Speaker 1: Are you leaving?
Speaker 2: I you wanna way back home? Either way, we want
Speaker 2: to be there. Doesn't matter how.
Speaker 3: Much baggage you claim and give us time and a
Speaker 3: termino and gay.
Speaker 2: We want to send you off in style. Do you
Speaker 2: wanna welcome you back home?
Speaker 1: Tell us all about it?
Speaker 2: We scared her? Was it fine?
Speaker 1: Mal porn?
Speaker 3: Do you need to ride? Do you need to ride?
Speaker 1: Do you need to ride?
Speaker 2: Do you need to ride? Do you need to ride?
Speaker 1: Do you need to ride? Ride with Karen and Chris
Speaker 1: welcome to Do you need a ride? This is Chris Fairbanks.
Speaker 3: And this is Karen Kilgareff.
Speaker 1: Hello, my friend Karen.
Speaker 2: Hello Chris.
Speaker 3: I just the second as you started talking, took a
Speaker 3: sip of my drink, which is my least favorite sound
Speaker 3: to hear when I'm listening to people on podcasts or
Speaker 3: the YouTube horoscope hero card reader who always drinks her tea.
Speaker 3: I literally want to scream and run out of the room.
Speaker 3: And I just did it myself.
Speaker 1: It's okay.
Speaker 4: We have to be scared of accidentally smr that we're
Speaker 4: doing on here, because let us not forget of the
Speaker 4: muffin episode where or donuts. We had a whole box
Speaker 4: of donuts and a lot of hate mail. Youre smacking.
Speaker 3: We've eaten and we've drinken Starbucks on the mic so
Speaker 3: many times when we're in the car, as if nothing
Speaker 3: mattered in the world. This was pre pandemic.
Speaker 4: Just smacking and slurping like we're doing fully work for
Speaker 4: a makeout scene in a teen horror.
Speaker 2: And a teen eating disorder.
Speaker 4: After school special, Very special, After school Special.
Speaker 3: Very special. Rice Crispies advertised. I was eating the rice
Speaker 3: Rice Crispy bar, Remember that one. That's what made that
Speaker 3: one guy rolling.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because there's the crunching and the snapping and the
Speaker 4: cracklings as well, it's the slurping. We it's funny. I
Speaker 4: realized this weekend. I had a couple fun gigs where
Speaker 4: there was a car scent and a car like a
Speaker 4: driver a professional where they're holding up my name. I'm
Speaker 4: not bragging. It's just very rare that I'm not ubering.
Speaker 4: And I realize it's funny because we have a podcast
Speaker 4: where we talk while driving. That is really something I've discovered.
Speaker 4: I do not want out of a driver from here
Speaker 4: on out. I want a someone that might be it's
Speaker 4: just a cover for them being a hit man. I
Speaker 4: want a silent, stoic, brooding, handsome. I don't know why
Speaker 4: they have to be a hand I'm just thinking about
Speaker 4: Ryan Gosling.
Speaker 2: Baby.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, I because I had two drivers, one this
Speaker 4: this woman in Cleveland. She was really sweet and then
Speaker 4: just started talking about Obama and that his middle names Hussein.
Speaker 4: And then the next driver, also a kind man, until
Speaker 4: we started talking about COVID and he was saying it
Speaker 4: was not a He'd done his own research, it's not
Speaker 4: a it's not a virus. I'm just like, can we
Speaker 4: just And I got mad, I'd like yelled at them
Speaker 4: and felt bad.
Speaker 1: It became a yelling thing.
Speaker 3: Well it's supposed to become a yelling thing because both
Speaker 3: of those times they were bringing up topics that Fox
Speaker 3: News has taught them. Here's how you can fight with liberals.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, they Essentially, I just think that not everyone
Speaker 4: should have the Internet.
Speaker 1: That's all. That's all. I just want it.
Speaker 3: Well, how about the fact that you can do your
Speaker 3: own research until the end of time, but you're you've
Speaker 3: never got your doctorate, Like take your research and test
Speaker 3: it out at the local medical school that you can't
Speaker 3: get into. Well, how about that?
Speaker 4: According to this second driver. A lot of the scientists
Speaker 4: that he looks up to have been murdered because they know,
Speaker 4: they know it's not a virus, they've been killed.
Speaker 3: Chris, did you walk up to anybody holding a white
Speaker 3: piece of paper and your name wasn't even on It
Speaker 3: was just a crazy person you got into the car.
Speaker 4: He was dressed nice, there was no leaves in his hair,
Speaker 4: he didn't have a wild eye. He was a professional
Speaker 4: driver with a lot of personal opinions. And I'm just
Speaker 4: glad it's over from now.
Speaker 1: It sucks.
Speaker 3: It's hard enough. Yeah, it's bad enough when they have
Speaker 3: bad COLOGNEA.
Speaker 2: For that.
Speaker 3: Wait, remember the time there was a time where there
Speaker 3: was a driver that came and picked me up. God,
Speaker 3: I wish I could remember anyway, because this was a
Speaker 3: while ago, and he talked the whole time. I had
Speaker 3: to listen to some of his original music, Oh on on,
Speaker 3: and then I as I was wont to do in
Speaker 3: like twenty fifteen or whenever it was tweeted about it,
Speaker 3: like as it was happening where I was, like, so
Speaker 3: if I end up in a ditch, I just wanted
Speaker 3: to tell people or whatever. He responded to the tweet
Speaker 3: oh no, when I got off the plane on the
Speaker 3: other end.
Speaker 4: Of whereas from that would have been way worse.
Speaker 2: That would have been way worse.
Speaker 3: But yeah, it was really that was very upsetting where
Speaker 3: I was just like, oh, oh no, you and you
Speaker 3: follow me on Twitter.
Speaker 2: That's insane.
Speaker 1: I'm sure I know what you're getting at.
Speaker 4: I don't think these two people listen to our podcast,
Speaker 4: but maybe maybe they. But I mean what I say,
Speaker 4: and I'm not going back on my uh snapping at them.
Speaker 3: You don't have to, although you are giving them what
Speaker 3: they want by snapping at them, but it's they also
Speaker 3: have you trapped, and they're telling you. Basically they're saying,
Speaker 3: I will believe anything that passes my face.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it just made it. It made it complicated because
Speaker 4: I'm not kidding. They were both sweet people, right, you know,
Speaker 4: the people can be both. But speaking of sweet people, God,
Speaker 4: I'm getting real good at these intro segues.
Speaker 3: Karen says, who your driver? Me right now to myself,
Speaker 3: just saying the same word twice.
Speaker 2: It's just hitting.
Speaker 1: It's Karen, do you want to?
Speaker 3: She plays clubs and colleges all over this fine country that,
Speaker 3: thank god, is no longer being led by a person
Speaker 3: whose middle name also sounds a little bit ethnic. God forbid,
Speaker 3: Ladies and gentlemen, It's Mary Holland.
Speaker 1: Hi, Hi'm Mary.
Speaker 2: Hi Wow, yay, I'm so excited to be here.
Speaker 1: In this car. Thank you. Yes, it's it's a nice car, right.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, Karen, there's a yield sign. If you could
Speaker 4: just play along, Mary, we do a lot.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: No, Yeah, it's fun.
Speaker 5: It's really fun all the different signs, and it's so
Speaker 5: fun when you drive reading Yeah, reading signs, it's so fun.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the best part.
Speaker 1: Most of our podcast was reading signs aloud.
Speaker 4: People loved it, and we get back to it soon soon.
Speaker 5: I'm very impressed that you could uh maintain. Did you
Speaker 5: ever find that the driving was uh, it was hard
Speaker 5: to maintain, like a through line of thought or conversation.
Speaker 1: I find it so.
Speaker 2: Hard to drive and talk.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I found it very hard.
Speaker 4: And we discovered early on that the Karen's able to
Speaker 4: multitask in that way.
Speaker 1: And I think.
Speaker 4: In my experience a lot of women in my life
Speaker 4: were able to do a bunch of things at once.
Speaker 4: If I try and talk and drive at the same time,
Speaker 4: I just felt like I was going to make us
Speaker 4: crash and Karen doesn't have that's god.
Speaker 6: Well.
Speaker 3: Also, Chris was for a long time our soundman and
Speaker 3: we were completely guessing at how to run the zoom
Speaker 3: recorder and get good sound. So there was there were
Speaker 3: many episodes that you can go back and listen to
Speaker 3: where Chris loses faith kind of like around usually the
Speaker 3: twenty five minute mark. That great, usually on the heels
Speaker 3: of something really funny or great happening with our guests,
Speaker 3: and then Chris was positive it wasn't recording and and
Speaker 3: then he.
Speaker 2: Would that it was.
Speaker 3: It was a lot of responsibility, yeah, for just everyone
Speaker 3: in the car, oh, for.
Speaker 2: Everyone, Yes, and the pressures on Yeah.
Speaker 4: That the episode that we always bring up is that
Speaker 4: the first time we had tig on who's married to Stephanie?
Speaker 4: Or yes, yes, true, I want to say troop partner
Speaker 4: is the word true?
Speaker 5: Yeah, my troop my troop mate is what we like
Speaker 5: to refer to troops.
Speaker 1: With an E at the end, with a new lot
Speaker 1: over it.
Speaker 3: Wild Horses one of the great improv groups. And also, wait,
Speaker 3: did you guys do a podcast or just a live show?
Speaker 2: We did do a podcast. We we recorded, We did.
Speaker 5: Do some episodes in a studio and then recorded some
Speaker 5: live shows as well. So, uh, there are podcast versions?
Speaker 4: Was the podcast great? Was the podcast non live version?
Speaker 1: Scenes? Or were you just having conversations? We did do scenes.
Speaker 1: We did do improv season.
Speaker 5: Oh yes, I got to cap it with a nice
Speaker 5: improv scene because you got to.
Speaker 2: That's how you work through you know what you just
Speaker 2: talked about and how you process it creatively.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you know what I mean, like you're all
Speaker 1: sharing one brain.
Speaker 2: Yes, wait, what happened in the in the car? I
Speaker 2: wo tig Oh it.
Speaker 4: Was our most emotional episode. Oh okay, Oh we all cried.
Speaker 4: We talked about death. We uh described her wedding with
Speaker 4: Stephanie and people locking off the freeway in Mississippi when
Speaker 4: they were concerned about two women getting married.
Speaker 1: It was just really important everything we talked. It was
Speaker 1: such a good episode.
Speaker 4: I'm never gonna let it go. And I realized halfway
Speaker 4: through that something was wrong. I think the card was
Speaker 4: maybe sticking out too much. It recorded something, but it
Speaker 4: sounded under water. Admitting admitting now to Karen that I
Speaker 4: knew something.
Speaker 1: What's up?
Speaker 2: No, what are you supposed to do?
Speaker 1: Though?
Speaker 2: We're like half an hour in?
Speaker 1: How do you do.
Speaker 3: What do you do?
Speaker 1: I have a fun game.
Speaker 4: Let's go back thirty minutes and see which one of
Speaker 4: us can remember what we already talked about as a game.
Speaker 1: It's a fun game.
Speaker 2: Not that fun of a game.
Speaker 3: Yeah, God, if you're being honest, it's actually not the
Speaker 3: fun of games.
Speaker 2: Have fun of a game.
Speaker 4: Mary, I've been watching You're in a lot of very
Speaker 4: funny movie. I'm a comic, but I don't watch a
Speaker 4: lot of comedic stuff. I watch a lot of crime
Speaker 4: and dramas, action movies for dads from the eighties, but
Speaker 4: all the you stole most scenes in Robbie. If people
Speaker 4: haven't seen Robbie, it's a Comedy Central joint with Rory Scovell.
Speaker 4: Mary's so funny in that Golden Arm, the arm wrestling
Speaker 4: movie I love so much, Oh my god, and I
Speaker 4: loved it, and uh yeah this is before I'm like,
Speaker 4: who is that? She's great and everything? And then that
Speaker 4: the Holiday movie. Uh what what that's called? Happyest The
Speaker 4: happiest of seasons? I've got happiest of seasons.
Speaker 3: But you know which you actually you're not merry, You're
Speaker 3: not just in but you co wrote it with Cleo Deval,
Speaker 3: who I leave directed.
Speaker 4: It is directed it Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're really funny
Speaker 4: that the end scene. Everyone should just watch the things
Speaker 4: I mentioned. Just go to Mary's IMDb. This is usually
Speaker 4: a closing statement.
Speaker 5: Take any of it, any anything, Just scroll and anything.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and slam your finger down on your screen like
Speaker 4: you're spinning a globe on it.
Speaker 1: That's Mystery vacation.
Speaker 5: Click on the Voodoo Xerox printer and you'll listen a treat. Great,
Speaker 5: it's a wonderful skep for funny or die about a
Speaker 5: printer that comes to life. So it's really anything is
Speaker 5: to choose your an adventure and you're gonna have a
Speaker 5: great time.
Speaker 3: Stands behind every single thing that is listed on her
Speaker 3: m Yeah.
Speaker 4: Is there anything on that list that you you want
Speaker 4: people to steer away from? Oh my gosh, what's what's
Speaker 4: the worst thing you've ever done.
Speaker 2: In entertainment?
Speaker 3: Or moralists?
Speaker 1: Oh? Morally?
Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, Oh how much time let's get into it?
Speaker 1: List all your sins?
Speaker 2: List how your sins?
Speaker 5: I oh man, I'm trying to think if there's oh, well,
Speaker 5: you know what that act that is very funny you
Speaker 5: bring that up because the very first thing I ever
Speaker 5: shot in my whole life. Was the worst thing I've
Speaker 5: ever done in my whole life. And there's a very
Speaker 5: funny story around it. The worst acting I've ever done
Speaker 5: in my life. I've done so many more worse things,
Speaker 5: like in the real life, but it was for It
Speaker 5: was when I first moved to LA and USC. You know,
Speaker 5: they have the their film department and everything, and there's
Speaker 5: a I don't know if they still do this, but
Speaker 5: at the time, part of the program there in the
Speaker 5: director program is they would an assignment from their class
Speaker 5: would be to reshoot a famous scene from cinema history,
Speaker 5: so like the breakup scene from Goodwill Hunting or.
Speaker 1: You know, yeah, that's the only thing I can think of. No,
Speaker 1: that's one that's used all the time. It's used all
Speaker 1: the time.
Speaker 5: But and the director had to like cast it and
Speaker 5: then re like shoot it the way they would. And
Speaker 5: so I got an audition on LA casting for us.
Speaker 5: They were reshooting a scene from Fried Green Tomatoes, and
Speaker 5: I was like, well, I got to do that, and so.
Speaker 2: I auditioned for it.
Speaker 5: I auditioned for both roles, and it was it's like,
Speaker 5: not just well, I guess this movie is very old
Speaker 5: at this point, I was gonna say, I don't want
Speaker 5: to spoil it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you don't know Tomatoes at this point, that's
Speaker 3: on you.
Speaker 5: That's on you, and that is on you. But it's
Speaker 5: the scene at the end of the movie. It basically
Speaker 5: is a death.
Speaker 1: Scene, and it's a story. You know, it's between these
Speaker 1: two women who.
Speaker 5: You know, have such a deep relationship with each other,
Speaker 5: and is a very dramatic scene.
Speaker 2: And I was like, I was fresh from theater school,
Speaker 2: so I was in my feelings.
Speaker 5: I was I was Oh, I was doing like emotional
Speaker 5: preparation and I was like doing movement work and all
Speaker 5: this all this stuff that I had learned.
Speaker 2: To do from theater school in preparation for this scene.
Speaker 5: So I auditioned and I got cast as the And
Speaker 5: now I can't remember the character's name. The not not
Speaker 5: maryor Louise Parker, but the Mary.
Speaker 3: It's also a three.
Speaker 2: Yes it's Mayor and not Mary Stuart Masters.
Speaker 1: Yes it is.
Speaker 5: Oh it is okay, great yees. So her character is
Speaker 5: who I got cast as. And on the day of
Speaker 5: shooting the scene, we shot all of the other actresses coverage.
Speaker 2: First. I didn't know anything about coverage or anything, and.
Speaker 5: I was just oh, I was given it every take
Speaker 5: I could have given it.
Speaker 2: I was just serving up just way too much emotion.
Speaker 5: And then and so by the time like it turned
Speaker 5: around and it was on me, I was completely exhausted
Speaker 5: and I was wrenching feelings from myself, which is so
Speaker 5: fun to watch. And uh, I like, oh my gosh.
Speaker 5: I worked myself up into a frenzy trying to like
Speaker 5: get there, you know. And then at one point we
Speaker 5: were like, uh, it was in between takes, and the
Speaker 5: boom operator leaned over to me and he was like,
Speaker 5: I just want to say that your performance is really beautiful.
Speaker 5: It's really amazing work and just really inspired by you.
Speaker 2: And I was like, oh my god, thank you.
Speaker 5: Like I was like, yes, yes, I'm so impactful as
Speaker 5: a performer. So that that short that she finished editing
Speaker 5: it and everything, and then she took us out to dinner,
Speaker 5: the director and she's she was like telling us about
Speaker 5: the shoot and she was like, oh, that shoe was
Speaker 5: such a nightmare. And we were both like, oh, really
Speaker 5: why and she was like, well, the boom operator was
Speaker 5: wasted and.
Speaker 1: He was being emotional because he was drunk. I love it.
Speaker 2: He was wasted.
Speaker 4: I just want to add to that and say I
Speaker 4: love you.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, wo is nice.
Speaker 2: That's so nice.
Speaker 5: But anyway, I feel like, I mean, the director and
Speaker 5: the other actors did a great job, but I was
Speaker 5: real rough stuff in there. So steer away from that
Speaker 5: if you come across it on Vimeo or wherever.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just or give it a thumbs up for effort,
Speaker 2: because you know that's the thing about acting.
Speaker 3: It's like, sure, being convincing is one thing, but what
Speaker 3: about just plain old effort.
Speaker 7: Yeah, exactly, effortful performance, yes, and we don't we don't
Speaker 7: recognize that enough, Like there's there's actually not enough awards
Speaker 7: for effort, and there really should be.
Speaker 2: If you're breaking a sweat.
Speaker 1: Yeah I was sweating.
Speaker 5: I was crapping my pants trying to trying to cry.
Speaker 2: So it was great.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's very the difference between like because I studied
Speaker 3: theater in college when I went for the year and
Speaker 3: a half before I got kicked out for not going
Speaker 3: to any other class. But I really like live performance. Yeah,
Speaker 3: coming to LA and just kind of being like, oh,
Speaker 3: I'll go on some auditions having no experience or any
Speaker 3: I never took a cold reading class. I never took
Speaker 3: a scene class. I never took a like acting for
Speaker 3: TV class. I new fucking clue about anything, and it
Speaker 3: took me so long to realize. It's like, I think
Speaker 3: I like the live immediate experience of you know, either
Speaker 3: your failing or you're succeeding, and it's all happening right there.
Speaker 3: I really don't like acting at all, and I tried
Speaker 3: to do it for so long, and it's like, I
Speaker 3: don't know if I'm even good and I definitely don't
Speaker 3: like it, which would affect whether or not I'm good. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's the whole thing is just a bit of a
Speaker 3: like it's so strange too. It took me, you know,
Speaker 3: maybe fifteen years to be like, yeah, I don't know
Speaker 3: if I actually even like that. I just signed up
Speaker 3: for it kind of wow.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's to hear you say.
Speaker 4: Because you're good in things, Karen, are you someone maybe
Speaker 4: you're like me where you're like, I don't enjoy it
Speaker 4: while it's happening. I enjoy it when it's done, like,
Speaker 4: but during its work, it's like not, it's stressful and
Speaker 4: it's work and it's exhausted.
Speaker 3: And it's also like I just think that you know
Speaker 3: the reason, like some people are good at it is
Speaker 3: because they are built to go. Of course you want
Speaker 3: to watch me do this, right, But I have like
Speaker 3: about seven problems just to get to the point where
Speaker 3: I'm like, well, I'm gonna do something. You know, I
Speaker 3: don't know, I don't think it's good and I certainly
Speaker 3: don't believe in it. But here, I'll do this thing
Speaker 3: you asked me to do. Yeah, it's like there's so
Speaker 3: many you know, when you watch a beautiful performance. To me,
Speaker 3: it took me forever to realize, like about eighty percent
Speaker 3: of it is the confidence of that person knowing you
Speaker 3: want to watch me do this, Like Brad Titt knows
Speaker 3: you want to look at his face no matter what
Speaker 3: he's doing with that fly fishing and a river runs.
Speaker 2: Dirt or whatever.
Speaker 3: He's like, you're gonna love this. Join you.
Speaker 1: Oh and he's right on the money, isn't it.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's so true.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: All third that yeah, got to I get and I'm someone.
Speaker 4: Yeah when I'm even no matter how much experience I get,
Speaker 4: the mantra in my head while I'm acting is do
Speaker 4: I belong here?
Speaker 1: I'm not sure I belong here.
Speaker 2: It's a it's a real min.
Speaker 3: It's like a I think it's a stand up comic thing,
Speaker 3: where like it serves us as comics to judge ourselves
Speaker 3: because you have to be ready for a worst case scenario.
Speaker 3: But I think it really doesn't serve you as a
Speaker 3: as an actor, as a camera actor to be like
Speaker 3: have that look in your eye of like, I don't
Speaker 3: think so that's what I always look like. It's just
Speaker 3: like I'm not buying it.
Speaker 2: I don't know why you, ma'am. You're in the middle
Speaker 2: of a line. Was that a lot of story?
Speaker 3: What I meant was, can here's your change?
Speaker 2: Sir?
Speaker 1: Oh okay, now that time I bought it?
Speaker 4: You're acting on camera. It's now a bad time to
Speaker 4: do crowd work.
Speaker 2: Could I get where's the boom operator? I just people
Speaker 2: around me? Where is he?
Speaker 5: It's so true you kind of have to self generate
Speaker 5: that the validation of like this is good or you
Speaker 5: almost have to shut off that part of your brain
Speaker 5: that is thinking about is this good or not?
Speaker 2: Because you can really.
Speaker 5: Go down a terrible, terrible spy, right and no one's
Speaker 5: going to give you that validation either, like, oh boy,
Speaker 5: no one's given it to you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what's hard.
Speaker 4: There's no one that stops after each take and says
Speaker 4: hey that or laughs, I need to. I'm addicted to
Speaker 4: hearing laughter saying really the only sign that I know
Speaker 4: of that things are going okay.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just remembered I was gonna.
Speaker 3: I was in a TV show and it was I
Speaker 3: felt horrible the whole time. I was in this weird
Speaker 3: panic where I was like, I just I won't be
Speaker 3: able to remember my lines. So then I just did
Speaker 3: it like it was I was mind fucking myself.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: But then there was one point where I was in
Speaker 3: this scene with this woman who was playing my sister,
Speaker 3: and they the director called cut, and she goes, well,
Speaker 3: she's not and she did this super fucking rude thing
Speaker 3: what basically like that didn't work because of what she
Speaker 3: just did. And then I got so angry. And the
Speaker 3: next take and it was this it was like a
Speaker 3: kind of a dramatic scene or whatever, and the take
Speaker 3: I made all these choices and it was all completely
Speaker 3: just I was filled with rage, and they were.
Speaker 2: Like cut, Oh my god, perfect.
Speaker 3: Care and that was amazing, and the DP like leans
Speaker 3: over and he's like that was really good, and I
Speaker 3: was like I want to fucking kill someone.
Speaker 2: I didn't give a shit about what was happening at all.
Speaker 3: It has nothing to do with anything. It was like
Speaker 3: that was the one of the first realizations of like, oh,
Speaker 3: I like I get it now, and I am not
Speaker 3: built for this. I'm not like I get it. There's
Speaker 3: really good actors are the ones that like show up
Speaker 3: and they're like, oh, yeah, I know how to manipulate
Speaker 3: myself to get there. Yeah essentially, yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: It also I mean that I remember doing a one
Speaker 5: act in college where you know how when you're in college, Oh,
Speaker 5: I have another funny thing to say.
Speaker 2: Well, I hope it's funny.
Speaker 1: We'll see yeah, you know, you'll be the judge of that.
Speaker 4: I'll lean over like a boom operator and let you know, okay, okay.
Speaker 5: You know in theater school, how you're like you're nineteen
Speaker 5: or something and you're being cast to play like eighty
Speaker 5: year old you know people, or like a nine year
Speaker 5: old like I played a nine year old in Grapes
Speaker 5: of Wrath as like a twenty year old woman, And
Speaker 5: that's like what that's theater school because there's a limited
Speaker 5: pool of people that we're casting from, you know. But
Speaker 5: I remember we were doing a one act and me
Speaker 5: and my best friend at the theater school. We're playing these
Speaker 5: two old women like and we just like existed on
Speaker 5: stage during the whole one act, and uh, I was
Speaker 5: like really like trying. I was like doing like an
Speaker 5: old woman character like and I was like this is
Speaker 5: really good. Like in my head, I was like, this
Speaker 5: is really good. And then I got a note from
Speaker 5: the director that was like he was like, you're you're
Speaker 5: you're mugging, You're doing all this weird stuff with your face.
Speaker 2: And then I was like, oh no.
Speaker 5: And then we did another rehearsal of it and my
Speaker 5: best friend I was I was like sewing or something,
Speaker 5: and my best friend said.
Speaker 2: Stop doing that.
Speaker 5: It was like a real moment between us, and it
Speaker 5: affected like I got so like what that The whole
Speaker 5: rest of the scene, I was like only thinking about that?
Speaker 2: Was that real?
Speaker 5: Was that?
Speaker 2: And then afterwards the director was like that was amazing,
Speaker 2: Like I started got me out of my head.
Speaker 5: But but on the on the note of playing younger
Speaker 5: or older when I also when I first moved to
Speaker 5: la and I had an agent and they called me
Speaker 5: and they said, hey, I'm just you know, we're about
Speaker 5: to start sending you out what. I just want to
Speaker 5: know your age range, like, what do you think you
Speaker 5: could play? And I was like, oldest seventy five and.
Speaker 4: You just I need an oil pencil for line work
Speaker 4: on my face.
Speaker 1: And you, yes, oh that's youngest.
Speaker 2: I think eleven or twelve.
Speaker 1: That's so funny. Yeah, I love it.
Speaker 4: Theater wasn't that because I started with a wildly popular
Speaker 4: troop out of Montana, and I thought one of the uh,
Speaker 4: one of our rules was no kids. No uh well
Speaker 4: that's mentally deficient characters like you. That was a no
Speaker 4: no al ways mmmm yeah yeah. And I just thought
Speaker 4: that was like a rule for all of acting. But
Speaker 4: maybe that's just our troop leader Eva. Maybe I think
Speaker 4: that was just her and she was right, yeah, and she.
Speaker 2: Was for improv.
Speaker 3: It makes sense because you're if you're going to stand
Speaker 3: there and make up a scene, don't don't do a
Speaker 3: thing that's just going to make people insanely uncomfortable. Scene yea,
Speaker 3: get a laugh if you're if you're trying to play
Speaker 3: cutesy or make fun of this a deficiency, yeah, everyone's
Speaker 3: gonna bum out. And it's anti comedy as opposed to
Speaker 3: Marriott Juilliard who's like, I can't, I can and will
Speaker 3: play a child of the of the dust Bowl.
Speaker 6: Oh, and you know, I upstaged the whole show. I
Speaker 6: was a child of the dust Bowl who had just
Speaker 6: you know, a real sense of imagination and was like
Speaker 6: doing doing all kinds of stuff upstage that pulled focus.
Speaker 6: I love it.
Speaker 1: I loved the idea of this happening.
Speaker 4: But all the other actors were children except for you.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was a really avant garde production and we
Speaker 5: didn't get great reviews, but you know what, Yeah, I
Speaker 5: know it was weird, but we had a point of view.
Speaker 5: Yeah that makes me think of the.
Speaker 3: Not to just keep talking about. But I think it
Speaker 3: was the last thing that I believed I could do.
Speaker 3: And the reason I think, I think after that I
Speaker 3: was like, don't do that stuff anymore, was because one
Speaker 3: of the first things that happened, it was the first
Speaker 3: day of rehearsal, but it was it was for a
Speaker 3: TV show, but you know whatever, and we were just
Speaker 3: doing these rehearsals of the scenes and everybody else My
Speaker 3: scene was like fourth. So it was just watching all
Speaker 3: these amazing British Scottish actors who all went to the
Speaker 3: Royal Academy me, you know, like they were legit, and
Speaker 3: I was just sitting there like, I'm fuck, this is crazy.
Speaker 3: I don't know how I got this part because I
Speaker 3: was like the American sister, right, yeah and cool. I
Speaker 3: was really excited, but I absolutely did not believe I
Speaker 3: should be there. And then the first scene we have
Speaker 3: in front of everybody, and we literally it's like two
Speaker 3: other people are talking and I say my line and
Speaker 3: the director goes, hold on, what don't don't do that,
Speaker 3: don't make that noise? And I go I was like sorry,
Speaker 3: and she goes, you're making that American actress noise before
Speaker 3: and she fucked me, like it absolutely was such bad,
Speaker 3: such bad, such a bad.
Speaker 2: Directing move on her partner.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think it was because she was like
Speaker 3: an expat and I think she wanted to show everybody
Speaker 3: else that she's not. But it's this thing, and it's
Speaker 3: really true. It's a complete sitcom thing from the nineties
Speaker 3: where if you're doing comedy and someone says something to you,
Speaker 3: you go you make a little exhale before you say
Speaker 3: your line to kind of show. And that was like,
Speaker 3: my I'm showing that I don't like what you just
Speaker 3: said or whatever. But I had no idea I was
Speaker 3: doing it and I didn't know. And also I wanted
Speaker 3: to go, yeah, thanks, I have no training, like you
Speaker 3: shouldn't have cast me.
Speaker 4: I learned this from watching episodes of Becker or something.
Speaker 1: Yeah for real.
Speaker 3: Yeah it was sitcom acting, but it was that thing
Speaker 3: where it was like it was almost like she figured
Speaker 3: out the perfect thing to dismantle me entirely for the
Speaker 3: rest of the time.
Speaker 2: It was crazy.
Speaker 3: It was crazy, But then after a while it was
Speaker 3: like I started to realize, well, you're in this, so
Speaker 3: you better fucking like you know, like you're not going
Speaker 3: to get it from the boom operator.
Speaker 2: You're not going to get it from her.
Speaker 3: Everybody in the cast was lovely, so I was just like, well,
Speaker 3: just do what they're doing, like you'll be fine. Oh.
Speaker 3: I had to kind of like dig it up myself.
Speaker 5: That's such an awful experience to have to like, oh
Speaker 5: my god, I so I can really relate to that.
Speaker 1: It's like it it wasn't in front.
Speaker 5: Of everybody too then oh yeah, oh yeah, god, it's
Speaker 5: such a no, please don't.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think if I think if I were
Speaker 3: a true, like actor at heart, I would have been
Speaker 3: able to kind of like counteract ego wise, right, counteract that.
Speaker 2: But it's like, but I think I was. It was
Speaker 2: just like in that thing where I was just.
Speaker 3: Like, how did I get this barred? This is so exciting?
Speaker 3: And then it was like it was basically her going like, hm,
Speaker 3: I'm not sure, and then I'm like, oh, because I'm
Speaker 3: really not sure, so now we're all not sure. It
Speaker 3: was like that, you know, watching something kind of unravel.
Speaker 2: Yeah, totally.
Speaker 3: Luckily the other people in it were so good and
Speaker 3: so nice and so cool that it it that helped
Speaker 3: and elevate it, and I just you know, it wasn't
Speaker 3: It was a great experience overall, but it was one
Speaker 3: of those kind of things where it's like, yeah, you
Speaker 3: can't essentially, that's what I'm saying. You can't have a
Speaker 3: low uh you know bank of your confidence bank has
Speaker 3: to be completely full, yes, ten. You can't be kind
Speaker 3: of like middle to low, or your fucked because one
Speaker 3: thing like that happens and you you you're fucked, yes,
Speaker 3: Or you have to like put all the self because oh,
Speaker 3: you know, I'm just filled with self doubt and loathing.
Speaker 2: But I'm able to sort of like you.
Speaker 5: Shove it away and you're like, I'll deal with that
Speaker 5: when I go back to my room and I'll cry,
Speaker 5: I'll hate myself for the rest of the night. But
Speaker 5: for now, like, yes, it's almost like you have to
Speaker 5: like just I don't know, uh, push it to the
Speaker 5: side because you It's definitely not a thing, at least
Speaker 5: for me, where I feel like I am full of
Speaker 5: confidence throughout the whole thing.
Speaker 2: It's like I am dead in a part of myself.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's what's that's the way to put it.
Speaker 4: I think that's what people get good at. When I
Speaker 4: watch someone that is unshakably confident, I quickly realize a
Speaker 4: lot of the time that they aren't confident. They hate
Speaker 4: themselves like I do as well, but they were able
Speaker 4: to set it aside. And I've never been in the
Speaker 4: set it aside and get into full character.
Speaker 3: It's tough to get into character, it is.
Speaker 5: Oh, getting into character is so hard. You have to sit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you have to find a good chair.
Speaker 1: That's that's the hardest. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I want to start to get into this standing acting.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, not on zoom then no, full body stand
Speaker 3: up acting. Mary what was your first What was the
Speaker 3: first job you got in Hollywood where it wasn't a
Speaker 3: usc student film but it was actually like you were like, oh,
Speaker 3: this is a real one.
Speaker 2: Where you have to sign up. Yeah, yeah, Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2: It was a Cascade commercial.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, Yes, what was your line? What was the line?
Speaker 5: I think my line was like, which I of course
Speaker 5: then played way too big and I was like, you
Speaker 5: can't put that in there.
Speaker 2: Or something like that.
Speaker 5: It was something about it was something about the dishwasher
Speaker 5: and that. I was like, oh, because my husband in
Speaker 5: the commercial, he was.
Speaker 2: Going to put a dish in the dishwasher without having
Speaker 2: rinsed it.
Speaker 1: These dumb commercial husbands.
Speaker 5: And I was like, you cannot with I was like,
Speaker 5: what the fuck are you doing? And I grabbed and
Speaker 5: buy the collar and I spit in his face. And
Speaker 5: but the parasitic commercial is, oh, you don't have to
Speaker 5: rent it, you know, with the Cascade, you just put
Speaker 5: it right in, keep it dirty and all that. And yes,
Speaker 5: it was so exciting. I was just I was over
Speaker 5: the moon to be to be on a real set
Speaker 5: and to be Yeah, it was so exciting.
Speaker 1: Did you have to sign something that said you would
Speaker 1: not be in any other dish or soap related commercial
Speaker 1: for a year and a half there like that.
Speaker 2: There is Yes, it's like an exclusivity thing.
Speaker 3: I think.
Speaker 5: I I'm sure I did. Yes, any any sort of
Speaker 5: dish products I I could, and you know they were clamoring.
Speaker 1: You to have me.
Speaker 3: That's when they all start calling you on.
Speaker 2: Paul Malive.
Speaker 5: Paul Malive was really persistent, Uh, yes, I did have
Speaker 5: to do that.
Speaker 2: And it was also the first time, Like.
Speaker 5: The acting lifestyle is so crazy because you sort of
Speaker 5: you of course, never know when you're gonna work, and
Speaker 5: you you work and you get like a chunk of
Speaker 5: income and then but it's not consistent and.
Speaker 1: So you're expected to figure out for yourself how to.
Speaker 5: Make that chunk last. And you know, I learned that
Speaker 5: lesson the hard way. But it was my it was
Speaker 5: my first time like having that experience and like, you know,
Speaker 5: not that it was a ton of money or thing,
Speaker 5: but it was like you know, when I was a
Speaker 5: host of see in a restaurant or like dog walking.
Speaker 2: And stuff, it was like, oh, you get little.
Speaker 5: Checks on like a weekly basis, but it was thrilling
Speaker 5: to see a number one was larger than one hundred dollars.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it did last a while, like it wasn't a
Speaker 3: national commercial that paid.
Speaker 2: It was a national commercial. But I wouldn't say. I
Speaker 2: wouldn't say it lasted as long as I.
Speaker 1: Just turn the metal in con because they.
Speaker 2: Also like the narrative you hear.
Speaker 5: And I don't know if you both experienced this, but
Speaker 5: the narrative you hear, like, oh, commercial acting is where
Speaker 5: it's at.
Speaker 1: You know, you get on the super Bowl, Yes.
Speaker 5: You're set for life. It's basically the narrative that I internalized.
Speaker 4: It used to be that way, yeah, right, yeah, no longer, no, no.
Speaker 1: No, it's just it lasts for two months.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then they when they take away the insurance
Speaker 4: and you're left with these car payments from a Honda
Speaker 4: A eight on record that you bought.
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's just an example, Chris, you're crying.
Speaker 1: It's okay. It's my method acting.
Speaker 4: That's the first thing I learned when I got to
Speaker 4: Los Angeles. It's how to cry on command. It had
Speaker 4: nothing to do with acting. It's just it was that's
Speaker 4: what the city did to me. Did you really was
Speaker 4: one of your first jobs at medieval times? For reals,
Speaker 4: I know you've talked.
Speaker 2: That was my first ever job. Yeah, yes, oh it's
Speaker 2: a photography Wench.
Speaker 1: Now that's you know, that's a problem.
Speaker 4: That's a job where men it's they're playing along like
Speaker 4: at dix Burgers or whatever or Dick's whatever.
Speaker 2: Where last resort?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that place where it's like, here's your napkins, asshole?
Speaker 1: Can I not? I don't want to play the game.
Speaker 1: Can we be normal? Thank god?
Speaker 4: I'm so tired of this character. Were men just like, hey, Wench,
Speaker 4: it had.
Speaker 2: To be awful, you know, it really wasn't.
Speaker 5: And I because, well, huh, the whole reason I love
Speaker 5: Medieval Times so much. And I went my high school
Speaker 5: Merching band went when I was sixteen or something to
Speaker 5: the to the Medieval Times in Toronto, and I loved
Speaker 5: it so much that as soon as I went to
Speaker 5: college outside Chicago, and there's in Medieval Times in Shamberg, Illinois, and.
Speaker 2: I was like, I gotta work there. I'll do whatever.
Speaker 5: And it was it was fifty miles away from the
Speaker 5: town where I went to college in, so I was
Speaker 5: like worth it.
Speaker 2: I will drive one hundred miles round trip.
Speaker 5: Every Friday, Saturday, Sunday to get paid six dollars and
Speaker 5: fifty cents an hour just to be in this world.
Speaker 1: It would be fun to be that character all day.
Speaker 1: I would like that.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, I loved it, but I didn't really.
Speaker 5: I also wasn't interacting with the guests as closely as sure.
Speaker 4: Yeah, if you were interacting with them, that would be
Speaker 4: too close of a photo.
Speaker 1: From the wench.
Speaker 4: You have to from a distance take a good photo,
Speaker 4: is what I'm saying. My knowledge of photography is that
Speaker 4: you don't have to be six inches.
Speaker 3: Away, and that's very true.
Speaker 5: But what we would do, like the serving the serving
Speaker 5: staff would come by and they would like they would
Speaker 5: get you know, called on for drinks and stuff like that.
Speaker 5: So they were like getting uh called to more. And
Speaker 5: I do remember going once and our server was like,
Speaker 5: you can call me my name, you can call me this,
Speaker 5: but do not call me wench.
Speaker 2: I know what I'm dressed.
Speaker 1: Like, but don't you dare. Yeah yeah, so.
Speaker 4: That word, I think is why I asked that. I'm like,
Speaker 4: that's not They have changed that, mabe.
Speaker 1: I'm sure they have.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Were you in a different area like people came to
Speaker 3: get their picture from you?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 2: Well, oh so my job was it was a small staff.
Speaker 5: There was like seven of us maybe, and what we
Speaker 5: would do is, have you been to Medieval Times?
Speaker 1: Yes? I have a follow up story that I'm very glad.
Speaker 2: I can't wait till I can't wait to hear it,
Speaker 2: hear you.
Speaker 3: I tried to go one time, and we called ahead
Speaker 3: of time because I have epilepsy.
Speaker 2: They were like, do you have strobe lights? And they're like, no,
Speaker 2: it's fine.
Speaker 3: And then we get there and there's huge signs going
Speaker 3: no strobe lights, be warned. So we all like had
Speaker 3: to get We all like looked each other and just
Speaker 3: got back in the car and you know, went somewhere else.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was.
Speaker 3: It was really disappointing, and I felt so guilty. And
Speaker 3: then like three people in the group were like, I'm
Speaker 3: really glad we're leaving. I'm really excited we don't have
Speaker 3: to do this. And I was like, oh, thank god. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I did it feel too bad? Yeah, all that sucks.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they do like light a light show with some
Speaker 5: of the Yeah, it's but that's so disappointing that they
Speaker 5: weren't upfront about that to begin with.
Speaker 3: You know, the strobe lights of medieval times are represented
Speaker 3: accurately and they are good.
Speaker 5: That's fine, and they are and you know so and
Speaker 5: as you know, as is us taking pictures with cameras
Speaker 5: and trying to.
Speaker 2: Sell you little key chains with your pictures in it.
Speaker 5: But that's kind of what we would do is people
Speaker 5: would come in and we would take pictures of groups together.
Speaker 5: And it varies from like franchise to franchise, like sometimes
Speaker 5: the king will be out there or the queen and
Speaker 5: you get to take pictures with the queen. But we
Speaker 5: would just do I don't know why we didn't have
Speaker 5: a character out there, but we would just take in
Speaker 5: front of a backdrop, take group pictures of the people,
Speaker 5: and we'd have them hold up their table numbers so
Speaker 5: we see like the color, like they're in the yellow
Speaker 5: section and they're at table nine or whatever. But it's
Speaker 5: like kind of a terrible picture to just have you
Speaker 5: like just holding up your table, but we're like whatever,
Speaker 5: it doesn't matter, so we would take the picture. We'd
Speaker 5: go after like the show had started and the audience
Speaker 5: was in the arena, we would go up to the
Speaker 5: photo lab and we'd print off these like you know,
Speaker 5: souvenir booklets and.
Speaker 2: Keychains.
Speaker 5: As I mentioned before, there are keychains, and you know,
Speaker 5: the different size copies of the photo. We put them
Speaker 5: in packets and then we'd each get like a stack
Speaker 5: of packets and we'd have a flashlight and we'd have
Speaker 5: to go into the arena and try to sell them
Speaker 5: to people during the shop.
Speaker 1: Flashlights, not a torch, that's what.
Speaker 5: It's something about the photos being flammable as well as
Speaker 5: our costumes.
Speaker 2: But but I was so bad at selling those packets.
Speaker 2: But because also.
Speaker 5: There's like most of the pictures was like a child's
Speaker 5: head seven feet of like space of the backdrop and
Speaker 5: then a little table card in the corner.
Speaker 2: These were not good photos.
Speaker 5: But but you know, my cowork is sell a lot
Speaker 5: of them.
Speaker 2: But I just couldn't do it.
Speaker 1: So anyway, that was a chop. That's great.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, they should have a monitor so you just
Speaker 4: point at it, you know, like at a roller coaster.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 5: It's also so wasteful because we would print them ahead
Speaker 5: of all, so like people wouldn't even say we want them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like it.
Speaker 2: Was like part of the experience. I guess as you
Speaker 2: just get.
Speaker 1: To well, I guess I shouldn't have framed it. My lord,
Speaker 1: I wonder.
Speaker 3: If any cheap dads go and go through the dumpster
Speaker 3: at the end of the night and be like, here
Speaker 3: it is.
Speaker 2: I'm not fans of yeah either.
Speaker 5: Oh my god, it was twenty dollars. Oh shit, those
Speaker 5: packets were twenty dollars. That's Schomberg for you tell you what?
Speaker 1: Thanks Mary.
Speaker 4: Do you know like Jordan Morris and Hal Roudneck Yeah,
Speaker 4: h yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: We went.
Speaker 4: So we worked for this thing called Fuel TV. It
Speaker 4: was like a skateboard snowboard network. But we had to
Speaker 4: do these pack these go to events, and so we
Speaker 4: went to Vegas.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it was a Medieval Times.
Speaker 4: It may have been like a a rip off of it.
Speaker 4: Maybe it was Medieval Times. But we just were going
Speaker 4: to interview some nights and be in characters standard yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: being characters and do jokes and then put together an
Speaker 4: interview montage. But they wrote us into the show onto
Speaker 4: the act like we and we they just said, oh,
Speaker 4: you're going to be part of the show.
Speaker 1: You and we had marks that we had.
Speaker 4: I had to run in the mud in full armor
Speaker 4: and a horse like got up on its hind legs
Speaker 4: right above me, and that's where the strobe lights came.
Speaker 4: In they they shot red lights on them, so it
Speaker 4: seemed like a red knight, like from the Fisher King
Speaker 4: or something. Yeah, and then Jan had to fall fall
Speaker 4: and I had to lift him up. And I'm realizing
Speaker 4: now that they were messing with us because I had
Speaker 4: to run with Jordan on my back through the mud
Speaker 4: and I was sore.
Speaker 1: I like pulled a muscle in my leg. They were
Speaker 1: probably laughing at us.
Speaker 4: I had to a guy's fully swung at me with
Speaker 4: a sword and I had break up with a sword
Speaker 4: that they left in the mud.
Speaker 1: It was insane and horrifying.
Speaker 4: It was stunt work and we were not We're like, oh,
Speaker 4: you don't have to put us in the show, and
Speaker 4: they're like, oh, you're in the show.
Speaker 2: It was so did you have a rehearsal or were
Speaker 2: they just.
Speaker 4: Like like looking at a piece of paper, Oh, you'll
Speaker 4: run see this out there. You'll run out there, and
Speaker 4: that's when the first horse comes. There's an argument that's
Speaker 4: when you pick up the sword, then your friend will
Speaker 4: be on the ground. I can't remember the whole scene
Speaker 4: or the storyline.
Speaker 2: Yes, I can't.
Speaker 4: The fact that I had to run with Jordans in
Speaker 4: wet horse mud and poop.
Speaker 1: Wearing. There was poop. No one warned me about that.
Speaker 4: I can't believe. I, you know, rubbed it in my
Speaker 4: face for good luck.
Speaker 1: Anyway.
Speaker 4: It was horrifying, Chris, I was sure, I know, I
Speaker 4: don't know why. I you know, before a scene you
Speaker 4: have to rub the dirt on your face.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: It was absolutely horrifying.
Speaker 4: And I couldn't walk the next day, like the wow,
Speaker 4: yeah it was so I then.
Speaker 2: You Sue, and now you own that I could have.
Speaker 1: Yeah, now I could. No, I just got a free stein.
Speaker 5: Of mead.
Speaker 1: It's Miller light. Yeah, so scary.
Speaker 2: God, what a crazy I'm so jealous of that experience.
Speaker 2: I would have. All I wanted was to get in
Speaker 2: that arena.
Speaker 3: Yeah, if I did, you have to work up to it.
Speaker 3: Was it like if you started the photography lunch some
Speaker 3: day you might be able.
Speaker 1: To right right?
Speaker 2: No, No, there was no ladder.
Speaker 5: There was from photography wunch, but I did there. The
Speaker 5: Lord Chancellor, who sort of is the n sea of
Speaker 5: the night, he was also in charge of casting, and
Speaker 5: so I would I would always, like, you know, whenever
Speaker 5: he would be I was like, oh my god, he's
Speaker 5: so glorious. And one time I was standing at the
Speaker 5: photo We set up a booth after the show where
Speaker 5: people can come and if they didn't buy the packete
Speaker 5: during the show, they have like another option before they leave.
Speaker 5: And so I was standing there with my coworker, who
Speaker 5: is this really lovely woman, and the Lord Chancellor came
Speaker 5: up to us and I was like, oh, it's the
Speaker 5: Lord Chancellor and he he like he did the thing,
Speaker 5: was like he was looking at me and he smiled,
Speaker 5: and then he turned his attention to the girl next
Speaker 5: to me and was like, excuse me, are you an actress?
Speaker 2: And I was like I was inside.
Speaker 1: I was like and she was like no, and.
Speaker 5: He was like, well, I'm you know, we're looking for
Speaker 5: actresses to play the part of the princess in the story.
Speaker 1: And I was.
Speaker 5: Like, that's all I wanted, but he like gave her.
Speaker 5: I didn't say anything in the moment, you know, because
Speaker 5: he wasn't talking to me, but he gave her like
Speaker 5: information for an audition. So I think you can like
Speaker 5: get scouted, I guess to be a part of the show.
Speaker 5: I'm sure there are like regular auditions too, but it
Speaker 5: was heartbreaking.
Speaker 3: You have to catch the Lord Chancellor's eye essentially.
Speaker 4: Did you have to do people stay in character when
Speaker 4: there is the show isn't happening, like permissioner use the bathroom,
Speaker 4: my vassal, stuff like that, did you I mean, I
Speaker 4: imagine people staying characters.
Speaker 5: Well, I really wanted to. I was because I was
Speaker 5: also like I was really into Lord of the Rings.
Speaker 5: I was like listening to the soundtrack to him from work.
Speaker 2: So I actually.
Speaker 1: Didn't have any friends at work.
Speaker 5: I didn't like, I didn't talk to people. I sort
Speaker 5: of like showed up. I got like my corset and
Speaker 5: my clothes, and I just like, yeah, stayed in character,
Speaker 5: I guess whole time. But my character was it wasn't
Speaker 5: like a it wasn't like a super strong character or anything.
Speaker 2: It was just like you know, I but I just didn't.
Speaker 2: I didn't ever drop out of it, I guess.
Speaker 5: And yeah, you know, planned to go to tjive Fridays
Speaker 5: with anybody you know?
Speaker 1: Right right?
Speaker 4: Well, I guess I do that. During Halloween. I've realized
Speaker 4: it's not that bad to stay in character with your costume,
Speaker 4: you know, or I've done it. They have like a
Speaker 4: Renaissance festival here and I went with a group of
Speaker 4: people and they all some of my nerdier friends, and
Speaker 4: they all stayed in character. And so I'm like, I
Speaker 4: just got quiet. That's where I didn't want to do it.
Speaker 4: I just I'm like, no, I'm eating another period turkey leg.
Speaker 4: You know, I'm doing my part.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I love it. I love that whole world. I
Speaker 5: just I just really eat it up. So, yeah, that
Speaker 5: was my that was my first ever job.
Speaker 3: That's a great first job. What a kind of like
Speaker 3: what a standard to set, whereas like some people work
Speaker 3: at ed the Bevick's. But you're just like, no, I've
Speaker 3: gone back in time to take photos.
Speaker 1: That's right.
Speaker 5: No, I uh yeah, yeah that was I would accept
Speaker 5: no less. At that time, I didn't I didn't really
Speaker 5: understand how jobs worked. And I was like, no, no,
Speaker 5: it has to be fulfilling a fantasy.
Speaker 1: Many job I work has to fulfill a fantasy.
Speaker 3: And sorry, you were driving? Did it take you half
Speaker 3: an hour? Did it take you?
Speaker 2: It took me an hour down and an hour back?
Speaker 2: Jesus Christ. Yeah, that's hilarious.
Speaker 5: So I paid to work there.
Speaker 3: Yet in many ways, now you're Mary. You're the kind
Speaker 3: of person that I feel like, I feel like I
Speaker 3: went to college with you. I feel like I've known
Speaker 3: you for a really long.
Speaker 1: Time and I feel the same way.
Speaker 3: It's really weird, but we actually I'm like, but did
Speaker 3: we first meet, like with me doing Askcat or the
Speaker 3: UCB show.
Speaker 2: Yes, that that was the first time we met.
Speaker 5: I remember we were backstage and you had written.
Speaker 2: For Space, Yes, Space, Other Space.
Speaker 5: And it was right before we were about to go
Speaker 5: on and you you mentioned that you were writing for
Speaker 5: that show, and I fell head over heels for you.
Speaker 5: And I mean not because of that fact, because then I,
Speaker 5: you know, saw you perform and do your thing and
Speaker 5: was madly in love and then and I think my
Speaker 5: favorite Murder was relatively young at that time, but Betsy
Speaker 5: Star was backstage with us and she was like talking
Speaker 5: to you about your podcast and I was like, what
Speaker 5: is this podcast? And then I started listening to it,
Speaker 5: and Karen, you are in my ear.
Speaker 2: For hours every week.
Speaker 5: So I really feel like we have a very long,
Speaker 5: very long history.
Speaker 2: But that means a lot that that it's a mutual
Speaker 2: feeling because.
Speaker 3: I yeah, yeah, oh same sick well. And also, I
Speaker 3: you know, improv is the kind of thing I've talked
Speaker 3: about this and you and I've talked about this before,
Speaker 3: because I I feel like the improv and stand up
Speaker 3: are opposite, where improv is anything goes, stay in the moment,
Speaker 3: see what other people are doing right, And for me
Speaker 3: that is it's so scary and so horrifying, and I
Speaker 3: trust no one and I need to get the big
Speaker 3: laugh myself and I don't give a fuck about anybody,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 2: So I have such a.
Speaker 3: Competitive kind of controlling thing about performing where stand up
Speaker 3: it suits. But my friend tricked me into taking an
Speaker 3: improv class one time, and I it cracked me open,
Speaker 3: where I was like, oh, all of that is like neurosis,
Speaker 3: and if you can actually play against that and give
Speaker 3: into anything could happen and you will be fine if
Speaker 3: you just trust this moment whatever. So then I got
Speaker 3: this appreciation for improv and what improv people do and
Speaker 3: when you're good at improv, what an amazing thing that is.
Speaker 3: So like I'm so from the nineties where like coming up,
Speaker 3: it was like if you're in stand up, you think
Speaker 3: improv is dumb and you have to stand against the
Speaker 3: other team like that weird pre internet competitive weirdness. So
Speaker 3: when I when I first started getting asked to do
Speaker 3: shows like that, I was like you got to put
Speaker 3: all that weird shit down that like and just give over.
Speaker 3: That's like you have to play their game because because
Speaker 3: that's because it's a good the skills are really important
Speaker 3: as a performer, like being open and being calm and
Speaker 3: being confident and all those kind of all those things.
Speaker 3: So doing it with you guys, you know, and the
Speaker 3: team that you guys had, I mean every time, it
Speaker 3: was like I felt like I was telling these stories
Speaker 3: that were like, oh, I don't know, here's a story
Speaker 3: about my dentist because someone suggested flash sure, right, and
Speaker 3: it's just like this, I'm not giving them anything, and
Speaker 3: this is like, in terms of stand up, this is
Speaker 3: a failure. And then you guys would do this scene
Speaker 3: where it would be fucking amazing and hilarious and you're
Speaker 3: just like, holy shit.
Speaker 4: One of the more I did not expect it or
Speaker 4: know how self indulgent it would feel to be an
Speaker 4: ascat monologust and then watch your story come to life.
Speaker 4: It's like so self fulfilling.
Speaker 1: I didn't.
Speaker 4: I'm like, this is the coolest thing I've ever experienced.
Speaker 4: A share and watch your story come to Like I
Speaker 4: did it a couple of times and I I, it
Speaker 4: was so exciting, and I'm like, so exciting. Yeah, it's
Speaker 4: such a funny. I did not see it coming. How
Speaker 4: how it put me in a good mood for.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I rested the year that because it is such
Speaker 5: an improv is such a collaborative art form. But I
Speaker 5: really loved the ASCAT format so much for that reason,
Speaker 5: where it felt like we were all working together to
Speaker 5: make the show, like it was the monologist and that
Speaker 5: was the improvisers, and we all like create it.
Speaker 2: The show couldn't exist without either component.
Speaker 4: And it was so actually called not a herald, but
Speaker 4: a a name.
Speaker 1: It's an Armando, no Armando.
Speaker 4: I just wanted to put in a plan, a seed
Speaker 4: that I do indeed have a training and improv and
Speaker 4: I was background, well, it's wallpaper, no, And I was
Speaker 4: bad at it because I, like Karen said, I would.
Speaker 4: I really noticed the contrast when I would when I
Speaker 4: moved to Austin because of an improv festival, and then
Speaker 4: I immediately started doing stand up. There was nights where
Speaker 4: I would do improv with and it was short form
Speaker 4: games and then afterwards I stand up and I would
Speaker 4: either suck at one or the other because they're two
Speaker 4: different mindsets and building a scene with other people and
Speaker 4: being that open and listening and not trying to get
Speaker 4: I would just get a joke in and they'd roll
Speaker 4: their eyes probably and I'm like, or I would suck,
Speaker 4: and then I'd do well at stand up but never
Speaker 4: in the same night, I realized that it wasn't so
Speaker 4: much a competitiveness, but that was there, Karen, Like you said,
Speaker 4: like improv people don't hang out with stand up people,
Speaker 4: I'm like, why I don't. I like both made up,
Speaker 4: but it was really hard to be a part of both.
Speaker 1: It was two parts of my brain. I maybe that's
Speaker 1: just me, but it.
Speaker 2: Makes me think.
Speaker 3: The first time I did that improv class, the first time,
Speaker 3: I because I just said no, I'm auditing.
Speaker 2: Because I was.
Speaker 3: It scared me to death. I was like, so sorry,
Speaker 3: you're saying I don't get to control everything, and like
Speaker 3: it was like saying basically saying, put your entire personality
Speaker 3: down that you have been cultivating for you know, twenty
Speaker 3: five years, and then good luck. I was like, this
Speaker 3: is horrifying. So the very first scene I was in,
Speaker 3: you know, I have to pick my action, so of
Speaker 3: course start flipping burgers because deep down. I'm not a
Speaker 3: creative person at all, is how it felt. And I'm
Speaker 3: sitting there flipping burgers and the guy enters the scene
Speaker 3: and I just very slowly.
Speaker 2: Turned my back. And it was Chris Barnes, who was
Speaker 2: the teacher, and he's like, hey, Karen, what are you doing?
Speaker 3: He's like, you have to acknowledge a person came into
Speaker 3: your burger join or whatever.
Speaker 2: I was just like, oh, yeah, I just did. I
Speaker 2: don't want to.
Speaker 1: I don't want to interact with it.
Speaker 4: You know, you're choosing, Yeah, you're choosing to basically ignore someone.
Speaker 3: And the whole point of you standing there is to say, hey,
Speaker 3: what's up? Like, Hey, why are you in my burger joint? Yeah?
Speaker 3: And it was the funniest like it's just like, well, sorry,
Speaker 3: these are my instincts.
Speaker 2: My instinct is to turn my back. That's who I am.
Speaker 2: I guess I have to.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but in your defense, what burger joint you walk
Speaker 4: in and it's the cook's job to say welcome, And.
Speaker 1: That's exactly It's kind of.
Speaker 4: Like, yeah, he was snoozing on his part the why
Speaker 4: can I get something from you?
Speaker 2: In the line? Cook, also get out of the kitchen.
Speaker 5: What are you doing?
Speaker 1: Yeah, why did you walk in?
Speaker 4: And that it's so funny because you immediately went to
Speaker 4: flipping burgers. That the clip that they sent here, I
Speaker 4: just watched where U you all did improv on meltdown
Speaker 4: and every suggestion they're like apples and you all just
Speaker 4: start picking apples and what.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 4: There was just everything you in Unison knew that you
Speaker 4: just had to do all do the same actions. No
Speaker 4: one was ever going to be the customer or even
Speaker 4: holding a basket of apples.
Speaker 1: Ye, just the same everyone match match.
Speaker 5: Yeah, this is because I also, like I taught after
Speaker 5: going through UCP and performing there for a while, I
Speaker 5: was teaching classes and with coach and stuff and and
Speaker 5: it's so it's it is such a crazy thing because
Speaker 5: obviously you're working towards being funny. Yeah, right, but you
Speaker 5: really have to you almost have to be like I'm
Speaker 5: not going to even try to be funny. Like we
Speaker 5: would encourage people to like don't worry about comedy right now.
Speaker 5: It's like just like, h be exist in this like space,
Speaker 5: exist in the burger joint. Don't worry about how it's
Speaker 5: going to be funny or like try to make something happen,
Speaker 5: like you can just like base level, just exist and
Speaker 5: make it feel real, but that makes no sense to
Speaker 5: our bodies that are like why am I on stage
Speaker 5: right now?
Speaker 3: Yes, it felt very dangerous to be on stage but
Speaker 3: not be giving people anything to justify my burger flipping existence.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just.
Speaker 2: Like I can't just stand here.
Speaker 3: Yes, I can't just stand here, and I also can't
Speaker 3: figure out what you're about to do, so I can't
Speaker 3: acknowledge you like the decision making.
Speaker 2: And I think that was.
Speaker 3: Really what my kind of fear was that all I
Speaker 3: did was learn you're afraid of it because yeah, it
Speaker 3: doesn't really work. So like the whole idea of going
Speaker 3: to these classes, and I really love Chris Barnes because
Speaker 3: he was such a good teacher and he was so
Speaker 3: just like that exact thing of you're not writing this
Speaker 3: scene and you're not in control of what the other
Speaker 3: person does. It's all just about how you react to
Speaker 3: what ends up happening. And you do that all day,
Speaker 3: so you already know how to do this. It's not
Speaker 3: from living life.
Speaker 2: Yes exactly.
Speaker 3: It's like it's not that big of a deal where
Speaker 3: to me it was all like, yeah, even if the
Speaker 3: stage is only half an inch above the floor, you're
Speaker 3: on stage, so you better be like, hello my baby. Yeah,
Speaker 3: given given a thousand persons.
Speaker 2: You better Hello my baby all over that.
Speaker 1: Stage because it's a catchy song.
Speaker 2: Well it's so vulnerable.
Speaker 5: I think that's like what it comes down to is
Speaker 5: like it really requires uh, you're just so raw and
Speaker 5: so exposed and yes, so vulnerable, like people will not laugh,
Speaker 5: is what I tell myself all the time.
Speaker 2: But that is after.
Speaker 5: I guess, like if you do it so much, you
Speaker 5: just get desensitized to that and you feel okay, I guess.
Speaker 3: Being that kind of well, that's the that's where the
Speaker 3: power is because if you can, if you understand that
Speaker 3: getting vulnerable is what's going to bring something and like
Speaker 3: that that's people are in the audience watching you do it.
Speaker 3: Because even just getting to the vulnerable vulnerable part, like
Speaker 3: the first time I did askat with you guys, where
Speaker 3: I knew I was like, there's gonna be some like
Speaker 3: heavy hitters here and then are you gonna be the
Speaker 3: wink link? And it was all that shinny Like that's
Speaker 3: the kind of like the negative talk that I think
Speaker 3: is gonna get me somewhere where it's like no, no, no,
Speaker 3: no no, And I was just like, here's the key.
Speaker 3: They know that you are having to basically make something up,
Speaker 3: tell a story based on a suggestion. Yes, so it's
Speaker 3: not like I had to bring here's my best stories,
Speaker 3: because it's not about that. Yeah, and that's what makes
Speaker 3: it like, yeah, sit there and think about it for
Speaker 3: a second, and then just tell the most interesting story,
Speaker 3: not the funniest or not the most like punchy. But like,
Speaker 3: all you can do is what they give you. Wait, like,
Speaker 3: try to think of something around what they give you
Speaker 3: and be specific so that the actual improvisers have something
Speaker 3: to do as opposed to like get a bunch of
Speaker 3: laughs and then sit down across your arms. It's like
Speaker 3: you're here in service of that later scene, so just
Speaker 3: be in service and thank fucking God, because I was
Speaker 3: just like it was that feeling of like, of course
Speaker 3: I have the compulsion and the like lifelong you know,
Speaker 3: mental illness of I have to be funny and I
Speaker 3: have to make a joke. But then there was this
Speaker 3: weird like oh but yeah, he said, and I'll never
Speaker 3: forget it because the first suggestion was floss and I was.
Speaker 2: Just like, are you fucking kidding me?
Speaker 3: Like I'm trying to I'm trying to oppress these people
Speaker 3: and I'm trying to this and I'm trying to that.
Speaker 3: And it was like, Nope, you have to now be
Speaker 3: here and sincerely think of what this makes you think
Speaker 3: of and talk about it.
Speaker 2: And you were perfect. You're perfect.
Speaker 1: Thank you.
Speaker 3: It was so fun though, because it was that thing
Speaker 3: of a different way of getting to the same results
Speaker 3: where it's like I won't be the engine and I
Speaker 3: won't be the writer. I'm just I'm just trying to,
Speaker 3: you know, get a bunch of stuff going. Yeah, they
Speaker 3: have something to.
Speaker 4: Do, Yes, yes, can I admit something? Uh, there was
Speaker 4: there was something good. Let's keep this in not safe space.
Speaker 4: When I there was something that was acted out when
Speaker 4: I did my monologue and I added it to a
Speaker 4: joke because I knew it was never going to happen again.
Speaker 4: So they actually wrote one of my jokes. I'm like, oh,
Speaker 4: that's oh. It was about uh my mom dressing me
Speaker 4: up as a crossing guard and there being an actual
Speaker 4: crossing guard on duty.
Speaker 1: That's what the real life side of it.
Speaker 4: But the way they acted it out, it's like, oh,
Speaker 4: that would be funny if that was one of the
Speaker 4: things I was concerned about. I think kidnappers are something.
Speaker 4: I added that, and it was an idea got because
Speaker 4: I was like, oh no, I was worried about that.
Speaker 4: I forgot that until they reminded me, So it wasn't
Speaker 4: an actual theft. They just reminded me of my own
Speaker 4: similar thought. No, yeah, that's so fun.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that is the fun part though. It is like
Speaker 3: you're kind of a part of something that has everything
Speaker 3: to do with you and nothing to do with you,
Speaker 3: so you can like, you know, I don't know, it's
Speaker 3: it's it's funny. And then there were some parts where
Speaker 3: like I remember one scene where it was like I
Speaker 3: really was just stretching and I was like trying to
Speaker 3: think of something, and I told a weird story about
Speaker 3: the first time I went to an Indian restaurant with
Speaker 3: my aunt and uncle in San Francisco.
Speaker 2: We're all sitting cross legging on the ground.
Speaker 3: Or whatever, and it was the it turned into it
Speaker 3: was almost like we're not sure what to do with this,
Speaker 3: and that became the joke where it was like it
Speaker 3: was like it was almost like I started realizing, like, oh,
Speaker 3: you can't fail in this world.
Speaker 2: Yes, exactly, you can't.
Speaker 5: Which is it's such a beautiful it's well, I love
Speaker 5: improvs so much for that reason, where uh, I think
Speaker 5: that's such a human thing to think, how how am
Speaker 5: I going to survive in this situation? And in a
Speaker 5: comedy show, the way to survive is to be funny.
Speaker 5: And you can be funny by like trying to out
Speaker 5: funny the people while you're on stage with But but
Speaker 5: the actual, the beautiful thing about improv is, as you said, Karen,
Speaker 5: like it has everything to do with you and nothing
Speaker 5: to do with you, and you cannot fail. Like even
Speaker 5: when I would get and I still get nervous before
Speaker 5: shows and everything, but.
Speaker 2: I just sort of what helps.
Speaker 5: Like release that is just being like I don't have
Speaker 5: to worry about any of it, Like all these people
Speaker 5: are on stage with me and we will figure it out.
Speaker 2: It's like this blanket trust you have that no matter
Speaker 2: what you do, you will be supported. Yes, and it's
Speaker 2: such a it's so freaking beautiful. We get her to
Speaker 2: cry cry freaking beautiful.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it probably helps that you're you're probably good friends
Speaker 4: with everyone in Wild Horses, right, yes, yeah, arguments.
Speaker 1: You all know each other's brains.
Speaker 5: We do, we do, and because the first part of
Speaker 5: our show is we just talk like just have you know, conversation.
Speaker 2: Karen and Georgia did it at Largo. I remember that
Speaker 2: was such a I remember such a fun show. I
Speaker 2: have a vague memory of talking about PUBI care.
Speaker 1: Vague memory.
Speaker 5: Anyway, we can go back and listen to it's one
Speaker 5: of the episodes that we that was.
Speaker 2: On our podcast.
Speaker 5: But the but yeah, it's uh you after you talk
Speaker 5: so much about yourself and your point of view.
Speaker 2: Yeah you do. You really do get to know each
Speaker 2: other so well.
Speaker 1: Yes, are you? Are you back to doing live performing? Yes? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm back? Are you we'll?
Speaker 2: Oh good? Have you all done a lot of shows?
Speaker 4: I just got back from some fun shows and it
Speaker 4: is it is audiences are so appreciated and excited. Yea,
Speaker 4: and I feel that everywhere and that I wanted to
Speaker 4: stay that way.
Speaker 1: It's a very good time to be.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Five shows. Yeah, I've been loving.
Speaker 3: Have you done some Mary I have?
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I actually just came back from doing some shows in
Speaker 5: New York and I haven't been to New York in
Speaker 5: many years, so that was so exciting to be there,
Speaker 5: but I totally experienced the same thing where it was
Speaker 5: like everyone, there's such joy. Yeah, to be gathered again
Speaker 5: that you feed off. Each of the audience is feeding
Speaker 5: out the performers and vice versa. And it's just it's
Speaker 5: so positive and happy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's amazing.
Speaker 4: And then I just go right into my COVID material.
Speaker 4: Remember remember this what's happening? Oh man, I thought we
Speaker 4: were gonna forget about it.
Speaker 3: I'm here to remind you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, everybody remember three months ago when these people wanted
Speaker 1: to hear these jokes.
Speaker 3: I'm afraid you're gonna forget about quarantine and COVID. So
Speaker 3: I'm going to remind you. Do you have any plugs now?
Speaker 3: I have like shows because honestly, listeners, if you have
Speaker 3: the opportunity to see Mary Holland do improve in real life,
Speaker 3: you have to do it. It's the funniest, most magical.
Speaker 2: You have to you have to go. Thank you, Karen, Yeah,
Speaker 2: thank you.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: We Wild Horses.
Speaker 5: We do have a show coming up May twenty ninth
Speaker 5: at the Dynasty Typewriter Theater in Los Angeles.
Speaker 1: But it is cool.
Speaker 5: What they're doing is they're doing a hybrid thing where
Speaker 5: they're live streaming the show and they'll have an audience.
Speaker 2: Have y'all performed there? Yes, it's so cool.
Speaker 4: But it's been a while since because for a while
Speaker 4: everything was live streaming, and I mean I was doing
Speaker 4: shows to have a silent void with the zoom participants
Speaker 4: or audience muted, you know, and I thought that was
Speaker 4: actually a good exercise, but I was getting tired of it.
Speaker 4: But a lot of people miss being able to watch
Speaker 4: shows from there, like those streaming.
Speaker 1: I forget that.
Speaker 4: Maybe the audiences we're enjoying those, and so it's cool
Speaker 4: that you're providing both.
Speaker 1: Now, Yeah, that's yeah, that's.
Speaker 2: It's It's very cool. So we'll do that on May
Speaker 2: twenty ninth, five pm.
Speaker 3: Hey, hey, is it a nice Sunday afternoon?
Speaker 5: It's a nice Sunday afternoon. It comes to roll in
Speaker 5: straight from brunch.
Speaker 1: We'll treat to a show in New York City. It's
Speaker 1: like two in the morning, so it works out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So where's up?
Speaker 5: Yeah? Yeah, perfect, And so that's the next live show
Speaker 5: I have coming up with Wild Horses. And then I
Speaker 5: am in a movie in a film that is that
Speaker 5: will be released on Netflix on May thirteenth, called Senior year.
Speaker 1: Is Rebel Wilson in it? I read the paperwork.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that'll be that'll be fun.
Speaker 1: It's a wild ride.
Speaker 4: Yeah before the premise of that is so funny, could
Speaker 4: you just.
Speaker 5: It's very funny. So Rebel plays a cheerleader who at
Speaker 5: seventeen had a terrible cheerleading accident and went into a coma.
Speaker 1: And is she funny name? I can't even magine.
Speaker 2: They had me at Hello, my baby Hell.
Speaker 5: But then she wakes up twenty years later and she
Speaker 5: wants to finish her senior year of high school.
Speaker 3: So it's that is it's a real fun that's awesome.
Speaker 1: That is so funny to me. Yeah, premise alone, I
Speaker 1: will be watching.
Speaker 2: It's great.
Speaker 5: And it's written by Brandon Scott Jones, who's a brilliant
Speaker 5: improviser and writer and an actor. And so it's and
Speaker 5: it's got a great group. There's Sam Richardson, there's Zoe Chow.
Speaker 5: You know, it's it's a fun it's a fun group.
Speaker 2: That's awesome.
Speaker 1: I can't wait for it to come.
Speaker 5: That's May thirteenth, May thirteenth, nice, put it in your cows.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're queen, you're quick cue you your queen.
Speaker 2: You're cute.
Speaker 3: Wait no, don't talk about please, don't talk.
Speaker 1: About I'm glad you said it because I was. I
Speaker 1: wanted to yell it.
Speaker 3: You.
Speaker 4: You're so great, Mary, thank you so much for being
Speaker 4: for having me.
Speaker 2: Yes, this was.
Speaker 3: It was great to see you and you see your
Speaker 3: face and talk to you.
Speaker 2: You too, and I hear your voice truly every week.
Speaker 5: So so it's wonderful to get to see your face.
Speaker 2: And Chris, so wonderful meeting you. It was a joy.
Speaker 2: I love talking. I'm talking with you.
Speaker 1: You were terrific. And everyone watched anything Mary has been
Speaker 1: in it.
Speaker 5: She just steals the show, except for that green tomatoes please.
Speaker 1: In the dumpster that you found it in?
Speaker 3: What is that bloom operator? Then then later became like
Speaker 3: David Fincher. Someone realized he was also getting his start.
Speaker 1: You know, d see what he's doing now. Ceb remembers
Speaker 1: you maybe there's a friend.
Speaker 2: She should maybe there's a friendship.
Speaker 5: Yes, And maybe that was also a formative artistic experience
Speaker 5: for him where he was like, well, I know the
Speaker 5: kind of art.
Speaker 2: I don't want to make. It's the kind that she's
Speaker 2: doing reenactment.
Speaker 1: He became a seramesist after that.
Speaker 3: Ye It's broken.
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