what is the solution.

937
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:06,800
Speaker 2: They can't complain because they're black at the Ivy League school.

938
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 1: That makes no sense.

939
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:13,320
Speaker 2: And if their fight is not gonna look dissimilar to mine,

940
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:16,760
Speaker 2: like if their fight isn't take down this Confederate statue.

941
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 1: But their fight is you know this teacher keeps referring to.

942
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 2: Black kids by certain you know, certain things or whatever,

943
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 2: then that's cool. You know, if you if your school

944
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 2: classmate thinks it's funny to say you're one of the

945
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 2: good ones, and you want to tell them that that's

946
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:38,920
Speaker 2: not okay, Who the fuck am I to be like,

947
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 2: But there's not a real problem. It's a real problem

948
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:43,440
Speaker 2: for you. So I'll say that to say, if people

949
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:45,279
Speaker 2: have a lot of white folks in their lives and

950
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 2: they feeling like disrespected or they're feeling like these white

951
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 2: people aren't stepping up enough or they're not saying enough,

952
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:53,400
Speaker 2: that's the fight they have to fight. And I can

953
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 2: see why they would be like, yeah, say something or

954
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:58,279
Speaker 2: I'm not fucking with you, so reach out to me.

955
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 2: And I also want to see on your social media

956
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:04,680
Speaker 2: and in your life that you support my life.

957
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 1: Yeah.

958
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:09,479
Speaker 4: And also I think for a lot of people, their

959
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 4: proximity to whiteness, these things.

960
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:17,839
Speaker 5: Happen to them. These things happen to everybody kind.

961
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 4: Of across the board, but these things happen to them

962
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 4: on a very consistent basis. And that ship, which you know,

963
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:26,360
Speaker 4: a lot of people are like, that's quote unquote not

964
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:26,839
Speaker 4: a big deal.

965
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 5: Everybody has to deal with that ship. But the sad

966
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:30,320
Speaker 5: part is that.

967
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 4: Most people who've dealt with it, you know, and I'm

968
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 4: not complaining, but like it's I deal with deeper shit.

969
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:39,400
Speaker 4: It's sad that we just deal with it. They're like, no,

970
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:41,399
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna deal with it, and I'm addressing it.

971
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:44,919
Speaker 4: Because most white people do that shit so small.

972
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 5: Micro pinpointing, you can't tie it down. It's quote unquote nebulous.

973
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 5: Is it hadn't really formed.

974
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 4: They do that shit and in order because that small

975
00:45:57,080 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 4: shit turns into the larger shit, and so you have

976
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 4: to fix the small things and nip it in the

977
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 4: bud before it becomes something big. And I know if

978
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:08,800
Speaker 4: I had a closer proximity to whiteness, I would probably

979
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 4: feel the same way, right.

980
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 1: So, yeah, but I can understand.

981
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:17,359
Speaker 2: Sean says, I'm a white guy and I checked on

982
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:19,440
Speaker 2: the d for the pandemic, but not for this.

983
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:21,799
Speaker 1: Those that I care for know I'm here if they

984
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:22,239
Speaker 1: need me.

985
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 2: I feel that me calling at this time would be

986
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 2: more of a burden than the comfort.

987
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 4: Yeah.

988
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:29,439
Speaker 1: Only you know the people in your.

989
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 2: Life, you know, Brittany m Brittany M sorry says people

990
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 2: from elementary school are checking in on me, and yeah,

991
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:40,480
Speaker 2: that's the ones that are weird to me. Is like,

992
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 2: I don't talk to you in the first place. I

993
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 2: would never expect you to do something.

994
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:46,719
Speaker 3: You know.

995
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, And that's the thing. I don't want an expectation, right.

996
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 2: Also, this girl from grad school that my roommate's best

997
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 2: friend was friends with, I kind of knew her, but

998
00:46:57,080 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 2: I kind of wonder if she is getting us confused?

999
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:01,360
Speaker 1: Was Lol, it's been weird.

1000
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:07,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, Layla says two snaps and a twist. I hate

1001
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:12,360
Speaker 2: this channeling my inner men on film protesting tees. Don't

1002
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 2: check on me, check on your people, because I'm waiting

1003
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:19,719
Speaker 2: on a Karen to approach me. There was a situation

1004
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:22,360
Speaker 2: here well in South Holland, Illinois, nothing but blacks in

1005
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:22,960
Speaker 2: this suburb.

1006
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:26,400
Speaker 1: The fuck she thought, And it's an instagram.

1007
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 2: I appreciate the allys and I just hope it's sincere

1008
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:32,839
Speaker 2: not done because it's trending. Yeah, I think a lot

1009
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:34,719
Speaker 2: of this stuff we're seeing right now is because it's

1010
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:37,120
Speaker 2: just a moment, and this is people hopping on the

1011
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 2: bandwagon and we'll see what remains afterwards. That's why I'm

1012
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:43,800
Speaker 2: just encouraging black people to seize everything they can get now,

1013
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:46,480
Speaker 2: because I don't expect this good will to last forever.

1014
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:50,400
Speaker 2: And when it's gone, it's gone. So hopefully, if you

1015
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:53,840
Speaker 2: wanted that promotion, if you if a motherfucker called you

1016
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 2: the N word in third grade, get their ass now

1017
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:01,400
Speaker 2: your better. Ms Arn says, Oh my god, my former

1018
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 2: manager had a how are you doing meeting with all

1019
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 2: of the black folks in this store. While some of

1020
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 2: my friends were okay with it, others were like, what

1021
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 2: the fuck is the dispretending hippie doing. It's a lot

1022
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 2: and the sad part is that there's no formal way

1023
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:14,759
Speaker 2: to do this. Me on the other hand, I have

1024
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 2: reached out to my friends of color to ask how

1025
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:19,719
Speaker 2: they are doing, and we are all tired, we are

1026
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:21,759
Speaker 2: all beat up from life and just in need of

1027
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 2: a church hug.

1028
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:26,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just an interesting time, man, I thought.

1029
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:28,920
Speaker 4: And everybody kind of deals with different It's one of

1030
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:31,839
Speaker 4: those things where there's no protocol for white people to

1031
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:34,400
Speaker 4: handle this, so they handle it all types of ways,

1032
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:37,759
Speaker 4: some appropriate, some not appropriate. And the problem is every

1033
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 4: black person is different. So for a lot of people

1034
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:41,399
Speaker 4: they were like.

1035
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:42,920
Speaker 5: Okay, I'm glad you check. I'm glad you care. For

1036
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 5: some people that was like, the fuck is this I

1037
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:44,399
Speaker 5: at work?

1038
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 1: They getting a lot of mixed information.

1039
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 5: Right, because we're all different.

1040
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 1: Right, so this is kind of weird. Hold on all right.

1041
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:55,719
Speaker 1: The next episode was twenty eight one eighteen.

1042
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 2: It was Black Lives Matter were joined by a comedian

1043
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:00,719
Speaker 2: actor Roy Wood jr.

1044
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:04,719
Speaker 1: Uh not a lot of comments. I always feel weird about.

1045
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 2: These episodes because we get a good guest. Everyone's going

1046
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:08,920
Speaker 2: crazy on Twitter.

1047
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:11,880
Speaker 1: They love it. Everyone's in our Facebook all this is

1048
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 1: the best look. But then when I go to the comments,

1049
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:16,359
Speaker 1: nobody else says anything. I'm always like.

1050
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:20,840
Speaker 4: They enjoyed it, like, and I think for me, I

1051
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:26,759
Speaker 4: don't know, I'm like, as long as it's expressed, you know,

1052
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:30,239
Speaker 4: Like so for me, if you express it online, a

1053
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:32,040
Speaker 4: lot of people go, well, I didn't really disagree or

1054
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 4: there was nothing.

1055
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:35,239
Speaker 5: That I needed to add to the conversation, and so.

1056
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:37,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is not me knocking the audience or anything.

1057
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 2: It's just always weird to me because like, anytime we

1058
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:43,080
Speaker 2: have a really good guest and I feel like all

1059
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:45,919
Speaker 2: these conversations are so great, you know, you would think

1060
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:47,839
Speaker 2: it would be the opposite. Everyone will want to get

1061
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 2: in on the conversation, but it's always this way where

1062
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 2: people are like, I loved it anyway, moving to the

1063
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:56,319
Speaker 2: next episode. It's almost like when we don't have a guest,

1064
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 2: the audience feels ourselves in as the guest and we

1065
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:01,919
Speaker 2: you do have a guess, They're like, well everything was said,

1066
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:04,040
Speaker 2: you know, yeah you had a guess. I don't need

1067
00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 2: to add to the conversation.

1068
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 1: D Ramsey says, five stars listening to you, guys, Am

1069
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:08,399
Speaker 1: Roywood Jr.

1070
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 2: If Drew Brees left his wife from Regina King, I

1071
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:16,000
Speaker 2: would fix his plate and Regina's yeah, well he might

1072
00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:17,759
Speaker 2: be able to get to the cookout. Well, now he

1073
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 2: knows what he needs to do uh. The poe was,

1074
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 2: do you think Kaepernick will ever be an NFL quarterback again?

1075
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:24,319
Speaker 1: Yes? Or never?

1076
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:26,640
Speaker 5: Kerrn never.

1077
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:30,600
Speaker 2: Eighty three percent of the black audience agrees with Karen

1078
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:31,240
Speaker 2: he will.

1079
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:40,160
Speaker 1: Never be a quarterback again. Seventeen percent say yes, and I.

1080
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 2: Currently I'm in the seventeen percent. Guys, I think he

1081
00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:44,800
Speaker 2: can be a quarterback again.

1082
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:47,440
Speaker 5: They're gonna have to prove me wrong.

1083
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:50,000
Speaker 2: I know, I know you Blacks need to protect yourselves

1084
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:50,759
Speaker 2: in case you're wrong.

1085
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 1: I mean, I could easily be wrong. I get it.

1086
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:56,440
Speaker 2: I'm not you know, I'm not flawless, But I don't know.

1087
00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:58,840
Speaker 2: Maybe I'm just feeling a little bit more hopeful lately

1088
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 2: seeing all these whites in the streets trying to fight

1089
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:05,319
Speaker 2: for our rights, and shit, you know it's working on

1090
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:08,120
Speaker 2: me too, y'all. They put the Black Lives Matter on

1091
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:11,720
Speaker 2: the thing, they taking Confederate signs down from the motherfucking Nascar.

1092
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:15,200
Speaker 1: I'm like, why can't he have a job? Maybe I

1093
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 1: was wrong.

1094
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:20,719
Speaker 2: And says I think he will come back for one

1095
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:23,840
Speaker 2: season and lead with a big emotional sind off, like

1096
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 2: a retirement to her or will he know that's the thing?

1097
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:29,879
Speaker 1: Will he know he about to get a send off.

1098
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 2: Oh man, you laugh because it's terrible, Layla says, I

1099
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 2: don't think so. If he's still making a stink about it,

1100
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:42,920
Speaker 2: it'll probably be because of the principality of it. He

1101
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:45,520
Speaker 2: got a settlement, he donated his million like he said

1102
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:47,760
Speaker 2: he was going to do. I'm sure he ain't losing

1103
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:49,759
Speaker 2: no sleep to me. I hope he is feeling like

1104
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 2: the NFL is that girl he's been trying to smash

1105
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:54,879
Speaker 2: for five years, and then when she finally decided to fuck,

1106
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 2: he ain't as excited and just just do it, and

1107
00:51:58,800 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 2: just do it to do it.

1108
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:02,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know.

1109
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:05,040
Speaker 2: I feel like we're now the point where you can't

1110
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:07,720
Speaker 2: be like it's because he kneeling, because all these niggas

1111
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:08,960
Speaker 2: gonna be kneeling when they get back.

1112
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:12,080
Speaker 1: It's gonna be the opposite nigga, you ain't kneeling.

1113
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:17,040
Speaker 2: Fist in Everything episode twenty one nineteen was Black supremacist

1114
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 2: and said, so I heard your comments about my burger

1115
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 2: king choices, like and you have to stop.

1116
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:25,480
Speaker 1: Okay, it's the amount of burger king love. This is

1117
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:29,399
Speaker 1: not a burger king podcast, and don't sponsor us, all right,

1118
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:31,480
Speaker 1: it's enough? Is enough?

1119
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 2: You like Michael wad Burger's fine. So I heard your

1120
00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:37,759
Speaker 2: comments about my Burger King choices last week. Just wanted

1121
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:39,400
Speaker 2: to add that I went there for the price and

1122
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:42,239
Speaker 2: the quick service too. That was a subway that I

1123
00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:44,359
Speaker 2: also could walk to, but the sale just took longer

1124
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 2: to make. I know that because it doesn't make a difference.

1125
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:49,919
Speaker 2: But I had to share this because I only bring

1126
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:52,160
Speaker 2: my lunch from home now. Yes, I still go to

1127
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:54,719
Speaker 2: work these days. No work from home for me. Oh,

1128
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:56,919
Speaker 2: you were just trying to quit yourself. Okay, I'll see

1129
00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:59,239
Speaker 2: what you're saying. Okay, all right, I.

1130
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:03,320
Speaker 1: Hate the poll is have you ever stabbed anyone at work? Yes?

1131
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:03,960
Speaker 2: No?

1132
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:07,279
Speaker 1: Or I'll plead the fifth? K no, all right.

1133
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:11,280
Speaker 2: Eighty four percent of our audience have not stabbed anyone

1134
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:11,719
Speaker 2: at work?

1135
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 1: Eighty four percent.

1136
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:20,680
Speaker 5: What happened to the other percentage? They are here stabbing people?

1137
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:23,160
Speaker 1: Eleven percent plead the fifth.

1138
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 2: Okay, they are not gonna tell they they.

1139
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 1: Will not confirm nor deny it.

1140
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:31,320
Speaker 2: But keep in mind, pleating the fifth isn't a mission

1141
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:33,279
Speaker 2: of guilt essentially in the court of law.

1142
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:34,560
Speaker 1: But okay, I'll see you player.

1143
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:40,360
Speaker 2: And five percent say yes they have stabbed somebody at work.

1144
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:42,400
Speaker 5: Oh, but what's bags it is?

1145
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:45,160
Speaker 2: Cheyenne says yes, but only in a playful way. That

1146
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:49,640
Speaker 2: doesn't count. Schyne, I'm talking real stabs. Okay, so that's

1147
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:50,879
Speaker 2: one less vote for yes.

1148
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:53,920
Speaker 1: Ha ha. Kim says, I never stabbed anyone, but in

1149
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:54,319
Speaker 1: my head.

1150
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:57,399
Speaker 2: I shot a few on many occasions, either my head

1151
00:53:57,480 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 2: or on the spot where a hardship reside.

1152
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:01,879
Speaker 1: But I obviously does it well.

1153
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:06,160
Speaker 2: Kim, you might want to holler at some therapists or something.

1154
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:10,719
Speaker 2: Is this how workplace shooting start? I don't hopefully you

1155
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:12,440
Speaker 2: are looking for a different job. I don't want you

1156
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:15,600
Speaker 2: to have to kill nobody. And we're welcome home that okay, Kim,

1157
00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:17,120
Speaker 2: we care about you over here at the black guy

1158
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:18,440
Speaker 2: teos we don't want to see a.

1159
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:23,759
Speaker 1: Blue Cat says yes with my tongue.

1160
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:26,399
Speaker 2: First of all, if you sold her yes and this pole,

1161
00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:28,080
Speaker 2: you can go straight to hell, blue Cat.

1162
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:30,040
Speaker 1: This is science, you know.

1163
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:33,520
Speaker 2: I'm doing a scientific study about people being stabbed with

1164
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:36,319
Speaker 2: sharp objects like knives and scissors and swords and shit,

1165
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:39,920
Speaker 2: and you and your tongue is not one of those things.

1166
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:41,040
Speaker 1: Kim.

1167
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:44,880
Speaker 2: Doc says, stab somebody someone else know nearly stab myself

1168
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:48,400
Speaker 2: on multiple occasions, more times than I can count. Your

1169
00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:51,480
Speaker 2: heart starts beating out the chest when any accident of

1170
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:54,400
Speaker 2: safety issue in the chemistry lab. Even if you're careful,

1171
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:57,040
Speaker 2: you got injured. You can get injured.

1172
00:54:57,400 --> 00:55:01,839
Speaker 1: Wait? What? What? Who the stabbing people at a chemistry lab?

1173
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:03,279
Speaker 7: Why?

1174
00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 2: I thought you was gonna be like I work in

1175
00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:09,399
Speaker 2: the fucking like psychiatric ward or some shit, and people

1176
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:10,440
Speaker 2: get ahold of things.

1177
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:13,080
Speaker 5: I'm pretty sure they did it with some I guess

1178
00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:13,879
Speaker 5: some sharp shit.

1179
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:17,279
Speaker 1: Nearly stabbed, Oh, nearly stabbed myself.

1180
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:20,719
Speaker 2: Oh, I know what you mean. Not nearly I was

1181
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:23,920
Speaker 2: nearly stabbed myself. She means, I like maybe with a

1182
00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:26,839
Speaker 2: with a needle or something. I've nearly stabbed myself with

1183
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:29,040
Speaker 2: some fucking chemicals or some shit and turned to the

1184
00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:33,040
Speaker 2: whole use spider man. Okay, all right, I'll feel you

1185
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:36,919
Speaker 2: on that. I'm bad man. Get a little defensive about

1186
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:39,960
Speaker 2: my polls. I'm sorry, y'all. Why is Terry Crew so toxic?

1187
00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:42,399
Speaker 2: Why they Why did black women ever? What did black

1188
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:45,320
Speaker 2: women ever do to him? I hope Gavy has NBC

1189
00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:48,600
Speaker 2: unload the Brinks truck fast trash.

1190
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:51,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know what happened with Terry Man, I

1191
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:52,279
Speaker 1: don't know.

1192
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:59,080
Speaker 2: I mean, honestly, man, most black men period are not

1193
00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:03,520
Speaker 2: prepared to be in that Black Twitter spirit of feminism

1194
00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:06,880
Speaker 2: that was supporting him. And I would feel like almost

1195
00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:12,040
Speaker 2: any black dude would eventually be very disappointing to the

1196
00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:15,080
Speaker 2: black women that support him, because I mean, it's You're

1197
00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:16,840
Speaker 2: still a black dude. You still have a lot of

1198
00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:22,000
Speaker 2: privilege within that space, and the support is very rarely

1199
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:26,560
Speaker 2: reciprocal and in many cases it can't truly ever be reciprocated,

1200
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:30,799
Speaker 2: uh in a one way. So a lot of these

1201
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:32,840
Speaker 2: dudes would have let y'all down, even if they didn't

1202
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:35,239
Speaker 2: intend to. And I don't think he intended to let

1203
00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:38,400
Speaker 2: black women down, but that's what happened. That being said,

1204
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:42,440
Speaker 2: there's just also the fact that the dude is like

1205
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:46,239
Speaker 2: he he really was not supposed to be put on

1206
00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:50,480
Speaker 2: that pedestal. In a weird way, It's like him and

1207
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:51,640
Speaker 2: the black.

1208
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 1: Women on Twitter that were really supportive of him.

1209
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:56,040
Speaker 2: And a lot of the white women too, by the way,

1210
00:56:56,200 --> 00:56:59,399
Speaker 2: that were really supportive of him, kind of needed each

1211
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:02,400
Speaker 2: other in a sense in a weird way. It's like

1212
00:57:02,520 --> 00:57:05,040
Speaker 2: they needed a man to be like if it can

1213
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 2: happen to him. Will y'all stop saying it's our fault

1214
00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:10,719
Speaker 2: for what we wear and where we go and shit,

1215
00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:13,040
Speaker 2: they did it to this dude in public at a party,

1216
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 2: and he really couldn't do shit without losing his whole career.

1217
00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:17,880
Speaker 1: Great example.

1218
00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:20,680
Speaker 2: And of course, you know he was glombd onto it

1219
00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:23,880
Speaker 2: because he was not being supported by black men or

1220
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:27,120
Speaker 2: and definitely not his white male friends, because many of

1221
00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:29,120
Speaker 2: them stopped fucking with him over this because the person

1222
00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:32,600
Speaker 2: he was suing was a powerful agent and shit, so

1223
00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:35,840
Speaker 2: he needed someone to have his back and a lot

1224
00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:40,000
Speaker 2: of time in a way, black women specifically filled that void,

1225
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:43,640
Speaker 2: and then it made it okay for his white woman

1226
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:45,920
Speaker 2: co workers and stuff like that to start.

1227
00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:46,960
Speaker 1: Filling that void too.

1228
00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:52,080
Speaker 2: But that being said, had he done any real examination

1229
00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:54,880
Speaker 2: and work of himself? Has he you know, does he

1230
00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:57,800
Speaker 2: even know much about the belief system of people that

1231
00:57:57,840 --> 00:58:01,280
Speaker 2: support him, Like I know he's a very Christian man,

1232
00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:05,400
Speaker 2: Like has he examined his Christian beliefs and how that

1233
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:07,600
Speaker 2: shit plays with the people that support him? You know

1234
00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:09,720
Speaker 2: when he start you know, I know he's very into

1235
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:14,960
Speaker 2: male and female. Make the man, make the baby, and

1236
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:17,800
Speaker 2: you need the man and black fathers and black men

1237
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:21,200
Speaker 2: and stuff, and uh.

1238
00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:24,080
Speaker 1: That doesn't play well with those people, you know.

1239
00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:28,400
Speaker 2: And like, I feel empathy for a lot of people,

1240
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:31,600
Speaker 2: but I think a lot of these people get in

1241
00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:34,760
Speaker 2: over their heads hopping in this internet shit without reading anything,

1242
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:38,240
Speaker 2: without studying anybody. They just fucking just welcome the support,

1243
00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:42,000
Speaker 2: and like, you don't actually go here like you might

1244
00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:44,760
Speaker 2: want to. You might want to like read some of

1245
00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:46,960
Speaker 2: these links they saying and you rather than just retweet

1246
00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:49,600
Speaker 2: and be like thanks sister, you know. And I think

1247
00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:51,760
Speaker 2: that's what fucked everything up for him. It went to

1248
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:53,920
Speaker 2: his head and then this is who he really is,

1249
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:57,440
Speaker 2: you know, because see, I'm sure in the circles he

1250
00:58:57,520 --> 00:59:00,680
Speaker 2: runs in that black supremacist shit is deep deepest his

1251
00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:04,080
Speaker 2: multi vitamins where the black the man gives vitamins and

1252
00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:05,120
Speaker 2: the woman gets vitamins.

1253
00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:08,160
Speaker 1: It's deepest hell in them circles. But Twitter ain't them circles.

1254
00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:11,880
Speaker 2: That shit ain't the bad all new ms Bond says,

1255
00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:14,760
Speaker 2: in my head, many a motherfucker has bit the dust

1256
00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:17,240
Speaker 2: in one form of another. My shit list stays upgraded

1257
00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:22,920
Speaker 2: every mom Mmmm, Well, don't stab nobody at work, Okay,

1258
00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:24,680
Speaker 2: we just want the best for y'all.

1259
00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:26,320
Speaker 1: I don't want none of y'all have to go to prison,

1260
00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:33,440
Speaker 1: right but yeah, uh, and I don't even know that

1261
00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:35,680
Speaker 1: it's a black woman that hurt Terry Crews. That's the

1262
00:59:35,720 --> 00:59:36,080
Speaker 1: other thing.

1263
00:59:36,120 --> 00:59:38,680
Speaker 2: I think he just might not be a supportive dude

1264
00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:40,120
Speaker 2: in the way that people thought he would be.

1265
00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:42,960
Speaker 1: Right, you know, a lot of black men take advantage

1266
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:44,360
Speaker 1: of that, take it for granted.

1267
00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:46,040
Speaker 2: Like black women gonna support me no matter what I do,

1268
00:59:46,120 --> 00:59:48,680
Speaker 2: so anyway, you know, and then they just go out

1269
00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:51,520
Speaker 2: and live their lives without black women in mind, you know.

1270
00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:54,200
Speaker 2: And meanwhile, we see what happens the other way, like

1271
00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:58,880
Speaker 2: with black women, if they start expressing shit that doesn't

1272
00:59:58,920 --> 01:00:01,360
Speaker 2: sound supportive of black they get accused of being like

1273
01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:05,200
Speaker 2: fucking over the whole black community, you know. So it's

1274
01:00:05,240 --> 01:00:06,840
Speaker 2: just a lot of privilege at play.

1275
01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:09,160
Speaker 1: And shit was moving way too fast for a dude

1276
01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:09,560
Speaker 1: like that.

1277
01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:14,280
Speaker 2: Episode twenty one was refund the police who got some comments.

1278
01:00:14,600 --> 01:00:16,640
Speaker 2: B Star says, that has to be audio or black

1279
01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:18,840
Speaker 2: people grilling that you can play before the cookout segment.

1280
01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:19,400
Speaker 1: Love the show.

1281
01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:23,160
Speaker 2: I'm sure there is somewhere, but you know, just like

1282
01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:26,880
Speaker 2: I just like playing the music, Sarah says, I found

1283
01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:32,600
Speaker 2: this episode really impactful, especially your conversation about forgiveness. The momentum,

1284
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:35,480
Speaker 2: this is the momentum to release non Oh wait, helld

1285
01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:38,720
Speaker 2: on the momentum to release nonviolent drug offenders.

1286
01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:40,360
Speaker 1: But the majority of prisons are charged with.

1287
01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:43,760
Speaker 2: Violent Yes, the momentum, There is momentum to release non

1288
01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:45,880
Speaker 2: violent drug offenders. They talk about this in the book

1289
01:00:45,880 --> 01:00:48,320
Speaker 2: as well and lock it Up our own, But the

1290
01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:51,880
Speaker 2: majority of prisoners are charged with a violent crime, sometimes

1291
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:54,520
Speaker 2: through the wonkiness of the definition of violence. Right, So,

1292
01:00:54,600 --> 01:00:56,720
Speaker 2: like you can commit a crime that's actually non violent,

1293
01:00:56,800 --> 01:00:58,640
Speaker 2: but if you're feeling with a gun on you, that

1294
01:00:58,720 --> 01:01:02,200
Speaker 2: shit counts as violent. You know, stuff like that. If

1295
01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:04,480
Speaker 2: you point a pistol at somebody, that counts as violence.

1296
01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:08,440
Speaker 2: That's a salt. So so like you know some of

1297
01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:10,360
Speaker 2: this stuff that you go, this is a non violent

1298
01:01:10,840 --> 01:01:13,760
Speaker 2: Technically they are a nonviolent offender. They didn't shoot anybody,

1299
01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:17,240
Speaker 2: they didn't whatever, But the law says that's a violent offense.

1300
01:01:17,320 --> 01:01:19,600
Speaker 2: So you get that extra period of crime.

1301
01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:22,040
Speaker 1: Yes, and when the leniency.

1302
01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:25,120
Speaker 2: Comes through the drug through the criminal justice system, they

1303
01:01:25,160 --> 01:01:28,160
Speaker 2: skip over you even though you've never actually harmed anyone

1304
01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:33,040
Speaker 2: with any physical violence. If we want real prison reform

1305
01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:36,000
Speaker 2: that would mean shorter sentences for violent offenders.

1306
01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:37,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, and see this is the thing.

1307
01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:41,960
Speaker 2: They skip past this stuff because no one wants to

1308
01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:45,200
Speaker 2: talk about the ekiness of we're gonna have a more

1309
01:01:45,320 --> 01:01:49,360
Speaker 2: lenient thing. That might mean that a man who is

1310
01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:53,200
Speaker 2: stalking someone is back on the streets even faster than

1311
01:01:53,200 --> 01:01:56,600
Speaker 2: they are now. You know, it might you know, there

1312
01:01:56,680 --> 01:01:59,160
Speaker 2: might be people who don't buy into this system the

1313
01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:02,280
Speaker 2: first second, third for a fifth teenth time, just the

1314
01:02:02,280 --> 01:02:04,520
Speaker 2: same way it happens now. Like, people aren't gonna just

1315
01:02:04,600 --> 01:02:08,200
Speaker 2: change overnight. They're talking about a long term commitment. And

1316
01:02:08,560 --> 01:02:11,320
Speaker 2: I think because they don't want to say these ichy

1317
01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:15,840
Speaker 2: parts in a lot of cases, that they then turn

1318
01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:19,280
Speaker 2: people off because people want answers. And I think you're

1319
01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:22,080
Speaker 2: also gonna lose momentum because even if you can implement

1320
01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:25,240
Speaker 2: these things and you have people out here thinking they're

1321
01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:28,120
Speaker 2: gonna get quick solutions and the system's gonna be fixed,

1322
01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:31,360
Speaker 2: when they run into problems in the new systems, they're

1323
01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:33,680
Speaker 2: just gonna be like, well, I want the old system back.

1324
01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:36,800
Speaker 2: Fuck this shit, because I know it worked right well,

1325
01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:38,800
Speaker 2: not even that it worked, it didn't really work.

1326
01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:39,840
Speaker 1: It's broken.

1327
01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:40,920
Speaker 5: I know how it works.

1328
01:02:40,960 --> 01:02:43,760
Speaker 2: They but they understood how and why, and they will

1329
01:02:43,840 --> 01:02:47,120
Speaker 2: run back for the terrible comfort of something horrible, then

1330
01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:51,040
Speaker 2: for the ichy uncertainness of something new, especially something new

1331
01:02:51,120 --> 01:02:53,640
Speaker 2: that you're not really teaching them shit about. Like when

1332
01:02:53,680 --> 01:02:55,680
Speaker 2: they ask a question, you just shamed them for asking

1333
01:02:55,680 --> 01:02:59,480
Speaker 2: a question. When they go, well, what about this specific

1334
01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:01,760
Speaker 2: scenario and all, the only thing you can say is

1335
01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:02,960
Speaker 2: I'm concerned about that too.

1336
01:03:03,240 --> 01:03:04,960
Speaker 1: That's not good enough for a lot of people.

1337
01:03:05,040 --> 01:03:06,680
Speaker 5: And I don't give a fuck. You didn't answer my.

1338
01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:09,920
Speaker 1: Question right, And you know, they're not stupid. People aren't stupid.

1339
01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:12,440
Speaker 2: They're gonna pick up on this, So I think you

1340
01:03:12,520 --> 01:03:14,640
Speaker 2: might have to tell them the tough answer of we

1341
01:03:14,720 --> 01:03:18,960
Speaker 2: don't know, or you know what this person might really

1342
01:03:18,960 --> 01:03:20,760
Speaker 2: be on the streets and be able to kill people.

1343
01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:24,320
Speaker 2: They you know, in our new world, we're gonna hope

1344
01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:26,560
Speaker 2: that investing in schools and not that lot changes to

1345
01:03:26,600 --> 01:03:29,400
Speaker 2: a lot of people and reformat it. But yeah, we

1346
01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:32,080
Speaker 2: don't really necessarily have a plan for the killers and

1347
01:03:32,120 --> 01:03:32,600
Speaker 2: the rapists.

1348
01:03:32,600 --> 01:03:35,040
Speaker 1: Maybe we'll figure it out as we go, Maybe we'll

1349
01:03:35,040 --> 01:03:36,000
Speaker 1: come up with something new.

1350
01:03:36,080 --> 01:03:38,480
Speaker 4: We don't know, right, and they get out on the

1351
01:03:38,520 --> 01:03:40,280
Speaker 4: streets a lot of times quick anyway.

1352
01:03:40,480 --> 01:03:43,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's weird because they're willing to sacrifice their

1353
01:03:43,720 --> 01:03:48,800
Speaker 2: argument on this purity moral stance over the really a

1354
01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:53,920
Speaker 2: select few individuals who are the like I refuse to

1355
01:03:53,960 --> 01:03:57,680
Speaker 2: participate in society without abusing other people, Like they were

1356
01:03:57,680 --> 01:04:00,400
Speaker 2: gonna lose their entire fucking footing of the art argument

1357
01:04:00,600 --> 01:04:03,680
Speaker 2: just because of them. It's stupid to me just sacrifice

1358
01:04:03,720 --> 01:04:06,320
Speaker 2: them then, Like that's the Sometimes you have to be like, look,

1359
01:04:06,520 --> 01:04:08,120
Speaker 2: that kind of nigga has to go to jail. I

1360
01:04:08,120 --> 01:04:11,360
Speaker 2: don't have a better solution than that, And in our

1361
01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:13,840
Speaker 2: world jail won't look like the jail it is now,

1362
01:04:13,920 --> 01:04:18,400
Speaker 2: So hopefully that version of jail might help them better

1363
01:04:18,440 --> 01:04:20,280
Speaker 2: than the jails we have now.

1364
01:04:20,480 --> 01:04:23,919
Speaker 5: Something like that would be much understandable. I will roll

1365
01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:26,160
Speaker 5: with you if you give me that answer, But does

1366
01:04:26,280 --> 01:04:29,120
Speaker 5: him in and holland I'm concerned about rape?

1367
01:04:29,120 --> 01:04:29,240
Speaker 4: Two?

1368
01:04:29,320 --> 01:04:31,080
Speaker 5: Okay, bitch, answer the question.

1369
01:04:31,080 --> 01:04:33,800
Speaker 2: But then you lose the kind of the higher moral

1370
01:04:33,840 --> 01:04:36,160
Speaker 2: ground of In my world, there is no jail, and

1371
01:04:36,200 --> 01:04:38,880
Speaker 2: everyone just gets along and we all drink gummy bear

1372
01:04:38,960 --> 01:04:42,040
Speaker 2: juice and we skip. Like, you lose that argument. But

1373
01:04:42,160 --> 01:04:43,920
Speaker 2: I think that's also because a lot of these arguments

1374
01:04:43,960 --> 01:04:47,200
Speaker 2: are happening online, and they're happening in theoretical spaces, and

1375
01:04:47,720 --> 01:04:49,840
Speaker 2: you know, you don't need to have a solution in theory.

1376
01:04:49,880 --> 01:04:51,520
Speaker 2: You can just kind of be like whatever it is,

1377
01:04:51,640 --> 01:04:56,920
Speaker 2: imagine anything and then and it's like, I'm just trying

1378
01:04:56,920 --> 01:05:00,479
Speaker 2: to help right, that answer right there is not gonna

1379
01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:01,680
Speaker 2: get people on board.

1380
01:05:01,640 --> 01:05:04,480
Speaker 5: No, because I live in reality. I'm not trying to imagine.

1381
01:05:04,600 --> 01:05:08,080
Speaker 2: I want answers, you know, Like it's not you know,

1382
01:05:08,760 --> 01:05:11,120
Speaker 2: the ideas that the system will work better. I think

1383
01:05:11,200 --> 01:05:14,400
Speaker 2: everyone can agree this, we can find a better system.

1384
01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:17,000
Speaker 1: I don't think you're gonna find everybody that agrees with

1385
01:05:18,840 --> 01:05:22,800
Speaker 1: you know that the dissolution dissolution will work for everyone.

1386
01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:25,640
Speaker 4: Right, because no matter what you put in place, it

1387
01:05:25,680 --> 01:05:26,760
Speaker 4: does not work for everyone.

1388
01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:29,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, and at the core of this is a society

1389
01:05:29,560 --> 01:05:31,400
Speaker 2: that has to be willing to forgive, which is something

1390
01:05:31,440 --> 01:05:33,880
Speaker 2: that everyone apparently it thinks it's whack.

1391
01:05:34,120 --> 01:05:36,560
Speaker 1: Right now, you know, like.

1392
01:05:36,680 --> 01:05:41,760
Speaker 2: You know what, I'm not saying this to be trolling.

1393
01:05:41,800 --> 01:05:43,880
Speaker 2: I'm not saying this to be inflammatory, but I fucking

1394
01:05:43,920 --> 01:05:48,280
Speaker 2: mean it. You want to know what prison reform, sentencing

1395
01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:49,560
Speaker 2: reform or.

1396
01:05:50,160 --> 01:05:52,840
Speaker 1: Abolition of prison, abolition.

1397
01:05:52,600 --> 01:05:56,480
Speaker 2: Of this punitive justice system that's about punishing people. You

1398
01:05:56,520 --> 01:06:00,000
Speaker 2: want to know what it looks like. It looks like

1399
01:06:00,120 --> 01:06:03,560
Speaker 2: hugging Amberg Geiger in court.

1400
01:06:03,960 --> 01:06:07,400
Speaker 5: Mm hmm, and people lost their motherfucking mind.

1401
01:06:07,560 --> 01:06:10,240
Speaker 1: It looks like that. That's what it looks like.

1402
01:06:10,440 --> 01:06:12,880
Speaker 2: It looks like a system that sees people as human

1403
01:06:13,520 --> 01:06:16,280
Speaker 2: enough to say, you did a thing that was terrible,

1404
01:06:16,400 --> 01:06:20,280
Speaker 2: but we don't believe that makes you terrible or terrible

1405
01:06:20,320 --> 01:06:25,160
Speaker 2: forever rehabilitation. And right now, as a black person, I

1406
01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:27,760
Speaker 2: feel jealous of the fact that she gets to be

1407
01:06:27,840 --> 01:06:30,640
Speaker 2: seen as human and in a better system, everyone gets

1408
01:06:30,680 --> 01:06:31,520
Speaker 2: to be seen as human.

1409
01:06:31,560 --> 01:06:34,400
Speaker 1: But it doesn't. The thing is, it would not stop

1410
01:06:34,480 --> 01:06:35,919
Speaker 1: for just us.

1411
01:06:35,960 --> 01:06:38,760
Speaker 4: And that's that's where people don't understand. It would go

1412
01:06:38,840 --> 01:06:41,840
Speaker 4: against racist people. To y'all, I hope y'all realize that

1413
01:06:41,880 --> 01:06:42,240
Speaker 4: this is.

1414
01:06:42,200 --> 01:06:43,840
Speaker 1: Not a right.

1415
01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:47,400
Speaker 2: Like it's not punitive for the cops and then but

1416
01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:50,560
Speaker 2: not punitive for the people that sell drugs. It's gonna

1417
01:06:50,600 --> 01:06:53,280
Speaker 2: be not punitive for everyone in the system. It's gonna

1418
01:06:53,280 --> 01:06:57,200
Speaker 2: be not punitive for Dylan Ruth. It's gonna be not punitive.

1419
01:06:57,320 --> 01:07:02,560
Speaker 2: So is are we a to let that go? Will

1420
01:07:02,640 --> 01:07:06,440
Speaker 2: we be able to say yes? They sentenced Amber Geiger,

1421
01:07:06,480 --> 01:07:10,480
Speaker 2: but only the two years or they or she's just

1422
01:07:10,560 --> 01:07:14,120
Speaker 2: out in the community doing community service, because the truth

1423
01:07:14,160 --> 01:07:17,320
Speaker 2: of the matter is she is very unlikely to commit

1424
01:07:17,360 --> 01:07:20,720
Speaker 2: a crime like that. Again, right, are we willing to say,

1425
01:07:20,800 --> 01:07:24,120
Speaker 2: because hey, look in this system, my cousin that rob

1426
01:07:24,200 --> 01:07:27,520
Speaker 2: the bank comes home a lot faster and Amber Gaga

1427
01:07:27,560 --> 01:07:30,520
Speaker 2: comes home a lot faster. Right, I don't know that

1428
01:07:30,520 --> 01:07:33,280
Speaker 2: that's I don't know that that's real. I think people,

1429
01:07:33,880 --> 01:07:35,680
Speaker 2: what we feel now is that the system is on

1430
01:07:35,720 --> 01:07:38,520
Speaker 2: the next of black people, so we want we want

1431
01:07:38,560 --> 01:07:40,960
Speaker 2: it off the next. But I don't know if we

1432
01:07:41,000 --> 01:07:42,880
Speaker 2: feel like we want it off the next to everybody.

1433
01:07:42,880 --> 01:07:45,880
Speaker 2: And I would like to see that completely fleshed out.

1434
01:07:45,960 --> 01:07:50,880
Speaker 2: Let's let's find out, you know. But yeah, I feel

1435
01:07:50,920 --> 01:07:53,280
Speaker 2: I've come to peace with that. Yeah, we want real

1436
01:07:53,320 --> 01:07:56,000
Speaker 2: prison for m that will mean shorter sentences for violent offenders.

1437
01:07:56,160 --> 01:07:57,440
Speaker 2: I feel I have to come to peace with that,

1438
01:07:57,520 --> 01:07:59,680
Speaker 2: especially when you're the person, when the person is under

1439
01:07:59,680 --> 01:08:01,960
Speaker 2: twenty five, though I do still bristol at the thought

1440
01:08:01,960 --> 01:08:03,320
Speaker 2: of forgiving sexual offenders.

1441
01:08:03,600 --> 01:08:05,880
Speaker 1: Thank you very much for your well thought out conversation.

1442
01:08:06,040 --> 01:08:11,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I've read books about that too. Conflict does

1443
01:08:11,080 --> 01:08:14,880
Speaker 2: not abuse, locking up our on the course, But you're

1444
01:08:14,920 --> 01:08:16,760
Speaker 2: talking about people needing to.

1445
01:08:18,280 --> 01:08:19,400
Speaker 1: We need to as.

1446
01:08:19,200 --> 01:08:21,960
Speaker 2: A society see that a person that is a pedophile

1447
01:08:22,320 --> 01:08:25,400
Speaker 2: or a serial sexual offender is still a human being

1448
01:08:25,520 --> 01:08:29,600
Speaker 2: that is sick but needs to doesn't need to be

1449
01:08:29,680 --> 01:08:33,600
Speaker 2: in prison and needs to be rehabilitated and should be

1450
01:08:33,680 --> 01:08:37,080
Speaker 2: on the same streets that we are and not necessarily

1451
01:08:37,120 --> 01:08:41,160
Speaker 2: be restricted too punitively. I don't know that the world's

1452
01:08:41,160 --> 01:08:43,679
Speaker 2: that radical. I don't know that people are that radical.

1453
01:08:43,720 --> 01:08:45,679
Speaker 2: I don't know that they hate the police that much.

1454
01:08:46,160 --> 01:08:48,040
Speaker 2: I don't know that they hate prison that much. Is

1455
01:08:48,080 --> 01:08:50,400
Speaker 2: fucked up as prison and police are correct. So the

1456
01:08:50,479 --> 01:08:52,639
Speaker 2: question becomes, how do you get them on your side?

1457
01:08:52,720 --> 01:08:55,719
Speaker 2: And I'm like, it's not gonna come from just laughing

1458
01:08:55,760 --> 01:08:57,280
Speaker 2: at them and saying, why would.

1459
01:08:57,040 --> 01:08:58,719
Speaker 1: You even ask that question? Stupid?

1460
01:08:58,960 --> 01:09:01,240
Speaker 2: You think I'm not concerned about pedophiles and it just

1461
01:09:01,280 --> 01:09:02,719
Speaker 2: blah blah blah blah blah blah.

1462
01:09:02,600 --> 01:09:05,760
Speaker 1: Words salad. You ain't about to win nobody over with that.

1463
01:09:06,600 --> 01:09:09,679
Speaker 4: Particularly, people are listening to your words because words mean things.

1464
01:09:09,720 --> 01:09:12,800
Speaker 4: And I've actually been very open and I've actually been

1465
01:09:12,920 --> 01:09:16,719
Speaker 4: listening to all these conversations with all these new words

1466
01:09:16,720 --> 01:09:19,400
Speaker 4: and terminology, and I've been trying to figure out and

1467
01:09:19,520 --> 01:09:23,120
Speaker 4: every time we get down to the nitty gritty of it,

1468
01:09:23,400 --> 01:09:26,479
Speaker 4: I get a YadA YadA, YadA YadA, and I get

1469
01:09:26,520 --> 01:09:28,640
Speaker 4: infuriated because I was like, well, you know, you're not

1470
01:09:28,680 --> 01:09:30,759
Speaker 4: answering any of the questions that are relevant.

1471
01:09:31,200 --> 01:09:31,400
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1472
01:09:31,520 --> 01:09:35,519
Speaker 2: Unfortunately, I think what we'll find out in the next

1473
01:09:37,400 --> 01:09:40,040
Speaker 2: however long that this conversation is going, I think, well,

1474
01:09:40,760 --> 01:09:43,000
Speaker 2: I'm you know, I'm not afraid of it personally, but

1475
01:09:43,040 --> 01:09:46,200
Speaker 2: I understand people's fear of it. But I think the

1476
01:09:46,280 --> 01:09:49,800
Speaker 2: truth is we're gonna find out that what a lot

1477
01:09:49,800 --> 01:09:52,479
Speaker 2: of black people actually want from the criminal justice system

1478
01:09:52,680 --> 01:09:53,880
Speaker 2: is to treat us.

1479
01:09:53,760 --> 01:09:56,719
Speaker 1: The way they treat white people. Correct. And I don't

1480
01:09:56,760 --> 01:09:57,439
Speaker 1: mean that.

1481
01:09:57,400 --> 01:09:59,920
Speaker 2: In the pejorative like because we just want white supremacy

1482
01:09:59,920 --> 01:10:02,280
Speaker 2: for ourselves. I don't mean it like that. I just

1483
01:10:02,320 --> 01:10:04,679
Speaker 2: mean that they really are, like, I want.

1484
01:10:04,479 --> 01:10:06,759
Speaker 1: You to do the job that you do for white people.

1485
01:10:06,880 --> 01:10:07,280
Speaker 5: That's it.

1486
01:10:07,320 --> 01:10:12,920
Speaker 2: They asked Alexandria Cassio Cortez what defund the police looks

1487
01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:15,439
Speaker 2: like on our Instagram and she said it looks like

1488
01:10:15,439 --> 01:10:17,920
Speaker 2: a suburb And people go, what.

1489
01:10:17,880 --> 01:10:18,439
Speaker 1: Does that mean?

1490
01:10:18,560 --> 01:10:22,799
Speaker 2: And she's like, less police presence. They're there to protect

1491
01:10:22,800 --> 01:10:26,080
Speaker 2: and serve. They're doing their jobs in the community. They're

1492
01:10:26,120 --> 01:10:29,599
Speaker 2: not there to lock people up, pulling over people every

1493
01:10:29,640 --> 01:10:33,040
Speaker 2: five seconds. Like it just looks like what We already

1494
01:10:33,120 --> 01:10:34,400
Speaker 2: have a lot of places.

1495
01:10:34,640 --> 01:10:36,960
Speaker 1: And you don't need a fucking tank to do that.

1496
01:10:37,040 --> 01:10:38,920
Speaker 1: You don't need a lot of money to do that.

1497
01:10:39,439 --> 01:10:43,000
Speaker 2: You don't need forty five officers showing up to do that.

1498
01:10:43,439 --> 01:10:45,920
Speaker 2: You know, there's not no no, there's no no knocking

1499
01:10:46,000 --> 01:10:47,840
Speaker 2: warrants in fucking Valentine.

1500
01:10:47,960 --> 01:10:49,880
Speaker 1: I know y'all aren't from here, so that makes no reference.

1501
01:10:49,960 --> 01:10:53,479
Speaker 2: But filling your own part of your city that the

1502
01:10:54,080 --> 01:10:57,200
Speaker 2: people with some money and white people live, it's not

1503
01:10:57,320 --> 01:10:59,400
Speaker 2: They dont no knock warrant Valentine.

1504
01:10:59,439 --> 01:11:00,200
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.

1505
01:11:00,520 --> 01:11:02,920
Speaker 2: When they do, they don't kill anybody. They don't shoot

1506
01:11:02,960 --> 01:11:09,719
Speaker 2: up the place. So that's something that people could understand. Yes,

1507
01:11:10,000 --> 01:11:12,639
Speaker 2: that's something they could get behind. You know, that's why

1508
01:11:12,840 --> 01:11:14,920
Speaker 2: half this country does it. More than half this country

1509
01:11:15,080 --> 01:11:17,040
Speaker 2: doesn't think police are quote unquote bad.

1510
01:11:17,120 --> 01:11:20,320
Speaker 1: It's because they aren't bad to everybody. You know.

1511
01:11:20,479 --> 01:11:23,160
Speaker 2: It's like a man that treats you fine, but then

1512
01:11:23,200 --> 01:11:23,840
Speaker 2: you find out.

1513
01:11:23,760 --> 01:11:25,160
Speaker 1: He's fucked up towards other people.

1514
01:11:25,240 --> 01:11:28,320
Speaker 2: Right, that's what white people are doing right now, where

1515
01:11:28,320 --> 01:11:33,080
Speaker 2: they're like, you know Randy, you know he used.

1516
01:11:32,920 --> 01:11:33,400
Speaker 1: To be a pimp.

1517
01:11:33,479 --> 01:11:36,479
Speaker 2: It's like, what Randy, No, We've been dating for three years.

1518
01:11:36,479 --> 01:11:40,120
Speaker 2: It's like, here's his Facebook. Does nigga be pimping? I

1519
01:11:40,160 --> 01:11:42,920
Speaker 2: don't know what to tell you. He's slapping women. Here's him,

1520
01:11:43,120 --> 01:11:45,559
Speaker 2: you know, in a car, in a Cadillac with some

1521
01:11:46,520 --> 01:11:49,080
Speaker 2: high heel fish platform shoes.

1522
01:11:49,360 --> 01:11:50,400
Speaker 1: This nigga is a pimp.

1523
01:11:50,400 --> 01:11:52,280
Speaker 2: And it's hard for white people that even grasp because

1524
01:11:52,280 --> 01:11:54,840
Speaker 2: they're like, but they don't pimp me.

1525
01:11:56,040 --> 01:11:57,639
Speaker 1: That's the discussion right now.

1526
01:11:57,680 --> 01:12:00,200
Speaker 2: And so I think what people are saying is is

1527
01:12:00,280 --> 01:12:03,400
Speaker 2: do away with the pimp, right like a way kill

1528
01:12:03,479 --> 01:12:04,759
Speaker 2: Randy is what everybody's saying.

1529
01:12:05,120 --> 01:12:07,760
Speaker 1: And I think what's gonna happen is we're never gonna

1530
01:12:07,840 --> 01:12:09,080
Speaker 1: kill Randy. That's my belief.

1531
01:12:09,120 --> 01:12:11,679
Speaker 2: I think America will always hold onto policing and all

1532
01:12:11,680 --> 01:12:15,160
Speaker 2: this shit prison. But I do think what they're hoping

1533
01:12:15,200 --> 01:12:17,559
Speaker 2: for is like, well, can you get Randy to treat

1534
01:12:17,600 --> 01:12:19,080
Speaker 2: everybody the way he treats you?

1535
01:12:19,800 --> 01:12:24,680
Speaker 5: And for me personally, I am fine with that.

1536
01:12:25,600 --> 01:12:29,160
Speaker 4: I understand that there's a purpose for it.

1537
01:12:29,200 --> 01:12:30,240
Speaker 5: For police officers.

1538
01:12:30,760 --> 01:12:33,479
Speaker 4: In my mind, all I ask is that I'm able

1539
01:12:33,520 --> 01:12:37,000
Speaker 4: to ride around without fitting a description. All I ask

1540
01:12:37,240 --> 01:12:39,919
Speaker 4: is that if I get pulled over for a violation,

1541
01:12:40,120 --> 01:12:42,720
Speaker 4: I blink my eyes and it's forty five people around me.

1542
01:12:43,000 --> 01:12:43,800
Speaker 5: That's all I ask.

1543
01:12:45,240 --> 01:12:48,160
Speaker 4: And the thing is for most black people, that's all

1544
01:12:48,200 --> 01:12:51,200
Speaker 4: they ask. Most black people don't want this radical.

1545
01:12:52,200 --> 01:12:52,639
Speaker 5: Change.

1546
01:12:52,800 --> 01:12:54,920
Speaker 4: You do have people to do, but most people don't

1547
01:12:54,960 --> 01:12:57,840
Speaker 4: want this radical change because if you have this radical change,

1548
01:12:58,080 --> 01:12:59,800
Speaker 4: then you have questions is what do you do with

1549
01:12:59,800 --> 01:13:02,160
Speaker 4: that the system and what do you do when people

1550
01:13:02,240 --> 01:13:03,040
Speaker 4: decide fuck it?

1551
01:13:03,120 --> 01:13:04,920
Speaker 5: Because there's no system in place.

1552
01:13:05,000 --> 01:13:07,519
Speaker 2: The problem becomes and this is you know, this is

1553
01:13:07,520 --> 01:13:11,280
Speaker 2: why I kind of understand and and side with the

1554
01:13:11,360 --> 01:13:14,360
Speaker 2: position the abolitionists in the defund the police. I mean,

1555
01:13:14,400 --> 01:13:19,640
Speaker 2: I definitely staying with defund the police period. But what

1556
01:13:19,720 --> 01:13:22,559
Speaker 2: if Randy King, he's in capable of treating everybody way

1557
01:13:22,640 --> 01:13:25,320
Speaker 2: treats you right, And that's what we're saying. Think about

1558
01:13:25,320 --> 01:13:28,160
Speaker 2: what we're saying Right now, police are under more scrutiny

1559
01:13:28,240 --> 01:13:28,880
Speaker 2: than ever.

1560
01:13:29,360 --> 01:13:33,320
Speaker 1: Everything is filmed. Every we see every fucking thing.

1561
01:13:33,439 --> 01:13:37,960
Speaker 2: Now body cameras, every restaurant got some type of CCTV.

1562
01:13:38,400 --> 01:13:40,680
Speaker 2: Every person has a fucking phone in their pocket that

1563
01:13:40,720 --> 01:13:44,520
Speaker 2: can broadcast to the world, and they're still beating protesters

1564
01:13:44,560 --> 01:13:47,160
Speaker 2: and it's still killing black people. Another one got killed

1565
01:13:47,600 --> 01:13:51,599
Speaker 2: at UH in Atlanta today at a Wendy's or some

1566
01:13:51,600 --> 01:13:55,920
Speaker 2: some some restaurant drive through, and it was caught on camera.

1567
01:13:56,200 --> 01:14:00,559
Speaker 2: The police chief in Atlanta she resigned today. They know

1568
01:14:00,640 --> 01:14:03,760
Speaker 2: they're being watched. They just pulled two kids out of

1569
01:14:05,120 --> 01:14:07,360
Speaker 2: in a college, out of a car and four officers

1570
01:14:07,360 --> 01:14:10,040
Speaker 2: got in trouble and all this stuff. What if they

1571
01:14:10,120 --> 01:14:13,040
Speaker 2: can't stop? You see what I'm saying. So that's why

1572
01:14:13,040 --> 01:14:17,800
Speaker 2: people are like abolition, fuck them, start over like none

1573
01:14:18,040 --> 01:14:21,440
Speaker 2: imagine brand new solutions. That's why people are definitely like defund.

1574
01:14:22,040 --> 01:14:25,559
Speaker 2: That's where it's coming from. But I think everything you

1575
01:14:25,640 --> 01:14:30,080
Speaker 2: said was right is that most people are not there yet,

1576
01:14:30,680 --> 01:14:31,040
Speaker 2: and you.

1577
01:14:31,000 --> 01:14:33,360
Speaker 5: Have to get me there, like like I can change.

1578
01:14:33,640 --> 01:14:34,479
Speaker 5: I was upsided.

1579
01:14:34,720 --> 01:14:37,120
Speaker 4: I can change, but you got to get me there.

1580
01:14:37,400 --> 01:14:40,160
Speaker 4: You can't turn around and be like defund.

1581
01:14:40,160 --> 01:14:42,599
Speaker 5: And I'm like, Okay, if a crime happens, then fuck

1582
01:14:42,680 --> 01:14:43,360
Speaker 5: what not?

1583
01:14:43,360 --> 01:14:45,320
Speaker 4: Tell me funny, I don't give I don't give a

1584
01:14:45,320 --> 01:14:47,120
Speaker 4: fuck about your baader.

1585
01:14:46,840 --> 01:14:49,759
Speaker 5: Your community. Who's going to enforce these laws?

1586
01:14:49,920 --> 01:14:52,519
Speaker 4: Who's going to say if you do this, somebody needs

1587
01:14:52,520 --> 01:14:55,120
Speaker 4: to be able to come in and make it go forward.

1588
01:14:55,280 --> 01:14:57,599
Speaker 4: It can't be like my memo in them. And if

1589
01:14:57,640 --> 01:14:59,559
Speaker 4: somebody's been like fuck your me mind and then I

1590
01:14:59,600 --> 01:15:01,720
Speaker 4: got gun us, what are you gonna do? These are

1591
01:15:01,760 --> 01:15:02,880
Speaker 4: dout questions to me.

1592
01:15:03,680 --> 01:15:07,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so I feel like, look, you, the only

1593
01:15:07,520 --> 01:15:12,200
Speaker 2: thing you can do is try to educate people. It's

1594
01:15:12,200 --> 01:15:13,920
Speaker 2: not gonna come from yelling at them. It's not gonna

1595
01:15:13,920 --> 01:15:16,000
Speaker 2: come from trying to make them feel stupid about the ship.

1596
01:15:16,240 --> 01:15:18,760
Speaker 2: Especially if your whole point is I'm saving the community,

1597
01:15:19,080 --> 01:15:20,920
Speaker 2: then you got to get the community on board. If

1598
01:15:20,920 --> 01:15:22,920
Speaker 2: not that, you're gonna find out what the community really wants.

1599
01:15:22,960 --> 01:15:27,280
Speaker 2: It's not what you're telling everybody they want. So hopefully

1600
01:15:27,280 --> 01:15:29,360
Speaker 2: we'll see. Man, Like I said, this is a great

1601
01:15:29,400 --> 01:15:31,040
Speaker 2: time of change. I'm very optimistic.

1602
01:15:31,080 --> 01:15:31,919
Speaker 1: I'm very hopeful.

1603
01:15:32,760 --> 01:15:35,479
Speaker 2: I know Minneapolis is doing some things right now that

1604
01:15:35,520 --> 01:15:38,680
Speaker 2: I never thought I see in my lifetime. So you know,

1605
01:15:39,000 --> 01:15:41,880
Speaker 2: I hope, I hope everyone does surprise me and we

1606
01:15:41,960 --> 01:15:44,439
Speaker 2: find some different solutions because I know for a fact

1607
01:15:44,439 --> 01:15:45,320
Speaker 2: this shit ain't working.

1608
01:15:45,600 --> 01:15:49,760
Speaker 4: And I agree, and I lean more towards defund and

1609
01:15:49,800 --> 01:15:51,320
Speaker 4: redistributing the money.

1610
01:15:51,400 --> 01:15:54,400
Speaker 5: I like like that that. Now that part I can

1611
01:15:54,800 --> 01:15:57,400
Speaker 5: my mind can wrap around that question.

1612
01:15:57,720 --> 01:16:01,360
Speaker 2: I mean, honestly, you know, it's weird you have to

1613
01:16:01,360 --> 01:16:04,439
Speaker 2: put a caveat between this shit. But you know, I

1614
01:16:05,360 --> 01:16:08,639
Speaker 2: think it's kind of understood that most people understand there's

1615
01:16:08,680 --> 01:16:13,880
Speaker 2: a function of policing that you know, theoretically works and

1616
01:16:14,280 --> 01:16:17,640
Speaker 2: it's needed, but in the execution is fucking terrible. So

1617
01:16:18,080 --> 01:16:19,840
Speaker 2: you know, so what am I gonna do defend your

1618
01:16:19,960 --> 01:16:22,760
Speaker 2: terrible job. I'm not you know, I didn't kill no

1619
01:16:22,840 --> 01:16:25,400
Speaker 2: black people. I'm not about to fucking hop in front

1620
01:16:25,400 --> 01:16:27,960
Speaker 2: of this bullet for you. Not none of these puns

1621
01:16:27,960 --> 01:16:29,960
Speaker 2: and trying to be funny. They just sound that way,

1622
01:16:30,000 --> 01:16:32,519
Speaker 2: But yeah, I'm not doing any of that for you,

1623
01:16:32,560 --> 01:16:34,960
Speaker 2: like y'all the ones that can't stop telling us for fuck,

1624
01:16:35,000 --> 01:16:37,160
Speaker 2: I look like defending your shit right.

1625
01:16:37,280 --> 01:16:40,519
Speaker 5: And the thing is, somebody say reallocate. I think that

1626
01:16:40,720 --> 01:16:42,920
Speaker 5: when you say defund, a lot of people bristle up.

1627
01:16:43,160 --> 01:16:45,240
Speaker 4: I think language means things that they was like, we

1628
01:16:45,280 --> 01:16:47,360
Speaker 4: want to reallocate a lot of people like okay.

1629
01:16:47,120 --> 01:16:49,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Well I was talking to Randolph Terrace today

1630
01:16:49,800 --> 01:16:53,639
Speaker 2: and the other guys are three yn you know, Andy

1631
01:16:53,880 --> 01:16:58,120
Speaker 2: and Tim, And my thing was like, why do like

1632
01:16:58,200 --> 01:17:01,240
Speaker 2: people always go liberals are terrible, but you know, coming

1633
01:17:01,320 --> 01:17:03,920
Speaker 2: up with these slogans and these simple ideas to sell

1634
01:17:03,960 --> 01:17:07,400
Speaker 2: to everybody and nobody can understand it, and you know,

1635
01:17:07,520 --> 01:17:09,439
Speaker 2: they always fucked up. So they come up with defund

1636
01:17:09,479 --> 01:17:12,759
Speaker 2: the police and abolish the police, two pretty simple things,

1637
01:17:12,800 --> 01:17:16,719
Speaker 2: and then we start examining them. Almost neither of them

1638
01:17:17,320 --> 01:17:23,320
Speaker 2: are are so solidly defined as one thing right And

1639
01:17:23,360 --> 01:17:26,320
Speaker 2: the thing with people on the left is at their fingers,

1640
01:17:26,960 --> 01:17:28,880
Speaker 2: unlike the people on the right, who are so evil

1641
01:17:28,880 --> 01:17:31,679
Speaker 2: and vow they will push off out the side because

1642
01:17:31,680 --> 01:17:34,120
Speaker 2: you know what, they didn't ask what this means defund

1643
01:17:34,160 --> 01:17:34,799
Speaker 2: playing parenthood.

1644
01:17:34,840 --> 01:17:35,800
Speaker 1: They don't care what it means.

1645
01:17:36,120 --> 01:17:38,719
Speaker 2: They know that it hurts playing parenthood, and playing parenthood

1646
01:17:38,800 --> 01:17:42,240
Speaker 2: is the enemy to them, so they support defunding playing parenthood.

1647
01:17:42,360 --> 01:17:44,720
Speaker 1: Period. They don't give a fuck. Well, they didn't go,

1648
01:17:44,960 --> 01:17:45,919
Speaker 1: don't you mean abolished?

1649
01:17:45,960 --> 01:17:48,400
Speaker 2: They just said, oh yeah, yeah, we'll do that and

1650
01:17:48,439 --> 01:17:50,120
Speaker 2: we'll figure out what it means on the way. But

1651
01:17:50,160 --> 01:17:53,920
Speaker 2: we have to defund what liberal people they're like, whatd

1652
01:17:53,960 --> 01:17:57,920
Speaker 2: this defund mean? And so instead of them getting into like, well,

1653
01:17:57,960 --> 01:17:59,639
Speaker 2: this is what it means this is how we're gonna

1654
01:17:59,640 --> 01:18:02,640
Speaker 2: gop got it. They start going, you stupid motherfucker, you

1655
01:18:02,720 --> 01:18:04,760
Speaker 2: must not you must love the police or whatever, and

1656
01:18:04,760 --> 01:18:07,800
Speaker 2: it's like a big ass argument and it's everything.

1657
01:18:07,439 --> 01:18:09,120
Speaker 1: Except what the fuck it started out as?

1658
01:18:09,360 --> 01:18:12,360
Speaker 2: Right, And even within that context, you got a lot

1659
01:18:12,400 --> 01:18:14,680
Speaker 2: of people being like, well, defunding looks like this to me.

1660
01:18:15,120 --> 01:18:17,120
Speaker 2: Defunding looks like that to me. And then some other

1661
01:18:17,160 --> 01:18:19,439
Speaker 2: asshole jumps off the top rope and goes, fuck you,

1662
01:18:19,880 --> 01:18:23,200
Speaker 2: that's not what we want. We want abolition, abolished the police.

1663
01:18:23,240 --> 01:18:26,000
Speaker 2: Well what does that mean? Well about abolition looks like this,

1664
01:18:26,080 --> 01:18:28,439
Speaker 2: and we can start building new system. And another person says, no,

1665
01:18:28,720 --> 01:18:31,400
Speaker 2: when I say abolition, I mean abolition. Ain't no new system.

1666
01:18:31,439 --> 01:18:33,439
Speaker 2: Fuck the police, fuck all this shit. We could do

1667
01:18:33,560 --> 01:18:36,680
Speaker 2: it ourselves, you know. And so you have all this

1668
01:18:36,880 --> 01:18:40,240
Speaker 2: fighting over here. But maybe the truth is there are

1669
01:18:40,320 --> 01:18:44,840
Speaker 2: no three word slogans that can define something as complicated

1670
01:18:45,400 --> 01:18:50,640
Speaker 2: as how society deals with infractions upon the personhood of

1671
01:18:50,720 --> 01:18:51,400
Speaker 2: other people.

1672
01:18:51,720 --> 01:18:54,680
Speaker 1: How we deal with that shit is not something that should.

1673
01:18:54,479 --> 01:18:57,080
Speaker 2: Be a post on a poster like it might just

1674
01:18:57,200 --> 01:18:59,639
Speaker 2: need to be smart people sitting in a room figuring

1675
01:18:59,640 --> 01:19:00,080
Speaker 2: it shit.

1676
01:18:59,880 --> 01:19:02,400
Speaker 1: Out communities meeting figuring this shit out.

1677
01:19:02,439 --> 01:19:05,080
Speaker 2: Maybe it's not gonna be something that goes on a

1678
01:19:05,120 --> 01:19:08,640
Speaker 2: goddamn T shirt, you know, And I think that's the

1679
01:19:08,680 --> 01:19:09,559
Speaker 2: stuff that that that.

1680
01:19:09,520 --> 01:19:12,040
Speaker 1: People get exhausted by. But it's like that's the truth.

1681
01:19:12,320 --> 01:19:13,960
Speaker 2: It's gonna be a lot of talking and a bunch

1682
01:19:13,960 --> 01:19:15,160
Speaker 2: of figuring sit out on the fly.

1683
01:19:15,320 --> 01:19:17,559
Speaker 1: It's not it's not gonna be as simple as as

1684
01:19:17,600 --> 01:19:18,200
Speaker 1: it is now.

1685
01:19:18,120 --> 01:19:19,080
Speaker 5: Because it ain't pretty.

1686
01:19:19,120 --> 01:19:21,240
Speaker 4: A lot of the marches and a lot of the

1687
01:19:21,360 --> 01:19:24,800
Speaker 4: protests that a lot of the woke people ooh and

1688
01:19:25,000 --> 01:19:28,000
Speaker 4: ah and drule over that shit was messy. I hope

1689
01:19:28,040 --> 01:19:30,280
Speaker 4: people didn't think that they just came up with this

1690
01:19:30,320 --> 01:19:33,520
Speaker 4: shit overnight and boycotted it for months and sometimes years.

1691
01:19:33,840 --> 01:19:37,360
Speaker 4: They fought, they fell out, everybody had ideas, they scratched,

1692
01:19:37,360 --> 01:19:39,400
Speaker 4: they started over again, like this is a part of

1693
01:19:39,400 --> 01:19:41,320
Speaker 4: the process.

1694
01:19:41,320 --> 01:19:42,519
Speaker 1: All right. We had a poll.

1695
01:19:42,680 --> 01:19:45,360
Speaker 2: The poll was white people watching black Feet for Black

1696
01:19:45,400 --> 01:19:48,680
Speaker 2: Lives Matter, Yes, No, or I don't care either way?

1697
01:19:48,760 --> 01:19:49,880
Speaker 5: Can I don't care?

1698
01:19:50,479 --> 01:19:51,640
Speaker 1: All right? Thirty five percent of.

1699
01:19:51,600 --> 01:19:54,880
Speaker 2: The audience does not care either way. I think I'm

1700
01:19:54,880 --> 01:19:56,120
Speaker 2: in the thirty five percent too.

1701
01:19:57,560 --> 01:19:57,880
Speaker 1: Yes.

1702
01:19:57,960 --> 01:20:00,840
Speaker 2: Twelve percent said yes, Washington feats now I needs that

1703
01:20:01,560 --> 01:20:05,320
Speaker 2: and say no, they did not like that. Uh see,

1704
01:20:05,320 --> 01:20:07,320
Speaker 2: Rebecca says, all the episodes you put out this week

1705
01:20:07,360 --> 01:20:10,599
Speaker 2: were on point. The Intercepts latest podcast goes into quite

1706
01:20:10,600 --> 01:20:13,479
Speaker 2: a bit of depth about the history about prison abolition

1707
01:20:14,280 --> 01:20:17,080
Speaker 2: uh and police reform, and it's hosted by our favorite

1708
01:20:17,360 --> 01:20:20,400
Speaker 2: from Uncivil uh Chinjerai.

1709
01:20:22,000 --> 01:20:27,240
Speaker 1: I'm mother fuck the same Kamaika Uh me too. Uh

1710
01:20:27,320 --> 01:20:27,720
Speaker 1: that that.

1711
01:20:27,760 --> 01:20:30,640
Speaker 2: Dude he'd be he'll be Uh he'd be taking it

1712
01:20:30,640 --> 01:20:31,080
Speaker 2: to him.

1713
01:20:31,160 --> 01:20:32,760
Speaker 1: Why the fuck that shall take us so long to

1714
01:20:32,760 --> 01:20:33,160
Speaker 1: come back?

1715
01:20:33,280 --> 01:20:34,960
Speaker 5: Right? I can't wait for that show to come back.

1716
01:20:35,040 --> 01:20:35,839
Speaker 1: Worth to listen.

1717
01:20:36,040 --> 01:20:37,920
Speaker 2: Earlier in the week Ride, you were talking about how

1718
01:20:37,960 --> 01:20:40,040
Speaker 2: you don't feel creative during this time.

1719
01:20:40,160 --> 01:20:41,360
Speaker 1: Boy, do I feel you there?

1720
01:20:41,640 --> 01:20:44,000
Speaker 2: I found myself playing more video games than ever to

1721
01:20:44,120 --> 01:20:47,280
Speaker 2: escape this hell we're living there, rather than my creative hobby.

1722
01:20:47,080 --> 01:20:50,479
Speaker 1: Of breadth, of beating. Oh what games you're playing?

1723
01:20:50,680 --> 01:20:50,760
Speaker 4: Oh?

1724
01:20:50,840 --> 01:20:53,840
Speaker 1: Way you can so that, Karen. The best The best

1725
01:20:53,960 --> 01:20:54,280
Speaker 1: use I.

1726
01:20:54,360 --> 01:20:56,679
Speaker 2: Found for a Crown Royal bag is for my monthly

1727
01:20:56,720 --> 01:20:59,559
Speaker 2: products when I'm on the go. I started using bags

1728
01:20:59,560 --> 01:21:01,880
Speaker 2: and this her when I was a bar tender years ago.

1729
01:21:02,280 --> 01:21:04,600
Speaker 1: Seeing's men can't.

1730
01:21:03,880 --> 01:21:07,920
Speaker 2: Handle seeing feminine products when drunk and since my boss

1731
01:21:07,960 --> 01:21:11,040
Speaker 2: wouldn't let us keep our purses and bags behind the

1732
01:21:11,080 --> 01:21:14,080
Speaker 2: bar with us, I had to resort to something in

1733
01:21:14,160 --> 01:21:17,640
Speaker 2: conspicuous and keep it in my tip jar. As a

1734
01:21:18,200 --> 01:21:21,880
Speaker 2: woman whose mother did not bless her with light monthlies,

1735
01:21:22,400 --> 01:21:25,880
Speaker 2: I can attest it holds all the products. Anyway, great

1736
01:21:25,920 --> 01:21:28,439
Speaker 2: shows this week, you too, Thank you for all your

1737
01:21:28,479 --> 01:21:32,360
Speaker 2: wonderful food for thoughts to deliver. Rebecca m thank you, Rebecca.

1738
01:21:31,920 --> 01:21:33,880
Speaker 4: And let that make you mad, because only a man

1739
01:21:33,880 --> 01:21:35,840
Speaker 4: will make a rule. You can't bring your purse up here, bitch,

1740
01:21:35,880 --> 01:21:37,759
Speaker 4: you don't carry one. What the fuck you're talking about?

1741
01:21:37,800 --> 01:21:39,720
Speaker 1: You don't have periods, sir, Shut the fuck up.

1742
01:21:40,760 --> 01:21:43,479
Speaker 2: Brie says, why would I trust the white person to

1743
01:21:43,840 --> 01:21:46,920
Speaker 2: wash my feet when they don't watch their own. Brooklyn

1744
01:21:47,000 --> 01:21:50,040
Speaker 2: Shoeve says, listen, white people out here doing way too much.

1745
01:21:50,080 --> 01:21:52,000
Speaker 2: I don't want them washing my feet. I don't want

1746
01:21:52,000 --> 01:21:54,639
Speaker 2: no apologies. I don't want that gifts. I don't want

1747
01:21:54,680 --> 01:21:57,760
Speaker 2: that shame. I don't want them wearing slave chains to

1748
01:21:57,800 --> 01:22:01,160
Speaker 2: feel my pain. I want them to check their racist friends.

1749
01:22:01,200 --> 01:22:03,880
Speaker 2: I want them to vote and vote in our best interests.

1750
01:22:03,920 --> 01:22:06,280
Speaker 2: I want them to use their privilege to change the world.

1751
01:22:06,360 --> 01:22:09,519
Speaker 2: Be anti racist, like they love rescuing dogs. Use that

1752
01:22:09,680 --> 01:22:13,240
Speaker 2: Karen power to recognize the challenge systemic racism. Talk to

1753
01:22:13,280 --> 01:22:16,479
Speaker 2: the manager of racism, you know, Lol, karens will get

1754
01:22:16,520 --> 01:22:20,280
Speaker 2: shit done. Want you want? You get what I'm saying.

1755
01:22:20,280 --> 01:22:23,280
Speaker 2: Words without action is just words. Pass on, pass me

1756
01:22:23,360 --> 01:22:25,800
Speaker 2: onn by with that shit. Once I did attend a

1757
01:22:25,840 --> 01:22:29,800
Speaker 2: Thursday church service the day before Good Friday. We wash

1758
01:22:29,880 --> 01:22:32,040
Speaker 2: each other's feet. Jesus was the son of God and

1759
01:22:32,280 --> 01:22:35,479
Speaker 2: was his disciples teacher, and he washed their feet. It

1760
01:22:35,520 --> 01:22:37,519
Speaker 2: was very humbling that to pass to wash my feet.

1761
01:22:37,800 --> 01:22:39,760
Speaker 2: Understand the sentiment of those white people, but that's not

1762
01:22:39,800 --> 01:22:42,680
Speaker 2: the action we need now. I will say this, we

1763
01:22:42,760 --> 01:22:44,479
Speaker 2: don't know that they didn't do more than that. It

1764
01:22:44,520 --> 01:22:47,040
Speaker 2: looked like they were marching and having marching for some things.

1765
01:22:47,080 --> 01:22:50,280
Speaker 2: So I don't want, you know, as someone that saw

1766
01:22:50,320 --> 01:22:52,800
Speaker 2: the clip as well, I don't want to demigod them

1767
01:22:52,840 --> 01:22:54,760
Speaker 2: in the day and't do shit like they just washing

1768
01:22:54,800 --> 01:22:57,360
Speaker 2: feet thinking it's over. They could have then went out there.

1769
01:22:57,240 --> 01:22:58,800
Speaker 1: And ripped down a Confederate statue.

1770
01:22:59,040 --> 01:22:59,479
Speaker 5: That's true.

1771
01:22:59,520 --> 01:23:02,600
Speaker 4: And I I do have a question, and like I

1772
01:23:02,640 --> 01:23:04,640
Speaker 4: don't know, this might be a sexist question. I don't know,

1773
01:23:04,640 --> 01:23:06,599
Speaker 4: but I'm gonna ask you cause I see somebody say

1774
01:23:06,640 --> 01:23:10,280
Speaker 4: in the chat, when when did you become comfortable or

1775
01:23:10,320 --> 01:23:13,600
Speaker 4: did it ever bother you about feminine products? Because you

1776
01:23:13,640 --> 01:23:16,519
Speaker 4: know how some men just to act like act like

1777
01:23:16,520 --> 01:23:18,439
Speaker 4: feminine products is the worst fucking thing in the whole

1778
01:23:18,439 --> 01:23:22,559
Speaker 4: wilde world, and oh my god, that's nasty me personally.

1779
01:23:22,680 --> 01:23:25,559
Speaker 1: Yes, you, I don't think I ever had a thing

1780
01:23:25,600 --> 01:23:26,040
Speaker 1: about it.

1781
01:23:26,040 --> 01:23:28,679
Speaker 4: I don't think you did either, Okay, you know, but look, man,

1782
01:23:29,160 --> 01:23:30,240
Speaker 4: I say this all the time.

1783
01:23:30,360 --> 01:23:31,960
Speaker 1: I don't try to say this shit on something. I'm

1784
01:23:32,000 --> 01:23:34,200
Speaker 1: such a good guy. Okay, I'm a man.

1785
01:23:34,320 --> 01:23:37,400
Speaker 2: That's just I understand where it's coming from. Ladies like

1786
01:23:37,600 --> 01:23:39,960
Speaker 2: that's not I don't think that shit at all. I

1787
01:23:40,080 --> 01:23:43,320
Speaker 2: just kind of was nerdy and aloof and I just

1788
01:23:43,400 --> 01:23:47,479
Speaker 2: kind of, you know, read a lot and lucked out

1789
01:23:48,240 --> 01:23:49,800
Speaker 2: on not being with the way.

1790
01:23:49,960 --> 01:23:52,479
Speaker 1: I think it was more of me being not cool, okay,

1791
01:23:52,680 --> 01:23:54,679
Speaker 1: because I think you're I think being cool.

1792
01:23:54,920 --> 01:23:58,040
Speaker 2: I think when you're have a lot of people around

1793
01:23:58,120 --> 01:24:01,679
Speaker 2: you kind of like learn certain shit cool and okay,

1794
01:24:01,720 --> 01:24:04,080
Speaker 2: And I think I was a sensitive little boy and shit,

1795
01:24:04,200 --> 01:24:06,400
Speaker 2: so I just didn't learn.

1796
01:24:06,600 --> 01:24:08,880
Speaker 1: Well, I'm not saying that's a bad thing. But I didn't.

1797
01:24:09,000 --> 01:24:11,519
Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, it's precious because you know, a lot

1798
01:24:11,560 --> 01:24:13,240
Speaker 4: of little boys don't have that luxury day.

1799
01:24:13,520 --> 01:24:17,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I don't think I was into the circles

1800
01:24:17,280 --> 01:24:21,120
Speaker 2: of like, eh, puss it, you know, and then you know,

1801
01:24:21,520 --> 01:24:25,400
Speaker 2: and the Vagina's administration, No, who wants.

1802
01:24:25,160 --> 01:24:25,880
Speaker 1: To deal with all that?

1803
01:24:26,120 --> 01:24:28,040
Speaker 2: And I don't think I was in the circles of like,

1804
01:24:28,800 --> 01:24:32,400
Speaker 2: you know, jack off jokes and all this type of shit.

1805
01:24:32,520 --> 01:24:32,720
Speaker 4: You know.

1806
01:24:33,040 --> 01:24:35,280
Speaker 1: Just it was just I just think that's it.

1807
01:24:35,479 --> 01:24:37,919
Speaker 2: I think I was just socialized a little bit differently

1808
01:24:38,400 --> 01:24:40,920
Speaker 2: because I was just asthmatic and nerdy. I think if

1809
01:24:40,920 --> 01:24:42,240
Speaker 2: I would have been able to kick it with the

1810
01:24:42,280 --> 01:24:45,040
Speaker 2: other dudes at that time and been out there all

1811
01:24:45,080 --> 01:24:46,479
Speaker 2: the time, I probably would have picked up a lot

1812
01:24:46,479 --> 01:24:48,360
Speaker 2: of that shit, just as much as any other dude

1813
01:24:48,880 --> 01:24:52,320
Speaker 2: picks up that shit, you know. So I have a

1814
01:24:52,320 --> 01:24:56,200
Speaker 2: little bit of like fairness thing in me. I don't

1815
01:24:56,200 --> 01:24:58,479
Speaker 2: know if that's the Libra talking or what, but you know,

1816
01:24:58,479 --> 01:25:01,960
Speaker 2: I'm definitely a on fairness. I'm big on like, what

1817
01:25:02,040 --> 01:25:03,600
Speaker 2: if you say it this way, you gotta say it

1818
01:25:03,600 --> 01:25:05,599
Speaker 2: that way, and all that kind of shit. So that

1819
01:25:05,720 --> 01:25:09,400
Speaker 2: probably is another reason I didn't pick that up. But

1820
01:25:10,360 --> 01:25:12,240
Speaker 2: I don't know. And then I've really never been in

1821
01:25:12,280 --> 01:25:16,639
Speaker 2: a situation where like I've had to do much about uh,

1822
01:25:17,640 --> 01:25:20,280
Speaker 2: tampons and whatever stuff, you know what I mean. So

1823
01:25:20,320 --> 01:25:23,320
Speaker 2: I don't, like, I don't even know, Like I don't

1824
01:25:23,320 --> 01:25:24,840
Speaker 2: even think you've ever sent me to the store by

1825
01:25:24,880 --> 01:25:27,400
Speaker 2: myself for that, So I don't even know.

1826
01:25:28,680 --> 01:25:31,559
Speaker 1: Together. Yeah, but so I don't. But I mean not

1827
01:25:31,640 --> 01:25:32,599
Speaker 1: that I would be against it.

1828
01:25:32,640 --> 01:25:34,400
Speaker 2: I mean I probably have to hit you up and

1829
01:25:34,400 --> 01:25:35,800
Speaker 2: be like, let me just make sure I'm getting the

1830
01:25:35,840 --> 01:25:36,160
Speaker 2: right thing.

1831
01:25:37,320 --> 01:25:39,439
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's just I don't know. I just ain't

1832
01:25:39,479 --> 01:25:39,840
Speaker 1: had that.

1833
01:25:40,520 --> 01:25:44,120
Speaker 2: I haven't had that experience, you know, like you was

1834
01:25:44,160 --> 01:25:46,360
Speaker 2: the one that thought the periods is gross and shit.

1835
01:25:46,560 --> 01:25:52,280
Speaker 4: I mean so, and it's not that that that grows

1836
01:25:52,680 --> 01:25:54,880
Speaker 4: anything like that. I think when we were talking about

1837
01:25:54,840 --> 01:25:57,320
Speaker 4: the period party something about with Laila, because I was

1838
01:25:57,320 --> 01:25:58,880
Speaker 4: thinking about what Layla and things like that.

1839
01:25:59,120 --> 01:26:00,840
Speaker 5: I just think it was my own.

1840
01:26:02,280 --> 01:26:07,000
Speaker 4: Personal hang ups with just the process and how it

1841
01:26:07,040 --> 01:26:09,519
Speaker 4: was introduced to me and things like that, not the

1842
01:26:09,720 --> 01:26:11,160
Speaker 4: not the products themselves.

1843
01:26:11,200 --> 01:26:11,360
Speaker 1: Rang.

1844
01:26:11,439 --> 01:26:15,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you were probably and you were I'm sure socialized.

1845
01:26:14,600 --> 01:26:16,360
Speaker 1: Into that, yes, you know what I mean.

1846
01:26:16,439 --> 01:26:19,840
Speaker 2: So if you have people that I don't know, socialize

1847
01:26:19,880 --> 01:26:22,960
Speaker 2: you into shit a lot if you you gotta have

1848
01:26:23,040 --> 01:26:25,519
Speaker 2: empathy for people, because a lot of stuff there's a

1849
01:26:25,560 --> 01:26:27,720
Speaker 2: point where your baggage is your baggage. Okay, don't get

1850
01:26:27,720 --> 01:26:30,400
Speaker 2: me wrong, but a lot of the baggage it was

1851
01:26:30,479 --> 01:26:33,320
Speaker 2: handed to you and then you start carrying it because

1852
01:26:33,320 --> 01:26:35,200
Speaker 2: someone else told you that's what you were supposed to do.

1853
01:26:35,920 --> 01:26:38,120
Speaker 1: And you know, there's a lot of shit that at

1854
01:26:38,200 --> 01:26:40,120
Speaker 1: least for me, I'm just like, I don't want to

1855
01:26:40,160 --> 01:26:41,880
Speaker 1: do the shit that you think I'm supposed to do.

1856
01:26:42,800 --> 01:26:44,400
Speaker 2: Like you look at me and say see me a

1857
01:26:44,439 --> 01:26:46,799
Speaker 2: certain way that might not be how I see myself.

1858
01:26:46,800 --> 01:26:49,120
Speaker 2: And I don't want to do the things just because

1859
01:26:49,120 --> 01:26:50,519
Speaker 2: everybody else is doing them, you know.

1860
01:26:50,640 --> 01:26:53,920
Speaker 1: So to me, it was never like a tampon what

1861
01:26:53,960 --> 01:26:54,519
Speaker 1: I'm gonna.

1862
01:26:54,320 --> 01:26:57,920
Speaker 5: Do with this, like, well, get that pad out of here.

1863
01:26:58,040 --> 01:26:59,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm sure there's a bunch of other shit

1864
01:26:59,600 --> 01:27:02,640
Speaker 2: that I do believe in and now socializing too. So

1865
01:27:02,760 --> 01:27:05,960
Speaker 2: whatever Kim Dox says, fucked the feet washing, fuck the kneeling,

1866
01:27:05,960 --> 01:27:07,839
Speaker 2: stopped kneeling, Its disrespectful, the disgrace.

1867
01:27:08,360 --> 01:27:10,320
Speaker 1: George, Yeah, the knely thing.

1868
01:27:10,240 --> 01:27:12,480
Speaker 2: Is so weird because on the one hand, it's solidarity

1869
01:27:12,720 --> 01:27:17,000
Speaker 2: with Kaepernick and it is the chosen form of protests

1870
01:27:17,040 --> 01:27:17,800
Speaker 2: that he went with.

1871
01:27:18,040 --> 01:27:21,360
Speaker 1: But on the other hand, that's how George Flood Floyd

1872
01:27:21,400 --> 01:27:25,439
Speaker 1: got killed. So it's it's like this, I thought these

1873
01:27:25,479 --> 01:27:29,559
Speaker 1: protesters for him. It's just it's it's a lie going

1874
01:27:29,560 --> 01:27:30,160
Speaker 1: on that once.

1875
01:27:30,640 --> 01:27:33,960
Speaker 2: I you know, I feel sorry for every person trying

1876
01:27:33,960 --> 01:27:36,040
Speaker 2: to make a statement, because it ain't no right statements

1877
01:27:36,080 --> 01:27:39,640
Speaker 2: out there. George Floyd died under knee, What did you

1878
01:27:39,720 --> 01:27:41,880
Speaker 2: take in the knee and looking solemn for the black

1879
01:27:41,920 --> 01:27:45,880
Speaker 2: community do, especially when you're gonna pepper spray tear gas

1880
01:27:45,920 --> 01:27:46,400
Speaker 2: him anyway?

1881
01:27:46,439 --> 01:27:47,960
Speaker 1: Fucking discussing Aaron Diigulas.

1882
01:27:48,200 --> 01:27:50,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm more upset about that last part, Like y'all

1883
01:27:50,800 --> 01:27:54,360
Speaker 2: nigga's tear gassing us anyway, stop dancing the macarena with us.

1884
01:27:55,040 --> 01:28:00,720
Speaker 1: I'll have more fucking unholstering the pepper sprays. Hey macarena. Okay,

1885
01:28:00,840 --> 01:28:05,639
Speaker 1: Son just went down, guys, Right, Son just went down. Guys.

1886
01:28:05,720 --> 01:28:08,760
Speaker 1: Let's go ahead and light them up boys, like out

1887
01:28:08,800 --> 01:28:09,000
Speaker 1: of here.

1888
01:28:09,600 --> 01:28:12,479
Speaker 2: I voted yes, Miss Barnes says, because it's hysterical and

1889
01:28:12,520 --> 01:28:15,320
Speaker 2: I'm about all the jokes of life writing themselves since

1890
01:28:15,360 --> 01:28:18,000
Speaker 2: I'm Catholic, I will insist at a revernde priest blessed

1891
01:28:18,000 --> 01:28:21,719
Speaker 2: the bottle of Pinot grigio I'm bringing before I drink it. Amen,

1892
01:28:23,600 --> 01:28:26,040
Speaker 2: listen cash here while you can. This white guilt is

1893
01:28:26,160 --> 01:28:30,880
Speaker 2: not lasting forever, so I ain't mad at y'all. All right,

1894
01:28:31,000 --> 01:28:32,600
Speaker 2: let me oh, all right, I.

1895
01:28:32,720 --> 01:28:35,160
Speaker 1: Go to the next segment. All right, we do have

1896
01:28:35,439 --> 01:28:36,599
Speaker 1: some voicemails this week.

1897
01:28:36,680 --> 01:28:38,920
Speaker 2: Seven oh four five five seven zero one eighty six

1898
01:28:39,000 --> 01:28:41,439
Speaker 2: is the voicemail line two minutes or less, so you

1899
01:28:41,520 --> 01:28:42,320
Speaker 2: will get cut off.

1900
01:28:42,920 --> 01:28:47,719
Speaker 8: Hi, Ronn and Karen, it's the lekra. I am twenty

1901
01:28:47,880 --> 01:28:53,120
Speaker 8: eight minutes into your Black Supremacist episode and you're playing

1902
01:28:53,200 --> 01:28:58,360
Speaker 8: back the first person, the white woman who was disgusted,

1903
01:28:58,920 --> 01:29:01,400
Speaker 8: and all I can hear was that chick's voice, the

1904
01:29:01,479 --> 01:29:05,440
Speaker 8: one the clip you guys play for this is ridiculous.

1905
01:29:07,360 --> 01:29:08,679
Speaker 8: That's what I kept hearing.

1906
01:29:08,840 --> 01:29:09,439
Speaker 5: That's my girl.

1907
01:29:09,680 --> 01:29:11,560
Speaker 8: It was this woman talking about.

1908
01:29:14,280 --> 01:29:16,760
Speaker 9: It's not funny, but it's also kind of funny.

1909
01:29:17,680 --> 01:29:24,439
Speaker 8: Talking about how she's, you know, disgusted by the actions

1910
01:29:24,439 --> 01:29:28,200
Speaker 8: of the police and LAPD. I mean, ALPD, let's just

1911
01:29:28,280 --> 01:29:34,000
Speaker 8: be real, but LAPD, because I'm from LA that history

1912
01:29:34,360 --> 01:29:38,200
Speaker 8: that Ronnie King business is my first introduction, like visible

1913
01:29:38,320 --> 01:29:41,599
Speaker 8: introduction to police brutality. Not to say that I didn't

1914
01:29:41,640 --> 01:29:44,639
Speaker 8: know it existed, just to say that as a twenty

1915
01:29:44,760 --> 01:29:48,760
Speaker 8: year old seeing that in real time and the subsequent

1916
01:29:49,640 --> 01:29:54,320
Speaker 8: results of it, I've been through a lot. I've been

1917
01:29:54,360 --> 01:29:56,200
Speaker 8: through a lot in the last twenty years. We've all

1918
01:29:56,280 --> 01:29:59,599
Speaker 8: been through a lot. Anyway, the woman's voice just made

1919
01:29:59,640 --> 01:30:01,880
Speaker 8: me think of Homegirl and that had to call and

1920
01:30:02,040 --> 01:30:04,439
Speaker 8: tell you guys that I thought that was hilarious. Thanks

1921
01:30:04,560 --> 01:30:05,599
Speaker 8: and of course love.

1922
01:30:05,479 --> 01:30:09,280
Speaker 1: You to thank you. That's who should have called in

1923
01:30:09,360 --> 01:30:13,680
Speaker 1: to the l A p D. Right, this is ridiculous.

1924
01:30:14,160 --> 01:30:18,160
Speaker 1: Got the crap. We are done right, we would not

1925
01:30:18,320 --> 01:30:22,280
Speaker 1: beat the blacks, all right? Next voicemail, Hi riting Karen,

1926
01:30:22,560 --> 01:30:23,240
Speaker 1: it's the show.

1927
01:30:25,360 --> 01:30:30,519
Speaker 9: I gotta say I love your last two episodes. One

1928
01:30:31,840 --> 01:30:36,000
Speaker 9: boy would Junior is one of my favorite comedians. He's

1929
01:30:36,000 --> 01:30:37,919
Speaker 9: from Birmingham, Alix going in Birmingham.

1930
01:30:38,920 --> 01:30:39,559
Speaker 1: I love him.

1931
01:30:39,680 --> 01:30:44,680
Speaker 9: He is hilarious. I hope he'll be back on before.

1932
01:30:46,360 --> 01:30:53,799
Speaker 1: The uhh do we lose Michelle? Let me say, uh.

1933
01:30:55,520 --> 01:30:56,280
Speaker 5: Oh we might.

1934
01:31:00,160 --> 01:31:00,720
Speaker 9: Jpeg.

1935
01:31:01,000 --> 01:31:03,719
Speaker 1: Oh okay, no, it just stopped for some reason the end.

1936
01:31:03,640 --> 01:31:04,320
Speaker 8: Of the year.

1937
01:31:06,520 --> 01:31:10,960
Speaker 9: And then also the Welcome to the Cookout episode.

1938
01:31:11,600 --> 01:31:13,920
Speaker 8: I don't know if you use Canva dot com to

1939
01:31:14,040 --> 01:31:14,479
Speaker 8: create that.

1940
01:31:15,840 --> 01:31:22,559
Speaker 9: I did cookout little jpeg that was hilarious. I loved

1941
01:31:23,560 --> 01:31:27,160
Speaker 9: that whole segment. I don't know if I love Welcome

1942
01:31:27,280 --> 01:31:32,200
Speaker 9: to the Cookout segment more than Black Capitalism, But right

1943
01:31:32,280 --> 01:31:37,800
Speaker 9: now you're tied the best news of segments on the

1944
01:31:37,840 --> 01:31:40,200
Speaker 9: Black Eye, Hoop Tips and last week. I just want

1945
01:31:40,240 --> 01:31:45,120
Speaker 9: to say thank you guys for making this whole time

1946
01:31:46,120 --> 01:31:50,160
Speaker 9: a little light with your comedy and I really appreciate it.

1947
01:31:50,520 --> 01:31:52,919
Speaker 9: Take care bye, Thank you, Michelle.

1948
01:31:53,560 --> 01:31:54,360
Speaker 1: We'll appreciate you.

1949
01:31:54,840 --> 01:31:59,519
Speaker 2: And uh yeah, it's weird because, like I said, I

1950
01:32:00,120 --> 01:32:02,680
Speaker 2: wasn't feeling that creative through all this, but it's kind

1951
01:32:02,680 --> 01:32:06,240
Speaker 2: of been coming coming back. And it's weird because creative

1952
01:32:06,520 --> 01:32:10,200
Speaker 2: for a podcast is different than like music or art

1953
01:32:10,360 --> 01:32:13,280
Speaker 2: as far as like, you know, paintings and shit. But

1954
01:32:13,720 --> 01:32:17,080
Speaker 2: some of the stuff that does like feel inspirational, you know,

1955
01:32:17,439 --> 01:32:20,760
Speaker 2: for me, is being like, Okay, I'm noticing the trend

1956
01:32:20,800 --> 01:32:23,960
Speaker 2: of articles all these white people doing the bare minimum,

1957
01:32:24,120 --> 01:32:26,439
Speaker 2: sometimes more than a bare minimum, but doing a lot

1958
01:32:26,479 --> 01:32:28,880
Speaker 2: of stuff because they feel guilty about blackness and stuff.

1959
01:32:28,920 --> 01:32:30,080
Speaker 1: Right now, they want to help out.

1960
01:32:30,680 --> 01:32:34,800
Speaker 2: And wouldn't it be funny if we were combining the

1961
01:32:34,880 --> 01:32:40,800
Speaker 2: cookout idea with these white folks wanting to you know,

1962
01:32:41,000 --> 01:32:44,000
Speaker 2: to like trying to be down, And what if we

1963
01:32:44,120 --> 01:32:46,320
Speaker 2: made the idea. I know you shouldn't really explain how

1964
01:32:46,320 --> 01:32:48,320
Speaker 2: your jokes, but what if you made the idea like

1965
01:32:49,240 --> 01:32:50,400
Speaker 2: anyone gets seen?

1966
01:32:51,120 --> 01:32:51,760
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

1967
01:32:51,800 --> 01:32:54,000
Speaker 2: Like the whole thing is, any of them can get in,

1968
01:32:54,160 --> 01:32:57,519
Speaker 2: even if they're terrible, we know they're racist, We don't

1969
01:32:57,560 --> 01:33:00,479
Speaker 2: want them in at all. It's a fictional thing anyway,

1970
01:33:00,920 --> 01:33:03,160
Speaker 2: and with my reputation, are just letting people in for

1971
01:33:03,280 --> 01:33:06,599
Speaker 2: the minimum as a joke? I'm like, Yo, what would

1972
01:33:06,640 --> 01:33:09,360
Speaker 2: be funnier than just being like all the racist white

1973
01:33:09,400 --> 01:33:09,760
Speaker 2: people that.

1974
01:33:09,920 --> 01:33:12,800
Speaker 1: Just met Rodney? Hey, come on in, George W. Bush,

1975
01:33:13,040 --> 01:33:13,479
Speaker 1: come on in.

1976
01:33:13,560 --> 01:33:15,080
Speaker 2: And I was like, oh, and then we could play

1977
01:33:15,160 --> 01:33:19,240
Speaker 2: like a different popular black song that you hear, cookouts

1978
01:33:19,280 --> 01:33:20,519
Speaker 2: and shit for each person.

1979
01:33:21,080 --> 01:33:21,880
Speaker 1: And then eventually I.

1980
01:33:21,920 --> 01:33:24,720
Speaker 2: Was like, ooh, the songs could like kind of tie

1981
01:33:24,800 --> 01:33:26,800
Speaker 2: into who the person is, and that becomes kind of

1982
01:33:26,840 --> 01:33:29,559
Speaker 2: a joke. You know, it's playing stomp for Mitt Romney

1983
01:33:29,640 --> 01:33:31,880
Speaker 2: and stuff, and it's still off the fly. Sometimes so

1984
01:33:32,400 --> 01:33:33,760
Speaker 2: because I don't know which one's on going to do

1985
01:33:33,840 --> 01:33:35,640
Speaker 2: each time, and the song choice is kind of.

1986
01:33:35,680 --> 01:33:36,280
Speaker 1: Like on the fly.

1987
01:33:36,520 --> 01:33:38,920
Speaker 2: But you know, I like to think in my mind,

1988
01:33:39,040 --> 01:33:42,080
Speaker 2: I was like, this is hilarious to me, you know,

1989
01:33:42,200 --> 01:33:44,920
Speaker 2: and then Karen doesn't know until I do the show

1990
01:33:45,320 --> 01:33:46,880
Speaker 2: about the segment and stuff.

1991
01:33:47,000 --> 01:33:49,880
Speaker 1: And then you know, Karen liked it, the audience liked it.

1992
01:33:50,000 --> 01:33:53,400
Speaker 2: People would, you know, of course miffed, you know on Twitter,

1993
01:33:53,560 --> 01:33:55,400
Speaker 2: like Row'd you keep letting these people in and shit,

1994
01:33:55,800 --> 01:33:59,439
Speaker 2: But that's the point, you know, So I'm just glad

1995
01:33:59,479 --> 01:34:02,080
Speaker 2: that a lot of people really resonated with it, and honestly,

1996
01:34:02,200 --> 01:34:05,639
Speaker 2: man like, I feel like at this point in time,

1997
01:34:05,920 --> 01:34:08,920
Speaker 2: the calling that I feel and the calling for the

1998
01:34:09,000 --> 01:34:13,439
Speaker 2: show is to kind of make to feel still find

1999
01:34:13,479 --> 01:34:16,240
Speaker 2: some lightness in this, Yes, to still find.

2000
01:34:16,040 --> 01:34:17,240
Speaker 1: Some humor in this. You know.

2001
01:34:17,320 --> 01:34:21,880
Speaker 2: I watched Dave Chappelle's eight forty six. It's on YouTube.

2002
01:34:21,960 --> 01:34:24,120
Speaker 2: I think maybe it's on Netflix too. I watched that

2003
01:34:24,479 --> 01:34:27,439
Speaker 2: the other night, and even Dave Chappelle can't really find

2004
01:34:27,520 --> 01:34:30,519
Speaker 2: the funny inness, you know what I mean. And that's

2005
01:34:30,520 --> 01:34:33,040
Speaker 2: a dude that you know, pretty much laughs at all

2006
01:34:33,160 --> 01:34:36,479
Speaker 2: fucked up things as his method of coping. You know,

2007
01:34:36,600 --> 01:34:39,439
Speaker 2: I've already spoken about some of the stand up specialism

2008
01:34:39,479 --> 01:34:41,320
Speaker 2: and how I feel about them, but just in general,

2009
01:34:42,400 --> 01:34:45,360
Speaker 2: he couldn't find nothing funny to say, like, this's not

2010
01:34:45,439 --> 01:34:46,360
Speaker 2: a very funny time.

2011
01:34:46,479 --> 01:34:47,799
Speaker 1: These aren't funny things happening.

2012
01:34:49,160 --> 01:34:52,680
Speaker 2: So it really does make me feel like we're doing

2013
01:34:52,720 --> 01:34:54,800
Speaker 2: a good job when we can find some funny angle

2014
01:34:54,840 --> 01:34:58,120
Speaker 2: to tackle these save stories that other people are you know,

2015
01:34:58,520 --> 01:35:00,880
Speaker 2: you know, ripping off their shirts and crying in the

2016
01:35:00,920 --> 01:35:03,639
Speaker 2: streets over you know, to be able to say, hey,

2017
01:35:03,800 --> 01:35:05,840
Speaker 2: you can still listen to us and still crack a

2018
01:35:05,880 --> 01:35:07,519
Speaker 2: smile and you don't have to feel bad about it,

2019
01:35:08,120 --> 01:35:09,800
Speaker 2: you know, like you're not coming here, and that we're

2020
01:35:09,840 --> 01:35:12,639
Speaker 2: being like if you said you a piece of shit,

2021
01:35:12,760 --> 01:35:15,040
Speaker 2: Like we're just we're being like, you're right.

2022
01:35:15,160 --> 01:35:17,000
Speaker 1: This is sad, but also it's a.

2023
01:35:17,000 --> 01:35:20,000
Speaker 2: Little funny, you know, and I'm glad that it's resonating

2024
01:35:20,040 --> 01:35:23,800
Speaker 2: with people and that they get it all right.

2025
01:35:23,920 --> 01:35:27,320
Speaker 1: Jen is our last Jen from Brooklyn. Hey, y'all, it's

2026
01:35:27,479 --> 01:35:28,360
Speaker 1: Jen from Brooklyn.

2027
01:35:28,760 --> 01:35:31,120
Speaker 6: Hopefully an amazing weekend.

2028
01:35:31,840 --> 01:35:33,720
Speaker 7: I just wanted to call and say hello and thank

2029
01:35:33,760 --> 01:35:35,439
Speaker 7: you for all the episodes this week.

2030
01:35:36,280 --> 01:35:40,880
Speaker 6: Appreciate y'all as always. Well, what's it gonna tell you

2031
01:35:41,000 --> 01:35:41,320
Speaker 6: to y'all.

2032
01:35:41,439 --> 01:35:46,360
Speaker 7: Oh, number one, I would like to formally request that

2033
01:35:46,479 --> 01:35:47,640
Speaker 7: y'all bring Justin on this.

2034
01:35:47,720 --> 01:35:50,000
Speaker 6: Week or soon because we miss him.

2035
01:35:51,080 --> 01:35:52,960
Speaker 7: And you know, I'm gonna You know what I'm gonna

2036
01:35:53,000 --> 01:35:58,240
Speaker 7: do is I'm gonna go premium people I need like

2037
01:35:58,479 --> 01:36:00,240
Speaker 7: Karen Justin energy.

2038
01:36:00,160 --> 01:36:01,200
Speaker 6: Like I love that dynamic.

2039
01:36:02,439 --> 01:36:06,760
Speaker 7: Welcome to the request, you know what I'm saying, if

2040
01:36:06,760 --> 01:36:07,840
Speaker 7: he has the capacity.

2041
01:36:09,640 --> 01:36:14,840
Speaker 6: Also, I watched Dave Chappelle's special. I'm sure y'all are going.

2042
01:36:14,800 --> 01:36:17,720
Speaker 7: To talk about it, and I thought about Chelle the

2043
01:36:17,720 --> 01:36:20,960
Speaker 7: whole time. I thought it was really interesting and powerful.

2044
01:36:21,600 --> 01:36:24,400
Speaker 7: And it's just funny that I'll be watching stuff and

2045
01:36:24,479 --> 01:36:26,639
Speaker 7: thinking about y'all because I wonder what y'all.

2046
01:36:26,479 --> 01:36:27,320
Speaker 6: Are thinking about it.

2047
01:36:28,680 --> 01:36:30,599
Speaker 7: And it's funny that he talked about Candice Owens.

2048
01:36:30,400 --> 01:36:34,599
Speaker 6: Because I had never seen her face until like last week,

2049
01:36:35,120 --> 01:36:37,880
Speaker 6: and she was talking about George Floyd's record, and Dave

2050
01:36:37,960 --> 01:36:43,679
Speaker 6: Chappelle obviously brought that up, and I was like this, I'm.

2051
01:36:43,479 --> 01:36:45,439
Speaker 7: Not even gonna I'm not gonna call out her name,

2052
01:36:45,520 --> 01:36:48,800
Speaker 7: but anyway, I love y'all that y'all happen a great week,

2053
01:36:49,960 --> 01:36:52,320
Speaker 7: and yeah, thanks everything, Bye.

2054
01:36:52,720 --> 01:36:56,400
Speaker 2: Thank you, So first of all, yeah, I'm definitely, Uh,

2055
01:36:57,439 --> 01:37:00,560
Speaker 2: it's so funny. I was thinking about reaching out to

2056
01:37:00,720 --> 01:37:03,759
Speaker 2: Justin already to be like, yo, one of these regular episodes,

2057
01:37:03,800 --> 01:37:06,160
Speaker 2: you need to come back because people that aren't behind

2058
01:37:06,200 --> 01:37:08,920
Speaker 2: the paywall, they don't get enough for Justin and you know,

2059
01:37:10,040 --> 01:37:13,240
Speaker 2: and we've been able to kind of have people on lately,

2060
01:37:14,720 --> 01:37:17,439
Speaker 2: you know, more and more guests because everyone's at.

2061
01:37:17,360 --> 01:37:19,719
Speaker 5: Home, you know, we see Justin, we communicay.

2062
01:37:19,840 --> 01:37:21,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, so sometimes I forget that there's a lot of

2063
01:37:21,720 --> 01:37:24,000
Speaker 2: people that you know, don't get the kicking with Justin

2064
01:37:24,040 --> 01:37:26,160
Speaker 2: and stuff, and I think, you know, if you can

2065
01:37:26,280 --> 01:37:28,360
Speaker 2: afford it, like it's probably best to hear him on

2066
01:37:28,520 --> 01:37:32,920
Speaker 2: the premium side because you know, it's just us doing

2067
01:37:32,960 --> 01:37:35,559
Speaker 2: our thing having fun back there. But yeah, I'll definitely

2068
01:37:35,600 --> 01:37:37,040
Speaker 2: bring them back for the regular show.

2069
01:37:37,520 --> 01:37:42,080
Speaker 1: Tomorrow. We have Corey and Burning from Living Color to

2070
01:37:42,160 --> 01:37:42,800
Speaker 1: be on the show.

2071
01:37:43,040 --> 01:37:46,719
Speaker 2: You know, they're they're big fans, and that's that's gonna

2072
01:37:46,760 --> 01:37:51,960
Speaker 2: be dope. And then the second thing was eight forty six.

2073
01:37:52,840 --> 01:37:56,760
Speaker 2: So the main thing I took from eight forty six

2074
01:37:56,880 --> 01:38:00,960
Speaker 2: is that it's more of a sermon than a comedy special.

2075
01:38:01,120 --> 01:38:05,040
Speaker 2: It's not funny on purpose, there's some jokes to relieve

2076
01:38:05,120 --> 01:38:08,519
Speaker 2: the tension, but they're not jokes. They're not like bits

2077
01:38:08,600 --> 01:38:10,680
Speaker 2: that he wrote and fleshed out. I'm not sure he

2078
01:38:10,760 --> 01:38:13,200
Speaker 2: wrote and fleshed out most of it. I think he

2079
01:38:13,280 --> 01:38:14,960
Speaker 2: had a through line in his head or what he

2080
01:38:15,000 --> 01:38:16,960
Speaker 2: wanted to talk about, and I think he accomplished that.

2081
01:38:17,080 --> 01:38:20,240
Speaker 2: I think Dave Chappelle is one of the most foremost

2082
01:38:20,479 --> 01:38:25,600
Speaker 2: thoughtful comedians and people when it comes to race in

2083
01:38:25,720 --> 01:38:30,040
Speaker 2: America period. And to see him kind of get to

2084
01:38:30,160 --> 01:38:33,439
Speaker 2: do his thing for thirty so minutes on strictly just

2085
01:38:33,560 --> 01:38:36,760
Speaker 2: the race, I thought it was brilliant. I thought it

2086
01:38:36,920 --> 01:38:40,599
Speaker 2: was excellent. I thought it was catharsist for a lot

2087
01:38:40,640 --> 01:38:43,960
Speaker 2: of black people. We've been feeling that and you just

2088
01:38:44,080 --> 01:38:46,320
Speaker 2: kind of wish somebody could make sense of it or

2089
01:38:46,439 --> 01:38:49,439
Speaker 2: tell the world this is how we feel right now.

2090
01:38:50,600 --> 01:38:52,840
Speaker 2: I thought he made some great points about you know,

2091
01:38:53,000 --> 01:38:56,800
Speaker 2: he's not going to it's ironic because he's giving his

2092
01:38:56,960 --> 01:38:59,280
Speaker 2: point of view in a stand up special, but he's

2093
01:38:59,320 --> 01:39:02,400
Speaker 2: basically saying, my point of view shouldn't trump the view

2094
01:39:02,600 --> 01:39:05,720
Speaker 2: of what's happening in the streets. Listen to what the

2095
01:39:05,760 --> 01:39:07,880
Speaker 2: people are saying in the streets. Don't listen to me.

2096
01:39:08,560 --> 01:39:10,880
Speaker 2: I'm happy to be in the backseat and let the

2097
01:39:10,960 --> 01:39:14,440
Speaker 2: kids dride a car. They're the ones making the discussion

2098
01:39:14,520 --> 01:39:17,280
Speaker 2: right now, you know. And he talked about how racist

2099
01:39:17,400 --> 01:39:21,920
Speaker 2: touched him. The officer who shot the guy Walmart that

2100
01:39:22,000 --> 01:39:25,320
Speaker 2: had the toy gun had pulled him over the day before.

2101
01:39:26,479 --> 01:39:28,479
Speaker 2: You know, that's how small their town is, and he

2102
01:39:28,520 --> 01:39:31,080
Speaker 2: said that almost broke the town apart, you know. And

2103
01:39:31,200 --> 01:39:35,400
Speaker 2: I think with Chappelle, he's very much you know, we

2104
01:39:35,520 --> 01:39:37,760
Speaker 2: can all get a long type of person, you know,

2105
01:39:39,479 --> 01:39:44,200
Speaker 2: And he's expressed that when Trump won, you know, I

2106
01:39:44,320 --> 01:39:46,519
Speaker 2: think he you know, I think he does have a

2107
01:39:46,560 --> 01:39:50,400
Speaker 2: fundamental belief or at least seems to of, but we

2108
01:39:50,520 --> 01:39:52,960
Speaker 2: can still kind of figure this out. And in this

2109
01:39:53,040 --> 01:39:55,000
Speaker 2: specially sound like he had put that down and said,

2110
01:39:55,120 --> 01:39:58,080
Speaker 2: maybe we can't really figure this out, or it's not

2111
01:39:58,240 --> 01:40:00,240
Speaker 2: up that someone will else will have to figure this out,

2112
01:40:00,320 --> 01:40:04,280
Speaker 2: because you know, I'm just frustrated right now all that stuff.

2113
01:40:05,920 --> 01:40:09,559
Speaker 1: So I thought that was I thought it was good

2114
01:40:09,720 --> 01:40:11,719
Speaker 1: that being said. Y'all know how my brain works.

2115
01:40:11,800 --> 01:40:14,839
Speaker 2: As I watched it, I was like, here's where everyone's

2116
01:40:14,880 --> 01:40:17,560
Speaker 2: gonna be upset with him, and here's where you know,

2117
01:40:17,600 --> 01:40:19,120
Speaker 2: because you got to keep in mind he said some

2118
01:40:19,320 --> 01:40:22,639
Speaker 2: very transphobic jokes and ship over the years, so there's

2119
01:40:22,640 --> 01:40:25,000
Speaker 2: a lot of people coming into it with the orange folded,

2120
01:40:25,200 --> 01:40:28,479
Speaker 2: looking for the angle to kind of hate it and

2121
01:40:28,720 --> 01:40:30,920
Speaker 2: to tell us why he should shut the fuck up

2122
01:40:31,040 --> 01:40:33,920
Speaker 2: or whatever, which is interesting because it's at a time

2123
01:40:33,920 --> 01:40:36,519
Speaker 2: where he's saying like, literally, hey, I should shut the

2124
01:40:36,560 --> 01:40:38,679
Speaker 2: fuck up when it comes to this, I'm not important.

2125
01:40:39,360 --> 01:40:45,240
Speaker 2: But what I thought was interesting was he didn't mention

2126
01:40:45,640 --> 01:40:48,360
Speaker 2: any black women or trans people when he talked about

2127
01:40:48,400 --> 01:40:49,559
Speaker 2: people being killed by the cops.

2128
01:40:50,040 --> 01:40:52,240
Speaker 1: Now, Dave Chappelle's not on Twitter.

2129
01:40:53,320 --> 01:40:56,360
Speaker 2: So Twitter is the main place I see that fight

2130
01:40:57,240 --> 01:41:00,800
Speaker 2: of if you bring up George Floyd but you're not

2131
01:41:00,880 --> 01:41:03,639
Speaker 2: bringing up Breonna Taylor, that says you don't care about

2132
01:41:03,680 --> 01:41:06,519
Speaker 2: black women, and that may be the reality for Twitter.

2133
01:41:06,680 --> 01:41:09,400
Speaker 2: I don't know that that fight has made it offline

2134
01:41:09,600 --> 01:41:12,720
Speaker 2: in a way that has you know, and it may though,

2135
01:41:12,920 --> 01:41:15,040
Speaker 2: but it has. I don't think it has yet in

2136
01:41:15,120 --> 01:41:17,360
Speaker 2: a way that it ap pierces the average person. I

2137
01:41:17,439 --> 01:41:21,240
Speaker 2: think the average person still thinks of murders from the

2138
01:41:21,280 --> 01:41:24,120
Speaker 2: cops is a thing that happens to black men and

2139
01:41:24,280 --> 01:41:28,840
Speaker 2: not really anyone else that's obviously not fair, that's not

2140
01:41:29,080 --> 01:41:32,439
Speaker 2: right that that, you know, and it's done this thing

2141
01:41:33,040 --> 01:41:34,599
Speaker 2: and I guess we can talk about it since we're

2142
01:41:34,600 --> 01:41:36,480
Speaker 2: on the podcast and I can say it in context,

2143
01:41:37,120 --> 01:41:40,920
Speaker 2: but it's done this thing that's really cynically fucked fucked

2144
01:41:41,000 --> 01:41:43,840
Speaker 2: us all up. You know, the gender wars between black

2145
01:41:43,920 --> 01:41:46,200
Speaker 2: men and women, and of course you know when you

2146
01:41:46,280 --> 01:41:51,320
Speaker 2: bring in like trans people and their experiences, it's done

2147
01:41:51,360 --> 01:41:54,879
Speaker 2: this thing where it's almost like people are making teams

2148
01:41:55,040 --> 01:41:59,240
Speaker 2: and sides, and it's like a weird version of the

2149
01:42:01,240 --> 01:42:06,040
Speaker 2: of a stock market or something almost where you invest

2150
01:42:06,400 --> 01:42:09,560
Speaker 2: in certain people's deaths. This is so morbid to me,

2151
01:42:10,000 --> 01:42:12,000
Speaker 2: and it's why I don't want to participate in it

2152
01:42:12,200 --> 01:42:15,720
Speaker 2: in that type of way where I'm going, because they're

2153
01:42:15,760 --> 01:42:18,400
Speaker 2: all victims well not just that, but they're all victims

2154
01:42:18,400 --> 01:42:20,439
Speaker 2: of police killing us.

2155
01:42:21,280 --> 01:42:23,559
Speaker 1: So to me, it's us.

2156
01:42:23,920 --> 01:42:27,880
Speaker 2: It's black people, period. There's not a favorite or least

2157
01:42:27,960 --> 01:42:31,400
Speaker 2: favorite within that. I understand, that's privileges within that, there's

2158
01:42:31,479 --> 01:42:34,360
Speaker 2: hierarchy in that. But I you know, I remember a

2159
01:42:34,479 --> 01:42:37,680
Speaker 2: long time ago we were talking about Auton Sterling. I

2160
01:42:37,800 --> 01:42:40,200
Speaker 2: believe he was killed and people brought someone brought up

2161
01:42:40,240 --> 01:42:44,679
Speaker 2: how he was convicted of sexual assault of a minor

2162
01:42:44,760 --> 01:42:48,640
Speaker 2: or something at one point, and I'm like, I can

2163
01:42:48,720 --> 01:42:51,000
Speaker 2: hold both of those things at the same time that

2164
01:42:51,840 --> 01:42:54,560
Speaker 2: that's terrible and he should not have done that, and

2165
01:42:54,680 --> 01:42:57,360
Speaker 2: that's you know, maybe I would never want to be

2166
01:42:57,439 --> 01:42:59,360
Speaker 2: around an auten Sterlein in my life, But at the

2167
01:42:59,479 --> 01:43:02,800
Speaker 2: same time, I have to hold that the cops killed

2168
01:43:02,840 --> 01:43:08,240
Speaker 2: that man in cold blood, right right right, And I

2169
01:43:08,360 --> 01:43:11,800
Speaker 2: think that's what a lot of people lose, that shit

2170
01:43:11,840 --> 01:43:13,920
Speaker 2: when they go on social media and fight about it

2171
01:43:13,960 --> 01:43:18,280
Speaker 2: all day, where they really are like, if you can't

2172
01:43:18,760 --> 01:43:22,280
Speaker 2: spout off the names of certain people, then you don't

2173
01:43:22,400 --> 01:43:23,840
Speaker 2: care that the cops killed them.

2174
01:43:24,400 --> 01:43:28,160
Speaker 1: And I think that's a horrible, horrible.

2175
01:43:29,280 --> 01:43:32,720
Speaker 2: Assumption. I think that's a horrible assumption. And one of

2176
01:43:32,760 --> 01:43:34,439
Speaker 2: the reason I think it is horrible is because it's

2177
01:43:34,600 --> 01:43:39,040
Speaker 2: so easy to perpetrate. So now you really do have

2178
01:43:39,120 --> 01:43:41,479
Speaker 2: people substituting, then they don't actually give a fuck.

2179
01:43:41,560 --> 01:43:44,040
Speaker 1: But I learned three names.

2180
01:43:43,720 --> 01:43:44,880
Speaker 2: And now I can spout them off the top of

2181
01:43:44,920 --> 01:43:46,680
Speaker 2: my head, so that means I give a fuck. But

2182
01:43:46,800 --> 01:43:49,559
Speaker 2: that doesn't really mean you give a fuck just because

2183
01:43:49,600 --> 01:43:52,320
Speaker 2: you know Rakeisha Boy, just because you know Sondra Bland

2184
01:43:52,840 --> 01:43:57,799
Speaker 2: you know, just because you know Brionna Taylor, that doesn't

2185
01:43:57,880 --> 01:44:00,599
Speaker 2: necessarily mean like because I care so much about black

2186
01:44:00,640 --> 01:44:02,320
Speaker 2: women and blah blah blah.

2187
01:44:02,479 --> 01:44:02,640
Speaker 1: You know.

2188
01:44:02,880 --> 01:44:06,680
Speaker 2: So it's very and I think the whole thing has

2189
01:44:06,760 --> 01:44:10,320
Speaker 2: become so performative. I think even saying people's names is

2190
01:44:10,360 --> 01:44:13,720
Speaker 2: hashtags and shit like that has become very performative. It's

2191
01:44:13,800 --> 01:44:16,720
Speaker 2: as performative as these companies saying black lives matter, and

2192
01:44:16,840 --> 01:44:19,160
Speaker 2: you know they don't actually give a fuck, you know.

2193
01:44:19,520 --> 01:44:23,759
Speaker 2: So it's just a this is a complicated, ugly feeling

2194
01:44:23,920 --> 01:44:26,679
Speaker 2: that I have when it comes to these you didn't

2195
01:44:26,720 --> 01:44:29,120
Speaker 2: say this person, or you did say that person, and

2196
01:44:29,560 --> 01:44:31,519
Speaker 2: or you picked this type of victim, you know. And

2197
01:44:31,600 --> 01:44:34,640
Speaker 2: I think we start aligning behind them in a in

2198
01:44:34,720 --> 01:44:37,640
Speaker 2: a way that's like their celebrities or something, you know

2199
01:44:37,680 --> 01:44:41,080
Speaker 2: what I mean, Like, Oh, I'm riding with Tony McDade,

2200
01:44:41,320 --> 01:44:43,080
Speaker 2: Like like this is the Tony McDade.

2201
01:44:43,120 --> 01:44:43,519
Speaker 7: How and not?

2202
01:44:43,680 --> 01:44:46,519
Speaker 1: I keep thinking, is they fucking killed this person?

2203
01:44:46,640 --> 01:44:49,120
Speaker 2: This is not a thing for us to identify around

2204
01:44:49,600 --> 01:44:52,320
Speaker 2: and fight out with each other, like it's Beyonce versus Rihanna,

2205
01:44:52,520 --> 01:44:55,600
Speaker 2: Like this is this is all fucked up, you know

2206
01:44:55,600 --> 01:45:00,680
Speaker 2: what I mean? Like so being like, I'm riding for

2207
01:45:00,800 --> 01:45:03,720
Speaker 2: this team. When you're like looking at the goat fund

2208
01:45:03,800 --> 01:45:06,559
Speaker 2: me amounts and measuring them to each other, this is.

2209
01:45:06,760 --> 01:45:09,840
Speaker 1: Death, you know what I mean? This is death.

2210
01:45:10,160 --> 01:45:12,439
Speaker 2: No money's not gonna bring them back, and no amount

2211
01:45:12,479 --> 01:45:15,800
Speaker 2: of money. And if if Breonna Taylor's go fund me

2212
01:45:15,920 --> 01:45:18,000
Speaker 2: beat George Floyd, what does it mean? It doesn't mean

2213
01:45:18,080 --> 01:45:19,280
Speaker 2: shit for any of.

2214
01:45:19,360 --> 01:45:23,040
Speaker 1: Us, you know, like like like it's it's it's all

2215
01:45:23,240 --> 01:45:25,280
Speaker 1: bad shit, you know.

2216
01:45:25,560 --> 01:45:28,080
Speaker 2: So I've been trying to avoid it, but I knew

2217
01:45:28,120 --> 01:45:29,920
Speaker 2: when I watched that that that would be people.

2218
01:45:30,360 --> 01:45:31,599
Speaker 1: He didn't say Breonna Taylor.

2219
01:45:31,600 --> 01:45:34,519
Speaker 2: I'm like, it don't matter if he would have said

2220
01:45:34,640 --> 01:45:36,840
Speaker 2: Tony mcday alould say well that's a trans person. Why

2221
01:45:36,880 --> 01:45:39,200
Speaker 2: would he even say that name? You know, like, you

2222
01:45:39,320 --> 01:45:40,960
Speaker 2: don't fuck with him and you don't like him, and

2223
01:45:41,000 --> 01:45:43,760
Speaker 2: you're gonna nitpicking ship and that's fine, and you have

2224
01:45:43,960 --> 01:45:46,360
Speaker 2: you have the right to do that, but it doesn't

2225
01:45:46,400 --> 01:45:48,920
Speaker 2: make but you know, and then the other thing too

2226
01:45:49,280 --> 01:45:54,559
Speaker 2: is there's really not any more a space for people

2227
01:45:54,720 --> 01:46:00,719
Speaker 2: to evolve and be educated amongst people like them, because

2228
01:46:00,760 --> 01:46:03,400
Speaker 2: we're all sharing everything on the internet, you know, And

2229
01:46:03,560 --> 01:46:07,240
Speaker 2: so if you're gonna understand that white people are fucked up,

2230
01:46:07,360 --> 01:46:09,280
Speaker 2: men are fucked up. Straight people are fucked up all

2231
01:46:09,320 --> 01:46:11,680
Speaker 2: this shit, there's gonna be some learning and education and

2232
01:46:11,800 --> 01:46:14,479
Speaker 2: unlearning they're gonna need to go through, right, And where

2233
01:46:14,520 --> 01:46:16,879
Speaker 2: a lot of this stuff happens is in front of everybody,

2234
01:46:16,960 --> 01:46:19,240
Speaker 2: and it's everyone nitpicking every single step of it.

2235
01:46:19,360 --> 01:46:19,519
Speaker 5: Right.

2236
01:46:20,240 --> 01:46:24,840
Speaker 2: So, I think Dave Chappelle comes from a time and

2237
01:46:24,920 --> 01:46:30,160
Speaker 2: a place and a mentality of black men is like,

2238
01:46:30,280 --> 01:46:33,200
Speaker 2: that's what he cares about black men. That doesn't mean

2239
01:46:33,280 --> 01:46:36,080
Speaker 2: he cares about no one else, but he's like, I

2240
01:46:36,200 --> 01:46:39,080
Speaker 2: have a black, straight male perspective and that's the only

2241
01:46:39,160 --> 01:46:44,519
Speaker 2: one I'm interested in advocating for. And he may feel

2242
01:46:44,600 --> 01:46:47,200
Speaker 2: empathy for certain people's and now identities and shit, but

2243
01:46:47,280 --> 01:46:51,559
Speaker 2: he ain't never gonna say that their oppression is worse

2244
01:46:51,640 --> 01:46:54,360
Speaker 2: than his, and he's never gonna and he sees everything

2245
01:46:54,400 --> 01:46:57,200
Speaker 2: through the lens of his personal oppression and his group's

2246
01:46:57,240 --> 01:47:01,280
Speaker 2: oppression black men. Right, So like most people do, right,

2247
01:47:01,520 --> 01:47:04,760
Speaker 2: I think he's at this point we now have what

2248
01:47:05,120 --> 01:47:07,840
Speaker 2: ten twenty years of him doing that. We don't have

2249
01:47:08,000 --> 01:47:11,639
Speaker 2: any fucking reason to say this time on the nineteen

2250
01:47:11,680 --> 01:47:16,080
Speaker 2: Stand Up Special, he's gonna advocate for trans people. He's

2251
01:47:16,160 --> 01:47:17,960
Speaker 2: gonna only be able to advocate for them in the

2252
01:47:18,000 --> 01:47:20,120
Speaker 2: ways that he feels race relates to them.

2253
01:47:20,320 --> 01:47:20,719
Speaker 1: Period.

2254
01:47:21,200 --> 01:47:23,080
Speaker 2: So if he sees trans in his mind as a

2255
01:47:23,200 --> 01:47:26,200
Speaker 2: white privileged thing, he will never cross that fucking line

2256
01:47:26,240 --> 01:47:28,680
Speaker 2: in his mind to be like, well, maybe it's not that,

2257
01:47:29,320 --> 01:47:32,120
Speaker 2: you know, Like, he's gonna always see it as that.

2258
01:47:32,280 --> 01:47:34,280
Speaker 2: That's the reason this is in the news, because white

2259
01:47:34,360 --> 01:47:36,320
Speaker 2: men want to be women. He's gonna always do that.

2260
01:47:38,040 --> 01:47:40,120
Speaker 2: The problem for him is that so many people liked

2261
01:47:40,200 --> 01:47:42,639
Speaker 2: what he does. They know he's talented, they want him,

2262
01:47:42,720 --> 01:47:44,880
Speaker 2: and he is capable of it. They would love for

2263
01:47:44,960 --> 01:47:47,439
Speaker 2: him to advocate for them. Yes, I still feel like

2264
01:47:47,479 --> 01:47:49,679
Speaker 2: that alphabet Mafia bit he did a couple of years

2265
01:47:49,680 --> 01:47:53,479
Speaker 2: ago or last year was brilliant, like summed up so

2266
01:47:53,600 --> 01:47:57,000
Speaker 2: many issues within the LGBTQ community where he's not even

2267
01:47:57,040 --> 01:47:59,639
Speaker 2: part of his community, and he's able to be like, hey, y'all,

2268
01:47:59,680 --> 01:48:02,479
Speaker 2: don't try treat everyone in the community the same, y'all.

2269
01:48:02,560 --> 01:48:04,920
Speaker 2: You know, y'all don't really respect the trans people in

2270
01:48:05,040 --> 01:48:07,960
Speaker 2: your community. Y'all really, you know, y'all, don't treat the

2271
01:48:08,439 --> 01:48:10,640
Speaker 2: bad people in the community. It's basically the gays and

2272
01:48:10,680 --> 01:48:13,040
Speaker 2: the lesbians up front and the kids in the back

2273
01:48:13,120 --> 01:48:15,320
Speaker 2: and the trans people outside the car, just trying.

2274
01:48:15,120 --> 01:48:16,760
Speaker 1: To get the blah blah blah blah. Great, it's a

2275
01:48:16,800 --> 01:48:17,160
Speaker 1: great bit.

2276
01:48:17,400 --> 01:48:19,560
Speaker 2: I'm not doing it justice, but the fact that it

2277
01:48:19,640 --> 01:48:24,040
Speaker 2: came from him is at once surprising, but also it

2278
01:48:24,080 --> 01:48:27,120
Speaker 2: has to be fucking frustrating because it's like, so you

2279
01:48:27,280 --> 01:48:29,720
Speaker 2: can understand on some level, you.

2280
01:48:30,160 --> 01:48:33,000
Speaker 1: See these things, but then you refuse to take it

2281
01:48:33,080 --> 01:48:33,960
Speaker 1: to the next level.

2282
01:48:34,560 --> 01:48:38,439
Speaker 2: And because of his own dogma, he believes that, you know,

2283
01:48:38,600 --> 01:48:41,360
Speaker 2: he's I'm some type of joke samurai. You know, it's

2284
01:48:41,400 --> 01:48:44,240
Speaker 2: all about the joke, you know, But that's not true.

2285
01:48:44,880 --> 01:48:47,800
Speaker 2: He did this whole special without making any jokes. It's

2286
01:48:47,840 --> 01:48:49,040
Speaker 2: barely any jokes in this shit.

2287
01:48:50,000 --> 01:48:50,160
Speaker 1: You know.

2288
01:48:50,720 --> 01:48:54,439
Speaker 2: So, like you can be serious when you think the

2289
01:48:54,520 --> 01:48:57,960
Speaker 2: time is right for seriousness. You just don't think issues

2290
01:48:58,080 --> 01:49:02,120
Speaker 2: of gender sexualities. You don't think that's serious. You think

2291
01:49:02,160 --> 01:49:05,120
Speaker 2: that's jokes for in your opinion. Now that maybe because

2292
01:49:05,120 --> 01:49:07,560
Speaker 2: you haven't lived that life whatever, but that's jokes. But

2293
01:49:07,680 --> 01:49:10,320
Speaker 2: watching George Floyd get a knee put on him made

2294
01:49:10,360 --> 01:49:14,360
Speaker 2: you give us twenty seven minutes of hardcore commentary with

2295
01:49:14,479 --> 01:49:19,200
Speaker 2: a couple Jukes sprinkled in, and I think that that's

2296
01:49:19,240 --> 01:49:21,680
Speaker 2: who he always is gonna be. That's probably who he

2297
01:49:21,760 --> 01:49:24,240
Speaker 2: always is, and maybe he'll prove me wrong and change,

2298
01:49:24,280 --> 01:49:26,280
Speaker 2: but I can't see him coming around.

2299
01:49:26,479 --> 01:49:26,639
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2300
01:49:27,040 --> 01:49:29,240
Speaker 4: I a lot for people to change, Like, you know,

2301
01:49:29,560 --> 01:49:31,880
Speaker 4: I give them the opportunity. You can always change until

2302
01:49:31,880 --> 01:49:32,559
Speaker 4: you leave this earth.

2303
01:49:32,640 --> 01:49:35,240
Speaker 1: You always have to. Yeah, you're right, but I think

2304
01:49:35,320 --> 01:49:40,120
Speaker 1: at some point I be a fool to keep expecting it.

2305
01:49:40,280 --> 01:49:40,439
Speaker 8: Yeah.

2306
01:49:40,520 --> 01:49:42,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, Now now it's something out like how I have

2307
01:49:42,240 --> 01:49:44,720
Speaker 4: to see for myself. Yeah, but you know, if you

2308
01:49:44,880 --> 01:49:47,560
Speaker 4: are willing to take that step is up to you.

2309
01:49:47,680 --> 01:49:50,160
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna push or force you to. It's completely

2310
01:49:50,240 --> 01:49:50,519
Speaker 4: up to you.

2311
01:49:50,720 --> 01:49:53,120
Speaker 2: You want him on your side because he's like the Hulk,

2312
01:49:53,240 --> 01:49:57,000
Speaker 2: He's like Superman. People will listen to him. Hopefully he

2313
01:49:57,160 --> 01:49:59,479
Speaker 2: will make the joke and change the culture to want

2314
01:49:59,520 --> 01:50:03,000
Speaker 2: of accept you know, that's what you're hoping for, And

2315
01:50:03,160 --> 01:50:06,559
Speaker 2: he won't do it because he knows that. He refuses

2316
01:50:06,600 --> 01:50:09,360
Speaker 2: to accept that mantle of responsibility on what he does.

2317
01:50:09,439 --> 01:50:12,400
Speaker 2: It's like, why I'm just the dick joke part joke guy,

2318
01:50:12,880 --> 01:50:15,280
Speaker 2: leave me alone. But he has some iconic bits that

2319
01:50:16,240 --> 01:50:19,200
Speaker 2: when when George Floyd died. People were playing the clip

2320
01:50:19,280 --> 01:50:22,080
Speaker 2: from Killing Killing Them Softly, sprinkle some crack on this

2321
01:50:22,160 --> 01:50:26,880
Speaker 2: nigga that so so he does things that resonate forever,

2322
01:50:27,920 --> 01:50:28,120
Speaker 2: you know.

2323
01:50:28,520 --> 01:50:31,479
Speaker 1: So it's frustrating. He's a frustrating guy for a lot

2324
01:50:31,560 --> 01:50:32,320
Speaker 1: of woke people.

2325
01:50:33,040 --> 01:50:36,080
Speaker 2: You know, they want him to do what he did yesterday,

2326
01:50:36,200 --> 01:50:42,080
Speaker 2: but you know, sprinkle, sprinkle some other marginalized identities on it,

2327
01:50:42,200 --> 01:50:43,800
Speaker 2: and then they would be cool with it. You know,

2328
01:50:44,600 --> 01:50:46,519
Speaker 2: and to a certain extent, some of them are invested

2329
01:50:46,560 --> 01:50:49,599
Speaker 2: in not liking him. But for people that aren't invested,

2330
01:50:50,000 --> 01:50:51,880
Speaker 2: who really, you know, I think the same thing of

2331
01:50:52,000 --> 01:50:55,720
Speaker 2: JK Rolling. JK Rollan is transphobic. She's never gonna not

2332
01:50:55,800 --> 01:50:58,400
Speaker 2: be transphobic. In my opinion, I can't be cause too

2333
01:50:58,479 --> 01:51:01,560
Speaker 2: many people have made the argument like what is he

2334
01:51:01,680 --> 01:51:03,479
Speaker 2: think that's something Dave Jepelle hadn't heard. You think that's

2335
01:51:03,479 --> 01:51:05,320
Speaker 2: something JK Rowling had heard. They just need to hear

2336
01:51:05,320 --> 01:51:07,040
Speaker 2: it the right way. This is who they are, this

2337
01:51:07,120 --> 01:51:07,800
Speaker 2: is what they believe.

2338
01:51:08,360 --> 01:51:10,559
Speaker 1: They won't come but so far to your side, right,

2339
01:51:11,439 --> 01:51:12,320
Speaker 1: But with like a JK.

2340
01:51:12,560 --> 01:51:15,200
Speaker 2: Rowling, I think a lot of those people are frustrated

2341
01:51:15,760 --> 01:51:18,960
Speaker 2: because they invested in her. They invested in her Harry

2342
01:51:19,000 --> 01:51:22,320
Speaker 2: Potter stuff. They made an identity of this. They got

2343
01:51:22,600 --> 01:51:26,320
Speaker 2: fucking the slithering tattoos, and you know they started all

2344
01:51:26,360 --> 01:51:29,720
Speaker 2: these like podcasts and groups and watching the.

2345
01:51:29,760 --> 01:51:32,840
Speaker 5: World going to these places that a Harry Pottering.

2346
01:51:33,080 --> 01:51:35,920
Speaker 1: Yes, so when you invest in somebody, you want an

2347
01:51:36,000 --> 01:51:38,320
Speaker 1: investment back. But that's the thing.

2348
01:51:38,520 --> 01:51:40,840
Speaker 2: That's one of the reasons I'm so glad I just

2349
01:51:41,280 --> 01:51:44,880
Speaker 2: never put the celebrities on this type of feeling like

2350
01:51:44,920 --> 01:51:48,640
Speaker 2: it's a relationship because they literally don't know me, they

2351
01:51:48,680 --> 01:51:51,280
Speaker 2: don't owe me shit. There's no promise of them to

2352
01:51:51,320 --> 01:51:53,840
Speaker 2: be a good person. There's no promise that because they

2353
01:51:53,920 --> 01:51:56,160
Speaker 2: have a lot of my money that they have to

2354
01:51:56,240 --> 01:51:59,000
Speaker 2: care about my life. But a lot of people can't

2355
01:51:59,080 --> 01:52:02,280
Speaker 2: shake that. They fund mentally believe if I give you

2356
01:52:02,720 --> 01:52:05,120
Speaker 2: money and time or whatever, you're supposed to care about me.

2357
01:52:05,760 --> 01:52:09,000
Speaker 2: And whether maybe that's our entitlement, maybe that's some other

2358
01:52:09,080 --> 01:52:12,080
Speaker 2: things we need to figure out, But that's what happens

2359
01:52:12,280 --> 01:52:15,360
Speaker 2: with these people like Chappelle, A jk.

2360
01:52:15,560 --> 01:52:15,960
Speaker 1: Rowland.

2361
01:52:16,240 --> 01:52:18,920
Speaker 2: We're upset they're not reflecting us back at us, but

2362
01:52:19,040 --> 01:52:21,320
Speaker 2: they were never that. They were always a flashlight. They

2363
01:52:21,360 --> 01:52:25,519
Speaker 2: were reflecting themselves at us, right and we and we

2364
01:52:25,680 --> 01:52:27,840
Speaker 2: looked for ourselves and what they were putting out. But

2365
01:52:27,920 --> 01:52:30,880
Speaker 2: they they're not actually taking in us and then going

2366
01:52:31,200 --> 01:52:33,320
Speaker 2: let me, let me regurgitate your opinions back to you.

2367
01:52:33,400 --> 01:52:37,559
Speaker 1: They're not doing that, you know. So for me personally, man, I.

2368
01:52:39,120 --> 01:52:40,519
Speaker 2: I've been you know, I feel like I say this

2369
01:52:40,640 --> 01:52:43,000
Speaker 2: every special he does and a bunch of other shit

2370
01:52:43,040 --> 01:52:45,960
Speaker 2: I listened to. But I've long been able to be like,

2371
01:52:46,800 --> 01:52:50,360
Speaker 2: I don't feel any moral obligation or attachment to somebody's art,

2372
01:52:51,240 --> 01:52:55,080
Speaker 2: so I can find it good while also going, yeah,

2373
01:52:55,120 --> 01:52:59,320
Speaker 2: it's fucked up, I can find it terrible while saying

2374
01:52:59,400 --> 01:53:01,519
Speaker 2: oh yeah, this is I actually agree with everything Bill

2375
01:53:01,600 --> 01:53:03,280
Speaker 2: Maher is saying right now in the stand up special.

2376
01:53:03,680 --> 01:53:06,000
Speaker 1: I think his ship is whack. It's not funny to me,

2377
01:53:06,800 --> 01:53:07,400
Speaker 1: you know what I mean.

2378
01:53:07,640 --> 01:53:10,880
Speaker 2: Like, and that's not a that's not about not liking

2379
01:53:10,920 --> 01:53:15,040
Speaker 2: Bill Maher either, just literally the motherfucker says for hour

2380
01:53:15,080 --> 01:53:17,080
Speaker 2: and ten minutes everything I agree with.

2381
01:53:17,320 --> 01:53:19,080
Speaker 1: I'm like, yep, that is how they be.

2382
01:53:19,600 --> 01:53:22,600
Speaker 2: And I can't laugh because it ain't funny, right, And

2383
01:53:22,680 --> 01:53:24,360
Speaker 2: then I have somebody else sit up there and make

2384
01:53:24,400 --> 01:53:25,040
Speaker 2: a bunch say.

2385
01:53:24,960 --> 01:53:29,080
Speaker 1: A bunch of shit, what's that motherfucker's name not PATRISA. Neil.

2386
01:53:29,200 --> 01:53:31,320
Speaker 1: I can't remember his name. God, he's on black.

2387
01:53:31,200 --> 01:53:34,519
Speaker 5: Jesus Ah, that nigga.

2388
01:53:34,800 --> 01:53:40,479
Speaker 2: Yes, he makes horrible, misogynistic, terrible jokes, and he's funny.

2389
01:53:40,520 --> 01:53:41,080
Speaker 1: A shit to me.

2390
01:53:43,320 --> 01:53:46,360
Speaker 2: Robin Harris, Yes, a bunch of shit. I don't agree

2391
01:53:46,400 --> 01:53:51,040
Speaker 2: with cried teared. I asthma, tack laughter, you know. So

2392
01:53:51,280 --> 01:53:53,680
Speaker 2: it's just I don't know if I'm one of the

2393
01:53:53,840 --> 01:53:55,720
Speaker 2: only people like that, if I'm one of the only

2394
01:53:55,760 --> 01:53:56,879
Speaker 2: people that just fucking.

2395
01:53:56,680 --> 01:53:59,960
Speaker 5: Admit it, right right, you'll admit it.

2396
01:54:00,400 --> 01:54:02,760
Speaker 2: I don't know which it is either way, Like I

2397
01:54:03,200 --> 01:54:06,880
Speaker 2: don't leave those I don't leave those situations and.

2398
01:54:06,920 --> 01:54:11,280
Speaker 1: Feel like, oh my god, I've sinned, or you know,

2399
01:54:11,400 --> 01:54:12,880
Speaker 1: I need to justify this.

2400
01:54:13,280 --> 01:54:13,320
Speaker 4: No.

2401
01:54:13,479 --> 01:54:17,000
Speaker 2: I thought the Chappelle Special was really poignant, really good,

2402
01:54:17,280 --> 01:54:20,600
Speaker 2: not very funny, and every problem that people say they

2403
01:54:20,680 --> 01:54:23,800
Speaker 2: have with it, yeah, they those problems exist. In the

2404
01:54:23,880 --> 01:54:28,000
Speaker 2: works is a misogynistic as any of his other work.

2405
01:54:28,080 --> 01:54:28,400
Speaker 1: It's just.

2406
01:54:30,120 --> 01:54:32,400
Speaker 2: This one is not necessarily transferward. But I heard that

2407
01:54:32,520 --> 01:54:36,440
Speaker 2: he made jokes about don limits sexuality, but it was

2408
01:54:36,520 --> 01:54:38,520
Speaker 2: taken out or he took it out or edited out,

2409
01:54:38,920 --> 01:54:41,160
Speaker 2: to which in a way I'm like, I mean, y'all

2410
01:54:41,160 --> 01:54:42,920
Speaker 2: should take that one as a win. I don't even

2411
01:54:42,960 --> 01:54:44,480
Speaker 2: know why they would take that as a because I

2412
01:54:44,480 --> 01:54:48,320
Speaker 2: saw Sarah Spain being like, yes, uh, you know, he

2413
01:54:48,400 --> 01:54:49,960
Speaker 2: still can't get over this. So I'm like, well, if

2414
01:54:49,960 --> 01:54:51,880
Speaker 2: he didn't put it in a special then maybe y'all

2415
01:54:51,960 --> 01:54:55,200
Speaker 2: one like, maybe you got him to shut the fuck

2416
01:54:55,240 --> 01:54:56,480
Speaker 2: up about something for once.

2417
01:54:57,120 --> 01:54:57,640
Speaker 1: Take the win.

2418
01:54:58,640 --> 01:55:00,480
Speaker 2: You know, sure it would be better if he never

2419
01:55:00,560 --> 01:55:02,240
Speaker 2: said it at all, and you but you didn't see

2420
01:55:02,240 --> 01:55:05,360
Speaker 2: it wasn't any special. Maybe someone got to him and said,

2421
01:55:05,640 --> 01:55:07,440
Speaker 2: is this really gonna be helpful for what the point

2422
01:55:07,480 --> 01:55:10,000
Speaker 2: you're making? Or we're gonna end up in another conversation

2423
01:55:10,120 --> 01:55:14,000
Speaker 2: about your transphobia homophobias? Right, you know, so just take

2424
01:55:14,040 --> 01:55:16,120
Speaker 2: the win. Y'all got him to do something you wanted

2425
01:55:16,200 --> 01:55:18,920
Speaker 2: him to do. But I think when you hate the

2426
01:55:19,000 --> 01:55:21,720
Speaker 2: dude or you don't like him, or you really low

2427
01:55:21,800 --> 01:55:23,680
Speaker 2: key love him and want him to come around, you,

2428
01:55:23,720 --> 01:55:26,000
Speaker 2: ain't you just mad he didn't come to your side.

2429
01:55:25,760 --> 01:55:28,560
Speaker 5: All the way right, and he did not obligate it to.

2430
01:55:29,080 --> 01:55:32,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, so anyway, I thought it was great pointing all

2431
01:55:32,240 --> 01:55:35,720
Speaker 2: that shit, but yeah, uh, and then okay, this is

2432
01:55:35,720 --> 01:55:36,680
Speaker 2: the last thing I'll say.

2433
01:55:38,080 --> 01:55:38,960
Speaker 1: Say whatever you want to.

2434
01:55:39,160 --> 01:55:43,640
Speaker 2: I'm I'm you know, I'm totally fine being seen as

2435
01:55:44,120 --> 01:55:47,240
Speaker 2: still having some misogynists issues and shit, I'm a human being,

2436
01:55:47,320 --> 01:55:50,160
Speaker 2: I'm born in America, I'm a man all that shit,

2437
01:55:50,560 --> 01:55:55,640
Speaker 2: But I am never going to play batman with shit

2438
01:55:55,880 --> 01:56:00,320
Speaker 2: like uh, he said Candice Own's pussy stinks, and he

2439
01:56:00,440 --> 01:56:05,400
Speaker 2: called Lord Ingraham kunt I don't know why the fuck

2440
01:56:06,000 --> 01:56:07,760
Speaker 2: liberal people always feel like they need to jump in

2441
01:56:07,800 --> 01:56:11,880
Speaker 2: front of that bullet, but no, let them fry cook them.

2442
01:56:12,000 --> 01:56:14,720
Speaker 2: I don't care, like I don't know why everybody feel

2443
01:56:14,720 --> 01:56:17,200
Speaker 2: like you have to care about that shit. You know,

2444
01:56:17,360 --> 01:56:19,440
Speaker 2: I saw somebody wrote a piece about that. Oh no,

2445
01:56:20,120 --> 01:56:22,440
Speaker 2: I you should never have to stoop to that lefl

2446
01:56:22,480 --> 01:56:23,720
Speaker 2: I'm like, why did you even.

2447
01:56:23,640 --> 01:56:27,480
Speaker 1: Watch this special? Like there's literally no reason to think Dave.

2448
01:56:27,440 --> 01:56:30,840
Speaker 2: Chapelle wouldn't call Cannas Owns what he called her, what

2449
01:56:31,040 --> 01:56:33,200
Speaker 2: the fuck like fuck them?

2450
01:56:33,360 --> 01:56:36,920
Speaker 1: Like these Cannis Owns made a video about how George

2451
01:56:36,960 --> 01:56:40,640
Speaker 1: Floyd deserved to die because he's no hero, He's done

2452
01:56:40,720 --> 01:56:41,560
Speaker 1: crime in the past.

2453
01:56:42,040 --> 01:56:44,760
Speaker 2: Her own conservative black people said that was too far,

2454
01:56:45,160 --> 01:56:47,280
Speaker 2: And we're worried about Dave Chapelle calling.

2455
01:56:47,120 --> 01:56:50,600
Speaker 1: That coon a coon, like, come on, man, when are

2456
01:56:50,600 --> 01:56:52,240
Speaker 1: we gonna anyway?

2457
01:56:52,680 --> 01:56:55,280
Speaker 2: Sometimes you just gotta let the shit go. Lauryd Ingraham

2458
01:56:55,320 --> 01:56:58,280
Speaker 2: getting called a cunt is not my fucking heel to down.

2459
01:56:59,200 --> 01:57:01,680
Speaker 1: Guys. We should never call women up. Get the fuck

2460
01:57:02,040 --> 01:57:05,360
Speaker 1: she's a cunt, by peace. Yeah, I guess I'm a

2461
01:57:05,440 --> 01:57:08,160
Speaker 1: bad person, now, you know. I guess I'm so bad.

2462
01:57:08,200 --> 01:57:11,640
Speaker 2: It's almost like I told lebron Is, shut up and dribbling, said,

2463
01:57:11,720 --> 01:57:13,800
Speaker 2: Drew Brees made great points, right.

2464
01:57:13,800 --> 01:57:15,440
Speaker 1: Well, I said, George Floyd needs to die.

2465
01:57:15,840 --> 01:57:17,560
Speaker 2: I guess you're gonna have to just deal with the

2466
01:57:17,680 --> 01:57:21,520
Speaker 2: degrees of badness, right And apparently to me that, to me,

2467
01:57:21,680 --> 01:57:25,360
Speaker 2: that's very low on the bad factor's calling those evil

2468
01:57:25,400 --> 01:57:27,440
Speaker 2: motherfuckers bitches and cunts and hoes and shit.

2469
01:57:27,480 --> 01:57:27,960
Speaker 1: I don't care.

2470
01:57:28,440 --> 01:57:30,360
Speaker 2: I don't care, and I don't have to care. Same

2471
01:57:30,400 --> 01:57:32,720
Speaker 2: way that I'm a fat person. People for ied Jason

2472
01:57:32,800 --> 01:57:35,760
Speaker 2: whit life for being fat. I have never once been like, well,

2473
01:57:35,800 --> 01:57:37,720
Speaker 2: you know, guys, it's really unfair. It's a fat person.

2474
01:57:38,000 --> 01:57:41,320
Speaker 2: No no, no, Jason, like, y'all go ahead, be go

2475
01:57:41,360 --> 01:57:42,360
Speaker 2: ahead and fat shame him.

2476
01:57:42,360 --> 01:57:43,480
Speaker 1: I don't care. I don't care.

2477
01:57:43,760 --> 01:57:45,520
Speaker 2: If I catch a straight then it's I'll just take

2478
01:57:45,560 --> 01:57:48,320
Speaker 2: the straight for y'all, because honestly, it's a better.

2479
01:57:48,200 --> 01:57:51,240
Speaker 1: World when we're all recognizing that dude's piece of shit.

2480
01:57:51,600 --> 01:57:54,120
Speaker 2: And I know you could be a better person and

2481
01:57:54,200 --> 01:57:57,160
Speaker 2: all that stuff, but don't ever let me catch you

2482
01:57:57,720 --> 01:58:02,000
Speaker 2: saying some shit about how Dave Chappelle shouldn't have went

2483
01:58:02,080 --> 01:58:05,320
Speaker 2: that low and then also mocking Michelle Obama when she

2484
01:58:05,360 --> 01:58:07,160
Speaker 2: told you when they go low, we got high. Come on,

2485
01:58:07,800 --> 01:58:09,640
Speaker 2: then what the fuck are you talking about, because that's

2486
01:58:09,640 --> 01:58:11,400
Speaker 2: as high you can get. Well, we're not gonna talk

2487
01:58:11,440 --> 01:58:13,880
Speaker 2: bad about cannas owner's hair. Well, then don't say nothing

2488
01:58:13,920 --> 01:58:17,640
Speaker 2: bad about Michelle. Right, You don't have to defend these

2489
01:58:17,680 --> 01:58:20,840
Speaker 2: horrible fucking people, you know, just so you can morally

2490
01:58:20,960 --> 01:58:23,520
Speaker 2: dunk on everybody. Those those people are pieces of shit, man,

2491
01:58:24,200 --> 01:58:27,520
Speaker 2: And I like, there has to be a line somewhere

2492
01:58:27,760 --> 01:58:30,960
Speaker 2: that's that's fucking mine. Like you sitting out here literally

2493
01:58:31,040 --> 01:58:33,840
Speaker 2: advocating for innocent black people to get killed by the

2494
01:58:33,920 --> 01:58:35,320
Speaker 2: cops and making excuses.

2495
01:58:35,000 --> 01:58:37,200
Speaker 1: For the shit. And I was supposed to be like, yeah,

2496
01:58:37,320 --> 01:58:38,720
Speaker 1: but you didn't need to say she was a bitch.

2497
01:58:40,320 --> 01:58:43,040
Speaker 1: Get out of here, you know, Well, we don't have

2498
01:58:43,120 --> 01:58:44,200
Speaker 1: to call Terry Crews a coon.

2499
01:58:45,280 --> 01:58:48,200
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, all right, well you don't have to,

2500
01:58:49,120 --> 01:58:50,760
Speaker 2: but somebody will feel compelled to do so.

2501
01:58:51,680 --> 01:58:53,040
Speaker 1: Say, you know what else, you didn't have to You

2502
01:58:53,080 --> 01:58:55,160
Speaker 1: didn't have to write that. Dave Chappelle shouldn't have did it.

2503
01:58:55,200 --> 01:58:57,360
Speaker 1: You didn't have to do No one has to do anything.

2504
01:58:57,640 --> 01:58:59,600
Speaker 5: I could just look at it and gone by my life.

2505
01:58:59,720 --> 01:59:02,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I do that lot of shit. Y'all right, so

2506
01:59:02,480 --> 01:59:04,480
Speaker 1: judge a wait then I'll be judged for that one.

2507
01:59:04,920 --> 01:59:05,440
Speaker 1: I'll take it.

2508
01:59:06,480 --> 01:59:09,200
Speaker 2: Uh anyway, kind is a white man's word. That's not

2509
01:59:09,280 --> 01:59:12,400
Speaker 2: even I'm not saying, no a.

2510
01:59:12,440 --> 01:59:13,160
Speaker 5: Funny word to me.

2511
01:59:13,240 --> 01:59:13,600
Speaker 7: I know that.

2512
01:59:13,800 --> 01:59:15,720
Speaker 4: You know. I know that sounds because I didn't grow

2513
01:59:15,760 --> 01:59:17,960
Speaker 4: up a cut So at first I was like, what

2514
01:59:18,240 --> 01:59:19,200
Speaker 4: is offensive by it?

2515
01:59:19,360 --> 01:59:21,160
Speaker 2: I think you gotta know some white people to really

2516
01:59:21,200 --> 01:59:23,640
Speaker 2: get offenished, right, Like, I didn't know it was a

2517
01:59:23,720 --> 01:59:24,600
Speaker 2: thing until, uh.

2518
01:59:24,960 --> 01:59:25,680
Speaker 1: What was that ship?

2519
01:59:25,760 --> 01:59:27,760
Speaker 5: I didn't know what the thing either dead would.

2520
01:59:27,840 --> 01:59:30,000
Speaker 2: Dead Will was when I was like, oh, that's is

2521
01:59:30,040 --> 01:59:31,800
Speaker 2: that bad? Like I was in a room full of

2522
01:59:31,840 --> 01:59:33,840
Speaker 2: white people. There was a group watching it. I was like,

2523
01:59:34,320 --> 01:59:36,840
Speaker 2: why is everyone Why is all the white women so upset?

2524
01:59:36,920 --> 01:59:39,240
Speaker 1: Right now? They're like, oh, that's a bad word. I

2525
01:59:39,320 --> 01:59:40,120
Speaker 1: was like, what does it mean?

2526
01:59:40,960 --> 01:59:43,280
Speaker 5: That's what's next question? What the hell it means?

2527
01:59:45,560 --> 01:59:47,480
Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe maybe you grow up around a

2528
01:59:47,520 --> 01:59:48,360
Speaker 1: lot of white people.

2529
01:59:49,160 --> 01:59:50,440
Speaker 5: Because I was like, I've never heard what?

2530
01:59:50,680 --> 01:59:51,400
Speaker 1: What? What am I?

2531
01:59:51,840 --> 01:59:53,520
Speaker 5: Then I was like, am I supposed to be offended?

2532
01:59:53,600 --> 01:59:56,640
Speaker 2: Then I was like that ship they really could have

2533
01:59:56,720 --> 01:59:59,640
Speaker 2: made inserted any doctor suit's word and I would not have.

2534
02:00:00,080 --> 02:00:05,680
Speaker 1: Good She's a flippity vivid. I'm like, why is everyone

2535
02:00:05,760 --> 02:00:06,240
Speaker 1: so upset?

2536
02:00:06,760 --> 02:00:07,320
Speaker 5: I don't get it.

2537
02:00:07,440 --> 02:00:09,960
Speaker 1: Okay, I guess, I guess. Don't say flippity vid around

2538
02:00:10,000 --> 02:00:12,240
Speaker 1: white women. What is anyway? All right?

2539
02:00:12,520 --> 02:00:15,640
Speaker 2: We got some emails Ms Marty Kay's right singing. You

2540
02:00:15,760 --> 02:00:19,280
Speaker 2: guys are such an inspiration. You are the sounds of

2541
02:00:19,320 --> 02:00:21,720
Speaker 2: blackness needed. I live so far away from home and

2542
02:00:21,760 --> 02:00:23,920
Speaker 2: the only real time images I see.

2543
02:00:23,760 --> 02:00:26,920
Speaker 1: A blackness or protests and bat black bodies. So glad

2544
02:00:26,960 --> 02:00:27,520
Speaker 1: you do what you do.

2545
02:00:27,680 --> 02:00:29,880
Speaker 2: I had to work until three forty five am over

2546
02:00:29,960 --> 02:00:32,760
Speaker 2: here and y'all were live on your podcast, and y'all

2547
02:00:32,840 --> 02:00:33,880
Speaker 2: really help folks out.

2548
02:00:34,040 --> 02:00:34,320
Speaker 1: Thank you.

2549
02:00:35,040 --> 02:00:37,040
Speaker 4: I did not know we forget would be in other

2550
02:00:37,200 --> 02:00:39,320
Speaker 4: time though, So you at there like wanga you and

2551
02:00:39,480 --> 02:00:41,520
Speaker 4: tomorrow is Sunday where you at.

2552
02:00:41,840 --> 02:00:44,000
Speaker 2: I'm listening to the back catalog and catching up and

2553
02:00:44,040 --> 02:00:45,480
Speaker 2: your thoughts on corporate America.

2554
02:00:45,680 --> 02:00:48,960
Speaker 1: Hit me you hear me. This is just an appreciation email,

2555
02:00:49,040 --> 02:00:52,600
Speaker 1: no real commentary. Me me miss one koh the lady

2556
02:00:52,720 --> 02:00:54,960
Speaker 1: who came to the live show with one good leg.

2557
02:00:55,080 --> 02:00:57,880
Speaker 1: Oh that was you. Thank you, sir ps.

2558
02:00:58,000 --> 02:01:00,560
Speaker 2: Your ig cooking picks are about the have me out

2559
02:01:00,560 --> 02:01:01,560
Speaker 2: here cooking and losing weight?

2560
02:01:01,720 --> 02:01:04,480
Speaker 1: Loll keep it up. Well, you know I tried to

2561
02:01:04,520 --> 02:01:05,280
Speaker 1: cook a little bit.

2562
02:01:05,440 --> 02:01:05,600
Speaker 4: You know.

2563
02:01:05,640 --> 02:01:07,440
Speaker 1: I appreciate you of checking them out.

2564
02:01:08,640 --> 02:01:12,120
Speaker 2: All right, we got one or this is from c FO.

2565
02:01:12,440 --> 02:01:16,800
Speaker 2: See who's a wait not see cast cast always. I'm

2566
02:01:16,840 --> 02:01:17,840
Speaker 2: sorry with these names, y'all.

2567
02:01:17,960 --> 02:01:21,320
Speaker 1: My bad. Hey Rod and Karen, I'm glad y'all talked about.

2568
02:01:21,120 --> 02:01:23,200
Speaker 2: The gray areas of the push to defund the police.

2569
02:01:23,240 --> 02:01:24,920
Speaker 2: I admitted earlier this week that I was a bit

2570
02:01:25,000 --> 02:01:28,120
Speaker 2: confused because a lot of folks conflating defund with abolish,

2571
02:01:28,240 --> 02:01:32,120
Speaker 2: including abolitionists who insist that to state defund does not

2572
02:01:32,280 --> 02:01:35,880
Speaker 2: mean get rid of law enforcement and appropriation of abolition work.

2573
02:01:36,520 --> 02:01:39,320
Speaker 2: I was also confused by why so many took offense

2574
02:01:39,400 --> 02:01:42,280
Speaker 2: to saying that people saying that they were confused. Many

2575
02:01:42,360 --> 02:01:45,040
Speaker 2: people were activated for the first time three weeks ago.

2576
02:01:45,400 --> 02:01:47,960
Speaker 2: I doubt in people's exhaustion and raise they freshened up

2577
02:01:48,000 --> 02:01:49,080
Speaker 2: on law enforcement theory.

2578
02:01:49,400 --> 02:01:49,560
Speaker 4: Right.

2579
02:01:50,360 --> 02:01:53,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's also crazy because my favorite insol now is

2580
02:01:53,480 --> 02:01:55,720
Speaker 2: telling usone to read a book that you know they're

2581
02:01:55,800 --> 02:01:57,920
Speaker 2: not gonna be able to read that book by the

2582
02:01:58,000 --> 02:02:01,880
Speaker 2: next tweet, So like, maybe slow down and explain the

2583
02:02:02,000 --> 02:02:04,480
Speaker 2: concept of the book to them, or stop fucking talking

2584
02:02:04,520 --> 02:02:06,400
Speaker 2: about the shit and getting the attitude of everybody.

2585
02:02:06,600 --> 02:02:09,960
Speaker 1: Then ignore the person that doesn't understand, like I do that.

2586
02:02:10,080 --> 02:02:13,160
Speaker 2: Sometimes I'll tweet something out, somebody will ask some basic

2587
02:02:13,240 --> 02:02:15,840
Speaker 2: ass question and I know that either I'm gonna get

2588
02:02:15,840 --> 02:02:17,920
Speaker 2: an attitude with them or I'm gonna come off smarty

2589
02:02:17,960 --> 02:02:20,480
Speaker 2: and smart, so I just ignore the fucking I'm like, Okay,

2590
02:02:21,400 --> 02:02:22,400
Speaker 2: you know it happens.

2591
02:02:22,960 --> 02:02:24,280
Speaker 5: You don't have to engage with everybody.

2592
02:02:24,440 --> 02:02:26,080
Speaker 1: You know, I mute him if you have to. I mean,

2593
02:02:26,120 --> 02:02:27,960
Speaker 1: we're human. I go, you can't do that with everybody.

2594
02:02:27,960 --> 02:02:31,320
Speaker 2: But some of these motherfuckers spend more time arguing over

2595
02:02:31,400 --> 02:02:33,760
Speaker 2: the shit then explaining what it means.

2596
02:02:34,120 --> 02:02:34,480
Speaker 5: Correct.

2597
02:02:35,280 --> 02:02:36,640
Speaker 1: I'm for defunding the polices.

2598
02:02:36,640 --> 02:02:39,120
Speaker 2: I understand it, and as you both explain that I'm

2599
02:02:39,160 --> 02:02:42,920
Speaker 2: frustrated the abolition and advocates perceive questions about the logical

2600
02:02:43,000 --> 02:02:46,080
Speaker 2: endpoint of abolition as an opposition to the idea. It

2601
02:02:46,200 --> 02:02:48,360
Speaker 2: comes off as a distrust to the very people we're

2602
02:02:48,400 --> 02:02:51,360
Speaker 2: fighting for to be able to take in the uncertainty

2603
02:02:51,400 --> 02:02:53,920
Speaker 2: of no policing or lack of accountability structure for what

2604
02:02:54,000 --> 02:02:56,280
Speaker 2: it's worth. I could be convinced that the uncertainty may

2605
02:02:56,320 --> 02:02:58,680
Speaker 2: be worth it, but the deflecting from the obvious question

2606
02:02:58,760 --> 02:03:02,640
Speaker 2: feels so reminiscent and paternalistic. We know what's best for you,

2607
02:03:02,720 --> 02:03:05,360
Speaker 2: white folks coming in to the black communities to sell

2608
02:03:05,400 --> 02:03:07,200
Speaker 2: a dream that may cost more than it gives.

2609
02:03:07,440 --> 02:03:11,960
Speaker 4: Yes, agreed, Agreed, And I feel the way that you

2610
02:03:12,200 --> 02:03:15,440
Speaker 4: feel is one of those things where we're gonna talk

2611
02:03:15,480 --> 02:03:16,440
Speaker 4: about it, talk about it.

2612
02:03:16,560 --> 02:03:17,800
Speaker 5: If you're not gonna talk about it.

2613
02:03:18,160 --> 02:03:20,520
Speaker 4: Just keep doing your thing and people will keep ignoring you.

2614
02:03:20,640 --> 02:03:23,320
Speaker 4: If you want your message out there, you've got to

2615
02:03:23,480 --> 02:03:24,440
Speaker 4: explain your message.

2616
02:03:24,440 --> 02:03:26,920
Speaker 5: You can't be like, here's my message. Well, then I

2617
02:03:27,000 --> 02:03:28,400
Speaker 5: have a few questions about your message.

2618
02:03:28,440 --> 02:03:31,280
Speaker 4: Well, betch, you don't believe me, you don't support what

2619
02:03:31,640 --> 02:03:34,040
Speaker 4: I don't even know what you've stand for right.

2620
02:03:34,720 --> 02:03:38,120
Speaker 5: How can I be offended and not support something that

2621
02:03:38,200 --> 02:03:38,920
Speaker 5: I don't know what you do?

2622
02:03:39,240 --> 02:03:42,440
Speaker 2: And keep in mind, we've been here before, like this

2623
02:03:42,640 --> 02:03:46,400
Speaker 2: was like when people were suggesting prison and rehab for everybody.

2624
02:03:47,000 --> 02:03:48,280
Speaker 1: This is a similar movement.

2625
02:03:48,680 --> 02:03:52,520
Speaker 2: Hey, this will fix everything, this will we know what

2626
02:03:52,680 --> 02:03:55,280
Speaker 2: to do. And it was black people telling us that

2627
02:03:55,440 --> 02:03:58,280
Speaker 2: it wasn't some white people from coming down from the mountain.

2628
02:03:58,480 --> 02:04:00,560
Speaker 2: We pitched the idea to white peop people that were

2629
02:04:00,600 --> 02:04:03,080
Speaker 2: empowered to say, do these things for us, or else

2630
02:04:03,120 --> 02:04:04,400
Speaker 2: we won't vote for you anymore.

2631
02:04:04,680 --> 02:04:07,280
Speaker 1: This is what happened in the past, So show me

2632
02:04:07,440 --> 02:04:10,320
Speaker 1: that this won't be that right.

2633
02:04:10,520 --> 02:04:12,880
Speaker 2: So now you don't want to hear no questions, move

2634
02:04:12,960 --> 02:04:16,960
Speaker 2: with all speed towards whatever the fuck theoretical ideas we have.

2635
02:04:17,320 --> 02:04:19,520
Speaker 2: And if you ask questions, you don't care about black people,

2636
02:04:19,600 --> 02:04:22,960
Speaker 2: you know. So I get why people feel frustrated, man, right,

2637
02:04:23,000 --> 02:04:23,680
Speaker 2: and it's a turn off.

2638
02:04:23,760 --> 02:04:25,240
Speaker 5: And then they'd be like, well fuck it then, and

2639
02:04:25,600 --> 02:04:27,760
Speaker 5: you well, you just don't care. No, I don't care

2640
02:04:27,800 --> 02:04:29,600
Speaker 5: because you won't take the time to explain.

2641
02:04:30,360 --> 02:04:30,720
Speaker 8: Mm hm.

2642
02:04:32,240 --> 02:04:34,600
Speaker 2: One thing I've been thinking about is the moralization of

2643
02:04:34,640 --> 02:04:38,000
Speaker 2: black folks. Strategies for liberation y'all have touched on many strategies.

2644
02:04:38,080 --> 02:04:41,200
Speaker 2: What we know is respectability politics in the late eighteen hundred,

2645
02:04:41,280 --> 02:04:46,280
Speaker 2: self determination, prosperity investment in the early nineteen hundreds, to nonviolence,

2646
02:04:46,320 --> 02:04:49,000
Speaker 2: civil disobedience in the nineteen sixties, to self defense in

2647
02:04:49,000 --> 02:04:52,360
Speaker 2: the nineteen sixties and seventies, integration, assimilation, and all.

2648
02:04:52,280 --> 02:04:54,520
Speaker 1: The other strategies during those times and thereafter.

2649
02:04:54,920 --> 02:04:58,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'd even say the respectability stretched into the

2650
02:04:59,400 --> 02:05:03,640
Speaker 2: nineteen hundre shit Ida b Wells and and all them.

2651
02:05:04,160 --> 02:05:05,880
Speaker 1: They was Frederick Days.

2652
02:05:05,600 --> 02:05:07,840
Speaker 2: Was talking about need to dress and look a certain

2653
02:05:07,840 --> 02:05:10,240
Speaker 2: way too. As much as we quote them and love

2654
02:05:10,320 --> 02:05:15,560
Speaker 2: them man like they were, that meant something different. Times

2655
02:05:15,680 --> 02:05:19,240
Speaker 2: was different, like it's different, like you might putting on

2656
02:05:19,320 --> 02:05:21,200
Speaker 2: a suit means a lot. When they say a Negro

2657
02:05:21,280 --> 02:05:23,120
Speaker 2: will never be able to put on a suit, you know,

2658
02:05:23,240 --> 02:05:25,040
Speaker 2: it means it meant something different, sir.

2659
02:05:25,960 --> 02:05:27,560
Speaker 1: For some reason, it seems to be a string of

2660
02:05:27,640 --> 02:05:29,160
Speaker 1: moralism put on all of them.

2661
02:05:29,240 --> 02:05:32,400
Speaker 2: The actual objective, how can we get them to stop

2662
02:05:32,480 --> 02:05:34,680
Speaker 2: killing us, to treat us like human and start treating

2663
02:05:34,760 --> 02:05:37,520
Speaker 2: us like human beings, is conflated with the popular strategy

2664
02:05:37,600 --> 02:05:40,720
Speaker 2: of the day. Yes, as many as as much as

2665
02:05:40,760 --> 02:05:43,000
Speaker 2: many of the younger activists today reject a lot of

2666
02:05:43,040 --> 02:05:46,640
Speaker 2: strategies of previous generations and elders themselves, there still there

2667
02:05:46,720 --> 02:05:47,840
Speaker 2: seems to still be this.

2668
02:05:48,040 --> 02:05:49,400
Speaker 1: Need to moralize strategy.

2669
02:05:49,600 --> 02:05:53,040
Speaker 2: Yes, defund slash abolished seems as much as a purity

2670
02:05:53,080 --> 02:05:54,560
Speaker 2: test as his potential policy.

2671
02:05:55,560 --> 02:05:57,320
Speaker 1: It's like there's this belief.

2672
02:05:57,080 --> 02:05:59,880
Speaker 2: That the black people or your didn't care as much

2673
02:06:00,240 --> 02:06:02,600
Speaker 2: or weren't radical enough because their strategy didn't work.

2674
02:06:02,920 --> 02:06:06,240
Speaker 1: That's not accurate or fair, right, I mean, why did

2675
02:06:06,280 --> 02:06:07,200
Speaker 1: they kill these niggas?

2676
02:06:07,280 --> 02:06:10,040
Speaker 2: Like that's another Whenever they say stuff like yeah, you

2677
02:06:10,160 --> 02:06:12,960
Speaker 2: know Martin Luther King, he was just an integration Listen,

2678
02:06:13,000 --> 02:06:14,120
Speaker 2: we'll go integrations done.

2679
02:06:14,120 --> 02:06:16,080
Speaker 1: I'm like, got him killed?

2680
02:06:17,360 --> 02:06:19,960
Speaker 2: If it was so just not revolutionary and that's what

2681
02:06:20,040 --> 02:06:21,960
Speaker 2: white people wanted, they have no problem with it.

2682
02:06:22,320 --> 02:06:24,240
Speaker 1: Why is he dead? Why did the FBI try to

2683
02:06:24,320 --> 02:06:25,000
Speaker 1: destroy him?

2684
02:06:25,560 --> 02:06:26,360
Speaker 5: Why is he dead?

2685
02:06:27,840 --> 02:06:31,120
Speaker 2: All this shit is a threat. But maybe there's a

2686
02:06:31,160 --> 02:06:33,320
Speaker 2: resentment because the strategies are sold as a kind of

2687
02:06:33,400 --> 02:06:37,320
Speaker 2: moral based basis of black resistance, when resistance itself is justified.

2688
02:06:37,360 --> 02:06:39,720
Speaker 2: Giving the history of black people in America, it worries

2689
02:06:39,800 --> 02:06:42,720
Speaker 2: me that folks would prefer to moralized defund slash abolished

2690
02:06:42,720 --> 02:06:45,320
Speaker 2: precisely because we don't know what to expect.

2691
02:06:45,640 --> 02:06:49,280
Speaker 1: Like past strategies, there's a known, known unknown.

2692
02:06:48,960 --> 02:06:51,680
Speaker 2: Of just how evil in citious white supremacy is such

2693
02:06:51,720 --> 02:06:52,919
Speaker 2: that the strategy backfires.

2694
02:06:52,920 --> 02:06:55,960
Speaker 1: It's the corrupt, the wish factor of black life and

2695
02:06:56,000 --> 02:06:57,560
Speaker 1: America that is always on time.

2696
02:06:57,640 --> 02:06:59,880
Speaker 2: I don't mind trying something new, but I just wish

2697
02:07:00,040 --> 02:07:02,200
Speaker 2: you give ourselves a grace to say it's another strategy.

2698
02:07:02,320 --> 02:07:04,280
Speaker 2: It may not work, but we're work but if we're

2699
02:07:04,320 --> 02:07:07,120
Speaker 2: worth trying something different, Yes, and I agree.

2700
02:07:07,640 --> 02:07:11,040
Speaker 4: But the thing is, because of the age we live

2701
02:07:11,120 --> 02:07:14,200
Speaker 4: in and because online and social media pressures all that stuff,

2702
02:07:14,560 --> 02:07:16,920
Speaker 4: if you admit that, you would have to admit that

2703
02:07:16,960 --> 02:07:19,640
Speaker 4: it's not perfect. And nobody wants to admit that whatever

2704
02:07:19,760 --> 02:07:23,360
Speaker 4: their suggestion has flaws. No matter what system you have

2705
02:07:23,560 --> 02:07:25,480
Speaker 4: is gonna have flaws. No matter what system you have,

2706
02:07:25,960 --> 02:07:27,760
Speaker 4: people aren't going to agree with it. No matter what

2707
02:07:27,880 --> 02:07:29,760
Speaker 4: system you have, people are gonna fall through the cracks.

2708
02:07:29,920 --> 02:07:32,400
Speaker 4: No matter what system you have. You know, no matter

2709
02:07:32,480 --> 02:07:34,720
Speaker 4: what you put in place, there's going to be something

2710
02:07:34,800 --> 02:07:37,680
Speaker 4: that is not perfect. And because they if you start

2711
02:07:37,720 --> 02:07:39,360
Speaker 4: getting to the nuance like that, they would have to

2712
02:07:39,440 --> 02:07:41,720
Speaker 4: admit that the system is not perfect, which most people

2713
02:07:41,760 --> 02:07:42,080
Speaker 4: will be.

2714
02:07:42,120 --> 02:07:44,560
Speaker 5: Like, okay, cool, and most people will roll with you

2715
02:07:44,680 --> 02:07:44,920
Speaker 5: on that.

2716
02:07:45,200 --> 02:07:47,360
Speaker 4: But because a lot of them spend so much time

2717
02:07:47,440 --> 02:07:50,760
Speaker 4: online arguing with people about the shit, they don't actually

2718
02:07:50,840 --> 02:07:52,800
Speaker 4: want to talk to the people that are actually on

2719
02:07:53,000 --> 02:07:57,000
Speaker 4: their sides, the non social media people that actually are

2720
02:07:57,040 --> 02:08:00,360
Speaker 4: asking questions that can actually raise money help you get

2721
02:08:00,400 --> 02:08:02,640
Speaker 4: these things you want in place, the people that actually vote,

2722
02:08:02,880 --> 02:08:05,120
Speaker 4: the people that are actually out there that are all

2723
02:08:05,240 --> 02:08:07,600
Speaker 4: on the streets. You have to if you want this

2724
02:08:07,760 --> 02:08:10,400
Speaker 4: moment to go forward, you've got to have real life,

2725
02:08:10,480 --> 02:08:11,080
Speaker 4: moving people.

2726
02:08:11,120 --> 02:08:15,000
Speaker 5: And everybody can't tweet. Everybody just can't. Twitter can't be

2727
02:08:15,160 --> 02:08:17,240
Speaker 5: your thing. Facebook can't be your thing. You can do that,

2728
02:08:17,480 --> 02:08:20,320
Speaker 5: but you actually got to have a disconnect and have

2729
02:08:20,440 --> 02:08:23,360
Speaker 5: some people out here that's able to explain and able

2730
02:08:23,440 --> 02:08:24,960
Speaker 5: to help other people understand.

2731
02:08:24,960 --> 02:08:27,720
Speaker 4: Because if I understand, I can go to my family

2732
02:08:27,760 --> 02:08:30,040
Speaker 4: members and get them to understand, and then they can

2733
02:08:30,120 --> 02:08:32,960
Speaker 4: get them to understand. But if I'm asking you the

2734
02:08:33,120 --> 02:08:36,840
Speaker 4: source of this, because you're presenting this radical idea and

2735
02:08:37,600 --> 02:08:39,280
Speaker 4: your first response is to get.

2736
02:08:39,560 --> 02:08:42,920
Speaker 5: Offended and angry, how can you expect it to grow?

2737
02:08:43,480 --> 02:08:43,680
Speaker 1: Yeah?

2738
02:08:43,720 --> 02:08:46,680
Speaker 2: I think also like you don't have to accept that

2739
02:08:46,760 --> 02:08:50,280
Speaker 2: your answers might not work for everybody, and that some

2740
02:08:50,520 --> 02:08:53,760
Speaker 2: answers you don't have you don't have, you know. I

2741
02:08:53,800 --> 02:08:56,240
Speaker 2: think also when you're presenting an idea like this, people

2742
02:08:56,280 --> 02:08:58,720
Speaker 2: want you to have all the answers already fleshed out,

2743
02:08:58,720 --> 02:09:00,400
Speaker 2: and in a lot of cases like I actually don't know,

2744
02:09:01,520 --> 02:09:03,839
Speaker 2: you know, I don't know what we do with this situation.

2745
02:09:04,080 --> 02:09:05,440
Speaker 1: I don't know how we fixed that.

2746
02:09:06,400 --> 02:09:08,160
Speaker 2: You know, people are like one of their big things

2747
02:09:08,240 --> 02:09:11,200
Speaker 2: to say, like have police ever helped in a situation

2748
02:09:11,240 --> 02:09:11,960
Speaker 2: where they're called have.

2749
02:09:12,000 --> 02:09:13,360
Speaker 1: They ever made anything better?

2750
02:09:14,080 --> 02:09:16,920
Speaker 2: And then they'd never ready for you to be like, actually, yes,

2751
02:09:17,400 --> 02:09:19,080
Speaker 2: a couple of times I have that with police and

2752
02:09:19,120 --> 02:09:22,240
Speaker 2: they've made a situation better. They don't want like they're

2753
02:09:22,280 --> 02:09:24,120
Speaker 2: expecting you to be like they came and they killed

2754
02:09:24,120 --> 02:09:26,200
Speaker 2: my uncle or some shit where it's like, you know,

2755
02:09:26,440 --> 02:09:28,920
Speaker 2: there was a fucking white girl, drunken shit knocking on

2756
02:09:29,000 --> 02:09:33,120
Speaker 2: our porch door, and the police came and fucking you know,

2757
02:09:33,400 --> 02:09:36,120
Speaker 2: got to offer the porch and then ended up, you know,

2758
02:09:36,240 --> 02:09:37,680
Speaker 2: helped taking her to their friend's house.

2759
02:09:38,960 --> 02:09:42,000
Speaker 1: I mean, they didn't show up and kill anybody. Didn't

2760
02:09:42,000 --> 02:09:42,920
Speaker 1: make it worse or whatever.

2761
02:09:43,040 --> 02:09:45,080
Speaker 2: And I mean they made it better for me because

2762
02:09:45,120 --> 02:09:47,360
Speaker 2: I'm worried some dead white girl's gonna be fine on

2763
02:09:47,400 --> 02:09:49,440
Speaker 2: my porch and now I'm going to prison like Bigger Thomas.

2764
02:09:49,560 --> 02:09:53,080
Speaker 2: But but you know, maybe they helped me when my

2765
02:09:53,520 --> 02:09:55,840
Speaker 2: car had an issue or some shit like this is

2766
02:09:55,920 --> 02:09:59,560
Speaker 2: not and that's not up a defense of the police.

2767
02:09:59,560 --> 02:10:05,520
Speaker 2: It's just we're recognizing the complicated issue of all these

2768
02:10:05,640 --> 02:10:08,080
Speaker 2: roles police play. Maybe they shouldn't even be the people

2769
02:10:08,160 --> 02:10:10,560
Speaker 2: to do both of those things. Triple A can come

2770
02:10:10,600 --> 02:10:14,320
Speaker 2: fix my car. Uh, maybe there's some mental health service

2771
02:10:14,360 --> 02:10:15,800
Speaker 2: that can come get this girl off my porch.

2772
02:10:15,880 --> 02:10:16,800
Speaker 1: I don't you know what I'm saying.

2773
02:10:16,800 --> 02:10:19,960
Speaker 2: So this isn't me being like uh, because if we

2774
02:10:20,120 --> 02:10:22,360
Speaker 2: love the police, it's just to admit that that that

2775
02:10:22,560 --> 02:10:26,160
Speaker 2: maybe it's not as black and white for everyone in

2776
02:10:26,240 --> 02:10:27,240
Speaker 2: the way that you're thinking.

2777
02:10:27,440 --> 02:10:32,560
Speaker 1: And so maybe you know, maybe there's there's.

2778
02:10:32,440 --> 02:10:35,320
Speaker 2: Like some some some area in between the work with people,

2779
02:10:35,480 --> 02:10:38,480
Speaker 2: rather than to just kind of shame them for being like,

2780
02:10:38,600 --> 02:10:41,960
Speaker 2: I'm not one hundred cent sold on all this, you know,

2781
02:10:42,360 --> 02:10:44,360
Speaker 2: And like I said, you don't have to have all answers,

2782
02:10:44,360 --> 02:10:47,360
Speaker 2: So just tell a nigga you don't know. I don't know,

2783
02:10:48,040 --> 02:10:51,560
Speaker 2: and then most people Okay, yeah, what we're gonna do

2784
02:10:51,640 --> 02:10:52,520
Speaker 2: for restraining orders?

2785
02:10:52,600 --> 02:10:55,120
Speaker 1: I actually don't know what we're gonna do about restraining orders.

2786
02:10:55,160 --> 02:10:57,360
Speaker 2: I know that they don't really work that great anyway,

2787
02:10:58,160 --> 02:11:01,440
Speaker 2: so you know, I you know, but I also don't

2788
02:11:01,560 --> 02:11:04,840
Speaker 2: know what we'll do in the new world we're imagining,

2789
02:11:05,160 --> 02:11:08,200
Speaker 2: you know, because whatever if they imagine up, everyone's not

2790
02:11:08,280 --> 02:11:10,520
Speaker 2: gonna agree on the imagining thing anyway.

2791
02:11:11,200 --> 02:11:12,800
Speaker 1: You have to accept, like this is the thing.

2792
02:11:13,120 --> 02:11:15,440
Speaker 2: When you're able to be in charge and have the

2793
02:11:15,520 --> 02:11:18,160
Speaker 2: seat at the table, you're gonna have to accept the

2794
02:11:18,240 --> 02:11:21,360
Speaker 2: criticisms and consequences of you being at the table. And

2795
02:11:21,480 --> 02:11:23,600
Speaker 2: if in this world, you know, one of the things

2796
02:11:23,640 --> 02:11:28,240
Speaker 2: that can continually happen to people is a lot of

2797
02:11:28,280 --> 02:11:31,120
Speaker 2: abuse and stuff because we don't even have a place

2798
02:11:31,200 --> 02:11:34,280
Speaker 2: to put somebody, then you're gonna have to be the

2799
02:11:34,360 --> 02:11:36,840
Speaker 2: one to bear the brunt of that criticism. That's the

2800
02:11:36,920 --> 02:11:40,040
Speaker 2: same way the system now bears the brunt of those criticisms, right.

2801
02:11:40,040 --> 02:11:42,800
Speaker 1: Like it just is what it is and not on.

2802
02:11:43,080 --> 02:11:45,680
Speaker 4: But a lot of people that that people don't argument

2803
02:11:45,760 --> 02:11:48,320
Speaker 4: online about this shit. Some of them don't even know

2804
02:11:48,400 --> 02:11:50,800
Speaker 4: themselves that like I'm just keeping it real, Like there

2805
02:11:50,800 --> 02:11:52,640
Speaker 4: are some people that are really educated that are actually

2806
02:11:52,640 --> 02:11:54,720
Speaker 4: trying to help, but a lot of them don't. They've

2807
02:11:54,760 --> 02:11:58,880
Speaker 4: picked their side and be a defund or abolished and

2808
02:11:59,000 --> 02:12:02,200
Speaker 4: they're just running with a lot of them haven't even

2809
02:12:02,200 --> 02:12:03,240
Speaker 4: read this shit, right.

2810
02:12:03,320 --> 02:12:07,400
Speaker 5: Uneducated, and they don't know. And and for a lot

2811
02:12:07,480 --> 02:12:10,919
Speaker 5: of them, they can't explain because they don't know themselves.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, go read a book, Like if you read the book,

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02:12:13,800 --> 02:12:16,400
Speaker 2: you read right, you you wrote the thread trying to

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02:12:16,400 --> 02:12:18,760
Speaker 2: explain to everybody, So if you read the book, maybe

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02:12:18,960 --> 02:12:21,240
Speaker 2: try to break down what it is.

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Speaker 5: Like, you know, and also for a lot of it

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02:12:23,840 --> 02:12:25,400
Speaker 5: stuff like you said, it's.

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02:12:25,400 --> 02:12:28,200
Speaker 4: Really cool to put stuff online when it's in theory,

2819
02:12:28,920 --> 02:12:32,080
Speaker 4: but when it's called, when it's accountability, that shit changes.

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02:12:32,200 --> 02:12:34,560
Speaker 1: Well. Hopefully we'll see that, man. I think some places

2821
02:12:34,560 --> 02:12:35,160
Speaker 1: are going to try.

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02:12:35,240 --> 02:12:37,400
Speaker 2: Minneapolis, it looks like they're going to try some things

2823
02:12:37,720 --> 02:12:40,800
Speaker 2: and if if it looks good, there's a lot of

2824
02:12:40,840 --> 02:12:43,360
Speaker 2: pressure on those people. But if they figure something out,

2825
02:12:45,560 --> 02:12:47,760
Speaker 2: maybe something good will come to this. Because what I

2826
02:12:47,920 --> 02:12:50,920
Speaker 2: don't some of these other solutions I've seen propose. I've

2827
02:12:50,920 --> 02:12:53,360
Speaker 2: definitely not fucking you know, privatized police and ship.

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02:12:53,400 --> 02:12:56,080
Speaker 1: I'm not fucking with that. That's terrible. Yes, that that's

2829
02:12:56,160 --> 02:12:59,240
Speaker 1: that should immediately that's that should be illegal even right,

2830
02:12:59,360 --> 02:13:01,960
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So we'll see what happens.

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02:13:02,000 --> 02:13:05,400
Speaker 2: I do understand the short the misg givings and shortcoms

2832
02:13:05,440 --> 02:13:08,240
Speaker 2: of this system and why that needs to change, you know.

2833
02:13:08,360 --> 02:13:10,240
Speaker 2: And I think that's why you see more people hopping

2834
02:13:10,280 --> 02:13:14,160
Speaker 2: on defund than abolish, because defund actually seems to have

2835
02:13:14,320 --> 02:13:18,240
Speaker 2: more answers. Abolish seems to have less. It's like it's

2836
02:13:18,320 --> 02:13:21,880
Speaker 2: so simple that it's it leaves the least amount of

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02:13:21,960 --> 02:13:22,880
Speaker 2: answers and.

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02:13:22,880 --> 02:13:24,680
Speaker 5: People that, oh, you don't got no answers? What we

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02:13:24,800 --> 02:13:26,120
Speaker 5: go defund it abolish?

2840
02:13:26,240 --> 02:13:27,320
Speaker 1: We just don't have no police.

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02:13:27,360 --> 02:13:29,480
Speaker 2: Okay, So what happens to the racist ask people that

2842
02:13:29,560 --> 02:13:31,920
Speaker 2: I police right now as they go back into the

2843
02:13:32,000 --> 02:13:34,160
Speaker 2: community and can do whatever the fuck they want.

2844
02:13:34,280 --> 02:13:36,560
Speaker 4: And the answer is, I sayd the bbolish. Okay, bitch, okay,

2845
02:13:36,680 --> 02:13:37,960
Speaker 4: I understand you said abolished.

2846
02:13:37,960 --> 02:13:40,200
Speaker 5: Can we give me something? I said? I said, I say,

2847
02:13:40,240 --> 02:13:42,320
Speaker 5: And that's about of shit. You're still not asking the questions.

2848
02:13:42,320 --> 02:13:44,520
Speaker 1: We abolish it, bad things will stop happening, you know.

2849
02:13:44,840 --> 02:13:49,080
Speaker 2: So we'll see, Uh, anyway, guys, the last thing is anyways,

2850
02:13:49,200 --> 02:13:50,480
Speaker 2: those are my ramblant thoughts.

2851
02:13:50,560 --> 02:13:52,320
Speaker 1: Thanks for all you do cast always Thank you, Cass.

2852
02:13:52,320 --> 02:13:53,960
Speaker 1: You gave us a lot to think about. Yes, thank

2853
02:13:54,000 --> 02:13:56,360
Speaker 1: you and talk about. And then, of course we also

2854
02:13:56,560 --> 02:14:00,560
Speaker 1: got a letter in the mail.

2855
02:14:01,480 --> 02:14:10,560
Speaker 3: Guests, guests, more GISTs, more guests.

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02:14:13,760 --> 02:14:15,840
Speaker 1: We got this letter. I'm trying to see if it

2857
02:14:15,880 --> 02:14:19,960
Speaker 1: says it was from because it staying on the envelope.

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02:14:19,960 --> 02:14:23,600
Speaker 1: Oh Becca, we didn't sell on the envelope to Rod

2859
02:14:23,640 --> 02:14:24,080
Speaker 1: and Karen.

2860
02:14:24,440 --> 02:14:29,000
Speaker 2: I've cried every day since this asshole, Chauvin Chauvin sorry

2861
02:14:29,120 --> 02:14:33,240
Speaker 2: Jail and his coward cop buddies killed George Floyd. It's

2862
02:14:33,280 --> 02:14:36,520
Speaker 2: been passive prior to this. I didn't expose myself to

2863
02:14:36,600 --> 02:14:39,360
Speaker 2: the stories. I saw the Black Lives Matter movement on

2864
02:14:39,480 --> 02:14:41,280
Speaker 2: the news, and I refuse believe that message.

2865
02:14:41,280 --> 02:14:43,280
Speaker 1: I wanted to believe we were better than they said.

2866
02:14:43,400 --> 02:14:47,360
Speaker 2: Of course, I felt sad and uh, let's see, I

2867
02:14:47,400 --> 02:14:50,520
Speaker 2: guess angry for Trayvon and Tamyr and so many others.

2868
02:14:50,600 --> 02:14:52,600
Speaker 1: But I did nothing. I didn't speak on it.

2869
02:14:52,680 --> 02:14:56,160
Speaker 2: I didn't engage interview, I didn't engage in viewing actions

2870
02:14:56,200 --> 02:14:58,960
Speaker 2: around it. I started to realize the gravity when this

2871
02:14:59,200 --> 02:15:05,440
Speaker 2: racist fuck will Ray I forget his name. Yeah, he

2872
02:15:05,560 --> 02:15:11,800
Speaker 2: killed Samuel du Bois outside of Clifton and Senci. He

2873
02:15:11,960 --> 02:15:14,560
Speaker 2: killed that man who just tried to protect his rights

2874
02:15:14,560 --> 02:15:17,880
Speaker 2: as an American and to not be unlawfully detained. I

2875
02:15:17,920 --> 02:15:19,920
Speaker 2: saw the video, I listened to his family. I spoke

2876
02:15:19,960 --> 02:15:22,800
Speaker 2: out on social media. This was a super passive approach.

2877
02:15:22,880 --> 02:15:25,040
Speaker 2: After what I've seen these last few days, I realized

2878
02:15:25,400 --> 02:15:27,520
Speaker 2: I needed to take better actions. So I committed myself

2879
02:15:27,520 --> 02:15:30,760
Speaker 2: to patronize more black owned businesses where I can listen.

2880
02:15:30,920 --> 02:15:32,120
Speaker 1: Your girl still needs.

2881
02:15:31,920 --> 02:15:34,120
Speaker 2: Amazon, but there are a lot of things I can

2882
02:15:34,200 --> 02:15:37,440
Speaker 2: get from these smaller businesses. Y'all are the first of many.

2883
02:15:37,720 --> 02:15:39,840
Speaker 2: I've been listening to the free shows off and on

2884
02:15:39,960 --> 02:15:42,720
Speaker 2: for about a year now. I won't take in enough

2885
02:15:42,840 --> 02:15:45,560
Speaker 2: content to describe to premium, and I still gotta be smart,

2886
02:15:45,640 --> 02:15:48,560
Speaker 2: but I have wanted to contribute. I recently paid off

2887
02:15:48,600 --> 02:15:51,080
Speaker 2: a lot of debt. Pocket money has been available, and

2888
02:15:51,160 --> 02:15:53,400
Speaker 2: I think supporting y'all is a good way to spend it.

2889
02:15:53,600 --> 02:15:57,919
Speaker 2: Keep your commentary going. It's showing me things I've never considered.

2890
02:15:58,160 --> 02:16:01,960
Speaker 2: I think you all take a good approach to these topics.

2891
02:16:03,240 --> 02:16:05,520
Speaker 2: I love that the commentary is real, but you also

2892
02:16:05,680 --> 02:16:07,240
Speaker 2: managed to find humor in these topics.

2893
02:16:07,520 --> 02:16:08,920
Speaker 1: I appreciate that about your show.

2894
02:16:08,960 --> 02:16:10,840
Speaker 2: It helped me see a different point of view without

2895
02:16:10,920 --> 02:16:13,040
Speaker 2: making me feel like a piece of shit with a

2896
02:16:13,280 --> 02:16:16,320
Speaker 2: white with white guilt, although trust me, I still feel

2897
02:16:16,360 --> 02:16:19,040
Speaker 2: it watching some of these protests, riot videos and what

2898
02:16:19,160 --> 02:16:21,560
Speaker 2: the cops are doing on live and still don't care.

2899
02:16:22,760 --> 02:16:23,680
Speaker 1: And they still don't care.

2900
02:16:23,800 --> 02:16:25,840
Speaker 2: I want you and the community as of color to thrive.

2901
02:16:25,920 --> 02:16:29,960
Speaker 2: I hope my commitment will help. Please accept this forty

2902
02:16:29,960 --> 02:16:33,000
Speaker 2: dollars donation for your entertainment company. I'm sending in my

2903
02:16:33,080 --> 02:16:34,920
Speaker 2: first tith, it won't be my last.

2904
02:16:35,000 --> 02:16:37,640
Speaker 1: Feel free to share this with our friends if you

2905
02:16:37,720 --> 02:16:40,240
Speaker 1: want the friends that you want.

2906
02:16:40,360 --> 02:16:42,560
Speaker 2: This isn't about getting credit or points. I needed to

2907
02:16:42,640 --> 02:16:45,400
Speaker 2: express myself and start to do better. Thank you for

2908
02:16:45,560 --> 02:16:47,680
Speaker 2: allowing me to do so, and for all your hard work.

2909
02:16:47,760 --> 02:16:49,240
Speaker 2: God bless Beka, Thank.

2910
02:16:49,080 --> 02:16:50,000
Speaker 1: You, Becho, thank you.

2911
02:16:50,680 --> 02:16:55,000
Speaker 2: And yeah, we're gonna use this twenty dollars on something. Okay,

2912
02:16:56,040 --> 02:16:57,520
Speaker 2: I make sure the lights aw this down.

2913
02:16:57,680 --> 02:16:59,920
Speaker 1: You know, coronavirus. You gotta be kepu out.

2914
02:16:59,840 --> 02:17:01,640
Speaker 5: Here person towards you coronavirus.

2915
02:17:01,800 --> 02:17:04,720
Speaker 1: But nah, thank you for real. That's the ope.

2916
02:17:04,879 --> 02:17:08,160
Speaker 2: You know, I'm glad that our podcast reached you in

2917
02:17:08,280 --> 02:17:10,560
Speaker 2: that way, and it's dope that you're gonna be supporting

2918
02:17:10,840 --> 02:17:14,840
Speaker 2: black businesses and stuff out there. Hopefully you know, this

2919
02:17:15,000 --> 02:17:18,440
Speaker 2: is not something that you just uh stop. You know,

2920
02:17:18,520 --> 02:17:21,160
Speaker 2: at some point, hopefully you continue to do this. And

2921
02:17:21,200 --> 02:17:22,880
Speaker 2: I don't mean stop for us, I mean just in

2922
02:17:23,000 --> 02:17:25,960
Speaker 2: general for other people. You know, I think that's very admirable.

2923
02:17:26,000 --> 02:17:28,320
Speaker 2: I know a lot of people are trying to find

2924
02:17:28,360 --> 02:17:31,920
Speaker 2: ways to help and trying to find tangible ways to

2925
02:17:34,320 --> 02:17:37,840
Speaker 2: do things that make them feel somewhat better, you know, helpful,

2926
02:17:38,879 --> 02:17:41,720
Speaker 2: and uh, you know, you're not alone in that. You

2927
02:17:41,800 --> 02:17:43,240
Speaker 2: know a lot of people feel that way. I know

2928
02:17:43,320 --> 02:17:45,240
Speaker 2: Black people that are like, I'm only buying stuff from

2929
02:17:45,280 --> 02:17:45,720
Speaker 2: black people.

2930
02:17:45,800 --> 02:17:49,160
Speaker 5: Now, yeah, I've gone.

2931
02:17:50,760 --> 02:17:54,760
Speaker 4: I've gone more out of my way than ever knowing

2932
02:17:54,840 --> 02:17:56,400
Speaker 4: that a lot of black people didn't get a lot

2933
02:17:56,440 --> 02:17:58,800
Speaker 4: of money due to them with all the loans and

2934
02:17:58,840 --> 02:17:59,320
Speaker 4: all that shit.

2935
02:17:59,360 --> 02:18:00,000
Speaker 5: They got skipped.

2936
02:18:00,560 --> 02:18:02,880
Speaker 4: So a lot of times when I'm on social media

2937
02:18:02,920 --> 02:18:05,440
Speaker 4: and I see people like post these lists, I'll actually

2938
02:18:05,520 --> 02:18:05,720
Speaker 4: go in.

2939
02:18:06,160 --> 02:18:07,959
Speaker 5: It's a dude out in Seattle.

2940
02:18:08,080 --> 02:18:12,520
Speaker 4: He sells spices and stuff at that piker's peak mark

2941
02:18:12,840 --> 02:18:17,720
Speaker 4: out there and I got some honey hot sauce from

2942
02:18:17,800 --> 02:18:20,960
Speaker 4: him and it is absolutely delicious. I put that on

2943
02:18:21,000 --> 02:18:22,840
Speaker 4: some pizza. I'm probably wi order some more stuff. And

2944
02:18:24,040 --> 02:18:26,560
Speaker 4: when I see stuff like that, I know I've ordered

2945
02:18:26,600 --> 02:18:29,000
Speaker 4: like barbecue sauce from black people and things like that,

2946
02:18:29,200 --> 02:18:32,160
Speaker 4: Like I'll actually will proachase stuff from them because you know,

2947
02:18:32,280 --> 02:18:34,320
Speaker 4: you see these things. You know, for us, it's hard

2948
02:18:34,360 --> 02:18:35,840
Speaker 4: for us to get our names out there a lot.

2949
02:18:36,040 --> 02:18:38,640
Speaker 4: With the Internet, it takes things that normally was to

2950
02:18:38,760 --> 02:18:40,720
Speaker 4: the community and make it wider spread.

2951
02:18:41,160 --> 02:18:42,360
Speaker 5: So you know, I will pay.

2952
02:18:42,680 --> 02:18:44,160
Speaker 4: You know, I probably have to pay a little bit

2953
02:18:44,200 --> 02:18:46,400
Speaker 4: more because I'm paying for the shipping to get here

2954
02:18:46,480 --> 02:18:48,840
Speaker 4: to Charlotte and things like that, but I'm willing to

2955
02:18:49,000 --> 02:18:51,560
Speaker 4: pay it when I have it, just so I can

2956
02:18:51,720 --> 02:18:53,320
Speaker 4: just show support to black people.

2957
02:18:53,360 --> 02:18:55,160
Speaker 5: And sometimes that means you have to pay more.

2958
02:18:55,360 --> 02:18:57,480
Speaker 4: And I understand we live in a society where everybody

2959
02:18:57,520 --> 02:18:59,920
Speaker 4: wants everything to be Amazon price, but bitch, everything came

2960
02:19:00,040 --> 02:19:00,800
Speaker 4: be Amazon price.

2961
02:19:00,840 --> 02:19:01,320
Speaker 1: I'm sorry.

2962
02:19:01,640 --> 02:19:03,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, they say, you know, check on your black friends

2963
02:19:04,040 --> 02:19:06,840
Speaker 2: right now, and I've been saying for a while, write

2964
02:19:06,840 --> 02:19:09,200
Speaker 2: a check on your black friends. Okay, just write a

2965
02:19:09,360 --> 02:19:13,080
Speaker 2: check to us there, black friends. This amount of money.

2966
02:19:13,680 --> 02:19:14,400
Speaker 2: That's what we want.

2967
02:19:14,840 --> 02:19:17,879
Speaker 1: So you know, don't don't just check on them, write

2968
02:19:17,879 --> 02:19:21,680
Speaker 1: a check on them. Okay, and we appreciate the checks. Okay.

2969
02:19:21,840 --> 02:19:22,600
Speaker 1: We are out here.

2970
02:19:22,720 --> 02:19:26,440
Speaker 2: I'm listening they writing about us in these Oh that's

2971
02:19:26,480 --> 02:19:27,440
Speaker 2: what I meant to talk about.

2972
02:19:27,959 --> 02:19:30,120
Speaker 1: We got written about a couple of times. Let me

2973
02:19:30,360 --> 02:19:31,320
Speaker 1: give give me a second.

2974
02:19:32,120 --> 02:19:34,280
Speaker 2: But they're writing about us now on all these lists

2975
02:19:34,320 --> 02:19:36,400
Speaker 2: of people that want to like make sure black people

2976
02:19:36,480 --> 02:19:39,959
Speaker 2: get credit for these podcasts and ship.

2977
02:19:40,920 --> 02:19:44,880
Speaker 1: You know, people are reaching out, and uh, you know what,

2978
02:19:44,959 --> 02:19:46,240
Speaker 1: I will accept every.

2979
02:19:46,080 --> 02:19:49,840
Speaker 2: Last white guilt click every last white guilt listen, because

2980
02:19:49,840 --> 02:19:51,960
Speaker 2: I don't know when this shit is gonna end. You know,

2981
02:19:52,080 --> 02:19:55,120
Speaker 2: white guilt is not the most reliable form of support

2982
02:19:55,560 --> 02:19:59,800
Speaker 2: because leaves. Yeah, so you know you always opt out.

2983
02:20:00,000 --> 02:20:04,000
Speaker 2: So yeah, there's one on backtracks FM. It's a six

2984
02:20:04,200 --> 02:20:10,320
Speaker 2: minute read article but Backtracks FM, and it's called Amplifying

2985
02:20:10,440 --> 02:20:12,880
Speaker 2: Black Voices and Podcasts Comedy.

2986
02:20:13,920 --> 02:20:18,320
Speaker 1: I will share this in the chat for you guys,

2987
02:20:18,640 --> 02:20:20,240
Speaker 1: and I'll try to remember.

2988
02:20:20,000 --> 02:20:23,480
Speaker 2: To put a link in the show notes for people

2989
02:20:23,959 --> 02:20:26,000
Speaker 2: because I think it always helps when they feature us.

2990
02:20:26,000 --> 02:20:28,080
Speaker 1: And then we click on the things and we was

2991
02:20:28,120 --> 02:20:29,120
Speaker 1: at the top of this page.

2992
02:20:29,200 --> 02:20:32,800
Speaker 2: Y'all, Hey, here are non black lead podcasts using that

2993
02:20:32,920 --> 02:20:35,959
Speaker 2: human to make quite a splash. And The Blackout Tells.

2994
02:20:35,959 --> 02:20:38,440
Speaker 2: The Blackout Tests put a great spent on deep issues

2995
02:20:38,480 --> 02:20:41,760
Speaker 2: by infusing podcasts with a heavy dose of hilarious comedy.

2996
02:20:41,840 --> 02:20:44,800
Speaker 2: Rod and Karenmarrow provide a witty and humorous black voices

2997
02:20:45,200 --> 02:20:47,920
Speaker 2: to politics, current events, and pop culture to create a

2998
02:20:47,959 --> 02:20:51,160
Speaker 2: space of empathy, inclusion, and a lot of laughter. Regularly

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02:20:51,280 --> 02:20:55,040
Speaker 2: featured on news outlets, consistently trending on the podcast Comedy Charts,

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02:20:55,360 --> 02:20:58,560
Speaker 2: Riding and Care are refreshing dose of quality daily content.

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02:20:58,720 --> 02:21:05,119
Speaker 1: Well worth listen. So yeah that that that's dope.

3002
02:21:05,160 --> 02:21:08,880
Speaker 2: And they have other writing and Raven with Y'allminika best

3003
02:21:08,959 --> 02:21:12,959
Speaker 2: Friends with Nicole Bier and Samada, The Read of Course,

3004
02:21:13,400 --> 02:21:16,480
Speaker 2: Uh Small Doses with the Manda Sills, The Daily Show

3005
02:21:16,520 --> 02:21:19,480
Speaker 2: with Trevor Noah, Horrible Decisions. I know a lot of

3006
02:21:19,520 --> 02:21:23,080
Speaker 2: our fans we share with them, brilliant idiots, Charlemagne the

3007
02:21:23,120 --> 02:21:28,160
Speaker 2: God and Andrews Show, y'all Face, Sibling Robbery is Bob

3008
02:21:28,240 --> 02:21:32,000
Speaker 2: the Drag Queen and Money Exchange, So you know, they

3009
02:21:32,320 --> 02:21:35,680
Speaker 2: they definitely uh you know, gave us a big shout

3010
02:21:35,720 --> 02:21:37,920
Speaker 2: out in uh in the backtracks f M.

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02:21:38,040 --> 02:21:42,040
Speaker 1: So we appreciate that. And then the other one, we

3012
02:21:42,160 --> 02:21:48,080
Speaker 1: actually got interviewed for their podcast in addition to them

3013
02:21:48,160 --> 02:21:50,720
Speaker 1: writing about us. But let me see if I can

3014
02:21:50,920 --> 02:21:53,960
Speaker 1: uh find the link because I know I saved it.

3015
02:21:55,879 --> 02:21:59,520
Speaker 1: But yeah, they yeah, they they wrote about us. Man,

3016
02:21:59,560 --> 02:22:01,520
Speaker 1: why can't I fun this link? I know I saved it.

3017
02:22:01,920 --> 02:22:03,400
Speaker 1: You know, I'll just search the text.

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02:22:03,760 --> 02:22:09,600
Speaker 2: But yeah, we we also have some Yeah, Black Lives

3019
02:22:09,680 --> 02:22:13,440
Speaker 2: Matter six podcast, Freature and Black Voice Voice Voices. It

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02:22:13,520 --> 02:22:15,720
Speaker 2: is on Verbal v U r b L and they

3021
02:22:15,800 --> 02:22:19,360
Speaker 2: interviewed us on their podcast as well, so you know,

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02:22:19,480 --> 02:22:23,400
Speaker 2: hopefully that means that we'll be able to plug the

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02:22:23,600 --> 02:22:28,160
Speaker 2: interview soon. Yes, and I'll put that in the chat

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Speaker 2: as well. You guys can check out that link. Yeah,

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02:22:32,959 --> 02:22:36,520
Speaker 2: ms smart. Yeah, we're the only truly independent, non TV

3026
02:22:36,600 --> 02:22:37,320
Speaker 2: famous on the list.

3027
02:22:37,360 --> 02:22:37,720
Speaker 1: Look at that.

3028
02:22:37,879 --> 02:22:45,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's pretty much every list. I shouldn't say every list,

3029
02:22:45,480 --> 02:22:47,160
Speaker 2: that's not true, but a lot of lists.

3030
02:22:47,200 --> 02:22:48,320
Speaker 1: We do be the one.

3031
02:22:49,360 --> 02:22:54,400
Speaker 2: But yeah, Verbal did one, and they they shouted out

3032
02:22:54,480 --> 02:22:55,320
Speaker 2: six podcasts.

3033
02:22:55,760 --> 02:22:57,400
Speaker 1: We were the last one on this one. Okay.

3034
02:22:57,560 --> 02:23:01,199
Speaker 2: Black Talk Radio Network, New Black Media for the New millennium.

3035
02:23:01,760 --> 02:23:04,520
Speaker 2: They've been doing podcasts since forever, since two thousand and

3036
02:23:04,560 --> 02:23:10,240
Speaker 2: eight of scenes, uh fuck work, But I'm gonna go, I've.

3037
02:23:10,080 --> 02:23:11,480
Speaker 1: Never heard of this podcast name.

3038
02:23:11,680 --> 02:23:13,240
Speaker 5: I might subscribe to that one.

3039
02:23:13,280 --> 02:23:17,200
Speaker 1: And it's f no U so f c K fuck work,

3040
02:23:17,280 --> 02:23:17,840
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna go.

3041
02:23:18,920 --> 02:23:20,600
Speaker 5: I'm about to get that one right now.

3042
02:23:20,840 --> 02:23:25,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, two hr professors of professionals and a comedian and

3043
02:23:25,320 --> 02:23:27,800
Speaker 2: they all talk about work stuff and jokes.

3044
02:23:28,120 --> 02:23:30,879
Speaker 1: Three Black Geeks podcasts. We met them.

3045
02:23:31,720 --> 02:23:36,280
Speaker 2: We met them at Negro Con. Uh therapy for Black Girls.

3046
02:23:36,760 --> 02:23:39,840
Speaker 2: Everyone knows this one. I feel like, you know, two

3047
02:23:39,920 --> 02:23:40,640
Speaker 2: do queens?

3048
02:23:43,200 --> 02:23:45,640
Speaker 1: Are they still doing shows? Who knows? You said?

3049
02:23:46,760 --> 02:23:48,879
Speaker 4: F f c K.

3050
02:23:50,440 --> 02:23:53,640
Speaker 1: Work, But I'm gonna go, thank you, no problem.

3051
02:23:54,480 --> 02:23:58,800
Speaker 2: Reveal, Oh that's a great podcast, The Revealed podcast. They

3052
02:23:58,920 --> 02:24:02,160
Speaker 2: talk about race all stuff. Andy Kline put me onto

3053
02:24:02,200 --> 02:24:05,520
Speaker 2: that one. And then lastly us the Blackout Tips. And

3054
02:24:05,640 --> 02:24:08,120
Speaker 2: I think they kind of copied and paste from this

3055
02:24:08,560 --> 02:24:11,480
Speaker 2: other thing that I think they did. If not, whoever

3056
02:24:11,560 --> 02:24:13,640
Speaker 2: wrote this is a big fan of the show because

3057
02:24:13,640 --> 02:24:19,760
Speaker 2: they even knew to call me different names throughout the things. Yeah,

3058
02:24:19,840 --> 02:24:26,160
Speaker 2: I think TV troupes had something like written about us.

3059
02:24:27,840 --> 02:24:28,040
Speaker 4: Like this.

3060
02:24:28,320 --> 02:24:30,240
Speaker 2: Let me see if this is the same thing. I

3061
02:24:30,320 --> 02:24:32,320
Speaker 2: forgot to check this out to see if they just

3062
02:24:32,400 --> 02:24:33,160
Speaker 2: copied and pasted.

3063
02:24:35,560 --> 02:24:39,000
Speaker 1: But uh, let's see.

3064
02:24:40,640 --> 02:24:43,680
Speaker 2: Now that first of all, someone has updated this. This

3065
02:24:43,760 --> 02:24:48,320
Speaker 2: is long as ship, but nah no, they didn't copy

3066
02:24:48,320 --> 02:24:50,600
Speaker 2: and paste. So I guess a real fan fucking wrote

3067
02:24:50,920 --> 02:24:54,800
Speaker 2: this recap thing because they was they called.

3068
02:24:54,600 --> 02:25:01,600
Speaker 1: Me Rod, did Rodney and Ron so? Or they could

3069
02:25:01,760 --> 02:25:02,680
Speaker 1: just be terrible at.

3070
02:25:02,640 --> 02:25:05,039
Speaker 2: Their job and just they thought they were saying Rod.

3071
02:25:05,080 --> 02:25:06,160
Speaker 1: But it seems on purpose.

3072
02:25:06,440 --> 02:25:07,960
Speaker 5: I think it's on purpose to because I read that

3073
02:25:08,000 --> 02:25:08,720
Speaker 5: when it's on purpose.

3074
02:25:08,959 --> 02:25:10,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, So that was cool man.

3075
02:25:13,360 --> 02:25:14,680
Speaker 2: A matter of fact, I'll read some of this on

3076
02:25:14,840 --> 02:25:17,760
Speaker 2: the news, video games, entertainment news, crazy stories of all.

3077
02:25:17,840 --> 02:25:19,560
Speaker 2: On the agenda for the blackout test is Rod and

3078
02:25:19,680 --> 02:25:22,800
Speaker 2: Garon present their daily podcast. The humorous name is a

3079
02:25:22,800 --> 02:25:26,000
Speaker 2: carryover from the MySpace block that Robert once had, and

3080
02:25:26,120 --> 02:25:29,000
Speaker 2: it was retained because it still strikes him as funny.

3081
02:25:29,040 --> 02:25:32,160
Speaker 2: The pair covers serious topics like racism and other atrocities,

3082
02:25:32,240 --> 02:25:35,000
Speaker 2: but as Rod says, We're never gonna let it break us.

3083
02:25:35,160 --> 02:25:38,560
Speaker 2: The host, Rodney and Karen Morrow, are forty years forty

3084
02:25:38,600 --> 02:25:41,920
Speaker 2: something years old, married couple from Charlotte and See who

3085
02:25:41,920 --> 02:25:44,400
Speaker 2: are produced over nineteen hundred episodes of their award winning

3086
02:25:44,480 --> 02:25:46,840
Speaker 2: podcast that is on the top one hundred comedy podcast

3087
02:25:46,920 --> 02:25:49,640
Speaker 2: on Stitcher and it's the number one comedy show on Potomatic.

3088
02:25:49,920 --> 02:25:52,000
Speaker 2: They started doing the podcast as a full time gig

3089
02:25:52,080 --> 02:25:55,840
Speaker 2: after Robert lost his job. They credit they credit to

3090
02:25:55,920 --> 02:25:58,560
Speaker 2: their long term success to hard work and frequency. Each

3091
02:25:58,640 --> 02:26:01,360
Speaker 2: episode can exceed two hours and length. In addition to

3092
02:26:01,400 --> 02:26:03,640
Speaker 2: their busy podcasts and schedule, they are frequent guests on

3093
02:26:03,720 --> 02:26:06,199
Speaker 2: other podcasts and internet shows such as Weslom forty Acres,

3094
02:26:06,240 --> 02:26:09,360
Speaker 2: Making Podcasts Great Again, The Evening Jones and Sandy Check.

3095
02:26:09,240 --> 02:26:10,000
Speaker 1: And Three Guys On.

3096
02:26:10,760 --> 02:26:13,840
Speaker 2: They contribute to podcasting panels and have even held their

3097
02:26:13,879 --> 02:26:17,280
Speaker 2: own podcasting event. The guests Rod and Karen are joined

3098
02:26:17,280 --> 02:26:20,039
Speaker 2: by frequent guests who added to add to the discussion.

3099
02:26:20,160 --> 02:26:22,080
Speaker 2: Some of the past gusts have included Nick and Reggie

3100
02:26:22,120 --> 02:26:24,800
Speaker 2: of the We's the Tea Podcast, Jamel Hill, podcaster is

3101
02:26:24,840 --> 02:26:27,240
Speaker 2: Keith and Hilda from Keith and the Girl, journalist, comedian,

3102
02:26:27,280 --> 02:26:30,360
Speaker 2: activist Elon James White, comedian Roywood, junior adult film star

3103
02:26:30,440 --> 02:26:33,320
Speaker 2: Sarah jay Is being contributed to Bomanti Jones, rapper singer

3104
02:26:33,360 --> 02:26:37,760
Speaker 2: Fante Coleman, comedian writer Ray Sony, comedian Jamail Janelle James,

3105
02:26:37,840 --> 02:26:41,240
Speaker 2: poet author Bossi Ichbi and EBA shooting guard Anthony Marrol,

3106
02:26:41,280 --> 02:26:44,800
Speaker 2: among others. While you have to listen, Ron and Karen

3107
02:26:45,240 --> 02:26:48,520
Speaker 2: together sys together since they were sixteen, genuinely love and

3108
02:26:48,560 --> 02:26:51,400
Speaker 2: care for each other, which makes their conversation real, lively

3109
02:26:51,480 --> 02:26:54,320
Speaker 2: and engaging. They don't spend much time talking about their relationship,

3110
02:26:54,600 --> 02:26:57,240
Speaker 2: but it is clear that they have. They are best

3111
02:26:57,280 --> 02:27:00,000
Speaker 2: friends who respect and enjoy each other. They are Christians,

3112
02:27:00,120 --> 02:27:03,200
Speaker 2: but don't preach as they deliver. Maybe one of us,

3113
02:27:03,520 --> 02:27:07,240
Speaker 2: but don't don't reach as they deliver. An amusing presentation

3114
02:27:07,480 --> 02:27:11,160
Speaker 2: lays with profanity and racial advertats that emphasizes the importance

3115
02:27:11,200 --> 02:27:13,640
Speaker 2: and find the joy in life. The conversations all love

3116
02:27:13,720 --> 02:27:16,120
Speaker 2: it with black culture references that make their broadcast relevant

3117
02:27:16,160 --> 02:27:18,880
Speaker 2: to an ethnic audience and interesting that anyone recepted to

3118
02:27:18,920 --> 02:27:20,560
Speaker 2: hear in great comedy and different perspectives.

3119
02:27:21,480 --> 02:27:23,400
Speaker 1: And then it suggested some people listening.

3120
02:27:23,160 --> 02:27:26,600
Speaker 2: To certain episodes twenty one eleven, but then a Republican

3121
02:27:26,959 --> 02:27:28,480
Speaker 2: twenty one O nine The Doors of the Church of

3122
02:27:28,520 --> 02:27:32,119
Speaker 2: Closed and twenty one oh two gunporn goring prom gun prompt.

3123
02:27:32,720 --> 02:27:34,240
Speaker 5: That's a gun point. I would say, well, I can

3124
02:27:34,280 --> 02:27:35,520
Speaker 5: still it's coming up with a name like that.

3125
02:27:35,720 --> 02:27:38,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, these six podcasts have used then they kind of

3126
02:27:38,760 --> 02:27:41,880
Speaker 2: cap it up. So yeah, like that's cool, you know

3127
02:27:41,879 --> 02:27:44,360
Speaker 2: what I mean. So thank you for them for writing

3128
02:27:44,400 --> 02:27:46,600
Speaker 2: about us, and know we'll make sure to put those

3129
02:27:46,640 --> 02:27:50,080
Speaker 2: links in the show notes for everybody. And tomorrow morning,

3130
02:27:50,360 --> 02:27:55,800
Speaker 2: I believe at ten am, we're gonna have Vernon and

3131
02:27:56,080 --> 02:28:01,320
Speaker 2: Corey from the band Living Color on as our guest

3132
02:28:01,800 --> 02:28:03,720
Speaker 2: and it's gonna be a good time.

3133
02:28:03,879 --> 02:28:04,039
Speaker 5: Man.

3134
02:28:04,480 --> 02:28:04,640
Speaker 1: You know.

3135
02:28:04,760 --> 02:28:07,800
Speaker 2: They they're big fans of the show and they're funny

3136
02:28:08,360 --> 02:28:11,920
Speaker 2: and you know, all that good stuff.

3137
02:28:12,000 --> 02:28:15,360
Speaker 1: So I'll see. I forget to make the Google calendar

3138
02:28:15,400 --> 02:28:18,640
Speaker 1: alert for it, but I will figure that out. Okay, yes, sir,

3139
02:28:18,959 --> 02:28:19,760
Speaker 1: that's gonna happen.

3140
02:28:20,160 --> 02:28:21,200
Speaker 5: That is on me.

3141
02:28:22,520 --> 02:28:26,920
Speaker 1: But yes, that's it for today. Thank you guys for listening.

3142
02:28:27,560 --> 02:28:31,880
Speaker 1: We appreciate it. Yeah, ten am Sunday, yep, yep, So

3143
02:28:31,920 --> 02:28:32,280
Speaker 1: we're good.

3144
02:28:32,320 --> 02:28:34,120
Speaker 2: Yep, We're gonna do it tomorrow. I'll make sure to

3145
02:28:34,160 --> 02:28:36,640
Speaker 2: send them the invite tonight. All right, y'all, see you

3146
02:28:36,680 --> 02:28:38,920
Speaker 2: guys in the morning. For those who listen live and

3147
02:28:39,400 --> 02:28:42,080
Speaker 2: listen later and stuff, we'll see you listen to us

3148
02:28:42,120 --> 02:28:45,160
Speaker 2: whenever you do, until next time, I love you, wh