Speaker 1: Welcome. It is Verdic with Center, Ted Kruz, Ben Ferguson
Speaker 1: with you. It's nice to have you with us on
Speaker 1: this Memorial Day. And Senator, we're going to do a
Speaker 1: special show today. We are going to play an interview
Speaker 1: that we did recently with Tom Homan which really went
Speaker 1: viral and if you missed it, it was an important
Speaker 1: one about border security. But before we get to that,
Speaker 1: I do want to take a moment and for us
Speaker 1: to just say thank you to everyone that's ever served
Speaker 1: this country and to those who have given the ultimate sacrifice,
Speaker 1: and families that are listening right now, Memorial Day for
Speaker 1: them is a very somber day.
Speaker 2: Well it is in a Memorial Day.
Speaker 3: We want to take a moment to reflect and think
Speaker 3: back and say thank you to every soldier, every sailor,
Speaker 3: every airman, em or marine, every coastguardsman, every guardian who
Speaker 3: gave their lives for our nation. You know, Memorial Day
Speaker 3: is a very different holiday from Veterans Day. Veterans Day
Speaker 3: we say thank you to our active duty military. We
Speaker 3: say thank you to those who have served, and we
Speaker 3: should do that today and every other day, but Memorial
Speaker 3: Days set aside for those who gave the last full
Speaker 3: measure of demotion, the the ultimate sacrifice, those who stepped
Speaker 3: forward and gave their lives. And every liberty we have,
Speaker 3: every breath we breathe as free Americans is because men
Speaker 3: and women have answered the call. They've answered the call.
Speaker 3: Going back to the Revolutionary War, to the War of
Speaker 3: eighteen twelve, going to the Civil War, World War One,
Speaker 3: World War II, going forward to Korea, to Vietnam, to
Speaker 3: the War on Terror. We have had service men and
Speaker 3: women for two hundred and fifty years stepping forward and
Speaker 3: saying America is worth fighting for, and I'm willing to
Speaker 3: die for America. And far too many of them have
Speaker 3: had to give that final sacrifice. And so I want
Speaker 3: to say I want to give a special shout out
Speaker 3: to gold Star families. If you're a mom or dad,
Speaker 3: if you are a wife or husband, if you are
Speaker 3: a son or daughter of a service man or woman
Speaker 3: who gave their lives, let me just say thank you,
Speaker 3: We appreciate you, and let me tell you your loved
Speaker 3: one is not forgotten. The sacrifice that your loved one
Speaker 3: is given. We are grateful and we know our freedom
Speaker 3: is because of that sacrifice. Look Memorial Day is a
Speaker 3: great time. I hope you spend time with your kids,
Speaker 3: with your spouse. I hope you play in the backyard.
Speaker 3: I hope you grill, although I do hope when you grill,
Speaker 3: you do a better job of grilling burgers than Chuck
Speaker 3: Schumer does. So do not put the cheese on raw burgers.
Speaker 3: That that is a sign been to that a messed
Speaker 3: up New Yorker who's never actually had a barbecue in
Speaker 3: his life. But for anyone that actually lives on planet Earth,
Speaker 3: have a great backyard barbecue, play with your kids, swim
Speaker 3: in the pool.
Speaker 4: Laugh.
Speaker 3: But take a moment and let me encourage you. For
Speaker 3: all the parents out there, take a moment to talk
Speaker 3: to your kids and tell them, hey, you may think
Speaker 3: Memorial Day is the beginning of summer. Maybe school is over,
Speaker 3: finals are over, now you just get to play, But
Speaker 3: this is a day.
Speaker 2: There are kids your age.
Speaker 3: Today who are not playing with their dad, who are
Speaker 3: not hugging their mom because they gave everything for this
Speaker 3: country and we need to pause and give thanks and
Speaker 3: just say we love you and we are grateful.
Speaker 1: Aim into that. And I couldn't agree with you more.
Speaker 1: There's so many people today that it is a tough day.
Speaker 1: It's a day that they're going to have to they
Speaker 1: sit and they talk and they remember their family members
Speaker 1: to get the ultimate sacrifice this country. And the way
Speaker 1: you said, explain it to your kids and your grandkids,
Speaker 1: say you know it truly what this day is about.
Speaker 1: And also enjoy your family. There's no doubt about that, Senator.
Speaker 1: We also decided on this holiday that there was a
Speaker 1: really important interview that we had just done recently with
Speaker 1: Borders Are Tom Homan, and it was one that went viral,
Speaker 1: and if you missed it, we're going to play that
Speaker 1: for you today because it was such a important reminder
Speaker 1: of what is happening right now with our border and
Speaker 1: security and fighting to protect our kids from fetnyl and
Speaker 1: the drug trafficking and the human trafficking that's coming into
Speaker 1: this country. And it was a really it was a
Speaker 1: really exciting interview that we just did.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, Tom Homan is doing a great job and President
Speaker 3: Trump is doing a great job securing the border, and
Speaker 3: our families are safer because of it. It was a
Speaker 3: mandate from this last election. The chaos, the open borders
Speaker 3: we saw for four years were it was a deliberate
Speaker 3: political decision by the Democrats and the successes. Look, look
Speaker 3: I believed, and we talked in this podcast about the
Speaker 3: successes we were going to have if if we wanted
Speaker 3: November secure in the border. But I have to say,
Speaker 3: the magnitude, the speed, the scope of it defies any
Speaker 3: reasonable expectation. And so this discussion with Tom Homan, many
Speaker 3: of you listened to it, and yet yet a whole
Speaker 3: lot of people didn't, And so we thought it was
Speaker 3: worth putting out a second time because because it's really
Speaker 3: powerful what's happening at the border, and it's something that
Speaker 3: the corporate media does not want to report, which is
Speaker 3: why this podcast is important, because we can get information
Speaker 3: out that ABC, CBS, NBC, C and NMSNBC will never
Speaker 3: acknowledge exists. And that's the value of every one of
Speaker 3: our listeners. So let me say, listen to it, but
Speaker 3: also share it with your friends, your family, make sure
Speaker 3: they listen to it as well.
Speaker 1: Absolutely so, without further ado, here is that conversation we
Speaker 1: have with the borders. Are Tom Homan, and Happy Memorial
Speaker 1: Day to everyone. God bless all you that serve this
Speaker 1: country and those that gave the ultimate sacrifice, will remember
Speaker 1: you today.
Speaker 5: As well.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 3: Tom Homan is serving as President Trump's Borders are. He
Speaker 3: is the former acting director of the US Immigration and
Speaker 3: Customs Enforcement and he has been Borders are since since
Speaker 3: Trump resumed office as president. His formal title, which I like,
Speaker 3: is what White House Executive Associate Director of Enforcement and
Speaker 3: Removal Operations. And to be clear, his job is to
Speaker 3: secure the border, keep US safe, and remove dangerous illegal aliens.
Speaker 2: He's doing a hell of a job. Tom, Welcome to Verdict.
Speaker 4: Thanks for having me.
Speaker 3: So let's start with just how are we doing. We're
Speaker 3: four months in, almost five months into the Trump presidency.
Speaker 3: How are we doing? Tell us what has happened since
Speaker 3: President Trump became president again?
Speaker 2: On the border?
Speaker 4: Well, President Trump today, I'm talking to today Santa Cruz.
Speaker 4: We have the most secure border in the history of
Speaker 4: this nation today and most secure board ever. I mean
Speaker 4: we even beat Trump forty five. Well, we hand the
Speaker 4: Biden administration most secure boarder ever ahead of that time. Well,
Speaker 4: the data is even better now. And let me give
Speaker 4: you a few numbers, just a few numbers. Under Biden administration,
Speaker 4: we were dealing with ten eleven thousand, even a few times,
Speaker 4: fifteen thousand aliens Today yesterday it was two hundred and eleven.
Speaker 4: We went from thirteen fourteen thousand to two hundred and eleven.
Speaker 2: And that's across the entire southwest border.
Speaker 4: Yes, gotaways under Biden an average gtaway day and under
Speaker 4: Biden was eighteen hundred plus eighteen hundred plus. What was
Speaker 4: the gataways yesterday? Thirty nine Wow. And then the most
Speaker 4: impressive number the first one hundred days on President Trump
Speaker 4: compared to the first at the same time period last
Speaker 4: year under Biden. Biden released over one hundred and eighty
Speaker 4: four thousand illegal animates in this country. The Trump administration
Speaker 4: one there was nine releases, but for more material witnesses.
Speaker 4: As you know, we want them to come here to
Speaker 4: testify in the Cargol trial. So form we want to command.
Speaker 4: Four came across the border in such bad shape that
Speaker 4: we had to call an ambulance and take care of
Speaker 4: the medical and each we had an allowment in decided
Speaker 4: to do medical treatment. But we had one one discretionary
Speaker 4: release compared to one hundred and eighty four or a
Speaker 4: thousand released under the same time period or in Biden.
Speaker 4: Most Secure Border Historistination INTERI Enforcement Offerings ICE's arrested three
Speaker 4: times more criminals than Biden did during the same time period.
Speaker 4: We got more to rest, we got many more to rest.
Speaker 4: But they're already hitting the ball out of park and
Speaker 4: we're gonna keep doing it. We need to do more
Speaker 4: of it. And we're hoping for a budget real soon
Speaker 4: here so we can step up efforts there. But it's
Speaker 4: it's game changing. President Trump's been a game changer, and
Speaker 4: men and women, vice and men women border stood up,
Speaker 4: tooking on the task and cousinent Trump did in seven weeks,
Speaker 4: but Joe Biden couldn't or wouldn't do in four years.
Speaker 3: My favorite line from from President Trump's most recent State
Speaker 3: of the Union address it is when he said, you know,
Speaker 3: Joe Biden stood here a year ago and said that
Speaker 3: he couldn't secure the border without new legislation passing Congress.
Speaker 3: And then Trump said, it turns out we didn't need
Speaker 3: new legislation, We just needed a new president. And and
Speaker 3: that's powerfully true. So let me ask just just a
Speaker 3: simple question for those Look, you're you're an immigr expert,
Speaker 3: but for someone at home, how did the numbers drop
Speaker 3: so precipitously, What specifically are y'all doing differently than what
Speaker 3: Joe Biden Kamala Harris did.
Speaker 4: The biggest thing we've done is a president's executive orders
Speaker 4: that were a game changer, remain in Mexico a game changer.
Speaker 4: I have the third sid Country Agreement a game changer,
Speaker 4: and finally ending catcher release. People know you come to
Speaker 4: a border, Now you're not being released, and we're just
Speaker 4: followed the law because, as you know, under federal statue,
Speaker 4: nailing arrives at our border without proper documentation to enter
Speaker 4: the languages, you shall be detained. Now maybe not thinking
Speaker 4: about it, not problem shall And that's exactly why we're doing.
Speaker 4: Those three things by themselves have been a major game changer,
Speaker 4: and all three of them were executive orders by President Trump's.
Speaker 1: You mentioned budget a moment ago and how important it
Speaker 1: is to have the budget for you guys to continue
Speaker 1: your job.
Speaker 5: Explain for everyone listening.
Speaker 1: Is that referencing the big beautiful bill and what is
Speaker 1: in there that you need so much to continue to
Speaker 1: do your job at the border.
Speaker 4: Well, we want to make the border secure permanently, so
Speaker 4: we need more infrastructure, right, so we need to finish
Speaker 4: building that wall. Now, let's be clear. Every place they
Speaker 4: build a border barrier, illegal migrations went down, illegal drug
Speaker 4: flow went down. But most important, walls save lives. Women
Speaker 4: and children can't get over that wall, the most vulnerable,
Speaker 4: so they go to a place so there's not a
Speaker 4: wall on what's waiting on them the men and women
Speaker 4: of the borderatral first of all. So the ball saves lives.
Speaker 4: So we need to finish the border barrier. We need
Speaker 4: money to finish the technology within the existing border wall,
Speaker 4: because not only did President buy and stop the construction
Speaker 4: of the wall, he stopped adding the technology in that
Speaker 4: smart wall. Technology that let's just know when someone climbs
Speaker 4: that wall, touch this wall, dig on under that wall.
Speaker 4: Technology where borbitual agents in the middle of nowhere can
Speaker 4: get on the radio and use the wall as a
Speaker 4: repeater to talk to other agents for help. There are
Speaker 4: some places on the southern border where they lose all communications.
Speaker 4: So all that technology needs to be done. More technology,
Speaker 4: get port of entries to make sure no Ventana's coming through.
Speaker 4: And as far as the entire enforcement, we need beds.
Speaker 4: Right now, we got about fifty two thousand people in detention.
Speaker 4: We're funder that thirty four thousand ICE is already in
Speaker 4: the hole. We need about one hundred thousand beds because
Speaker 4: everybody we arrest needs a bet. We just don't rest
Speaker 4: somebody in New York City and put them on a
Speaker 4: plane leave. We got to detain them for several days
Speaker 4: or several weeks to get travel doctrins, get flight flight arrangements,
Speaker 4: flight finances. So we need bets. So we need you know,
Speaker 4: so this budget, that the depending budget right now, the
Speaker 4: big beautiful bill, will give us some money for those beds.
Speaker 4: They're going to give us thousands of more borgage license,
Speaker 4: thousands more ICE agents. It's going to give ICE a
Speaker 4: budget to bring in more contracts up. What I mean
Speaker 4: by that badges and guns shouldn't be sitting at a
Speaker 4: desk doing reports of processing. They shouldn't be sitting at
Speaker 4: a desk doing travel documents and all the all the
Speaker 4: administrative duties that occur within ICE. You can have a
Speaker 4: contractor sitting there doing that work. Give that badging gun,
Speaker 4: get them out on the stree to arrest the public
Speaker 4: safety thrusts and national security threats. So we needed the money.
Speaker 4: Like I said, we're doing more than Biden did. But
Speaker 4: Biden wasn't doing anything. We need to do ten times
Speaker 4: more than buying it too, not three times more. And
Speaker 4: I'll leave you with this. We got seven hundred thousand
Speaker 4: illegal aliens in this country with a criminal conviction walking
Speaker 4: the streets this country. We got it gain and we
Speaker 4: got to gain it quickly. We got one point four
Speaker 4: man illegal aliens who do have due process that great
Speaker 4: taxpayer expense. We're ordered removed by a federal judge and
Speaker 4: didn't leave and they become fusitives. We got a lot
Speaker 4: of work to do and we need money to do more.
Speaker 4: We're doing good, but more money we have, the more
Speaker 4: we can do well.
Speaker 3: And Ben, I'll say this that that Congress, we will
Speaker 3: get this Reconciliation bill passed. It's gonna take time, it's
Speaker 3: gonna be bumpy, but we'll get it done. And when
Speaker 3: we get it done, we're gonna have funding to build
Speaker 3: the wall. We're gonna have funding for technology on the wall.
Speaker 3: We're gonna have funding for more border patrol agents. We're
Speaker 3: gonna have funding for more ice agents. We're gonna have
Speaker 3: funding for more detention beds. We're gonna have funding for
Speaker 3: more fixed wing and rotary wing aircraft. We're gonna have
Speaker 3: funding for more drones and more infra and technology. We
Speaker 3: are stepping in now. It's going to take a little
Speaker 3: bit of time to get the bill across the finish line,
Speaker 3: but I'm confident we'll do it. And i will say
Speaker 3: it really underscores something we've said on Verdict many times,
Speaker 3: which is the most important factor in securing the border.
Speaker 3: And this is what Tom said just a minute ago.
Speaker 3: It is a policy decision, and it is a decision
Speaker 3: what happens when you apprehend an illegal immigrant.
Speaker 2: And if the answer is you put them on a
Speaker 2: plane and.
Speaker 3: You fly them back home. They all have cell phones.
Speaker 3: They pick up their phones and they call home and
Speaker 3: they say, don't come. They're not letting you stay. And
Speaker 3: the flip side is true if when you apprehend them,
Speaker 3: you let them go. You say what city do you
Speaker 3: want to go to? And you put them on a plane,
Speaker 3: you put them on a bus, and you let them
Speaker 3: go in every city in America, which is what Joe
Speaker 3: Biden was doing. Again, they all have phones. They pick
Speaker 3: up the phone, they call their friends and family, and
Speaker 3: the numbers skyrocket.
Speaker 2: And so when.
Speaker 3: President Trump left office the first time he had produced
Speaker 3: the lowest rate of illegal immigration in forty five years.
Speaker 3: That's what Joe Biden inherited. It immediately skyrocketed to the
Speaker 3: worst rate of illegal immigration in history. Joe Biden allowed
Speaker 3: twelve million of the illegal immigrants to come into this country.
Speaker 3: And regular listeners of Verdict will recall I predicted, I said,
Speaker 3: we will see the numbers plummet, and it won't take
Speaker 3: a year. It won't even take six months. It will
Speaker 3: happen immediately because on day one, catch and release is
Speaker 3: going to end and we're going to see the numbers plummet.
Speaker 3: Now all that being said, Tom, let me ask you honestly,
Speaker 3: I will admit I predicted loudly that the numbers would plummet.
Speaker 3: I'll confess I didn't think they'd drop over ninety nine percent.
Speaker 3: Are you I'm surprised at just how massive the success is.
Speaker 3: Are Are you a little bit surprised or.
Speaker 4: No, I'm not surprised for all the success. I'm surprised
Speaker 4: how fast that happened. When President Trump, when he called me,
Speaker 4: asked me to be the borders our, of course I didn't.
Speaker 4: His day came back and the first meeting he had,
Speaker 4: he asked me, how long will it take you down
Speaker 4: the secure the border. I says, sir, I need I
Speaker 4: need at least one hundred and twenty days. He says, well,
Speaker 4: they get a ninety. I said, sir, I'll respect one
Speaker 4: hundred and twenty days, even pushing that. We did this
Speaker 4: in seven weeks. Seven weeks, numbers already down yep, ninety.
Speaker 4: And you're exactly right. Everything you said was right. But
Speaker 4: I want to add one thing. When Joe Biden opened
Speaker 4: that border up, he's the first president in the history
Speaker 4: of this nation who came into office and unsecured a
Speaker 4: border on purpose. This wasn't mismanagement, this wasn't incompetence. He
Speaker 4: ran on open borders, and that's exactly what he did.
Speaker 4: You know, So when you tell the whole world enter
Speaker 4: this country legally, don't worry about it. We're gonna release
Speaker 4: you anyways. And when you got a secretary of ma
Speaker 4: orkerst on ice, you can't arrest somebody for being here
Speaker 4: illegally unless they got a serious criminal conviction. The whole
Speaker 4: world's going to come. You can cross the border illegally,
Speaker 4: you get released in twenty four hours. We won't give
Speaker 4: you a free plane ticket to the city of your choice.
Speaker 4: We're going to put you in a free hotel room.
Speaker 4: We're going to give you three meals a day, We're
Speaker 4: going to give you free medical attention, and guess what,
Speaker 4: hang out for one hundred and twenty days. We're going
Speaker 4: to give you a work ass position. The very reason
Speaker 4: they came hery not because of film, because they wanted
Speaker 4: a job. So Biden did what he did, I'm purposed,
Speaker 4: and President Trump came back in seven weeks again seven
Speaker 4: weeks did what Joe Biden couldn't do or wouldn't do.
Speaker 3: Repeat the numbers you said about how many illegals are
Speaker 3: in the US right now who have criminal convictions, And
Speaker 3: to be clear, these are convictions for crimes other than
Speaker 3: crossing illegally into the country. Every illegal has committed that crime.
Speaker 3: But how many have convictions for murder, for rape, for
Speaker 3: other crimes other than crossing the border illegally.
Speaker 4: Just under seven hundred thousand.
Speaker 3: I mean, that is a stunning number. And what you're saying,
Speaker 3: and I agree with you, is is that Joe Biden
Speaker 3: deliberately chose We're going to leave murderers here, We're going
Speaker 3: to leave rapists in America, We're going to leave child
Speaker 3: molesters in America. We're not going to send ice to
Speaker 3: arrest them, We're not going to pick them up, We're
Speaker 3: not going to deport them. That they put partisan politics
Speaker 3: above protecting American families, about protecting our kids.
Speaker 4: That's why I woke up every four years pissed off
Speaker 4: every morning. President Trump when he called me, asked me
Speaker 4: to come back, and he said to me, we've been
Speaker 4: even vidging about for four years. Want to come back
Speaker 4: and fix it. And I did because I knew every
Speaker 4: morning I wake up, and Senator you know this just
Speaker 4: as well as I do. I knew every morning when
Speaker 4: I woke up, how many children died acrossing the borders
Speaker 4: last night, how many women got sexually assaulted, how many
Speaker 4: people on terrace Roster's got across the border, how many
Speaker 4: women and children were sex trafficking this country. How many
Speaker 4: billions of dollars in the cartels make how many Americans
Speaker 4: died in the last twenty four hours from Fetanah coming
Speaker 4: across the open border. For four years, I was pissed off.
Speaker 4: President Trump came back, like I said, in seven weeks,
Speaker 4: we had a border down ninety percent in seven weeks,
Speaker 4: So you know, like you said, it was matter of president,
Speaker 4: the matter of enforce the law. You know, I'll tell
Speaker 4: you it's in a cruise. And you know, every time
Speaker 4: I see in the meeting, every time I see you
Speaker 4: in the meeting, I call you out, I call you
Speaker 4: off because you've been a tip of the speer on
Speaker 4: this thing. I appreciate your working us. You're from Texas,
Speaker 4: you know, and God bless Governor Abbit and Governor Abbitt
Speaker 4: did he was more of a Secretary of Homeland Security
Speaker 4: moral we've ever been orherever thought of being, so, God
Speaker 4: blessed date of Texas. They took the first rail on
Speaker 4: this and again, I can't thank you enough. Every time
Speaker 4: I see I call you out, thank you for being
Speaker 4: the tip of the spear. I see you everywhere wanting
Speaker 4: the secure border, and you're fighting hard for me, and
Speaker 4: you're fighting hard for the men and women the border
Speaker 4: toe you're fighting hard for the men and women of Ice.
Speaker 4: I love each and every one of those men to
Speaker 4: put their live line for this country every day, men
Speaker 4: and women, and I appreciate your fight for them. You've
Speaker 4: had their six and day one and I love you
Speaker 4: for it. I appreciate it.
Speaker 3: Well, Tom, let me thank you for that I appreciate that,
Speaker 3: and I appreciate your passion and commitment. You were, you're
Speaker 3: showing up, and you said something that I think is
Speaker 3: really important for our listeners to understand. You and President
Speaker 3: Trump right now are quite literally saving lives. You are
Speaker 3: saving lives. There are Americans, and there are a significant
Speaker 3: number of Americans who are alive today because a violent
Speaker 3: criminal did not cross the border, was not released, and
Speaker 3: didn't murder them. There are women who have not been
Speaker 3: raped because you've stopped the Biden practice of releasing rapists.
Speaker 3: There are children, and the number of children who haven't
Speaker 3: been physically and sexually assaulted by human traffickers it is
Speaker 3: already I think, well into the thousands. And I want
Speaker 3: you to think about that. Thousands of little girls, thousands
Speaker 3: of little boys have not been violently, repeatedly raped by
Speaker 3: human traffickers.
Speaker 2: Why.
Speaker 3: Because President Trump came in and because you've been the
Speaker 3: borders are implementing it and secured the border, and those
Speaker 3: kids are no longer being trafficked. That is a profound
Speaker 3: legacy in just four or five months.
Speaker 4: And let me go one step further. Of Trump asked
Speaker 4: me to do three things security border run, the large,
Speaker 4: largest deportation offers I have ever seen and find these
Speaker 4: children administration, over half a million children were smuggling in
Speaker 4: this country, separated from their family, smuggling this country and
Speaker 4: put in the hands of sponsors, many unvetter sponsors. The
Speaker 4: last administration lost track of three hundred thousand of them.
Speaker 4: Those an't trumps committed to finding as many as you can.
Speaker 4: We've already found over seventy five hundred of them. Wow,
Speaker 4: someone were firfte, safe with family, Some were perfectly safe,
Speaker 4: and some weren't. Example, just there for yes, say a
Speaker 4: fourteen year old little girl already sex traffic was pregnant,
Speaker 4: living with two men who are trafficking there where they're
Speaker 4: going to prison, and we're helping that little girl. So
Speaker 4: we're going to rescue every one of these little girls
Speaker 4: and make sure that they're safe. Because many of them
Speaker 4: are going to be okay with family members. They just
Speaker 4: didn't respond to followings or so forth. But many, I guarantee,
Speaker 4: I've been doing this for over forty years. Many of
Speaker 4: them are in sex trafficking, many of them are in
Speaker 4: forced labor, living a life of hell every day. We're
Speaker 4: committed to find every one of these little children and
Speaker 4: making sure they're safe.
Speaker 1: Tom, you mentioned finding them all. Let's talk about sanctuary
Speaker 1: cities for a second. It's very clear Democrats are not
Speaker 1: backing off of that.
Speaker 5: How dangerous is the policy?
Speaker 1: And and and who is being harbored in these cities
Speaker 1: that are refusing to work with you guys?
Speaker 5: Will there be accountability?
Speaker 1: Are they harboring MS thirteen gang members and domestic terrorists,
Speaker 1: foreign terrorists? Uh, those that are putting the fetnoel out
Speaker 1: in society. How dangerous are these cities?
Speaker 4: You know, they're the dangerous, the dangerous for everybody because
Speaker 4: in the sanctuary city means I don't have access to
Speaker 4: the jail, arrest a bad guy public safety threat in
Speaker 4: the safety and security of the jail, where the alien safe,
Speaker 4: the officers safe, on the public safe. When sanctuary cities
Speaker 4: knowingly released a public safety a threat back in the street,
Speaker 4: it certainly puts the community at risk. It even puts
Speaker 4: the alien at risk because anything can happen during the
Speaker 4: street arrest, and great it puts the officers that great
Speaker 4: risk because now we've got to arrest a criminal alien
Speaker 4: public safety threat on his turf, we as access to
Speaker 4: who knows what weapons. It's very dangerous and natural host
Speaker 4: sanctuary cities accountable. Fan Bindy has already fought lawsuits against
Speaker 4: several were we're working with DJ now again. We want
Speaker 4: we want where's that right? Where's that where's that line?
Speaker 4: When do you cross that line? You can sit there
Speaker 4: and watch ICE do your job. Because here's what irritates
Speaker 4: me the most. I don't care what party you're in.
Speaker 4: If you're an elected mayor, elect, a city council person,
Speaker 4: or elected governor, your number one responsibility it's the safety
Speaker 4: and security of your neighborhoods, your communities. ICE has been
Speaker 4: clear from the beginning with President Trump, we're going to
Speaker 4: prioritize public safety threats and national security threats. Why will
Speaker 4: you not help us make your community safer? There's no
Speaker 4: downside on that. And the sanctuary city is want to
Speaker 4: argue what we're a sanctuary city because we want victims
Speaker 4: and witnesses of crime, if they're illegally United States, to
Speaker 4: feel comfortable coming to the law enforcement without fear of
Speaker 4: work with ICE. That is a bunch of crap. Victims
Speaker 4: and witnesses of crime don't want the bad guy in
Speaker 4: the neighborhood either. And as far as the illegal alien community.
Speaker 4: I'll say this, despite being here illegally, many of them
Speaker 4: are god fearing family people. They don't want a prester
Speaker 4: in they neighborhood either. They don't want someone convict to
Speaker 4: duy ten times driving to their neighborhood either. So you know,
Speaker 4: if you go to the immigrant community and ask one
Speaker 4: simple question, would you rather have ICE operating in the
Speaker 4: jail or in your community? What do you think they're
Speaker 4: going to say. They're gonna say to jail, so sanctuousities
Speaker 4: will be held accountable. Matter of fact, we're reissuing the
Speaker 4: ICE detainer. We just changed the new ICE detainer. We're
Speaker 4: letting them black and white. Let them know this person
Speaker 4: is a designated terrorist, this person is a designated return felin.
Speaker 4: We're gonna let them know exactly who do detaining based
Speaker 4: on biographic and biometric information and see what they do.
Speaker 4: Are they gonna violate relations and Riley Act, Then we'll
Speaker 4: go out to prosecution. Now they're going to know at
Speaker 4: least a terrorist. Then we're going to go out to prosecution.
Speaker 4: So it's about to get a lot tougher and it's
Speaker 4: the right thing to do.
Speaker 2: Well, and let me ask you how worried.
Speaker 3: Are you that they're a rist who came across the
Speaker 3: southern border in the last four years, that are out
Speaker 3: there and that are planning acts of terror in the
Speaker 3: United States right now?
Speaker 4: I'm convinced we got over two million known godeways. Why
Speaker 4: did two million people pay more to get away? They
Speaker 4: pay the cartels a lot more money to escape apprehension
Speaker 4: and get to New York's Chicago. Whoever, why didn't they
Speaker 4: pay less? Why would you pay more to get away
Speaker 4: because you don't want to be vetted, you don't want
Speaker 4: a two bing or printed. It's just scared to hell off.
Speaker 4: Every American scares as hell on me. Somebody's going to be,
Speaker 4: you know, child traffickers. Some of these are Karen Fatina,
Speaker 4: and some of these are going to be people from
Speaker 4: a terrort sponsored country. Under Joe Biden, we wrest over
Speaker 4: four hundred people on terrass wass's come in the Southwest border.
Speaker 4: If you don't think a single one of the two
Speaker 4: man gudaways didn't come from a country sponsoring terror, didn't
Speaker 4: come here to do us harm, then you're just crazy.
Speaker 4: As you know it was what was it? Just not
Speaker 4: a few months ago we arrested eight that were planting
Speaker 4: a terrorist tack, a Russian type terrorist tack in the
Speaker 4: United States. Luckily, he tell us, the community call him
Speaker 4: on some chair and we are able to arrest them.
Speaker 4: But we're not perfect an intelligence community. It's imperfect. They
Speaker 4: weren't perfect in Afghanistan. They weren't perfect on a lot
Speaker 4: of things. So God help us. I think they're here,
Speaker 4: just intelligent port stander here. We know where some aren't
Speaker 4: being monitored, but we don't know where others are. So
Speaker 4: that scares the hell on me.
Speaker 3: Well, and as you know, Chris Ray, the former director
Speaker 3: of the FBI, every few months would come to Congress
Speaker 3: and he would do everything but set off an alarm
Speaker 3: and bang a drum to say, we are at major
Speaker 3: risk of a terrorist attack from the open borders. Hamas
Speaker 3: and Hesbelah have declared jahads on America. As you know,
Speaker 3: the border patrol under Joe Biden was advised beyond on
Speaker 3: the lookout for Hamas has Bla and Palestinian Islamic Jehad
Speaker 3: terrorists coming across the southern border. And one of the things,
Speaker 3: Tommy you said that was really important. Of the twelve
Speaker 3: million illegal immigrants that came under Joe Biden. Roughly two
Speaker 3: million of those were god aways. That's by far the
Speaker 3: most troubling of all those folks. The other ten million
Speaker 3: are people were apprehended, and apprehended in many instances is
Speaker 3: the wrong term, because as you know, and I've spent
Speaker 3: a lot of time down on the southern border, I
Speaker 3: almost always go out on midnight patrol with the border
Speaker 3: patrol agents when I'm there. Apprehended doesn't even characterize what
Speaker 3: they were doing. Most nights, people would cross the border
Speaker 3: and they'd go look for a border patrol agent and
Speaker 3: actively turn themselves in because the result would be that
Speaker 3: Joe Biden would say where do you want to go?
Speaker 3: And would fly them to wherever they wanted to be. Literally,
Speaker 3: the Biden administration was the last mile of the human
Speaker 3: trafficking network. But Tom, what you said is exactly right.
Speaker 3: Those two million guidaways are much more likely to be
Speaker 3: violent criminals, much more likely to be murderers or rapists
Speaker 3: or child molesters, much more likely to be MS thirteen
Speaker 3: gang members, much more likely to be terrorist. And that's
Speaker 3: the population that is most worrisome. And speaking of MS
Speaker 3: thirteen gang members, just when I thought politics could not
Speaker 3: get weirder. Democrats have decided to go all in, making
Speaker 3: their central party platform be that we should admit more
Speaker 3: illegal aliens, and in particular, we want more Venezuelan gang
Speaker 3: members MS thirteen gang members here, and they decided that
Speaker 3: Kilmar Abrego Garcia is their poster child for the Democrat Party. Tom,
Speaker 3: how confident tell us about Brego Garcia? How confident are
Speaker 3: you that he's a gang member, that he's a criminal.
Speaker 4: I'm very confident, and I've talked to the head of
Speaker 4: Vice numerous times. People are understanding. So he got no
Speaker 4: due process, Yes he did. He got due process from
Speaker 4: two different federal judges who said he's at the United
Speaker 4: States a citizen al Salvador, and he gave up order
Speaker 4: of deportation. He had a great two process, a great text.
Speaker 4: Their expense on top of that manin Ice and they
Speaker 4: sent those two plane loads of TDA MS thirteen. Hundreds
Speaker 4: and hundreds of hours were spent on every case. They
Speaker 4: went to the criminal history, the immigration history, They went
Speaker 4: to intelligence report, they went to confidential performance statements, they
Speaker 4: went to wire taps, they went to a bunch of
Speaker 4: stuff to certify these people were members of TVA and
Speaker 4: MS thirteen, so they got due process several times. Obrego
Speaker 4: Garcia's home. He's a citizen Al Salvador. And for those
Speaker 4: the Democrats said, well, they made a mistake. I still
Speaker 4: say it was a mistake. It was an over temporary Oversecond,
Speaker 4: here's the problem he had it withholding order, did not
Speaker 4: returned to Al Salvador because he feared death from the gang.
Speaker 4: Two things have changed since that order was given. Number one,
Speaker 4: he's a designated terror so that with holding order has
Speaker 4: been set aside. Number two, the gang he feared it
Speaker 4: no longer exists now Salvador because the great work President
Speaker 4: Buketi did there. So the circumstances surround that with holding
Speaker 4: order are no longer valid. And here's what would happened.
Speaker 4: If somebody was to make this guy return to the
Speaker 4: United States, he would be detained and removed the next day,
Speaker 4: if not to Al Salvador, to another country. He's not here,
Speaker 4: but as President Boukeley said, he is a pre certified
Speaker 4: national of Al Salvador. He is home. He is home.
Speaker 4: He is a certified Heminister team member, not just by
Speaker 4: ice by local police departments. Intelligience Reports, Immigration judges in
Speaker 4: the country of al Salvador says he's emis thirty team member.
Speaker 4: He's home is exactly where he should be. This country,
Speaker 4: his wife, his neighborhood is a lot safer because he's
Speaker 4: locked up.
Speaker 1: I want to go back to accountability for a second time,
Speaker 1: and I want to ask you there are a lot
Speaker 1: of people that believe that there were laws that were
Speaker 1: broken deliberately in the last administration.
Speaker 5: They knew they were breaking the law. One of those
Speaker 5: would be.
Speaker 1: Former Homeland Security Secretary. My orc is that you mentioned
Speaker 1: a moment ago. Should he be criminally prosecuted for his
Speaker 1: role in the border crisis if it was as deliberate
Speaker 1: as it now seems.
Speaker 4: Look, I think what he did was borderline trees in
Speaker 4: this I'm not an attorney, I'm not a prosecutor. But
Speaker 4: what he did, he did more damage to this country.
Speaker 4: Him and the Biden administration and what they did to
Speaker 4: this country. I can tell you when they open that
Speaker 4: border up sex trafficking women, it showed to increase tenfold
Speaker 4: of a record number of migrants died making that journey.
Speaker 4: Over four thousand, or record number of Americans died from
Speaker 4: Fatanah that come across that open border, and and it's
Speaker 4: just what he what he calls this country and from
Speaker 4: a national securities perspective, because here's what his orders were,
Speaker 4: process quick, release quick. They didn't care about the crisis.
Speaker 4: They cared about the optics of the crisis. If there's
Speaker 4: no overcrowding, there's nothing to see here. So border trades
Speaker 4: were processed as quick as they could, and releases a
Speaker 4: quick as they could. And there's been several instances where
Speaker 4: they released so quickly the FBI scan didn't come back
Speaker 4: and and it came back hot. Actually they already been released.
Speaker 4: They came back hot. As a known spectatorian, So yeah,
Speaker 4: what he did was uncomfortable. What he did is my
Speaker 4: opinion borderline in treason is he should be held accountable
Speaker 4: because a lot of deaths occurred under his watch. And like,
Speaker 4: like Sundra Cruz said a few minutes ago, right now,
Speaker 4: ninety six percent decline and illegal immigration when ninety six
Speaker 4: percent less people are coming, how many women aren't being raped,
Speaker 4: how many children aren't dying crossing a border, how many
Speaker 4: no inspected terarists aren't getting in the country. How many
Speaker 4: pounds of fatanyl is not getting a country? What are
Speaker 4: you going to see in the President Trump's administration, vatanyl
Speaker 4: deaths with decrease, sex trafficking with decrease, smuggling with decrease,
Speaker 4: and no inspected tarors. They got no open n anymore.
Speaker 4: Now that we got the board secure, every single Borders
Speaker 4: religion is on the lying on patrol. During his National
Speaker 4: Security duty under Joe Biden, it was an average most days,
Speaker 4: an average seventy percent seven zero seventy percent of agents
Speaker 4: were no longer on patrol. They were changing diapers, making
Speaker 4: baby formula, making hospital runs. The last time aren't down there.
Speaker 4: Before the election, I talked to hundreds of board plays
Speaker 4: and told me to hang on, hang on, changes coming.
Speaker 4: I really think President Trump's going to win. But they
Speaker 4: told me no, we're sick of being tour station. We're
Speaker 4: sick of being uber drivers. We process and delivered these people,
Speaker 4: that is the very same people who pay for their smuggling.
Speaker 4: They couldn't recruit. They couldn't people were quitting. They were
Speaker 4: quickly for it, even as well for retirement. They couldn't
Speaker 4: re recruiting numbers. You know, last month Ice I'm excusing
Speaker 4: Bord Patrol had the highst recruiting numbers and the history
Speaker 4: of that agency just last month.
Speaker 2: That's fantastic.
Speaker 3: And look, I will say Tom's not exaggerating at all,
Speaker 3: Like when I would visit with border patrol agents the frustration. Look,
Speaker 3: the men and women who sign up for the border patrol,
Speaker 3: they do so because they're patriots. They do so because
Speaker 3: they love America. They do so because they want to
Speaker 3: keep our communities and our families and our kids safe,
Speaker 3: and they want to be out on patrol. Look, these
Speaker 3: that's what you sign up in the job. And they
Speaker 3: were sitting there just shuffling paperwork, they were processing and
Speaker 3: just running a revolving door to try to release as
Speaker 3: many illegal immigrants.
Speaker 2: As fast as possible.
Speaker 3: That's what may orcs looked viewed as job is accelerate
Speaker 3: illegal immigration, not stop it, but but make it go
Speaker 3: more quickly. Let me ask you, Tom, you mentioned fentanyl.
Speaker 3: What do we know about the numbers of fentanyl traffic
Speaker 3: over the first four months of the Trump administration.
Speaker 4: There's been a decrease, and I've got from three or
Speaker 4: four different sources. The percentage of decrease is different from
Speaker 4: every source. The problem is the CDC doesn't have good
Speaker 4: metrics on fatanyl but look across the country. You can
Speaker 4: see the decrease in fatanyl fatanyhls being c's on the
Speaker 4: southern border. And it's the metrics. And that's maybe something
Speaker 4: you all work on up there in the Senate. UH,
Speaker 4: CDC needs a tract is more more more accurately. Like
Speaker 4: I said, you got you got a number of deaths
Speaker 4: reported by states. You got a number of deaths reported
Speaker 4: by CDC. None of them match. So, but we do
Speaker 4: know there's been a reduction. You don't see you know,
Speaker 4: three hundred people dying every day from fantolic We did that,
Speaker 4: did see right? We know we don't have two, you know,
Speaker 4: nine to elevens a week happening from kid dying from Patanah.
Speaker 4: So I don't have exact numbers, but we already see
Speaker 4: the effects of a secure boarder.
Speaker 3: And Tom, let me ask you also. So one of
Speaker 3: the things we've talked about on this podcast. In twenty eighteen,
Speaker 3: the Mexican drug cartels made roughly five hundred million dollars
Speaker 3: from human trafficking. Last year, the drug cartels made over
Speaker 3: thirteen billion dollars from human trafficking. That's a twenty six
Speaker 3: hundred percent increase. Do we have any data yet, Do
Speaker 3: you have any visibility on what has happened to the
Speaker 3: drug cartel's revenue because one of the worst consequences of
Speaker 3: what Biden's open border did is is it turned these vicious, murderous,
Speaker 3: transnational criminal organizations into incredibly wealthy powerhouses and it put
Speaker 3: huge resources in their pockets. Do do you have any
Speaker 3: data on what's happened to their revenues?
Speaker 4: Well, one of the first best thing President Trump did
Speaker 4: was designated terrorist organization because these cartels have killed more Americans. Yeah,
Speaker 4: every turn is in the world combined. We knew that.
Speaker 4: That's why there's so mu's buy on some mech show.
Speaker 4: The last four years cartels were fighting each other for
Speaker 4: control of the plausas. Why because they're making record amounts
Speaker 4: of money, smuggling people, record amount of money and trafficking women, children,
Speaker 4: and a record amount of money moving dope across that border. Now,
Speaker 4: with the board secure, we're hitting them where it hurts.
Speaker 4: Smugglings down, both drugs and people trafficking is down, So
Speaker 4: we're hitting the where it hurts. That's why the latest
Speaker 4: intelligence force I see they're trying to produce and push
Speaker 4: more fatanol into Asian European nations because their market here
Speaker 4: in the United States has been so brutally attacked. I
Speaker 4: wish what would happen is that Mexico would agree with
Speaker 4: President Trump to let us help them take the cartels
Speaker 4: and wipe them off the face of the ears. Because
Speaker 4: right now they're like the holicical cartel. They're in forty
Speaker 4: four countries around the globe. They're like a fortune five
Speaker 4: hundred company. It's going to take the United States to
Speaker 4: take them on. Mexico's failed for decades to do it,
Speaker 4: and a lot of mech showing the military, police and
Speaker 4: government presses are corrupt. I'll say this, a lot of
Speaker 4: the corruption is force corruption. Because you're a police officer
Speaker 4: in Mexico. You're making you know, four hundred dollars a month.
Speaker 4: But a Mexican tartel comes up and i'llsly ten thousand
Speaker 4: looks the other way, and you're going to take it?
Speaker 4: Are they going to kill you and your family? I
Speaker 4: think Mexico will be a much safer and much prosper
Speaker 4: more prosperous country if they let President Trump help them
Speaker 4: lepe the cartels off the face of the ear.
Speaker 3: Look that that is absolutely right, And let me underscore
Speaker 3: that point. A lot of people don't realize, particularly those
Speaker 3: on the left, that that what what Joe Biden the
Speaker 3: Democrats did, it wasn't just horribly cruel to the American people.
Speaker 3: It was horribly cruel to Mexican nationals in Mexico. Turning
Speaker 3: these vicious criminals into the most powerful economic force in
Speaker 3: Mexico has increased the murder rate, the crime rate, the
Speaker 3: kidnapping rate rate. I visited with with a Mexican mayor
Speaker 3: of a town on the other side of the border.
Speaker 3: And I'm not going to say which mayor because he
Speaker 3: told me in confidence because he was afraid, but he
Speaker 3: said in his town they had had over three thousand disappearances,
Speaker 3: just people Mexican nationals living in Mexico who just ran
Speaker 3: a foul of the cartel and they just disappear, and
Speaker 3: they find mass graves and and the suffering and murder
Speaker 3: and kidnapping. That that that that has happened in Mexico
Speaker 3: because of the Democrats political decision I think was cruel
Speaker 3: and horrible. And and Tom, you're exactly right that that
Speaker 3: the US military can take out the cartels.
Speaker 2: And we've done it before in Colombia.
Speaker 3: President Eurreibe asked the military to come in and take
Speaker 3: out the cartels in Colombia, and we came in and
Speaker 3: did that, and we could do it again, and and
Speaker 3: I do think it would be much better if the
Speaker 3: Mexican government invited us in. It would have transformational impact
Speaker 3: within Mexico.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they say a lot of lives, like say, vexing
Speaker 4: cartoons have killed foul who's of judges and prosecutors and journalists, Yeah,
Speaker 4: and citizens. So you know, I wish they I wish
Speaker 4: they'd joined with President Trump and that would be a
Speaker 4: game changer, uh, for Mexico and the United Things.
Speaker 3: All right, final question, we saw just this week that
Speaker 3: that New Jersey Democrat Congresswoman Lamonica mac Ivor was charged
Speaker 3: for assaulting law enforcement at an ice facility. Uh, tell
Speaker 3: me tell us how important that is and and what
Speaker 3: do you think about about the fact that that charges
Speaker 3: were brought for assault. We saw during the Biden administration repeatedly, Uh,
Speaker 3: law enforcement, Customs Border patrol ice agents were subject to
Speaker 3: physical assault and no charges were brought. How important is
Speaker 3: it that these charges were brought?
Speaker 4: The Sun's a strong menses is very important and also
Speaker 4: proves I don't bluff, I'd said from the David inauguration.
Speaker 4: If you want to not support ICE, well, shame mind you.
Speaker 4: But you have that right. If you want to protest
Speaker 4: against ICE and to protest against trust policies, that's fine.
Speaker 4: If you want to watch ICE comm in and clean
Speaker 4: your city up because you're a sanctuary of city, don't
Speaker 4: want to help, you can do that too. But ICE
Speaker 4: had from day one. You can't cross that line. You
Speaker 4: can't cross the line of impediment. That's a felony. You
Speaker 4: can't cross the line on noially and harboring concealing the
Speaker 4: able to go amless mice, that's a felony. You certainly
Speaker 4: can't commit criminal trespasses at our facilities. And for God's sake,
Speaker 4: you can't put hands on i ICE officers. And this
Speaker 4: happened during the same time frame. The same week I
Speaker 4: went to Blue Mass in Washington, D C. And remembrance
Speaker 4: of the men and women in law enforce and put
Speaker 4: their lives on the lines of this country every day.
Speaker 4: So we spend a week just just just praising these
Speaker 4: men and women, talking to their families who also paid
Speaker 4: the ultimate sacrifice. They lost the loved one forever children
Speaker 4: lost their fathers and mothers, and mothers and fathers lost
Speaker 4: their sons and daughters in the same week we're supposed
Speaker 4: to be honor in law enforcement. You got some of
Speaker 4: the member coundress put their hands in shoving an ice officer,
Speaker 4: which makes that facility very unsafe. And I'm sick and
Speaker 4: tired of hearing what we have congression oversight responsibilities. There
Speaker 4: is a right way and wrong way to do it.
Speaker 4: You don't force your way in the facility. You don't
Speaker 4: put hands on an officer. We do oversight all the time.
Speaker 4: And what are they finding out as people are getting
Speaker 4: tours in that facility that they have the highest detention
Speaker 4: standards in the industry, and it puts every every other
Speaker 4: UH detention center in jail in the state of New Jersey,
Speaker 4: whether it is a county or state. It puts them
Speaker 4: to shame because our detention standards are so high. So
Speaker 4: when you go and calls that kind of practice, where
Speaker 4: we're trying to maintain a facility with very dangerous people inside,
Speaker 4: we got to protect not only the criminals, we got
Speaker 4: to protect the employees and the citizens on the outside.
Speaker 4: What she did was just horrendous she she put hands
Speaker 4: on an officer. Like they said for four years, no
Speaker 4: one's above the law. You're damn right. They're not above
Speaker 4: the law, even members of Congress. The president is above
Speaker 4: the law, but these are members of Congress.
Speaker 3: Look amen, And I will say, Tom, I've visited dozens
Speaker 3: of ICE facilities and CVP facilities. I've never found it
Speaker 3: difficult to refrain from physical assault on an officer. Somehow,
Speaker 3: that temptation was never there for me, and in fact
Speaker 3: for the opposite. It is my job to have their backs.
Speaker 3: That's a job I take incredibly seriously. And I just
Speaker 3: want to say, Tom, you were a patriot. You were
Speaker 3: a great American. We have roughly a million unique listeners
Speaker 3: who listened to Verdict, and I want to say, on
Speaker 3: behalf of all of them, and on behalf of thirty
Speaker 3: one million Texans, thank you for what you are doing.
Speaker 3: You are keeping my children safer, and Tom, I am
Speaker 3: grateful you are on that front line for us, and
Speaker 3: you and President Trump are making a massive difference for
Speaker 3: the entire country.
Speaker 4: Well, I appreciate that, but I'm not going to take credit.
Speaker 4: Please give the thank for your listeners. You see a
Speaker 4: borbous agent. Nice yes, just say thank you, because I
Speaker 4: cannot believe that we knew they're going to take hate
Speaker 4: as soon as President something got back in. But say
Speaker 4: thank you because these men and women, their mothers and
Speaker 4: fathers too. They don't hang their heart down the hook
Speaker 4: at home and you go to work. They see a
Speaker 4: lot of terrible things. They put the life on the line.
Speaker 4: At three o'clock this morning, when everybody is sleeping, me
Speaker 4: and Sender is sleeping. At three am this morning, there's
Speaker 4: borbite lace and standing on a dirt trail someplace going
Speaker 4: to take something on. They don't know if it's just
Speaker 4: an illegal alien or heavily armed drug smunker. They're going
Speaker 4: to take it on in the nearest back of us,
Speaker 4: miles away. God bless the men and women of borbetow
Speaker 4: God best and the women the vice, and God bless
Speaker 4: this great nation. We're taking it.
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