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Speaker 1: Welcome to Colts Roundtable Live on ninety three five and

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Speaker 1: We're talking cold San recapping the action sixty two yards now.

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Speaker 1: Here's the voice of the Colts, Matt Taylor. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: with you until six thirty tonight. Come into you a

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Speaker 1: little bit earlier than normal. The Pacers take over the

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Speaker 1: airwaves at six thirty tonight. Colts came up short on Sunday,

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Speaker 1: falling to the Titans nineteen to ten as they dropped

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Speaker 1: to three three and one on the season. Indianapolis is

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Speaker 1: now in second place in the AFC South after suffering

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Speaker 1: their fifth straight loss to the Titans. If you watched

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Speaker 1: or listen to the game, you know how much of

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Speaker 1: a frustrating afternoon it was for the Colts. The Titans

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Speaker 1: led thirteen to nothing and a half time and They

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Speaker 1: They forced the Colts in the mistakes, they grinded out

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Speaker 1: over themselves all but one time. The Colts had three

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Speaker 1: turnovers on Sunday, a lost fumble and two interceptions, one

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Speaker 1: that was returned seventy six yards for a touchdown. That

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Speaker 1: The Colts defense was great for most of the game.

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Speaker 1: The Titans, who had been efficiency percentage wise, the best

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Speaker 1: team in the red zone coming into the game, they

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Speaker 1: were shut out in the red area on Sunday. The

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Speaker 1: Colts defense held the Titans to just one hundred and

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Speaker 1: sixteen net passing yards. That marks the third time this

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Speaker 1: season the Colts limited a team to less than one

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Speaker 1: hundred and forty net passing yards. But give credit to

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Speaker 1: the Titans. They made key plays on third downs and

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Speaker 1: Derrick Henry wore the Colts down of the second half

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Speaker 1: defensive play, the other bright spots on the team included

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Speaker 1: defensive tackle having a monster season as well. In Tennessee,

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Speaker 1: he piled up twelve tackles, which are a career high

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Speaker 1: least nineteen ninety four. Forty percent of the Colts season

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Speaker 1: is in the books and they're certainly not where they

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Speaker 1: want to be. They only have one more AFC South

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Speaker 1: game the rest of the season that doesn't come into

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Speaker 1: Week ten against the Houston Texans. Then the Colts are

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Speaker 1: Ten games left and the Colts need to go on

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Speaker 1: a serious run to get back into playoff contention. Big

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Speaker 1: news of the day the switch at quarterback. I'm sure

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Speaker 1: you've heard by now. Sam Ellinger will take over as

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Speaker 1: on Sunday in week eight. Frank Reich said today the

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Speaker 1: plan is for Ellinger to play the rest of the season,

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Speaker 1: Frank said that that injury did not factor into this decision.

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Speaker 1: Coming up, we'll talk about that in full detail with

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Speaker 1: former Colts Rick Venturi and Joe Wrights. They'll join me

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Speaker 1: starting on the next segment. And we're also taking your

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Speaker 1: questions in using hashtag Colts Roundtable, and again, as he

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Speaker 1: And we all know the turnovers are particularly on the quarterback,

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Speaker 1: for this audience, what went into that decision? How did

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Speaker 1: you arrive at that change? A hard decision, right, ultimate

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Speaker 1: respect for Matt Ryan, the career that he's had, what

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Speaker 1: And you know I made it clear that this is

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Speaker 1: But we understand, right, we understand that. You know, as

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Speaker 1: And how's Matt feeling in terms of physicality? You know

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Speaker 1: goes into changing the offense? Tweaking the offense now with

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Speaker 1: every year we've had a new quarterback, which is insane, right,

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Speaker 1: with the big news Sam Ellinger taken over as the

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Speaker 1: fan questions. Now, most of these were submit before that

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Speaker 1: in the sixth round. He was a star in college,

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Speaker 1: he was a star in the preseason. Generally, if you're

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Speaker 1: a star and you kind of have that it factor,

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Speaker 1: which I think that's what you hear guys talk about

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Speaker 1: he has that it factor, he's got that magic, he's

434
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Speaker 1: got that twinkle in his eye. Yeah, he might not

435
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Speaker 1: be there with all the measurables in terms of size, etc.

436
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Speaker 1: But Coach, we know this. His arm strength looked completely

437
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Speaker 1: different this year. You and I saw that up close

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Speaker 1: in the preseason. So I'm excited for this kid, and

439
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Speaker 1: I'm excited. I think it's advantageous the time you are

440
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Speaker 1: making the switch in terms of a Washington team with

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Speaker 1: their own backup quarterback. You're at home, so you don't

442
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Speaker 1: have to deal with crowd noise. There's a big difference

443
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Speaker 1: in throwing the keys to a young player when you're

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Speaker 1: a quarterback at home in a very winnable game versus

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Speaker 1: you know, going on the road and playing in New England.

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Speaker 1: You know, if that makes sense. So Coach, what are

447
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Speaker 1: your thoughts? Yeah, you know, I think it's stunning in

448
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Speaker 1: one sense in the fact that when we when we

449
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Speaker 1: traded for Matt Ryan in the offseason, I doubt that

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Speaker 1: there was anyone in town that wasn't elated about it

451
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Speaker 1: and didn't have a great sense of optimism and belief

452
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Speaker 1: and where we were going to go. I think, you know,

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Speaker 1: I think his performance because of that, and it's not

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Speaker 1: all on him. We can talk about some other things

455
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Speaker 1: as we go, but his performance with the turnovers especially

456
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Speaker 1: um has been a humongous disappointment, maybe the most disappointing

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Speaker 1: factor of the season. So it's not totally surprising. And

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Speaker 1: I really think that at three to three and one,

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Speaker 1: there's still a ton of football to play. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you've got ten games to play. Nobody's gonna run away

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Speaker 1: with the South. Even though our South record isn't any good.

462
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Speaker 1: Just remember that your overall record still wins or loses

463
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Speaker 1: the division. I mean, it's it's not about tiebreakers if

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Speaker 1: you can at the end of the year pack enough

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Speaker 1: wins together to get it done. And so the move

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Speaker 1: to Ellinger I think does several things for you. I

467
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Speaker 1: am an unabashed fan of Ellinger. I was literally campaigning

468
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Speaker 1: overtly and covertly for him to make the roster this summer.

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Speaker 1: I was more than willing to take three quarterbacks and

470
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Speaker 1: stay with him. I thought he absolutely deserved it. But

471
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Speaker 1: I think that he can help us in many ways,

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Speaker 1: and Joe hid it number one. I think he'll take

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Speaker 1: care of the football. I think he has a reputation

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Speaker 1: of that. I think if we do nothing more than that,

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Speaker 1: we'll be a better football team. But I also think

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Speaker 1: that the things that are killing us right now, you know, obviously,

477
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Speaker 1: are the turnovers, the inability to run the ball consistently,

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Speaker 1: and pass protection. Those three things are just you know,

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Speaker 1: other than the one game against Jacksonville, it's really abysmal

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Speaker 1: when you look at all the numbers as they've mounted

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Speaker 1: up over seven weeks. So, you know, I think in

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Speaker 1: one sense, and we can get into this as we

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Speaker 1: go on, we're going to talk a little bit about

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Speaker 1: what he brings in what he doesn't. But he will

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Speaker 1: have an effect on the running game. I believe. Number one,

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Speaker 1: he can make the running game better, and I'll talk

487
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Speaker 1: about that later in the podcast, because I think he

488
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Speaker 1: will add gaps to the defense. Number Two, I think

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Speaker 1: he has the escapability. I mean, and you know, with

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Speaker 1: the way that we're protecting right now, we've got to

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Speaker 1: have a guy that can move. We've got to have

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Speaker 1: a guy that can escape, that can get out out

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Speaker 1: of trouble. And he has the ability to escape and

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Speaker 1: to make big plays with it. And then I just

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Speaker 1: think he also gives you the designer runs, you know,

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Speaker 1: kind of some of the things that Tannehill. Tannehill had

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Speaker 1: a critical zone read for a ten yard gain in

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Speaker 1: this game. And then I do believe that he does

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Speaker 1: have and Joe used the it factor. There is a

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Speaker 1: charisma about him. There is something about him that you

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Speaker 1: feel like he energizes the game. And I really think,

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Speaker 1: you know, people ask, well, why are you doing this now?

503
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Speaker 1: I think you're doing it to save this season. I

504
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Speaker 1: think you've made up your mind at forever reason. Matt

505
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Speaker 1: Ryan isn't the fit here right now, and so you know,

506
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Speaker 1: let's get somebody who we kind of believe in. He's

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Speaker 1: going to inject juice into the into the situation. I mean,

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Speaker 1: anytime you make a change, there's gonna be new juice.

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Speaker 1: But you know, in the end, he's going to have

510
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Speaker 1: to perform. I mean, the only way you're going to

511
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Speaker 1: win it over is to perform. But you know, I

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Speaker 1: see this as an attempt to save the season at

513
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Speaker 1: three and three and one with plenty of games to play,

514
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Speaker 1: no question, And coach, I want to add on something

515
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Speaker 1: you talked about the pass protection. We've had issues. Clearly

516
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Speaker 1: we haven't helped Matt Ryan, but one thing, and you

517
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Speaker 1: know this too. You know Matt Ryan is not an

518
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Speaker 1: escape to get outside the pocket and really be a

519
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Speaker 1: threat on the edge. So what are teams doing. They're

520
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Speaker 1: not being as disciplined in their pass rush, meaning they're

521
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Speaker 1: sending three and four guys inside and they're not having

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Speaker 1: that gap discipline because they're betting, Hey, even if we

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Speaker 1: give a lane outside and this defensive end goes inside,

524
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Speaker 1: or we run some sort of pickstunt, we're betting Matt

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Speaker 1: Ryan's not going to break contain and run around the

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Speaker 1: edge all of a sudden. With Sam Elgar, that's something different.

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Speaker 1: You have four or five guys up the middle, he

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Speaker 1: breaks out boots right and nobody's there. He'll take it

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Speaker 1: and run with it for fifteen or twenty or you know,

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Speaker 1: maybe you chuck it downfield over their head. And so

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Speaker 1: I think you mentioned he'll be better in the run game,

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Speaker 1: and I would agree, because he's an extra runner you

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Speaker 1: have to account for. We probably can go back to

534
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Speaker 1: some more under center things with you know, Jonathan Taylor

535
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Speaker 1: and some runs, some design runs, some bootlegs, but also

536
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Speaker 1: in the pass game, while he doesn't give you what

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Speaker 1: Matt Ryan gives you in terms of um. You know,

538
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Speaker 1: as all of his experience throwing the ball around, command

539
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Speaker 1: of the offense, he will give you some different plays

540
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Speaker 1: in the pass game. We might have some bigger plays

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Speaker 1: because he'll be able to run around there, back there

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Speaker 1: in the pocket. Yeah, you know, and when I you know,

543
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Speaker 1: when I looked at him, I would not a year ago.

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Speaker 1: Let's say that we were in this same situation. A

545
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Speaker 1: year ago, I would have never I would have never

546
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Speaker 1: advocated this move. But there was a big difference in

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Speaker 1: uh Sam this summer, you know, the the off season

548
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Speaker 1: heat that he spent with the you know, with the quarterback,

549
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Speaker 1: with the throwing garou. He came back and his arm

550
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Speaker 1: was substantially better. I mean, he could throw the second level.

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Speaker 1: As a rookie, I never saw him, even in practice,

552
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Speaker 1: be able to throw the second level, the digs, the comebacks,

553
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Speaker 1: the thing that you have to make a living in

554
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 1: critical downs. This summer, I saw that I saw that

555
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Speaker 1: ball come out of his hand, totally different, slightly quicker release.

556
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Speaker 1: I thought the ball really did come out of his hand.

557
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Speaker 1: And so I believe that, you know, I've always felt that,

558
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Speaker 1: you know, don't ever tell me that a quarterback manages

559
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Speaker 1: the game because in the NFL, a quarterback has to

560
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Speaker 1: make between eight and eighteen throws a game into tight windows,

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Speaker 1: depending on the game, depending on the type of game,

562
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Speaker 1: depending on the defense, and so no matter who you are,

563
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Speaker 1: no matter how good an athlete you are, you are

564
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Speaker 1: going to have to deliver from the pocket at a

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Speaker 1: certain time. And that's why I feel so much better

566
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Speaker 1: about him this year than I did a year ago

567
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 1: now the way that I think that he helps our

568
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Speaker 1: running game, and I think we've made a huge mistake

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Speaker 1: here franchise wise. I think it's it borders on coaching

570
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Speaker 1: and personnel malpractice, to be honest with you, to not

571
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Speaker 1: carry a fullback or a hybrid tight end in your

572
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Speaker 1: offense in your running game today, the way the defenses

573
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:15,199
Speaker 1: are being played with the under and the heavy double

574
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Speaker 1: sink without carrying a lead blocker. And you saw when

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Speaker 1: they had to have it when Tennessee has to have

576
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Speaker 1: it and they lost their fullback before the game, but

577
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Speaker 1: they use two different guys as a fullback in this

578
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,480
Speaker 1: game when they had to run it, and we knew

579
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Speaker 1: they had to run it, they could run the league plays, well,

580
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,639
Speaker 1: we don't have that, and we're not going to get it.

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Speaker 1: So we're a Vanella's zone running team that is getting

582
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 1: stuffed that week after week. Now, what a running quarterback

583
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Speaker 1: does for you, much like the Saturday the NCAA game,

584
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Speaker 1: is that he adds a gap to either side. So

585
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Speaker 1: if your ends are closing really really hard and you're

586
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Speaker 1: jam and eight in the box, he has the ability

587
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 1: to pull it we call it right and decide on

588
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 1: those zone read principal plays. He has the ability to

589
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 1: take it out there and go and as Joe said,

590
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Speaker 1: you can move the pocket with him. He can not

591
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 1: only escape, but you can move it with bootleg, with rollouts.

592
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Speaker 1: So it's very hard to pack all those inside four

593
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 1: games and all the things that are killing us right now,

594
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Speaker 1: because that launch point is going to change with him,

595
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 1: There's no question about that. So there is an addition

596
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 1: to your offense. So that's why I wanted him on

597
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 1: the team. And that's why I was really happy Matt

598
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 1: when he got elevated to number two, because I felt,

599
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Speaker 1: at least on the travel team now he had a

600
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 1: chance to go in and do some of that stuff. Well,

601
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 1: now now he'll have a chance to do it from

602
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 1: the beginning to the end. I want to go back

603
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 1: to something that you said, and Joe you can comment

604
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 1: on it as well. But but Rick, you said, this

605
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 1: is a move to in your eyes, you think this

606
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 1: can help salvage the season or save the season. Obviously,

607
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 1: when a move of this magnitude is made going from

608
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Speaker 1: a guy that has and I know Matt Ryan has struggled,

609
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 1: but a guy that's had fifteen years in the NFL

610
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Speaker 1: compared to a guy that's going to be making his

611
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:13,720
Speaker 1: first NFL start on Sunday, there's a section of the

612
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 1: fan base that and I'm just playing Devil's advocate here,

613
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Speaker 1: but there's a sect I know what you're going to say,

614
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Speaker 1: as a section of the fan base that says, well,

615
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Speaker 1: with that loss to Tennessee, you know that the season's

616
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 1: over and this is a move just to see what

617
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Speaker 1: you got a quarterback. What do you say to those

618
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Speaker 1: people that think this is kind of a throwaway at

619
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Speaker 1: this point, Well, in many respects, that's why I led

620
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Speaker 1: the way I led. I normally speak with a purpose.

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Speaker 1: You know, I definitely feel like that at this point

622
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Speaker 1: in time. The way our team is structured, lack of

623
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Speaker 1: a running game, and which allows people in second and

624
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 1: ten and third and ten to bring the house every

625
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:51,560
Speaker 1: time Tennessee blitz. They killed us. They just killed us Sunday,

626
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 1: and so I think basically what the decision is is,

627
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 1: we can't go anywhere. We're not going to get any

628
00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:00,320
Speaker 1: better with Matt and they're regardless of history, and it's

629
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 1: all about now. So if we're going to salvage this thing,

630
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 1: we've got to change some things. We've got to get

631
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 1: somebody in there that can not only just emotionally jold us,

632
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:12,719
Speaker 1: but give us some other things that we need to

633
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 1: get us out of this jam. I think that's critical.

634
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 1: And I don't believe the season is over. You know,

635
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 1: do we look bad in the South right now? But again,

636
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 1: as I said earlier, we have ten games left and

637
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 1: Tennessee is not going to run around. They're another sprained ankle,

638
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 1: they lose Tannehill, it's over. They're done. Okay, They're finished,

639
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 1: So they're not going to run away with it. So

640
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 1: at the end of the game, we just have to

641
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,720
Speaker 1: pack wins. And at this point you just pack wins

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Speaker 1: by winning one in a row, one in a row.

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Speaker 1: The packing of the wins is beating the Commanders this week.

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Speaker 1: But I think the move is to give us the

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Speaker 1: best chance to go forward. I do not see it

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Speaker 1: as panking at all. I really don't. And you know

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Speaker 1: that's maybe that's just me. Maybe I'm selling myself on that,

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Speaker 1: but that's that's exactly how I'm looking at it. As

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Speaker 1: a coaches, I've got to find a way to change

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Speaker 1: this well, and coach, I agree with you one hundred percent.

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Speaker 1: We always would talk about our guys playing winning football

652
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Speaker 1: and winning football generally, that's the easiest metric to evaluate

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Speaker 1: the NFL. Basically, did I play well enough that I

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Speaker 1: helped my team win? And you know, as an offensive linement,

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Speaker 1: you're not going to beat the defensive end all sixty snaps,

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Speaker 1: but if you do it fifty out of sixty and

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Speaker 1: you don't give up any sacks, you know, at the

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Speaker 1: end of the day, coach Graja plus minus, you know, hey,

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Speaker 1: you played winning football today. Nice job. Let's move on

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Speaker 1: to the next one. And if you look at Matt Ryan,

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Speaker 1: you know, is he playing winning football? Is he helping

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Speaker 1: us neutral or hurting this team? And I would argue

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Speaker 1: hurting with the turnovers. And so now you bring in

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Speaker 1: a new dimension, a new offense, we can get our

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Speaker 1: running game back up Jonathan Taylor has not looked like

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Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor through the first seven games. I understand that's

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Speaker 1: because of you know, he missed a couple of games

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Speaker 1: with injury, but in reality, we've been so far behind

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Speaker 1: the eight ball. We've been down, you know, double digits,

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Speaker 1: it seems like, in every game, and then we're fighting

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Speaker 1: like crazy to try to get back, and we're throwing

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Speaker 1: the ball over the place versus you know, a team Hey,

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Speaker 1: control the ball, run the ball, grind the clock. Our

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Speaker 1: defense has really played, you know, I'm gonna say outstanding

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Speaker 1: throughout the year. You know, yesterday we had some issues

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Speaker 1: with Hawk, you know, and he's been good in the

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Speaker 1: special teams operation. But I'm with coach Tennessee. You mentioned Tanno.

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Speaker 1: If he goes down, if Henry goes down. I know

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Speaker 1: they're four and two. There's a lot of football left.

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Speaker 1: But they got eleven games left, and they got to

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Speaker 1: play the NFC East, just like the Colts have to

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Speaker 1: play the NFC East, and they got to play the

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Speaker 1: AFC West, just like the Colts have to play the

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Speaker 1: AFC West. Now, positivity, the Colts are two and o

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Speaker 1: versus the West. We haven't done it in the division,

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Speaker 1: but keep an eye on it. And I don't want

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Speaker 1: to go too far ahead, because to coach's point, all

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Speaker 1: that matters is win one game. Just win the darn

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Speaker 1: games Sunday, and then you'll worry about the next game,

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Speaker 1: the next game. But keep in mind this tie too,

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Speaker 1: because this tie all of a sudden comes back, and

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Speaker 1: you know, Tennessee's nine and eight and we're nine to

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Speaker 1: seven and one, or we get to ten six and

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Speaker 1: one and they're ten and seven. You know, that tiebreaker.

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Speaker 1: To his point, they have a two game lead on

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Speaker 1: the vision of Tiebrigger, but that tie really no falls

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00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 1: that tie Brigger. Again, there's a lot of football left

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Speaker 1: to be played. But if you're asking me, do I

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Speaker 1: feel good about our chances to beat Washington with Ellinger?

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Speaker 1: Heck yeah, you know. And they're playing you know, Hennikey,

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Speaker 1: and I know they had to win. But you just

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00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 1: look around all these games we've won or sorry lost,

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00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 1: we could have won if we didn't turn the ball over.

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Speaker 1: And that to me is just number one. With Sam Ellinger,

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Speaker 1: you're coaching them up, you're carrying the city, you're carrying

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Speaker 1: the state in you with this football. Let's not turn

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Speaker 1: it over. Let's put ourselves in advantageous positions and let's

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Speaker 1: see what happens and roll it out here with number four.

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Speaker 1: Let's go back to the quarterback conversation. Wendell is asking Joe,

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Speaker 1: you're up first on this one. If Sam Ellinger lights

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Speaker 1: it up the rest of the season, hypothetically, obviously, does

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Speaker 1: that change our need to get the quarterback of the

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Speaker 1: future in the draft this upcoming April. I'd say definitely.

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Speaker 1: And I think it was interesting to me Frank obviously

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Speaker 1: you think you do think that changes things? Yeah, because

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Speaker 1: I think Matt Ryan, you know, he said he's not

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Speaker 1: going to play this week. But it was interesting Frank said,

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Speaker 1: you know, this is a decision for the rest of

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Speaker 1: the season, and so now there's a ten game sample size,

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Speaker 1: So what if the Colts goes seven and three their

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Speaker 1: last ten and you're in the playoffs, or you win

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Speaker 1: the division right now all of a sudden, and this

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Speaker 1: guy's playing well, I mean, for sure it can change.

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Speaker 1: And I think that's the one thing that you asked

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Speaker 1: me at the beginning. Are you surprised about this decision?

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Speaker 1: I said mildly, because the one thing I know in

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Speaker 1: the NFL, and coach knows that it moves at a

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Speaker 1: fast pace. And it doesn't matter what she did last week,

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Speaker 1: last last month, last year. Everything is generally on the table.

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00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:58,319
Speaker 1: It's the great meritocracy. As Andrew Luck would say, right,

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00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:00,200
Speaker 1: all that matters is can you play and how you do?

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Speaker 1: So I'm excited for this kid. He's got a blank

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Speaker 1: slate and he's got ten games to work with. Let's

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Speaker 1: go out there and see what happens. But if he

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Speaker 1: plays well, absolutely I think that changes what you'll do

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Speaker 1: in the draft. Let's hope that he plays lights out.

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Speaker 1: If if he goes on and plays lights out and

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Speaker 1: get us to the gets us into the playoffs, gets

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Speaker 1: us into the promised Land, so to speak, then this

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Speaker 1: discussion would be a moot point, it really would, you know.

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Speaker 1: But on the other side, Let's let's say it's the

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Speaker 1: worst scenario. Let's say that and I don't believe this

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Speaker 1: for a minute that this is who this team is.

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Speaker 1: I think we're better than this. And maybe I've sold

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Speaker 1: myself on this with my coaching demons that live in me.

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Speaker 1: But uh, you know, let's say that it doesn't work out.

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Speaker 1: Let's say that it becomes status quo. Then for once

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Speaker 1: and for all, we're going to certainly know who Sam

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Speaker 1: Ellinger is at the end of the you know, at

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Speaker 1: the end of this season, Joe, we're going to either

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Speaker 1: really be pleasantly surprised or we're gonna have a lottery

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Speaker 1: a quarterback period. Yeah, you'll have an answer. I think

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00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,239
Speaker 1: a good answer, a good sample size, as you said,

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Speaker 1: ten games to know what you got and who you

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Speaker 1: got at quarterback. There with Sam Ellinger after a three,

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Speaker 1: three and one starts stay right there. Rick Sean is

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Speaker 1: up next. He's asking, I know Matt Ryan hasn't played great,

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Speaker 1: but I feel like a move at quarterback now to

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Speaker 1: an unproven guy like Sam Ellinger is just wasting prime

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Speaker 1: years from DeForest Buckner, Jonathan Taylor and our other core superstars.

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Speaker 1: That that's not a question. That's an opinion. But it

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Speaker 1: kind of goes hand in hand with what you just

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Speaker 1: talked about in terms of you've got a good roster,

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Speaker 1: but you're also trying to figure out how you can

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Speaker 1: compliment that roster with you know, those all Pro players

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Speaker 1: and Pro Bowl players with stability at quarterback. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: you know that implies that we're taking you know, and

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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't believe this. I think we're trying

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Speaker 1: to find the solution. I think we're trying to get

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Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor more yards. If we have a quarterback who

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Speaker 1: can run a z own read, that opens up one

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Speaker 1: more hole for Jonathan Taylor. If we can get a

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Speaker 1: quarterback in there that can get us a lead. I mean,

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Speaker 1: the reason we're not getting any turnovers. Joe mentioned it

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Speaker 1: in another context earlier. The reason we're not going to

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Speaker 1: get any turnovers as we're playing from one, two, three

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Speaker 1: scores down all the time. And I know I coached

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Speaker 1: for forty one years. You're just not gonna get turnovers

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Speaker 1: when you're playing from two scores down because just like

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Speaker 1: Tennessee did Sunday, they just take the air out of it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the only mistake they made. They got too

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00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 1: cute on that speed sweep, but he wasn't hecked the

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Speaker 1: throw to Hooper that ended up being a big third

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Speaker 1: down conversion. He was just dumping it to get rid

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Speaker 1: of it, to punk the ball. So I mean, I

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Speaker 1: think a quarterback injection here that could make us better,

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00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:47,919
Speaker 1: you know, will make those guys better. Yeah, I would

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Speaker 1: agree with that. And you look at our run game

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Speaker 1: and you look at some of these guys like Taylor,

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00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 1: I think this is going to unlock him. I mean,

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Speaker 1: was Taylor better last year or this year? Year to

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Speaker 1: date through seven games? Defenitively last year. And there's a

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Speaker 1: lot of things that go into but a big one is,

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00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:03,240
Speaker 1: you know, Wentz was a threat to run with the ball,

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Speaker 1: and so you're running an RPO, you're running his own read.

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Speaker 1: All of a sudden, they have a defender that's got

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Speaker 1: to hesitate a little bit because Carson might pull and

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Speaker 1: get around the enge. That's going to be even more

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Speaker 1: with Ellinger, and teams are going to see a uniquely defense.

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Speaker 1: You know, you're Washington, you're Ron Rivera coming into this week.

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Speaker 1: What are you going to defend? What are you guys

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Speaker 1: going to do? And I think it's positive. Teams don't

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Speaker 1: have film on this guy, and so all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: what are you going to do week to week? It's

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Speaker 1: going to take probably a few weeks for maybe some

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Speaker 1: of these defensive coordinators to catch up. And that's an

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00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 1: advantage to the Colts coach. We always talk about it,

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Speaker 1: what are you going to do this game with these

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Speaker 1: players in this scheme to win the ball game? And

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Speaker 1: I truly believe that for Washington next week, the way

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Speaker 1: Matt Ryan's been playing and with his injury, we have

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Speaker 1: the best chance to win with Ellinger, And I think

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Speaker 1: that's the positive thing. And boy would be nice for

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Speaker 1: him to get one under his belt again, very winnable

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Speaker 1: game at home, get some really positive vibes for this

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Speaker 1: kid before you go off and play two more on

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Speaker 1: the road against some good teams in New England and Vegas.

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Speaker 1: And I thought, Matt and Joe that really and truly.

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Speaker 1: Now it was a snapshot, and I guess he was

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00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 1: on a pitch count. I gotta assume he was. But

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00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 1: I thought Jonathan was balling it. I thought he was

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00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 1: running so much better, even though the numbers at the

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Speaker 1: end of the game. But I still think he was

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Speaker 1: like five eight. I mean, he was running the ball

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Speaker 1: in limited and I did feel like that that was

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Speaker 1: a game we do we stay close. That that was

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Speaker 1: a game even though we came out quick tempo throw

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Speaker 1: and I think the run would have come to us

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Speaker 1: that in that game if we'd have kept going with Jonathan.

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Speaker 1: But obviously he sat down several series, and I think

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Speaker 1: it was because of the pitch count. But I think

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Speaker 1: that's really important as we go forward as well. Rick

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Speaker 1: vent Urry right there and Joe Wright's a part of

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Speaker 1: Colts Roundtable Live on ninety three five and one oh

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Speaker 1: seven five the Fan I Matt Taylor submit your questions

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Speaker 1: using hashtag Colts Roundtable on our mailbag segment that we

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Speaker 1: do every week here on the program. I want to

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Speaker 1: get to two more, but we got to go quick.

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Speaker 1: We're kind of up against it, so Joe, you go first.

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Speaker 1: This is coming from Nick's Paris Campbell proving to be

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Speaker 1: the receiver we thought all along he could be, minus

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Speaker 1: and the injuries. Joe, He's got seventeen catches and two

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Speaker 1: touchdowns in the last two games. What's interesting is he's

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Speaker 1: playing great and hats off to that kid who's overcome

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Speaker 1: a tum and diversity, but he's doing it in a

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Speaker 1: different way. I think we kind of thought he was

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Speaker 1: gonna be the home run guy over the top. He's

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Speaker 1: really possession receiver in between the hashes. I think that's

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Speaker 1: a credit to Pierce on the outside at that Zita position,

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Speaker 1: but really credit to Campbell redefining kind of his career

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Speaker 1: really emerging. I think we have three really solid wide

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Speaker 1: receivers to deal with. You got Ellener, you got the

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Speaker 1: running backs. We do need some more production of the

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Speaker 1: tight end position. But that does excite me here what

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Speaker 1: this offense can do back there with Ellener calling the shots.

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Speaker 1: And again kudos to Campbell for overcoming a lot to

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Speaker 1: get to that point, all right. And then Rick, this

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Speaker 1: is we talked about this earlier with Frank Reich on

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Speaker 1: segment number one, but this comes from John. He's asking

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Speaker 1: where has this been from Grover? I mean, Rick twelve

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Speaker 1: tackles by a defensive tackle in a game that's unreal.

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Speaker 1: He is playing tremendous, you know, And if the question

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Speaker 1: is he a Pro Bowl or what I'm saying, absolutely,

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Speaker 1: this guy is dominating games when he's in there. And

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Speaker 1: what's really improved with Grover is He always from the

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Speaker 1: very beginning was a run stuffer at the point. But

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Speaker 1: what he's unchained now is that athleticism that we saw

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Speaker 1: at Albany State. He was raw, but we saw the

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Speaker 1: athleticism when we looked at the tape. This guy can

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Speaker 1: run you down. There was a play Sunday he just

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Speaker 1: walled off the whole art right side. He just walled

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Speaker 1: it off and had a tackle for a loss. This

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Speaker 1: guy is tremendous and I'll tell you that respect people

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Speaker 1: are having for him. They're starting to run a lot

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Speaker 1: more place to Buckner. There's a lot more powers now

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Speaker 1: that are going to the three technique side than the

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Speaker 1: one technique side. And that is the ultimate compliment, no

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Speaker 1: doubt about that. Having a great year. Grover's Stewart Colts

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Speaker 1: we'll close out the show, we'll take a look at

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Speaker 1: the AFC South standings, and we'll also preview the game

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Speaker 1: on Sunday, the Commanders are in town for the first

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Speaker 1: time since twenty fourteen. You're listening to Colts Roundtable live

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Speaker 1: at the latest action with the Indianapolis Colts. For more

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Speaker 1: Colts Talk, here's Matt Taylor back for the final time

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Speaker 1: reminder get your forecast first on CBS four and get

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Speaker 1: or Google Play AFC South. After seven, the Titans are

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Speaker 1: four and two. They've had to buy the Colts in

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Speaker 1: second place three three and one, Jaguars two and four,

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Speaker 1: they've lost four in a row, and the Texans are

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Speaker 1: one in one down to close out with the closing arguments, Joe,

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Speaker 1: the floor is yours, your final thoughts and the Colts

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Speaker 1: Titans game and obviously Sam Ellinger now at quarterback and

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Speaker 1: look ahead to the challenge in week eight against the Commanders.

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Speaker 1: What he got to close out here? Disappointed with the

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Speaker 1: Titans game, but excited for the future, Excited to see

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Speaker 1: what Ellinger can do, Excited to see this ball club,

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Speaker 1: you know, hopefully win a game at Washington, get him

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Speaker 1: some positive vibes, and then all of a sudden, you know,

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Speaker 1: you got a nine game sprint to the headline. You

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Speaker 1: can get to four to three and one above five hundred,

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Speaker 1: kind of a a halfway point. That's what they need to do.

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Speaker 1: A very beatable Washington team. Give him a good week

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Speaker 1: of practice, and let's fire it up Sunday here at

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Speaker 1: four thirty. Yeah. Absolutely, this is a one game season.

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Speaker 1: That's how you look at it. The Commanders got well.

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Speaker 1: I think they're going to feel good about themselves. They

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Speaker 1: had the quarterback switch with heine Key, as Chase Young says,

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Speaker 1: but you know they're they're similar to the to Tennessee.

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Speaker 1: They're you know, they run the ball with three running backs.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna see Terry McLaren back here, local kid, really

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Speaker 1: top receiver for them. And one thing I'll just mention

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Speaker 1: as a sidebar, I think when Jonathan Allen plays and

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Speaker 1: we'll play against one another, but he and Grover Stewart

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Speaker 1: will probably be the two best nosed tackles in the

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Speaker 1: league this week, dueling one another there at Lucas Oil

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Speaker 1: should be a great matchup. And obviously the Colts are

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Speaker 1: interesting now with the new quarterback, Sam Ellinger is your

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Speaker 1: starting quarterback for the remainder of the season. That's the

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Speaker 1: plan by the Colts. We got to scoot tonight. I

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Speaker 1: want to thank everybody who joined the show and their

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Speaker 1: questions and comments. I want to thank head coach Frank

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Speaker 1: Riik back in segment number one, Rick Venturry and Joe

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Speaker 1: writes the rest of the way, and we've got you

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Speaker 1: covered on the Colts all week long, as we always

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Speaker 1: do with Colts Daily updates Tuesday through Thursday, the official

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Speaker 1: Colts podcast Tomorrow Inside Football with Rick with the Blueprints

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Speaker 1: to beat Washington that'll drop on Wednesday, and check all

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Speaker 1: Pacer Basketball, Next, Blue and Gold take on the Sixers,

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