1 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: Are you leaving? 2 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 2: I you wanna way back home? Either way, we want 3 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:12,120 Speaker 2: to be there. Doesn't matter how. 4 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 3: Much baggage you claim and give us time and a 5 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 3: termino and gay. 6 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 2: We want to send you off in style. Do you 7 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 2: wanna welcome you back home? 8 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:28,479 Speaker 1: Tell us all about it? 9 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 2: We scared her? Was it fine? 10 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 1: Mal porn? 11 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 3: Do you need to ride? Do you need to ride? 12 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 1: Do you need to ride? 13 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 2: Do you need to ride? Do you need to ride? 14 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 1: Do you need to ride? Ride with Karen and Chris 15 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 1: welcome to Do you need a ride? This is Chris Fairbanks. 16 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 3: And this is Karen Kilgareff. 17 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 1: Hello, my friend Karen. 18 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 2: Hello Chris. 19 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 3: I just the second as you started talking, took a 20 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:27,680 Speaker 3: sip of my drink, which is my least favorite sound 21 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:30,959 Speaker 3: to hear when I'm listening to people on podcasts or 22 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 3: the YouTube horoscope hero card reader who always drinks her tea. 23 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 3: I literally want to scream and run out of the room. 24 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:39,759 Speaker 3: And I just did it myself. 25 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:40,319 Speaker 1: It's okay. 26 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:44,680 Speaker 4: We have to be scared of accidentally smr that we're 27 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 4: doing on here, because let us not forget of the 28 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 4: muffin episode where or donuts. We had a whole box 29 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 4: of donuts and a lot of hate mail. Youre smacking. 30 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 3: We've eaten and we've drinken Starbucks on the mic so 31 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 3: many times when we're in the car, as if nothing 32 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 3: mattered in the world. This was pre pandemic. 33 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 4: Just smacking and slurping like we're doing fully work for 34 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 4: a makeout scene in a teen horror. 35 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:16,080 Speaker 2: And a teen eating disorder. 36 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 4: After school special, Very special, After school Special. 37 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 3: Very special. Rice Crispies advertised. I was eating the rice 38 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 3: Rice Crispy bar, Remember that one. That's what made that 39 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 3: one guy rolling. 40 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, because there's the crunching and the snapping and the 41 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 4: cracklings as well, it's the slurping. We it's funny. I 42 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 4: realized this weekend. I had a couple fun gigs where 43 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 4: there was a car scent and a car like a 44 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 4: driver a professional where they're holding up my name. I'm 45 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 4: not bragging. It's just very rare that I'm not ubering. 46 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:59,399 Speaker 4: And I realize it's funny because we have a podcast 47 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:03,920 Speaker 4: where we talk while driving. That is really something I've discovered. 48 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:06,919 Speaker 4: I do not want out of a driver from here 49 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 4: on out. I want a someone that might be it's 50 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 4: just a cover for them being a hit man. I 51 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 4: want a silent, stoic, brooding, handsome. I don't know why 52 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 4: they have to be a hand I'm just thinking about 53 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 4: Ryan Gosling. 54 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:22,799 Speaker 2: Baby. 55 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, I because I had two drivers, one this 56 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:32,079 Speaker 4: this woman in Cleveland. She was really sweet and then 57 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 4: just started talking about Obama and that his middle names Hussein. 58 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 4: And then the next driver, also a kind man, until 59 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 4: we started talking about COVID and he was saying it 60 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 4: was not a He'd done his own research, it's not 61 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 4: a it's not a virus. I'm just like, can we 62 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 4: just And I got mad, I'd like yelled at them 63 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 4: and felt bad. 64 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 1: It became a yelling thing. 65 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 3: Well it's supposed to become a yelling thing because both 66 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 3: of those times they were bringing up topics that Fox 67 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 3: News has taught them. Here's how you can fight with liberals. 68 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, they Essentially, I just think that not everyone 69 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 4: should have the Internet. 70 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 1: That's all. That's all. I just want it. 71 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 3: Well, how about the fact that you can do your 72 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:20,559 Speaker 3: own research until the end of time, but you're you've 73 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 3: never got your doctorate, Like take your research and test 74 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 3: it out at the local medical school that you can't 75 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 3: get into. Well, how about that? 76 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 4: According to this second driver. A lot of the scientists 77 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 4: that he looks up to have been murdered because they know, 78 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:39,720 Speaker 4: they know it's not a virus, they've been killed. 79 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 3: Chris, did you walk up to anybody holding a white 80 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 3: piece of paper and your name wasn't even on It 81 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 3: was just a crazy person you got into the car. 82 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 4: He was dressed nice, there was no leaves in his hair, 83 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 4: he didn't have a wild eye. He was a professional 84 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:59,279 Speaker 4: driver with a lot of personal opinions. And I'm just 85 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 4: glad it's over from now. 86 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:01,279 Speaker 1: It sucks. 87 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:04,279 Speaker 3: It's hard enough. Yeah, it's bad enough when they have 88 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:05,480 Speaker 3: bad COLOGNEA. 89 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 2: For that. 90 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:11,040 Speaker 3: Wait, remember the time there was a time where there 91 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:13,840 Speaker 3: was a driver that came and picked me up. God, 92 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:16,280 Speaker 3: I wish I could remember anyway, because this was a 93 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 3: while ago, and he talked the whole time. I had 94 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 3: to listen to some of his original music, Oh on on, 95 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 3: and then I as I was wont to do in 96 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 3: like twenty fifteen or whenever it was tweeted about it, 97 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 3: like as it was happening where I was, like, so 98 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:38,039 Speaker 3: if I end up in a ditch, I just wanted 99 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 3: to tell people or whatever. He responded to the tweet 100 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:44,039 Speaker 3: oh no, when I got off the plane on the 101 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:44,480 Speaker 3: other end. 102 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 4: Of whereas from that would have been way worse. 103 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:50,679 Speaker 2: That would have been way worse. 104 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:54,039 Speaker 3: But yeah, it was really that was very upsetting where 105 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 3: I was just like, oh, oh no, you and you 106 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:57,799 Speaker 3: follow me on Twitter. 107 00:05:58,040 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 2: That's insane. 108 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:01,279 Speaker 1: I'm sure I know what you're getting at. 109 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 4: I don't think these two people listen to our podcast, 110 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 4: but maybe maybe they. But I mean what I say, 111 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 4: and I'm not going back on my uh snapping at them. 112 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 3: You don't have to, although you are giving them what 113 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 3: they want by snapping at them, but it's they also 114 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:20,920 Speaker 3: have you trapped, and they're telling you. Basically they're saying, 115 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 3: I will believe anything that passes my face. 116 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, it just made it. It made it complicated because 117 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 4: I'm not kidding. They were both sweet people, right, you know, 118 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 4: the people can be both. But speaking of sweet people, God, 119 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:41,480 Speaker 4: I'm getting real good at these intro segues. 120 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 3: Karen says, who your driver? Me right now to myself, 121 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:49,480 Speaker 3: just saying the same word twice. 122 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:52,160 Speaker 2: It's just hitting. 123 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 1: It's Karen, do you want to? 124 00:06:56,560 --> 00:07:00,600 Speaker 3: She plays clubs and colleges all over this fine country that, 125 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 3: thank god, is no longer being led by a person 126 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 3: whose middle name also sounds a little bit ethnic. God forbid, 127 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 3: Ladies and gentlemen, It's Mary Holland. 128 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 1: Hi, Hi'm Mary. 129 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 2: Hi Wow, yay, I'm so excited to be here. 130 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 1: In this car. Thank you. Yes, it's it's a nice car, right. 131 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, Karen, there's a yield sign. If you could 132 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 4: just play along, Mary, we do a lot. 133 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. 134 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 1: No, Yeah, it's fun. 135 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 5: It's really fun all the different signs, and it's so 136 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 5: fun when you drive reading Yeah, reading signs, it's so fun. 137 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the best part. 138 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 1: Most of our podcast was reading signs aloud. 139 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 4: People loved it, and we get back to it soon soon. 140 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 5: I'm very impressed that you could uh maintain. Did you 141 00:07:56,600 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 5: ever find that the driving was uh, it was hard 142 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 5: to maintain, like a through line of thought or conversation. 143 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 1: I find it so. 144 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 2: Hard to drive and talk. 145 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I found it very hard. 146 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 4: And we discovered early on that the Karen's able to 147 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 4: multitask in that way. 148 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 1: And I think. 149 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 4: In my experience a lot of women in my life 150 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 4: were able to do a bunch of things at once. 151 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 4: If I try and talk and drive at the same time, 152 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 4: I just felt like I was going to make us 153 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 4: crash and Karen doesn't have that's god. 154 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 6: Well. 155 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 3: Also, Chris was for a long time our soundman and 156 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 3: we were completely guessing at how to run the zoom 157 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 3: recorder and get good sound. So there was there were 158 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 3: many episodes that you can go back and listen to 159 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 3: where Chris loses faith kind of like around usually the 160 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 3: twenty five minute mark. That great, usually on the heels 161 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 3: of something really funny or great happening with our guests, 162 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 3: and then Chris was positive it wasn't recording and and 163 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:03,679 Speaker 3: then he. 164 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 2: Would that it was. 165 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 3: It was a lot of responsibility, yeah, for just everyone 166 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 3: in the car, oh, for. 167 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:12,959 Speaker 2: Everyone, Yes, and the pressures on Yeah. 168 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 4: That the episode that we always bring up is that 169 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 4: the first time we had tig on who's married to Stephanie? 170 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:23,960 Speaker 4: Or yes, yes, true, I want to say troop partner 171 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 4: is the word true? 172 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, my troop my troop mate is what we like 173 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 5: to refer to troops. 174 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 1: With an E at the end, with a new lot 175 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:33,319 Speaker 1: over it. 176 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 3: Wild Horses one of the great improv groups. And also, wait, 177 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:39,560 Speaker 3: did you guys do a podcast or just a live show? 178 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 2: We did do a podcast. We we recorded, We did. 179 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 5: Do some episodes in a studio and then recorded some 180 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 5: live shows as well. So, uh, there are podcast versions? 181 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 4: Was the podcast great? Was the podcast non live version? 182 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 1: Scenes? Or were you just having conversations? We did do scenes. 183 00:09:58,440 --> 00:09:59,679 Speaker 1: We did do improv season. 184 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 5: Oh yes, I got to cap it with a nice 185 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 5: improv scene because you got to. 186 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 2: That's how you work through you know what you just 187 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:09,200 Speaker 2: talked about and how you process it creatively. 188 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you know what I mean, like you're all 189 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 1: sharing one brain. 190 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 2: Yes, wait, what happened in the in the car? I 191 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 2: wo tig Oh it. 192 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 4: Was our most emotional episode. Oh okay, Oh we all cried. 193 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 4: We talked about death. We uh described her wedding with 194 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:42,680 Speaker 4: Stephanie and people locking off the freeway in Mississippi when 195 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:45,440 Speaker 4: they were concerned about two women getting married. 196 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:47,960 Speaker 1: It was just really important everything we talked. It was 197 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 1: such a good episode. 198 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 4: I'm never gonna let it go. And I realized halfway 199 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 4: through that something was wrong. I think the card was 200 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 4: maybe sticking out too much. It recorded something, but it 201 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 4: sounded under water. Admitting admitting now to Karen that I 202 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 4: knew something. 203 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 1: What's up? 204 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 2: No, what are you supposed to do? 205 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 1: Though? 206 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:07,320 Speaker 2: We're like half an hour in? 207 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 1: How do you do. 208 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 3: What do you do? 209 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 1: I have a fun game. 210 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 4: Let's go back thirty minutes and see which one of 211 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:16,320 Speaker 4: us can remember what we already talked about as a game. 212 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 1: It's a fun game. 213 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 2: Not that fun of a game. 214 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, God, if you're being honest, it's actually not the 215 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 3: fun of games. 216 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:25,960 Speaker 2: Have fun of a game. 217 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 4: Mary, I've been watching You're in a lot of very 218 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 4: funny movie. I'm a comic, but I don't watch a 219 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:36,560 Speaker 4: lot of comedic stuff. I watch a lot of crime 220 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 4: and dramas, action movies for dads from the eighties, but 221 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:47,839 Speaker 4: all the you stole most scenes in Robbie. If people 222 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 4: haven't seen Robbie, it's a Comedy Central joint with Rory Scovell. 223 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:59,319 Speaker 4: Mary's so funny in that Golden Arm, the arm wrestling 224 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 4: movie I love so much, Oh my god, and I 225 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 4: loved it, and uh yeah this is before I'm like, 226 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 4: who is that? She's great and everything? And then that 227 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:15,560 Speaker 4: the Holiday movie. Uh what what that's called? Happyest The 228 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 4: happiest of seasons? I've got happiest of seasons. 229 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 3: But you know which you actually you're not merry, You're 230 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 3: not just in but you co wrote it with Cleo Deval, 231 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 3: who I leave directed. 232 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 4: It is directed it Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're really funny 233 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:36,319 Speaker 4: that the end scene. Everyone should just watch the things 234 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 4: I mentioned. Just go to Mary's IMDb. This is usually 235 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 4: a closing statement. 236 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:47,080 Speaker 5: Take any of it, any anything, Just scroll and anything. 237 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, and slam your finger down on your screen like 238 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:51,200 Speaker 4: you're spinning a globe on it. 239 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:52,680 Speaker 1: That's Mystery vacation. 240 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 5: Click on the Voodoo Xerox printer and you'll listen a treat. Great, 241 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 5: it's a wonderful skep for funny or die about a 242 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:07,079 Speaker 5: printer that comes to life. So it's really anything is 243 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 5: to choose your an adventure and you're gonna have a 244 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 5: great time. 245 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 3: Stands behind every single thing that is listed on her 246 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 3: m Yeah. 247 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 4: Is there anything on that list that you you want 248 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:24,560 Speaker 4: people to steer away from? Oh my gosh, what's what's 249 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:26,440 Speaker 4: the worst thing you've ever done. 250 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:30,199 Speaker 2: In entertainment? 251 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:31,079 Speaker 3: Or moralists? 252 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 1: Oh? Morally? 253 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:36,200 Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, Oh how much time let's get into it? 254 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 1: List all your sins? 255 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:39,960 Speaker 2: List how your sins? 256 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 5: I oh man, I'm trying to think if there's oh, well, 257 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:47,960 Speaker 5: you know what that act that is very funny you 258 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:50,320 Speaker 5: bring that up because the very first thing I ever 259 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 5: shot in my whole life. Was the worst thing I've 260 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:55,960 Speaker 5: ever done in my whole life. And there's a very 261 00:13:55,960 --> 00:14:00,559 Speaker 5: funny story around it. The worst acting I've ever done 262 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:03,439 Speaker 5: in my life. I've done so many more worse things, 263 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:08,080 Speaker 5: like in the real life, but it was for It 264 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 5: was when I first moved to LA and USC. You know, 265 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 5: they have the their film department and everything, and there's 266 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 5: a I don't know if they still do this, but 267 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 5: at the time, part of the program there in the 268 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 5: director program is they would an assignment from their class 269 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 5: would be to reshoot a famous scene from cinema history, 270 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 5: so like the breakup scene from Goodwill Hunting or. 271 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 1: You know, yeah, that's the only thing I can think of. No, 272 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 1: that's one that's used all the time. It's used all 273 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 1: the time. 274 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 5: But and the director had to like cast it and 275 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 5: then re like shoot it the way they would. And 276 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 5: so I got an audition on LA casting for us. 277 00:14:54,200 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 5: They were reshooting a scene from Fried Green Tomatoes, and 278 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 5: I was like, well, I got to do that, and so. 279 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 2: I auditioned for it. 280 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 5: I auditioned for both roles, and it was it's like, 281 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 5: not just well, I guess this movie is very old 282 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 5: at this point, I was gonna say, I don't want 283 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 5: to spoil it. 284 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, if you don't know Tomatoes at this point, that's 285 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 3: on you. 286 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 5: That's on you, and that is on you. But it's 287 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 5: the scene at the end of the movie. It basically 288 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 5: is a death. 289 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 1: Scene, and it's a story. You know, it's between these 290 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 1: two women who. 291 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 5: You know, have such a deep relationship with each other, 292 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 5: and is a very dramatic scene. 293 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 2: And I was like, I was fresh from theater school, 294 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 2: so I was in my feelings. 295 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 5: I was I was Oh, I was doing like emotional 296 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 5: preparation and I was like doing movement work and all 297 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 5: this all this stuff that I had learned. 298 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 2: To do from theater school in preparation for this scene. 299 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 5: So I auditioned and I got cast as the And 300 00:15:56,960 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 5: now I can't remember the character's name. The not not 301 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 5: maryor Louise Parker, but the Mary. 302 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 3: It's also a three. 303 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 2: Yes it's Mayor and not Mary Stuart Masters. 304 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 1: Yes it is. 305 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 5: Oh it is okay, great yees. So her character is 306 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 5: who I got cast as. And on the day of 307 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 5: shooting the scene, we shot all of the other actresses coverage. 308 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 2: First. I didn't know anything about coverage or anything, and. 309 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 5: I was just oh, I was given it every take 310 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 5: I could have given it. 311 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 2: I was just serving up just way too much emotion. 312 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 5: And then and so by the time like it turned 313 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 5: around and it was on me, I was completely exhausted 314 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 5: and I was wrenching feelings from myself, which is so 315 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 5: fun to watch. And uh, I like, oh my gosh. 316 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 5: I worked myself up into a frenzy trying to like 317 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 5: get there, you know. And then at one point we 318 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 5: were like, uh, it was in between takes, and the 319 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:04,399 Speaker 5: boom operator leaned over to me and he was like, 320 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 5: I just want to say that your performance is really beautiful. 321 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 5: It's really amazing work and just really inspired by you. 322 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 2: And I was like, oh my god, thank you. 323 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 5: Like I was like, yes, yes, I'm so impactful as 324 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 5: a performer. So that that short that she finished editing 325 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 5: it and everything, and then she took us out to dinner, 326 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:34,120 Speaker 5: the director and she's she was like telling us about 327 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:35,879 Speaker 5: the shoot and she was like, oh, that shoe was 328 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 5: such a nightmare. And we were both like, oh, really 329 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:41,679 Speaker 5: why and she was like, well, the boom operator was 330 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:42,880 Speaker 5: wasted and. 331 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 1: He was being emotional because he was drunk. I love it. 332 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:55,159 Speaker 2: He was wasted. 333 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 4: I just want to add to that and say I 334 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 4: love you. 335 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 1: Oh my god, wo is nice. 336 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:05,360 Speaker 2: That's so nice. 337 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 5: But anyway, I feel like, I mean, the director and 338 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:10,439 Speaker 5: the other actors did a great job, but I was 339 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 5: real rough stuff in there. So steer away from that 340 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:16,400 Speaker 5: if you come across it on Vimeo or wherever. 341 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, just or give it a thumbs up for effort, 342 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:21,920 Speaker 2: because you know that's the thing about acting. 343 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 3: It's like, sure, being convincing is one thing, but what 344 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 3: about just plain old effort. 345 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 7: Yeah, exactly, effortful performance, yes, and we don't we don't 346 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:35,360 Speaker 7: recognize that enough, Like there's there's actually not enough awards 347 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 7: for effort, and there really should be. 348 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 2: If you're breaking a sweat. 349 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 1: Yeah I was sweating. 350 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:48,359 Speaker 5: I was crapping my pants trying to trying to cry. 351 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 2: So it was great. 352 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's very the difference between like because I studied 353 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:58,200 Speaker 3: theater in college when I went for the year and 354 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:00,200 Speaker 3: a half before I got kicked out for not going 355 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:05,359 Speaker 3: to any other class. But I really like live performance. Yeah, 356 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 3: coming to LA and just kind of being like, oh, 357 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:11,160 Speaker 3: I'll go on some auditions having no experience or any 358 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 3: I never took a cold reading class. I never took 359 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 3: a scene class. I never took a like acting for 360 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:20,919 Speaker 3: TV class. I new fucking clue about anything, and it 361 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:24,200 Speaker 3: took me so long to realize. It's like, I think 362 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 3: I like the live immediate experience of you know, either 363 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 3: your failing or you're succeeding, and it's all happening right there. 364 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 3: I really don't like acting at all, and I tried 365 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:39,119 Speaker 3: to do it for so long, and it's like, I 366 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 3: don't know if I'm even good and I definitely don't 367 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 3: like it, which would affect whether or not I'm good. Yeah, 368 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:47,399 Speaker 3: it's the whole thing is just a bit of a 369 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:51,239 Speaker 3: like it's so strange too. It took me, you know, 370 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 3: maybe fifteen years to be like, yeah, I don't know 371 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:56,360 Speaker 3: if I actually even like that. I just signed up 372 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 3: for it kind of wow. 373 00:19:57,680 --> 00:19:59,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's to hear you say. 374 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:03,120 Speaker 4: Because you're good in things, Karen, are you someone maybe 375 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:05,479 Speaker 4: you're like me where you're like, I don't enjoy it 376 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:09,679 Speaker 4: while it's happening. I enjoy it when it's done, like, 377 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:13,119 Speaker 4: but during its work, it's like not, it's stressful and 378 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:14,400 Speaker 4: it's work and it's exhausted. 379 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 3: And it's also like I just think that you know 380 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:20,679 Speaker 3: the reason, like some people are good at it is 381 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 3: because they are built to go. Of course you want 382 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:26,879 Speaker 3: to watch me do this, right, But I have like 383 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 3: about seven problems just to get to the point where 384 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 3: I'm like, well, I'm gonna do something. You know, I 385 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 3: don't know, I don't think it's good and I certainly 386 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:36,440 Speaker 3: don't believe in it. But here, I'll do this thing 387 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 3: you asked me to do. Yeah, it's like there's so 388 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 3: many you know, when you watch a beautiful performance. To me, 389 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 3: it took me forever to realize, like about eighty percent 390 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 3: of it is the confidence of that person knowing you 391 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:52,200 Speaker 3: want to watch me do this, Like Brad Titt knows 392 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:54,399 Speaker 3: you want to look at his face no matter what 393 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:57,680 Speaker 3: he's doing with that fly fishing and a river runs. 394 00:20:57,480 --> 00:20:58,160 Speaker 2: Dirt or whatever. 395 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 3: He's like, you're gonna love this. Join you. 396 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:03,440 Speaker 1: Oh and he's right on the money, isn't it. 397 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's so true. 398 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 5: Yeah. 399 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:12,639 Speaker 4: All third that yeah, got to I get and I'm someone. 400 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:15,880 Speaker 4: Yeah when I'm even no matter how much experience I get, 401 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 4: the mantra in my head while I'm acting is do 402 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 4: I belong here? 403 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 1: I'm not sure I belong here. 404 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:24,120 Speaker 2: It's a it's a real min. 405 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 3: It's like a I think it's a stand up comic thing, 406 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 3: where like it serves us as comics to judge ourselves 407 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 3: because you have to be ready for a worst case scenario. 408 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 3: But I think it really doesn't serve you as a 409 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 3: as an actor, as a camera actor to be like 410 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:43,360 Speaker 3: have that look in your eye of like, I don't 411 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 3: think so that's what I always look like. It's just 412 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:47,919 Speaker 3: like I'm not buying it. 413 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 2: I don't know why you, ma'am. You're in the middle 414 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 2: of a line. Was that a lot of story? 415 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 3: What I meant was, can here's your change? 416 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 2: Sir? 417 00:21:57,080 --> 00:21:59,359 Speaker 1: Oh okay, now that time I bought it? 418 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:03,119 Speaker 4: You're acting on camera. It's now a bad time to 419 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 4: do crowd work. 420 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:09,639 Speaker 2: Could I get where's the boom operator? I just people 421 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:11,360 Speaker 2: around me? Where is he? 422 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:14,680 Speaker 5: It's so true you kind of have to self generate 423 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:19,199 Speaker 5: that the validation of like this is good or you 424 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:21,439 Speaker 5: almost have to shut off that part of your brain 425 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 5: that is thinking about is this good or not? 426 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:26,400 Speaker 2: Because you can really. 427 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 5: Go down a terrible, terrible spy, right and no one's 428 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:33,640 Speaker 5: going to give you that validation either, like, oh boy, 429 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:34,919 Speaker 5: no one's given it to you. 430 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what's hard. 431 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 4: There's no one that stops after each take and says 432 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 4: hey that or laughs, I need to. I'm addicted to 433 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 4: hearing laughter saying really the only sign that I know 434 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 4: of that things are going okay. 435 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I just remembered I was gonna. 436 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 3: I was in a TV show and it was I 437 00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 3: felt horrible the whole time. I was in this weird 438 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:01,879 Speaker 3: panic where I was like, I just I won't be 439 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:04,360 Speaker 3: able to remember my lines. So then I just did 440 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 3: it like it was I was mind fucking myself. 441 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. 442 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:10,919 Speaker 3: But then there was one point where I was in 443 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 3: this scene with this woman who was playing my sister, 444 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 3: and they the director called cut, and she goes, well, 445 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:21,399 Speaker 3: she's not and she did this super fucking rude thing 446 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:23,879 Speaker 3: what basically like that didn't work because of what she 447 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:28,880 Speaker 3: just did. And then I got so angry. And the 448 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:31,199 Speaker 3: next take and it was this it was like a 449 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 3: kind of a dramatic scene or whatever, and the take 450 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 3: I made all these choices and it was all completely 451 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:40,480 Speaker 3: just I was filled with rage, and they were. 452 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:42,120 Speaker 2: Like cut, Oh my god, perfect. 453 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 3: Care and that was amazing, and the DP like leans 454 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 3: over and he's like that was really good, and I 455 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:48,159 Speaker 3: was like I want to fucking kill someone. 456 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 2: I didn't give a shit about what was happening at all. 457 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,199 Speaker 3: It has nothing to do with anything. It was like 458 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 3: that was the one of the first realizations of like, oh, 459 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 3: I like I get it now, and I am not 460 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:04,880 Speaker 3: built for this. I'm not like I get it. There's 461 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:07,359 Speaker 3: really good actors are the ones that like show up 462 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 3: and they're like, oh, yeah, I know how to manipulate 463 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:12,639 Speaker 3: myself to get there. Yeah essentially, yeah. 464 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:13,399 Speaker 1: Yeah. 465 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 5: It also I mean that I remember doing a one 466 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:21,360 Speaker 5: act in college where you know how when you're in college, Oh, 467 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:23,120 Speaker 5: I have another funny thing to say. 468 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 2: Well, I hope it's funny. 469 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:27,639 Speaker 1: We'll see yeah, you know, you'll be the judge of that. 470 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:31,680 Speaker 4: I'll lean over like a boom operator and let you know, okay, okay. 471 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:36,440 Speaker 5: You know in theater school, how you're like you're nineteen 472 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 5: or something and you're being cast to play like eighty 473 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 5: year old you know people, or like a nine year 474 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 5: old like I played a nine year old in Grapes 475 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:48,720 Speaker 5: of Wrath as like a twenty year old woman, And 476 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:50,879 Speaker 5: that's like what that's theater school because there's a limited 477 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:54,879 Speaker 5: pool of people that we're casting from, you know. But 478 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,919 Speaker 5: I remember we were doing a one act and me 479 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 5: and my best friend at the theater school. We're playing these 480 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 5: two old women like and we just like existed on 481 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:10,119 Speaker 5: stage during the whole one act, and uh, I was 482 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 5: like really like trying. I was like doing like an 483 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:18,159 Speaker 5: old woman character like and I was like this is 484 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 5: really good. Like in my head, I was like, this 485 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:24,960 Speaker 5: is really good. And then I got a note from 486 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 5: the director that was like he was like, you're you're 487 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 5: you're mugging, You're doing all this weird stuff with your face. 488 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:32,399 Speaker 2: And then I was like, oh no. 489 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 5: And then we did another rehearsal of it and my 490 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 5: best friend I was I was like sewing or something, 491 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 5: and my best friend said. 492 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 2: Stop doing that. 493 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 5: It was like a real moment between us, and it 494 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:49,639 Speaker 5: affected like I got so like what that The whole 495 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,119 Speaker 5: rest of the scene, I was like only thinking about that? 496 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:53,440 Speaker 2: Was that real? 497 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 5: Was that? 498 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 2: And then afterwards the director was like that was amazing, 499 00:25:57,560 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 2: Like I started got me out of my head. 500 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 5: But but on the on the note of playing younger 501 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 5: or older when I also when I first moved to 502 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 5: la and I had an agent and they called me 503 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 5: and they said, hey, I'm just you know, we're about 504 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,159 Speaker 5: to start sending you out what. I just want to 505 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,159 Speaker 5: know your age range, like, what do you think you 506 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 5: could play? And I was like, oldest seventy five and. 507 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 4: You just I need an oil pencil for line work 508 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 4: on my face. 509 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 1: And you, yes, oh that's youngest. 510 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 2: I think eleven or twelve. 511 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:39,959 Speaker 1: That's so funny. Yeah, I love it. 512 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 4: Theater wasn't that because I started with a wildly popular 513 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:49,480 Speaker 4: troop out of Montana, and I thought one of the uh, 514 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 4: one of our rules was no kids. No uh well 515 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 4: that's mentally deficient characters like you. That was a no 516 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 4: no al ways mmmm yeah yeah. And I just thought 517 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:05,199 Speaker 4: that was like a rule for all of acting. But 518 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 4: maybe that's just our troop leader Eva. Maybe I think 519 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 4: that was just her and she was right, yeah, and she. 520 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:15,720 Speaker 2: Was for improv. 521 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 3: It makes sense because you're if you're going to stand 522 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 3: there and make up a scene, don't don't do a 523 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,879 Speaker 3: thing that's just going to make people insanely uncomfortable. Scene yea, 524 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 3: get a laugh if you're if you're trying to play 525 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:33,640 Speaker 3: cutesy or make fun of this a deficiency, yeah, everyone's 526 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 3: gonna bum out. And it's anti comedy as opposed to 527 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 3: Marriott Juilliard who's like, I can't, I can and will 528 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 3: play a child of the of the dust Bowl. 529 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 6: Oh, and you know, I upstaged the whole show. I 530 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 6: was a child of the dust Bowl who had just 531 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:57,200 Speaker 6: you know, a real sense of imagination and was like 532 00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:01,960 Speaker 6: doing doing all kinds of stuff upstage that pulled focus. 533 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:02,639 Speaker 6: I love it. 534 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 1: I loved the idea of this happening. 535 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 4: But all the other actors were children except for you. 536 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, it was a really avant garde production and we 537 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:19,639 Speaker 5: didn't get great reviews, but you know what, Yeah, I 538 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 5: know it was weird, but we had a point of view. 539 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:26,640 Speaker 5: Yeah that makes me think of the. 540 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,879 Speaker 3: Not to just keep talking about. But I think it 541 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 3: was the last thing that I believed I could do. 542 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,359 Speaker 3: And the reason I think, I think after that I 543 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 3: was like, don't do that stuff anymore, was because one 544 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 3: of the first things that happened, it was the first 545 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:45,720 Speaker 3: day of rehearsal, but it was it was for a 546 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 3: TV show, but you know whatever, and we were just 547 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 3: doing these rehearsals of the scenes and everybody else My 548 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:53,959 Speaker 3: scene was like fourth. So it was just watching all 549 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 3: these amazing British Scottish actors who all went to the 550 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 3: Royal Academy me, you know, like they were legit, and 551 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 3: I was just sitting there like, I'm fuck, this is crazy. 552 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 3: I don't know how I got this part because I 553 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 3: was like the American sister, right, yeah and cool. I 554 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 3: was really excited, but I absolutely did not believe I 555 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:16,920 Speaker 3: should be there. And then the first scene we have 556 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 3: in front of everybody, and we literally it's like two 557 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 3: other people are talking and I say my line and 558 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 3: the director goes, hold on, what don't don't do that, 559 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:30,880 Speaker 3: don't make that noise? And I go I was like sorry, 560 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:34,480 Speaker 3: and she goes, you're making that American actress noise before 561 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 3: and she fucked me, like it absolutely was such bad, 562 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 3: such bad, such a bad. 563 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:44,200 Speaker 2: Directing move on her partner. 564 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think it was because she was like 565 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 3: an expat and I think she wanted to show everybody 566 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 3: else that she's not. But it's this thing, and it's 567 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:56,720 Speaker 3: really true. It's a complete sitcom thing from the nineties 568 00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:00,080 Speaker 3: where if you're doing comedy and someone says something to you, 569 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 3: you go you make a little exhale before you say 570 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 3: your line to kind of show. And that was like, 571 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:08,600 Speaker 3: my I'm showing that I don't like what you just 572 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 3: said or whatever. But I had no idea I was 573 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 3: doing it and I didn't know. And also I wanted 574 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 3: to go, yeah, thanks, I have no training, like you 575 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 3: shouldn't have cast me. 576 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 4: I learned this from watching episodes of Becker or something. 577 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 1: Yeah for real. 578 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:26,920 Speaker 3: Yeah it was sitcom acting, but it was that thing 579 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 3: where it was like it was almost like she figured 580 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:33,480 Speaker 3: out the perfect thing to dismantle me entirely for the 581 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 3: rest of the time. 582 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 2: It was crazy. 583 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:37,840 Speaker 3: It was crazy, But then after a while it was 584 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:39,840 Speaker 3: like I started to realize, well, you're in this, so 585 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 3: you better fucking like you know, like you're not going 586 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:44,160 Speaker 3: to get it from the boom operator. 587 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:45,480 Speaker 2: You're not going to get it from her. 588 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 3: Everybody in the cast was lovely, so I was just like, well, 589 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 3: just do what they're doing, like you'll be fine. Oh. 590 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 3: I had to kind of like dig it up myself. 591 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 5: That's such an awful experience to have to like, oh 592 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 5: my god, I so I can really relate to that. 593 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 1: It's like it it wasn't in front. 594 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 5: Of everybody too then oh yeah, oh yeah, god, it's 595 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:09,880 Speaker 5: such a no, please don't. 596 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:13,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think if I think if I were 597 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 3: a true, like actor at heart, I would have been 598 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 3: able to kind of like counteract ego wise, right, counteract that. 599 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:24,920 Speaker 2: But it's like, but I think I was. It was 600 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:26,760 Speaker 2: just like in that thing where I was just. 601 00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 3: Like, how did I get this barred? This is so exciting? 602 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:32,000 Speaker 3: And then it was like it was basically her going like, hm, 603 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 3: I'm not sure, and then I'm like, oh, because I'm 604 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,160 Speaker 3: really not sure, so now we're all not sure. It 605 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 3: was like that, you know, watching something kind of unravel. 606 00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:40,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, totally. 607 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 3: Luckily the other people in it were so good and 608 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 3: so nice and so cool that it it that helped 609 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:50,720 Speaker 3: and elevate it, and I just you know, it wasn't 610 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:53,000 Speaker 3: It was a great experience overall, but it was one 611 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:54,760 Speaker 3: of those kind of things where it's like, yeah, you 612 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 3: can't essentially, that's what I'm saying. You can't have a 613 00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:02,720 Speaker 3: low uh you know bank of your confidence bank has 614 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:06,800 Speaker 3: to be completely full, yes, ten. You can't be kind 615 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,840 Speaker 3: of like middle to low, or your fucked because one 616 00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 3: thing like that happens and you you you're fucked, yes, 617 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:17,320 Speaker 3: Or you have to like put all the self because oh, 618 00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:19,880 Speaker 3: you know, I'm just filled with self doubt and loathing. 619 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:23,160 Speaker 2: But I'm able to sort of like you. 620 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 5: Shove it away and you're like, I'll deal with that 621 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:28,960 Speaker 5: when I go back to my room and I'll cry, 622 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:31,320 Speaker 5: I'll hate myself for the rest of the night. But 623 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 5: for now, like, yes, it's almost like you have to 624 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 5: like just I don't know, uh, push it to the 625 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,680 Speaker 5: side because you It's definitely not a thing, at least 626 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 5: for me, where I feel like I am full of 627 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,160 Speaker 5: confidence throughout the whole thing. 628 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 2: It's like I am dead in a part of myself. 629 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's what's that's the way to put it. 630 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:54,640 Speaker 4: I think that's what people get good at. When I 631 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 4: watch someone that is unshakably confident, I quickly realize a 632 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:02,280 Speaker 4: lot of the time that they aren't confident. They hate 633 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:05,640 Speaker 4: themselves like I do as well, but they were able 634 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 4: to set it aside. And I've never been in the 635 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 4: set it aside and get into full character. 636 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 3: It's tough to get into character, it is. 637 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:18,360 Speaker 5: Oh, getting into character is so hard. You have to sit. 638 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, you have to find a good chair. 639 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,160 Speaker 1: That's that's the hardest. Yeah. 640 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:29,440 Speaker 4: I want to start to get into this standing acting. 641 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:34,800 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, not on zoom then no, full body stand 642 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:40,320 Speaker 3: up acting. Mary what was your first What was the 643 00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:44,800 Speaker 3: first job you got in Hollywood where it wasn't a 644 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:48,400 Speaker 3: usc student film but it was actually like you were like, oh, 645 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 3: this is a real one. 646 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,800 Speaker 2: Where you have to sign up. Yeah, yeah, Oh my gosh. 647 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 2: It was a Cascade commercial. 648 00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:58,360 Speaker 1: Oh wow, Yes, what was your line? What was the line? 649 00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 5: I think my line was like, which I of course 650 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:08,360 Speaker 5: then played way too big and I was like, you 651 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:09,600 Speaker 5: can't put that in there. 652 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:10,319 Speaker 2: Or something like that. 653 00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:12,680 Speaker 5: It was something about it was something about the dishwasher 654 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,840 Speaker 5: and that. I was like, oh, because my husband in 655 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:17,560 Speaker 5: the commercial, he was. 656 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:20,759 Speaker 2: Going to put a dish in the dishwasher without having 657 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:21,319 Speaker 2: rinsed it. 658 00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:23,360 Speaker 1: These dumb commercial husbands. 659 00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 5: And I was like, you cannot with I was like, 660 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 5: what the fuck are you doing? And I grabbed and 661 00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:32,040 Speaker 5: buy the collar and I spit in his face. And 662 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:35,719 Speaker 5: but the parasitic commercial is, oh, you don't have to 663 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:38,120 Speaker 5: rent it, you know, with the Cascade, you just put 664 00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:42,759 Speaker 5: it right in, keep it dirty and all that. And yes, 665 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:47,359 Speaker 5: it was so exciting. I was just I was over 666 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:50,920 Speaker 5: the moon to be to be on a real set 667 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,600 Speaker 5: and to be Yeah, it was so exciting. 668 00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,280 Speaker 1: Did you have to sign something that said you would 669 00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:59,960 Speaker 1: not be in any other dish or soap related commercial 670 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:03,400 Speaker 1: for a year and a half there like that. 671 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:05,440 Speaker 2: There is Yes, it's like an exclusivity thing. 672 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:06,040 Speaker 3: I think. 673 00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:08,840 Speaker 5: I I'm sure I did. Yes, any any sort of 674 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:14,000 Speaker 5: dish products I I could, and you know they were clamoring. 675 00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:14,920 Speaker 1: You to have me. 676 00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:17,080 Speaker 3: That's when they all start calling you on. 677 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:19,400 Speaker 2: Paul Malive. 678 00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:25,960 Speaker 5: Paul Malive was really persistent, Uh, yes, I did have 679 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:26,359 Speaker 5: to do that. 680 00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:28,759 Speaker 2: And it was also the first time, Like. 681 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:33,759 Speaker 5: The acting lifestyle is so crazy because you sort of 682 00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,520 Speaker 5: you of course, never know when you're gonna work, and 683 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,400 Speaker 5: you you work and you get like a chunk of 684 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:43,200 Speaker 5: income and then but it's not consistent and. 685 00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:46,239 Speaker 1: So you're expected to figure out for yourself how to. 686 00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:50,840 Speaker 5: Make that chunk last. And you know, I learned that 687 00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:52,960 Speaker 5: lesson the hard way. But it was my it was 688 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:57,920 Speaker 5: my first time like having that experience and like, you know, 689 00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:00,239 Speaker 5: not that it was a ton of money or thing, 690 00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:03,480 Speaker 5: but it was like you know, when I was a 691 00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,080 Speaker 5: host of see in a restaurant or like dog walking. 692 00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:07,839 Speaker 2: And stuff, it was like, oh, you get little. 693 00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:12,560 Speaker 5: Checks on like a weekly basis, but it was thrilling 694 00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:15,920 Speaker 5: to see a number one was larger than one hundred dollars. 695 00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:18,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, it did last a while, like it wasn't a 696 00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:19,920 Speaker 3: national commercial that paid. 697 00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:22,520 Speaker 2: It was a national commercial. But I wouldn't say. I 698 00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:25,480 Speaker 2: wouldn't say it lasted as long as I. 699 00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:29,920 Speaker 1: Just turn the metal in con because they. 700 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:31,839 Speaker 2: Also like the narrative you hear. 701 00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:35,120 Speaker 5: And I don't know if you both experienced this, but 702 00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:38,319 Speaker 5: the narrative you hear, like, oh, commercial acting is where 703 00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:38,759 Speaker 5: it's at. 704 00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:42,880 Speaker 1: You know, you get on the super Bowl, Yes. 705 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:46,680 Speaker 5: You're set for life. It's basically the narrative that I internalized. 706 00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:52,160 Speaker 4: It used to be that way, yeah, right, yeah, no longer, no, no. 707 00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:54,240 Speaker 1: No, it's just it lasts for two months. 708 00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:57,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, and then they when they take away the insurance 709 00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,480 Speaker 4: and you're left with these car payments from a Honda 710 00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:01,280 Speaker 4: A eight on record that you bought. 711 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:06,320 Speaker 1: I don't know, it's just an example, Chris, you're crying. 712 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:09,440 Speaker 1: It's okay. It's my method acting. 713 00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:13,040 Speaker 4: That's the first thing I learned when I got to 714 00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:16,000 Speaker 4: Los Angeles. It's how to cry on command. It had 715 00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:20,439 Speaker 4: nothing to do with acting. It's just it was that's 716 00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:23,759 Speaker 4: what the city did to me. Did you really was 717 00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:27,000 Speaker 4: one of your first jobs at medieval times? For reals, 718 00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:27,759 Speaker 4: I know you've talked. 719 00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:31,200 Speaker 2: That was my first ever job. Yeah, yes, oh it's 720 00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:32,400 Speaker 2: a photography Wench. 721 00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:35,040 Speaker 1: Now that's you know, that's a problem. 722 00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:39,880 Speaker 4: That's a job where men it's they're playing along like 723 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,960 Speaker 4: at dix Burgers or whatever or Dick's whatever. 724 00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:44,160 Speaker 2: Where last resort? 725 00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:47,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that place where it's like, here's your napkins, asshole? 726 00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,120 Speaker 1: Can I not? I don't want to play the game. 727 00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:51,799 Speaker 1: Can we be normal? Thank god? 728 00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:55,920 Speaker 4: I'm so tired of this character. Were men just like, hey, Wench, 729 00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:56,680 Speaker 4: it had. 730 00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:59,160 Speaker 2: To be awful, you know, it really wasn't. 731 00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:07,879 Speaker 5: And I because, well, huh, the whole reason I love 732 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:12,280 Speaker 5: Medieval Times so much. And I went my high school 733 00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:17,399 Speaker 5: Merching band went when I was sixteen or something to 734 00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:22,000 Speaker 5: the to the Medieval Times in Toronto, and I loved 735 00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:24,759 Speaker 5: it so much that as soon as I went to 736 00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:28,919 Speaker 5: college outside Chicago, and there's in Medieval Times in Shamberg, Illinois, and. 737 00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:34,000 Speaker 2: I was like, I gotta work there. I'll do whatever. 738 00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:38,120 Speaker 5: And it was it was fifty miles away from the 739 00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:40,400 Speaker 5: town where I went to college in, so I was 740 00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:41,439 Speaker 5: like worth it. 741 00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:44,520 Speaker 2: I will drive one hundred miles round trip. 742 00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:49,160 Speaker 5: Every Friday, Saturday, Sunday to get paid six dollars and 743 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:54,200 Speaker 5: fifty cents an hour just to be in this world. 744 00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:56,439 Speaker 1: It would be fun to be that character all day. 745 00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:57,120 Speaker 1: I would like that. 746 00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:01,120 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, I loved it, but I didn't really. 747 00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:04,880 Speaker 5: I also wasn't interacting with the guests as closely as sure. 748 00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:09,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, if you were interacting with them, that would be 749 00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:10,680 Speaker 4: too close of a photo. 750 00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:13,600 Speaker 1: From the wench. 751 00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:17,480 Speaker 4: You have to from a distance take a good photo, 752 00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:20,440 Speaker 4: is what I'm saying. My knowledge of photography is that 753 00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:23,120 Speaker 4: you don't have to be six inches. 754 00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,640 Speaker 3: Away, and that's very true. 755 00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:29,200 Speaker 5: But what we would do, like the serving the serving 756 00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:31,919 Speaker 5: staff would come by and they would like they would 757 00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:33,839 Speaker 5: get you know, called on for drinks and stuff like that. 758 00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:37,759 Speaker 5: So they were like getting uh called to more. And 759 00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:41,920 Speaker 5: I do remember going once and our server was like, 760 00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:44,799 Speaker 5: you can call me my name, you can call me this, 761 00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:46,320 Speaker 5: but do not call me wench. 762 00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:48,080 Speaker 2: I know what I'm dressed. 763 00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:50,960 Speaker 1: Like, but don't you dare. Yeah yeah, so. 764 00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:54,360 Speaker 4: That word, I think is why I asked that. I'm like, 765 00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:57,359 Speaker 4: that's not They have changed that, mabe. 766 00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:58,360 Speaker 1: I'm sure they have. 767 00:39:58,560 --> 00:39:58,799 Speaker 2: Yeah. 768 00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:01,560 Speaker 3: Were you in a different area like people came to 769 00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:03,239 Speaker 3: get their picture from you? 770 00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:03,600 Speaker 1: Yes? 771 00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:07,840 Speaker 2: Well, oh so my job was it was a small staff. 772 00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:10,120 Speaker 5: There was like seven of us maybe, and what we 773 00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:12,040 Speaker 5: would do is, have you been to Medieval Times? 774 00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:15,359 Speaker 1: Yes? I have a follow up story that I'm very glad. 775 00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:17,440 Speaker 2: I can't wait till I can't wait to hear it, 776 00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:18,440 Speaker 2: hear you. 777 00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:21,960 Speaker 3: I tried to go one time, and we called ahead 778 00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:24,440 Speaker 3: of time because I have epilepsy. 779 00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:26,839 Speaker 2: They were like, do you have strobe lights? And they're like, no, 780 00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:27,440 Speaker 2: it's fine. 781 00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:29,840 Speaker 3: And then we get there and there's huge signs going 782 00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:34,359 Speaker 3: no strobe lights, be warned. So we all like had 783 00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:36,080 Speaker 3: to get We all like looked each other and just 784 00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:39,520 Speaker 3: got back in the car and you know, went somewhere else. 785 00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:39,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was. 786 00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:42,880 Speaker 3: It was really disappointing, and I felt so guilty. And 787 00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:45,080 Speaker 3: then like three people in the group were like, I'm 788 00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:47,279 Speaker 3: really glad we're leaving. I'm really excited we don't have 789 00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:49,160 Speaker 3: to do this. And I was like, oh, thank god. Yeah, 790 00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:51,920 Speaker 3: I did it feel too bad? Yeah, all that sucks. 791 00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:55,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, they do like light a light show with some 792 00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:57,839 Speaker 5: of the Yeah, it's but that's so disappointing that they 793 00:40:57,920 --> 00:40:59,640 Speaker 5: weren't upfront about that to begin with. 794 00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,759 Speaker 3: You know, the strobe lights of medieval times are represented 795 00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:04,840 Speaker 3: accurately and they are good. 796 00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:08,799 Speaker 5: That's fine, and they are and you know so and 797 00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:12,880 Speaker 5: as you know, as is us taking pictures with cameras 798 00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:14,080 Speaker 5: and trying to. 799 00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:16,359 Speaker 2: Sell you little key chains with your pictures in it. 800 00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:18,520 Speaker 5: But that's kind of what we would do is people 801 00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:22,240 Speaker 5: would come in and we would take pictures of groups together. 802 00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:25,879 Speaker 5: And it varies from like franchise to franchise, like sometimes 803 00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:27,719 Speaker 5: the king will be out there or the queen and 804 00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:29,520 Speaker 5: you get to take pictures with the queen. But we 805 00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:33,200 Speaker 5: would just do I don't know why we didn't have 806 00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:36,239 Speaker 5: a character out there, but we would just take in 807 00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:39,120 Speaker 5: front of a backdrop, take group pictures of the people, 808 00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:41,520 Speaker 5: and we'd have them hold up their table numbers so 809 00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:44,160 Speaker 5: we see like the color, like they're in the yellow 810 00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:46,359 Speaker 5: section and they're at table nine or whatever. But it's 811 00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:48,520 Speaker 5: like kind of a terrible picture to just have you 812 00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:51,160 Speaker 5: like just holding up your table, but we're like whatever, 813 00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:53,800 Speaker 5: it doesn't matter, so we would take the picture. We'd 814 00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:56,920 Speaker 5: go after like the show had started and the audience 815 00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:00,799 Speaker 5: was in the arena, we would go up to the 816 00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:03,520 Speaker 5: photo lab and we'd print off these like you know, 817 00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:05,880 Speaker 5: souvenir booklets and. 818 00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:07,480 Speaker 2: Keychains. 819 00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:10,920 Speaker 5: As I mentioned before, there are keychains, and you know, 820 00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:14,319 Speaker 5: the different size copies of the photo. We put them 821 00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:17,400 Speaker 5: in packets and then we'd each get like a stack 822 00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:19,960 Speaker 5: of packets and we'd have a flashlight and we'd have 823 00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:22,040 Speaker 5: to go into the arena and try to sell them 824 00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:23,120 Speaker 5: to people during the shop. 825 00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:29,400 Speaker 1: Flashlights, not a torch, that's what. 826 00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:36,680 Speaker 5: It's something about the photos being flammable as well as 827 00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:37,560 Speaker 5: our costumes. 828 00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:42,760 Speaker 2: But but I was so bad at selling those packets. 829 00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:43,960 Speaker 2: But because also. 830 00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:47,160 Speaker 5: There's like most of the pictures was like a child's 831 00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:52,680 Speaker 5: head seven feet of like space of the backdrop and 832 00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:54,840 Speaker 5: then a little table card in the corner. 833 00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:57,239 Speaker 2: These were not good photos. 834 00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:00,440 Speaker 5: But but you know, my cowork is sell a lot 835 00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:00,680 Speaker 5: of them. 836 00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:01,480 Speaker 2: But I just couldn't do it. 837 00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:03,840 Speaker 1: So anyway, that was a chop. That's great. 838 00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:06,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, they should have a monitor so you just 839 00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:09,120 Speaker 4: point at it, you know, like at a roller coaster. 840 00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:11,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. 841 00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:14,680 Speaker 5: It's also so wasteful because we would print them ahead 842 00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:17,880 Speaker 5: of all, so like people wouldn't even say we want them. 843 00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:18,959 Speaker 1: Yeah, like it. 844 00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:21,560 Speaker 2: Was like part of the experience. I guess as you 845 00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:22,200 Speaker 2: just get. 846 00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:24,920 Speaker 1: To well, I guess I shouldn't have framed it. My lord, 847 00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:27,400 Speaker 1: I wonder. 848 00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:29,880 Speaker 3: If any cheap dads go and go through the dumpster 849 00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:31,359 Speaker 3: at the end of the night and be like, here 850 00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:31,719 Speaker 3: it is. 851 00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:34,279 Speaker 2: I'm not fans of yeah either. 852 00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:37,759 Speaker 5: Oh my god, it was twenty dollars. Oh shit, those 853 00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:41,880 Speaker 5: packets were twenty dollars. That's Schomberg for you tell you what? 854 00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:43,680 Speaker 1: Thanks Mary. 855 00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:48,560 Speaker 4: Do you know like Jordan Morris and Hal Roudneck Yeah, 856 00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:49,880 Speaker 4: h yeah, yeah. 857 00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:50,520 Speaker 1: We went. 858 00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:54,279 Speaker 4: So we worked for this thing called Fuel TV. It 859 00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:56,880 Speaker 4: was like a skateboard snowboard network. But we had to 860 00:43:56,920 --> 00:44:00,520 Speaker 4: do these pack these go to events, and so we 861 00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:01,240 Speaker 4: went to Vegas. 862 00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:03,920 Speaker 1: I don't know if it was a Medieval Times. 863 00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:08,040 Speaker 4: It may have been like a a rip off of it. 864 00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:10,640 Speaker 4: Maybe it was Medieval Times. But we just were going 865 00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:16,680 Speaker 4: to interview some nights and be in characters standard yeah, yeah, 866 00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:20,799 Speaker 4: being characters and do jokes and then put together an 867 00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:24,600 Speaker 4: interview montage. But they wrote us into the show onto 868 00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:28,040 Speaker 4: the act like we and we they just said, oh, 869 00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:29,360 Speaker 4: you're going to be part of the show. 870 00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:32,920 Speaker 1: You and we had marks that we had. 871 00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:35,800 Speaker 4: I had to run in the mud in full armor 872 00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:39,320 Speaker 4: and a horse like got up on its hind legs 873 00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:41,879 Speaker 4: right above me, and that's where the strobe lights came. 874 00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:44,800 Speaker 4: In they they shot red lights on them, so it 875 00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:47,799 Speaker 4: seemed like a red knight, like from the Fisher King 876 00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:53,160 Speaker 4: or something. Yeah, and then Jan had to fall fall 877 00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:56,080 Speaker 4: and I had to lift him up. And I'm realizing 878 00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:58,359 Speaker 4: now that they were messing with us because I had 879 00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:01,080 Speaker 4: to run with Jordan on my back through the mud 880 00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:03,560 Speaker 4: and I was sore. 881 00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:05,600 Speaker 1: I like pulled a muscle in my leg. They were 882 00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:06,920 Speaker 1: probably laughing at us. 883 00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:10,520 Speaker 4: I had to a guy's fully swung at me with 884 00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:12,920 Speaker 4: a sword and I had break up with a sword 885 00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:14,200 Speaker 4: that they left in the mud. 886 00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:16,839 Speaker 1: It was insane and horrifying. 887 00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:20,440 Speaker 4: It was stunt work and we were not We're like, oh, 888 00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:21,920 Speaker 4: you don't have to put us in the show, and 889 00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:23,240 Speaker 4: they're like, oh, you're in the show. 890 00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:26,279 Speaker 2: It was so did you have a rehearsal or were 891 00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:26,759 Speaker 2: they just. 892 00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:30,719 Speaker 4: Like like looking at a piece of paper, Oh, you'll 893 00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:33,120 Speaker 4: run see this out there. You'll run out there, and 894 00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:36,480 Speaker 4: that's when the first horse comes. There's an argument that's 895 00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:38,839 Speaker 4: when you pick up the sword, then your friend will 896 00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:41,120 Speaker 4: be on the ground. I can't remember the whole scene 897 00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:42,160 Speaker 4: or the storyline. 898 00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:43,240 Speaker 2: Yes, I can't. 899 00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:45,400 Speaker 4: The fact that I had to run with Jordans in 900 00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:48,120 Speaker 4: wet horse mud and poop. 901 00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:55,120 Speaker 1: Wearing. There was poop. No one warned me about that. 902 00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:59,840 Speaker 4: I can't believe. I, you know, rubbed it in my 903 00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:01,040 Speaker 4: face for good luck. 904 00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:01,600 Speaker 1: Anyway. 905 00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:04,960 Speaker 4: It was horrifying, Chris, I was sure, I know, I 906 00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:08,480 Speaker 4: don't know why. I you know, before a scene you 907 00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:10,000 Speaker 4: have to rub the dirt on your face. 908 00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:11,680 Speaker 3: Yeah. 909 00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:13,760 Speaker 1: It was absolutely horrifying. 910 00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:16,920 Speaker 4: And I couldn't walk the next day, like the wow, 911 00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:20,080 Speaker 4: yeah it was so I then. 912 00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:22,200 Speaker 2: You Sue, and now you own that I could have. 913 00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:25,959 Speaker 1: Yeah, now I could. No, I just got a free stein. 914 00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:27,759 Speaker 5: Of mead. 915 00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:33,680 Speaker 1: It's Miller light. Yeah, so scary. 916 00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:37,800 Speaker 2: God, what a crazy I'm so jealous of that experience. 917 00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:40,040 Speaker 2: I would have. All I wanted was to get in 918 00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:40,720 Speaker 2: that arena. 919 00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:43,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, if I did, you have to work up to it. 920 00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:46,279 Speaker 3: Was it like if you started the photography lunch some 921 00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:47,440 Speaker 3: day you might be able. 922 00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:48,080 Speaker 1: To right right? 923 00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:50,120 Speaker 2: No, No, there was no ladder. 924 00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:55,880 Speaker 5: There was from photography wunch, but I did there. The 925 00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:58,480 Speaker 5: Lord Chancellor, who sort of is the n sea of 926 00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:01,640 Speaker 5: the night, he was also in charge of casting, and 927 00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:04,200 Speaker 5: so I would I would always, like, you know, whenever 928 00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:05,680 Speaker 5: he would be I was like, oh my god, he's 929 00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:08,880 Speaker 5: so glorious. And one time I was standing at the 930 00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:12,359 Speaker 5: photo We set up a booth after the show where 931 00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:14,680 Speaker 5: people can come and if they didn't buy the packete 932 00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:16,799 Speaker 5: during the show, they have like another option before they leave. 933 00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:20,239 Speaker 5: And so I was standing there with my coworker, who 934 00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:24,919 Speaker 5: is this really lovely woman, and the Lord Chancellor came 935 00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:27,480 Speaker 5: up to us and I was like, oh, it's the 936 00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:30,920 Speaker 5: Lord Chancellor and he he like he did the thing, 937 00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:33,280 Speaker 5: was like he was looking at me and he smiled, 938 00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:35,319 Speaker 5: and then he turned his attention to the girl next 939 00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:38,240 Speaker 5: to me and was like, excuse me, are you an actress? 940 00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:42,400 Speaker 2: And I was like I was inside. 941 00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:49,560 Speaker 1: I was like and she was like no, and. 942 00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:55,080 Speaker 5: He was like, well, I'm you know, we're looking for 943 00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:59,800 Speaker 5: actresses to play the part of the princess in the story. 944 00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:00,719 Speaker 1: And I was. 945 00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:07,120 Speaker 5: Like, that's all I wanted, but he like gave her. 946 00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:09,319 Speaker 5: I didn't say anything in the moment, you know, because 947 00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:11,920 Speaker 5: he wasn't talking to me, but he gave her like 948 00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:15,319 Speaker 5: information for an audition. So I think you can like 949 00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:17,520 Speaker 5: get scouted, I guess to be a part of the show. 950 00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:21,759 Speaker 5: I'm sure there are like regular auditions too, but it 951 00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:22,440 Speaker 5: was heartbreaking. 952 00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:27,680 Speaker 3: You have to catch the Lord Chancellor's eye essentially. 953 00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:31,319 Speaker 4: Did you have to do people stay in character when 954 00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:34,600 Speaker 4: there is the show isn't happening, like permissioner use the bathroom, 955 00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:39,680 Speaker 4: my vassal, stuff like that, did you I mean, I 956 00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:41,480 Speaker 4: imagine people staying characters. 957 00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:45,480 Speaker 5: Well, I really wanted to. I was because I was 958 00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:48,120 Speaker 5: also like I was really into Lord of the Rings. 959 00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:50,279 Speaker 5: I was like listening to the soundtrack to him from work. 960 00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:51,399 Speaker 2: So I actually. 961 00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:52,399 Speaker 1: Didn't have any friends at work. 962 00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:56,080 Speaker 5: I didn't like, I didn't talk to people. I sort 963 00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:59,319 Speaker 5: of like showed up. I got like my corset and 964 00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:02,440 Speaker 5: my clothes, and I just like, yeah, stayed in character, 965 00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:04,840 Speaker 5: I guess whole time. But my character was it wasn't 966 00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:07,560 Speaker 5: like a it wasn't like a super strong character or anything. 967 00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:09,600 Speaker 2: It was just like you know, I but I just didn't. 968 00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:11,720 Speaker 2: I didn't ever drop out of it, I guess. 969 00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:14,960 Speaker 5: And yeah, you know, planned to go to tjive Fridays 970 00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:15,719 Speaker 5: with anybody you know? 971 00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:16,439 Speaker 1: Right right? 972 00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:19,960 Speaker 4: Well, I guess I do that. During Halloween. I've realized 973 00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:24,799 Speaker 4: it's not that bad to stay in character with your costume, 974 00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:28,560 Speaker 4: you know, or I've done it. They have like a 975 00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:31,520 Speaker 4: Renaissance festival here and I went with a group of 976 00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:35,680 Speaker 4: people and they all some of my nerdier friends, and 977 00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:38,799 Speaker 4: they all stayed in character. And so I'm like, I 978 00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:41,560 Speaker 4: just got quiet. That's where I didn't want to do it. 979 00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:46,919 Speaker 4: I just I'm like, no, I'm eating another period turkey leg. 980 00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:48,719 Speaker 4: You know, I'm doing my part. 981 00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:55,239 Speaker 5: Yeah, I love it. I love that whole world. I 982 00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:57,960 Speaker 5: just I just really eat it up. So, yeah, that 983 00:49:58,040 --> 00:49:59,560 Speaker 5: was my that was my first ever job. 984 00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:03,880 Speaker 3: That's a great first job. What a kind of like 985 00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:07,640 Speaker 3: what a standard to set, whereas like some people work 986 00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:10,279 Speaker 3: at ed the Bevick's. But you're just like, no, I've 987 00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:12,520 Speaker 3: gone back in time to take photos. 988 00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:13,160 Speaker 1: That's right. 989 00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:19,240 Speaker 5: No, I uh yeah, yeah that was I would accept 990 00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:21,600 Speaker 5: no less. At that time, I didn't I didn't really 991 00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:25,520 Speaker 5: understand how jobs worked. And I was like, no, no, 992 00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:28,000 Speaker 5: it has to be fulfilling a fantasy. 993 00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:30,400 Speaker 1: Many job I work has to fulfill a fantasy. 994 00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:33,919 Speaker 3: And sorry, you were driving? Did it take you half 995 00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:35,160 Speaker 3: an hour? Did it take you? 996 00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:39,000 Speaker 2: It took me an hour down and an hour back? 997 00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:42,000 Speaker 2: Jesus Christ. Yeah, that's hilarious. 998 00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:46,160 Speaker 5: So I paid to work there. 999 00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:50,440 Speaker 3: Yet in many ways, now you're Mary. You're the kind 1000 00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:52,839 Speaker 3: of person that I feel like, I feel like I 1001 00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:54,640 Speaker 3: went to college with you. I feel like I've known 1002 00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:55,920 Speaker 3: you for a really long. 1003 00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:57,360 Speaker 1: Time and I feel the same way. 1004 00:50:57,600 --> 00:51:00,680 Speaker 3: It's really weird, but we actually I'm like, but did 1005 00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:04,680 Speaker 3: we first meet, like with me doing Askcat or the 1006 00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:06,040 Speaker 3: UCB show. 1007 00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:08,120 Speaker 2: Yes, that that was the first time we met. 1008 00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:12,279 Speaker 5: I remember we were backstage and you had written. 1009 00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:21,480 Speaker 2: For Space, Yes, Space, Other Space. 1010 00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:24,200 Speaker 5: And it was right before we were about to go 1011 00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:27,080 Speaker 5: on and you you mentioned that you were writing for 1012 00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:31,719 Speaker 5: that show, and I fell head over heels for you. 1013 00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:35,520 Speaker 5: And I mean not because of that fact, because then I, 1014 00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:37,880 Speaker 5: you know, saw you perform and do your thing and 1015 00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:41,440 Speaker 5: was madly in love and then and I think my 1016 00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:46,480 Speaker 5: favorite Murder was relatively young at that time, but Betsy 1017 00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:49,439 Speaker 5: Star was backstage with us and she was like talking 1018 00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:50,719 Speaker 5: to you about your podcast and I was like, what 1019 00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:53,319 Speaker 5: is this podcast? And then I started listening to it, 1020 00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:58,960 Speaker 5: and Karen, you are in my ear. 1021 00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:02,480 Speaker 2: For hours every week. 1022 00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:07,120 Speaker 5: So I really feel like we have a very long, 1023 00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:08,040 Speaker 5: very long history. 1024 00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:10,000 Speaker 2: But that means a lot that that it's a mutual 1025 00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:10,920 Speaker 2: feeling because. 1026 00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:16,680 Speaker 3: I yeah, yeah, oh same sick well. And also, I 1027 00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:18,600 Speaker 3: you know, improv is the kind of thing I've talked 1028 00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:21,400 Speaker 3: about this and you and I've talked about this before, 1029 00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:25,160 Speaker 3: because I I feel like the improv and stand up 1030 00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:29,200 Speaker 3: are opposite, where improv is anything goes, stay in the moment, 1031 00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:31,600 Speaker 3: see what other people are doing right, And for me 1032 00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:35,000 Speaker 3: that is it's so scary and so horrifying, and I 1033 00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:37,960 Speaker 3: trust no one and I need to get the big 1034 00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:40,120 Speaker 3: laugh myself and I don't give a fuck about anybody, 1035 00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:40,279 Speaker 3: you know. 1036 00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:41,480 Speaker 2: So I have such a. 1037 00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:46,080 Speaker 3: Competitive kind of controlling thing about performing where stand up 1038 00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:49,600 Speaker 3: it suits. But my friend tricked me into taking an 1039 00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:52,360 Speaker 3: improv class one time, and I it cracked me open, 1040 00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:55,120 Speaker 3: where I was like, oh, all of that is like neurosis, 1041 00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:58,919 Speaker 3: and if you can actually play against that and give 1042 00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:02,680 Speaker 3: into anything could happen and you will be fine if 1043 00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:05,839 Speaker 3: you just trust this moment whatever. So then I got 1044 00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:10,799 Speaker 3: this appreciation for improv and what improv people do and 1045 00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:14,040 Speaker 3: when you're good at improv, what an amazing thing that is. 1046 00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:18,520 Speaker 3: So like I'm so from the nineties where like coming up, 1047 00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:20,480 Speaker 3: it was like if you're in stand up, you think 1048 00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:23,920 Speaker 3: improv is dumb and you have to stand against the 1049 00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:28,520 Speaker 3: other team like that weird pre internet competitive weirdness. So 1050 00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:30,600 Speaker 3: when I when I first started getting asked to do 1051 00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:33,279 Speaker 3: shows like that, I was like you got to put 1052 00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:37,560 Speaker 3: all that weird shit down that like and just give over. 1053 00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:42,280 Speaker 3: That's like you have to play their game because because 1054 00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:47,200 Speaker 3: that's because it's a good the skills are really important 1055 00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:50,440 Speaker 3: as a performer, like being open and being calm and 1056 00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:53,200 Speaker 3: being confident and all those kind of all those things. 1057 00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:56,719 Speaker 3: So doing it with you guys, you know, and the 1058 00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:59,840 Speaker 3: team that you guys had, I mean every time, it 1059 00:53:59,880 --> 00:54:02,000 Speaker 3: was like I felt like I was telling these stories 1060 00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:03,760 Speaker 3: that were like, oh, I don't know, here's a story 1061 00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:07,359 Speaker 3: about my dentist because someone suggested flash sure, right, and 1062 00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:09,560 Speaker 3: it's just like this, I'm not giving them anything, and 1063 00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:11,520 Speaker 3: this is like, in terms of stand up, this is 1064 00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:14,040 Speaker 3: a failure. And then you guys would do this scene 1065 00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:17,520 Speaker 3: where it would be fucking amazing and hilarious and you're 1066 00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:18,919 Speaker 3: just like, holy shit. 1067 00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:21,600 Speaker 4: One of the more I did not expect it or 1068 00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:25,399 Speaker 4: know how self indulgent it would feel to be an 1069 00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:30,480 Speaker 4: ascat monologust and then watch your story come to life. 1070 00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:33,840 Speaker 4: It's like so self fulfilling. 1071 00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:34,280 Speaker 1: I didn't. 1072 00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:37,919 Speaker 4: I'm like, this is the coolest thing I've ever experienced. 1073 00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:42,360 Speaker 4: A share and watch your story come to Like I 1074 00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:45,440 Speaker 4: did it a couple of times and I I, it 1075 00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:48,239 Speaker 4: was so exciting, and I'm like, so exciting. Yeah, it's 1076 00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:50,719 Speaker 4: such a funny. I did not see it coming. How 1077 00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:52,959 Speaker 4: how it put me in a good mood for. 1078 00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:57,719 Speaker 5: Yeah, I rested the year that because it is such 1079 00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:01,360 Speaker 5: an improv is such a collaborative art form. But I 1080 00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:05,719 Speaker 5: really loved the ASCAT format so much for that reason, 1081 00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:07,920 Speaker 5: where it felt like we were all working together to 1082 00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:12,800 Speaker 5: make the show, like it was the monologist and that 1083 00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:16,160 Speaker 5: was the improvisers, and we all like create it. 1084 00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:18,759 Speaker 2: The show couldn't exist without either component. 1085 00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:21,640 Speaker 4: And it was so actually called not a herald, but 1086 00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:24,000 Speaker 4: a a name. 1087 00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:26,480 Speaker 1: It's an Armando, no Armando. 1088 00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:31,400 Speaker 4: I just wanted to put in a plan, a seed 1089 00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:35,520 Speaker 4: that I do indeed have a training and improv and 1090 00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:40,719 Speaker 4: I was background, well, it's wallpaper, no, And I was 1091 00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:43,640 Speaker 4: bad at it because I, like Karen said, I would. 1092 00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:47,759 Speaker 4: I really noticed the contrast when I would when I 1093 00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:50,920 Speaker 4: moved to Austin because of an improv festival, and then 1094 00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:53,760 Speaker 4: I immediately started doing stand up. There was nights where 1095 00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:57,080 Speaker 4: I would do improv with and it was short form 1096 00:55:57,280 --> 00:56:01,319 Speaker 4: games and then afterwards I stand up and I would 1097 00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:04,959 Speaker 4: either suck at one or the other because they're two 1098 00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:09,400 Speaker 4: different mindsets and building a scene with other people and 1099 00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:12,360 Speaker 4: being that open and listening and not trying to get 1100 00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:15,080 Speaker 4: I would just get a joke in and they'd roll 1101 00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:19,600 Speaker 4: their eyes probably and I'm like, or I would suck, 1102 00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:23,239 Speaker 4: and then I'd do well at stand up but never 1103 00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:26,680 Speaker 4: in the same night, I realized that it wasn't so 1104 00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:30,480 Speaker 4: much a competitiveness, but that was there, Karen, Like you said, 1105 00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:33,960 Speaker 4: like improv people don't hang out with stand up people, 1106 00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:37,239 Speaker 4: I'm like, why I don't. I like both made up, 1107 00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:40,680 Speaker 4: but it was really hard to be a part of both. 1108 00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:44,080 Speaker 1: It was two parts of my brain. I maybe that's 1109 00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:45,600 Speaker 1: just me, but it. 1110 00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:46,040 Speaker 2: Makes me think. 1111 00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:49,120 Speaker 3: The first time I did that improv class, the first time, 1112 00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:51,680 Speaker 3: I because I just said no, I'm auditing. 1113 00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:51,799 Speaker 2: Because I was. 1114 00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:54,680 Speaker 3: It scared me to death. I was like, so sorry, 1115 00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:56,960 Speaker 3: you're saying I don't get to control everything, and like 1116 00:56:57,719 --> 00:57:00,839 Speaker 3: it was like saying basically saying, put your entire personality 1117 00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:04,360 Speaker 3: down that you have been cultivating for you know, twenty 1118 00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:07,120 Speaker 3: five years, and then good luck. I was like, this 1119 00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:09,439 Speaker 3: is horrifying. So the very first scene I was in, 1120 00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:12,440 Speaker 3: you know, I have to pick my action, so of 1121 00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:15,840 Speaker 3: course start flipping burgers because deep down. I'm not a 1122 00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:18,400 Speaker 3: creative person at all, is how it felt. And I'm 1123 00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:21,520 Speaker 3: sitting there flipping burgers and the guy enters the scene 1124 00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:23,080 Speaker 3: and I just very slowly. 1125 00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:25,520 Speaker 2: Turned my back. And it was Chris Barnes, who was 1126 00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:29,080 Speaker 2: the teacher, and he's like, hey, Karen, what are you doing? 1127 00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:33,040 Speaker 3: He's like, you have to acknowledge a person came into 1128 00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:34,360 Speaker 3: your burger join or whatever. 1129 00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:36,200 Speaker 2: I was just like, oh, yeah, I just did. I 1130 00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:36,840 Speaker 2: don't want to. 1131 00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:38,560 Speaker 1: I don't want to interact with it. 1132 00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:45,200 Speaker 4: You know, you're choosing, Yeah, you're choosing to basically ignore someone. 1133 00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:49,000 Speaker 3: And the whole point of you standing there is to say, hey, 1134 00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:52,040 Speaker 3: what's up? Like, Hey, why are you in my burger joint? Yeah? 1135 00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:55,560 Speaker 3: And it was the funniest like it's just like, well, sorry, 1136 00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:56,640 Speaker 3: these are my instincts. 1137 00:57:56,680 --> 00:57:59,160 Speaker 2: My instinct is to turn my back. That's who I am. 1138 00:57:59,240 --> 00:57:59,880 Speaker 2: I guess I have to. 1139 00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:03,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, but in your defense, what burger joint you walk 1140 00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:07,480 Speaker 4: in and it's the cook's job to say welcome, And. 1141 00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:09,200 Speaker 1: That's exactly It's kind of. 1142 00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:13,600 Speaker 4: Like, yeah, he was snoozing on his part the why 1143 00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:15,640 Speaker 4: can I get something from you? 1144 00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:20,240 Speaker 2: In the line? Cook, also get out of the kitchen. 1145 00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:20,840 Speaker 5: What are you doing? 1146 00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:22,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, why did you walk in? 1147 00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:26,640 Speaker 4: And that it's so funny because you immediately went to 1148 00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:30,000 Speaker 4: flipping burgers. That the clip that they sent here, I 1149 00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:35,360 Speaker 4: just watched where U you all did improv on meltdown 1150 00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:39,400 Speaker 4: and every suggestion they're like apples and you all just 1151 00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:42,320 Speaker 4: start picking apples and what. 1152 00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:43,000 Speaker 1: I don't know. 1153 00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:46,160 Speaker 4: There was just everything you in Unison knew that you 1154 00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:50,560 Speaker 4: just had to do all do the same actions. No 1155 00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:53,840 Speaker 4: one was ever going to be the customer or even 1156 00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:55,560 Speaker 4: holding a basket of apples. 1157 00:58:55,680 --> 00:58:59,400 Speaker 1: Ye, just the same everyone match match. 1158 00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:08,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, this is because I also, like I taught after 1159 00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:10,080 Speaker 5: going through UCP and performing there for a while, I 1160 00:59:10,120 --> 00:59:12,720 Speaker 5: was teaching classes and with coach and stuff and and 1161 00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:15,840 Speaker 5: it's so it's it is such a crazy thing because 1162 00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:20,480 Speaker 5: obviously you're working towards being funny. Yeah, right, but you 1163 00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:24,800 Speaker 5: really have to you almost have to be like I'm 1164 00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:26,920 Speaker 5: not going to even try to be funny. Like we 1165 00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:31,480 Speaker 5: would encourage people to like don't worry about comedy right now. 1166 00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:35,600 Speaker 5: It's like just like, h be exist in this like space, 1167 00:59:35,720 --> 00:59:38,200 Speaker 5: exist in the burger joint. Don't worry about how it's 1168 00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:40,960 Speaker 5: going to be funny or like try to make something happen, 1169 00:59:41,120 --> 00:59:45,320 Speaker 5: like you can just like base level, just exist and 1170 00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:50,240 Speaker 5: make it feel real, but that makes no sense to 1171 00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:53,440 Speaker 5: our bodies that are like why am I on stage 1172 00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:53,920 Speaker 5: right now? 1173 00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:59,200 Speaker 3: Yes, it felt very dangerous to be on stage but 1174 00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:05,200 Speaker 3: not be giving people anything to justify my burger flipping existence. 1175 01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:06,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just. 1176 01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:07,960 Speaker 2: Like I can't just stand here. 1177 01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:11,120 Speaker 3: Yes, I can't just stand here, and I also can't 1178 01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:13,640 Speaker 3: figure out what you're about to do, so I can't 1179 01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:16,440 Speaker 3: acknowledge you like the decision making. 1180 01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:17,560 Speaker 2: And I think that was. 1181 01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:20,560 Speaker 3: Really what my kind of fear was that all I 1182 01:00:20,600 --> 01:00:23,800 Speaker 3: did was learn you're afraid of it because yeah, it 1183 01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:27,080 Speaker 3: doesn't really work. So like the whole idea of going 1184 01:00:27,120 --> 01:00:29,959 Speaker 3: to these classes, and I really love Chris Barnes because 1185 01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:32,000 Speaker 3: he was such a good teacher and he was so 1186 01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:35,720 Speaker 3: just like that exact thing of you're not writing this 1187 01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:37,880 Speaker 3: scene and you're not in control of what the other 1188 01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:40,840 Speaker 3: person does. It's all just about how you react to 1189 01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:44,320 Speaker 3: what ends up happening. And you do that all day, 1190 01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:46,760 Speaker 3: so you already know how to do this. It's not 1191 01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:49,520 Speaker 3: from living life. 1192 01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:49,720 Speaker 2: Yes exactly. 1193 01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:52,360 Speaker 3: It's like it's not that big of a deal where 1194 01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:54,960 Speaker 3: to me it was all like, yeah, even if the 1195 01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:58,160 Speaker 3: stage is only half an inch above the floor, you're 1196 01:00:58,160 --> 01:01:02,120 Speaker 3: on stage, so you better be like, hello my baby. Yeah, 1197 01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:04,480 Speaker 3: given given a thousand persons. 1198 01:01:04,680 --> 01:01:07,400 Speaker 2: You better Hello my baby all over that. 1199 01:01:07,240 --> 01:01:09,160 Speaker 1: Stage because it's a catchy song. 1200 01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:12,400 Speaker 2: Well it's so vulnerable. 1201 01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:14,200 Speaker 5: I think that's like what it comes down to is 1202 01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:19,440 Speaker 5: like it really requires uh, you're just so raw and 1203 01:01:19,480 --> 01:01:25,160 Speaker 5: so exposed and yes, so vulnerable, like people will not laugh, 1204 01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:27,640 Speaker 5: is what I tell myself all the time. 1205 01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:32,160 Speaker 2: But that is after. 1206 01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:34,800 Speaker 5: I guess, like if you do it so much, you 1207 01:01:34,960 --> 01:01:39,840 Speaker 5: just get desensitized to that and you feel okay, I guess. 1208 01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:42,480 Speaker 3: Being that kind of well, that's the that's where the 1209 01:01:42,520 --> 01:01:46,520 Speaker 3: power is because if you can, if you understand that 1210 01:01:46,840 --> 01:01:50,880 Speaker 3: getting vulnerable is what's going to bring something and like 1211 01:01:51,080 --> 01:01:54,000 Speaker 3: that that's people are in the audience watching you do it. 1212 01:01:54,120 --> 01:01:58,080 Speaker 3: Because even just getting to the vulnerable vulnerable part, like 1213 01:01:58,360 --> 01:02:01,760 Speaker 3: the first time I did askat with you guys, where 1214 01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:03,480 Speaker 3: I knew I was like, there's gonna be some like 1215 01:02:03,520 --> 01:02:06,160 Speaker 3: heavy hitters here and then are you gonna be the 1216 01:02:06,160 --> 01:02:09,320 Speaker 3: wink link? And it was all that shinny Like that's 1217 01:02:09,360 --> 01:02:11,600 Speaker 3: the kind of like the negative talk that I think 1218 01:02:11,680 --> 01:02:13,720 Speaker 3: is gonna get me somewhere where it's like no, no, no, 1219 01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:17,080 Speaker 3: no no, And I was just like, here's the key. 1220 01:02:17,360 --> 01:02:20,800 Speaker 3: They know that you are having to basically make something up, 1221 01:02:20,960 --> 01:02:23,520 Speaker 3: tell a story based on a suggestion. Yes, so it's 1222 01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:25,960 Speaker 3: not like I had to bring here's my best stories, 1223 01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:28,920 Speaker 3: because it's not about that. Yeah, and that's what makes 1224 01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:31,720 Speaker 3: it like, yeah, sit there and think about it for 1225 01:02:31,720 --> 01:02:34,480 Speaker 3: a second, and then just tell the most interesting story, 1226 01:02:34,520 --> 01:02:38,280 Speaker 3: not the funniest or not the most like punchy. But like, 1227 01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:42,160 Speaker 3: all you can do is what they give you. Wait, like, 1228 01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:44,320 Speaker 3: try to think of something around what they give you 1229 01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:49,000 Speaker 3: and be specific so that the actual improvisers have something 1230 01:02:49,040 --> 01:02:51,360 Speaker 3: to do as opposed to like get a bunch of 1231 01:02:51,440 --> 01:02:53,760 Speaker 3: laughs and then sit down across your arms. It's like 1232 01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:58,120 Speaker 3: you're here in service of that later scene, so just 1233 01:02:58,200 --> 01:03:00,440 Speaker 3: be in service and thank fucking God, because I was 1234 01:03:00,520 --> 01:03:02,960 Speaker 3: just like it was that feeling of like, of course 1235 01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:06,840 Speaker 3: I have the compulsion and the like lifelong you know, 1236 01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:09,000 Speaker 3: mental illness of I have to be funny and I 1237 01:03:09,040 --> 01:03:11,400 Speaker 3: have to make a joke. But then there was this 1238 01:03:11,440 --> 01:03:14,680 Speaker 3: weird like oh but yeah, he said, and I'll never 1239 01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:17,720 Speaker 3: forget it because the first suggestion was floss and I was. 1240 01:03:17,720 --> 01:03:20,120 Speaker 2: Just like, are you fucking kidding me? 1241 01:03:20,280 --> 01:03:22,920 Speaker 3: Like I'm trying to I'm trying to oppress these people 1242 01:03:22,920 --> 01:03:24,280 Speaker 3: and I'm trying to this and I'm trying to that. 1243 01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:27,160 Speaker 3: And it was like, Nope, you have to now be 1244 01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:30,080 Speaker 3: here and sincerely think of what this makes you think 1245 01:03:30,120 --> 01:03:31,360 Speaker 3: of and talk about it. 1246 01:03:31,480 --> 01:03:34,840 Speaker 2: And you were perfect. You're perfect. 1247 01:03:35,240 --> 01:03:35,760 Speaker 1: Thank you. 1248 01:03:36,680 --> 01:03:38,680 Speaker 3: It was so fun though, because it was that thing 1249 01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:42,600 Speaker 3: of a different way of getting to the same results 1250 01:03:42,680 --> 01:03:44,760 Speaker 3: where it's like I won't be the engine and I 1251 01:03:44,840 --> 01:03:48,160 Speaker 3: won't be the writer. I'm just I'm just trying to, 1252 01:03:48,520 --> 01:03:50,560 Speaker 3: you know, get a bunch of stuff going. Yeah, they 1253 01:03:50,560 --> 01:03:51,280 Speaker 3: have something to. 1254 01:03:51,240 --> 01:03:56,480 Speaker 4: Do, Yes, yes, can I admit something? Uh, there was 1255 01:03:56,680 --> 01:03:59,880 Speaker 4: there was something good. Let's keep this in not safe space. 1256 01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:04,160 Speaker 4: When I there was something that was acted out when 1257 01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:07,360 Speaker 4: I did my monologue and I added it to a 1258 01:04:07,480 --> 01:04:09,840 Speaker 4: joke because I knew it was never going to happen again. 1259 01:04:09,960 --> 01:04:15,480 Speaker 4: So they actually wrote one of my jokes. I'm like, oh, 1260 01:04:15,480 --> 01:04:20,400 Speaker 4: that's oh. It was about uh my mom dressing me 1261 01:04:20,520 --> 01:04:24,440 Speaker 4: up as a crossing guard and there being an actual 1262 01:04:24,480 --> 01:04:25,800 Speaker 4: crossing guard on duty. 1263 01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:28,560 Speaker 1: That's what the real life side of it. 1264 01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:31,000 Speaker 4: But the way they acted it out, it's like, oh, 1265 01:04:31,040 --> 01:04:32,960 Speaker 4: that would be funny if that was one of the 1266 01:04:33,000 --> 01:04:36,240 Speaker 4: things I was concerned about. I think kidnappers are something. 1267 01:04:36,280 --> 01:04:39,320 Speaker 4: I added that, and it was an idea got because 1268 01:04:39,360 --> 01:04:41,720 Speaker 4: I was like, oh no, I was worried about that. 1269 01:04:42,160 --> 01:04:45,000 Speaker 4: I forgot that until they reminded me, So it wasn't 1270 01:04:45,000 --> 01:04:48,640 Speaker 4: an actual theft. They just reminded me of my own 1271 01:04:48,720 --> 01:04:53,360 Speaker 4: similar thought. No, yeah, that's so fun. 1272 01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:56,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, that is the fun part though. It is like 1273 01:04:56,800 --> 01:05:00,960 Speaker 3: you're kind of a part of something that has everything 1274 01:05:00,960 --> 01:05:02,520 Speaker 3: to do with you and nothing to do with you, 1275 01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:06,160 Speaker 3: so you can like, you know, I don't know, it's 1276 01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:09,240 Speaker 3: it's it's funny. And then there were some parts where 1277 01:05:09,240 --> 01:05:11,200 Speaker 3: like I remember one scene where it was like I 1278 01:05:11,320 --> 01:05:13,360 Speaker 3: really was just stretching and I was like trying to 1279 01:05:13,360 --> 01:05:15,360 Speaker 3: think of something, and I told a weird story about 1280 01:05:15,520 --> 01:05:17,320 Speaker 3: the first time I went to an Indian restaurant with 1281 01:05:17,320 --> 01:05:19,200 Speaker 3: my aunt and uncle in San Francisco. 1282 01:05:19,240 --> 01:05:20,880 Speaker 2: We're all sitting cross legging on the ground. 1283 01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:23,840 Speaker 3: Or whatever, and it was the it turned into it 1284 01:05:23,920 --> 01:05:26,000 Speaker 3: was almost like we're not sure what to do with this, 1285 01:05:26,160 --> 01:05:29,120 Speaker 3: and that became the joke where it was like it 1286 01:05:29,160 --> 01:05:32,200 Speaker 3: was like it was almost like I started realizing, like, oh, 1287 01:05:32,240 --> 01:05:34,120 Speaker 3: you can't fail in this world. 1288 01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:36,360 Speaker 2: Yes, exactly, you can't. 1289 01:05:37,000 --> 01:05:39,680 Speaker 5: Which is it's such a beautiful it's well, I love 1290 01:05:39,720 --> 01:05:44,400 Speaker 5: improvs so much for that reason, where uh, I think 1291 01:05:44,440 --> 01:05:48,320 Speaker 5: that's such a human thing to think, how how am 1292 01:05:48,320 --> 01:05:53,160 Speaker 5: I going to survive in this situation? And in a 1293 01:05:53,200 --> 01:05:55,640 Speaker 5: comedy show, the way to survive is to be funny. 1294 01:05:56,240 --> 01:05:59,280 Speaker 5: And you can be funny by like trying to out 1295 01:05:59,320 --> 01:06:03,360 Speaker 5: funny the people while you're on stage with But but 1296 01:06:03,440 --> 01:06:07,920 Speaker 5: the actual, the beautiful thing about improv is, as you said, Karen, 1297 01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:09,600 Speaker 5: like it has everything to do with you and nothing 1298 01:06:09,600 --> 01:06:12,120 Speaker 5: to do with you, and you cannot fail. Like even 1299 01:06:12,120 --> 01:06:14,640 Speaker 5: when I would get and I still get nervous before 1300 01:06:14,680 --> 01:06:16,680 Speaker 5: shows and everything, but. 1301 01:06:18,320 --> 01:06:20,439 Speaker 2: I just sort of what helps. 1302 01:06:20,120 --> 01:06:22,480 Speaker 5: Like release that is just being like I don't have 1303 01:06:22,560 --> 01:06:24,640 Speaker 5: to worry about any of it, Like all these people 1304 01:06:24,720 --> 01:06:27,160 Speaker 5: are on stage with me and we will figure it out. 1305 01:06:27,200 --> 01:06:30,680 Speaker 2: It's like this blanket trust you have that no matter 1306 01:06:30,760 --> 01:06:34,720 Speaker 2: what you do, you will be supported. Yes, and it's 1307 01:06:34,720 --> 01:06:39,800 Speaker 2: such a it's so freaking beautiful. We get her to 1308 01:06:39,840 --> 01:06:42,720 Speaker 2: cry cry freaking beautiful. 1309 01:06:45,160 --> 01:06:46,840 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1310 01:06:46,920 --> 01:06:49,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, it probably helps that you're you're probably good friends 1311 01:06:49,840 --> 01:06:55,120 Speaker 4: with everyone in Wild Horses, right, yes, yeah, arguments. 1312 01:06:54,640 --> 01:06:56,640 Speaker 1: You all know each other's brains. 1313 01:06:56,960 --> 01:07:00,280 Speaker 5: We do, we do, and because the first part of 1314 01:07:00,320 --> 01:07:04,800 Speaker 5: our show is we just talk like just have you know, conversation. 1315 01:07:04,960 --> 01:07:07,240 Speaker 2: Karen and Georgia did it at Largo. I remember that 1316 01:07:07,320 --> 01:07:11,440 Speaker 2: was such a I remember such a fun show. I 1317 01:07:11,480 --> 01:07:15,680 Speaker 2: have a vague memory of talking about PUBI care. 1318 01:07:18,880 --> 01:07:19,680 Speaker 1: Vague memory. 1319 01:07:20,640 --> 01:07:22,200 Speaker 5: Anyway, we can go back and listen to it's one 1320 01:07:22,240 --> 01:07:24,520 Speaker 5: of the episodes that we that was. 1321 01:07:24,920 --> 01:07:25,600 Speaker 2: On our podcast. 1322 01:07:25,640 --> 01:07:30,479 Speaker 5: But the but yeah, it's uh you after you talk 1323 01:07:30,600 --> 01:07:33,240 Speaker 5: so much about yourself and your point of view. 1324 01:07:33,360 --> 01:07:35,440 Speaker 2: Yeah you do. You really do get to know each 1325 01:07:35,480 --> 01:07:37,120 Speaker 2: other so well. 1326 01:07:37,600 --> 01:07:43,080 Speaker 1: Yes, are you? Are you back to doing live performing? Yes? Yeah, 1327 01:07:43,480 --> 01:07:47,560 Speaker 1: I'm back? Are you we'll? 1328 01:07:48,520 --> 01:07:50,680 Speaker 2: Oh good? Have you all done a lot of shows? 1329 01:07:52,600 --> 01:07:55,680 Speaker 4: I just got back from some fun shows and it 1330 01:07:55,800 --> 01:08:02,040 Speaker 4: is it is audiences are so appreciated and excited. Yea, 1331 01:08:02,160 --> 01:08:05,680 Speaker 4: and I feel that everywhere and that I wanted to 1332 01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:06,600 Speaker 4: stay that way. 1333 01:08:07,960 --> 01:08:09,440 Speaker 1: It's a very good time to be. 1334 01:08:09,840 --> 01:08:10,080 Speaker 5: Yeah. 1335 01:08:10,240 --> 01:08:12,320 Speaker 1: Five shows. Yeah, I've been loving. 1336 01:08:12,520 --> 01:08:13,880 Speaker 3: Have you done some Mary I have? 1337 01:08:14,120 --> 01:08:14,360 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1338 01:08:14,400 --> 01:08:18,000 Speaker 5: I actually just came back from doing some shows in 1339 01:08:18,040 --> 01:08:20,360 Speaker 5: New York and I haven't been to New York in 1340 01:08:21,960 --> 01:08:24,519 Speaker 5: many years, so that was so exciting to be there, 1341 01:08:24,520 --> 01:08:26,519 Speaker 5: but I totally experienced the same thing where it was 1342 01:08:26,560 --> 01:08:30,719 Speaker 5: like everyone, there's such joy. Yeah, to be gathered again 1343 01:08:31,520 --> 01:08:34,880 Speaker 5: that you feed off. Each of the audience is feeding 1344 01:08:34,880 --> 01:08:37,360 Speaker 5: out the performers and vice versa. And it's just it's 1345 01:08:37,439 --> 01:08:40,280 Speaker 5: so positive and happy. 1346 01:08:40,720 --> 01:08:41,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's amazing. 1347 01:08:42,000 --> 01:08:44,519 Speaker 4: And then I just go right into my COVID material. 1348 01:08:45,640 --> 01:08:49,320 Speaker 4: Remember remember this what's happening? Oh man, I thought we 1349 01:08:49,360 --> 01:08:50,479 Speaker 4: were gonna forget about it. 1350 01:08:52,280 --> 01:08:53,240 Speaker 3: I'm here to remind you. 1351 01:08:53,400 --> 01:08:57,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, everybody remember three months ago when these people wanted 1352 01:08:57,200 --> 01:08:58,160 Speaker 1: to hear these jokes. 1353 01:08:58,600 --> 01:09:01,680 Speaker 3: I'm afraid you're gonna forget about quarantine and COVID. So 1354 01:09:01,720 --> 01:09:05,479 Speaker 3: I'm going to remind you. Do you have any plugs now? 1355 01:09:05,520 --> 01:09:08,720 Speaker 3: I have like shows because honestly, listeners, if you have 1356 01:09:08,800 --> 01:09:13,120 Speaker 3: the opportunity to see Mary Holland do improve in real life, 1357 01:09:13,280 --> 01:09:16,519 Speaker 3: you have to do it. It's the funniest, most magical. 1358 01:09:16,560 --> 01:09:20,240 Speaker 2: You have to you have to go. Thank you, Karen, Yeah, 1359 01:09:20,680 --> 01:09:21,000 Speaker 2: thank you. 1360 01:09:21,120 --> 01:09:21,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1361 01:09:21,360 --> 01:09:22,759 Speaker 2: We Wild Horses. 1362 01:09:22,800 --> 01:09:25,599 Speaker 5: We do have a show coming up May twenty ninth 1363 01:09:25,720 --> 01:09:28,520 Speaker 5: at the Dynasty Typewriter Theater in Los Angeles. 1364 01:09:28,600 --> 01:09:29,639 Speaker 1: But it is cool. 1365 01:09:29,720 --> 01:09:32,200 Speaker 5: What they're doing is they're doing a hybrid thing where 1366 01:09:32,200 --> 01:09:36,000 Speaker 5: they're live streaming the show and they'll have an audience. 1367 01:09:36,800 --> 01:09:39,960 Speaker 2: Have y'all performed there? Yes, it's so cool. 1368 01:09:40,080 --> 01:09:42,800 Speaker 4: But it's been a while since because for a while 1369 01:09:42,840 --> 01:09:45,800 Speaker 4: everything was live streaming, and I mean I was doing 1370 01:09:45,840 --> 01:09:51,280 Speaker 4: shows to have a silent void with the zoom participants 1371 01:09:51,400 --> 01:09:54,880 Speaker 4: or audience muted, you know, and I thought that was 1372 01:09:54,920 --> 01:09:57,479 Speaker 4: actually a good exercise, but I was getting tired of it. 1373 01:09:57,560 --> 01:10:00,799 Speaker 4: But a lot of people miss being able to watch 1374 01:10:01,080 --> 01:10:03,799 Speaker 4: shows from there, like those streaming. 1375 01:10:04,880 --> 01:10:05,559 Speaker 1: I forget that. 1376 01:10:05,600 --> 01:10:08,479 Speaker 4: Maybe the audiences we're enjoying those, and so it's cool 1377 01:10:08,560 --> 01:10:10,080 Speaker 4: that you're providing both. 1378 01:10:10,160 --> 01:10:12,000 Speaker 1: Now, Yeah, that's yeah, that's. 1379 01:10:12,000 --> 01:10:14,760 Speaker 2: It's It's very cool. So we'll do that on May 1380 01:10:14,800 --> 01:10:17,440 Speaker 2: twenty ninth, five pm. 1381 01:10:17,880 --> 01:10:21,360 Speaker 3: Hey, hey, is it a nice Sunday afternoon? 1382 01:10:21,400 --> 01:10:25,200 Speaker 5: It's a nice Sunday afternoon. It comes to roll in 1383 01:10:25,280 --> 01:10:26,200 Speaker 5: straight from brunch. 1384 01:10:26,280 --> 01:10:29,120 Speaker 1: We'll treat to a show in New York City. It's 1385 01:10:29,160 --> 01:10:30,880 Speaker 1: like two in the morning, so it works out. 1386 01:10:31,280 --> 01:10:32,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, So where's up? 1387 01:10:32,080 --> 01:10:35,479 Speaker 5: Yeah? Yeah, perfect, And so that's the next live show 1388 01:10:35,520 --> 01:10:39,919 Speaker 5: I have coming up with Wild Horses. And then I 1389 01:10:39,960 --> 01:10:45,840 Speaker 5: am in a movie in a film that is that 1390 01:10:45,920 --> 01:10:50,519 Speaker 5: will be released on Netflix on May thirteenth, called Senior year. 1391 01:10:51,160 --> 01:10:55,720 Speaker 1: Is Rebel Wilson in it? I read the paperwork. 1392 01:10:58,400 --> 01:11:00,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, so that'll be that'll be fun. 1393 01:11:00,280 --> 01:11:01,439 Speaker 1: It's a wild ride. 1394 01:11:01,600 --> 01:11:04,840 Speaker 4: Yeah before the premise of that is so funny, could 1395 01:11:04,880 --> 01:11:05,320 Speaker 4: you just. 1396 01:11:05,840 --> 01:11:10,000 Speaker 5: It's very funny. So Rebel plays a cheerleader who at 1397 01:11:10,080 --> 01:11:13,520 Speaker 5: seventeen had a terrible cheerleading accident and went into a coma. 1398 01:11:13,640 --> 01:11:16,800 Speaker 1: And is she funny name? I can't even magine. 1399 01:11:17,240 --> 01:11:19,519 Speaker 2: They had me at Hello, my baby Hell. 1400 01:11:22,560 --> 01:11:25,600 Speaker 5: But then she wakes up twenty years later and she 1401 01:11:25,640 --> 01:11:27,479 Speaker 5: wants to finish her senior year of high school. 1402 01:11:27,840 --> 01:11:31,200 Speaker 3: So it's that is it's a real fun that's awesome. 1403 01:11:31,200 --> 01:11:34,519 Speaker 1: That is so funny to me. Yeah, premise alone, I 1404 01:11:34,560 --> 01:11:35,360 Speaker 1: will be watching. 1405 01:11:35,760 --> 01:11:36,240 Speaker 2: It's great. 1406 01:11:36,280 --> 01:11:40,040 Speaker 5: And it's written by Brandon Scott Jones, who's a brilliant 1407 01:11:40,400 --> 01:11:43,960 Speaker 5: improviser and writer and an actor. And so it's and 1408 01:11:44,000 --> 01:11:47,200 Speaker 5: it's got a great group. There's Sam Richardson, there's Zoe Chow. 1409 01:11:47,560 --> 01:11:49,760 Speaker 5: You know, it's it's a fun it's a fun group. 1410 01:11:50,280 --> 01:11:50,839 Speaker 2: That's awesome. 1411 01:11:50,920 --> 01:11:52,160 Speaker 1: I can't wait for it to come. 1412 01:11:52,200 --> 01:11:57,280 Speaker 5: That's May thirteenth, May thirteenth, nice, put it in your cows. 1413 01:11:57,600 --> 01:12:03,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're queen, you're quick cue you your queen. 1414 01:12:03,760 --> 01:12:04,840 Speaker 2: You're cute. 1415 01:12:04,880 --> 01:12:09,000 Speaker 3: Wait no, don't talk about please, don't talk. 1416 01:12:08,920 --> 01:12:11,360 Speaker 1: About I'm glad you said it because I was. I 1417 01:12:11,439 --> 01:12:12,400 Speaker 1: wanted to yell it. 1418 01:12:14,640 --> 01:12:14,760 Speaker 3: You. 1419 01:12:15,040 --> 01:12:18,000 Speaker 4: You're so great, Mary, thank you so much for being 1420 01:12:18,000 --> 01:12:18,760 Speaker 4: for having me. 1421 01:12:19,280 --> 01:12:19,880 Speaker 2: Yes, this was. 1422 01:12:20,040 --> 01:12:21,840 Speaker 3: It was great to see you and you see your 1423 01:12:21,840 --> 01:12:22,880 Speaker 3: face and talk to you. 1424 01:12:22,880 --> 01:12:26,840 Speaker 2: You too, and I hear your voice truly every week. 1425 01:12:27,600 --> 01:12:30,719 Speaker 5: So so it's wonderful to get to see your face. 1426 01:12:30,800 --> 01:12:33,960 Speaker 2: And Chris, so wonderful meeting you. It was a joy. 1427 01:12:34,439 --> 01:12:36,400 Speaker 2: I love talking. I'm talking with you. 1428 01:12:36,400 --> 01:12:39,000 Speaker 1: You were terrific. And everyone watched anything Mary has been 1429 01:12:39,040 --> 01:12:39,240 Speaker 1: in it. 1430 01:12:39,439 --> 01:12:44,880 Speaker 5: She just steals the show, except for that green tomatoes please. 1431 01:12:46,880 --> 01:12:48,960 Speaker 1: In the dumpster that you found it in? 1432 01:12:49,640 --> 01:12:53,400 Speaker 3: What is that bloom operator? Then then later became like 1433 01:12:53,479 --> 01:12:59,200 Speaker 3: David Fincher. Someone realized he was also getting his start. 1434 01:12:59,760 --> 01:13:03,040 Speaker 1: You know, d see what he's doing now. Ceb remembers 1435 01:13:03,080 --> 01:13:04,919 Speaker 1: you maybe there's a friend. 1436 01:13:04,840 --> 01:13:06,800 Speaker 2: She should maybe there's a friendship. 1437 01:13:08,120 --> 01:13:11,280 Speaker 5: Yes, And maybe that was also a formative artistic experience 1438 01:13:11,280 --> 01:13:13,880 Speaker 5: for him where he was like, well, I know the 1439 01:13:14,000 --> 01:13:15,240 Speaker 5: kind of art. 1440 01:13:15,160 --> 01:13:18,240 Speaker 2: I don't want to make. It's the kind that she's 1441 01:13:18,320 --> 01:13:19,760 Speaker 2: doing reenactment. 1442 01:13:19,920 --> 01:13:22,000 Speaker 1: He became a seramesist after that. 1443 01:13:22,600 --> 01:13:23,920 Speaker 3: Ye It's broken. 1444 01:13:26,760 --> 01:13:32,200 Speaker 4: Oh Boy, thanks for being on May you've been listening 1445 01:13:32,280 --> 01:13:33,439 Speaker 4: to Do You Need a Ride? 1446 01:13:33,920 --> 01:13:35,960 Speaker 2: D y n Aar? 1447 01:13:37,560 --> 01:13:39,599 Speaker 1: This has been an exactly right. 1448 01:13:39,560 --> 01:13:42,400 Speaker 3: Production produced by Casey O'Brien. 1449 01:13:42,280 --> 01:13:44,280 Speaker 1: Mixed by John Bradley. 1450 01:13:44,120 --> 01:13:45,520 Speaker 3: Artwork by Chris Fairbanks. 1451 01:13:45,720 --> 01:13:47,720 Speaker 1: Theme song by Karen Kilgareff. 1452 01:13:47,920 --> 01:13:51,000 Speaker 3: Follow the show on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook at dinar 1453 01:13:51,120 --> 01:13:54,200 Speaker 3: podcast That's d y n aar Podcast. 1454 01:13:54,560 --> 01:13:58,000 Speaker 4: For more information, go to exactly rightmedia dot com. 1455 01:13:58,320 --> 01:14:00,679 Speaker 3: Listen, follow and leave us a review on Amazon Music, 1456 01:14:00,720 --> 01:14:02,960 Speaker 3: Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your. 1457 01:14:02,880 --> 01:14:04,559 Speaker 1: Podcasts and don't forget. 1458 01:14:04,800 --> 01:14:07,800 Speaker 4: You can listen to new episodes one week early on 1459 01:14:07,880 --> 01:14:12,080 Speaker 4: Amazon Music, or early and ad free by subscribing to 1460 01:14:12,240 --> 01:14:14,400 Speaker 4: Wondery Plus in the Wondery app. 1461 01:14:14,760 --> 01:14:24,920 Speaker 1: Thank you, Quo, You're welcome, Honk Hunk