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Speaker 2: Now here's your host, Jen Mueller. John Boyle.

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Speaker 3: There is a real good chance that we are going

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Speaker 3: to have converging rivers at Lumenfield on Sunday morning.

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Speaker 1: Wow, right off the top, right off, before we started

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Speaker 1: this podcast, she promised a pun and that was that was.

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Speaker 2: I mean, right out of the gate, atmospheric.

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Speaker 4: River and a Phillip Philip Rivers.

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Speaker 3: Yes, if, by the way, you are impacted by the

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Speaker 3: atmospheric river, please stay safe.

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Speaker 2: We are thinking about you. It is really not fun.

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Speaker 3: Right now in many areas around Seattle with so much rain.

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Speaker 3: But on the football side of things, John, I saw

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Speaker 3: the news starting to come out on Monday and like,

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Speaker 3: there is no way, Yeah, there's no way they're signing

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Speaker 3: Philip Rivers.

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Speaker 1: And then it's there's no way he could play, right,

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Speaker 1: And now it looks like he just might well.

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Speaker 3: And then it's kind of interesting the way that you

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Speaker 3: look at this and you're like, you know, he was

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Speaker 3: going to go into the Hall of Fame, yeah, right,

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Speaker 3: And now if he plays, So we are assuming that

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Speaker 3: he's going to play, because everybody's kind of talking like that.

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Speaker 3: But if he plays, you have to reset that. In

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Speaker 3: my mind, I'm thinking, why would I want to put

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Speaker 3: that off? And then as I think about it, I'm like, well,

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Speaker 3: if you're a Hall of Famer, then you're probably going

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Speaker 1: I don't know if he was a lock to go

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Speaker 1: in first time, so maybe this is his way to.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if he goes on a little streak at

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Speaker 1: the end of the season and leads him to the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: I think that'd be a nice little little add to

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Speaker 4: But you know, let's not let that streak start on Sunday.

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Speaker 5: No.

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Speaker 3: And it was really funny because that news was breaking

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Speaker 3: as I was talking to Robbie Tobeck. He joined me

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Speaker 3: in the kitchen this week for a new episode of

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Speaker 3: I Cook You Measure, and I'm like, Robbie, like Robbie's

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Speaker 3: fifty five, and I said, could you imagine going back

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Speaker 2: He said no. I said, but have you ever seen

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Speaker 2: anything like that before? He goes, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Actually, my old teammate Steve de Bergh did it in Atlanta.

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Speaker 2: And he goes, here's the craziest thing.

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Speaker 3: So Steve de Berg was forty four when he was

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Speaker 3: re signed by the Atlanta Falcons. He goes, We we

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Speaker 3: were at some like basketball event and the halftime like

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Speaker 3: thing was. He was sponsored by one of the companies

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Speaker 3: in the area, and so Robbie happened to be at

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Speaker 3: the game, was like, Oh, yeah, that's what he's doing now.

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Speaker 3: And then the next week shows up to practice and

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Speaker 3: he's like, who's that guy throwing passes over there?

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.

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Speaker 1: I will say it's probably unique to that position, or

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Speaker 1: maybe a kicker could do it, But it's funny. Some

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Speaker 1: in the press conferences people were asking, you know, like

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Speaker 1: Cooper Cup and Leo, can you imagine doing That's? Well, no,

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Speaker 1: you can't step away from playing defensive line for five

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Speaker 4: But yeah, quarterback.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's a big physical nature of that position,

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Speaker 1: but so much of it is the processing, the knowing,

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Speaker 1: the offense, exeking all that. So as long as his

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Speaker 1: it'll be interesting.

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Speaker 4: I'm curiously what he looks like.

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Speaker 2: It will be interesting.

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Speaker 3: He has been a high school coach for a number

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Speaker 3: of years, so you know that he's been throwing it around.

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Speaker 3: He's still been in the game, and I guess I

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Speaker 3: mean Mike McDonald kind of says it best.

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Speaker 6: It's the NFL man, you know, So every week is different.

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Speaker 6: It's finally we had something kind of crazy happened this

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Speaker 4: But that that's kind of it.

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Speaker 6: I mean, just if anybody can pull it off, it's him,

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Speaker 6: And uh guy's probably one of the best competitors in

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Speaker 6: So we're getting ready for him, like he's been playing

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Speaker 1: I mean, I mean this in the best way possible.

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Speaker 2: Which I like. I am so impressed by that discipline.

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Speaker 1: But like that's a big reason why you just can't

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Speaker 1: maybe hasn't been training to play football, but when you're

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Speaker 4: Ball around every day.

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Speaker 1: So I you know, it's crazy as sounds for a

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Speaker 4: I think he could have all sparking him.

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Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing.

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Speaker 3: I am more concerned about his first game out of

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Speaker 3: second game out of the gates. Right, you're gonna feel

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Speaker 3: pretty good now, that's right up until you get hit

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Speaker 2: But that soreness that's not gonna kick in for another

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Speaker 4: So he's gonna be fresh.

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Speaker 3: There's gonna be a lot of adrenaline that's gonna be

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Speaker 3: I do actually, I mean I'm concerning any to him

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Speaker 1: This run and basically the offense he ran his whole

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Speaker 1: And then we're gonna have this whole conversation is gonna

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Speaker 1: be Riley Leonard.

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Speaker 4: Oops.

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Speaker 2: Well, okay, so let's just back this up a second.

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Speaker 3: Riley Leonard was the quarterback that took over for Daniel Jones,

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Speaker 2: He did practice early in the week.

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Speaker 3: They are not saying, obviously for competitive reasons, whether he

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Speaker 3: And Mike McDonald said, look, there's a unique challenge in

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Speaker 3: both of them because on Monday we were talking to

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Speaker 3: based on what they might do.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is your classic, like, let's do what we do,

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Speaker 1: let's dictate terms. I mean, this is one of the

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Speaker 1: like if it's Riley Leonard, He's gonna run around more

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Speaker 1: if it's Rivers, you're gonna get a guy who stays

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Speaker 1: He's a guy that can move, so that part you

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Speaker 3: Just Philip Rivers, though, he's so stubborn and he's he

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Speaker 2: I'm not talking about weight, I'm talking like stature.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a classic like he'll stand in there knowing

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Speaker 1: I'm really curious to see what this looks like if

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Speaker 3: And this Colts offense has been rolling all year long now.

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Speaker 3: They were the feel good story when the Colts started

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Speaker 2: They have since.

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Speaker 3: Lost four out of their last five games. But John

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Speaker 3: I started looking at these numbers. The Colts and the

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Speaker 3: the Hawks are two of seven teams to score at

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Speaker 3: least twenty points in every game. The Colts have outscored

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Speaker 3: opponents by ninety one points. That is the fourth most

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Speaker 3: a big difference there at the most. But they're also

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Speaker 3: two of the three teams that have at least four

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Speaker 3: those are some pretty big numbers. And I don't think

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Speaker 6: It's their offense. It's very distinct to what they do.

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Speaker 6: It's complimentary, it's tough, it's very situational sound.

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Speaker 4: They're explosive. The quarterback operates.

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Speaker 1: You can't under sell losing a quarterback. Dan Jones is

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Speaker 1: playing really well, so that's a big blow for them.

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Speaker 1: But you're right, like, this is not just a quarterback

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Speaker 1: the running back. They have an incredible running game led

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Speaker 1: by Jonathan Taylor, one of the very best in the league.

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Speaker 1: So it's this is not a situation of other quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Got heard, this team's cooked. They can't compete like this

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Speaker 1: is going to be a tough test for the Seahawks defense,

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Speaker 1: regardless of who's an under center.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Part of the reason that they have been good is

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Speaker 3: the yards gained on first down. They are gaining at

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Speaker 3: least four yards on over fifty percent of their first

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Speaker 3: move the sticks with that kind of efficiency, that's going

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Speaker 3: to be a big deal. Wide receiver Alec Pierce leads

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Speaker 3: twenty four with the record for that. Now JSN has

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Speaker 3: almost double the total yards, but if you're just talking

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Speaker 2: And of course, the.

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Speaker 3: Running back that you mentioned, Jonathan Taylor, And here's what's

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Speaker 3: interesting about this matchup. He averages over one hundred yards

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Speaker 3: a game. Your Seattle Seahawks have not allowed a one

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Speaker 3: hundred yard rusher in twenty two straight games.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and they had a tough test last week, it

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean that streak is really impressive. I

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Speaker 1: think it's, you know, first and foremost, it speaks to

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Speaker 1: how good this run defense is. But it also has

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Speaker 1: a lot to do with team success overall, like this year,

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Speaker 1: the way their offense is keeping the ball, driving score

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Speaker 4: And then look, it helps a lot when you get

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Speaker 1: Yes, if that game last week stayed six to six

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Speaker 3: I think I've always heard that from defensive line coaches,

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Speaker 2: The attention to hear it from a.

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Speaker 3: Team wide messaging is what's different for me with this defense.

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Speaker 3: You know, what Adam Dirty really wanted to see the

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Speaker 2: We don't care because we're gonna win anyway.

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Speaker 3: This team has dialed in, like they whether they look

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well they a lot of the defensive players came

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Speaker 1: But if you get up two three scores on team,

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Speaker 1: Micdonald's as fired up as if that had been a

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Speaker 3: And conversely, right, you were still in danger of giving

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Speaker 2: Yea, with what a minute and a half to go.

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Speaker 3: Those thirty two yards that he got thirty two to

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Speaker 3: celebration on the sideline of what this meant not just

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Speaker 3: that he got the carries, but the defense could be like, okay,

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Speaker 3: defend it again. The offense kind of picked that one up.

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Speaker 3: The defense, by the way, has not allowed a touchdown

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Speaker 3: two games by a combined sixty three tonight. Now, I

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Speaker 3: am not jinxing anything. I am simply presenting the facts.

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Speaker 3: Because people like to call this a jinx, it is not.

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Speaker 3: I am presenting the facts. It has been seven years

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Speaker 3: The defense is now at full strength. The Colts have

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Speaker 4: Let's go for the whole game. I why a corner

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Speaker 4: or half, Jen, I'm always telling to be greedy.

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Speaker 2: Greedy, always telling me it doesn't have to.

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Speaker 1: Be No, this is a I look, the Stevens is

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Speaker 4: With that run game and some of the weapons I have.

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Speaker 3: It's like we need to build an arc for the

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Speaker 2: So let's just back up a second and let's.

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Speaker 3: Get Mike McDonald's evaluation of how they played against Bijon

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Speaker 6: Well, we did enough to win the game. It wasn't

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Speaker 6: I think the guys were a little bit frustrated come

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Speaker 6: to be, you know what I was pleased with. Our

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Speaker 6: We can fix all the you know, the technical things

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean to Mike's point, it wasn't a perfect, you

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Speaker 1: He's a great back, but you hold him to what

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Speaker 1: Like that's what jumps out to me, is like he

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Speaker 3: I kind of get that.

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Speaker 3: So last week we talked about the elusiveness of Robinson

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Speaker 3: That match I'm not saying it's easy. I kind of

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's a different challenge.

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Speaker 1: The thing with him is like you cannot let him

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Speaker 1: sometimes that like shifty, more elusive guy, I can give

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I'm sure that that's going to be a

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Speaker 3: And I will say for that thirteen last I know

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I did not realize that number until after

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Speaker 2: John, you promised you were going to wear the hat.

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Speaker 1: I'm really enjoying my new career as a hat model, Jen,

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Speaker 1: I do you know it's a good time.

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Speaker 3: It's yes, And you are far less likely to have

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Speaker 3: to be a hat model, just don't cut your hair, yeah,

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Speaker 3: or do cut your hair?

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking the scene in Austin Powers when he keeps

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Speaker 3: The one and dumb and dumber our pets heads are

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Speaker 3: following off. Okay, completely digressed on this one.

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Speaker 2: It is a good looking hat. You can go pick

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Speaker 2: it up in the Seahawks pro shop.

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Speaker 3: I would actually build in a little time on game

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Speaker 3: day to cruise through because that one at the stadium

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Speaker 3: is pretty awesome. Okay, I digress. We spent a lot

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Speaker 3: of time talking about the Seahawks defense. I think sometimes

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Speaker 3: lost in the mix is how good this offense is. John,

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Speaker 3: I mean, like, do.

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Speaker 2: We give them enough credit or are.

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Speaker 1: Probably not because I think the defense gets so much

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Speaker 1: attention rightly so, but like, this is one of the

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Speaker 1: top offensive teams in the league by just about any measure.

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Speaker 1: In their you know what are they second and scoring

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Speaker 1: their ninth and total yards. Their run game is improving,

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Speaker 1: which is a big deal, averaging six yards of play

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Speaker 1: that's a that's a healthy mark right there. So there's

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Speaker 1: a lot going on in Clint Kubiak's offense that you

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Speaker 1: gotta love. And I mean, obviously is starting with Sam

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Speaker 1: Darnold and Jackson Smith and Jigbo what they're doing. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean it's it's really really encouraging and probably a

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Speaker 1: little overshadowed to your point by the defense.

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Speaker 3: Well, you were averaging just under thirty points a game,

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Speaker 3: that second most in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: Few with sacks allowed.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we've seen a couple more of them in the

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Speaker 3: last couple of weeks, but still, by and large, Sam

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Speaker 3: Darnald has time to throw passing yards per play that's

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Speaker 3: most in the NFL, with just a shade under nine.

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Speaker 3: That point differential, what we already mentioned is really impressive.

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Speaker 2: When I take a.

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Speaker 3: Look at the Colts overall, their defense is giving up

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Speaker 3: about three hundred and forty five yards a game that

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Speaker 3: is twenty third in the NFL. So they're in the

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Speaker 3: bottom of total yards. But where it's really gonna get tough,

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Speaker 3: John is in that run game, because They're run defense

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Speaker 3: is sixth in the league. Seattle's is fourth. But what

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Speaker 3: do we like about what we have seen from either

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Speaker 3: maintaining the run game or just kind of the growth

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Speaker 3: of that run game the last couple of weeks.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean we've talked about this last few weeks.

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Speaker 1: They're running the ball better. They averaged five yards to

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Speaker 1: carry last week, which and that was without really.

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Speaker 4: Like they didn't get canine going the way they have

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Speaker 4: been in recent weeks.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, again, like they're blocking it well up front,

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Speaker 1: the two backs are are They're doing good job. Then

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Speaker 1: I like we saw a little bit more of Sam

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Speaker 1: Darnold a run them with the ball. That that was

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Speaker 1: a nice little element that we haven't seen a lot

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Speaker 1: of the season. That maybe that's a good little change

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Speaker 1: up if teams are blitzing in down the stretch here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I wonder how much of that is you just

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Speaker 3: kind of hold that one in your pocket for a

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Speaker 3: little bit and now you've got to give them something

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Speaker 3: else to think about. I thought those were really well

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Speaker 3: timed runs. Yeah, I think it was all because of

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Speaker 3: the pressure and what he had. But I do think

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Speaker 3: that that part of his game is a little bit underrated.

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Speaker 3: I would like to see a few more of those yards.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's just that's a really good athlete.

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Speaker 1: We haven't seen him run a ton this year, but

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Speaker 1: it's they've had successfully do it, so that that could

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Speaker 1: be a nice little thing to look hard to play

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Speaker 1: late in the season here.

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Speaker 3: Jackson Smith and Jig but gets back on track last week.

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Speaker 3: I don't think there was any doubt that he was

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Speaker 3: going to But was there a sigh of relief? Could

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Speaker 3: you feel it with either the mail bag that you

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Speaker 3: do every week, could you feel it with like fans

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Speaker 3: that hey, it was just we just needed to see

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Speaker 3: him come back with that?

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Speaker 4: I think so.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think, you know, nobody on the team

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Speaker 1: was worried about Jackson Smith and Jig was not, but

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Speaker 1: fans tend to, you know, and fantasy football is part

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Speaker 1: of this, if we're being honest, Like some people probably

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Speaker 1: lost fantasy football games that week because they're counting on

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Speaker 1: him and it wasn't his biggest game. But yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: there was never any concern that he's gonna get back

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Speaker 1: on track. He's been too good all season to worry

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Speaker 1: about that. And yeah, I think you know you mentioned mailbag.

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Speaker 1: I joked that Vikings games they shout him out twenty

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Speaker 1: six to nothing, and then negativity, like every question was

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Speaker 1: complaining about the offensive line or what's wrong with Jackson

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Speaker 1: Smith and Jig, but was like they just shot a

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Speaker 1: team out in the NFL.

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Speaker 4: So yes, that was a little more positive this week.

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Speaker 3: Although that also tells me where the standards that's true?

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Speaker 3: I mean you kind of actually want that, Yeah, point,

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Speaker 3: WI kind of expect perfection. I guess, well, I perfection's

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Speaker 3: a high bar, but yes we can if we fall

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Speaker 3: just below that, that's okay.

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Speaker 2: I do not expect perfection.

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Speaker 3: I do, however, expect you to give me the two

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Speaker 3: things that you need to see for a Seahawks win.

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Speaker 2: All right, John, what do you got for me?

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Speaker 1: I mean the most obvious one is going to be

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Speaker 1: stopping Taylor, but I want to kind of play off that.

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Speaker 1: If you can do that and get in some passing situations,

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Speaker 1: you're either getting a rookie quarterback or a forty four

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Speaker 1: year old who has not been hit in a long time.

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Speaker 1: I want some pressure. I want to be hitting the quarterback.

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Speaker 1: You know, let's call it. Like, I don't even care

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Speaker 1: about the sacks. I get a couple of sacks, fine,

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Speaker 1: but I want like nine or ten quarterback hits. Make

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Speaker 1: it tough on the guys back there.

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Speaker 3: And could I be greedy on that one and say

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Speaker 3: I want that in the first series, like I want

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Speaker 3: so much, I don't even care. And quite honestly, this

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Speaker 3: is going to sound bad. I don't care if you

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Speaker 3: get a flag on the opening series. I'm I'm not

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Speaker 3: calling for the late hits. I am not no, no,

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Speaker 3: I am not calling for the late hit. I am

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Speaker 3: just saying, if you happen to finish the play and

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Speaker 3: the official things that you hurt his feelings a little

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Speaker 3: too much and the flag gets dropped, I will live

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Speaker 3: with that one.

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Speaker 1: Looks like The Longest Yard when they got brass knuckles

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Speaker 1: and just flying kicks and everything.

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Speaker 2: What do you think do I look like that type

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Speaker 2: of person?

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Speaker 4: I mean, you just called for flags on the front.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it was covering my bases. Alright, okay, fine, keep going.

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Speaker 4: I want to see more over Shid Shahid.

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Speaker 1: I really like what that element of the offense brought,

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Speaker 1: where I remember that one thirty three yarder where it's

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Speaker 1: just Jackson's and Jigbow going deep and it just cleared

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Speaker 1: out the underneath those who playing off each other. I

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Speaker 1: think could really be a big addition to this offense

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Speaker 1: on the stretch. So we saw him four for sixty

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Speaker 1: seven last week. Obviously the kicker turn was great too,

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Speaker 1: but I just want to see him getting more involved

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Speaker 1: in the offense. That's going to open stuff up really

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Speaker 1: in the run end pass game.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to go also with special teams right now.

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Speaker 3: The kickoff the average start has been really good for

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Speaker 3: the Seahawks. They're at the thirty two yard line, which

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Speaker 3: is pretty good. But on the other side of that one,

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Speaker 3: I just want to see special teams pin the Colts

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Speaker 3: deep and make them.

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Speaker 4: Go that long field.

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Speaker 1: And that's Jason Myers and the cover teams been big

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Speaker 1: at that this year. Their opponents have the worst starting

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Speaker 1: field position after kickoffs in the NFL. There the twenty

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Speaker 1: seven point eighty yard line. So that's Jason Myers doing

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Speaker 1: some fun kickoffs and also great coverage.

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Speaker 3: Yes, and if it's going to be rainy and crappy,

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Speaker 3: and yeah, I know that they get a lot of

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Speaker 3: yards on first down, but I just want to make

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Speaker 3: them go the entire field and have to deal with

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Speaker 3: that one.

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Speaker 2: I mean, on the defensive side of things, I.

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Speaker 4: Don't give up a touchdown. I mean, I'm or just

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Speaker 4: keep the turnovers rolling too. They got eight in the

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Speaker 4: last two games there.

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Speaker 2: That is true.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot to pick from, and I realized I

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Speaker 3: should have really picked just one.

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Speaker 1: But I would like the touchdown going. I likes without

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Speaker 1: a touchdown would be great.

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Speaker 2: That would be impressive. I mean, like this defense is

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Speaker 2: already impressive, but I would like to be talking about that.

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Speaker 2: Next week, I'll be doing my own celebration dance on

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Speaker 2: the sideline.

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Speaker 4: If that happens, let's get a camera on that.

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Speaker 3: I dance once a year, John, it is at the

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Speaker 3: holiday party, but maybe I will dance twice on Sunday.

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Speaker 2: That is how we are going to close out this

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Speaker 2: edition

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Speaker 3: Of The Insiders podcast with Gen dancing next week,