1 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 1: Look at Our Radio is a radiophonic novela, which. 2 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:10,320 Speaker 2: Is just a very extra way of saying a podcast. 3 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:12,240 Speaker 1: I'm Fosa Fem. 4 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 2: And I am ma la Munios. We're podcasting through another 5 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:19,799 Speaker 2: Trump election year. We've been podcasting through election years, a 6 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 2: global pandemic, civic unrest, political controversies, the Me Too movement, 7 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 2: the rise of TikTok, and we are still here. We're 8 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:27,640 Speaker 2: not done telling stories. 9 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:32,240 Speaker 1: We're still making podcasts. We're older, we're wiser, We're even 10 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 1: podcasting through a new decade of our lives. 11 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 2: Since twenty sixteen, we've been making Loca thro Our Radio 12 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 2: independently until we joined iHeartMedia's Michael Gura Network in twenty 13 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:44,199 Speaker 2: twenty two. 14 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 1: From Our Lips to your Ears, Fall in Love with 15 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 1: Loka to a Radio like you never have before. 16 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 2: Welcome to Season nine. Love that first. 17 00:00:53,360 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 1: Listen Olao La Loka mod is. Welcome to season of 18 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 1: Lok a Dora Radio. I'm the Osa and I'm Mala 19 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 1: Loka Dora Radio is a podcast dedicated to archiving our 20 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 1: present and shifting the culture forward. You're tuning into Capitolo 21 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 1: Doo two nineteen. 22 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 2: Last time on Loca to Our Radio. We interviewed Aiden Castellanos, 23 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 2: the host of Susto, a podcast of uki spooky scary stories. 24 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:22,960 Speaker 2: For sure. 25 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 3: So one of the earlier ones that I remember that 26 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 3: isn't Lao Na, because I feel like that is the 27 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 3: like the go to right away for everyone. I tell people, 28 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 3: she's like the Beyonce of spirits, right, like everybody knows 29 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 3: who she is, everybody knows her story. But another one 30 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 3: that was really popular in my upbringing was the story 31 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 3: of the Girl who Downs at the Devil, and I think. 32 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 2: That was centered around the folklore of LATINX and Hispanic cultures. 33 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:47,559 Speaker 2: Tune into that episode. It's a good one. We learned 34 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 2: about a bunch of brand new horror stories that we 35 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 2: had never heard of before. We learn about why Aiden 36 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 2: calls himself a folklorist and more amazing. 37 00:01:57,920 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 1: One of my favorites ever, I say that each of 38 00:01:59,880 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 1: a but it's true. One of my favorites. 39 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 2: Aiden is very knowledgeable, very storage. 40 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 1: I love when I love meeting someone that is like 41 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 1: an expert in something that you're like kind of know 42 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 1: about and they're like they know a lot about it. 43 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 2: You know. 44 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 1: That's just always so fun. It's like you are so 45 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 1: well researched and well read, and you like love your 46 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 1: craft so much that you're just going to keep on 47 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 1: learning and super niche. 48 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 2: I love how In that episode, Aiden talks about the 49 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 2: legacy of ghost stories in the Rio Grande Valley specifically, 50 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 2: and that's sort of where he's drawing his inspiration from 51 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:36,239 Speaker 2: to pursue this type of research. 52 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:42,519 Speaker 1: Absolutely, it's very much folklore, scary horror at the intersection 53 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 1: of like she gotta studies, very fascina, which is probably 54 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 1: why we love it so much. 55 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 2: There you go, Okay, you got us weer nerds. 56 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 1: Tune in, tune in today. We're just we're answering some 57 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 1: oh you look ask questions. But before that we kind 58 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:00,919 Speaker 1: of just want to check in, catch up. We haven't 59 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 1: really had a chance to talk to our look amis 60 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 1: in a while, so let's just get started. 61 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:10,359 Speaker 2: Mala, what have you been up to the assie. You've 62 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 2: been busy as always. 63 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 1: It's been a very busy couple of weeks. It's been 64 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:17,920 Speaker 1: a busy year. It's been a busy couple of weeks. 65 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 1: It was just my birthday. That's a big one. I 66 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:25,640 Speaker 1: turned thirty one, which is wild. Not that I feel 67 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 1: old or anything. I just was talking about this with 68 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 1: my mom. And you know, when you're a kid or 69 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:33,919 Speaker 1: you hear stories right about like young girls that are 70 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 1: like when I'm twenty something, I'm going to be married 71 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 1: with babies and this and that, And I just never 72 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 1: saw my I never had that image of myself as 73 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 1: like an adult. And I don't know why. Maybe something 74 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 1: I need to talk about in therapy, who knows. But 75 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 1: and now it's like I'm fully in now officially in 76 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 1: my thirties. I've been thinking about it, like wow, okay, 77 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 1: like I'm in my thirties, I feel more self actualized. 78 00:03:56,920 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 1: I feel more confident in who I am, and feel 79 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 1: a lot more confident also in setting boundaries and like 80 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 1: letting go of that people please your identity. And I 81 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 1: don't know, so I'm thinking that thirties are great so far. 82 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 1: They're very challenging. I think you're thirty tried to take 83 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 1: me out. I went through like so many life transitions 84 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 1: and changes and loss, a lot of loss. So I'm 85 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:25,599 Speaker 1: just welcoming thirty one and hoping that the universe is like, Okay, 86 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:28,280 Speaker 1: we're gonna like chill on this one for a little bit. 87 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:30,599 Speaker 2: Yes, just let it breathe. 88 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 1: Yes, I can't take any more. 89 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 2: Please, I didn't flow. 90 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 1: I'm like enough character development, because your girl can only 91 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:39,160 Speaker 1: take so much. 92 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:40,159 Speaker 2: The character is developed. 93 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 1: Yes, please please give me a break. I need an intermission. 94 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:46,720 Speaker 2: You're exiting your Saturn return basically at this stage. 95 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, my Saturn return has been complete for 96 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 1: about a year, I think so. Yes, please let it 97 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:57,119 Speaker 1: all be done for a while. 98 00:04:57,560 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 2: I think the hard part's over. 99 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:02,039 Speaker 1: I hope, so, girl. From what do they say, from 100 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 1: your lips to God's ears? 101 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:07,160 Speaker 2: Yes, from your lips to God's ears to God's hearing. Aid, 102 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 2: there we go, turn it up God later, crank of 103 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 2: the volume. 104 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 1: And to celebrate my birthday, I went to Vaya the 105 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 1: Wada Lupe in Baha with a couple of friends and 106 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 1: that was really fun. It was definitely a different type 107 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 1: of birthday in the sense that I like was a 108 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 1: mature adult that didn't get too drunk. 109 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 2: Amazing, I know. I mean last year we were hiking 110 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 2: to Machipia. 111 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 1: I think that might have said it. Yeah, like that 112 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 1: set everything in motion. 113 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:42,040 Speaker 2: Yes, it's like a pivot on the way the birthday 114 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:42,719 Speaker 2: is celebrated. 115 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 1: Yes, I have spent many a birthday not remembering, Yes, 116 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 1: and I loved that from my twenties. But as I 117 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:51,720 Speaker 1: was sharing with you and a couple of our friends, 118 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 1: there was one birthday where I like didn't make it, 119 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 1: like I like had to go sleep on the couch. 120 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:02,160 Speaker 1: Nine yeah, And I remember the next day like all 121 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 1: like I don't want to spend my birthday not remembering 122 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:07,360 Speaker 1: and I don't want to spend my birthday asleep when 123 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 1: my friends are outside with each other. And so for me, 124 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 1: that was that moment where I was like, Okay, I 125 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 1: did that and I loved it. It's been fun, but 126 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:19,599 Speaker 1: like I'm ready for something else totally. And so I 127 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:23,559 Speaker 1: think I definitely took that energy into the birthday trip 128 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 1: where it's like I don't want to be passing out. 129 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:27,919 Speaker 1: I don't want to be sick, Like I want to 130 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:31,479 Speaker 1: have some wine, have some snacks, be with my friends, 131 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 1: and like take some nice photos, enjoy the ambiance. 132 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 2: It's wine tasting, but not wine drunk, right, We're not slashed, 133 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 2: We're just we're sipping. 134 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 1: Yes. And it's funny because you know, when I went 135 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 1: to UC Santa Barbara, and that is depending on your age, 136 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:54,919 Speaker 1: and you know, if you're still an undergrad there is wine, 137 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 1: there are wineries, and you do wine tasting, but because 138 00:06:57,720 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 1: you're so young, you go to get drunk and it's 139 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 1: like cheap. It's like, oh, I can get like really 140 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 1: drunk on these wine tastings and it's like twenty dollars. 141 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:07,720 Speaker 1: But if I do enough of them, I'm good. Yea right, 142 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 1: And so yeah, you know, we were like twenty and 143 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 1: like you don't know what you're doing, and so yes, 144 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 1: you're wine tasting to like actually taste the wine. 145 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 2: And that's so mature, it's so elevated. 146 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 1: I know, I know. I was proud of everyone. Nobody 147 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 1: like the gopas you know. It was definitely like a 148 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 1: trip where everyone was on the same page. 149 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 2: That sounds lovely. Yeah, it was lovely and I couldn't 150 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 2: make it. But we've been talking about a trip to 151 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 2: Vaya for years and now, and then I couldn't go, 152 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 2: I know, so I was sad. I have grown accustomed 153 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 2: to celebrating your birthday with you. 154 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 1: Oh we've celebrated I think all of the birthday since 155 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 1: we've known each other together. Yeah, yeah, but you're busy. 156 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. I did go to your house with my tizza. 157 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 2: It did. 158 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 1: I had a small gathering with my friends that couldn't go, 159 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 1: and that was really nice. 160 00:07:55,920 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, a small intimate, an intimate gathering of close friends. 161 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 1: I know. I kept telling everyone, like, this is not 162 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 1: a party, like don't dress up, don't bring anything, bring 163 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 1: yourself and like please like just hang with me. And 164 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 1: that's what we did. We had pizza, we had wine. 165 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 2: It was lovely. We haet cake. 166 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 1: It was great. 167 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 2: You got presents. 168 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 1: I got presents. What are they called the little Calico critters? 169 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 2: They're so cute. I know, you got a bedroom set. 170 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 1: I did. I got a bedroom set, to my dismay, 171 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 1: but also with gratitude. 172 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 2: Because you have to like put up on put them 173 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 2: on a shelf for something. 174 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:32,960 Speaker 1: I do, yes, And I you know, my best friend 175 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:36,079 Speaker 1: Jackie has been supporting my Calico critter like kind of obsession. 176 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 1: But I'm very not willing to be fully obsessed or 177 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 1: commit to the obsession. And so you know, I'm like, 178 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 1: I don't have space. I'm also thirty one. I'm like 179 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 1: not trying to like be the girl with the little things. 180 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 1: But I love the little things, you know, I love them. 181 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 1: I love me some Hello Kitty. I think of like 182 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:59,080 Speaker 1: Hello Kitty as like my Latina birthright, because like you 183 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 1: go to Mexico, go to my hand gool, there's Hello 184 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:03,320 Speaker 1: Kitty everywhere were I'm like, oh, this is just I 185 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:04,599 Speaker 1: was destined. 186 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:07,439 Speaker 2: At the Santa Fe Spring Swapmeat, the Hello Kitty vendor. Yes, 187 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 2: we bought things from her. 188 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:14,439 Speaker 1: We bought thingsats exactly exactly. So anyway, so she gifted 189 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 1: me a bedroom set for my little herky twins. I 190 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:22,680 Speaker 1: know it's I know, it's so cute. 191 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:24,680 Speaker 2: Though, you guys should see it came with bunk beds. 192 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 1: It's a really adorable and a dk I don't want 193 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 1: to be known as the girl with the little thing. 194 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 2: Okay, but you know that that like Renaissance painting, the 195 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 2: girl with the pearl earring, you're the girl with the 196 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 2: little things. 197 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 1: We need to put my things in my hand, my 198 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 1: little Hello Kitty, my Calico critters. 199 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 2: You need a portrait, you know, acrylic of you need 200 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 2: a portrait. You need to sit for a portrait with 201 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 2: your things. 202 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 1: I cannot. 203 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 2: I love it. I cannot. 204 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:58,080 Speaker 1: Yes, wow, And then finally I mean wrapping up Latino 205 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 1: Hispanic heritage man. I was asked to moderate a panel 206 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:06,320 Speaker 1: by Info Blocks. They're a tech company and actually one 207 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 1: of my book club members, Kiki. She put me up 208 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 1: for this opportunity and I got to interview the fabulous 209 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:14,559 Speaker 1: Willie Chavaria. 210 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 2: Amazing, amazing iconic. I'm so when you texted me that, 211 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:22,560 Speaker 2: I screamed a little bit. I was like, oh my god. 212 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 1: What. He's a Chicano designer from Fresno and very much 213 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 1: grew up with like farm worker family members, and his 214 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:37,960 Speaker 1: designs and his personal brand paid tribute to that cultural 215 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 1: historical legacy. And so I got to talk to him 216 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 1: and he's just incredible, and so I hope we can 217 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 1: want to get him on the podcast and have him 218 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 1: talk to us as well, because it was just a 219 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 1: fabulous time. 220 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:54,319 Speaker 2: He has blown up and I always come across him 221 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 2: on TikTok, Like people are always interviewing him on the 222 00:10:56,679 --> 00:11:00,200 Speaker 2: street asking him about his outfit. His work is on 223 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:02,959 Speaker 2: all the big runways, he's in all the major magazines. 224 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 2: Like he's becoming a fashion icon in the mainstream, Like 225 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 2: he really is hot, cature, but make it Chicano, make 226 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 2: it Fresno. But I think he's been New York based, right. 227 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 1: Yes, he's New York based and he's also the current 228 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:20,560 Speaker 1: senior vice president of design at Calvin Klein. So he's 229 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:23,319 Speaker 1: really in the fashion world, so in it. In addition 230 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:26,959 Speaker 1: to having his own brand that's his namesake, he's also 231 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 1: works for Calvin Klein. 232 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 2: I had no idea he was with Calvin Klein, all American. Yes, 233 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 2: that's incredible. 234 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 1: Yes, I'm so honored that I was able to talk 235 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 1: to him, and hopefully we can get him on look 236 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 1: at Tora, Don't go Anywhere, Loka Motives. We'll be right. 237 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 2: Back and we're back with more of our episode. 238 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:51,680 Speaker 1: So, Maley, you have also been quite busy. 239 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 2: Yes, I'm in the throes of school. I'm in my 240 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 2: second semester of my MFA at USC. I'm studying Film 241 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 2: and Television production, and so this semester, the way it 242 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 2: works in this class as they put us in trios 243 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:05,839 Speaker 2: and we take turns doing different jobs and we make 244 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 2: three movies in one semester. So for the first movie 245 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:11,839 Speaker 2: of the semester, I was the cinematographer, I was the 246 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 2: director of photography, and I was our production designer. That 247 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 2: was a super duper fun experience. I've always been a 248 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 2: little timid with the camera, and there's a lot of 249 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:26,840 Speaker 2: pressure in that job to make everything look good and 250 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 2: make sure things are in focus and that the frame 251 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 2: is perfect and that the director is getting everything that 252 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 2: they want. There's just a lot of people buzzing around 253 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 2: and a lot of details with the camera settings and 254 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:40,320 Speaker 2: the lighting and continuity and X, Y and Z. But 255 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 2: doing that and the production design just gave me, like 256 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 2: I don't know, a really beautiful opportunity to blend, Like 257 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 2: I love a little interior design, so to blend that 258 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 2: with the camera work was really really fun. Right now 259 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 2: with the movie that we're making, I'm our producer, and 260 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 2: when you're producing a film in this class, you're also 261 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 2: the on set sound recordist, So I'm like handling the 262 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 2: mixer and I'm operating the boom, and then I also 263 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:15,560 Speaker 2: have to edit the film. So they have us cutting 264 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 2: our dailies, which are the clips that we film over 265 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 2: the weekend. They have us cut our dailies and then 266 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 2: screen them in class in between shooting weekends, and then 267 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 2: our professors give us feedback, and then we go back 268 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 2: a second weekend and we do any reshoots or whatever 269 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:33,080 Speaker 2: needs to be shot. So it's a lot of in 270 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 2: that producing work. It's like a lot of permits and 271 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 2: forms and insurance and scheduling and meals and keeping track 272 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 2: of cast and crew and everyone's allergies and who's a 273 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 2: vegetarian and where's everyone parking? And do we have our 274 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:52,320 Speaker 2: film LA permit? And do we need a stunt coordinator? 275 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 2: And is there a fog machine? And like do we 276 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 2: need a production safety plan? Like it's a lot of paperwork. 277 00:13:57,360 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 2: But then I also get to turn around and edit, 278 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:01,320 Speaker 2: which is also fun. And then the next film that 279 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 2: we make, I'll be writing and directing, and so stay 280 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 2: tuned because I have more about that one. I'm doing 281 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 2: a little horror film which is going to be very 282 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 2: fun and cute. So yeah, I'm just in the thick 283 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 2: of it. And then I have like a midterm exam 284 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 2: in this class called Motion Picture Script Analysis, and we 285 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 2: watch movies and then analyze them. So like I don't 286 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 2: carry any books in this program, like as a graduate student, 287 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 2: there's no books. But we are watching Finding Nemo in 288 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 2: class and the School of Rock and like doing an 289 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 2: analysis of the film as a text. So that's very 290 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 2: fun for me. And yeah, so that's what I've been 291 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 2: up to. 292 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 1: That's really cool. 293 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 2: I thank you. 294 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 1: I love when you send me photo updates and when 295 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 1: you just send me general updates about what's going on 296 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 1: in costs and what you're working on. That's exciting. 297 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 2: It is very exciting. And like again in my role 298 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 2: as producer, like this film that I'm working on, we 299 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 2: have like one character breaks the other character's neck and 300 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 2: hit somebody over the head with a bat, and we 301 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 2: have like a fake bomb and a whip and blood 302 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 2: and rope and baseball bats. And I had to take 303 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 2: all of those prop weapons to campus to the Department 304 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 2: of Public Safety to get them inspected by the watch commander. 305 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 2: And then I had to take them to the physical 306 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 2: production office and it's like a whole thing. And I 307 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 2: get there and I like open up my bag and 308 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 2: the cop is like, okay, let's see these weapons. And 309 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 2: it's like, you know, rope and blood and a baseball 310 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 2: bat and like a sticks of dynamite from Amazon. Like 311 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 2: I just feel so silly, you know, like with my 312 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 2: Looney Tune ass bag of tricks. So, yeah, film school 313 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 2: is really fun and I'm very actually very excited for 314 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 2: the semester to be over because she's tired. But it's okay, 315 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 2: that's what it's all about. That's me. 316 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, grad school is hard. And your program is a 317 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 1: lot longer than mine. So yes, blessings to. 318 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 2: You, thank thank you. I will I will take the blessings. 319 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 1: Thank you and Bill, you know, obviously making the show. 320 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 1: And we're also hosting an event in collaboration with Sway 321 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 1: Studio on Thursday, October twenty fourth in la We will 322 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 1: be in conversation with Liliam Rivera. She is the author 323 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 1: of Tiny Threads and we're going to be talking about 324 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 1: her book and all things fashion, sustainability and the fashion 325 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 1: industry in general. 326 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 2: Love it. That's going to be really fun. Shout out 327 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 2: to our friend Sureley for coordinating with us to get 328 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 2: us involved with this event. We're really looking forward to it. 329 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm so excited to just be like out in 330 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 1: the world again as podcasters, you know what I mean. 331 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 1: Like the studio obviously is amazing, and the podcast is amazing, 332 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 1: but like doing actual events like we used to is 333 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 1: really fun and I missed that. So it's really fun 334 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 1: when we get to be like out and about. 335 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 2: And we were at USC not too long ago, yes, 336 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 2: moderating a conversation and that was a great time. And 337 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 2: it's it's just really fun doing things with students and 338 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:07,120 Speaker 2: speaking on campuses. When we were doing our university circuit 339 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:11,199 Speaker 2: back in the day before the pandemic, it was just 340 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:14,639 Speaker 2: always really fun and the energy is so high, and 341 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 2: they's a buzz when there's a student run event, and 342 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:21,440 Speaker 2: it's always like the Latino Center or the Association of 343 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:25,639 Speaker 2: Latin American Students and you know, all the acronyms, and 344 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 2: it's just fun. 345 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 1: It's fun. 346 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, they keep us young, they do. Thank god, something 347 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:37,640 Speaker 2: something's keeping as young. It's the students, it's the youth 348 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:39,920 Speaker 2: of tomorrow. The listeners, the listeners. 349 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. So that being said, we actually have some 350 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:49,640 Speaker 1: questions that were submitted today by our listeners in our 351 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 1: Locomotives channel on Instagram. So in case you missed it, 352 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:57,440 Speaker 1: their Instagram now has this feature where you can join 353 00:17:57,480 --> 00:17:59,439 Speaker 1: a channel, and in order to do that, you just 354 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 1: go to our Instagram homepage and there's like a little 355 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:06,879 Speaker 1: Locomotives Members channel that you can click and you can 356 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:09,159 Speaker 1: join it. And really, I just like to share a 357 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:13,160 Speaker 1: little behind the scenes photos and questions and let y'all 358 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:15,920 Speaker 1: know when we're doing things. And so I posted a 359 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 1: question box in there and y'all submitted some very fun, 360 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 1: very interesting questions and so we're just gonna get started 361 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 1: and see how many we can get through. 362 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 2: You are now listening to Oh yeah, so I love 363 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 2: this first one. How do I stop taking everything personally? 364 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 2: This one's hard? 365 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 1: This it's hard. 366 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 2: How do I stop taking everything personally? 367 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 1: That's hard. It's hard, especially when you're sensitive like me. 368 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:52,479 Speaker 1: But I think I sometimes I when I catch myself 369 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 1: doing this, I say to myself, it's actually not about you. 370 00:18:56,200 --> 00:19:00,440 Speaker 1: It's not about you, And in the kindest way to myself, say, 371 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:03,400 Speaker 1: the world actually doesn't revolve around you, and how this 372 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 1: person is either responding to you right now, or how 373 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 1: maybe they're not prioritizing what's important to you. Whatever it 374 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 1: may be, like, it actually has nothing to do with you. 375 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 1: It has everything to do with them, truly, and where 376 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 1: they're at in their headspace. That doesn't mean like they 377 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 1: have the permission to be mean to you or unkind 378 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:24,640 Speaker 1: to you, or treat you horribly or poorly. But there 379 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:26,359 Speaker 1: are some things that aren't actually about you. 380 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 2: It's even like in the way that we say this, 381 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 2: like taking it personally, it's not that someone's even giving 382 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 2: it to me personally. I'm just taking it and making 383 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 2: it personally. 384 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:37,920 Speaker 1: Yes, that's a good point. 385 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 2: It's in my control how I receive something and how 386 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:44,119 Speaker 2: I bring it into my own mind unless there's like 387 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 2: definitive evidence and proof that oh no, they actually hate me, yeah, 388 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 2: or they actually have a problem with me, but that 389 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 2: is that's rarely what happens. 390 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I also think it's like who is the person? Yes, 391 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 1: you know, is it your mom? Is it someone that 392 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 1: loves you and cares about you? Then like it's really 393 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 1: probably more about them, And if it's someone that doesn't 394 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 1: like you, then like, well you don't need to take 395 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 1: anything from them, actually. 396 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:12,200 Speaker 2: Very much so. And like in life, people are gonna 397 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:15,399 Speaker 2: not like you. Yeah, this is the other thing is 398 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:18,919 Speaker 2: actually yeah, maybe they can't stand you. Yeah, but that 399 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:22,640 Speaker 2: just comes with the territory of existing and being out 400 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 2: in the world and knowing people and meeting people. So 401 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 2: it's also just a hard truth we have to just 402 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 2: accept sometimes like I'm not for this person, and maybe 403 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 2: I leave them alone because I rub them the wrong way. 404 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 2: There's something about me that just doesn't mesh with them 405 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 2: and their vibe. And that's all right. I don't have 406 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 2: to dwell on it. It doesn't have to keep me 407 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:45,439 Speaker 2: up at night. I mean, I'm gonna dwell and it 408 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 2: will keep me up at night, but I don't have to. 409 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:53,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's part of like letting go. Depending 410 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 1: if you're you have those people pleasing tendencies like a 411 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:59,359 Speaker 1: lot of us do, right, especially me, It's like, Okay, 412 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:02,119 Speaker 1: I'm not going to let this actually determine how I 413 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 1: view myself, as hard as it may be. And yes, 414 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 1: some people are not gonna like me, and that's a 415 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:12,639 Speaker 1: hard pill to swallow sometimes, but there are lots of 416 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 1: people that do like you and do love you and 417 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 1: want to be around you. So be with those people. 418 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, And if they don't like you, it's probably because 419 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:22,400 Speaker 2: they're jealous, such. 420 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:26,959 Speaker 1: A like default Senora thing to say, Selos, they're jealous 421 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 1: of you because you're so beautiful and talented and smart 422 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:32,119 Speaker 1: and they could never and that's why they don't like you. 423 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 1: There we go. 424 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 2: They can't be in the same room with you, they 425 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 2: can't be next to you. They need a burlap sack 426 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:42,200 Speaker 2: over your head because your shine is just too bright. 427 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 2: You should tell yourself in the mirror. 428 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 1: And we don't doll or shine for nobody. Don't go 429 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:49,399 Speaker 1: anywhere lokomotives. We'll be right back. 430 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 2: We're back with more. We hope you didn't go anywhere 431 00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 2: all right? 432 00:21:57,119 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 1: Next question, what made you finally you prioritize yourself? Was 433 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 1: it a breaking point with people? 434 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:05,879 Speaker 2: Have we prioritized ourselves? 435 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:07,880 Speaker 1: I don't know. I think we were doing better at it. 436 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 2: I think you're doing better at it. 437 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:13,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, well I think you are too. I think I 438 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:16,400 Speaker 1: think you moving was a way of you like prioritizing 439 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:18,879 Speaker 1: yourself and like a new phase of your life, like 440 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:22,879 Speaker 1: giving yourself that like independence to grow total. I answer 441 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 1: the question for you. 442 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely, moving, Definitely school. There's also been some personal, 443 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 2: very personal developments that have been going on that I 444 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:35,200 Speaker 2: will not share it. 445 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 1: Am I allowed to say that it's romantic? Yeah, that's it. 446 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 1: That's all we need to say. 447 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 2: Not only is it romantic, it's incredibly romantic. Yes, it's 448 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 2: very romantic. 449 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:46,360 Speaker 1: It's old timy, it's very old. 450 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 2: Timey, like I've always wanted. 451 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 1: It has been manifesting an old timey romance and now 452 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:54,880 Speaker 1: she has it. But that's all we're saying because we're 453 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 1: protecting it. 454 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 2: I will say one more thing. In the vegust of terms, 455 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 2: my mom was like, well, you know, this person needs 456 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 2: to go talk to your dad and ask for permission 457 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:06,119 Speaker 2: to date you. 458 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:09,960 Speaker 1: It's that old timing, that old that's true. Actually, there's 459 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:10,640 Speaker 1: that layer. 460 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:13,439 Speaker 2: There's that layer, and this is that case where like 461 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 2: a it's funny, but be this person is game and 462 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:20,200 Speaker 2: see like it's actually appropriate, like it actually makes sense. 463 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, it doesn't make sense here, Like no, you go. 464 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 2: Tell my dad, Yeah, you go knock on the door 465 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 2: and any who, AnyWho. That's all I'm going to say 466 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:28,920 Speaker 2: is so that's all I'm going to say. 467 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, okay, okay. So this is how you've finally 468 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 1: like prioritized yourself. 469 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:40,399 Speaker 2: By falling madly in love. Yeah, exactly, exactly how have 470 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:41,880 Speaker 2: you prioritized yourself? 471 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 1: Oh my god? I okay. I have not shared this 472 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 1: story with very very many people. Mala obviously knows. But 473 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 1: I at the beginning of the top of the year, 474 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:56,679 Speaker 1: I cosplayed as a single girl for a weekend. Nothing 475 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 1: to do with my amazing partner, but I just needed 476 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 1: to get away for a weekend because I was at 477 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 1: my breaking point and that kind of set things in 478 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:10,639 Speaker 1: motion to change. And you know, sometimes you're around people 479 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 1: that are not willing to change for themselves, and so 480 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:16,879 Speaker 1: and you begin to recognize, Okay, these people are not 481 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 1: going to change, so I have to change, and I 482 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:23,159 Speaker 1: change my environment, I change myself. I changed my relationship 483 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:25,879 Speaker 1: with these people, whatever that may look like. And so 484 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 1: that was my breaking point. My little single girl weekend ended, 485 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:33,440 Speaker 1: and it wasn't really a single girl weekend, but I 486 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 1: like stayed alone for the weekend in another place, and 487 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:40,639 Speaker 1: for me, that was me costplaying as a single girl. 488 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:45,119 Speaker 1: And when I came back from that little getaway, you know, 489 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 1: I had a very difficult conversation with my family and 490 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 1: basically said, like, I'm whatever's going on here, I no 491 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:55,919 Speaker 1: longer want to be a part of it, and so 492 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:59,880 Speaker 1: I'm removing myself and by default, my partner is also 493 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,920 Speaker 1: moving himself. And so take what you will with that information. 494 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 1: And things changed after that, and so I think that was, like, ugh, 495 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 1: big sigh, Like that was the biggest step that I 496 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:18,400 Speaker 1: ever took to finally prioritize myself. But it was years 497 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,399 Speaker 1: in the making. It was years of therapy, It was 498 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 1: all my twenties, all my life practically of like getting 499 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 1: to this point, and so it took a very long time, 500 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 1: but it was a process. It was a journey, and 501 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 1: you know, it was part of what made I think 502 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 1: this year, however you want to look at it, you're thirty, 503 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:40,400 Speaker 1: my year, thirty twenty twenty four, like, we're really challenging, 504 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 1: but I think I'm on the other side of it. 505 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 1: There's still some challenges, but it was it definitely took 506 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 1: like getting to my breaking point to finally make some changes. 507 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:54,680 Speaker 2: Since I've known you, this particular issue has been an issue, right, 508 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 2: like a big one, yeah, you know, just recurring and 509 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 2: so to be at the and there had been conversations 510 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,119 Speaker 2: previously about how to fix this, or how it could change, 511 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 2: or who would need to change, and how the house 512 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 2: would have to look different. And so then for this 513 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:13,199 Speaker 2: this big shift to happen like this year, it's one 514 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,159 Speaker 2: of those like, oh, it's happening. 515 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 1: It's one of those things where you don't believe it's 516 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 1: happening until it's happened, and you know, the like I 517 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 1: hate just to speak in such vague terms. The reason 518 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 1: I'm not so specific it is because it's not just 519 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,920 Speaker 1: involving me, right, it's not my my entirely my story 520 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:32,359 Speaker 1: to share, which is why I haven't really talked about 521 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:34,920 Speaker 1: it on the podcast or even on social media because 522 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,200 Speaker 1: it's kind of it's private and it affects it's about 523 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 1: my family, and so you know, I just will say 524 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 1: that it was like a really tough couple of months 525 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:46,199 Speaker 1: to get through, and then you know, I made it 526 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 1: through the other side, and I have no. 527 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:51,640 Speaker 2: Regrets, and I do think the hardest part is over. 528 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, thank god. 529 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's got to be smooth from here on out. 530 00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:58,119 Speaker 1: Yes, please, truly. 531 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 2: All right, next, let's see what are you reaching for 532 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,400 Speaker 2: and what are you letting go of? Oh my goodness, 533 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 2: right now, definitely just reaching for knowledge and learning and 534 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:15,359 Speaker 2: just evolving as a creative and just really learning this 535 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:19,159 Speaker 2: filmmaking stuff and then figuring out how to apply it 536 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:21,679 Speaker 2: back to look at what our productions and then what 537 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:25,199 Speaker 2: we can do with it. Because we've talked about what 538 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 2: can be adapted, like what can be adapted for the 539 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,959 Speaker 2: screen in one way or another, and how can our 540 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 2: story also be told on screen somehow? Because we have 541 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 2: now all this audio and we've talked about the show 542 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,400 Speaker 2: as an audio archive that is still what it is. 543 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,879 Speaker 2: So we've archived all these years and all these ideas 544 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:48,479 Speaker 2: and these thoughts and these interviews and these experiences and 545 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 2: I just think that the podcast itself is so ripe 546 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:54,200 Speaker 2: for a different art form, you know, like to be 547 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 2: expressed in another way. So that's really kind of where 548 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:02,880 Speaker 2: my mind is. And what am I letting go of? Man, 549 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 2: I'm just trying to let go of, you know. I 550 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:09,480 Speaker 2: think over the years, I have evolved a lot as 551 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 2: far as my ideas about like my ideas about even 552 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:17,720 Speaker 2: things like femininity and feminism and like the type of 553 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:19,920 Speaker 2: woman I am or the type of woman I want 554 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 2: to be. And I think I'm letting go of like 555 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 2: maybe some more immature or like one dimensional ideas like 556 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 2: what like you know, I think we've talked about over 557 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:34,879 Speaker 2: the years, how like you know, things like not wanting 558 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 2: kids right or waiting or doing it in your own time, 559 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 2: or but also we've had these conversations about like these 560 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 2: might seem like disconnected, like fem science, you know, and 561 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 2: how like the domestic space can actually be this place 562 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 2: of empowerment and such. And I'm just entering into this 563 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:56,360 Speaker 2: era of like feeling my like soft girl vibes and 564 00:28:56,480 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 2: like finding the nurture in myself and like the lover 565 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 2: in myself and the caretaker in myself, which are categories 566 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 2: that I have sort of tiptoed around or like I 567 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 2: haven't touched Like I haven't always been a very like 568 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 2: touchy feely or emotional person, and maybe my emotions have 569 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 2: been more stuck to like like passion and excitement or 570 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 2: joy or like thrill seeking. But uh, I have stayed 571 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:32,600 Speaker 2: away from like vulnerability, you know, like I'm not the 572 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:37,240 Speaker 2: most vulnerable and I'm not the most like uh open 573 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 2: with like sharing my feelings and such. But I am 574 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:45,240 Speaker 2: coming into this era where I feel like like the 575 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 2: ice queen is melting, you know, and like the armor 576 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 2: is being shed, like I am laying down my sword. Wow, 577 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:56,040 Speaker 2: which is horrible. It's a horrible feeling, right, but vulnerable, Yeah, 578 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 2: but it also feels so great at the same time. 579 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:02,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, when you can be safe and you feel safe 580 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 1: enough to do it, like it should feel good. It 581 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 1: can be scary, that's always gonna be scary, but it 582 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:11,720 Speaker 1: shouldn't feel bad if it actually could feel good. 583 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like somebody at school was like, oh my god, 584 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:18,720 Speaker 2: you're glowing, like what's going on? And I was like, 585 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:22,120 Speaker 2: you know what, I'm in love and it's awful, Like 586 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:25,160 Speaker 2: I love it. But it's also like I feel like 587 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 2: this is very much one of those moments where it's like, 588 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 2: am I grieving? Low key? Like this is a new chapter. Yeah, 589 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 2: And so I'm sort of I'm shedding, I'm kind of 590 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 2: grieving a little bit, but also very happily letting go 591 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:44,239 Speaker 2: and just kind of letting it. I'm just going with it. 592 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 2: I'm just letting it take me, and I'm not resisting. 593 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:50,000 Speaker 2: I'm cooperating. I'm being very cooperative. 594 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. I think that our whole lives are filled with 595 00:30:55,920 --> 00:31:00,240 Speaker 1: like a grieving process because we're constantly transforming and evolving, yes, 596 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,720 Speaker 1: and so we're like constantly letting go of a version 597 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 1: of ourselves. And I think, on that note, I've been 598 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 1: talking about this with my therapist for on and off 599 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 1: for a couple of years. Is like, you know, kind 600 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:15,560 Speaker 1: of grieving that the way my life was set up 601 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 1: and the type of person that I am, I was 602 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 1: never going to be someone that moved away from my family. 603 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:25,560 Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that's good or bad if you did, 604 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:30,280 Speaker 1: Like there's no judgment there, but it also because that's 605 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:32,720 Speaker 1: not who I was raised to be, and maybe also 606 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:34,720 Speaker 1: who I chose to be, because I could have just 607 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 1: said al Rajo I'm leaving, like y'all figure it out 608 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 1: by yourselves. That's not who I am. But there's that 609 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 1: part of me that's like, you know, who could I 610 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,360 Speaker 1: have been? And who? Yeah, who could I have been 611 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 1: if I had done made some different choices? I think that. 612 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:53,160 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm happy with my life and I'm happy 613 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 1: with where I'm at, but there is that question that 614 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:58,960 Speaker 1: doubt of like could my life have been different if 615 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 1: I had maybe made a choices differently when I was younger. 616 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 1: And this is not to say that I regrets or anything, 617 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:07,600 Speaker 1: but I think that to going back to what you're 618 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:11,680 Speaker 1: saying about grieving and letting go, it's like, okay, letting 619 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 1: go that like, well, that person is can no longer be? 620 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:18,240 Speaker 1: That person's gone, so like I cannot get stuck in 621 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:22,520 Speaker 1: the what if? And should I? And instead, how can 622 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:26,240 Speaker 1: I think about qualities that maybe that version of me 623 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 1: has She's somewhere out there, and how can I bring 624 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 1: her into my current life? You know, how can I 625 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 1: have some of those qualities that maybe I feel are 626 00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 1: missing for me or from my life or what I want? 627 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:43,360 Speaker 1: And you know, let them be, let them be here, 628 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 1: let them be present, as opposed to like thinking my mind, 629 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 1: letting going and wandering of like what could have been, 630 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:50,040 Speaker 1: you know, like let's be here in. 631 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,840 Speaker 2: The present, because then it's like, oh, am I just 632 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:58,880 Speaker 2: living in this nostalgia versus like living exactly my reality. 633 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:00,640 Speaker 1: And it's like you're not appreciate, eat what's right in 634 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 1: front of you, you know, and so and I think 635 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 1: that we can get caught so caught up in that, 636 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:11,360 Speaker 1: especially if maybe there's unresolved feelings about something, you know, 637 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:15,200 Speaker 1: whether that be a person or a situation, anything, you 638 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:19,360 Speaker 1: can get stuck in that like that nostalgia and it's like, oh, actually, 639 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:21,760 Speaker 1: you know, my life is fabulous, it's great. I've built 640 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 1: it to be this way, you know, So let me 641 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,360 Speaker 1: be present here and love what's right in front of 642 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 1: me exactly. 643 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 2: So important. Also, like if we just think about the 644 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:35,760 Speaker 2: human brain and like memories, like our brain cannot retain 645 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:39,560 Speaker 2: every detail of things that have happened in the past, 646 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:44,080 Speaker 2: and we like fill in details like our minds, you know, 647 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 2: like our memories are kind of like fragmented together, and 648 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:52,120 Speaker 2: so the nostalgia sometimes is not completely accurate. Yeah, you know, 649 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 2: it's like I remember these major things, but a lot 650 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:57,240 Speaker 2: of this is kind of like being filled in and 651 00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:00,880 Speaker 2: it's almost guessing in some ways. But what we can 652 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,640 Speaker 2: rely on more is, yeah, what's in front of us 653 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:07,280 Speaker 2: now is much more trustworthy than what we're remembering. 654 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:10,080 Speaker 1: Definitely, Yeah, I agree. 655 00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:13,959 Speaker 2: So let's see what's next. If you could have lunch 656 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,319 Speaker 2: with anyone dead or alive, who would it be? I 657 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:19,759 Speaker 2: would much rather the person be alive that I'm having 658 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:20,200 Speaker 2: lunch with. 659 00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 1: Who would it be? 660 00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:24,440 Speaker 2: Probably? I mean not to be cliche and corny, but 661 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:25,680 Speaker 2: I mean probably Selena. 662 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:26,840 Speaker 1: You just said alive? 663 00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:30,560 Speaker 2: Oh she's dead. I forgot. I forgot she's dead for 664 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:31,640 Speaker 2: a second. How sad? 665 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,040 Speaker 1: You know her memory lives on this? 666 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,560 Speaker 2: So okay? You know who would be fun? I mean 667 00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:40,480 Speaker 2: I think it's very easy to be like, oh, Beyonce. Right, 668 00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:44,080 Speaker 2: I don't actually know how fun she would be over lunch? 669 00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:46,440 Speaker 2: You know, Aubrey Plaza. 670 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:48,479 Speaker 1: That would be a fun lunch. Yeah. 671 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:51,400 Speaker 2: I don't know if it would be fun, but it 672 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:53,200 Speaker 2: would be okay because I don't think you know what 673 00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:54,640 Speaker 2: I mean, Like it's her like. 674 00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:57,440 Speaker 1: Right, you're not like laughing hysterically with each other. No, 675 00:34:57,640 --> 00:34:59,440 Speaker 1: there's some like witty banter going on. 676 00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:01,879 Speaker 2: Maybe hopefully, I think she would be very very fun. 677 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:02,400 Speaker 2: How about you. 678 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:05,719 Speaker 1: I am terrible at these types of questions. My mind 679 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:08,759 Speaker 1: goes blank. So I don't know. 680 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, like, are there people in the world. 681 00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:14,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, there are no No one exists. There's no way 682 00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:16,239 Speaker 1: there's no one in the world right now that I 683 00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 1: would have lunch with. 684 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:18,160 Speaker 2: I would have lunch with you. 685 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:19,840 Speaker 1: I was about to say, I would have lunch with you. 686 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:21,480 Speaker 2: We can get left. 687 00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:22,359 Speaker 1: Yes, there we go. 688 00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:26,840 Speaker 2: Great question, guys. Let's see can you do an episode 689 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:30,280 Speaker 2: on women in their thirties and how that's still baby? 690 00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:32,839 Speaker 1: Well, I love this questions so much, and you're right, 691 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:33,880 Speaker 1: just love the phrasing. 692 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:38,040 Speaker 2: Thirty is baby, thirty is baby, I'm baby, I am baby, 693 00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:39,719 Speaker 2: and that's it. 694 00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:41,880 Speaker 1: That's it, that's baby. 695 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:42,640 Speaker 2: Say no more. 696 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:47,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I mean I guess there's that 697 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:51,839 Speaker 1: expectation that like you're like a full grown adult when 698 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:54,239 Speaker 1: you're in your thirties, right and so, but in so 699 00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:57,520 Speaker 1: many ways, like no, we're still everyone is still learning. 700 00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:00,839 Speaker 1: Everyone is still baby. I will be eighty years old 701 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:01,800 Speaker 1: and still babies. 702 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:03,200 Speaker 2: Oh even more so, I will. 703 00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:05,040 Speaker 1: Be even more of a senorita when I'm eighty. 704 00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:10,640 Speaker 2: Okay, absolutely, I mean we're just thirty something teenage girls. 705 00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:14,080 Speaker 1: Literally I think about that, and I think about too 706 00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:16,160 Speaker 1: God not to be so deep today, but I guess 707 00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:18,480 Speaker 1: here we are. I've been thinking about, like, you know, 708 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:19,719 Speaker 1: the top of the episode, I was like, I don't 709 00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:21,880 Speaker 1: want to have all these little things. And I was like, 710 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:23,400 Speaker 1: you know what, when I was a little girl, I 711 00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:24,520 Speaker 1: had lots of little things. 712 00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:26,200 Speaker 2: I saw your storage clean up. 713 00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:29,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, I had little beanie babies, I had barbies. 714 00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:35,480 Speaker 1: Like I definitely had things, not like excessively, right, but like, 715 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:39,439 Speaker 1: you know, my mom bought me things. And so I've 716 00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:43,400 Speaker 1: been thinking about that now as as someone in their thirties, 717 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:46,080 Speaker 1: and how like everyone is like talking about like we're 718 00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:48,600 Speaker 1: tapping into our inner childs and I think, yeah, I 719 00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:50,560 Speaker 1: think a lot of us in our thirties we start 720 00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,799 Speaker 1: to feel safe again to be like I actually don't 721 00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,920 Speaker 1: care if anyone thinks this is weird or nerdy or 722 00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:01,520 Speaker 1: you know, immature. I like it and so cares. Yeah, 723 00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:04,120 Speaker 1: And it goes back to like not caring what people think, 724 00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:06,959 Speaker 1: doing it just for you, connecting with your inner child, 725 00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:09,640 Speaker 1: like all those things that I feel like we collectively 726 00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:12,440 Speaker 1: talk about online or women especially talk about online, and 727 00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:15,920 Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, just you're still baby. Just do it, Yeah, 728 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:17,040 Speaker 1: have your little things. 729 00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:23,120 Speaker 2: Have your little things center play, like finding opportunities to 730 00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:26,000 Speaker 2: not be in charge and to not be in control 731 00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:28,759 Speaker 2: and to not make all the decisions and to like 732 00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:33,320 Speaker 2: not drive and you know, kind of not do anything. 733 00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:34,200 Speaker 1: Yeah. 734 00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:37,080 Speaker 2: I think that's really important. And that's also very baby. 735 00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:40,200 Speaker 1: He's very baby. I've been talking to Phenenmeno about that 736 00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:44,480 Speaker 1: too recently. I told him, like, you know, so much 737 00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:48,640 Speaker 1: of my day to day, I'm like scheduling things and 738 00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:52,280 Speaker 1: organizing things and making sure we're on track as a production. 739 00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:53,680 Speaker 2: So she keeps us running. 740 00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:56,239 Speaker 1: I keep us running, and I do it because that's 741 00:37:56,320 --> 00:38:00,080 Speaker 1: my that's my strength, right, and I'm okay, I'm okay 742 00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,360 Speaker 1: with that. That's my role. But I was telling him, like, 743 00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:04,360 Speaker 1: I actually don't want to pick where to go to dinner. 744 00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:07,080 Speaker 1: I actually don't want to plan a weekend away, So 745 00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:09,520 Speaker 1: can you take lead on that because my brain is 746 00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:14,080 Speaker 1: actually like exhausted. And I didn't realize how I was 747 00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:16,560 Speaker 1: feeling until I told him that. And it's like, you know, 748 00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:18,239 Speaker 1: I don't want to be in charge of a date. 749 00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:20,120 Speaker 1: Like I need you to do that, Like you need 750 00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:22,080 Speaker 1: to take lead on that from now on as he should, 751 00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:24,359 Speaker 1: as he should, and but then it's like, well, he's 752 00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:26,239 Speaker 1: not going to know that unless I tell him, right, 753 00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:27,600 Speaker 1: you know. So it's like I have to you have 754 00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:30,200 Speaker 1: to communicate or whatever. And so it's one of those 755 00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:32,120 Speaker 1: things where it's like, Okay, I'm baby, but I have 756 00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:33,640 Speaker 1: to let everybody know that I'm baby. 757 00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:38,160 Speaker 2: Yes, you have to be a very verbose, communicative baby 758 00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:43,360 Speaker 2: who states their intentions and their boundary exactly, very self 759 00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:47,440 Speaker 2: actualized baby, which is what it's all about. Yeah, it's 760 00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:50,240 Speaker 2: what it's all about. Great question. 761 00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,239 Speaker 1: We're just like flowing through these questions right now. I 762 00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:55,480 Speaker 1: didn't think we were going to get through them. 763 00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:57,799 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, lookaz, it's fun. Yeah, it's always fun. Send 764 00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:01,160 Speaker 2: us questions, y'all, just like keep them coming, email us, 765 00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:04,760 Speaker 2: go to the website, send us something on speak pipe. 766 00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:10,880 Speaker 2: Do y'all have any tradition traditions for the other loostos 767 00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:14,319 Speaker 2: right now? As a podcast, our tradition is every year 768 00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:17,479 Speaker 2: saying we're gonna like submit anout that for the Grand Park, 769 00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:20,800 Speaker 2: the other Moertos or the Hollywood Forever the other Motos, 770 00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:22,759 Speaker 2: and never doing it, but always talking about it. 771 00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:25,160 Speaker 1: We've been talking about it since twenty sixteen. 772 00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:28,160 Speaker 2: Actually that's our tradition. It's our tradition talking about an 773 00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:29,840 Speaker 2: altar and then not submitting. 774 00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:32,799 Speaker 1: Not doing it. We need a bigger team. There's just 775 00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,719 Speaker 1: two of us plus our lovely producer, but she just 776 00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:38,080 Speaker 1: does audio. Like we don't expect her to like event 777 00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:41,400 Speaker 1: plan with us, you know, and so she can't. So yeah, 778 00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:43,160 Speaker 1: that's that is our tradition. 779 00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:46,280 Speaker 2: We have a lot of aspirations and dreams, but something 780 00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:48,319 Speaker 2: like building one of those out that is is it's 781 00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:51,800 Speaker 2: a lot of work. It's construction. Oh yeah, Like it's 782 00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:53,919 Speaker 2: a it's a big art installation. 783 00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:56,880 Speaker 1: And we're not just gonna like throw something together. Like 784 00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:59,080 Speaker 1: it has to be an experience because that's what we 785 00:39:59,120 --> 00:39:59,480 Speaker 1: do here. 786 00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:02,360 Speaker 2: That's what we do here, and at these events, the 787 00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:06,080 Speaker 2: altars are extravagant and they have a purpose and a 788 00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:10,720 Speaker 2: design and intention and a color scheme, and they're they're 789 00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:13,080 Speaker 2: huge and people go all out. So we can't just 790 00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:15,600 Speaker 2: come up with, you know, our little tablecloth and a 791 00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:16,799 Speaker 2: candle and call it a day. 792 00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:19,560 Speaker 1: That's good for your home out that, but not for 793 00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:22,000 Speaker 1: like an installation piece exactly. 794 00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:26,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, how about personally, do you have theos tradition? 795 00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:28,919 Speaker 1: Ah, Well, we build an out of that, and I'm 796 00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:32,680 Speaker 1: actually kind of dreading it this year. Tone shift obviously, 797 00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:36,280 Speaker 1: but this is the this is unexpectedly I am putting 798 00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:39,920 Speaker 1: my dog Glusko on the altar, and I am not 799 00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:44,359 Speaker 1: ready and very devastated and still grieving that loss. And 800 00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:49,560 Speaker 1: so I am, you know, in so many ways. Last 801 00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:52,440 Speaker 1: year was the first year that we put our cat 802 00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:55,719 Speaker 1: are my pet, mister Bean. He had lived with us 803 00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:59,359 Speaker 1: for about eighteen years, and that was his first year 804 00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:02,200 Speaker 1: going on the end, and that was, you know, very sad, 805 00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:07,200 Speaker 1: very beautiful, but an expected loss because he was having 806 00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:10,920 Speaker 1: some problems, some health problems. And then this year, you know, 807 00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:14,719 Speaker 1: just how unexpectedly we lost Gusco. I am just have 808 00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:19,920 Speaker 1: been grieving pretty intensely for the last couple of months, 809 00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:22,799 Speaker 1: and so that is just for me, Like as we 810 00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:27,719 Speaker 1: approach the holiday, I'm feeling very very sad, and you know, 811 00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:31,799 Speaker 1: of course, like there's the human loss, and you know, 812 00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:36,600 Speaker 1: I've lost people, several people in the last couple of years, 813 00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:40,120 Speaker 1: but I just again, like the way I lost Gusco, 814 00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:43,880 Speaker 1: and I haven't shared publicly, but he was hit by 815 00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:47,759 Speaker 1: a car and I have not gotten over it, and 816 00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:50,040 Speaker 1: I don't see myself ever getting over it, and so 817 00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:56,040 Speaker 1: it's just been really hard, really hard, and so yeah, 818 00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:59,600 Speaker 1: that is like something that I'm mentally preparing myself for, 819 00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:03,879 Speaker 1: especially on social media, like the way people build these 820 00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:08,479 Speaker 1: beautiful altars for their dogs. Even I'm like, oh, love 821 00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:10,960 Speaker 1: that for you. I can't. I'm not already. 822 00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:13,360 Speaker 2: It's a lot. That's a lot of attention and like 823 00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:17,200 Speaker 2: thinking about the it's just a lot of focus and energy. 824 00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:22,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, but you know, I think it's a 825 00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:24,959 Speaker 1: beautiful tradition and we're still going to do it, and 826 00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:27,799 Speaker 1: as hard as it's going to be. I've actually been 827 00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:32,920 Speaker 1: thinking about going to I haven't been. I've strategically avoided 828 00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:36,600 Speaker 1: the street where he died, and so I have been 829 00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:40,520 Speaker 1: thinking about maybe doing like a public altar, if you will, yeah, 830 00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:44,919 Speaker 1: by the road, a little a little display, but we'll see. 831 00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:46,400 Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm actually ready for that, but 832 00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:47,239 Speaker 1: it's been in my mind. 833 00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:52,320 Speaker 2: That's a beautiful way to remember him. We just recognized 834 00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:56,040 Speaker 2: the anniversary of my grandfather's passing a year ago, so 835 00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:59,239 Speaker 2: for the other and what thos will likely will light 836 00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:03,799 Speaker 2: some candles and you know, my grandmother likes to pray 837 00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:07,279 Speaker 2: the rosary, so maybe a little bit of that. The 838 00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:09,719 Speaker 2: other Moretos is also the same day as my friend 839 00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:14,080 Speaker 2: Lilia's birthday, so she always does something so that ends 840 00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:18,160 Speaker 2: up being kind of like what I am doing on 841 00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:20,920 Speaker 2: the other loss Morthos is somehow like celebrating her birthday 842 00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:22,040 Speaker 2: somehow if she's around. 843 00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:24,920 Speaker 1: So yeah, that's lovely. It is. 844 00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:25,600 Speaker 2: It is. 845 00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:29,200 Speaker 1: It's like a it's like a to like a meeting 846 00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:36,080 Speaker 1: of two things of like birth death anniversaries, you know, 847 00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:39,239 Speaker 1: and a celebration, because that is what the other Martos is, right, 848 00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:42,040 Speaker 1: it is a celebration of of life and memory. 849 00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:47,000 Speaker 2: Very true, Yeah, very true. Yes, yes, yes, it's uh, 850 00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:51,480 Speaker 2: there's a lot of energy exchange there, back and forth 851 00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:55,760 Speaker 2: in a very beautiful way. Yeah, let's see what's next. 852 00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:58,600 Speaker 2: At what moment do you risk it all to follow 853 00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:03,120 Speaker 2: your dreams? I would say, don't risk it all. I mean, 854 00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:05,319 Speaker 2: be able to pay your rent and have like a 855 00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:09,480 Speaker 2: backup plan until you have something concrete coming in is 856 00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:12,400 Speaker 2: what I would say. It's okay to work and follow 857 00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:15,520 Speaker 2: your dreams, and sometimes that's what you have to do. 858 00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:17,440 Speaker 2: I don't know about risking it all. I don't know 859 00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:21,480 Speaker 2: if we've had a moment where we like risked it all. 860 00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:25,320 Speaker 1: No, I think we made very strategic jumps, yeah, and leaps, 861 00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:27,600 Speaker 1: like the leaps came when they had to come. Yeah, 862 00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:30,440 Speaker 1: I think that we didn't. We didn't risk it all 863 00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:33,400 Speaker 1: until we knew there was a safety net because we 864 00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:34,880 Speaker 1: just weren't in a position to do that. 865 00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:39,279 Speaker 2: No, because risking it all means what, oh, now I 866 00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:42,600 Speaker 2: can't pay my bills and now what Like you can't 867 00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:46,640 Speaker 2: follow your dreams? Takes money, is the other piece of it. Yeah, 868 00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:50,080 Speaker 2: And like getting work done being a creative, like it 869 00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:53,160 Speaker 2: takes money to get yourself together and to get yourself 870 00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:55,680 Speaker 2: out there and to build your portfolio and to get 871 00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:59,120 Speaker 2: work done, and so quite often you kind of have 872 00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:02,400 Speaker 2: to be self fun did anyways, and so how are 873 00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:04,560 Speaker 2: you going to do that? You gotta work. So I've 874 00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:08,240 Speaker 2: never been one to say, like, yeah, just take the leap, 875 00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:12,080 Speaker 2: I mean, put it on your vision board, work towards it, 876 00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:15,640 Speaker 2: you know, yes, but don't put yourself in like a 877 00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:18,960 Speaker 2: precarious financial situation that we're going to suffer from. And 878 00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:20,719 Speaker 2: then you can't focus on what you want to do, 879 00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:23,239 Speaker 2: Like you can't focus on the next thing if you're 880 00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:26,000 Speaker 2: just you know, if you have no idea how you're 881 00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:27,000 Speaker 2: going to pay your rent. 882 00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:31,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, that would be my same advice. Don't risk it all, 883 00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:37,720 Speaker 1: strategically risk it all, baby steps, little risks. Yeah, I agree, 884 00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:42,520 Speaker 1: I agree. Okay, final question, what advice would you give 885 00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:46,520 Speaker 1: to your younger self? Oh? Lord, have you seen that meme? 886 00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:49,440 Speaker 1: That's like do it for your younger self or think 887 00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:51,239 Speaker 1: of your younger self? And it's like, why would I 888 00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:53,959 Speaker 1: pay attention to a fifteen year old mentally ill girl? 889 00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:59,400 Speaker 2: Ah? Poor young me? What would I say to my 890 00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:04,160 Speaker 2: younger self? I would say to my younger self, Look, girl, 891 00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:09,440 Speaker 2: you're gonna get through it. Buck up, chin up, You're 892 00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:12,320 Speaker 2: gonna be okay. And I promise that older you is 893 00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:15,920 Speaker 2: gonna give you grace and understanding that I can promise, like, 894 00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:19,480 Speaker 2: don't be afraid to make mistakes because there's forgiveness on 895 00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:22,560 Speaker 2: the other side. And I'm not gonna throw you under 896 00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:27,160 Speaker 2: the bus. I'm gonna defend you. Like That's what I 897 00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:29,439 Speaker 2: would say to my younger self is like I got 898 00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:31,880 Speaker 2: you on the other side. I see you. You're gonna 899 00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:34,480 Speaker 2: be fine. And I'm like, now I'm getting emotional, like 900 00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:37,160 Speaker 2: I've got your back, like make your choices, like do 901 00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:42,040 Speaker 2: your thing, learn and like I'm gonna cover you like 902 00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:43,839 Speaker 2: you are protected. 903 00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:49,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that. That's beautiful. Yeah, I would say 904 00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:53,480 Speaker 1: something similar, you know, like, it's okay to not be perfect. 905 00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:58,239 Speaker 1: It's okay to not know everything. And it's not your 906 00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:01,000 Speaker 1: job to take care of other people. Actually just a kid. 907 00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:05,440 Speaker 1: And when you're older, I got you. I will take 908 00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:09,520 Speaker 1: care of you, and I will nurture you, and I 909 00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:14,160 Speaker 1: will make sure your emotional needs are met. So it's 910 00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:17,000 Speaker 1: okay to make a mistake. It's okay to not have straight. 911 00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:18,640 Speaker 2: A's ooh big one. 912 00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:24,359 Speaker 1: It's okay to not have the highest GPA ooh big one. Yes, 913 00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:28,680 Speaker 1: Catholic schoolgirl here. It's hard. They're mean to us. It's 914 00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:32,080 Speaker 1: gonna work out, and you know what, the tattoos are fine. 915 00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:36,320 Speaker 1: You're your own boss. Now, it's cool. You got it. 916 00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:37,600 Speaker 2: Literally, nobody cares. 917 00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:41,160 Speaker 1: Nobody cares. My boss Mala said it was fine. 918 00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:43,200 Speaker 2: Get more. 919 00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:44,359 Speaker 1: There we go. 920 00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:49,040 Speaker 2: Great questions, y'all, Yeah, thank. 921 00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:51,480 Speaker 1: You so much for listening to another episode of lok 922 00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:54,919 Speaker 1: A Radio. This was a fun episode to make. We've 923 00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:58,480 Speaker 1: done some heavy episodes this season. Yes, it's nice to 924 00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:01,719 Speaker 1: take a moment to answer the questions. Connect with you 925 00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:04,879 Speaker 1: all in this way and also connect with each other. 926 00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:10,680 Speaker 2: Yes, we laughed, we cried, we did it all. So 927 00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:12,759 Speaker 2: thank you for tuning in to another episode of look 928 00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:15,760 Speaker 2: at Radio. 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