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Speaker 1: What's up, friends, and welcome into Fantasy pros. This is

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Speaker 1: the Fantasy Football Podcast. I'm Chris Welsh and we are

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Speaker 1: talking ranks. That's right, it's Week five ranks. This is

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Speaker 1: the wide Receiver episode and the gang is back together.

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Speaker 1: We got Pat Fitzmorris and the return of Andrew Rickson.

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Speaker 1: He's back. The crowd roars ericson. How was a wedding season? Season?

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Speaker 2: Lot?

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Speaker 1: Are we doing?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Good to go to the West coast, California, Temecula Wine Country.

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Speaker 2: For those that are unfamiliar, it was a lot of

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Speaker 2: It was a lot of fun. Congratulations to the new

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Speaker 2: mister and missus. My cousin got married and uh, you

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Speaker 2: guys would think that this was the last wedding. Now

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Speaker 2: I got another one coming out, so that would be fun.

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Speaker 1: No, I have known you for a little bit of time.

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Speaker 1: Now I know that it is never the end. I

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Speaker 1: haven't been to a wedding in like ten years, and

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Speaker 1: you've been to ten in the last year, so I

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Speaker 1: know it is never the end. Ericson is a is

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Speaker 1: a busy bee, Fitzie, not a big not a big

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Speaker 1: going to weddings guy. I'm a big rank and complaining

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Speaker 1: about Juwan Jennings, guy, I don't know about.

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Speaker 4: If it's stages of life. Ericson is at this stage

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Speaker 4: where like one of his friends is getting married every

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Speaker 4: other weekend. I met more like the divorce stage where

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Speaker 4: some of my friends you know, been married a long time,

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Speaker 4: like they're, yeah, we're sick of each other.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna have this.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the divorce stage where they're getting where those guys

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Speaker 1: are also getting a little bit more into fantasy football too.

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Speaker 1: Those kind of coincid sometimes. So all right, well let's uh,

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Speaker 1: let's figure out who are we marrying, who are we divorcing.

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Speaker 1: As far as wide receivers for Week five, there's a

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Speaker 1: bunch of decisions. Boy, there's a bunch of injuries. So

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Speaker 1: we got a lot to cipher through here. As we're

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Speaker 1: gonna be going through the top thirty six we've got,

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Speaker 1: we are trying to kind of figure out what some

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Speaker 1: of the big questions might be where we have some

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Speaker 1: big rank differences, and that is what we are going

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Speaker 1: to be tackling today. Speaking of ranks, of course, you

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Speaker 1: can follow along at fantasypros dot com slash rankings. You

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Speaker 1: can go and check out what the ECR is and

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Speaker 1: every single week we've got our rank contest. It goes

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Speaker 1: all season long, and each week we get number ones, twos,

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Speaker 1: and threes. Unfortunately, none of us were on the board. Fortunately,

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Speaker 1: just want to point out I was the highest of

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Speaker 1: our group. But it is nothing to get excited about.

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Speaker 1: What there is to be excited about is Chris Raybon,

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Speaker 1: who finished number one in the Ranks Contest for week four,

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Speaker 1: Chris Dell finishing two, and keV Wheeler. Let's all give

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Speaker 1: them their flowers. They finish one, two, and three in

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Speaker 1: the Ranks Contest for this week. This is a tough week.

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Speaker 1: I got Jalen warrens I did not get to fix

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Speaker 1: Jalen Warren. I've also figured out I might be the

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Speaker 1: greatest tight end ranker on the planet. I ranked in

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Speaker 1: the top ten. I'm five on the season. So if

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Speaker 1: you need your tight ends, come to me. Those guys

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Speaker 1: they'll get you with everything else. But Chris Raybron, Chris Dell,

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Speaker 1: and keV Wheeler, those are your top three in the

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Speaker 1: ranks and boys, we're gonna we're gonna pick it up

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Speaker 1: this week. I feel good. I feel I got a

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Speaker 1: premonition that Ericson's gonna finish really high in the ranks.

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Speaker 1: I don't know why. I feel like it's gonna be

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Speaker 1: a little bit of Waller. There's gonna be a wide receiver.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna get down. I think Ericson's gonna finish pretty high.

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Speaker 1: So before we tackle this and get into the ranks,

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Speaker 1: let's also talk about some wide receiver giveaways. We're not

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Speaker 1: talking about the Jamar Chase giveaway anymore because we are

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Speaker 1: going to give it and then we've got a new

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Speaker 1: Chase Bengals jersey giveaway is McCoy, the real McCoy. That's it.

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Speaker 1: That's all it says on here is just McCoy. So

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Speaker 1: stay on the lookout and congratulations on winning our friend McCoy.

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Speaker 1: All right, fencepros dot Com Slash Rankings, gentlemen, Let's kick

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Speaker 1: up the big board. Let's look at the top twelve

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Speaker 1: for week five. Starts with Puka Nakua. There's a Night

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Speaker 1: Football amanas Saint Brown, Jackson Smith and Jigba, Justin Jefferson

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Speaker 1: and Garrett Wilson. That's our top five. Nico Collins, DeVante Adams,

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Speaker 1: George Pickens, a Mecca, Igbuka, Jamar Chase at ten, Deebo

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Speaker 1: Samuel and Quintin Johnson at twelve, Just like we all

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Speaker 1: thought Week five was gonna look like in the ranks,

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Speaker 1: just when you all knew that Garrett Wilson would be

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Speaker 1: actually a couple things to talk about in the top twelve.

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Speaker 1: Let's start with George Pickens. George Pickens is ECR eight

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Speaker 1: this week. Both of you find gentlemen have him a

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Speaker 1: little bit lower. I'm curious if there's anything with that.

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Speaker 1: This is pretty minuscule, but you guys are lower than

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Speaker 1: consensus where everybody's kind of putting a big week on him.

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Speaker 1: What do you think about Pickens this week, FITZI.

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Speaker 4: I under ranked Pickens last week because I was worried

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Speaker 4: Cede Lambout. You know, Pickens had been miscast as a

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Speaker 4: lead receiver in Pittsburgh. I was bullish about Pickens during

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Speaker 4: I love the idea of George Pickens being able to

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Speaker 4: and he was getting a big quarterback upgrade with Dak Prescott. Well,

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Speaker 4: Pickens did really well as an alpha receiver last week,

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Speaker 4: and it looked silly to have been worried about his

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Speaker 4: going to be seeing a lot of Sauce Gardner this week.

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Speaker 4: And I don't know if it's possible for Dak Prescott

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Speaker 4: Like I'm guessing that if you ask Dak, he would

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Speaker 4: I mean, obviously you're you're starting him and probably feeling

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Speaker 1: Ecktionon, you're a little bit lower. Are you worried about

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Speaker 2: I think that it's worth mentioning and when you're trying

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Speaker 2: think that the Greenmay Packers have cornerbacks there as good

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Speaker 2: And that's not a matchup that oh where Dallas like,

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Speaker 2: let's attack Sauce Gardner all day long. It doesn't make

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Speaker 2: if they find that Kamanti and has like all these

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Speaker 2: So that's kind of my take on it. Just again,

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Speaker 2: out with another offensive line injury. Tyler Geiton had a

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Speaker 2: three starters like in the past two weeks, like as

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Speaker 2: great as Dak played to fits his point, I think

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Speaker 1: If there was like if you could go back in

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Speaker 1: scenario where George Pickens would rank higher than Jamar Chase.

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Speaker 1: That's kind of the big question now we are faced

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Speaker 1: with can we start Jamar Chase. It's a legitimate question

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Speaker 1: that we are all facing because it is multiple weeks

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Speaker 1: of what looks like the most I affectionately say pisspoor

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Speaker 1: are offensive line browning is not it. Jamar Chase still, though,

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Speaker 1: is a wide receiver one. This week he falls down

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Speaker 1: to ten. Fitzi you've got him at nine and Ericson

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Speaker 1: you've got him at six. You guys are still both

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Speaker 1: above consensus. You're holding out hope. There is absolutely a

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Speaker 1: mental side of this to like, imagine benching Jamar Chase

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Speaker 1: and he does go off. He is so crazy talented,

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Speaker 1: but we are seeing weeks and weeks of this not working.

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Speaker 1: start bop bop bop over Jamar Chase is justified And

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure that I fully buy in here, but

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Speaker 1: maybe there's some matchup stuff that's in play here. Ericson

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Speaker 1: on sexually start with you because you are the high guy.

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Speaker 1: You've got him at six this week. What is your

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Speaker 1: level of I mean, you have him at six, so

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Speaker 1: I know your level of warry isn't like crazy, but legitimately,

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Speaker 1: how far off are we from having to put him

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Speaker 1: in Brian Thomas territory into the twenties.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm not trying to overreact to two bad games

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Speaker 2: from Jake Browning when the matchups have been terrible for him.

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Speaker 2: He's played back to back road games against the Minnesota

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Speaker 2: Vikings Brian Flores Defense No Boyo and at the Denver

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Speaker 2: Broncos on the road. So do we all just forget

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Speaker 2: about what happened the last time we saw Jake Browning

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Speaker 2: play at home against the Jaguars. Oh, jam Ar Chase

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Speaker 2: had a great game, like he was fine, and you

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Speaker 2: just look at Jim You look at Jake Browning in

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Speaker 2: his career as a backup, his record at home six

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Speaker 2: and two, on the road one and six. I think

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Speaker 2: that we are just burying Jake Browning after he just

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Speaker 2: had two really bad matchups on the road, Like that's

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Speaker 2: not his fault, Like the schedule just did not work

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Speaker 2: in his favor. So after week three, or excuse me,

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Speaker 2: after the game where Joe Burrow got hurt, it seemed

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Speaker 2: like okay, like we can be okay with Jake Browning.

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Speaker 2: The Jacksonville game was fine for Jamar Chase. He had

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Speaker 2: like sixteen targets, and now we're just gonna completely forget

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Speaker 2: that ever happened and just write him off because of

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Speaker 2: these two tougher matchups on the road. So that's why

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Speaker 1: My biggest worry would be that offensive line is so

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Speaker 2: So what I told this person.

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Speaker 4: When he asked me about why I'm continuing to rank

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Speaker 1: Do we think just as a quick like, we don't

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Speaker 1: This is a family conversation about the Chargers wide receivers.

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Speaker 1: Quinton Johnston is number twelve. FITZI, I think I might

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Speaker 1: Quentin Johnston deserved to be the top guy on that list,

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Speaker 1: But that was still me loving Ladd McConkey. I'm brooke

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Speaker 1: he is talented. He doesn't work as an elite wide

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Speaker 1: good options. There's too many good options for Herbert. That's

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Speaker 1: Now Herbert can go to first read. Bam. He's up

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Speaker 1: That's what's creating this mix. So there's a Lad conversation

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Speaker 4: I was on a show with my friend Kevin Tompkins

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Speaker 4: I think we probably do. But I think it's less

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Speaker 4: Keenan Allen, and especially Quentin Johnston, like QJ, was talented

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Speaker 4: And Quinton Johnston's hands were obviously a major issue early

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Speaker 4: don't know what Quinton Johnston and Jim Harbaugh and the

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Speaker 1: But see, I think part of the problem is I

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So one of the reasons like this is kind

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Speaker 2: have been rolling coverage towards mconkee to be like, no,

430
00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:16,960
Speaker 2: we're not letting this guy beat us, and then Quin

431
00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:19,760
Speaker 2: Johnson has been absolutely feasting. So eventually you're gonna see

432
00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:21,320
Speaker 2: teams all right, well, now we have to pay more

433
00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:24,159
Speaker 2: attention to this third year breakout because he's absolutely killing us.

434
00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:26,640
Speaker 2: We can let up a little bit on La mcconky,

435
00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:29,480
Speaker 2: and I think this particular matchup against the Commanders this

436
00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:31,359
Speaker 2: is a spot where I think lad can finally bounce

437
00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:33,800
Speaker 2: back because they're one of the worst defenses in the

438
00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:37,560
Speaker 2: NFL this year against slot receivers. They're dead last in

439
00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:40,960
Speaker 2: yards per target to the slot. The leader in slot

440
00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:43,680
Speaker 2: routes for the Chargers is Lam mcconky. So although they're

441
00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:46,399
Speaker 2: mixing in Keenan Allen a little bit, even Quentin Johnson

442
00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:50,080
Speaker 2: to an effect in the slot. It's interesting because even

443
00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:52,520
Speaker 2: though McConkie is running in most of his routes from

444
00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:54,720
Speaker 2: the slot, he's been the least productive slot receiver for

445
00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:57,280
Speaker 2: the Chargers. I believe Johnson and Allen both had like

446
00:20:57,320 --> 00:21:00,479
Speaker 2: more yards, more catches and have been just we're productive

447
00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:04,280
Speaker 2: with those opportunities. Whereas mcconky, he hasn't played great. Like

448
00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:06,040
Speaker 2: that's the other thing too, like part of it is

449
00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:08,399
Speaker 2: on him. The usage. Again, it hasn't been ideal, but

450
00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:11,119
Speaker 2: he's also dropped more passes than we're occasionally used to

451
00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:13,879
Speaker 2: him seeing, hasn't been winning these fifty to fifty balls

452
00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:16,920
Speaker 2: and obviously hasn't scored any touchdowns. I think that changes

453
00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:19,000
Speaker 2: because of the matchup this weekends the Commanders where I

454
00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:21,720
Speaker 2: slot funnel defense third most targets, fourth, most points allowed

455
00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:24,720
Speaker 2: to slot receivers this season, Like I mentioned four league

456
00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:26,879
Speaker 2: high yards per target ten point one to pass catches

457
00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:29,480
Speaker 2: aligned in the slot this season. I don't think that's

458
00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:32,120
Speaker 2: gonna be Want to notice, when the Charges are putting together,

459
00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:34,160
Speaker 2: the game plans like, oh wow, like we can really

460
00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:37,080
Speaker 2: get lad going this particular week. So I don't think

461
00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:38,359
Speaker 2: this is the week to bench Lae mcconka a and

462
00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:39,920
Speaker 2: then get Yes, he's more of that wide receiver too,

463
00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:42,399
Speaker 2: just because I don't think the other guys completely go away.

464
00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:45,480
Speaker 2: But Yeah, I'm in on Lad this week.

465
00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:47,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I'm not going to make a big argument

466
00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:49,680
Speaker 1: about like this week and how you want to approach it.

467
00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:52,280
Speaker 1: I think it's the bigger piece of this is like

468
00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:54,119
Speaker 1: when you guys make the argument that Hey is not

469
00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:57,240
Speaker 1: going to be wide receiver fifty six, that's not necessarily

470
00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:59,840
Speaker 1: telling like because again, if he's wide receiver thirty eight

471
00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:02,600
Speaker 1: or thirty six or thirty five or something like that, well,

472
00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:05,440
Speaker 1: guess what, he's super inconsistent and that's my problem with

473
00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:07,399
Speaker 1: him knowing when to start him. So you want to

474
00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:10,280
Speaker 1: see consistency. Hopefully this is the start of it. He

475
00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:13,000
Speaker 1: is way too talented to not be used. But I

476
00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:15,760
Speaker 1: do feel he's kind of a hard, hard start in general.

477
00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:17,800
Speaker 1: But you guys are kind of seeing that with Quinton Johnson.

478
00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:21,240
Speaker 1: So do you have it ranked Johnston, Ladd, and Keenan Allen, Like.

479
00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:24,640
Speaker 2: Fits, I have it Lad Johnston and then Keenan Allen.

480
00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:26,240
Speaker 1: Because you have Lad above everybody.

481
00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:28,399
Speaker 2: Okay, I just believe in the matchup this week, like

482
00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:31,639
Speaker 2: this is Ladd's spot to have a productive game like

483
00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:33,919
Speaker 2: he had his rookie year, And yes he's I think

484
00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:36,360
Speaker 2: he's one spot ahead Quin Johnson's room, because I don't

485
00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:38,880
Speaker 2: expect Johnson to to lay an egg in any capacity.

486
00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:41,159
Speaker 2: I mean, Marshall Lattimore is I mean, he's turning to

487
00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:44,240
Speaker 2: like a turnstyle type of cornerback where I kind of

488
00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:46,760
Speaker 2: hope that you they put Lattimore on Johnston more on

489
00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:48,440
Speaker 2: one and just kind of see how that goes. And

490
00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:51,480
Speaker 2: that's obviously a matchup that Johnson should win. But I

491
00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:55,200
Speaker 2: think that this slot matchup for lat McConkey is ideal

492
00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:55,960
Speaker 2: for him to get going.

493
00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:58,719
Speaker 1: All right, let's move to the wider It's a lot

494
00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:00,600
Speaker 1: of conversation we had on the wider sh ones, but

495
00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:02,000
Speaker 1: there are some good things we need to do in there.

496
00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:05,080
Speaker 1: Let's go to wide receiver twos this week. We've got

497
00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:08,240
Speaker 1: thirteen through twenty four, starting with Courtland Sutton, followed by

498
00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:12,160
Speaker 1: Jay Flowers, Tteroa, McMillan, Michael Pittman, AJ Brown, Jaylen Waddle,

499
00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:15,960
Speaker 1: Xavier Worthy, Keenan Allen, Jacobe Myers, Marvin Harris, and Brian

500
00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:16,840
Speaker 1: Thomas and Olave.

501
00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:17,440
Speaker 2: So there you go.

502
00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:19,719
Speaker 1: That tells you right there, we got Keenan Allen as

503
00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:22,000
Speaker 1: far as ecr as the number two. So lad has

504
00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:24,639
Speaker 1: dropped down there a couple points to hit on here.

505
00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:29,040
Speaker 1: Let's start with Michael Pittman ECR sixteen. You guys are

506
00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:32,800
Speaker 1: both lower, Fitzi at nineteen, Ericson at twenty four, even lower.

507
00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:34,639
Speaker 1: Let's get a quick hit Eric, So I whan't we

508
00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:37,320
Speaker 1: start with you? Michael Pittman. This is probably the highest

509
00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:40,960
Speaker 1: he's ranked this season. You guys are a little bit lower,

510
00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:42,840
Speaker 1: but you still are in starting range. What are your

511
00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:44,760
Speaker 1: thoughts on Michael Pittman for this week as a starter?

512
00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:46,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, I had to move him up a little bit

513
00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:49,399
Speaker 2: since I first put my rankings in and just kind

514
00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:51,280
Speaker 2: of a peek behind the curtain for when we're doing these.

515
00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:53,440
Speaker 2: We do our initial ranks and then fits will take

516
00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:56,159
Speaker 2: out certain players that we think are most debatable to

517
00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:58,119
Speaker 2: talk about. But then as I'm kind of prepping for

518
00:23:58,200 --> 00:23:59,960
Speaker 2: the show, I'll go back in and kind of update

519
00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,800
Speaker 2: things based on stark differences. And Michael Pittman, to me,

520
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:04,520
Speaker 2: was one of the players that I kind of looked

521
00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:06,760
Speaker 2: again at and thought, now I think I am too

522
00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:08,160
Speaker 2: low on him because you just look at what he's

523
00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:10,359
Speaker 2: done this year. He's been a top twenty two finisher

524
00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:12,720
Speaker 2: in all the games that he played except against the Broncos,

525
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:14,840
Speaker 2: which we all know is okay, this is the Patricks

526
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,480
Speaker 2: retained matchup. Nobody ever plays really well against him, so

527
00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:20,200
Speaker 2: it's okay that he was wide receiver sixty six that week.

528
00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:22,639
Speaker 2: So he's been locked and loaded as the top twenty

529
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:24,440
Speaker 2: two guy, and the Raiders have a lot of the

530
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:26,800
Speaker 2: third most Fantasy points to wide receivers, so I moved

531
00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:28,760
Speaker 2: him up much closer to the ECR rank.

532
00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:32,040
Speaker 1: FITZI you on the buy in. I mean, like I said,

533
00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:35,600
Speaker 1: as Ericson said, Pittman has been finishing high. He is

534
00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:38,639
Speaker 1: not ranked high really whatsoever, but now this is the

535
00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:40,959
Speaker 1: first week that everybody is just kind of in as

536
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,720
Speaker 1: he goes up against the Raiders, which is one of

537
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:45,920
Speaker 1: the few in this wide receiver two range four star

538
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,359
Speaker 1: matchups according to Fantasy Pros. If you check out on

539
00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:50,200
Speaker 1: the ranks page, you can go and see all of

540
00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:52,840
Speaker 1: that and it is also given an A rating. What

541
00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:53,800
Speaker 1: do you think about Pittman?

542
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:57,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, as Ericson said, this is a really attractive matchup

543
00:24:57,520 --> 00:24:59,320
Speaker 4: with the Raiders having a lot of the fourth most

544
00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:02,879
Speaker 4: receiving r and fourth most receptions to wide receivers, and

545
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,919
Speaker 4: Pittman's been pretty consistent as far as volume has at

546
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,720
Speaker 4: least four catches in every game. But I do think

547
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:12,399
Speaker 4: maybe the ECR is just a little bit of an

548
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:16,320
Speaker 4: overreaction to the touchdown output for Michael Pittman. So far,

549
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:19,440
Speaker 4: He's had three touchdown catches, but he's only had one

550
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 4: red zone target this entire season. Like his his touchdowns

551
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,200
Speaker 4: have come from outside the twenty yard line. And I

552
00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:29,920
Speaker 4: think Tyler Warren is kind of clearly Daniel Jones go

553
00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:33,840
Speaker 4: to guy close to the end zone, So maybe he's

554
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:37,280
Speaker 4: just a little overinflated as far as where ECR has him.

555
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:43,400
Speaker 1: Unfortunately, Tyreek Hill had the dislocated knee might be career threatening.

556
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:45,520
Speaker 1: He's definitely out for this season. That's what we know.

557
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:50,280
Speaker 1: But what it has unlocked is Jalen Waddle. Sison ericson

558
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:52,680
Speaker 1: the smile comes because he knew, he knows what was coming.

559
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:56,159
Speaker 1: Where we can just freely get back to betting overs

560
00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:58,080
Speaker 1: on Jalen Waddle. That's all that we really want in

561
00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:00,960
Speaker 1: this world. He is ECR eighteen. Both of you have

562
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:04,160
Speaker 1: got him higher. Fitzy at fifteen, Erickson's at fourteen fifty.

563
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,560
Speaker 1: Let's start with you real quick. He becomes the de

564
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:08,920
Speaker 1: facto number one. I think that puts him in a

565
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 1: good spot. I think some people might argue he would

566
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 1: want to go even higher. I can already feel in

567
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:16,440
Speaker 1: like the Sunday chat, we're gonna get like Waddle or

568
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:18,880
Speaker 1: Jamar Chase. I feel like that's like a question that's

569
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:21,040
Speaker 1: going to start popping up. But how excited should we be?

570
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:23,359
Speaker 1: You guys are higher than ECR. This is a pretty

571
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:25,840
Speaker 1: good rank on Wattle here, So FITZI what you take?

572
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, no matter how eternal my Jalen Wattle optimism, I'm

573
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 4: never going to be able to outflank Erickson on Jalen Wattle.

574
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,920
Speaker 4: That's just a given, you know. And I just don't

575
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:38,639
Speaker 4: want to stop batting on a former top ten draft

576
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:41,920
Speaker 4: pick who began his career with three straight thousand yard seasons.

577
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:46,359
Speaker 4: And you know, now with Tua healthy and Tyreek Hill

578
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:49,080
Speaker 4: no longer round, you would have to imagine that Jalen

579
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 4: Wattle's going to get at least some additional targets.

580
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:54,440
Speaker 1: I think we're gonna talk about Milake Washington a little

581
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:56,359
Speaker 1: bit later. I think he is a super sneaky option

582
00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 1: as well as a big deep threat. I think maybe

583
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:02,359
Speaker 1: a warrior and could be that just like this passing

584
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 1: offense is already kind of you know, there's some stinkiness

585
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 1: to it that the stink can continue on and it's

586
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 1: just one less target. But like, Waddle's a guy that

587
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:13,919
Speaker 1: finds himself open. You've got him at fourteen. How did

588
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:15,720
Speaker 1: you not just get him as a wide receiver twelve?

589
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 1: Just do it, Just do the thing and get him

590
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 1: as a twelve. But let's let's hear optimism on Waddle

591
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:20,639
Speaker 1: right now.

592
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,639
Speaker 2: Well, we have a four game sample size including the

593
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 2: last game that we saw with Wattle and Tyry Kill,

594
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:28,480
Speaker 2: where Hill has played less than fifty percent of the

595
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:31,200
Speaker 2: snaps and the Dolphins offense, and in those games, Wattle

596
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 2: has averaged over eight targets per game seventy six receiving

597
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 2: yards per game. So, look, drafted jayl and Wattle. He's

598
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 2: on all my teams and I'm not going to bench

599
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:41,960
Speaker 2: him in the first game that Tyrey Hill's not playing. Again,

600
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:44,440
Speaker 2: this was never the idea behind the play that Hill

601
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 2: would suffer an injury like he did. Again, there's always

602
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 2: a chance that I thought, Okay, maybe Terry Kill does

603
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:52,280
Speaker 2: get traded and then you get Wattle with like this

604
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 2: opportunity to be the wide receiver one, and now we're

605
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 2: getting that opportunity here with with Hill's injury, So I

606
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:01,640
Speaker 2: think you gotta start. I mean, it's gonna be disappointing

607
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 2: if it's not the exact boom game that we expected,

608
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 2: maybe in his first outing. It's the Carolina Panthers, who

609
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 2: are a team that we know a lot of teams

610
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,399
Speaker 2: mostly attacked through the ground game and don't necessarily need

611
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 2: to throw the ball over. But this is just a

612
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,879
Speaker 2: bad defense overall, top to bottom. It's not a matchup

613
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:20,239
Speaker 2: to be feared in any capacity. And Wattle has been

614
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:22,880
Speaker 2: pretty good this year. He's actually PF's twentieth highest graded

615
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 2: wide receiver this season through four games. Hasn't had the

616
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 2: massive volume numbers, but it's been efficient, and you're expecting

617
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:30,920
Speaker 2: the volume to uptick without Terry killing the lineup. And

618
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:32,919
Speaker 2: I think Wash when you mentioned like you felt good

619
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,399
Speaker 2: about me doing well this week in the rankings, I

620
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 2: think it was a subtle nod at Hey, the Jalen

621
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:40,960
Speaker 2: Wattle call. You gotta be above consensus on Jayla Wattle

622
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 2: because he's gonna deliver a smash week.

623
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was just a feeling that grew in me,

624
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 1: that's all.

625
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:46,480
Speaker 3: That it was.

626
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 1: I didn't even like have any logic to it. There

627
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 1: you go, it might be all about Wattle. One more

628
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 1: in this range. Kobe Meyers ECR twenty one this week,

629
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:55,320
Speaker 1: ericson you got him at twenty three, serret a little

630
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:56,960
Speaker 1: bit lower than consensus. So this is one of the

631
00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 1: situations where you guys are on opposite ends. FITZI, you

632
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 1: got them quite a bit higher. You've got him at sixteen.

633
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 1: That's actually the ECR Michael Pittman range. So FITZI, why

634
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 1: don't you spit some positive and maybe Erson's got a

635
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 1: little bit of negative?

636
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean Jacoby Myers had kind of a quiet

637
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 4: game last week. Four catches, thirty yards, but he had

638
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 4: a team high seven targets in a game where Gino

639
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 4: Smith only attempted twenty one passes for the Raiders. So

640
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 4: Myers has a twenty six point eight percent target share

641
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 4: on the season, ranks twenty fifth in the league in

642
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 4: air yards and sixth in the league in yards after

643
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Speaker 4: the catch, so that that's a pretty nice combination. And

644
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 4: I don't hate the matchup against the Colts, who have

645
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 4: allowed the second most receptions and the fifth most receiving

646
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 4: yards to wide receivers this season.

647
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Erckson, the Colts cornerbacks definitely, PFF grades are relatively

648
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 1: bad kind of across the board. So if they get

649
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 1: back to you know, air rating a little bit with

650
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 1: the Raiders, Jacoby Myers is going to get some targets.

651
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 1: You're a little bit more pessimistic though you got him

652
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 1: in twenty three.

653
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 2: I did move him up a few spots. Thought more

654
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 2: about the Colts and their defense, how they don't have

655
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Speaker 2: Keny Moore, who was there best cornerback, and he was

656
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 2: a guy that was manning the slot. Well, that's where

657
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 2: Jacoby Myers runs. The majority of his routes is from

658
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 2: the slot. So I think that this is a bounce

659
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 2: back game for Jacoby Myers and he's in this tier

660
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:13,320
Speaker 2: of receiver where it's him versus how many receivers can

661
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 2: I rank ahead of AJ Brown this week? And Jacoby

662
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,120
Speaker 2: Myers now falls into that category. So I'm now starting

663
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 2: Jacoby Myers over A J. Brown, is starting Chargers wide

664
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Speaker 2: receivers over AJ Brown just because Yeah, that's that's the

665
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 2: AJ Brown experience that we're all going through right now.

666
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Speaker 1: I'm glad you brought that up. We didn't really talk

667
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 1: about him at seventeen. Where do you have him ranked?

668
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 1: AJ Brown?

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00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:36,240
Speaker 2: I have him at twenty three, and I think that

670
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 2: if you can make a compelling case to start somebody

671
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:41,960
Speaker 2: over him, I would. He's not. It's not to extent

672
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 2: where I think you should just pick someone off off

673
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 2: the waiver wire and start that player over a J.

674
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 2: Brown just because he does have a projection every week. No, no,

675
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 2: Trey Tucker, not doing Trey Tucker over AJ Brown type

676
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:59,240
Speaker 2: of analysis. But again like Jameson Williams of J. J. Brown. Yeah, sure,

677
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 2: just because I think we can all agree that a J.

678
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 2: Brown steiling is not high in this matchup or in

679
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 2: this offense.

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Speaker 1: Fitzigu, where do you have a J. Brown? Just real quick?

681
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 4: I've got him a wide receiver fourteen, but I'm gonna

682
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 4: have to move him down. I mean, Pat Patrick's aertan

683
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 4: and just like yeah, the total reluctance of the Eagles

684
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 4: to like throw the ball when they're not down multiple scores,

685
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 4: I don't get it. Like the Eagles man four and

686
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 4: oh and flying high, but I think they've been out

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00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 4: gained in all four of their games so far. Like

688
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 4: the passing game they've They've got to get it going,

689
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 4: because like there's just no indication that they are going

690
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 4: to be able to I don't know. I guess they

691
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 4: did play from behind against the Rams, but you know,

692
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 4: it took a miracle with the blocked kick at the

693
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 4: end of that game to save them. But man, like

694
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 4: the Eagles passing offense is just bleak right now.

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Speaker 1: There's some dude out there that like somehow got Chase

696
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 1: Brown in neighbors and they just were like celebrating in

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Speaker 1: shout out to that guy. Let us know who you are.

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Speaker 1: Wide receiver threes, gentlemen, that's where Lad McConkie comes in.

736
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 1: He comes in at twenty five, followed by Jamison Williams,

737
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 1: DeVante Smith, Wandel Robinson, Jordan Addison, Stefan Diggs, Juwan Jennings.

738
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Speaker 1: Though I think he will come off, because I don't

739
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 1: think he's gonna play at thirty one, t Higgins, Khalil Shakir,

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00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:48,959
Speaker 1: Chris Godwin, Kean Coleman, and Trey Tucker. Gentlemen, we got

741
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 1: to talk about Wandel Robinson, the new number one in

742
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 1: New York. Is that a good thing? ECR twenty eight fifty.

743
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 1: You've got him at thirty two, Ericson, you've got him

744
00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 1: at twenty nine. We got Jackson Dart running the off.

745
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 1: Maybe Slayton gets a bump up. I don't know, but

746
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 1: Wandale has He's been able to be a target monster,

747
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:08,759
Speaker 1: and now he is the guy on this team. Is

748
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 1: it worth anything? Ericson, let's start with you wide receiver

749
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:14,239
Speaker 1: twenty nine. You're just about it consensus, But you guys

750
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 1: are both still just a tiny bit lower. You're not

751
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 1: stoked about Wandell.

752
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:21,320
Speaker 2: I mean, he's a top three receiver attached to a

753
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:24,320
Speaker 2: rookie quarterback. I think that you can't just copy and

754
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 2: paste well what we thought when the League Nambers would

755
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 2: do you do that to Wandelle Robinson. I think that

756
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 2: the talent levels are completely different. Now that's not to

757
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:34,719
Speaker 2: say that Wando can't, you know, suck up a lot

758
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 2: of volume in this offense from Jackson Dart. I think

759
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 2: it's definitely the case. We saw it last year with

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00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:40,400
Speaker 2: Wandell Robinson. He saw a lot of targets in the

761
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 2: games that League Nambers missed last year. But so to

762
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 2: Darius Slayton. So I don't know that we necessarily need

763
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 2: to hone in on it's just going to be Dart

764
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 2: to Wandell Robinson this entire matchup. But it is a

765
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 2: game where you're expecting to at least be close and

766
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 2: not a scenario where the Giants getting blown out or

767
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,479
Speaker 2: blowing out the Saints. It's more of back and forth.

768
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:00,760
Speaker 2: So I think that they passed volumes be pretty steady

769
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 2: throughout the contest, and I think that he's a solid

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00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:03,279
Speaker 2: start this week.

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00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:05,800
Speaker 1: I think he's even better in a full PPR and

772
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 1: Jackson Dart moves around so much in the offense. I

773
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 1: think Wandell's a guy that is going to be able

774
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:11,840
Speaker 1: to fight. I think they're gonna use Slayton in some

775
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 1: of that deeper stuff and Wandale's going to be a

776
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 1: safety net. So I actually like him a bit more. FITZI,

777
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:18,719
Speaker 1: you're gonna get inundated with Wandell questions this week. I

778
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 1: have no doubt about it as the new number one here,

779
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 1: but your thirty two rank, I don't know. To me,

780
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 1: that kind of says like you just are very disinterested.

781
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:28,360
Speaker 1: You'd rather play higher up, So you're pretty disinterested in

782
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 1: him in the preseason as well. Now he's the number one,

783
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:33,359
Speaker 1: but there still isn't a lot of like love for him.

784
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean there was that kind of surprise early

785
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:39,319
Speaker 4: in the season with his usage with Russell Wilson, where

786
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 4: he was running much deeper routes. I mean, last year

787
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,760
Speaker 4: Wandell Robinson's averaged up the target was four point eight yards.

788
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:48,719
Speaker 4: This year it's a ten yards, which is really unexpected.

789
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 4: I don't know if it's going to stay that way.

790
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 4: I think they might need him to go back to

791
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 4: being that short area wide receiver, in which case, you know,

792
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 4: get ready for more of the usual wandel Robinson six

793
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:03,920
Speaker 4: for thirty three stat lines, which don't really help that much.

794
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 4: I mean, they'll they'll keep you afloat in a PPR league,

795
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 4: but you know, I mean last year this guy had

796
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 4: what ninety three catches for six hundred and ninety nine

797
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,839
Speaker 4: yards and there just wasn't a lot of impact there.

798
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:22,799
Speaker 4: So I kind of worry we're going to go back

799
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 4: to that sort of usage with Wandell Robinson. I think

800
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:28,360
Speaker 4: the passing numbers for Jackson Dart are going to be

801
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 4: probably pretty bleak, and so I just can't get super

802
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:35,400
Speaker 4: excited about him. And yet at the same time, I

803
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 4: think you're probably starting Wandell Robinson if you have him,

804
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 4: considering all the buys and the injuries.

805
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:43,320
Speaker 1: And I got a couple shares of him. Jordan Addison.

806
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:45,760
Speaker 1: This is a situation where you guys are both lower,

807
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:47,720
Speaker 1: but you guys seem to be on a much bigger

808
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:51,319
Speaker 1: spectrum of him. He is ECR twenty nine for this week,

809
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 1: he's going up against Cleveland tougher defense. Fits You've got

810
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:55,880
Speaker 1: him at thirty one. Ericson, you got him at forty,

811
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:59,440
Speaker 1: so kind of bearing him down there. He really didn't

812
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:01,839
Speaker 1: do much until the big giant play. That's what really

813
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:05,439
Speaker 1: brought him into the offense. Wentz definitely likes that shorter

814
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:07,360
Speaker 1: inside stuff. I've talked about it a bunch with like

815
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:09,839
Speaker 1: the tight ends. Addison can kind of play that role,

816
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 1: but Jefferson is playing a lot more of it. But Ericson,

817
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 1: you got him at forty, so we're in like no

818
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:17,920
Speaker 1: start territory. Very disinterested in Addison. Let's hear your breakdown.

819
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:20,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, because without the eighty one yard catch, he went

820
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 2: three for thirty three last week with Carson Wentz as

821
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 2: the quarterback. I don't like the Is this game going

822
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 2: to be a shootout between Dylan Gabriel and Carson Wentz

823
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:29,760
Speaker 2: in London?

824
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 4: No?

825
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 2: I really don't think so. So I don't think this

826
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:35,799
Speaker 2: is going to be a fun game where we can

827
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 2: start ancillary pieces because the game is popping off, we're

828
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 2: seeing points. I think the total is thirty five and

829
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:44,879
Speaker 2: a half now, the lowest on the weak by far. Again,

830
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,759
Speaker 2: we had preseason games with higher totals than thirty five

831
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:51,759
Speaker 2: and a half points is Vikings and Browns. So I

832
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:53,240
Speaker 2: think this game is just going to be a slog

833
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 2: on both sides potentially, And I'm trying to avoid starting

834
00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:59,959
Speaker 2: players in this game if I can, and that gluse Adson.

835
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:03,279
Speaker 1: Cueue up my Judkins rushing tempt That again fits the

836
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 1: all right, Fitz, what do you think about Addison? You're

837
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:06,920
Speaker 1: you're a little bit closer to the consensus. He's a

838
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 1: tough start, but you have him one spot higher than

839
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:10,239
Speaker 1: one Dell as well.

840
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 4: The total's really down at thirty five and a half. Huh,

841
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 4: that's like in Iowa Wisconsin game.

842
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 2: I think it's I mean, last I checked, I think

843
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 2: it's somewhere in that range. But that was before they

844
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 2: announced Gabriel as a starter, so I'm sure that'd be

845
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 2: unders have been a heavy hitting at Yeah.

846
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 4: I so, I know Addison is the second banana behind

847
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 4: Justin Jefferson. I know Carson Wentz doesn't inspire great confidence

848
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:36,280
Speaker 4: in the Minnesota passing game. But Addison is a terrific

849
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:39,719
Speaker 4: player who's usage in his first game back from suspension

850
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 4: was pretty reassuring. Like I didn't know how much he

851
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 4: was going to play last week. He played ninety six

852
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:49,400
Speaker 4: percent of the offensive snaps, got eight targets, So that

853
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:51,839
Speaker 4: was you know, and I know the eighty one yard

854
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 4: catch kind of made his day.

855
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 2: But for that kind of.

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00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 4: Usage with a pretty good player, And I think, even

857
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 4: though it hasn't really been the case, I do think

858
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:01,839
Speaker 4: the Brons are going to be kind of a pass

859
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:05,399
Speaker 4: funnel because they're just really hard to run against. So yeah,

860
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 4: I think Addison's kind of been starter territory this week.

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00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 1: Chris Godwin, I think, well, his targets defied where he

862
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:15,800
Speaker 1: was ranked. Unfortunately he couldn't catch any of them. That

863
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 1: was a discussion that FITZI and I had last week.

864
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 1: He is ECR thirty four this week. You guys are

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00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 1: on a little bit of split. FITZI, you are on

866
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:28,320
Speaker 1: the negative, Rickson's a little bit on the positive. What's

867
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 1: got you on the negative? It's clearly not the target share,

868
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 1: but it definitely was, you know, maybe the legs And

869
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:35,840
Speaker 1: I think there's some quarterback playing discussion here, so you

870
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 1: barely have Yeah, I mean you have Chris Godwin under Jordanadison,

871
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 1: you have him under Wan Dale. He had the ten

872
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 1: targets but couldn't pull him down. So what's your concerns

873
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 1: with Chris Godwin this week?

874
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 4: Mainly matchup Seattle's defenses number one in DVOA. They have

875
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:52,320
Speaker 4: one of the best defensive backfields in the league and

876
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:55,360
Speaker 4: they've given up the second fewest receiving yards to opposing

877
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:59,399
Speaker 4: wide receivers. But again, Godwin kind of like Addison, where

878
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:03,359
Speaker 4: the usage was better than I expected in his first

879
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:07,720
Speaker 4: game back, Like eighty six percent snapchare for Godwin, ten targets,

880
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:10,880
Speaker 4: one hundred and forty six air yards, which was kind

881
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 4: of a shocker in his first game back from that

882
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:17,479
Speaker 4: gruesome ankle injury last year only three catches for twenty

883
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 4: six yards. But yeah, the usage was encouraging. With Mike

884
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:24,880
Speaker 4: Evans out and maybe Bucky Irving out too, like, Godwin

885
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 4: should be pretty heavily involved again and I will be

886
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 4: moving him up if Bucky Irving has ruled out Erickson.

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00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 1: Is the usage from last week the reason we should

888
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:34,920
Speaker 1: have more optimism on Godwin.

889
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:37,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was at number three and expected fantasy points

890
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 2: among all wide receivers last week, So for him to

891
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:43,880
Speaker 2: finish with under what under thirty receiving yards was very,

892
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 2: very underwhelming. But this is the stuff that we look

893
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:49,759
Speaker 2: at one week and identify as BI low players. The

894
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 2: following week, he checked off all those types of boxes,

895
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 2: and you expect that, hey, maybe a little rusty coming

896
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:57,759
Speaker 2: in his first game. You know, missed all of the preseason,

897
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:01,239
Speaker 2: wasn't active, So I think that it's okay to look

898
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 2: at Hey, it wasn't necessarily squeezing the football, not making

899
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 2: great plays, but a lot of that was against when

900
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 2: quinnla Mitchell was covering him, Cooper Degene was covering, like

901
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 2: these really talented second year players were going to match

902
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 2: him one on one with Chris Godwin, and you know,

903
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 2: sometimes he's not going to win those types of battles.

904
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 2: So I believe in Baker Mayfield, who creates some magic.

905
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 2: Chris Godwin is going to be heavily involved. Like we

906
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:21,840
Speaker 2: saw last week. I think they can be better improve

907
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:24,840
Speaker 2: in this next week, back from his injury and with

908
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:27,279
Speaker 2: a full playing time role. So that for those reasons,

909
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 2: that's why I'm a little bit more optimistic about Chris Godwin.

910
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 1: That's your top thirty six that goes through the numbers,

911
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:34,839
Speaker 1: but we always take a look. Who's a wide receiver

912
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 1: that is not in the top thirty six that should

913
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:40,320
Speaker 1: be FITSI we mentioned this guy's name a little bit earlier,

914
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:42,720
Speaker 1: but this is your highlighted deeper play.

915
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 4: This week, Malik Washington. He is going to have an

916
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 4: enhanced role with Tyreek Hill out, and maybe not just

917
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 4: in the passing game. Like Malik Washington has eight rushing

918
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 4: attempts this season. And this is a dude who had

919
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 4: one hundred and ten catches for over fourteen hundred yards

920
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 4: in his final college season Virginia. Malik Washington can play Erickson.

921
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 1: You're picking a guy that literally just dropped the ball

922
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:07,920
Speaker 1: every time it was thrown to him, and he's got

923
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:11,280
Speaker 1: a bomby thirty six point five over total is actually

924
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:14,280
Speaker 1: the number here. So who's your post thirty six wide receiver.

925
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 2: So he was in my top thirty six before Dylan

926
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 2: Gabriel was announced as the star, so I did move

927
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 2: him down a couple spots. I do think that he'll

928
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 2: be somewhere when I finally settle in on the rankings.

929
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 2: Probably in that wide receiver thirty six fringe, it's Jerry Judy.

930
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 2: And it's really just based on Cedric Tillman not playing,

931
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:34,880
Speaker 2: because when Cedric till miss games last year, Jerry Judy's

932
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 2: numbers doubled. Essentially, they were so much better than they

933
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 2: were when Cedric Tillman was playing, because every time Tillman plays,

934
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 2: he produces Jerry Judy like that has been a constant

935
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:47,880
Speaker 2: since last year. Jerry Judy, I think that we all

936
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 2: agree he's kind of like a fake Alpha in every way.

937
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:54,440
Speaker 2: He usually drops a lot of the opportunities, but he

938
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 2: does get a lot of volume. Still, if the Browns

939
00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:59,880
Speaker 2: are scheming up plays for their rookie receiver or the

940
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 2: rookie quarterback, what do we see a lot with rookie quarterbacks.

941
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 2: Is they hone in on their number one guy, like

942
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:05,879
Speaker 2: they don't necessarily go through all their reads. If Jerry

943
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 2: Judy is a number one read on a lot of

944
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 2: these plays, well then he's going to get volume in

945
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 2: this spot. So he's wide receiver twenty and expect the

946
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:14,320
Speaker 2: fantasy points per game. And I don't know why, but

947
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:16,719
Speaker 2: the coaching staff still loves him. Know after the game

948
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 2: the head coach is still saying, Jerry Judy, he's our guy,

949
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:21,839
Speaker 2: He's our best wide receiver. So whether that's because Jerry

950
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 2: Judy's got dirt on him or not, I'm not exactly sure,

951
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 2: but the fact that there are still some positives to

952
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 2: look at when it comes to Judy in this particular matchup,

953
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 2: even against the Vikings. And again, he's not a ceiling play.

954
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 2: He is a floor play where I think that he

955
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 2: will see least enough volume to probably maybe crack in

956
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 2: the top thirty six, but probably not be better than

957
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 2: like a top thirty receiver when the dust settles.

958
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:47,080
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959
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