1 00:00:01,960 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 1: Ron and Ian because the A B S didn't function, 2 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 1: the sperometer didn't work, the PCM, the powertrain control module, 3 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:12,319 Speaker 1: and the TCM the trans control module, didn't have any 4 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 1: input on vehicle speed. It did not know how to 5 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:25,919 Speaker 1: shift the transmission. The Car Doctor, I understand there was 6 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 1: a light recall tail light recall, and we've also seen 7 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:33,199 Speaker 1: a few of the g ms of that generation with 8 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:36,240 Speaker 1: a seam week. Welcome to the radio home of Ron 9 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 1: Andanian the Car Doctor, since this is where car owners 10 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:45,520 Speaker 1: the world overturned to for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. 11 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 1: If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up 12 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 1: the phone and call in the garage doors are open, 13 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 1: but I am here to take your call. At eight 14 00:00:54,560 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 1: five and now he a running. Did you ever feel 15 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 1: like the world have gone nuts and you were just 16 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 1: a spectator? Start your engines. I'm Ronanni in the Car Doctor. 17 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 1: Joined me for the next two hours, an hour at 18 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 1: a time as we sit and talk about the world 19 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 1: of automotive repairs and what's going on and how you're 20 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 1: gonna drive and how you're gonna get there and everything 21 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 1: in between. Hello and welcome. I'm Rondinni in the Car 22 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 1: Doctor article this this month in New Jersey on Motive 23 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 1: magazine or regional magazine out of New Jersey. Obviously, day 24 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:27,039 Speaker 1: of reckoning or autonomous cars are real threat to the industry. 25 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:31,399 Speaker 1: That's on the front page Autonomous cars face New York City. 26 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 1: Let's see, this is out of the Bergen record. This 27 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:40,319 Speaker 1: is Wednesday, October eighteen talking about General Motors bringing autonomous 28 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 1: vehicles to the streets of Manhattan, Lower Manhattan. Listen, I've 29 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 1: been down Lower Manhattan. Okay. You can hardly walk in 30 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 1: broad daylight. Okay, and see where you're going on a 31 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 1: sunny day. Now you're gonna put a blind robot down 32 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 1: there and hope that he can get the signals around 33 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 1: the buildings. No, not for me. That isn't even what 34 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 1: I wanted to talk to you about. I wanted to 35 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 1: make the point with those two articles to get you 36 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:10,080 Speaker 1: thinking I had a car this week. Had two cars 37 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:12,360 Speaker 1: this week. One was the two thousand six Hummer Age 38 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 1: two came in three weeks ago with a problem that 39 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:19,800 Speaker 1: it wouldn't shift out of park, and you know, you 40 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 1: put your foot on the brake, key on, started up, 41 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 1: foot on the brake, go to shift, won't shift out 42 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:29,080 Speaker 1: of park, intermittent problem, and this is my complaint. I 43 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 1: wanted to how the manufacturers are gonna deal with this, 44 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:34,359 Speaker 1: all right, because I've gotten your emails and I've seen 45 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 1: your statements to me that I'm blowing this out of proportion, 46 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:40,640 Speaker 1: and I'm telling you I'm not. Electric cars and autonomous 47 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:44,079 Speaker 1: cars are going to be a problem. Get used to it. 48 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 1: The two thousand six Hummer came in and it wouldn't 49 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 1: shift in out of park. It was stuck in gear, 50 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 1: but it didn't do it. Whenever I saw the vehicle, 51 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:58,080 Speaker 1: it was intermittent. And you've got to be an idiot 52 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 1: to think that autonomous and electric cars are gonna have 53 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:03,239 Speaker 1: intermittent issues. It's gotta be. It's gotta be the next 54 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 1: thing too impossible. So there's those six Hummer came in, 55 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 1: couldn't duplicate the problem, sat and talked to the customer 56 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 1: because a customer interview was always part of every diagnosis 57 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 1: that I do, that a lot of shops do. And 58 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 1: I came to the conclusion that it's worth it to 59 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 1: throw a brake light switch at this car. It's the 60 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 1: number one failure. If if we start reading pattern relational 61 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:28,079 Speaker 1: databases on what fails. Brake lights switches the number one fault. 62 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 1: It's the biggest concern they've got. Let's throw a brake 63 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:33,360 Speaker 1: light switch at it. When I mentioned that to the customer, 64 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 1: she said, you know, every once in a while, the 65 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 1: brake lights would be stuck on or off, or they 66 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 1: wouldn't work. And my daughter would tell me, I have 67 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 1: no breake lights, and good, there's a clue. Let's put 68 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 1: a brake light switch in it. Put a brake light 69 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 1: switch in it. General Motors right out of GM's parts. 70 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 1: Been in down the road Monday this week. I walk 71 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 1: in and there's the H two sitting on the parking 72 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 1: lot of the shop with a note, Hey, we're on 73 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 1: the shifters acting up again. Maybe it's maybe it's different problem, 74 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 1: you know, in terms of since it was intermittent before, 75 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 1: maybe now you can diagnose it because now it's a 76 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 1: hard failure. It does it all the time. Yeah, no problem. 77 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 1: I can fix any car that's broken intermittence just take 78 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 1: a little while longer. So I went through my usual 79 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 1: diagnostic drill, and you know, it just it never really 80 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 1: occurred to me. Maybe denials more than a river in 81 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:24,279 Speaker 1: Egypt in my mind, but I just didn't want to 82 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 1: admit that it possibly could be. But yeah, I guess 83 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 1: what bad new break light switch? New never ever worked? Right, 84 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 1: There's gonna be the mantra for our show when I die, 85 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 1: They're gonna say two things on the tombstone. One I 86 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 1: told you I was sick, and the other is new 87 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 1: never ever worked. So you know, put a new breake 88 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:42,279 Speaker 1: light switch in it. Or I tried to put a 89 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:44,840 Speaker 1: new break light switch in it, got another switch out 90 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 1: of G M. A C. Del Go, put it in, 91 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 1: didn't work. Maybe I diagnosed this wrong. Let's see, I've 92 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 1: got three wires coming into the shift actuator that I'm 93 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 1: concerned with. There's a black which goes over to ground 94 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:58,359 Speaker 1: two oh three. In the right kick panel. There's a 95 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 1: green black which comes right from the use, and there's 96 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:02,840 Speaker 1: a green white that comes from the fuse and then 97 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:05,479 Speaker 1: is interrupted in between by the brake light switch. That's 98 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:09,840 Speaker 1: the signal. Take take my digital voltometer out. I've got ground. 99 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:12,719 Speaker 1: I've got fourteen volts engine running on the on the 100 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 1: green with the black, and I've got fourteen vaults on 101 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:17,039 Speaker 1: the green with the white. And when I step on 102 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 1: the brake lights switch. It's gotta drop to zero. It doesn't. 103 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 1: It stays at fourteen. I got I got a bad 104 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:26,040 Speaker 1: break light switch. It's not interrupting the signal. All right, okay, 105 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 1: so you know what I've got two bad parts. Must 106 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 1: be a bad batch. Try a different vendor. Get another 107 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 1: brake lights, get another Delko GM breake light switch. Plugging 108 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:40,159 Speaker 1: in it doesn't work. At this point, I almost need therapy. 109 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:43,279 Speaker 1: I've got three bad switches. So I call up a 110 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 1: friend of mine of the dealership. I said, listen, let 111 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 1: me run this past you one time, and I explained 112 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:48,840 Speaker 1: everything I'm doing. He goes, you're right, it's a bad 113 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:50,679 Speaker 1: break light switch. I go, well, I'm on my third 114 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:53,679 Speaker 1: one and I can't seem to get one that works. 115 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 1: He says, keep going remember the expression. I go. Yeah. 116 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 1: I know, no part is considered good until it's proven 117 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:02,559 Speaker 1: that it works. So oh, I try a different vendor. 118 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 1: Put in air Text. Air Text is a decent brand. 119 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 1: Just let me just try a different vendor. Let's just 120 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 1: see where this goes. Plug it in doesn't work. Four 121 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 1: break light switches now as a failure in three weeks. Now, 122 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:18,600 Speaker 1: I'm really starting to think like I'm losing it. Okay, 123 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:20,600 Speaker 1: I don't know how to fix cars anymore. It's over. 124 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 1: Let's just go home, let's close up the shop. Making 125 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 1: a hotdog stand. One more time, I go through it 126 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:29,600 Speaker 1: one more time. I look at I sit, and I 127 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 1: spend another half hour reading everything I go and this 128 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 1: is a bad break light switch. You know what the 129 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 1: definition of insanity is. I used to think it was 130 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 1: repeating and doing the same thing over and over again, 131 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 1: expecting a different outcome. The definition of insanity is doubting 132 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 1: yourself when you know you're right, because you are, you're 133 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 1: not wrong. Voltages voltage ground is ground, and and the 134 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 1: two have to really display exactly what's going on. Ordered 135 00:06:56,400 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 1: my fifth break light switch, fourth from a c GO, 136 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 1: plugged it in. It worked, It absolutely worked. I was right. 137 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:07,839 Speaker 1: Hit the brake, pedal drops to zero, vaults to shift. 138 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 1: Actuator works like hooray, all right. It was not that 139 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 1: I've ever had the experience, but I think I kind 140 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 1: of understand what it's like to give birth because you're 141 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 1: just like God, it's over, you know, It's like hooray. Okay, 142 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 1: I'm not insane, I'm not stupid. I know how to 143 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 1: do this. I can. I can work on this car 144 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 1: for a living. The next car that came in and 145 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 1: there's a reason I'm telling you this, all right, eight 146 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 1: eight Lincoln town Car. The brake lights didn't work. I 147 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 1: guess what was bid yep? I needed a break light switch. Now, 148 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 1: the difference between eight and in a two thousand and 149 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 1: six anything is about six wires, all right. The eight 150 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 1: eight had two wires, had a hot in and in 151 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 1: a signal out, where the OH six had hot in 152 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 1: signal out, BCM control, brake, pedal control, shift, actuator control. 153 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: There's five wires going into the OH six brake light switch. 154 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 1: Put a brick light switch. Got a Motorcraft, I said, 155 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 1: I'll fix this. I'll stay with the manufacturer. I'll put 156 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 1: a Motorcraft brake light switch in this eighty eight Lincoln 157 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 1: town Car. Order it up, put it in. It doesn't work. 158 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 1: You know it's gotta be. I was thinking of I 159 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 1: was gonna like shave my head and start selling candles 160 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 1: at the airport and just you know, just just trying 161 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 1: to put a better air of energy around the shop, 162 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 1: just thinking, you know, I was gonna get out there 163 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 1: and shanton do you home? You know, just looking for 164 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: a way to clear the negativity because I'm thinking, like, 165 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:34,559 Speaker 1: can't be I said, now, I can do this one 166 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 1: of two ways. Having learned from the hummer. I can 167 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 1: sit and I can continue to buy manufacturers parts which 168 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:42,559 Speaker 1: we all believe to be the best, which I still 169 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 1: do in some cases. All Right, I can go buy 170 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 1: the cheapest piece of junk I can and put it 171 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:49,200 Speaker 1: on the car, and let's see what happens. Sure enough, 172 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 1: I go out and I find one of the cheesiest parts, 173 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 1: I mean, maiden China. I would never use it in 174 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 1: a gazillion years. Put it in, plugged it in car work. 175 00:08:57,080 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 1: That's gone. That was three days ago. The more to 176 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 1: the story is, you want to put an electric car together, 177 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 1: you want to do autonomous cars, You want cars to 178 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 1: drive themselves. You wanted to depend on these things. You 179 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 1: can't even get internal combustion people driven vehicles to operate 180 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:17,680 Speaker 1: properly or be repaired properly because we can't get parts. 181 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 1: And now you're gonna tell me we're gonna let cars 182 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 1: loose on the population. You don't have to worry about terrorism, 183 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 1: that we're gonna wipe ourselves out with the quality of 184 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 1: vehicles that we're gonna attempt to put on the road. Yes, 185 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 1: Mr Ray, did you see the article I sent you 186 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 1: last week about the autonomous cars causing accidents? Oh? Yeah, 187 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 1: and that's and I get it. I get it that 188 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 1: we've got to go to autonomous cars. I've get it 189 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 1: that it's the next evolution. But we're not ready. It's 190 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 1: not a perfect world. We I just don't believe we 191 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 1: can control manufacturing that well to get it to the 192 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 1: point where it's going to work all the time. You know, 193 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 1: technology and change, you're just part of life. I understand that. 194 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 1: But when I look at some of the simpler things, 195 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 1: when I look at something as as simple as a 196 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 1: two wire break light switch or a five wire circuit 197 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 1: shift actuator control, and we can't get that right. And 198 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 1: you're gonna put a self driving car in Lower Manhattan 199 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 1: and expected to operate safely. I used to walk down 200 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:26,679 Speaker 1: Wall Street in Lower Manhattan in another lifetime and another 201 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 1: portion of this career, waiting to do the show, and 202 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:32,080 Speaker 1: I would walk around trying to talk on my cell phone. 203 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 1: I couldn't get a cell phone signal in Lower Manhattan, 204 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:37,840 Speaker 1: all right, So if I can't get a cell phone signal, 205 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 1: how in the hell am I gonna get a signal 206 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 1: to the car that the car is gonna know where 207 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 1: to go? And never mind that, but the roads down 208 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:47,080 Speaker 1: there are so narrow because that those are the first 209 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:49,959 Speaker 1: roads built down there, And it's like, how are in 210 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 1: the way people park? Oh my goodness, Well, I've got 211 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:54,320 Speaker 1: to figure it out. The only way autonomous cars are 212 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 1: gonna work in Lower Manhattan is they're gonna have to 213 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:59,440 Speaker 1: let a New york or program them, all right, They're 214 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:01,960 Speaker 1: gonna have to let the New Yorker program the software, 215 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 1: and and somewhere within that software, the car's gonna have 216 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 1: to figure out to give the other driver the single 217 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 1: digit salute. I hate the same Tony Anderson here figuring 218 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 1: out the words they're gonna have to use, right, you know. 219 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 1: It's it's because New Yorkers just drive a certain particular way. 220 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 1: So when the cars interface with each other, they're gonna 221 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:22,080 Speaker 1: have to talk to each other in a New York 222 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 1: language to get that New York flavor and theme of mind. Anyway, 223 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:28,320 Speaker 1: that's my story opening up today, folks. Honest to god, 224 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 1: two cars too bad, well more than a few bad 225 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 1: brick light switches, But um, just I don't know. It's 226 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:37,199 Speaker 1: get it while you can, because cars are just gonna 227 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:39,559 Speaker 1: change a whole lot in the next five years, ten years, 228 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:42,199 Speaker 1: fifteen years. I just hope, I just hope we're going 229 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:45,440 Speaker 1: in the right direction. Eight five zero nine nine zero 230 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 1: zero is the Car Doctor seven toll free number. Give 231 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:50,199 Speaker 1: us a call, and to keep in mind, if you're 232 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 1: podcasting via our website Car Doctors Show dot com, you 233 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:56,440 Speaker 1: can call eight five five five zero nine zero zero anytime, 234 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 1: day or night. Leave a message and one of our 235 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:01,720 Speaker 1: producers Dine Oh Dan or the illustrious Tom Ray. We'll 236 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 1: call you back and hook you up and put you 237 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 1: in Q for the next live broadcast. We are live 238 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 1: on the network Saturday afternoons to to four pm. And 239 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:10,439 Speaker 1: when I come back, I want to talk about the 240 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 1: scan tool I want to give away next weekend that 241 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 1: Tom won't let me give away. So it's all his fault, folks, um, 242 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 1: I just want to put blame where it squarely should be. 243 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 1: So anyway, there it is, rodd and ending the Car 244 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:27,839 Speaker 1: Doctor back right after this welcome back end of the 245 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 1: Car Doctor zero nine zero zero. I've got to figured 246 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 1: out I was thinking about it during the break, so 247 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 1: I bet. What they'll do with autonomous cars is you know, 248 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:38,960 Speaker 1: they're gonna speak in morse code by headlights. Alright, They're 249 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 1: gonna flash the headlights so many times about you know, 250 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 1: get lost, I'm here first, and uh some of the 251 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 1: other words that we can't really say on radio we 252 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:47,719 Speaker 1: shouldn't say in public. So it'll be a good time. 253 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 1: You'll see a bunch of cars driving around New York 254 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:52,080 Speaker 1: with nobody in them, flashing headlights all day long. It'll 255 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 1: be interesting. Morse code is only an autonomous car and 256 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:57,200 Speaker 1: read it. Let's get over to Ed in Queens, New York. 257 00:12:57,240 --> 00:12:59,319 Speaker 1: Some comments about oil drain vels before you do that. 258 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:01,959 Speaker 1: Very is these cars driving around New York and nobody 259 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 1: in it, No one's gonna notice, Sue Watt. You know 260 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 1: there is that argument too, because how can you tell 261 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 1: the cars in New York they drive like there's nobody 262 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 1: in them? Now, So what difference is it gonna make? 263 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 1: Um Ed Queens, New York. How canna help you, sir? Sorry, 264 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 1: we're insulting your home state at yes, exactly. And there's 265 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 1: no way these autonomous car is going to be able 266 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:23,959 Speaker 1: to avoid the potholes of New York City. Well, yeah, 267 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 1: and you know what, and that's the thought because you 268 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 1: look at you know, these autonomous cars are, for lack 269 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:33,320 Speaker 1: of a better term, I don't want to say they're 270 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:37,439 Speaker 1: but they're kind of, you know, small looking and fragile looking, 271 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 1: and they're not exactly what I would call robust. And 272 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 1: you need something, you need something made of steel and 273 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 1: solid mass to deal with the potholes and streets of 274 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 1: New York City. It just, uh, it just doesn't make 275 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 1: any sense to me. So but we'll say, we'll say, hey, listen, 276 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:54,719 Speaker 1: progress time marches on, right, and the technology changes things. 277 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:58,080 Speaker 1: How can I help you today? Sir? What's your professional 278 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 1: opinion about replacing the simple oil engine oil drain plug 279 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 1: with a oil drain valve. Um From everything online, it 280 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:13,679 Speaker 1: appears to make the oil change process cleaner, but you're 281 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 1: obviously introducing a part that has a title switch and 282 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 1: a moving part. Do you think it's a smart idea 283 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 1: or a stick to the simple and reliable oil drain plug. 284 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 1: I'm still a drain plug fan, all right, And and 285 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 1: the reason is that some of the drain valves that 286 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 1: I've seen, they always extend a little bit further into 287 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 1: the pin than the depth of the whole, So there's 288 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 1: always a there's like a there's a lip for the 289 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 1: oil to come over the top of, so you're always 290 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 1: leaving a little bit of a residue. New few if 291 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 1: you have a drain that actually meets the max diameter 292 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 1: of the oil pan, you know, maybe I'd consider it. 293 00:14:57,240 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 1: The question I've got is, you know, how picky are 294 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 1: we gonna get? Is it? Are we gonna start to 295 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 1: think about? Um? Uh, you know, speed of oil coming 296 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 1: out of the engine, and are we leaving any residue 297 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 1: in the engine? I you know, Eddie, I just think 298 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 1: it it works, Leave it alone, use a drain plug. 299 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 1: Um I don't, I don't. I don't know that we 300 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 1: need to, you know, induce anything else in there to break. 301 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 1: I've also seen, depending upon where the vehicle is being used, 302 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 1: if it's an off road vehicle, or if it's a 303 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 1: pickup truck being used off road, or you know, something 304 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 1: along those lines. You get out on a rough country, 305 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 1: road rocks fly up, the brief flies up. I've seen 306 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 1: those drain valves get hit by road debris, get damaged, 307 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 1: and the engine starts leaking oil. And an engine drain, 308 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 1: an engine drain plug it's got to fall out for 309 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 1: the engine, the leak oil, and as long as you 310 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 1: tighten it, you're okay. So I'd probably leave it alone, 311 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 1: all right, sir, You're very welcome. You take good care. Um. Yeah, 312 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 1: you know, more technology? Um, I just well, whatever, enough 313 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 1: with technology. Let's go and talk to Sarah. Sarah in Pennsylvania. Sarah, 314 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 1: welcome to the car doctor. How can I help hi? Um? 315 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 1: I have a two thousand twelve Dodge a vendor. I 316 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 1: purchased it brand new and it had a recall on 317 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 1: it for the active head restraint And basically the recall 318 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 1: it says electrical overstress of a resistor in the occupant 319 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 1: restraint control module. They lead to the non deployment of 320 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 1: the active head restraints during the rear impact collision. So 321 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 1: I took it to the dealer and they did the recall, 322 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 1: and afterwards the airbag light was still on. So was 323 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 1: it on? Was it on prior to you going in? 324 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 1: I'm sorry? Was it on prior to you going in? Yes? Okay, yep. 325 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 1: So um, he was kind of looking around and took 326 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 1: the head rest off, and when he was looking at it, 327 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 1: he saw that the pins on the inside are broken. Um, 328 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 1: like I said, I artist at brand new, and I 329 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 1: know I've never taken off and I've never had a 330 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:08,160 Speaker 1: reason for it to be off. So my question is, 331 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:11,680 Speaker 1: is they quoted me four fifty dollars for the new headrest. 332 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:15,920 Speaker 1: Is it absolutely necessary to replace it? Or can I 333 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:18,399 Speaker 1: leave it at it? The airbag won't work without it, 334 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 1: none of thee the air bag system in the vehicle 335 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 1: won't work without a period. But but my question is 336 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 1: the recall that they did, was it related to the 337 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:32,719 Speaker 1: headrest or the recall they did was a software update. 338 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 1: Um there were two recalls done on it that day. UM. 339 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:44,160 Speaker 1: One was active head restraints and then the second one 340 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:48,879 Speaker 1: was the occupant restraint controller. And it says updated the 341 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:53,679 Speaker 1: totally integrated power module. So they did software updates. So 342 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:56,679 Speaker 1: so these were these were software updates from the sound 343 00:17:56,760 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 1: of it. But you know, the argument becomes, what Sarah, 344 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 1: I don't want to rush this. Stand the line, let me, 345 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 1: let me pull over and take the pause and when 346 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:05,959 Speaker 1: I come back, we'll fin the shop and give it 347 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 1: to do. I'm running eating the car doctor. We'll be 348 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 1: back right after this. Don't go with go back. Finally 349 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 1: of the car doctor banging away today. Let's get over 350 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:32,440 Speaker 1: and get back to Sarah in Pennsylvania. Sarah, you and 351 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 1: your twelve Dodge Avenge. We were talking about the airbag recall. 352 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:40,480 Speaker 1: It had just gone through. You're still there, So it 353 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 1: sounds to me like they did a software update. But 354 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 1: the question I've got is, and I guess, Okay, the headrest, 355 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 1: that's what that's what they said was broken right the 356 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 1: head west the headrest connector okay, the head the headrest 357 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 1: was probably broken prior to the recall. And you know, 358 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:02,160 Speaker 1: they did the recall and then they found this additional 359 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:07,120 Speaker 1: part or this additional damage. Um, I've got to tell 360 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 1: you what I'm kind of confused about is prior to 361 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 1: doing any recall, I'll say it like this, I've never 362 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:18,359 Speaker 1: done a recall because I'm not a dealership. I've done 363 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 1: more than a fair share of computer reflashing or software 364 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 1: add ons. And part of the standard rule of software 365 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 1: flashing is before you flash the vehicle, before you update 366 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 1: the software, especially if the check engine or airbag or 367 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:35,440 Speaker 1: suspension light or some other lights on, what's the first 368 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 1: thing you're gonna do. You're gonna scan the vehicle, right, 369 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:39,879 Speaker 1: You're gonna You're gonna plug it. You're gonna plug in 370 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:43,200 Speaker 1: a scan tool and you know, read the systems and say, okay, 371 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 1: who's got a fault in it? And for what reason? Now, 372 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:47,879 Speaker 1: part of the logic of why you would do that 373 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 1: is if the lights on, I kind of want to 374 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:52,880 Speaker 1: know why the lights on because when I put when 375 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 1: you know, when I put the software in it, I'm 376 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 1: going to erase that fault. And if it's an intermittent fault, 377 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:01,400 Speaker 1: kind to want to know when the light pops back 378 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:03,439 Speaker 1: on in two weeks, it wasn't something as a result 379 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 1: of what I did, or you know, it's always gives 380 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 1: the customer would give Sarah a warm fuzzy to sit 381 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 1: there and say, hey, Sarah, the lights on because of this, 382 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 1: not because of the software update that we did. It 383 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:16,360 Speaker 1: would make Sarah feel better and should have more confident 384 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 1: in me as a mechanic. Correct. So I think that 385 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 1: was their first mistake. What I would tell you to 386 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 1: do is they're saying that this is a connector at 387 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 1: the air bag at the headrest itself. Rather I'm sorry, 388 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:31,880 Speaker 1: the head rest restraint itself for the air bag. They're 389 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:35,959 Speaker 1: saying the connector broke. So you know, four and fifty dollars. Yes, 390 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:37,959 Speaker 1: it's got to be fixed. Otherwise the air bag system, 391 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:40,119 Speaker 1: to my knowledge, won't work at all. It's going to 392 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:43,879 Speaker 1: disable the entire system. Uh. You know, when an airbag 393 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:46,200 Speaker 1: lights on, the air bag system doesn't deploy because it 394 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 1: can operate properly. And part of the rationale with that 395 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:52,360 Speaker 1: is you've got to realize basically, an air bag system 396 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 1: is a controlled explosion in the car. And I hate 397 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:56,359 Speaker 1: to say it like that, but that's that's really what 398 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 1: it is. It's it's gott it's got to come out 399 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:02,200 Speaker 1: in that nanosecond to impact and cushion you and catch 400 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 1: your body as it's flying in the wrong direction to 401 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:06,719 Speaker 1: keep you safe. It's it's sort of like when your 402 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 1: mom stuffed you with pillows to keep you from falling 403 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:12,120 Speaker 1: out of the bed. Same thing, all right. So that 404 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:14,440 Speaker 1: being said, my question would be I'd go to the 405 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 1: parts department and say, hey, I need this part number 406 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 1: air bag? How many is Chrysler selling a week? And 407 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:22,919 Speaker 1: you know they can tell you that. And if they 408 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:24,919 Speaker 1: won't tell you that, you you send me the vent 409 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:27,639 Speaker 1: of your vehicle with an estimate for repair, and that 410 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 1: estimate will have the part number for the part that 411 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:32,159 Speaker 1: that's needed on it. You email that to me and 412 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:34,159 Speaker 1: I'll be glad to talk to Chrysler and get you 413 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 1: a history of that part failure because they can tell 414 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:41,719 Speaker 1: me just what's going bad and how often. Uh. This 415 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 1: past week, I had a Chrysler that needed let me 416 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:46,439 Speaker 1: think for a second, which car was it, But there 417 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 1: were three forty seven of them getting replaced. And boy, 418 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 1: you know what it escapes? Oh, it was a window regulator, 419 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 1: window regulator in a Dodge caravan, the driver's window. Chrysler 420 00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 1: is selling three forty something of them a week, all right, 421 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 1: and it's this it's this overpriced, hundred dollar pile of 422 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 1: plastic that is just falling apart, left, right and sideways. 423 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:11,959 Speaker 1: And you know, it gave me. It made my customer 424 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 1: feel better to know that she wasn't alone. She's driving 425 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 1: a caravan. And I said, you know, they're losing three 426 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 1: d and fifty of these a week. You know it's 427 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,879 Speaker 1: not an uncommon thing. Yeah, you're right through it. I'll 428 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:24,159 Speaker 1: you know, I'll just bite the bullet. But I can 429 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:25,679 Speaker 1: do the same thing with your air bag. It's just 430 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:27,479 Speaker 1: a matter of talking to the right people at Chrysler 431 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 1: and saying Hey, how many of these are you selling? 432 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 1: And here's my point. If Chrysler says they're selling three 433 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 1: hundred a week or two hundred a week, that's not 434 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 1: Sarah's fault. That's bad engineering. Now what are you guys 435 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 1: gonna do about it? And they may do nothing, but 436 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:44,920 Speaker 1: at least you at least you know, and you feel better, 437 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:50,160 Speaker 1: all right? My father? All right? And I cite my father, 438 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 1: and my father has been gone a long time. He 439 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 1: passed when I was eleven, but I cite, I cite 440 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:57,959 Speaker 1: some of his words a lot, especially up here on 441 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:02,199 Speaker 1: national stage. My they're sold carpeting for a living. And 442 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:04,200 Speaker 1: I remember as a little kid coming home and him 443 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 1: coming home, and I'd sit at the dinner table late 444 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 1: at night in my pj's, I had sleepers, and um 445 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 1: he'd sit there and he tell my mom about the day, 446 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:13,880 Speaker 1: and you know, you talked about how he had a 447 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:16,200 Speaker 1: relay carpeting in this house or that house that he'd 448 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 1: put in five years prior. My mom would say why, 449 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 1: and she my dad would say, you only get one 450 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:23,880 Speaker 1: chance to annoy a customer. And you know, you've always 451 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 1: got to put that confidence in their mind that what 452 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:28,440 Speaker 1: you're doing was the right thing, and if it's your problem, 453 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:30,159 Speaker 1: deal with it and take it back to your vendor. 454 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 1: If if Christler's selling three hundred of these a week, 455 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 1: and I don't know that they are, but if they are, 456 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,640 Speaker 1: if they're selling three hundred of these a week, then 457 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 1: you know what, that's a vendor issue. That's not your fault. 458 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 1: That you bought a car that you had faith in, 459 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:46,719 Speaker 1: and at least you'll feel better explaining that the Chrysler um. 460 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:49,199 Speaker 1: You may not get anywhere, but you'll feel better inside 461 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 1: and that's how you'll live with it. So um, like 462 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 1: my dad said, you only get one chance to really 463 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:56,479 Speaker 1: um tick off a customer. There's no such thing as 464 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:58,439 Speaker 1: a new customer. There's just somebody that came from somewhere 465 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:00,440 Speaker 1: else that didn't get the service and attention they needed. 466 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,120 Speaker 1: And that's that's part of life today. That's the way 467 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:06,200 Speaker 1: we all are. We're all built that way, I think. Um. 468 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:08,200 Speaker 1: So I would talk to Chrysler, I would say, listen, 469 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 1: I had enough faith in your product to buy it. 470 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 1: How many miles around this car? Sarah? Yeah, sixty tho miles. 471 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 1: You're telling me it's sixty tholes. Something as critical as 472 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:22,440 Speaker 1: an air bag component failed, leaving the system disabled and 473 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:27,440 Speaker 1: me at risk for five See what they'll do. Maybe 474 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:30,360 Speaker 1: they'll meet you halfway, and they should at the very least, 475 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:33,399 Speaker 1: they should meet you halfway because for them, it doesn't 476 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 1: cost them anything. And I would, I would fight for this. 477 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:39,119 Speaker 1: I would, you know, I would make the point that 478 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 1: in the in this day and age of air bag problems, 479 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 1: I don't understand why here's an additional problem. When is 480 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:46,400 Speaker 1: this going to become a recall? And why you guys 481 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:48,399 Speaker 1: can't do something to keep me happy. Where do you 482 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:50,159 Speaker 1: get the car service? Do you get it serviced by 483 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:55,880 Speaker 1: the dealer? You do so? So since two thousand twelve 484 00:24:56,320 --> 00:25:02,160 Speaker 1: you've been their customer, taking the car and for service. 485 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:07,439 Speaker 1: And yeah, they owe you. They gotta do something for you, 486 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 1: all right, just my two cents? All right? Like I said, 487 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 1: if you want to, if you want to email me 488 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 1: the VN and the part number, um, you can and 489 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:17,680 Speaker 1: I'll be glad to find out how many of these 490 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 1: are sold in the course of a year, how many 491 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 1: christ are selling a week? You can just use ron 492 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:26,639 Speaker 1: at car Doctor show dot com. But that'll that'll that'll 493 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 1: be the definitive answer. But you know they owe you something. 494 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:32,880 Speaker 1: They owe you a reason to keep coming back, all right. 495 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 1: They can't be that popular. No repair shop is so 496 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:39,920 Speaker 1: popular that they can afford to ignore their customers. They've 497 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,439 Speaker 1: got to do what they can to keep me happy. UM. 498 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:45,199 Speaker 1: I'm not telling you and suggesting to anybody that you know, 499 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 1: customers have the upper hand, or you know there's times 500 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 1: you're gonna have to pay for something. But sixty tho miles, 501 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 1: you know if this was eighty thousand miles, that this 502 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 1: was a hundred thousand miles. Um, this is poor workmanship, 503 00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:59,959 Speaker 1: and it's probably because somebody didn't plug something in right, 504 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 1: or clipping a safety restraint or or a stress relief 505 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 1: on the wiring harness keeping the connector in place. From 506 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 1: the sounds of it, it sounds like the safety catch 507 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 1: on the connector held and it just wiggled and jiggled 508 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 1: the the plug itself until it finally just broke off. 509 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:17,400 Speaker 1: Because you know, you're getting in and out of the car, 510 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:21,679 Speaker 1: and you're moving the seat and so on and so forth. Um. 511 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:24,159 Speaker 1: Sure makes the argument for electric cars look bad, doesn't it. 512 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 1: Can you imagine all the connectors right, how many connectors 513 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 1: and plugs are we gonna have an electric cars that 514 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 1: they think these things are gonna hold up. Uh, you know, 515 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 1: I think I think the value of sixty three Dodge 516 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 1: Darts with six cylinders and points in them. We're gonna 517 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 1: come back and go skyrocketing. So give it a shot, Sarah, 518 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 1: let me know what happens. I'm here if you need me. 519 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 1: All right, Thank you, You're very welcome. You take good care. 520 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 1: Zero nine zero zero. I'm running anading the car doctor, 521 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:52,640 Speaker 1: calling him like I see them, and I'll be back 522 00:26:52,720 --> 00:27:03,880 Speaker 1: right after this. Welcome back, I meaning the card doctor. 523 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 1: E five five zero car doctor phone number. Let's go 524 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:10,200 Speaker 1: and talk to Sammy in Central p A. You know 525 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,480 Speaker 1: we're coming in lout and clear in Central Pennsylvania today 526 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 1: and let's see what's going on here. Sam. Welcome to 527 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 1: the car Doctor. How can I help? Oh yeah, listen, 528 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:22,480 Speaker 1: car doctor. I have a two thousand three Taurus station Wagon. 529 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:28,359 Speaker 1: In the past, I noticed that when they sator I 530 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:32,439 Speaker 1: was going mad. I would start checking the brushes and 531 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:34,919 Speaker 1: change the brushes, especially while I was going on a 532 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 1: road trip. Uh. But now with this two thousand free 533 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 1: to change the system so they don't have brushes. Now, 534 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,120 Speaker 1: I'm just wandering, is there's some way I can check 535 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:49,159 Speaker 1: the alternator of ahead of time. Well, you can go 536 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:51,639 Speaker 1: through and do you know what we call a load test, 537 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,720 Speaker 1: which will check you know, voltage output. It will check 538 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,680 Speaker 1: the diodes, it will check the regulator and current output 539 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 1: and see if it meets back. It doesn't guarantee what's 540 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 1: gonna happen tomorrow, because you know what, what work today 541 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,439 Speaker 1: may fail tomorrow. You just don't know. So it becomes 542 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 1: a game of mileage and age. You've got a two 543 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:14,440 Speaker 1: thousand three, it's you know, thirteen going on fourteen years old, 544 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,359 Speaker 1: depending upon which engine that is. If it's a three 545 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:20,840 Speaker 1: oh duel overhead cam, do you know which engine that is? Sam? 546 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 1: Is it? Yeah? Well everybody says they have a good engine, 547 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:30,159 Speaker 1: Like every pilot says he's the best. Um uh, is 548 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 1: it is? It? Got? Is it got the big wide 549 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 1: valve covers up top? I don't remember, I think it? Yeah, 550 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:40,479 Speaker 1: overhead cam? Okay, so if this is the overhead cam, 551 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 1: this is a duel overhead cam motor the alternator for 552 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 1: that is in a real bad spot. It's down behind 553 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 1: the engine, just the top of the drive axle on 554 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 1: the passenger side, which is the other problem. Alright, if 555 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:55,960 Speaker 1: it does fail on the road, it's not something you're 556 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 1: gonna change on the side of the road. Most mechanics 557 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,360 Speaker 1: would have a hard time replacing that in a shop. Uh, 558 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's a it's a bit of work 559 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 1: to get to so and I'm not trying to scare you. 560 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 1: I'm just trying to explain. You know, here's what can 561 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 1: go wrong. So you know, doing a doing a full 562 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 1: system test and keeping an eye on things would be 563 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 1: a great thing to do beforehand. Uh, you know how 564 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 1: many miles on the car? Is that the original alternator? 565 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:29,440 Speaker 1: Are you the original owner? Oh? I how how long ago? 566 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 1: How many miles ago? Oh? I know that right, it's 567 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 1: probably had the alternator replaced. And now the question is 568 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 1: what quality isn't what brand is it? So you may 569 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 1: want to take a try and take a peek at it. 570 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 1: Get your mechanic to take a look at it. You know, 571 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 1: the typical aftermarket reman rebuilt alternator, they'll go I don't know, 572 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 1: two and a half three years, and I just generally 573 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:56,120 Speaker 1: don't see them go longer than that, And also obviously 574 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 1: depends on how many miles you're going. But you know, yes, 575 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 1: alternators can fail they do go bed on modern cars. 576 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 1: They can also cause problems. Bad dios can cause vehicles 577 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,240 Speaker 1: to shut off as they can't control the A C 578 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:12,160 Speaker 1: signal and h interrupt the d C and cause computers 579 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 1: to lose their mind and like go ahead way you 580 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 1: can maybe have a dial on a dashboard there and 581 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 1: you could check and see sure at a vaultmeter would work. 582 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 1: Wonders in a case like this years ago. I forget 583 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:33,480 Speaker 1: where I saw it, but I bet if you went 584 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 1: out on Amazon or the Internet, you'd find it. Somebody 585 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:40,280 Speaker 1: made a vault meter that plugged into your cigarette lighter, 586 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 1: so it was you know, it was just it had 587 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 1: it had the back of it had a vault meter 588 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 1: on it. I'm sorry, I had a cigarette lighter attachment 589 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 1: on it plugged into your cigarette lighter and it read 590 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 1: charging system voltage. It sort of gave you a voltmeter 591 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:57,720 Speaker 1: in the ash trad I remember where I saw it, 592 00:30:57,960 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 1: but I thought it was a neat idea for a car. 593 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:01,959 Speaker 1: If you wanted to watch, you know, charging system vault did. 594 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 1: You can keep an eye on things and if you 595 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 1: see it changing, you know what you got. Now, that 596 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 1: doesn't tell you if you've got a current issue that 597 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,840 Speaker 1: doesn't tell you if you've got a diode problem, but 598 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 1: at least it shows you the beginning of what could 599 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:17,200 Speaker 1: be bad, all right, So but yeah, you know, it 600 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:21,040 Speaker 1: definitely makes a case on older vehicles, even newer vehicles. 601 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 1: I prefer gauges so that I can watch and see 602 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 1: what's going on, because by the time the light comes on, 603 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:31,960 Speaker 1: my problem is already there, and I've got I've got, 604 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 1: there's nothing more I can do. I'm sort of stuck 605 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:36,160 Speaker 1: by the side of the road. So take a look. 606 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 1: I bet you those gauges are still out there. If 607 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:41,040 Speaker 1: they if they exist, Amazon or the Internet will have it. 608 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 1: Thank God for them. And um, you can do that 609 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 1: before you go on the road trip and maybe give 610 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:46,960 Speaker 1: you some peace of mind. Sam, I appreciate the call. 611 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 1: Eight zero. We're on naming the Car Doctor coming back 612 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 1: right after this, Welcome back car Doctor, rolling along and 613 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:03,440 Speaker 1: trying to finish things up this hour. Next week on 614 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:05,240 Speaker 1: the Car Doctor, we're gonna give away a scan tool. 615 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:06,760 Speaker 1: Don't tell Tom and Tony. I have to keep it 616 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,480 Speaker 1: hitting from here in the studio otherwise they're gonna, you know, 617 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:11,520 Speaker 1: take it out and start playing with it like everything else. 618 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:15,960 Speaker 1: And um, they just liked and they'll probably take it. 619 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 1: And like when we give away the Wicks car, they're 620 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 1: gonna make it on the ground, go room room. They 621 00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:21,080 Speaker 1: don't understand what the scan tool is. They're not the 622 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,520 Speaker 1: very brightest guys in the shed. So we're gonna get 623 00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:26,040 Speaker 1: away a Launch scan tool courtesy the folks at Launched 624 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:28,920 Speaker 1: Scan Tools. Um, I don't know. I think it's Launch 625 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:31,440 Speaker 1: launch tech USA dot com. I think is the website. 626 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 1: I should probably know that, and uh, um, well, don't 627 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 1: tell Launch. They don't really know what we're doing either, 628 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:39,080 Speaker 1: so we're just keeping it a secret. We're just kind 629 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 1: of going into the surprise closet and uh, I gotta 630 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 1: clean out the closet. I got too much stuff in 631 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 1: there from things this year that people have sent us 632 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:47,640 Speaker 1: to try and use. So we're going to our own 633 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:49,400 Speaker 1: stash to do that. But next week here on the 634 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 1: Car Doctor, we're gonna give away scan tool. It's time 635 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,400 Speaker 1: and um do that. Let's get that going. And I 636 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:56,640 Speaker 1: would like to know when you clean out the closet, 637 00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:58,560 Speaker 1: why you give the good stuff away and give us 638 00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:01,680 Speaker 1: the junk. Yeah, well, because you two aren't very bright 639 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 1: and this way you don't really know what's good or bad. 640 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 1: You just think it's but we do have the on 641 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,880 Speaker 1: off button on your mic. Yeah, that's true, and sometimes 642 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 1: you can make it sound like But anyway, let's uh, 643 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:14,959 Speaker 1: let's do a quick piece of email. Hey, Ron, I've 644 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 1: got a two thousand and eight Toyota Highlander. This comes 645 00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:21,080 Speaker 1: to us from Jacqueline and Missouri. Ron. I've got a 646 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,760 Speaker 1: two thousand and eight Toyota Highlander and it seems to 647 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:26,400 Speaker 1: be going through coolant. I've been told that I might 648 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:28,800 Speaker 1: need a head gasket because it's an older vehicle with 649 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:30,520 Speaker 1: a hundred and twelve thousand miles on it. I'm not 650 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:32,440 Speaker 1: ready to spend that kind of money. Do you have 651 00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:34,920 Speaker 1: any sort of alternatives for me so that I can 652 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:38,240 Speaker 1: keep on the road. I am a preschool kindergarten teacher 653 00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 1: traveling from house to house here in rural Missouri, and 654 00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:43,960 Speaker 1: I need my vehicle and all kinds of weather. Jacqueline, UM, 655 00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 1: that's nice, you know, look at that trying to shape 656 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:49,360 Speaker 1: America's minds, and Um, we need people like this. We 657 00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:51,000 Speaker 1: gotta keep her on the road. So to do that, 658 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 1: you know, Jacqueline, there there are other ways to do 659 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:57,080 Speaker 1: this instead of doing a head guest on an older vehicle. 660 00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:00,360 Speaker 1: What you can try, all right, and what we've had 661 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:03,120 Speaker 1: some very good success within the shop is a product 662 00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:06,240 Speaker 1: from a company called k Seal. It was developed and 663 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:08,480 Speaker 1: it's made right here in the USA. That seems appropriate. 664 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:10,759 Speaker 1: You're trying to help the country, and so were they. Um. 665 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,160 Speaker 1: It's developed and made right here in the USA. K 666 00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:16,000 Speaker 1: Seal cooling system repair and they also have k Seal 667 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,839 Speaker 1: head gasket repair. And it's real simple to do. It's 668 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:20,800 Speaker 1: it's it's drained a little out of the cooling system, 669 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:22,920 Speaker 1: makes some room for it, shake it up, follow the 670 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,560 Speaker 1: directions on the bottle, pour it in a way you go. Um. 671 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:28,839 Speaker 1: We've used it twice now on two different vehicles and 672 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:31,320 Speaker 1: we haven't had any problems with it. It's no comebacks. 673 00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:34,120 Speaker 1: It works, it does what it's supposed to do. Um. 674 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 1: You know, there were years ago we would always be 675 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:38,360 Speaker 1: leary of you know, the fix in the can, the 676 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:40,880 Speaker 1: mechanic and the can kind of a thing. But the 677 00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,279 Speaker 1: folks at K Seals seem to have and I must 678 00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:46,480 Speaker 1: say more than it seemed to but they have circumvented 679 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 1: the problem and they're making a product that works, and 680 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:50,879 Speaker 1: we've seen some good results with it. I've heard others 681 00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:53,160 Speaker 1: seeing good results with it k seal. You can get 682 00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:56,680 Speaker 1: more information from them k seal dot com and I'm 683 00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:59,480 Speaker 1: sure it's available most major dport stores across the country. 684 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:01,359 Speaker 1: I'm a nating of the car. Doc are looking up 685 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:03,360 Speaker 1: saying it's time to go until the next time. The 686 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:06,319 Speaker 1: mechanics aren't expensive, they're placeless. See you